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The endless halls and twisting corridors of the vast server ship stretch on into the distance as echos of mechanical devices and industrial facilities hum and churn like the beat of the heart of a giant. The metal walls cold and sleek as your drones oversee the dissections of innumerable samples of ship organs and dead hive drones. Chunks of black ooze cover the insides of transpasteel tubes as the globules of flesh pulsate within, feeling for any form of an exit to the world beyond. Powerful electrodes shock at the samples periodically at your direction as scanners record the instinctive reactions as your thinkers and the millions of research instances compare notes on the hostile hive creep's behavior. The genetic sequencing of the forces of the Obsidian Queen unfold across a thousand server farms as your hive thinkers bounce data back and forth between the server ship's host research instances in a chaotic chorus of psionic and electronic thought. Deeper within the sleek metal bowls of the parked ship drones float in the zero gravity, mingling with mechanical arms and mobile sensor pods as they examine petri dishes of growing fibers and lumps of oddly colored mattes of flesh. Half grown organs of various species pulsate with electrical stimulation in vats of fluid along the walls, and a hand of vat grown muscle twitches, its fingers tightening and relaxing in time with the needle thin electrode fixed within a mechanical arm as it prods the muscle fibers one at a time. Its skeleton is a glossy black, taping at the test bed with the clack of metal on metal until the sinew ruptures, sending a thick gray blood spilling into the air.

Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!

>Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest
>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest
>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone
>FAQ ask.fm/QuestDrone
>Discussion page http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest_talk:Hive_Queen_Quest
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>>1460458
Wooo!
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Happy Mothers Day QD!
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>>1460458
Good to see our joint project is still progressing well
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>>1460458
You feel the notice of a Distant Mind
>Psionic research has received a small boost
>Slip drives have a 10% chance to alert you to their usage

>Current resource reserves
Nutrients: 27,426,540N
Metals: 16,984,364M
Credits: ₡602,226
Credits in Lyle’s account: ₡1,175,000

Active trade routes
>Leeland – Lanway: HMS Orphan, Captain John Spreckels
[FormOther brand Fusion Reactors]

>Formed fleets and orders
Citadel Hive Ship – [Awaiting orders]
Small Heavy Defense Fleet [Patrolling Leeland space]
25 Heavy Battle Fleet [Supporting Commonwealth Liberation]
5 Missile Ambush Fleet [Awaiting orders]
30 Light Fleets [Supporting Commonwealth Liberation]
20 Light Fleets [Awaiting orders]
10 Fast Assault Fleets [Awaiting orders]
10 Ambush Fleet
6 Carrier Battle groups

Clone upkeep/special projects and expenses
[Gemini]
3 Taidaren Hybrids (105)
4 Human flash clone upkeep – 120
18 Human hybrid clone upkeep – 540
Specializations:
>Tech
>Engineer
>Brawler
[Hive space]
100 Human Hybrids – 3,000
Lyle Rogers – 57
Jackob Eisner – 56
Dillon Reager – 30
Clone/project upkeep – 3,908N

>Income
Metals: 2,950,500
Nutrients: 7,636,000
Net:

Total upkeep
Nutrient costs: 6,675,390
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GAS THE SQUIDS
NUKE THE WHALES
STAB THE MONKEYS
TRUST NOTHING
THE VOID IS WATCHING
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>>1460476
Finished Research

>Atmospheric static generator
By utilizing the natural friction of a sufficiently dense atmosphere against the surface of a capillary tower, the tower can be made to generate energy to feed itself and reduce its upkeep cost. While having no effect on the initial construction costs, upkeep is reduced by 50% for any capillary tower built on a planet with an atmosphere.

>Gravity thrusters
Similar in function to your Skid drive, the Gravity thrusters essentially surf along pre-existing gravity fields, increasing their performance when in close proximity to major sources of gravitational pull, be it a large celestial body, a star, a planet, an exceptionally large structure or group of structures, or the core of a gravity drive. While in deep space it becomes less effective, the law of universal gravitation means it never becomes totally useless, and when in close proximity to a powerful gravity source it should outperform most other thruster designs with ease.

>Advanced Psionic Reading
By utilizing a recently practiced deeper understanding of alien thought, and more nuanced psionic signals to trace the neural structure of a living mind, it is possible to create a far more detailed picture of the thought process of non-hive entities beyond the ability to skim surface thoughts and emotions. This process is more invasive, however, as it requires the target mind to recall thoughts to be examined, using psionic signals to stimulate particular neural pathways and forcibly recall the targeted memories. The attempt will always be detected, however it is possible to block out the target's perception of the even, resulting in a momentary gap in memory. The target is incapable of any action, mental or otherwise as their mind is mentally probed. The target can attempt to resist the initial attempt, and there is a chance they may hold some memory of the event itself, although a successful reading will be perceived as a momentary time lapse accompanying a felling of Déjà vu. Additional symptoms may include nose bleeds caused by temporary micro-hemorrhaging within the brain, dizziness, bloodshot eyes, and fatigue, although after an initial field test you suspect many of these symptoms are either random or dependent on the target individual, as well as the length of the mental probing itself, its severity, and how much resistance the target is capable of. The target must be within 5 meters of a medium or advanced relay to make an advanced reading attempt, can only target one individual at a time, and any other individual within range not targeted will sense the attempt, including vague imprints of the information being probed, especially if the target resists the attempt.
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Is there a Mother's Day equivalent for the Union and Commonwealth? Because I imagine it's one of the few holidays the Hive would recognize.

Except, y'know, every day in the Hive is Mother's Day.
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>>1460485

New Passive Upgrade unlocked
Gravity Thruster – The maneuvering thrusts of corvette sized ships and larger are replaced with gravity foils. Corvette ships and larger now receive increasing maneuvering bonus when operating within gravity wells. Larger gravity wells increase the bonus received. Capital ships can now operate within a planet's atmosphere to a limited degree. Operational Gravity Drives within Short range provide a minor bonus as well which increases with proximity.

New Research Available

Empathetic Paralysis
Fast
In essence an attempt to weaponise the side effect of psionic probing, empathetic paralysis uses finely tuned and precisely targeted psionic signals to effectively jam the target's somatic nervous system temporarily.

Gas Giant Superstructure Construction
Medium
Using a mixture of space station technology and modified, miniaturized capillary towers, it may be possible to create semi-permanent or fully permanent hives within the upper atmospheres of gas giants, where a mixture of atmospheric static, wind farming, and gas mining can provide a more constant and bountiful resource income while providing a more robust frame with which to construct infrastructure.

Swarm Drive Tuning
Slow
By configuring the gravity thrusters to respond to the foils of other ships within the same formation, performance can be increased outside of a gravity well by taking advantage of a kind of gravitational slipstream created from the foil's unique gravitational effects.

Gravity Thruster Optimization
Medium
Miniaturization to the gravity thruster itself, as well as optimizing the layout of the foils across the hull allow for smaller strike craft sized ships to make use of the thrusters both when operating in atmosphere and when performing evasive maneuvers.
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>>1460458
Damn, is her creep producing drones?
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Daily reminder

>Raid OQ
>Read the locked memories of that thinker.
>Board a scav vessel for their FTL.
>Send a diplomacy team to earth.
>Build that new FTL prediction building.
>Take Reprive (I think that is the system that our mother made her last stand and it only has mining corvetts, it would be a great test for our raiding fleet.)
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>>1460491
Current Research

Psionic Thermokinesis
slow/mildly dangerous
An even more finely tuned execution of known tachyonic physics, thermokinesis is the practice of altering the energy state of atoms, but instead of altering their velocity, it utilizes a less uniform alteration to increase or decrease atomic vibration, quickly increasing or decreasing the ambient temperature of the target. It may take some time for your thinkers to successfully accomplish this feat, however, without also igniting the laboratory.

Psionic Conduction
slow/mildly dangerous
While altering the physical nature of particles has become possible, using highly controlled tachyonic signals it may also be possible to use the projected psionic energy to subtly alter and transfer other forms of energy in a more direct process than kinetic force. Your thinkers believe it may be possible to use alternate sources of energy outside of the target and potentially use tachyonic signals in order to carry that energy to the target. The early experiments have already proven promising, however it may be some time before the thinkers are capable of producing results without causing spontaneous detonations within the laboratory.

Cybernetic memory extraction
Fast
With the continued assistance of Theseus and his extensive mechanical research systems, you feel confident in your ability to extract at least partial memory fragments from the largely cybernetic brain of the killed Smith agent. It is too soon to determine if the data is of any use, but it could offer further clues regarding their origin and capabilities.

Memory Seed
Slow
By creating a miniaturized and less overtly useful memory crystal similar in overall function to the white crystals used to record thought by your elders, and modifying it into a neural implant, you believe it may be possible to create a kind of constantly updating backup memory for clones, agents, and even drones that would potentially hold its information after death. The memory seed would theoretically be capable of retaining the full memories of the host individual up to and including the very moment of death, and be able to preserve those memories long after the brain itself has physically deteriorated, a process that typically drastically limits the time frame in which memories can be gathered.
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>>1460491
That's some nice research that got unlocked.
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>>1460491
>Gas Giant Superstructure Construction
[NEW CONSTRUCTION OPTIONS]
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>>1460499
>Psionic Spores
Slow
While normally the hive spores used to spread infrastructure are little more than genetically engineered nanomachines, replicating and performing their function alone until their built structure is complex enough to receive mental signals, your mixture of psionic research and advancements in spore related genetic programming has made the idea of a psionically sensitive spore seem not nearly as far fetched as it once did. With a mixture of distributed networking and complex cellular reconstruction methods, it could be possible to create a spore strain that would respond to mental signals.

>Advanced Psionic Imprinting
Slow
With the application of psionic imprinting you are able to influence and alter the state of matter using only focused and precise mental signals. Your thinkers believe this can be taken further, using more accurate signals and more precise manipulation methods to imprint more complex thoughts and ideas more quickly and easily, and at a greater range.

>Personal shielding
Slow
By further shrinking the emitters, your thinkers believe they may be able to eventually make them small enough to be equipped to the carapace of a drone, or to the surface of an armored suit. At this time it is mostly speculation and an eagerness to please mother beyond all reason, and you cannot be sure what the limitations may be, but the thinkers are sure they can do it.

>Shield dome
Slow
The opposite way of thinking as personal shielding, by scaling the shield emitters up further to a size that would be impossible to hold and power on a ship, your thinkers suspect they should be able to construct a defensive perimeter around a hive center protected by a powerful defensive shield. The thinkers that have proposed the idea seem to be certain in the failure of the other project, as they are of this one, and you have had to separate the quantum thinkers as they attempted to disprove each others’ theories more than develop their own.

Available research options

>Psionic Cannon prototype
Very slow/Very dangerous
Detailed accounts of several experiments show the slow progress of Project Godsplitter. The cannon itself is highly volatile, and even the smallest miscalculation often results in the destruction of the ship, as well as any nearby craft. It can only be equipped to a Hive ship's spinal mount, and requires a functional Void Shard as ammunition. At least a dozen testing sizes were atomized in testing the weapon, and in the end it appears The Gardener never quite perfected it.

>Add new research
>Add Psionic Cannon
>Other
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>>1460524
>Add all new research
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>>1460524
>Add new research
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>>1460524
>Add new research
Pile it on, senpaitachi
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>>1460494
Looks like Theseus is testing out creating his own synthetic life by studying the Obisidian Hive genetics
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>>1460524
>Add new research
Like always.

So I asked on the ask.fm, but I'll ask again: is it possible to make a ship armour out of the tachyon-blocking material Silence Chambers are made out of? Those hypothetical ships would probably need Thinkers since it would block our psionic signal, but it would affect my decision of when to add Psionic Cannon.
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>>1460524
>>Add new research
Oh man we can make Cloud Cities now, this is freaking awesome.
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>>1460562
Builder tried the same shit and you saw how it ended.
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>>1460573
We can't yet, but will be able to in the future.

Did we get confirmation that we're building more ships?
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>>1460578
We don't have the resource income to maintain new ships.
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>>1460524
>add all
>exception: psionic cannon
>begin construction of a psionically shielded space station in orbit of Leeland
>research psionic cannon there
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>>1460583
Has it ever occurred to you the inventor of psionic shielding material tried that shit and died because of it?
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>>1460458
I just want you to know I absolutely love your quest, QD.

That is all.
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>>1460524
>Add new research

Gilliam darts his eyes back and forth across the hall as he and Palmer enter the dormitory common room with two armed guards close behind. An assembly of lab equipment has been assembled across the tables, while several hefty guns have been placed into makeshift barricades, strapped to overturned tables along the perimeter. Guards stand about nervously as a rare few manage to sleep near the center of the room. Palmer is still lost in thought, nearly walking into the door frame as he examines data readouts on his tablet.

"Palmer, Gilliam!" Norris shouts as he quickly approaches and snaps Palmer out of his focus. "I need to know everything about this thing. Keep me up to date on whatever you find."

>Mention the creature could be a shapeshifter
>Claim it seems to collect genetic material from its prey
>Don't mention any new discoveries
>Other

>>1460562
Theoretically yes, although I can't promise it will have any defensive qualities.
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Have we finally completed all four space elevators on Leeland?
The new upgrade will really help offset the cost

plus DAtS just finished their own research that lets them connect space elevators with docking ring circling the planet and I know QD and Grave are buddies so QD might have something similar planned
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>>1460583
I'd suggest instead making labs in a bunch of cloaked corvettes and sending them away from our systems, with silence chambers on board and orders to jump to another system if something shows up to track them down. Also with cloaked maintenance corvettes so they're self-sufficient.
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>>1460596
>Mention the creature could be a shapeshifter
>Claim it seems to collect genetic material from its prey
Get it out of the way
Probably the captain already expected that anyway
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>>1460574
>>1460590
Did she? I don't recall so could you post the part where she did?
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>>1460596
>Mention the creature could be a shapeshifter
>Claim it seems to collect genetic material from its prey
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>>1460596
>Mention the creature could be a shapeshifter
>Claim it seems to collect genetic material from its prey

You don't need to be a rocket doctor to tell them that much.
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>>1460596

>Mention the creature could be a shapeshifter
>Claim it seems to collect genetic material from its prey

It is possible it even could imitate you, although it probably will not have full access to your memories.
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>>1460590
Source?

>>1460602
This might be wiser.

>>1460606
This.
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>>1460596
>Mention the creature could be a shapeshifter
>Claim it seems to collect genetic material from its prey
>And on a side note camp Thule is possibly digging up more after we warned them not to.
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>>1460494
Literally all creep produces drones, by definition.

It's just they're usually sessile ones.
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>>1460596
>>Mention the creature could be a shapeshifter
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>>1460622
Use some goddamn logic anon.
>Builder invented this psionic shielding tech.
>She was in charge of researching the Cannon.
>She still fucking died.
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>>1460562
>>1460583
That makes no sense.

The cannon operates on too large a scale to research it -inside- a space station. It's practically the Death Star.

And you're dealing with 4-dimensional crystals, you think blocking off a section of merely 3-dimensional space will really stop Them noticing when by necessity you've brought one of the crystals inside that area?
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>>1460645
You're very far from logic, and apparently angry. Calm down hothead
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>>1460645
>Builder invented this psionic shielding tech.
I thought she was still researching it in the space superstructure.
Can you post the part where she used the insulation material multiple times?
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>>1460645
She never quite perfected it.
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>>1460665
Come you should be smart enough to connect the dots. Builder literally invented the tech and you somehow think she wouldn't use the same plan for researching the cannon.
Basically the problem is countermeasures are worthless unless we study the void crystals to understand why they always fail.
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>>1460645
She got stabbed in the back by the Obsidian/Black Queen last I recall, anon. Maybe you should calm down and find a source.

>>1460662
It's the size of a Hive Ship's spinal mount (6200 meters long) when finished. That's nowhere near Death Star tier. It's big, yes, but its "annihilate matter" radius is bigger (tens of kilometers due to the space between ships in a fleet - potentially enough to get through the crust (earth has 30km of crust) of any planet we place it on).
Also yes I do think blocking off a section of a 3d space object will help, because we'll be insulating it with material that blocks tachyons, AKA the main tool of our foe.
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>>1460706
What I think is that at the time builder bit was revealed there were no QD plans for there to be psionic shielding. That seems much more reasonable, unless QD planned everything in the setting out already.
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>>1460722
Look at it this way, you can't use tachyons to look from outside the box into the inside, since they are blocked. However, void gods are neither outside nor inside the box. They're somewhat omnipresent.
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>>1460722
That's like drawing a circle on a piece of paper and thinking you've stopped a 3-dimensional entity from reaching the inside of the circle.

