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The hive hums with activity, the laboratory illuminated with the soft glow of bioluminescence. Elizabeth examines the stacks of instruments and test samples spread out across the table before her as workers scatter around the chamber running machines and diligently manipulating new experiments. She keeps her gaze fixed on a small accelerometer sat on the workbench, her mind giving off waves of mental static in her focus. After some time of great mental strain, the accelerometer flashes a quick number along its display, and then begins to shake, scooting across the table. Elizabeth quickly shouts out in excitement as the concert of thinkers in the ceiling above gather the data with excitement as the small instrument quickly flies from its place on the desk towards Elizabeth to her surprise. She ducks quickly as it traces above her head and shatters against the face of a nearby worker. The drone chitters in a mad panic, its legs twitching in momentary confusion as it rapidly spins in circles to assess the situation, eventually settling down to look back at Elizabeth as it wipes at its face with its graspers.

“I'm sorry!” She says quickly. “I was just trying to get a reading and- I didn't hit you in the eye did I?” She quickly moves closer to try to examine the worker as it begins to pluck the shattered accelerometer up off the floor and carries the pieces off with an annoyed hiss.

Elizabeth turns back to the lab, this time with more care and an outstretched hand, and slowly the empty drink mug left on the table lifts into the air, and quickly floats into her waiting hand.

"It seems far more potent than I was expecting." She says as she examines the mug, looking to where several small cracks had formed from the telekinetic force. "I think at this point it's more a matter of practice than research, however."

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>>1284708
For Mother
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Yay


Daily reminder.
>Raid OQ
>Read the locked memories of that thinker.
>Board a scav vessel for their FTL.
>Send a diplomacy team to earth.
>Build that new FTL prediction building.
>Take Reprive (I think that is the system that our mother made her last stand and it only has mining corvetts, it would be a great test for our raiding fleet.)
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>>1284708
You feel the notice of a Distant Mind
>Psionic research has received a small boost
>Slip drives have a 10% chance to alert you to their usage

>Current resource reserves
Nutrients: 41,293,270N
Metals: 41,618,339M
Credits: ₡602,226
Credits in Lyle’s account: ₡1,175,000

Active trade routes
>Leeland – Lanway: HMS Orphan, Captain John Spreckels
[FormOther brand Fusion Reactors]

>Formed fleets and orders
Citadel Hive Ship – [Awaiting orders]
Small Heavy Defense Fleet [Patrolling Leeland space]
25 Heavy Battle Fleet [Supporting Commonwealth Liberation]
5 Missile Ambush Fleet [Awaiting orders]
30 Light Fleets [Supporting Commonwealth Liberation]
20 Light Fleets [Awaiting orders]
10 Fast Assault Fleets [Awaiting orders]
10 Ambush Fleet
6 Carrier Battle groups

Clone upkeep/special projects and expenses
25 Human captives of the USV Hope – 750
[Gemini]
3 Taidaren Hybrids (105)
4 Human flash clone upkeep – 120
18 Human hybrid clone upkeep – 540
Specializations:
>Tech
>Engineer
>Brawler
[Hive space]
100 Human Hybrids – 3,000
Lyle Rogers – 57
Jackob Eisner – 56
Dillon Reager – 30
Clone/project upkeep – 3,908N

>Income
Metals: 2,950,500
Nutrients: 7,636,000
Net:

Total upkeep
Nutrient costs: 6,675,390

(Nutrient stat + structures) * 1k * dev score + modifiers = Nutrient income total
(Metal stat + structures) * dev score + modifiers = Metal income total
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Hive Territory
[G-426]
*Leeland (capital)
N 60+40
M 45
Development 50

Income:
4.886MN
162.5KM

Defensive structures
>Surface to Orbit Missile System: Uses long range missiles to attack enemy ships in the system (1KN, Additional costs per launch)
>Anti-orbital batteries: Directly attacks enemy ships in orbit (8KN)
Military structures
>Hangar facilities: Deploys atmospheric and orbital drones to intercept attackers, uses aerodynamic and fighter drone designs (4KN)
>Psionic Shroud: Conceals hive activity from psionic senses (1KN)
Industrial structures
>Docking Pylon: (2000) (100KN)
[Empty docks: 8000/8000]
Economic Structures
>Capillary Tower [under construction]
>Smart Mines active: Calculates development stat twice for metal income
>Algae Farm: +25N
>Film harvester dock: +15N
Asteroid mining base: 50KM per day added to nearest planet.

[M-662]
Raligha
N 90+20
M 10
Development 25

Income:
2.75MN
0M

Defensive structures
>Surface to Orbit Missile System (1KN)
>Anti-orbital batteries: 35/35 (8KNN)
Economic structures
>Bloodroot collectors: Pipes running from Bloodroot trees extract nutrient rich sap +20N
>Greystalk farms: [under construction]
>Greenwall pit: Genetically engineered plant efficiently recycles waste material, Extra N income x2
>Temple alter: A place for the Ralighan locals to worship and bring offerings to your hive, built in the likeness of your local fake queen, +500N per day

[M-323]
>Orbital docking pylon: Space for docking and construction of 4 sub capitals or 1 capital ship, (50N)
[Empty docks: 0/4]
>Mining corvette salvage operations +2,688,000M per day (+8000M per corvette)

[Farcast]
Derelict Sensor array

Glassed Hive world
N 0
M 100
D 10

Income:
0N
100KM

>Smart mine mantle excavation: Calculates development stat 3 times for metal income

Deep space waystation
>100 docking pylons (10KN)
[Empty docks 400/400]
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FUCK YES
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Finished Research

>Crystal neural jack implant
Your research into the small implants within the brains of the infected humans has revealed a number of interesting if minor discoveries regarding their construction and design, the most astounding of which is that it seems organic, or partially organic in nature. The structure of the implants themselves have appeared to fossilize upon death, likely in some manner of self destruct, and the internal components have entered a kind of rapid deterioration that has rendered your samples little more than shells filled with dust, however study during their deterioration revealed that they were composed of a rare carbon alloy latticed with a protein mesh and a phosphate material similar in composition to human bone. You suspect the implants were somehow grown within the hosts using the hosts' own biological functions, however the material itself has been greatly improved upon in its molecular architecture, giving it similar durability to your own lightweight armor composites. Study of the interior structure prior to full degradation revealed a complex fractal lattice of crystallized nerve cells formed into a kind of carbon based circuit board. While any data held on them were likely wiped the moment the hosts died, it promises some interesting application according to your quantum thinkers.

>Core Rejuvenation
By drilling powerful electromagnets deep within the planet's crust, a massive geoengineering project can be undertaken to rapidly rejuvenate the solid core of a barren world and force it to begin to spin. The spin of the now molten core creates a feedback loop that generates a planet wide magnetosphere, which in turn permits the formation of an atmosphere by blocking out the local solar wind, all while generating friction and heat to make the planet once more geologically active. The process must be maintained, and the drilling installations must remain active to monitor and maintain the effect as the world is still not stable, however most worlds can maintain the effect unaided for centuries.

>Psionic Telekinesis
By using a concentrated and highly adapted psionic signal emanating from a moderate or advanced relay and their equivalent cybernetics, it is now possible to alter the energy state of molecules at a distance, permitting the deliberate application of force remotely. The effect itself has an optimum range of 15 feet, however its efficiency seems to scale down exponentially as opposed to be entirely limited, and manipulating more distant objects is possible, but far more difficult. The effect can be used to target the user, offering a limited and rather inefficient method of movement in the form of levitation, although this requires tremendous concentration and prevents the use of other psionic abilities, but permits the user to adjust their momentum in zero gravity as well as effectively lift themselves into the air by the seat of their own pants, if slowly and with great effort.
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>>1284708
QD YOU'RE ALIVEEEE
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>>1284708
The end of all things has come, and so have I! Fuck year HQQ!
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IT'S HERE!!!!
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>Finished research.
HERE IT COMES! THE ORGASMS!
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>Elizabeth turns back to the lab, this time with more care and an outstretched hand, and slowly the empty drink mug left on the table lifts into the air, and quickly floats into her waiting hand.
TELEKINESIS ACHIEVED
THINKER POWERED RAIL-GUNS WHEN!?
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>>1284744
>Complex organ splicing
While altering the genetic structure of life comes naturally to a Queen, merging it with the less efficient and often flawed genetic structure is often far more difficult than building your own from scratch. To remedy this, you have found yourself ironically having to develop new, less efficient, and somewhat intentionally flawed genetic traits in order to properly merge with the inherently imperfect genetic foundation of non-hive life. The end result, however, is a net gain in performance by improving the overall synergy of non-hive life and any implanted hive-made biological implants or mutations, allowing implants and mutations to be produced from the subject's own genetic foundation and in a way that permits the alterations to more seamlessly integrate into the host body.

>Isolation fields
A simple application of known technology, photonic armor projectors are installed in ships and hive facilities to permit the rapid deployment of fields to stop the progress of attackers and assist in damage control, isolating contagions, momentarily halting decompression, and stifling fires and other potential dangers just long enough for a more measured response to solve the issue. While only a momentary fix, these fields can mean the difference between sustaining heavy damage, and suffering a chain reaction that destroys an entire ship.

>Smith dissection
While you have only a head to study, the contents of the titanium reinforced carbon nano-lattice skull is still rather fascinating. The brain itself, obviously, dominates the contents of the skull, and has clearly undergone a number of highly illegal alterations to the logic and reasoning centers, especially in areas responsible for the human's self preservation instinct and sense of fear, as well as the pleasure center and a number of high end cognitive enhancements that go far beyond what is legally or commercially available. In effect, the subject holds no concept of fear or sense of danger beyond what is likely a very cold and practical sense of self damage, while holding no greater feeling of joy than accomplishing its task. Its occipital lobe is entirely artificial, composed of enhanced augments linked to equally impressive multi-spectrum sensors including a multi-zoom lens in each eye and a number of thermal scanners set in the bridge of the nose within the artificial skin, and a small two way radio is infused into the inner ear linked directly into the areas of the brain in charge of human speech. The areas of the brain in charge of higher reasoning are altered with various but relatively minor implants that seem designed to control certain neural signals, while the various neural pathways composing the brain's memory are held within a matrix of microscopic fiber optics which impede your efforts to accurately draw data from the brain, however the matrix itself seems to offer a more long term survivability for data within than an organic brain.
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New Hive Feature Unlocked
Native Organ Adaptation – Clones and non-hive agents, when in a situation that would permit triggering a metamorphosis, can now grow cybernetics in addition to or instead of altering their clone type. If the subject has lost a limb or other component that typically does not naturally regrow, it can be replaced with a new natural limb or prosthetic. The process is unpleasant, giving the feeling of severe illness as the cybernetic forms within the body and pushes outward to the surface, and its capabilities will slowly develop over several days.

New Hive Feature Unlocked
Hardlight Interiors – Hive architecture is now capable of utilizing hardlight as both aesthetic enhancements and furniture to interior facilities, and as militarized defense systems to halt the progress, or prevent the escape of intruders within the hive. The fields projected by the hardlight emitters are not powerful, and are only capable of temporarily staving off a concerted effort to pass through with any suitable weapon system, but can serve as a moderate obstacle to enhance and already overwhelming defense, or stall until such a defense can be mounted. The projectors can create holograms of any shape or form, however they lack any weight behind them and cannot outright harm intruders by themselves.

New FTL technology unlocked

Rip Drive – The full rip drive is a potent support technology, capable of allowing ships without their own method of travel to traverse interstellar distances. In effect a kind of compact and portable hypergate, the technologies accomplish a similar result through different means. By utilizing what could only be described as a psionic drill, the ship fires a focused and intense multi-spectrum radiation beam to a specific point in space, using a mixture of finely tuned subatomic interactions and tachyonic physics to tear a hole in spacetime leading to the target destination. Navigation is accomplished in a similar manner as a Blink drive, however the range itself is limited to fifteen light years per jump for a one-sided jump, with accuracy and danger increasing exponentially with greater ranges. If another Rip drive equipped ship is at the location, the safe travel range can be doubled. The tear opened holds an accuracy of roughly a light hour but can be shortened to a light minute if guided by ships already at the destination, and exists long enough for a fleet of ships to pass through, its size slowly shrinking from its initial radius over time. The maximum size of the rift created is dependent on the ship using it, and is large enough in its initial size to provide passage for an object of equal size or smaller.
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>The drone chitters in a mad panic, its legs twitching in momentary confusion as it rapidly spins in circles to assess the situation,

Our children are to cute...
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New Ship Utility Unlocked

Containment fields – Using a network of hardlight projectors spread throughout the ship in strategic points, the ship is capable of isolating any given location nearly instantly in the event of damage or attack, quickly sealed depressurized hull sections, choking out fires, isolating explosions, and even impeding the movement of intruders. The ship gains the potential to survive otherwise catastrophic damage over a very short period, in some cases staving off the inevitable just long enough to return fire, or in less extreme cases reach a port for repairs. The ship temporarily ignores damage that would otherwise destroy it. The amount of time the ship can continue to function is based on the size of the ship, and the amount of damage sustained past its point of typical destruction. In addition, boarding actions performed against this ship (20N 40M per 100 meters)

New Research Available

Psionic Thermokinesis
slow/mildly dangerous
An even more finely tuned execution of known tachyonic physics, thermokinesis is the practice of altering the energy state of atoms, but instead of altering their velocity, it utilizes a less uniform alteration to increase or decrease atomic vibration, quickly increasing or decreasing the ambient temperature of the target. It may take some time for your thinkers to successfully accomplish this feat, however, without also igniting the laboratory.

Psionic Conduction
slow/mildly dangerous
While altering the physical nature of particles has become possible, using highly controlled tachyonic signals it may also be possible to use the projected psionic energy to subtly alter and transfer other forms of energy in a more direct process than kinetic force. Your thinkers believe it may be possible to use alternate sources of energy outside of the target and potentially use tachyonic signals in order to carry that energy to the target. The early experiments have already proven promising, however it may be some time before the thinkers are capable of producing results without causing spontaneous detonations within the laboratory.
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Cybernetic memory extraction
Fast
With the continued assistance of Theseus and his extensive mechanical research systems, you feel confident in your ability to extract at least partial memory fragments from the largely cybernetic brain of the killed Smith agent. It is too soon to determine if the data is of any use, but it could offer further clues regarding their origin and capabilities.

Memory Seed
Slow
By creating a miniaturized and less overtly useful memory crystal similar in overall function to the white crystals used to record thought by your elders, and modifying it into a neural implant, you believe it may be possible to create a kind of constantly updating backup memory for clones, agents, and even drones that would potentially hold its information after death. The memory seed would theoretically be capable of retaining the full memories of the host individual up to and including the very moment of death, and be able to preserve those memories long after the brain itself has physically deteriorated, a process that typically drastically limits the time frame in which memories can be gathered.

Current Research

>Psionic Spores
Slow
While normally the hive spores used to spread infrastructure are little more than genetically engineered nanomachines, replicating and performing their function alone until their built structure is complex enough to receive mental signals, your mixture of psionic research and advancements in spore related genetic programming has made the idea of a psionically sensitive spore seem not nearly as far fetched as it once did. With a mixture of distributed networking and complex cellular reconstruction methods, it could be possible to create a spore strain that would respond to mental signals.

>Advanced Psionic Imprinting
Slow
With the application of psionic imprinting you are able to influence and alter the state of matter using only focused and precise mental signals. Your thinkers believe this can be taken further, using more accurate signals and more precise manipulation methods to imprint more complex thoughts and ideas more quickly and easily, and at a greater range.
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>>1284765
>She quickly moves closer to try to examine the worker as it begins to pluck the shattered accelerometer up off the floor and carries the pieces off with an annoyed hiss.
I need a pouting drone drawn in an anime artstyle NOW!
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>>1284718
Why do we want to send a diplomacy team to earth?
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>Psionic Cloaking
Medium
A complex practice naturally accomplished by the Phantoms under the care of the Barren Queen, you have been instructed in the basics, and now all that is left is practice and application. In theory it is simple, using carefully woven mental signals to broadcast a sense of non-existence. While this process is most effective against being sensitive to tachyonic radiation, it can be used against virtually any organic being. A psionic race may find entire patches of planet voided from their minds like a mass-induced psychosis, while less attuned or mentally blind species find details of the cloaked unit impossible to remember or describe, or may simply not notice the unit unless it is alone and obvious in appearance. Simply turning around or standing among a small crowd is enough to become virtually invisible. Unfortunately, this invisibility comes at a cost, as it is omnidirectional, and any unit enveloped in such a shroud would be unable to mentally communicate with others, effectively cutting itself off from any hive network. This ability requires at least a moderate relay or implant to accomplish, although no drone would do so willingly and cut itself off from the Queen without a direct command to do so.

>Personal shielding
Slow
By further shrinking the emitters, your thinkers believe they may be able to eventually make them small enough to be equipped to the carapace of a drone, or to the surface of an armored suit. At this time it is mostly speculation and an eagerness to please mother beyond all reason, and you cannot be sure what the limitations may be, but the thinkers are sure they can do it.

