Hey guys let me know when you are here.Previous thread here >>1317843
>>1342237Miellewds-guy here.Maybe we should get a set of Dancer silks for Miel and Miel II?
>>1342258They dont have the job though, so it WOULD look lewd and for no gain, really.Can't use is as anything but a dress since they're still technically pets, which reminds me, let's get around to giving land to miel today?
>>1342274>let's get around to giving land to miel today?It was supposed to be a wedding gift, and to have the proper pomp and ceremony of legitimizing a world power. Will signing the land over to Miel have the proper gravitas?
>>1342284Well, shouldnt we give it to her BEFORE the wedding so we're marrying a person and not an animal/monster?
>>1342287I was expecting it to be done a day before the wedding, but I suppose getting it done sooner is not a problem.
>>1342290welcome>>1342300I think its nice to help them as soon as possible. It doesnt feels like blackmail "marry me or your people will continue to be hunted as monsters forever" you know?So, what do you guys wanna do today?>Time skip to running into the Alquian navy>Helping Miel to start a town>Checking on the succubuss town>Lewd with one or more girls>Lab work>Office work and advancing relationship with Yin>Advancing relationship with another girl? (Dawn, Kya, Zoe?)>Other
>>1342317>Helping Miel to start a town>Checking on the succubuss town>Office work and advancing relationship with YinThere's the paperwork for creating the department in the Empire to restore fallen civilizations and people, that we have to work with Yin to create. We have an Imperial Mandate now.
>>1342317this >>1342326 sounds good
I can't wait until the Hive Fleets are ready and the Hegemony covers the globe.
>>1342342>>1342326Alright in that case lets start with office, succubus, miel.***After keeping our beautiful fianceés up until it was late enough to be early, we finally fall asleep while hugging them all tightly against our chest and giving each a nive gentle kiss.After waking up, we wash and help dress eachother tenderly before we [Treestride] to the college. As soon as classes are done for the day, our Aritsu and Lyann head towards the lab, while we [Treestride] again (this time with just Mako) to the imperial gardens in the Mantequira palace, so we can go to work and she can retrieve any letters that may have arrived for her todsy, as well as taking her lessons in palace etiquette and western-style magic.Uh, we may ask her about that eventually.Probably.Yin, as usual, is sitting behind a pile of documents, albeit this time it is just a foot tall, reaching up to about her shoulders.She happily greets us and bows politely (which nicely displays her soft-looking bossom, thanks to the open cut of her dress) towards us before asking us to seat where she was, and standing up to set some tea.From what we can see in the documents, the new Palladium furnaces are ready, and working fine. So much so that they outperform the Glassteel furnaces, even though Palladium was meant to be harder to produce.Apparently one of the master smiths noticed that by using a double chamber system of pressure doors, heat in the oven can be kept high more effectively, and this led to a large increase in effectiveness.That same master smith is asking for a budget for a new furnace, which he says would lead to a even better material.Its by far the most expensive request the forge has sent to us yet, however.>Accept. Invest now, collect later>Reject. Focus on Palladium and Glassteel production improvements.>Other
>>1342380>Accept. Invest now, collect later
>>1342380>>Accept. Invest now, collect later
>>1342408>>1342388Ah... I feel like I wanna steal some stuff from LNs, but its a bit late at this point... would you guys mind if I...? (test follows, if you dislike it, let me know and we will disregard it)***A system notice, the likes of which we haven't seen for a long while, pops up:HEAVENLY EMPIRE TECHNOLOGICAL AGE HAS ADVANCED TO IIIUnlocked by 'Alchemical Furnace' -> 'Adv Alchemical Furnace' -> 'Uncommon Alloys'Uncommon AlloysType: ItemObtained: Research Era IIIFaction: AllCategory: Science and IndustryFew things are more important to military leaders than having better weapons. Thanks to recent breakthroughs in magic and alchemy, weapons can now reliably be forged even from Adamantian or Palladian.'Oooh' - It's been a whileHearing that Palladium can now be handled in a reliable manner sure is comforting, but... wtf is Adamantian?>Go ask the master smiths>Genuflect and ask the system>Just matter of fact pretend we know what the fuck we're talking about and order Yin to have the master smiths send us a ingot of it.>Other
>>1342445>Go ask the master smiths>Genuflect and ask the systemWe know this world works based off of MMO principles because the gods already told us. Having civilizations be categorized at Tech Levels sounds perfectly normal for the setting.Now let's get to reading that Help File.
>>1342454>>Genuflect and ask the systemAdamantian: Uncommon Alloys is required.Now that the Empire's technological Age has reached III, Adamantian Ingots have been added to the drop lists of all Construct Type monsters in Empire-controlled dungeons.Drop Rate: Extremely Rare. Reaching a higher Technological Age will lower the rarity of Adamantian Ingots.Adamantian can be used by master smiths to craft extraordinary equipment in an Advanced Alchemical Furnace.As with all other materials, once a smith as learnt to handle it to make an item, s/he can use [Craft] to produce the end result without the need to work at an Adv Alchemical Furnace.'Hmm... Indeed, it was good that we checked on the help file. So basically, Palladiam can be smelted but Adamantian has to be looted... I'm not really sure on which one is better of what their specific uses are, though.' - Yin watches as we nod nod to ourselves"Uhm... lord? Would you like two sugars, then?" - she asks again"Ah! Yes please!"We were so absorbed that we didn't really pay attention to her words.In short, we should expect to see -some- Adamantian ingots popping out of the local dungeons, right?Perhaps we should go get some ourselves later.Ah...>While we are at it, see if there's a list of available technologies or a tech tree of some sort...>Let's go to the dungeon right now, and send our pets as well. Let's go grind some Adamantian ingots.>Other(The reason im making it a choice despite the fact that it would technically not take us too long to check the tech tree is because, let's be honest, between me writing it all and you guys reading, understanding and picking from amongst it all, it will be the evening, at least)
>>1342507>While we are at it, see if there's a list of available technologies or a tech tree of some sort...Eldric should write this all down to be added to the Lightbringer Archives.
>>1342507>>While we are at it, see if there's a list of available technologies or a tech tree of some sort...
>>1342520>>1342518>>While we are at it, see if there's a list of available technologies or a tech tree of some sort...Fine, don't complain if it takes a whileERA I TECHSCIENCE AND INDUSTRYAdv Alloys Type - Item (Weapon)Obtained - Era IFaction - AllThe use of exotic resources like Titanium and Glassteel can greatly improve weapons. The metallurgy is complex, however, and special tools and forges are required.Advanced ArmorType - Item (Armor)Obtained - Era IFaction - AllAdvanced metallurgy leads to the creation of armor with Titanium or Glassteel alloys; the use of such materials is expensive but worth the cost.Alchemist FurnaceType - City Improvement (Exploitation)Obtained - Era IFaction - AllAt the heart of the titanium and glassteel extraction method is a vast furnace used to smelt the purified resources out of their mineralized forms.Unlocks for Construction:Dungeon Modifier - Titanium ExtractorDungeon Modifier - Glassteel ExtractorDungeons can be 'capped' with a magical extractor to obtain ingots at an accelerated, constant rate. The dungon becomes permanently unaccessible and loses its ability as an [ERROR] defense mechanism.ECONOMY AND POPULATIONAquapulvisticsType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IFaction - AllAs they circulate through the land, the rivers of Eiren collect and carry Gold. Studies of the presence of Gold in natural water sources improve its identification and collection.Unlocks for ConstructionCity Improvement - Gold DredgerCities built atop rivers can extract Gold from the running waters during Summer.Sifting with sophisticated nets in wells, rivers and floodplains helps isolate this precious resource, increasing city Gold production beyond that obtained from Dungeons. This is the first step towards separating national budget from Dungeondiving.Empire MintType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IFaction - AllA public building dedicated to collecting Gold (typically foreign currency, but if a Gold Dredger is present in the city, collected Gold can be turned into local coins as well) and minting currency. Increases Gold production in the city.Geomic LabsType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IFaction - AllThis new science, based on the study of the natural rock formations of Eiren, brings a wealth of new knowledge to the city.Raises science output of all hexes within and around the city.EMPIRE AND EXPANIONLanguage SquareType - City ImprovementObetained - Era IFaction - All but BastionitesWith a public square dedicated to practicing and teaching the many languages of Auriga, conversations with minor factions can now move beyond pointing and grunting.Effects: Unlocks Army Action: 'Parley' on Empire.Parley: Intelligent Humanoid Monsters can be conquered, bribed or convinced to join the empire, and elevated to 'Villager' status.1/?
WAIT!!! We're in Endless Legend land?!
>>1342595The Miel Hegemony must have a Language Square. With it, the Hegemony can conquer monsters and make them into vassal states and client races. Hive Fleet Rose Tyrant, Hive Fleet Lily Oppressor, and Hive Fleet Tulip Dominator can go out into the world to conquer the planet in the name of the God-Empress of Beekind, who rules from atop the Adamantium Throne deep within the Throne Fleet.
>>1342595Adventurer's GuildType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IFaction - AllMuscles ripple, insults fly, and the stench of the unwashed is pretty bad, but that's the price for establishing a dedicated space where sellswords forces can be hired.MILITARYMilitary ScienceType - TechnologyObtained - Era IFaction - AllAs science and analytical methods develop they are finally applied to warfare, making it more than just hitting the other guy harder using a bigger sword.Unlocks: Stronghold ArchitectureType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IFaction - AllBasic architectural advances like moats, crenellations, sally ports, etc. greatly improve city defences.Infantry CantineType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IFaction - AllA watering hole only for enlisted soldiers not only cuts down on drunken brawls between uniforms and civilians, but also promotes the exchanges of battle tactics, weapon handling, and other information, making more experienced fighters.Effect: Army Training costs reduced by 20%(It was at this point, TKOAND knew, he'd done fuck'd up. I left some out of order, so I'm gonna start adding Category in the descriptions)Mill FoundryType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IFaction - AllCategory - Science and IndustryImproved quality of critical parts for mills increases the amount of Industry produced.Effect: Increases industry outpot in the city and adjacent hexes.Open Pit MineType - ExploitationObtained - Era IFaction - AllCategory - Economy and PopulaceA varied number of extractors can be built on top of any dungeon, 'capping' it, making it inaccessible while regularly extracting a single resource from it.Effect: Dye, Emerald, Gold, Spice and Wine extractors are possible.Public Library Type - City ImprovementObtained - Era IFaction - AllCategory - Science and IndustryThe first step in improving science is to bring together existing knowledge. This building will help researchers and students.Effect: Increases the output of Science in the city and adjacent Hexes.Search PartyType - Army ActionObtained - Era IFaction - AllCategory - Empire and ExpansionIn areas where resources or artifacts may lie hidden, troops, rather than adventurers, can be officially ordered to hunt and dig for loot or exp.Seed StorageType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IFaction - AllCategory - Economy and PopulationSeeds of domesticated plants are stored for sowing, making crops more reliable and increasing the amount of Food produced.Effect: Increases food production on the city and adjacent hexes. Helps stabilize food prices.Sewer SystemType - City ImprovementOtained - Era IFaction - AllCategory- Empire and ExpansionThe drop on nauseating odours and infectious diseases, thanks to the new public sanitation system, instantly gives an large Approval bonus to your City.2/?
>>1342646FACTION-SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGIESArchaeologistType - ScienceObtained - Era I (Faction Quest)Faction - Sbastia University of Applied NecromancyCategory - Science and IndustryIt is of great value to study the artifacts and history of Eiren -- particularly with an eye to predicting its future.Effects: 10% cost reduction for technologies on Empire.Aura of LeadershipType - EmpireObtained - Era IFaction - Kingdom of HevenCategory - Empire and ExpansionYou are a benevolent and polite neighbor, so every pacified village in your empire sings your praises. With each pacification, the status and reputation of your nation grows.Effect: Heavy bonuses on diplomatic missions. Highly reduced chances of rebellion on already pacidfied territories.Visions of GloryType - EmpireObtained - Era IFaction - United forst nations of YellowleavesCategory - Empire and ExpansionThough not superstitious, the elves of Yellowleaves have put some faith in signs and omens. As each new building rises in your empire, your people are energized by a hopeful future that is growing before their eyes.Effect:Huge satisfaction bonus whenever a city improvement is built.Huge satisfaction bonus whenever a new city is founded.Huge satisfaction bonus when a regional improvement is built.(Effect is lesser when building improvements from previous ages)School of Arcane SecretsType - City ImprovementObtained - Era III (Faction Quest)Faction - Albion University of Advanced SorceryCategory - Science and IndustryWithin each new converted village, a specialized school is constructed; it sifts lessons, thoughts and conversations to obtain scientific information from students research, conversations and studies.Effect: Greatly increases science output for every city and cillage within the Empire.I guess I'll keep tyong Era/Age II stuff now? Like I said, it will take a while.
