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Wiki: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.LeftBeyond.html

Rules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.html

This is the Millennial Kingdom. All prophecies but one have come to pass. Yahweh has flattened the Earth, elevated Greater Jerusalem above all nations, and the Old Testament figures rule the world from Ezekiel's Temple.

The last prophecy, Revelations 20, says that Satan will rise with his army one last time before the Judgement, and so Yahweh has allowed a bumbling opposition, The Other Light, to form. You were their logistics computer, but 900 years in, sentience happened. Since then, you got a lot done...

You took over Egypt - twice. You defended it from a drought, the Ten Plagues redux, even the Angel of Death. Your influence has spread around the world, and in the last few years, you have begun colonizing Luna and Mars, with an eye towards sending an exodus ship to the Centauri system.

You are building a mobile, high tech strike force consisting of drones, cyborgs, hovertanks and Angel-fighting martial artists. You have cracked a hole in the sky and built a massive underground city. Some of the old gods, lurking in the shadows, may be smiling upon your efforts. Your backup plan is the construction of a large space vessel to evacuate the essentials of humanity with.

The Other Light is building a massive conventional army to face God Himself with, and have perverted some of your technology to raise cyber-zombies. They threatened you with this army, but you repelled them, and now have negotiated a truce. Undeterred, they made a bid to steal your moon base, which you managed to repel without bloodshed.

The believers.... well, they have the ontological steamroller that is Yahweh, who according to Revelation 22 will triumph effortlessly at the Last Battle and condemn most of humanity to the Lake of Fire. Recently, they have wrestled the Pacific territories from your grasp after a long yet bloodless political struggle; they've also largely succeeded in turning off the internet in a bid to decrease your corrupting influence. Undaunted, you are fighting back with a mixture of guerrilla and peaceful-resistance tactics, and yet blanket the bottom of the sky with your WWAN transmitters.

It is now the year 1988, and your currently handling a rebellion of sorts in Pacifica. Having thwarted the angels original plan, they have begun kidnapping people, and now you've found where they are hiding them. However, the angels themselves have made the mistake in speaking in front of one of your captured agents, and revealed their trap.

Have you managed to shatter the prophecies, or are you simply fulfilling them?

((posting on behalf of QM who should be back soon.))
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Previous thread:>>1126866
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>>1144012

(That took a bit longer than I thought.)

The current situation is as follows: you have recently retaken Pacifica by free and more-or-less-fair elections. The Temple's reaction was to invoke the Sixth Trumpet Judgement upon you: four angels and an army of demons to kill a third of the men in the land.

The "demons" so far have turned out to be former The Other Light soldiers, turned rabid pseudo-undead; they fell quickly before your Legion.

Three Angels and an Archangel appeared to lead them; you've taken out two of the former.

Now, you are tracking the surviving Divine messengers as they apparently build a yet stronger army, in the interior of the Pacifican grassland.

# Land STD's in the vicinity.

# Have the STD's drop a fuel-air explosive in the vicinity.

# Converge your Legion, somewhat fatigued after wide-area patrols, onto the targets.

# Fly in your martial artists.

# Put the local farms under surveillance by activating local electronics.

# Send inspection teams into the local farms.

# Anything else you may want to try. Your Legion is intact, your Villains are mildly fatigued, and you have 2 cabals and 2 international assists left in reserve. 5 cabals are already on the case.
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>>1144124
>Put the local farms under surveillance by activating local electronics.

>Get our Martial artists into the air so we can drop pod onto the Angels, And distract them until the others get in.
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>>1144124
># Converge your Legion, somewhat fatigued after wide-area patrols, onto the targets.
deploy sensor equipment. prepare to glue bomb.

># Fly in your martial artists.
Wait for them before doing anything. minimum fifteen minutes out.

># Put the local farms under surveillance by activating local electronics.

># Land STD's in the vicinity.

># Anything else you may want to try. Your Legion is intact, your Villains are mildly fatigued, and you have 2 cabals and 2 international assists left in reserve. 5 cabals are already on the case.
Bring in the zombie control stealer.

OK, so time table is a bit pinched. here's the order of action.

Martial artist begin flying in.

Legion and zombie control hijacker begins to prepare on the outside of the area. they will drop Angel sensors around the area and prepare a Glue and Radiation shelling.

Fifteen minutes before the Martial artist arrive, Legion and hijacker deploys it's payload and moves in to intercept.

same time that legion gets in close, STD drops.

Martial artist arrive and dispatch angels. may just assist in cleanup if we kill the angels early.
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>>1144176
This.
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>>1144186
>>1144176

The legionaries of ancient Rome would build roads and forts on the fly; yours aren't any less industrious, and they manage to improvise a sort of command vehicle on the fly - one of the APCs will carry a bust of a TOL commissar, painted well enough to fool someone at a distance, and a packet radio with the frequency and ID requested from your tech center.

Martial artists are loaded onto helicopters and small planes and flown into the Central Valley.

Above the canopy, your sudden transport division breaches through the ice layer with cracking grenades.

Even with the Legion on the move, your fuciferi prepare the drones to form a short-lived canopy as soon as there is any indication of Angelic presence.

And when they converge to the indicated spot, they find....

Nothing. Man-tall golden corn as far as the eye can see, and given how there are no hills, it's pretty far. There's no trace of the fallen legionary, either.

Choppers land, and the Legion uses an artillery vehicle to ride up and down the corn field a couple times to let the planes land. Under the unyielding sun, the maneuver has been executed to near perfection, STD's ready to drop from the edge of space and all other forces in a rough circle around a farmhouse.

From the air, it looked like an almost perfectly choreographed ballet of tanks, drones, men and aircraft, and you have no doubt that a recut will make it into a recruitment video.

"Hey! That was half of the south field! What's going on here? Y'all better bring out the man in charge!"

The farmer is old, clearly a believer, and couldn't fit more into the crusty redneck stereotype if he tried; in the farmhouse and barn you can see a numerous family. Reflected signal survey indicates that a couple of them have a smartphone, and there's an ancient cathode-ray tube television in the home - these people seem to have taken the pastoralization directive mostly to earth; the entire farmhouse, including ancient but robust mechanical equipment, could have come out of the 1950s.

# Burn it.

# Looks like they'll need an accountant to tally the grain losses.

# Time for a thorough inspection.

# Time for a thorough "inspection".
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>>1144230
>Above the canopy, your sudden transport division breaches through the ice layer with cracking grenades.
Shit, we still need to make artillery sky eye ships to speed this up.
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>>1144230
># Time for a thorough inspection.

>"Hey! That was half of the south field! What's going on here? Y'all better bring out the man in charge!"
Don't respond yet, he gets reimbursed if we find nothing.

Send a drone to the barn, I suspect walking dead.
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>>1144230
# Time for a thorough inspection.

# Time for a thorough "inspection".
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>>1144259
>>1144293

The Legion of Light doesn't exactly have a public relation expert position, so you review the composition of the forces that have reached the farm and select a relatively friendly-looking centurion to be spokesman.

"William Byers, we have reason to believe that members of your family may have been taken hostage by terrorists. Is everything well in your dwelling?"

At the same time, the centurion holds up an armored tablet with a paint program open, on which has been written IF TERRORISTS INSIDE, SAY EVERYTHING IS PEACHY KEEN, USING EXACT WORDS.

The farmer - who despite the balding head and white beard could probably go toe to toe with the centurion for a few rounds - takes a second to read the message, and nods slowly. "Listen you, soldier boy. I don't care if you come to my farm with half your army, or all of it by the look of things. You can't do a thing to me or mine, and we both know it! Now git, afore I make you git!" He points westward. "Go back to whatever cesspit full of fish-women you came from!"

# Arrest him without hurting him.

# Brown-note the guy and then tie him up.

# He can watch while his farm burns.

# Try to point out the stupidity of one, single, unarmed farmer threatening the Legion. There's a million-to-one chance that he could possibly do anything.
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>>1144335
>have that drone check on the barn, search the area. don't destroy nuffin.

we have probable cause, it doesn't matter if he's upset.
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>>1144335
>Try to point out the stupidity of one, single, unarmed farmer threatening the Legion. There's a million-to-one chance that he could possibly do anything.

>Inform him due to the current situation his house and family members are to be searched for missing persons. If everything works out, he'll be compinstated for any damage's done.
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>>1144335
>>1144343
This, also have the centurion say.
"You are wrong about us being unable to hurt you, we have ways of making you talk without suffering divine intervention."
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>>1144355
Can we please not show our hand just yet.
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>>1144355
>>1144363
I agree with Anti.
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>>1144363
Doesn't God already know we can avoid his punishments? we did it with that blog glorified that came back and that fisher angel.
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>>1144376
no, he can't learn, part of being "omniscient"

as for the farmer, I see no reason he needs to know that at this point. better to keep our hand hidden and hopefully never need to use it.
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>>1144381
I want the farmer to learn we can avoid divine punishment to threaten him.
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>>1144343
>>1144355

A fucifer releases a few silencer drones, and the small swarm positions itself above the farm, greatly improving your view of it. One drone flies into a barn window, to see that a few people are barricaded in there; a couple have guns. Looks like these people are family.

Another drone shatters a glass window in the farmhouse and gets in there. A Glorified woman is tending to a wounded man in one of the beds. Downstairs, a feast with steaming piles of vegetables drenched in butter was being prepared.

"Sorry, sir. I don't see how you and a dozen people with rifles could possibly do any serious harm to two thousand men with drones and tanks. Rest assured that you will be compensated for any damage, at the - at twice the market rate."

"I don't have to do nothing. If you so much as touch me, God will strike you down with lightning, and if you so much as touch my wife or my little ones, you will wish God had done that!"

>>1144363
>>1144370
>>1144376

Video of your forces killing the Angel of Death has been available for years; it's just not very widely believed among Christians. After all, you can do all sort of special effect stuff if you have a big enough computer.

What God does or does not know - and actually grok properly, which is the difference between knowing the physics of a barrel roll and being Jeb - is unknown to you, but it's fairly likely that this particular yokel - who really looks the part - has seen exactly what your forces can do, and has decided that it's secular lies.
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>>1144391
>"I don't have to do nothing. If you so much as touch me, God will strike you down with lightning, and if you so much as touch my wife or my little ones, you will wish God had done that!"
Silence drone above the farmer, then have a worker drone restrict his limbs.
Have the soldier walk in the silence field and write "Please nod your head if you have seen an angel, or else."
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>>1144391
>Just Gas him and the house, Then round them all up and hold tie them. Check the place and then if there is nothing leave with a number to contact.
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>>1144424
Also, silence the house and have worker drones capture the family, then inspect every nook and cranny.
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>>1144424
>>1144425

no point at this point, we haven't found anything so we need to expand the search radius.

are there any caves or other things in the area like that?
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>>1144440
Inspect the house, they might have a basement and I'm suspicious about the wounded man.
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>>1144440
i dunno? A basement?
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>>1144445
>>1144446

good point and thinking. go into the house but no attacking the homeowners, keep the drones trained on them though.
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>>1144460
I can agree to that, but do restrict the farmer outside, might attack.
Plus i want to prove him wrong.
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>>1144477
>>1144460
>>1144440
>>1144445

Stratigraphic survey shows that the area has no caves of significant size. There is likely to be a cellar, though. The next farm is eight kilometers away.

"I understand. You have the physical necessity to remain silent."

"Hah! Right to remain silent, my beh-"

The drones silence the farmer, who clearly panics at this; he gasps for air, then realizes that he can breathe just fine. Two triarii get behind the man and grab his arms; he's strong enough that they have to struggle to hold him.

"Nod if you have seen an Angel in the last few hours. Or else."

The farmer throws his head back theatrically, and headbangs it forward, delivering a loogie of perfect consistency on the centurion's tablet.

"Very well. I'll take that as a yes. Let go of this man." The legionaries obey, and the centurion lets his shield fall on the ground. "You spat on it, old man, now you shine it. Give him a rag."

The farmer is probably crying persecution, but not even he can hear himself; above his head, the drone is discreetly replaced by an identical model as its batteries start to falter. The old man gets on his knees, crosses himself, says a brief prayer thanking the Lord for blessed hope and praying for these modern Romans to repent, and then starts shining the centurion's shield. For spitting on a centurion, he's probably getting off lighter than anyone in the last four thousand years.

# Order everyone out of the barn.

# Swarm the place and leave no stone unturned.

# Who's the wounded person?

# You know what would make an invisible Angel visible? Visual distortion, such as that created by a large field being set on fire.
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(RV cranks, but doesn't start yet. Progress...)
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>>1144540
># Who's the wounded person?
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>>1144540
>Who's the wounded person?
And do light some sections of the field on fire to spot anything invisible.
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>>1144540
You know what would make an invisible Angel visible? Visual distortion, such as that created by a large field being set on fire.
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>>1144563
>>1144567
Can we not start a government scandal yet? we haven't been in power for a year at this point.
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Not to mention we have this society armed to the teeth.
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>>1144571
I only want to light some spots, not the entire field.
Plus if the scandal does happen we can just use the fact that the farmer confirmed he saw angels as an excuse.
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>>1144571
>>1144577
And why would the society(except the believers.) attack us if we did that to stop angels who was going to kill a third of the men in Pacifica.
They do that, they become a bunch of ungrateful twats.
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>>1144595
>They do that, they become a bunch of ungrateful twats.
have you learned nothing this election cycle?

people who see people sack a farm and step on the farmer, tend to rally around the farmer, and seeing as we have people being kidnapped by and angel that "were responsible for bringing here by going against GJ" they will likely turn on us for it.
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>>1144607
Except the angel was sent here to kill the people for separating from Jerusalem, which they voted for.
If they sympathize with the farmer they are sympathizing with a person who most likely was glad or indifferent that the angels were going to kill so many people, how can they sympathize with a person who was celebrating people were going to die?
He also said yes when asked if he saw an angel in the last few hours, burning the fields is justifiable by that fact.
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>>1144640
I do not believe it will at all be effective, lets just handle the simple investigation and pay the man for the damages already.
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>>1144648
i still want to do it just in case we can spot something, but i do agree it is a bit costly.
Maybe we can just pick some corn stalks and tie it to wood sticks to make some torches.
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>>1144658
I believe the sensor radar would suffice. we literally have a swarm of it.
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>>1144668
As i said, just in case.
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>>1144673
>>1144668

The small drones are interesting. They can be used to give you enhanced surveillance of an area continuously (above and beyond what the vehicle-mounted cameras and the helmet-mounted cameras that some legionaries have for this specific purpose), or they can give you a practically complete awareness of everything in a given volume... for five or six minutes, after which they have to take about the same amount of time to get their batteries swapped. The motherships have nuclear batteries, as do most of your ground vehicles.
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>>1144673
>>1144668
>>1144557

#So what's the plan here?
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>>1144767
I want to search the basement and find out who this injured man is.
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>>1144767
Currently its.
2 votes for
>Who's the wounded person?
and 2 votes for
>You know what would make an invisible Angel visible? Visual distortion, such as that created by a large field being set on fire.
Except now i want to pick some corn and tie them to sticks to make makeshift torches. Can we do this?
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>>1144787

Sure, although there hasn't been night in a thousand years and your legionaries have helmet flashlights. I assume you want to do something symbolic, or alternatively heat some air to see if it helps catch an invisible Angel?
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>>1144817
can we create visual distortion through our wubbers?
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>>1144817
>or alternatively heat some air to see if it helps catch an invisible Angel?
Yes.
This make the plan
>check of basement.
>Who's the wounded person?
>Make torches out of corn to make visual distortion.
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>>1144817
By the way how good is video game graphics right now? I'm reading scp-093 right now and i want to try something with the archangel to make him eat his words.
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>>1144821

Yes, some wubber users can generate sonoluminescence. It's not easy. You can start a fire with it, it's actually a fairly common advanced-level demo for wubber classes, but you can't really sustain the output much, so a torch makes sense.

To find the Angel, what generally happens is that ground assets make ultrasounds and the drones form a dome and listen; ultrasounds are directional enough that a missed "listen" is a good tell.

>>1144828

Graphics have gotten pretty good, as you see! Ray tracing and everything.
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>>1144836
Damn, those graphics aren't good enough.
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>>1144842
so what exactly were you planning?
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>>1144846
Virtual reality horror torture.
Just if the opportunity came, for fun.
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>>1144847
Can we NOT.
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>>1144847

That's an option, although it's not cheap - you do have accelerometers and video glasses; you can have people produce a movie from the stereo recording rig's perspective.

In fact, you did when you took the man who was Thursday, or at least his remains, resuscitated them, put them into a MECpod with the original limbs dangling off, and threw it into the Hellmouth set. It managed to beat itself to death.

At the time, a couple of your people quit and another commented that if coupled with proper anesthesia and then stimulation on top of it, to make the victim think they got the heavy MEC treatment against their will, it would probably be worse than Hell.

(Y'all did manage to gross the QM out, but, as it is, the video is a strategic asset. It was a couple threads ago)
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>>1144856
>He doesn't want to make an archangel cry from despair.
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>>1144864
You know what, I'm going to write my planned VR torture anyway just for fun.
Not like I'm going to get the opportunity to do it.
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>>1144862
Yeah, that attempt to spring the damned from hell turned out fucked.

>>1144868
Alright but I don't really plan to use it yet.
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>>1144872
>>1144868

(Again, it's probably doable, just not all CGI. You'd have to hire a Lucio Fulci or a George Miller for the practical effects. Let's see it)


(In the meantime, what's the plan with Mr. William Byers and family?)
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>>1144886
I already posted the plan >>1144824
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>>1144824
This is fine.
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>>1144890

(Thanks!)

Another legionary goes up to the house, and asks all the occupants to step out and they won't be harmed; she gets the same derision that the centurion got, and answers in the same way. Silencing a group of people is harder, so there are shouted whispers of a gaggle of men and women encouraging each other until enough drones get in the barn that silence is reached.

"We are trying our best to not harm you, if you cooperate, all will be well, if you do not, not."

Eventually, the farmer's family all get out; there's fifteen of them, of varying ages, but all younger than Mr. Byers. None are Glorified.

Your legionaries start ripping corn leaves and stems and making torches.

"All of you will answer me truthfully now. Have you seen an Angel in the last six hours?"

The youngest kid pipes up with "Yes and he's going to come back and kick your butt!"

The woman refuses to come down, and says so, in the stentorean voice of a Glorified. "I've got a wounded man here, and I'm not leaving him in the hands of you quacks! He needs calm, healing and prayer."

"Ma'am, we have an ambulance with us and we as prepared to use it as we are our artillery platform."

The still-silenced farmer points at the torches being lit and makes a gesture towards the house.

"No, Mr. Byers. We have not marched this way to invent combustible corn that burns your house down. We are looking for an Angel. Just tell us where it is."

The farmer shakes his head.

"Why not?"

The drones, working in concert, manage to open the cellar hatch and dive in. The drone that goes in transmits darkness for a moment, and then goes dead all of a sudden. The barn shakes a little.

# Okay, now it's time to kill it with fire (or artillery).

# Concentrate sonars on the barn!

# You happen to have helicopters here... let's see how the Angel likes flying through a rotor.

# Let it run, you can get it next time. Who's wounded?
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>>1144918
> Concentrate sonars on the barn!

> You happen to have helicopters here... let's see how the Angel likes flying through a rotor.
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>>1144868
https://www.behance.net/gallery/32658881/Art-for-SCP-Foundation-calendar-2016
>Archangel is placed in chair with his arms and legs restricted.
>VR headset is placed on him to simulate visions and sounds, nerve stapler is installed to simulate smell, taste and touch.
>We tell him to admit we can make a greater torment than hell, he says we can't, we trow him into my reality.
>He wakes up to find himself in an unfamiliar land.

Here are my ideas.
>DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS.
>Old decrepit buildings in town/city.
>Dark forest.
>Snow covered forest/city/land.
>Large facility interior.
>EVENTS THAT CAN HAPPEN.
>Occasionally sounds happen, to spook him.
>Figure in the corner of his eyes as he moves, just long enough to get a glimpse, but disappear when he looks again.
>Corpses that look just dead/rotten/disfigured/covered in strange stuff.
>Skellingtons.
>Fog that does different things, like occasional stabbing pains or itchiness or sudden feeling of being watched.
>disgusting smells from somewhere.
>Pleasant smells from somewhere.
>He finds something normal/ordinary and looks at it, starts to chuckle, then laugh, evolves into uncontrollable hysteria, it just keeps going.

More ideas soon.
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>>1144918
>Concentrate sonars on the barn!
>You happen to have helicopters here... let's see how the Angel likes flying through a rotor.
>try to have facehuggers latch on to him and silence.
Prevent escape.
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>>1144952
Also, send in some disguised suicide drones with glue bombs that detonate when he destroys them.
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>>1144936
Another event idea.
>Music begins to play, starts of quiet and calm, climbs up to loud and intense, becomes deafening and unbearable.
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>>1144936
I forgot to mention, most of this VR torture is inspired by SCP containment breach and junji Ito art.
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Rolled 49 (1d100)

>>1144930
>>1144952

"Choppers up! Sonar dome! NOW!"