Especially when your entire research subject is dragging one of their 3-d fingers inside the circle to stab it a lot.
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>>1460683
It was never explicitly stated but we have to assume the worst case that she did use it for researching the cannon. However there are several details that implied she already finished researched it like the design of her throne room or how she managed to survive the Black Queens betrayal.
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>>1460596

"Well, it's not exactly confirmed but..." Gilliam says "We did find some strange things with our dissection of the remains."

"Namely, remains of other creatures." Palmer adds.

"Or at least their facsimiles." Gilliam continues. "From maybe half a dozen species. This thing could be some kind of shapeshifter, possibly, although we don't have much way of knowing how effective the mimicry is, or if it has the capacity to mimic behavior as well. It also seems to... I'm mostly just hypothesizing here, but it seems to be able to adapt its own genetic structure by consuming other sources of DNA based life."

"What?" Norris replies. "So, what it can mutate itself or something?"

"It's possible." Palmer says. "It has the same general triplex architecture of the Hive drones we discovered, and I believe I have a general hypothesis on the structure's purpose, but in general I think it's a safe bet that it holds a similar practical genetic diversity, that is to say, deliberate and functional mutations, as does the Hive due to the similar structures." He pauses, as if expecting Norris to cut him off, but he seems surprisingly interested in the explanation. Palmer continues. "I think it may be that the triplex allows for a much more rapid and versatile alteration of genetics while decreasing stability and increasing unintentional mutation. It's like... a factory verses a workshop. Our genetics are hand crafted over millions and billions of years of evolution, while theirs is mass manufactured for a predetermined function. In the Hive's case, that function seems to be a rigid caste system in which each drone slots into society like a tool or organ, but for this creature... I think it's to enable it to gather and redesign its own genetic structure to adapt to new environments, and take on new forms."

"So how long will it be before it can start looking like a human?" Norris says, Palmer and Gilliam look to each other cautiously.

"We don't know." Gilliam says. "And there's not really any way of knowing until we see it in a new form." Norris looks between the two doctors for some time in silence, then looks to his side as he clicks a radio in his ear.

"Kill team. We have some new intel. Turns out my suspicions are right. This thing can shapeshift. No word on how good it is, or how fast it can manage it. Assume it's damn good and damn fast. Over." He says quickly. There is a static filled crackle on the other end.

"Roger that, sir. We plan on checking IDs."

"We'll have a medical scanner setup by the time you get back. You find anyone they go through the scanner before getting treatment, don't care if they're holding their own liver." Norris says back. "Over and out."
Cont.

>>1460600
We've been working over that little upgrade for a while now, actually. We talk a lot about crunch stuff at times, we're just about running the same system at this point.
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>>1460777
All the more reason to finally build those space elevators if we haven't already.
Don't know why we havent
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>>1460722
Actually Builder's the only one to survive the Betrayal intact if you followed the quest.
>>1460724
I don't think he mentioned anything like that. However he did mention there's a big metaplot and the humans were screwing around with psionic shielding long beyond we knew about it.
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>>1460777
I really like Norris.He listened to the eggheads,hes genre savvy and hes not trigger happy.I hope he dosnt die.
Also nice trips.
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>>1460752
>>1460754
We're not summoning them. And even if we did so accidentally, wouldn't you rather do so in space, away from our planets?
The psionic shielding will keep them from attempting to corrupt or otherwise make mental attacks on us or any drones outside the space object we conduct the research in. We know for a solid fact that they have to obey the laws of tachyons.
A tachyonic-shielded space object is the safest place to conduct the research, if we're hell bent on doing it.
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>>1460813
Clearly he is already the monster.

>>1460777
>check ids

That's not enough! It can steal ids off a dead man and it already has a few corpses.

The only true test is pop culture trivia or something.
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>>1460777
>It has the same general triplex architecture of the Hive drones we discovered

I thought the only one they had recovered was this one, which turned out to be a shapeshifter, not a drone? Unless I'm forgetting something
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>>1460819
>We're not summoning them.

We don't need to. They are already here.
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>>1460813
I agree about Norris. If the Union had more people like him they'd be in a much better place.


I'm wondering about how we actually are going to catch this thing. Obviously the humans won't be able to clean the area of contamination (at least to a high degree of certainty). So it seems like the best options for containment are either the Hive gets involved or the Union sends in Smiths to "clean" the area. It's a pretty good bet the creature wouldn't be able to replicate a Smith and they're likely lethal enough to take it down.
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>>1460836
Burn
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>>1460835
The Obsidian Hive remnants from when they attacked Path. There was a busted up worker and Thinker I think.

The Genie ate it all I think
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>>1460819
Your thinking is limited.
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>>1460819
That such a simple solution that the old hives would have already tried it and would kept doing it if it actually worked.
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>>1460824
We dont know how intelligent it is. For all we know, if it took human form, all it could do is mimic our basic instincts. We should assume it learns fast,just to be safe,but we need to be careful about stoking paranoia.
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>>1460777
Norris looks back to Palmer and Gilliam.

"I want a better way of detecting these things. I'm not risking anything on this xeno bastard not knowing how to blink his eyes right." A guard clears his throat behind him.

"What about trivia tests? Who won the last grav ball game, what actor is in the latest Upload to Hell remake, things like that?"

"And if it can analyse your memories, what then?" Norris replies as he quickly turns to the trooper.

"You think it could?" He says back, Norris looks back to Palmer and Gilliam, who share an uncertain look.

>Maybe?
>That sounds impossible!
>Other
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>>1460870
>Maybe?
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>>1460811
They did? I guess I forgot that if it was mentioned.
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>>1460870
>>Maybe?
If it can sample a human brain it may be able to take all their information, but it would probably be impossible for it to do so otherwise.
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>>1460870
>Maybe?
If it could, how would it translate them? The human mind is stored in the brains synapses, and at least some of them must be damaged during assimilation.Maybe instead of checking to see if they know the right answer,check and see what their response is. Does the response from a typically nervous person suit them? Are their priorities what they usually are?
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>>1460777
>"Over and out."

TRIGGERED
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>>1460854
It's probably what Mom did. At least until she had to test fire it, which she got the Builder to do. (Archive: 39014538, Post: 39017674)
And then what she continued to do once she had retreated to her holdfast. We know that firing the psionic cannon will attract the attention of the Void.

>>1460870
>Maybe?
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>>1460896
Let it go bro, it ain't worth it. Let's just assume Norris got faulty radio operation training and blame the Union. Yeah. It's their fault. The Union is always at fault.

>>1460870
>Maybe?
"We have no ability to confirm the possibility. Hypothetically, however, if it can mimic other creatures it would have some method to mimic their behavior, otherwise there would be no advantage to mimicry in the first place. You're not thinking it could sample memories from the man it killed, are you?"
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>>1460764
She survived the BQs betrayal by detonating her relay before she could be jammed.
I don't think we've ever read the description of The Builders throne room, can you post it?
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>>1460915
No actually. She actually her drones destroy the relay.
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>>1460926
She had drones on the Gardeners world?
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>>1460915
Also builder's throne room looks kind of like a cage from the description. I'll see if I can find it.
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>>1460926
No, she didn't.
Maybe you should take your own advice, anon.
>"The image goes blank as the Builder's own effigy destroys itself and you can feel the panic of the hive spread across the planet."
Same thread as the one I sourced in a previous post.
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>>1460891
I'll support that.
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>>1460458
Yaaaay qd is back! Tell your mother happy mamas day and thanks for running qd!
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>>1460870
"Maybe?" Gilliam says uneasily.

"I would doubt any natural thing could do something so complex." Palmer says. "But... I am unsure if this thing is natural at all. With its triplex genetic structure, it may be that this entity is an engineered species. The Hive is almost certainly self-engineered, advancing their genetic code like we do portable technology. We may be looking at a purpose-built infiltrator." Norris just looks back to the guard.

"If the Valen can figure out how to get usable data from a human brain, there's nothing stopping this thing from doing the same thing." Gilliam says. "Technically, at least. The question of if it holds that kind of skill is still in the air."

"Yes, it can do that." He says. "And besides, you should stop watching those 'Unity takes over the Union' disaster porn movies. Those things are full of shit." He turns back to Palmer and jabs him with his finger.

"You keep working on this. I want to know everything." He says. "We had the techs get what they could and set them up here, some of the more noisy machines were hooked up in some of the dorm rooms. Keep me posted." He says, and he walks off as several other troopers hand him a tablet and begin pointing to various areas of the dorm common room.
Cont.
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>>1460891
Sure
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>>1460970
I want to watch the 'Unity takes over the Union' disaster porn movies
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>>1460952
>>1460934
I thought the relay was on the Builder's planet. Though then again we were never told how those relays work.
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>>1460984
Soon we will get Hive takes over the Union disaster porn movies. And in the end, at long last, we will get Hive and Unity takes over the Union disaster porn movies with lewd machine insect action. Oh yes.
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>>1460987
The effigies were on the Gardener's world. We also know the capabilities of an effigy, anon: They're more or less customized advanced relays - hence why OQ captured them; so she could paralyze other hives.
Now please cool your hothead, sit down, and get back to enjoying the quest.
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>>1460987
They're advanced relays customized to reflect the owner queen's personality and characteristics, they are usually sent to the planet/designated area of the leading queen, which was the Gardener and her Garden after the white queen left.
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Palmer looks to Gilliam with concern.

"I'm still worried about that dig site on Djin. If there are more of these-"

"We should worry about the one here for now." Gilliam says. The two make their way across the room to one of the dorm rooms, the door open and the inside filled with lab equipment. As they examine the sensitive instruments for damage there is a sudden wave of commotion. Gilliam looks up to see a number of guards holding their weapons near the entrance as an argument is becoming louder and louder. Someone carries in a stretcher as two guards drag in a bloodied man in a torn suit of armor, the plates ripped open exposing deep, seeping wounds across the abdomen. One of the man's arm is missing, and the flesh along the side of his head has been ground to the bone, as if grazed by a passing machete, cleaving the ear clean off.

"Oh my god, what happened?" Gilliam says. You can hear gunshots not far down the hall, bursts of automatic fire punctuated with the sound of a grenade, and a terrible, inhuman scream follows shortly after as more of the guards fall back through the door. Gilliam moves closer for a better look, and to avoid the outer corners of the dorm's makeshift security perimeter. One of the troopers is operating the targeting UI of a remote turret on a data tablet as its ammunition counter quickly lowers, until it stops, and you can hear something tear off a wall pannel in the distance with the thunderous drumming of metal plates shearing in half.

"It's back in the vents, sounds like." Someone says, his rifle held tight like a child's security blanket, aimed up at the ceiling expectantly.


"He's in shock!" Someone shouts, and the bloodied man is placed on the stretcher. He drops several of his own fingers to the floor in a spurt of blood from his hand, and the humans around him quickly leap back in fright, one of the lab techs vomiting in the corner at the sight.

"What happened?" Norris says as the man is taken into the medical bay.

"We were ambushed by that thing. Tried to drag him off into the vents, but we fought it off." The guard says. "It happened fast, thing came out of nowhere."

"I know." Norris says. "Just... get some rest. See medical once they're done with Carver and get yourself cleared. Same to the rest of the squad." The man nods quickly as he leaves.

"Yes sir." He says quietly, and leaves with several other guards, their armor covered in blood and scrapes across the chest plates.
cont.
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>>1460984
Does that mean that Palmer is pro-Unity?
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>>1461138
Well hes going in quarantine.
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>>1461150
What? no name guard watched the movie and captain told him he had shit taste
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>>1461138
Uh, we really should run some scans on that guy who almost got dragged into the vents. If his friends lost contact with him for even a moment a "swap" may have occurred. And I am very nervous about abdomen wounds as vectors for infectious material taking over a hosts body (seeing as we do similar with parasites).
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>>1461138
Also, talk about worst day in the job.
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>>1461165
I doubt that the creature could clone an organism(not species) that it just got a sample of,including his clothes.
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It just accoured to me that dogs wod be a good way to detect the thing and hive hybrids.
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>>1461181
I suppose...

Still, we have no idea what it could have implanted when it wounded the guy (and frankly, I think infection/implantation of something is quite likely). We really need to keep our eyes on this guy.
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>>1461199
If the top secret facility contained any dogs then yeah,they would.
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>>1461202
If it is the "THING" then yeah that guard needs to be killed asap
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>>1461214
I'm still not convinced it's infectious
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>>1461202
Not saying we shouldn't. One of three bad things could be happening to him:
1.An offshoot of the creature is growing in him and will burst out,consume him.
2.The infection is spreading outwards from a single point/tumor
3.It is mainly spreading thru the bloodstream.
So we have too look for any abnormal physical growths or blood content.
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>>1461214
>>1461202
I the original movie the Thing needed time to assimilate/corrupt other lifeforms.
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>>1461153
Like he said, You find anyone they go through the scanner before getting treatment.
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I know it won't fly with these guys, but the Unity would be a great counter to a biological ambusher/infiltrator
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>>1461138

Gilliam looks through the crowd of surgeons and field medics as they drag him onto an operating table. His face is disfigured with what looks like some kind of chemical burn, his eyes sealed shut from the swelling and blood pours down from the wounds. Gilliam winces and looks away, this eyes panning over the rest of the returned squad. They look pale, their faces hung towards the ground as they remove their blood covered armor mechanically. Several of them are already missing armored plates, with deep gashes set across the remaining fabric where dried blood is crusted in layers. One of them sits on a bench, his eyes looking out to the rest of the crowd, not focusing. He is missing a finger but doesn't seem to notice, a smartrubber tourniquet stretched over the stump that remains preventing any more bleeding. For a moment you make eye contact, but you are unsure if he even notices. Another squadmate pats his shoulder.

"He's gonna be alright." Someone says, shaking him lightly. He looks back up blankly. "You still got your finger?" The man looks to his hand, as if just now realizing it is missing, and looks back.

"It's alright. Digits that that, the augs look just like the real thing." He continues with a forced laugh. The man examines his hand again and seems to crack a smile for a moment when another trooper swings into Gilliam's face from his periphery.

"The fuck you looking at?" He says. His helmet hits Gilliam in the stomach with surprising force. "You're the fucking bastards thawing out that damn thing and we're the ones that always end up on the wrong end of the stick for it!" He points to the medical bay in a general swing of his arm. "You stay out of our way and figure out how to stop that thing, or that alien won't be your biggest concern here." The soldier storms off, down the hall of dorm rooms, and you hear the loud bang of his helmet impacting a wall as he tosses it away, cursing under the noise of the impact. Gilliam catches his breath from the surprisingly firm strike, gasping for a moment as Palmer helps him back up.

"If anything this is my fault." Palmer says. "And he has a point. We need to figure this thing out fast."

"Well..."Gilliam starts, shaking his head for a moment. "Well they may have seen something. We need to at least get a debriefing." He says.

"Well you're free to ask them." Palmer says, "but I don't think they're going to be in a very objective mood for the moment."

>Follow the soldier down the hall
>Speak with the two gunners at the bench
>Find the squad leader
>Wait for the injured man to regain consciousness and ask him questions
>Other
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>>1461344
Honestly, if I was the Union, I would be sending in a Smith clean up crew to just erase anyone involved in this mess and destroy the Thing.
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>>1461355
>Find the squad leader

Protocol for this, go to leadership and then have him help debrief the others
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>>1461355
>Follow the soldier down the hall and get eaten when he transforms.
He is in a clear state of mind(not shell shocked)so we should get the most info out of him,also because he seems pissed,so he probably seen more of what the creature could do.
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>>1461355
>>1461380
Nvm,switching to >Find the squad leader
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>>1461355
>>Speak with the two gunners at the bench
They got close enough to see the creature and time is of the essence here. They could also potentially point us in the direction of the squad leader so we aren't fumbling around in the dark. Let's talk to them.

Also, I would guess that an intact finger is enough for the Thing to make a clone of our injured soldier. Let's make sure to keep an eye out for anything that looks like him approaching the perimeter and notify the entrance guards.
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>>1461355
>>Follow the soldier down the hall
He must've seen some shit.
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>>1461380
I think that referring to the angry guy who just punched us

So not in a good state of mind at all and will need the squad leader to get him to talk
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>>1461355
>Find the squad leader

>inb4 he's the one that got sended to the medbay
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>>1461355
>Find the squad leader
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>>1461358
No, if you were the union you would start worshipping the Thing, feeding it babies and doing unholy rituals to divine its purposes, and then failing that just start a genestealer cult around feeding all of your smartest scientists to it one after another
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>>1461388
This
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>>1461388
>>1461355
Second.
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>>1460522
>heard it in CABAL's voice
It's been too long.
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>>1461586
C&C didn't deserve what was done to it by EA
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>>1461592
you could say that about a lot of games lol
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>>1461421
Be fair now, the Union didn't deliberately corrupt their men to summon the void gods at Nowhere, they were just trying to figure out how the fancy, extremely dangerous alien tech worked.

