Welcome back, Kestrels, to the 89th installment of Mecha Space Pirate Quest! I'm Wong, your host (slightly late after having a beer with the boss) and today you are Admiral Roarke Susan Starwind, pilot of the Knuckle Kaiser and master of the Iron Kestrels Space Pirate Fleet. Perhaps after today, that title will change.Previous Threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Mecha+Space+Pirate+Quest%2C+Collective+Game%2C+mechahttp://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Mecha%20Space%20Pirate%20QuestMaster Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/sSHs0QmFUpgrade Menu: http://pastebin.com/QQQzkFZeList of Moves: http://pastebin.com/HSdyCe2yRogues' Gallery: http://pastebin.com/E9ZcDLfG (finally updated)Brazilia's Kawaii Space Jam Gallery: http://pastebin.com/pZtRmbWSToday is a very big day for you.
>>1636692Oh boy, it's Cabot season.
First...>[Is Eisentor what you want to name your new country? If not, then what? You have time to argue and consider it, there's substantial stuff to get through first]
>>1636693No, it's Fairchild season.
>>1636692>Today is a very big day for youOur birthday?>>1636694I like Phaeton, since its the planet that was hypothesized to be the origin of the Asteroid belt.
>>1636694Eisentor. It makes sense and in a way it does serve as a heavily defensive gate for both sides.
>>1636698Fairchild season>>1636694I'm fine with either Eisentor or >>1636699this one
On your way to the negotiations, you stop by the shuttleport. Doctor Duncan Clancy looms above the crowd, his white labcoat flapping in the artificial wind. He arrived with the Browning from 16-Psyche this morning. You don't like leaving your base there so lightly defended, but it has plenty of mecha and according to the report he gives you while Athena hugs your legs and sings 'Crimson Red Vermilion', apparently from a file of songs Rosita gave her, the station's guns are back online and its mecha production capabilities are returning to optimum levels.“You know you didn't have to deliver this yourself.” You remark, browsing through the datafiles, encouraged by pictures of Dutchmen and Jagers being constructed in neat rows. You've already set up negotiations with the other tourney pilots to build more of their mecha, although some, like the Loggerhead, require ordering specifically from a company. Even there, you're hoping to make the Belt a more attractive place for organizations like Yates & Hillyrd to work from than Jupiter proper.“Yeah, I did. Got something I have to do, Roarke.” Duncan puts his hands in his pockets, his craggy brow furrowing, “Something serious I need to talk to you about. Hey, little buddy...” Duncan hands Athena his PC, “Want some ice cream? Go ahead, you've been good.” He smiles, indicating a nearby stall with a jerk of his head.“Ice cream!? Thanks dadda!” Athena hugs her dad's knee and scampers off.“Caramel for me! Whatever you want for you! No more than two scoops! And yours has to be in a cup, young lady, we don't want to get your dress all dirty!” He bellows jovially after her, making direct eye contact with the ice cream salesgirl to make it clear she heard his instructions even if his daughter thinks she's doing the order herself.“It's not something dangerous, is it?” You ask him.He folds his arms and looks at you sidelong.
You shake your head, “You've got a kid to look out for, Duncan, and I'm going to need parenting advice soon myself. We need you.”He crooks his mouth into a rough smile, “I know, and that's part of why I'm doing it. The Kestrels have been good to me...and I've got a debt to pay you. Roarke, you told me once you wanted to keep me out of it even if it meant you'd have to deal with that bitch Fairchild, right? Well, I'm grateful, but the time's come. I'm going to tell the other Jovian brass here exactly what happened to me. She can make all the excuses she wants, claim I was threatened or brainwashed, but I still believe that if I face them with my head high and speak honestly, they'll believe me. Something's got to be done about that crazy bitch, and if I can help, I've got a duty to do it. I know, I've got a daughter to look after, but how many kids lost their lives on Suleiman 1? How many more might suffer if I don't sack up and deal with this? As a man, it's got to be done.”You nod, a little taken aback, “Glad to hear it, and you have my support, but...”“...But if something does happen to me...” He starts.“It won't. I'm not letting that happen.” You interject. “Right, but IF.” He interjects right back, “IF something does, I want you to take care of Athena. Samantha's a nice girl and I know she wants kids, and I know Athena looks up to her. You two will make good parents for her.” He smiles sadly, “Promise me, Roarke.”“Nothing is going to happen to you.” You insist.“Promise me.” He growls.You throw your hands up in the air, “Alright! I promise! Nothing is going to happen to you, but still, I promise!” You shake your head, and call after Athena, “Two scoops of chocolate chip for me!”You spend several pleasant minutes eating ice cream and listening to Athena talk about the 'silly boys' on 16-Psyche...the orphans, you gather...before you resume your trek to the palace.[Continued]
Alright so once again the game plan we're going with is demanding too much for each side for Lori and trying to move the conversation over to us joining the SSL in exchange for>Duel with Cabot>Freedom to raid outside Sol>Able to keep whatever loot we take>Are not to be put under Fairchild's command
>>1636713Don't you go raising deathflags on me, Duncan. Plus side, production is going strong.
When you envisioned high-stakes negotiations with three planetary nations, you envisioned something a lot different. An arena of glowing, floating thrones, maybe, or some kind of ominous darkened room with the powerbrokers communicating anonymously through monoliths with speakers in them or bizarre art objects. Something overwrought and dramatic.What you didn't imagine was a conference room in Red Siren's palace, or that it would be so normal. Yes, the glassteel table with an interior of pressed flower petals is nice, and so is the waterfall view of the gardens out the window, but at its heart it's a room, with perfectly regular chairs surrounding a perfectly regular table. People have been meeting like this for centuries for perfectly mundane reasons, “Maybe the content really does matter. Maybe politics isn't just for show.” You muse, gazing out at the gardens as you wait for the delegates to arrive. The table is square, and your people, backed by your guards, sit on the side where they can see the door.“Psh, yeah right.” Miles grumbles, smoothing down her hair. She's slicked it back to go with her old-fashioned women's suit. Richard is supervising fleet operations, while three of your other Captains sit along one edge of the table. “...Do you think I should have brought the skull, for effect?” Captain Beckingham asks Captain Oda quietly.“Nani? The skull? That wasn't just a novelty paperweight?” Oda stares, aghast, at Beckingham.Beckingham looks unconcerned, the Harmonium's Captain shrugging, “Why would it be? He was a traitor and an enemy, he deserved to die.”You hear a bwoop, and get out your PC. You have a message, and reflexively, you check it. It's not from anyone on your contacts list. Out of curiosity, you open it.'General Fairchild is out. Her authority to negotiate with you has been rescinded by private order of Chairman Luxol. It would nonetheless be helpful to our investigation if you played along with her...and a good bit of sport, too. Cheers.' [Continued]
>>1636719Change>Are not to be put under Fairchild's commandTo>To retain autonomous and independent command in a war footing.
>>1636719Understanding our laws should be one. If anything else it will help us pin down Cabot if we managed to get several crimes to stick. They've all been done in the belt, first mate or major and as a pirate of the belt, she should follow under belt law.
>>1636729We can just claim a duel to the death, its well with in our rights of declaring a duel.
>>1636725To clarify, we don't want people to prop up Fairchild as a martyr or deterrent to the Black Ogre Pirate King and give her more powers and authority.
>>1636723Oh, this is going to be good. I expect some bull from her at least.
Well, isn't that interesting?“Kouhai, keeping a man's gilded skull on your desk is kowaii, even Pomade-kun's.” Oda remonstrates with the Harmonium's captain.Beckingham scowls, “It's a perfectly piratical thing to do, I'm surprised you don't have any skulls on your desk.”Oda puffs out his chest, “My worst enemies didn't leave any bones that complete behind, Beck-kun.” “Keep your damned shirts tucked in, ladies.” Moses Flint has his ear against the table, “I hear footsteps coming. Military cadence, our boys got here first. Sit up straight, the whole Jovian contingent is UJCIDF.”Flint's and Oda's new First Mates make eye contact, and nod. Alexander Grant and James McClintock are taking their jobs extremely seriously, with less banter than you'd predicted.Your prediction about who would be first through the door, however, was completely correct. General Fairchild sweeps in like she's practiced it. Immediately behind her is General Hatsheput, looking a bit embarrassed about the proceedings, and the two Colonels Luxol and Stern. Lieutenant Josiah McAllister enters with them...but there's no sign of Fairchild's secretary. Damn it. She does have some guards with her, as expected, in body armor and helmets. They take their positions along the side of the table to your right, Fairchild sitting as far from you as possible.[Continued]
>>1636735Fake a phone call from Clemmy and loudly tell her how much we love her.
Next are the Martians, led by Asim Abdul. Despite the Martians bringing more warships to Auditorium than anyone else, a fact that makes sense considering you know who they brought with them, their delegation is far less military than the Jovians', consisting of merchants and diplomats along with a trio of Holy Militia officers. Asim nods to you as he takes his seat with his delegation on your left, “Admiral, you're looking well.”“It's all thanks to Fatima's cooking.” You reply with a smile. He laughs heartily, “It's a good thing you're marrying that girl.”“It's so nice that her reputation got to stay intact. I mean, you surely must know the rumors about pirates...” One of the Martian merchants, a rather plain-faced woman notes.“He carried her off over his shoulder and everything. It was all straight out of a romance novel.” General Hatsheput sighs, clasping her hands together.“Ooh, that's lovely, where did you hear that?” The Martian asks, leaning forward with an expression of fascination, “Were there wistful glances?”“Aplenty! At first they were all snarling at each other, too.” General Hatsheput is clearly enjoying this far, far too much. “Oh, I have my sources...”“How strange, that you should see fit not to tell me about them when this pirate alliance has been my responsibility for months.” General Fairchild comments waspishly. “Would you mind keeping me more informed in the future?”“Oh, yes. Yes I would!” Regina Hatsheput's smile remains just as sweet as it was before.[Continued]
>>1636745Moe has done well with Hatsheput.
Before Fairchild can figure out how to respond, or you can devise something sufficiently cutting to dissuade Fairchild from further claiming the Iron Kestrels as her 'responsibility', Asim cuts in loudly, “So, I hear that you're an afficionado of the French Harp, Admiral.”“Hai, Teitoku-sama has a musical soul.” Captain Oda nods firmly.“...What the Tartarus is a teitoku?” Colonel Luxol whispers to Colonel Stern.Colonel Stern shrugs, and whispers back, “Admiral, Captain Oda Yoritomo is something of a...peculiarity in this section of space.” You see the old man wince slightly.“Perhaps you could give us a tune?” Asim suggests.“I would very much rather not listen to the warblings of an antique instrument like that.” General Fairchild interjects.You stare her dead in the eye as you pull the harmonica out of your jacket pocket and croon a little blues on it. “I say, should I have brought my guitar?” Duke Eustace de Rothschild-Beauchamps arrives last, looking weary, with bags under his eyes and a strained smile. He has a small delegation, just himself, a handful of knights in heavy, high-quality armor of black and gold, and one in red, whose helmet has a Grecian-style crest and a shortsword at its belt. You can hear General Fairchild's teeth grind at the suggestion.Oda stares at the shortsword, and frowns, speaking quietly, “Aniki, I rec-”You look at him and shake your head, “Later.” It's a good thing to know Caesar is safe, at least.You clear your throat, “Since we're all here, let's get to business. Firstly, everyone here is under my protection. Even if you are lifelong enemies, do no violence to each other, or it will be returned in kind.”>[Now, as for the matter of the Paladin, Countess Loriette Marie le Kennedy...]>[Now, as for the matter of the Belt's greater geopolitical status...]
>>1636751>>[Now, as for the matter of the Paladin, Countess Loriette Marie le Kennedy...]Do this first so we can change the conversation towards us joining the SSL and have this be forgotten.
>>1636751>>1636760>[Now, as for the matter of the Paladin, Countess Loriette Marie le Kennedy...]Agreed.
>>1636751Tricky. More for the geopolitical than the Pally since it will lead to that. If we do the Paladin first they will try to force the situation. Keeping Lori under our control could also be one of the things talked about for us joining.
>>1636751>>[Now, as for the matter of the Paladin, Countess Loriette Marie le Kennedy...]
>>1636751>[Now, as for the matter of the Paladin, Countess Loriette Marie le Kennedy...]Oh boy, I have been waiting all week for this
Feels kind of dead for such a big event happening tonight.
>>1636791Still don't understand lurking in quests since anons participating is a incredibly important.
>>1636786To be fair, some may be prepping for tomorrow. 4th o' July and all.
>>1636796I get it, just feels kinda weird being this dead when we're doing something this important.
>>1636793Got nothing to say.
>>1636802Come on you have to have some opinion about what's going on.
>>1636751>[Now, as for the matter of the Paladin, Countess Loriette Marie le Kennedy...]
>>1636720Here, I made it betterI miss making stupid edits like this
>>1636807I come for robots and robot related activities.
>>1636819So just pretend everybody in the room is a robot.
>>1636800Well, what is there to say? We have the entire situation covered through various plans. By the looks of it, Cabot is off being a pain and will likely need to be punched dead in the streets before she tries to make more orphans.
“Now, as to the matter of the Paladin, Countess Loriette Marie le Kennedy...” You fold your hands on the table, “The reason why all of you are here.” This, you have begun to realize, isn't true. What they want is to know whose side you're on and solidify an alliance if possible. Aside from Fairchild, who you're sure would rather just ventilate Auditorium. “Servant of the Green Men, murderer of SSL soldiers, and a traitor to mankind.” She chimes in, right on cue.“A traitor? Really, isn't it a bit rich for you to be saying that? After all, you used your own civilians as a shield and tried to blame the Pirate King for it.” Duke Eustace leans back in his chair.“You destroyed a colony, you filthy cultist dog, you're lucky I don't order the Iulia Maesa to open fire on your vessel.” She snaps.He raises his eyebrows, “Breaking the peace would be more unfortunate for you than for me...but don't take my word for it. Do it. Do it right now. Do it and see what happens.” He gets even more comfortable, “In the event violence breaks out, I am prepared to die for my country, especially if it means killing several high-ranking enemy officers. You might be less replaceable than me.”You frown, that's a very odd thing for him to say. “Besides.” He continues, “You destroyed that colony. You fired first and shattered the hull in multiple places. How many would have died even if we had immediately disengaged and you began rescue procedures? You certainly seemed in no hurry to do so.”“That's a damned lie!” She jumps to her feet, her face white, slamming her hands down on the table, “How dare you sit here encouraging Starwind to put on airs and throwing accusations at me you damned CULTIST!?”General Hatsheput trades glances with you, she smiles a little. >[Ask what they're willing to offer]>[Inform them all that Loriette isn't actually for sale]>[Start a fight]
>>1636786I spent the last half hour making this monstrosity>>1636817>>1636751>[Now, as for the matter of the Paladin, Countess Loriette Marie le Kennedy...]
>>1636839>[Inform them all that Loriette isn't actually for sale]
>>1636839>[Start a fight]
>>1636837Well when are we going to go hunt down that guy we said we'd kill? Should we try and learn more from Master Asia before the duel?>>1636839>Egg both sides onSounds fun.
>>1636839>>[Start a fight]Wonderful!
>>1636839>>[Ask what they're willing to offer]For Fairchild to start first at least, have her say all that stuff.. then cut her off with >[Inform them all that Loriette isn't actually for sale]She seems to be the only one out of the loop.
>>1636839>Sit and listen to them to trade escalating insult s>Then interrupt by telling them she's no longer up for sale
>>1636839>[Inform them al that Loriette isn't actually for sale]Sorry, mates. Necromonger tradition: We keep what we kill. Or, in this case, bed.
>>1636864Way I see it? It's bully Fairchild for being out of the loop. Asim will likely help us seguway this to what everyone but Fairchild is here for, suggesting that perhaps us joining a faction will be a way to keep the Paladin safe from the other side... while making Fairchild freak out hopefully.