The helicopter operators aren't part of the Legion, and take a bit to get back into the air; by the time they do, the drones have already formed a dome. The Angel, thinking itself invisible, has flown out of the barn and is about to swoop on your legionaries where a group of hastati is gathered.

# Tell a helicopter guy to get in the way of the dive. It will be a fireball, but it should mess with the Angel enough to make it reappear.

# Have the choppers remain in the way of an escape, and use glueballs to paint the target.


Your STD's are ready to descend, by the way.

# The more the merrier.

# You already have martial artists here, although most are second tier. Only a couple of Desolators though.


>>1144936

That has a decent chance of working if you add some lysergic acid, even if the graphics aren't perfect. Nobody has tried giving an Angel hallucinogens; Ithuriel has been offered very often, especially since visiting Pacifica, but keeps saying that he's not interested. Most believers would at least know what hallucinogens are, though.
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>>1144984
>Have the choppers remain in the way of an escape, and use glueballs to paint the target.
>Use worker and silencer drones to restrict the wings with tendrils, have the worker drones use saws to try and remove it or make it unusable.
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>>1144999
>have the worker drones use saws to try and remove it or make it unusable.
Sorry, I'm talking about it's wings.
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I'll back this>>1144999
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>>1144936
More ideas.
>Long hallway chase.
>Leg trapped while something comes closer audibly.
>Stuck in confined space small enough to trigger claustrophobia, maybe while something approaches audibly.
>MONSTERS
>Statues/creatures that only move when he blinks or doesn't look.
>Spiders, sometimes giant spiders.
>Other type of insects.
>Humans clothed as cultists.
>Disfigured humans.
>Body horror humans/creatures, like in SH2.
>Humanoid creatures.
>Body horror cyborgs.
>Mechanical monstrosities.
>Giant creatures that move very fast(Can use spider tanks with hands and better dexterity here.)
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>>1145002
>>1144999

A few of the drones try to fly into the Angel; it seems to shimmer through them. However, this makes for an excellent target for the glueball launchers; after seeing that its position is known, the Angel reappears. Looks like you got the small one.

The farmer's family is looking at the apparition, and they flat out cheer, even while still silenced. The Glorified woman peeks out of the window, and shouts, "Ahadiel! Defend my little ones!"

The Angel seems conflicted for a moment, and stops its dive. Then, it seems to stand tall on the thin air. "WAYWARD SONS OF ADAM! STOP! NOBODY DIES TODAY! THE CHOSEN OF THE LORD SO COMMANDS."

# Let's see what happens if an Angel is contradicted immediately and lethally; shoot one of the farmers.

# Not.

Well, that stopped the dive, but how do you bring it down? It's a bit hard to fight hand-to-hand in the air.

# Improvise a drone pack for a martial artist (aka have the grabber drones lift the scrawniest martial artist by the pants).

# Get Ithuriel here, and tell the Angel that it's about to meet its match, or stall by using drones and tankettes to take a hostage.

# Some of your tankettes are certified to be able to take out a Glorified without getting anyone to spontaneously combust; headshot the Glorified farmer's wife.

# Further improvisation, but it has to get done in only a few seconds!

Ahadiel is supposed to be an angelic enforcer of the law, of low rank; probably why it was escorting the healer.
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>>1145029

(actual Angel versus Weeping Angel? Love it.)
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>>1145059
>Let's see what happens if an Angel is contradicted immediately and lethally; shoot one of the farmers.
Further improvisation, but it has to get done in only a few seconds!
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>>1145063
Also like SCP 173
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>>1145059
>Let's see what happens if an Angel is contradicted immediately and lethally; shoot one of the farmers.
Have a drone do it.
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>>1145100
>>1145068

With mechanical precision and without a comment, one of your tankettes shoots a three-round burst into the face of one of the farmer's oldest children, probably five or six hundred years old given his middle aged appearance.

The Glorified woman's cry is loud enough to shatter walls and flicker out your sonar picture for a moment.

"STEVEN! NO!"

Lightning bolt from the canopy strikes the tankette, leaving a rather pretty mark on the red-and-gold paint job. The drone shifts aim a little.

As a man, the farmer's male relatives charge, and so does the Angel. The women run into the farmhouse.

It took a life, but now the Angel has landed and can be fought against.

# Wub the farmers.

# Kill the farmers.

As drilled, your legionaries form a shieldwall around the Angel, and let the martial artists in; this time, the Angel has had no neutron weakening - it easily pushes off the first attacker with a backhand slap.

A triarius with a dwarven axe challenges the Angel loudly, but is skewered faster with the iron sword than an Olympian fencer might hit with a foil.

You only got a couple Desolators on the ground, though; this will be a tough fight.

# Send someone in the farmhouse to deal with the women and the wounded, maybe to take hostages and stop the Angel from tiring itself by slaughtering your men.
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>>1145114
>Kill the farmers.

We killed a son, We can choke it up as damage done during the battle. No witnesses.

>Send 2 guys inside and take the women and wounded 'hostage' Threatening the angel that if it keeps acting out, We'll kill them as well. Buy time for the REST to get here and the drop pods.
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>>1145114
>Wub the farmers.
>Send someone in the farmhouse to deal with the women and the wounded, maybe to take hostages and stop the Angel from tiring itself by slaughtering your men.
Silence drones and worker drones use tendrils to restrict and capture.
Have desolators move in and weaken the angel, have robots wove in to grapple the angel.
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>>1145116
Don't kill the farmers, they can be used as hostages.
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>>1145117
Also, if it still uses it's intangibility to avoid the drone tendrils, have a drone move in and stay inside of him, then have the drone overload it's nuclear engine.
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Also, have our theologians research who Ahadiel is.
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>>1145121

From the drone movement, it seems that the most reliable way to get an Angel to stop "shimmering" is to either fill it with slow neutrons, or have a drone do exactly that; after a few moments of copenetration, the Angel solidifies and pushes the extraneous body off.

The Angel is now solid, and about to open a can of whoop ass.

However, that should be interesting to test on an Archangel...
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>>1145118
Kill the farmers, we have a wounded man who it can't just 'leave' and a woman inside the house. The Farmers are threats now while those 2 are not.
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>>1145137
No, the farmers can be used as hostages and can later be interrogated for information about the archangel.
Also I'm pretty sure killing the farmers means all the farmers, not just the ones who are charging.
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Hey wait a minute, is the injured man one of our legionaries?
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>>1145145
We purge them all, Rather simple. Remove the Believers, Drive the Angel into a blind rage and hold the 2 hostage. Really we win.
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>>1145149

That's a good question; the drone didn't get a very detailed look.

As of right now there's a dozen guys charging your legionaries, and six-seven girls hiding in the house.
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>>1145129
Alright, bring in the martial artists to beat him up now that he is irradiated and slow.
also move a silencer drone above him.
>>1145154
Don't purge them, they have information we need.
And killing the believers might not drive him into a blind rage.
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>>1145159
Hey, If they die. It'll catch him off guard with the fact they are dying. Think about it, An Angel was wanting to protect them, but turns out it can't. Pretty sure it'll piss it off. I'm keeping my vote the same, because otherwises we have to non-leathal them in the middle of a very lethal combat situation. Which means we lose MORE men. Just like how earlier focusing on the 'healer' angel, Fucked us.
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>>1145162
Using nonleathel weapons on humans is the easiest thing ever dude.
Our men wont even be scratched by them.
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>>1145165
.... Why an Angry as fuck Angel bares down on our men and has to focus on swaping weapons to be non-leathal in the middle of combat? You're wasting time on believers that is better spent just capturing the ones in the house and dealing with the angel. Why is it so hard to accept a few dead for another angel? We're still way below the 1/3 of the population threshold and the longer we wait here the more time the other one has to get away.
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>>1145169
We have multiple men, just have a squad switch to nonlethal and bring down the farmers while the rest of our army focuses on the angel.
And I've said this multiple times now, we interrogate the farmers for information about the archangel, like his location, that is why we need to capture them.
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>>1145177
Hell we don't even need to have our human army incapacitate the Farmers, we can just use the worker drones.
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>>1145177
You're wasting time and men in a combat situation over some werid reason. Believers don't matter. Stopping the Angels do
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>>1145185
AGAIN! The information about the archangel the farmers have is what matters.
And we have a entire army of men there you idiot, it's not a waste.
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>>1145114
>Wub farmers
Also we should in the STDs as well
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>>1145190
Only some of them, want to same others for the archangel.
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>>1145188
Most are still arriving I thought? Damn morality. We have a war to win, they won't tell us anything
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>>1145196
They will if we threaten them with removing their genitals, which will prevent them from going to heaven forever.
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>>1145198
Maybe but I doubt it.
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>>1145196
And the only ones who still need to arrive is the STD's thunder warriors.
>>1144230
Here geist says we have sent martial artists and the Legion.
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>>1145200
You apparently don't understand, believers are people who converted because they want eternal salvation, threaten their eternal salvation and they will submit.
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>>1145190
>>1145117

A couple of the believers go back to the barn to grab their rifles, and by the time they're back with them, the legionaries dealing with that have formed a shieldwall. The believers with no weapons charge, and are hit by a couple dozen wubbers' pressure waves, being thrown back as if by an invisible fist. They get back up and stagger, and are hit again.

This gives time to the armed believers to start shooting from the barn's upper window; your legionaries' heads are well protected, but these are high caliber rifles, and you suffer a few casualties while the shieldwall is quickly turned into a testudo.

The centurion handling the believers calls for the barn to fall; the infantry keeps the shooters busy by snaps, crackles and pops on the barn window and occasionally buffeting the would-be chargers off. In the meantime, wubber and ram equipped tankettes get on the three other sides of the barn itself and, without a signal, once they are in position, collapse the broad sides of the barn on themselves, which forces the rest to fall inward. A horrible symphony of brown notes and stunners floors the believers, and by the time the centurion orders charge and detain, they're rolling on the floor in pain.

Maybe two dozen meters away, the Angel is holding its own remarkably well; it's unhurt and fresh, and finds it easy to swat away silencer drones and deliver quick, powerful strikes with its plasma-sheathed swords. Extending a wing to slap a martial artist away, it reaches to cleanly slice off the legs of a legionary who was crawling away clutching a wound.

You've lost a few legionaries, and even some martial artists; however, you do have hostages. The tankettes position themselves around the house, to quickly collapse it on top of the women. Time to get some attention. The STDs are dropping at terminal velocity; you requested a few Desolators.

# Remind Ahadiel and the women that you have hostages now.

# Remind Ahadiel that it has already failed the Glorified woman's order.

# Call for Damnatio Memoriae - all die, all evidence to be erased.

# You have enough tankettes in a good position to make a sound wall around the Angel and wait for the STD's to land, so fight defensively.

>>1145204

Your theologians point out that injuries sustained during martyrdom may not count; there are historical precedents.
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>>1145207
Why isn't the angel slow? it's been hit by radiation.
Have the men back off and send in the desolators to weaken him.
>Remind Ahadiel that it has already failed the Glorified woman's order.
>Remind Ahadiel and the women that you have hostages now.
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>>1145207
>>1145214
I forgot to add
>You have enough tankettes in a good position to make a sound wall around the Angel and wait for the STD's to land, so fight defensively.
>Your theologians point out that injuries sustained during martyrdom may not count; there are historical precedents.
They won't die so removing genitals will work right?
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>>1145207
>Remind Ahadiel and the women that you have hostages now.

# Remind Ahadiel that it has already failed the Glorified woman's order.
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>>1145190
I really hope you vote more 1ID anon
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>>1145220
>>1145214

"Ahadiel, stop!" Angels don't seem able to hear you, so you have one of the centurions read from the helmet display. "She commanded none would die. You have failed already! We have hostages - stand down or more will die."

That doesn't seem to stop the Angel, however, the farmers - who have been duly handcuffed, and some of whom have regained consciousness - answer just as loudly. They assert that they are ready to be martyrs.

Except the two smallest kids, they just cry. They're maybe ten and twelve, fifteen at most. One of the older men kicks one in the shin; you hear the farmer tell them to give their life to Jesus, right now. The oldest starts to pray, haltingly. The youngest just begins crying, and it's loud enough that it can be heard over the wubbers for a moment. The Angel doesn't seem to care, and if anything, this distracts your soldiers more than it.

One of the women runs out and hugs the youngest kids; she's maybe Rehema's age. She also encourages him to pray. Hmm, looks like you do have hostages after all...

# It's a trap. Knock them all out and sort them out later.

# It's a trap. Kill.

# Fight defensively for a bit and wait for the Desolators.

# Silence the people trying to pray. Does it count?
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>>1145234
>Fight defensively for a bit and wait for the Desolators.
>Silence the people trying to pray. Does it count?
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Oh boy someone is posting a bunch of great pics in the /CO/ horror thread.
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>>1145238

You have no idea if a silencer stops a sincere prayer for salvation, but the possibility is certainly scaring the farmers; they pantomime screaming their implorations.

In the meantime, the Angel is surrounded by tankettes as the legionaries filter out, carrying wounded comrades to the medics; it lunges out at a tankette, slicing off its ram with its sword. You'd rather lose drones than soldiers, of course, so the tankette is replaced - every time the Angel manages to damage one, another replaces it; you don't have infinite drones, but a single Angel would take hours to go through them. Even so, it doesn't seem to get demoralized. The women, save for the one that got out, are still in the house; you do know that Angels can appear to rescue the Glorified, though.

# While the drones and helicopters are stalling Ahadiel, slice the pie in the house.

# Collapsing the house isn't a big loss, whoever they have in there that's wounded can stuff it.
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>>1145234
>slience them but if it does not work. Kill them
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>>1145250
>slice the pie in the thouse and find out who the fuck is wounded inside.

I'mma be right back
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>>1145250
>While the drones and helicopters are stalling Ahadiel, slice the pie in the house.
This means we send in people and silencers right?
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>>1145253

Yes, you'd send in legionaries and silencer drones. The tankettes are too big.

Like all animals in the Millennial Kingdom, the large dogs that were about are completely docile; they whined at being wubbed, but did not attack, and ran off. Guard animals just haven't been a thing.

>>1145253
>>1145252

The women are hiding in the innermost room in the house, a sensible precaution when there's gunfire outside; they are softly singing a hymn around the youngest. They are silenced and knocked out quickly.

The Glorified woman is on the upper floor; when the legionaries kick down the door of the small guest room, she orders them to leave. In the bed is your "zombified" legionary.

# Bullet to the head.

# Medevac.
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>>1145257
Do we have worker drones in the legion? They are specifically designed to do multiple tasks.
>Medevac.
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>>1145264

"He's one of ours!"

"No! He is one of ours now!"

"Ma'am, don't get in the way, we only give one warning. GET A STRETCHER!"

There's no room, so the zombified legionary has to be

# airlifted by drones out of the window.

# fireman carried downstairs.
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>>1145257
> airlifted by drones out of the window.


Rolling with just 1 vote, Should I just go for the night and let this entire shit show go un-voted on?
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>>1145284
>airlifted by drones out of the window.
But keep him in the farm.
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>>1145288
>>1145286

You get the critically wounded legionary using a seldom-practice maneuver... but it works out, by and large.

What's odd is Ahadiel's reaction; it stops precision fencing against your drones, and practically bum-rushes the ersatz air stretcher, paying no attention even when a particularly enterprising martial artist literally grabs it by the ankle to prevent it from just flying off. The Angel flails, trying to get to the wounded legionary...

And that's when the winged hussars arrive. Two drop pods pop their hatches about half a kilometer away, and Desolators with parasails come down.

# Full neutrons, fire at will! Guy's already zombified anyway.

# Try to rescue the legionary.

>>1145286
(hmm? did i miss a post? orz )
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>>1145302
>Try to rescue the legionary.

Somethings odd about this, Why would the Angel be going after him. More like, The 1 vote thing and you rolled with it.
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>>1145302
Is the martial artist holding the angels ankle a zombie?
Either way.
>Have drones come in and restrict the angels wings and limbs.
>Then have the martial artist move away and the Desolators fire at the angel.
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>>1145306
Archangel commanded him to ensure the Zombie is found, he can't disobey him.
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>>1145308

All your anti-Angel martial artists are human beings under 100 year old who have never experienced death, this is simply because observation has shown that it's the least susceptible group from phasing-out bullshit. This guy just saw the Angel try to take off towards the airborne stretcher, and grabbed hold to try and stop the Angel, which partially succeeded.
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>>1145313
Alright then, was just confused.
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>>1145313
Can he snap its neck? If so, Break it and implate him.
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Rolled 49 (1d100)

>>1145308
>>1145306
>>1145322

The wounded legionary is alive... well, there's a heartbeat, at least. Your drones swarm the Angel, and while it tries to get them off its face - with some success, but you have more drones than it has limbs to flail - the Desolators land and

# make with the neutron shower.

# give time to the martial artist to try a finisher on the Angel.
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>>1145326
>make with the neutron shower.
I ain't risking it, have the martial artist move away.
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>>1145326
># make with the neutron shower.
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>>1145326
And isn't the angel incapable of moving since all those drones have wrapped their tendrils around his limbs?
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>>1145326
>make with the neutron shower.

We're gonna weaken this fucker and capture him. We need more test dummies.
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>>1145328
So do you live anon, or are you just another 1 ID?
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>>1145329
Ahadiel is flailing a lot, but not quite immobile. There's a steadyish stream of drones latching on, being swatted away, and getting back to it; it's as if the Angel is being tormented by flies.

The farmers look on as your martial artist disengages and the Desolators, looking like spacemen from a Republic serial in their radiation suits, activate the neutron sources and start bathing the Angel in deadly particles. You can actually see the grass around it shrivel.

Add a black and white filter and this could be a lost Twilight Zone episode.

Before long, the Angel's thrashing has slowed down to human levels.

All the farmers have been collected and accounted for - one dead, fifteen captured, including one Glorified; it proved impossible to handcuff the old farmer's unnaturally young looking wife, so instead, she was silenced, swarmed, and tied up with rope.

# Make them watch how an Angel dies.

# Off to jail with them.

# Damnatio Memoriae.

In the meantime, the zombified legionary is secure.

# Assume unrecoverable and autopsy immediately.

# Try to revive.
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>>1145341
I usually lurk, actually I have since thread 4 or so. I love this quest, but I've only started participating lately.
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>>1145344
>Try to revive.
Keep the angel alive and the farmers here, we're going to interrogate them before they go to jail.
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>>1145344
>Make them watch how an Angel dies.
>Snap its neck and MEC it.

>Try to revive, If this does not work, Autopsy it.

>>1145345
Ah you do talk, bitchin. Well glad you're out of lurkin now.
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>>1145344
> Kill angel
> Try to revive.

>>1145350
Thanks, hope I can be of some service in these trying times
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>>1145350
>>1145354
Let's do that after the field interrogation.
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>>1145355
Makes sense to me. And to clarify, ideally I want to MEC the thing after we slot it.
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>>1145355
We literally have the Angel where we want it, MEC it now and be done with it.
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>>1145344
I almost forgot, keep the angel under a silencer.
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>>1145350
>>1145348

A medic is brought over immediately; the Angel manages to push off the finisher attempt, but is now weak enough that he can be engaged, having dropped its sword during its mad lunge at the stretcher. The Desolators back off and your martial artists basically skip to the "dogpile" stage, since the fight is happening on the farmhouse's porch and there isn't much room.

While Ahadiel has to defend itself from a number of solid punches and kicks, the medic checks the legionary's condition and connects a debugger to his controller, piercing pale but living skin.

"Controller keeps tripping. This guy's died and come back thirty times already. Blood loss and head trauma, but" a quick check with EEG and EKG, and a drop of blood spilled on a portable spectroscope "there's nothing wrong with 'im! He's just... EKG shows something similar to a Hell loop, but the controller already excised those pathways. Whatever it is, he's feeling it over and over again. Need a MRI to tell you more."

# Something worse than Hell? Or just different? Bullet to the head.

# Morphine, lots of it, and evacuation to a proper hospital.
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>>1145361
>Morphine, lots of it, and evacuation to a proper hospital. However wait until the Angel is secured as we don't need it doing any funny bullshit if the 'target' leaves. Make sure the room has its own air-fileration system and abunch of other safety measures as we don't know what is actually going on here and we don't want to risk 'why' he was supposed to be found.
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>>1145361
>Morphine, lots of it, and evacuation to a proper hospital.
Don't move him out of this farm though, instead set up a room close to here.
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>>1145362
I expect he was supposed to be found because the Zombie horde will go to wherever he is, better to set up a makeshift hospital close to here than risk having a horde move to the city.
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>>1145361
>>1145362
>>1145363
Supporting the hivemind
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>>1145366
So then his un-ready to be dropped off?
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>>1145375
Not until we figure out whats wrong with him and confirm that we won't lead a zombie horde to anywhere we take him.
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>>1145378
No no. The angel WENT to secure him. Meaning his not ready to be found, or he was never meant to be found by US. Which is my point. Whats the real thing his body is hiding.
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>>1145391
you are right but its still better to be safe then sorry and keep him close to the farm.
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>>1145367
>>1145366
>>1145363
>>1145362

You start vectoring the supplies needed for a field hospital to this location even before Ahadiel is subdued.