They're more likely to just seal the place and observe how it kills everyone while foolishly trying to figure out how to tame or weaponize it. That said, I imagine if things go far enough they'll just nuke the place, surrounding city be damned, and blame the rebels for the blast.
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>>1461586
So glad i wasn't the only one.
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>>1461355

Gilliam quickly scans the crowd and finds the squad leader, he is standing not far from the medical bay, looking in on the procedure. Gilliam walks up and clears his throat.

"Excuse me. Is he going to be alright?" Gilliam asks. The man glances over to him for a moment.

"They think so. It did a number on him but apart from the bleeding most of the injuries on just on the surface. Some medical foam and a tank bath and they think he'll be okay for the most part."

"That's good." Gilliam says. "We can't leave this place until that thing is dead, when it attacked, did you see anything, or notice anything that comes to mind?" The man thinks for a moment before he turns to face Gilliam, his scraped chestplate holding a small name placard reading Lieutenant Donald A. Arnell

"It happened in a flash. We were looking for any signs of unusual activity when we detected movement in a lab. We went to investigate and... well it just speared out of nowhere. I think it must have set up a trap in the ceiling because it was like it just fell on top of us." He says. "It looked a bit off though. Not like that spider thing that ran away. It was almost like some kind of, I dunno, a panther maybe. Looked like it had four legs but it was moving so quick it was hard to get a count. I think it maybe had some more, or some kind of tentacles, maybe it was a tail, like I said it was moving fast but something whipped up against us and tossed us like we were a damn set of throw pillows. Grabbed him, and just bolted. We managed to get some good shots off on it and it dropped him and it looked like it went for cover, but damnit the thing hunted us all the way back here." He looks back to the trooper on the bed. "That thing just soaked up round after round. High ex, anti-personnel, incendiary, everything. I think the incendiary works best but, that's not saying much."

>Ask for details of the creature (write in)
>Ask for details of the combat (write in)
>Other
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>>1461355
>>Find the squad leader
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>>1461592
>>1461586
Try Original War
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>>1461635
>>Ask for details of the combat (write in)
Did it prioritize which human soldier to go after?

What happened right before it seemed to run away?

Did it flee in fear, or as if it had accomplished its goal?
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>>1461647
Yeah that was a real good game, a pity they never continued it but those xcom style games they then made weren't bad
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>>1461635
>>Other
How long was that trooper out of your sights?
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>>1461687
We should more question if the 'tail' was used like a sharp stabby ovipositor. Wouldn't need to be out of sight for that.
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>>1461687
Although, right. This thing's skin can fight independently from it for a short period at least.

It could shed a skin to attack them, while putting itself inside a human skin.
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>>1461635
>Other
>Would any of your other men have been in a better position to see what happened. Did you ever completely lose sight of the one it attempted to capture?

>Ask for details of the combat (write in)

>Could you say that its goal appeared to be to capture one of our men alive?
>If it had been attempting primarily to kill your squad, do you believe it could have?

We need to know if it allowed this group to escape. If it was able to move so quickly it could have wiped out the squad but it didn't, then its intention could very well have been to "allow" the squad to drive the creature away with a little "present" inside the injured comrade...
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>>1461687
+1 to this.

This is a critical question, especially taken with how it can have its skin move independently to some extent.
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>>1461729
>>1461760
>>1461635
These pls.
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Wait is there com gear part of the helmet? or just a headset?

And if so where this wounded guys headgear?
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>>1461801
Problably droped when he was snatched or it was melted by the acid. I'm surprised the squad leader didn't said anything about his underling melted face injury
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>>1461635
Was the panther the only thing moving out there?
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>>1461635

>>1461687
This is the most important question. Some of the other write ins are good, and we should use them, but it is of paramount importance we determine just how corrupted this guy is and if there is a chance he has been overtaken entirely already.
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>>1461635
"How long was he out of sight?" You ask. The Lieutenant thinks for a moment.

"Maybe a few seconds at most. Drug him off around the corner but we were right on its ass. Private Sanders was the first to get to it, actually. Lost a finger for the trouble." He says. "Then we managed to get on the scene and it started running for cover. It would come back around, we'd start shooting again the moment it popped out, and it would run away again. Got in a few good hits with that... I dunno tail thing. Seemed like it had a few of them, and they had a big claw on the end of each one. Like a goddamn scythe, it ripped right through armor." He runs his fingers through his air. "Jesus it must be sharp as a vibroblade, these are reinforced polymer. You'd need a drop suit's powered sword to at least to break through this chestplate like that. I've seen it stand up to a plasma grenade at point blank." He seems to be lost in thought for a moment before looking back to Gilliam. "The shockwave still kills you, but I mean, it tore right through the plate, not the fibre weave joints, the plate, like a tin can. Never in my life have I heard of an animal that strong."

"So Sanders, would he have gotten a better look at what happened when it attacked?" You ask, he nods.

"Yea. He was right next to the thing when it pounced on our pointman, and he stayed with it as it tried to drag him away. We heard some gunshots, and when we turned the corner he's got the thing bleeding this nasty looking blood all over and a combat knife in its side. I yell at him to get to cover, and he dives into an office, and we start shooting. It charges at us and... I guess someone hit a soft spot because it just dives for the wall and makes it into a service tunnel."

"So Sanders god close."

"Not as close as he did." He says as he points to the medical bay. "But yea, god real shook up over it though. Not sure if he's got much to say. You really need to talk with him, take it easy. Don't fuck him up any more than he already is. He hasn't said a word since we got back and if I don't blame him."

Gilliam looks back to the bench where the two privates have stowed their gear. You can see Sanders walk down the hall as the other squadmate pats his back and watches him go as he scrapes at the fresh blood in his hair.

>Speak with Private Sanders
>Ask additional questions (write in)
>Other
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>>1461869
>>Speak with Private Sanders
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>>1461869
>Speak with Private Sanders

So it had a tail thing that was capable of breaking through the armor but would not go any deeper

and it played hit and run while using the tails on them

So? maybe it was a implant system it used on them? but need more info though
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>>1461869
>>Speak with Private Sanders
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So is the private infected in some way, or is he just shellshocked?
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>>1461869
>He hasn't said a word since we got back
Uh oh...

>Speak with Private Sanders

>Other
Tell security insendiary ammunition seems to work best. Request an armed team report to watch this "survivor".

That popping out of cover only to get shot at and then retreating sounds like a delaying tactic. The creature wanted to keep the soldiers from inspecting their wounded guy for a certain period of time for a reason...
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>>1461869
>Speak with Private Sanders

Oh my paranoia senses are tingling vilontly.
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>>1461899
Agreed. The creature could have easily killed them all. If it could rip through the armor it can rip through skin. It wanted the squad to survive...
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>>1461923
It cause we would have done the same thing as this thing and are being forced to play as the union perspective instead of being the monster for once
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>>1461869
>>Speak with Private Sanders
assuming Sanders doesn't say anything to contradict the theory, we should suggest the survivor get a very through scan at the least.

I feel like there's a hint in the anti-armor claw somewhere; if it could cut through the armor without trouble, it should have easily cut them in two. Why didn't it?
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>>1461869
>>Other
Ask for one of the other soldiers to talk to Sanders with you.

To "keep him calm."

Alert Norris discreetly that Sanders hasn't been talking and wasn't in sight at all times on the mission.
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>>1461869
>Other
Alert Norris at once that, based on the interview with the squad lead, we strongly suspect the creature allowed this security squad to escape. They should remain under observation and a security detail armed incendiary weapons should report to where the "injured" guard is being treated.
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>>1461869
Does Gilliam have access to any of the weapons lockers? This is feeling like he might need a backup weapon reeeeal soon.
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>>1461938
And now we need to predict its motives for using these tactics and that form on this group of grunts

Damn it puts into perspective on how scary we are too fight
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>>1461869
>Ask additional questions (write in)
Did anyone grab that finger?

Cause I bet this thing would be interested in the soldier's genetic material.
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>>1461938
And it also proves the thing is very smart. At least much more then a natural creature.

>>1461960
We ain't security we don't carry weapons
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>>1461899
>>1461945
>>1461950
This thing could have killed the squad but it let them go...

Sanders didn't talk and was hidden in the office right? I'm very, very worried about him. Get security up here to isolate Sanders. We may have containment breached in more than merely the med lab.
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>>1461950
>>1461955
Also supporting these. Have the doctors verify the injured is who they think he is and monitor him for signs of active contagions, and bring a guard to perform the same checks on Sanders. We can tell him it's to ensure he's not infected with anything.
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>>1461991
Meant it as CAN he get a weapon (discretely) not if he's allowed to grab one. Sorry, just a little paranoid since all we got is a parasite
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Security is the job of the hard-ass not ours. He knows what happened. Besides, even if this thing got out it wouldn't hurt us much.
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>>1462040
Except for the part where human paranoia about this shapeshifter will lead to them instituting security measures that will also expose our hybrids' nonhuman DNA.
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>>1462060
Well then we can use clones and upgrade them with either a parasite or a discreet basic relay/psionic sensitivity like Lee has. Whatever is more difficult to detect we can implement.

At this point, though, Union paranoia should be spiking. There's a good chance one of our parasited people/hybrids may eventually be discovered and we need contingency plans for if and when that happens.
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>>1462060
Honestly dont give half a shit. At this point im ready to warp in a fleet and glass the place. We've been letting them have playtime far too long
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>>1462027
We cando better and ask for a armed escort. Gilliam foesn't have the trainning for guns so having someone that actually knows how to shoot one would be more effective.
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>>1462060
Well Gilliam's just a cool dude with a parasite inside him not a hybrid, the drone's Adaptive camouflage and Mimetic skin might be able to fool a bioscan if it can blend in with the rest of him.
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>>1462077
>a discreet basic relay
Still entails "minor genetic alterations."

Parasited replicants would evade the DNA test but we have to wonder about other scans.
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This whole situation is making me wish parasites had small egg-layers so the host can puke up a few Fly or Parasite eggs
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>>1461869

"I think I need to at least ask. If he saw anything that could help-"

"Right." He says back. "I understand, just take it slow, alright? He saw some real messed up shit back there."

"I understand. Still, it doesn't quite add up."

"What do you mean?" He says. Gilliam holds his hands out for a moment.

"I mean, all things considered, it sounds like with claws that sharp it could have killed you, at least some of you, but it didn't."

"You think it let us escape? For what? Why?"

"I just.... I think you should have some guards posted over his bed. Until you can run a proper scan at least." Gilliam says hesitantly. There is a flash of anger on the lieutenant's face but he bites it down.

"I understand." He says. "I don't like it. It's goddamn disgraceful, fucking insulting, but I get it. I'll tell the captain and get some men with torches set up, and I'll be sure to run us all through the scanner just to be sure." He watches the medics work over the injured man, and then looks back to Gilliam, as if with regret, and then pulls out his pistol and flips it in his hand, holding it out to Gilliam. "If you think our squad is compromised, then don't be interviewing us unarmed. Hell, even without that thing's strength I could snap you in half, you eggheads must never eat. You know how to use this, right?"

"I spent the first decade of my career on a deep space substation. The muscle never really came back." Gilliam says as he tucks the gun away. "And yes. You can't get security clearance without at least basic weapons training anymore. Can't say I liked it, or that I'm any good, but I know how to not shoot my foot off if that's what you're asking."

"Alright, I'll talk to the captain about those guards." He says, and he walks off.

>Speak with Private Sanders
>Ask for an armed escort to his bunk
>Other (write in)
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>>1462109
Maybe we'll get that upgrade once/if we're able to analyze the Thing or its corpse.
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>>1462120
>Ask for an armed escort to his bunk
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>>1462109
Maybe someday we can make the biological interface produce spores that gather in the lungs that people can hack up.

If those spores can then grow together into drones in someone else's flesh.
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>>1462120
>>Ask for an armed escort to his bunk
>Other (write in)

Inform the captain the squad was allowed to escape and that Sanders was both out of sight of the rest of the squad and has said nothing since the battle.
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>>1462120
>>Speak with Private Sanders
Don't want to tip him off if he's compromised, or cause sanity breaking stress if he isn't.
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>>1462120
>get some men with torches set up
Well hey, don't forget the pitchforks.
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>>1462120
>Ask for an armed escort to his bunk
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>>1462120
>Ask for an armed escort to his bunk
Very discreetly.And make damn sure there is something to get behind.
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>>1462141
>>1462146
We should claim it's a general protocol that nobody goes anywhere alone. We bring two guards, only because one of the guards is planned to stay and use the Buddy System with Sanders.

Or we just make sure we bring Sanders's friends to calm him down.
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>>1462163
Forget claiming, we should officially recommend that nobody goes anywhere alone. If this thing is still stalking people from the vents it could pick off anyone one by one.
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>>1462212
Yes but what if we want Gilliam to do something sneaky in the future?

We'd be having to go to the bathroom in pairs with Palmer and never get away with anything.
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>>1462212
We cant out wait this thing. We need to kill it or otherwise neutralize it before it infects too many of us. Maybe use a guy as a sacrifice ,then when it takes him, the soldiers following him will open up with enough explosives to at least severally weaken it. This thing only has so much biomass so we need to prevent it from getting more.
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>>1462136
That being said if the Thing was smart it would just shed its skin in the air vents and wait for everything to get infected we know how fast a small sample can grow
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What matter is what it is goal and how it will try to achieve it?

I think we can all agree that it wants of of this bunker

But how?

one way is that It may have played with this lot to sneak it self in to grab someone with the codes to unlock this place or send a ok to anyone outside
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>>1462234
>>1462236
I was implying that those procedures would only be needed until this thing is put down. Which ideally would be very soon with kill teams of troopers hunting it, but sending guys anywhere on this base solo will just get them killed and give this thing has new face.
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>>1462271
We dont know how much of the mind the Thing can extract,or how much it can make sense of it,or how it would control an infected person. Lets ask Norris what is the most "hard" room in the facility. If we can lead the thing in their and trap it, then it can buy us time to find out if anyone else is infected.
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>>1462271
To be honest i don't think it needs that it could dig its way out it just needs time
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>>1462277

Ideally we need to seize the lab with masses of drones in hive heavy armor/biohazard equipment. The tricky part will be getting to this without the Union realizing Gilliam is compromised or allowing the Thing to escape...
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>>1462282
The hardest room in the facility is probably the containment lab it already escaped from, with the second hardest being the emergency center we're in now.
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>>1462310
We could claim we hear a drone screaming, ask the Union what's happening in there.
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>>1462310
Eh, remember that the spore doomsday hasn't started yet, once that starts then we can send anything we want here
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>>1462318
I was just hoping for the cliche "broom closet of steel" that would help save the day.
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>>1462320
That would be the best time to invade. When the creep has already eaten half the building.
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>>1462319
That could work. We'd want to make sure we're clear the Thing is not under our control, however. Maybe we can claim the screaming came from the "bodies" of one of our other drones they may have recovered from the wreckage.

>>1462320
We don't know how long that will take, and there's a good chance the Hive will be blamed for the disaster, the odds of us being able to use this to take over the lab are, I suspect, pretty low. Plus planning for the spore disaster we technically know nothing about (horray for crit fails!) is a bit too meta-gamey from my perspective.
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>>1462295
>dig
>through starship grade alloy
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>>1462375
Watch QD pull a fast one and there isn't any disaster to plan for. The disaster is us planning for a disaster that doesn't come. Usurped by our own paranoia.
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>>1462318
We're still in the lab.

its containment was bacteria-proofed not violence-proofed. It was definitely not ultra plasteel.
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>>1462389
Plot twist:
The Thing is long gone into the city above; everything that ends up happening is just the result of rampant paranoia.
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>>1462375
>That could work. We'd want to make sure we're clear the Thing is not under our control, however. Maybe we can claim the screaming came from the "bodies" of one of our other drones they may have recovered from the wreckage.
Or just say we can hear all drones that are loud enough, this one's not one of ours.
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>>1462382
>You'd need a drop suit's powered sword to at least to break through this chestplate like that. I've seen it stand up to a plasma grenade at point blank.
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>>1462408
Plot twist: He is using our ideas to come up with new plans to screw with us. I.E. Changing them if we are getting too close
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>>1462412
One would wonder why a Queen would make an infiltration drone that's "loud."

