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    1.12 MB Zeonquest Pt55 I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)12:07 No.9105014  
    Well, I've managed to win the grand national.

    My mother asked me which horse I wanted to back, I told her not to push it, and next thing you know I'm up 44 quid.


    You are ace pilot David H. Lister, Lieutenant Commander in the Principality of Zeon. You've just spent a day kicking so much ass it boggles the mind and have finally been recalled back to Captain Garma's front, where he continues to try and deal with the gundam.

    You and your team are being transported via Gaws, as they can be repaired whilst in transit. (Which a couple of your suits are in dire need of, Elaine's suit especially.)
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)12:09 No.9105038
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    As you mount your Mobile Suits up onto the Gaws, the captain asks what your flight plan will be.
    He want's to know if you want to go straight to lord Garma, or if you want to stop over in California and pick up some other Mobile Suits instead.

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:09 No.9105046
    We getting our other suits or going to cali? Even though garma needs us we could use some down time to switch things around

    also, beam rifles for everyone
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)12:12 No.9105078

    For the record, the suits that you didn't take with you to Canada went back to California most likely.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:13 No.9105092
    Then i vote for a trip to cali
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)12:14 No.9105107

    How long will it add to our flight time?

    Also how pressing is Garma for more troops to arrive?

    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)12:16 No.9105135

    The trip to cali will probably mean that you wont arrive at Lord Garma's location near the grand canyon until early tommorow morning most likely.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)12:18 No.9105160

    Also, as for Lord Garma's situation, you haven't heard anything concrete, but it's been only about a day since you were last with him, so hopefully things haven't deteriorated too badly.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)12:20 No.9105184
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    Can we send a quick communique to him?

    Possible we can send some of us back to retrieve suits while we go and support him?

    I'm normally against splitting our group so far... (I'm thinking the whole SPAAAACE thing we went through). But the Zanzibar Kai (Which should be ready right?) and the other MS would be a great boon.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)12:21 No.9105200

    Who would you want to be sending back, and who would be going to Cali?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:22 No.9105206
    Can't we call them to ship the suits and OUTER to meet us there?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:23 No.9105229
    That's an idea. How about we send benny? We don't really need insane anti air for this. all he has to do is say "MEET US HERE" and bam
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)12:24 No.9105238

    I was thinking Bernie and maaaybe one other to keep an eye on him?

    I'm thinking this was his first major engagement, so he might need time to wind down.

    But then again, its just me thinking this.


    But this has merit, as long as we can trust the crew to get it their in one piece... <_<
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:26 No.9105267
    I'm for either Burnie going to get them, or them meeting us their. Either is fine
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)12:29 No.9105302

    Okay, what will you be doing if the Outer Heaven isn't ready?
    Also, what suits do you want them to send up to you then?
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)12:30 No.9105308

    Think we can send Hovis or something with him?

    Maybe Jolyne? I loathe to send out anyone alone. D:
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:32 No.9105335
    Can we get a list of whats available?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:32 No.9105346
    Well they can send the suits in something else then, it'd just be convienet is all.

    As for the suits, the Act, a regular zaku for bernie. I figure we get zol in the act and bernie in our badass Zaku's.

    Before anyone goes "Bernie won't stand a chance in a zaku!" remember, all of our zakus are tuned to be a tad better then the norm, and the reason Rameriez died was because he was in the flashy, dangerous looking suit.

    Also he didn't use smoke to cover his advance
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:37 No.9105404
    As long as we get SOMEONE in the Gigan, that thing is a tiny packet of awesome.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:37 No.9105410
    Proposed new suit loadout:
    bernie- Zaku 2
    hobes-flipper or scout, whatever one

    PS: send the beam rifles to cali, tell them to make them Dom usible
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)12:39 No.9105421
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    Am I the only one that misses the Zolomon antics in his Gouf?


    We need to up armor that thing... maybe we should ask Zol about it?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:39 No.9105422
    Normaly, yeah but it doesn't really have a use for us anymore. The only thing WB has are the 3 suits and that thing isn't really built for suit combat and their's no air for it to rape that the rino can't take care of.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:40 No.9105435
    I think the Act is faster then the gouf, but i really have no idea

    Have him take whatever suit is faster, his problem before was not being able to keep up with us in the doms
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    You also havea Gouf Custom don't forget.

    Okay, so you outline the plan to send Bernie and Jolyne back to the Captain, when you receive a priority signal from Ookawara.

    "I could'nt help but overhear Lt.Cmmdr, and if you would be so kind, could the Pezun Dowdages get sent to California instead?"



    "What? Really?"

    "Yes, Elaines entire front half is shredded and her energy distribution network is completely borked all over the place. Zolomon's shoulder is going to need a full replacement, and even if we ignore the fact that you need new Beam Emitters for your chest cannon, there's still the fact that you've managed to give your suit critical stress fractures on EVERY SINGLE JOINT."

    "Uh. Okay then. How long will this take to repair?"

    "3 Days. Minimum."

    "I'm about to go up against the Gundam!" You protest.

    "Not in these suits you aren't." Ookawar states.

    Well, it looks like these suits will have to go to Cali regardless. Hmm.

    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)12:43 No.9105483

    AHAHAHa hee hee.... uh... Lets see um... Goufs for all? D:
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:45 No.9105494
    We just need to get an EXAM system and some chain-mines/hammerguns/heat hawks and he'll be nigh unstoppable.