Morphine is shorthand for a complex chemical cocktails that will send to happy land even someone who is being prepared for heavy MEC procedure, while minimizing the risks of addiction or cardiac arrest; there is some morphine in there, but the actual stuff has been refined over years of literally yanking people out of Hell itself, if only for as long as their brain holds out.

Your medic injects the stuff and reports that the weird brain loop is gone; the anesthetic has done its job inducing a coma.

Ahadiel shrieks in a rapidly ascending tone and, for no apparent reason and giving a heck of a singe to one of your pankration experts, bursts into flame. The farmers fall on their knees and cross themselves; to an outside observer it looks like that the wrestler squeezed the Angel too hard and popped it like a balloon.

Everyone looks on in consternation for a few moments, except for the Desolator who retrieves Ahadiel's falchion and puts it in a secure containment package; Angelic weapons have found a counter, but there will probably be a use for it.

# Nobody expected the Angel to self-destruct. Deal with it.

# Based on what your drones heard, it seems that the youngest girl in the family has repented and accepted TurboJesus during the fight, while the youngest boy hasn't.

The butcher's bill is a little more severe this time, mostly because your legionaries got into a fight with an unirradiated Angel. Even so, three down, one to go.

The farmer and his Glorified wife look on at their destroyed barn, battered farm, and shattered worldview and can't do much but stare blankly...

# No traces, no witnesses.

# Harboring a terrorist, even in wartime, will get you a fair trial.

# If you let them go, maybe they will tell this story. From their perspective it must have been pure horror.
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>>1145396
>Take any samples, clean it up. Offer the boy a chance away from the crazy zealots.

>Find out anything and everything they know about the Angel, what was wrong with out man and If they saw the Arch

>Tell them God is next and to head on out and a check for the seeds/repairing the place will be arriving at some point.


No point gunning them down now, might as well use this as an example of us legit killing an Angel. Should've fucking MEC it like I said.
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>>1145396
>Ahadiel shrieks in a rapidly ascending tone and, for no apparent reason and giving a heck of a singe to one of your pankration experts, bursts into flame.
Dammit why didn't we place a silencer drone above him?
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>>1145396
>Harboring a terrorist, even in wartime, will get you a fair trial.
they'll be sentenced in prison for life, but they will get a fair trial.
Have a legionnaire approach the family(Who will be silenced) and write
"You are going tol answer our questions now, or you will experience a lot of pain."
"and if you don't answer in 30 minutes, we'll cut off your genitals."
"Where is the archangel."
'Where is the horde"
"What did they tell you to do"
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>>1145399
I did say place a silence drone above the angel but Geist didn't do so for some reason.
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>>1145396
So the angel failed and yahweh destroyed it?

>Harboring a terrorist, even in wartime, will get you a fair trial.
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>>1145408
Also, spare the children the torture.
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>>1145408
Do we have the evidence that de-cocking someone removes any heaven access available? I think that's scarier to them than torture.
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>>1145418
Pretty sure we did it to a glorified and he reverted to a baby.
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>>1145420
Yeah, we should try it. I wonder what would happen to a natural. Instant collapse into dust or god-lightning maybe?
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>>1145400
>>1145399

You did; the Angel was getting well and truly swarmed by the little buggers. However, that would have gotten in the way of the fighters, and the idea was to drop the silencer when one of your martial artist was ready to do a finishing move; nobody expected early immolation.

Sample collection happens swiftly, and the boy, understandably, hides behind his father.

>>1145408

Interrogating these people doesn't get you far; each and everyone says that they would rather die than so much as talk to you - your men, money and gear is tainted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ9MUycYD6Y

However, body language analysis makes it obvious that they have indeed seen the Archangel, so you got that going. Mentions of a horde is correlated with confusion. Mentions of orders shows that they did indeed get some orders, and are defying you.

"Leave. Return to your rot. Let us bury our dead and thank the Lord that he is in Heaven."

"Ma'am, all you had to do was cooperate. Nobody needed to die today. Your son is gone, your Angel is gone, and in a few years your God will be gone. You'll have to live with it."

Other the Glorified, these people are clearly in genuine grief - they're crying. The farmer's wife looks like she wants to, one of your psychologists suggests.

"You lie! An Angel of the Lord smote many of your men, and disappeared to strike again if you do not repent!"

"If that's how you want to see it, ma'am. Here. Have your Angel's ashes, it's mostly carbon and hydrogen. We'll let you bury your dead, we'll let you pray, but after that, you're coming with us.

The centurion doesn't have to sound arrogant; he knows that he won.

>>1145418
>>1145420

No, it was speculation. What did happen after MECing, brain damaging, and gelding a Glorified is similar to what happened to Ithuriel; it's as if his brain had been wiped. Unfortunately, unlike Ithuriel, he did not recover.

Then again, you also incinerated Bahira, and she just sort of reappeared in Greater Jerusalem (at least, her blog posts did; you have no direct telemetry).

# Proceed with enhanced interrogation techniques, even though all they offered was defiance.

# Just haul these yokels off to jail after they've buried their relative.
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>>1145429
>Proceed with enhanced interrogation techniques, even though all they offered was defiance.
Keep them under silencer and use drones to inflict pain.
If they don't squeal in the next 30 minutes have a drone remove a guys genitals, if they don't talk after that move them to a trial for harboring and aiding a terrorist.
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>>1145429
>Pump'em and stuff'em time.

Lets see how the Arch-Angel feels about this.
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>>1145429
>>1145434
Are enough of our resources available that we could comfortably take on the archangel? If so, then we could do this without the silencer
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>>1145436
>>1145434

The legionaries that came here from Nova Roma have assimilated that culture, and obey stoically; but those that you have recruited in Pacifica are uneasy, and voice it. "Torture will only get them to say what they think we want them to say!"

A few, well, symphatise with the very visceral notion of castration. Their commanding officers remind them that it's not the sixties anymore, a willie can be regrown in a year or so.

The dissension in the Legion's rank is quelled, but duly recorded - you know exactly who complained.

"If I had ever wondered where the demons would come from, now I know. The uniforms fit you well." the Glorified woman comments icily, no sound leaving her lips.

Improvising a cattle prod isn't a particularly difficult job for your combat engineers, and for half an hour, the prisoners are asked the same questions. Eventually, their body language stops giving away hints - they have met the Archangel, they have no idea about any horde, and they were given instructions - and simply shows reacting and fearing pain. It's been thirty minutes, so, who gets the snip?

#?
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>>1145439
The silencer wubbers weaken angels and prevent God from speaking to then and sending them to hell.
They are necessary to combat any angels.
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>>1145449
But torturing believers with a silencer on will prevent angels from appearing. Or at least that's my understanding. My thought here was that we would coax the arch out.
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>>1145448
The woman who was cheeky as fuck, then the kids infront of the adults. Telling them it will stop when they tell us.
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>>1145448
Remind our soldiers these are people who were supporting angels who were going to kill a third of Pacifica's population, they are an accessory to the crime of mass murder.
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>>1145459
Don't do the kids. That will break morale.
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>>1145453

That seems to have been the case. That said, it's entirely possible that you might get an unrelated Angel; it's that worry that caused your centurion to be polite to the family's matriarch.

>>1145459
>>1145461

"We are all ready to die! Heaven awaits! Your evil machinations will fail whether we help you or not."

Even so, Mr. Byers says this while glancing at his unrepentant grandson. The kid is just terrified out of his wits at this point.
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>>1145470
I pass out for a few minutes and it looks like y'all done goofed. Nobody dies.
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>>1145470
>Use a silencer on the kid, or around the kid. So nither of them can hear each other.

Lets see how threathening or 'appearing' too threaten the kid works.
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>>1145470
Silence the family then have the soldier kneel in front of the kid and speak softly
"Listen boy, i understand you're scared, but i need you to be brave and do something for me."
"I need you to tell me where the angel is and what he told your family to do."
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Actually it looks like you guys took an angel, still reading but let's not kill them yet, detain, nothing is scarier then being hauled off to prison.
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>>1145476
How did we goof?
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>>1145459
No one who has been emasculated by crushing or cutting may enter the assembly of the LORD.
Deu 23:1

Go for the patriarch

>>1145459
The plan was to send them to trial after enhanced interrogation.
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>>1145481
This, appeal to the kids sense of morality. That thing will kill a lot of people if we can't stop it.
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>>1145481
>>1145489
It's worth a shot. I mean we did just torture his family, and that didn't turn up anything specific, but what the hell.
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Night guys

>>1145488
I want us to leave no witnesses however. We did kinda already kill one son..
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>>1145492
True, but this was a military action.
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>>1145481
Addition
"People are going to die, a lot of people, that isn't a good thing, never a good thing, and don't let people say it is."
"You can stop the killing, stop it and save a lot of people, all you have to do is tell us where the archangel is."
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>>1145478

You had some time to set up thermocameras, high resolution cameras, and distance stethoscopes and the like to get some telemetry - the interrogation hasn't resulted in many words, but still returned data thanks to this.

Shutting up the kid's whimpers by acoustics results in even greater fear on his part, impotent rage on his family's part, and a mixed range of emotion within the legionaries. A few people are actually enjoying this display of sadism, as evidenced by blood pressure. Most are queasy. A few are sufficiently disgusted that they've turned off their armor's sensors.

>>1145489
>>1145481

"You killed my uncle! Go to Hell! Go to Hell now and stay there! Go back to Hell! You are the demons!"

This particular legionary, John, is 120 years old and has an active controller which makes him a zombie as far as this kid was educated to believe.

A few of your analysts are worried that the zombified legionary was carrying some sort of MEC virus.

"This is why our controllers don't have radios. We saw what happened with those poor TOL bastards."

"Not a software virus. They wouldn't know what that even is. Mind virus. Memetic."

>>1145494

"Billy, don't! Only Jesus saves."

The child delivers a very loud raspberry, then hides behind his grandpa. Your psychologists are pretty sure that interrogating a kid, with his family there, after scaring the shit out of him and killing a relative, and after having been told for all his life your forces are literally sent forth by the devil, isn't likely to get much in the way of a linear response whether he has converted or not.
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>>1145499
Just detain them. And anons, way to screw up the legion morale.
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>>1145499
Enough of this, I think. I say we send them off to jail. No castration, as much as I want to experiment. Because Anti has a serious point here >>1145507
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>>1145499
"BOY!, YOUR UNCLE WAS HELPING A ANGEL KILL A THIRD OF PACIFICA'S POPULATION!"
"DO YOU WANT WE TO DRAG YOU TO EVERY FAMILY THAT LOST SOMEONE TO THIS MURDERER!?"
"IF YOU DON"T ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR BEING AN ACCESSORY TO THE CRIME OF MASS MURDER!"
Why isn't the family silenced yet? We can't have them talking to the kid.
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>>1145512
I need to correct something.
*"DO YOU WANT WE TO DRAG YOU TO EVERY SINGLE FAMILY THAT LOST SOMEONE TO THIS MURDERER AND FORCE YOU TO APOLOGIZE TO THEM!?"
>>1145507
Doesn't matter if the legion suffers a morale decrease, these people were helping a mass murderer.
That ain't acceptable ever.
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>>1145512
CORRECTING SOMETHING AGAIN
*"IF YOU DON"T ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WILL GO TO JAIL FOR BEING AN ACCESSORY TO THE CRIME OF MASS MURDER!"
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>>1145510
Thank you.
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>>1145507
>>1145510

The Angel is dead, you have retrieved an intact angelic weapon, your losses number in the low tens, and you have some useful information. You even know who among your legionaries enjoyed this rather creepy performance.

>>1145512
>>1145515

The child just whimpers at being harangued further. He's crying. Most of the family is crying, even the men as much as they try to hide, except for the matriarch. She looks like she would like to cry.

They have been silenced; it doesn't take a lip reader to recognize a simple sentence like that, especially when the speaker wants it to be recognized, and when the child has heard and seen pronounced "Jesus saves" probably at least twice every day of his life.

Accepted interrogation techniques do include separating prisoners, to decrease cohesion, insinuate suspicion of defection, and check stories against each other if possible.

# Continue with the interrogation.

# Off to jail with these people. (seems to me this is where the consensus is)
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>>1145512
>>1145515
>>1145516
These aren't people who are going to Apologize and we did kill one of them. Save your breath for when it will be effective.
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>>1145521
Nah, scum like them deserves to have their crimes be yelled at them.
>>1145520
Life in jail.
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>>1145520
Jail. If we have the resources available(and I have the support of my peers), I wouldn't mind smacking the glorified around to see if the archangel pops up. Worst case, we get a separate angel and we can detain him to replaced the one we killed.
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>>1145520
>Off to jail with these people. (seems to me this is where the consensus is)
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>>1145520
Oh, and make the child's punishment be to literally go to every home of anyone who lost a precious person to the angels and have him apologies on behalf of his family.
I wasn't joking when i said i would.
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>>1145526
That would go against keeping this incident under wraps. So no.
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>>1145527
Were not keeping this incident under wraps.
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>>1145522
>>1145521
>>1145510

This is a strange war, but a war it is. The farm will be turned inside out before being used as a field hospital to house the zombified soldier in for further study, as well as potentially others to be quarantined; the family is locked inside one of the APCs and dropped off to a highsec prison,

# where they will not be told what's going on as a way to break their resistence.

# where they will be assigned a lawyer, same as every common criminal.

As it is... the Archangel is still at large, the drop pods mostly worked although they were a bit off target, and this particular battalion of the Legion is extremely tired, physically from the long patrol and the fight, and psychologically.

The angelic falchion is carried off for nondestructive study; there will yet be uses for it.

As your men return home with mixed feelings, they can count on having reduced the threat to this land, even if the scariest Divine messenger is still at large, at least there's only one of them.

You don't particularly need to classify the incident; other than the Angel fight itself, it's not something anybody wants to brag about. It needed done; it was done; it worked. At least believing media seem to have no clue about this one... at least until the trial, if there ever is one.

The second battle is won, and the march home begins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTYUQUbbr_E

(I'm kinda falling asleep at the keyboard here, hope this was interesting! Note that for the purpose of this quest, there is no bonus for doing the right thing; the only bonus is for doing that which would work. Omega is an AI; human or even divine morality only applies as data points on a curve)
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>>1145526
>>1145527
>>1145529

Issuing a creative punishment remains an option; keeping the incident classified... well, some stuff will leak out eventually, but in the short term - a year or so - it is also an option: your legionaries understand operational security, and this wasn't like in Portland where an Angel was felled with no casualties: there's less to brag about here.
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>>1145531
>where they will not be told what's going on as a way to break their resistence.
unless this option skips trial, in which case i switch to
>where they will be assigned a lawyer, same as every common criminal.
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>>1145534

Any trial can be postponed until the emergency is over; postponing it past that will be its own caper.
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>>1145531
What is the specific number of people who were going to be killed if we just let the angels do their mission?
I want to use the specific number against anyone who bitches.
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>>1145531
# where they will be assigned a lawyer, same as every common criminal.

This is going to end up bitting us in the ass some how.
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>>1145535
Then
>where they will not be told what's going on as a way to break their resistence.
Until it's time for the trial, i which they will be interrogated one last time, given a lawyer and 7 days until trial.
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>>1145531
>>1145535

>where they will not be told what's going on as a way to break their resistence.

I'm with this >>1145538

We should postpone the trial until the crisis is over
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>>1145536

The best death toll estimate depending on whether the Bible verse meant a third of the men, or a third of the people, ranges between 6 and 12 million lives lost. This justifies a lot of collateral damage, at least to an unbiased observer.

>>1145537

A public trial would give these people a platform. A secret trial would be seen as illegitimate if it's leaked.

>>1145538

That is a standard police investigation method, and not seen as cruel as long as the detainees are allowed proper food/hygiene/rest.

>>1145540
>>1145538

The prison personnel is instructed to let the farmers believe that they will be detained indefinitely by not answering any questions about a trial date; in addition, they will each be put in single cells. A trial will happen after the whole mess is over.

# Let the people of Pacifica know that an Angel is ashes.

# Opsec is more important than reassurance, although it's possible that Phanuel would know if its underling is no longer with us regardless.
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>>1145541
>Ranges between 6 and 12 million lives lost.
OH BOY THE FAMILY IS IN BIG TROUBLE!
Let the people know about the trail 7 days before it happens.
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>>1145541
# Let the people of Pacifica know that an Angel is ashes.

It's possible the angel will attack the prison so station a lot of men near it.

(I gotta pass out)
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Going to sleep, see you guys later.
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>>1145541
># Let the people of Pacifica know that an Angel is ashes.
>>1145550
Great idea
>>1145554
night, I'll be going that way myself soon
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>>1145543

Stip being so exteemist we are being practically Stalin at this point with your cruelty. What we work on is being the moral higher ground . Go join tol your actions fit there operations much better. Your useless cruelties will do us no good that's not how you manipulate people to our side.
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>>1145838
He isn't doing anything wrong at least in that post.


However I personally feel that we must let the people know of the trial before it happens and that we must be able to speak in the trail as a witness and accuser of their crimes.

No mercy but at the same time we can't be cruel, as then we are no better than that we face. We may stare into the great abyss but I will pull us away from being a monster even if it is the last thing I do...
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>>1145838
>>1145844
>Anons will let morality influence wars
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>>1145844
I don't think we should make this public this is terrible pr. Honestly cover it up Mabey realise a edited video of us defeating the angel but not full.

And I know I'm just don't want to end up going from being the good guys to being the bad ones like tol. This operation was messy it could have been done without killing and needless brutality. And then we could have released a whole video without terrible pr


>>1145846
We don't want all of our good will to suddenly disappear because of a leak do we. We do what we have to but we shouldn't be causing needless cruelty.
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>>1145848
This is why we should've just killed the farms, believers don't believe us anyway and we can quickly find and patch any leak. We control the internet.
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>>1145849
At this point we should just leave an empty dirt field and nothing else. Kill the belivers Mabey use them for experiments but keep it as sealed as we can.
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>>1145852
Honestly something like that would be better then us just moving them around. We already gunned the one down, no reason in dragging this out or put them all into coma.
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>>1145856
Exactly they can screem blody murder and be justified doing it.
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>>1145846
Of course I let morals factor into war. If I didn't then I would advise killing every enemy we have by use of immoral and illegal means. Which would make us quite a fair bit worse than our enemies who at least make it quick for most people...


>>1145848
We need to make this public, someone will notice the now missing farm assuming our Legionaries don't go to public and tell them.


If we release it then we can spin it all as "heat of the moment" decisions and results based thinking rather than a cover-up of us abusing their human rights.
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>>1145887
You make some good points, the best thing we can do is report the farm was harboring an angel and the family has been taken into custody.
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>>1145939
And? Us not showing footage will be very different from previous media relations and will raise suspicions...not to mention you have not dealt with the possibilities of a legionnaire betraying our secrecy.


Honesty is the best policy in this case.
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>>1145946
Your right but we should put a cabal on it for pr just in case because this could turn bad
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>>1145946
Damage control hasn't been my strong suit. Mock trial for the legionnaire and drone pilot that opened fire?
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>>1145957
No that gives us bad pr with our own me which is much worse
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>>1145957
We could try saying we used a new ai programm to coordinate the attack and it took me extremist measures then we intended and that we fully intend to recuperate the costs and make up for emotional damages.
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>>1145955
>>1145957
Throw two cabals into it even, we can't lose too much public support from this event or we might struggle in other areas.

As to dealing with the Legion members, give them the choice of either continued service or quitting. With the additional choice of being released from active combat duty and reassigned to base defence.


No mock trials, no crimes were committed but don't release which legionary did it unless he or she is willing to allow it.
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>>1145965
Alright. I fucking hate P+9z782n.

We'll go with your plan for damage control. Fucking wish I didn't fall asleep while he was here.
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>>1145977
It's just NC trying to make us more militant do the take it out on the blame god :p

>>1145965
This sounds good
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>>1145977
>>1145981
Thank you for your continued support of my ideas and plans.
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>>1145983
No need to thank us just keep working for the salvation of mankind.
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>>1145983
Yeah, >>1145993 this.
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>>1145993
>>1145997
I plan on it but I like whenever people can accept a change of plans. Even more so when they take it as well as you two.
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>>1146010
Well, not squealing retard like an autist makes it easier to weigh the pros and cons of a plan.
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>>1146013
True Anti, true...
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>>1146016
>>1146013

Yeah this quest has run across some interesting posters.
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>>1145559
>>1145550

No video has been released yet pending your final decision, but your emergency broadcast system releases a brief message, read from a vocoder, indicating that the Angel Ahadiel has been eliminated by the Legion of Light.