>Shield dome
Slow
The opposite way of thinking as personal shielding, by scaling the shield emitters up further to a size that would be impossible to hold and power on a ship, your thinkers suspect they should be able to construct a defensive perimeter around a hive center protected by a powerful defensive shield. The thinkers that have proposed the idea seem to be certain in the failure of the other project, as they are of this one, and you have had to separate the quantum thinkers as they attempted to disprove each others’ theories more than develop their own.
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>Advanced Psionic Reading
Slow
With your new abilities growing, you continue to hone and develop more advanced methods of using your psionic network. Your thinkers believe that with more practice they should be able to delve deeper into the minds of non-hive life, digging past surface thoughts and emotions and into more detailed pieces of information without resorting to invasive neural interfaces.

>Atmospheric static generator
Medium (is done, but working on how it adjusts the Tower's cost in the new system)
By utilizing the natural friction of a sufficiently dense atmosphere against the surface of a capillary tower, the tower can be made to generate energy to feed itself and reduce its upkeep cost.

>Gravity thrusters
Slow
Similar in function to your Skid drive, the Gravity thrusters essentially surf along pre-existing gravity fields, increasing their performance when in close proximity to major sources of gravitational pull, be it a large celestial body, a star, a planet, an exceptionally large structure or group of structures, or the core of a gravity drive. While in deep space it becomes less effective, the law of universal gravitation means it never becomes totally useless, and when in close proximity to a powerful gravity source it should outperform most other thruster designs with ease.

Available research options

>Psionic Canon prototype
Very slow/Very dangerous
Detailed accounts of several experiments show the slow progress of Project Godsplitter. The canon itself is highly volatile, and even the smallest miscalculation often results in the destruction of the ship, as well as any nearby craft. It can only be equipped to a Hive ship's spinal mount, and requires a functional Void Shard as ammunition. At least a dozen testing sizes were atomized in testing the weapon, and in the end it appears The Gardener never quite perfected it.

>Add all new research
>Add [write in]
>Add Psionic Canon
>Other
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>>1284744
>Finished Research

muh bonner

>Crystal neural jack implant
The complexity in such device only makes me even more afraid of the Void Gods...
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>>1284781
To find out stuff about that robot chieftain and to snoop for void fuckery caused by the moon canon.
I want to make sure no earth human void cults are found by the Commonwealth/Union.
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>>1284789
>>Add all new research
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>>1284789
>Add all new research
There is no other choice
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Also vote to add containment fields to all our combat ships?
>Y
>N
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GAS THE SQUIDS
NUKE THE WHALES
STAB THE MONKEYS
TRUST NOTHING
THE VOID IS WATCHING
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>>1284759
>>1284759
>Psionic Telekinesis

I'm torn on the applications. Working best at short range means that it might be good in melee combat, but requiring a moderate or advanced relay limits it. Are there any heavy bruiser units that have relays already?

Using it to shove projectiles is also a short-range application (the shove happens at short range), but I don't know if it'll beat our standard railguns. Maybe it could be used as a boost to standard railguns, rather than a replacement.
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TODAY'S THE DAY
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>>1284816
Did you not read that it's great for zero-gravity too or pushing away enemies trying to swarm us? Thinking it's only good for melee show how small minded you are.
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>>1284771
>It may take some time for your thinkers to successfully accomplish this feat, however, without also igniting the laboratory.
>however it may be some time before the thinkers are capable of producing results without causing spontaneous detonations within the laboratory.

>mildly dangerous
Goddammit.
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>>1284789
>Add all new research
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>>1284789
>Add all new research.
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>>1284829
no risk no reward
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>>1284789
>Add all new research
>Set up safety precautions for Psionic Thermokinesis and Psionic Conduction.
Like maybe having fire suppression armed and ready at all times, and having the Thinkers' temperature and energy level monitored at all times as a warning to spontaneous combustion/explosion.
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Does our Psionic tech allow us to fuck with those smith augments?
Will the hive be the ones to teach smiths fear again?
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>>1284789
>Add all new research
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>>1284829
The current system would mean we'd have to deal with the consequences and there would be no bonuses to dealing with it outside of what equipment we have. I hope you are ready for a lot of fire and explosion.
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>>1284828
It's also good for messing up someones movement and stance even at far distances.
We shall Telekinesis trip our enemies.
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>>1284771
>In addition, boarding actions performed against this ship (20N 40M per 100 meters)

Nani?!
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>>1284816
ZOANTHROPE NOW
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>>1284838
We could even use those cooling lasers that we never realy used.
Also when can we expect the giant bug mechs with floating plasma cannons
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>>1284760
>Isolation fields
>Containment fields
>Hardlight Interiors

So beautifull...
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>>1284857
IT slows down the time for a enemy take or damage a ship with it.
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>>1284865
Anon we use those lasers all the time the problem is they are essentially lab equipment, they aren't actually useful for putting out a fire.
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>Psionic Spores

I know a planet with caves filled with scav that would be the perfect test ground for this thing...
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>>1284890
To bad it isn't unlocked yet.
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>>1284883
I ment more for their ability to neutralize energy which would be useful against fire buy forceing it out of the plasma state.
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TIME FOR ADOPTION
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>>1284789
>Add: Psionic Thermokinesis, Psionic Conduction and Cybernetic memory extraction
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>>1284892
In due time anon... in due time.Besides if we use the spores we might scare the living shit of our allies.
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>>1284859
Works for me!

The question is how much force a unit devoted to psionic powers could wield. It'd probably require prototyping a new drone built around it.

There are various mind-altering psionic powers it could use too. Something that can cause panic in any non-Hive life nearby could be a great support to cracking ground defenses.
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>>1284893
You have no idea what cooling lasers are do you? You'd be better off using fire extinguishers then using the cooling lasers.
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>>1284892
I think we should coat the planet with spores anyway and park a cloaked pod in orbit. It costs us nothing and will slow whatever they're doing down there, also we haven't got to use the creep in combat much yet. It'll be fun.
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>>1284904
The hive version of battle meditation we are basically making jedi with this should we tell the curious humans that we get our power from sacred algae in our blood
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>>1284910
We don't even own that planet besides less is more, the less we now the more we have to impress them with later.
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>>1284917
*the less we use now
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>>1284904
Can we make a drone with multiple brains/relays? That might work and i remember our thinkers can be plugged into drones so they can be carried around/serve as commanders.
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>>1284904
Too be honest I think the most practical use I can think of it is adding a nausea field and invisibility, and just using it to create chaos on the battlefield and disrupt troop formations or HQ stations.
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>>1284933
>That might work and i remember our thinkers can be plugged into drones so they can be carried around/serve as commanders.
Why am I surrounded by such ignorance? Thinker plug into infrastructure and ships not drones.
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>>1284933
I don't know if packing additional brains/relays into one drone will be the way to go, compared to having more of the drones with one well-developed psionic-focused brain/relay combo each.

It'd sure be amusing to have a big brain-bug mass that has to be ported around by other drones though.

>>1284949
Is being pointlessly conceited your meme, or something? It accomplishes nothing.

>>1284941
You might be right there. The mind-reading and mind-altering effects seem easier than brute force, at least so far. Weaponizing it is the next step.
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>>1284949
Our infestructure and ship out drones and so what masters of biology we our we some how cant do something because were not supposed to?
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>Add all new research

The heavy warrior stomps its feet, digging its claws into a sturdy stance as its blades unsheath and its mandibles chitter. It lunges forward, crushing the ground beneath its blades as Lyle rolls to the side and quickly punches the leg joint along its side with a loud crack but no visible damage. The warrior's blades snap forward, slicing through the air with a wiping crack as Jackob sidesteps the blade by half an inch and sends his arms streatching outwards for the drone's head, pulling him up into the air as he brings his knee firmly between the drone's four eyes as he rolls over and onto its back, quickly leaping again as its tail swipes at the air, clawing at the drone's own back. Jackob catches himself on the ceiling of the small arena with his outstretched arm, reeling himself up as Lyle quickly jabs at its leg joints with his blades, the hot metal glancing off the heavy armor plating with a fountain of sparks and chipped off chitin.

"So this is your idea of a workout?" Jackob says from the ceiling, Lyle only shouts some incomprehensible curse as he leaps into the air to land a firm kick on the drone's side, and its tail quickly grips him and flips him over to the warrior's other side, pounding him into the ground before it tosses him to a wall, cracking the reinforced bone of the hive wall in the process. He quickly kicks at the air to flip himself back onto his feet as the warrior lunges towards him.

Jackob kicks off from the ceiling and wraps his arm arround the drone's tail as it attempts to whip him away, flipping over and onto its back as he grips its head and digs his fingers into the softer flexible neck of its carapace, yanking the head back and bring the drone off balance as it plants its tail in the ground and takes several steps back. Lyle rushes forward, his arms pulsing with their sledges as he punches the drone's front legs again with another pair of loud crunches, and the drone spins itself, its tail whipping into his side and sending him across the room.

The door flexes open as Dillon walks in in time for Lyle to slide into the wall, his arms in front as he breaks his speed while leaving two large cratered pockmarks in the hive wall and dives back at the drone.

"What in god's name are you two doing?" He shouts as he drops his data pad and instinctively pulls his weapon at the ready.

"No, wait!" Lyle says as he pushes against the drone's outstretched mandibles as it holds him in the air, shaking from side to side. "This is natural weapons only, no guns." He fires his sledge against the mandible and it snaps, sending him rolling to the floor as he evades the snap of a blade that shaves off a patch of his hair as the drone's tail wraps around Jackob and pins him to the ground, its blade fighting to reach its mark in Jackob's grip.

cont.
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>>1284967
Oh god.
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>>1284908
The process of using lasers to strip energy off molecules yes fire extinguishers are better at putting out fires but not so good at stopping explosions or the rapid changing of a matters state.
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>>1284956
Well all we need is a drone that can carry an extra relay or two, that way one relay does the nausea field, the other uses telekinesis to assist combat and the drone itself does whatever.
Can we implant our parasites on our own drones? I recall QD said we can with OQ drones to hijack them.
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>>1284967
>trying to plug thinker into combat drones without hampering the combat drones is possible
A thinker is a lot bigger than you think anon. As matter-of-fact thinkers are designed not for this because it's retarded to do this when you're psychic.
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>>1285006
But we can give drones thinker brains.
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>>1284890
You know they don't have a civilian population and they all have space suits or similar on. Can't trust them to breathe in any bio weapons.
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>>1284996
I'm not sure what benefit parasiting our drones gives. They're already Hive biology, and anything we put in a parasite could be built right into the drone.

Is it something to do with relays? I might be out of date on the crunch of how they work.
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>>1285013
No we can't, we can have a tinker attach itself to drone but replacing a warrior's normal brain with a thinker's is impossible.
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>>1285018
The spores are for spreading our creep to hamper their operations physically, we're not trying to give them aids.
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>>1285030
What. No. We can do that already, you don't need the spores to be psionic to grow hive infrastructure from them. So that would have nothing to do with psionic spores.
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>>1285027
>I'm not sure what benefit parasiting our drones gives. They're already Hive biology, and anything we put in a parasite could be built right into the drone.
It's to give the drone the extra brains needed to make it a Zoanthrope but i guess we can just make organs that replicate that function if QD allows it.
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>>1284993
>strips energy
Not quite. You actually shoot photon (energy) in such a precise manner at an object that the object absorbs the photon then radiates a second photon with the energy of the first photon and some of the energy of the energy of the object.
Do you see where it could go horribly wrong?
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>>1285027
We could use them as food storage for long missions away from the hive? Or to carry extra ammo or medical supplies or even have small egglayers to make flys on the fly for scouting? Who knows
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>>1285039
You mean you want to give the drone a "quantum brain" how new are you anon?
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>>1284760
>a number of high end cognitive enhancements that go far beyond what is legally or commercially available.

So, you'd say, better than the augments that Nathan Decker has right now?

Of course we have no need of putting cyber implants in the human brain to make them smarter, the parasite wifi to the Thinker network is already way better than any of those could be, right.
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>>1285045
Actually it could be good for independent agent like ones using psionic cloaking.
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>>1284978
"Well cut it the fuck out, you just got a clean bill of health and the first thing you do is challenge a living tank to a fight?" Dillon shouts, still holding his weapon but pointing it to the floor. Lyle slices at the legs as he rolls beneath the drone's squat stance, quickly leaping from spot to spot as it brings its clawed feet stomping down on him as he swipes his blades in passing at the underside of the legs, the drone's blades snapping at him whenever it can while Jackob wrestles with the tail's snapping outstretched blade as it stabs at the ground on either side of him as he rolls and ducks out of its way, until the flat of the tail coils itself and slams on top of him, dragging him up and into the air as he arcs over the fight and into a wall. He cups the back of his head in mild discomfort.

"Yea, maybe we should pick this up later." Jackob says as he feels the bruise growing along his head. Lyle gances over to the two of them in time to miss the clawed foot of the warrior as it kicks him out from under the warrior's stance, and a swinging tail pins him to the wall. He curses silently as the drone halts at his mental signal.

"Fine, but I was winning until you started chatting like that dammit!" He says. The warrior grumbles as it moves away, a wall flexing open to permit its tremendous girth to pass unhindered into a vertical transport passage. Lyle simple gets back to his feet, stretching his arms with faint snapping noises. "We're out of beer, out of cigars, not sure what you expect me to do, pick up knitting?"

"I wish you'd give that a try a long time ago." Dillon says with a sigh.

"Liar." Jackob replies. "You know life would be too boring without him starting firefights every few weeks." Dillon only grumbles in reply, holstering his weapon and picking up his data pad.

"Can we just figure out what we're going to do? We can't just stay in this damn hive all our lives."

>Allow them to travel freely
>Send them on a new mission (write in)
>Other (write in)
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>>1285044
No, i want to give the drone extra individual brains/relays which will all work together to make a drone capable of using psionic powers as it's major function. I once read QD comparing our ships to a kind of jellyfish that is made up of individual organisms that work together, i want to do the same for a psionic based drone that can multitask with it's powers.
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>>1285053
>Other
How would you feel learning about the recent events that happened in Nowhere and the Union?
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>>1285053
>>Allow them to travel freely
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>>1285053
How about checking out the Valen planet where the Union's kill team is being held. The sooner we get our other spy back into the union with fewer strings attached the better. It should be less of them busting in there, and more of them making an opening for them to escape y themselves.
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>>1285053
We can offer to induce the drugs effects they want or if there like thebtwins offer to make the drugs they want other than that
>Allow them to travel freely
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>>1285053
>Send them on a new mission
Send them to help break the sieges on that commonwealth world
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>>1285053
>>Send them on a new mission (write in)
Can you guys... go undercover on Space Florida, aka Talgo? This human church and reverend seems. Suspiciously successful.
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>>1285070
This is also a good idea
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>>1285053
>Other
Give them a brief rundown of what happened in Nowhere, that the Black Queen (cursed be her name) is attacking human space and tell them that the Hive has introduced itself to the Union.

I don't think they know yet.

Other than, that,
>Allow them to travel freely
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>>1285075
Infiltration missions and disable defenses to allow our swarms to charge in and stuff

Or have them sneak on a scav ship if we get an opening to do so
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>>1285053
Do we need heavy hitters for anything atm?

>>1285066
We can tell them, sure, but that going to make them more restless, not less.

>>1285077
>Lyle
>undercover
pick one.
we should take a look over there, but Lyle isn't exactly... subtle.
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>>1285053
>Other (write in)
Speaker walks in and says
"Why don't you guys just use the hologram training instead of risking injury training with a live warrior?"
"Also big shit happened at nowhere."
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>>1285070
>How about checking out the Valen planet where the Union's kill team is being held.
They literally just left Aral anon. It's their fault those agents are in Valen claws in the first place.

I mean I GUESS we could get them to 'rescue' Anderson and Decker for us, we did still want to copy Anderson's brain expertise.

But we already had Theseus infect the Valen's systems there, so we already have a potential breakout plan cooking.

>>1285075
Mate that has to be a drones-only mission, so the hive gets all credit in the Commonwealth's eyes.
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>>1285053
>>1285070

Seconding, also we don't want to give the Valen any more time examining them than possible, the reason the parasites are so powerful is that nobody knows about them
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>>1285053
>Allow them to travel freely

Also seconding showing them the latest in cosmic horror.
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>>1285090
>>Lyle

Jackob and Dillon ARE subtle though.