    Though maybe not...I would feel horrible about Marion to say the least, not to mention driving Zol crazy...
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:45 No.9105500
    Send the suits to Cali while we go straight to Garma, have some of the group head to cali to pick up the old suits and meet up with us.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:46 No.9105503
    In b4 when we get there we have new suits waiting for us
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:46 No.9105510

    >...we are so fucked....but I...I like it this way :3
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:48 No.9105531
    Thank god we have unused zaku 2s

    I like this idea, just send us they'll have some suits on hand we can use while they drop off the good ones.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)12:49 No.9105534

    Currently Available in your MS hangar:

    2x MS-06F2 Zaku II's (El Muerto Grande and Zolomons old Desert Zaku IIRC)
    1x Zaku Cannon
    1x Gouf Custom
    1x Act Zaku

    You currently have with you:
    1x Gashhia
    1x Gigan
    1x Rhinoceros
    1x Flipper Zaku
    3x Pezun Dowdages that need repair.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)12:49 No.9105549

    That's unlikely. Theyt have to be prepped for transport first, odds are you'll arrive before they do in all fairness.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:51 No.9105563
    Gouf act and EL MUERTE GIGANTE
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)12:51 No.9105571
    Give Zol the Gouf, he loves that thing so much.
    >> Zeta Zaku 04/10/10(Sat)12:51 No.9105573
    Stick David back in the Act Zaku and Zolomon back in the Gouf. Jo can probably stay in the Gasshia if we can get reloads for it, and Ruubens...should probably take one of the F2s.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:52 No.9105581
    I think he means new, new suits. As opposed to suits we've had before.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)12:55 No.9105617
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    What is Garma's mission in the area?

    Is this still gundam pursuit time?

    ... also Acguy.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)12:55 No.9105619

    Okay, so the line up would be:

    You: Act Zaku
    Zol: Gouf Custom
    Jolyne: Gasshia

    Elaine: Zaku F2?
    Bernard: Gigan or Zaku F2?
    Calvin: Flipper Zaku, most likely on Dodai

    Hovis as usual in the Rhino.

    Will you be picking up the suits personally whilst you drop off your Pezun Dowdages or not?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:55 No.9105625
    I wan't zol in that Act. That thing is fucking made for him even more then his gouf, faster more fluid...how does that NOT translate to a monster for zol?

    jol did good in the gouf that one time, and we're so super sexy that even in EL MUERTE GIGANTE we can hold the gundam off.

    However, how about we do this
    Bernie- desert
    Jol- gigan, gouf, geshia or her zaku cannon
    David- anything
    zol- gouf or act
    hovis- rino, gigan
    hobs is set
    elane- whatever is left
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)12:56 No.9105631

    Yes, it's only been a day since you were sent to canada after all.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:56 No.9105638
    lets take a second to talk about this, lots of options
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)12:56 No.9105640

    For some reason, I thought it was more. <_<
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:57 No.9105644
    Nah, our Bro Garma wouldn't have called us if he didn't need us. Lets get back there and send some of the others to pick up the suits.
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    hey zeonquest guys

    I never read this thing of yours but I thought you might want to look at this image

    >> Zeta Zaku 04/10/10(Sat)12:58 No.9105647
    Stick Bernie in an F2 as well. Dude needs to get good with Zakus at some point.

    And yeah, let's pick them up personally. I don't see why we shouldn't.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:58 No.9105649
    I too want Jol in a front line suit. She's being waisted on support and can aparently move faster then TIME

    give her the gouf again
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:58 No.9105651

    Suit with whom I have lived, suit with whom I will now die, serve right and justice one last time, seek one last heart of evil, still one last life of pain, cut well old friend, and then farewell.

    If David is in anything besides the our good buddy, we are doing it horribly wrong.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)12:58 No.9105654

    That is pretty much what Char does to UC Zeon...
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)12:59 No.9105657
    Trolltastic Zeon Assassination device? Lets send one to Amuro.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)13:00 No.9105664
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    Well since we're getting the Dowdages repaired anyway, we might as well ALL go to California and pick up our suits...

    Garma should be okay. :D

    Right? <_<
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:00 No.9105665
    So far we're still split on just going and using zakus there or going and getting the suits

    Bernie is going to get the desert our our old suit, hovis is in the rino. Everything else is more or less undecided
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:01 No.9105677

    My suggestions

    David: Act Zaku (any chance it could power one of those captured beam rifles? I recall it was supposed to be a test bed for Zeon beam tech, so it might have the generator power to support one)
    Zol: His Gouf, naturally.
    Elaine: Probably Zol's old Desert Zaku, it's pretty heavily customized.

    Jolyne: The Gasshia. It's proven it's worth I think, and it's a versatile MS.
    Bernie: Gigan! Everyone wants to change him out, but he's an aircraft raping machine in it! I don't have any idea how many planes he's taken down, but it's a hell of a lot!
    Hovis: Rhino, obviously.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)13:02 No.9105687

    I like it.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:02 No.9105692
    >Bernie: Gigan! Everyone wants to change him out, but he's an aircraft raping machine in it! I don't have any idea how many planes he's taken down, but it's a hell of a lot!

    Whitebase has NO AIRCRAFT and it is to solid for the AA arms to have effect, save for the cannon
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:03 No.9105699
    Up front Team:

    David- El Muerto Gigante
    Zolomon- Zol Gouf Custom
    Jolyne- Gouf

    Just a lil' bit back team:

    Elaine- Gasshia
    Bernie- Desert F2
    Hovis- Rhino
    Calvin- Flipper

    Bring the Gigan as a backup and maybe stick a red shirt in it if we need the anti-air badly enough.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:04 No.9105703
    I'd like to see what zol can do in the Act, and jol is being waisted in that geshia. I say give the act to zol, the gouf to jol and have us take our good old suit
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:04 No.9105709

    The Whitebase is an aircraft, and though obviously he's not getting through it's main hull, he can do a lot of damage to it's weapons/engines in that thing. Not to mention that they have actually DO have core fighters. Anyways, what's he gonna get in an F2 that's better than the 180mm cannon and minigun arm?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)13:04 No.9105712
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    Okay, Bernie in an F2 as well. We can keep the Gigan on hand just in case anyway.

    You, Elaine and Zolomon head down to California in one Gaw, whilst the others head towards Arizona, where Garma is.
    In the aftermath of your victory in southern Canada, you're journey goes free from enemy attacks and you land after a couple of hours of travel.
    The three of you dismount to allow the techs to pilot in your requested suits into the Gaw.
    You are apporached by a general attache to the Test Team. You remember him from the numerous times you've worked with prototypes.