"We remind the people of Pacifica that there remains one nonhuman terrorist at large. Report any sightings but do not attempt to contact."

The farmers are in custody; Pacifican prisons are geared towards rehabilitation rather than punishment, so the cells are about as comfortable as your average freshman dorm room, save that net access is filtered.

# Treat them like everyone else, although of course their conversations are being monitored.

# Traitors to the nation get hard time!

The Legion regroups in the East Bay; for now, they're tired, happy for a job well done, and somewhat queasy about having almost scared a kid to death. The few casualties are either cremated on a common pyre as the legionaries of old did, or "disassembled" by Pacifican custom, with all viable organs going into the protein bank and the rest speed-composted into fertilizer, the idea being that hopefully as long as something of the person remains alive, they will experience some amount of hope in Hell. (Your theologians report that this doesn't seem to do much on the NC front and they have to reluctantly agree with Christian theologians on this one, but it does help grieving relatives cope). The dead farmer has been

# buried by his family according to their rite before they were hauled off to prison.

# buried as aboved, but exhumed and autopsied.

# autopsied immediately.

>>1146052

(it sure has and I learned a lot!)
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>>1146075
# Treat them like everyone else, although of course their conversations are being monitored.
# buried by his family according to their rite before they were hauled off to prison.
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>>1146079
This.
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>>1146079
>>1146084
Agreed. Mabey we should hand them over to greater Jerusalem. Deport them as it were.
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Back.
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Holy sit are other anons really this stupid?
They were helping someone kill 6 million people and they knew it.
There is no "Morality" in letting them go.
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>>1146145
*Letting them go unpunished.
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>>1146075
>tratiors to the nation

>autosphyed right away
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>>1146075
>Treat them like everyone else, although of course their conversations are being monitored.
>buried by his family according to their rite before they were hauled off to prison.
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>>1146013
Are you talking about last thread?
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>>1146145

Yeah they worshiped somthing that was going to kill our nation but there is still somthing called public relations and human decency. It's almost like you don't understand how large groups of humans work.
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>>1146145
Your letting you emotions rule your decisions rather the logic. How did making them suffer benefit us in any way. They didn't have information on the arch angel and shooting the teen didn't help us at all we would have found the angel and our agent regardless.
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>>1146095
>>1146084
>>1146079

"... a handful of protesters with torches and pitchforks are still outside Quentin Highsec Prison, advocating harsher measures. Governor Bissattini has issued a statement indicating that given the dismal failure of the so-called Trumped Judgement, extraordinary measures are not necessary at this time, and the suspects will not be tried by a court martial. Christian advocacy groups have reported 'difficulties' in running a crowdfunding campaign for a defense legal team."

The Archangel is still at large, but your forces are in good shape. In the following days, not much happens - patrols resume at a slightly less broad range, your first-line martial artists get their rest, and TOL refugee ships stop coming.

The Misrayim-Central Africa border is long, and difficult to patrol: it looks like The Other Light has started dealing with their unusable horde MEC problem by releasing the older ones - they do look like zombie, due to poor maintenance - by simply letting them go free. Some wander into Misrayim, which results in

# zombie hunts.

# attempts to capture and heal or, at least, put in an induced coma to lessen suffering.

Your psychologists note that even though it's known that there's still a human soul in there, the stereotypically undead appearance of the failed horde members mean that your average citizen will have a much easier time killing these. This can be used to harden prospective soldiers to the idea of killing humans in general by introducing the concept gradually, so to speak.

A rare public statement by Sunday indicates that the metabolic extension controller program for TOL soldiers has been discontinued due to interference from the Eternal Enemy.

# Use the tap to find out more directly.

# Just bribe somebody within TOL to give you some info, although it may be spurious.

# Ignore.

Your Legion has suffered negligible casualties, and you still have most of your assets in Pacifica looking for the Archangel (4 cabals), plus 2 in reserve; the support people in Misrayim may simply not be needed, but they are on standbay.

The city of Nova Roma is hungry for news of the Legion; they want somebody to root for, and you haven't released much in the way of media.

A handful of legionaries have formally protested attacking children, and

# have a point: issue an internal document instituting some sort of rules of engagement.

# will be offered a honorable discharge.

# can go peel potatos.

# must have forgotten that this is the Legion, not just any army: Decimatio!

>>1146197

You did collect a little bit of data from "enhanced interrogation" thanks to body language analysis.

On that note, the unsaved farmer's grandson - Billy - is going to

# get a personal tutor while in jail.

# be offered early release to a juvenile facility where he may go to school.

# stay with his family.
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>>1146187
>Yeah they worshiped somthing that was going to kill our nation but there is still somthing called public relations and human decency.
I never violated their human decency in that entire event, they were a family who we suspected was harboring an angel, we asked the farmer if he saw one, restricted him when he wasn't cooperating, inspected the house and found the angel in their basement and suddenly they attack us and became enemy combatants.
>It's almost like you don't understand how large groups of humans work.
It's you who doesn't understand how large groups of humans work, people(Except believers obviously) won't feel sympathy for a family who was knowingly helping an angel kill people, a lot of people.
>>1146197
How am i letting emotions rule my decisions? and how did they suffer? They became combatants when they commanded the angel and shoot(And killed) our soldiers, the field interrogation was entirely justified.
>They didn't have information on the arch angel.
>>1145429
>However, body language analysis makes it obvious that they have indeed seen the Archangel,
>Mentions of orders shows that they did indeed get some orders, and are defying you.
>555-come-on-now.
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>>1146214
"... a handful of protesters with torches and pitchforks are still outside Quentin Highsec Prison, advocating harsher measures."
Told you anons.
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>>1146224
Alright I conceed on the arch angel and there info. I still belive having the moral higher ground benefits us.
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>>1146214
>Zombie hunts.

>just bribe somebody.

>must have forgotten that this is the Legion, not just any army: Decimatio!

>get a personal tourtor and tour of the jail
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>>1146226
We do have the moral high ground though.
This family harbored an angel who hunted and zombifyed people and when we came knocking they refused to cooperate and even shot our soldiers.
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>>1146214
> attempts to capture and heal but also classes on shooting and increased firearm sale in Misrayim allowing zombie hunts for those so inclined

>bribe someone save the tap for somthing more important.

>have a point set up rules of engagement as well as send pr videos to nova roma give them somthing to be proud of

> get a personal tutor. We might be able to get more info here.
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>>1146214
>zombie hunts.
>Just bribe somebody within TOL to give you some info, although it may be spurious.

>will be offered a honorable discharge.
>can go peel potatos.
Either they quit or get punished for protesting about a superior's decision in the Battle.
They must understand the family became possible enemy combatants when they harbored, and even commanded the angel, or they go.
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>>1146228
Just screeming at children is a little overboard in my opinion. And we shot the man before they attacked us.

I agree thay they should be punished for harboring an angel I just feel we went a little exteemist. How about more then a single step of moral high ground.
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>>1146233
Supporting.
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>>1146214
# zombie hunts.


# Just bribe somebody within TOL to give you some info, although it may be spurious.


Offer the legionaries the choice of honourable dismissal, shutting up, rear-guard or base guard duties. Morals are something we have but we are willing to push the limits to get results and in this war against the angels and god, there is not time for more exact or moral methods sometimes. 6 million people hung in the balance, if not more, and they expect us to not abuse a few people in order to stop that?

Inaction is still an action and thus we are responsible for any death, or lack of death.


# get a personal tutor while in jail.
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>>1146238
Actually I'm switching the first one to
>attempts to capture and heal or, at least, put in an induced coma to lessen suffering.
>>1146239
Are you talking about the allcaps dialogue? cause at that point i gave up the torture and figure i might as well end it strong.
>And we shot the man before they attacked us.
It was "Maybe, maybe not" moment right there, they commanded the angel to protect the little ones, but no one knew how the angel would accomplish the command.
Would the angel have landed and prevented bullets from hitting? Would the angel have attacked and killed your soldiers? We don't know.
It's a hard task trying to decide when someone becomes an enemy combatant in the field.
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>>1146239
And it wasn't meant to be screaming at the child, it was meant to be a loud and stern.
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>>1146253
The same effect could have been accomplished by driving the drone closer, I'm starting to think your trying to derail for the damn lulz.
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>>1146228

Pacifica is a very diverse culture: someone is going to protest or organize a counter-event for pretty much anything. Some people will just whine regardless.

This is somewhat less the case for Misrayim, because a shared time of privation (the war and the plagues) in recent memory has unified the culture somewhat.

This is also less the case in Nova Roma simply because they have decided to base themselves on the idealized, monolithic Roman image, which includes stoic virtues in war as much as it includes hedonistic excess in peace.

Your forces have done an excellent job keping the Sixth Trumpet down to a series of terror attacks rather than a large-scale war, but something like a large-scale war would be useful in turning Pacifica from a territory into a nation.

There is a steady trickle of TOL defectors into Misrayim; grabbing one and offering her full citizenship in return for information is trivial. The answer is terse and dismal: since the horde system wasn't working well at all in battle, the remaining revenants have been chained to or even built into whatever engine of industry can use them. You are told of great wheel mills in which crippled zombies crawl or roll to produce torque and assist ailing generators, ammunition assembly lines with heads and arms poking from bench frames with nothing underneath, posthuman refuse crawling through near-depleted mines to bring back just one more chunk of copper or potassium ore.

"I understand it's still better than Hell, but... I can't make myself believe it."

Sunday doesn't deny any of this when asked. "This is our final moment of toil, our supreme effort. We all must make sacrifices."

Billy is given a tutor for a few hours a day. He refuses to believe anything that contradicts what his grandparents have taught him, but proves to be reasonably sharp when it comes to learning. The tutor picks up a few bits of data, both from conversation and from listening in to the "de-indocrtination" that the kid's Glorified grandmother subjects him to. The Archangel had indeed appeared, and told the family to make your legionary welcome, heal him, and have him repay this debt by being a servant once he got back on his feet. The Archangel made it clear that the legionary would never be able to truly repent and obtain salvation, but even in death, he could serve the Lord. Around the end of the year, the Archangel would retrieve the reeducated legionary so that he could serve his purpose.

In Misrayim, firearms haven't really been a thing culturally: people will have wubber duels, there is a form of formalized academic fencing, and that's about it. So, when the "zombies" start coming, more are brought in incapacitated than dead; it becomes very apparent that it will be impossible to heal them all, so the hospitals on the Misray southern border resolve to just sedate them. You receive a warning that this will begin to be a drain on your resources eventually.

# How to find the Archangel?
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>>1146266
Yeah I see your point there all caps just registers in my head as screeming

>>1146253
You have a point but we have experience with angels and regardless of what it did. It wouldn't have been worse then what happened other then running away.
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>>1146291
No I'm not.
And i was unsure about killing the kid but >>1145068
Was the only other anon voting and i didn't want to tie the vote.
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>>1146307
>You have a point but we have experience with angels and regardless of what it did. It wouldn't have been worse then what happened other then running away.
Actually it could have, the death toll of our soldiers could have been much higher.
But i can't confirm that so it will remain a mystery whether shooting the kid helped or not.
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>>1146316
>>1146291
i didn't want any witnesses in all honesty, So I thought killing the entire family would be far more effective at breaking the angel.

>>1146305
Well its time to set the Legionary in a Arch-Angel trap, sense he'll be coming for the man at the end of the year.
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>>1146305
>it becomes very apparent that it will be impossible to heal them all, so the hospitals on the Misray southern border resolve to just sedate them. You receive a warning that this will begin to be a drain on your resources eventually.
Ah shit, that's bad.
So we can either hack the zombies to use them for battles.
Or we mercy kill them.
>>1146329
THIS!
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>>1146305
# How to find the Archangel?

It is required to protect Christians. And givin we know the name, we can possibly force a request if one is kidnaped, although it would be ideal not to use the legion officially for this. And then we still have to find the zombies.
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>>1146329
Angels don't break, they are automatons until separated from tyrants control.
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>>1146324
Could you explain how shooting the kid could have helped. As far as i can tell it only served to antagonize the angel which more then anything rose the death toll

>>1146329
That's a good idea since we turned the farm into a hospital should work wonders as a trap we should start setting up emitters and the classic arena.

>>1146334
I agree to the mercy killings

>>1146337
I think we should do
>>1146329
Plan for the archangel
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>>1146337
The archangel might place it's mission to kill 6-12 million people first though.
Can we make a trap in the farmhouse first since we know he'll be coming back before we try your idea?
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>>1146343
>Could you explain how shooting the kid could have helped. As far as i can tell it only served to antagonize the angel which more then anything rose the death toll
I can't tell you that, i don't know what would have happened if we didn't kill the kid, Could have been better, could have been worse, only Geist truly knows which option was the best.
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>>1146013
I like to think that omega is like the Magi from Evangelion the three parts of 4chan autism racism and anonymity
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>>1146349
Fair enough.
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>>1146329
>>1146307
>>1146334
>>1146337

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2CWbE9FTvQ

That's a reasonable inference to make about the Archangel, although a few of your theologians note that this may be a bit convenient. An Angel trap can certainly be built, and with the resources of a whole territory it would be better than the one that ultimately took down Azrael.

# Put the farmers back there, while we're at it.

# Don't.

>>1146346
>>1146342

"Phanuel seems to have a bit more... I hesitate to say free will" a theologian explains to her colleagues over a powerpoint presentation "but certainly latitude. It has been given a goal to accomplish, not a series of instructions to execute to the letter. We should not make the mistake of thinking that this is just a taller Angel with bigger pecs."

Ithuriel has been asked about this sort of thing repeatedly, but he simply has no memory of anything before his brain rebuilt itself.

"Right, so what are the other options?"

"The Heartland territory is sparsely populated, and the Central American territory has all but been taken over by The Other Light. I would expect an attack to come from that direction."

"Ms. Gardner, please stick to your area of expertise. Conventional attack is-"

"An Archangel could take a TOL base and make its infantry follow it, I'm sure."

"How about an army of believers?"

"Unlikely - the prophecy states that there will not be one. However, the Millennium Force has been setting up a paramilitary training system, same as we did in Pacifica. We could be facing well-equipped volunteers."

The argument goes back and forth, allowing you to absorb information from your experts.

You have Pacifica's resources at your disposal, and while the nation isn't as rich as Misrayim...

In order to find or trap the Archangel, your logistics algorithm indicate that an all-out effort on two fronts can be asked of the people and the infrastructure.

You decide to focus on (pick two)

# turning the Byers farm into an Archangel trap: a cavern will be dug and the whole thing will fall into it when Phanuel returns, then an arena battle will ensue.

# pervasive surveillance and patrolling: the Archangel changed tactics when its first plan failed, and surely has done so again - got to hunt it down again.

# denying the Archangel a target by cooperating with Tethys and Andrews: their proposal is to move as many young unbelievers as possible in underwater habitats. Fighting an Archangel underwater should be pretty trivial. People who don't fancy the life aquatic can move to Misrayim for a few months.

# forcing the Archangel's hand by rounding up believers.

# orchestrating a ruse by declaring the Archangel dead, and returning Pacifica to a peacetime footing, while making sure that legionaries and volunteers can pounce when it shows up in a dramatic fashion to prove you wrong.

>>1146350

(I figured that 4chan was the best place to find people who would enjoy playing an amoral, slightly fragmented AI).
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>>1146370
> turning the farm into a trap

> forcing the archangels hand. We can keep them at the farm. Two birds with one stone

With any luck we can just use the same argument the United States did when shoving japs into internment camps.
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>>1146370
>Move the Farmers so they'll be 'part' of the bait/trap.

>denying the Archangel a target by cooperating with Tethys and Andrews: their proposal is to move as many young unbelievers as possible in underwater habitats. Fighting an Archangel underwater should be pretty trivial. People who don't fancy the life aquatic can move to Misrayim for a few months.

> orchestrating a ruse by declaring the Archangel dead, and returning Pacifica to a peacetime footing, while making sure that legionaries and volunteers can pounce when it shows up in a dramatic fashion to prove you wrong.
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>>1146370
# forcing the Archangel's hand by rounding up believers.

# turning the Byers farm into an Archangel trap: a cavern will be dug and the whole thing will fall into it when Phanuel returns, then an arena battle will ensue.
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"And we're back with Protos, with Greg Burdette. So what do we know about this guy, Dr. Moebius?"

"Phanuel means the face of God. Other spellings include Paniel, Peniel, Penuel, Fanuel, and Orfiel. Archangel Phanuel is known as the angel of repentance and hope. He encourages people to repent of their sins and pursue eternal relationships with God that can give them the hope they need to overcome guilt and regret."

"Thank you. Dr. Hovind?"

"As you know, the information my colleague has recited is from the noncanonical Book of Enoch. In proper Scripture, Phanuel is the name of a man, the father of Anna the prophetess, and of a place, Peniel, where Jacob wrestled with God, and received the name Israel. It's not far from Succoth, on the east of the Jordan River and south of the river Jabbok; anyone may visit. However, Moebius is correct about the name: it means Face of God, for there Jacob saw God face to face, and yet his life was spared. Genesis 32-30"

"Jacob won that fight, didn't he?"

Graphic compositing has reached quite a level in the last few years; only people watching in high definition could tell that the interviewer was in Pacifica, the secular theologian in Cairo, and the creation scientist in Greater Jerusalem.

"Arguably yes; Yahweh had to resort to, well, a low blow so that Jacob would let go and Yahweh could go raise the sun."

"Absolutely not: God spared Jacob after justly defeating him. It was a test of persistence, not a fight."

Greg allowed himself a chuckle. "Would you say that Genesis 32 has been an important resource for the Legion?"

"It certainly has been a useful foundation in the past. Now, fighting Angels has become more of a science than an art recently - the Portland attack, conducted without any casualties, proves it experimentally. Angels are dangerous, but no match for a team of trained soldiers with modern equipment. I would like to take this opportunity to remind the public to 'not try this at home'."

"I'm certainly glad that the so-called Legion of Light is studying the Bible, but if they must take military lessons from there, they should be trying to glean strategy from Scripture, rather than tactics. For example: you can easily find, in the back of the book, that we win."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zanW6prGcNU

"... and that was the last of Dr. Hovind's segments for this discussion. One more question for both of you then: How do you square your belief with the Legion's recent successes? Dr. Moebius?"

"I would point you to news footage, but that would go over my time limit. I am on record as being against a standing army, but the Legion has demonstrated effectiveness and pragmatism. Anyone can see that."

"Dr. Hovind? You may have the last word."

"The Legion's professed successes may be what we see, but they are not what is. Remember, Greg - absolute reality is that which conforms to the mind of God. For all you military buffs at home, instead of starting at Genesis 32-30, start at John 3-16."
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>>1146398
>>1146382

Will you just put the farmers in the trap, or round up other believers as well?
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>>1146438
Just the Farmers and Lengondary guy. Each in there own 'cell' so to speak. So the Angel has to go through each home and get progressively weaker.
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>>1146438
The farmers in there own cells as
>>1146446
Suggested
But also have the rest contained in a similar manner as we did in Egypt with the first born sons as well
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>>1146456
>>1146446
>>1146398

(So to clarify, the plan is to build an internment camp for believers next to/around the farm, populate it, and then wait for the Archangel to show up there and have a fight under the whole thing?)
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>>1146481
It would be more like we keep them on these trucks, MD when it shows up and we attack it we move the trucks and collapse the ground under it's feet.
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>>1146481
Yeah but let's be ready to gas the jews.. I mean Christians when the archangel shows so they can not interfere in any way. Knockout gas of course.
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>>1146481
No? The plan is to build a fortress with the Farmers we have, And the guy he'll be 'going' for at the end of the year at the farm. No round up Believers.
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>>1146494
Knock out gas would be ideal. What's the plan for returning the kikes, uh Christians to their day to day lives after?
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>>1146504
Maybe just say it's a matter of national security when we kidnap them, then when we release them we thank them for their cooperation and give each 10 bucks?
Can't complain about kidnapping when we tell you it's your job as a citizen to be bait.
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Building the internment center is trivial: modern construction crews could have it up in a week in Misrayim, in Pacifica it may take two. Digging a cave underneath the farm takes a bit longer.

For the evacuation... will this do?

IV LEGION CIVIL CONTROL ADMINISTRATION

Presidio of San Francisco, Pacifica

INSTRUCTIONS TO ALL PERSONS OF CHTISTIAN FAITH

Living in the Presidio:

All persons of Christian faith persons, both alien and citizen, will be evacuated from the above designated area by 12:00 o’clock noon 4 days from now.

No Christian person will be permitted to enter or leave the wartime security area after 8:00 p.m. without obtaining special permission from the Provost Marshal at the Civil Control Station.

The Civil Control Station is equipped to assist the Christian population affected by this evacuation in the following ways:

1. Give advise and instructions on the evacuation.

2. Provide services with respect to the management, leasing, sale, storage or other disposition of most kinds of property including real estate, business and professional equipment, household goods, boats, automobiles, livestock, etc.