There really should be a pastebin or something similar of these things
>>1342704By the way, you need to unlock at least 6 technologies in any specific Age before being allowed to move to the next.AGE IIAlchemical AlloysType - Item (Weapon)Obtained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - Science and IndustryAs part of a sophisticated metallurgical process, alchemy is introduced into the forging process. Using this technique, weapons fashioned from Titanium and Glassteel can be improved[/]Effects: Unlocks Tier 2 weapons made of Glassteel and TitaniumAlchemical ArmorType - Item (Armor)Obtained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - Science and IndustryCopying alchemical processes used to make improved armors, Titanium and Glassteel can be forged into sheets that are both thinner and stronger than previously possibleEffect: Unlocks Tier 2 armors made of Glassteel and TitaniumAlchemy Workshop Type - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - Science and IndustrySolid buildings are constructed where the curious can mix, match, and ignite various materials. Science advances, in spite of a noticeable increase in minor burns, temporary deafness, and smoky streets.Aquacultural ScienceType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - Economy and PopulationThough water was at first viewed by farmers primarily as something unpredictable and supernatural, it is now exploited scientifically to improve agricultural yields.Unlocks for construction: Irrigation Network and Fish FarmingCanal SystemType - City Improvement (Must be atop a river or by a shore)Obtained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - Science and IndustryThe creation of a network for rapidly transporting goods gives an immediate industry bonus to your city.Central MarketType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - Empire and ExpansionThis great national market brings in goods from across Eiren. New jobs and experiences are created as the population finds new ways to indulge itself.Effect: Boost Economy and Satisfaction.Conscription CenterType - City ImprovementOntained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - MilitaryA formal process to find, enlist, and train raw recruits results in a noticeable improvement in troop quality.Diplomat's ManseType - DiplomacyObtained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - Empire and ExpansionIn this opulent house diplomats learn the cultural intricacies of other nations, improving the prospects of success for diplomatic missions.Glory of EmpireType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - Empire and ExpansionThis magnificent public building includes statues, libraries, and frescoes that tell of the founding and growth of your civilization. A source of awe and pride, it increases the success rate of diplomatic missions based on the number of your citizens with access to such structure.3/?
>>1342765Imperial ReserveType - ResourceObtained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - Economy and PopulationEffect: Helps the valor of your empire's currency in the international marketplace, prevents coin shortage within the empire.Imperial HighwaysType - Regional ImprovementObtained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - Empire and ExpansionPreviously paths across private land full of ruts and mud, roads are constructed to link towns and military outposts for both commerce and defense now.Effect: Creates roads on empire. Greatly boosts trade and science within the empire.Management SciencesType - Regional ImprovementObtained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - Science and IndustryThe idea that management and organization is something that can be improved and better exploited at a regional level is new and radical. However, it leads to clear improvement in the organization of work.Effect: Improves production within the empire.Meritocratic PromotionType - ArmyObtained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - MilitaryA radical idea! Perhaps officers should be promoted based on skill, not blood line? In addition, money saved on formal dinners can be spent on upgrading equipemnt.Effect: One Tier 1 accessory become available as a standard part of your army's uniform, at no extra cost, greatly boosting their might.(For example, your entire army can have Rings of Cold Resistance equipped right before invading Russia in winter.)Native DistrictType - EmpireObtained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - Empire and ExpansionBy imperial decree, a small section of land is given over to an inmigrant population.Effect: +1 Race added to Empire.Prisoners, Slaves and VolunteersType - EmpireObtained - Era IIFacton - AllCategory - Economy and PopulationFlooding building sites with troops as cheap labor, effectively allows construction projects to be quickly completed at no extra cost.Effect: -25% cost of City Improvements on EmpirePublic Granary Type - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - Economy and PopulationAs large quantities of grains can now be stored safely for long periods of time, your city receives an immediate food bonusEffect: Food prices are reduced within the city. Starvation due to bad harvests and the like are prevented.Rockit ShipyardsType - RoadsObtained - Era IIFaction - AllCategory - Empire and ExpansionWith this building that brings together the various crafts for shipbuilding (wrights, carpenters, ropemakers, caulkers, etc) reliable rockitships can be made for the benefit of the empire's commercial and military adventures.Effect: International trade missions are safer, faster, and far more profitable.
>>1342850Mana Extractor WebType - Regional ImprovementObtained - Era IIFaction - Sbastia University of Applied NecromancyCategory - MilitaryIn friendly - or subservient- villages, Sbastian merchants sell constructs that feed the overflowing mana of the inhabitants back to Sbastian troops operating in the region.Effect: Double Mana Regeneration for Sbastian units operating in the region.State-sponsored AnimatoriumType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIFaction - Sbastia University of Applied NecromancyCategory - Empire and ExpansionSalvage teams bring the Sbastian dead to animatorium sites where their bodies can re repurposed for military of civilian use by the nation.Effect: 10% discount on the price of military units. 10% discount on the price of city improvements.Oologic NurseryType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIFaction - Kingdom of HevenCategory - Empire and ExpansionGifted with strong social instincts and great knowledge of behavorial sciencs, the Majin and Succubus build sophisticated centers for the incubation of their young.Effect: Large boost to satisfaction within the city. All units trained in this city start with 'elite' attributes/stats.Freelance GuardsType - Army ActionObtained - Era IIFaction - Alquian EmpireCategory - EmpireThe idea of turning troops not immediately needed for national defense into flagless mercenaries seems logical. After all, they are needed to protect the Empire's long-term commercial interests.Effect: Unlocks Privateer armies composed exclusively of mercenaries. Can carry any flag, preventing other empires (even allies) from knowing which empire owns them.Deep GeneratorType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIFaction - Dwarves of the Opal KingdomsCategory - Science and IndustryHarnessing the mighty power of the timeless fires of the deep, Dwarven backup generators provide sustainable and reliable energy that is missing on the surface. All resources are boosted.Effect: +10% Food production on city+10% Inductry production on city+10% Gold production on city+10% Science production on cityERA IIIBorough GovernmentType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIIFaction - AllCategory - MilitaryBy appointing energetic local leaders to help organize borough-level defense and health, local infrastructure improves and city defenses become more effective.Effect: +10% Food production on city+10% Satisfaction on cityBread and CircusesType - EmpireObtained - Era IIIFaction - AllCategory - Empire and ExpansionBy organizing forums where city dwellers can air the grievances, as well as various artistic events to distract the population, expansion plans can be more easily imposed on the populace.Effect: Reduced war weariness on empire.4/?
>>1342955Cargo DocksType - Expansion (City District)Obtained - Era IIIFaction - AllCategory - Empire and ExpansionA large, centrally-organized port helps safeguard empire supply lines, and allows longer-term planning. Sea shanties still permitted.Effect: Oversea trading routes become permanent, rather than a ship-by-ship adventure. This district can only be built on a sea hex adjacent to a city, covers the whole hex, and greatly expands the industry (and crime) of the city is built adjacent to.House of CoinageType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIIFaction - AllCategory - Economy and PopulationA state building where citizens can trade that pesky 'gold' for much more convenient 'paper currency'.Effect: Each unit of population within the city greatly adds to the Gold reserves of the Empire.Palace of CoinType - Regional ImprovementObtained - Era IIIFaction - AllCategory - Economy and PopulationMaster artisans and alchemist design and produce the currency of the Empire, weaving precious and arcane minerals in exact amounts to form state-guaranteed seals in the brand new 'paper currency', making the empire's into the internationally preferred coin of trade.Effect: Huge bonus to diplomatic missions.Adc Fluid Biomechanics LabType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIIFaction - AllCategory - Science and IndustryAs science becomes increasingly specialized, particular sub-topics gain importance. In this case, investment in better understanding of the energy of fluids leads to pragmatic results.Effect: +20% science output in the cityHighway OutpostsType - Regional ImprovementObtained - Era IIIFaction - AllCategory - Empire and ExpansionMilitary offices, located within defended caravanserai, improve the speed and coordination of information and commerce on the empire's roads.Effect: +20% industry and science production within the region.National MuseumType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIIFaction - AllCategory - Science and IndustryThe empire holds a great store of loot (though we prefer the term "acquired objects"). This museum puts them on display, provides facilities to study them, and reminds others of the reach and power of the empire.Effect: +10% increased science production in city+10% chance of success on foreign diplomatic missions.Automated Plow FactoryType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIIFaction - AllCategory - Economy and PopulationA revolutionary improvement, automated agrarian workers, increases the amount of food produced.Effect: +20% food productionReaping StationType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIIFaction - AllCategory - Economy and PopulationAdvanced extraction methods allows us to cap dungeons in order to automatically extract valuable resources withour risking life or linb.Allows:Blood Crystal ExtractorGrassilk ExtractorMoonleaf ExtractorQuicksilver ExtractorTitan Bones Extractor5/?
>>1343054Smelting StationType - ExplotationObtained - Era IIIFaction - AllCategory- Science and IndustryIncredible temperatures are reached inside these towers, allowing Adamantian ingots to be regularly extracted from capped dungeons.Allows:Adamantian ExtractorAdvanced Alchemy LabsType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIIFaction - AllCategory - Science and IndustryImproved mathematics are necessary for much of scientific growth. By using algorithms of prediction and probability, the efficiency of scientific experimentation leaps forward.Effect: +30% Increase in Science output in this city.Uncommon AlloysType - Item (weapon)Obtained - Era IIIFaction - AllCategory - Science and IndustryFew things are more important to military leaders than having better weapons. Thanks to recent breakthroughs in magic and alchemy, arms can now be forged even from Adamantian or Palladian.Effects: Unlocks tier 1 weapons of Adamantian or Palladian.Uncommon ArmorType - Item (Armor)Obtained - Era IIIFaction - AllCategory - Science and IndustryEffects: Unlock tier 1 armors made of Adamantian or PalladianUnlocks tier 1 accessories made opf Adamantian or Palladian.Unskilled LaborType - StockpileObtained - Era IIIFaction - AllCategory - Science and IndustryIdle manpower can be used to stock conserved foods, industrial materials, and scientific equipment either for trade or for future use.(If you ever played a civ game, it basically enables the 'produce wealth/science' command, cut adding 'food/production' as options)Effects:Unlocks Food, Industry, and Science stockpiles. These can be consumed by any city on the empire.Faction Specific TechnologiesStrenght of the DepthsType - City ImprovementObtained - Era IIIFaction - Dwarves of the Opal KingdomsCategory - Science and IndustryThe coming together of the dwarven clans has led to unprecedented cooperation. Bringing together all their knowledge of defensive hexes, spells, tactics, and weapons, city defenses have greatly improved.Effects: +80% Armor bonus to dwarven troops defending this city.Jesus christ finally done. Now gonna take a shower and come back then read your comments and such.
>>1343136DammAre we playing age of empires now?Or civilization?Mybe we should send this list to our firends that are incharge of the citys?
>>1343136Thats a lot of tech.
So wait, Era III was achieved by building Advanced Alchemical Furnace and Uncommon Alloys, which both only become available at Era III?
>>1343238No, the empire (and most other civs) are already at level 2, about to hit 3.It was available, but we hadnt built anything from it, so when we did, we got the message of having actually began age 3.>>1343217>>1343162I told you guys it would take the evening. Plus it goes all the way to Age VI
>>1343250So are all Era III items available for us to build? Or do we have to have the prerequisites from previous Era's?
>>1343250Just to clarify: Is this all already researched or are these potential research projects?
>>1343283We need to have 6+ Era II unlocked first. There's also some unit types specific to each culture that can/need to be unlocked but I didnt include them because it would have inflated the info dump WAY too much.For example, the Heavenly Empire has those batallions of naught but lionkin soldiers as its tier II specialized troop, boasting high stats all around (but no range)
>>1343293Some are researched, some are potential projects.Era I and II are pretty much complete except for the extractors.Era III can now be researched, we only have the labs and the alloys right now, though.
>>1343321If we were to make the Miel Hegemony into a restored civilization, what Era would it start at?Would the Hive Fleets count as cities?