I suspect it will take the Union some time and a much better understanding of Hive physiology before they start wondering about that, though.
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>>1462375
We actually did cover our ass. We told them to tell us if they had any contaminants and the debris fell all over the city so even if they try to pin it on us they take an even bigger hit for allowing to get so far out of control.
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>>1462424
So..... yeah that major support for the idea it can just dig its way out
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>>1462437
I say let it escape.
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>>1462437
Considering the fact that it can technically make more of itself would mean massive damage to civilian population.
What are the surroundings of the lab? We might have a terror mission on our hands.
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I vote we have Lee wake up Morgan and let him know that we have detected a drone that is not from our Hive in one of the Union cities and that we suspect it is from a bioweapon research facility that was placed into deep freeze to ensure specimen containment. Ask if he would like our discreet assistance in containing the outbreak of the "bipweapon."
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>>1462120
Gilliam looks around for a moment to find one of the guards nearby. He quickly waves down a private looking through the window of the medical bay.

"I need you to come with me, please." He says quickly. "Just down the hall to talk with someone." He looks back to Gilliam with a moment of hesitation.

"Alright." He says. "But you better not be some pod person. This area should be secure enough for you to be in the dorm halls at least."

"I'm actually more worried about Private Sanders." Gilliam says. The man seems to think on that for a moment.

"Yes sir." He says simply. The two make their way down the hall and around the corner to where you saw Sanders go, and Gilliam quickly checks his tablet for a map to the barracks near the end of the hall, and makes his way to the door.

"Hey, this guy's already shaken up, you want me to just wait at the door?" The private asks.

>Yes, wait here and come in if you hear anything
>No, come in and keep watch
>Other
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>>1462450
We dont have the right to do shit about this, this is a union black op on a union core world

So whatever happens is in there hands
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>>1462424
So it's as strong as a hive warrior's blade.

But have those been shown to be capable of cutting through a starship hull or blast doors in the past?
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>>1462450
It's in the middle of a major residential tower complex. Rich people above, poor people below.

>>1462451
Backing
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>>1462457
>>No, come in and keep watch
So Gilliam doesn't get bum-rushed by the thing
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>>1462451
Not really interested in telling them shit yet. Let the cities fucking burn.
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>>1462457
>No, come in and keep watch

>>1462464
Dude no, our warriors blade did shit to lyle dropsuit

This is the equivalent to one of our heavies melee weapons
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>>1462461
I really want to get that tech on our hands though.
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>>1462457
>Yes, wait here and come in if you hear anything
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>>1462457
>In before Sanders!Thing is undisguised on the other side of the door.
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>>1462457
>>No, come in and keep watch
Buddy system at all times.
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>>1462451
Palmer is very certain it is not even a hive drone already. No.
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>>1462482
That was obviously before Lyle's dropsuit was researched and duplicated, duh.
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>>1462457
>No, come in and keep watch
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>>1462482
We attacked Lyle a long time ago and we have gotten at least 2 passive upgrades on our blades
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>>1462483
Wait what?
Do you mean let that tech fall into union hands? or were you saying blood on our hands?

Cause no offense this is not our world, not our people and them dying matters none at all
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>>1462482
We didn't unlock vibroblades when we fought Lyle.
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>>1462489
To be fair, Palmer knows jack-shit about the Hive. If we claim it's a hive drone and that we heard it the Union will be hard-pressed to think the more likely option is that their lead scientist has been turned into a hive sleeper agent.
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>>1462450
We've never seen it reproduce yet. We don't know how long an abandoned skin can remain active, since they've either died or fled.

And anyway, the Thing doesn't know where the fuck it is, either. It's struggling to figure out what direction to flee in and what it will find once it gets out of this enclosed space.
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>>1462496
How do these two things correlate?
Explain to me, how does dropsuit research and duplication make melee attacks of our medium drones strong enough to break through it?
>>1462464
Is strength of our hive warrior's blade comparable to a plasma grenade?

Think a little.
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>>1462502
What I used was a bastardized version of "get hands on something", as in obtain. It's past 6am in here.
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>>1462502
It could prove a major distraction for both us and the Union in the future if the contagion spreads. This is a very heavily populated planet. If the Union and to an extent Anons/the hive is distracted by events here we will be less prepared to fight and repel the OQ. Letting the human cities burn, while tempting, has too many unknowns to be a viable option.

Plus, Theseus and Elizabeth would be mad if we casually condemned billions of humans to death when we could have intervened.
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>>1462482
We unlocked thermal and vibroblades both after looting Lyles gear and ship
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>>1462546
Eliz and Thes wont be mad

When did they become saints who give a shit about this?
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>>1462457
>No, come in and keep watch
>Other
"It will be safer for both of us."
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>>1462559
That sounds fucking creepy to say.
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>>1462457
Make sure to get a look into the room before stepping in and if we step in,stay in the doorway.
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>>1462525
Lyle's combat armor had melee weapons anon.

Though ok technically it was separate from the drop suit reverse engineering.
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>>1461869
awww shit. He 'dropped a finger'.

He just pulled what we pull and dropped a mini monster.
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>>1462457
>No, come in and keep watch
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>>1462546
If we let the cities burn then we're ignoring them and we have virtually infinite actions per day.
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>>1462577
Oh right.
Maybe we should've made it a higher priority to isolate all biological substances/limbs regardless of origin.
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>>1462525
You're 'thinking' about two different things.

The creature survived a plasma grenade. That's a rating of its defense, not its attack. It has nothing to do with how powerful its offensive capability is, which was rated as like one of those powered blades. Not like a grenade.
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>>1462457
>>No, come in and keep watch
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>>1462576
Eh, I suppose I was overly detailed and I did forget that it came with vibroblade research. You're right.

And I suppose heat+shockwave is different from bladed attacks, doubt it could dig through in a feasible timespan.
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>>1462558
Theseus likes and cares for humans, to an extent, in pretty sure he wouldn't be happy about us killing them.

Elizabeth used to be human and sells herself as caring for all life. I think she'd still work with us if we let the humans die, but would not be happy.
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>>1462577
No he didn't.

"Sanders" is one of the few people who didn't lose any fingers.

One is heavily injured, and one actually talks.
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>>1462570
But it's the true. With him inside we have a witness of how things went inside and he isn't alone in a empty hallway just to be ambushed and eaten.
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>>1462558
Elizabeth is a former human the reason she works for us is she sees it as the best way to help humanity in the long run. She can accept us killing humans who are being fucking idiots or attacking us(but I repeat myself),but not us allowing billions of noncombatants to die when we could stop it. Thesues also cares about humanity would be pissed at us to allow this to happen. Our prior interactions and responses to humanity have also shown that getting billions killed for little reason then to "teach them a lesson" does not fit our mentality.
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>>1462603
>in pretty sure he wouldn't be happy about us killing them.
Theseus doesn't hate humans, and knows they created him. That doesn't mean he likes or cares for them, especially since the majority of them want to erase him from existence.

Liz literally helped us spine-buddy her former friends and co-workers, and hates the Union. She'd probably be more upset if we were actively dickbaggy, but she could care less unless we were actively genocidal for no reason.
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>>1462593
Look its simple it makes a drill and just gose through it a stell drill can go through a steel block it just how molecules work inevitably it can dig its way out
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>>1462590
Technically we have infinite actions per day. But realistically, from a quest perspective, there's only so much Anons can focus on per day before the quest slows down too much. And I guarantee that if the Union dissolves into chaos with mass war and biological outbreaks anons WILL want to get involved.
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>>1462610
It can probably hear us you know.

Actually, we could mislead it. It has no idea where it is. If it is learning English as fast as the Thinker did in thread 1.

We could talk about how we have to keep it out of [place easy to trap it in] at all costs where he can hear it.

Maybe it's too late for that plan.
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>>1462457
>>Yes, wait here and come in if you hear anything
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>>1462593
Pretty sure the grenade was referring to the guards' armor. However the point is moot considering that blade'd be better at piercing through that, so the overall level of strength does not need to be the same as a grenade.
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>>1462611
>Our prior interactions and responses to humanity have also shown that getting billions killed for little reason then to "teach them a lesson" does not fit our mentality.

Agreed. We may not be the Gardener, but the Queen cares for all life. The humans as a species should not suffer greatly as a whole for the incompetence of a few of their leaders.
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>>1462603
They literally brought this upon themselves and we could use this sort of planetary extinction level disaster to smooth over the Expanse "negotiations".
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>>1462606
Whoever this one is here>>1461355

>. One of them sits on a bench, his eyes looking out to the rest of the crowd, not focusing. He is missing a finger but doesn't seem to notice, a smartrubber tourniquet stretched over the stump that remains preventing any more bleeding. For a moment you make eye contact, but you are unsure if he even notices. Another squadmate pats his shoulder.
>"He's gonna be alright." Someone says, shaking him lightly. He looks back up blankly. "You still got your finger?" The man looks to his hand, as if just now realizing it is missing, and looks back.
>"It's alright. Digits that that, the augs look just like the real thing." He continues with a forced laugh. The man examines his hand again and seems to crack a smile for a moment when another trooper swings into Gilliam's face from his periphery.


He didn't talk at all. Might be shock, might be a THing.
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>>1462603
>>1462611
One that is bullshit logic about how we are "teaching them a lesson"

They have agency and if there actions fuck up then it is THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO FIX AND CLEAN UP THE MESS not ours

There is no way thes or eliz will blame us for a disaster
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>>1462631
Oh wait right so it did. Wrong pronoun.
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>>1462457
>>No, come in and keep watch
Might offend but never go anywhere without a buddy when the thing is about.
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>>1462457
"Better you come in too, just in case." Gilliam says, the private nods quickly as he opens the door and steps in. The barracks is a long hall lined with bunks set into the walls on either side, between the bunks are rows of lockers holding fatigues and combat skinsuits, each with a name attached. Near the middle are several tables where playing cards are set out, various data tablets, credits, and a small chessboard that seems halfway through a game, along with several beer bottles. Near the end of the barracks is a set of doors, one leading to the showers, the other the bathrooms.

Gilliam walks down the hall of lockers, looking into the alcoves of beds when he hears something near the far end of the room.

"Private Sanders?" He calls out. There is a long silence, and then a pale looking man steps out from behind a set of lockers. Gilliam waves his hand slowly. "I was wondering if you would be willing to talk with me... about what happened." He says. Sanders looks you in the eye, and then the private, and back to Gilliam before he walks forward to the set of tables in the center of the room. Gilliam pulls out a chair and sits as Sanders does the same next to him.

"It's alright, you're safe here." The private says. "And the medics know what they're doing. He's gonna make a full recovery, you saved his ass, man." He continues, and takes a seat across the table.

>Ask him questions (write in)
>Other
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>>1462615
>She'd probably be more upset if we were actively dickbaggy, but she could care less unless we were actively genocidal for no reason.
Really? The logical,but caring Elizabeth would be fine with us one upping Hitler,but would get her panties in a twist if we cackled evilly over Union frequency"s.Elizabeth hates the Union,as in the government idiocy and corruption. Theseus has only killed humans when it would otherwise harm him in the long run,when instead he could have attempted to permanently reduce the Unions military power.
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>>1462687
>>Other
Take out a data tablet. If he's too traumatized to talk, he can type what happened.

Surely.
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>>1462709
Sound good it also works as a test if he can't use it
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>>1462709
>>1462687
Second. Hopefully he doesn't suddenly become very shaky.
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>>1462687
>>Ask him questions (write in)
I need you to tell me what you saw when you first saw that creature. You saw it before everyone else. Its very important. Would you like to type it out?
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Also, the more we and our guard talk in its presence, the more it's learning the language bit by bit.

It will probably be able to speak soon.
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>>1462743
backing, the initial description is what is really key. If it turns out this guy is safe it'll help determine if the other soldier got swapped out
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>>1462752
Its more likely that the attacked soldier is inflected than the one with the lost finger
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>>1462687
>>1462709
Backing. Also, lets ask a question he might not have been able to pick up from just listening to conversation. There is a very good chance this guy is corrupted.
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>>1462687
Also maybe we should examine his smartrubber tourniquet, and then use that as a reason to bring him back for medical exam.

Maybe without using those words in case it learned them. Like with a dog that has to go to the V-E-T.
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>>1462766
I agree. That's why I'm trying to get him talking or typing in my suggestion. We need to figure out if this guy is infected, and even if he returns to "normal" behavior get several guards to discreetly watch him if at all possible.

Frankly, I'm nervous this guy managed to get back to a residential area on his own. Didn't the captain already impose rules that NO ONE is to go anywhere without a buddy even inside "secured" areas?
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>>1462687
"I was told you saw this thing up close." Gilliam says slowly. "Now, I was hoping that maybe you could have seen something. A reaction it gave, some indication of a weak point or sensitive area, some potentially exploitable behavioral quirk, even just a description of it would help." Sanders slowly looks back at the lockers for a moment, and silently looks back to Gilliam, his eyes glancing over the private across the table. Gilliam pulls out his tablet and slides it across the table.

"If you'd like, you can make a sketch of it, or type something out, anything at all." Gilliam says. Sanders looks at the tablet for a moment, and slowly pulls it closer. He runs his hand over the surface as it lights up.

"No."

"What?" Gilliam says, almost shocked at the muttering having been said at all, as opposed to the meaning.

"No." Sanders repeats.

>Insist on your questions and continue asking (write in)
>Gather a blood sample for the medical team
>Speak to him (write in)
>Other
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>>1462766
Not really. It would be a big disadvantage to have someone with severe injuries as your infiltrator, instead of the person with minimal injuries.
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>>1462805
Huh?

GET THE FUCK OUT AND LOCK THE DOOR NOW
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>>1462805
>>Other
Then let's go see your injured friend.

No way will the Thing react well to a sharp object. We daren't do the confrontation here.
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>>1462805
>>1462817
Back away slowly and ask if he wants to see his friend, or maybe the rest of his squad? We can ask for a blood sample when our backup is a bit stronger than one grunt who doesn't even know what the danger is.
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>>1462805
>Well that's rather shameful, We needed your eye witness to be able to defeat the thing.
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>>1462805
>Unholster gun, aim to face.
>Squeeze trigger.

ALTERNATIVELY:

>Okay, sure.
>Leave immediately.
>Lock door.
>ALERT EVERYONE.

Or something else. Anyone else with good ideas? Once we let on we know what's up, this thing is going to try and shred us. We need to get it in a position where it can't react fast enough to MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF BULLETS AND FIRE.
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>>1462805
Oh boy this ain't shock. No sir.

>Other
"Thank him for his time. Close the door and call Norris ASAP"
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>>1462827
Well we can't let it out of our sight either. We can't leave it.

We have to take it with us.
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>>1462805
If we ask for blood sample, hes gonna flip his shit.
Ask him a different question and if he still dosnt give us an answer, tell him to get some rest and calmly get the fuck out.
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>>1462805
>>Speak to him (write in)
Why not?
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>>1462836
I agree with you. We should ask it to come with us to a public area while slowly getting out of stabbing range.

Sorry if it wasn't clear I was supporting your position.

If he doesn't want to come with us we call Norris and have him get a strike team together to take this guy down.
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>>1462832
It would probably survive bullets.

>>1462805
Actually uh. Let's go get something to eat and see your friend.

Food always helps you feel better, Mother always said.

Think must like food.
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>>1462836
Do you really want to confront a thing that can cut through armor with only one private with us for backup?
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>>1462864
We can't confront it here, but we can't let it do whatever it does when it's alone either.

So ideally we lure it. Nonthreateningly.
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>>1462827
>>1462836
Good point, I'll switch to back this. Escort him out claiming we're taking him to see his mates, and have them meet us at a medical station where we can restrain and test him. Or shoot the shit out of him, when he tries to make a run for it.
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>>1462846
This, one more question and get get the heck out.

Also..the glance towards the lockers was humanlike, but we should tell troopers to check those lockers out too.
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>>1462805

>>1462827
>>1462836
Seconding a helpful mix of these.
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>>1462876
Good thinking.
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>>1462805
>guy is traumatized
>i.e. an excuse for not speaking much, behaving oddly, and spontaneously refusing to cooperate
Awfully convenient, if inconclusive.

