>>Previous threadshttp://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?searchall=Dragonball+quest>>Writeup Pastebinhttp://pastebin.com/nzPARvE8>>InformationThis quest, as the title suggests, takes place in the world of Dragon Ball. You're playing as a twenty-two year old man named Tofoo, and will adventure through the story of the Dragonball series alongside characters such as Goku, Yamcha, Bulma, Tien, and many others. Through your actions, you can make significant changes to the story, and perhaps even become the strongest fighter on Earth.>RulesAt the end of each update you'll have ten minutes to vote on options. Write-ins are allowed, but I do reserve the right to veto them.In the event of a draw, the option to receive the next vote winsRolls will be used on certain occasions, such as attempting a technique for the first time or attempting something extremely difficult. You will have three rolls, and if one succeeds, you succeed. There are no crits.Rolls are made AFTER an option wins, not during the voting processI hope everyone has fun.>>Current SagaThree Years of Training>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew1A7ntUwAo
We're still fighting Goku right? Go Tofoo! I pray the dice don't fail us
First for a fun time!
Shockwaves once again spread across the wasteland as you collide with Goku in another furious exchange of punches and kicks. Finding yourself on the defensive once again, you're swiftly pushed back under Goku's rapid, unorthodox combination of strikes, your quickly reflexes and reading of the vibrations in the air allowing you to move quickly enough to intercept and parry his strikes. As Goku throws another punch, he suddenly fades from sight, and you feel movement behind you.Dropping your upper body forward, you wind up in a push-up position as Goku passes right over your head with a kick. Moving your lower body up, you handspring into the air, flipping and kicking down at Goku, only for him to spin and block it with his right arm. You backflip away as he fires an energy blast up at you, landing in a crouch and immediately pushing off toward him.He crosses his arms in front of his face to block a punch you throw and answers with a knee-strike you barely manage to block with your left leg. The two of you push back, then rush at each other once again, each pulling your right arms back to punch.Your fists collide, the explosion of energy shattering the ground beneath you, and creating a deep crater. The two of you push against one another before being forced to jump back, each of you taking a moment to breathe."You're really amazin', Tofoo," Goku comments through heavy breaths. >A. So is he>B. He hasn't seen anything yet>C. Suggest calling it quits for today>D. Damn the rules, Kuma-Ken>E. Bear Shout>F. Charge>G. Defend>H. Something else
>>1345925>A.>F.>H. Triple after image, appear behind and above him the final one appearing in front of him"It's always a blast fighting you Goku!"
>>1345925>A.>C.>H. Offer to shake his hand in respect, and to spar again next time.
>>1345938Changing mine to this Might as well call it here and go figure out what to do first for our training
Aww I love fighting Goku but I understand
>>1345925seconding>>1345938Also going back to the conversation from the last thread, By eternal youth I mean keeping in our physical for the rest of our mortal life span, so we don't weaken from age while our rivals stay practically the same for the next few decades. No immortality or infinite lifespan. Would that be an acceptable wish?
>>1345938This, and ask about his goofy clothes
>>1345938>>1345960>>1345944"So are you," you tell your friend as you try to catch your breath. "But how about we call it quits for today?"Goku looks a tad disappointed, but nods just the same, a smile coming to his face. "Alright, but I want a rematch sometime. I won't be satisfied until I know for sure which of us is the better fighter."Smiling, you approach your friend, holding a hand out to him. Goku looks down at it in surprise for a moment, then smiles at you and shakes it."Daddy, that was great!" Kori shouts, rushing over to her father.Goku smiles warmly at her, ruffling her hair. Bulma approaches, carrying a wide-eyed Trunks in her arms. "Not bad, hotshot. In three years, you might be stronger than a Super Saiyan.">A. There's no "might" about it>B. You'll have to be>C. Well, you'll have the smartest woman in the world helping you train>D. Ask Goku what he plans to do>E. Ask Goku what took him so long getting back>F. Ask Goku about his outfit>G. Something else
>>1345979>C. Well, you'll have the smartest woman in the world helping you train>D. Ask Goku what he plans to do>F. Ask Goku about his outfitCan we finally ask King Kai about teaching us Instantaneous Movement?
>>1345979>C. Well, you'll have the smartest woman in the world helping you train>F. Ask Goku about his outfit>E. Ask Goku what took him so long getting back>D. Ask Goku what he plans to do
>>1345979>>C. Well, you'll have the smartest woman in the world helping you train>>D. Ask Goku what he plans to do>>F. Ask Goku about his outfit
>>1345979>C. Well, you'll have the smartest woman in the world helping you train>E. Ask Goku what took him so long getting back>F. Ask Goku about his outfit
>>1345988>>1345989>>1345990>>1345991>>1345992"Well, I'll have the smartest woman in the world helping me get stronger," you tell your wife, who smiles at the compliment.Looking to Goku, you ask a few questions that have been on your mind since he landed. "So, what took you so long getting back? And what's with your outfit?""Hmm?" Goku looks down at his clothing. "Oh, right. I'm so used to it now I kind of forgot how it looks compared to Earth clothes."He laughs. "Well, to be honest, I wasn't sure I was going to make it back from Namek at all. After I defeated Freeza, the entire planet was comin' apart. I ran to his ship, but I couldn't get it to start. It looked like I was doomed, but that's when I saw a space pod. I'm pretty sure it belonged to the Ginyu Force. I was able to get to it, hit a button, and I blasted off Namek.""Well, that's a lucky break," Bulma remarks.Goku nods in agreement. "I didn't know where I was going, but I knew it had to be better than Namek. Eventually, I crash-landed on a planet called Yardrat. The people there were super friendly, and they took care of me. They even managed to repair my ship, and after a year, I was able to make my way home.">A. Why did it take that long?>B. He's stronger than before. How?>C. So that's where the outfit was from?>D. You'd guess the Ginyu Force was planning to conquer Yardrat after Namek>E. Something else
>>1346034>D.>E. Next chance we get to spar again I want to see how I measure up to a Super Saiyan.
>>1346034>C.>B.>E."Did you train with the Yardrats during that year? I can't imagine you passing up a chance to train with a bunch of aliens."
>>1346034>A. Why did it take that long?>D. You'd guess the Ginyu Force was planning to conquer Yardrat after Namek>E>>1346045
>>1346034>A. Why did it take that long?>B. He's stronger than before. How?>D. You'd guess the Ginyu Force was planning to conquer Yardrat after Namek
>>1346045>>1346067>>1346053"I'd guess the Ginyu Force was planning to take over Yardrat once they left Namek," you tell your friend. "But anyway, why did you take so long getting back? And how did you get stronger? Did you train with the Yardrats?"Goku smiles, giving a chuckle."I knew it," you smirk. "I couldn't imagine you passing up a chance to train with a bunch of aliens.""Well, the Yadrats weren't very strong, but they did know some incredible techniques," Goku tells you. "They could do things I didn't even think were possible.""So, they taught you their moves?" Kori asks.Goku looks a tad disappointed. "Well, I wanted to learn them all, but none of those techniques are easy. It took me a whole year to learn just one; Instant Transmission.">A. Instant Transmission?>B. Ask if he can show you>C. Say goodbye and head home>D. Something else
>>1346088>A. Instant Transmission?>B. Ask if he can show you>C. Why didn't you use it in the fight?
>>1346088>A. Instant Transmission?>B. Ask if he can show you
>>1346088>B. Ask if he can show you>E. Bet that we can learn it in less than a year, if we can't, Capsule Corp will feed Goku for a year
>>1346088>B. Ask if he can show you
>>1346101>Capsule Corp will feed Goku for a yearDo you want to bankrupt Capsule Corp?
>>1346108It's a high stakes bet, it shows him we're serious.
>>1346101If Suno can feed Goku for a year, then Capsule Corp can do it easily. Besides, I'm pretty sure Dr. Briefs' bank account is just an Infinity Symbol.
>>1346088>Did the ship have any other designated places after Yardrat? Like metamor
>>1346144Hell Yardrato did it
>>1346146Metamor is gone
>>1346159I bet it's still there in Universe 6!
>>1346162Probably, Universe 6 is a less shitty place to live
>>1346167But there is no earth and earth food there, plus their god of destruction is fat and lazy.