I just realized, how come Rosita is not in the meeting with us?
>>1636944Probably planning to be fashionably late and distract everyone during the negotiations.
>>1636944Hopefully as a surprise. Need as many good ones as we can get.
“When was the last time Jove performed a miracle for you, I wonder?” The Duke's eyes narrow slightly, “The only false gods I see here are yours.”This time, Asim cuts in, “The miracle of Mars' restoration is all the proof I need of Allah, but that is beside the point, isn't it Roarke?” “Just so, the real question is what all of you are willing to offer for Loriette.” You sit back and fold your arms, looking expectantly around the room. For a moment, there's silence, except for the muffled noise of the air recirculators. You suppose they're each waiting to hear what the others say.Asim looks surprised for a moment, then smiles and nods, “Mars is content to relinquish its stake in these proceedings, so long as the Paladin is not returned to Avalon.”For some reason, the Duke looks like he's just swallowed something bitter.General Fairchild stares at Asim, then brings up a holographic list on the PC built into her headdress, “We are prepared to offer the use of the following colonies under joint SSL supervision for you to build and repair your forces, against my better judgment.” There are half a dozen names on there, none major enough for you to recognize offhand, but they're familiar-ish. No serious military bases, but civilian colonies with bases on them, you...think. One you remember is a mining colony.“Just the use of them!?” Miles squawks, “I wouldn't trade packing peanuts for that! Roarke, gimme something to throw at her!”“Admiral Starwind!” General Fairchild snaps, outraged.“What? She has a point. I'm not much of a renter. At least I can spend credits without having to deal with bureaucrats.” You shrug innocently.She sighs, “I suppose I can convince the Senate to authorize the colonies to be put in your name. IF you allow the SSL forces access to them on demand and...”“No. I don't do demands.” You adjust your shades, “I don't let anyone else roost on my colonies without permission, either.”“What about Auditorium?” Miles questions.“That's Rosita's place, I'm sleeping with her, it's different.” You protest.Colonel Luxol seems to be doing his best not to burst out laughing.“I heard my name, darling~!” Rosita sweeps in, resplendent in a brilliant pink dress several shades more modest and innocent than her usual attire. Her hair is in ribbons and she's holding a tray of pomegranate cookies, “Sorry I'm late~!” She kisses your cheek, “I was baking!” Those three words are a little terrifying, but...but the cookies look alright...>[You've got too much to live for, don't take a cookie]>[Do it, Roarke. Eat a cookie]
>>1636978>[Do it, Roarke. Eat a cookie]
>>1636978>[Do it, Roarke. Eat a cookie]The things we do for love.
>>1636978>>[Do it, Roarke. Eat a cookie]Offer some to Eustace and Fairchild as well. Rule of Cool it, keep our poker face the entire time, and treat it like what Sam told you about dealing with this sort of stuff.Also, pray she did not mix up the sugar and salt.
>>1636978>>[Do it, Roarke. Eat a cookie]Make everyone else eat one too so we look cooler for not being phased by the awful taste.
>>1637002>>[Do it, Roarke. Eat a cookie]This. They will taste like victory.
>>1637002>"How, how are you the only one not in pain?!">"I have eaten Rosita's cooking many times."
>>1637022>Are you going to eat my wife's cookie or are we going to have a problem here?
>>1636978>[Do it, Roarke. Eat a cookie]This can only end well
>>1636978>[Do it, Roarke. Eat a cookie]>Little did those living at the time know that for some reason, one of Roarke's soon-to-be wives decided to poison him. Despite all the questions asked and years of searching, no one has found an answer.
>>1637029>>1637022>>1637011>>1637010my fellow Kestrels may i bring something to your attention.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17473_Freddiemercurynow do we make this glorious rock ours?
>>1637072If we're recognized as a nation most likely we'll own all of the belt including that one.
>>1637078should we make a statue of him out of it?
>>1637078feels like we have to build something there. A museum, a statue, something.
>>1637083Floating space memorial for all the great 80s artist's?
>>1637100It would be the most inside joke ever. It's like if you made a museum to early medieval bards, almost no one would understand it and have any idea what we're talking about. It would be great.
Your heart beats loudly. “Well, go on? I made plenty for everyone.” She sets them down and curtsies.Miles gives you a terrified glance, and whispers, “Roarke, remember the pie?”You remember. You'll never be able to NOT remember.“That was just a small mistake.” Rosita harrumphs, “These are positively perfect in every way. Just like me.” She puts her hands on her hips, pouting. The plate looms before you. Menacingly. Piled high with delightful sugary treats, pomegranate arils standing like tumbled, volcanic monoliths on each hill of doughy woe amidst large chunks of chocolate and oatmeal. The tray is huge, easily enough for everyone here to have plenty of cookies, she doesn't do things by halves.“Yes, yes you are.” Your voice doesn't shake even a hair, reaching out to take the first cookie. “Some would say a man who chooses to spread his love so thin deserves everything he gets, Admiral Starwind.” General Fairchild remarks, sounding snippy and smug.“Clemmy helped.” Rosita remarks, and Fairchild's smile curdles like old milk.Everyone is looking at you, seemingly waiting, “Well?” You ask. If you're going, you're not going alone, “Dig in. Unless you distrust my wife's cooking.” Duke Eustace snags one, takes a bite, and chews it thoughtfully.Seeing as he doesn't immediately spit it out or keel over, you bite down on yours.It's sweet. Really, really sweet. She used a little too much sugar, but at least it's not salt, this time. It's soft, a bit doughy, not crunchy at all. That's fine with you, dry cookies aren't as good as moist ones.She used too many pomegranate arils, but despite the unusual texture they taste good. All in all, it's a lovely homemade cookie.You take another, and Rosita smiles. When you grab a third for after the second is finished, she beams radiantly and kisses your cheek. “Best darling.” She murmurs happily, and eschews a chair to sit on your lap, her expression daring anyone to say anything about it.It turns out that trusting your wife pays off, after all. "I think I'll try seafood next." She remarks, "Now that I've mastered baking, there's this dish called 'fugu' that sounds really interesting."[Continued]
>>1637121Was at AX, so just saw this.Let's hold off of the fugu for now.
>>1637121>She used a little too much sugar, but at least it's not salt, this time.
>>1637121>fugu' that sounds really interestingyea, how about no for that right now
>>1637121>"Now that I've mastered baking, there's this dish called 'fugu' that sounds really interesting."
>>1637121I feel like Cabot and Fairchild serving as Rosita's taste testers is a fate worse than what we can come up with.
>>1637121>fuguRemember Rosita just the tasty fish part
>>1637143Be kinda hilarious if Cabot was a baking enthusiast like her source counterpart.
“That's a pity, I'd rather keep tasting your baking.” You munch on cookies.She wrinkles her nose, “It was a joke, Fatima says it takes years to learn how to make and if I do it wrong it's poisonous.” She mutters, afterward, “...She was making a really unfair comparison to what would happen if I didn't use measuring cups. “Can we get back to business?” Fairchild snaps. “Honestly, Starwind, are you trying to distract us?”“No, I'M trying to feed HIM. I think occasionally you, in particular, need to be reminded that this is my colony and I'll feed my husband cookies whenever I want. Now back to dear Loriette. I haven't missed the part where you make a snarly face and scream because you're not allowed to torment anyone weaker than you today, have I? I was so looking forward to that! Did my darling tell you what would happen if you ACTUALLY tried to crucify her, let alone in my backyard? I'm sure he did. I'm sure he was much too nice because he's too calm to really let you know what an unlovable crust of fish pace in the gutter of the UJCIDF you are. You're irritating, your ship is ugly, that hair color does NOT suit you, you're not tall enough to pull off that 'space queen' look you're going for with that uniform and the heels on those boots don't help...honestly, what were you thinking with those? Combat OR fashion, dear, you can't have both unless you've got the verve to pull it off, like me. Your perfume doesn't suit you. You're beastly to your nicest subordinates...oh, stop looking so horrified, Regina, it's time SOMEBODY told her...and even if I wasn't quite sure I liked having such lively competition at first I'm grateful every day that poor, innocent Clemmy got away from you before you drugged and raped her or something awful. Your sidearm is flashy Lunar trash that you probably picked because it was expensive or you honestly thought the engravings and expensive scope would make you a better shot...compensating for something with that, maybe? Your SOUL squad was nowhere near as good as A, who you were, again, beastly to. Actually, did your squad even keep the same members for more than a handful of missions? Its commander isn't even Jovian, is he? Wow. I can't tell whether I dislike or pity you more, General Fairchild. All of the scummy things you've done to raise yourself up, and you're still just a trashy woman.” Rosita shakes her head pityingly, “Human refuse. Unwanted leavings.”Fairchild just stares at her, a rainbow of furious expressions washing across her face.Rosita leans towards her slightly, “Human garbage.”[Continued]
>>1637197Damn Red, save some roasting for the rest of us. I hope the table is bolted down.
>>1637214Did you bring an entire burn ward with you when you brought those cookies Red? Cause Fairchild is going to need one after that onslaught of burns
>>1637214shit son, fuckin brutal
>>1637223A fire that burns so brightly, Solaire anon mistakes it for a sun and praises THAT!
>>1637214What a woman.
>>1637214>Captcha is Stop GeorgeI dunno who George is, but I don't want this to ever end.
>>1637214>Rosita leans towards her slightly, “Human garbage.”Rosita just went all Sarkeesian on Fairchild.
>>1637251Nah, her barbs actually have bite to them and some truths. After all, who the hell scopes a side arm?
>>1637264t.Man who never played Fallout
>>1637267Now I have the urge to play Vegas.
>>1637267>using guns in fallout>not explosives>not melee and fistsphilistine.
>>1637272>Not killing everything for hundreds of feet away with headshots.Melee and fists are shit anyway and aren't that useful.
>>1637214>thought the engravings and expensive scope would make you a better shotStealth MGS
>>1637282Tell that to my Shadowrunner Adept.
>>1637282>Ballistic fist>shit thems fighting words Thunder
>>1637214I feel like the whole quest was leading up to this point. Also that we should add > Settling for Cabot wasn't even second best either if her bedroom skills are as sloppy as her wet work.
>>1637303Sadly only in Vegas. Still pretty fun going toe to toe with a Deathclaw with that. Still love my Brush gun more though.
>>1637305Save the settling for later when we can blast her all at once how she's always gotten the silver.>>1637303>Acting like Snipers weren't betterThere's a reason all the best guns in Fallout have scopes.
>>1637309got a mod that lets me put a scope on the Brush gun and Trail Carbine. they become pretty good snipers that way
>>1636723Man, Beckingham is Hardcore.
>>1637314while i will not deny that popping skulls with the Anti-material rifle is fuckin dope. theres something to be said about the feeling of satisfaction of punching a Raider's head apart
>>1637314Brush gun with the Cowboy perk is pretty up there. Also has style points.
“Are you trying to provoke me?” General Fairchild asks, evenly, “Because I'm aware of your reputation with a pistol and will NOT be suckered into a duel.”“Are you wearing pads? Because your frame suggests you wouldn't naturally have much up here.” Rosita pats her own, extremely generous bosom, “I mean, there are all manner of surgeries and things that can be done...and judging by your age I'm guessing you must have had some work done. Trying to relive those teenage years, eh?” She waggles her finger, “I can understand, but for someone as...well...worn-out as you to cling to your youth so desperately is more than a little pathetic. Then again, unlike me, you don't seem capable of maturing attractively at all! Poor Lysa, she needs a better role model than you, before she turns into a bitter old hag destined to end up alone if she doesn't meet a messy end trying to ruin other people's lives. Maybe she can stay with us, she's far from the first SOUL pilot to do so, and no wonder.”“Put a leash on your bitch, Starwind, until she understands how formal negotiations are conducted among adults.” Fairchild's voice is so cold, so clipped, that it could give you frostbite. The Martian contingent looks fairly shocked and aghast, but some of the Jovians are trying not to smile. One, though, isn't. One of the guards on the Jovian side, face hidden behind a helmet, doesn't seem jovial at all. On the contrary, her hands have curled into fists, her knuckles dangerously close to the hilt of her rapier-pattern monosword.“Please, your girlfriend can stand up for herself.” Rosita scoffs, noticing, “She's got an awfully big mouth when it comes to threatening pirates. Formal negotiations, Fairchild? Me, a bitch? You stupid, self-righteous whore, this is a RANSOM! I am the QUEEN of ransoms!” Her full, rich voice, blossoms into a roar, “Do you think, for even a SECOND, that I, RED SIREN, would let you just...have Loriette!? If...IF...by some miracle, my darling decided to give her to the Jovian military, do you REALLY think he would give her to you in ANY way that you could take credit for it!? For one thing, if she IS a cultist, what sane person tortures a victim of brainwashing to death instead of deprogramming her!?”[Continued]
>>1637321He didn't make it into a goblet though. Shame.
>>1637330Thank you for outing yourself Cabot. That makes things easier.
>>1637330Rosita please, the 13th amendment makes it illegal to own a nigga like this
>>1637337Would be pretty damn difficult for her not to. Rosita is a fucking beast.
>>1637348Alas, the United States has been dead for centuries.
>>1637330Spitting fire like a motherfucking dragon.
>>1637330Rosita best girl. Her target isn't Fairchild, it's to reveal Cabot.
>>1637330I hope this is being recorded We could just release these sick beats Red's dropping as her new album She did say it was going to be more primal
>>1637322>>1637314The best way to play New Vegas is as a Gunslinger.
What's the difference between Red Siren's mouth and the Megabass?One is a weapon of mass destruction capable of laying waste to entire fleets... And the other is the Megabass.
>>1637380 Both have had incredibly powerful men inside them.
>>1637380alternatively, one sucks and the other blows
>>1637348>Nigga laughter in the background>>1637337I got a 20 on her doing something stupid that lets us gut her like a fucking fish.
>>1637408She's pretty much a dead woman walking at this time since Roarke is going to demand to duel her. Not to mention she'll be going into it not knowing we have bullshit kung fu powers.
>>1637418>it not knowing we have bullshit kung fu powers.considering she likely watched the security footage of us punching an entire wall down with Fairchild, she probably knows about our bullshit kung-fu powers.
>>1637425Remember Fairchild thinks that was because of our gloves and us adding some sonic weapon into them.
>>1637432Hey, if she tries to come at us and gets shot to bits by everyone guarding us, I won't complain. I'd rather not give her a public death and dying as a nameless idiot works fine to me.
>>1637453Once again, she killed our friends, our brother, and our captain. She needs to be made an example of so people see what happens when you attack people Roarke cares about. Her dying obscurely does nothing since she knows how much we hate her and won't forget her.
>>1637462And thinking on it further even if you want her to end in a way she won't be remembered she is going to be remembered regardless. It will be a noted fact that she killed Roarke Starwind's, a famous figure who will be written about, brother. And then you would also have to go and stop the other Sol nations from writing her down or acknowledging who she is. So it really isn't possible to do what you want and erase her from history.
>>1637462And you think that will stop them? If anything it would make people go for them because we'd try and be showy about it. Being fancy creates openings where they can just do it again. A brutal ending does nothing.>>1637474That would require people to talk about her in any detail. Us included, and talking about her ourselves is a stupid thing to do. As for those who would know, that would be the upper brass who would likely be smart enough to keep their mouths shut because an officer doing that shit reflects badly on them.Sides, not every killer is named or put in the records. Why? Because some are deemed unimportant. And thats the point. She will just be your standard murderer/assassin that died due to her own stupidity. Roarke may become historically famous, but that does not mean she will.