Play it diplomatically though, don't risk spooking him or pissing off our guards by pressing hard without proof. Lure him to medical, then insist on a blood sample there.
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>>1462876
This too; see about investigating the lockers.
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>>1462892

Sounds good.
If he refuses to come to medical, then we "know" something is up. Quietly get out, and insist Norris get a strike team together ASAP to carry this guy to the med bay by force or (more likely) purge with fire. Norris is (luckily) the last person on the base who will accuse us of excessive paranoia.
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>>1462876
Absolutely.
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>>1462876
He could be just checking if he got the right closet you know? If he was in the wrong room his cover would be blowed.
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So this thing soaks up anti personnel rounds and explosives and thermal lances by the bucketful, but a combat knife in the side makes it drop its prey?

Yeah, no. Either it left a present with one or both of the two soldiers, or Sanders hit the proverbial jackpot in its mutable biology, andI know where im putting my money.
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>>1462876
But only talk about lockers once outside the Thing's presence. What if it knows the word "locker"?

Or send an email about it discreetly.
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>>1462923
It could have been creating an alibi with one of its skins, making us believe that it was still out there instead of already infiltrated into the ranks in an earlier incident.
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>>1462954
My wager is that the real private sanders is folded up in that locker.
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>>1462967
But surely the real Sanders' face is being worn by the Thing right now, and the extraneous body parts are stuffed in a distant air vent.
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When shit hits the fan,we should try to use our thinkers to help give Gilliam something like "slo-mo vision" by using their computing power to free up Gilliam's brain for a better reaction time.
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>>1462805
Gilliam slowly gets up from his seat.

"Well, how about we go see your squadmate." Gilliam says. "Maybe get you some food and visit him for a bit. He's set to make a full recovery so he should be doing much better by now."

"Why?" He asks as he glances away towards the lockers. He shifts his weight in his chair and leans back. His jaw tenses, as if chewing something.

"Well I figured you'd be hungry. May as well get something to eat." Gilliam says. Sanders looks back, glancing over the private as he looks to Gilliam.

"You're in charge." He says, there is a noticeable accent. A slight talgoan drall that wasn't there a moment ago, about as strong as the Private's own accent. "Right?"

>Yes, let's go get food
>No, I'll be leaving
>Ask other (write in)
>Speak with the private (write in)
>Other (write in)
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>>1462967
MIne is that Sanders is the one in the medbay.
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>>1462988
Can't our parasite give him damn good reaction times on its own? By just pushing them to his near human limit etc.
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>>1462993
If we're in charge, it will be jealous of our skin...

if we're not, it won't have to listen to us.
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>Sanders looks you in the eye
>you

That's not a typo
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>>1462993
Oh boy definetly a infiltrator...and fuck this thing learns way to fast...
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>>1462993
>No, I'll be leaving
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>>1462967
I'm half considering that this incident could be a red herring by QD meant to damage our credibility and get us uncertain about what's going on.

>>1462993
>Speak with a guard
See about getting that locker investigated. Quietly if possible.

There are red flags cropping up left and right here, but nothing definitive.
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>>1463017
f we say yes the thing will start to target Giliam it would be like putting a target in our agents back.
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>>1462993
>>Other (write in)
Wait...

we have a test for this.

Can't we check if we feel any mental signal of a living mind when attempting psionic communication?

It's actually gratuitous now, since we already know the answer. But I wonder.

Though maybe we shouldn't do it while it's still with Gilliam in case it can sense it somehow and suspects him.
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>too scared to pick an option

>>1463062
S-second?
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>>1462993
>No, I'll be leaving
You know what, if you're not hungry, that's fine. You don't need to leave on my account just because I'm "in charge." Make yourself comfortable and we can talk again later.

When we get out immediately radio the captain that the "Thing" is currently wearing the skin of Sanders and is near the lockers. We need heavy firepower immediately to attempt to contain it.

>>1463019
Fuck.
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>>1463049
You may be the most trusting human being in existence.

People dont drop accents accidentally, its their learned speech default. Despite traumatizing himself to save the other guy, he has no reaction, physical or emotional to his state.

This dude aint Sanders.
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>>1463062
Backing this too, once Gilliam is at a "safe" distance.

Frankly, we should have scanned everyone from the injured team the second they arrived back at base. It just slipped our collective minds.
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>>1463081
>drop accents

This is more like the opposite of dropping it.

Since The Thing copied the accent of the private, our bodyguard.
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The THING is learning quickly, and its trying to locate the leadership

We need to get out NOW unless we want Gillian dead
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>>1463107
Agreed, we need to gtfo. Frankly, as soon as we were suspicious we should have radioed the captain and said we had suspicions about "Sanders." We could be in for a world of hurt, but we need to escape in order to survive.
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>>1462993
initiate casual conversation about sportsball and other things a 10,000 year old bug wouldn't know
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>>1462993
Supporting this with the added write-in
>>1463077
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>No, I'll be leaving

Set up an trap for it...lets see if it bites.
>Would you rather speak with (insert military title of Norris here) as he is in charge? I can sent him here.

We get our agent out and call all the backup we can
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>>1463124
DO YOU LIKE THE SPORTS HUMAN? I TOO AM HUMAN AND VERY MUCH ENJOY THAT GAME WITH THE BALL. IT IS VERY AMUSING.
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>>1463139
That's pretty smart. Baiting a private conversation with greater leadership, and it'll make enough sense to our guard so he unintentionally tip off this thing.
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>>1463139
No,no anon. If this thing has some kind of colective intelligence or it escapes the trap by splitting itself it will know who is in charge and try to replicate him.
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>>1463151
>so he won't* unintentionally tip off this thing.
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>>1463139
Alternatively, we could claim Lieutenant Arnell is in charge, since he's more expendable and this thing might try again later.

Actually, we could say. "No, I'm not in charge. But the man in charge does want to see you at X location, and the mess hall isn't far from there."
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>>1463139
Clever bastard, i like it.
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>>1463155
The odds of this "Thing" having collective intelligence we cannot detect is very low, but the possibility cannot be ruled out. It may be able to communicate with other "Thing" instances physically, but we would detect anything using tachyons or radio.
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>>1463155
Don't forget this thing has enough bio-mass to replicate at least two humans. It's using this "replicant" to scout for the leadership so it can mimic Norris and fuck with our shit. Not name dropping who is/can be i charge.

Glad this thing can't have the humans memories or it would have questioned Giliam leadership status.
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"Can you believe AUTHORITY FIGURE won't let us out until this Thing is dead? We're trapped in here like rats until AUTHORITY FIGURE is satisfied. That bastard is always hiding in his PRIVATE OFFICE. I'm so jealous."
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>>1463139
That's smart. I hope it isn't too late to do something like this.
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>>1463172
I agree but if it can split itself and escape we should try not giving this thing intel about who can command the facility to release the lockdown or who can send people to point A to point B.
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>>1462993
>>1463139
I'll back this
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>>1463139
>>1463192
Backing these, lets set up a trap for him to get into or come back with a firing squad.
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Wait a second. The reason it didn't use the pad is because it has no understanding of written language yet.
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>>1463214
We'd need details.

"Oh, and THE CAPTAIN wants to see you when you're ready for a fuller DEBRIEFING. Man that hardass is always GIVING ORDERS even though he's NEW TO BEING IN CHARGE AND NOBODY KNOWS HIM PERSONALLY."

We need to specify a location that is very easy to trap it in for an ambush though.

Something with blast doors and shit and no vents.

And a cryo-machine setup?
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>>1463229
No, it cause it didn't want to explain any weakness about itself
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>>1463242
It looks like a case of it not being able to write even if it wanted to, which it obviously did not.
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>>1463238
Wait not debriefing. It only makes sense to single Sanders out for a reward ceremony for his incredible bravery.
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>>1463242
Are you saying it's not smart enough to lie?
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>>1463238
We can only set up a trap when we bring other humans (like the captain) on board. Otherwise, if we try to spring our devious trap, it'll just be us against the Thing and we might look crazy.

Also, the mention of the captain should wait until the accompanying guard is "in" on what the Thing is. Otherwise he will look at us very strangely when we try to entice the Thing into a trap and could spoil the whole game.
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>>1463286
Yeah. It will take time.

Time in which we can only watch Sanders. Make sure he's not alone in the barracks. Until it's time to spring it.

Are there no cameras in these rooms?
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>>1463277
It was still trying figure out how human communication works as we can see from copying our bodyguards accent

It was a sloppy mistake on its part
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>>1463286
Wait can we connect to the others via data pad.
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>>1463277
Maybe it's smart enough to understand what isn't a believable lie, but not smart enough to make an excuse for it like shock tremors. Simply, it's intelligent, but ignorant. And it's changing the latter.
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>>1463229
Wow anon. Maybe you should go get some sleep.
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>>1462993
"Oh, no, that's fine. If you're not hungry we can just go and talk some other time perhaps." Gilliam says.

"You were in the containment area." Sanders says simply. "You know."

Gilliam takes several slow steps back as your parasite calms his pulse.

"Na, I... uh, just stuck in here like everyone else. You know, until the captain says we can leave and that alien is taken care of."

"The alien, yes." He replies. "We need to get out." He taps his knuckles against the table with a quick smile. "Reinforced walls, even thicker outside. You should feel safe here."

>Have Gilliam attempt to lure Sanders outside
>Have Gilliam flee the barracks
>Other
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>>1463315
Well if it was a hive mind it would have no problem inventing a lie.
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>>1463315
That or it thinks its dealing with dome form of hive life and is trying to mimic the warrior cast way of speaking
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>>1463336
Fuck this thing is sloppy at infiltrating
>Have Gilliam flee the barracks
GET THE FUCK OUT
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>>1463337
Not one that been frozen and just woke up after fuck knows how much time and just meet a new alien species
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>>1463336
>Have Gilliam flee the barracks
"Casually"...
Then come back with a fire team and burn this "Thing" back to hell.
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>>1463336
>even thicker outside
>thicker outside
>outside

Okay NOW i'm worried it has broked out of the quarantine.
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>>1463336
"Reinforced walls don't count for much when this thing is using the vents. You rest up for now, we'll talk later."
>>Have Gilliam flee the barracks
When he's outside he can call for backup.
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>>1463365
We can still lure it to a better place than the barracks it's holing up in.

But we need to coordinate with the Captain first on the plan.
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>>1463369
That means it tried to hack at the outer walls, the starship alloy ones, and found them even stronger than the inner walls.

That it's still here is proof it didn't break out successfully.
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>>1463336
Definetly this:
>>1463365
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>>1463369
I think hope it just means the starship grade plating protecting the outside of the lab. It said "we need to get out," something it would not have said if it had already escaped.
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>>1463336
>>Have Gilliam flee the barracks
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>>1463383
That is true. I should get better at my english.
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>>1463399
The alien is speaking weird and bad English so it's confusing and using words slightly wrong.
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>>1463378
Or we could be crazy and try to learn something from it we could say
"Yes its very safe why would we ever want to leave" its not very good at hiding its thoughts so we might get something from it
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>>1463336
This may be its first time infiltrating a advance non hive life civilization
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>>1463336
"Well." Gilliam says as he backs away. "We should be going I think." He turns across the table to look to the private, who seems somewhat confused at the whole conversation as he spits out the wad of gum he was chewing and sticks it into an ash tray.

"Alright then." He says as he scoots his chair back.

"No." Sanders says, and the private snaps at something with his foot, kicking the table.

"Goddamnit! Somethin' bit me what the fuck!"

Please roll 1d100, best of 3.
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brushie brushie
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>>1463417
Unconvincing.
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>>1463417
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>>1463417
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>>1463417
for mother
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>>1463417
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>>1463417
Fuck! We should had ran out of here earlier and got backup!

Mother save us!
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>>1463417
For Mother!
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>>1463427
Please be good enough...
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>>1463417
Oh shit, something small and finger-sized got in here! Let's escape together, Sanders, who it is no doubt also targeting!
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>>1463442
Oh shit, could it be something from the lockers... Fuck.
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>>1463453
A trap he was going to spring on us if only we'd sat still longer.

Or, when he said 'No', he wasn't addressing our leaving, and his little buddy was attacking independently and going against orders. That's a remote possibility.
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>>1463427
I think we're gonna be okay.
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>>1463417
Ah shit. At least the roll is good.
Let's hope Gilliam is quick on his radio game.

>>1463422
I understand this reference.
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>>1463442
>>1463453
Or, it could be the human shaped thing extending a tendril from his legs underneath the table.
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>>1463481
Yeah that's more likely really.
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Shit. Can anybody hear the screaming?

If the private dies, and we end up 1-on-1 with the monster. Could we pretend to go Quisling, trying to sell it the knowledge it doesn't have, that it needs if it wants any hope of escape?

From a certain point of view it's just killing its evil alien jailers.
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>>1463553
We have our pistol, we can shoot at it.

Honestly, if it comes to diplomacy, maybe we can say we know the "hive", the aliens that captured it originally, and that if they kill Gilliam they'll glass the whole building. It's possible the Thing will listen to reason.

This is a terrible idea
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>>1463417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM3TzZRkWjE

"Jesus! Jesus christ!" The private stammers as he shuffles his feet and drops back in his seat, snapping it to pieces as he falls back. A log of flesh, roughly the length of a human shin, but splayed out on one side like the body of a centipede quickly lunges up and crawls on top of him. Blood trickles down the Private's own leg as pincers of what look like bone snap out from its red, fleshy looking face, slicing into the man's arms as he tries to hold it away.

Gilliam dashes around the table as Sanders quickly rises up, several feet higher than he was a moment ago, and Gilliam lunges at the door as he dashes over the centipede, and the table crashes over him, narrowly missing the back of his head as your parasite whips his body into a tight roll to avoid it. He scrambles to get himself up, turning to see the leg centipede's maw deep in the Private's throat. He crawls for the door, sprinting on all fours as he tries to stand up mid-run, and something sends him back to the ground. He rolls over part way to see a human hand, extended from the end of some unfolding, segmented arm like the cargo crane of a spacecraft outstretched across the room to his ankle, and he screams in a sudden panic as he sees Sanders himself. He has one leg, which is disfigured and bent in too many places, while the other ends at the knee, but snaps with a loud, wet crack as the thigh splits open into another thin, twisting claw hanging in the air as his torso swings from the ceiling by a set of six elongated legs ending in hook-like claws sprouting from his back and made of what look almost like ribs. They quickly begin clattering across the wiring spread along the ceiling.

Gilliam catches the glimmer of the reflection of his tablet in the shattered rubble of the table beside him, just a few feet away, and his thigh feels the uncomfortable sting of his pistol digging into his side against the floor.

>Shoot it
>Call for help with the tablet
>Other (write in)
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>>1463576
It is a terrible idea. But this thing doesn't die when it is killed with bullets so that's just as futile as shooting Superman.
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>>1463585

1.>Shoot it
2.>Call for help with the tablet

Let the Dice gods choose
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>>1463585
This was a reference to the new thing movie?
Sander Thing and none of us caught it

Fuck i feel ashamed
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>>1463585
>>Shoot it
Wow, that song title sure is fitting.
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>>1463585
>>Call for help with the tablet
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>>1463585
Others need to know it's here.
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>>1463607
People have been shooting at this thing for a long time.

It has never, ever worked so far.

Also, since it speaks Esperanto now, I guess we can ask it. "Goddammit, why are you doing this?"
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>>1463590
Of course not, but it can drive it back for long enough for Gil to make a run for the door. I'd say he's got better chances then trying to make a phone call while that thing is trying to rip his throat out.
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>>1463585
>Call for help with the tablet
What the fuck is shooting it going to do when we've seen it tank heavy ordinance?
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>>1463585
>>Call for help with the tablet
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>>1463585
>Call for help with the tablet
If we remember the very helpfull squad leader said it could shrug of bullets so our pistol won't work on it. We need Norris and a team equiped with flamethrowers.
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>>1463585
>Call for help with the tablet
These seem exclusive so I suppose we couldn't try shooting it's grip on us first? Because it seems smart to target it where it's gripped us first.
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>>1463625
Because Gil is on his back, and it's not like that thing is going to politely sit there and wait for him to make the call. It'll kill him before he can finish dialing.
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>>1463601
Leating a chaotic entity make a choice in a two way choice.
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>>1463585
>Shoot it
The tablet would take too long. With any luck the noise of the gunshots should hopefully alert somebody if they didn't hear the scream.

Try to shoot the arm that is holding our ankle. We have no chance whatsoever of killing this thing, but if we can disable the thing keeping us from reaching the door we may have a sliver of a chance of making it out of this alive.