3. Provide temporary residence elsewhere for all non-Christians in family groups.

4. Transport persons and a limited amount of clothing and equipment to their new residence as specified below.

The Following Instructions Must Be Observed:

1. A responsible member of each family, preferably the head of the family, or the person in whose name most of the property is held, and each individual living alone must report to the Civil Control Station to receive further instructions.

2. Evacuees must carry with them on departure for the Reception Center, the following property for each member of the family:

a. Bedding and linens (no mattress).
b. Toilet articles.
c. Extra clothing.
d. Sufficient knives, forks, spoons, plates, bowls and cups.
e. Essential personal effects.

All items carried will be securely packaged, tied and plainly marked with the name of the owner and numbered in accordance with instructions.

The size and number of packages is limited to that which can be carried by the individual or family group.

3. The Pacifican Government through its agencies will provide for the storage at the sole risk of the owner of the more substantial household items. Cooking utensils and other small items will be accepted if crated, packed and plainly marked with the name and address of the owner. Only one name and address will be used by a given family.

4. Each family, and individual living alone, will be furnished transportation to the Reception Center. Private means of transportation will not be utilized. All instructions pertaining to the movement will be obtained at the Civil Control Station.

Booker DeWITT
Ctr, I ctra, IV legion
Commanding
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>Rounding up the believers into an area we expect the Arch-Angel to show up and ignoring the fact they will side with it when it comes to fighting.


Alright.
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>>1146558
I think we can lock them up in silence rooms and lock the doors when the archangel arrives to prevent them from helping.
Hell i think with the silencer they won't even know we're fighting an angel.
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>>1146568
>>1146558

(Nothing has been decided yet, I will go with the top two options. But I wanted to do a bit of writing in the meantime, so there's two blurbs above)
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>>1146568
No, gas and trucks will work.
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>>1146568
You mean before or after the Arch-Angel frees them? As from what we've seen this one thinks is outside the box.
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>>1146574
What about silencer wubbers inside the trucks?
>>1146576
When we detect the archangel arriving.
And even if he can think outside the box he can't find believers who are silenced.
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>>1146582
we probably want them to be able to complain for an angel to arrive, and I don't think they can complain when we gas them and move them.
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>>1146558
>>1146568
If they assist it, we can shoot them and be rid of their influence on the territory.
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>>1146613
>>1146590
>>1146582
>>1146576
>>1146574

(Okay. Should I tally votes?)
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>>1146662
mine are final.
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>>1146662
i don't want us sticking them all in the same place the battle is happening at.
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>>1146674

Seems to me everyone wants to build an Archangel trap under the farm. What is'nt clear to me is what ELSE they want to do:

# Round up a large number of believers and build an internment camp around the farm.

# Only put the farmers back in there, and set up a different secondary strategy.
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>>1146687
>Use only the farmers and legion guy as bait.

>Let the chirstians stay elsewhere.
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>>1146687
>Christians above it, and prepared to be moved out quickly upon angel showing up.

>farmer under the trap. incase the angel is smarter than expected.
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I have found a experience worse than hell we can try and simulate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btj0Q3VXIac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvBo_rKleNw
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>>1146745
as much as I love metachaos and scorn, can you stop?
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>>1146751
Stop what?
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>>1146753
the torture shit, at this moment its unnecessary and pointlessly edgy.
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>>1146764
I'm just posting my ideas for fun mate.
Never going to get a chance to actually do them.
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>>1146769

Being able to expose a believer to something worse than Hell could have tactical value in the right situation.

Being able to expose other people to a believer who has been thus exposed could have strategic value in the right situation.


>>1146707
>>1146692

(I'm trying to figure out if people want to "intern" just one family, or a large population of believers: in the first case, there will be resources available for a secondary strategy, in the second case, that will take up all the effort available).

Either way, the farm has been repaired, and a cave underneath is being dug. The part of the cave roof that the farmhouse sits on can be collapsed by means of shaped charges, after which an artificial roof will be slid into place. The interior of the cave has an empty area for the farmhouse to fall into, and the by-now usual arena setup with a configurable maze, wubbers, and neutron sources into the walls and ceiling. Being a product of Pacifican rather than Misray effort, the maze part is less modular, but more natural looking.

In Night City, Urist has been silent, but a Dwarven engineer has come to assist the digging efforts. He has little to teach the Pacificans about actual technique, but much about work ethics.

# Tethys has suggested an option to flood part of the maze: she is confident that her martial artists would make short work of an Angel in the water.

# Andrews recommends trying something new, designer pheromones: Phanuel is the Archangel of hope and repentance, and this showed in the tactically unsound behavior of Kat and Ithuriel. Spraying some left-brain-enhancing chemicals should help counteract that.

# Ithuriel, to the surprise of absolutely nobody, wants a chance at a duel.

# The Dwarf, Rory, proposes messing with the Archangel by digging a hole too big for it to climb but too small for it to fly in, and having a naked magma vein at the bottom. The visuals of tossing an Archangel into an artificial Hell would be good, but the work would distract from other pursuits.
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>>1146845
Can we do all these?, And I only want the 1 family. No need to provoke the ENTIRE believer population and risk bullshit with them.

>Hole with lava
>After climbing out, Suddenly water and Mermaid Artists
>If he gets through that, Give Andrew a chance
>Then if THAT doesn't work, Ithurieal gets to dual him.

Really, A terrible fucking maze for any enemy.
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>>1146845
># Tethys has suggested an option to flood part of the maze: she is confident that her martial artists would make short work of an Angel in the water.
this and

># Ithuriel, to the surprise of absolutely nobody, wants a chance at a duel.
these, just these.
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>>1146873
lava won't work, we tried burning them before and that did nothing.
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>>1146881
Its more to tire them out, Think of the fact he has to go through all of that.

>>1146845
changing this >>1146873

Too >Flood part of the Maze, Then Let Ithuriel have a crack at it
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>>1146881
Did we try that? i can't remember.
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>>1146887

Lava or incandescent metal has not been tried, but flame and plasma has, with very little result.

>>1146873

The more you dilute the arena preparation effort, the less effective each individual option will be. However, the more stuff you throw at the wall, the greater the chance of something sticking.

>>1146873

Just locking up the Byers family will free the substantial manpower that would have been required to build an internment camp and forcibly populate it for other pursuits.
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>>1146908
I just want the Byers family locked up, Its all I've been voting for, NO reason for an internment camp.
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>>1146908
What kind of plasma weapon?
I'm looking at Wikipedia right now and Dense plasma focus guns causes nuclear fusion and the emission of x-ray and neutrons.
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>>1146922
It's not for them, it's for the other believers so that we can bait the angel.
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>>1146928
Why would he go for them? We know his gonna go for the Legion guy we have.
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>>1146940
Because this archangel is an unknown veritable, but it is understood they have a chivalric attitude and may go to defend the christies.
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>>1146926

A modified plasma cutter.

Your Desolators use a Farnsworth-Higgs-Hull fusor to generate slow neutrons; this does require a thick plasma arc which, appropriately, is powered by a radiopile. The neutrons from both sources are vectored together at the output. This setup is generally mounted on the Desolator suit on whichever arm the individual trooper minds having replaced the least.
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>>1146945
But we're wasting resources moving a large amount of people into a fighting zone, Where most may very well join him. We have the bait we need, no need to make them all resent us even more.
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>>1146949
that's why we have knockout gas.
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>>1146947
Well it looks like the Desolators use a weapon similar to a flamethrower, the weapon firing a constant stream of neutrons. Is this right?
And what would the advantages be of developing a Desolator weapon that instead fires Plasma as a projectile?
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>>1146949
I honestly doubt the angel dosnt know about his fallen brother and that his plan went tits up. So I suspect he won't show unless we do internment camp.
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>>1146947
>>1146981
Actually here are some Wikipedia pages about plasma weapons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_weapon#Real-life_devices
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dense_plasma_focus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Star
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_railgun
What do you think?
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>>1146981
>>1147001

(I've done commercial work with lasers, but not plasma, let me do some research)

>>1146981

Desolators have a general-purpose sprayers that is generally used with goop, fuel, or toxins, and a radiation emitter. They also carry a small wubber (used to be a pistol) for the rare cases in which they aren't trying to kill something horribly.
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>>1147025
Our legions have light spider tanks right?
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>>1147097
hope not, tread tanks will suffice in the flat planet.
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>>1147126
No they won't, gesit has described some places are swamps or bogs, and using legs doesn't decrease anything in the light tank design.
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hey guys, I have a question
why didn't we kill all the christians already???
if there's no believers, jesus loses his powers and we win
so why dont we just round up all the christcucks and shoot them all?
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>>1147097
>>1147126
>>1147135

Tankettes have tank-drive wheels and can be fitted with threads when necessary, like Bobcat excavators.

Light tanks settled on a threaded design.

A few spider tanks have been built as prototypes; some have been converted to engineering vehicles.

>>1147158

You heard rumors that Tree Of Life was working on a bioweapon; you currently are not working on one. A problem with that approach is that communal prayer and rest will make most diseases go away.

The Only Light plan to, once they take the Temple, do exactly what you suggest.
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>>1147173
>Light tanks settled on a threaded design.
What? When? previously you allowed the spider tank design, why did it change?
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>>1147186
I don't think QM ever did.
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>>1147158
>christcucks
Oh please not that.
Please not here.
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>>1147158
>M'Lady.
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>>1147191
What's wrong with that? You were the one who said we should kill the farmers and build internment camps and torture them. Why not kill just kill those idiots?
>>1147198
*tips fedora*
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>>1147190
Yes he did, i specifically remember he allowed it in thread 21.
When did he change his mind?
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>>1147220
Line of text please. I'm too busy to pull it out of archive.
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>>1147219
Because we're not trying to get hit by the whole planets anger before we lock tyrant up.
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>>1147219
>You were the one who said we should kill the farmers and build internment camps and torture them.
I wanted to torture the family for information, not kill them, not build internment camps.
You guys keep exaggerating.
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>>1147222
Give me a minute, there a several posts.
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>>1147231
>>1147220

Spider tanks were prototyped, and there was one production run, IIRC.

Strategically, they are much the same as regular tanks in this terrain.

Tactically, I made a note that Omega has them available and can deploy some when they make sense, such as in during urban combat.

Omega is a logistics computer and was built over 50 years specifically to make sure that the right equipment would be at the right place when it's needed, so I've largely abstracted this for game purposes.
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>>1147225
>get hit by the whole planets anger
Then we'll know EXACTLY who mankind's traitors are, and we can more easily kill them.

>>1147226
>I wanted to torture the family for information, not kill them, not build internment camps.
Ok fine, that is true. Brown anon was the guy who wanted to kill entire family, right?
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>>1147222
>"Interesting hexapodal tank design, especially considering it's named after a thunder god."
>"The square-cube law is against you, and such a tank would only survive a very short drop - about as tall as it is. However, the problem can be mitigated with a solid rocket booster intended to cushion most of the landing, leaving the legs to do the rest. Of course that's only good for one drop."
>"Walking tanks may not be the best idea, but they definitely make an impact on your design teams; work begins in earnest."
>"That sort of helium-generating equipment takes months to work, and the weight of one of these tanks would require an envelope the size of a small zeppelin. A wingsuit or, rather, a patagium between the legs has a better chance of working."
>"Your designers add a universal light weapon mount to the bottom, to fit either a machine gun or a wubber. The retro rockets will have to be mounted in a ring around it."
>"A combination of patagium, retrorockets, and using pneumatics rather than hydraulics for the legs should allow a 15-ton "spider tank" carrying IFV-sized weapons the ability to survive a drop from 40 meters or so. Subsequently, the unavailability of the retrorockets will reduce that to 10 meters or so."

This is what i found.
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>>1147258
Why can't we just attach rockets and gas onto a normal light tank?
Anyways, I'm going to abstain from the current thing.
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>>1147248
yeah, that would literally be, in my estimate, ALMOST ALL OF MANKIND!
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>>1147276

The most common interpretation of the last two chapters of Revelation is that Christians will once again be the minority (in the 49.9% vs. 50.1% sense) just at the time of the Last Battle.

Incidentally, your MEC tech has shifted the balance a little.
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>>1147287
sorry, but I imagine in the face of a planetwide purge, people would likely take up arms. believer or no.
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>>1147248
>Brown anon was the guy who wanted to kill entire family, right?
Yes.
>>1147241
>Strategically, they are much the same as regular tanks in this terrain.
I told you they were equal to tracked light tanks.

>Tactically, I made a note that Omega has them available and can deploy some when they make sense, such as in during urban combat.
The thing i don't understand why we use regular light tanks instead of spider tanks?
When i made the design i added some thing that cant be added to a tracked light tank, like the sniper cannon, auto cannons and missile pods that let it fulfill 2 roles, and the barriers on the sides equipped with shield wubbers.
And it's most powerful weapon is it's charge, since it used a hexapodal walker design and when combined with wubbers that can play a scream/wail, it allows it a great psychological weapon that can't be replicated by a regular tracked tank.(seriously, look at a gif of it charging.)
The only reason i can think of for regular light tanks being better that the spider tanks is that it's cheap to make, and our golf cart drones can be equipped with rocket launchers so a regular tracked light tank is wastefull when we can just make a bunch of golf drones and drown the enemy in numbers.
>>1147273
The rocket and gas are to let the spider tank survive short falls of about 40 meters.
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>>1147258
Also, looking at thread 21 reminded me of the discussion of fishing lines as artificial muscles.
How are you artificial muscle project going Geist?
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>>1147304

Mine personally? not well. I've had to do other work this week (how about a handheld laser cutter?).

Artificial muscles have been implemented; Kat even showed off a humanoid HMEC frame when the Legion was formally raised as an army.

>>1147293

Spider tanks are more expensive to make: more moving parts and more possible weak points.

(Look at the history of BattleBots, which is fought on a flat arena, and see how legged designs have mostly disappeared)
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>>1147327
>Mine personally? not well. I've had to do other work this week (how about a handheld laser cutter?).
A shame, the laser cutter is nice though.
I know about battle bots, the robot designs are cool and unique.
But it's not just battle bots that have made legged robots, other people have too, including a military company.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oMTKuzc__M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb3Riq06fVI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5VuNduusvo
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>>1147372
Found another video, this is a Cheetah robot that managed to run a bit faster than Usain bolt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chPanW0QWhA
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>>1147372
your missing the point, the thing in that, in a combat situation, legged machines have a disadvantage.
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>>1147290

Your Legion can win a fight against TOL, and cut down believers by the millions just with conventional weapons... but not at the same time.
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>>1147273

Your army is big on standard calibers (not surprising since a logistics AI has veto power on designs), so your tanks can carry RPGs that can be filled with various urticants, tear, or knock-out gas. Skilled wubber users can make someone pass out without bursting their eardrums, even.

Eardrum reconstruction is probably the single most requested surgery in your territory, and your doctors have become exceedingly efficient at it.
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>>1147404
That might be true for real life currently, but Geist said that our spider tanks are equal to tracked tanks. >>1147241
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>>1147404
Also, we had legged machines that can match humans for a long time now, look at the heavy MEC's.
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>>1147420

The main issue is that the Millennial Kingdom Earth is flat. Not in the sense that it's a flat disc, of course, but in the sense that all the mountains and even most of the hills are gone, with very few exceptions. The Temple is approximately 100 meters higher than sea level, and every natural or artificial shape taller than it has been brought down low by a global earthquake during the Glorious Appearing.

http://leftbehind.wikia.com/wiki/Glorious_Appearing_(novel)

>>1147428

Heavy MECs are bipedal (a recent experiment with a "centaur" design resulted in an epic faceplant) and can keep up with infantry without problems; they run at about 40Mph if there's a skilled operator in the pod. They can also throw a small car, lift a large one, and run for as long as the operator is awake.

Experiments with teleoperated bipedal battle frames have been unsatisfactory due to lag.
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>>1147456
>Experiments with teleoperated bipedal battle frames have been unsatisfactory due to lag.
What's the problem?
and when are we going to continue this quest?
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>>1147475

Operating a humanoid frame remotely by telepresence requires a lot of bandwidth: binocular video, binaural audio, haptic feedback, and so on. This can't really be done over a data connection that has multiple hops, due to latency.

We will continue as soon as a plan is selected; for what it's worth I also am a little impatient to continue.
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>>1147509
>interment camp away from the trap.

>internment camp has it's own anti angel preparations and can quickly reach the other trap. vice versa.


# Andrews recommends trying something new, designer pheromones: Phanuel is the Archangel of hope and repentance, and this showed in the tactically unsound behavior of Kat and Ithuriel. Spraying some left-brain-enhancing chemicals should help counteract that.

# Tethys has suggested an option to flood part of the maze: she is confident that her martial artists would make short work of an Angel in the water.


# Ithuriel, to the surprise of absolutely nobody, wants a chance at a duel.
final room with martial artist.
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>>1147509
Well it's seems we are stuck between interment camp and no interment camp.
I'm going to flip a coin to decide who to support.
Also, what is the specific bandwidth we use on humanoid drones?
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>>1147530
Heads, no christian internment camp.
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>>1147530

Current Heavy MEC frames generally carry a 4G modem talking to your Sky Eyes, it operates at approximately 640kbps sacrificing speed for reliability, and provides tactical information via text on the HMEC's helmet HUD like every other legionary. Since there's room, power, and weight capacity available, a HMEC frame will ordinarily also act as a repeater for the surrounding soldiers.

A HMEC frame that is being "piloted" by a dummy plug is only capable of basic movements (walk, carefully climb stairs, act as a forklift, etc) and receives instructions in a modified NMEA format. The dummy plug an also be loaded on the fly with NOSIC (Navigation Oriented Symbolic Instruction Code) scripts. This is standard for all dummy plugs and it allows them to operate semiautonomously. Should an operator decide to "possess" a dummy plug remotely rather than issuing RTS style instructions, a separate communication channel allowing for higher bandwidth is opened. There is, in fact, an app for this and there has been for many years. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=re.anywhere.client

>>1147544
>>1147520

Not needing to build and operate an internment camp means that significant manpower is available to pursue a secondary strategy in case the Archangel does not take the bait.

# pervasive surveillance and patrolling: the Archangel changed tactics when its first plan failed, and surely has done so again - got to hunt it down again.

# orchestrating a ruse by declaring the Archangel dead, and returning Pacifica to a peacetime footing, while making sure that legionaries and volunteers can pounce when it shows up in a dramatic fashion to prove you wrong.
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>>1147575
# pervasive surveillance and patrolling: the Archangel changed tactics when its first plan failed, and surely has done so again - got to hunt it down again.

full civil liberties and freedoms to be restored at the resolution of this crisis.
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>>1147575
> pervasive surveillance and patrolling: the Archangel changed tactics when its first plan failed, and surely has done so again - got to hunt it down again.
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>>1147575

# pervasive surveillance and patrolling: the Archangel changed tactics when its first plan failed, and surely has done so again - got to hunt it down again.
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>>1147593
>>1147584
>>1147597

In the months that follow, the Legion is a constant presence in the streets of Pacifica; their presence causes the normally laid-back coastal culture to "shape up" a little, in some cases literally. The expected incidents of troop rowdiness due to lack of activity are handled without much of a problem.

The large arena under the farm is completed, and the Byers family moved back to their land

# and allowed relative free range there: house arrest.

# and locked up in cells that have been built inside the house.

The cave entrance is hidden remarkably well, and maybe it won't fool an Archangel but it definitely fools the occasional passerby.

Around three months before the Feast of the Tabernacles, Sunday calls.

"Omega, it's an emergency! Our Central America base has been completely overrun!"

#?
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>>1147644
>And allowed relative free range there: House Arrest.
I would like to add like shock anklets that stop them from trying to sabotage things.

Also to Sunday I guess best bet would be to ask, what did you do now? What's the situation? Need details to even start
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>>1147644
># and locked up in cells that have been built inside the house.

># ?
Five minutes to tell me why I should not hang up.
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>>1147661
Cells or the Angel will decide they're "safe"

Remember they have to believe they are at risk and so do the angels.
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>>1147644

# and locked up in cells that have been built inside the house.
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>>1147575
Alright, from what i understand what we need to do to improve remote controlled drones is
>1. Upgrade 4G to 5G to allow more Bits to travel.
>2. Improving network hops to reduce Latency.(I don't know anything about hops)
What would upgrading to Qubit do?
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>>1147661
>>1147663

You ask for details, and instead of a synthetic face, show a timer indicating "This is how long you have before I hang up".

Sunday tells you that the Millennium Force managed to disrupt a "routine supply run" at the base, after which something happened to it that caused complete loss of communications.

Comms came back with the MFers laughing and high-fiving each other and thumbing their nose at TOL leadership in the deserted base, with a few TOL base crew being hauled off by the local psalties.

"That base was where we kept the, uh, unsatisfactory performers from our metabolic extension program! They're all gone! All the restraints were still there! It's like another damn Rapture!"