    "Commander, could you sign here please?"

    "What for?" You ask.

    "It's to sign off for your Beam Rifle."

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:04 No.9105714
    Up front Team:

    David- El Muerto Gigante
    Zolomon- Zol Gouf Custom
    Jolyne- Act

    Just a lil' bit back team:

    Elaine- Gasshia
    Bernie- Desert F2
    Hovis- Rhino
    Calvin- Flipper

    Bring the Gigan as a backup and maybe stick a red shirt in it if we need the anti-air badly enough.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:05 No.9105724
    You know what I want? a new pilot.

    Who you ask? Well in canada when fighting bandit for the last time a zaku got its arm beamed off by bandit before we fucked him up. A RED SHIRT SURVIVED AN ATTACK FROM OUR RIVAL!

    he has plot armor, we need him
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:06 No.9105732

    I dunno, Jolyne has been our mid-range specialist this whole time, and the Gasshia is our best mid-range MS right now. Seems silly to change out her specialty at this late a date.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:06 No.9105735
    He's still up there though...
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)13:06 No.9105740
    NOTE: MIP don't trust anyone OTHER than you to use one of their precious salvaged Beam Rifles in combat, and only the Act Zaku has the reactor capable of powering it.
    If you give the Act Zaku to someone else, you won't be allowed to use the rifle.
    At least until you can get Garma to countersign off with you.
    >> Zeta Zaku 04/10/10(Sat)13:06 No.9105741

    Who's one-shotting the enemy now, huh Feds?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:07 No.9105744
    Fuck yeah! How many shots does it carry?
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)13:08 No.9105760
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    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:08 No.9105765
    Except, we've never properly used her as a mid-range specialist. Generally we've stuck her on baby sitting duty of the Rhino or providing long range fire. Her newtype ability is a close combat dream, let's give her a suit that can handle it.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:08 No.9105773

    Awesome! The Act Zaku was always supposed to be a beam weapon test bed, and with our capture of all that info and actual guns, I guess it finally is.

    ALSO, I'd like to actually ask our team about their experience and opinions on the various MS we've used, see if they have any preference themselves.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:08 No.9105774
    Well she's done fine in mid range, but think of the few times she hasn't been in mid range

    1) In the Z'gock she spun that thing like a top and did major damage to the fleat with little time. Those things were not made to move like that
    2) in a gouf, she moved FASTER THEN A BERSERK GUNDAM and survived a CLOSE RANGE ATTACK
    3) when ambushed by Night she used a slower suit to dissarm him with a limited CC weapon. SHE DISSARMED THE NIGHT FIGHT AMBUSHER.

    trust me, if we put her front line, she might be as good a zol
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:09 No.9105798
    We have pull, all it takes is a call
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:10 No.9105807
    Well then we'll take the Act i guess.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)13:10 No.9105808

    This, we should ask our team, we got time right? :D

    Little chat, some coffee, maybe a doughnut or two...

    Some vindaloo....
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:11 No.9105815

    She's always helped provide fire support, and done pretty well on it. However! As a compromise, we can ask her what she wants to try out.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)13:12 No.9105824

    20 shots. 1 clip only, needs 2 hours back at the base in dedicated apparatus to recharge. Pick your shots with this one.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:12 No.9105826
    Indeed. It's been awhile since we've shot the shit with our troops beyond a bit of a chat, hasn't it?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:12 No.9105834
    David- Act with BEAM GUN FUCK YEAH
    jol- desert zaku? Zaku cannon? our zaku?
    zol- custom
    elane- geshia, our zaku, desert zaku, gigan
    hovis -Guess?
    hobes Again, guess
    bernie- desert or el
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:12 No.9105836

    So uh, no chance of a captured beam sabre too eh?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:14 No.9105855
    It's a Gundam!
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)13:16 No.9105879
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    So, who's up for shooting the shit with the team while we load up the suits/ moon over our new beam rifle.
    >> Crix !!RpOLjtsjwNS 04/10/10(Sat)13:17 No.9105893
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    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:17 No.9105898
    I'm all for that. They need to be praised for their hard work in Canada. We didn't even get one MS kill.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:18 No.9105902
    Take this time to send combat data back about the new suits
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:19 No.9105911
    Bright: Amuro! There's a Zaku advancing from your flank!

    Amuro: What? It only has some kind of machine gun...

    Lister: *Insert trollface* NO MACHINE GUN, BOY, NO MACHINE GUN


    Mos def, let's see where everyone is at in their heads, plan barbeques, whatever. No discussions on retiring or getting married allowed though.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:19 No.9105917
    Agreed, We need to connect with the team more, we work great together but they need to know we appreciate them and we probably wouldn't be alive without them.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)13:20 No.9105924

    You ask Jolyne about what type of MS she would like to pilot. She seems to think about it for a second.
    "Well, I've gotten a fair few hours with the Dom Cannon down, so I guess I'd like to give the Pezun Dowdage a go when it get's back from the shop. I guess in the meantime, I'll stick with the Gasshia."

    I guess that sorts that...

    BRB Dinner.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:21 No.9105932
    We should talk with our infantry too, the got ambushed, napalmed, saved our asses and we haven't said a word to them

    We're dicks
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)13:22 No.9105949

    Oh yeah.... medals for everyone, and a talk about how grateful we are for them.

    They are true badasses of the Zeonic Earth Attack Force.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:23 No.9105960
    Shit, they're still alive? Send the a gift card or something.

    Oh, better yet, pick one who did something awesome and give him a plaque, then prep them for attacking White Base.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)13:28 No.9106018

    I have this image of infantry hanging off the back of our mobile suits.

    ... it seems so awesome yet impractical.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:28 No.9106019
    We have to write that book about them. They're good spotters, scouts, ambushers, and more.