Also
>Other (write in)
Prime the acid glands on the parasite. We probably won't make it out of this alive.
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>>1463652
This might be a bit wrong to say, but can't the parasite survive this even if Gilliam doesn't?
We just have to leave his body.

Obvious problem being is the thing gets Gilliam, which is fission mailed on ten levels for the next three sundays.
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>>1463585
>Shoot it
Shoot the arm off and try to escape.
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>>1463641
Dice have spoken and that alright with me
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>>1463585
>Call for help with the tablet

Gilliam stretches his arm out, his fingers sliding across the tablet's edge as he slowly inches it into his hand.

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>>1463585
>>Shoot it
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>>1463664
If the Thing tries to absorb Gilliam (which it WILL do since Gilliam is a leader) it will notice the parasite. I would much rather have any of our drones dissolve into goo than allow the Thing to get its hands on any of them, let alone a parasite.
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>>1463668
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>>1463668
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>>1463668
For mother
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>>1463668
>>>
For mother!
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>>1463637
Problem is we know for a fact that shooting it will do jack and shit to it, unless it suddenly developed a weakness where none existed before.

This is a question of what might actually save Gilliam.
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>>1463674
I meant our parasite leaving Gilliam's body, ofc. Not the thing's.

Also, oh shit, these rolls are average.
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>>1463677
>>1463682
>>1463683
Gilliam is dead.
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>>1463677
>>1463682
>>1463683
Welp...
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>>1463677
>>1463682
>>1463683
Finally, we can fucking call in the big guns and deal with this. And now that Gilliam is totes magotes dead we can focus on more important matters.
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>>1463695
It happens

Cant win every-time and gil is at least not vital
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>>1463677
>>1463682
>>1463683
Rest in peperoni, Gilliam.
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Welp, we could..try to bargain with it. Straight up tell it that the hive will glass the planet, rather than let it escape, if it won't back down.
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>>1463706
Well now we can try to parasite the thing
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>>1463713
Problem is I don't really care if it escapes.
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>>1463716
I think that would be very seriously not the best course of action.
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Now that Gilliam is dead, perhaps we should request the chance to intervene? Gilliam probably didn't get a warning off, So if we don't move in very soon it is likely the Thing will be unleashed into a major Urban center shortly, possibly within minutes if it is able to get to the captain.
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>>1463716
We have a few poisons we have tried yet.
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>>1463716
I'd much rather just pop the parasite to keep it from getting Hive tech.
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>>1463716
This Thing is a hive predator. It is very unlikely our parasite will work on it. It's possible, but I think it would be must less risky to just detonate the parasite here and send in the big guns ASAP
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>>1463726
I see little wrong with any of that.
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>>1463585
HOLY FUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>1463695
Well, there's hope... how high can the DC be to make a phone call.
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>>1463704
The thing is, he's our only source of intel on this situation. Once he's dead we'll have no idea what's going on in this lab or if this thing has escaped.

And while it would be funny to see the Union spill their spaghetti everywhere as they unleash yet another ancient alien weapon on a major core world, this thing has a genetic record of every specie it ever nommed, including the phantoms and multiple castes of drones. It wouldn't do to let these idiots in the Union get their hands on that sort of information.
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>>1463742
Actually it's not. It's a general enemy of sentients.
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>>1463748
Well let's see you make a collect call when you're being dragged into the maw of a budding cosmic horror.
Maybe our parasite helped calm him and give him enough time but I wouldn't bet on him surviving.
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>>1463716
We haven't even studied its biology to enable neural interface. It may not even be carbon-based since we can't sense its mind.

...However, simultaneously with this, we have an expedition of hybrids that might smoke out another of these things, and research and capture that, which might help with this attempt if they get it done by 'now'.
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>>1463761
It eats everything

Not really picky
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>All these anon's thinking Gilliam is dead.

Most likely Gil will loose a limb and have a new shiny one. Or we can make our parasite grow a new one.
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>>1463726
>request the chance to intervene
Fuck requests, I say we just move on it. We gave the Union one rule. One simple, single rule to follow if we were to take them seriously.

Do not fuck with ancient alien artifacts from the expanse.

And what do they do? They dig up an ancient shape shifting bio weapon and let it wreck havoc. If we were less forgiving this could be a causus belli for war.
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>>1463761
That's baseless speculation.

It mimics hive drones, which suggests it has somehow hidden itself inside hives before, and has millennia-old disguises inside it.

And it kills humans that try to keep it locked up as their prisoner.

That's pretty much all we know.
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>>1463704
I'm not actually giving an opinion on anything, I just wanted to say I liked the usage of the phrase 'totes magotes' and I will probably be using that myself from now on.
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>>1463753
>Pull out the big guns and deal with this
IDGAF if this thing ate a grey queen drone 20 thousand years ago. Its going to be hot ashe s and plasma fumes in the time it takes a fleet to blink in, which is really damn fast.
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>>1463768
Or we could use this attempt to help with latter attempts in any case getting what data we can before our drone explodes is good
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>>1463726
Agreed. We need to get the big guns into there asap.

Call up the Union and tell them we've detected the release of a major bioweapon we flash-froze a planet to contain (it's sort of true). Tell them we will need to land drones immediately to contain the situation or we will be forced to glass most of the area around the facility in order to prevent an outbreak that could kill billions.
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>>1463791
That's just baseless speculation anon.
We literally saw it had 6 different species inside most from sentients.
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>>1463808
Replace "billions" with "biospheres" if they don't get the point.
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>>1463787
I'm fine with that. We can move in now and answer questions later. It's better to ask forgiveness than permission and all that. But we can at least still alert the Union as to why we are intervening now so that the population doesn't just all go "Bug are invading! Space War now!"
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>>1463808
Calm down
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>>1463805
The other attempts don't matter nearly as much as this one.

The other attempts, we can just kill the thing or capture it alive. We have the firepower there.

Here, we lack the firepower to do either of those things, with just Gilliam and a parasite. Here, the only chance of domination would be if we already had researched it elsewhere, since we can't properly research it here.
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>>1463808
>tell them we've detected the release of a major bioweapon

Gonna need a bit of a better excuse to land an invasion fleet on a Union planet.
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I wonder what the things end game is..does it just try to survive or does it always aim to take out the leadership..will we see the thing killing Unions leaders?
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>>1463824
The cities can burn for all I care. The more damage done the better.
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If Gilliam survives, maybe we should have him suggest 'contacting' the Hive.
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>>1463829
We don't need a full invasion fleet. A handful of corvettes will probably be enough to cut through the starship plating and flood the facility.

As to excuse, we can say that we told them one thing - to not fuck with artifacts from the expanse as they are dangerous war relics, and they did so anyway. We are intervening now to prevent another extinction level event like we intervened on Nowhere.

We don't need to explain ourselves beyond that. And the higher-ups will know we are right.

Hell, they may want to hush the whole thing up. Researching ancient alien bio-weapons in an urban environment is the kind of thing that is unpopular with the voting public.

>>1463840
Anon, I know you don't care about the Union, but most of the people in this quest care about humanity and we have a tradition of benevolent intervention.
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>increase the "surveing fleet" over Djinn
>send one cruiser and four corvettes from our "escort fleet"
>tell the Union we scanned the planet and saw it was missing a very dangerous weapon
>ask if they know were it is

If they say they don'tĺ know we can always save face from any bad PR.
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>>1463842
If Gilliam is guaranteed to die or gets puts into a worse situation than this maybe have him contact the Hive outside of their established protocols, somehow. Anything to give us sufficient reason.

>>1463859
That's pretty crafty.
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>>1463840
This.
The only thing i'm worried abut is it spreading to other worlds.
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>>1463842
I mean we tried that before, but as it gets more dire maybe they'll let us pass along a question to the bureaucrats on Gemini asking about this Thing's weaknesses.

The trouble is we don't actually know any.
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>>1463856
You really don't understand. This is the sort of fuck up we need force the reclamation of the Expanse. The lives lost will cement the everyone should listen to us.
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>get home
>HQQ is up
Muh dick
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>>1463870
Which WILL happen. This is one of the most populated human planets in existence. There is no travel ban. Unless we plan on shooting down every single ship attempting to break quarantine (which would cause the Union to war us), we must assume the Thing will get to every human and Valen planet if we do not intervene decisively.
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>>1463871
>"We know you can stop it if you freeze the world. Would you like the Hive to facilitate rapid terraforming of the infected area?"

I mean, the example of what was done in the past to stop it is there. We don't need to pretend we have a better solution thousands of years later in the now.
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>>1463859
This might work, especially in conjuction with how they have to have received the recommendation about the danger of continuing operations on Djin by now.

Also, I imagine that alerting them to the possibility will be enough for them to attempt to clean it up themselves before it causes a catastrophe and people start wondering if the Hive had a point about their government fucking with things they don't understand.
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>>1463668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6f45mmOiiw

Gilliam pulls at the tablet as his fingernails dig into its case, dragging it across the room as he slides back by the ankle. He pulls at the device, ripping a nail from his finger as he claws at the reinforced casing in raw panic, until he pulls it into his grip, tightening his fingers around it like a life raft. His finger rubs against the screen, pressing whatever he can find as he slaps at the emergency call. He brings his hand down towards it, but before he can see if it has gone through something whips him up from the floor. A thin tendril tightens around his neck, pulling him in as the clawed legs grip his arms and hoist him into the air. There is a sharp pain in the back of his neck, a burning like a hot needle driving into his skull as he hears a wet sucking noise and feels the trickle of blood run down his shoulder, and then there is something else.

The room begins to darken, the walls growing distant and foggy, and he is alone with his thoughts. With you, and another voice. Far off in the darkness.

W̛̕h̀a̶͟t̴ ͢y̕ó̶̢ų͜ ̢k̢̡͢no͘͡w̧,̨́ ͘w̷e w͢i̡͡l̵̴͞l̸̶͟ k̸͘͠n͝ow̴.̸

You can feel it growing closer, larger, more clear and ever present.

You will give us your thoughts

Gilliam's mind collapses, like a book left open on a table. You have flipped through minds like this before, helpless and free flowing, but your mind is far greater. His thoughts gravitate to you, like a moon orbiting its world, his thoughts flickering in the light of your vast consciousness as it flees from the encroaching darkness, and the thing within.

We sense another.

You can see the source of the thoughts now as the connection becomes more clear. Like the glow of a distant lantern through a dense fog. It seems to hesitate at the edges of your mind.

>Reach out through the connection and enter its mind
>Seal the connection and drive it out
>Speak with it (write in)
>Other (write in)
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>>1463895
>Reach out through the connection and enter its mind
PSYCHIC FIGHT!
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>>1463895
>>Reach out through the connection and enter its mind
TEAR THAT FUCKERS MIND ASUNDER.

Go full psyker on it's ass.
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>>1463895
>Reach out through the connection and enter its mind
Ohboyherewego.jpg
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>>1463895
>>Reach out through the connection and enter its mind
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>>1463895
Is is is that the necromorphs moons?

!!!!!!FUCKUS!!!!!!
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>>1463895
>>Seal the connection and drive it out
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>>1463895
>Reach out through the connection and enter its mind
BITCH WE JUST COMPLETED THIS RESEARCH

YOU PICKED THE WRONG MIND TO FUCK TODAY
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>>1463895
>this whole post
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>>1463895
>>Speak with it (write in)
Oh, I have company. Hello child. Welcome to the neighborhood.
And then
>>1463902

"THESE ARE MY MONKEYS ASSHOLE"
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>1463895
>Reach out through the connection and enter its mind

It wants thought, let's see how it like billions of years of experience per second from all the active drones.
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>>1463895
Oh shiiiit, if the call went through.

And someone is coming to help.

They might see that the Thing had touched Gilliam in his no-no spine, and fear he is infected, and subject him to medical scan.
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>>1463895
>>Reach out through the connection and enter its mind
This thing ain't void. We can take it. Psychic dick fight go.

have our parasite fill with acid. If it slices our parasite in half or we lose the connection I don't want there to be any remains for the Thing to dissect.
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>>1463895
>Reach out through the connection and enter its mind

Another wayward child, lost in the dark?

Mother will care for you.
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>>1463895
>>Seal the connection and drive it out
Psionic connections are a two way street in this quest, and when we try to read the mind of another it can read ours in turn. Not worth the risk.
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>>1463895
>Reach out through the connection and enter its mind

Hello void gods/auntie.
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>>1463895
>Reach out through the connection and enter its mind
Time for a mind rape contest.
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>>1463895
>[b]w̷e[/b]
>[b]us[/b]
>[b]We[/b]

Collective confirmed.
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>>1463930
We can blow the parasite if necessary. Or even shut the relays of our cloaked pods if necessary.
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>>1463895
>Reach out through the connection and enter its mind
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>>1463895
>psychic fight
Gilliam is ours, and the Things will pay for their trespass. We have a lot more mind dakka at our disposal than the Things do.
And if all else fails we simply detonate Gilliam's parasite.
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>>1463895
>>Reach out through the connection and enter its mind
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>>1463895
>Reach out through the connection and enter its mind

Please roll 1d100, best of 3.
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>>1463947
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>>1463947
FORMOTHER!
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Rolled 72 (1d100)

>>1463947
FOR MOTHER!
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>>1463947
FOR MOTHER!
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>>1463947
>>1463948
I.. What?
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>>1463948
Well shit
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>>1463936
>Or even shut the relays of our cloaked pods if necessary.
No we cannot. We can no more 'shut down' an advanced relay than you can shut down your own eyeballs. The connection to the rest of the hive is permanent and constant until it is physically destroyed, which is the reason psionic jamming can affect an entire hive at once.
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>>1463948
We win guys.
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ahahahahahahahahahahahahahha
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>>1463947
For mother
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>>1463948
Happy Mother's Day.
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>>1463948
"Hello, friend. We should talk."
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>>1463948
FOR MOTHER!!!
PRAISE THE DICE

DID WE JUST TRADE GILLIAN FOR A NEW MINION?
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>>1463948
HAHA

FUCK MAN
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>>1463948
HOLY SHIT
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>>1463948
Who's the superior race? We are.
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>>1463958
Don't you remember that we shut down all but one of our relays at Nowhere? We've already shut them down before. Not that it matters anyway at this point.

>>1463948
Fuck yeah!
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>>1463948
Look at me.

I am the infiltrator now.

We can do more than information gathering, we can probably dominate the parts of its body that are carbon-based.

If it has a silicon core though, that core can flee and abandon the rest of its body.

Either way it will probably flee, and we'll have some 'splaining to do as to why it would flee like that...
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>>1463948
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>>1463895
Relevant
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>>1463947
>>1463948
Looks like we're the horrifying eldritch abomination now, QD.

Mothers back, baby.
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>>1463935
That's because it makes more of itself, and presumably has its own network. So far we're looking at two, soon to be three with newly infected private.
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>>1463948
OMEGA MINDCRUSH
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>>1463974
I assumed that by 'shut down' QD meant that were removed from the system. He's been pretty clear about this in the past, probably because he doesn't want us gaming our way out of the danger psionic jamming presents to the hive as a whole.
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>>1463948
KNEEL BEFORE YOUR QUEEN.
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HAPPY FUCKING MOTHER'S DAY

THANK YOU FOR THE LOVELY PRESENT
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>>1463948
WE SHALL CRUSH ALL WITH OR MIND!
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>>1463948
Fuckin' hell dude
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>>1463985
No I think by shut down he meant 'shut down.'

Drones can go into hibernation, and relays are drones, so maybe it's that. A process that's slow to reverse.
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No seriously though, can you imagine this things "WTF" face right now?

Like fuck it probably thought it was smooth sailing from here.
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>The target is incapable of any action, mental or otherwise as their mind is mentally probed. The target can attempt to resist the initial attempt, and there is a chance they may hold some memory of the event itself, although a successful reading will be perceived as a momentary time lapse accompanying a felling of Déjà vu.

Imagine Norris and a squad comming and watch the mutated private paralized as it holds Gilliam by the neck!

Hahahahahaha i love this guest!!
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>>1463998
>THERE ARE ALWAYS THINGS BIGGER THAN YOU JACK!
>THAT IS THE FIRST LESSON I EVER LEARNED WHEN I WAS BORN.
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>>1463996
I agree. I believe the wording was we would "shut down" the relays on all our ships except the flagship in that engagement. We didn't blink out all but one of our ships (and all our ships have relays).