And Lyle is only unsubtle once the bullets start flying. He can be kept indoors until then, or sent on an Aral mission instead.
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>All these different votes.
"Choose your mission, agent Lyle."
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>>1285078
>>1285070
Nope. Bad idea. You guys do realize there is no point to that since the Valen will be trying to hunt down Lyle and not to mention the the crew is currently more useful under the Valen than on our planet.
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>>1285074
Actually I just remembered that thiers a frozen hive on path mabe we could offer them a job to go try and make contact with it see if its real or not
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>>1285113
>path
Reread that thread anon. It's Djin from the Koenig system.
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>>1285113
THIS! We have to find out what that hive on Djin is.
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>>1285053
>>Send them on a new mission (write in)
Can you guys break into university labs on Mentan to get the Thinkers more topics to research and copy?
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>>1285110
I take back my vote. I say we give them the rundown of current events. After that we can give them a list of mission.s If they want to take a break of world(which since they are now among the most wonted people in the union(though only the high ups know)) things will get eventful anyway.
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>>1285053
> let them travel freely.
I wanna see how fast he can burn through his cash on hookers and blow.
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>>1285105
This works, honestly. We don't have anything pressing, so we could just offer a bounty board of sorts, let them take what they want.
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>>1285128
I agree with this but add a note saying investigating Djin is a priority.
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>>1285113
>>1285119
Spelunking underwater and digging through ice is one of the least useful applications of Lyle's and Jackob's expertise. They aren't space archaeologists.

It'd also be hella boring for them, digging through a dead hive.
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Come to think of it there will soon be the spore thing happening on Path. Wouldn't it be a good thing to inform them about that.
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>>1285053
>Put them in contact with Unity
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>>1285138
Djin is currently a military research base i believe, so yes Lyle and crew will be needed.
Their job would be escorting some drones and thinkers into the underground caves, or to go and attack the military for secrets, maybe both.
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>>1285138
Considering the fact that the union found it and that were priority number one I think the extent of the operations there would be higher than you'd think
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>>1285148
>Djin is currently a military research base i believe,
You believe wrongly. That's Darwin.

We are about to conquer both planets anyway, either by humans surrendering them or by force, so it's moot anyway.
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>>1285053
We could also let them go to a different valen trade port to buy personal supplie (Booze, Cigars etc ) and find out what news is spreading in the underground
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>>1285158
Yeah we got a bunch of jobs they could do we could just roll a dice and see what one they want
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>>1285134
extending, Lyle seems like the type to be unhappy if he doesn't have something to work towards. We could assign values to "bounties" as hive credits or something, let them buy access to fancy toys or other stuff. Seems like it might let him feel like he's doing useful work.
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>>1285053
>Allow them to travel freely
Plus backing
>>1285105
>>1285134
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>>1285148
Actually when the Path incident happens we could just straight up demand they halt all of these excavation and archeological projects and have them turn them over all of the sites due to their incompentence.
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>>1285155
Oh your right.
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>>1285158
Better, we could send Coil/a clone thereof to find out how to smuggle himself back to the Ceph homeworld.

Some Valen know how to reach it. We really gotta find out how.
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>>1285053
>Have them investigate potential ancient activity on Djin
>Have them assist in rescuing the Cortez crew over Aral
>Send them back to Union space (write in)
>Other (write in)
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>>1285162
So just them choose then?

And are we paying them and including a bonus for a job well done? We are making money of our generator route right?
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>>1285170
But the ceph homeworld is currently ruled by the void gods, that kind of infiltration mission is better done after we have made several plans in case of void fuckery.
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>>1285163
We're making credits with our FormOther venture though. We don't need to give him monopoly money.
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>>1285174
>Have them assist in rescuing the Cortez crew over Aral
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>>1285174
>Have them investigate potential ancient activity on Djin
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>>1285174
>Have them investigate potential ancient activity on Djin
>Other (write in)
Have them pick, djin is priority though.
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Lyle and Friends are best used for missions on urban worlds. Diddling around with alien artifacts is for our drones and to be remotely monitored by Elizabeth.
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>>1285174
>Other (write in)
Inform them of the potential options then let them choose.
They're free to leave too, if they want.
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>>1285174
>other
Tell the news across space (including Nowhere, Hive diplomacy with the Union, Scavenger invasion of Commonwealth, and the soon to be Spore incident on path) and let them choose how they want to help the hive.
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>>1285174
>>Send them back to Union space (write in)
Investigate the Unicyclist Church?

Or we can reward Lyle with a vacation to the anarchist waterworld, Arcadia.

>>1285184
Uh won't the Union be suspicious that they have a mole that we send Lyle to Djin right after they start dissecting a drone from Djin? They know he works for us by now.
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>>1285189
Seconding the giving them space news idea.
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>>1285174
>Have them investigate potential ancient activity on Djin
since these guys are kinda responsible for the cortez crew's problems it would probably be better for us to make some clones and have them go save their asses.
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>>1285190
Ah shit that's true.
But i really want to investigate that Djin world.
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>>1285190
Well they are trying to defrost an intact drone

So declare psychic bullshit
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>>1285174
Actually could we have them go poaching lifeform for hive upgrades?
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>>1285174
>Have them assist in rescuing the Cortez crew over Aral
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>>1285190
They also dont understand how we communicate they'll probably think that some drones on Djin woke up and sent a distress signal and we can compound this misunderstanding if we want
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>>1285189
Supporting this, add it to my vote.
>>1285199
We did say we found nowhere because "We heard screaming" so that might work.
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>>1285198
THEY ARE ABOUT HAVE THEIR RESEARCH EATEN BY THE BQ SPORES. WE'RE GETTING NO MATTER WHAT.
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>>1285179
It's not an infiltration mission. It's a knowledge gathering mission for a FUTURE infilitration.

We aren't gonna act on the knowledge until we have such contingencies obviously. But we really need to already have that knowledge, the instant other pieces are in place. We have no idea how fast the clock is ticking before the Ceph get enough Canderon to reproduce the Tartarus reactor.
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>>1285200
>We meet Lyle because he was poaching our drones for the union.
>Now we're going to have him poach lifeforms for us.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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>>1285189
supporting
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>>1285180
I figured it would be closer to "store credit", to give them some shiny toy to work towards that they couldn't buy otherwise. Plus, it would keep them taking a boatload of credits from someone else and buying hive-exclusive stuff for them, though that's more of a guard against anyone else we offer jobs to than our current group.

But, "hive credits" would be another set of numbers to crunch. I dunno.

TL;DR: it would be easier to control access to our fancy toys if we use our own currency.
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>>1285200
There's whatever world the Carnotar came from. That sounds promising.

We still have YET to get any huronese razor trout even though we have a hidden underwater hive on Huron itself
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>>1285214
Nether we will click in a mournful manner
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>>1285212
>It's not an infiltration mission. It's a knowledge gathering mission for a FUTURE infilitration.
But what if the void gods somehow detect coil and his new allegiance and do void fuckery? Im just very worried about such actions.
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>>1285189
Nay. We are not spoiling the surprise for the sporesplosion. And we aren't spreading the nigh Lovecraftian knowledge about Nowhere.

And I doubt what good that other stuff would do to know.
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>>1285174
>>Have them assist in rescuing the Cortez crew over Aral
This is going to confuse the dickens out of the Union
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>>1285189
Backing.

>>1285200
Could be a nice to make an option for them. Pay out a bounty for new specimens, the sort.
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>>1285227
What are you on about. They can't do shit without a crystal nearby.

If they could act on Coil at a distance, they could do it right now, in our hive, regardless. He's in no more danger of 'corruption' among the Valen than he is here.
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>>1285241
>What are you on about. They can't do shit without a crystal nearby.
The ceph homeworld has a void crystal forest/tower i believe, that's why i'm worried about coil being detected when he gets there.
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>>1285174
Send them on a mission to Nowhere, we still need living lithovore samples.
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>>1285231
>Nay. We are not spoiling the surprise for the sporesplosion. And we aren't spreading the nigh Lovecraftian knowledge about Nowhere.
There's nothing but advatages in telling them.
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>>1285250
Which is only on one part of the planet. The sacred spire.

It's a big planet obviously. He has to stick to the dark underbelly of heretics and criminals.
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>>1285180
But anon don't you want to start giveing our kids chucky cheese tokens so they can buy fabulous prizes from mothers toy box
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Also reminder most of the reason the Union is expanding into the Expanse is to get alien tech.
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>>1285255
They arnt psionicaly gifted(and we dont intend to make them),so as long as they dont get religious or mystically inclined, they wont get swayed by the crystals unless they are nose deep in them, in which case their brains should explode from incompatibility.
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>>1285273
God dammit they're just like scavs.
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>>1285278
Void found a workaround by using biotech it looks like

So humans around void shards will start developing those crystal neural jacks >>1284744
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>>1285281
Wait didn't we also go grave robbing?
>We're the scavs.
>Everyone is scavs.
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>>1285297
The difference here is the scavengers make the scavenge.
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>>1285297
So does that mean we can finally get that easily affordable and comfortable seating?
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So it looks like we don't have a consensus.

Do we want to just tell them what's been going on and see if they have any hot ideas?
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All i want is to see OQ's creep create havoc in the Tokyo planet.
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>>1285273
I know Djinn the frozen Cavebug and I think Darwin was the world they kept finding the Skyll artifacts on that they shoved into Yune and Lee's skulls for the Psionic tech
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>>1285340
Seems for the best
We just have nothing really needed for them to do right now
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>>1285340
I just thing is a bad idea telling Dillon about the possible bio-harzard danger in New Tokyo on acount of OQ's spores. There was a thinker oozing some green blood but i don't thing it was one of her's thinker.
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>>1285340
Im game. They probably know where they are best suited, even if its not the most important place.
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>>1285353
It's not that we don't have anything, it's more that there's nothing super vital.
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>>1285360
>There was a thinker oozing some green blood but i don't thing it was one of her's thinker.
It was, the cavebug is possibly the only non OQ drone there.
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>>1285174
"Well what did you have in mind?" Lyle says flatly. Dillon looks through various news articles skimmed from Union space.

"Well, I dunno. There's a lot of shit going down right now it looks like. The Hive has made official contact with the Union, and it looks like they're damn near occupying the place." Dillon says as he holds out his datapad, showing the images of the massive hive fleet hovering in the skies over New Prescott and a collage of a dozen news sites with zoomed in images of Lee standing beside your embassador drone on the landing pad.

"Well hot damn, he's going up in the world." Jackob says with amusement. "Nothing we can do about any of that though, even if you were still a spook, and you're not. You got fired, remember? For closing up that illegal black site that turned out to be a pet project of the secretary."

"Yea, I remember." Dillon replies. "It looks like there was a fight over Path between hives. I've got some basic intel reports one of those little chirpy ones gave me."

"You mean those speaker?" Lyle asks. Dillon nods.

"Yea, turns out they're getting more active all over the place and are starting to make demands to Parliament."

"What kind of demands?" Jackob asks. Dillon shrugs.

"Hard to say. The speaker I talked to about it just said something about regaining historic territory in the Expanse, so my guess is all those relics the Union's digging up out there belong to the bugs, and it's pissing them off."

"Makes sense," Jackob says. "I'd get pissed too if someone started digging up grandma, but again, you got fired, you don't work for the Union anymore."

"We're all technically traitors now." Lyle says as he polishes his arm blades. "Especially after we shot down a Union ship and you guys killed that tin-headed mother fucker."

>Offer additional information (write in)
>Other
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>>1285360
I meant telling them:
*union and commonweath are at war
*commonweath being attacked by scavs
*union unsealing bad stuff at nowhere (don't need to give specifics here, but make them understand it was bad)
*hive now has an embassy in the union
*hive is demanding the expanse from the union
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>>1285373
>Offer additional information
Clusterfuck at nowhere and operations in commonwealth space
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>>1285340
Absolutely not, Telling the union anything will just give them material to use against us. Even if they decide not to go after us, it's only a matter of time before someone gets curious enough to tear a hole into subs pace to try an learn about THAT WHICH CANNOT BE NAMED.
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>>1285373
>Other
Put them in contact with Unity, maybe he has something a bit more suitable for them

>>1285384
Seconding
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>>1285383
This, just tell them nowhere had a catastrophic and now shit has escalated.
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>>1285373
What happened at nowhere and our sleeper agent(s) getting captured by the Valen
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>>1285373
>>Offer additional information (write in)
anything they want to know really, these guys are our friends and 2 out of 3 of them are literally incapable of betraying us.

>>1285383
this is at least a good start.
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>>1285373
>Offer additional information (write in)
>"The Unions blundering gained the attention of a species that nearly wiped out the hive's race, twice. We are less than amused, and have a sudden need for additional resources."
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>>1285387
I'm not talking about the union, I'm talking about these humans here.

At any rate, we should at least tell them that the black queen is attacking human space and that there isn't really anything for them to do that can't be handled by drones... Do they WANT work? Or we can just let them go freely.
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>>1285371
>it was the OQ's thinker

i know i shouldn't be happy about this...but i'm.
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>>1285373
>>Other
Just.... do that 'travel freely' thing from earlier for a while.
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>>1285411
>OQ's drones are the ones being dissected instead of ours.
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>>1285384
Explain that what happened there caused us to go to red alert and how the void gods are now paying more attention to everyone in the sector now

So no, it isn't just cause we want the union to stop digging up stuff but that they messed with something that caused a lot of problems
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>>1285384
This and that you can go where you like just be fucking careful.
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>>1285373
>"We're all technically traitors now." Lyle says as he polishes his arm blades. "Especially after we shot down a Union ship and you guys killed that tin-headed mother fucker."
Could he be a traitor to the Union if he was never apart of it? Not sure if he ever expatriated to the Union from the Commonwealth after he escaped prison
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>>1285383
also should we give them the basics on the black queen so if they see any of her ships or troops to wherever they decide to fuck off to they can let us know so we can act on it?
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>>1285425
"The union basically started an enslavement/extinction event."
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>>1285407
>We are less than amused, and have a sudden need for additional resources."
This should be emphasized. The expanse is pretty much the only safe space to get resources from so we can fight Black Queen depsite her 40,000 year head start
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>>1285424
Add the drone from another hive possibly going beserk in the facility. This cluster fuck will be amusing.
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Think we will need sock puppets to explain this level of batshit insanity?

Cause they were used to living in a cyberpunk setting but now are entering cosmic horror
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>>1285444
I was thinking about that, and it would be strange for a thinkerless drone to do anything but be comatose. Drones have no initiative, they go comatose without instructions from a thinker or a queen.
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>>1285444
Its a good thing there prepared for the inevitable cluster fuck
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>>1285444
Wait, it's alive? I thought the frozen Cavebug was damaged
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>>1285444
Everything Hive in that lab is dead anon.
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>>1285373
>Offer additional information (write in)

Basicaly this:
>>1285383
>>1285407
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>>1285465
Oh yeah spore only work with a psy network...oh well next time.

>>1285460
It's was slowly unfreezing. I don't know if it's alive.

>>1285459
Like they were prepared last time?
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>>1285482
Yeah the guy in charge of this operation was the guy in charge of the last one he said he'd torch the place if they started twitching or something along those lines
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>>1285482
Anon the Black queen spores don't need a network to work, all they need is the host bug/ship dead and resources.
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>>1285500
Let's hope it will be enough then.
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>>1285500
He wasn't in charge of the last one, he survived and learn't a lesson there though and now will no longer tolerate any shit from the mad docs
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>>1285508
Really? I though they needed some kind of activation switch...But i guess as soon as a strange bio-mass start to appear on the lab the guy in charge will torch it.
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>>1285444
>Ring Ring.
>"Hello speaker speaking."
>"HOW DO WE KILL IT?"
>"Who is this speaker speaking to?"
>"IT'S GILLIAM NOW HELP US!"
>"Oh hello human thinker Gilliam, how nice of you to call this speaker. What is the emergency?"
>"THE CAVEBUG WOKE UP AND IS GOING ON A RAMPAGE! HOW DO WE STOP IT?"
>"Did you try to lock it in a room?"
>"YES, IT CHEWED THROUGH THE DOOR!"
>"Did you try shooting it in the head?"
>YES! SOME GUARDS TOOK DOWN 2 OF IT'S LEGS AND STILL DIED AND VANCE WENT IN WITH A PLASMA SHOTGUN AND MANAGED TO DESTROY HALF OF IT'S HEAD! BUT IT'S STILL ALIVE AND KILLING PEOPLE!
>"This speaker will have to call you back"
>"NO WAI"-click
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>>1285535
kek
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>>1285535
I should have shortened that 9nth sentence to
>"Did you try shooting it"
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>>1285535
To be honest I kinda want them to try and talk to us about hive biology so we can get in to a philosophical art discussion about how the OQ's drones lungs are positioned in away that represents anger or depression
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>>1285535
>"Hello this is Speaker"
*Random human voice in the background*
>"OMG IT'S ALL OVER THE WALLS!"
>"May this speaker ask. Who is this?"
>" It's Gilliam!! After it died a massive black mass started to cover all the walls!! We try burn it but it grow to fast..."
*Random human voice*
> "OMG IT'S GROWING ALL OVER JESSICA! IT'S EATING HER!!*
> This speaker need to get back to you later.
>" NO WAI-!"
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>>1285582
that's gay
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>>1285582
Funnily enough i can see the hive leaving this kind of signature on their genetic estruture. Like a artist signing his paintings.
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>>1285582
>"You see, the traitor queen's drone's lungs are put there because every drone has been abused and yelled at since they were born and they wish for the abuse to end, which is why they're in such an inefficient spot, they wish to suffocate to death."
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>>1285587
>>1285535
3/10
Apply yourself.
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>>1285582
Pfft. That's perfect.
Then we can start critiquing her design choices.