The guard lurches forward...and Fairchild grabs her arm, and roughly shoves her back, shaking her head silently and glaring daggers at Rosita.“Tsch. A few more feet, and we could have had some fun. I'm quicker on the draw than you.” Rosita's dress might be innocent, but the big, puffy sash around its waist rolls back slightly to reveal a glint of metal as she pats the gun-shaped bulge in it.“Red, I really, really, really, really, really hate to interrupt you here...but there's a problem with her payment, anyway.” Miles looks up from her PC, “All of those colonies she's offering? They're ones Avalon hit recently. Any useful facilities are wrecked and looted and most or all of the civvies have evacuated. The mines could maybe be restored for some of these, but it would be months before they were even remotely worth it.”“In other words...she tried to trick my darling.” Red Siren's voice rumbles like the thunder before a storm, melodious and primordially furious.“Yeah, more or less.” Miles shrugs, “Definitely a bitch move.”“Consider it an investment. This is wartime, we can't afford to hand over actual military bases to pirates, and besides, we already have one Paladin in my custody.” General Fairchild seems to find some refuge in cruelty, giving the Duke a faux-sweet smile, “Rest assured, she's being very well treated, I personally interrogate her daily. She's rather uncomfortable, though.”He rolls his eyes, “How charming. She'll be fine.”[Continued]
>>1637495>And you think that will stop them?I think it will discourage people from doing it like how it has for most of history.
>>1637496Miles is a treasure
“...But I think I've made myself clear more than enough times.” You interrupt, as loath as you are to do so, “When I said I wasn't handing her over to be tortured. If you think I'm the kind of man who would, then you shouldn't be doing business with me. For the sake of Jupiter's dignity. After all, what kind of monster would work with that sort of pirate?” You look her dead in the eyes. She stares back, “Then why bother to negotiate? Unless you plan to hand her over to Avalon...which, along with our Martian allies.” She puts the slightest additional emphasis on 'allies', “We would assuredly take as siding with Avalon against the Solar System. An act of war. I am not offering you these colonies out of anything but practical compassion. I don't need your Paladin. Take them or leave them, but don't you dare forget your place. You, your women, all of you, are just flotsam floating in the Belt. Once again, I'm offering charity to a member of your family, and once again you're throwing it in my face.”Duke Eustace, uncharacteristically colorless and quiet, suddenly sits bolt upright, a revelatory expression on his face. He grins, “Of course, we can't make any offers that would cause difficulty like that for you, Roarke. It would be unchivalrous in the extreme. Can't hold it against you at all, really, if you weren't able to do anything but...keep her.” He sighs heavily, shaking his head. It seems slightly staged, “Tell me, do you like her? Come now, be honest. I know your reputation, and as her superior I know that she's besotted with you. Can you tell me now, man-to-man, that you have feelings for her?”>[Yes]>[No]>[Uwaaah~]
>>1637505>What do you think?Shouldn't even have to answer that question at this point.
>>1637505>[Uwaaah~]Why else would Roarke be sleeping with her? He could get almost any woman he wanted if he tried hard enough.
>>1637505>>[Uwaaah~]Everyone gets in on this!
>>1637505>>[Uwaaah~]Keeping her is certainly an option.
>>1637505> . . . . You know I think I'm the only person to successfully recruit from Avalon. I wouldn't say I've turned her exactly, since she still cares for her homeland. But she seems to see my point of view that there are better ways to care for it such as holding those in power accountable to their actions . . . And their honour. Duty is only a virtue when it is virtuous.Twist the kniiiiiife. > Perhaps in exchange for our alliance, the SSL should transfer the Paladin currently in Fairchild's posession, definitely not care, to me. It would be more productive than pointlessly torturing her at the very least. > If I can keep a group of Pirates honourable and just, I just might be able to handle improving the quality of the SSL forces a little bit as well.
Just to be clear, uwaaah isn't a neutral reply at all.
>>1637525But is it the Troll Fairchild option?
>>1637525Yeah, it's like Roarke feigning embarrassment, right? Were we supposed to pick another option with it?
>>1637524Sounds way too official and stuffy to be something Roarke says.
>>1637524>>1637505Or whatever. You get my point. We like her, she likes us, and we're not only effective but a good PR boost for the SSL to promote among the Colonies as a kinder, gentler, roguishly good looking face. God knows the women love us more than they do Fairchild.
>>1637529I'm not a word guy. I just want to turn everything on Fairchilds head by pointing our that her torture porn hobby isn't even effective and that we've done more than she has without even killing any Jovian Generals. Although maybe we could try it with just one.Seriously, who does she think is buying her act in this room?
>>1637503Then you don't read a lot about history or local events. Copy cat killers, people taking the name of famous trouble makers, even taking things that someone they are facing dislike have been done for millennia. Muramasa blades were called 'Tokugawa' killers and were collected by rebels because the blades harmed and killed several members of Ieyasu Tokugawa's family to the point where he hunted those blades down. No, with extremists and nutters, you put them down like a dog and bury the corpse in a shallow grave. No glory, no act of defiance or reaction. You make it so facing us brings nothing but death with no spectacle.
>>1637538Haven't seen too many people trying to blow up the House of Lords after Guy Fawkes
>>1637538It's Thunderbird. Good taste in music and waifus, but the edgiest motherfucker to ever be a living Papa Roach/Linkin Park soundtrack.
>>1637548You mean the guy with a holiday who the anonymous mask is patterned after a hit movie about a copycat?
>>1637550and also the master of the clutch 10.
>>1637548Also the most recent attack was March 22 2017.
>>1637550I kinda like some of Papa Roach's songs...
>>1637555He has his good points. His grasp of conflict resolution is not one of them.
>>1637559But do you have them as a soundtrack to your life? Also the Linkin Park and Jay-Z combo was good.
>>1637550>a living Papa Roach/Linkin Park soundtrack.You can't say I have good taste in music and then say that, it makes no sense.>>1637553They regularly burn an effigy of him on Fawkes day.>>1637557>Thinking a muslim terror attack was inspired by Guy Fawkes Sure keep telling yourself that, and it wasn't even an attack on the house of lords itself.
You feel a strange sensation, heat blooming in your cheeks, spreading to your ears, your forehead, your neck.“Oh Jove no...” You hear Fairchild whisper, “He's been subverted!”“Oh, shut up you heartless woman. She's a nice girl!” Rosita hmmphs. You make an incoherent noise in your throat as you reach for words and, for once in your life, fail to find them.“What in the sweet merciful name of Minerva was that, sir?” Captain Flint stares at you.“Did...did aniki just...uwaaah~?” Yoritomo clasps his hands to his cheeks, “Sugoi! His kokoro was warmed by their deadly battle!”“Both of you shut your mouths.” You grumble without rancor, “So what if I like her? She's a good woman.”The Duke nods emphatically, “Exactly. A good woman and a good pilot who's had a hard life. She's better off with you. In fact...” He smiles brilliantly, “...You should do the righteous thing, and marry her. If we win this war, by the grace of the Lady, then your union will establish you as a noble of Avalon and your people shall not be troubled. If we lose, well, at least she is safe and our people can look to you as a protector and leader...especially for those of our warriors who find themselves without a cause, needing to sell their swords to survive. Either way, it's the best for both of you and grants you the rights to her lands on Lorien, the capital world of the Principality of Avalon. Consider the ships a preemptive wedding present, you cheeky devil.” He winks outrageously.You can see a furious Fairchild preparing to object.>[Yes, of course!]>[Wait, no!]>[Does it matter whether I agree to this or not?]
>>1637568Wait, before I vote, haven't we already decided she was being included in the wedding?
>>1637568>>[Yes, of course!]I wonder if its too much to hope that fairchild will die of an aneurysm on the spot.
>>1637568>>[Does it matter whether I agree to this or not?]Eustace you sly fuckalso fuck you Captcha, telling me to click cars and giving me signs instead
>>1637567You listen to good music.You write posts that would fit as song lyrics for those bands though.>[Yes, of course!]It's not bribery, it's a wedding in politics!
>>1637568>[Does it matter whether I agree to this or not?]
>>1637568>>[Wait, no!]No way in hell are we agreeing to housing Avalonian soliders in our kingdom and paint ourself as an Avalonian sympathizer. We'd be paint a giant red flag on our back and we'll never had good relations with Sol. This fucker is pushing our backs to the wall and trying to force us to side with Avalon due to Sol hating us.
>>1637568>>[Does it matter whether I agree to this or not?]Neutralness needs to be kept in control, even if body trolling.
>>1637574That would be a good point to raise.Having some legitimacy to help with whatever situation post-war is just the icing on the cake.
>>1637587Not Avalonian legitimacy.
>>1637583> It's a poor gift to give someone a thing they already own.
>>1637587Getting legitimacy form a foreign power who is at war with your neighbors is paramount to spitting in their eyes and declaring war you dumbass. And if they don't win the war then guess what you got no one protecting you in a SEA FULL OF ENEMIES.
>>1637589Why not? Unless they plan on killing every last Avalonian which would be both difficult, and also cause unrest in their client colonies. Us having legitimacy in their hierarchy would allow us to assume a post-war leadership role to prevent conflict and rebellion.Worked for most nations throughout history.
>>1637568>>[Does it matter whether I agree to this or not?]
>>1637574Some of this is just confirming stuff in case, say, a wild Loriette hater shows up later and goes "REEEE WONG YOU RAILROADED US INTO MARRYING AN AVALONIAN WHOOOORE"
>>1637593> What was Europe for all of its history and the current age.Brits still own industry in SA. Americans own companies in the ME. Saudi and Qatar have ownership stakes in American companies.
>>1637595Avalon will cease to exist in any meaningful way after the war if Sol wins. Their old hierarchy won't be kept and will be replaced with a new one of Sol's choosing.
>>1637597You can say Thunderbird ;-)
>>1637595Got a point. I still stick by being neutral, but in the end, our enemy is the Green Lady. Legitimacy does quell rebellions better than bloody displays and not being a butcher tends to do well in many situations.
>>1637568>[Does it matter whether I agree to this or not?]I'm just gonna go with this then. Since I'm pretty sure we're already going to marry her and siding with Avalon is a poor idea.>>1637597So the first option is agreeing to basically a "bonus" on top of the marriage, 2 is saying no to both, and 3 is saying we're marrying her anyway?
>>1637599Yeah and short of killing everyone, an easier way to do that is to have someone with a legitimate claim to leadership oversee and ratify the transition.Also I bet we can get a swanky hat.
>>1637582>without a causeHe's implying that if they lose Avalonian knights would rather get recruited by you and enjoy some protection than get hunted down by someone like Fairchild, not that you have to serve as a base for them. Remember TWO of your wives are ex-UJCIDF and one is a Martian masked ace with enough skill and renown that if she'd been on Qu'lir for real and announced himself to the Martians she would likely have been given temporary rank on par with a Captain at least and assigned control of Martian mecha forces.
>>1637602>>1637568 I'll go with this too. But I do want to point out he just tried to gift us something we already owned. We conquered those ships, not her. Maybe we'll give them to her as a wedding gift though.Maybe we'll get her a brand new one.
>>1637609We have our dick in so many pots.
>>1637605All three options are exactly what they seem. Yes, No, and "does it matter what I say?"
>>1637574nope. >>1637568>[Does it matter whether I agree to this or not?]I mean we ARE willing to keep her, but you're coming on pretty strong >>1637582We already house deserters and traitors who sold top of the line, bleeding edge equipment to a criminal enterprise. >>1637599yeah, but a ligitmate connection to the old Hierarchy would make the process go smoother. AND give us a better position to leverage Avalons post war restructuring to our advantage. as for the soldiers, why would the SSL hate us for pointing the remnants of their enemy away from them? Its better than leaving those shits to their own devices.
>>1637609So all we'd be is a place where they wouldn't get shot on sight?I can work with that.
So is the general consensus that you're marrying Loriette?>[Yes]>[No]
>>1637607We aren't being put in charge of Avalon you mong. It doesn't matter if we're the Queen's lost son we aren't getting jack shit.>>1637609And taking in Avalonian soldiers will paint us as a sympathizer and let them worm their way into our military and bring their bullshit beliefs and ideas into our kingdom. And then theirs the whole debacle of them putting other allegiances above our state.>>1637615Yea but they aren't siding with a being that tried to wipe out humanity and are currently at war with our system. And they would have us because who knows what we're doing with them and why we took in people who are the enemies of our whole system.
>>1637620>[Yes]But No to any of the shit he's saying.
>>1637609A good thing. Even if we do go Sol, we are likely the most reasonable of options for civvies and talent. That would help our manpower issue by leaps and bounds, and having people not fight to the death when facing us preserves man power and could even get us more ships.
>>1637620>YesBut because we want to, not because the duke said we should
>>1637620>[Yes]Y'know, she caught a really lucky break. In most any other quest, nobody would care about a girl that joined in the waifu wars as late as she did.
>>1637626How do you think our Sol men will like having Avalonians join them in mass?
>>1637620>[Yes]We were going to do it anyway
>>1637634You mean the pirates who've spent most of their careers running from the UJCIDF and MHM?
>>1637634> Oh No Waifus from Outer Space.They'll be fine with it. After all weren't you the one who said "Avalon essentially won't exist after the war"? Not to mention they have no love for Jove especially but not much for Mars either, hence why they're with us.
>>1637630Harems are the will of the dice in this quest.
>>1637642>>1637641Not liking the military doesn't mean the same thing as being fine with extrasolar people who are actively fighting your people. And even if Avalon won't exist it won't take the Avalon out of the people who lived their whole lives under it.
>>1637646We're not opening the gates and letting every tom dick and harry inside, all we're doing is being a neutral place where, just because someone was born on Avalon or fought for her, they won't get shot on sight.This ain't a charity, just a simple agreement not to shoot someone because of where they were born.Now if they start shit when they get here then we space their ass into the uncaring void, but we at least give them a chance to visit peacefully first.
>>1637646SEE >>1637641Guess we should get rid of all the EX-UCJIDF and EX-MHM in our group as well then OH WAIT.
>>1637646Thunder. You're Fairchilds ideal pirate.
>>1637664Them are fighting words, man.
Just to be clear, marrying Loriette does not cut you off from the "join the SSL after declaring independence" option.Which should be the next big thing you consider.
>>1637659>Implying inner cultural fights are anywhere near as bad as fights between cultures with no common bond.And you're Avalon's ideal patsy. I do what's best for me and my own before anyone.>>1637656And your running the risk of letting in people who will undermine our nation. It only takes one person getting close and then bam one dead waifu. Anons want to use Avalon as a solution to our manpower problem so I doubt they are going to do extreme vetting, and what's to stop an Avalonian about lying about his real allegiances.
>>1637675When do we get to decide if we're joining our lord and master Azathoth?Or do we get an option to choose his lesser known brother, Mr. Wong?
>>1637678What's to stop an ex-soldier, pirate, or bounty hunter from lying and doing the same?In fact, something like that already happened, when Roarke was attacked by an assassin.
>>1637683Nothing and I want more vetting for them too. Avalon as has someone they worship as a Goddess and believe she's holy so I natural trust their allegiance much less since we're nothing but a man from a place their at war with.
>>1637691so what your saying is we need a Space Wall?