    There the reason we killed flea and shadow, and there the reason bandit didn't get a jump on anyone and kill them.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:28 No.9106021
    oh, Apologised, what happened to Foxbat? Last time Jol captured them and the command tank so did we turn them over to Military Intelligence?
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)13:32 No.9106050

    I think shes still holding him. All through the flight.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:33 No.9106064
    They're dating
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:33 No.9106071
    i find that image hilarious for some reason.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:34 No.9106082
    >Hold oooon
    >Through the niiiiiiiiiiight
    >There will beeeeeeeeee noooooo shaaaaaaaame

    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)13:35 No.9106086

    Foxbat: C-can I get down now?
    Jolyne: No.
    Foxbat: I mean... theres no bathroom in here and I-
    Jolyne: Shh, you're ruining the moment...
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:38 No.9106128
    wait, don't those have a crew of two or more?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:39 No.9106142
    Jol was found in a bed with us and zol....
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:39 No.9106154
    Next time we go into psychedelic nekkid newtype time, we have to sing that.

    Hard Mode: No matter who we're with
    Nightmare Mode: It's Char
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)13:40 No.9106157

    Foxbat.... you know there's 3 of us in h-
    Jolyne: Don't care.
    Foxbat: You're a b-
    Jolyne:*shakes the hovertank*
    Foxbat: Nyaaaaaa
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:40 No.9106158
    To be fair word of god states Zol put us there.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:40 No.9106161
    >> Crix !!RpOLjtsjwNS 04/10/10(Sat)13:40 No.9106168
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    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:41 No.9106182
    And then he laid down too?

    The hell was going through his fro?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:42 No.9106189
    OH JESUS CHRIST WTF mode: It's Amuro.

    On a related note is it possible for more than two people to be in the same Nekkid newtype time?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:43 No.9106200
    He was fucking with our heads.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:44 No.9106224

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:47 No.9106267
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    >Newtype garma
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:49 No.9106294
    I'm REALLY ok with this mode: Jolyne and Elaine
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:50 No.9106307
    and zol
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:51 No.9106322
    That would be orgasmic.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:51 No.9106333
    Speaking of all the females and androgynous males we associate with, whatever happened to our operator? Did she stick with the Outer Heaven?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:52 No.9106343
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)13:53 No.9106350

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:54 No.9106369
    Anyone remember her name?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:55 No.9106383
    ....Bridge bunny?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:55 No.9106388
    Yep. I think so.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)13:55 No.9106392
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    C-can we get one apologized? :3
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:56 No.9106419
    Something Fairchild, I think.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:57 No.9106427
    Our operator looks alot like the bottem right
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)13:59 No.9106459
    ...Well this is embarressing.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)14:00 No.9106477

    When we see her, and try to remember her name, we can sureptitiously look at her name on her uniform.

    ... YEAH. David Lister! Master of Social Etiquette!
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:01 No.9106494
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:02 No.9106504
    Do Bridge bunnies even get nametags?>>9106419
    Yeah, it was something like that.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:02 No.9106506
    And none of us look back to the archives

    God we're classy
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)14:02 No.9106507

    Hilarious as all this is, no you handed him off to Zeon intelligence.


    You check in to see how the Outer Heaven is doing. It's almost finished, just a couple more days and it should be ready.
    You load up and head off to the battlezone, hopefully you wont miss anything overly vital...
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:03 No.9106524
    >hopefully you wont miss anything overly vital...

    i'm sure the support team did fine
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:03 No.9106532

    Go straigh to Garma. I don't trust your ellipses.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)14:04 No.9106546
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    Why you do this Apologized? D:
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:10 No.9106629
    uh-oh, he's writing
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)14:10 No.9106640
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    After a moderate breakfast you receive report that Nachtmaren arrived at Edmonton yesterday without issue.
    You then move to the Ops Room in this old Federation Base you've secured for your activities in this area.

    Char is already up in the room, looking at the Tactical map. Before you left for bed, you gave the order to run hit-&-run attacks on the Trojan Horse to try and sap it's moral, and you've yet to see an update.

    >> Toledo Steel !HwBAMzgqeE 04/10/10(Sat)14:10 No.9106641
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    Man, why are we going so slow? We need to hurry and not miss anything important!
    >> Abaddon 04/10/10(Sat)14:11 No.9106652

    GARma is safe till we reach Seattle. then his plot armor dissipates into a large ball of SIGE ZEON!
    >> Toledo Steel !HwBAMzgqeE 04/10/10(Sat)14:12 No.9106667
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    WELL. Why don't we load up into a mobile suit and see how its going for ourselves?! I mean, what could possibly go wrong with such a plan?!?
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)14:12 No.9106669

    Run hand through hair
    Hand our good buddy Char a cup of coffee.
    See about updates. Personally. David has taught us the value of first hand accounts yes?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:12 No.9106671
    Style out hair, never stop
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:13 No.9106683
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    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)14:14 No.9106700
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    Forgot my picture... <_<
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:15 No.9106708
    ask for an update of course
    >> Abaddon 04/10/10(Sat)14:15 No.9106715

    or until we take direct control of GARma and commit suicide by attacking the gundam in a stupid fashion
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:16 No.9106718
    You have a bad feeling, get your most trusted people to watch your back.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:16 No.9106722
    Do anything else that needs doing and get an update on the hit and runs as well as the time Nachtmaren are supposed to be back here (if Garma know their coming).
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:20 No.9106771
    He just got word we landed in canada, this is happening a day ago
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)14:20 No.9106775
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    >Run hand through hair

    The hair ruffles luxuriantly


    >Hand our good buddy Char a cup of coffee.

    You take a cup of coffee and off it to Char, he accepts it good naturedly.

    >See about updates. Personally. David has taught us the value of first hand accounts yes?

    "So Char, any developments since last night?"

    "The Trojan Horse snuck down low, but kept it's speed up to provide defences against our hit and run air attacks. It's also trying to avoid detection by relying on the heavy Minovsky density within the area."

    "Avoid detection? Something as brightly coloured as that?" You scoff. The irony of that is lost on you, and Char.