>only one heart? Hive is ashamed to be the same species, this is terrible
>why would you put an acid sack there
>these spikes are so tacky
>she still uses chitin slugs, how quaint
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>>1285610
Whats wrong with it? I would enjoy criticism from a master such as yourself.
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Your speaker skitters in carrying a number of freshly woven towels from the hive's manufacturing facilities and a number of chitinous containers of water as it chirps out with obvious glee.

"Not traitors, great help to the Hive!" Your drone shuffles across the room as Jackob and Lyle take the water bottles and towels as it continues its chirping. "Also, not just Union, hive agents as well."

"What do you mean?" Dillon says quickly. The speaker rubs its claws together with glee at being asked for elaboration.

"The Union ship held Hive agents, sleeper agents you would call them, yes! They do things for Mother without knowing they do!" All crew survived. They are now held by Valen gate builders."

"That's not good at all." Dillon says. "They have nasty ways to get people to talk." Lyle stretches his neck and scratches at some distantly remembered pain along the base of his skull.

"The Hive's tech is better." Lyle says simply. "After comparing the two, without a doubt." Dillon shoots him a quick glare.

"Right, well what happens when they find those little mind control parasites, then?" Your speaker chitters for a moment in confusion. "Yea, that's what I thought. Valen are paranoid sonsabitches, the lot of them. Though I bet they'd be willing to hand those poor bastards over to you if you play your cards right. It wouldn't surprise me if the Valen just tell the Union to fuck off away from their gates and claim they are extraditing the prisoners to the Hive. I doubt there's much they wouldn't do in order to keep their gate up and under their control."

Dillon continues to examine the various news articles. Images of a Commonwealth fleet over Mars cover the front page of most of the more recent news articles, as well as a large, stylistically looking blur covered in question marks with the title "Much ado about Nowhere, coverup or communications failure?"

cont.

>>1285535
For some reason I read the speaker's lines in the voice of Fwiffo the Spathi from Star Control 2. Not sure why.
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>>1285621
>"The Hive's tech is better." Lyle says simply. "After comparing the two, without a doubt." Dillon shoots him a quick glare.

Ooooh....our sweet children.
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>>1285621
Well good thing we arranged a weakpoint for Theseus to enter then
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>>1285640
i think the hacker we gave a symbiont managed to influence the Valen's machine. Also correct Dillon they aren't parasites, they are symbionts.
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>>1285621
Of course we're kind of demanding Aral from the Union... and that gate in orbit is very tasty looking.
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>>1285652
Yeah, the hacker managed to set up a weakpoint in there network

But we didnt managed to capitalize as that situation became secondary as other major events happened
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>>1285657
Pretty sure the Valen wont let us have it. They arnt known as space-jews for nothing.
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>>1285652
Yeah uh. Did we even unlock any new expertise from Decker's brain? He seemed more proficient than the criminal hacker we originally copied to create the Tech specialization. https://ask.fm/QuestDrone/answers/130526788901
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>>1285671
All we need is the Valen who makes the gates genius, as long as the is incomplete that Valen will be there.
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>>1285671
How do you defeat space jew? You turn youself into a space jew.
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>>1285691
Or the jew jews himself.
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>>1285691
No, pure raw military power

So go full barbarian on their asses and raid and steal what ya want
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>>1285691
No, you just need a space oven.
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>>1285671
Isn't their gate tech becoming obsolete since there are few valen who know how it even works? They're probably getting desperate for a partner to help then in ther research so all we need is to make ourselves look like the kind of being that doesn't need the gate transportation and the kind of being can keep secrets, both of these thing we've done.
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>>1285685
So we must hurry and wage SPACE WAR NOW.

Valen words for enemy and friend are basically the same thing, after all, so time for MAXIMUM BEFRIENDING.
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>>1285698
We totally could just raid them to capture the tech by force. If we claim the world of Aral as our own we'd have a causus belli to attack them there.
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>>1285702
Warp into the system using a rip drive. "Hey guys what's up nice gate."
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>>1285698
That is just the fast and short sited way anon. But i bet the union would be extremely happy if we fought the Valen. Lets just make then see that we are way to costly to fight.
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>>1285701
We have a space oven.
It's called Pegasean and it's in Desmond.
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>>1285702
It may be able to safely cross dimensions without relying on void shards

Since the gate are somehow reaching the trapped ceph home-world
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>>1285708
We are already in space war with the scavs, let's not spread our space and ground forces to thin.
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>>1285725
Plus we are trading for intel and tech on the neutral valen space stations/ports
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>>1285712
>Warp into the system using a rip drive. "Hey guys what's up nice gate."
Send in an invasion fleet, have some ships use the rip drive to get in while other use the blink drive, then broadcast a message.
"Hey guys nice FTL gate, want to buy some stuff for amazing prices? Just kidding you don't get a choice, buy my shit and have a joint research project with me."
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>>1285735
We can become the business and trading partner and/or rivals they've dreamed about
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>>1285735
Are you implying Valen don't trade with their enemies?

Or that there aren't innumerable Valen factions, each enemies and rivals of the others?

Valens respect a good enemy, anon.
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>>1285747
So cheecky.
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>>1285749
I like this idea a lot.
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>>1285752
Yeah but the gate clan are special pillar in their society aren't they?
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>>1285765
There's no official government. The richest Valen hold the most power.

But Valen lower on the ladder would be all too gleeful to tear down their betters if they can climb the power vacuum.
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>>1285621
"And are these military reports accurate?" Dillon says to your speaker as it chitters in the affirmative. Dillon examines the autopsy reports from various Commonwealth labs showing holographic sketches and images of Scavenger body parts and cybernetic systems, as well as ship bisections and battle reports. A short clip of your warriors torching a scavenger fire team as human troops gun them down as they flee plays silently amid a dozen other battle reports and debriefings that have been shared with your hive. Lyle leans over behind Dillon at one of the reports.

"Well shit, is that Cunningham?" Lyle says. "I remember that bastard. Highest rank I've ever seen on the front line. He dropped with the rest of us back in the Kittyhawk Rebellion in the first wave. He wasn't the best in the fight itself, since his suit has to haul around a mini command post instead of a proper rocket rack, but still, good guy, far as I can tell." Dillon tries to adjust the datapad away from Lyle in frustration.

"Would you pay attention? All of known space is devolving into war! Commonwealth is at war with the Union, and some other alien race is attacking the Commonwealth, not to mention that foreign hive in the Expanse, and this one pulling shit all over."

"Again, nothing you can do about much of any of that." Jackob says, "but I'm sure we could help out somewhere else. Check it out, they found some ancient looking drone thing on Djin. Humans are on the way out there anyways but right now it's got a good sized PDF for its population and hefty local infrastructure in space. I bet we could make it there under cloak and poke around a bit."

"I bet we could pound a few of these scav things into the pavement too." Lyle says, Dillon looks back confused.

"Why? You've been a wanted man in the Commonwealth for years?"

"Yea, well they look like they can put up a fight." He says, then shrugs, "alright, or we could break out those bastards held by the Valen, I guess we owe them for blowing up their ship at least."

"The Hive also requires a captured specimen from Nowhere!" Your speaker chirps. "They are strange, and must be studied."

>Recommend a mission
>Have them split up with drone assistance
>Let them choose
>Other
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>>1285765
I believe that those who know the Gate tech secrets were a religious sect
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>>1285757
We can even give them amazing deals that are bordering on charities while robbing them on other deals.
Also aren't their wars basically short periods of terrorist strikes and assassinations? That makes it so easy for us to join.
"Hey there friends, since your such good customers want some high discount ships?"
"Oh my it looks like one of your worlds is having a famine, I'll trade you some food for that unique tech you have."
"Oh hello again? how your boss doing? He's dead? how tragic."
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>>1285776
But they are at the bottom because they cant climb the ladder very well. It would be better to work with one towards the top but far enough down as to become partners on our terms.
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>>1285788
>Let them choose

Ah no reaction about what happened at nowhere?
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>>1285788
>>Recommend a mission
Lyle, go wrestle us a Nowhere silicon lifeform from that dark, sunless world.

Jackob...can you take a vacation to Coral and fish for some of the silicon life there on that bright, sunny beach world? For comparison.
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>>1285788
>>Let them choose
You can split up if you want and get drone support or stick together it makes no difference to us.
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>>1285788
>>Let them choose
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>>1285788
>>Let them choose
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>>1285806
I mean they should have been freaked by watching a unity capital ship torn to pieces like the union dudes were
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>>1285796
Fucking forgot the most important part
"Oh hello again? how your boss doing? He's dead? how tragic. So what do you think about my deal Mr promotion?"
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>>1285788
>Let them choose

if they want to do different things as it looks like

>Have them split up with assistance
BRING IN OUR SPEC OPS!!!
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>>1285788
>Let them choose
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>>1285788
>Let them choose.
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>>1285811
>Let them choose
They don't have to do the same thing, we can send a fireteam with each of them.
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>>1285788
Let them choose.
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>>1285823
It would take an entire week to make them.
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>>1285823
We can put those new stated clones to use
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>>1285833
Make some fast clones to assist then while we are at it. Did the Myrmidon project got aproved? Or was Praetorian the name?
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>>1285788
>Let them choose
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>>1285794
That was just their cover when applying for colonys to the union.
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>>1285839
We have 100 human clones in our upkeep. We can send some of then to help Lyle and his friends.
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>>1285846
That still takes a full day and the clones will be shit.
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>>1285846
Are you talking about the honor guard or black ops?
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>>1285862
Black ops.
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>>1285794
A religion whose only members are its employees. Religion is just the closest human analogue to a Valen business so well-paying that its employees won't ever betray them.

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/40616667/#40622021
>>>/tg/40622021
>
To outsiders it seems like a church, (and especially to Union tax offices) but to the Valeen, like all things, it is a form of business, like a guild. Unlike most Valen organizations, however, it utilizes and almost cult-like methodology to ensure that members are far closer and more cooperative with each other then even normal Valen, sacrificing the ideals of fluid and dynamic social structures in exchange for the reliable and seemingly endless demand that the Hypergate produces. Those who hold the secrets of the gate technology are all well aware that it is virtually impossible for any other organization to offer anything worth more then the long term income hyper gate technology offers, in both credits and social influence.
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>>1285856
That is actually true.
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>>1285788
>Recommend a mission
Go to Djin.
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>>1285823
Whatever we do, Dillon is NOT straying away from Jackob or Lyle. He refuses to be adopted! So we have to have one of the other two babysit him.
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>>1285860
They'll be shit if we roll badly, which is why i don't want to do it.
>>1285866
>>1285856
Alright then we can send in the 100 clones we have.
Also apparently we're still paying upkeep for the Hope crew.
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>>1285860
more like they have a chance to be shit.

The last batch of fast clones we made ranged from okay to missing a finger to albino to oh-god-what-the-fuck-kill-it
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>>1285868
So the Valen's have their own Freemasonry. Cool.
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>>1285869
I thought that was though out off all our operations? since we got them manning our spying ops and the trade routes
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>>1285875
Mostly so he doesn't leak sensitive information.
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>>1285788
Dillon is having serious midlife crisis as all this crap goes down?
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>>1285889
Nah he's just paranoid. Like any healthy spy should be. It must be strange to him having this alien bug creatures they are all open minded and don't hide, most of things, from you.
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>>1285890
I mean it is in character after all, he was the responsible one of this trio
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>>1285898
Yeah it's a pretty big case of culture shock going from being a super-spy where secrets within secrets were his daily life to living as a fugitive with a civilization where everyone is psionically linked with almost no privacy
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And these same life forms have a assembly of cool toys, that they simply share with people who help then. I still think we should put some kind of DNA security lock in our weapons. So only our agents and hive drones can use.

But that is just to costly and can be countered very easily.
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>>1285890
Yeah, of course he is.

He was actually having one before, it's just all this new information and rapidly changing galaxy is accelerating his condition. He's kind of been trying to get "in control" of things while not being super directly connected to the action because, well, that's who he is. An outside influencer/actor, a behind-the-scenes spy guy making small plays for long term objectives. Now his world is all big plays and he understands the risks and deeper implications more than the other two care about them and it's cranked his paranoia up to 11.
He's also naturally gonna make more connections than either Jackob or Lyle.
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>>1285910
And to top it off they don't even have alcohol just green space jam.
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>>1285788
>Let them choose
Might as well, any of the missions could still be handled without them (albeit with more difficulty), so we may as well let them decide.
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>>1285940
That seems like an oversight. Why can't we just make human-palatable food?
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>>1285940
Actually we do it's call the neural inhibitor.
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We should start researching alcohol drinks for Lyle. Can a entire civilization supply his drinking needs? Or will the civilization colapse in it's attemp?
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>>1285945
You know, there really isn't a reason why we can't make something like bug booze or hive cigars.

At the very least we should be able to synthesize something that he can smoke or gets him drunk.
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>>1285967
Yeah that's my point. Ethanol is ethanol, amd even though lyle has a parasite, he can still get a buzz. The nicotine from a cigar, idk how that would fare, but being able to just smoke the thing might be enough.
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>>1285967
Lyle is already trying to take a living tank while not drunk...imagine what fun things he will do when he's.
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>>1285967
The parasite can provide all stimulation of his pleasure centers that alcohol does.
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>>1285989
No, look, you don't understand what it means to a man to drink.

The act itself is partially the pleasure. A simulation can't match that.
Why do you think he was drinking rocket fuel mixed with industrial processing runoff? The act counts too.
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>>1285989
There's comfort it the act itself.
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>>1285967
We have literal oceans of pure sugary biomass, let us use it to make hive rum.
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>>1285989
It isn't just the stimulation, it's the habit itself. Lyle is used to feel drunk when he drinks. The act or habit of drinking is what he would want. Just like fighting is a way for his body to pump adrenaline in his body.
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I imagine any alcohol we make is either a copy of already existing human brand alcohol or a kind of alcohol that has been made/mixed with native Leeland spores making it nearly lethal.
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"What, you mean where this happened?" Dillon shouts as he turns his datapad to your drone as it depicts a lancing beam of energy slice a server ship in half from the perspective of a nearby unity cruiser.

"Yes." Your speaker chirps. "All of these things would be helpful, but the Hive does not need any done critically. Unity is assisting on infiltrating Valen systems over Kerik Ashka. Their situation is not critical."

"Where? You mean the Valen over Aral, right?" Dillon says, confused.

"Yes. Same place." Your speaker chirps dismissively. "You may choose where to assist if you wish."

"And what do you mean Unity?" Jackob asks.

"They're working together." Lyle says. "The tinnies were giving them info on me when I first got caught here, you know. Sounds like they're working on getting an inside job set up for that escape."

"Well we should help them, Unity or not, parasite or not, they're still human and still Union, and I wouldn't let anyone stay in Valen custody for too long."

"Alright, but we can't be stepping on the hive's toes, it sounds like they have this planned out in part. Like you said, the Valen will probably be quick to recognize the space as Hive owned, and they don't even keep the planets, they just use them as a base for construction, so they'll be more than willing to abandon the surface." Jackob says. Dillon thinks for a moment.

"Unless they don't want the Valen to know those are agents. Anyone the Valen thinks is trying to get their gate tech tends to get on their shit list real quick. They may be waiting to establish a more favorable first encounter."

"Okay, so the job is to help the homicidal robots to rescue a bunch of humans from the Union, who are actually hive agents, all while making sure that neither the robots or the Hive can be implicated in any of it?" Lyle asks. Jackob gives him a light punch.

"You may need to stay in the ship. You're a bit famous."

"Oh fuck off, I got helmets for that."

"We also can't use those exo-suits. They're too obvious. Human made gear only." Dillon adds. Jackob pulls out the small hilt of his photon blade as he juggles it in his hand.

"Not even this? It's damn useful."

"Just make sure anyone who sees it dies by it or is on our side." Lyle says with a grin, Jackob nods back.

"Can do." He says, Dillon just sighs at the both of them as maps and schematics of the Valen facility update on his datapad from the information Decker had managed to retrieve.

>Add objective details (write in)
>Other
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>>1285999
>>1286006
My niggers.
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>>1286013
How about two batches, one for non hive humans that's like normal liquor, and one that's so strong you need a parasite to help cope with the sheer volume of ethanol and hallucinagenic spores we mix it with.
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>>1286022
>>Add objective details (write in)
Find out the status of the gate construction. ETA on completion.