>>1346094>>1346097>>1346093"Instant Transmission?" you ask.Goku nods. "It's an amazing trick. If you use it, you can go anywhere instantly!""Can you show me?" you ask.Goku smiles. "Alright."The Saiyan develops a serious expression on his face, and lifts his right hand, placing two fingers on his forehead. A moment later, he vanishes into thin air, only to return a moment later, holding a wooden staff that looks extremely familiar.It takes you only a moment to realize that the object in question belongs to Kami.>A. What? How?!>B. Why didn't he use that to get here sooner?>C. Head home>D. Something else
>>1346171sure but if your god of destruction is a lazy turd that doesn't do anything, then odds are he almost never goes around destroying planets and ending entire species on a whim and will only really step in if he has to. Sounds like a good deal to me.
>>1346171Champa is actually a better God of Destruction than Beerus.
>>1346182Champa seems more pleasant in general than Beerus.
>>1346177>A. What? How?!>B. Why didn't he use that to get here sooner?you know with Freeza being here and all>D could you show me how you do that?
>>1346171There's an earth there, the humans just stupidly blew themselves up. Until Beerus wishes for it to be restored.
>>1346177>D. Bet that you can learn it in less than a year
>>1346177>A. What? How?!>B. Why didn't he use that to get here sooner?Depending on his answer pinch both his cheeks and tell him we prefer not to play house with freeza and eating his dirt cakes.
>>1346190Som gets it
>Multi form+>Healing KiTell me that wouldn't be helpful.
>>1346186>>1346201"What?!" you ask, flabbergasted. "How?!"Goku chuckles. "I told you it's a neat trick. I have to focus on a person's energy, and visualize them in my mind. Then I can just travel to them.""That doesn't make any sense," Bulma remarks."Tell me about it," Goku tells her, rubbing the back of his head. "Why do you think it took me a year to learn?""So, if you could use a technique like that, why wouldn't you use it to get here sooner?" you ask.Goku looks back over at you. "Well, I was going to, but then I sensed you all powering up. When you started to lose, I was about to jump in, but then I sensed Trunks. I knew he could handle Freeza.">A. Of course, he is your son>B. Tell Goku he should give Kami his staff back>C. Head home>D. Something else
>>1346235All of the above
>>1346215That sounds cool but wouldn't we just be using our own ki anyway? why even bother with multiform. A healing ki would be awesome to have though. We can heal our allies and have self healing/regenerative abilities, which would make us even more of a tank then we already are.
>>1346235>>D. Something elseGet Goku to teach us the Instant Transmission.
>>1346235>B. Tell Goku he should give Kami his staff back>D. This>>1346243
>>1346235>A. Of course, he is your son>B. Tell Goku he should give Kami his staff backAsk if he can get Kami to make us a heavier set of weighted clothing while hes giving the staff back>C. Head home
>>1346235>A. Of course, he is your son>D. You have got to teach me that sometime.
>>1346235>A. Of course, he is your son>B. Tell Goku he should give Kami his staff back>C. Head home
>>1346255>>1346248>>1346243"Of course, he is my son," you brag. "Anyway, you should give Kami his staff back.""Well, I really should be getting home," Goku says before tossing the staff to you. "So, mind handling that for me? Thanks!"He looks to his daughter, grinning. "Let's go home, Kori."Grinning, and nodding eagerly, Kori takes to the sky, with her father close behind."Hey, hold on!" you shout to your friend. "I want you to teach me Instant Transmission!""Maybe some other time!" he shouts back before flying out of earshot.Bulma sighs, shaking her head. "Honestly, Goku...."Trunks stares into the sky, watching Goku and Kori vanishing into the distance."So, are you heading back with us?" Bulma asks. "Or are you heading to Kami's place?">A. You're going home>B. You're going to the Lookout>C. You're going to Kame House>D. Krillin's house>E. Yamcha's house>F. Jingle Village>G. Something else
>>1346298>G. Something elseTell Bulma and Trunks they look pretty
>>1346298>B. You're going to the Lookout"Gonna start with my training as fast possible."Might as well ask him what the best course of what we should focus on while we are there as well.
>>1346298>B. You're going to the LookoutI have an idea for Konnatsu
>>1346298You can only keep knowledge in the Pendulum Room right? So what if we use the Pendulum Room to go to Goku while he's on Yardrat and learn the Instant Transmission?
>>1346298>B. You're going to the LookoutOur training has been pretty crappy the last couple of times(due to bad rolls) might as well get some guidance.>G. Mind reading.Ok so crazy Idea, remember when Goku learned telepathy and that one time we tried to use it, it didn't work so we just forgot about it? what if we figure out how to do it really quick and if we can learn to do it, then we can just ask Mutaito to read his mind and learn about his observations of ki control directly, rather than have him try to explain it. We could also do the same thing with goku and instant transmission. We could ask Korrin for pointer if we have trouble learning telepathy.
>>1346338Neat enough idea
>>1346298E. Kill Yamcha
>>1346298BGTell them you drop the staff real quick then head home
>>1346316>>1346318>>1346321"I'm going to the Lookout," you tell your wife. "I need to start my training as soon as possible."Bulma nods. "Alright. I'll get to work on the gravity chamber. See you soon."The two of you part ways, with Bulma producing a capsule and throwing it, releasing the airship trapped within. As she takes to the skies and heads for home, you make your way toward the Sacred Land of Korin, flying high above the forests that Borra and Upa call home, and climbing higher into the air far above the clouds, where the great floating Lookout watches over the world, with Kami as its Guardian.Shooting above Korin Tower, you soon reach the Lookout, finding its Guardian already waiting, a look on his face that you can't quite place. As you land, he approaches you, and you hand him his staff, which he takes with a small smile."It is good to see you again, Tofoo," he tells you pleasantly. "Though, I dearly wish that it was under less dire circumstances.">A. Likewise>B. So he knows what's going on, then?>C. You came to train; what can he teach you?>D. You're ready to accept his offer; you want to become Guardian of the Earth>E. Something else
>>1346390>D. You're ready to accept his offer; you want to become Guardian of the EarthOur family can go fuck itself.
>>1346390>A.>B.>that last optionNot this again
>>1346390>B. So he knows what's going on, then?>C. You came to train; what can he teach you?
>>1346390>A. Likewise>B. So he knows what's going on, then?>C. You came to train; what can he teach you?If he has nothing then ask for heavier weighted clothing and go see how we stack up against Slug and Turles event without the Kuma-ken.
>>1346390>A. Likewise>C. You came to train; what can he teach you?>E. but seriously, you guys want to try the telepathy thing?
>>1346424>go see how we stack up against Slug and Turles event without the Kuma-ken.I wonder if we can get Turles pissed enough to go Super Saiyan?
>>1346408>>1346423>>1346411"Likewise," you tell your old teacher. "I'm guessing you know what's going on, then."He nods, a grave expression on his face. "Yes, unfortunately. It seems the Earth is fated to never know a prolonged period of peace. And, I must confess that this latest threat has me particularly concerned. I believe we will be facing a darkness unlike any before.""I've come to train," you tell him. "What can you teach me?"Kami smiles grimly. "An excellent question. When you and Goku came here as children, I believed that Piccolo would be the last great threat the Earth would face for some time, and that the two of you would be able to deal with any others like him that popped up. I'd expected to die along with Piccolo, and so taught you both all that I could. Truthfully, Tofoo, I'm unsure if there's anything I can teach you.">A. You can use the Pendulum Room, right?>B. What about that room Popo sent you and Goku into? The one that makes time pass differently>C. Well, if a Guardian doesn't have anything to teach you, what about the Kais?>D. Could he at least provide you with some new weighted clothing?>E. Something else
>>1346455>A. You can use the Pendulum Room, right?>D. Could he at least provide you with some new weighted clothing?>>C. Well, if a Guardian doesn't have anything to teach you, what about the Kais?
>>1346455>A. You can use the Pendulum Room, right?>C. Well, if a Guardian doesn't have anything to teach you, what about the Kais?"Piccolo and the others became a lot stronger with King Kai, there is also the Grand Kai's world, but I have no idea if the living are allowed there.">D. Could he at least provide you with some new weighted clothing?
>>1346455>A. You can use the Pendulum Room, right?for battle experience and a way to test ourselves, rather than training. Also maybe we could try learning from Olibu, the strongest human in history, again>C. Well, if a Guardian doesn't have anything to teach you, what about the Kais?>E. telepathy
>>1346369It's going to happen sooner or later.