    "During the day yes, but at night the dark still provides ample cover."

    "Yes, I suppose so. How go the hit and run attacks?"

    "With them so low, we're having difficulty making successful attack runs, that's mitigated a lot of the damage. Also, the recon elements nearly lost the ship a couple of times overnight. As you said, were lucky the ship is so brightly coloured, or we may have lost it completely."

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:21 No.9106795
    "perhaps we should attack it with wappa mounted infantry"
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:23 No.9106823
    God we need to get zol one of those

    also see if we can find out their path, set up an ambush or a shelling if we can plan it out

    Hell why not both? quick ambush and pull out before gundam comes out
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)14:23 No.9106825
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    When you said that I took the song 'Strangers in the night' and replaced it with "Wappas in the night" and started giggling uncontrollably.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:25 No.9106851
    Well, why don't we catch it in a pincer, shell the enclosed area and break off before the Gundam can come out?
    >> Abaddon 04/10/10(Sat)14:25 No.9106861
    we should lure The White Base into a designated artillery ground. round up all the hildorfs we can and fire upon it. the white base only has 3 mobile suits. or better yet lure it into the grand Canyon then shell the crap out of it.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:26 No.9106866
    We need a cunning plan...

    If we have an idea of their heading and if we can nudge them just so... Any chance we could put a moral obstacle in their way? Get a fake Feddie emergency beacon to come from a deserted outpost and make them suspicious.

    If they go check it out, they'll find THE RED COMET

    If they don't, we blow the shit out of the place and some of them might feel bummed they totally ignored feddies in need.

    Rinse, repeat with a different flavor. EAT AT THEIR GOODY-TWO-SHOENESS
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:26 No.9106882
    With White Base so low maybe wappas and jetpack troopers on Cuis could plant some remote/timed charges on White Base. Maybe time it for right after (or during) a hit and run air attack.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:29 No.9106916

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:29 No.9106920
    What about that hole we made? Maybe we should have an AA dropped in the path of the base hide then when it pass overhead BAM destroy the engine.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:31 No.9106958

    Good job Anon. Have a Cigar.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)14:31 No.9106960
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    Whilst the vessel is travelling low, it's also travelling very fast, apparently it's already managed to clip the cliff face a couple of times in it's haste.
    Getting Wappas to catch up with it and stay on is going to be difficult.
    Also, you only have a small unit of Mechanised Infantry and Wappas. If you DO mount the infantry attack, you'd want to make sure that you'd stand the best chance of pulling it off, as you wont get a second shot.

    As for catching in a pincer, it's path is erratic, looking at it's suspected route thus far, you're not even sure if the pilot of this vessel knows where he's going.
    Maybe if you used some kind of decoy emergency beacon? You'll have to ask Char about how viable that would be...

    "Sir, I've got a communication incoming, it's from... the Trojan Horse?"

    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)14:31 No.9106964
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    Lets see.

    Tell Char to catch some sleep or at least to relax a bit, hes the best counter we have to the Gundam.

    See if we can update his Zaku to an F2 (unless Char's command variant[I think] is better. Possibly with better weaponry). Then ask Char if that'd help the playing field.

    Give a speech to the troops going out on the next sortie against White Base.

    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)14:32 No.9106990

    We answer. Then my previous post.

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:33 No.9106996
    Well I suppose we can take it what if they want to surrender or something.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:33 No.9107003
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:34 No.9107018
    Also make sure to run you hand through your hair during the conversation.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:34 No.9107020
    Sounds like we should accept the call.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:34 No.9107029
    Listen, be polite. Don't antagonise them. Maybe we can get them to stand down.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:35 No.9107046

    Let's say hello, keep cool, listen to what they have to say. We mention nothing about surrendering or whatever, unless they do it first.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)14:36 No.9107064
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    Also we dont let Char take the mic from us.

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:37 No.9107077
    Answer the phone with our manly voice.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:40 No.9107133

    DO NOT PERSONALLY MOUNT UP, atleast untill David comes back and can slap a fabulous fucker into keeping himself alive.

    Thats about all i've got, more arty would be nice.

    Speaking of which do we have access to any medium distance cruse missiles? Try to disrupt the White bases course and get it to gain altitude for straifing runs at its relativly underprotected underside/expose the engine damage we already did. Assuming it hasn't met up with feddie repair teams operating from jaburo.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)14:44 No.9107186

    Minozski interference will disrupt their guidance and getting a trajectory on a moving target..... maybe. But we'd need a hell of a lot...
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)14:44 No.9107194
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    The comms attendant takes the message and then relays it to you.
    Apparently, they want a temporary ceasefire so that they can offload refugees who had to take shelter during the attack on Side 7.

    On the one hand, this would me taking the pressure off the Trojan Horse for the duration, on the other it would allow you dictate that the ship stay in one location while it does so, allowing you concentrate your forces and encircle it.

    >> Zeta Zaku 04/10/10(Sat)14:46 No.9107212
    Char's Zaku S seems to be customized to amazing levels. If he turned down David's recommendation on upgrading to an Act, then an F2 isn't going to be very tempting to him.

    Anyway, answer them and be sure to flaunt our fabulous purple locks and the massive charisma bonus they give us.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:46 No.9107217
    Tell them were to land, we're going to send unarmed men to help them offload

    this way they can't do anything tricky, we look like heros and if they try to fuck up our tropps, whoops seems like we were armed, White base is ours
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:47 No.9107233
    Allow it we are not monster after all. Try to get someone to have a look at it so we know what their status is. I'll leave the tactical discussion to other anon.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)14:47 No.9107234
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    We are a Friend to David Lister.

    Say we will allow the offloading of all civilian personel, as well as any military troops who have surrendered their arms.

    Give them Garma Zabi's personal approval that the civillians will be treated with all due respect, with regards to the civil treatment of noncombatants as outlined in the Antartic Treaty.