“Does it matter whether I agree to this or not?” You ask, folding your arms again.The Duke shrugs, “I don't want to make accusations, but...if you were to, say, despoil her and then refuse to preserve her honor through marriage, I would be potentially obligated to settle things with a duel. Of course, that won't happen, because you ARE planning to marry her, are you not?” He smiles, “I'm a bit too old to be fooled.”“It's a poor gift, giving me something I already own.” You grumble, “I looted those ships fairly.”“So you did, Roarke, so you did. Of course, if I did actually give you anything you didn't already own, your enemies on the Solar side...” He looks directly at Fairchild, “...Would claim I was bribing you for an alliance. Think of this simply as me blessing your union despite standing across the battlefield from you. Good luck.”You grumble more, “I am marrying her, but not because of anything you said, and I'm not agreeing to any alliances or responsibilities beyond that.”“Oh, naturally. I hadn't realized when I first arrived how dangerous your current situation is and how tenuous things were. The Belt is a complicated place, and if I allied with you now it would only bring you trouble. Couldn't ask it of you. Terribly rude of me.” Why does he look so damnably smug? “Even if we end up fighting, at least we can trust you not to torture your captives.” Again, he looks directly at Fairchild.“This is treason, Starwind. She is an enemy of Sol.” She hisses, “Marrying her means...”“Not a damned thing to you.” You cut her off, “What? Is she going to influence me in a pro-Avalon direction? I'm not an easy man to influence, and she'd be competing with two former SOUL pilots and a devout Martian. By your logic I'm already three times as loyal to the Solar System as most married men, at least. I'm agreeing to nothing but marrying another of my women. That's it.”“Congratulations, you don't need my approval for this, but nonetheless I can't say I dislike a man taking responsibility.” Asim Abdul stands up, “Is it safe to say that this phase of the negotiations is complete?”You nod, “Yes, it is.”“Phase? What phase, what are you talking about?” General Fairchild frowns, “Nothing is complete. I demand a commitment from Starwind to-”“I don't do demands. Not from you.” You cut her off yet again. You're enjoying this. Now is the moment you've been waiting for.[Continued]
>>1637695No we need strong recruitment verifications, a focus on quality vs quantity since we can never match the numbers of Mars or Jupiter, cutting edge mecha tech and weaponry, and a means of leaving the system to raid other systems. Beside a wall won't work in 3d, we'd need a space Cube.
>>1637678the same thing stopping a Jovian. Or a Martian, a Lunnie, a Terran, anyone really. Hell, they already have. To be frank, Sol's have as much, if not more reason to kill us than the greenies.
>>1637668I notice you didn't say they were incorrect .
>>1637695We own the Asteroid belt, we ARE the space wall!
>>1637699I'm particularly fond of triangles.
>>1637703We're a brick . . . . HOOOOUUUUUSEhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gVz_cDOsFLA
>>1637705A triangle would be much harder to make than a space ring.
>>1637707But the ringworld is unstable.
Now we have to see the other girls reactions to us deciding we're marrying Lori too.
>>1637707Hmm... you're right. But any project on that scale would be impossible since no material could withstand the force, no matter the shape. Clearly we need to surround the Belt with armed satellites of a variety of shapes.
>>1637728In reality yes, building a 3d wall would be near impossible due to orbits of asteroids and blocking out sun light. Problem with the satellites is that we lack the manpower to staff them, our best bet for right now is to make our center of power deep in the belt and slowly over time extend outwards when we have the means to defend and utilize more of the belt.
>>1637738All we have to do is breed mandrakes to control and maintain the satellites. Each would only need one crewman and irregular supply deliveries then. Nothing could possibly go wrong.
>>1637744Come on you know if we use Mandrakes we're going to be attacked by some one eyed weirdo with a giant sword screaming about some bird and his waifu.
>>1637738Did you forgot that jumps aren't traceable and that there are a ton of hidden colonies? Security through obscurity. We just have to have the airlocks well sealed and guarded by big ass guns. Also not starting wars because "That Jovian looked at us funny." Which is what we all know you'll be clamoring for once the thing with Avalon isn't at the forefront.You're so xenophobic and war-hawkish I'd think you're a Saudi.
>>1637749That's a risk I'm willing to have other people deal with.
>>1637751>Wary of a group of cultists who worship a living "god" who tried to kill all of humanity in the past.>Hur you just want war Okay anon, whatever helps you sleep at night.>You're so xenophobic and war-hawkish I'd think you're a Saudi.Did you just assume all Saudi's are warhawks and xenophobic anon? That's pretty racist.
Now that I've decided that, yeah, I need to eat and do the big important declaration of independence on Wednesday...Now is the time for details. After all, this is your state. Anything you want to say (preferably not just wordplay or flowery speechcraft but actual demands and such, speak now or forever hold your peace.Here are the absolutes.Miles is getting promoted to National Secretariat, letting her continue doing what she does (making your life easier in all regards through research, doing your paperwork, using her connections and informants to line you up for your big heists as smoothly as possible) with more clout behind her.Richard is being promoted to Fleet Commissar. Effectively, he's the chief of personnel for your entire organization, and has your trust to mediate disputes and deal out justice in any cases that don't merit your personal attention. This gives them both the clout to deal with individual captains as more than your subordinate officers.Auditorium, Suleiman 2, Suleiman 3, Suleiman 4, and 16-Psyche are the five colonies currently composing your nation. Now that it exists, more will inevitably be added. For that matter, the fleet section of your master pastebin is going to be overhauled. I'll make a ship gallery or list of ship models similar to the Rogue's Gallery, list how many of each you have, and their names. The name of your nation is Eisentor.Now for the big question, I'm trusting you guys not to be assholes and only vote once. Yes or no. No fancy answers, no "buts", just a yes or no. Lurkers, you vote too.Will you join the Solar System League IF your conditions are met?>[Yes]>[No]
>>1637775>[Yes]Not joining will fuck us over so much and joining gives us all the benefits and legitimacy we need.
>>1637775Do you have a condensed list of all our conditions, or do I need to go through the archive?
>>1637790>Access to Sol Gateways>Duel with Cabot>Right to raid outside the system>Right to keep what we loot>To retain autonomous and independent command in a war footing.So far I believe this is what we're going for. Any other demands anons?
>>1637775>[Yes]as much as I like the Swiss route, thats not workable right now. >>1637794aren't most of the planets outside of the system members of the League?
>>1637794What a good question. Anons, please respond to Thunderbird's post here with your demands, not to mine.
>>1637800There are some from what I remember, but a good amount of them aren't.
>>1637775>>1637794Yeah, I'm good with those then.>>1637803Sorry I keep asking question, I really haven't been able to focus on any quest lately.
>>1637794That our laws are to be respected in our lands. That means that we can tax those who pass through if we so please and that criminals of our country are to be punished by us. That included pirates.
>>1637794This sounds fineNot sure if they will agree to all this, but if they do then I'll give them the [Yes]
>>1637775>[Yes]As much as I want to stay independent, I realize that it's not really possible, at least for the moment.
>>1637813After we're done getting a list together we should rank them based on importance with certain demands we'd be fine giving up.
>>1637794I can't really think of anything else to add to this other than the stuff posted here>>1637812also holy shit I have to be at work in 7 hours I need to get some sleep but I had to stay up for this.
>>1636713>and I'm going to need parenting advice soon myself.Haven't followed this quest in a minute, but did our boy Roarke finally knock some bitches up?
>>1637830We go at them like Zeus himself. I wouldn't be surprised if even Sam was pregnant.
>>1637845We'll just have to see.Abnormal things happen in space all the time.
>>1637812Not sure if I'm remembering it right but if your a criminal of a recognized nation the standard procedure is to ship them back to the nation for them to sentence.
>>1637775>>[Yes]They play ball we'll play ball.If not they can fuck off.
>>1637794>Any non-Eisentor colony in the Belt would be considered neutral territory and therefore subject to a defense tax.>Anti-piracy efforts will be led by Eisentor within the Belt.>Armed convoys are required to be registered and taxed with Eisentor, or otherwise be recognized as a pirate band.>Belt colonies are given a choice whether to join Eisentor or maintain the status quo.
>>1637867No.Normal procedure is to try them in the place where the crimes occured.Thats why extradition treaties exist and why everytime a serviceman in Japan fucks up, the US dropkicks them into a greyhound back to stateside.
>>1637899I should have known I was wrong since I remember learning about the American caning in Singapore.>>1637897If we're given dominion over all of the belt than we shouldn't have to worry about them operating in our territory, or having claims on those colonies.
>>1637907Yeah, but implication is not legalese without it in writing. We need to lock down on any unauthorized colony-building, ensure that our borders are actually secure from foreign warships able to go in and out with impunity, and actually secure us alternate revenue streams since we're no longer able to raid wily-nily without starting a war.
>>1637926Makes sense, that's why we need to get the right for extrasolar raiding since it'll be a good way to make us money while keeping us protected by the rest of the SSL. Since anyone who takes the fight back to Sol will have to deal with both Mars and Jupiter.
>>1637936The issue with raiding is that there is only so much one can do. It's good to set it up, but being able to sustain one's country without outside resources is important too. We don't want people getting antsy because times are lean in terms of raiding victims.
>>1637962Of course, raiding is just the icing on the cake. We'll mostly have to rely on it in the beginning to fund our industry and getting more materials to work with, but we'll reach a point in the near future where it'll be less of a need for survival and more just a way of supplementing the income.
>>1637968>An annual attempt at raiding EarthJust to keep our captain's who dream of reclaiming the home world happy
>>1637968Thats fine. With the way Psyche is shaping up and our own designs doing well in the tournament, we should be able to grow our mech markets with that.
>>1637775>YesWe'll have to go over conditions of course, but there is nothing to gain from staying outside the SSL.
>>1637978We'll have plenty of mechs for ourselves, altough i won't think we'll be able to sell many of them. Still, if we are going to expand our operations across the whole Belt, as well as raiding avalon space, we will need more ships as well, plus of course trained pilots and crew. Avalonian mercs help with this, but i don't want to rely on them to fight Avalon. Our next priorities should be setting up a shipyard and the Aviary.>>1637794> Sole juristiction over piracy and criminal activity within the BeltIf this is going to be our responsibility, i don't want Jupiter or Mars butting in whenever it's convenient for them to punish "pirates".> the right to tax ships crossing through the Belt and enjoying our protectionNeed to fund this defense of the belt somehow. Perhaps we could strech this to all foreign and independent colonies in the Belt too, but that might be too far.Still, we should probably reach out to all independent or corporate colonies in the Belt and offer our protection to them, for a price. No money, no protection. With the presence of Avalon and the track record of the others against them, i think a lot would agree.
>>1638141>>1637897Should be covered with this.
>>1637775> Yes or no. No fancy answers, no "buts", just a yes or no. > Yes niggaAll these people already making demands and shit.
>>1638141Also we should charge am extradition fee. Violation of our laws is considered immediate relinquishment of our protection.Extradition treaties are are silly since we're pirates and should pretty much expect our dudes to break the law when they're outside the system.If they want to play stupid games . . . . . In other words, feel free to break laws in other nations just make sure you have an escape plan or people willing to purchase you back.
>>1638224>All these people already making demands and shit.>makes demands
>>1638141Well, Psyche will likely be the Aviary in all fairness. Safest place, right next to our mech production lines, and will be one of our central seats of power.Could look into other defenses for it too, like some asteroids to serve as cover.. or ship scale anti beam chaff.
>>1637794Thinking on it, should we temporarily ban bahamutcorp and the other megacorp from setting up shop so the little guys can build up?
Alright so now its looking like >Access to Sol Gateways>Duel with Cabot>Right to raid outside the system>Right to keep what we loot>To retain autonomous and independent command in a war footing.>Our laws are to be respected in our land >Any non-Eisentor colony in the Belt would be considered neutral territory and therefore subject to a defense tax.>Anti-piracy efforts will be led by Eisentor within the Belt.>Armed convoys are required to be registered and taxed with Eisentor, or otherwise be recognized as a pirate band.>Belt colonies are given a choice whether to join Eisentor or maintain the status quo.> the right to tax ships crossing through the Belt and enjoying our protectionAlright anons, now we need to decide which of these are most important and what we're willing to give up in the negotiation since they aren't going to give us everything.
>>1638335Most important:>Access to Sol Gateways>Duel with Cabot>Right to raid outside the system>Right to keep what we loot>Our laws are to be respected in our land >To retain autonomous and independent command in a war footing.> the right to tax ships crossing through the Belt and enjoying our protectionNegotiable:>Belt colonies are given a choice whether to join Eisentor or maintain the status quo.They don't have to be given this option immediately, it makes it sound like we are outright annexing SSL colonies. Given time and fair treatment we can diplomaticize many of them.>Armed convoys are required to be registered and taxed with Eisentor, or otherwise be recognized as a pirate band.I'm sure many corporations/nations are going to want special privileges here.>Anti-piracy efforts will be led by Eisentor within the Belt.Barring exceptional circumstances.Willing to drop?:>Any non-Eisentor colony in the Belt would be considered neutral territory and therefore subject to a defense tax.This just sounds like outright extortion from the get go. If these colonies were attacked by non-Eisentor pirate bands then we'd get leverage to levy a defense tax on them. Risks having other SSL nations complain about us though.
>>1638228Not attached to the vote.
>>1638362honestly, if a duel does go through, I say it be fisticuffs only. No poisoned blades or tricks from her.
I still think Eisentor is a stupid name.
>>1638504I'm not much a fan either, but people are gonna call it the belt anyway so I don't care much. I'm sure the Jovians and Martians have fancy names but everyone just calls them by their location, won't be different for us.
>>1638474I say we follow the tenets of Bushido. So we can shout her formal warning while kicking down her door before killing her.
>>1638784Nah we got to give her a knife, and then beat her to death because she was coming right at us with a knife.
>>1638803I can't help but laugh at the thought that when it finally happens... We job so hard we die. Work all this buildup, I can't help but believe that will happen.
>>1638803Yeah... no. No giving her a knife. No being fair or trying to make a spectacle of it.
>>1638835Remember, name and trip fags are hated for reasons. For all his good points, he's still and edgelord autistic faggot.
As far as demands go, I'm not as rabid as some other posters *cough thunderbird cough* But I think a duel with Bethany Cabot is definitely something to push for. Assuming we can't just maneuver her into one as a part of these negotiations anyways. It'll be glorious.something I'm not seeing many people address is how exactly us joining the SSL is going to work as far as war against Avalon? Are we going to be committed to war but retain our own Sovereignty?Also is there an Aina Expy hiding somewhere? I'd honestly expert her to be an Avalonian officer somewhere. Just wondering.
>>1638893The issue is that while dueling her will bring closer, it opens up complications or either Cabot or Fairchild doing something stupid. We aren't some saturday morning cartoon villain. When we got her by the throat, we crush her in a instant. Otherwise she may pull a Rashad.
>>1638928Sure, except our enemies doing something stupid seems like exactly the sort of thing that would put Fairchild off balance. She's at her best when she's coldly plotting revenge, Rage makes her less coherent as we've seen in the story so far.Either way I love this quest, it's been one helluva ride so far. Also, not looking forward to having to ever fight the Squilla if we can help it.
>>1638946The thing with Fairchild class stupid is that her stupidity tends to hurt a lot of people. Her stupidity got colonies destroyed, good generals killed, and always tends to have high casualties.Her being 'smart' is easy enough. Smart can be counted like we have been doing. But she is going to self-destruct and I do not want anyone in the blast radius.
>>1638835It's a Bill Hick joke about the movie Shane.
>>1638958Nah I think she's going to be "invited" to Earth and disappeared.> Fighting what we think are Cabot engrams in the future from the SSL> They're actually Fairchild remote piloting from Earth using their advanced technology like in Avatar but she can't leave the tube. Only always trapped in unfeeling mechs. Hating us and getting a slaught and endorphin cocktail for every kill.
>>1639231Eh, I'd say Fairchild is on her way out. There are bigger pink haired bitches to fry. Like the crazy priestess or Lysa if she tries something.
>>1639245Yeah Fairchild is on her way out, but Jove wants to do it quiet. Us letting Fairchild go quietly is probably the price for us dueling Cabot.And I do think we should push to have custody of their captured Paladin as well. She's a woman, we're Roarke, and we can corroborate any information from her with Lorie to ensure accuracy.
>>1639386Asking for the paladin they captured is a bit much.
>>1639386>And I do think we should push to have custody of their captured Paladin as well.Thats too much I believe. Also once fairchild is out of the picture, she should be treated properly and not tortured out of hand.Speaking of which while we're all here, we might be able to formulate a general agreement between the two sides as to the proper treatment of captured soldiers.