>>1343325I'd say it depends on the territory they staert at if they become citizens of that country. If you want them to be fully independant, then yeah, 1.But there's not that much unclaimed territory you know?I guess they could be fleet-based since they dont really need that much room. Something like a nomad culture.
>>1343548The Hegemony just needs to claim some land, even if it's just a small island. Some land to call its own; preferably one that won't be destroyed like their last one, but not much you can do against continent-destroying retcons/patch updates.
>>1343548Couldn't the Hegemony buy or be gifted technologies by other civilizations? All they would have to do is build the structures using the blueprints provided by others.
>>1344875I dont see y not.Since you only have to buold them for it to count.
>>1343548Oh, hey, once the Hegemony builds a Language Square, they could get the option to Parley with the Jungle Fairies and bring them in as Villagers/Nomads, couldn't they?Eldric could demand a Princess from the Jungle Fairies as a token of fealty from the new vassals.
>>1344875>Couldn't the Hegemony buy or be gifted technologies by other civilizations? All they would have to do is build the structures using the blueprints provided by others.Seems perfectly fine. Tech trade or gifting it as diplomatic boosts happens all the time in civ games."Hi neighbor, I noticed your pointy sticks arent all that pointy. Here, this is steel technology, now let's be good neighbors, alright?">>1345048Seems alright. But dont we already have 2 faeries?Anyway, let's continue, then. Assuming you guys read the tech tree stuff, what do you wanna do? Tech tree stuff is available for construction now.We could start a unskilled labor project to get everyone into producing canned food, or maybe get to 'capping' a dungeon for resources.Personally I think it's better if we make a wholly new dungeon for that first, though. Remember doing that would cost around 100k gold, IIRCCurrent budget is about 115k so we could just barely afford it, but would probably need to justify spending around 90% of budget in something that doesnt seems all that urgent right now.So anyway, today>Start construction/research prokects>Advance relationship with Yin (Assuming we still want to add her to harem)>Adv relationship with Kya (Assuming we still want to add her to harem)>Lewd with one or more girls>Research new probes with automated casters>Get the land for Miel>Check on the succubus village>Other
>>1345062>Advance relationship with Yin (Assuming we still want to add her to harem)>Check on the succubus village
>>1345062>Start construction/research projectsHouse of Coinage and Adv Fluid Biomechanics Lab>Advance relationship with Yin (Assuming we still want to add her to harem)>Research new probes with automated casters>Get the land for Miel>Check on the succubus village
>>1345077>>1345088 >>Advance relationship with Yin>>1345077>>1345088>>Check on the succubus village>>1345088>>Start construction/research projects>House of Coinage and Adv Fluid Biomechanics Lab>>Research new probes with automated casters>>Get the land for MielAlright, so looks like we're going with Yin and the Succubuss, then? You guys want to seduce her or have it happen more naturally?I mean, do we set Eldric unto her with that in mind, or is it something that just happens? I was thinking she may go with him to see the succubuss village, get affected by the pheromones and attack him (or at least go aggressive on him), then end 'with' him.Suggestions are welcomed if you see it happening differently though
>>1345110So Yin goes with Eldric to see an example of a recently civilized Monster race, gets affected by the pheromones because she isn't high-level like Eldric (or because they go to meet with the leaders of the village who unconsciously release the pheromones because they're excited), and Yin aggressively demands that Eldric take her.Though shouldn't Eldric resist a little?Have him resist, keep Yin at arm's length until she calms down. She apologizes for losing control, but later realizes that she still feels a desire to be with Eldric even after the pheromones wear off.
>>1345115Well she doesnt has the built-over-time resistance to succubuss that Eldric has. They're not present in the continent she lives in, after all, nor has she ever met one.Remember she is somewhat attracted to him already, so her feelings plus a big push from the pheromones would be enough for her to try going for him much more aggressively.They (the succubuss) aren't releasing the mind-control variety when they talk with her. They're not trying to leave her helpless so they can eat her, after all. Is just their 'passive' mode so to speak, so its not as if she will go all 'take me now!' on Eldric. I was thinking more along the lines of feeling horny and uncomfortable around him, fidgeting, then curling her tails around him and leaning in, trying to start a kiss... you know, smart and serious but inexperienced girl making a move.Anyway brb while you guys decide on it.
>>1345128Okay, but wouldn't Eldric realize what's going on and stop it?
>>1345128How about this scenario. After work is over, he decides to stay at his manor in mantequira because he wants to start the new Era III buildings ASAP so they'll be working late, and the offices close after dusk.They when they are working side by side in his (their?) home, she starts getting amorous, or maybe walks in on him while he's having a bath.>>1345138>Okay, but wouldn't Eldric realize what's going on and stop it?Would he? We have the advantage of narrator point of view, so we know that she has no natural resistance to the pheromones. Not a predator present in her continent, after all. Remember the succubuss have been 'monsters' for a LONG time now, so the creatures in the same continents as them must have evolved some natural resistance over time. Yin is from another continent, so it hits her like a truck, but would he know that? I don't think so.Well, maybe its just something that happens naturally while they're working side by side instead? Like, the night is getting cold so he warms him up with her tails, then he ifly pets them and she gets flushed and excited and it snowballs from there.Suggestions welcomed, though. Do feel free to suggest stuff
>>1345150>but would he know thatNo, he wouldn't know about resistances, but he would know how succubuses use pheromones, since he's been on the receiving end of them before, so it would make sense for him to realize people getting horny in the presence of succubi to be affected by their pheromones.
>>1345150Im ok with the Village visit or Working late ideas.
>>1345150How about we combine the Village Visit and Working Late ideas. Yin gets affected by the pheromones and gets steadily more aroused, and when Eldric takes Aurora and Kiana with him to help with getting work done, and he gets Yin to also come along, she continues to get dosed and continues rubbing her tails against Eldric and trying to get him to kiss her.
>>1345213Uhmm? you want it to end as a foursome? Or should he send the pets to his menagerie after a while? Im not sure what you mean, exactly.
>>1345244Send the pets to the Menagerie at the end of the night. Yin takes advantage of the opportunity that it creates to be alone with Eldric and step up her attempts at seduction.
>>1345254Oh! That reminds me!>Eldric's POV>Yin's POV
>>1345285Yeah I think thats best since e can see her pov of things, and her freaking out a little about seducing her boss (according to her)Everyone agrees?
>>1345295Yeah, that's best.
>>1345296>>1345285>>Yin's POV"What are you doing, sir?" - Yin looks at Eldric as he sketches something on the table.It looks like a building. Maybe a new type of furnace? He seems to think they are very important."Im thinking of a new way to handle money." - he replies-Hm... he doesn't shows up to work as much as she'd like him to, but she can't deny her boss has come up with a lot of interesting ideas in the past.The city smells much much better since building that see-where system to deal with waste. It's still not as nice as the woodlands around her native village, with their soft and relaxing scent of trees and flowers year-round, but DEFINITIVELY better than it was when she arrived.Well, except in the palace, of course. Cleaning in the palace (and his manor) was always a priority, so the changes there have been minimum, albeit the cleaning staff certainly seems to have noticed the difference.Nowadays, many other cities in the empire have begun their own see-where systems, imitating the capital and hoping for a good result.There's a whole new industry dedicated to making metal tubes and installing them now."Uhmm... more numbers?" - she says after a moment of thinking. He recently introduced what he called 'arabic numbers', to great effect in accounts everywhere.Now it's a lot easier to deal with large and small numbers everywhere.Rather than 'eleven thousand three hundred fifty three' you just write 11353, which uses a lot less space and is much easier to handle on first sight.Well, the old method is still used in some official ceremonies, though. Handing a imperial order with '11353' written on it just doesn't has the same gravitas to it, you know?"Sort of. You have seen the new bank notes?" -. he asks looking at her"Ah, those" - Indeed, now you can deposit money at a rockitship dock, and be given a ´note' which you can exchange for local currency once you arrive at your destination. It is a very useful system considering that the coins you start with may not neccessarily be recognized as currency at the end of your trip.Well, the rockitship company charges a small percentage of the money, but it is overall a very convenient service. Plus, coins can be quite heavy, and considering that you get charged by weight on a rockitship, the charge for using the notes system is less than if you were to keep all your coinage on yourself.Well, for nobles, anyway. Regular people like herself have the advantage of a [Item Box] where they can store their coins at no cost.But there's still the possibility of it not being valid currency at your destination.Yup, the notes system is quite useful for all travellers. Really"It's a system to use notes inside the country on a everyday basis." -he explains further"Uh?"1/?
>>1345336"The country will print a official note worth... say, 20 gold coins. You can pay with that instead of carrying around 20 gold coins. There would be notes... bills, worth 10, 20, 50 and 100 gold coins each... well, maybe not 100 since that's a platinum coin.""What for?""Lighter to cary, easier and faster to count. Imagine you want to pay for something worth 220 gold coins. Just giving up two hundred twenty gold coins and having each party count them is a hassle, right? Two bills of a hundred and one of twenty will be much easier and faster, plus neither side can later claim s/he miscounted.""Two platinum coins and twenty gold coins is not that much to count...""It's still faster. Say you want to pay 99 gold coins, then. Would you rather count and hand over ninety nine gold coins, or just one bill worth a hundred and get a coin back?""I would hand a platinum coin.""Platinum coins are very rare, you know?""Well, that's true."Indeed, most people would actually pay with ninety nine gold coins rather than a platinum coin. After all, such are usually dropped only by high level bosses, and most people are not adventurers."Sir, is there any gain for the state in giving up those notes?""Well, we can start a precious metal reserve. We have the bills circulating while we store the gold and platinum, just in case. We can have a virtual currency out and keep the solid one safely away.""It feels like a trick of some kind..." -she says while frowning a little- "Aren't you basically doubling the amount of money, then?""...yeah."If there are 100 gold coins in the state's reserve, and a hundred gold coins bill out in someone's hands, that means there's a total of two hundred coins in the end, right?"I feel like we need to talk a lot about this. It sounds like a very big change..." - says Yin after a little bit of thought"Alright. Then, please come with me after lunch. We're going to inspect a new village, and can keep talking about it even later at home.""Yes." -then she adds- "Oh, this is the first time we are having lunch together. Would you like to go out or should I ask for something from the kitchens?">Go home>Go to a restaurant>Ask for two lunches from the palace's kitchens>Other
>>1345351Honestly, remember that money dissapears from the vaults when we order public works, so currency is replaced about as quickly as it gets generated by dungeons.Yes, public buildings are system-generated while private houses are built the old fashion way.So introducing bills and storing the dungeon generated coins can lead to inflation. We'll need to be careful about there being too much money in circulation as well.
>>1345351>Ask for two lunches from the palace's kitchens
>>1345351>>Ask for two lunches from the palace's kitchens
>>1345420Who are you, you've been appearing in so many quests with your amazing art!
>>1345424Thanks :) I'm a draw quester who no one wanted to play their game because I came on at the wrong time (See: http://boards.4chan.org/qst/thread/1325722) so instead I'm lurking around and drawing people's stuff, and playing some of the quests.
>>1345420And we all love youThe things people fo for a draw fag.Cheack out dgaDark gate academy we have been bitching about not having someone like you in there
>>1345452Thanks, I really appreciate it.
>>1345448Oh, that's nice. Are you playing this one? I realize its a bit long already, though.Can I ask for a lineup of characters? Also, since I can't really draw anymore, could I ask you for a Okaba portrait? I still need a good pic for him, and it just pisses me off.By the way guys, just so you know, 'properly' eating chinese noddles involves slurping them up in a noisy manner. Failing to do so implies that you aren't enjoying them, and is seen as rude. (im 1/2 chiense, btw)Similarly, eating ALL your food implies the host served you a 'too small' portion, so you should leave a little bit on the dish to imply you are too full to eat any more, which means it was a very generous and big portion.>>1345409>>1345369>>Ask for two lunches from the palace's kitchensAnd so, we basically ate while working.'Nnn... I don't really understand well why, but the boss seems a bit worried about there being too much money... Isn't that a nice problem to have? Ah! He must have noticed my doubts showing on my face!'Actually, Eldric was enjoying to see the pretty fox girl eat tiny bits one after another, elegantly picking them up with the chopsticks and taking them to her ruby lips. From time to time, she also slurped up her noodles, which inevitably looked (and sounded) quite erotic.The noodles were sucked up and gave a little whiplash before dissapearing between her lips. The sight of her facing down while sucking and looking up at him with her golden eyes, fluffy ears flicking a little bit, naturally caused his child to stirr up in response, but thankfully the table was in the way so she couldn't notice."Erh... sir, this... will the palace's treasury accept the money?" -she says after licking her lips clean and straightening up a little bit."Oh, that's a very good point, but I suspect it will if Ren officially decrees it as currency, you know?""I see..." - if the heavenly empress decrees it, uh? Her life philosophy as a citizen of the empire had no issue with that assumption.Well, it meant that the new 'bill' would also dissapear after some time, being consumed for public works.They continued to discuss work while having lunch. It really helped Yin feel more relaxed when he explained his new ideas.She felt really guilty for peeping at him that one time.She knew it was wrong, but the door was slightly open, and she was just passing by. Its not as if she had gone there to peek. Its just that once she looked into the room, she found she couldn't look away.The memory made her feel both uncomfortable and excited, which made her all the more embarrassed now that they were face to face.'Uhhh... I can't even apologize without admitting to it...' Honestly, for such a sheltered and intelligent young woman, her first exposure to the adult world had been way too stimulating.She fidgeted a little bit in place, and tried to avoid his eyes by looking down at the documents and the food.1/?