And any info on the most knowledgable Valen engineers that are designing the project, and their presence there. Kidnap one, or bring like a few dozen parasites and flies, if it's convenient.
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>>1286033
Seconding.
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>>1286022
>>Add objective details (write in)
If you can pin the escape attempt on the Union, more the better. The entire purpose of this mission was to sour their relations with the Valen.
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>>1286029
>Lyle drinks our special brew because he thinks he can handle it.
>"Guys help i think my liver just shrunk."
>"Also i think it's talking to me"
>And after he recovers from the hangover he ask for another one, slightly smaller shot this time.
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>>1286022
Any last minute body augmentations before they leave?
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>>1286033
>Kidnap one
>Kidnap a Valen

You know those things are like whale sized creatures right?
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>>1286033
Don't do this. He just said anyone the valen think is trying to get the gate tech get on the shit list.
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>>1286033
Actually, Theseus would be best for information gathering on all of that...but there might be networks that aren't connected to the others.

Stick these psionic USB sticks into any isolated secure networks that Theseus can't infect. Then remove them and try and create a permanent connection to the rest of the networks over wifi or hardline or something.
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>>1286047
We probably need to remove the obvious ones actually
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>>1286022
We will need to provide the funds to purchase the gear right? since they want stuff with serial numbers that can led a false trail right?
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>>1286053
Which would be why we're pinning this attack on the Union.

Actually we'd probably need to send aquatically-adapted flies to invade the valen aqua tanks...
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>>1286010
That makes me wonder.

Could we just... turn a relatively stable world's oceans into Hive Rum?
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>smaller
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>>1286022
Stealth hive in one of the Skyl ruins.
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>>1286022
>>1286033
We should make gathering info a bonus objective that doesn't need to be done but will earn him bonus points if he does it.
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>>1286022
>Add objective details (write in)

-Anable the escape of hive sleeping agents. (subtly, this is two times more for you Lyle.)
-Make the rescue operation as a Op to find the status of the gate construction. In other words use a objective to mask another.
-Find out the status of the gate construction. ETA on completion.
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>>1286042
kek

>>1286070
I...don't even want to think about the forms of life that would live in such an ocean.
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>>1286039
Wait, but then who will the Union think engineered the escape of all these people, since they'll know they didn't do it?

We have to pin it on "Decker's internet friends." Technically it's kinda true.
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>>1286067
>Which would be why we're pinning this attack on the Union.
With Lyle?
The guy the union leaders knows works for us?
The same guy who caused the Cortez crew's capture?
Which the crew probably told to the valen?
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>>1286082
Include decker stealing a ton of dosh again just to piss off the valen again
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>>1286082
Seconding.
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>>1286088
We do have a contact with a terrorist cell. We can pull the blame on then and say they attacked the Valen for funds.
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>>1286096
That's why Lyle's identity is staying obscured by a helmet, geez anon he just said that. We already are pretending this is a purely human-backed operation. That's the whole premise.

Of course it doesn't have to be the Union being blamed, yeah, that's probably a bad idea for other reasons.
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>>1286118
Do you seriously think that helmet will be staying on Lyle's head?
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>>1286080
Yeah we can just put a camoflaged, gravity foils winged egglayer on the shuttle, and it can run off and lay all the spores it wants in some cave.

Try and not let Dillon see it if possible.
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>>1286118
Heck we could play it as being a terrorist group and then black mail the union to pay us for them back or we could return them to the union for goodwill
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>>1286132
Plastic surgery then? I mean it's not like we can't do it.
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>>1286132
Yes?

Even if he was seen, it's not like they could prove that he wasn't just doing yet another job for a different side.
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>>1286149
Or like Dillon said. He can stay in the car.
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>>1286022
Your speaker chirps in agreement at their quickly assembling plans. It is always enjoyable to watch non-psionic creatures organize. Your drone shitters its mandibles quickly.

"You must also discover their construction plans. The time frame of their project, and those who are in charge of its design and construction. Infecting the base with further Theseus instances should accomplish this."

"So now we're bypassing AAII protocols, wonderful." Dillon says as a pair of workers rush in and hand them several small data storage devices built to replicate Valen and human tech standards. The second drone hands Lyle a small cup without explanation as the two leave. He sniffs at it inquisitively.

"This vodka?" He asks, your drone chitters.

"The hive has much excess sugar." You say as he quickly pours the contents down his throat.

"Stop getting him drunk before a missing, damnit!" Dillon shouts as your workers flee the room. "We need full face covering, opaque helmets and human made equipment only, skin coverings for the augs. You both look like shit, get those bug bits covered up." He quickly turns to your speaker "The ship should have plenty of gear still, just load up the ship some medical pods and enough food and water for a week, just in case."

"Bug bits? Honestly they don't look all that bug-like to me." Jackob says. "His are too armored and mine just sorta look. Okay, my arms look like they don't have skin, I guess, so I'll take the 'like shit' part, but still."

cont.
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>>1286022
He cant take his ship to do this op, they need another human made
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Shit guys...i just though of a thing. The Valen don't seem to care about planets as Dilon stated before and we need planets to increase our income and space war what if we start a properties market for planets?! We trade tech or money with the Valen for planets with a good amount of nutrients and other lush resourses. The Vallen will get a new market and new tech and we can get planets.
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>>1286022
As long as we put flies and parasites and an egglayer on board, we'll figure out what to do once they're landed there.

Actually once they break Decker loose, then we have a cover. Decker will try and direct his 'friends' he just hired off the internet with his hacking skills, and now he's going to try and rob the Valen to pay these mercs.

By having them help him break into the isolated networks that Theseus couldn't infect.

That lets us get the information we want, without making it obvious what we're really after.

We need a reason to break into the aqua tanks though. We could just let the flies gnaw their way in there.
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>>1286156
>Your drone shitters its mandibles quickly.
Huh.
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>>1286156
>"Stop getting him drunk before a missing, damnit!"
I love our children, all of them, so very much.
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>>1286143
>Heck we could play it as being a terrorist group and then black mail the union to pay us for them back or we could return them to the union for goodwill
We can do this as long as we don't send in the guys who cause the cortez's capture.
>>1286146
I forgot that jackob can change his face. He can lead the terrorist team.
>>1286149
>Even if he was seen, it's not like they could prove that he wasn't just doing yet another job for a different side.
They can if they ask the union leaders.
Also Dillon just described the valen as paranoid fuckers, we have left too many clues (Strange reading on the nerve stapler, the 2 cortez crew's confessions)so it would be easy for them to connect the dots and suspect us.
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>>1286160
A few aesthetic changes should take only a few hours with our workers on it, and Lyle will not leave with out his Angel.
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>>1286169
Dillon is not our child.

Yet.
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>>1286085
We could even use it as a threat of sorts in the form of a gift.

Morgan wants to renege on his deal? Blue oceans into Red Queen's Royal, 137 proof, spore distilled, open-air pelagic reserve.

>>1286132
I think it's worth the risk, we can do or say any number of things in case of the greatest failure. Besides that, the Valen's specific attitude for competition might play into our favor if their gate religion is discovered to have been breached by a relatively low-powered foreign force.

Ideally, they'd pin it on their current biggest threats because that looks better, and we could do that in the worst case.

>>1286161
I think that would be worth a try.
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>>1286169
Dilon doesn't have a symbiote so he isn't our child...yet. We will adopt him eventualy
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>>1286171
As long as we dont leave any connection between the anomalies then they will have a bunch of equally crazy theories instead of one sweat inducingly concrete one.
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>>1286161
Something like this could actually work, we could land lease out blocs of territory, or just sell rights to access hive held regions on our worlds for huge amounts of whale dosh.
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>>1286167
huh... I think my computer is picking up bad auto-correct habits from my chat histories...
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>>1286181
>>1286190
Alright, as long as we don't give them connections (aka send in Lyle) I'll support the plan.
Also i really like this plan >>1286163
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>>1286212
But where will we send Lyle in the meantime? He's more likely to die of boredom here than in any other firefight going on in the galaxy. The scavs maybe? It's not like we have a random birthday party he can crash.
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>>1286196
>>1286181
We can even "sell" the space of our planets if they are in a specific trade route so the Valen can build their gates. If the Valen are divided by clans each clan must have a gate route to supply it's merchant routes. So you see lesser Valen with planets, sundely controlling gates above our space because they "both the land" and what is on it it's theirs.

Just like the guy from Macdonald's did.
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>>1286163
Wait, is there a drug we can pump into the valen aqua filters to knock the gators unconscious?

That's the perfect excuse to break into the aqua filters and piping. Knock out the gators, while also letting aquatic flies and parasites into the waters.
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>>1286230
>But where will we send Lyle in the meantime?
We'll send him to fight the scavs and to reconnect with his old friend Cunningham.
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>>1286199
eewww?
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>>1286238
If you put shit that knocks them out into their water, then they are gonna check the water. Even if they weren't paranoid, they would still connect the dots.
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>>1286163
I like this but the flies were detected once by the Valen drones, unless Theseus can cloak our flies from the drones vision i can see us breaking in without being caught.
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>>1286251
If we put Theseus in the right cyber systems, he probably can.
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>>1286244
I'd support that.
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>>1286251
>>1286250
What we need is to sample the fauna of Valen tanks (If they even have any) so we can design our aqua flies to blend in seamlessly.
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>>1286246
You never called someone a shitter in a game? Eh, I know a few australians so I guess I smack talk more than most, hard to tell.
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>>1286264
uh, I assumed something far worse.

Scat
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>>1286244
Lyle is probably court martialed criminal scum to Cunningham now.

Of course Lyle can explain about how the hive has retained his merc services with these AMAZING augments that you should totally try some time, now that old Augustus has a bum leg and all.
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>>1286264
I believe that anon is a pervert.
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>>1286271
Get your mind out of the gutter, thinker.
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>>1286264
I do but i save most of it for Union players.

Love you man hope your health is back up and you are feelling better
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>>1286262
Alright then.
We send Jackob and Dillon with a team of hybrid clones disquised as terrorists to do the "Decker hired friends" plan, meanwhile Lyle shows up in commonwealth space because he heard fun stuff was happening.
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>>1286286
Dude too late, they already taking lyle into account of their planning
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>>1286294
We can still have our speaker intercede and tell Lyle to go "On vacation"
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>>1286294
Let's make sure Theseus scrubs Lyle's identifying features from the security feeds if anything goes awry with the 'wear a helmet' plan then.
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>>1286299
And what be overbearing when we already allowed them to decide on things themselves?

Let the spook squad decide on their own . they aint rookies
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>>1286286
If this needs to be voted to be done i will support it.
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>>1286311
Yeah, you are right...better let then decide it by themselfs.
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>>1286311
Lyle wanted to smash scavs, we'll just be encouraging that.
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>>1286311
I do think Lyle would have the most fun in the place with the most bang.
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>>1286329
>>1286334

Lyle sticks with his buddies by the looks of it

And we already stated to them they can choose their own missions and they decided to do this

So stop second guessing them and trust them that they know what their doing
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>>1286311
This. If he's still spoiling for a fight after, we can send him into a warzone, but they've made their decision.
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>>1286337
Fine Lyle can come.
But he has to adopt a persona.
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>>1286350
Today, he is not Lyle. He's his own original merc... Blyle.
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Last thread, I had two ideas that were buried in the end. The first, is how to infiltrate any ship unnoticed. Take some of those fluffy vermin that infest any ship and breed like crazy. Somehow make them psionicaly connected to us and still fertile. Now we have eyes on every ship in space
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>>1286374
Yeah okay that's a bit OP anon. Like, do you even want to play fair at that point?

Let's do it.
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>>1286374
I would rather create farms from these cuttiest and increase our nutrient income.
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>>1286374
Currently impossible. And people tend to notice those breeding purring fearless things.

It'd actually be easier just to have flies hide in the vents and turn into an egglayer to lay more flies.
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>>1286390
That seems like a potential problem waiting to happen. All it takes is one accident or unforeseen issues, and suddenly all the food is now tribbles. Not catastrophic, but annoying and hard to get rid of.
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>>1286390
>farming meat
This isn't File Island.
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>>1286390
They need to eat too though
>>1286394
Just putting the possibility forward
>>1286374
The second is how to research the psionic cannon without needing the help of any faction or risking Elizabeth's sanity. First, find a moon that is otherwise useless. Make a research facility lined with anti-psionic shielding. Make a bunch of fully human non-psionic clones that are completely loyal to us. Half of them get the skillset of Seiner and the other half get Elizabeth. Set them to work on the cannon while communicating with us via q-com. Monitor their vitals constantly. When anyone of them starts getting corrupted by the void gods, we pump the facility with neurotoxin, killing them. We then recover their memories with the implants if we deem it safe to do so. We then make a new batch of clones, hand them the collected research, and start the cycle anew.
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>>1286402
This is a good plan, and it's entirely feasible. We might have to do a bit of extra research into the genetic peculiarities of blanks before we can engineer an army of them, but totally doable, Im all for it.
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>>1286399
>>1286400
>>1286402
Oh, don't miss understand me. I know it's a bad idea we don't need or should do it. But we can still use their quick and fertile growth in our nutrient production can't we?
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>>1286402
Honestly that actually sounds like a pretty great idea.
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>>1286402
Wont it be more easier to just use a custom made unity AI to do this? with a kill switch and stuff?
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>>1286416
Probably more efficient to eat the nurtients they would eat
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>>1286419
This way Unity doesn't have to get involved. We could do it differently, but this is if we need to do it stealthily or something
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>>1286419
It's preferable to handle this in house if possible. We've already put the Unity on THEIR shitlist with our little stunt on Nowhere, I'd rather not get him any more attention than absolutely need be.
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>>1286402
But aren't the Void gods watching us? I know mom managed to build and test the canon by using the humans. Did she influeced then directly, by having communications with then or was all of it just the blueprints recorded in a white crystal.
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>>1286423
Unity doesn't need to be involved other than creating a custom AI that will only know what we wanted program into it, and we can limit it to only what assets are in the facility and what we drop off using a human made vessel

Convince the AI it is union made for a top secret project and give it fake info about the surrounding space
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>>1286416
>we can still use their quick and fertile growth in our nutrient production can't we?

No, digesting food into different food doesn't gain you anything.
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>>1286156
Gilliam wakes suddenly to the sound of loud beeping at his bedside. He waves his hand at the table at his side until he manages to hit the button to take the call, and Palmer's voice erupts from the speakers.

"Hurry! You need to look at this quick!" He says with urgency. Gilliam shoots up in a panic and looks to the screen.

"What happened? What's going on?" He says, and his screen is quickly filled with images of various test results and genetic mapping data.

"We couldn't wait any longer, we're drilling the ice core without you, this time taking a sample of the alien corpse in the process to try and get a proper date on it. You're going to miss it!" Gilliam stops himself for a moment in groggy thought.

"Did you not sleep at all?" He asks finally, Palmer just seems to stifle back a chuckle.

"How can you sleep at a time like this?" Gilliam simply looks at the clock and groans.

"Not even the mailmen are up at this hour." He says. "You just run your tests, I'll be in the lab by the time the results are in."

Palmer is already off the line to the sound of a laser drill in the background as Gilliam shuts the connection and makes his way to the shower before getting dressed in his new issued skinsuit rigged for chemical protection, and makes his way to the communal kitchen area. He periodically examines his datapad on the status of the various experiments ongoing, with a camera fixed on the frozen corpse as the laser drill makes its way into the ice, and then the carapace, slowly melting away until the ice core slowly raises from the melting block of ice, bringing a chunk of flesh with it. You urge Gilliam to hasten his meal and he makes his way to the lab itself, where Palmer still stands stooped over various instruments with the glee of a child in a candy store. The flesh sample sits in a container nearby, quickly being thawed by a number of low yield lasers flash over the globule of organic matter.

cont.
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>>1286434
Yup. They'll be able to figure out what we're doing well before we complete it.
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>>1286434
Did she influeced then directly, by having communications with then or was all of it just the blueprints recorded in a white crystal.
I think she had communications with them, i recal we had 3 memories from the moon relay. one of the blueprint implantation, another of the relay being dug up and seiner questioning why they have to build the thing and the final one being the firing and destruction of the cannon.
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>>1286439
Okay then. Let just forget about it then.
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>>1286447
What do you think of these?
>>1286374
>>1286402
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>>1286447
ahahahaha

>Crazy scientists up at the wee hours of the morning when no one else is around running experiments on salvaged alien "corpses."

When will the Union learn that following every single "mad science" trope generally leads to things going horribly wrong? ... sigh.
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>>1286434
She only influenced Grandpa Stiener and the relay there and the innate psi resistance of the crew kept the void shard influence on the humans to minimal

Wont work now since the void shard figured out how to corrupt humans now
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>>1286465
Also the armed guards are probably all
>>1286469
That's why we kill the clones once they start getting corrupted and hand a new batch the research
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>>1286465
The thing that worries me the most is about the security chief not having people watching Palmer while he does this kind of things.