    For realsies?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:48 No.9107247
    Suggest a mutual defence of the offload to ensure no funny business goes on.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)14:48 No.9107250

    We will also offer medical aid to those who have left the ship under those terms.
    >> Toledo Steel !HwBAMzgqeE 04/10/10(Sat)14:48 No.9107267

    Allow them to offload refugees, we are after all the good guys here. Also set up our biggest guns to be pointing that way, we're not fools either.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:49 No.9107275
    Part 55?! Wow. I bet /tg/ got this far because they played it so smart, and not because this is a bad fanfiction for a shitty anime.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:49 No.9107280

    I'm not talking about targeting a moving target. Nor am I talking about little anti-sir missiles that need to be small to manuver.

    Fixed target rocket fire still works in UC, the missiles themselves just need to be large enough for the guidance systems to be shielded.

    Target the white base's route not it. Dopps can do the actual damage the missiles just need to make the mountain ranges its moving in too risky
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:49 No.9107284

    we do the righht thing, they don't do anything tricky
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:49 No.9107285
    Agreed. We use this chance to ensure that our forces are in position to keep tracking and harassing it.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:51 No.9107298
    Agree, tell them where to land, take care of the refugees, but do not go there personally.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:51 No.9107303
    Tell them just that.

    We'll let the civilians off, but make sure they understand we intend to destroy them. Maybe hint that David Lister is a bit of a softy, but if there was nothing (for instance: civilian meatshield) protecting the White Base anymore, he might get serious.

    Perhaps we might inquire to the "Crewmen by Necessity" they have. We know we killed off the intended crew, let's extend the offer to the entire crew.

    This might be deal breaking, but I'm certainly in favor off letting the civilians off. We're the civil son of Zabi, not Gihren.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)14:51 No.9107307

    With orders that we will only continue on OUR EXPRESS ORDERS.

    Not Chars, Not Davids, not even if the SPIRIT OF ALL ZEON PASTS RISE FROM THE GRAVE.

    Garma's Authority and Garma's alone.
    >> Toledo Steel !HwBAMzgqeE 04/10/10(Sat)14:52 No.9107316

    Perhaps we could tell them to go to position x and have DAVE LISTER Ace of the Zeonic forces there to make sure no funny stuff goes down.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:52 No.9107331
    >to make sure no funny stuff goes down

    And then shoot out one of the white base's engines right?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:53 No.9107341
    we need someone with experience, i could see some green horn there fuck it all up by shooting and then it's all over

    Char has a level head, so either him or us
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:54 No.9107352
    He just arrived in canada, he's not going to be back for a whole day +
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)14:54 No.9107363
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    If we're going to assist them we send:


    No escorts, nobody armed.

    We do not harm civilians. We're Garma Zabi, and we approve this message.
    >> Toledo Steel !HwBAMzgqeE 04/10/10(Sat)14:55 No.9107372

    Well, we don't need to say they can offload NOW, we could say in a few days, it takes time to prepare to take in refugees after all.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)14:57 No.9107406
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    Is it possible we can get a Dopp recon element to do some watching and transmitting through laser comms.

    This would make good propaganda, whichever way it goes.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)14:58 No.9107414
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    We've got to have some deniability if things go to crap... proof would be good too.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)14:59 No.9107428
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    you agree to the ceasefire agreement. White base states that it will launch a transport which will contain the refugees, and it will land nearby and offload the refugees before returning to the ship.

    You give the okay, and then order several squads of Zaku's and Magella tanks to move up to the Trojan Horse's position. Once the refugees have been dropped you intend to hit them with everything you've got.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)14:59 No.9107431
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    What's that? You're halfway through your journey to choke on a million dicks? Good job, anon! Keep at it! I'm sure you'll reach your goal one day!
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:01 No.9107459
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:02 No.9107481
    Send some spy planes and wappa infantry to ensure that it's just refugees and not anything tricky.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:04 No.9107506
    To: Commanding Officer Federation ship "Trojan Horse"
    From: Captain Garma Zabi

    In times of war, the darkest side of mankind is revealed. Our hate and desire often blind our sense of humanity. For all the evil committed in its name, I feel only regret and sorrow.

    I will grant you your ceasefire on the following conditions:

    1. I will designate the location for the drop and the allotted time of the ceasefire.

    2. I will provide transportation, medical care, and all basic human rights required by those who leave your ship.

    3. YOU will not betray this offer of humanity.

    Specifics can be hashed out at your earliest opportunity.

    Captain Garma
    Captain Garma's hair
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:04 No.9107508
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    >Her newtype ability is a close combat dream

    Not really. Think Dio with Rockets instead of knifes and a battlefield full of things waiting to be rocketted.

    There's only so much slashan you can do but the upper limit of how many rockets we can send flying is only dictated by SCIENCE!
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)15:04 No.9107515
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    We need to radio them back Apologized.

    This is a request to us.

    We WILL abide by the antartic treaty, and we will provide them medical care.

    But we will NOT let an unknown enemy transport leave the area of engagement.

    Also. Acguy.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:05 No.9107523
    They're not going to land the white base, merely send off a ship containing refugees. We let the refugees go free then it's back to business.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)15:05 No.9107524


    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:06 No.9107532
    Being able to move FASTER THAN THE MIND IS AWARE is not good for cc?

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:07 No.9107544
    No. She may be able to move at light speed, but that doesn't make the missile's realoading ability any better.

    The gouf was able to bend like that in that time and zol's thrusters were able to go full blast, fireing more missiles before they're out of the tube? impossible
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:08 No.9107567
    Who knows what they could hide in a transport. Contact them and insist that we provide unarmed transports to help the refugees evacuate the combat zone.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:08 No.9107573
    We're making the terms here, we could keep them on board and just bomb them if they prefer

    They're doing it our way or they are NOT doing it
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:09 No.9107584
    Thirding. All movement is with our trucks/ships nothing comes out of the White Base besides people, anything else is treachery.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:10 No.9107618
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)15:12 No.9107651
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    You've been following the Trojan Horse since last night, off an on, you lost for a couple hours this morning before sunrise, but you find it soon after. Now though you're getting new orders.