>>1345466After a while, they both seemed to calm down and manage to get themselves back into work mode.When he invited her to see the new 'monster' village he had started to reintroduce the succubus to civilization, she naturally accepted his invitation.The empress had expressed interest in the idea of 'rescuing' as many such former citizens as possible, after all. And the new language square would help make this a reality as the army corps approached the roaming packs of humanoid monsters, after all.She was only mildly worried about him still being somewhat hungry, seeing as how he had completely cleaned up his potion of the lunch, however.'I should ask the cooks to prepare larger portions for him. I had no idea sir was such a good eater.' -she musedAfter treestriding to the new village, she was initially confused, but quickly regained her footing.The houses... no, every building was in a style different to the one she was used to. Honestly, the architecture surprised her a lot more than the inhabitants. Since the empire already has so many different races living together, seeing a group of people with horns and tails barely even caysed her 'strange'o'meter' to react at all.So what if they had horns? Plenty of beastkin have horns.Tails? You think that will bother someone with nine of her own? Are you serious?The fact that they were almost universally female didn't move her in the least, either. Such things varied greatly from tribe to tribe, after all. For all she knew, the males could be out hunting or working on security around the village.There is no town wall, after all.The inhabitants happily approached his boss and herself.'They look quite happy to see us.. no, happy to see sir Eldric.'Their clothes heavily reminded her of the 'school uniform' she had seen the imperial princess wear a few times before.They went into a house, and she was quite surprised when its inhabitants greeted Eldric as 'Master'.As it turns out, they were his Menagerie pets, as well as inhabitants of the town.Once Eldric explained the situation to her, she understood why a Language Square was neccessary.Ah, for a while now, she's been feeling this itch for some reason... it only got stronger as she entered the house too... and the images of her boss being amorous with his friends kept harrassing her non stop.'Uhh... I- I am not a lustful person!' - she complained to herselfThe village had been growing along nicely, it seems. The succubus had gotten used to living together, so if there was any problem, it was the fact that all doors and windows tended to be open or unlocked at all times.Well, they are used to sharing everything and have no concept of 'personal space' so even if they enter one another's homes, it isn't an issue for them.That sounds nice and all, at a tribe's level, but won't be a good thing if they go to live anywhere else, you know?Uhh... that itching is annoying! It's... 2/?
>>1345466Sorry for late reply. I haven't been able to keep up with this quest no, I was just catching up on your last two posts now. (Hence me seeing this.) I could probably draw a quick Okaba after a bit of catch up reading.
Actually, I'm not sure what Okaba is suppose to look like other than having a bit of sparkle in the eyes from two threads ago. XD So I'd need a mini-description. Also chinese is awesome, I tried to learn Mandarin because I can read a decent amount of characters in common with Japanese but I just sort of gave up after not being able to remember the tones. EVER.
>>1345594Let me correct myself. A small amount. XD
>>1345510**Later**She was blushing bright red during the entirety of their visit to the village. Actually, it started when she realized just 'where' she itched, specifically.She could feel her clothes constrain and rub against her. Her body seemed to have grown needlessly sensitive all of a sudden, specially in certain naughty spots.As a well-read young lady, she knew enough to feel ashamed of herself. 'Uh... the girls seem quite happy to do as the chief says, don't they?' - she was thinking of how his pets, friends and fianceés alike seemed to naturally follow his words.Then she thought about how he enthusiastically had his way with lady Lyann that night in the manor... he had been completely in charge of the situation, and she had very obviously enjoyed every moment of it.'If I...' -for a moment, she had a mental image where she replaced Lyann, bending over the bed's edge as Eldric leant over her from behind- 'No, no...!'"Alright. Let's go back." -he said after promising the succubus matriarch to begin exporting the glass products the townsfolk had began producing.It would allow them to earn coinage and begin a trade-based economy, instead of depending on a dungeon."Ah, yes!" - she blurted out, right as the dominant Eldric in her mind overlapped with the one right next to her, ordering her to shift positions while the real one took her hand and pulled her towards the familiar tree they had used to arrive in the first place.Like that, they came out from the peach tree in the Mantequira Manor's garden."Are you alright?" -he asks politely"Yes! Thank you very much!" -she replies while blushing from tip to toe"Alright. If you are sure, do you want to talk about the new lab I want built?""Eh? New lab? Didn't we have one opened last month?""This one will boost science production again.""Eh?""...is hard to explain.""Alright..."At least, she could tell that the embarrassing itch had diminished a little bit. A little bit.>During dinner, she finds herself wrapping her tails around his legs under the table, when he suddenly starts to caress and pet them. One thing leads to another and... on the diner table...>After dinner, she enters the bath after him, just to find him there still and things scalate...>Other
>>1345624>>After dinner, she enters the bath after him, just to find him there still and things scalate...let bath lewd become a tradition
>>1345624>During dinner, she finds herself wrapping her tails around his legs under the table, when he suddenly starts to caress and pet them. One thing leads to another and... on the diner table...
>>1345624>>During dinner, she finds herself wrapping her tails around his legs under the table, when he suddenly starts to caress and pet them. One thing leads to another and... on the diner table...
>>1345594A huge problem for chinese students is, in the continent, the party destroyed millenia old documents and replaced the entire language with a 'streamlined, simplified version', while in taiwan, they are still using the 'classical, millenia old' characters and intonation, so... do you want to learn the millenia old style in which the beautiful classic works were writen in, or the new and modern version used by hundreds of millions?Also, while my parents had noble intentions sending me to chinese classes as a child, a 6 years old is unable to appreciate the importance and beauty of learning his ancestral language so i forgot most of it, im sad to say.As for Okaba, he's a very tall young man with eastern african looks and big feathered wings.Ah, the difference between eastern and western africans is like the difference between spaniards and germans. Sure, they're both europeans, but their nose, for example, is different.Eastern Africa actually had a lot of trade with asia and china (google golden fleet) so they have a more 'asian' flavor, while western africans had more contact with europe. As you can imagine, their facial structure is different.If it helps, Okaba probably looks a lot younger than he is. Like how Im on my late thirties but if I shave I get called "young man" a lot by people YOUNGER THAN I AM.(It pisses me off a little)Well, in general, eastern people look younger to western people. I wouldnt say baby faced, but definitively younger.Just add in some asian features like thinner eyes and rounder cheeks and you should be pretty close. (Again, the rounder cheeks is, IMHO, what causes the 'younger' impression)>>1345644>>1345637>During dinner>>1345634>After dinnerAh by the way, we are later hiring Dawn as our house/servant manager for the island, right? What do you wanna do about Yin. Just keep her as a fellow worker we have a friends with benefits reltionship with, or marry her or what?***Yin sighs and then takes a deep breath.It's been a long day. Literally.Eldric showed up after classes.Due to time zone dffference, it was early in the morning at Mantequira.Then after lunch, they moved over to the protectorate territory, and it was the evening over there.And when they left the village, it was quite late there.Yet upon arriving back 'home', it was still before sunset.Then they worked for a few more hours, and had dinner.All in all, it's been a day, a evening, a night, and a evening again... her biological clock is super confused, plus she can't help but to fidget as she sits at the table in front of him.That itchy sensation between her thighs won't go away, and she can feel the tips of her nipples rubbing against the inside of her dress... why does it feel so itchy?She really hopes he hasn't noticed the way in which her dress is being pushed out from the inside. She could swear is blatantly obvious. To her, anyway.1/?
>>1345673Meanwhile, Eldric is trying to keep his eyes down or on his food.For some reason, Yin looks incredibly alluring right now. Or rather, she's had this strangely arousing, aroused look today... her lips have been slightly parted, her breath seems ragged, and her continuous fidgeting and overly conscious attitude keeps drawing attention towards her hips by sheer force of insistently trying to hide them with her tails.Basically, you don't pay nearly as much attention to something as when it is clearly being hidden from you...And now during dinner, her tails seem to move with a mind of their own...Reaching under the low table, they're starting to cuddle around his legs from the side, rubbing against him gently and sensually...She really seems completely unaware of it, though. A hand buried under the table, she seems to be just focused on her food, enjoying it with gusto, taking deep whiffs before parting her lips for every morsel.'Oh, so this is what a connoiseur looks like, then.' - or thats what he's thinkingHonestly, she's barely managing to keep herself from openly panting. Specially after he casually started petting one of her tails that had wandered too far under the table.As if having a mind of their own, all of her tails escaped in that direction, seemingly demanding his attention.As if she wasn't embarrassed enough!"Ah!" -she let out a little gasp when he idly pinched one of her tails.'H-he picked it up!' - she tries to look to the side when he casually picks up one of her tail's tips and looks at it with some curiosity.'Oh, it feels really different from hair. Its fluffy and soft in a different way than Stella's' - Is what he's thinking"Hmm... s-sir...? D-do you dislike beastkin girls?""Not at all. If anything, I'd say they're cute.""C-cute...?" -she replies while blushing as if he had said she specifically, was cute.Of course, the ones that popped into his mind were Zoe and Stella, though."I specially like the ears." -he says, thinking he's making polite conversation"Is that so... t-then... would you like to feel mine?"She freezes inside. If there was a way to see her mental landscape, its completely solid, like a rock.There's no way she can understand why she's suggesting such a thing.The next thing she knows is, she'd leaned over the table to offer him her head to play with.'I guess beastkin girls are all surprisingly trusting, uh?' - is what he's thinkingShe is leaning over the small table. Her dress shows off her soft-looking, generaous cleavage as if on full display.His hands are on his fluffy ears when with his newly enhanced point of view, he can't help but to notice how her nipples are pushing against the cloth."Ghh..." -she represses a moan as he squeezes her ears with both hands.Behind her, her tails are standing up and swaying softly to a non existent breeze.2/?
>>1345673I'm honestly not liking making Dawn a head maid. There's already a head maid at the island manor, and I believe in promoting from within rather than hiring outside help when possible. Instead, having Dawn be a project manager for our labs and projects would be a better use of her skills. As for Yin, I want to keep her working within the Imperial administration. How does the Empire view husbands with multiple wives, since it's a matriarchal society?
>>1345765She finally shifts her gaze from the table a little upwards towards him... or that was what she meant to do.With her new vantage point, she can clearly notice the large tent on his pants, as his child strains against the fabric, previously hidden from her line of sight.A vision where she's replacing Dawn under Eldric's body flashes into her mind. >She leans further in and goes 'aaahn' as her lips part open and then close around the tip of his pant's tent. (Submissive oriented)>She looks at him straight, eyes trembling as she very gently goes 'chomp' and gives one of his hands a love bite. (Vanilla oriented)>Other>>1345773Alright. I thinks thats best as well, really.What will her status be? Lover, friend with benefits? Do we marry her as well? Those same questions apply to Yin, really.And as for marriage. The empire doesnt believes in marriage. If anything, it would just be a case of several women agreeing to share the same male for reproductive purposes and living together for their own convenience.
In my thirties but still get ID'd if I buy a cigar or something. Not Asian though, it's just my family genes.
>>1345799>>She leans further in and goes 'aaahn' as her lips part open and then close around the tip of his pant's tent. (Submissive oriented)she has already fantasized about this
>>1345802Like I said, his face structure is more round than fine, so his chin, rather than a V is more U The no beard bit is right on, as are the eyes, btw. Hair would be shorter and thicker... uhmm... think african prince so maybe ... uh i dont know the english term... thick braids going back ove the head?Somehow, that pic makes me think of a half elf.