>>1639386Jove won't have any say over the matter if Fairchild wishes it. She has been burning every bridge she has and the last thread of sanity she has is Cabot. I do not expect her to play along and go quietly, I expect her to try one last assault on us with nothing to lose.
>>1639401>>1639395>>1639520Never hurts to ask. If anything it gives them something to say No to.Of course, they can't expect us to share info and such with them if they hold back from us. If that's the case, knowing the kind of treatment Avalonian prisoners would face in Jovian custody, we wouldn't be able to extradite any of them to Jovian intelligence services.At this point they've gotten everything they could reasonably be expected to from her. There's no reason to keep her really.
>>1639620We also have no reason to keep her either. They arent going to give us a paladin when half the reason for them coming here was to ransom a paladin. Also they could still always just publicly execute her.
>>1639620And no reason to ask for her. Chances are there might be some cooperation to find out what she's thinking with Lori's help, but that is a demand we have no claim on. Relinquishment of colonies might be reasonable.. alongside making sure those colonies are functional, but she is not going to be something we should ask for.Honestly, being reasonable with our demands will enrage Fairchild even more.
>>1639728Back-handed way of maintaining good ties with Avalon. Getting info from someone higher up than Lorie. Wedding present to Lorie. Savin a woman in distress. Establishing our ability to get treatment from the SSL as an equal.Plenty of reasons.
>>1639743Plenty of bad reasons.
>>1639743Unneeded considering Marrying Lori and not shooting surrending troops seem to do more, cryptic crazy lady doesn't say anything and IS a member of the Green Lady camp, there are better presents for Lorie, saving crazy women is never a good idea, and this is not an equal deal because we did not fight her, are not offering anything of value, and it is not of mutual understanding.Those reasons do not work.
>>1639760> saving crazy women is never a good idea,Sir. Every one of our wives proves that argument incorrect.> this is not an equal deal because we did not fight her, are not offering anything of value, and it is not of mutual understanding.We're establishing our position as the most appropriate body to handle Avalonian captives and our skill at turning enemies into allies.She is also Lories teacher and mentor if I recall. Would you say the same about the old man on the colony who taught us martial arts?
>>1639769We have so little claim to her that its not even funny. The only way they would be less likely to give her to us is if we announced we were joining avalon.
>>1639776They have no use for her anymore except as a political chip. Jove can't be seen dealing with Avalon. We can work as an intermediary, and also receive SSL prisoners from Avalonian forces to hold until the end of the war.We could even use them as a workforce in restricted areas where they wouldn't have the opportunity for sabotage/spying.
>>1639852They didnt get anything out of her and as such have no reason to stop interrogating her. They could also keep her to study her link with her robot. Or they could keep her to trade for a possible future jovian captive. Plus they could always just execute her for siding with a species that almost wiped out mankind. Meanwhile they have not a single good reason to give her to us.
>>1639872You're a very negative person. If we ended up unable to get anything out of her we could always give her back. But their torture program hasn't been working well at all.Meanwhile we have the Starwind protocol.
>>1639892I'm not even being negative, this is just a silly demand. There is no upside for them to go through with it and little upside for us if we did pull it off.
>>1639892They aren't going to give us a goddamn Paladin, especially one that they captured themselves, and has killed hundreds, perhaps thousands of their soldiers just on the very, -very- slim chance that we may be able to seduce and fuck the fanaticism out of her.please stop being retarded
>>1639892You seem very hooked on the idea of somehow convincing Fairchild or the jovian government to hand over a captured Paladin for . . .what exactly?Maria's crazy, and even if we could somehow deprogram her from her fanatical loyalty there's the trauma she suffered at the hands of the bio-armour on top of that. Why would Jupiter give up a valuable prisoner to us? Even if all they do is vivisect her they'll still see it as some gain, and quite frankly she probably deserves it.
>>1639907> SlimI mean. It worked on Clemmy. And we'll probably get info out of her when she tries to convince us of her fanaticism being correct anyways. Dialogue is when people let things slip "giving them enough rope to hang themselves" is the phrase.
>>1639922Oh. There's no hope of convincing Fairchild. I just want to rub it in that the Jovian government is having us do what she couldn't with yet another thing. Success salts her wounds the most.Also Lorie would appreciate it.And we could get some good info out of her about Mandrakes and such, probably while she's extolling their superiority.Honestly all I want is to get her to arrogantly lecture us.
>>1639923Clemmy was just a lonely girl who clung to anyone who treats her like a human.Maria is a goddamn fanatic to a brainwashing supervegetable.they are not the same thing
>>1639923Clemmy is a different sort of situation than Maria. There is 'breaking someone until they like it' and then there is 'someone willing breaking themselves.'. Clemmy was being 'trained' by Fairchild, but it wasn't total and it wasn't fanatical. They were besties, but at that point it was best friends.Maria worships the Green Lady even after the shit on Qu'lir, saying it was all a part of her plan. The same event that got her loyalist knight to freak out and not worship the green lady. She is a fanatic. Those are the sort of people you don't want to deal with.I place her in the same boat as Cabot, not Clemmy.
>>1639929And if we found Gunbuster I'm sure it'd be great for us too. What your overlooking is that they won't give her to us. It doesn't matter how great it would be if the did when we can't get it.
>>1639945We'll never know if we don't ask.It just gives them something to say no to at worst so they can accept more of our other demands without losing face.We don't have to demand it even. Just offer to interrogate/hold her for them or facilitate a prisoner transfer. Ransom IS one of our skills. Heck we even have the Queen of Ransoms with us.Hey, if Wong says it would never happen I'll drop it in an instant.
>>1639974>>1639945Note also that if Fairchild flips out about it in front of the Avalonian then it makes the UJCIDF look bad. She's even the one who brought up the issue of their other prisoner and what sort of treatment Avalonians can expect.Can't claim it's faked footage either if say the Colonies that are under tenuous SSL rule get wind of it. Remember, a big part of the problem is that Avalon is getting support from other colonies who view the SSL as an invader and oppressor and Avalon as just another colony so that's something they want to avoid. Totally different universe out there with gene modded populations that don't have the same reference frame as the Sol System population.Remember when we were surprised to learn there even was a war happening?
>>1639974No, at worse it sours the mood and makes it so we will need to compromise on other aspects because we look too damn greedy. This isn't a ransom, this is a negotiation on something completely different and making this demand is as bad as going 'give me all the colonies'.This is the sort of thing that happens after, with longer negotiations and likely not in the way you think. There is no plus in this and will more likely make Bad Will than anything else.Really, if you want something for them to go 'no' at, saying 'can I punch Fairchild?' when she starts to blow her gasket.
>>1639984Fairchild has the political power and position of a sack of potatoes in this situation. She is likely on her way to being court marshaled for her various crimes and going 'yeah, you aren't in charge of this and will be dealt with' will likely bolster relations instead of lessen.As for information getting out? Unlikely. That runs into the whole media issue that makes us doing it so hard. Remember, Fairchild has no clout here. This is, among other things, a trap for her.
>>1639985Did you miss where I said we could offer instead of demand? Since Fairchild brought up the issue of prisoners *anyways* we can get her on record shooting herself in the foot by running her mouth.
>>1639999> We don't have to demand it even. Just offer to interrogate/hold her for them or facilitate a prisoner transfer. Ransom IS one of our skills. Heck we even have the Queen of Ransoms with us.Since you missed it.
>>1638835How many people do you think would willingly agree to box Roarke Starwind, the notorious fistfighter, especially women who are shorter and lighter than him? I'm not going to be shy about telling you there is no way in hell anyone would ever, ever agree to a fight that stupid. There's a difference between a duel and an execution.>>1638892Jesus, what are you so mad at him for? Thunderbird's been around for a good, long time with no problems. Stop dogging his nuts. I can't stand people who have a problem with someone else and act it out by replying to other people's posts insulting them in a roundabout way.
>>1639386I'd also like to point out that you have zero way to make this happen. "Yeah uh just give us the other Paladin we're so good at taking care of them btw I'm offering you nothing" is as stupid as thinking you'll just get to duel Cabot with BOTH of you barehanded.
>>1640100In duels doesn't the person who is challenged decide the terms?
>>1640100I mean namefags getting preferential treatment is kind of why people were against identities on 4chan.Its true you don't give him any. But I wouldn't be able to call him a namefag if he didn't do it, and being one is kind of the act of being autistic.Like if you want me to chill on name calling that's understandable but I don't get why pointing out his namefagging would come off as "roundabout". If anything I thought it was directly insulting.
>>1640106>>1640108We could always duel in mechs. Mars could provide and inspect them as a neutral 3rd party.And it's still a good time to work out what exactly to do with prisoners of war.
>>1640120Its not our decision what we fight in, its Cabot's since she's the one being challenged. And yea sure their going to listen to us about what to do with prisoners. We have nowhere near enough clout to demand they treat the enemy a certain way.
>>1640128More like put them on the spot for it by asking since they're pretending Fairchild still is their representative.But how often are we going to have this level of government representation at a peaceful meeting like this? It puts Avalon on the spot too since they probably can't really agree to anything without the Green Lady approving, so either the Duke has to admit that or they can get accused of reneging on their word later.Mars and us are the only ones who can make agreements in good faith here.
>>1640128It would be interesting to see what Cabot would choose for the duel that's for sure. We could just offer Mechs as an option if she tries to refuse it based on the reasons Wong gave.
>>1640114Don't be obtuse and don't backpedal. If you have a problem with someone say it to them directly. Despite how inconvenient his murderboner is he's not alone in acting a bit spergish here, is he?>>1640145For example, why would Avalon's input have anything to do with you and Cabot fighting?
>>1640150I was talking about the issue of a prisoner exchange putting them on the spot. Does Avalon take prisoners? Do they spore them? Can the Duke make agreements without the Green Lady's approval? If no agreements are valid without her direct involvement than that's a serious concern for anyone who does try to negotiate with them.
>>1640149Roarke doesn't want it to be in mechs, he's said plenty of times he wants to kill her with his own hands.
>>1640158Considering we can almost easily get what we want, you are wrong.
>>1640163How thoug? Wong said a duel hand to hand was out. I can't think of what wouldn't look just as bad unless we gave her a gun, and the dice are a harsh mistress.
>>1640175Roarke is man who cares little about his personal safety, likes to fight stronger foes, and is impulsive and emotionally driven. We've seen him exhibit these traits multiple times and they are driving forces behind his decision making and motivation. He would want to fight Cabot at her best and do it with his own hands no matter how stupid of an idea it is because that's just who Roarke Starwind is. Sure its not "playing" the "game" the right way, but its playing true to the character which is the whole point of questing. Roarke invaded Mars to beat the shit out a dude with a MUCH stronger machine just for fucking with a girl he likes mind. Cabot has killed multiple of our friends, our captain who we saw as a second father, and our brother.
>>1640196Roarke is also a man disciplined enough to lead, and care for, at first a crew and now a fledgling nation. To grit his teeth and work even with Fairchild at times when forced to such as when he crashed Rashads wedding. A man who places his goals and the safety of others above his own personal desires.Roarke wants to kill Cabot with his bare hands,but if the price is war with Jove or losing the support of Mars, and failing his responsibility to the people of the Belt then I see him being not satisfied but willing to accept just killing her. Maybe crushing her in her cockpit like how his old Captain died. He didn't crash Mars for selfish reasons alone.Besides he's grown a lot over the quest.
>>1640196So if you have a plan for how Roarke can kill Cabot with his bare hands without ruining everything I'm open to it. I mean I proposed we follow Bushido rules and inform her of the duel by kicking down her door but apparently we're trying to do it in a politically palatable procedure.
>>1640209>A man who places his goals and the safety of others above his own personal desires.Like when?>To grit his teeth and work even with Fairchild at times when forced to such as when he crashed Rashads wedding.And how about all the other times we told her to go fuck herself even though it would have been better for us to just be polite and side with her. That time with Rasheed was the only time we ever worked with her where she didn't threaten to kill our loved ones if we didn't.>He didn't crash Mars for selfish reasons alone.He completely did it was 100% for Fatima.>>1640213>I demand as part of me joining I get to duel Cabot for revenge for my friends and family she killed.>Okay no problem.>Stare at her since we know she's here and tell her to pick the day and time she's going to die.Like that.
>>1640216You yourself said she gets to pick the weapons used. Wong said H2H was out. Not sure how you see that plan working out.
>>1640217There's a magical thing called weapons that people use to fight.
>>1640220Like when dad play fights with me like he does mom?
>>1640220Mechs are the weapon of choice in the far future no?
>>1640223No son, thats the difference between weapon and HYPER weapon
>>1640224No that's just arousing
>>1640227I uh . . . .did you mean to respond to me? How did you know that I felt that way about Mechs?
>>1640229No I didn't I meant it for >>1640223
>>1640231I hear you.
>>1640231More of a booster man myself though.
>>1640217>>1640220This is going to go fine. If she chooses melee weapons, we use our gloves. Those were made to parry swords, remember? we should probably insist on bringing no poisoned weapons, and frisk her for those before the fight. She already killed one starwind that wayIf she insists on using mechs, well, them's the breaks, at least we can take it slow then and don't have to worry about her using poison or anything. I doubt she will though, considering what a damaged Knuckle Kaiser can do to a paladin (and that was before even MORE upgrades), she has to realise she stands no chance.
>>1640231What even is that?
>>1640128>tfw she asks for a pistol duelI know roarke has a gun but considering he doesnt even have a 1 in gunfighting I'm not sure he could hit something that actually moves.
What else do we want in the negotiations besides the duel?
>>1640601>>1638335>>1640581Don't you usually stand still for those?
>>1640581We show up in bulletproof armour (which is very common in the setting), ignore our gun and break her like a twig.Still, i doubt she will. Because of all the bulletproof armour around, fighting with (armour piercing) swords is once again very popular, and on Jupiter fencing is just one of those things that civillised members of society are expected to know, with most Jovian officers we met being at least skilled swordsmen (and women). Even Ceasar had to drag his ass out of his room to practice it. So swordfighting is probably the standard form of duelling for them.
>>1640601Rights to negotiate independently with the extra-solar colonies?
>>1640617That's not really a demand. If we join, it's as a recognised sovereign nation, so obviously we can have independent diplomatic channels.
>>1640607Depends on if you have to turn around or not. Still have to do the quick draw if you dont.>>1640614>not using AP bullets
>>1640445I dunno. It's what Red's mech is based off of. Maybe ask Wong the next time he shows up.
>>1640317Honestly, I expect her to use the Slayer because she likely thinks we haven't figured out her trick. That we can't find where the remote system is. So we 'kill' her, she lays low, and then she comes back under some new guise.Except we know her tricks and honestly, at this point the Kaiser's hands are practically ours to begin with.
>>1640601>Duel Man, I don't get that shit. Why not jst have her surrender to us be part of the negotiation? "Due to her crimes throughout the belt and even here on this very station, Bethany Cabbot is to be put to death. There's no escaping this. She will not leave this station alive. I'm allowing you to save face by sanctioning the execution."
I've asked before but I don't think I'll ever gotten a straight answer.Is the Kaiser built from the remnants of one of the Orange Pekoe Mechs?
Setting Question: The Bluegill has been around for a long time. Has any effort been made to ohase in a new line mech? I don't mean like the Pumpkinseed or the Palomino. I mean a straight up replacement for the Bluegill.
>>1640772Nah. The Thoroughbred X was an Orange Pekoe mech. The Knuckle Kaiser was built on the remains of a Thoroughbred MP, an attempt to mass produce the ridonkulously strong X. Now adays, though, it's really just... not? Karen has done so much customizing and modifying and upgrading that if you put the Kaiser's frame and a Thoroughbred MP frame next to eachother, you'd not be able to easily recognize that they had anything to do with eachother. Now, there IS a running theory that Miles' mech is the OG Thoroughbred X.