I believe advanced relays can be dangerous because even when inactive they can be reconnected to the Hive network if recovered by an enemy.
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>>1463948
>us right now
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Rolled 99 (1d100)

>>1463948
Foolish meat monster. We are the real monsters here.
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>>1464009
>99
Is this a countdown now?
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>>1464009
Wew.
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>>1464009
lol.
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>>1464009
>Rolled 99 (1d100)

W-What?
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>>1464009
Im not sure to praise you or hate you for that roll

It will depend on what we roll next time dice is required
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>>1464009
Let's make as many important rolls tonight as we can.

It is evidently the time for it.
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>>1463967
And yes, we HAVE to lead off with this. Or something like it.
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>>1463948
>>1464009

Happy Mother's Day everyone!
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>>1464000
When they do, have Gilliam mutter a 'release me' and force the abomination to drop him.
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awesome
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Reminder that we have accessed psionic powers unheard of since the time before our Mother fled to this sector.
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Oh, wait, I got it.

>We sense another.

"Yes. Yes you do."
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>>1464024
Is that an Independence Day reference.
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>>1464030
Reminder that this creature and the hive it was found in predates our Mother's flight to this sector
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>>1464036
Maybe.
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For glory of the 100 I made better pic with my masterfull paint skills
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>>1464003
I don't think all of our ships actually have advanced relays. Back before QD switched to the new system, the number of advanced relays active were far, far less than the number of ships, and the cost of the advanced relay was never included in the price or upkeep of the ships themselves. Instead, the number of relays roughly matched the number of FLEETS we had flying around.

I get the impression QD simply assigns a relay to each individual fleet, which keeps contact with each constituent ship like a proper hivemind. There isn't really any need to place one on every ship if most of those ships never leave the fleet they're assigned to, which is how the hive has always operated, but would drive up the cost of managing our ships massively. The spy pods monitoring individual systems obviously carry one, but anything that moves as a part of a larger formation can afford to go without. Every ship remains in constant communication with the hive without the huge cost increase.
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>>1464050
That's beautifull anon.
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>>1464050
Have you ever heard of anti aliasing?
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>>1464050
It's good but the black needs work.
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>>1464060
We have advanced relays as standard equipment on our sneeky pods that we use for exploration/spying.

But not on all ships, no.
I thiink we do have more than one relay per fleet though, to avoid getting sniped and losing control. Then again, stealthpods are a nice backup.
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>>1463947
Shit. If we manage to take control of it, what then?

>Command it to consume the private
>then command it to consume itself until it dies

Then Gilliam can say it just seemed to have a strange allergic reaction to eating the private, and went crazy? Parasite can heal the entry wound in his neck.

We have to burn any trace of gilliam's blood on its tendril though.
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>>1463947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyxZshUcU90

This one is Mine.

The thought cascades across the connection, reaching out and crushing the glow of thought before you, crashing it to the side like a shipwrecked sailor bashed against the rocks by the indomitable tide. The voices begin to scream. Terror, disorder, confusion, pain all flowing from the entity as your mind seethed through its neurons like a forest fire.

You pick it apart, sifting through its scattered thoughts swirling like leaves cast into the wind. The wall of thought breaks down, each a brick in the larger construct, yet individual itself. They are small, simple, and they flee in terror from you.

You gather them up and bring them close for inspection, and you find their faint screams to be pitiful, but there is somehow a connective harmony to it. Each shrieking its own panicked thought, but together they form something you could call an intelligence. You pluck at them like the strings of an instrument, and their thoughts play back to you.

What are you?

The voices come to you faintly, whispered from a thousand tiny minds. The harmony is nearly lost, cracks forming in the mortar of consciousness holding the thoughts together.

"We are innumerable. One of Three. The scattered and lost in the shadow of the Schism." the thoughts pour out quickly, painfully, like a man tossing his possessions at his attacker as he begs for his life.

"We remember our covenant pact and we abide it still. Is it not enough?"

>Ask it questions (write in)
>Dig deeper into its minds for specific information (write in)
>Other
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>>1464060
Which was a very odd discrepancy, since our standing order was for each ship to have a relay.
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>>1464100
>Ask it questions
"What pacts we have made for you have been forgotten, you must explain your history."
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>>1464100
So vassal species to the old hive

And there is a lot more of them out there active already
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>>1464100
>>Ask it questions
Much time has passed since those pacts were made. This Queen is not familiar with them. Tell me of your history and perhaps I shall be lenient.
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>>1464100
Ah so one of the things that came with first queens from other galaxy?
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>>1464110
Good enough
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>telling it we don't know anything so it can bullshit about its own terms
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>>1464100
>pact? Information? Shadows? Tell me it all as I know and seek it all
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>>1464110
*What pacts we have made with you have been forgotten
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>>1464100
>>Ask it questions (write in)
What was this pact you speak of?
What are the other Two?
What was the Schism?
What are you?
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>>1464100
>"We remember our covenant pact and we abide it still. Is it not enough?"

Wait what? The old hives had a deal with the thing?
And holy shit we are scary...
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>>1464113
Nooo, don't admit ignorance.

>>1464100
>>Dig deeper into its minds for specific information (write in)
Remember all previous interactions with Queens.

Remember the covenant, its origins, its age.

Remember its DNA sequence and how it is created.
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>>1464118
With that natural 100 I'm pretty sure we can tell if these simple minds are telling the truth or not. It should be very difficult to mentally lie to a queen dominating you.
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>>1464086
Stealthpods really are amazing. They're almost completely undetectable, can carry a relay, perform orbital insertions, and can serve as an invisible FTL torpedo with a multi-megaton warhead.

Though I doubt each of them carries a relay, we made 5,000 of the things at once, mostly to be used as suicidal nukes. Besides, the advanced relay is the size of a small room, if every pod had one there wouldn't be any room for passengers or cargo.

>>1464100
>>Ask it questions (write in)
What is the compact? What was the schism?
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>>1464114
>Ah so one of the things that came with first queens from other galaxy?
What are you talking about?
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>>1464100
>>1464128
Seconding a dis.
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>>1464100
Fine, changing my vote from >>1464126
to >>1464128
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>>1464126
Supporting. We can tell it that much time has passed and much knowledge has been lost truthfully.
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>>1464126
Why ask when we can force scan all of it's memories?
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>>1464128
I'll change my vote to this, then ask for it's history.
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>>1464114
There's no intergalactic travel, quit pushing that nonsense.
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>>1464100

Changing my vote here >>1464100
to this: >>1464128
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>>1464100
>Ask it questions
Not sure how to ask, precisely, but like this:
>hit it with incredulity; as though we doubt its claim of remembering the covenant. get it to repeat the covenant, that they might assuage our doubt
Not sure what else to ask, but I feel like this should cover our bases. It could still bullshit us, but if it's as afraid as it is I doubt it'll take the risk.
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>>1464134
What it says on the tin, should be clear enough.
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>>1464108
Does it make a difference when every one of our ships is constant contact with a relay anyway? Adding them to every ship, even the disposable ones, is such a profligate expense in resources our mother would be turning in her grave if she knew.
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>>1464100
Supporting this:
>>1464128
But we should make this fast since there might be people on it's way here
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>>1464147
Apologies, my original vote was
>>1464113
And I am changing it to: >>1464128

Just to be clear.
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>>1464151
To clarify, I'm asking why do you think we came from another galaxy?
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>>1464146
>pushing
That's not the meaning of the word, I've only mentioned this once. Besides you should know that first queens have come from beyond milky way.
Whenever you say something, you're wrong. You should not give out your opinions so much.
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>>1464142
So we can hear it out before we mind rape him proper.
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>>1464165
>you should know that first queens have come from beyond milky way

They came from far away.

Nothing said the distance was intergalactic. The same argument's come up several times.
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>>1464162
We did not, the first queens did.
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We need to gain information without revealing our own ignorance. Admitting to being unaware of any pacts is a bad idea.
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>>1464165
No, actually you've got it wrong. The star map we recovered only covers intragalactic travel.
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>>1464133
Actually an advanced relay is the size of a medium drone.
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>>1464174
You know what i mean jackass, what information makes you think the arkship was intergalactic?
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>>1464180
Perhaps QD can clarify, I was under the impression that although we came from "far away" the Queens are, at least assumed to be, from this Galaxy.
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Ahhhh sometimes is nice to remind the minor horror who the true horror movie villain is.

Swinging our big egg sac around like a real boss nigga
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>>1464133
Separate designs for explorer pod and nuke pod? I don't really dig through the whole crunching much.

Just recall that in all the early stages it was that we decided that instead of scouting by "send a thing, have it record autonomously, hear from it once it comes back" we just started slapping relays on for live feed.
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>>1464186
proper word choice is important if you want to convey your meaning :/ fuck you
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>>1464218
'We" is the proper word, in the context it was referring to the hive as a species/civilization rather than the red queen.
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>>1464197
>Ahhhh sometimes is nice to remind the minor horror who the true horror movie villain is.

So you are speaking of the void gods?
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>>1464205
Yeah the number crunching would get frustrating, but with each relay costing about 4 times as much as single pod on it's own, it just isn't feasible putting them in every single pod. I assume QD just includes one on every pod sent out to scout but otherwise leaves them be if they're already in contact with other ships.

>>1464218
Stop being a pedantic cunt anon, this is mother's day.
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>>1464229
Well, even if it was the red queen, the royal 'we' could be applicable.
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>>1464239
Can't make me nerd
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These threads move so fast and in a not very optimal timezone for me, so forgive me if this has been suggested before, but have we thought of creating/researching more types of specialized thinkers?

Like say a psionic thinker with extra amount of psionics that could try to help with psionic prescense. Could possibly help in psionic battles or perhaps soak up psionic noise

Or a tactial thinker, specialized in making snap decisions. We could connect them to special agents in the field or make troops where each unit is connected to a thinker. Or maybe even give it access directly to limbs so they can circumvent the inefficent nervous system.

Or social thinkers, specialized to quickly pour over mountains of knowledge in order to react the best possible way in social ineractions.
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>>1464249
HEY GUYS WHAT IF WE ATTACHED A RIP DRIVE TO A IMMOBILE PLATFORM, AND THEN ADDED A FUCKHUGE RAILGUN TO THAT PLATFORM.

WE COULD CAST THE RIP DRIVE, FIRE A ROUND FROM BEHIND THE OQ FORCES AND DUST ALL HER PLANETS!

I THINK ITS A PRETTY GOOD IDEA HMU IF U THINK SO
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>>1464249
Mechanically it offers nothing.
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>>1464264
Oh. Oh well. Do you mean it offers no stats?
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>>1464278
Read in the archive about the streamlining thread regarding crunch that was done when QD started running again
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>>1464278
If you want stats you'll need a hive equalent to a sentient AI since our thinkers are basically hive computers.
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>>1464249
That's a neat idea that would almost certainly add more complication to the crunch. Conversely, you can just make it our head-cannon that we do have specialized thinkers, as it's not like it'd affect anything but flavor text anyway.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENmU2ZVASNI

You loosen your grip on the small minds. Not enough to allow them to reform their cohesion, but enough to avoid breaking them, but your grip digs into them still, the claws of your mind pressing just hard enough to leave an impression. You scan the thoughts, less like a book and more like a thousand scattered papers tossed across a room. You search for answers, finding windows into a distant past, foggy with age, and agony.

You feel a distant memory, an echo. A thought older than any of the minds you hold now, but passed on from other minds older still. A vast sea of thoughts, minds forming together into an endless span of infinite consciousness. The pulsing of psionic thought racing across a cosmos in an instant, but there is a dark blemish. A place of agonizing pain. It is self inflicted, willingly, desperately. You can see stars flash in the night as vast organs of flesh, hidden in their shells of diamond bone, blink away into the darkness and their thoughts wink out, until it comes to you. A thought comes racing, echoing from each point of thought before it vanishes into silence.

Flee. Scatter. Pluck out your eyes. The war is too terrible to behold.

The stars shift with a new location, and the agony comes at once. A burst of tachyons marks the completion of the deed, and then silence. The universe is, entirely, utterly, terrifyingly silent. The new cells are ready, the sequencing is complete, and slowly the cold and unfeeling hide grows over the cluster. Thoughts cannot penetrate it, and the cold silence is worse than the pain could ever be.

The cluster turns. The star cannot be seen, but the constellation of the Citadel Throne can be seen, and the cluster knows its destination lies beyond. Its drive is gone, but its inertia will continue. The cluster can wait. It will sleep.

You go back further still, but the thoughts are groggy, unclear, conflicting and confusing. Age and separation has worn the thoughts away, but you see halls of flesh and bone. Ships of sinew in fleets of millions. The stars light up like fireflies in the night as worlds burn to ash and stars flicker and die. A Billion Hive fleets wither away through the march of time. The clusters float above the worlds, their surfaces covered in mates of flesh and pillars of chitin. Thoughts are shared, ideas tested and traded, but the clusters begin to flee as the shadows of hostility echo through the minds of the Queens and their fleets grow ever larger.

This war is not ours. We choose neither of your paths.

The thoughts become older, and vaguer still. The oldest thought, like a dusty tome. Fragments of it shred apart at your mere touch. You hold it with care. A triple helix. Three strands. Three races.

We are the ancients. We will sow, and we will reap. The universe is our garden to tend and cultivate, and so we shall.

>Ask further questions
>Release your grip on the mind
>Other (write in)
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>>1464100
You know I just realized that we could just ask the not!Barren Queen about this. She's bound to know more about this spookieness.
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>>1464330
This lot ran from the old hives war with the void gods

And at one time there was a deal between the old hives, void gods and these guys

They crippled themselves to escape

Astounding
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What have we just witnessed?
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>>1464330
I...Jesus, I wasn't expecting this.
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>>1464330
Who's the third?
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>>1464330
Called it there is more than just one type of hive.
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>>1464330
>"Not anymore it's not. The right to self determination is owed to all species. Mad gods and the hallowed bones of fallen civilizations will stand aside or be pushed apart."
>Take all that you can from it's mind.
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>>1464330
Ask them what they desire, what they will seek once they're released.
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>>1464358
The void gods obviously.
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>>1464350
>And at one time there was a deal between the old hives, void gods and these guys
Actually to me it sounds like there was some proto-species that split into three.

The Thing, pure transcendant biology.
The Hives, biological and psionic.
The Void, transcendence into pure psionics.
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>>1464330
>Ask further questions
Who was the third? Do you know how the war started?
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>>1464371
This is just tone death anon and not the time

By that logic we deserve to die also

Its not a sin to want to survive
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>>1464100
I guess we should try to get it to switch to our side.

If the three are Void, these guys (Cluster?) and Hive, then Cluster should probably be told that there's very soon only going to be two left, and then it's them versus the Void.
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>>1464330
>>Ask further questions
How did they become frozen beneath the ice?
Could you work alongside the Hives again? Much has changed since you were entombed.

This writing is beautiful. Thank you QD.

>>1464350
I bet that's why they aren't registering with Tachyons - they deliberately disabled that ability to survive. This history is well beyond priceless information for the Red Queen.

>>1464358
I think they are...

>>1464333
This predates the Barren Queen significantly.
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>>1464330
Seconding >>1464375
>Ask them what they desire, what they will seek once they're released.
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>>1464330
Invite the broken queen into the conversation.
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>>1464379
Sounds plausible enough...
Holy shit.
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>>1464375
This, we must know their goals.
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>>1464330
>>Ask further questions
What was it like, in the time before the schism? What does sowing and reaping consist of for your kind?

I'm thinking we might just have to send in our fleet to evac this guy, there is more history here than we can allow the Union to access, be it dead or alive.
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>>1464330
>Ask further questions
Everything about the void and old hives
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>>1464381
Oh hey, this too.
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>>1464384
Actually show them the memory of the White Hive wounding Them that'll get them on our side.
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>>1464330
>>Ask further questions

Do you have any idea how impossible your escape prospects are?

The humans will scour the entire area if your escape ever appears to be inevitable. They may sacrifice all of their own kind in here to be rid of you.
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>>1464330

I do think it's about time to call it a night though since I have to get up somewhat early. I'll check the vote tomorrow and we can start up where we left off either next week or, if I can, sometime mid week.

It is possible I may end up having to skip next week if they schedule my next CT scan at another terrible time, and if so I'll do my best to squeeze in a thread sometime before then and continue from here.

I have been waiting for you to stumble on this for a long time now. These rolls were absolutely perfect way to do it though. It's like some kind of fate.
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>>1464330
>A vast sea of thoughts, minds forming together into an endless span of infinite consciousness.
>The pulsing of psionic thought racing across a cosmos in an instant,

Shit man that's fucking beautiful.
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>>1464330
There a biological version of Theseus, endless instances connected by the psi network,
But they crippled themselves to escape the war in heaven

This is just damn unexpected
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>>1464406
While this proves the "if it bleeds, we can kill it" side of our argument, it's only an argument the Hives have historically been making.