>>1346481>>1346473>>1346482"I can still use the Pendulum Room, right?" you ask. "And you can give me more weighted clothing?"Kami nods. "I can, but I'm afraid there's little more I can actually teach you. I can merely provide you with the tools for you to continue your journey on your own feet."That's not the kind of answer you were hoping for, but as you think about it, the situation isn't hopeless. After all, there are beings above Guardians in the celestial order."Well, if a Guardian doesn't have anything to teach me, what about the Kais?" you ask Kami."The Kais?" he asks, raising an eyebrow. "Unless you plan on being killed again, I don't see that happening.">A. Well, that would get you to Otherworld...>B. What if you invited them to Earth?>C. You could throw a huge feast to thank the Grand Kai for saving the Earth, and invite the four lower Kais too>D. Maybe you could visit them via the Pendulum Room?>E. Something else
>>1346517>C. You could throw a huge feast to thank the Grand Kai for saving the Earth, and invite the four lower Kais tooGood thing the Kais are fat fucks unlike their boss.
>>1346517>C. You could throw a huge feast to thank the Grand Kai for saving the Earth, and invite the four lower Kais too>The Gods should spend some time with the mortal occasionally anyhow.
>>1346517>A. Well, that would get you to Otherworld...>C. You could throw a huge feast to thank the Grand Kai for saving the Earth, and invite the four lower Kais too>D. Maybe you could visit them via the Pendulum Room?Just throw ideas at Kami and see what he thinks. also >E. ask if he can show you telepathyI'm not letting this go.
>>1346517>E. Would it be possible to make a wish on the dragonballs to create a way to move between this world and otherworld without having to die or be wished back to life?
>>1346517>C. You could throw a huge feast to thank the Grand Kai for saving the Earth, and invite the four lower Kais too"And if they can't come to earth, we could have it held on King Kai's planet, Goku can help with the transportation with that new technique of his." and this incase>D. Maybe you could visit them via the Pendulum Room?
>>1346546>>1346528"We could throw a huge feast to thank the Grand Kai for saving Earth," you suggest. "And we could invite the lesser Kais as well.""Well, I suppose we could try," Kami tells you with a sigh.>End UpdatesThat's all for tonight, guys, hope you all had fun. Follow me @qmdralo to see when I'm running
>>1346570Thanks as always for running Som.I'm glad we were able to actually keep up with Goku. Nay-sayers be damned.Any chance we can pick up the Power Pole before we leave the Lookout?
>>1346582That's still in the possession of Goku's family
>>1346570Thanks for the session, SOM.And thanks for giving us ample time to argue about our 3 years of training.
>>1346570Thanks for running, so is Kami use to both Tofoo's and Goku's crazy ideas from us spending those three years with him and Popo or are we proving him wrong by going further and beyond each time?
>>1346589Wait really? It's not connecting Korin's Tower and the Lookout...shit.I was kinda hoping we would give it to Konnatsu.
>>1346338I don't think it would work since we don't know where Mutaito, let alone if he would let us find him by sensing for his calm ki.
>>1346616We could just ask Roshi and Shen.
>>1346570Can't wait for Beerus to crash the party and eat all the food then leave without telling anybody
>>1346616It wouldn't be too difficult to find him, we have babadi and kami, plus we could still used it to learn the basic concept of instant transmission from goku and waste way less time to figure it out. If we really can't find Mutaito, then dragon balls are always a last resort.
>>1346616We could easily ask Kami to locate Mutaito.
>>1346631>plus we could still used itby it, I mean telepathy obviously, it would just be a good idea to try to learn that again. I know I'm pushing it pretty hard but it we can't cheese our way to power like saiyans can with super saiyan. We need to train our base strength insanely bad, learn new techniques, improve the techniques, further develop our ki control, and think outside the box without going meta or just full retard. We could also try to improve the kuma-ken I guess, but It seems like too risky right now to waste energy on, and improving our base will make our current capabilities with the kuma-ken that much better anyway.
>>1346589How's Big Green treating not-17? Does he see him as a true protege?
>>1346668I think the fact that he's been keeping him around speaks volumes. Most regular humans couldn't even hack training under Piccolo, much less put up with his abrasive attitude.
>>1346613>Z-Sword Kori>Power Pole Konnatsu>Ki Blade TrunksI accept this potential future timeline.
>>1346677I just feel like she'd be put it to the best use of any fighter currently available.She's pretty damn clever in how she fights, and that goes well with a weapon as versatile as the Power Pole.
>>1346570Thanks for the session, glad I could finally participate.
>>1346720Would it be a better idea to host our party on Kami's lookout, or at Capsule Corporation?
>>1346745I figure if we're gonna be hosting gods, we should do it on the lookout.
>>1346745>>1346810Guys BEERUS is going to crash the party and you damned well know it.
>>1346815Why would Beerus crash the party? He should be sleeping at this point in the timeline.
>>1346815Man, you know that mother still asleep!
>>1346815we can only hope.without brats or buu to annoy him beerus is somewhat manageable.
Not really relevant, but I'm still bummed Appule bailed on us. I like him as an addition to the team. Oh well. Hopefully we can get some weird team mates like him again.
>>1347121same senpai. Feels horrible
>>1347131Maybe we could do some space travel training for three years with Bulma and Trunks and try to find Appule and that Saiyan girl... Just for the fun of it.
>>1346338>>1346657I'm not really sure telepathy can be used in such a fashion, but a: it seems worth a shot and b: should absolutely be something Kami can teach us.
>>1347179Thank you, all I'm saying is that it's not a difficult skill to learn and either weA) unlock the fundamentals of master level ki control and maybe instant transmissionOrB)at the very least we waste like a couple hours at most, still learn a useful utility that could come in handy later, and still have like 3 years to improve ourselves anyway.
Look what I got fuckers.
So, before we go through 3 years of gains, how are the Z-Fighters & co. ranked in terms of power?GokuFuture TrunksPiccoloTofooKoriTenshinhanChiaotzuMutaitoKrillinMaster RoshiShenChi-ChiYamchaKonnatsuLapisYajirobeAm I missing anyone?
>>1347974I think we would be stronger than piccolo, but then again I'm honestly not sure how strong that fruit piccolo ate made him.
>>1347993We seemed pretty close before he ate the fruit, that why I ranked him above us.
>>1347996That's fair, I wonder how much stronger he is now.
I guess its okay for piccolo to eat the fruit ultimately. At least in canon, he relied quite a lot of in fusions with other namekians to get stronger, so maybe eating the fruit will make him bypass the need to fuse with Kami.
>>1348165Fuck that, Kami needs to get in the angsty Namekian so we can become God.
>>1348191But Kami is Tofoo's one true friend and the only one who understands him.We can't let Tofoo's one true friend die just for a power up the other guy doesn't even need in this setting, what with fruit power plus kaioken
>>1348238He doesn't really die, it's implied that when they fuse they become the otiginal person they once were, but with evil in their hearts almost entirely cleansed from killinh the original evil piccolo, current piccolo slowly becoming a good person through out the series, and nail being part of the mix. I'm not sure how the fully fused piccolo would turn out now though.
>>1348238Agreed.Also if or when Fusion becomes a thing I'd like to fuse with Kami.
>>1346570>>1346546>party with the kaisGlad to see my suggestion from so long ago actually made it to the story!
>>1348417No doc please, I don't want my dose today
>>1348668He's already getting his dose from Daimao in HFIL!
>>1348417I wasn't participating back then but I'm glad you guys choose to murder the shit out of Vegeta instead of sparing him. Fucker never had any business joining the good guys.
Could Goku stack Kumaken on top of Super Saiyan, SOM?
>>1348729>Giving Goku a x500 power boostFucker what are you even smoking?
>>1348729probably not, but if he could then he would surpass the initial version of super saiyan 3, and without the insane energy usage too, which is a pretty scary thought.
>>1348810Seriously, that puts him so far out of everyone's league we'd need to learn God Ki AND suck off the Grand Kai in order to have a hope of catching up.
>>1348729When it comes to Ki Mastery, i'm pretty sure Goku isn't even in the same league as usBut when we Fuse in the Buu Saga, then we'll talk
>>1348862Would we be Toku or Gofoo?
>>1348891Sounds like a tofu burrito...More importantly, I wonder if SOM will use the retcon Super implemented for the earrings.
>>1348872Toku for Fusion danceGofoo for Potara earrings.
>>1348908>DanceThat's assuming Goku, or us, even, die during the coming sagas and spend enough time in Otherworld to learn Fusion.
>>1348929Oh come on, you know one of us is going to end up dying.
>>1348837>using super saiyan 2 with with kuma-kenat that point we might as well retire, cause there is no catching up with that bullshit.
>>1348945Sure, with that attitude, maybe.>>1348948At that point we open our Bear Style Dojo.
>>1348975Well if Super has proven anything it's that even people like Krillin can be useful again.
>>1348983Which is why I've really been enjoying Super. Relying more on one's fighting prowess and ingenuity instead of how hard they can punch and how many power ups they have is a breath of fresh air for the series.