>>1640779I mean, it seems like thats what they are doing with the pumpkinseed 2's.
>>1640779>Straight replacement for the BluegillPumpkinseed II, at your service. The Pumpkinseed was intended for it, but failed, so Irena made the II upgrade, and it's perfect.
>>1640786The PS2s are officer Mechs, not exactly something that's assigned to the rank and file. The Bluegill still sees a lot of use in the UJCIDF and I was wondering if any 120CP and Under mechs had been cooked up to try and replace it.
>>1640782No, X was Floyd Beck's personal machine. The Orange Pekoe team all had MP's.
>>1640794They are showing up more and more though.
>>1640779Sort of what they were trying with the Pumpkinseed. It was as maneuverable as the bluegill with a stronger body, it just fell short. The Deuce would be a proper improvement all round though.>>1640794Pumpkin Seed deuces are under 120 cp normally. When you give them more powerful weapons like the amos custom, they get more expensive. The issue is like many machines is getting them out in time. That is always a problem in wars. Even if they are cranking out nothing but them, it will take months, if not years to fully outfit the army.
>>1640795I thought Orange Pekoe was Beck, Caeser's dad, and the token chick. >>1640794The IIs are CURRENTLY officer mechs, but they're in the process of rolling them out to be the normal line mech. Actually, by this point in time, they might be in the middle of said roll out, or even mostly done with it. We've been busy with other things, so I dunno if we've kept up with that.
>>1640806Orange Pekoe was the 5 child soldiers. Roarke's dad was one. IIRC the priest we went through Psyche 16 with was also one, and so was one of the Paladins before he turned traitor. I'm really not sure about that though. He might be a Chevalier.
>>1640797>>1640802>>1640806Fair points.Hmm, it doesn't look like Wong replaced its abysmal beam gun with Iskander Rifles yet.
>>1640810No, he's a Paladin. The last member of Orange Pekoe was killed by him.
>>1640811probably due to them not being Bahamut corp gear. A thing you have to remember is that the megacorps are REALLY dickish with what they produce and competing products. Even if we sell our own weapons and mechs, I don't see them handing them out.
>>1640827Well, it's also a question of straight up replacing that gun. It's horrible.
>>1640837Its also very cheap and used by bluegills as well.
>>1640843A valid point. One could pump out a lot of those cheap guns with a day's worth of production and there is already plenty of them from bluegills. Reusing resources helps take the crunch off of construction costs, which is why the upgrade from the originals to the Deuces are such a good move.
>>1640843>>1640856At least strap two of them together and link them.
You know how the original Gundam's beam rifle could fire a bunch of shots but then had to recharge before it could be used again? What's a good way of representing that?
>>1640795>>1640810Unproven, but it is very much suggested that the one we found in that asteroid field belonged to the Heero yui of the team
>>1640992Beam weapon with ammunition maybe?
>>1641002That's what I was thinking but also adding the Rechargeable modifier from Energy Melee Weapons.Have it restore two shots an action? For each additional .05 you add to the cost it restores 1 more shot?
>>1640782The Flowerhorn is also a Thoroughbred MP frame.
>>1641022Isn't it just giving shots without being clip-fed?
>>1640767I would 100% support this over a duel.People have a murderboner draining the blood from their heads over it though.We gotta ask ourselves. Are we a nation of law now, or just a pirate king temporarily holding it together?
>>1641172Definitely the latter.
>>1641049Yes, but it also needs to recharge over time.
>>1640767I like this way better, to be honest. What's the point of the duel?
>>1641193To be fair roarke has settled pretty much every major problem through dueling and since shes going to end up dead anyway we might as well make a fight of it.
>>1641189Oh, you want what the Gundam games usually do, since the original Gundam's beam rifle had to be recharged back at White Base...well, there's nothing mechanics-wise that's like that. You would have to go with allowing the Rechargable modifier on beam weaponry.
>>1641296>original Gundam's beam rifle had to be recharged back at White BaseI do not remember that at all. Weird.It's a moot point then.
>>1641310Yeah. Ecaps weren't really a thing yet, so only a starships generator was powerful enough to charge it.
>>1640782Actually, my roommate and I have a theory that the Kaiser might be built on Beck's original machine, while Keith's was built on, essentially, a fake remake put together to help sell the story that Beck died properly in combat. Remember we found it drifting, cored through the cockpit in some long-ago fight in a group of asteroids? And do you remember that the REAL story of how Beck died was being cored through the cockpit by his friends at a hush-hush meeting in a group of asteroids?
>>1640767The biggest problem with that is that you joining the SSL is convenient but not necessarily crucial for the larger military powers on either side. Imagine if some smaller country demanded an American be returned so they could explicitly be put to death. Trump would tell them to fuck right off immediately, it's a matter of face. You are not the military equal of Jupiter and do not have sufficient leverage to make demands of that caliber. A duel, however...can go either way.
>>1641518What if THEY sentence her to death? I mean I assume they kill people all the time if they're Space America.But yeah 'Murica doesn't extradite anyone.
>>1641518Responding to my own post to clarify on this. The biggest problem I've seen in these negotiations is that some of you are being unrealistically arrogant in what you can do here. Announcing you're an independent country now is putting your balls on the table, it's cocky already, although you have Martian support for it. Agreeing to join the SSL in exchange for some concessions? That's good for them, it's beneficial to have the Belt on friendly terms...but you don't have anything they want badly enough to make crazy demands. You're not holding the Belt hostage, cause enough trouble and Fairchild (or some other General) might respond with a fleet. Most of what you've asked for so far is pretty reasonable...but there are a few that are incredibly unrealistic and I've pointed those out ahead of time to avoid the "but what about my suggestion!?" later.
>>1641566Just out of curiosity - what do the other captains / colonies in the Belt want anyways? Anything they want us to ask for?
>>1641513The X was custom built for use by Beck. Whose preferred method of combat was beamspam. It also had a biocore. Nothing about the Kaiser when it was found had anything that indicated either.
So anons what demands do we consider non negotiable and which are we willing to give up in the negotiation? Personally I agree with >>1638362
One last vote, you have 40 minutes.>[Eisentor]>[Phaeton]
>>1641650>>[Phaeton]Makes more sense for Roarke to chose a Greek Myth instead of a random German word.
>>1641627Reasonable. For things like Cabot it's a case of wait and see. I stick by pinning her as the first mate or member of the belt to help with justice since to my eyes, it's the same sort of situation that one Captain had.. which Fairchild set precedent over. Traitor turn coated, got captured, and for his deeds and cost lives got punished for it. In this sort of situation it may indeed be asking for much though. Either case, we shall see. Hopefully the evidence and information our team has done will help there.
Rolled 2 (1d2)>>1641650Phaeton sounds a tiny bit better but it also doesn't sound like a country's name, so I'm just gonna roll a d2.
>>1641650>>[Eisentor]Another vote? Feels a bit odd to do it again since it was a land slide last time.
>>1641660I don't think we actually DID vote on it, we voted on joining the SSL.
>>1641684>>1636694Right here, it was 3 to 1 and it has been talked about constantly.
>>1641686And now a bunch of people who said nothing during the entire thing or posted just a vote are saying the same thing and it's making me wonder if someone is spamming the vote since they are a minute a part.
>>1641707Personally I would have preferred Bacchanalia since we have so many Maenads. Maybe we can have an all-female cruiser named that lalatter on.
>>1641686Has it? It looks like it was 2 Eisentor, 1 Phaeton, 1 neutral. If it was talked about with further votes, why didn't they respond to the post where they were asked to vote?
>>1641725Just felt off. It was agreed upon on several voting cycles, the main person against was Thunderbird, then all of a sudden a bunch of 1s pop up saying the same thing. It's really suspicious.
Personally I think all the names are a bit silly. Should just call it the belt or united belt alliance or something along those lines.
>>1641656You got to pin Cabot down and deal with her quickly. She and Fairchild are experts at weasling out of bad situations.
>>1641747Trust me I really don't care that much about it, I prefer Phaeton but Eisentor is fine too and its not really that important.
>>1641744We also talked about it all the way back from when we first made that speech when we got back from Psyche. It had been through several cycles, and aside from now, it had been mostly Eisentor. It just feels.. off and naming the thing something roman like the Jovians makes me feel like we are hangers onto their coat tails.>>1641763I know, it just feels like something we had talked about so many times to just have a sudden change now. Also, moment I called them out the 1s stopped and not a single one replied or countered.>>1641757I agree with you there. I am all for just crushing their head in mech or on foot without giving them a chance the moment we can. I do not want them to try more shit, but if we don't do it right, the jovians get in our way.
Also surprised no one ever suggested Tortuga.
>>1641775I think someone is samefagging it too, best to just leave it up to what Wong thinks is better at this point so we can move on.
>>1641763I'm pretty much just gonna call it the belt myself.>>1641775Dude I might shitpost in between votes a lot, but don't be a sore loser about one.What matters is having fun, not dragging everything down with repeated votes and revotes etc.
>>1641781...How in the hell did that never occur to any of us? I mean, aside from the in-universe reason of nobody probably knowing what that is.
>>1641786If they got anime someone probably has a copy of pirates of the caribbean floating around.
>>1641781Eh, Roarke and Co are pirates, but they've never really been pirate themed. Plus it doesn't really makes sense to name a nation Tortuga. It would be much better as a new name for Psyche 16.
>>1641783We could just discount single post ip votes.
>>1641650>EisentorDon't you think we are having a lot of votes on this, especially with every other discussion coming up with Eisentor?
>>1641786I'm a little shocked we didn't call the concert on Auditorium the Rose Bowl.
>>1641798> Discussion. Fuck your discussion. Only votes count. Looking at the single post IDs it IS suspicious though.
>>1641803I just wish it had been anything other than Space Jam.
>>1641798>>1641810Note that's only 3 votes though.
>>1641817Please don't do this again.
>>1641812>Thinking Roarke doesn't have a Space jam VHS somewhere in his room
> Phaeton from multi-post ID>>1641655>>1641659>>1641670>>1641708>>1641710> Eisentor >>1641660>>1641798I know I miss a lot of votes but that's how the image board rolls.
>>1641832Man, I asked nicely. Just let Wong deal with it. Spamming posts isn't going to do anything good.
>>1641817The one 2 poster was another vote only one and it was around the same time frame as the sudden deluge.
>>1641819>>1641810What should I not do again? Complain about something than immediately do it too? That's called freedom motherfucker. Get soooooome!
>>1641845Some people don't have all day to shit post. Me, I'm on vacation in the mountains. > The Summer is Real.
>>1641866Ah, is that brazil?
>>1641907No, there's infrastructure.
>>1641910That's the midwest US out too then...
>>1641907>>1641910It's my summer home in the Rockies. Fucking hot as balls out though so I'm waiting for it to cool off again. Spent the day biking down to the vinyard and it got too hot to go out on the lake.
This should not have been as difficult as it was. Phaeton is a pretty recent suggestion that got popular whenever it was brought up, and the vote looks to be in its favor whether or not there was samefagging. Eisentor might see use later somehow, but Phaeton is also appropriate for the naming scheme of Solar nations (even Mars is a Roman name).Phaeton wins, buckle up.
>>1641650I'm fine with either, personally.
Here comes the real battle anons, SHOW ME YOUR WAR FACE
“Before I begin, I have some facts to state. Some are self-evident. First, I am the master of the Belt. No other pirate group remains that can challenge me in terms of territory or military might, especially not any that would willingly align with the Solar System League. Secondly, the Belt must be secured, by whoever wishes to win this war. With all due respect to the Avalonian contingent, I cannot support a Green Man, and therefore must align myself with Jupiter and Mars. Not just out of my own personal morals, but for the sake of protecting my people.” You take a sip of water before you continue.You see a sickening expression of triumph on Fairchild's face which crumples into shock and dismay at your next words.“Thirdly, for all intents and purposes, we are our own country, answering to no law but our own and no leaders but those we appoint, and this day I am formally declaring that the Iron Kestrels Pirate Fleet is now the independent nation of Phaeton. No longer will we suffer our colonies to be abused or neglected. However, this leads to the fourth point, this is a good thing for both Mars and Jupiter. Your resources, including those you need on the frontlines of your war, have been stretched thin trying to police the asteroid belt to little effect. I am taking a burden off your shoulders.”“And what makes YOU think you can succeed where we have allegedly not?” Fairchild snaps.“Allegedly?” Your voice is dangerous, “The presence of the Green Skulls on Suleiman 1 at all proves my allegations to be, as I said before, unequivocal facts. Either you failed, or it was intentional and you wanted those atrocities to occur. Which is it?” You pause half a heartbeat, watching her draw in breath for an angry rebuttal, and then continue before she can speak, cutting her off neatly, “Regardless, my answer is simple. We know the Belt better than anyone. We know its boltholes and hideaways. We know its forgotten colonies and lost tribes. We may not know or control every single one of them, yet, but our influence grows by the very day. We have fewer distractions in this regard than your nations do, and more trust. Without the belt secured, more groups like the Green Skulls can and will pop up, and that I cannot tolerate.”Fairchild leaps to her feet, teeth bared and palms flat on the table, “You cheeky upstart! You can declare whatever you like, it doesn't matter. None of the established League members support you, and so your claims are irrelevant. You are a pirate, that is all you are. A criminal who has proven time and time again to be unreliable and capricious.”[Continued]
>>1641991>None of the established League members support youOh what you got coming
>>1641991I am glad I brought snacks.
>>1641991Oh god the schadenfreude. Who gets to pop that bubble? Who's the lucky fucker?
>>1641991> A criminal who has proven time and time again to be unreliable and capricious.>TFW
>>1641991Fuck yeah, made it in time! This is gonna be good.
>>1641991Be right back, gonna get some coffee so I can properly enjoy this.
>>1641991Man i've been looking forward to this. The only part that will be better is the first formal occasion where she has to treat us as an allied head of state - a superior, in many respects. Let's see if we can squeeze a few "your Highness"es out of her.
>>1642007> The real negotiations took a whole month and three deaths to determine who got to tell her.
>>1642020Make her kiss our ring for forgiveness if she doesn't.
>>1642022>Approximately 100 wooden desks were also lost in the endeavor.
>>1641991I do not have enough popcorn gifs.
>>1642027> Prepared for the endeavor as distraction for her afterwards.Time spent desk smashing is time not spent weaseling.
“Says the obvious beacon of trustworthiness.” Mumbles Red Siren, loudly.“...Ahem.” Asim clears his throat, “Mars will support the ascension of the Iron Kestrels to independent nation status. Congratulations...I'm sorry, what was your new title?”“I've been calling him Pirate King. I know I'm the odd one out in the room, but it does seem apt. Pirate King?” The Duke grins, “Avalon will also support the ascension of the Iron Kestrels to independent nation status, for what it's worth.”“Pirate King!” Red Siren crows, with a fistpump, “Which makes me officially a PIRATE QUEEN!”“Yes, that's...yeah, let's do that.” You can't say no to that smile. “Additionally, I raise my First Mate, Miles Longshadow, to the position of National Secretariat and my Bosun Richard Thorslund to the position of Fleet Commissar. I will need to think more before deciding how to promote my Second Mate.“This is preposterous!” General Fairchild's face twists with distaste, “What right do you have to speak for Mars in a manner like this? Are you hoping to curry influence for the political storm brewing on Mars, to advance your position? Does the Caliph even know about this!?”Asim simply smiles, “Yes, he does. It was his own idea. In fact, I have documents bearing his seal empowering me to offer all support possible to the Pirate King Starwind in this endeavor.”Duke Eustace checks the chronometer on a shiny, new PC, and smiles, standing up, “Well then, our part in this is concluded. Good luck, Starwind, wherever fate takes you, I must get back to my ship. Urgent business...ta!” He waves, he and his knights departing the room. “With that said, the Caliph has also empowered me to make an additional offer...” Asim clears his throat, “The Holy Caliphate of Mars formally extends its hand in friendship to Phaeton, relinquishing its government-owned colonies in the Belt barring a list of essential bases to be given to the Pirate King promptly and inviting him in return to join the Solar System League as a junior partner.”[Continued]
>>1642091Might need to change the name of that picture now Wong.