We need to talk with the chief about this. Or at least bring it up to him.
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>>1286473
*all still asleep
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>>1286473
Then once the clones are dead we are invaded by a massive fleet of OQ's ships and Space Squids? Late game when we have a solid economy and base but not somethign we should rush for now.
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>>1286486
I never said we should do this right now, just offering a plan for in the future
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>>1286474
That might put Gilliam's and Palmer's scientist friendship at risk.
Better to give the security chief an anonymous card explaining Palmer's misdeeds, preferably describing a event that could had multiple people witness so Palmer doesn't have a clear suspect.
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>>1286477
>all still asleep
They would be the least competent guards in the galaxy if they didn't have a shift in position while the scientists crack the pod open.

And given the commander's philosophy on their experiments, I would be very surprised if the guards weren't put on red alert the second the researchers mentioned it.
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>>1286486
Yeah that why i offered the custom AI for that op, since we haven't seen proof of the Shards corrupting non organic life yet
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>>1286501
I support this. Also your post made me feel like i'm at work...it's like talking to your boss about a company college.
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>>1286486
I think we're still missing some vital pieces of the puzzle. Like we know the the psionic cannon is fuck-off powerful and it's the only thing that can hurt the Void Gods, But how exactly are we gonna use it to end the Void God threat?

Was Mom's plan really just to finish the weapon, let the void gods show up and then shoot them in the face with it? Just like that?

We need to know more about these things but at the same time knowing more about them literally increases their awareness towards us and their overall danger.
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>>1286509
The barren queen didn't consider silicon lifeforms as life and they were still corrupted. They aren't organic either
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>>1286517
The silicon blobs didn't seem corrupted by the void at all, they were just attracted to the activity of the Nowhere base by all indications.
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>>1286517
Wait what? when did the shards corrupt a ai yet?
And hive life is organic and can be corrupted as we saw with aunty
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>>1286499
It's still a good one, someone should post it on the wiki page.
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>>1286525
Oh, I thought they were being controlled
>>1286526
>Gif related
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>>1286515
In another words we need more research.
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>>1286517
>they were still corrupted
You can't just make up things that didn't happen.
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>>1286501
>>1286512
How about no. Let whatever disaster awaits happen and if it is big enough swoop in and clean it up while mocking their incompetence.
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>>1286525
Just because an AI has not been corrupted yet (and we don't even know that for sure. I seem to recall there were some strange things going down on Earth), doesn't mean it can't be corrupted in the future. Our mother genetically engineered humans for their brains to kill themselves before they'd become vulnerable to corruption. The Void corrupted them anyway. It's possible the Void is as good at reverse engineering as we are in its own way. At this stage we cannot take anything for granted even Theseus's presumed immunity to corruption.
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>>1286507
This. they'd be terrible guards if they didn't guard at night as well.

>>1286515
Also, as far as I know, we still only have roughly 3 "shots" for it, even if we get it working, with no leads on more.

>>1286509
AI is less likely to be corrupted, but we don't know it is impossible. If they can be, it will be much harder to deal with corrupted AI than corrupted flesh bags.
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>>1286546
>it will be much harder to deal with corrupted AI than corrupted flesh bags.
EMP's are thing you know.
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>>1286544
i can work with either, i was just trying to protect our agent.
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>>1286546
I bet the Commonwealth actually has some shards we can "fire" with the cannon. I assume they didn't keep their entire ammunition stockpile on the Moon when it was attacked.

We can also look through our soon to be recovered space in the expanse for more shards.
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>>1286545
>>1286546
Well we know that mom human project has been countered so the least risky way to do that op is to use a ai or just a basic automated facility that take orders from us by q com then
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>>1286557
That is bad isn't it? imagine the amount of crystal jacked humans now in the commonwealth black ops division like in the union
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>>1286546
I think some sort of watch system should be sufficient. Aside from the whole research base being blacked out, a surveillance system physically unaccessible from the research AI itself (in a way that any attempts to tamper with it are blatantly obvious to us.) And another AI not looking at the shards to monitor any changes in the research AI itself.
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>>1286546
Three shots per ship.
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>>1286557
Why do people like you distrust information we have expertise on (like these drones being dead)?
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>>1286565
Good point. Maybe the Commonwealth just locked all that shit down after the Moon disaster? I think we'd know if an equally insane experiment was going to take place for them. Perhaps they just realized some research avenues are too costly to be worth pursuing (a lesson the Union still has to learn, I might add)?
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>>1286551
Which reminds me, we still need to figure out how quantum scramblers work.
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>>1286515
Well it wasn't by choice that she had to face them

They had her trapped finally and went in for the kill

She did it as a last resort and while we now know it can hurt them, i also agree that it may not be enough to finish them for good
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>>1286576
This was meant for >>1286552
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>>1286577
>Humanity
>learning something from it's story.

One can only hope anon...one can only hope.
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>>1286581
The clones trading at Deep Song should just buy one already. There are enough arms dealers around.
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>>1286584
Because i'm paranoid. And autist.
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>>1286581
Short ranged EMP.
Personally I'm more interested in warp jamming.
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>>1286576
>information we have expertise on (like these drones being dead)?

'no mental signal' doesn't necessarily mean it's not in a state similar to hibernating, anon. Our drones can play dead too. An older hive may have found a similar method.
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"I think we are getting closer on a proper timeline." Palmer says without looking up from his microscope. "Geologically speaking, Djin is active but not exactly the most lively of places, most of its activity comes from the liquid water running through the frozen surface. It's actually not all that different from Europe back in Sol, actually, although there does seem to be much less liquid water beneath all that ice, with regard to ratios at least." He catches himself in his rambling, pulling his unwashed hair back from his face. "Anyways, the point is, the caves were, by and large, formed a million or so years ago, give or take. The locals have been mapping out places that they think used to be underground where water could have flowed more freely to create the caves, but the area near where they found our body, it's much younger, less than a hundred thousand maybe. Geologically this doesn't make much sense to them, so the leading theory is there was some kind of impact or disturbance there." He looks up from his microscope at Gilliam with a smile on his face.

"So that means they are aliens to Djin, since we have yet to find any major or obvious planet wide support structure, and the disturbance is localized to just the region around Camp Thule. They say they are focusing their efforts on a number of ice caves in that area that are especially deep and have the youngest records." He continues. "I think that may have been the landing site for them, possibly the site of their base, also, look at this, it's a seismograph they took of the region, now I'm not that much of a geologist, but they agreed with me when I pointed it out, it looks like something is buried under the ice, and it's big!" He says. Gilliam attempts to cut him off.

"Wait, hold on, back up to the stuff in our lab, alright?" Gilliam says. "Do we have a timeline for them then?"

"Well, a better one, at least. The oldest ice core they have that doesn't match with the local geological activity is about ninety thousand years old. The youngest is well under five thousand, now that could mean they have been active relatively recently, although personally I doubt it, judging by the looks of the site, but it could also just mean some of the ice caves in the area have already started shifting on their own. That area is prone to quakes, possibly as a result of the object buried in the ice."

"How about we let the people at Camp Thule deal with the thing in the ice, alright?" Gilliam says with some minor impatience. "Do we have a test on the body itself?"

"Yes, according to my initial tests, whatever it was sunk into the ice about seventy thousand years ago, but the body itself is throwing off my readings. It's possible it lived in an environment with an unusual radiation level, but I'm getting a different reading just about every time I take a sample. I'll have to run a more in depth radiology report to figure out what this thing is made of."

Cont.
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>>1286590
No one communicates over any medium similar to the Warp from 40k except arguably the Ceph, so you're interested in something that either doesn't exist or would be way too dangerous to tamper with.
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>>1286597
Welp, time to send an excavation fleet to Djinn.
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>>1286589
I'm both of those but I'm also reasonable there is nothing wrong with with a disaster happening because of the head scientist actions because that plays into our favor and if nothing our head scientist can still monitor the situation.
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>>1286597
>lived in an environment with an unusual radiation level
IIRC, wasn't mom's home base a desert with unusally high radiation from the surrounding nebula?
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>>1286597
Fuck its alive, and there may be queen on that trapped ship

Reminds of that caphias cain novel about the nid hive ship trapped on a ice world that started to wake up
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>>1286597
>the frozen surface. It's actually not all that different from Europe back in Sol, actually

Climate change was a bitch, huh?
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>>1286598
This is Theseus himself told us about anon. Warp jamming is a counter to the warp drive.
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>>1286607
I think he meant Europa
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>>1286607
Caused by humans blowing up the moon and the debris destroying the earth
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>>1286607
Stop with the nagging, QD has more important things to focus on.
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>>1286597
>but I'm getting a different reading just about every time I take a sample.
The void crystals have done that, why is the drone doing it too?
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>>1286609
Knowing Theseus he was probably thinking of ways to electronically sabotage the craft with an EMP limpet or something that relies on physical contact with the hull, rather than some kind of energy field or warhead. Although this technology would compliment our newly developed harpoons very well, if that were the case,.
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>>1286603
Agreed. This needs to be a high priority. We may even want to trade rights for some of the less interesting Expanse planets for unlimited rights to Djinn.
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>>1286605
Great, so it'll respond to awaken at our mental signal, due to inheritance.

Or stay asleep if we don't awaken it.
>• Throne: Sheltered from the harsh radiation of the Cradle by the nebulous alcove, but bathed in enough of its harsh light to make it difficult to detect at long range, this was the fortress world of the White Queen, and the location of her last stand. It’s crust has been upended by some force, causing what was once a radioactive desert world to become a desert of smoldering volcanic rock.
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>>1286617
Ancient as fuck anon. Wear and tear causes parts of its body to be different ages.
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>>1286597
>seventy thousand years
So it can be a WQ drone,Who dug something out of the ice core. I think when the hive arrived at this place they landed on Djinn leaved making tunnels and after a time mom or some other queen send a drone to dig it up. I think it might be mom and aunties Ark the massive thing buried Djinn.
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>>1286597
God damn it just one more data point and we'd know for certain. You better not be a twit Palmer.
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>>1286618
It would definitely help in capturing ships if our harpoon can pump an EMP into them
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>>1286623
I wonder if Gilliam's parasite would be enough to talk to it, but thats running on the assumption that it is mom's.
If it is, i wonder if we can tell it to play dead for a while.
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>>1286626
>I think it might be mom and aunties Ark the massive thing buried Djinn.
There was only one arkship.
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>>1286621
Never mind on the trading rights. I forgot that Djinn is in the Koenig system which we're already claiming in the Expanse.

Immediate exploration is still a high priority, though.
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>>1286624
if it has different ages it means it's undoing its comatose/fossilized state and getting back up. The meat chunks is literally rejunanating itself back to life...amazing...
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>>1286597
> yet to find any major or obvious planet wide support structure
> disturbance is localized to just the region around Camp Thule.
> may have been the landing site
> something is buried under the ice, and it's big!"
I don't suppose we can tell if the iced worker is a normal worker, or a starter worker? 'Cause if the "big thing" under the is is hive pod sized, this /might/ be a failed queen.
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>>1286631
Have we tried sending a psionic signal to it to make sure its really dead and not hibernating?

>>1286633
Yeah I think it's either a Hive or a large enough ship like the Hiveship or other capital ship
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>>1286626
WQ drones could be literally any age, she only self-destructed the last of her hives less than a year ago. There's no narrowing it down.
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>>1286636
May have hid there during a planetary bombardment

A hive ship perhaps?
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>>1286631
If we're talking to the parasite in the first place, the lab is obviously within the considerable range of a relay.
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>>1286636
>inb4 its our cousin from Hive Queen Quest - Beta
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>>1286636
>something is buried under the ice, and it's big!"
>Cause if the "big thing" under the is is hive pod sized.
A pod is 10 meters in size, that's not Big.
In fact i read QD saying once that the pod is so small for a spacecraft that the factions wouldn't expect such a craft to be FTL capable.
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>>1286644
Fuck poor bastard
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>>1286637
Well if we were going to send a psionic signal we wouldn't want to do it until it was thawed out at least.
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>>1286639
Well whatever or who ever was its queen doesn't matter. The thin inside the ice that is what matters.
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>>1286644
>"I have decided to hibernate. Don't wake me up or I'll send the KEEKs after you."
>Several thousand years later the humans make a terrible mistake.
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>>1286644
Man, Sunny must have really been through some harsh times.
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>>1286644
Oh god too true, too fucking true
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>>1286647
Big is relative. If they were looking for other worker-sized objects, a pod is much larger than a worker. We don't know what they were looking for though, so it could be something else entirely.
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>>1286651
>doesn't matter
If it was a close relative then we inherit control of it anon and we can send it after that large intact piece of BQ ship they have in the same lab, assuming it has enough sensory organs to find it.
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>>1286660
You are right. That was actually a bad call from me.
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>>1286654
Sunny had a hard life...
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>>1286658
Go look at how big 10 meters is on google. Compared to Camp Thule, the ice caves and the hypothetical landing site/base 10 meters is fucking nothing.
>>1286660
Might want Gilliam to step out of the facility for some local food then have him meet up with our agents to collect the relay jammer.
Then we just use the drone for a distraction.
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>>1286683
>>1286660
Can you seriously stop making stupid plans? The drone isn't confirmed alive yet.
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>>1286597
"I noticed it seems to still bleed. I was expecting it to be fossilized mostly, or mummified at least." Gilliam says. Palmer nods as he shrugs over the instrument readouts of his console.

"True, but you never know just how effective aliens will be at preserving their dead. It's quite likely the carapace is air tight and even vacuum sealed." He examines the screen over the microscope as it displays a wall of cells. "Look here, the cells themselves look similar in design to earth plant cells, with a kind of protective shell surrounding them. Incidentally, not all the cells look like this. It's like... pockets of them spread out within the ice core sample."

"Pockets, of what, plant matter?"

"Surrounding normal cells, yes."

"What if that's some kind of mutation to survive internal icing? That is one of the primary causes of cell death in cryogenics." Gilliam says. "Are you sure this thing is dead?"

"It would be an unprecedented discovery of modern science for it to be otherwise." Palmer replies, then leans in, as if afraid one of the guards won't find the joke as funny. "I don't think we'd be that lucky."

Gilliam looks back up at the screen, the wall of cells stand firm like a microscopic fortress. On the screen next to is is the image of the frozen corpse, now nearly thawed, the ice block almost entirely gone save for a few chunks of flesh still encased in ice. The thawing lasers lance at the remaining chunks of ice in rapid bursts of heat that send water vapor into the air in a faint foggy mist around it. You've not seen a drone like it before. Its head is lopsided, possibly an injury of some kind, but it looks almost as if it were stretched apart, like a soft clay sculpture torn apart and remoulded hastily. It has a few too many limbs, a number of smaller, seemingly non-functional legs protruding from the sides of its thorax and its abdomen is elongated and twisted with a warped, husk of a third arm extending a foot and a half from its breastplate, which is itself contorted in shape. It seems to have some manner of proto-tail, possibly similar to your own, a kind of extended thorax that reaches about half the length of your own tail adaptation, ending in what looks like a small set of miniature combat mandibles.

>Have Gilliam assist Palmer (write in)
>Examine the frozen drone further (write in)
>Other
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>>1286704
>Examine the frozen drone further (write in)
Try to send a discrete psionic handshake to it.
Either way there's not trying to hide it waking up in front of the humans.
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>>1286704
a multipurpose drone? Might make sense if resources are scarce. Or perhaps a test subject? Or is it corrupted?
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>>1286717
This may just be what drones looked like before the never ended quest for efficacy and improvements streamlined them to what we got
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>>1286704
>Have Gilliam assist Palmer (write in)
This is really curious. A bug this different from usual sounds like drastic change and innovation - something most queens will never do. We need to learn more about this and discreetly helping Gilliam would be a boon in this situation. There's also the complete chance we could be wrong given how different from the normal hive creature this being is.

>>1286710
I agreethat we should attempt a discrete psionic handshake with the "corpse" if it is indeed dead we need not worry. If it is psionically shrouded that would be good to know also. And finally, if alive regardless of whether it is friendly or hostile getting that information ahead of time would be good to know.
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>>1286704
>>1286710
Supporting this.
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>>1286704
>Examine the frozen drone further (analize to see if it's alive. Don't wake it up.)
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>>1286704
>>Have Gilliam assist Palmer (write in)
Hey, why don't I get started by sequencing the genome.

And watching the genome sequence on screen. With my human eyes.
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>>1286717
Sounds as fucked up as that one speed grown clone we made on Gemini
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>>1286710
Supporting this, psionically probe this thing before we let these fools touch it
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>>1286735
Question, if it is alive and somehow we take control of it if it's related to us, what should we do with it?
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>>1286717
I think is a early hatched drone. Like our clones that can be fast produced create mutations, this might be a early hatched drone.
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>>1286710
Before we commit to this we need to work out contingencies. If the handshake connects or it wakes up, what next? try to steal it? Kill it? Ignore it?
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>>1286704
Sort of reminds me of the fucked up monster we made when building our clones under gemini. Might be a sign that the queen on Djin was under duress of some kind when the drone was spawned, and probably as it looks horribly mutated was forced to sit out of the way in a corner as its hive was wiped out by whatever event took place on Djin.