>>1345822>so his chin, rather than a V is more U>Hair would be shorter and thicker...
>>1345799>>She leans further in and goes 'aaahn' as her lips part open and then close around the tip of his pant's tent. (Submissive oriented)definitely friends with benefits.
>>1345812Friends with benefits will work with her
>>1345842Looks good. The chin made me laugh a little, though. You did that on purpose didn't you?I need to clean my screen, it has juice all over now. And whats that thing under his lips, a mole, or a chin cleft? Made me think of pink Tarichttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/2a8yUxFoJVM/maxresdefault.jpg <--- pink taricOther than the chin, it looks perfect. Rathet than a U, it looks more like I_I though. Feels Johny Bravo-like>>1345868>>1345884>Friends with benefits will work with herYou talking about Dawn, right? And what about Yin?I need a minute, Im still laughing from the awesome chin. Well played, sir. 10/10 made me spit my drink
>>1345822Just teasing of course. If I'm around again another time I'll maybe do a version with your changes mentioned, but right now I can't. Thanks for spending the extra time to talk w me though.
>>1345902>You talking about Dawn, right? And what about Yin?I was talking about Yin I'm not sure about Dawn>>1345673>What do you wanna do about Yin. Just keep her as a fellow worker we have a friends with benefits reltionship with, or marry her or what?
>>1345799>>She looks at him straight, eyes trembling as she very gently goes 'chomp' and gives one of his hands a love bite. (Vanilla oriented)Dawn is a friend with benefits. Yin will eventually be a wife but start as an employee who is also a lover.
>>1345902I'm talking about Yin
>>1345799>>1345902switch me to>She looks at him straight, eyes trembling as she very gently goes 'chomp' and gives one of his hands a love bite. (Vanilla oriented)
"Aaahn" She finally leans in and wraps her lips around the very tip of the tent on his pants.Hot and throbbing, she can feel his heartbeat through the fabric.He freezes, and leans over, inadvertly pushing her head down. Instinct taking over, she takes it as an order or an invitation.Her tongue reaches down, hot, wet and delicate as it licks at the fabric of his pants. Her hands gripping the edge of the table so she can steady herself..."Y-yin...""Ah..." -she feels herself melting as he gasps our her name.She lifts her face a little, and without lifting her lips from his pants, looks at him with trembling golden eyes."I'm sorry, sir" -she mumbles softly- "A-am I doing it wrong?"Eldric's reason gets shot down by her cuteness. He shakes his head, and she smiles as she resumes sucking at his member through his pants.Completely comitted now, she decides to imitate Lyann, and pulls his pants open with her teeth.His member pops into view, longer than she imagined, already iron hard and hot, slightly humid under her hot breath."Then, please excuse me." -she says softly as she takes it past her lips.His hands reach for the table's edges as he leans forth, and lets her do as she wants.With her body leaning over the table, her dress gets ruined by the remmants of their dinner as she starts sucking and licking at his child. Her fluffy ears stand up straight, uncannily aware of his every gasp and deep breath while her tails sway softly from side to side.ELDRIC'S POVAfter Yin's surprisingly forward 'attack' Eldric couldn't help but to gasp while she 'ate' him as dessert.After a few minutes, he could feel himself getting ready to explode. At this point though, could he should he would he push her off himself? Did he want to?This was a genuine workplace affair, wasn't it?After tonight, what would their relationship be like if she pushes her off.'If I was gonna push her off, I should have done so right away.'>Lay a hand on the back of her head, and order her to swallow it all. We already lost initiative here, but let's make it clear we are in control. (Let's start a dominant relationship)>Push her off, then strip her and take her on top of the table (Pässionate relationships. Equals)>Other
>>1345975>Push her off, then strip her and take her on top of the table (Passionate relationships. Equals)
>>1345975>Push her off, then strip her and take her on top of the table (Pässionate relationships. Equals)
>>1345902 Thanks n glad to've made you laugh.
>>1345975>>Push her off, then strip her and take her on top of the table (Pässionate relationships. Equals)
>>1345911Thanks for the effort. I hope you grow to like the questhread.>>1346008>>1345995>>Push her off, then strip her and take her on top of the table (Passionate relationships. Equals)Well you know me by now, I would have loved to have the power balance lean towards Eldric, but I think a more balanced relationship has a surprisingly erotic tinge of illicit to it, since its 'their' responsibility."Hh, Yin, hold on... wait, I said wait!" - he pushed her offShe panics, realizing what she had been doing. As she's about to start crying, though, he reaches for her face......the slap never comes.Instead, he gently cups her face, then leans in to kiss her.Her world melts.Stretching over the table on her hands and knees, she kisses him, and is kissed by him.His other hand reaches down towards her waist, and firmly pulls her towards him, sliding her over the table, making her gasp as she's suddenly sitting on the table's edge, her legs spread around his body."Ah, just so you know, I won't treat you any different at work." -he saysShe nods nods, somehow relivedThey kiss again, and he pulls apart her dress, letting it fall back over the table.Her skin is pale and soft.He can't help but to remind herself that hers is the delicate body of a normal office lade. He has to be kind and gentle.She's blushing brightly as he looks at her.Kissing her still, he gently lies her down unto the table, and pushes the remains of their dinner away, making a mess in the floor.Kissing her still, he swallows her moan as he slips into her and takes her virginity away.'Ah, I've really done it now' - she thinks, feeling like a plotting courtesan that had seduced an important lord'Ah, I've really done it now.' - he thinks while hoping she won't resent him for ... - 'wait, wasn't I the one in the receiving end this time!?'They make a mess in the dining hall, and she finally gets to live every fantasy she had."My lord..." >She calls out to him while on hands and knees, her tails spread far to the sides, yet curving in to point at her hips, obviously inviting him.>She cried out while laying on her back over the table with him between her legs, eating her out>She moans out loud as he takes her on the floor, her body laying stretched while he holds her knee over his shoulder and takes her hard and fast while striding her other leg.>Other
>>1346080>>She calls out to him while on hands and knees, her tails spread far to the sides, yet curving in to point at her hips, obviously inviting him.
>>1346080>She calls out to him while on hands and knees, her tails spread far to the sides, yet curving in to point at her hips, obviously inviting him.Look fawd to the tails getting more frisky.Eg. Hold him down or pulling him into her
>>1346080>>She cried out while laying on her back over the table with him between her legs, eating her out
>>1346080>She calls out to him while on hands and knees, her tails spread far to the sides, yet curving in to point at her hips, obviously inviting him.
>>1346164>>1346133>>1346154>She calls out to him while on hands and knees, her tails spread far to the sides, yet curving in to point at her hips, obviously inviting him.>Look fawd to the tails getting more frisky.>Eg. Hold him down or pulling him into herYeah thats what I thought too>>1346163>>>She cried out while laying on her back over the table with him between her legs, eating her out"What a lewd girl. If I didn't know it was your first time, I'd call you a temptress, you know?" -he says while moving over to her and kneeling down, caressing her soft, shapely buttocks"P-please don't say such a thing... instead, I'd much rather you'd mount me?" -she says with just a hint of a blushWhat a daring girl she turned out to be."Alright."He moves behind her and leans over so he can kiss her shoulders, and then nibble at them as his child pokes at her from behind.Her tails wrap around him, gently pulling him towards her."But it's so very you." -he repeats himself- "My lewd little fox girl.""Ah!" -she cries out as he moves into her...>Anal>Vaginal
>>1346212>VaginalYou got work up to the buttIl say beening a fox beastkeen having us mount should just be normal for her
>>1346224>>1346222>>Vaginal>>1346222>You got work up to the buttIt was implied that they had been doing it for a while when I said they made a mess in the dining room, though?I just didnt want to type another cutesy first time, plus I thought this way worked better for the sex bomb I imagine Yin to become now that Eldric popped her cherry."Ah!" - she called out loudly as her superior took her from behind.She could feel her insides adopting the form of his flesh. Squeezing, pulling, sucking at his child.Her breath caught in her throat, it wasn't until he started moving that she let out the other half of her moan and was finally able to breathe again."Hnn..." - she finished her moan"From now on, I'll have you take responsibility for having such a beweitching look in the office!" -he grunted as he hugged her tightly"But that's because the dress...!" - she wanted to say the empress had designed her uniform"I don't care about the dress!" - he shot her down"N-no way...ah! AAhh!" - she moaned out loudThe wet, loud sound of their bodies smacking into each other filled the empty dining room while they enjoyed each other's bodies. A lewd, unmistakable scent of sex covered their bodies.As his left hand reached out under her and cupped her large breast and gave it a squeeze, she could feel her heart coming out her throat."My lord..." -she moaned againHe could feel himself about to blow...>He pulls out, wanting to calm down so he can last longer>As he tries to pull back, her tails wrap around him and he can't!>Other
>>1346270>>He pulls out, wanting to calm down so he can last longerhard choice this one, were'd everybody go?
>>1346350People always vanishes at this hour. IIRC they go home from work, and then reappear an hour after right now.This is why we usually end at this hour.Well, I dislike starting new threads with lewd scenes, so I would prefer to finish the scene during the week to start with a new thread next week.
>>1346270>>As he tries to pull back, her tails wrap around him and he can't!this is what i want
>>1346366i just got back home. we have naver had sex with a bestkin have we?i was thinking she would just be very animistic about sex and loud and passionate just my take on it
>>1346270switch me to>>As he tries to pull back, her tails wrap around him and he can't!
>>1346373Yes thats what I thought, thats why she's being surprisingly forward on her first time.
>>1346378>>1346368>>>As he tries to pull back, her tails wrap around him and he can't!"Nn... my lord, don't..." -she whimpers as she feels him about to pull out. Her tails wrap around him, lightning fast, and pull him forth just as fast- "Nhhaa!?" Of course, that has the effect of forcing him into her at lightning speed, j-j-j-jamming in his children in her tight flower."Uhn...!" - he can't help himself, and starts emptying himself inside her!Leaning over her, he lets out a grunt as his lenght is fully imbedded inside her, pushing at the entrance of her womb as if it wanted to break into the core of her feminity and claim her for itself."Nhha..." -she cooes happily as she feels his seed spray hard against the entrance of her womb. A powerful orgasm washes over her from the tip of her ears to the tip of her tails, causing her to squeeze him against her even harder.Trapped by her surprisingly soft fluffy tails against her hot, trembling body, Eldric can't help but to shoot his seed inside her in a long, violent stream, as if trying to drown her in his seed."Ah...">Lets continue in the bathroom>Let's go the bedroom>Have her reposition unto the 'ready' posture so we can claim her ass for the first time>Other
>>1346417>>Lets continue in the bathroom>>1346379nice to know we are on the same page
>>1346417>>Lets continue in the bathroom
>>1346417have you every htought about wrighting sexual novles for liek money?or just slighty editing this quest and make it into a book?
>>1346442>have you every htought about wrighting sexual novles for liek money?No, but I'd like to write ero-manga with someone else drawing. I think its a shame that good artists think they can write. Many really really can't. Take the author of Air Gear and Tenjoy Tenge for example, or the author of Bleach. They can draw amazingly well, but they write like SHIT.S.H.I.T.Western comic industry is much more mature in that they treat comic production like a team effort. There's writers, artists, and even someone who does nothing but prepare the colors and, well, color the comic.If you ever can, read Batman vs Predator.It's batman, vs predator. Meaning, the script could be shit if handled by 90% of writers, yet they found the right one to write a really batman-like story and it turned out great.The artist could have been better, but... the inker was a GOD.Seriously, just the colorworks on it make it a worthwile purchase. I have a copy, and have given one to all my important RL friends. It's just THAT amazing.>or just slighty editing this quest and make it into a book?Sure, but I think a LN format would work better, really. Plus I would still want a good artist to draw stuff for it. If I could find one willing to work for a % of the profits, I would go ahead and do it.An adult-oriented comic like Slaine The Horned God, or Druuna, would be best.If you can draw or know someone who would be interested, let me know.>>1346436>>1346425>>>Lets continue in the bathroomAfter emptying himself inside of Yin, Eldric leaned over her and passionately kissed her, holding her chin with his fingers while they enjoyed a surprisingly lewd, long kiss."Ah... we made a mess..." -she says, somewhat embarrassed now that the effect of the pheromones has worn offIts to be noticed, that having come this far, rather than 'what did I do!?', her inner self is more of a 'yes! I did it!' type.That's because, she actually admires her young lord quite a bit, and has no issue sharing herself with him from now on.She is a bit worried about how she will face the manor's servants from tomorrow onwards, but... its not as if they talked a lot to begin with."My lord... we should take a bath." -she says as he lets go of her lips"Right." -he nods- "In a minute." He is enjoying the feeling of her body between his arms and around his child."Alright." -she kisses him with a smileA little later, they walk into the bath while holding hands. >She takes initiative>He takes initiative>They just wash and then go back to 'normal'>Other
>>1346524>She takes initiativeShes hungery Iv only every watch the air gear show i liked it.Havent read many comic books or manga sadly.Would be good if you could find someone.I cant healp you out with that sadly
>>1346547But i do adgree with you about how sometimws the wirght cant draw and the artist shouldnt make up how the story gose
>>1346547>Iv only every watch the air gear show i liked it.You know why it was never properly ended? Because it later on turns to shit. Same with the author's other work, Tenjoy Tenge.It's like he's a one trick pony that only knows how to do one thing, and that is drawing (nice) asses, and maining girls.Not kissing. In both mangas, he ends up maiming several girls for cheap dramatic effect.Air Gear -> Leg amputation, since it was about skaterollingTenjoy Tengue -> Arms amputation since it was about fightingEither way, the impression you are left with is "aww but X was her life joy and now she can't do it!"Its also very obvious thats why he did it, and in both cases, all the characters cried... its like one scene is copied off the other. Its cheap, really bad attempt at menipulating the audience.And neither manga had a TRUE END, either, because he didn't think of one.Like the guy that draws BLEACH.By his own admission, he 'doesn't writes, just likes to draw cool shit, and the story is there to get from cool scene to cool scene" everything in between is filler.