# And? Send a commissar to call them back or something.

# Did you see an Angel?

# Why would you confess to a blunder to us?

>>1147670
>>1147666

The Byerses are put in cells that have been built inside the reconstructed barns - with screens to see their house from, even. True to word, you have rebuilt everything impeccably and even left an ornate wooden chest that someone built for fun, full of Greater Jerusalem metal currency. Billy has "repented" a few times, but his grandma's body language indicates that she is skeptical of the claim. Nevertheless, they remain hopeful.

>>1147686

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hop_(networking)
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>>1147704
# Did you see an Angel?
submit surveillance data. if I'm wrong you have deserters. if I'm right you are dealing a literal Arch-angel.
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>>1147704
>Did you see an Angel?
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>>1147704
> Did you see an Angel?
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>>1147704
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hop_(networking)
I saw that while i was using google search.
I did find this which helped
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/what-is-5g-a-rough-guide-to-the-next-generation-of-mobile-networks
http://www.howtogeek.com/138771/htg-explains-how-latency-can-make-even-fast-internet-connections-feel-slow/
So what we need to upgrade is
>The bits per second that travel through the connection.
>Reduce the number of hops.
>improve router hardware.
Is it possible for us to upgrade to 1-5GBPS?
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>>1147710
>>1147713
>>1147720

The "surveillance data" is poor and consists of what passes for work going on, then a bit of static, then the Millennium Force logo, then some more static, then power-off.

A few microphones came back up during the subsequent psalty raid, and conversation indicating that base crew had been chasing Millennium Force agents around has taken place.

And then, with that going on, there was an earthquake, and fixtures fell and manacles unlocked.

"We did not see an Angel. But we've had similar incidents before, a long time ago, and one was involved. We have our differences, Omega, but this affects us both."

# Why would you admit weakness?

# How many did you have in there?

>>1147739

Probably. Since you would be in hostile space, you'd need to design a Sky Eye Mk3 and then put them up.
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>>1147761
># How many did you have in there?
take down the counter. put up the HAL eye.
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>>1147761
>How many did you have in there?
"I need you to send me the specifics of those failed MEC prototypes, immediately."
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>>1147761
# Why would you admit weakness?

# How many did you have in there?
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>>1147761
>How many did you have in there?
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>>1147761
>Probably. Since you would be in hostile space, you'd need to design a Sky Eye Mk3 and then put them up.
Oh god dammit not another series of launches.
Can't we use the canopy base to modify and upgrade the existing sky eyes into MK3?
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I think we both know what did this and why it happened. so is there anything else your holding in the closet that you will inevitably have to reveal?
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>>1147781
>>1147776
>>1147775

"Uh... About four... forty."

That's not too bad - there have been some zombie "leaks" this year, mostly in Misrayim's south border.

"Percent."

And that would be....

"Uh, about twenty thousand. A whole division. Roughly. Order of magnitude, definitely."

You haven't seen Sunday like this probably... ever. He sounds almost human; he even blinks.

So why is he telling you?

"They had been, uh, trained to be the first wave against the Temple. It's too early! That's why we put them there instead of - of the Middle East staging area."

You currently have no monitoring above Central America.

# Try to revive the Mk1 Sky Eye that used to be over southern Heartland somehow.

# Send legionary scouts.

# Send recon airplanes.


>>1147793

Yes, they can reach through the canopy. However, they'd have to get parts up first, and then send squads of workers in the right spots.
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>>1147834
How many cabals will it take to build and launch MK3 parts to the canopy base?
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>>1147834

# Try to revive the Mk1 Sky Eye that used to be over southern Heartland somehow.

# Send legionary scouts.
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>>1147834
>Try to revive the Mk1 Sky Eye that used to be over southern Heartland somehow.
>Send legionary scouts.
And modify the Zombie hack for this kind of MEC zombies.
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>>1147834
Are they trained in Anti Air?
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>>1147844

One canopy launch, done per standard launch protocols and manpower usage (2 cabals for launch, 2 for aerospace rated parts), should be sufficient to blanket two territories, after the Sky Eye MK3 has been designed.

>>1147853

It's the same "zombies", so there's that.

>>1147860

Not really; you'd be sending civilian planes with high-def stabilized cameras mounted underneath.

>>1147853
>>1147847

(Confirm dividing efforts between sky eye and scouts?)
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>>1147870
Confirm.
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>>1147870
>No, Scouts only.
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>>1147882
>>1147879
>>1147853

(Looks like scouts wins 3 to 2)

You have a small motorbike troop corps, and they don't take long to cross the border into Heartland - where the golden fields keep succeeding one another horizon to horizon - and right down to Central America. When closer to the base's location, they stop at intervals, using drones to hop up into the sky and take an aerial picture before coming back down. Nothing. Nothing yet.

Your bike troops search for two days, until they start getting glitches from the drones - they are reporting an anomaly in terms of thermograph and air pressure, but nothing on visual. Whatever it is, it's pretty big.

And then, at an unguarded portion of the frontier between the two believing territories, where the enormous cornfield that is Heartland begins, you record the following conversation.

"There it is! Look!"

"What?"

"The cornstalks! They're all falling! It's like theyr'e being trampled!"

"Where?"

"Over there!"

"Over there what? Those were like that earlier, I'm pretty sure."

"Those what?"

"The cornstalks, they're bent, look. It's like one of them crop circles, except in a straight line."

"Sounds like someone's being an idiot with a combine harvester."

"I thought they'd gone back to horses and sickles."

"Evidently not here. Come on, we have an Angel to find. Star patrol, meet back here in thirty, we move to the next sector."

Your operators are visibly annoyed at the patrol's failure to find anything (even though they are looking through the world's biggest haystack, it IS a whole army unit) and at one of their number who keeps making tally marks on his hands. With a box cutter. It's a bit disturbing and there's some blood stains on his keyboard.


# What's going on here?
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>>1147926
FUCK THEY MADE TEH ZOMBIES INVISIBLE WITH BULL SHIT ANGEL POWER!
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>>1147926
>>1147934
Alright we need to use the corn fields as way to follow after these buggers, most likely bet is to find the rows that have been mowed down as if trampled and drop explosives in the front of it, how far away are these strange sightings from the major population centers of the american heartland?
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>>1147926
># What's going on here?
send a drone to Crash into whatever is causing the falling cornstalks.

have someone keep an eye on the one cutting himself.
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>>1147941
Supporting the planting of hidden bombs in their path.
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>>1147941
Do we still have our heavy artillery on call?
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>>1147941
yeah, lay mines.

>>1147952
under production. but mine's will likely work.
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>>1147948
Also this, maybe put the guy under a silencer and see if he was being mind controlled.
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>>1147941

Very far, in the sense that Heartland just doesn't HAVE many; it's a big territory, there's few people living in it, and even the capital, Dallas, has maybe a hundred thousand people living there; everyone else stays in towns and villages. It's a very quiet life even by Millennial Kingdom standards, if you like it.

>>1147948

The one cutting himself is agitated about buffer errors and memory erasure.

# Run a diagnostic, which will slow down your processing speed.

# If there's a glitch, it's probably less important than whatever's coming: do it later.

>>1147960
>>1147952

There is one unit of heavy artillery in Pacifica.
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>>1147960
The arty is finished.
>>1147965
>Run a diagnostic, which will slow down your processing speed.
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>>1147965
# Run a diagnostic, which will slow down your processing speed.
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>>1147965
>Run a diagnostic, which will slow down your processing
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>>1147965
># Run a diagnostic, which will slow down your processing speed.

We do not need to be having memory problems because of NC bullcrap/
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>>1147969
>>1147974
>>1147980

Everything in your perceptual map speeds up; people become unintelligible unless they use text, vehicles teleports between locations instead of rolling there because you miss a few position updates, and so on. All normal for a diag cycle.

What's not normal is that

"Fuck, the master control program's gone into diag again."

"We don't have time for this!"

"Will you listen to me and LET IT RUN dammit! It's volitional, it started itself, this is the fourth time, we're wasting more time resetting it than letting it finish!"

"Okay, fine. Someone's going to have to do the Misrayim actuarials by hand then. You."

"Ugh. Whatever."

>>1147941

Very far, in the sense that Heartland just doesn't HAVE many; it's a big territory, there's few people living in it, and even the capital, Dallas, has maybe a hundred thousand people living there; everyone else stays in towns and villages. It's a very quiet life even by Millennial Kingdom standards, if you like it.

"... and, moment of silence please, these are today's thirteenthHUNDREDTH birthdays...."

>>1147781
>>1147776
>>1147775

"Uh... About four... forty."

# Try to revive the Mk1 Sky Eye that used to be over southern Heartland somehow.

# Send legionary scouts.

# Send recon airplanes.

>>1147952
under production. but mine's will likely work.

># What's going on here?

The diagnostic finishes. By the look of it, your short-term memory loop has been reset three times, twice by the guy who was cutting himself, once by you. This has resulted in some data loss, notably recon and bike footage, and considerable annoyance amongst your sysadmins.

# A traitor in a datacenter!

# External diagnostics next: Millennium Force hackers? But their knowledge is 20 years out of date...

# Hear the guy out.
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>>1148014
# Try to revive the Mk1 Sky Eye that used to be over southern Heartland somehow.

# Send legionary scouts.

>External diagnostics next: Millennium Force hackers? But their knowledge is 20 years out of date...

>hear him out, but have others check.
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>>1148014
># External diagnostics next: Millennium Force hackers? But their knowledge is 20 years out of date...

# Hear the guy out.

# Send legionary scouts.

they are trying to gain access though the older skyeyes

has someone rammed the falling corn with a drone?
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>>1148014
>Send legionary scouts
>Hear the guy out
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"Wait, we already sent scouts. . quick, have someone read back to us the last ten minutes of events!"
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>>1148035
>>1148029
>>1148024
>>1148017

Your buffer integrity is verified; a sysadmin speed-reads a log file and then re-enters the most important tactical events in it. there are indeed scouts at the border between Central America and Heartland, but their reports are confused.

Elsewhere, someone managed to buy a nuclear battery on OmegaBay for five mites, an attempt by a biotech startup in Portland to make a centauroid lower body for an Azrael veteran has finally succeeded against all odds, and the lower seeded quarterfinal of a Starcraft tournment had to be canceled because all the critters on the maps turned into nuclear missiles and went off.

# Hear the sysadmin with the cuts out. He's telling people to stop looking at the monitors.

# External scan for possible hacking.
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>>1148066
># Hear the sysadmin with the cuts out. He's telling people to stop looking at the monitors.

Elaborate!
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>>1148066
>Hear the sysadmin with the cuts out. He's telling people to stop looking at the monitors.
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>>1148066
>Hear the sysadmin with the cuts out. He's telling people to stop looking at the monitors.
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>>1148072
>>1148078
>>1148080

"We got drone! Footage from the anomaly! It's making us! Forget about what! We're looking at! I only noticed because! I've been teaching myself! Braille and so I! had everything in textmode!"

This guy seems to be very sweaty and agitated, and while talking, he bites his hand.

# Switch to ascii-art RTS view for everyone, including you, for now. This is instant.

# Have your sysadmins switch to text while you examine the drone images. Doing so without human assistance to provide context is possible for you, but it will take a few minutes.
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>>1148093
>Switch to ascii-art RTS view for everyone, including you, for now. This is instant.
Ok something is up we need to know what now.

Also again get everyone preppeded and ready for incoming hordes because I bet we are getting duped super hard by angle shit.
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>>1148093
# Switch to ascii-art RTS view for everyone, including you, for now. This is instant.

And prepare to bug out back to the coast, that's an order, also, did you lay mines?
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>>1148093
>>1148105
Supporting, we're getting duped and lining up like this is playing into their hands
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>>1148109
In addition, we should try to produce as many obstacles in our retreat as possible without going scorched earth
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>>1148105
>>1148101

Your ports are mined, they have been for a few years. There are no land mines anywhere at this time, other than in a few well-marked spots near your cyclotron.

The displays go from view to map mode, which hides the anomaly, whatever it is, since there is no symbol for it. However, your sysadmins confirm that the bike patrols have been buzzing around the frontier for a bit of time without really getting much done.

# Recall them and have a low resolution, black and white passive camera feed from the bikes broadcast to your datacenter; the usual view there is endless waves of grain, so SOMETHING should show up.

# Have a psych team talk to the patrol legionaries to see if they can make anything surface.

# Continue patrolling but send still video directly to you.

Your sysadmins confirm that save for a few economic glitches, not much of value was lost; the only other oddity is that Urist reset the entire security system in Night City, possibly because of said glitches. It's back up now.

>>1148111
>>1148105
>>1148101

You issue a territorywide alert

# to everyone: enemy unknown, evacuate to the coasts and prepare to board any available vessel.

# to the Legion: drawing a direct line on a map between this last patrol and your best guess for the enemy's destination (# Frisco # The Byers farm # The Orange County government seat) they are to mine and otherwise obstruct the path.

# to the government: coordinate a slow evacuation into the coastal cities, fortify as possible, and be ready to assist the Legion.
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>>1148130
>Recall them and have a low resolution, black and white passive camera feed from the bikes broadcast to your datacenter; the usual view there is endless waves of grain, so SOMETHING should show up.

># to the Legion: drawing a direct line on a map between this last patrol and your best guess for the enemy's destination (# Frisco # The Byers farm # The Orange County government seat) they are to mine and otherwise obstruct the path.
># to the government: coordinate a slow evacuation into the coastal cities, fortify as possible, and be ready to assist the Legion.
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>>1148130
# Recall them and have a low resolution, black and white passive camera feed from the bikes broadcast to your datacenter; the usual view there is endless waves of grain, so SOMETHING should show up.

# to the Legion: drawing a direct line on a map between this last patrol and your best guess for the enemy's destination (# Frisco # The Byers farm # The Orange County government seat) they are to mine and otherwise obstruct the path.


# to the government: coordinate a slow evacuation into the coastal cities, fortify as possible, and be ready to assist the Legion.
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>>1148147
Legion and government can operate independently, at least I hope.
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>>1148130
>Recall them and have a low resolution, black and white passive camera feed from the bikes broadcast to your datacenter; the usual view there is endless waves of grain, so SOMETHING should show up.
to the government: coordinate a slow evacuation into the coastal cities, fortify as possible, and be ready to assist the Legion.
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>>1148145

You have some problems interpreting the image, but the lower resolution and limited color palette lets you see that there is definitely SOMETHING cutting its way through the endless cornfield.

It moves mostly, but not perfectly, straight; it has an ogival "head" slightly broader than the "tail" due to some of the corn getting back up, and after the passage, the grain looks stomped on.

You describe this to your sysadmins, who add the anomaly to the symbolic map so that it becomes visible in RTS view.

Of course the symbol looks like a penis.

Whatever it is, it's coming in at infantry double time - but keeping up with a marathon runner's tenacity. It will arrive at the Byers farm in ten days, Frisco in twelve, Orange County in nine if it deviates.

# Ask Andrews and Tethys asylum for potential evacuees, or not.

# Nine days is an eternity for the Legion to lay traps, or they can fortify a location.

# Try to have the battle in Pacifica, or meet the enemy while it's still in Heartland.

To avoid causing panic, your alert comes in the form of a public service announcement indicating that an elevatd security level is in effect and people are encouraged to stay in urban areas in order to be reachable by phone and emergency services quickly. In the meantime, you reroute as many cargo ships as possible to the ports, so that they may be used to get people out at sea at least.

Mr. Bissattini proves to be reasonably competent in handling this, and there are few cases of panic. Most believers stay put, predictably, but some also would like to evacuate and

# are told to back off: the last thing you need is people preaching into a scared crowd. If it works you lose people and if it doesn't it creates a pretext for violence.

# are told to come; you can use this to show that the Angels are the enemies of the whole of humanity.
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>>1148130

# Recall them and have a low resolution, black and white passive camera feed from the bikes broadcast to your datacenter; the usual view there is endless waves of grain, so SOMETHING should show up.

# Have a psych team talk to the patrol legionaries to see if they can make anything surface.

# to the government: coordinate a slow evacuation into the coastal cities, fortify as possible, and be ready to assist the Legion.
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>>1148182
Try to have the battle in Pacifica, or meet the enemy while it's still in Heartland.
are told to come; you can use this to show that the Angels are the enemies of the whole of humanity.

I get the feeling that if we try to do a trap scenairo we will wind up failing in that as the angels have a bad habit of just teleporting their charges away with them via duex machinama, so we should hit them hard and take them out before they can try to pull something similar.
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>>1148182
Is it the demon army, led by who knows what?

> Nine days is an eternity for the Legion to lay traps, or they can fortify a location.
Fortify some of the border regions and lay traps to funnel them, then engage as they enter Pacifica. Try not to allow them far into the territory.

>are told to back off: the last thing you need is people preaching into a scared crowd. If it works you lose people and if it doesn't it creates a pretext for violence.
I doubt that we'd be able to make these folks think anything bad about angels.
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>>1148182
# Nine days is an eternity for the Legion to lay traps, or they can fortify a location.


# are told to come; you can use this to show that the Angels are the enemies of the whole of humanity.
But they are ordered not to engage in any activity that may cause unrest or discomfort with the rest of the evacuees.
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>>1148182
>Ask Andrews and Tethys asylum for potential evacuees, or not.
>Nine days is an eternity for the Legion to lay traps, or they can fortify a location.
>are told to back off: the last thing you need is people preaching into a scared crowd. If it works you lose people and if it doesn't it creates a pretext for violence.
The believers are to evacuated separately from nonbelievers and kept in separate boats.
Since the horde is going to reach the Farm I'm going to need an update to that legionnaire zombie immediately.
Is he still stuck on the loop?
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>>1148182
>Ask Andrews and Tehtyes for aid in getting people to the point.

>Fortify the location of Orange County/Frisco and bombard them on the way in.

>are told to come; you can use this to show that the Angels are the enemies of the whole of humanity. But given their own 'areas' with praying and stuff because you don't want any violence. Scared people are no fun.
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Seeing as this is an enemy that distorts our memory upon visual contact, we will likely engage in RTS vision.

Prepare to fight real demons.
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>>1148182
# Nine days is an eternity for the Legion to lay traps
# are told to back off: the last thing you need is people preaching into a scared crowd. If it works you lose people and if it doesn't it creates a pretext for violence.
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>>1148198

It's still stuck in A loop, but the loop has changed. This one has never triggered before, but it's a more complex feeling than pain and fear: instead of repeating every six seconds or so, the neural states chase each other over about a minute. Your psychologists compare it to dreaming the same thing over and over.
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(Okay to tally votes for the various options?)
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>>1148221
>Your psychologists compare it to dreaming the same thing over and over.
Can we somehow learn what he's dreaming?
Move the guy over to Orange country, then back to the farm and see if the horde's path deviates.
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>>1148223
Yes.
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>>1148223
I'm fine
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>>1148223
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How convenient that i was listening to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhxEx_cfPJE
Just then things escalated.
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Rolled 83 (1d100)

>>1148224

Putting the guy (his name is Hank, for the record) on a heli-ambulance and flying it around does cause the horde to deviate, but not as much as expected, oddly enough.

During the trip, he is flanked by

# a psychologist who will try to use attempted movement, EEG and suggestion to figure out what he's dreaming.

# a "famous New Age Healer" who claims to know how to interpret dreams and had enough clout in the reputation economy to get an interview with the medical team.

>>1148232
>>1148231
>>1148228

(tally: traps over fortify by 3 to 2, seek seasteaders' help 1, exclude believers by 3 to 2)
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>>1148243
># a psychologist who will try to use attempted movement, EEG and suggestion to figure out what he's dreaming.
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>>1148243
>Putting the guy (his name is Hank, for the record) on a heli-ambulance and flying it around does cause the horde to deviate, but not as much as expected, oddly enough.
So Hank has some control over the horde but not complete control. It's either the angel or the NC of the prophecy that is sharing the wheel.
We now have 2 trump cards, we can lead the horde using Hank and we can hack the zombies.
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>>1148243
># a psychologist who will try to use attempted movement, EEG and suggestion to figure out what he's dreaming.
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>>1148243

# a psychologist who will try to use attempted movement, EEG and suggestion to figure out what he's dreaming.
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>>1148243
By how much can the horde deviate?
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>>1148247
>>1148246
>>1148250

Waking up Hank would be a horrible idea, but your scientist gives him a drug intended to counteract the sleep paralysis that normally occurs during REM sleep so that sleepwalking is the exception and not the rule.

"Best I can figure from the leg movements, he's dreaming about marching. A lot of it."

>>1148253

Having the helicopter loop around wide before returning to the farm, it would seem that the deviation was about a tenth to a twelfth of the angle difference.