>>1348975I don't know why people want a dojo so bad, it's a good idea for when we're way older and not training as much physically, but right now when we're in our early 20's and training our asses off to defend the earth against world ending threats it would cut into our own personal growth. We're already cutting into our training to be with our family, it seems like a bad idea to cut out even more time for teaching. Let's at least wait till like after the Majin Buu saga.
Hey guys, due to assignments and other nonsense, I won't be running tonight, though I will be popping in and out if anybody has questions or anything.I'm planning to run tomorrow
>>1349012Well, you said stacking SS2 with Kuma-Ken, which would imply nearing the end of the Cell Saga. Speaking from a meta-gaming standpoint, movies aside, there isn't much to do during the time skip.Yes, we could still train plenty, but why wouldn't we want to teach others our style? Trunks, Kori, Konnatsu, even? Think of it this way:Trunks will eventually be going to school, yes? We do our intensive training while he's at school, and then run some after school sessions for children and adults alike.Hell, there was this Dojo I grew up in when my mom was in Karate, and the husband and wife who ran it didn't run every day, and some days they'd have classes all day, and others would be spread out.So, yeah, opening a Dojo wouldn't mean the end of our gains, it might slow it down a bit, but even Goku has to till his farm.>>1349065No probs, SOM. Just take care of you and yours before us, hombre.
>>1349089If it's just training a couple of people like trunks, kori, and konnatsu then I'm down for it. I'm still not sure about starting a dojo so early but I guess it wouldn't hurt to at least think about it after the cell saga. I just feel like we have bigger priorities at the moment, but I still see your point.>>1349065No worries Som, your real life stuff is more important. quick question though, would you see the telepathy thing I've been throwing out there as a reasonable way of learning from ki control theory from Mutaito, or should we just give up on it?
>>1349089>movies aside, there isn't much to do during the time skipOnly three movies happen during the timeskip, and SOM said that he'd only be doing one of them.
>>1349130I can't recall, did he say which one?
>>1349133He's not doing Broly 2 or Bio-Broly, so that just leaves Bojack.
>>1349128Seems kinda broken
>>1349139Those weren't during the time skip though, right? Videl was present for Second Coming, and Bio-Broly sometime after that.I can't blame him for not wanting to do them though, screen time for Videl and 18 aside, they were pretty piss poor.
>>1349130That's alot of time inbetween sagas. Hopefully we can get way stronger during all that time. base strength obviously, but I'd like us to learn some some new techniques too. I've been really interested in trying to learn that nail gun ability one anon has talked about in a few of the previous threads.>>1349139Thank god, I can deal with at least the first Broly movie, but the other ones after sucked.>>1349147Really? it's not like we'd instantly learn and master it, just that we would understand the concept and make it easier to learn. I guess I'll accept giving it up if GM says it's not allowed but is that a definite no?
>>1349147SOM, could I ask a favor of you, pretty please? My brother, who died in a car crash on his way from chemo to dialysis, was a massive vore fetishist, so in his honor, could you please make the scenes where Cell absorbs people and the androids as graphic and erotic as you possibly can? It would mean the world to me. >>1349155She was? I'll be honest, I sort of blanked Broly 2 and 3 out of my memory. >>1349157Oh yeah, we can do stuff during the timeskip, but there's only one movie that happened during it.
>>1349167Yeah, she was chilling with Goten and Trunks, hunting for dragonballs. She wore the sacrificial damsel dress in the village, I think. Though, I think this was supposed to be during her training with Gohan, because Goku was still dead and the boys weren't fusing.And Bio-Broly is a bit harder to place, but it was at least after the tournament with Supreme Kai... I remember even less from that movie, save for the fact that 18 was a primary character.I only recall this because my fiance admitted to having never watched any of the Broly movies when TFS' Broly movie dropped, so I reluctantly had her watch them.
>>1349193Goku was still dead during Bio-Broly wasn't he? I thought that he appeared as a ghost to tell Goten to git gud or something.
>>1349201Probably. I think I remember something about 18 trying to collect her money from Mr. Satan, so it could have taken place after Goku left and before the kids properly learned to fuse?Ultimately, it doesn't really matter. SOM's not running them, the movies are pretty trashy, and only a complete sociopath would bother considering them canon.
>>1349235Considering how far we've deviated from canon, it wouldn't be too difficult to drop the details and just use the premise of Broly coming back, either way though I'm happy that Som isn't doing them. The Broly movies were just so bad.
>>1349458TeamFourStar summed Broly up pretty well with Vegeta's reactions."HE'S SO COOL. BUT HE'S SO STUPID!"
>>1349458>>1349473We'll see what happens with Broly. I'm planning to have him make an appearance, but who knows what his larger role will be?
>>1349540I'm really curious how you do this since Vegeta is dead and Paragus can't take out his hate boner on him.I doubt we'll befriend Broly, but I'm kind of holding out hope in the quiet part of my heart for Paragus. Same with Tarble and that Saiyan girl you had us run into.
>>1349561>Yfw Paragus kidnaps Chi Chi because he found out she's the one who killed Vegeta, so he wants her to be Broly's bride, so everyone has to chase after them to rescue her.I mean that's what I'd do.
>>1349561Tarble will appearWe'll see what happens with the Saiyan lady
>>1349566I don't know how the hell I keep forgetting Chi-Chi is so badass. Maybe it because I hate her so much after DragonBall in canon.>>1349575I got faith in you, SOM.
>>1349575Tarble? cool, I'm wondering how you'll introduce Broly and paragus though. Also, is the telepathy thing allowed? I just want to know if I should hold out for it or just drop it and think of something else.
>>1349591I mean, she does kind of job alot in this quest>>1349609Sounds brokenI have plans for Broly and Paragus
>>1349612aw that sucks, guess I'll just drop it then. Party for the kais it is then.
>>1349612>I have plans for Broly and ParagusBroly, Paragus, Kakarot, Tarble, and Kori are who you're planning for the SSG ritual? If there aren't enough Saiyans, can there be a Human God ritual? Or a Namekian God ritual?
>>1349612Yeah, but she's a lot more enjoyable than Toriyama's Chi-Chi... I understand that she always wanted to get married and have a family, but I think it's good that she steps up to fight because she's a capable fighter. She also just developed an absolute shitty personality after popping out a baby.>>1349651I can't imagine Kori staying an only child.
>>1349661She fights to protect her family, especially her daughter. Really, beyond sparring, she hates fighting.
>>1349612could we use low level telepathy along with ki sense and feeling air currents to more accurately predict and react to enemy attacks?>>1349661honestly after a certain point Toriyama was just phoning this stuff in.i havent seen super, but if he remembered his cast is bigger than four or five I will be happy.
>>1349699hmmmm cautious hype.worth it?the last thing I saw was GT, so...
>>1349720The first 27 episodes are longer rehashes of Battle of Gods and Resurrection F.Up through 46 is a questionable tournament for Beerus and his brother to have a pissing match.Up through episode 76 is Future Trunks stuff which was... a Cheesy type of fun. Kind of like when RZA does kung fu movies.And the current saga, which is 8 episodes in, is kind of a slow start but it picked up really quickly and the last couple episodes have been really, really fun.So far, it's leagues better than GT.
>>1349575Just please make Broly's motivation not retarded and give him an actual personality,
>>1349766>So far, it's leagues better than GT.I know Super is decent and all, but I think you can come up with a better compliment than that.
>>1349867this, I would love to do the first movie(and only the first) but fuck that origin story is retarded as hell.
>>1349872I mean I think the baby super saiyan stuff and the fact that he steamrolled the main cast is cool. But the fact that his motivation is a crying baby and all he ever did was sperg out was a let down.
>>1349871If you've already seen the two super movies, than you can just straight up skip the first two arcs unless you want to see all the extra scenes they added.while it's not as good as z, super is pretty decent and while the universe 6 vs universe 7 tournament is ok, the filler episodes are funny if you're into toriyama's sense of gag comedy, and the black/future trunk's arc is good, if somewhat campy. Plus the new arc they're doing now is starting to look pretty good, but it hasn't gotten to the main parts yet so I'll wait till I pass judgement. Overall, while it isn't as amazing as db fans wanted it to be, it's still fun to watch and a lot better than GT as a continuation to the story(although I never really disliked GT). If you haven't seen it yet and you have the free time I say go for it.
>>1349894Wrong guy. I've been keeping up with Super since it started.I just got miffed because "leagues better" isn't nearly as big as the gap in entertainment between Super and GT actually is.
>>1349880I agree, with how cool the character is it's ridiculous how his motivation is so stupid. How would he even remember another baby crying next to him, let alone their name? the whole just didn't make sense. TFS did a good job with it though.