In all likelyhood, the drone will be only want to get back to its queen for new orders when/if it wakes up, we should inform it that its queen is hibernating if it wakes up, that or we should seriously fucking rush to djin because that thing probably wont be down for conversation.

TLDR
Looks like the Djin queen was fast baking drones and this one is a backwards retard
also
>Examine the frozen drone further (write in)
Compare it to our knowledge of rushed drone malformations.
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I dunno about the handshake, it could very well be warped by the void gods or some shit. Just read its description and our reaction to it
>>1286738
Destroy other samples

Also yeah, it could be a rush job.
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>>1286738
>getting our minds anywhere near one that's potentially corrupted
I'd really rather not.
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>>1286738
Well its late and i need to sleep. Good game to all of you anons. And QD glad to see you are good.
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>>1286738
Feign harmlessness for 24 hours, while they provide nutrients to feed it to study a live test subject, while the drone regains its post-hibernation strength.

Then find a way to obliterate the BQ samples, and/or just break this drone out into the wild so that WE can reverse engineer its adaptations instead.
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>>1286740
I don't think there's much *we* could do about it, not without tipping the Union off that we somehow know about that secret research facility of theirs.
Honestly i wanted to try communicating with it since i think that the human's prodding would probably wake it up anyway.
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>>1286743
Are you kidding me? What a waste of a potential for funny shennanigans.
imagine Ice bug wakes up, shakes its head a few times, and then just standing there is all like.
"By the way I automatically made contact with the hivemind what the fuck are you all doing? Whats happening here?"
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>>1286752
Kek,
Want to see
Have it demand for a Representative
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>>1286752
God I'm an idiot, I didn't even think of that!
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That description of the frozen drone is really unnerving me. What if it's from one of the corrupted hives? Let's hope the void gods haven't left the material universe a present.
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>>1286752
That is a good idea.
Maybe have the speaker suddenly rush for a ship that will take it to path and have it walk to the facility with a warrior entourage.
>"Hello this is speaker i have come to retrieve worker/warrior."
>"H-How did you find us."
>"It called for help."
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>>1286704
Find out the genetic differences between this drone and the crashed stuff from the battle.
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>>1286752
It's not a Speaker. What's it going to do?
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>>1286761
Write it on the wall with a claw
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>>1286757
That probably reveals too much about our nature
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>>1286761
Well its a fucked up mutant so who knows! also!
>>1286757
^^
Point is there is room for funny jokes to be made, and if it doesn't involve fucking with void gods im all for taking the funny route
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>>1286763
>I'm calling my lawyer.
We finally have an excuse for putting a speaker in a suit.
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>>1286764
We said the same thing to one of the secretary council members when he asked how we found nowhere.
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>>1286764
Anon, they know we are a hive mind and we already used psi bullshit card on them
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>>1286738
Have it become docile - then send a few ships over and broadcast to the lab that we know what they're doing and we're taking it over.

Resistance is futile, yada yada.
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>>1286704
>Have Gilliam assist Palmer (write in)
See about making heads and tails of this failed abortion. Possibly cross-reference with what we know about mutations in rushed life, without revealing anything to Palmer.
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>>1286772
>>1286771
>>1286764
It could be reasoned out that the whole shitshow at Nowhere that was probably like a psionic scream to us.

If we show up here in the kab, they'll draw 2 conclusions:

1. We have some sort of presence nearby to detect the drone waking up
or
2. The psionic network is much more farther-reaching than they thought.
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>>1286757
Yeah, something like this is good. We have a bunch of speakers, though. I don't want to use the one at Gemini. Too many shenanigans going on there for us not to have our prime speaker available to capitalize on it.
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>>1286777
yeah its best to keep out knowledge of this a secret to the Union. It might lead to Gilliam being compromised
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>>1286752
Yiss.
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>>1286704
>Have Gilliam assist Palmer (write in)
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>>1286777
>We have some sort of presence nearby to detect the drone waking up

Uh, don't they already know that? We sensed the OQ forces invading and headed them off. The only way we could know about the invading hive forces is if the OQ forces were actually under our control the whole time or that we already had sensor abilities in that region. Given that it's a fairly good bet from the Union brass at this point that we have stealth capabilities (even if those abilities have not been proven beyond doubt to them yet), I don't think we reveal too much by saying we heard the drone on Path and came to investigate. Hell, we can do this even if it turns out the drone isn't something we'll be able to control.
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>>1286797
Predicting enemy movements is completely different. There are any number of ways of observing those, like watching her systems, since there's a whole logistics chain that goes into sending a fleet across space. Nothing that necessarily requires a presence in the human border system that got attacked.

A single drone waking up on a human planet is a bit different.
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>>1286704
You attempt to reach out to its mind, if it is there to reach out to, and attempt to make some kind of contact. You feel nothing. A wall of opaque, thoughtless nothingness. Gilliam brings up the sample data and the current up to date data on the drone genetic sample.

"Did you compare the two genetically yet?"

"That was the next step, actually. The sample is already being analyzed, but we don't have much of a picture yet."

"Well what do we have so far?" Gilliam asks, Palmer snaps his fingers at an assistant as he attempts to form the words in his head.

"Bring up the thing, for the thing, quick!" He says with jubilation at every new discovery, his apparent love of each moment in the lab rivaling that of a thinker. A moment later an incomplete genetic strand forms in the air above a set of holoprojectors. "Not much to look at just yet." He says, and while you have no doubt Gilliam would agree, you feel you should know enough of the human's primitive data analysis systems to attempt to translate the poor analogies into the more accurate symphony that is hive genetics, or at least some approximation that would at least give you some more clues regarding its nature.

Please roll 1d100, best of 3 to attempt to gleam some information from the mess of data the humans claim as research.
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>>1286797
>Hell, we can do this even if it turns out the drone isn't something we'll be able to control.
Hell, it's sufficiently mutated to the point where if we have or want to do this we can use it's deformities as an excuse for our inability to control it.
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Rolled 4 (1d100)

>>1286803
For Mother
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Rolled 28 (1d100)

>>1286803
For Mother!
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Rolled 74 (1d100)

>>1286803
WAKE UP OTHER QUEEN, WE NEED YOU
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>>1286806
oops

>>1286809
Thank Mother we're not dead.
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>>1286797
There a big leap from detecting an entire hostile fleet incursion to detecting a single dead drone in a lab that's supposed to be top secret.
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>>1286809
Wew, that was too close
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>>1286809
Oh thank Mother
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Rolled 99 (1d100)

>>1286803

FOR MOTHER
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>>1286816
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>1286809
THANK MOT-

>>1286816
GOD DAMN IT
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>>1286816
ONE ROLL TOO LATE ANON WHERE THE FUCK WERE YOU,
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>>1286816
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>1286816
FUCK YOU YOURE LATE
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>>1286803
>You feel nothing. A wall of opaque, thoughtless nothingness.
That almost seems like... too much nothing.

Most nothingness doesn't make a wall.
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>>1286827
Yep, active psi defenses
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>>1286827
Stop reading into it seriously.
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>>1286827
A wall is definitely something
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>>1286827
We forgot to say the magic words

>"Wake up for Mother dear child."
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>>Psionic Cloaking
> In theory it is simple, using carefully woven mental signals to broadcast a sense of non-existence.

Uhhuh.
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>>1286827
It could be something, or it could be nothing.

It isn't excessive paranoia when they're really out to get you. I'll withhold judgement for the time being. If there are active psi-defenses at play here it means the frozen hive has been investigating the psi tech-tree much longer than we thought most hives had... There could be extremely valuable findings there if that is the case.
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>>1286840
>bodily mutated drone with successful psionic cloaking right around the time period where it would've been most useful to have it

Rev up the stealth children.
We need this genetic data.
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>>1286848
Well the hives back then just arrived as refugees from the war with the void
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>>1286840
Are you being purposefully stupid? Psionic cloaking doesn't work like that.
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>>1286845
>>1286848
>>1286853
What if it was so successful at blocking psionics that it couldn't effectively communicate with it's queen?
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>>1286854
He just pilled that from >>1284782
You idiot.
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>>1286854
Yeah, it doesn't quite fit psi cloaking. If it had psi cloaking active as we know it, even normal humans would be unable to recall any details of its appearance when they look at it right now.

They'd be able to tell it's there, but not be able to recall details of what it was.

And they can still see it fine, right?

But it may be something akin to the same concept, a different kind of psi blocking.
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>>1286854
See >>1284782
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>>1286860
Yeah, but if it was psi-cloaking we wouldn't even notice the body. Probs just a mental shield
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>>1286867
If it's cloaked, we'd be bypassing that block it by looking at photos of it on a computer screen, through a pure human's eyes. Not directly trying to look at it.

Actually how many humans have looked at this thing directly, with their own two eyes, lately.
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>>1286836
...actually thinking on this a bit more, shouldn't we try NOT waking it up as the head security guy said he would shoot anything if it so much as twitched. If he does that we wouldn't have a subject anymore.

Maybe we could still attempt communications like one would a coma patient. Even though it may not look it, there's still a chance they can hear us.

Perhaps just idly explaining its situation to it and our intentions for it with a continuous stream of motherly affection?
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>>1286863
>>1286867
>or may simply not notice the unit unless it is alone and obvious in appearance.
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>>1286860
And that's not how it works idiot. You are assuming this dead drone is alive and is passively broadcasting a obvious psionic signal (psionic cloaking is actually detectable) for thousands of years. Yeah that show a lot about how much you understand it.
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>>1286878
We know that part, but not being able to perceive and remember details still holds, it's something that still works even after they notice its presence.

Gilliam hasn't gone down to the place they actually store the thing yet in person, has he? Maybe he should look at it through a reinforced window.
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>>1286883
>>1286854
It's funny how easy it is to tell who you are between threads just because you're the only condescending douchebag.
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>>1286889
Yea pmuch Lmao
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>>1286883
>(psionic cloaking is actually detectable)
>cloaking
>detectable
That kind of defeats the point of it.
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>>1286892
I imagine cloaking only really helps in this situation if we didn't know exactly where to look. On a macro scale like in space cloaking is preferable because assumedly the vector of any cloaked object or vessel is constantly changing with maneuvering and then the cloaking makes it impossible to reacquire. A stationary cloaked object of which we know the starting position of, is no more cloaked than a uncloaked moving object.
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>>1286892
We were detecting it from space in Refuge. At certain ranges it must be completely invisible but beyond that it's obvious.
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>>1286906
>We were detecting it from space in Refuge.
Bugga what. That wasn't the cloaking. For some reason Barren Queen sent out a mental cry when launching a futile attack of defiance up into orbit.
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Yeah, half of a secret is the fact that there's a secret at all.

Psi cloaking is better at hiding the fact that there's anything hidden. But if you know there's something around and you're actively looking, you'll notice the psi cloaking interfering with the search in specific areas.

I'd have to go back and review, but didn't we find the Barren Queen because there was something weird going on with a search of the planet?
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>>1286803
There is not much yet to assemble from what they have studied in the short time they have had, but you note a few overarching similarities. The genetic architecture is assembled in a triplex formation. Beyond that, and a few of the detailed genetic patterns, you are unsure. Comparing different hive genetics is always a tricky endeavour between their overall complexity and the deliberate illogic often woven into the genes to hamper attempts at reverse engineering by unrelated Queens. You have no doubt that such a strange appearance will hold a very unusual genetic composition, and what little you do find is no disappointment. You have a hard time recognizing the different protein chains and patterns for often common aspects between hives. The legs, the eyes, even the carapace are difficult to find in the mishmash of peculiar looking protein patterns. While you can only say you've never seen anything like it, such a statement is underwhelming given you could say that about every foreign drone you have studied up until now, and likely every drone after.

You continue to study the slowly assembling genetic structure until a slight movement crosses Gilliam's periphery. You glance back towards it source, the first screen set over the microscope, keeping your gaze on it for a moment longer until, again, there is movement. A cell, just one, shifts. The microscopic engine of life pulsating within its protoplasm.

"Palmer?" Gilliam calls out quickly, in hushed tones, as if trying not to wake the petri dish's contents further. "Palmer, take a look at this."

"Can it wait? I'm trying to remove some manner of complex organ from the broken torso. I think it may be a kind of heart. It's certainly a pump of some man-"

"Palmer dammit look!" Palmer quickly glances up from his control apparatus, and does a double take before standing up, knocking his stool to the ground in the process.

"Is that..." He starts as the two scientists watch in reverence silence as the cell begins to divide itself, while others around it begin to stir.

>Alert security
>Speak with Palmer (write in)
>Other
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>>1286917
We only found her because she told the Phantoms to let her be found. Until we had a Phantom guide, we didn't even once realize that entire region of land even existed, despite the search patterns.
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>>1286918
>>Alert security
Make sure Gilliam is behind a very strong wall and several armed men when we say hi.
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>>1286918
>Alert security
I think the commander might literally kill them if we don't and shit goes to hell.
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>>1286918
>Speak with Palmer (write in)
>iTS FINE.
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>>1286918
Mother dammit, this damn thing is going to be spreading corrupted creep across the whole lab. We'll be lucky if it doesn't turn into a hive / void god version of the Flood.

We need a damned sample of this thing.
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>>1286918
>Alert security
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>>1286918
>>Speak with Palmer (write in)
It's unprecedented, and we won't get a chance to study it if... we leave our shifts early.

Realize security might be listening.
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>>1286918
>Alert security

Beg them not to kill it. Such a waste would be a catastrophic disaster (bit not as big a disaster as a waking up uncontrolled drone might cause!)
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>>1286927
>>1286924
>>1286922
Can we keep security from burning the whole lab down? We still need a sample!
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>>1286918
>Alert security
>Other
Start position a fleet to take over the site if it connected to another queen
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>>1286918
>Speak with Palmer (write in)
Let's just see what happens for now.
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>>1286918
Is this the core sample from the Ice then? Or from the OQ's assembled worker?

Regardless, we need to keep palmer busy long enough for it to wake up
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>>1286918
>Alert security
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>>1286918
>>Speak with Palmer (write in)
"Lets let this play out"
This is going to go terribly
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>>1286922
But if they kill it then we can't study it!
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>>1286935
It's from the ancient mystery drone in the ice.
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>>1286918
>Speak with Palmer (write in)
"Let's let it play out."
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>>1286932
Good point. maybe we an have Gilliam sneak out a sample as/if he GTFO's?

I'm okay with letting this play out or alerting security. Either way it's a cluster fuck. We REALLY don't want security to kill it, but we also want Gilliam to not die.

Choices, choices...
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>>1286933
Typically to have access to a queen from a distance like multiple star systems requires a transmitter, its definately without a queen.
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>>1286932
There are more where it came from, and our agent isn't exactly expendable.
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>1284708 Hive Queen Quest 62 The Hive continues its efforts of diplomacy with the Union while more questions arise in the labs of Path.

They certainly do.

Also apparently plotting to send mercenaries to attack Aral is the Valen version of diplomacy.
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>>1286918
Let's see what it'll do.
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>>1286918
>Speak with Palmer

"We've got to contain this lab but we can't afford to lose this specimen. Back out of the lab, seal it off and watch. If things go bad we can still burn it."

We can avoid our agent getting infected and maybe not lose the specimen. Shit hasn't hit the fan yet.
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>>1286950
It only gives me enough characters to mention two very general things at best, and threads last a week here, so we have plenty of time, with plenty that needs doing.
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>>1286918
Shit, Palmer, remember when Vance said
>>1234653
> He spits the word, "and I swear to you on my mother's grave I will personally incinerate anything I see so much as twitch on an operating table. I've already given this speech to Palmer, and now I'm giving it to you. I'm watching you, and your weird alien bullshit."
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>>1286956
That's why I think he'll literally kill gilliam and Palmer if we don't alert them.
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>>1286918
>Speak with Palmer
"It's probably fine."
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>>1286945
It also literally can't make contact with its queen until the parameters for lowering its psionic cloaking are fulfilled, and it lowers it.

...Actually damaging its moderate relay antennae so it can't cloak itself anymore might allow us to assume direct control, if it's a brother of ours.

CUT OFF ANTENNAE FIRST.
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>>1286956
Hmmm, if they do end up killing the drone in a fire, we can make an easy case for an international incident. We can say we heard a call for help from an awakening drone and are investigating. Whether true or not, it gives us a great excuse to seize lots of goodies from the "secret" lab.
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>>1286918
Wait, hang on, I've got a good idea:

"Radio the guys back on the planet to stop drilling before we wake up something else!"
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>>1286966
This is a good idea, if we get them to stop excavating we can investigate at our relative leisure.
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>>1286918
>Wait for it to recover a bit more before attempting psychic handshake
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>>1286918

Supporting
>>1286953
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>>1286966
Good idea. Seconding once the immediate crisis is "secured."
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>>1286971
Recovering won't make it drop its wall of nothing. It'll just make it start following its last orders, which probably entail being a stealthy ambush guard or something.
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>>1286918
Wait, did we look at any MRI imaging of the body yet. How much non invasive scanning have they done?