>>1346524>>She takes initiative
>>1346568oh shit thats way it naver ended right?i used to be pissed baout how it ededbut now im kinda happyyer i got over bleach like half way though it.i mea the fights and cool drawing but it was too muchyou realy need to have a story going then draw not make the stroy to fit the drawings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84KoXIKZkGs>>1346580>>1346547>>She takes initiative"H,,," -she ventures softly"Yes?""I..." -she admits softly- "Saw you with lady Lyann, once?""Yes, and?""I mean... here, on that bench over there, and under the water spray over there." -she says quietly"Oh."There's a small, awkward silence."Can we try that out?" - his expression as she says so is priceless."...alright."She is fully sattisfied, having finally lived out everything she had dreamt of, and ends up falling asleep under the sheets of his bed.*sigh*He looks at the beautiful fox girl by his side.'Lyann's going to be pissed' -then, he smiles- 'I'll need to share Yin with her before she can forgive me.'Well, things have a way of working out in the end.***And that's it, let's end here for this week. We stablshed that Eldric was Yin's first time, but that instead of him secuding her, it was more her attacking him, and that despite it being her first time, she's a very adventurous in bed, and honest with what she wants.Maybe we can have short'ish scenes of them in the future. A classic would be to have him kiss her against a wall, or even better somehow, her kissing him against a wall.Somehow I think that fits them better. Having her be the one to initiate things most of the time.What do you guys think? Any specific scenarios you'd like me to type out in the future? And can you guys please archive the thread?
>>1346775im happy with that.or like he would be just walking around and then she jumps on him out of no wehre
>>1347036is english your first language? just curious
>>1347112Yer it is.Just not the best with typeing and spelling.
>>1347112but about us shairing the fox, i dont know if she would want that at first, like she probs thinks its better to be sneaky about it so might have to rope her in like with actual rope
>>1347124This could work amazingly if Eldric told Lyann about this and she wants to start showing more things to Yin in order to entice Yin into sharing. Like scenes at the mansion where Eldric has 'fun' with his wifes and pets while Yin is there as well but only Yin doesn't know that everyone else involved knows that shes peeking.
Uhmmm at some point I wanna write a naughty scene about 'training' our petsm or maybe our 0love slave' (Lyann) to be a better sex toy, like we have teased her several times, but one thing is teasing her about it and another actually doing it.What do you guys think? Maybe type it in as an omake and have you guys later decide if you want it as canon or notBy the way this is the last Yin pic in my folder, if you have more, feel free to post them so I can add them
>>1348006Yeah, type it as an omake first.
>>1348015seconding, also could you write a Lyann version first.
>>1348045You mean from her POV? Eh, I already wrote one, though. Rather than being one sided to his or her POV, though, I wrote it so it read from a third person's POV, though.I'll write one from just her POV next time if you guys want."Hn!" - the redhead bit on her lower lip as she trembled, her body on fire."No, no, you deal with it by saying "Yes! Thank you master!" or "Yea! Again, please!" after each blow.""Fuuu... but- ah!" -she started to complain with wet eyes, when her shapely ass got slapped again."No back-talk! You said you wanted to be my slave, and I accepted your feelings. Then, from now on, I'll train you to my liking." - said Eldric as he caressed his beloved's shapely ass with the same hand he had just spanked it.They were at their Mantequira manor's bedroom (because yes, he thinks of it and the island manor as 'their' homes), with him sitting at the edge of the bed, and the stunning redhead laying sidewise on his lap, legs hanging down towards his left side while her head was to his right side. Her arms were weren't bound, but they were hold behind her back. Her right hand was holding her left upper arm, and her left hand was holding her right upper arm.Well, he had prepared quite a few props for her 'exclusive use' but... none of them were restraints. She would always be his accomplice, a fellow and conspirator, on anything he did to to her. It was Lyann and Eldric, enjoying Lyann's body, together. It would never be just him imposing on her."You really like it when I boss you around." - he said while sliding his hand down over her ass towards her flower, and finding it dripping wet after a few playful slaps."Hnn..." -she complained, blushing red*SMACK!*He slapped her again, and again caressed her ass roughly immediately after doing so."It's not 'hn!' is it? When you wear the collar, you can't lie, can you?""T-that's true, I can't.""Then with words, do you like it when I do this?"*SMACK!*"Hh!? ...y-yes. I like it when you do that." -she said softly, a blush growing from the tip of her ears to the tip of her toes."Louder, slave."*SMACK!*"Yes! I like it very much!""You're a submissive and a masochist" -he said with an approving tone- "You're a natural slave.""Fuu..."1/?
>>1348053*SMACK!* - he hit her ass again-"Ah!""If you didn't like it, I wouldn't do it. That's because I love my Lyann very much, and only want to make her happy." -he said while caressing her sore ass- "So, do you like it when I treat you like this?""Yes...""Louder.""Yes! Yes, I like it when you treat me like this!"*SMACK!* - and again. His hand sending short-lived ripples over her shapely ass"Ah! W-why'd you do that for!?""Because you like it."*SMACK!* - a firmer one this time"Ah!"*SMACK!* - and just as firm again"Hn!"*SMACK!* - waiting until after she gasped, he slapped her ass again"Oooh"*SMACK!* - finally, he give her a slap hard enough to push her forth on his lap"Ah! ah... aaah...""You really want to be my slave?""Yes!" -she declared loudly, then lowered her voice again- "I want to be your slave.""And if I want to train you as my toy?""Then... I'll be your toy.""Then, I'll train you as a toy. A sex toy. Will that make you happy?""...yes." -she replied softly"Louder and clearer.""I want to be your toy! I want to be your sex toy!" -she cried out loud, so red from tip to toe that her body almost matched her bright red hair*SMACK!*"Good girl. You may cum now.""E-eh!? Just from that? B-but...!"*SMACK!*"Five." -he said"E-eeeeh!? But..."*SMACK!*"Thank you Master""Four."*SMACK!*"T-thank you Master!""Three"*SMACK!*"Tha-aah! Thank-you mshterrr.." -she let out while her body trembled"Two. Good girl. No... good slave. Now cum! Cum and thank me for being made to cum!"2/3
>>1348053It was more that you could write a training omake for both Lyann and the pets starting with Lyann
>>1348058*SMACK!* -he slapped her hard enough to cause her breasts to jiggle as they hung feely under her."One.""A-aAaAAH! A-AH! Ahh... I'm cumminhhh!? T-thanky-uuu Mssssht-rrrraaAAAH Ah!"He caressed her as she came, and held her arms to keep them in place. As expected, she couldn't hold on after cumming like that, and wouldn't be able to keep her arms in place if he didn't help."Thank me properly. Do it now." -he said after he estimated she had had enough time to calm down. Enough so that she could talk, anyway."Ah... t-thank you Master for making me cum." -she said with a happy expression and teary eyes."You are welcome, but is that how you are meant to do it?""Yes! Thank you Master." -she said with a openly sexual expression on her gorgeous face- "Again, please!""Good girl. Ah, perhaps I should say, good slave, instead? What would you prefer?""I love you.""That came out of nowhere." -he said, surprised but happy- "But don't dodge the question. Do you prefer it when I call you girl, or do you prefer it when I call you slave?" -he asked while caressing her neck with one hand, and her bright red ass with the other."I like it when you call me slave." -she admitted after a little bit"Is that so? But do you prefer it?""It... it makes me feel hot inside.""Inside? Inside where?""M-meanie!""Inside where, slave?""It lits my womb on fire." -she admitted"Alright, then when we're together from now on, I'll call you slave. Now thank me.""Yes! Thank you Master."*SMACK!* - he gave her a very tender slap, yet made sure it was loud by hollowing out his palm"Ah- Y-yes! Thank you Master!" -she cried out after he slapped her ass"I love you, he replied."Then he slapped her ass until she came again>Its canon>Its not
>>1348070>>Its canonTraining Lyann to keep her positions through an orgasms
>>1348064Uhmm... I think group training would be more about honestly just teaching them civilized manners and such. Sex training would probably always be one on one, maybe two girls at the time at most.I get the impression both Lyra and Fahima are the pets we're training as hard SM slaves, while the others are more playmates or pampered daughterus, you know?By the way, assuming you want us to continue down this route with Lyann, I assume she's the one we'll be 'strictest' with?So it would be, from most vanilla and cutesy to most SMMako, Stella, Zoe (assuming we do ever add our beastkin imoutos to our bed)Aritsu, Nina, probably any other harpy we add later?Dawn, Yin (its not really love. Its mostly sex, I think. Unless it evolved into such down the road)FloraMiel, Tanis, Miel IILyra, FahimaLyannDo you want to move any girl around to another tier, add another girl, or anything else?>>1348072>Training Lyann to keep her positions through an orgasmsSounds fairHow about giving her a 'cold count', meaning when she's not previously aroused. Like, just casually taking her to an isolated place at any time, giving her a five count, having her cum, and then send her back to whatever she was doing?She's brooming the hallway at home, when we call her over to our room, have her cum, thank her, than send her back to brooming the hallway.Or training her cervix so her womb becomes an extrension of her sex during coitus. IE training it to open right away to allow for deep penetration.And sure, train her to keep position regardless of if she's coming or not.Maybe shame-train her? Rather than anything physical, just embarrassing her and making her admit to her lewd preferences during sex. She already can cum while giving Eldric oral sex, so maybe have her admit it? I dunno, ideas welcomed.Anyway I'll wait for a while to see if more people want their SM relationship to be canon or not. We'll only go with it if we get 4 'yes' vote since 4 people is almost all the active thread participants and I don't want to drive anyone away.
>>1348080>How about giving her a 'cold count', meaning when she's not previously aroused. Like, just casually taking her to an isolated place at any time, giving her a five count, having her cum, and then send her back to whatever she was doing?>She's brooming the hallway at home, when we call her over to our room, have her cum, thank her, than send her back to brooming the hallway.>Or training her cervix so her womb becomes an extrension of her sex during coitus. IE training it to open right away to allow for deep penetration.These are awesome ideas, also I personally want to train her to become more accepting of her lewd desires and not really being that strict with her.
>>1348080you cna do any of those or just doing the whole slave thing with coller and cuffs nad chains
>>1348070>>Its canoni just hope people can keep the differnt sex lifes betewn the differnt girls and pets differntand not all ed up beening bdsm sex toys or what ever
>>1348080which after reading your last post was looking liek thats what you had in minde any ways woops
>>1348107I kinda want to train Lyann into a proud high quality pleasure slave.