>>1349871It balances the humor from DB and the action from DBZ really well.
>>1349917Yeah. TFS did good. Shame about their videos getting pulled again though.I hope if we see Broly in the quest that he actually gets some development as a character.His design is too good to have been wasted on his retarded backstory.
>>1349914Oh sorry. I must confess something though, while I didn't particularly enjoy GT, I actually kind of liked super saiyan 4. I know everyone hates it but I always thought it made sense that for a group of monkey tailed warriors that could multiply their strength by turning into giant apes would have a legendary transformation be monkey-ish in appearance. Like, why gold hair? I just always thought that was weird.
>>1349945Yeah. 4 makes sense when you look into just how 3 came about; an imperfect mesh of SSJ2 and a botched Oozaru transformation.
>>1349937I know this is probably not gonna happen, but I would love to actually recruit Broly, he was just wasted so badly and it would be great to have him around as a character. Cell would've been cool too, since there are alternate endings from games and manga. Definitely not gonna happen, but it's still fun to think about.
>>1349965Yeah. I think our best chance for tertiary character recruitment might be Tarbles or Tapion.
>>1349945None of the designs were bad, in fact, I think Toriyama evem did character designs for GT. At least for Baby and ssj4.
>>1349993Didn't he also do Pan's outfit?Anyways, Dr. Myuu, the para brothers, and Syn Shenron look like ass.
>>1349993I don't know if he designed them, or if he just gave advise, but either way I really liked the character designs. Baby and Baby Vegeta were definitely my favorite villian designs and the baby arc was one of the few GT arcs I genuinely enjoyed.
>>1350020Always a few nuggets of gold in a pile of shit I guess.
>>1350018I think so, but I'm not 100% sure.And yes, they did. >>1350020Agreed.>>1350033Like getting to see Android 18's pushup bra during her brother's FUCKING TERRIBLE SAGAI also particularly salty that Uub got shit on pretty hard.
>>1350083It's things like Uub in GT and Gohan in early Super that hurt me the most.
>>1350096I'm glad we're on the same page, anon.I was really hoping Super would have picked up immediately after Uub was introduced.
>>1350115I hope we get something with Uub. Like a continuation inbetween EOZ and GT. Maybe an OVA or something like that
>>1349867I will do my best
>>1350096I haven't seen GT in a very long time so maybe I just don't remember the reason but why was Uub so bad? I don't remember him being used all that much to begin with, at least until later when they do the whole fusion into super Uub thing.
>>1350131I guess it really depends on how much GT stuff SOM wants to work into the quest and if he's going to deal with much Super stuff with Super still going.I mean, he could easily push back the Super stuff to EOZ era. I dunno.
>>1350140We know how little you have to work with and we appreciate it, you are doing god's work.
So I just watched the latest episode of super, no spoilers since it just came out like an hour ago with subtitles but so far this arc has been great, at least for me.
>>1350146If Uub shows up in the quest I will be extremely hype.
>>1350159We have options specifically for spoilers
>>1350143They barely showed his training, and then he got left behind on Earth despite the fact the Goku made a big deal in Z about training him.It seemed like whoever was writing didn't really know what to do with him, and even when he powered up by fusing with Majin Buu, he couldn't do shit and jobbed.And then he just kind of faded away into the backround after being Papayaman in a world martial arts tournament.It was just... Sad. The missed potential. It just seemed like they didn't want to bother developing a new cast member beside Pan. >>1350163likewise.
>>1350176Oh that's what you guys meant. Yeah, looking back they definitely wasted his character. I'm hoping super does better with him but they haven't done any time skips like they did with both db and z so I'm not sure if they'll ever use him.
>>1350176Would've made a lot of sense for Uub go along with Goku and Pan instead of Trunks.
GT was better than Super has been so far desu, Super 17 and Golden Frieza are equally bad, Baby was more interesting than Battle of Gods, and the Shadow Dragons were more fun and, interesting, and consistent than Gas the Plot, Fanwank Now!
>>1350207The art was better in GT because it was consistent, but that's about all I'll give you aside from designs and the baby saga. Shadow Dragons were a decent idea, just poorly executed.At least we can agree on Super 17.
>>1350201I think they were just trying to recreate dragon ball with the whole adventure angle and kid goku, but they probably realized Trunks didn't have young Bulma's shitty personality and gave it to pan instead. All they needed was oolong (which I guess Guro represented?) and a pair of bandits to follow them and it would have been dragon ball in space. Then they realized how shitty the beginning was and went back to earth and try to salvage the show. As far as most people are concerned, it didn't work.
>>1350241>Shadow Dragons were a decent idea, just poorly executed.You could say the same thing about Zamasu, but the ending of the Future Trunks Arc and the fights were worse than the end of the Shadow Dragons Arc. Even though he's a jacked catfish, Omega Shenron looks better than 47 Chromosome Merged Zamasu.
>>1350250I wont argue that. It was fun for a bit, but dragged on and got weird.Much like the shadow dragon saga!Zamasu's preachy ningen shit was annoying as fuck, and, personally, I'd say his melty bod and Omega Shenron were on the same shitty tier design wise. Honestly, that's been Super's weak point since it started for me. Questionable character designs and poor pacing. But the tone of it is still way better, as are the characters themselves. The humor it pretty good too.
>>1350389At least he's sexy as fuck.
>>1350419>>1350429Well, Bulma thought so
>>1350632That universe's Bulma had poor taste.
>>1350670>Not appreciating a true God
You know what would be cool? an other world tournament arc. I would love to see us fight guys like pikkon, olibu, and chapuchai. Probably won't happen as we would need to be dead again, but damn that would be fun to think about. Too bad olibu probably hates us now though, burning bridges with the only human in existance to push his base strength past full power Frieza and the capability to train us was a terrible idea, even if we did end up developing kuma-ken. I want to see if we can try training with him via time room, or at least try to patch things up with the real guy.
>>1350956What about a Galaxy tournament arc with no bullshit acid spitters.
>>1350956Don't think Olibu hates us since that world is basically there for martial artists to gather and learn from each other and gain a chance to be trained under Gran Kai. We basically gave him a wake up call on what he needed to improve with his fighting. He was basically a stronger Nappa that relied only on his strength.
>>1350956>>1351084I wonder how he would feel if we interrupted is 10,000 year training by wishing him back to life...
>>1351084I mean, he willingly cut into his own training to teach us, then when he was sparring with us to see how strong we were, we ended up using our ki blades slicing him up, and after blinding him with solar flare we basically told him to fuck off because a bunch of anons were all pissed off about the fact that olibu hadn't taught us anything, despite the fact we just met the guy like five minutes earlier. Then we just walked away and chose to focus on using the kaio-ken we even though SOM keeps telling us that if we just train our base really hard and developed our techniques that we ciuld keep and stay relevant. Yet so many people, despite being told otherwise by the fucking GM, were still so afraid of saiyans that they just wanted to make their own version to heep up and we only just barely made that roll. Successfully creating the kuma-ken was the only reason I didn't get super pissed off reading that thread, but the entire thing seemed so stupid to me, almost as bad as the acid incident.
>>1351753It's a som quest, what do you expect? They've never been of high quality because of the anons and his dry writing style.Just be glad he doesn't railroad us as much as he used to.
>>1351753yeah, we acted like a massive bitch to Olibu. He said to fight him with all we had, and we went at him with cheap tricks.which is a shame, because hes one of the very few humans to get shit done. I am still convinced he threw that fight after realizing how arrogant Tofoo was. just so he wouldnt have to waste any more time.hopefully this training arc we can get back to core anime values of hell training and friendship.
>>1352008Part of me wants to go back to basics.Ask King Kai if he knows of any heavy material in the universe, like that shit that broke the z-sword, and have Bulma make us clothes from it, or something to will increase localized gravity around us.Then find a planet that had terrible weather conditions and terrains and punch climb mountains and fight awful wildlife that could fuck us up, and swim in, like, acidic waters...Maybe we could do that in the pendulum room.And while another part of me is saying the gains would be pitiful from that kind of training, I can't help but think of how that's the only way Piccolo trains and he gains pretty well.I know we should be spending time with our family, and training with our friends... But back to basics might be for the best.>>1351955Why are you here if you don't like the people you're playing with or the GM?