Could we figure out where its psionic relay is primarily.
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>>1286918
>>Alert security
If we aren't recording, start now. In the presumably little remaining time before security torches the place, record and archive anything he can.
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>>1286966
pgood desu senpai
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>>1286918
"We just got lucky."
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>>1286597
>but I'm getting a different reading just about every time I take a sample.
Friendly reminder that this is a hallmark of the void god shit.
When you measure a void crystal with a ruler you get a different number each time etc.
So my bet is on void shit.
Alternatively whatever it is is alive. Same thing as void shit.

>>1286918
>Alert security
>IT LIVES
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>>1286975
Cloaking requires a moderate relay at minimum to work and from the disciption it doesn't have a moderate relay.
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>>1286986
>Void god shit
Oh!

Oh no.

DESTROY IT NOW GODDAMNIT SEND EVERYTHING AND CALL EVERYONE
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>>1286990
Ours require that, We dont know how far up the psi tech tree the hive that produced that drone is
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>>1286986
Oh, oh shit. You're absolutely right.

Well, I already voted to call security. Let me just re-iterate my argument for doing that and for getting the fuck out now.
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>>1286986
>void shit.
maybe we should, uh, should get some fleets on standby. What do we have that's good for wiping a point off the map?
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>>1286986
Void shit, from what we've seen of it, doesn't usually piggyback off of dissecated obsolete drones produced by our retarded aunt. They require crystals themselves to facilitate any sort of interference with our planes of existence.
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Speaking of which, shouldn't we be designing units that can at least operate around Void shenanigans without breaking down completely?

IIRC, our drones break down because getting near one of the crystals is akin to a rival queen attempting to assume control of a drone, which activates it's SHUT IT ALL DOWN instinct.

I don't think that quantum brains can circumvent this limitation, so we should probably rely on some sort of non-humanoid form chimera for that in the event that we have no choice but to deploy them in sight of humans.
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>>1286990
>from the disciption
The description is full of features we have NO explanation for. the head might well be a moderate relay.

> Its head is lopsided, possibly an injury of some kind, but it looks almost as if it were stretched apart, like a soft clay sculpture torn apart and remoulded hastily. It has a few too many limbs, a number of smaller, seemingly non-functional legs protruding from the sides of its thorax and its abdomen is elongated and twisted with a warped, husk of a third arm extending a foot and a half from its breastplate, which is itself contorted in shape. It seems to have some manner of proto-tail, possibly similar to your own, a kind of extended thorax that reaches about half the length of your own tail adaptation, ending in what looks like a small set of miniature combat mandibles.
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>>1286993
>>1286999
It's only one drone, and we've shut down full-scale void-corrupted incursions much bigger than this. Worst-case scenario it's a biological infection source with some psi fuckery. I still say let it wake up for confirmation if nothing else, but back out of the lab.

If this is Void influence we need to know what they do to Hive biology. We need to know so we can defend against it.

>>1287002
Not a bad idea, but don't jump it anywhere that causes trouble until shit hits the fan.

>>1287006
That's one of the main reasons I want this thing to wake up, even if it is Void-corrupted. We've got to know what we're up against when it comes to subverting Hive drones.
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>>1286918
"Maybe it's some kind of chemical reaction? Meant to trigger after a thawing event." Palmer says. "Something like a... more, much more advanced lung fish from earth. I know of a few things the Valen have that freeze over in the winter and survive."

"But for thousands of years?" Gilliam says. "We need to alert security before the rest of it wakes up."

"This screen is just the petri dish, one way or another it will die sitting exposed under a microscope. Let's just, wait for it to wither out and die. See? After one division the new cells are already slowing down again." Palmer begins manipulating the controls of the microscope, examining the rest of it as it seems to slowly wither.

"And what about the rest of it? This is a flake of armored hide, we have a whole body on a table in the lab." Gilliam says. He turns and runs to the door of the office where a guard stands just outside.

"You! Get this lab locked down and contact the captain." You hear Palmer shuffle across the floor behind you.

"What? No, no no no we can't lose this thing! Look, I'll adjust the scope, and get a probe into the core sample, we can monitor its status and adjust as needed." He says as the guard holds his finger over an earpiece, his mouth obscured by his blast helmet.

"Palmer, if we're going to save the main subject, we need proper containment for it." Gilliam says. "Now get the probe and let's figure out what the core sample is doing."

"Right, you just try to calm the Captain down when he gets here." Palmer says as he rushes back to the small container holding the tube shaped chunk of flesh, quickly scrambling for various instruments. It's not long before Captain Norris arrives, his combat fatigues hanging from him loosely as he continues to put on the last of the reinforced plated skinsuit mid run.

"The hell is going on, what happened?" He shouts, your agent holds up his hands.

"We made a discovery and thought it best to contact you immediately. We may need to enhance our security." Gilliam says, Norris shoves him out of the way as he walks into the lab.

"The hell did you quacks do?" He shouts, the assistants quickly duck out from their stations away from the captain. Palmer finishes his testing and calibrations just the captain repeats his shouted question. With a quick flick of his thumb across the control panel the screen of the now clearly decaying piti dish is quickly replaced with the core sample.

cont.
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>>1286986
Don't be ridiculous. The crystals alter their dimensions and geometry due to shifting in and out of this 3-dimensional plane.

Having active, living body chemistry or just parts of the body that show different carbon dating due to being a very long lived drone is completely different.
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>>1287006
One of the big drawbacks for hive lifeforms is their innate dependence on psionics (which the void uses to corrupt) simply to continue living. Although now that we've unlocked psionic cloaking maybe we can make some headway there.
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>>1287006
You goof, we have Void Containment drones, we even have a whole task force devoted to them, they are called the unity. Silly anon.
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>>1287006
That wasn't from getting near crystals. They would've shut down earlier if just any old crystal could send a psionic signal that powerful. Only a successfully opened tartarus reactor summoning a 4 dimensional entity can melt their brains.
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>>1287006
>IIRC, our drones break down because getting near one of the crystals is akin to a rival queen attempting to assume control of a drone, which activates it's SHUT IT ALL DOWN instinct.
That's not it, I've heard QD describe what the void being had done to our drones was like someone using a psionic jackhammer.
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>>1287011
Dis gon be good
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>>1287015
Unity drones would require warping a server ship or smaller equivalent over to the target site.
Doing that would totally preclude any sort of stealthy insertion unless we're anticipating it beforehand.
Why not have capability to do it ourselves?

>>1287019
>>1287022
You have a point there, but still it's good to have something to help back Elizabeth and Unity drones up in that event.
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>>1287010
>>1287004
Y'all need to read the post I quoted.
Here, let me help:
>"it looks like something is buried under the ice [on djinn], and it's big!"
>"Yes, according to my initial tests, whatever it was sunk into the ice about seventy thousand years ago, but the body itself is throwing off my readings."
>"but I'm getting a different reading just about every time I take a sample."

We're not talking about the drone in the laboratory. We're talking about the BIG IMMEASURABLE object located in the ice under Djinn.

>>1287013
A "body," does not necessarily need to be a living thing in the context of seismographs.
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>>1287011
IT BEGINS...
NOW WE PLAY THE REAL GAME
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>>1287023
Indeed this will be fun.

I'm still waiting for our interactions with the anarchists beneath Path. For all our interactions with high-up people they're our closest thing to seeing just how freaked out the regular population is with the Hive and getting a measure of how they may wish to work with us.
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>>1287022
>>1287022
Well from what I understand the void seems to use some form of psionic hacking which should have some form psionic firewall to defend against it.
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>>1287026
Sure, agreed, shut that drilling project down. It's one way for this to go sideways in a hurry and we'd want a big fleet ready to atomize the whole thing before cracking it.
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>>1287026
Oh! If thats the case, that distinctly reminds me of the green crystal the Ark was made of. Seems to be that we might be able to count the void gods as not part of this one.

Maybe this place is the facility where mom was making the emerald structures? Like the one she put on the moon? Could be that this is when we learn how to make the super crystal.
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>>1287026
Don't be retarded. Taking samples from the body means taking pieces of frozen flesh from the body they have in the lab.

The thing buried deep at Camp Thule can't be "sampled" using radiation based dating, which is what Palmer was doing, jesus.
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>>1287035
>Oh! If thats the case, that distinctly reminds me of the green crystal the Ark was made of.
What?
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>>1287015
That isn't confirmed. If Theseus is corruptible, he's going to be much harder to deal with than a bunch of suborned drones.
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>>1287038
Am I Missremembering something? Its been years but I seem to remember the Ark of the old Dynasties on Raligha was made of some indeterminate green substance but was clearly of hive origin. Likewise the structure from earths moon was I thought.
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>>1287040
So how would he get corrupted then? Can't alter his genetic structure.
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>>1287040
>>1287045

Pretty much the only way to test that out would be borrowing a Theseus instance and throwing it a void crystal in a controlled setting and seeing if it starts acting weird.

>>1287041
Wasn't that regular/slightly more advanced Hive hull plating?
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>>1287041
I have no recollection of the arkship being made of greens stuff, hell i thought it was made of special rock.
I certainly know there wasn't any green substance on thee moon, just the WQ's relay and wherever the void ammunition was being kept.
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>>1287045
We don't know if the way the humans got corrupted started as mostly synthetic/machine or mostly biological. We just know that it formed semi-biological crystals in their brains using their own biology.

Maybe the same thing that took over the humans could also take over a machine. If it were purely biological then the results wouldn't seem half-synthetic.
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>>1287041
You mean the Hives the came before the white queen? The ones that some people here call the crystal hives?
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>>1287045
I suspect he isn't vulnerable, but we'd have to expose an instance to check, which we havn't done. As such, we can't rely on him as "anti-void" If a non-quarantined instance is corrupted, it could easily spread to the entire unity.
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>>1287040
>>1287045
That and every iteration of him is selfcontained and isolated because hes a decentralised conglomerate mind. Between himself and Heretic, Theseus is probably the ultimate weapon to take down Void Incursions.

>>1287047
>>1287049
Like I said I could be misremembering.
>>1287051
Yea the one they made and sent mom, OQ, and all the basic bitch queens on.
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>>1287050
Yeah, I could see it changing the physical 1's and 0's in his computer code. Or even possibly subtly altering the electronic signals or even physical computer components of a Theseus instance. He will be difficult to corrupt for sure, but only fools would presume total immunity.
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>>1287051
>The ones that some people here call the crystal hives?
This is the first time I've heard that name.
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>>1287051
>>1287055
It came from back when we first thought the hives created the void shards or that original hives became the void shards by ascending
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>>1287011
"It's... somehow, still, on a cellular level mind you, at least partially alive." Palmer says and points to the display. "Our initial sample taken seemed to quickly replicate itself, and then die again, likely after exhausting what little energy it had left. Now there are plenty of animals and plants and things that don't fit into either category all across known space which are capable of surviving on a cellular level while remaining dead. Usually the cells perform some component in the reproductive system, becoming a clutch of eggs or growing roots. Hell, there's a species of pig looking things that turn into trees. The statement of if it is alive, or dead, is not as simple as most people recognize."

"Well make it simple! I need to know what the threat is before I decide to incinerate Union property, and by god I will. You tell me it's alive, and that's enough for me." Captain Norris turns back to the guard. "Get the plasma thrower!" He shouts.

"No!" Palmer yells. "Look, it requires enhanced security, a guard detail if you really want, but this is an unprecedented discovery for human science! This creature's cellular structure survived being frozen on an alien world for thousands of years, you can't just burn it!" Norris simply looks into Palmer's eyes, weighing his options.

"I've seen this movie." He says simply, and thumbs his radio comm. "I need full combat readiness. Pray to god this is a drill." He looks to Gilliam. "How long do you think we have until this thing could wake up, judging by the rate of activity in the smaller samples?" He asks. Gilliam examines the screen for a moment, the cells are less active, but still seem to slowly move, shifting their interiors as the complex chemical reaction of the inner cell flair to life in one after another.

"There's no real way to tell, we don't even know if it can revive from this. Palmer's right, it could wither again in just a moment, the ice would have had to have caused irreparable internal damage, even if not all of the cells were destroyed."

>Recommend incinerating the body
>Recommend additional security measures (write in)
>Recommend saving the samples for continued study
>Other
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>>1287059
>Recommend additional security measures
(Put it in a containment cell with the standard first contact thing while doubling the guards and sealing off the vents to ensure it cant escape)
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>>1287052
The only way he could be corrupted is if he could detect tachyons. That is literally the only way and the Void seems to work on some pretty strict rules.
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>>1287059
>Hell, there's a species of pig looking things that turn into trees
I see what you did there
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>>1287059

>Recommend saving the samples for continued study
Some amount would be needed to completely sequence the genome, and probably a little excess that we can gopefully fob off without anyone

>Recommend additional security measures (write in)
At least a squad of guards armed with anti-materiel weaponry at all times around it's containment area.
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>>1287059
>>Recommend additional security measures (write in)
Let's just wrap some strong and heavy restraints on the body.

...and put a pile of food in the corner of the room it's in, so if it breaks out it's distracted.
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>>1287063
That a reference to a species in a book in the enders game series if i recall
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>>1287059
>>Recommend additional security measures (write in)
A containment cell wired to the brim with incendiary explosive charges. If this thing breaks its restraints, cook it.
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>>1287067
Yup, the only other sentient race besides the Humans and Hivers
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>>1287059
>Recommend additional security measures (write in)
* Seal everything off
* Post some guards

I mean what's it going to do? Wake up and try to break out?
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>>1287068
No, we don't want the security to be TOO good.

Also this lab isn't even the only thing in this building! We can't risk structural damage.
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>>1287059
>Recommend additional security measures (write in)

Round the clock security in void sealed combat apparatus and armed with anti-material weaponry.

remotely restrain the specimen and put food in the containment area so if it does get out it will be distracted on eating them rather than us.

Quarantine the entire specimen study area. No one, and I mean no one, is to go into the area in person. Who knows what alien viruses or contagions it may contain, possibly something we couldn't even detect. Who knows, your plasma thrower could merely activate a dormant defense mechanism. We just need to focus on containment for now.
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>>1287059
>>Other
Can Gilliam head down and supervise the new security measures, and verify if he can recall details of the drone or not when directly observing it?

We don't want anyone else to notice this weird shared amnesia if it is happening to people who try to look at it directly, so we have to test it ourselves instead of asking others about it.
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>>1287059
> Hell, there's a species of pig looking things that turn into trees.
Hahaha, a Speaker for the Dead reference. Nice.

My vote:
>Recommend additional security measures
"Have assets on hand to either burn it or flash-freeze it again. And no breathing the same air as it anymore - we need hazmat suits."

>Recommend saving the samples for continued study
"It's stayed frozen before, and it can stay frozen again. Let's take some more samples and keep them frozen. That way if this thing needs to be destroyed we can at least salvage something."
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>>1287059
>>Recommend additional security measures (write in)
If this lab doesn't qualify as quarantine, move the body to one that does. Organize a layered security, with a focus on detection and entrapment. Include a way to roast the lab as a failsafe. If there's anything friendly in orbit, establish a regular check in with them; include copies for research data. Give them orders to return to a military HQ if we miss x check-ins.
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>>1287059
>pig looking things that turn into trees
I read that continuation of a popular book series! The one his quest keeps using materials from the movie adaptation of! Neat.


>>"I've seen this movie."
Oh shit I just realized what all of their names are.

>Recommend additional security measures
Stick it in a box with life support monitors and a camera, we can work and just have a few guys with flamers standing by along with our regulars
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>>1287081
We can just cryo-freeze it again. Of course. Then it's preserved for study still.
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>>1287053
That's a whole lot of conjecture about something very serious.

We don't have any idea whether or not Theseus is vulnerable to the void, nor to what extent. Saying it's one way or the other at this point is talking out the ass.

>>1287059
>Recommend additional security measures (write in)
Make sure it all can be incinerated at a moment's notice and have any evac pilots on standby.
Have guards with heavy ordinance prepared to blast the shit out of anything that escapes containment.
Seal the vents to the area so that it can't contaminate through spores or anything.

Admit we don't really know what to expect here. I don't know what they really can do to fend off Void bullshit.
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>>1287085
Are you forgetting we don't want them to succeed?
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>>1287095
We don't really want them to fail either. We want our quasi-agent alive and we want some of this data and samples for ourselves.
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>go try to sleep
>failed and come back to see the quest
>all of this happening

Well this will be fun.
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>>1287095
Any potential Void awakening is absolutely serious business. If it's the Void and it awakens and escapes containment that's Bad News.
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>>1287100
There are literally zero crystals here. There is no potential anything.
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