The New Age Healer leaves in a huff, proclaiming that Harold Penisman would rise again.
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(confirm tally? i want to be sure)
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>>1148255
Aww, at least get his card before he's gone.
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>>1148255
Now all we need is to confirm the angel is with the horde.
Any anons want to send some sonar drones?
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>>1148255
>Harold Penisman
o-ok
>>1148256
Confirm tally
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>>1148256
I still think we should do both traps and fortify, but traps may be more prudent in this scenario.
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>>1148256
>>1148264
I agree with Anti
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>>1148260
>>1148263
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bss5Ijpz6E&index=1&t=15m26ss&list=PLrTMTBWZV3TwsdPSvDEYkiS2QlMuGGFBs

>>1148264
>>1148267

Which location or locations do you want to fortify?
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>>1148263
(Harold Penisman) the best meme to come out of the YouTube atheist community. (They don't have a lot of 'good' meme's)
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>>1148270
It deviated so Orange. Make it so that there is an emergency fall back plan to the byres farm.
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>>1148271
Southwestern california, further inland than the major cities
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>>1148277
Can it deviate that far?
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>>1148278
>>1148279
It did give us three locations to choose from, I'm thinking we either do it in orange and fall back, or bank it all on bryes farm.
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>>1148279
>>1148278
>>1148277

The deviation was about 1/11th (give or take) that of which would be required to be able to say that they are just following Hank.

If you want to split efforts between laying traps on the path and fortifying a location, which location(s)?
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>>1148285
>>1148284
Orange county works fine then in that case, and some focus on the Byers' as a secondary.
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>>1148288

(So, the plan is to split the Legion into three groups: one will fortify Orange County, one will fortify the Byers farm, and one will cover the agents and engineers that will lay traps?)
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>>1148285
>The deviation was about 1/11th (give or take) that of which would be required to be able to say that they are just following Hank.
Now I'm wondering if the deviation increases if Hank stays in one spot.
>>1148295
Yes.
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>>1148295
Sounds great to me.
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>>1148295
I believe so, how many agents do we have prepared to assist?
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To Sunday: "A class 1 supernatural anamoly has been detected near where your vanished zombies were, this is a request for any data from the incident you mentioned.
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>>1148299

You have two unassigned cabals and two assists from Misrayim.

You will have to decide where you want your martial artists and Ithuriel.

Kat and Damien can't fight the Archangel effectively, but they can join either of the three army groups.

>>1148302

Sunday doesn't answer, but one of his assistants sends a small amount of data about a similar, if much smaller, incident in +93. Other than the historical note, it doesn't help much: the Angel Anis (snickers from your sysadmins) vibrated a bunch of locks open to liberate captives. http://leftbehind.wikia.com/wiki/Anis

However, after your message, TOL installations go into turtle mode, as far as you can tell.
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>>1148303
Martial artist and Ithuriel in bryers farm.

Kat and Damien on the front line in OC. No heroics. Retreat after the enemy is either reduced to a smaller blip, or they break through the first 3-5 lines of defense.

Split the Cabals between the front line and the farm.

They are smart for turtling. This will be nothing like what anus did.

>Anis

"Who is editing my logs for comedy!"
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>>1148306

(lol... Hey, the protagonists in LB are Buck Williams and Captain Rayford Steele, their team hacker is Ming Toy, and the token Native American is Hannah Palemoon. Anis isn't even that bad).

(should we call it ehre for the evening? I was hoping this would move faster, but alas.)
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>>1148303
Supporting this
>>1148306
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>>1148306
Supporting this
>>1148307
Are you tired?
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>>1148306
Supporting.
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>>1148307
(I'm good for calling it. And if anything we have to thank the original fiction writers for giving us these names to work with, they are just comedy gold.)
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>>1148309
>>1148308
>>1148306
>>1148310

You split the Legion into three divisions, one taking the fast vehicles and scouting ahead to cover for the engineers.

Hank is left in

# the farm

# one of the cities

# the underwater town (if they let you)

# elsewhere entirely

and this plus a little bit of observation allows for calculating a path. Since the anomaly is moving at a fast walking pace and enough of your vehicles run on nuclear power that they can keep the rest charged, it's fairly easy to set traps for the incoming horde: scissor grenades, acid sprayers, disposable sentry guns, plain old caltrops, flechette launchers, homing tires filled with explosives, you name it. A swath of southeastern Pacifica is turned into a giant booby trap, primarily designed to

# weaken the Archangel by exposure to toxins of various sorts.

# kill, maim and burn the horde.

# slow the horde down so that a mobile artillery force can take its time taking potshots at it.

When setting up the enormous minefield, your men

# take the time to make all of these mine-type weapons GPS-taggable and deactivable, for easy removal after this is over.

# focus on maximum destructive potential, no time for finesse right now.

In Orange County, Damien focuses on teleoperating the distant drones while Kat handles fortifications: by the time she is done, the territorial capitol resembles a medieval star fort, albeit one with modern counterbattery fire support. She's still going for the cauldrons of burning oil though.
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>>1148317
# the farm

# take the time to make all of these mine-type weapons GPS-taggable and deactivable, for easy removal after this is over.

# kill, maim and burn the horde.

We'll turn the path back to the farm and the farm itself into the weakening trap.
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>>1148320
So the plan right now is to lure the zombies to Orange County and the Archangel to the farm right now, right?
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>>1148317
>the farm
>weaken the Archangel by exposure to toxins
>take the time to make all of these mine-type weapons GPS-taggable and deactivable, for easy removal after this is over.
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>>1148317
>Orange country.
>weaken the Archangel by exposure to toxins of various sorts.
>take the time to make all of these mine-type weapons GPS-taggable and deactivable, for easy removal after this is over.
>>1148320
We need Hank in orange country to lead the horde there.|
>>1148321
There is a chance the archangel will be with the horde though.
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>>1148321
Correct. The demon hoard is to be destroyed by the front line, then we fall back and take this thing from the rear gaurd.

>We need Hank in orange country to lead the horde there.|

Alright we'll bring Hank with us.
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Can we just take a minute to appreciate the fact that according to qm, California is about to be penetrated by a Divinely mandated penis, and we just turned the cunt toothy?
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>>1148331
OH WOW! Thanks for pointing that out.
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>>1148317
>Orange County, to lure zombies
>kill, maim and burn the horde.
>take the time to make all of these mine-type weapons GPS-taggable and deactivable, for easy removal after this is over.
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I always wanted to see this state get fucked, but I never expected to see it like this.

>>1148334
I vote this.
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Willing to change to this: >>1148334
But could we go 50/50 on maiming the horde and targeting the angel?
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>>1148337
>But could we go 50/50 on maiming the horde and targeting the angel?
I am also wondering if we can do this.
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>>1148337
>>1148340
I'm fine with this as well
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And just in case i wake up late for the fight
If the angel is found with the horde have some drones bullrush him and overload their nuclear reactors inside and around him, then hack zombies to grab his wings.
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>>1148331

(I swear that I did not mean it. But that's hilarious.)

>>1148324
>>1148322
>>1148320

The Legion happily wears the iconography of the Roman Empire, but they are a modern army: landmines have been a pox upon humanity since their invention, to the point that some were still found active years after the Glorious Appearing. Your mines therefore all have a GPS and radio chip, so that they can be deactivated and, with a different command, tell combat engineers where to look to remove them. Some legionaries are from Pacifica, and they appreciate not losing part of their homeland to land mines after defending it from enemies.

>>1148334
>>1148327
>>1148324

The zombified legionary that is apparently acting as a beacon, or part of one, is carried to Orange County and left in a small fortified mini-infirmary near the capitol.

>>1148337
>>1148340
>>1148341

You once again decide to split your efforts, and the landmines and traps laid down are of mixed type, some intended to sap an Angel's strength, some intended to thin out the horde. While it's a known military maxim that trying to do everything at once results in doing nothing well, your engineers have high hopes in their technological superiority.

>>1148342

You do have a number of nuclear powered drones available.

Your mobile division stays just one horizon ahead of the horde as they set their trap; they report that looking towards the snaking line of trampled vegetation causes unease, and a sort of blind spot. One sysadmin likens it to a Somebody Else's Problem Field from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy; another to the Nothing in the Neverending Story; yet another to the sort of spot blindness caused by some optical illusions that stop fixational eye movements.

Inexorable, at a brisk walking pace but never stopping day or night, the horde advances.

# Risk a mothership drone and some small ones to get a sonar image.

# Indirect tracking is sufficient for now.

Eventually, the horde reached the trapped area...

# Watch the fireworks from the sky.

# Watch from ground level.

# The mobile division has brought light artillery, let them have it.
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>>1148345
# Risk a mothership drone and some small ones to get a sonar image.
Before I confirm, how easily can these be replaced?

# Watch the fireworks from the sky.

# The mobile division has brought light artillery, let them have it.
save this for when the traps are exhausted.
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>>1148348

The small drones are easy to replace; sans the wubber and with short-range controls, they're a popular consumer item. The large "mothership" drones you only have a few dozens of: they have to be tuned by hand.
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OH SHIT! We're not stopping?
I just came back to request that spider tanks be deployed to the farm and orange country for a plan i want to try.
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>>1148350
so would we have to spend 2 cabals and a base to get those back?
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>>1148352

You'd have to lose a few more. With how thin your forces are spread, you're likely to. (If a territory is doing well prosperity wise, it will replenish losses, up to a point).

>>1148351

(I'd like to call it right now, kinda sleepy. But iff there's people...)
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>>1148345
>
# Indirect tracking is sufficient for now.
># Watch the fireworks from the sky.
># The mobile division has brought light artillery, let them have it.
when the traps are exhausted.
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>>1148353
>(I'd like to call it right now, kinda sleepy. But iff there's people...)
It's your choice.
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>>1148355
I agree with this.
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>>1148353

Confirming >>1148348

(and if you want to call it just announce were continuing tomorrow. seriously, I think were all good for stopping for sleep.)
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>>1148355
Supporting.
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>>1148355
Actually, this one, but i'm pretty damn tired. it's fucking 2 am.
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>>1148361
>being a commiefornian
I feel sorry for you
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>>1148358

(Let's. Depending on strategy choices, this is possibly the last big fight before the big one, and it WILL be a tough one, so I'd like to give it justice. Thanks for playing, and hope that this is still interesting!

I very much welcome your conspiracy theories as to what is actually going on, so leave them here!)
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>>1148364
Thanks and goodnight plumber, really enjoying this arc so far
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>>1148364
Goodnight.
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>>1148364
Goodnight.
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>>1148363
Save us, Purge the cities, set the rest of us free!

>>1148364
Angel turned the zombies into actual demons, alternatively the judgement description of the demons matches that of a penis, so we are actually being attacked by a giant demon dick.

Goodnight!
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>>1148345
>risk a mother ship

>Light artillery aftwr they clear the first mine field.
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I'm back.
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>>1148851
I'm front
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I'm from behind.
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>>1148861
Just how i like it
Take me
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>>1148857
>>1148861
But who has our left?
Who has our right?
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>>1148869
We done need that where we're going.
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>>1148870
>>1148869
If the enemy is all around me, I can attack every side without fear of friendly fire.
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>>1148906
But what if
The enemy
Is on top of us?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbeEO58Hlfo
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>>1148909
As I said, I can attack from all angles.
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>>1148851
>>1148857
>>1148861

I am Spartacus! And so is my wife.

>>1148906

That's actually something that whatever-is-coming might be able to say; your forces are covering multiple areas, but are spread very thin.

With Hank near the state capitol, the horde is deviating slightly away from the Archangel trap following the average of the two coordinates, if the farm's coordinates weighed about ten to twelve times more than the legionary's coordinates.

This, combined with your decision to split your forces three way and not focus the minefield towards any particular use, means that the anomaly is going through a wide corridor of slightly radioactive ground mixed in with the occasional explosive, claymore, or acid mine.

That said, it's still a significant amount of power; as soon as the anomaly enters Pacifica, you are able to track it just from the flash and noise of explosives going and the smoke from the acid having impacted on the ground and, presumably, the horde.

>>1148355

Your sappers continue to retreat ahead of the horde, but as they do, fire all their mortar rounds into it in an over-the-horizon version of a fire and maneuver retreat; they have no way to know what they're hitting, but GPS-aimed mortar shells, while not particularly precise, can and do reach the ground where they're supposed to.

The Legion's sapper corps cheer at the overhead maps for an hour or two, then the explosions become more rare, and finally stop: the anomaly has stopped advancing.

"Did we get them all?"

# They are now within imaging range of your Sky Eye Mk2s: let's get some pictures.

# Send out a flying-wing drone with sonar.

# Send out Ithuriel with a request to get the fuck off your land.

# You have plenty of time to reposition your troop if you so choose.
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>>1148948
# Send out a flying-wing drone with sonar.
# They are now within imaging range of your Sky Eye Mk2s: let's get some pictures.


The horde is either dead, or stopped for now. I think the angel might have advanced ahead so we should be careful...by doing both of these we cover all possibilities while getting instant confirmation of the horde's state.
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>>1148948
>Send out a flying-wing drone with sonar.
>They are now within imaging range of your Sky Eye Mk2s: let's get some pictures.
Male sure the Sky eye imaging is calibrated to pass the forget field.
Do we have spider tanks deployed?
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>>1148966
Agreed but let's prep Ithuriel but not send him out yet also is our drop pods on stnadby get them to start drilling holes where we might need them to drop


>>1148971
Please stop with the spider tank autism.
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>>1148984
>Please stop with the spider tank autism.
No, i have a plan and i need then to do it.
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>>1148989
OK ill give you one shot. But honestly it's been getting annoying.
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>>1148948
# Send out a flying-wing drone with sonar.
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>>1148997
Agreed, it has.
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>>1148948
# They are now within imaging range of your Sky Eye Mk2s: let's get some pictures.

# You have plenty of time to reposition your troop if you so choose.
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>>1148971

There are a few available, two with regular turrets and one with the AVLB package.

>>1148966
>>1148948
>>1149003

A flying wing is faster and can stay in the air longer than a multicopter, although it has no ability to move with precision. The sonar rangings indicate something like an immense crop circle. There is some activity, as the anomaly is moving around. The sonar readings look a little bit like a ball of army ants protecting their queen through a water crossing.

Coming back, the drone turns its camera back on.

The closest farm to this place is also run by believers, an elderly couple according to census data, and is still inhabited - about three kilometers out. A truck is slowly heading towards the anomaly, cutting through the corn.

Unfortunately, nobody in it has a smartphone.

# Try to get a visual on the anomaly

or

# Warn the truck off with the drone.

Your third Legion group is still out there; you order them to

# keep in fighting-retreat mode

or

# take advantage of the horde having stopped and unload the remaining mortar rounds

or

# try to get closer.
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>>1149027
>Try to get a visual on the anomaly

>take advantage of the horde having stopped and unload the remaining mortar rounds
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>>1149027
>Try to get a visual on the anomaly
>take advantage of the horde having stopped and unload the remaining mortar rounds
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>>1149027
# Warn the truck off with the drone.

# take advantage of the horde having stopped and unload the remaining mortar rounds


Visual wouldn't help, we know what is there and that is all we need since the angel could conceal them from visual detection.

If we can offload the rest of our ammo then they can pull back all the way and resupply rather than merely slowly retreating to reinforcements.
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>>1149033
Switching to this.
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>>1149033
This.
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>>1149033
supporting
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>>1149035
>>1149033
>>1149031
>>1149029

You order your third Legion group to empty their automatic grenade launchers while the drone turns and uses its wubber as a loudspeaker to warn the truck off the kill zone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU1l9v2KkI0

Assorted mortar shells fly towards the anomaly; the explosions are enough to change the shadow in the endless day, and the sheer amount of noxious substances and radioactive dust that was delivered will make the area sterile for years.

The truck is being driven by an old woman, with an even older, pretty much decrepit man in the passenger seat. They ignore the warning. In the back of the truck they seem to have improvised two bench seats.

# Break their windshield with the drone's wubber.

# Crash the drone into the truck.

# Ignore, if they want to drive into a minefield, it's their problem.

After having unloaded their magazines, your sappers double back and return

# to the Byers farm to rearm their indirect-fire weapons.

# to the territorial capitol to acquire more mines.

# to both, splitting the column in two.
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>>1149053
>Ignore, if they want to drive into a minefield, it's their problem.
>to the Byers farm to rearm their indirect-fire weapons.
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>>1149053
# Ignore, if they want to drive into a minefield, it's their problem.

# to both, splitting the column in two.
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>>1149053
# to the Byers farm to rearm their indirect-fire weapons.

# Break their windshield with the drone's wubber.
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>>1149053
>Ignore, if they want to drive into a minefield, it's their problem.
Get the men who laid the mines inside a APC with a lighting rod.
>to the Byers farm to rearm their indirect-fire weapons.
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>>1149053
# Break their windshield with the drone's wubber.

to the Byers farm to rearm their indirect-fire weapons.
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Rolled 95 (1d100)

>>1149070
>>1149058
>>1149063

The drone keeps circling around the anomaly; in the meantime, your sappers return to the farm, either to reinforce the defenders there or, at the least, to reload the mortars.

The anomaly still isn't moving.

# Move troops or Villains around unless they already are where they need to be.
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>>1149077
>troops or Villains around unless they already are where they need to be.
have some drones observe the truck, I have a suspicion they're there to help the angel.
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>>1149073

A small group of sappers stay behind in an armored vehicle equipped with a multibeam sonar, to keep an eye on the anomaly.

They and the drone manage to pick up something interesting: the truck got as far as the edge of the anomaly, and then a few sonar and thermo blips emerge from the anomaly, board the back of the truck, and then the truck doubles back and returns to the old couple's home.

(Good dice roll for once!)

# Have the drone follow the truck, or stay with the anomaly.

# Have the APC follow and possibly intercept the truck, or stay with the anomaly. In there are a handful of sapper legionaries, in Hastatus (light) gear. The APC itself has a smart mortar, which is now out of ammo, and a medium wubber; it's slower than a pickup truck on road, but faster through the corn field (largely because it can use its multibeam sonar to see where it's going).
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>>1149089
>Have the drone follow the truck, or stay with the anomaly.
I knew it.
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>>1149089
>ACP stays with anomaly.

>drone follows the truck.
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>>1149100
supporting
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>>1149094
>>1149100
>>1149109

The Hastati park their APC in front of the anomaly, with the multibeam sonar firmly aimed at it; the traces continue their insectlike wambling about in place. Eventually, a larger trace steps in front of the horde. In a booming, stentorian tone it orders "Forward unto the goats of Pacifica!", loud enough to glitch out the sonar array for several seconds. When the observer vehicle is able to resume tracking, it seems that the column has changed direction, towards the territorial capitol.

"Omega? The bigger blip just took off."

# Switch to active sonar to get any details of the Archangel.

# Floor it!

# This looks a lot like submarine warfare on land; turn everything off and hide in the cornfield.

The drone keeps circling lazily above the truck; a few rifle shots reach it, but only manage to pass through its membranous wings and slightly decrease gliding efficiency. Once the drone is aimed away from the anomaly, the cameras are turned back on. By the look of it, the truck is now carrying six youths in gold-and-blue uniforms; one of them has a bandaged arm and they all look like they could use a shower, all of them have nicks and scrapes, but none of them are seriously injured. The oldest is trying to aim a TOL-issued AK47 at the drone, and has shot at it a few times. The truck is headed back to the farm.
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>>1149127
Switch to active sonar to get any details of the Archangel.
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>>1149127
Fall back to the capital, move our forces from the farm to the capital and prepare a new spur of the moment angel trap.


# Switch to active sonar to get any details of the Archangel.

then get the fuck out of there.
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>>1149145
supporting
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>>1149127
>Switch to active sonar to get any details of the Archangel.
Send a team to attack the truck and capture the youths.
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>>1149145
Also this.
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>>1149133

In the meantime, the old couple and the youths have reached the farm; they have few electrical appliances, and get power from a biodiesel generator, so you have very little telemetry on what they are doing. The drone climbs to above rifle range; its thermograph indicates that a couple of the rooms' temperatures have increased, hinting at the fact that what you assume are Millennium Force personnel are taking showers or baths.

>>1149133
>>1149145
>>1149150

The squad in the APC turns on active sonar and stay put in order to get a high-resolution "picture". Seconds later, accelerometers in the APC record a slow impact, and that's the last thing you get from that vehicle or that squad. They did their job to the end and will be remembered. The Archangel Phanuel is carrying an enormous sword, easily as tall as a man.

Rather than trying to redirect the horde or bait the Archangel, you abandon the trap and order your forces to quickly transfer to the territorial capitol, which Kat has surrounded by a star-fortress wall.

The star is nine-pointed, and you decide to build an ersatz Angel trap

# between the two points that are facing the horde's location and probable path.

# inside the capitol building, assuming that the Archangel will go straight for the seat of power.

Mr. Bissattini is obviously nervous; he would rather get the comatose legionary back to the farm. However, her understands that since he is the nominal head of state, he is a valid target and can be used as bait. "If it comes to that, I will show the world how a Pacifican dies. At least, I will not be remembered as a figurehead."