>>1351753But anon, exactly what could've Olibu teach Tofoo? He was just a brute force warrior, and being super strong without power ups was no big deal considering he had several milleniums worth of training above Tofoo.In fact, that Tofoo got as strong as he is in merely 15 years of training unlike Olibu who had thousands of years of training of advantage means that there was not much he could teach. Besides, if Olibu was that good, he shouldn't have feel for Tofoo's cheap tricks that most major characters seems to be able to dodge or at least bruteforce through them.>>1352020No, fuck basics. That was good when we were in human tier power AKA up to the end of dragon ball, when raw physical training was good because having a strong body made Tofoo a tank, but with the advent of almost entirely ki focused combat and Ki being used to boost speed and defense, merely getting physical gains is a bad idea. Instead, he should do specialized training like meditating and performing ki enhacement training while under intense gravity pressure or something like that to strengthen the power and control of his Ki and get some physical gains as a side thing.
>>1352028Dude, I've also been arguing for Ki control gains and meditation and learning from Mutaito. At this point though, doing both kinds of training seems important. Gains all around, increase the power of base form, because goddammit we can't rely on fucking wishing on the dragonballs for more power.
I say we focus on these four things for training1. Increasing our base power2. Perfecting the Ki Sword3. Learning Instant Transmission 4. Mastering Ki Control
>>13521025. create a big stupid attack that can rock our enemies to their cores.
>>1352028While it is true olibu focuses on melee and strength, it's shown in the show that he is a capable warrior with immense amounts of skill and discipline. Hell before goku, olibu was considered the greatest warrior in the north quadrant. He developed his strength and found the best way for humans to train and get stronger through thousands of years of trial and error, he could have shown as a mucher more efficient forms of training as well as work out our weaknesses in battle. Plus, we're basically the tank/melee combatant of the team, most of our abilities are geared towards melee combat, and having a veteran warrior with a similar type of fighting style show us some tips would have been helpful. Also I like to think that ki control as part of basic training so I agree training in it is a good idea.
>>1352102I disagree and counter with>1. Mastering Ki Control>2. Learning how to heal people with our Ki from Mutaito or somebody else.>3. Increase Base Power>4. Instant Transmission....SO yeah I only half-disagree.
>>1352102I don't know how we could perfect the ki blade, I suppose we could try making it bigger or adding electricity to it. Maybe shaping it? That feels like that's way tto advanced for us right now though. The other stuff on your list sound good.
>>1352102>>1352178>1. Learning Instant Transmission from Goku>2. Learning Ki Control/healing from Mutaito>3. Master Ki Control and Instant Transmission>4. INCREASE BASE FORM>5. Create some big earth shaking move for dire situations.Increasing base form should be our biggest concern, but we also need to figure out how to properly utilize Instant Transmission and Mutaito's Ki mastery.Gravity chamber, friends and the pendulum room can all help with that, along with plenty of meditation.
>>1352401The gravity room will allow us to build up our base/ki control. Pendulum room will allow us to test ourselves against opponents and learn from previous martial artists without wasting actual time, plus we can have kami spectate and help us figure what we did wrong and what we need to improve, sort of like a post game play by play where we can experiment with no real drawbacks or danger. Finally, we'll nwed to train with goku in order to help build each other up and learn the instant transmission from him.
>>1352985I still think learning from Mutaito is an opportunity we can't pass up. That is, if we can even find him.Sparring with everyone else every so often would probably be a good idea too. Keeps up fresh and them motivated.
>>1353043Yeah. Let's not be canon goku, who only lets other saiyans to share his special trainings.Everybody deserves to know our training methods and if they want, to use them as well. Although I half-expect the egos of some of them to prevent them from accepting
>>1352401I don't really feel like improving base form is all that necessary, since perfecting the Kuma Ken seems to have done wonders for Future Trunks.
>>1353276You don't really know what Future Trunks' base form is strength wise, though.
>>1352020I've been here since his first quest anon. I'm always here.
>>1353294Good for you, but when the DM is dropping blatant hints left and right to focus on our base form, at some point, I think we should focus on our base form.Plus, we had 1 year to create the Kuma-Ken. This time we have 3 years, I think we could at least spare some of that time working on base.
>>1353276His base strength has to be really high though, with how easy he handled freeza and cold. His kuma-ken doesn't seem to be any different from ours, which shows how much stronger he is. We can't always rely on kuma-ken and ignore building our base strength. Especially when it's what the kuma-ken. Think of it this way, which is larger, 10x10, or 100x10? Think of the first number as our current power level nd the second number what we could be with training. Also for techniques to learn besides instant transmission, I'm think golden shout and nail gun. I'll describe them if no one remembers.
>>1353322Is Golden Shout just an upgraded form of Bear Shout? Like Nappa's mouth blast? I don't recall Nail Gun, but I'm also on some harsh pain meds, so refresh my memory.
>>1353350Golden shout-an uprgraded version of bear's roar(or super bear shot) basically a super bear shout with ki based electricity added to it to thoroughly destroy an opponent, while the beam itself will envelop the target and scorch them from the outside, the electricity will reek pure havoc on the insides like a hotdog in a microwave. Anyone that gets hit by this will not standing without taking immense damage, if they even survive incineration.Nail gun-essentially a fusion of the piercing aspect of the kienzan and the ki blade, shoots a barrage of small ki spear projectiles that riddle through a target like a gatling gun, similar to black goku's piercing shots that he used on goku, albeit smaller and with many more shots in general. I'm mostly paraphrasing but this is the gist of what the moves do.
>>1353426Cool, cool. I can dig on both of those.Something grand and extravagant and something tactical.
>>1353439Yeah they're pretty cool, I wasn't even the one to suggest either of them but damn if they don't sound useful.
I like the nail gun idea but we should pick up Dodonpa I feel like it can mix well with the nail gun idea
>>1353498like a multibeam shot? that would be pretty cool. I don't see the dodonpa being all that difficult to learn anyway, especially since tofoo seems to have have the best ki-control in the group. We could also take the ki blade and play around with it, like making it longer like a ki sword, or adding electricity to it to do more damage. We could also blunt it like a energy based boxing glove that can make our punches hit way harder.
>>1353629Like bear claw? Or like a boxing glove of ki surrounding our fist?
>>1353639>>1353629Obviously it would be a bear claw.Much like Goku's Dragon Fist.GUYS.IT'S PERFECT.
>>1353639like a boxing glove, bear claw charges our fist to do explosive damage, the blunt ki would wrap around our fist and bash an enemy instead of stabbing them, so instead of charging and releasing the energy like bear claw, it would be like ki blade where it just stays on till we release it.
>>1353652If we are doing it like Goku's super dragon fist I want the move to have a bear totem>>1353657Okay I can see that but I would prefer perfecting the ki blade.
>>1353652Like a super bear claw? where we wrap ourselves in explosive energy, charge it up, and just grape train the fuck out of someone? That sounds like a pretty kick ass melee finisher, we could use one too since our only ultimate move is a ranged beam.
>>1353657Also forgot to mention this would pair well with our flashy combo, damn I can't remember the name
>>1353667>>1353670https://youtu.be/b9MRuWa7G9M?t=87But with a big angry bear.
>>1353667What does perfecting the ki-blade entail? It's a pretty basic technique, I honestly can't see it being any better than it actually is now unless use make variations to it like making it longer, electrify it, or just using more energy. but that's just making different versions of it, not actually perfecting it in anyway, can you explain what you mean?
>>1353682that sounds awesome and I would love to have that as a finisher but my only concern is the energy usage. Didn't goku need to absorb a spirit bomb and use the energy to perform the dragon fist? If we made a similar move, how would we be able to produce the energy needed without weakening the move itself? Also what would we call it, it's not important but I can't think of anything cool and an ult like that deserves a cool name.
>>1353683Being able to hold it almost indefinitely while minimizing it's energy cost, being able to elongate and shorten it at will, electrifying it would probably be harder. Possibly even pouring our Kuma Ken energy directly from our body to the blade and super charging it. Love me some Shining Finger Sword
>>1353701I'm pretty sure we can already hold it without any real strain or energy cost, but we'd have to double check with som first. Assuming we are though, learning to change the length of the blade to fit our needs seems like a reasonable way to making the ki blade stronger. electriying it doesn't sound too difficult considering we can already do that with our fist, we'll just need some practice with it and it would definitely be worth the hassle.
>>1353700I dunno, bear maul? Alternatively it could eventually be an upgraded form of something more akin to a Wolf Fang Fist + Ki Sword + Bear Shout.Something like... We encase our fists in bear claws and make lots of swiping melee attacks and punches with our razor sharp ki claws, and then when we end the attack with the double palm strike we can either have our palms resemble the bear's maw and then fire a blast from it, or we could just shoot it from our mouth as a bonus.Eventually, when we're leagues stronger, we can upgrade it to Dragon Fist levels of insane energy consumption.