    The Feds have asked for a ceasefire so that they can get rid of onboard civilians. They'll be doing via an on board air-transport mission. It will be your job to escort the transport and make sure it's a legitimate refugee mission.

    Around 2 in the afternoon, the Trojan Horse stops in an open area and launches it's transport.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:12 No.9107655
    We've been fairly easy on you in the past for doing omething completely different then we suggest, but this time I'm holding firm.

    It's quite obvious no one likes this course of action. Recommend you read the above posts.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:14 No.9107685
    Please pause to review our past suggestions, we do not want this.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:14 No.9107687
    apologised, stop. No one want's this.
    >> Toledo Steel !HwBAMzgqeE 04/10/10(Sat)15:14 No.9107688

    In before that air transport gets shot down by mystery fire for a propaganga victory for the Feddies. Either that or its filled with commandos.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:14 No.9107689
    Come on apologised, what the fuck man.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:15 No.9107703
    Apologized, you're a good quest runner, but you're completely ignoring us now. Please, either decide whether you want to continue this as a quest or as a fanfic; you're cheating everyone involved if you don't make up your mind.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:16 No.9107722
    Gonna let everyone know this now, if he keeps going im gonna image spam.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:16 No.9107727
    I love the smell of metagaming in the morning.

    Too bad it's afternoon here.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:16 No.9107730
    Don't be a dick.
    you too.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:17 No.9107757
    How is that metagaming?

    A military vessel wants to dislodge something and needs our cooperation to do it, and we're not going to be suspicious as fuck?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:19 No.9107799

    FYI, it's because unlike 90% of Zeonquest thus far, this comes directly from the tv series, Episode 8 I believe. Unfortunately for anyone who's seen that episode it's impossible not to meta-game.

    But yeah, I don't see why Garma can't lay down the law and refuse to give the Gunperry free reign.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)15:19 No.9107810
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    It's an ugly ungainly thing in bright colours. You wonder if the person who designed the stuff for project V was colour blind.

    You pull along side it and follow it.

    "Where do you think they're going? Nothing around here but this lake." you Co-Pilot, a particularily gormless individual called Hawmenn asks.

    You just shrug.

    Captain Garma calls you over the radio.

    "Can you confirm that they're carrying refugees Luggun 'Big John'? " he orders.

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:20 No.9107815
    Oh for fuck's sake Apologised what the hell?

    I really like this quest but this is just not cool.
    >> Toledo Steel !HwBAMzgqeE 04/10/10(Sat)15:20 No.9107824

    I thought we agreed we wanted it to be done via unarmed ground transports provided by Zeon. I can therefore only assume that this is a ruse and that air transport is really a disguised GUNDAM. Time to bug out and warn everyone.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:21 No.9107838
    Is it really still metagaming if it's a sound strategic choice?

    Show them we're not jerks while at the same time refusing to let our security be compromised. Maybe show off a little muscle in the process?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)15:21 No.9107849

    He is. He's basically told the Luggun to watch this Gunperry like a hawk. If they try anything funny, it sprays it with machinegun fire and he calls in the Air-Cavalry.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:21 No.9107853
    Confirmed for not caring ;__;
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)15:21 No.9107855
    I haven't seen the original Gundam series.

    My only exposure to it is 08th MS team and Stardust Memory.

    But okay I guess... <_<
    >> Toledo Steel !HwBAMzgqeE 04/10/10(Sat)15:21 No.9107857


    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:22 No.9107861
    We've already changed things, what with garma using a fuckin efreet as one example. We should be able to change this too
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:22 No.9107875
    As John I'd suggest to whoever's on the radio that an airborne refugee evac is just screaming trap and that any commander with a minor amount of common sense would not let the Federation dictate how this goes down.

    But I'm just a silent mouthpiece pilot so screw me.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:23 No.9107885
    Yeah but that was not what a single person in the thread suggested.

    It's a downright bad idea.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:23 No.9107893
    Inb4 Garma tells us to shoot it down.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:23 No.9107899
    We said do it by ground and the Feds pull this. Inform Garma and bug out. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:24 No.9107912
    Crash our plane into the transport

    For justice
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:24 No.9107915
    As someone who never watched the original series, no.

    Garma has personally, with his own eyes, watched bullets bounce off of the Gundam harmlessly. This is not adequate.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:25 No.9107937
    Big John is a blood thirsty maniac

    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)15:26 No.9107951
    Fine, we do it this way.

    They screw with us: under truce.

    No mercy.

    No regret.

    We will have the Trojan horse a burning hulk.

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:26 No.9107955

    Yeah, even if it shoots the Gunperry down the Gundam, if it is inside, would be completely unharmed. Probably jump out of the flaming wreckage and blast the Luggun to pieces.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:27 No.9107971
    Also leaves WB rather undefended for a while when we hit it with EVERYTHING
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:27 No.9107975
    What the fuck man. "Hey, look, I'll set up a quest thread and ignore everyone in it! That's a fine plan!"

    Seriously, cut with this bullshit.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)15:27 No.9107976
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    Fearing that this may be some kind of trap, you fly in close an attempt to look in through the windows. You notice that the transport has taken some heavy damage already, probably from earlier fighting.
    You peer into the windows, you see a motley collection of people, mostly old men, some kids in uniform who can't be much older than 14, even a woman with a child.
    The child waves at you. Reminded of your own son back in Side 5 you wave back.

    They LOOK like refugees, but you aren't letting them out of your sight until it's back inside the Trojan Horse that's for sure.

    "It looks legit from here Captain Garma, although I'd feel a little happier with a stronger fighter escort."

    "Unfortunately, all of our fighters are currently around the Trojan Horse. Once this ceasefire is over, I'm mounting a major assault."

    "I think this transport COULD be big enough to store a mobile suit sir..." you comment.

    You hear conversations in the background, but before you get a response, smoke begins pouring out of the cargo bay, and the transport begins to descend unsteadily.