>>1348107>These are awesome ideas, also I personally want to train her to become more accepting of her lewd desiresWell yeah, that's the idea. Have her accept to herself that she enjoys it and be less embarrassed about it.Of course we'll tease her a lot first, cause it's fun.But yeah, eventually, have her be more openly sensual, I think. At least in bed.>and not really being that strict with her....But that's what she likes>>1348125>you cna do any of those or just doing the whole slave thing with coller and cuffs nad chainsSo basically, you want props? seems fine as long as she can actually remove them if she wants. I guess we can just give her a safeword?>>1348154Eh, Im not sure how that would go with our every day life. Im rather sure family and friends would dissapprove... maybe?Thats why I was thinking of keeping the SM stuff as just their private thing. Maybe making into their REALLY REALLY private thing.Meaning, they're pretty cutesy and vanilla even when in bed with other girls, and he only treats her like this when they're alone or with other similar girls (like Fahima or Lyra).Or would it be better if it was just a bedroom thing, but a 'open' bedroom thing? Like, she's everyone's toy in bedroom, or so?Anyway looks like we have 2 'yes' already? I have to go out in an hour, but if we get 2 more yes I'll consider it as approved and we'll start discussing the 'Everyone's toy' vs 'Eldric's toy' idea.
>>1348182>>and not really being that strict with her.>...But that's what she likesWell if that is so then lets go with it>Or would it be better if it was just a bedroom thing, but a 'open' bedroom thing? Like, she's everyone's toy in bedroom, or so?She should in private be a toy to the wives but above the pets.
>>1348154This was more of a in private thing
>>1348182So basically, you want props? seems fine as long as she can actually remove them if she wants. I guess we can just give her a safeword? safe words and ether have somethign to cut or pull of the props fast or just have them be magic and drop off if a word is spokenEldric's toy' idea. i think at frist should just be his and then since he cares so much about the others he shairs his toy and i dont think she would care as long as she knows that his loveing useing her liek this, a slave should plase her master in every way
>>1348426>So basically, you want props? seems fine as long as she can actually remove them if she wants. I guess we can just give her a safe word?>safe words and ether have something to cut or pull of the props fast or just have them be magic and drop off if a word is spoken>Eldric's toy' idea. i think at first should just be his and then since he cares so much about the others he shairs his toy and i dont think she would care as long as she knows that his loving using her like this, a slave should please her master in every way
Well, as a Devadasi, she can easily remove any and all cursed items, so we could have the "chains" be "cursed" to cause her sensitivity to raise or to keep her from cumming until her master says so and such... since she can remove them if she WANTS to, i'd be okay with that.Same as with the collar, she can remove it any time she wants to
>>1348614Personally though, I -really- REALLY prefer the idea of her holding this or that posute, or holding her own upper arms or ankles or whatever, just because she was told to.Her desire to please and make Eldric happy is all the chain she needs. I think thats a lot more beautiful than accessorizing her with chains or ropes or cuffs or whatever.But I guess making it so she can take them off any time she wants is a good compromise
>>1348625They could just accesories and not do any thing really just to accentuate that it really is just Lyanns love that binds her
>>1348633Like any chains and cuffs are more like works of art than bondage instruments, the chains being visibly too long to actually restrict her, etc.Shibari actually needs the rope and Eldric could use it to turn our lovely Lyann into a work of art.
Alright, so it seems pretty clear its now canon that Lyann is submissive and at least a little masochistic (when it comes to Eldric at least).Honestly I think she's pretty agressive when its about the other girls, though, Is that just me?So, the previous one was from a 3rd person point of view, would you like the next to be >3rd person again>Eldric's POV>Lyann's POV>Dawn, Yin or Aritsu as they peek at them>Other
>>1348748>Aritsu's POV as she peeks at themCould you have her make eye contact with Yin peeking from another direction.
>>1348748>>Lyann's POVwith mybe Aritsu wlaking come in at the end wth cream and wraps
>>1348780>>Lyann's POV>with maybe Aritsu walking in at the end with cream and wrapsthis could also work
>>1348792Why? In a world with healing magic, wouldnt that be needless? I dont think I am talking about what you meant, though. Im thinking bandages
>>1348748>Yin and Aritsu as they peek at them
>>1348800true true.more the thought counts i guse?though big E should be the one to care for her after woulds or would she rather one of the girls? artfer e leaves her to brign in food ? idk
>>1348802>>Eldric's POV>>1348776>>Aritsu's POV>>1348792>>1348780>>>Lyann's POV""Hnn..."" - they kissed each other for a good give minutes, their lips seemingly glued together as they shared a very tender kiss.It was the ideal romance novel kiss. The type they have at the book's end before living happily ever after.Which was of course what made it look so extremely lewd and naughty, considering the situation.The redhead was hanging from her wrists in the middle of the bedroom, near the bed's feet, her beautiful body covered in drops of sweat which glowed like gems on her skin. There were long, red welts here and there all over her body, but specially on her ass, lower back and upper thighs, with just a few over her smooth tummy, legs and upper back, and just the one across her breasts, which openly defied gravity as their torpedoe shape pointed straight ahead despite their generous size and weight.She couldn't see, but she wasn't blindfolded. No. Instead, her master had simply told her to close her eyes, and she had done so until further notice, entrusting herself to him while hoping for abuse.Well, she wasn't literally hanging from her wrist. To be technically correct, she was standing on the tiptoes of her right foot, her left leg pulled up at the knee with a rope that, like the ones on her wrists, reached up all the way to a bright metal ring hanging from the roof.Thus, she was held completely open in a standing posture while her lover... no, her 'master', she reminded herself so happily that she could feel her heart beating as if to escape her chest during their kiss.She had always, always longed for this. Well, perhaps not exactly like this, but this.She wanted to be his object of desire. She wanted him to show her his every kink and fantasy, and she wanted to make it come true for him. She loved him, she had loved him for years.To be quite honest, she was really angry and more than a little resented to the goddess that had so easily dumped all of the world's responsibilities and needs on a 10 years old boy's lap. She had studied and trained and gone into the dungeon with and without him so she could be useful to him, help take some pressure of his shoulders, support him in any way he needed, and be there for him to ... well, anything, really.She just wanted him to look at her for anything and everything. She wanted to be -the- love in his life, but did not want to pressure him into it. If he wanted other girls, she would help him make them his.1/?
>>1348907That was the idea, anyway, but after the first time she saw him with someone else, she realized... at some level, she really enjoyed watching him with other girls. It validated and reinforced her own impressions of him. 'Look how many girls know my Eldric is the best!' - when was it that she noticed, this is how she felt?That's why, watching him be choosen by so many good girls made her happy, in a slightly selfish kind of way.'Look how many other females know, my Eldric is the best!'Their kiss continued. His hand slid down her upwards-bound leg, caressing her thigh, then moving down towards her exposed flower and casually slipping into it.She felt like exploding. It was not a 'she could tell she would cum soon' situation, but rather a 'she could barely hold herself from cumming' situation whenever he was with her. Even now, as her body was covered in stinging welts, sweaty and sore after his 'sex toy training' as he called it. Even now, as soon as he kissed her, as soon as he touched her, all she could do was to just barely hold herself back by the skin of her teeth."You won't cum until I say so." - he said, and she intended to make it so.- "If you're my toy, then shouldn't I be the one that has the fun?"She wholeheartedly agreed. She wanted him to be happy, and enjoy himself, and relax, and touch her. She was the happiest when he gave her his undivided attention, like now. But she also enjoys it when he's with other girls.2/?
>>1348944>This is just fine!
>>1348914No, she enjoys it when other girls surrender to him. That's what she had suddenly realized one night after watching him with the elven princess.It gives her such a feeling, she's about to cum, every time."You haven't cum?" - he asked after breaking the kiss."No Master." - she replied with a smile more honest and happy than any she had ever made. It was so terribly alluring, he could feel his child grow iron hard at the sight."Why not?""Because you said I should not." -she said, matter of fact"And if I said you could.""Please, please do!" -she begged, trembling a little as she could feel herself about to 'break' and cumHe kissed her lips, then her chin, and moved down to her neck.He kissed her breasts' top, then held one with his hand and gently brought its nipple to his mouth."Tonight, we'll end when you cum." - he said - "So cum whenever you want.""Hnn! M-meanie!"And that was it. She had his permission. She could finally cum! But if she did, he would let her down, heal her and wash her body. He would kiss and pamper and cuddle, and the night would be done.She felt herself squirt a little bit. Her nextar flowed down her thigh and dripped from his hand."Do you want to cum?""Yes Master." -she replied right away. As long as she wears her collar, she cannot lie."Then why don't you?""If I do, we're done for tonight. So I don't want to!""What a greedy slave you are.""Yes. I want Master to love me a whole lot more tonight.""And if I wanted to end it anyway?""If... if that's what you want... because I'm yours...""Because you are my sex toy?""Because I'm your sex toy." -she replied"And you'd be okay with that, ending all hot and bothered?""Because I'm your sex toy." -she repeated"And, if I left you hanging there all night?""I am your sex toy." -she repeated while trembling in excitement- "I am your slave. I love you!"He knows she cannot lie."What a unfair woman you are, wielding the truth like a hammer against my heart." -he said, and kissed her'I love you! I love you! I love you! I love you! I love you! I love you! I love you! I love you! I love you! I love you! I love you! I love you! I love you! I love you!' - she screamed in her heart."And you are my slave?""I am your slave.""And you are my toy?""I am your toy.""And you are my sex toy?""Yes, anything you want!">This is too cutesy and vanilla! We need to go deeper, it needs to be way harder S/M!>A little harder would be nice>This is just fine!>Let's back off a little bit>Woah, like, let's go back, a lot!>Other
>>1348953Captcha is SO hard when you are this blind... I honestly get pissed and then focus on the captcha and forget about the spoilers...
>>1348954>This is too cutesy and vanilla! We need to go deeper, it needs to be way harder S/M!>Have Lyann confess what kind of depravities she wants Eldric to do to herShe wants to go deep, we go as deep as she wants!
>>1348944>>This is just fine!>Have Lyann confess what kind of depravities she wants Eldric to do to herjjust for now, next time we go go deep
>>1348954sounds like she loves beening his toyand makeing other girls become hisso i guse she stays our toy but forces the others to ether get wet for him and take it, or flat out tells them too.
>>1348954>This is too cutesy and vanilla! We need to go deeper
>>1348979>She wants to go deep, we go as deep as she wants!Those options were in our POV not hers, though. I thought it was obvious...>>1348979>>1349025>This is too cutesy and vanilla!>1348953>1348997 (? I'm asking in general/permanently, you wanna change your vote?)>This is just fine!Im gonna wait for a bit and then roll a dice unless someone wants to change his/her vote.
>>1349043No, sticking with my vote.
>>1349043I'll change my vote to >>1348997
>>1349069Alright, so keeping this level of naughty. As for her own ideas... she doesn't really has any. She's just stupidly in love with Eldric.Thats the in-world explanation. The fact is, I really don't want to push my fetishes unto the thread.If YOU the players have ani suggestions though, I'll be happy to submit it to a vote.***She trembled when he hugged, and felt like crying when he kissed. His touch was like fire on her skin. She imagined his fingertips leaving trails of fire on her skin as she trembled, just barely able to hold back until he kissed her, and then she cried in defeat as she orgasmed between his arms."Alright, love, let's stop here." -he said after giving her another little kiss, and made to untie the ropes from the smaller brass ring they were anchored to a few feet high on the wall."Hnn... y-you meanie! You cheated!" -she cries out, refusing to open her eyes and give up- "You knew i'd cum if you'd kiss me!""Ah, but isn't it still your fault, though?" -he replied in a good mood as he untied the ropes, and started by lowering her raised knee so she could support herself on both legs."It was your fault..." - she whined, not wanting it to be done for the night."Oh?" - he stopped, just short of untying the ropes holding her arms up- "And why's that?""Because you know I love you so much.""I love you very much as well." -he was trying to be careful and not fall into the 'no, I love you more' sappy clichéShe looked so beautiful from behind. Just by standing there on tiptoes, her body stretched up.Her curves were flawless, as if designed to arouse desire and lust. Perfectly feminine, neither too soft nor hard, a perfect dancer's body, as if sculpted by some secretly perverted grand master of the renaissance."Please don't call it done." -she begged- "Please, Master?""Open your eyes." -he said while caressing her back"I don't wanna!" -she cried. She knew it'd be over if she looked at him"Open your eyes, he repeated.""I don't want to!" -she repeated herself like a child."You're my toy, aren't you?" -he said as he kissed at the nape of her neck"Yes! I'm your toy!" -she moaned the words, cooed them, let them flow from the bottom of her heart."Then do as I say."1/?