>>1353723the wolf fang fist ki blade combo sounds like a great idea, plus we could charge the bear shout throughout the combo so that it'll be that much stronger when we hit them with it. Sound like that would require some concentration though. Bear maul is a great name for that combo, we can call the super finisher something else when we develop it. There's so many cool techniques we could develop, it's a shame we probably won't be able to make all of this before the androids arrive.
>>1353741I mean, we have 3 years. I don't know that creating the Bear Maul would be as difficult as creating the Kuma-Ken. If we're looking at the priorities we had before, like learning instant transmission, learning ki control/healing from mutaito and increasing our base form, we should be able to work in time for The Bear Maul, and maybe even some variations of the Ki Blade. We don't need to completely master instant transmission, ki control/healing, Bear Maul and Ki Blade variants, but if we can establish them as part of our repertoire we can hone them through combat and practice over time.Just as long as we're remembering to strengthen our base form.
Yeah, three years should be enough to learn all of that. After all, Tofoo is a quick learner and he is the warrior with the highest degree of ki mastery after Mutaito. Surely he must have a much easier time developing new/improving old techniques whose basics involves ki control than anyone else
Anyway I think we should stick with raising our base power and more ki mastery training, everything else I'll leave to use guys. Please does anyone remember the name of our melee combo that we used in tournaments I think it's based of something from KoF
>>1353755>>1353769>>1353778 Ok so I think that we're all in agreement to what we should be focusing on for the next three years from most important to least important>Training base/ki control/meditation>learning instant transmission>develop new/improving old techniques>kick ass finisherWe all ok with this or is there anything anyone wants to add or change?
>>1353810Lots of people wanted to learn IT, it's a great technique for utility and combat purposes but I could care less if we get it or now. We'd have to dedicate one of our years or even more if the dice don't favor us to learn it and I'd rather spend that doing other training
>>1353820Down the rung it goes>Training base/ki control/meditation>develop new/improving old techniques>learning instant transmission>kick ass finisherAnything else? I'd like everyone to be satisfied with what tofoo does before next session, since there's no game today anyway.
>>1353823Get our body to react against attacks we can't sense or cut the reaction time further. Since we know from experience that androids don't exert any ki.
>>1353778Power Geyser, finally remembered
>>1353844that would probably be part of base training, but I can still add it just in case.>Training base/ki control/meditation>Get our body to react against attacks we can't sense or cut the reaction time further(part of base training)>develop new/improving old techniques>learning instant transmission>kick ass finisher
Oh I also forgot, I wanted to improve the afterimage I think in the tourney Mutaito or Chun showed off an improved afterimage
>>1353886That'll be under techniques>Training base/ki control/meditationGet our body to react against attacks we can't sense or cut the reaction time further(part of base training)>develop new/improving old techniquesgolden shoutnail gunimprove ki blade-length-electricity-blunt ki fistInstant transmissionimprove afterimage>learning instant transmissionas stated above, but with added importance>kick ass finisherBear maul(Wolf Fang Fist + Ki Sword + Bear Shout combo)Dragon fist(but with a bear, name still in development)Golden Roar(bear roar+golden shout or super golden shout)Kuma-kenx2?(probably shouldn't focus on this at all due to most likely being extremely difficult and too much time being needed to develop this despite high chance of failure or stagnation. Still deserves a mention though)I miss anything anyone wants to add
>>1353946>Dragon fist(but with a bear, name still in development)Kodiak Crash?
That is a lot of stuff but we should shorten that list to maybe 3 things since we have three years. Each year spent focusing on one thing but still the most important would be raising our base power. So for example. Year 1, Base power + another focus like ki mastery Year 2, Base power + >>1353988 I like Kuma CrusherAnd so on
>>1353988>>1353991Dude, Kodiak Crash and Kuma Crusher are so much better than the Bear Maul name I came up with.
>>1353988That sounds cool>Training base/ki control/meditation1)Get our body to react against attacks we can't sense or cut the reaction time further(part of base training)>develop new/improving old techniques1)golden shout2)nail gun3)improve ki blade-length-electricity-blunt ki fist4)Instant transmission5)improve afterimage>learning instant transmissionas stated above, but with added importance>kick ass finisher1)Bear maul(Wolf Fang Fist + Ki Sword + Bear Shout combo)2)Kodaik Crash/Kurma crusher(Dragon fist but with a bear, name still in development)3)Golden Roar(bear roar+golden shout or super golden shout)4)Kuma-kenx2?(probably shouldn't focus on this at all due to most likely being extremely difficult and too much time being needed to develop this despite high chance of failure or stagnation. Still deserves a mention though)We can all vote for the name later>>1353991We're probably not going to do every single thing on this list, I'm just putting in all the reasonable ideas the thread has been discussing to make it easier to review during next session. We'll just choose what to focus on when the time comes for actual training, when everyone is on and decides by majority vote. Plus, It's a good idea to have this list so that we can use it again for after the android/cell saga since we've got like seven years afterwards, which is more than enough time to learn moves on the list that most people were interested in learning but didn't have time to spend on it during the three year period. Odds are I'll develop the list of potential new moves to create as the quest goes on so that we don't forget cool moves that we could've have learned but just couldn't at the time for whatever reason.
>>1354025I'm using the the name bear maul for the combo move you thought up instead of the dragon/bear fist, we can use kodiak crash and kuma crusher for the dragon/bear fist and another finisher when someone thinks of a new one.
>>1354025And don't sell yourself short, bear maul is a pretty cool name too.
>>1354035Ah, okay, got'cha. Misread while trying to watching last week's Super.>>1354040Thanks anon. I'm just glad to finally be contributing to the quest. I sat quiet for far too long.
>>1354029Alright well don't forget to add the Dodonpa it's one of the few human techniques we haven't learned along with Kikoho but I rather Tien stick with that since his hallmark Shin Kikoho is truly a destructive technique. The Dodonpa is important mostly since it's a piercing technique and we don't have any of those.Wanted to suggest something similar to the bear claw but kind of a simple technique. Just Ki nails, call it Shin Bear Claw or something.
>>1354056adding dodonpa to the list, it shouldn't even be that difficult to learn anyway and i'll add kikoho too. I like the shin bear claw idea, mostly because it was what the bear claw was originally supposed to be anyway, plus it'll be a good utility that can be used in ways the a straight blade like the ki blade can't.>Training base/ki control/meditation1)Get our body to react against attacks we can't sense or cut the reaction time further(part of base training)>develop new/improving old techniques1)golden shout2)nail gun3)improve ki blade-length-electricity-blunt ki fist4)Instant transmission5)improve afterimage6)dodonpa7)kikoho8)shin bear claw(basically ki nails, pretty simple)>learning instant transmissionas stated above, but with added importance>kick ass finisher1)Bear maul(Wolf Fang Fist + Ki Sword + Bear Shout combo)2)Kodaik Crash/Kurma crusher(Dragon fist but with a bear, name still in development)3)Golden Roar(bear roar+golden shout or super golden shout)4)Kuma-kenx2?(probably shouldn't focus on this at all due to most likely being extremely difficult and too much time being needed to develop this despite high chance of failure or stagnation. Still deserves a mention though)
>>1354071List looks good, anything else I missed or that someone thought of?
>>1354078Potentially learning healing from Mutaito, but I supposed that could just be lumped in with ki control.
>>1354146got it, healing is on the list under basic/ki control>Training base/ki control/meditation1)Get our body to react against attacks we can't sense or cut the reaction time further(part of base training)2)healing/ki manipulation invented by Mutaito>develop new/improving old techniques1)golden shout2)nail gun3)improve ki blade-length-electricity-blunt ki fist4)Instant transmission5)improve afterimage6)dodonpa7)kikoho8)shin bear claw(basically ki nails, pretty simple)>learning instant transmissionas stated above, but with added importance>kick ass finisher1)Bear maul(Wolf Fang Fist + Ki Sword + Bear Shout combo)2)Kodaik Crash/Kurma crusher(Dragon fist but with a bear, name still in development)3)Golden Roar(bear roar+golden shout or super golden shout)4)Kuma-kenx2?(probably shouldn't focus on this at all due to most likely being extremely difficult and too much time being needed to develop this despite high chance of failure or stagnation. Still deserves a mention though)Glad you reminded me, anything else or is everyone satisfied with the list?
>>1354239Yeah, seems pretty legit for a 3 year training period. 4, if we end up having to be in the hyperbolic time chamber for Cell.