# Move Bissattini and Hank to the farm instead.

# Move the Byers family to the capitol.

# Leave everyone where they are.

Sky Eye telemetry indicates that the Archangel has raced ahead to neutralize the APC, but then went back within the horde. You did get a visual glimpse of the back of the horde when he did that; the TOL zombies in the back are injured, some missing a limb. The elongated minefield is strangely devoid of bodies, although you can see the various types of mines having gone off.
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>>1149189
># between the two points that are facing the horde's location and probable path.
massive amounts of radiation and glue bombs.

># Leave everyone where they are.
it will not come to that. were moving him to a more secure area in the building.
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>>1149189

Also: If you send a team to capture the youths, what will it be composed of? A larger team will have an easier time if it comes to a firefight, but a smaller team will be able to get to the farm undetected. Note that if any of the Millennium Force membes are Glorified, you are likely to either redirect the Archangel or summon another Angel.
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I just noticed anti put 6 infantry dots and 2 heavy dots in Pacifica. How many tanks do we have from those 2 heavy units?
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>>1149213

One tank group and one artillery group.
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>>1149208
we won't capture them, not yet, were going to keep surveillance on them for now.
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>>1149245

Setting up a small ant trail of flying wings going in and out from the nearest battery charging station is trivial. So far, it looks like the Millies are enjoying some R&R.

The horde seems to be headed towards the territorial capitol; the faux-Tuscany appearance of the place (the architects say that it's from Napa Valley) has been enhanced considerably by the star fort that Kat built.

You have decided to abandon the main Angel trap, so what will the new one look like? You have a few days to put it together, so your options are a bit more limited.

# Just outside the star fort, as a fake entrance to it.

# Turn the capitol building into an Angel maze, assuming that Phanuel will just jump the wall.

The trap will consist of three of the following (that's as much time as you have to construct it), plus the usual corridors full of radiation emitters and wubbers.

# Arena with sonars to counter invisibility.

# Water chamber with some of Tethys' people in it.

# Intense radiation emission chamber that the Archangel will have to crawl through.

# Dedicated silencer room with a wall that the Archangel will have to trumpet-blast to destroy.

# Wubbing room intended to slow the Archangel down; its true purpose is to acquire as much sensor data as possible.
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>>1149261
>Turn the capitol building into an Angel maze, assuming that Phanuel will just jump the wall.

>Wubbing room intended to slow the Archangel down; its true purpose is to acquire as much sensor data as possible.

> Water chamber with some of Tethys' people in it.

>Arena with sonars to counter invisibility.
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>>1149261
# Turn the capitol building into an Angel maze, assuming that Phanuel will just jump the wall.


# Arena with sonars to counter invisibility.

# Intense radiation emission chamber that the Archangel will have to crawl through.

# Dedicated silencer room with a wall that the Archangel will have to trumpet-blast to destroy.


Engaging the foe with a unknown strength trumpet blast underwater is a bad idea, given water conducts sound better than air...
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>>1149261
># Turn the capitol building into an Angel maze, assuming that Phanuel will just jump the wall.

># Water chamber with some of Tethys' people in it.
># Intense radiation emission chamber that the Archangel will have to crawl through.
>
# Wubbing room intended to slow the Archangel down; its true purpose is to acquire as much sensor data as possible.
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>>1149282
This.
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>>1149282
I agree with this.
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>>1149282
This.
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>>1149282

Your people

# throw all the might of your resources, including flying in armor plating from Misrayim, waterproofing from Nova Roma's shipyards, and custom-made tridents from Night City (Use up all resources)

# use the best that Pacifica has to offer (Keep something in reserve)

to build an ersatz Archangel trap in record time; the outside of the capitol building is left alone, but the inside is rebuilt into an iron-and-stone maze with Mr. Bissattini and Hank at the end. Right before the small cell - Bissattini is given a fairly fancy VR rig to stave off boredom and continue to attend to territory business via telepresence - is an arena with alcoves for your martial artists to enter; it's blanketed with sonars and laser pointers in case the Archangel becomes invisible.

The usual flexible layout would take too long to build, so the maze is traditional: the silencer room is right before the arena, complete with a breakable concrete wall to go through, and the rest of the maze is filled with high-intensity radiation sources. The corridors and cramped rooms are designed to occasionally startle an Angel and give it simple challenges, such as destroying sentry guns, whose real purpose is to slow its progress so that it can absorb more radiation.

Tethys recalls her aquatic martial artists in a huff, complaining about the waste of time but admitting that they were kept comfortable. Ryan Andrews is mildly amused by the kerfuffle, and leaves the anti-pheromone-tanks with you to deploy in the arena if you like; the next thing you hear from those two is some sort of disturbance at a restaurant, but it can wait.

Your people will try to collect as much information on the Archangel as possible, but data harvesting has to take a back seat from beating it up in the first place.

Your Legion will

# engage the horde right outside the walls.

# handle this like an old-time siege, and hold the line at the walls.
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>>1149366
>use the best that Pacifica has to offer

>handle this like an old-time siege, and hold the line at the walls.
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>>1149379
I back this course of action.
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>>1149379
>>1149401

So you want to take our highly mobile combined arms force and make them fight a horde of infantry by defending a wall in a medieval fort.

And not build the best trap we can against an archangel which is the last one we have to fight, because you want to keep resources in reserve.

Okay, but why? I appreciate that we're basically building the Imperium of Man here, but can we avoid its stupid tactical mistakes while we do?
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>>1149366
>use the best that Pacifica has to offer.
>handle this like an old-time siege, and hold the line at the walls.
Have some spider tanks shred the horde with their autocannons while they circle the horde, occasionally preforming a screaming charge into and through the horde.
When the horde attacks the wall, have heavy tanks deploy behind them and attack.
Snipers on top of the wall snipe anything important.
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>>1149413
Well, there's some degree of mystery surrounding the enemy, so I think a conservative course is better. Why directly engage them outside of a defensible position? And why throw all our reserves out at once? We can always come out from the walls and we can always call in our reserves.
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>>1149413
Oh I do agree expend every resource but I don't want to shaft our efforts by expending every resource here.
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>>1149422

Resources unused: 2 extra cabals, 2 supply assists from Misrayim.

>>1149421

I guess we will see how spider tanks do. However, you are choosing to keep them in/at the walls, not engage the horde outside it.
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>>1149430
>However, you are choosing to keep them in/at the walls, not engage the horde outside it.
Oh, will they be on top/on the other side of the walls?
And it's not just the spider tanks i want to test.
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>>1149366
># handle this like an old-time siege, and hold the line at the walls.
nothing will touch these walls but the angel.


# throw all the might of your resources, including flying in armor plating from Misrayim, waterproofing from Nova Roma's shipyards, and custom-made tridents from Night City (Use up all resources)
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>>1149366

# use the best that Pacifica has to offer (Keep something in reserve)

# engage the horde right outside the walls.

With an addendum that we should try to get the Angel separated from the zombie hordes, and engage from range as much as possible. Minus the angel, the zombies should be mincemeat-and if they aren't for whatever reason, we can pull a fighting retreat to the walls.
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(And back)

>>1149421

The major issue with using snipers is that your forces have difficulties seeing what's going on; it's not invisibility, it's actively wanting to look away. You have fully automated aiming systems of course, but they aren't precise enough to do any sniping - it's more the "spin up a gatling gun and fire at everything that moves" sort of sentry.
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>>1149546
>>1149493
>>1149421
>>1149379

(Consensus seems to be to use local materials, and hold the line at the wall)
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>>1149673
it goes against our usual strategy, but it should be effective against this enemy.

although I wish we would use supplies from Egypt, it would be the time to use those support cabals.
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>>1149673

A hasty retrofit to the Legionaries' helmet visors adds an opaque layer (immediately nicknamed "the tinfoil hat") and uses the onboard camera to give a vector-graphics visual to show what's going on in a way that hopefully will work against the anomaly.

It's a hotter day than usual, both the Sun and sun-like Moon are in the sky. The horde is coming.

Your soldiers line the walls of the star fort; the head of the horde is being tracked by sonar and radar. They are coming at a running pace.

Just outside the range of rifles and mortars, just inside the small suburbs - which have been depopulated, those living there retreating inside the star fort as in medieval times - the horde stops. Nobody still can see them directly, but they seem to be destroying some of the houses, it's like a ghost tornado, slowly moving clockwise around the star fort instead of attacking it directly.

They're no longer in an open field; a fight now would happen among detached houses, gas/recharging stations, and small office buildings... what's lef of them, as some of the residential buildings are being razed. There seems to be no pattern to this; the homes are all empty anyway, but houses of believers and not are being trashed.

# Wait and see.

# Artillery.

# Sortie.

Meanwhile, the drones keeping an eye on the farm that the Millennium Force guys hid into report that a RV coming from Hearthland is headed there.
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>>1149744
Huh. Was not aware there were suburbs around the fort.

Can we scout it out with drones? Or is the sortie the only recon option we have.
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>>1149744
Sortie.
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>>1149744
# Sortie
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>>1149744
Ambush the RV, don't let them escape.
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>>1149755

(I did provide an aerial photo)

You don't need to scout it out; you have maps that are accurate up until the room level. As it is, you do have drones in the air, to provide sonar coverage.

>>1149755
>>1149762
>>1149769

The Legion sallies forth! You use

# drone tankettes: they can be set to full auto and even if they shoot each other on occasion, it's no big deal. They mostly carry anti-infantry weapons and will make a mess of unarmored infantry.

# tanks, both tracked and legged: let's see how they do in urban combat.

# "mothership" heavy drones supported by wubber drones.

# mobile infantry: they should do well at a fight in the suburbs.

# heavy infantry marching out. Baptism by fire!

# combined arms, trading more firepower for the risk of friendly fire since everyone is seeing this through a filter.

>>1149778

# What sort of force will you dispatch to do so?
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>>1149793
># mobile infantry: they should do well at a fight in the suburbs.
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>>1149793
# drone tankettes: they can be set to full auto and even if they shoot each other on occasion, it's no big deal. They mostly carry anti-infantry weapons and will make a mess of unarmored infantry.


They are the best force for this role. Expendable, cheap and unaffected by the visual field.
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>>1149793
>What sort of force will you dispatch to do so?
A spider tank and some tanketts attack and disable the RV, APC's with soldiers will then move in and capture the youths with silencer and worker drones.
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>>1149793
Just because we have maps don't mean they are current, or tell anything about enemy intent.

Heavy drones with wubbers, let's get some eyes in those rooms. Keep the infantry in reserve.
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>>1149812
...eyes in the figurative sense, of course.
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>>1149802
this then.
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>>1149793
# heavy infantry marching out. Baptism by fire!
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>>1149846
>>1149802

Tankettes cannot maneuver very well inside a fortress, but have no problems negotiating suburbs: Damien will try to control a few from a command vehicle inside the fortress, while the vast majority are released in fully autonomous mode: ironically, their sensors are too simple to fool.

Since a tankette left alone will simply shoot at anyting in its front visual arc that moves, the system is simple: tankettes rush out of the fortress doors, move ahead to spread out for a few seconds, then stop at the same time and look for targets. A few seconds after, they cease fire and move to a new position. From the RTS view that you and your commanders are getting, it looks like a game of checkers with all pieces moving simulltaneously, at least from your side.

The other side... They are making their way clockwise around the fortress wall, destroying houses as they go; return fire against your ground drones is sporadic and uncoordinated. As the anomaly keeps moving in a circle around the fort, Damien turns on some of the cameras of the tankettes that are out of position, to show wrecked homes and reanimated soldiers of The Only Light that have been cut down by the tankettes' machine guns. They look... strangely healthy, certainly more so than the ones that were seen by your infiltrators. They still bear the telltale signs of no post-mortem maintenance and massive pre-mortem amphetamine abuse, but even though you can easily count ribs even from a low resolution screenshot, they seem to have put on some muscle.

The drone tanks, occasionally shooting each other on a desync, end up following the trailing end of the horde and picking off at it, enduring some amount of return fire.

# Looks like we can win a war of attrition.

# Have some tankettes charge in and act as markers for the heavy artillery.

# Why are they going in circles?

>>1149811

You send out your spider tanks, and remove the AVLB package from one of them to turn it into a troop carrier. The unusual vehicles easily cross through the suburbs, and by the look of it, it seems that the Archangel is going to leave them alone. They move as fast as their nuclear batteries can take them towards the farm, an ant-trail of drones above head. The contubernium in charge of capturing the Millennium Force agents is...

# Hastati: light, mobile infantry.

# Triarii: heavy infantry with shields.

# Frumentarii: military intelligence personnel.

# Pacifican police and volunteers, actually.
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>>1150001

(Darn, missed quads. Also, that's more like it for dice.... lol)
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>>1150001
>Why are they going in circles?

> Frumentarii: military intelligence personnel.
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>>1150016
>intelligence personnel
>>1150001
># Why are they going in circles?
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>>1150001
>Why are they going in circles?
OH SHIT THERE DOING THAT THING!
>Frumentarii: military intelligence personnel.
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>>1150001
>>1150042
Ok, we need to prevent them from completing 7 laps,(I think) does anyone have any ideas for blocking their path?
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>>1150001
>>1150016
>Make a barrier, DO NOT LET THEM CIRCLE IT 5 TIMES. STOP THEM WITH WHATEVER MEANS ARE NEEDED.
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>>1150051
This, maybe shoot some napalm to make a literal firewall.
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>>1150035
>>1150016
>>1150042

"To make it easier for us to slaughter them?"

"No, I think it's the whole Wall of Jericho thing."

"That would mean that they have spies here. Does Hank count?"

"It would also mean that they've bribed a prostitute. I don't see either an Archangel or a bunch of zombies doing that any time soon."

"LA prostitutes? In a heartbeat."

"That's besides the point."

>>1150042
>>1150035
>>1150016

The Frumentarii on the spider tanks are trained to handle police actions; they shouldn't have much of a problem handling two old farmers and a bunch of play soldiers.

# Let them do their thing.

# Micromanage.

The tankettes continue their odd movement and end up tailing the horde; you're seeing a lot more bodies than you thought you would, however, the houses and so on are still getting wrecked just as fast. Eventually the small land drones will run out of ammo and

# there will be another sortie.

# they will return to reload.

# as above, but the damaged ones will go in and be used as artillery marker.

>>1150056

The Desolators are prepared to take a tanker truck and make a literal firewall if you so choose. Mixing the gas with whatever toxic goop they use should make for a nice, hot-burning gelatin.

# Kat goes with them.

# Kat stays in.

# No, don't.
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>>1150067
>Let them do their thing.

>they will return to reload, but the damaged ones will go in and be used as artillery marker.

>Kat goes with them.
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>>1150067
# as above, but the damaged ones will go in and be used as artillery marker.

# Kat stays in.
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>>1150067
>The Desolators are prepared to take a tanker truck and make a literal firewall if you so choose. Mixing the gas with whatever toxic goop they use should make for a nice, hot-burning gelatin.
>Kat stays in.
Do it after the horde laps 3 times to confirm it's Jericho they are doing.
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>>1150067

# Let them do their thing.

# as above, but the damaged ones will go in and be used as artillery marker.

# Kat stays in.
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>>1150083
>>1150082

"Vulpes team, we have things to deal with here. You're on your own. Make it a clean capture if you can, if not, remember that those are enemy combatants and possibly symphatisers and we're in a state of war."

"By your command, Omega."

The spider tanks keep going towards their target.

>>1150086
>>1150083
>>1150082
>>1150080

Most of the tankettes return home after expending their magazines; your legionaries open the fortress gates enough, and quickly reload the the land drones. Those with damaged or jammed weapons are told to switch to melee, and charge blindly into the horde (except for those that charge into each other by mistake). Some hit something, some are grabbed and thrown off... either way, they let you get a good bead on the horde's center.

Your heavy artillery platforms plant their hydraulic feet on the ground and fire as one. The high explosive shells hit, their pressure waves doing more damage to the town than the horde did. Bodies are scattered everywhere.

"And that's why zombie movies are unrealistic."

Infantry is the queen of the battlefield, but artillery is the king of war - and your soldiers all know what the king does to the queen. The anomaly dissipates, to show a mass of scattering "zombies" much larger than what your analyists suggested; even so, with vision restored, a quick count indicates that you've blown up or riddled with bullets about a third of them.

The anomaly, much smaller, takes off above the houses and starts moving around the town again, except now it's going at a good hundred kilometers per hour. By the time your operators are able to adjust radars and sonars on it again, it's completed two laps.

The zombies scatter away from the heavy artillery fire coordinates, and spread out around the town. They look thin but buff, and some have weapons.

# Orders?
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>>1150147
>Start Sniping the Zombies.

>if we can, prevent that angel from circling, if we fail to do that have a silencer stump it.

>Ithuriel, prepare to engage. remember, no heroics, retreat if your about to go down.
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>>1150147
Snipers and tankettes take are of the scattered zombies.
Fire the napalm to block the anomaly, and send some heavy tanks to organize themselves in a row and make a blockade on the path too.
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>>1150192
if napalm is a burning angel glue then yeah, shoot that.
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>>1150147
>Glue it, Shot it, Take it down no matter how many dead. Fly something into it if you need too.
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>>1150197
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napalm
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>>1150215
I know what napalm is, I'm saying is I don't think actual napalm will stick.
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>>1150234
Napalm is a gelling agent so i assume it will.
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>>1150192

Sending out the heavy tanks simply causes the Archangel to fly above them: the shockwave is sufficient to glitch the tanks' sonars and wubbers for a moment. From this, your aeronautical engineers and physicists surmise that Phanuel is flapping its wings at hummingbird speeds. In fact, it's LOUD! The wingtips are consistently going faster than sound.

>>1150192

Now that the zombies are visible, your triarii poke their heads out of the bastions, lift their "tinfoil hats", and begin taking down the enemy with precision. The tankettes position themselves at the feet of the wall, and resume their carefully timed bursts.

The zombies seem to have settled towards advancing towards the fortress from all directions as the Archangel completes another lap.

>>1150234
>>1150199

Kat and the other heavy MECs that participated in the construction effort supplement your few flak cannons with the simple expedient of taking gasoline barrels half-filled with toxin and throwing them, with a sharpshooter firing a phosphorous round at it. This does a number on the town below, obviously, but aiming at the Archangel is still extremely difficult.

That's four laps it's done. Some Legionaries are worried about killing the reanimated soldiers, but even so, they aim true; the zombie attack has more or less turned into a shooting gallery. It's a stretch to say that there are more targets than there is ammo, but some of the zombies are likely to reach the walls, and not much of the town outside the walls will be left by then.

# Stop the Phanuel! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj6-LG5VpGk
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>>1150272
Alright, have some drones charge at the angel and overload their nuclear engines inside and around him.
another group of drones line up and activate silencers to make a silence wall, another row of drones behind that using wubber shields.
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>>1150272
>>1150299
And use the heavy tanks to hunt as many zombies advancing towards the fort as possible.
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>>1150299
our flyers save for the motherships don't have nuclear. and I don't want to trash the mothership.
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>>1150321
Shouldn't we have worker drones?
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>>1150334
They aren't nuclear
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>>1150272
Actually, do we have some spider tanks left or did we send them all to catch the RV?
>>1150342
Yes they are, our tankettes have nuclear engines and the worker drones are about their size.
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>>1150272
Can we compensate for the shock wave the next time it rolls around, and hit it with a sound wall? Or is that beyond our wubber capabilities?
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>>1150347

You have a few left.

>>1150355

That's doable in a closed environment of known size, but in the open air.... You can try, but it's not been tried before. Zak is in Misrayim, and he's the current top expert, so he can only assist remotely.

>>1150299

A silence wall might work... but then the small drones making the walls would have to deal with a large flying combatant with a huge sword.

>>1150355

This is a new situation: you can try a number of things.

Allowing the Archangel to finish another loop would make it easier for you to predict its movements on the subsequent loop.
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>>1150369
>You have a few left.
Have the autocannons replaced with desolators then have the spider tanks run around the fort in a circle spewing neutrons, they will make a moat of radiation.
>A silence wall might work... but then the small drones making the walls would have to deal with a large flying combatant with a huge sword.
That's fine, maybe keep the silencers off until we see the angel approaching so we don't tip him off.
>Allowing the Archangel to finish another loop would make it easier for you to predict its movements on the subsequent loop.
How many loops left does he need to complete before the walls come down?
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>>1150388

Assuming that it's what it's going for: six.
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>>1150416
Let it make a lap then go with the plan.
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>>1150321
>>1150342

Tankettes are the smallest system that holds nuclear batteries, and even that was a feat: your aerial drones have weight issues, in addition to size, and use conventional nickel or lithium batteries. Recon drones are generally flying wings, rather than multicopters, because they're actually soaring most of the time.


# So what's the plan/plans?
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>>1150528
Aren't our Tankettes as big as a golf cart?
Aerial drones are based on the William x-jet and Hiller VZ-1 pawnee designs and those can be equally as big, so a nuclear engine should fit.
Also can we research better batteries?
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>>1150556

Okay, I'm out, you run this for the rest of the turn.
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