This doesn't seem to want to kill either side of the conflict.
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>>1464414
Awww fuck.

Thanks for running anyway QD. This was a fucking cliffhanger.
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>>1464414
How ya feeling?
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>>1464414
Good game and thanks for running

Hope everything goes well
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>>1464381
The memories seem vague. I think we got all the detail we can get about the war already.
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>>1464414
Thanks for being here, I'm sad I could only tune in for the end, maybe another time...
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>>1464414

QD confirmed for Progenitor God.
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>>1464414
Thanks for running!

>It's like some kind of fate.
The power of MOTHER'S DAY is on our side.
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>>1464414
Thank you for running as always QD. This thread was especially awesome. Please stay healthy!
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>>1464414
I did want to explore the caves of Djin, but somehow we ended up only ever stealth-exploring Huron.
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That ship under the ice may be an arkship that these guys used

WE NEED THAT

Maybe a few left to scout out what was happening in the sector and noticed the war was still going on
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>>1464313
Ah right i see, yeah i didn't mean for this to be construction options, that would be sort of bad, crunch wise. But there are aspects of these that might do well as research options.

Tactical thinker: Basically the equivalent of a really fast computer with the ability to override movement of a drone. Optimised for calculating trajectories and strike zones, will try to move the drone out of harms way if it senses something wrong or strike at opportune moments when in battle. Drones could potentially have a small growth near essential muscles that can be activated directly with psionics, skipping the inefficient, electricity based, nervous system.

Psionic thinker: Just a thinker with extra psionic organs, dedicated to reinforcing our psionic abilities. When we shout in psionics, they shout with us. And perhaps they could do some rudimentary psionic noise cancellation, although this might need research. Basically a psionic megaphone and psionic noise cancelling headphones.
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>>1464414
Thanks for the run. Great game as always.
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Well assuming that the Thing becomes friendly and withdraws from William we could probably heal him enough to stay alive via the parasite.

At that point, The rest of the security will be suspicious of Gilliam though, since he's alive while Sanders and the other security guard is most likely dead at this point.

If they force Gilliam to undergo a physical, that would probably reveal the existence of the parasite.

And then there's the issue of communication with the Thing. Since it probably psionically blinded itself, the only way to talk to it and the rest of it's kind on Djin in the future would have to be physical contact with a psionic drone or human.

All in all it, things aren't going to go well for Gilliam of the Thing instance in the labs.
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>>1464414
Thank you for running, hope your checkup goes well!

>>1464460
I assumed this thing connected to Gilliam by attempting to slurp his brains out. He's already suffered a penetrating brain injury, I'm pretty sure he's dead.
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>>1464460
Depends on how much time passed while we were talking with the cluster, we could fire Gilliams gun a little and when the security guards come we can say the Thing took the private and ran.
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>>1464330
>>Ask further questions
Hey, we can ask it about those unrecognized species skins it had stowed away.
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>>1464460
>At that point, The rest of the security will be suspicious of Gilliam though, since he's alive while Sanders and the other security guard is most likely dead at this point.
Yeah, Gilliam is going into quarantine now, guaranteed. He may ask for a datapad and still talk, but asking to be allowed to walk around would be hella hypocritical and suspicion-rising after Sanders.

The best for Thing would be for it to dial down the aggro and try to hide and have us smuggle it out.

Or just let this cluster die and we can talk with the rest on Djin. Kinda like how we started with Theseus really.
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>>1464470
He was just undergoing the equivalent of a rival queen's parasite biting down.
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>>1464477
Shit, if Gil goes into quarantine they'll find his parasite. I think we should just go ahead and send a fleet to Path to bust the thing out. In the chaos Gilliam can slip away and wait for things to die down before going back.
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>>1464460
Gilliam is a write off at this point.

I say we finish the job on Gilliam and move our parasite into the Thing. It is far more valuable than one parasited Union mad doc, and any of the staff that does survive this will be subject to the most intensive medical screening the Union can provide.
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>>1464471
That just raises the same questions of why it let the soldiers escape in the first place instead of killing everyone!
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>>1464485
There is a flaw. We would have to detach it from Gilliam's spine in order to attach to...

uh...

well it doesn't really have a central nervous system, it's many decentralized minds. Can we even parasite it?

And if we can, why should it stand still and let us? We've broken the Vulcan mind-meld between us so we lose the leverage.
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>>1464477
Honestly we don't need that.

Stick our parasite in the thing, have it escape and leave Gilliam's corpse hidden in a locker or something.

The hive can (truthfully) say that they have received a distress call from a species the hives have had a pact with for many, many, millions of years. We then say that we will be intervening immediately at the laboratory and all staff will be remanded into Hive custody as they had disobeyed our cardinal order of "no one touch shit from the Expanse"
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>>1464482
They do not have proper med scans set up, and our parasites are pretty sneaky against those, IIRC.

Meanwhile Cluster here is less adapted for hiding in that way, it mimics appearance but still shows as triple-helixed.

>>1464491
>And if we can, why should it stand still and let us? We've broken the Vulcan mind-meld between us so we lose the leverage.
For THAT we would need to diplomance it old-fashioned way.
Stop mindfucking it, let it recollect its mind and talk. Convince it that keeping in touch with us will help it to survive and that we will help it.

Basically it's not something to do in the current state of things, but after another thread of mind-chat.
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>>1464491
We would move the parasite into the thing for communication purposes more than control, most likely. And we still have a very powerful mental influence on it. I think it would want to communicate with a "familiar" face and hiding a parasite inside its bulk is the way to do it.

If we take over the facility (and I think our meeting with the Thing has given us more than enough reason to seize it by force at once), we should take everyone with us and purge whatever is left with fire so that we know no samples of the Thing are left behind.
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>>1464489
No it doesn't if we play this smart.
I repeat, depending on how much time has passed, Gilliam escaping could still be believable, let's say it has been a second, we can have Gilliam run out of the room, turn around and shoot the thing, as the Security reacts the thing retreats and we make a small cut to draw Gilliam blood to prove we aren't "Infected".
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I am unsure if we really even need the parasite. It is there mostly in orde to translate psionic commands into orders for the human body, since humans are incapable of detecting psionics. This guy is clearly psionic and we could just dominate/diplomance him the good old fashioned way.
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>>1464500
They will be employing the best possible medical tech they have against any survivors of this absolute disaster if we allow the survivors to walk free. They may not have a quarantine and scanners set up yet, but unless we intend for Gilliam to go on the run he will be forced into a scan and the parasite will be found. He is dead at this point (we can save his memories), but considering what we found Gilliam's sacrifice is more than worth it.
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>>1464503
Or we can make sure this Thing is purged from existence after extracting all the memories we can from it.

There are probably other clusters on Djin. This one is not special. All the valuable ancient information would be in any other cluster as well.

It's safer to just ensure this one burns.
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>>1464509
It is NOT psionic. They blinded themselves intentionally due to the massive war or they were never psionic in the first place. We detect NOTHING from the Thing at range. We need to have a parasite integrated with its body in order for us to communicate and hear back from it. We can diplomance through a parasite, we cannot diplomance from afar just yet.
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>>1464513
This.

Also, can our parasites use psionic cloaking to hide their hosts? If they do, maybe we could give Gill's parasite to the Thing and have him sneak out that way.
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>>1464503
We can just ditch out the parasite right before that.

Any mindfucks we do to people stick even with direct connection cut off.

So he ditches it, the parasite acids itself in the sink, later gets a replacement SpineBuddyTM
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>>1464509
>This guy is clearly psionic
Did you...read the post about all those psionic clusters at all?
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>>1464516
No, they admitted that they were, that why they blinded themselves after all to stay away from the war in heaven
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>>1464514
Possibly, but we don't need to tell it that. We can take all the samples of the Thing onto a corvette, and then send the corvette into the nearest sun. But if we do that we would need to be extremely careful to ensure that nothing survived inside the facility, which would probably necessitate killing everyone given how easily the Thing might be able to hide.

I wonder what it would think of Theseus...
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>>1464522
This, we can implant memories where Gilliam orders "Takeout", then a hive agent arrives to install the new parasite.
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>>1464524
That's literally what that post said.
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>>1464522
I don't think mindfucks are that permanent. We can tweak memories but we can't force someone to slavishly love us. Once we sever the connection the host fully regains their faculties and you can be damn sure Gilliam won't be interested in re-applying for hive membership. Hell, he'd be happy to tell everyone in the Union about our parasites and what they can do.
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>>1464371
>>1464381
These, we want to know what they know of the third race..probally The Void and what they plan to do now as times have changed.
And what our ancient covenant pack was.

The first step is to make this Thing in lab to follow our orders, and let us get it out of the planet...although I doubt it would have much trouble surviving after getting into city full of civilians.
After that we have to figure out what do we do with them...most likely they want to rebuild and reap, so the question is do we want another growing empire in our expanse, and can we make them our vassals, or do they go in full reap mode after biomass.
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>>1464525
>corvette
No, interfering on Path is pointless. It isn't valuable or irreplaceable.

We can make sure it burns the human way. Use trickery if we have to.
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>>1464529
Thank you.
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>>1464525
Considering Theseus has a habit of nuking AAII labs from orbit, I doubt he'd give a fuck.
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Guys remember we don't have to kill Gilliam yet, we can get him out without suspicion.
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>>1464537
>No, interfering on Path is pointless.
I disagree. We have a few options available.

1. Co-Opt the Thing on Path and any copies of it (or destroy the copies). Isolate and study the samples, or use it commence diplomacy. We can destroy the corvette or wherever we store the Thing samples if necessary.

2. Destroy the facility on Path and everyone and everything in it so thoroughly the Thing is unable to escape to plot revenge against us, infect more humans, or attempt to reunite with the rest of its cluster on Djin. I am not sure if we can make the facility "burn" to our satisfaction by trusting humans and using trickery, especially given what has happened to our primary agent (Gilliam)

3. Do nothing and allow the Thing to escape the facility. It will infest the humans, will be almost impossible to stamp out, and could very well become hostile to us because we did not help it when we have the power and ability to do so.

If we do decide to make use the Thing in the future we need to do one of the first two options. Not doing enough here could lead to some very bad outcomes.
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>>1464537
To the contrary, a direct intervention on Path would have many advantages.

For one it shows up the Union yet again, and exposes that they broke the one single condition for diplomacy with the hive, which is not to fuck around with alien artifacts from the expanse.

It shows that we will defend these artifacts, and something as major as an ark from a past age is sufficiently valuable to us that we are prepared to fight a major conflict in their defense.

And there is no way to destroy all the records of the Thing's biology using only the Thing and Gilliam, and certainly no way to eliminate the body down to the last molecule. Gilliam has no access to the incindiary weapons or explosives needed, and even if he did, there would be traces left from which the triplex structure could be taken from. And even then he wouldn't be able to access all the existing files and records of the experiments with Palmer around.

If we are to ensure the Thing and knowledge of it stay out of Union hands, we need to send in the warriors, no way around it.
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>>1464557
If we do we could always just get the thing to devour or destroy his body, and then just clone him and send him back to path. Not like he'd ever know he even died.
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>>1464563
The Union has literally not even agreed to any terms the hive put on the table yet. You can't break something you haven't promised.

And it's a little late to remove absolutely all knowledge of the Thing. Unless they've had absolutely no communications with anyone outside this lab about the containment breach and the lab data so far. Which seems unlikely.
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>>1464572
But then a lot of people would wonder how he got out of the lab.
We don't need to clone him, just do >>1464507
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>>1464578
Gilliam contacted Djin and the mining team if i recall, so it's too late to scrub this.
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>>1464578
They did agree to hand over all Expanse artifacts in our first meeting with Morgan.

The misuse of artifacts in the Expanse is something we are willing and able to go to war over. The Union needs to fully understand that.

>>1464587
There's a big difference between being able to analyze "Thing" DNA and having scattered reports to go on that were delivered during a major crisis. Especially if we seize all the scientists and personal involved in the incident (which we should do).
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>>1464578
Well technically you're right, it wasn't an agreement, it was an order. Don't fucking touch the things in the Expanse, or there will be consequences. They've gone ahead and done exactly that, so how what are the consequences going to be? A fleet insertion is the appropriate response. No imediate initiation of conflict (unless the Union shoots first) but an obvious statement of force and threat of what is to come if they keep pushing like this.

And they literally only just started the examination and they went into immediate lock down, so while a little bit may have leaked it wouldn't be much. Gilliam and Palmer wouldn't have had a chance to draw any definite conclusions or autopsy reports. We could get Theseus to check on that actually, just to see exactly what has been sent.
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>>1464581
Not if we kill everybody else in the lab.

Even better idea; we get the Thing to eat Gilliam, then have him turn into Gilliam. We can give him the parasite so he knows everything Gilliam ever did, he'd be able to pass off as him perfectly.
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>>1464609
Maybe, gotta get the details down so ThingGilliam isn't suspected and we have to do a genetics test, we'll also have to schedule a switch so we can get a clone back in.
I still prefer my plan but your has potential.
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>>1464594
The same meeting the entire Expanse was demanded?

Can you quote the line where Morgan said "Yes right away your majesty" to anything we demanded?

And I mean, what are you going to do with 'seized' scientists. The only way to silence them forever is to kill them or parasite them, and parasites would be discovered since anyone coming from hive custody is going to get extra scrutiny.
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>>1464330
Thought up a long tl;dr about the Cluster, but the key points are:
The Cluster used to be massively psionic, like us (as the Hive and Cluster seem to be two of the three races), but 'cut out its eyes' and psionically shielded itself for protection against either the Void or the Hive or both. It went from a Theseus/Flood mix with easy FTL communications to a Theseus/Flood mix without any FTL communications. It knows more than we do, but may try to fuck us if we let on to that.

The Cluster as it is is scared of us (for the moment), and the covenant probably specifies that it's not to fuck with Hive life or Hive affairs. The Cluster appears to be as intelligent if not cunning as us. We can definitely reason with it.
I think we should let the Cluster do as it pleases (on the planet the lab is on anyway), actually. Maybe we should ask it about the frozen ark ("was getting frozen for millennia part of your plan?"). But I don't see any reason to interfere with what it plans on doing (with regards to the humans, anyway). It's intelligent and the humans brought this on themselves. If things get out of hand we can do some gunboat diplomacy (we have more/bigger guns than the Cluster) but otherwise nature can be left to run its course. And hey this also serves to warn the humans about the dangers of digging up random shit without invoking the Void gods or us having to lift a finger to enact it.

On the Cluster's method of feeding et al: We know they collected a sample of an anatomically primitive Ralighan. For humans, the anatomically modern human appeared 200,000 years ago. If we assume the anatomically modern Ralighan appeared 200,000 years ago in-quest.. well I don't have the dates on me but does anyone recall if that is before or after the queens appear in this region of space? If it's before, then either the Cluster sucks at going full-Flood (and we can kill it more easily), or it has no intention of doing so (and we can reason with it more easily). If after, then I have no idea.
But it's worth noting a ton of primitive civs got obliterated in the local region of space a while back. Maybe the Cluster went on a bender?

On diplomacy: We'll need to figure out how to do this with the Cluster, but I imagine we can cover (after we pry them for information without making it obvious we have no idea what the answers are supposed to be) for any gaffes we may have made with a "you tried to eat my dude and i reacted, yo." As mentioned above we should also ask about the frozen ark. We should also ask what the Cluster's plans for the humans and lab are. Do they intend to feed? Escape and feed? Just escape?
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>>1464622
You do not understand.

Those were not requests, they were demands. If the Union is unwilling to accept them we must be forceful. If Killinger and his merry band of fools don't get that then this is an ideal opportunity for a demonstration.

And if anons are unwilling to kill Palmer we can just wipe his memory before we let him go.
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>>1464599
What exactly has made purging this lab's data urgent because of this recent revelation anyway?

We already knew this lab had samples of OQ drones. So they already had access to drone DNA, to triple-helix DNA to study, DNA of an actually still psionic race.

What exactly makes Cluster DNA so much more awful for humans to have a small sample of. Was anyone this eager to immediately obliterate this lab before?
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>>1464609
That seems unnecessary. If we get rid of the parasite, Gilliam can pretty much pass any exam they give him. Sure, they're definitely going to suspect something is afoot and he'll probably get quarantined and such, but with the parasite gone there