>>1354239How about a Ki Shield/Sheath for our off hand/arm? We have a blade, why not have something to offset the damage we'll take as we rush in to use it. It only needs to cover just enough to lessen the damage we'll take. It should also not take as much Ki as we're not projecting it away from our body like the blade.
>>1354285Personally, I'd like to save the hyperbolic time chamber till cell, not during the 3 year period, but yeah I think everyone did a good thinking up good ideas for us to try. I'm proud of all you faggots.
>>1354308Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. The time span between the training ending with the androids attacking and when they go back into the hyberbolic time chamber for Cell isn't that long, so we could just kind of work off the same training regimen.
>>1354306The Idea was thrown around either this or last thread. It sounds like a good idea, though Som said it might be hard to learn. I'll add it to the list since it sounds good but we probably shouldn't try to learn it till later.>Training base/ki control/meditation1)Get our body to react against attacks we can't sense or cut the reaction time further(part of base training)2)healing/ki manipulation invented by Mutaito>develop new/improving old techniques1)golden shout2)nail gun3)improve ki blade-length-electricity-blunt ki fist-add to our legs instead of our arms kick slashes4)Instant transmission5)improve afterimage6)dodonpa7)kikoho8)shin bear claw(basically ki nails, pretty simple)9) ki shield/sheath(what it sounds like)>learning instant transmissionas stated above, but with added importance>kick ass finisher1)Bear maul(Wolf Fang Fist + Ki Sword + Bear Shout combo)2)Kodaik Crash/Kurma crusher(Dragon fist but with a bear, name still in development)3)Golden Roar(bear roar+golden shout or super golden shout)4)Kuma-kenx2?(probably shouldn't focus on this at all due to most likely being extremely difficult and too much time being needed to develop this despite high chance of failure or stagnation. Still deserves a mention though)
>>1354328Im now wondering if it's possible to learn the technique tien knows where he grows two more arms. I don't remember the name but that move could be really helpful, especially since our moveset is geared towards melee combat for the most part
holy shit, i suggested Nail Gun ages ago and assumed noone had remebered it.we have lots of room to grow and develop.A few things to remember.Gravity training might have a limit. Vegeta injured himself at 500X. multiform training lowers our power level, thus lowering our ability to deal with gravity.thus even if we hit gravity cap we should still be able to train upwards of that using multiform at lower Gs until our multiforms are up to 450-500 Gs.
>>1354647>Nail Gunwhat dat
>>1354647That was you? I binge read the archive and only recently joined last thread, when I read about the nail gun I thought it was cool as hell. I think the multiform training is a good idea, but whether it works or not depends on som's point of view on the limits of multiform.
>>1354685At the very least, I think Multiform would be the best way to learn the weak points of our style.The most worthwhile training is done to fix glaring deficiencies.
>>1354671>just copy pasted didn't want to write it againNail gun-essentially a fusion of the piercing aspect of the kienzan and the ki blade, shoots a barrage of small ki spear projectiles that riddle through a target like a gatling gun, similar to black goku's piercing shots that he used on goku, albeit smaller and with many more shots in general. I'm mostly paraphrasing but this is the gist of what the moves do.
>>1354695Seems like a good zoning tool if we can minimize the cost of making mini-kienzans. If we do end up doing it though, we should work on a shotgun variation. Something like an instant burst of a number of projectiles in a general direction.
>>1354705It's less like mini kienzans and more like thin piercing ki blasts, think of ki blade but a barrage style projectile, your point still stands though.
>>1354695>Nail GunYou mean Kugi Punch?Fuck, now I'm hungry.
I will, God willing, be able to run tomorrow night
>>1355822Hey som, recently I've been reading the dbz human quest threads that I think you made(it has a different tag but I've read in the past threads that you wrote it so I'm pretty sure it was you), I was just wondering if unlocking human potential is possible in this quest for tofoo just like olibu and kaguya are able to? Is that possible and if it was would it make the kuma-ken unusable on account of our fluctuating power?
>>1355822Oh cool, one last thread before I go in for surgery.
>>1356461Kaguya's "Super Human" status made him way too broken in my mind. So nothing like that, really>>1356659Good luck, anon
>>1357128So you did right it then, that's cool. I really enjoyed them and alot of the threads were hilarious to read. My only issue was it seems like a few of the threads are missing. I went from reading about goku just making it to the fight against freeza to a full on brawl on earth, z fighters that were literally just brought back to life dead, a knocked out nappa, and kaguya apparently jumped up to a pl of 85 million. The whole thing was just confusing as hell.
>>1357148There were archiving issues
>>1357128Thanks, Som. It's nothing big, actually, I'm just getting a fucking stent removed through my dick and I have to be fucking wide awake for it.So, you know, I should live. If you can call that living.
>>1357287>Getting a stent removed>THROUGH YOUR DICK>yfw the numbing agent wears off halfway through
>>1357305I plan on taking at least 3 hydrocodone before going, I'm paying $50 for laughing gas, there is another pain killer I'm given and a bunch of numbing lube gel stuff. I'm hoping it wont be too bad.It could be worse, my uncle told me that the second time he had to deal with a urethral stent it was a... 'remove at home' deal.
Alright technique/training brainstorm 2And this time I've read the wiki concerning types of techniques. >Shield techniquesSo apparently ki shields are fairly common since everyone and their grandfather can do them. So how can we make it better?>Prism shieldA shield is only useful if it keeps you from being hurt. Since Tofoo often fights enemies well above his level of strength he cannot be sure a standard ki shield will tank an enemy attack. The prism shield is a high speed rotating shield that bends incoming beam and blast attacks away from Tofoo in addition to protecting him. This lessens the severity of the attack and allows him to ride out the resulting explosion more easily.>warp shieldA more complicated technique than the prism shield, this ki shield bends dimensional space so that attacks go right through to the other side without touching Tofoo. Probably very hard to create.>Bear skinThis ki shield wraps around Tofoo like a set of clothes or a second skin. Useful to prevent absorption or if it is trained to the point of being constantly active.>Hungry bear shieldThis ki shield absorbs incoming attacks and then acts like a targeted beam deflection technique allowing Tofoo to blast the enemy with their own redirected attack. Probably risky since overloading it would cause it to explode.>other techniques >Planet Burst Geysers The exploding wave technique of the power geyser, but much much larger and with a twist.Tofoo focuses on an enemy, then punches the ground like the power geyser, however with this technique the entire area is suffused with an unfocused surge of his energy. If the targeted opponent touches the ground anywhere after the technique is used the energy coalesces into a massive power geyser. This continues until the attack is spent.>Kami/Spirit BreathingProbably requires mutaito a training.Tofoo is sorely lacking in healing and regen. This special breathing technique allows Tofoo to absorb energy from his surroundings to replenish himself. It's not super fast, but if we developed a technique like this then maintained it constantly it would improve Tofoos ability to handle long fights. Add in medigel and he could be much harder to put down. >absorption fieldAbsorb incoming energy attacks to replenish ki. Super 17 does this, we would need to wish for the ability from Shenron.
>>1357648I'll put them on the list under ki shield>Training base/ki control/meditation1)Get our body to react against attacks we can't sense or cut the reaction time further(part of base training)2)healing/ki manipulation invented by Mutaito>develop new/improving old techniques1)golden shout2)nail gun3)improve ki blade-length-electricity-blunt ki fist-add to our legs instead of our arms kick slashes4)Instant transmission5)improve afterimage6)dodonpa7)kikoho8)shin bear claw(basically ki nails, pretty simple)9) ki shield/sheath(what it sounds like)-prism shield-warp shield-bear skin-hungry bear skin-planet burst geysers-kami/spirit breathing-absorption field>learning instant transmissionas stated above, but with added importance>kick ass finisher1)Bear maul(Wolf Fang Fist + Ki Sword + Bear Shout combo)2)Kodaik Crash/Kurma crusher(Dragon fist but with a bear, name still in development)3)Golden Roar(bear roar+golden shout or super golden shout)4)Kuma-kenx2?(probably shouldn't focus on this at all due to most likely being extremely difficult and too much time being needed to develop this despite high chance of failure or stagnation. Still deserves a mention though)
I forget. How did King Piccolo die in this quest? Like who did it and how.
>>1357831pretty much the same way he died before, with a kid punching through his gut. Only difference was that it was tofoo who did it, not goku.
>>1357844Then Kodiak Crash/Kuma Crusher should be a revisit of that move on top of taking the totem projection from Dragon Fist.
>>1357848We really shoud vote on a name later, either kodiak crash or kuma crusher. then we can use the leftover name for a new move later.
>>1357870I think Kodiak Crash fits our Dragon-Fist type move better. Kuma Crusher could be our shining finger type thing if we ever do something like that.