>>1642091Try not to die, duke. You're too good for avalon.
>>1642091>relinquishing its government-owned colonies in the Belt barring a list of essential bases to be given to the Pirate King promptlyWhen we are done her we should let miles and Fatima check out how many colonies that actually gives us. Not that it matters much, gift horse and all that, but that could be anything from a shitton of full colonies to a single tiny oupost hanging off a big rock.
>>1642091Oh man, double clothesline from both Avalon and Mars on the opener. How will she recover from that?
>>1642091>>1642114I still like the Duke a lot. I know he's on the opposite side, and his fucking up Naomi kinda sours my opinion, but... I dunno. I still dig the dude. >>1642117Who next?! Luxol? Stern? Someone on 'her' team needs to stomp her down!
>>1642122There's always one.
>>1642116Doesn't matter, the sheer insult it throws into Fairchild's face alone makes it about as worthwhile as a pile of gold and a room full of brown skinned well trained already paid hookers.
>>1642123So many likeable people on all the sides. Pity not all will survive this war.
>>1642133It it what it is, all we can do is make sure its none of our men and just theirs.
>>1642128Sorry, my window didn't update in time.
>>1642133Do what can be reasonable, take prisoners when we can, and hope we explode the asshole leading good people to their deaths.
>>1642123He's had a series of difficult orders.
>>1642163We're officially at war now and will be fighting against people who are 100% trying to kill us, we don't have the luxury of being able to "save" the enemy. Just give them a quick death and be done with it. You forget these are people glad to suicide bomb for their "god".
>>1642168It DOES help that he doesn't approve of any of this shit. >>1642173I just have to say, Thunder, your murder boner is... kinda just creepy sometimes. Like, legit off-putting. Usually you're a decent and helpful enough dude that I can ignore it, but just straight jumping to 'fuck trying to save people, just kill them and move on' sorta worries me. Are you ok?
>>1642186I'm perfectly fine, I'm just being honest. You do realize the real aspects of war right? Its brutal and dirty and no one gets out clean no matter how much they try. Disabling enemy mechs takes much more time than just killing them quickly. Our priority is our own troops and our nation not the enemy we're fighting. Killing your enemies in war is just what happens, all you can do is make sure its as quick and painless as possible.
>>1642186He's not wrong.
>>1642173All of that is true, there is no point in taking unnecesary risks to save the enemy, especially when those enemies are fanatics.But still,, we should not go too far the other way. We are not Fairchild, for whom the ends justify the means.
>>1642186To be fair you cant have a war without killing people, and if people are being killed you might as well make sure its not your people.
>>1642197It's war... in a game. Where we're a literal superhuman pilot who can tear through entire armies without breaking a sweat. I'm pretty sure when you're on our level, going for the incap instead of the kill isn't really any more difficult.
>>1642217and while we're trying to be nice to the enemy soldiers, they're busy killing ours.this is not gundam, and we are not Kira Yamato.
>>1642217For roarke maybe. Not for our regular guys.
>>1642211Aye. Don't go out of our way to save them but we still offer them surrender if possible.
>>1642211I never said firebomb an orphanage or kill a family in front of a guy to break his spirit. Its just anons aren't being reasonable at all with this >We gots to save everyone no killing allowed there people too.War is what war is. We're fighting fanatics and want to support killing their God. Avalon will never like us and guess what that's fine. Roarke isn't the person to care what others think of him as long as his people are safe.>>1642217>In a gameGreat to know that Roarke knows that and its someone that impacts his decision making.
>>1642197Except unless we roll a cockpit hit any pilot can safely eject from their machine since they have 10 Agility. There is also the now real chance of surrendering from some of them. Are you saying we should shoot them?
>>1642233If they don't surrender yes, that's the way war works.
>>1642229>>1642163>Do what can be reasonable, take prisoners when we canI think you're both having trouble understanding what the other is saying.
>>1642225Even in gundam the vast majority of people shoot to kill.>>1642233I dont know man, remember when we fought that bunch of knights before? Only one of them ejected. The rest either couldnt or didnt want to.
>>1642240Exactly I can count the number of prisoners both sides took in 0079 on my hands.
>>1642235No, that's the way war crimes work.
>>1642240Didn't want to if I recall. Honor code and all that. That may change though consider Eustace. If he is able to get it into the heads of the saner knights to surrender when possible, we accept their surrender. Am I saying never kill? No. I am saying we should not go out of our way to kill someone. If they surrender or eject, we take them as prisoner.
>>1642242That can't be right. POW camps existed both for Zeon and EFSF.
>>1642249Not that I agree with killing ejected pilots but this universe has a much looser definition of what constitutes as a war crime.
>>1642249>Shooting an enemy who refuses to surrender>War crimesWhat?>>1642250Where are we going to hold our prisoners? On our ship where they can revolt and potentially kill plenty of our most skilled pilots?>>1642253As in ones we see taken capture after a battle or times where a side shot to disable instead of kill.
>>1642258In the same places we held Fatima, Lori, Moe, and the various avalonians who DID surrender. Though, you were also the same person who wanted to throw orphans into the middle of Mars and let them die. You are incredibly edgy with this sort of thing.
>>1642257Shooting down an unarmed escape pod has to be a war crime. It's also exceptionally out of character for Roarke, who had almost always made a point to avoid unnecessary desths.
>>1642258You... Realize we have numerous colonies, right? And we could easily build a prison/POW camp on one, if there's not a few already?
>>1642258The anime follows the white base so you don't see much of that but considering that the Antartica Treaty specifically mentions treatments of POWs as one of its agreements means that after battles, S&R and taking prisoners did occur.
>>1642091> Duke Eustace checks the chronometer on a shiny, new PC, and smiles, standing up, You know what is a good distraction? Negotiations.We have someone tailing him right? Also making sure HE isn't distracting us from what the others might be doing?
>>1642217War has become a bit less lethal because of the whole effect of 2/3 of humanity dying. Human lives matter a bit more.
Escape pods are a bit of a weird factor in this. The key part is that they are completely harmless, and the fact that leaving them to just float there is a very dark, uncertain fate.Still, we run a warship, not a prison, I doubt the rhinehawk can hold large numbers of enemy combatants.
>>1642268That was at most like 30 guys.>>1642269You'd think so but then someone firebombs a city. Also got to take into account that plenty of avalonians would probably rather fight to the death and I wouldnt really feel that bad about obliging them. If they would rather die big might as well let them.
>>1642268Yes the prison that held solo occupants. Tell me how many pows do you think their will be a battle that will involve most of our fleet? And please explain how I'm "edgy" about these things when I try and make sure their deaths are quick and humane.>>1642272And whose going to guard those prisons and protect the colonies from them if they rebel? You think Red Siren's guards are trained to deal with a revolt. And where are we getting the time and manpower to build POW camps on these colonies? How will we get those POWS to the colonies? Fly our fleet back to our home after every single battle to drop them off?
>>1642281They could always potentially fuck up whoever pries open their pod with a sword or a gun or a grenade or something.
>>1642283No, I think the standing military or hired guards would? You're thinking like a pirate still, while we're here to make the point that we're turning into a true nation with numerous colonies and s standing army/navy under our command. We want to be treated like a proper country, we have to accept the responsibilities of a proper country.
>>1642269I've seen a lot of people die. They don't like it. They really fight it. I don't find it unusual at all that someone like Roarke would avoid killing when possible. Shits fucked up.It's a rush when you get a save though. Maybe when it's in combat you get the same rush from not dying and that let's you get through the killing.But if you're as good as Roarke and not really feeling threatened it would be excessive. I really liked how H&D had some PTSD related threads when the character did some fucked up stuff in war.
>>1642298Everyone likes switzerland and they make a point to never take any prisoners.
Oh, I almost forgot. Roarke killed the absolute fuck out of the Green Skulls, because they WERE his enemies. He's been a bit more careful to spare SSL troops just because of the potential fallout from doing so. On a battlefield, he'd likely continue killing Avalonians as he's done thus far.
>>1642298Great we totally have enough time to train up all the forces on our colonies to be at that level when we will be shipping out to war ASAP. You have to be realistic, it will take time to turn into a proper nation and for right now we have to do what we do best which is being a pirate. Hell our title is PIRATE king.
>>1642283Hire Scavvies. They deserve each other.Honestly this whole issue is becoming kind of a pain. Can we just hand wave the whole thing?
>>1642283To be fair, we have prisoners walking freely around auditorium right now but of course those are lori's men.On the other hand, the makeup and mindset of the avalonians means that those who surrender will be likely attempt to be gracious prisoners and not attempt to fight out of the camps we create.Any fleet we send will have a baggage train of attendant oilers and supply vessels. It could be a simple matter of sending one back with a load of prisoners and if we truely needed help, I'm sure we could enlist prisoner management expertise from the other solar league allies like mars.
Can you guys just stop? Roarke /literally/ just announced he's forming a nation. Shouldn't discussions like this wait until you actually have reliable information on the situation? Arguing conjecture is pointless.
>>1642308I recall we've been consistently willing to offer quarter though, even saving the mother/son pair on Psyche-16.Whereas the GS were all going to die?
>>1642308And their you go from the Qm's mouth himself. It is in character for Roarke to kill his enemies which Avalon now is. Humanly of course.>>1642311>Import discussion over mc's beliefs and protocols before a war,>This is boring just make it so we don't have to worry about it
>>1642319Out of wanting their mech more than anything. We threatened to kill him in front of her if she did anything too.
>>1642308>>1642319 has a point. We also stopped the Priest from stomping on a escape pod that had Solaire in it. We aren't nice but we aren't blood thirsty like Thunderbird. If we say surrender and they surrender, we take them. If they eject we take them. If not they die.
>>1642317What else is there to do while we wait?
>>1642330Discuss squad makeup/specific roles of tournament mechs?
>>1642329>BloodthirstyBecause I don't trust the people who worship a being that helped try to genocide humanity to keep their word to us above their word to their god? Because I care more about our people more than theirs?
>>1642322When the MCs beliefs are well established at 89 threads in? Quibbling over plans for an event that *hasn't even happened* yet and might never? Yeah you're putting the cart not just ahead of the horses but outright in the next two towns over.
>>1642300it's not about /us/ feeling threatened,it's about our /soldiers/ BEING threatened.pussy footing around trying to disable mechs is going to get more of our soldiers killed.>>1642329You're forgetting that Solaire was the ONLY survivor of his group because Roarke murdered all the others because they didn't surrender.
>>1642335Thunder, you advocated cockpit targeting when we were facing the praetorian guard.Who they are doesn't matter, you vote Kill.
You see Fairchild reach over and pinch her own arm, hard, perhaps hoping this is all a nightmare. She pinches it again, and again, her face awash with sudden horror, “Absolutely not!” Her voice is strangled, “As the ranking representative of Jupiter I forbid it! We can't trust them! Mars cannot independently approve a new addition to the League!” The denial in her voice, “You won't get away with this, Starwind.”“Your majesty.” You correct her.“What?!” She scowls.“Your. Majesty. That's the proper way to address kings. My close friends can call me Roarke, but you're not one of them, so...use the title.” You can't help smirking. “Oh, and Rosita is 'Your Highness', do be respectful old girl.” You say in as posh a dialect as possible.“You'd be expected to kiss my hand.” Rosita informs her cheerfully, “But honestly, you're pretty creepy and I'd rather you didn't.” She's as smug as a cat that's smuggled its way into an enclosure of small, flightless birds.“Do I have to?” Asim asks.“...You're my head wife's adopted uncle, I'm not going to ask for formality from you.” You grin at him, “I've thought about the Caliph's offer and made my decision. I'll join if the following conditions are met.”“No, you won't.” Insists Fairchild. You ignore her.“Firstly, access to the planetary gates. As allies, we have no reason to reave on your worlds, but need to maintain our income by doing so outside the system.”“Denied!” Snaps Fairchild.“Secondly, pursuant to the first condition, we require the right to raid unallied worlds outside the system, and the right to keep whatever we take, loot and prisoners alike. We'll need the resources to build up our war strength.” You continue ignoring her.“Absolutely not! That's the opposite of what we want!” You see a vein bulging in Fairchild's forehead.[Continued]
>>1642335You didn't use to be like this. I actually wish you had a trip so we knew it was you and not just some sociopath wearing the original Thunders skin. Is that you TrickQM?Otherwise is religion just super triggering for you? Why you gotta diss the Deus Vult.Man I never thought I would say that about someone.
>>1642352I don't vote for it out of wanting to kill or enjoying its just much faster to take out multiple enemies that way and we we're on a time table. I admitted I was wrong in the situation too.>>1642357Religion is fine by me, just not the shit ones that think its fine to kill me and go against the values I hold.
>>1642335And yet Mars has been aiding us and we have managed to incorporate Avalonian forces and those who preached them into our forces. We have also had plenty of examples of surrendering troops being taken in by Jove WITHOUT torture. This is from Fairchild no less.You are assuming that any combatant we face will be a rabid believer that must be purged and thus must be killed. If what Wong said is true, that is a way to make sure they shoot to kill OUR men too.Manpower is a valuable resource and we will not waste it because you like bloody spectacles. And again, that does not mean going out of our way to disable, but to take the ejected and surrendering.
>>1642369>Thinking our enemies won't shoot to killThis is a war to invade their home and kill their god and you think they won't shoot to kill?
You couldn't care less, “To ensure our rights are untrammeled, our units will be commanded by our leaders rather than placed under Jovian or Martian commanders. I understand that Lunar levies have been placed under Jovian control, and wish to avoid this due to existing ill-will between certain Captains and certain members of the UJCIDF. Similarly, those same Captains are unfamiliar with Martian commanders and customs, it's for the best if the people of Phaeton are commanded by their own.” You indicate General Fairchild for emphasis to the other commanders. You swear you see Colonel Stern crack a small smile, “We'll work with you, but not for you. The Belt is an important region in its own right and not some backwater...hence the name Phaeton, after the planet that was believed to have been shattered in its infancy to form the Belt. Every asteroid and shard of rock, reunited at last under one people, one flag, one leader.”“No! No! No! No! No!” Fairchild's face can't seem to decide whether to turn red or white.“Ah, thank you Hermione.” You call her by her given name just to annoy her, “You reminded me of how important it is that our status in our own territory is respected. How very thoughtful of you.” You wink roguishly at her and you swear her eyes bulge as if trying to leap out of her head and stab you to death with their baleful gaze, “As a sovereign member of the Solar System League, we insist our laws be followed within our own territory. National Secretariat Longshadow will go over the details with your people. For starters, all colonies in the Belt that do not join will need to pay a small defense tax in return for our protection, or forego it and be left to the mercy of fate.”“...So am I royalty or what, Dude? Do people gotta kiss my hand?” Miles questions you.“No, because I don't want Richard cleaving anyone in two.” You clarify.“This is UNACCEPTABLE!” Fairchild roars, “What laws!? What territory!? You...you...”“Oh, right, of course we reserve the right to tax all foreign vessels passing through our territory. Armed convoys are strongly recommended to contact us in advance and register or risk being mistaken for remaining pirate crews and intercepted as such.” You smile like a carrot-haired saint, but your heart is hard as flint as what's coming next, “And one more thing...”“No! Denied on every count! Even if you didn't start making demands, I would never authorize Jovian sponsorship for your entry into the Solar System League!” Fairchild howls. Her face is twisted with outraged grief.This is going to feel so good.[Continued]
>>1642365Wong, my boner can only get so erect!...Please, keep going.