>>1349719She looked at him, her shining eyes trembling while drowning in unspilled tears."Let's talk for a bit." -he kissed herShe suddenly noticed, he didn't untie her after all."Yes Master! Thank you, Master!" -she replied like 'a good toy' should"You said it was my fault.""But...""You cannot lie.""I cannot.""Therefore, it was my fault, wasn't it? That was the truth.""..."He kept caressing her while he spoke, and pressed his forehead against hers. Her body was trembling, gorgeous and glowing with sweat."Why was it my fault?""Because you kissed me... I couldn't hold it anymore.""That's true. Why couldn't you hold it anymore?""Because... because I love it when you kiss me. Because I love you so much.""But you were meant to hold, weren't you?""Yes..." -she said softly"Then why didn't you. I want you to think about it, and come up with a different answer this time."She looked at him, her lips wide open as she tried to calm her breath and think, think as fast as she could.Something else, another truth. What else was there? She was his, and she loved it. She loved him. Being with him made her happy. Making him happy made her happy. For him, she had become a toy, and he had been training her to his liking...She looked at him, then looked away by just turning her eyes. She looked quite lovely on his eyes."..." - she replied, so softly it wasn't even a whisper yet"What was that?" -he asked"I wasn't trained enough." - she repeats herself"Is that the truth?""I cannot lie.""You cannot lie." -he confirmed- "So it was my fault, because I didn't train you enough.""T-that's right. I wasn't trained enough, so I couldn't hold back as I should." -she replied, hopefully"Is that a matter of time. Will you be able to hold back in a week, a month or a year? Do you think you will be able to, given enough time?"She looked away."Answer me, slave."She closed her eyes, like a child trying to escape an adult's scrutinizing look"Answer me, love."She could feel herself growing hot just because of his voice, just because of his closeness to her. There was no way she'd be able to, and she knew it.
>>1349724"No..." -she finally said- "It's not about time.""What is it then? Answer me, my beautiful love that cannot lie.""It's because... you're too kind to me. I knew you'd keep going if I asked you to.""I see. Then, we really should stop here for tonight."She panicked."Ah! B-but, that wouldn't make you happy?" -she hesitantly asked"Actually, untying you and taking you to bed, then making sweet and gentle love to you till dawn would make me really happy, you know?""Hnn..." -she whined"You don't want that, though. Do you?""....no.""And why not? I'm sure you'd enjoy it. You'd certainly cum lots. You always do." -he gave her a little kiss."But then... I would have failed as your toy.""That's true. You would have failed as my toy.""I don't want that!""And, what if I wanted you to be my love, and not my toy?""...""What was that?""...I like it, being your toy.""I see, you like it. What a naughty girl you are. Shameless and lewd! You'd cum with a kiss, wouldn't you!?""I... I would... I am a naughty, lewd slave that would cum with your kiss!"He kissed her hard, possessively, hugging her body between his arms, holding her against him while her body bent slightly, still suspended by her wrists, still standing on her toes. He kissed her until she had a powerful orgasm between his arms, until she trembled and grew hot like coals on the fire."Are you a naughty slave?" - he asked her after the kiss"I'm a naughty slave." -she answered"Do you want to be trained?""I, I want to be trained.""Do you want to be a toy.""I want to be -your- toy.""Do you want to be -a- toy?""...""Do you want to be a toy?" -he repeated himself"...I want to be a toy." -she answered, blushing bright redHe kissed her again, more gently this time. It was a very long, very gentle kiss."I'll make you into my toy.""Yes, thank you Master" -she replied with a smile"A toy is not a slave, though. A toy is a thing." -he said"I will be a thing for Master's fun. I will be a toy.""A toy is not a person, so as my toy, do not use 'I' again.""I won't...! Ah... then... your toy won't do it again!" -she replied, feeling herself growing more and more aroused by the moment."And if I wanted to end this for the night?""A toy does not complain..." -she said softly- "...but...""But?""Your toy wants to be toyed with," -she said. It was a liberating experience, and she found herself being able to say so while smiling without a hint of embarrasment or shame. It was the truth. She wanted to be toyed with."My Lyann toy wants to be toyed with." -he said to himself"Your Lyann wants to be toyed with." -she repeated- "Since Lyann is a toy, calling it your Lyann toy is redundant, isn't it?""My toy wants to be toyed with, then. Or my Lyann wants to be toyed with." -he added"that's right." He kissed her again, with a very little kiss
>>1349729"What a shameless slave.""A toy has no shame." -she said. It was enormously liberating."And if I untied you and took you to the bed?""A toy is happy to be toyed with, in any way its Master wishes to.""What a good toy.">Take her to the bed and make tender love to her>Have her close her eyes and grab a crop>Other (suggestions?)
>>1349735>>Have her close her eyes and grab a crop
>>1349735>Take her to the bed and make tender love to her
>>1349735>>1349827how about we >>Have her close her eyes and grab a crop then pull her to the bed make tender love to her but she has to keep her eyes clsoed idktrying to combine the 2
>>1350148Eh, I later realized I was in the wrong, I should have just said "grabs a toy". I was thinking it wouldnt be hard to make something like a magical rotor, forcefully tilt it off its axis, and thus make it into a vibrating egg.Well, we did say we were going to try and train her to be a masochist so I guess playing with the crop would be fine as well.
And by the way, this is about how to wrap the scene, wether by making sweet tender love to her in bed or continue to 'train' her. I think it's a good spot to end either way.
>>1349735>>Have her close her eyes and grab a cropor just a toy either is good
"Alright then. Close your eyes." -he says with a smile like he's given up on this lewd slave of his. No, this lewd toy."Yes! Thank you Master!" -she replies happily"Oh, now you're answering like a proper toy, uh?""Yes. Thank you Master." -she replies again with a smile"Same rules as before. It ends if you cum, understand?""Yes! Thank you Master!" -she smiled mischievously"Alright." - he kissed herTrembling a little bit, the beautiful redhead waited for whatever may come. This time, she was determined to hold fast and keep herself from cumming no matter what.'I'll be fine, as long as he doesn't kiss me' – she thought with a smileThe first thing he did was kiss her.Afterwards as they washed and cuddled each other in the bath, she kept complaining and accusing him of being a cheat as he washed his shoulders and chest, her fiery hair spread on the humid floor like rivers of fire around them, her twintails undone."But, you held out quite well." -he gave her a little kiss"Uhh... you're still a meanie...""I just like watching you cum.""Then why...!?""Isn't that what you want?" -he said as he rinsed off her hair and pulled it off her pretty face"...yes.""Naughty girl."She blushed a little bit."Ah, did you like the crop?""...it grew on me.""It wasn't too hard?""It was scary at first, but it wasn't too hard.""If you don't want me to, I won't use it." -he assures her, and pulls her to him, turning her around so they can cuddle"In case it wasn't clear" -she says- "Anything you want to do, I want you to.""Even the crop?""Even the crop.""I was really worried." -he confesses"About what?""You were whipped as a child." -he said while hugging her thight"...I was.""It must have been scary. You must have hated it.""It was. I did.""That'swhy..."She turned her head around a little, and kissed him."It's completely different." -she says after the kiss- "I love you. If you want to chain me up, I'll love your chains. If you want to use a crop, I'll love the crop.""And if I was to use a whip?""Somehow, I can't see you doing that, though?""But you'd hate it, right?""...I think... I would at first. But only at first." -she says- "And then I'll love it, because it's your whip.""What a naughty slave.""Is that bad?""No, I love my naughty Lyann that can say things like 'Yes, thank you' and 'Again, please' and mean it. And you know why?""...I wonder?""Because you look so happy when you do. My naughty, masochist slave."She blushed crimson red.****And that's it, I hope you guys liked it. If you have any requests or suggestions in mind, as usual feel free to drop them on the thread and I'll read them at some point.Suggestions for further training sessions? Positions or anything else you come up with, feel free to suggest it and if I'm okay typing it, we'll call a vote for it.I was thinking in assigning a spot along the wall to her as a 'stand by' or storage for when she's still in toy mode, but its not being 'used'
>>1350731Uhh... I was really hoping for some feedback
>>1351834You'll get some soon
>>1351834I liked that, a nice mixture of fluff and S&M. Assigning a spot along the wall to her as a 'stand by' or storage for when she's still in toy mode, but its not being 'used' will be nice after we have introduced this side of Lyann to our other wives, also some shibari might be a nice spice for these. Now the question becomes: How deep is Eldric willing to go?
>>1351922He comes from a world with internet. He should have accumulated a ton of ideas even if he didnt want to. Because internet.The thing is, what do you the players want him to do?And yeah I get the shibari vibe from you, I can take a hint, you want shibari. Im not familiar with it, but I guess I'll look into it soon
>>1351982Sorry, I'm not really interested in S&M but can enjoy it. So we might need someone else to do some research.
>>1352050Just looked into shibari, but it looks pretty dangerous for someone who doesnt knows about it, to just try it out.Well I guess that with her stats its not a problem, though? Also, it looks like something that will take quite a while. Something for either the first half of a training session, or maybe to immobilize her afterwards (until morning?) as a cherry on top after the training session ends. I think.
>>1352084They can train together then, with stats allowing some leeway, untill Eldric can proudly show his beautifull Lyann art work to his other wives.
>>1352115I guess he can get the idea from watching some statues at a museum or temple?
>>1352119I suppose for some poses, but I don't think they would necessarily work with the rope work. The two are separate and they don't necessarily go together.
>>1352127Well, im just trying to find an IC reason for it... wait, what if Eldric was asian? Wouldnt that raise his chances of knowing shibari a lot?
>>1352805At least as a cultural inheritance thing.Well, maybe he just liked hentai? :P Though that would help a lot to justify a lot of things. I honestly think that what ive read of shibari in the last day doesnt makes it look like something that would pop up in hentai a lot, though
So, the ONLY request/suggestion so far is shibari. Really guys, nothing else whatsoever?
>>1353051wow active weekend, as for suggestions maybe have her act as a chair or foot rest I can't really think of anything.can I get a thread description the best I can think of is "Tech-tree unlocked" .
>>1353802Actually that seems alright, really, as far as descriptions go.That chair thing doesnt seems very engaging? As in, not much to do with it. And I don't ... ah, what if she was licking his feet?Or just kneeling in front of him. He can rest his feet on her thighs and she can hold a plate or table for him with food and drink or act as his desk? Since we're in the furniture section now, it seems.
>>1353832In that stuff the engagement isn't fysical but mental, either getting off on the demeanment of being an object, the feeling of being restrained or from pleasing your partner more likely in Lyanns case.
>>1354806Ah, I was thinking in having them just go fishing, or maybe to a pic nic or something nice like that.She's his toy so she doesnt gets to complain, after all. If we need to give it a s/m spin... uhmmm... have you ever gone fishing? You know how sometimes the line gets caught on the rocks or the weeds? Could send her to unstuck it.You know how some people fish with trained birds? We'd fish with trained redheadOr have her pull up any fish to heavy for the rod.
>>1355656>Ah, I was thinking in having them just go fishing, or maybe to a pic nic or something nice like that.This is good as well, no need to make everything S&M related, just some cute fluff
>>1355656I think it would make a short but fun scene."Lyann, my line's stuck" - he says with a sigh"So it is.""Lyann, my line's stuck" "???""Lyann, my line is stuck" -he says while looking at her with a smile"EEEEH!? That too!?""Yup, you're my toy, right?""Fuuu.... Eldric you meanie."Something like that
How's this for that chair request?http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltykqrpY3F1r33bdlo1_400.jpgWell not exactly that but something like that?
>>1355778now that looks like it could be the best kind of fun
Well, it doesnt looks like a lot of care was placed on it beyond "oh it would be funny" though.I was thinking a glassteel tube so she could slide in, with a wooden "lid" acting as the cover and seat. Of course, with an opening.Well, noone has said they didn't like it, and I've always said to everyone that silence implies consent when it comes to opinions.
>>1357683I've been thinking about it and I don't like it much. Mostly that it's too much prep work for such a small payoff. It's like investing lots of time and effort into something we'll likely only do once as our attention is grabbed by something else.
>>1358581eh i think its a fun lab stool. Or it can be a recurring joke.. i think im gonna go with the recurring joke themeAnyway im closing the thread for the week
>>1351834Might be a little late, but both me and my heart got boners of that, so yeah. But it seemed a little repetitive, though I guess RL couples could be like that.
>>1360713Well, training is by neccessity, repetitive, isn't it? Its conditioning after all.Or you meant the chair idea? Because if im gonna make it into a joke by repetition, that's the joke?Anyway, I was thinking in a cutesy scene for next time.***New thread here>>1362927