>>1642384I mean technically everyone who is actually shooting is more than likely going to be aiming for random locations because thats just more accurate.
>>1642386This has been a long time coming.
>>1642399Wouldn't just shooting center mass be better overall since its the largest target and has the cockpit?
>>1642404called shots have an accuracy penalty.only melee takes no malus for specific targets, but that's a houserule.
>>1642404Maybe in a logical world but in mekton a called shot to the torso would be -3 to hit.
>>1642410>>1642412Also burst weapons can't make called shots at all.
>>1642412>>1642412Well of course in the mechanics its that way, but we debating things in the story and have to use logical arguments.
>>1642410>but that's a houserule.Its not actually, its in the core book.
>>1642417Hard to get more logical than maths. Just means that everyone firing a gun is potentially going for the kill shot.
>>1642404Presumably that's one reason why the torso comes up as so many results on that chart while each limb has one specific numerical result, because by default you aim for the middle.
>>1642418must be remembering wrong, then, since I remember Wong thinking it was dumb that melee attacks could attack the left foot and a random wing on the same action.
>>1642433Probably talking about linked melee weapons with the cheaper version of the link.
look at this way their was no rules against cockpit shots in the tournament yet no one died
>>1642441There was a rule that if anyone got killed the other person would be dq'd.
>>1642449and even then there were a couple of close calls due to dice fuckery.
>>1642441I am pretty sure a couple of people came very close to dying.
>>1642449Also drunken luck expenditures .>>1642449Not a mechanical rule though.
>>1642449still people were not using nonlethal called shots everyone starewind has killed has either been unlucky or we aimed to kill them even when we are fighting our hardest we don't seem to kill people if the avalonians eject we capture them if they don't they die the choice is largely on their side whether they die or not our input means little
>>1642474I'll have you know I waas completely sober when I spent all my luck.I just knew that, barring an extremely unlucky roll on hit location, I could survive even if I rolled a 1 on ejection.
Oh man, after a salty string of Overwatch games, I see that the name I suggested a while ago for the new nation won and Fairchild on the verge of REEEing.Ah, the salt is starting to go away.
>>1642497It was a really good suggestion, really works for what we need.
>>1642491Regular mooks are also less likely to roll well and eject on time. Less luck too if I remember right.
Your own triumphant smile vanishes as some cold, hard memories resurface, “You owe me blood, Fairchild.”“I owe you NOTHING!” She roars.“Wrong. Your own crimes led to the death of my brother. I know the name of his killer, and I demand satisfaction. I will have my vengeance upon Bethany Cabot.” Your voice comes out as a growl.General Regina Hatsheput gets out her PC, and begins fiddling with it. It looks as if she's bringing up a file. Once she has it, she puts the PC back into her sleeve, and smiles brightly, watching things unfold. Fairchild sputters, “You have no right!”“Wrong. I have every right. She boasted about it, and we have independent sources confirming she killed Cassius. It's not a secret.” You're in no more mood for games.“We will NOT surrender a Jovian soldier to be executed without trial!” Fairchild jumps to her feet.“That's why I'm challenging her to a duel. You think I'd pass up the opportunity to do it myself?” You gently dislodge Rosita, and stand up too, looming over Fairchild.“ABSOLUTELY NO-!” Fairchild is cut off abruptly as the guard standing beside her pulls off her helmet and throws it aside.“ABSOLUTELY, YOU BASTARD!” Bethany Cabot's manic grin gleams like a crescent moon, her eyes glittering with hate, “I'm going to fucking carve you like a turkey in front of all of your sluts and give your heart to Farragut.”“Be-” Fairchild starts, her face turning white.“No! Don't you 'Bethany' me this time, General! It's MY turn to be fucking pissed off!” Cabot jabs a finger at you like a lance, “I've wanted to add another Starwind to my killcount ever since I got the older brother, you jumped-up space-trash punk! Finally, I get the chance to make a legend end in TRAGEDY! I'll finally get the credit I deserve after I erase you and show that pissant hick boy Wedge what a real officer looks like! You're fucking dead, Starwind! Fucking DEAD! I'm going to drag your fucking mech around this colony behind mine and grind your face into a red SMEAR on the colony hull! I'm going to pull you apart like I used to do to my dolls as a girl! I'm going to destroy you in front of EVERYONE who cares about you! No way I'd pass this up! I'll fucking MURDER you on the eve of your own fucking WEDDING!” She throws her head back and crows with overjoyed laughter, “At last I get to END YOUR SHIT, STARWIIIIIIIIND!” [Continued]
>>1642532>Let's see you try consolation prize.
>>1642522the roll is based on agility. Considering all pilots seem to have 10, then even rolling a 1 a rookie can eject.>>1642532Wait, did she just accept without deciding what the parameters are? Also, I really suggest wearing a helmet and some proper armor for this.. maybe Eustace left us some power armor as a wedding gift?
>>1642532Oh its on bitch.Time to die.
>>1642532she wants a mech battle....good gooood!
>>1642532Correct me if I'm wrong. But did just admit to murdering a Jovian officer? Cassius was in the military yeah?
>>1642532Jesus fucking christ this bitch is crazy.
>>1642532A mech battle? We've already beaten her twice in a mech battle. She doesn't want to use a missile. Stick a knife in me, see what happens when you tuuurn it.
>>1642558IIRC he was an employee at one of the corps.
>>1642553Seems more like she wants to kill us personally and then drag our mech around after she wins.
>>1642561Let off some steam Bennett.
>>1642561Rule of 3, and I am perfectly fine with her fighting us in the mech. By the way, think enough time passed for Karen to have given us Gamma Armor? Because I would like Gamma Armor when she tries to missile storm us again.
>>1642562I mean. Killing a citizen isn't very good either. But I thought that was just his cover since he was on Fairchilds military ship.At the least she killed a significant asset.
>>1642567Put her in a body bag
>>1642569> THIS time it'll work!
>>1642547the whole 10 thing was an ace/tourney character only thing. I don't think every pilot has godlike reflexes.
>>1642577If there was a way to punch missile, I would also go for that.
>>1642576Rip her throat out, like Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse.
>>1642587hove our drones intercept them. same thing.
>>1642589>Not in the form of an 80s movie quoteSurely you can't be serious.
>>1642589Forgot my image.
>>1642595That.. is a good point. With proper positioning we could have each drone serve as an intercept for the missiles. I don't think it can shoot through occupied hexes, so we could have them serve to soak. They still have our dodge too so they can still miss.
>>1642596I am serious, and don't call me Shirley. Also I just watched Central Intelligence. The Rock's character is obsessed with the 80s. It totally works shhh.
>>1642599I always thought of Patrick Swayze as the guy from Ghost Dad.
I'd like to basically have the conditions of our brother's duel replicated, just with Roarke winning instead as a sort of ironic echo, but a mecha battle wouldn't be too bad. It'd be really stupid of her to consent to one though, considering she wouldn't have much of a chance compared to a Jovian style sword duel.
>>1642610They didn't duel though.
>>1642610I don't think logic is going through Cabot's brain right now. Just anger, impotent rage, and a really large murder boner. That helps us more than anything and I really don't mind that. Let her think she can kill us in a mech fight for maximum effect. Then we show all the new features we have in our machine and crush her cockpit like a grape.
>>1642620crush it like our old captains so fair child has to put her out of her misery
>>1642607I just watched Vice Squad recently and I'm just dying for an opportunity to use some of those quotes.
“It's going to be a pleasure killing you.” You tell her sincerely. “Can't have a kingdom without a king, I'm gonna enjoy watching your Captains turn on each other like wolves. Why wait?” She draws her mono-rapier, “I'm going to take you apart right here, right now.”“Let's see you try, consolation prize.” You slip your hands into your pockets, and into your gloves. You're going to break her fucking neck.“IF there is to be a duel, MAJOR CABOT, it will be in mecha.” General Fairchild snaps, and glares at her subordinate. “There is no kingdom either, as the ranking Jovian official here I refuse that...that man's entry into the Solar System League.”Cabot snarls and sheathes her blade, “Whatever. Just delays the inevitable. Be angry at me later, General, I'm doing this for you too.” Her voice is achingly sincere and achingly bloodthirsty.General Hatsheput gets her PC out again, and sends something. General Fairchild's PC bwoops at her. Hatsheput smiles, “Actually, Hermione, Chairman Luxol gave me authority to approve this measure if it came to pass. He received a coded message from the Martian Caliph encouraging it if this came to pass even before we arrived here. Of course, I couldn't say anything until now and risk weakening our position, I'm sure you understand. Phaeton in the League is good for all three of us.”That more than anything seems to take the spirit out of General Fairchild. She slumps, head down, deflated and spiritless, “Twenty-four hours. We will need twenty-four hours to complete testing on Major Cabot's new mech. The Nightmare will put an end to this madness.” “You can give it whatever name you want, no matter how many Slayers you throw at me I'll still tear them apart.” You respond.Fairchild gets up, her face ashen and lifeless, turns, and leaves without waiting for the rest of her contingent. Or Bethany, who looks as if she wants to exchange a few more words but hurries to catch up.
>>1642607Is it just a re-take of The Man with the races swapped? Because I would watch that.
>>1642632Just looked it up. Sounds fucking dope.
>>1642640It is such a quotable movie.
>>1642638No. This movie is actually good.
>>1642634Anyone think we can tear her out of her mech and THEN snap her neck? Then crush her skull?
>>1642634The Nightmare is a pretty good name all things considered.
>>1642647Shut your whore mouth.
>>164263424 hours prep time you say? Hey Karen, how goes our upgrades? Because I could really go for an all nighter with making sure all our new toys and CP is used to fully gear up the Kaiser.. because a biocore would be hilariously powerful for us right now.
>>1642653It's pretentious edgy shit. No style.
>>1642653Add a K and it sounds Avalonian.
>>1642662Then It becomes Code Geass.
>>1642662That's Code Geass.
>>1642662I thought Jupiter was Space America?
>>1642658. . . . Uh. That sounds like an awesome and terrible idea.
>>1642650It would just be taking her cockpit ball out and then breaking it open and stepping out of ours.>>1642658We should stop by Master Asia's too and see if he has anything last minute he can teach us. A Sekiha Tenkyoken would be great right now.
>>1642661Lots of cool things are called nightmare.
>>1642662We can sell them the scrap of the nightmare frame~
>>1642670>>1642669Eh. Sub-par mecha show.
>>1642677Nah that's a waste of a perfectly new officers mech, after we scrub the blood out of the cockpit of course.
Can we equip a Ranged only Active shield for this fight only?>>1642681Yep. Still better than Double Zeta Gundam though.
>>1642656Central Intelligence has The Rock and Kevin Hart. Loads of fun references and you can tell everyone had a fucking gas filming. The Man was meh.
>>1642682Boo. I'm making a code geass joke.The mechs in Code geass are called knightmare Frames.
>>1642634There's gonna be some way we can make sure cabot is IN the Nightmare at the start of the duel, right? And some way to keep her under total and complete surveillance till then? Because honestly, if they try anything with another drone cockpit, or worse some kind of sick sacrificial lamb...
>>1642676That was in German though. And it's also a Zaku so inherently superior.
>>1642673I wish that the sheer ammount of fighting, love making, and murder boner has gotten the Mandrake to full size since the tourney ended. Add the Gamma armor, and even if she is firing 8 kill missiles, our armor will be taking no ablative damage. Also, making some of our bit arms disruptive. That'd be handy if she goes 'ahaha! I got a shield now that can fully deflect your attacks!'
>>1642682I'd say give it to Flint since he's one of my favorite characters.
>>1642693Also the best soul calibur character after yoshimitsu.
>>1642687> Samuel L. Jackson and Eugene LevyAnd it is the mis-match buddy cop accountant/hard-ass movie from the 80s that y'all are jizzing yourself over "muh references"
>>1642692Both times when you scanned the S-Slayers previously you knew something was weird about their cockpits.
>>1642710Fucking truth right there.
>>1642710That's not how you spell Voldo but close.
>>1642720>He didn't main Necrid
>>1642714Yes, but a scan wouldn't necessarily detect the difference between Cabot, actually in her mech, and some poor girl trapped inside it and just refusing to talk/having her comms rerouted to Cabot in a different location. Am I being paranoid? Almost certainly, but I don't want to leave even the slightest chance for Fairchild or Cabot to snake their way into escaping alive.
>>1642714It will certainly determine how the fight will go. Because if she is, then Karen jamming the remote function if she DID try something would be hilarious.Do we get to upgrade for this though? Or has Karen been making something to really make us proud during the tourney between contestants?
>>1642729>>1642720>>1642710Haha jokes over. Can't believe people can't spell Mitsurugi
so... can we keep her head as a trophy or something?
>>1642754Her mech's head goes in the bar.
>>1642754I'd say either keep her skull on our desk, or melt down her sword to make something for us to wear.
>>1642737Karen, without her grandfather or Doctor Clancy, has been working virtually nonstop inspecting, prepping, and repairing the tourney mecha. She certainly hasn't had time for big upgrades. As to your other concern, if you're really worried about that, and it's a fair concern given your history with the First Mate...figure out what you can do.
>>1642761Make it into jewelry for Roarke's wives. So Fairchild'll never forget.
>>1642767Can we go train with Master Asia for a bit?>>1642768I wanted to send her head back to Fairchild
Also, we ARE done for tonight. Short session tomorrow to wrap things up and prepare for the duel.
>>1642772I was talking about the sword. Human bone jewelry would be pretty shit. And I doubt any of them would accept it.
>>1642778I knew that for the jewelry, but I think she would be even less likely to forget with the head.
>>1642767Well, Karen has had access to our bits, the two cockpit bits of our defeated slayers, and likely plenty of tech from Psyche's labs. While she might not be able to make a full upgrade, she should be able to make a jammer if she's been keeping on top of those. Might take her a bit, but it is a very doable thing system wise. She has the smarts, hacking know how and all that to do so even.
>>1642792Why make a Jammer when we can use the bits to triangulate the source and jam our fist into her cock.
>>1642803into her cock?then it would be a he
>>1642803Hey there's only one girl (boy) we do that too
>>1642803Because I want to jam her trick right down her throat. I want her to freak out when her machine won't move and we are coming for her directly. Make no mistake, I agree with your use, but I want to make sure she does not have a chance to do any bullshit. At the least, a boosterpack and maybe some of that disrupter stuff on a bit fist would be nice.
>>1642817Being a physically attractive woman is the only positive Cabot has going for her.
>>1642841Too much T, not enough A.
>>1642888Actually, she's got a pretty decent ass according to the visual novels. Not so much in the anime, sadly.
>>1642904Not. Enough. Ass.
>>1642913Needs more boosters. How does she get enough acceleration with just the one?
>>1642921Her mouth serves as one if you consider all the methane and hot air coming out of it.
>>1642923I think we should give her a few more ports.
>>1642913Yeah. Canonically, she's supposed to have a tall, lithe, swimmer's body. More legs and hips than ass. Obviously, disregarding the prequel, this is not reflected at all in her actual design.
>>1642824That all costs you and would be prohibitively expensive right now. Karen is very good at her job, but she's not a wizard.
>>1642972. . . . . Only another 15 years and we could have had a wizard. But noooo we just had to doink the mecha weeweeb.
>>1642972So a no on the Jammer then? Would tracing a signal be possible? Finding the origin of the commands?
>>1642197I suspect Thunder's seen some heavy action. I do not find it creepy nor off-putting but admirable.
>>1643010I haven't served.
>[murderboner is reaching unsafe levels of intensity]
>>1643015It's cool. LET US RAISE OUR MURDERBONERS TO THE SKY.
>>1642972Even the boosterpack? They're generally pretty cheap, and it's not like they need to be balanced for weight or anything as long as they're below the B.mod cutoff.
>>1643015We've gotten this far playing the paragon with battle, why change now? It'll likely be noticed by the others.