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:27 No.9107984
    Which is why we should have done this under heavy guard and scrutiny on the ground. So noone could pull any shenanigans.

    If we try something the trojan horse turns us into paste with its mounted weaponry. If the horse tries something our pre-sighted arty turns everything in a 1km radius into scrap.
    >> Toledo Steel !HwBAMzgqeE 04/10/10(Sat)15:27 No.9107986
    Honestly I've never seen any of this series so could someone fill me in as to the meta of whats going on here? Though honestly, even someone whos only millitary experience is watching WW2 films would be able to point and shout about how this is a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE PLAN. You just don't let enemy air units launch off on their own on the basic assumption they are carrying refugees. Especially not in a war zone. Especially not in a limited time only ceasefire. Doubly especially not when your enemies forces consist of super robots that can probably fly and also hide in said air transport.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:29 No.9108009

    Sorry man, but when it doesn't feel like our votes have any real use at crucial times I just can't bring myself to care any more. Yesterday you barely gave us any choices at all and just wiped out several significant enemies without any input from us at all. Here everyone was explicitly saying "We say we will send unarmed transports over to evacuate the refugees" and you instead had Garma say "Okay get them evacuated however you want."

    I'm out.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:29 No.9108026
    I haven't seen the series since its run on toonami. But simple logic tells me it's a trap of some sort, most likely involving the Gundam, and death for the brave men of Zeon.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:30 No.9108030
    GGundamfag here, never seen the original series. But this is a dumb ass plan, and OP is being an ass about it. You want to make a fanfic, don't do it with a quest
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)15:30 No.9108036
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    Yeaah... but what are we gonna do?


    Apologized, please make this awesome.

    We're feeling a little left out here.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:31 No.9108058
    It seems rather silly that smoke would just suddenly start pouring out like that. Have the luggan signal the transport and ask if they need assistance. If they do, help. If they don't, continue to watch them like a hawk.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:31 No.9108063
    >Yeaah... but what are we gonna do?

    Voice our displeasure and hope Apologised comes to his senses before alienating most of the people in the thread?

    I mean it's his thread and he can shit it up all he wants, but it's still shitting.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:32 No.9108071

    See if we can't relay them coordinates for an emergency landing. Prepare rescue teams. Watch for anything else suspicious.
    >> Toledo Steel !HwBAMzgqeE 04/10/10(Sat)15:34 No.9108106

    Since we seemingly have no say as per par of actual actions, all I can suggest is that we get a live visual feed of whats going on as well as radio people who count. Currently thats no one, so lets just get the video feed going, maybe the aircraft investigators can tell us what happened after they've crashed and burned.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:34 No.9108110
    Oh, stop being a childish twat.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:34 No.9108118

    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)15:35 No.9108123
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    You squawk out that the transport is currently on fire, it's on an open radio band so both sides probably heard it.
    Then you switch back to a secure laser comm line.

    "It's pouring smoke, and making for what looks like a crash landing. I'm now more suspicious than ever that this COULD be a trap."

    "Boss! I'm getting communications from the transport that she's suffered a major failure caused by earlier damage and it's going to make a crash landing. He says that the refugees will be dismebarking if they survive, and the crew will return to White Base by rocket pack."

    You call up HQ again for an update.

    "Lt. Commander Char agrees with you Corporal, and he's currently flying over along with a wingman in the Kommusai. Hold your position."

    This is problematic, as patrolling over the Gunperry will mean leaving Federal troops with rocket packs to their own devices.

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:35 No.9108127
    Nah, I'm good. If he does turn it around I'll delete the post though. I'm not a total asshole
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:36 No.9108139
    >and the crew will return to White Base by rocket pack.
    No, no they won't.

    Inform the transport that if anyone leaves the ship, fuck if it goddamn twitches, before Zeon rescue forces arrive it will be destroyed in the most violent way you can manage.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:36 No.9108148
    Why the hell are there TROOPS WITH ROCKET PACKS mixed with refugees?

    Shoot it down. We are not fools.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:37 No.9108151
    Take evasive manouvers just in case they attack, don't leave yourself as a target. And STOP IGNORING US!
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)15:37 No.9108158

    I believe whats going on is the difference between Canon and our own little AU.

    Its just so... frustrating Apologized.

    Can I suggest we put a hold on further actions and we discuss this like the elegan/tg/entlemen we all are?

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:37 No.9108163
    Logically, to pilot it.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:38 No.9108174
    That's not necessary. Maybe it is an actual mechanical failure, and rocket packs would work better than parachutes for ditching a plane and getting back to your airborne base.

    But letting them egress would be a terrible idea. A joint rescue OP in the name of cooperation fine. But just leaving a boatload of 'refugees' is a shit idea.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:38 No.9108176
    I'll second this.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:39 No.9108191

    I second that. Everyone sits tight until we've taken the civilians into custody. Anyone who does not will be shot.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)15:40 No.9108204
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    I love this quest series. Its been entertaining. With that said, our input seems to account for less and less.

    Some of us have seen the whole gundam series. Some of us have not.

    And I GET the fact that its sometimes hard to see what is meta gaming and what isn't.

    But our input should be heard, or at least acknowledged. C'mon Apologized, we've been through so much together.

    Don't let it end like this. D:
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:40 No.9108205
    Just an explanation as to why he ignored everyone in the thread would be nice. Maybe there's no good LZ's in a reasonable area or something.

    But c'mon, don't just ignore everyone and then continue on like nothing happened while half the thread flips shit.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:40 No.9108208
    Apologised... just stop with the actions for a minute. I really agree with >>9108158 here in that we need to get this talked about now.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:41 No.9108231
    Save the thread and save the quest Apologized.

    My time zone and life schedule have made enjoying Zeonquest very difficult, but I have still managed to do so, please don't make it all in vain.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)15:42 No.9108241

    Stop for now please.

    We'll hopefully get an answer.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:42 No.9108249

    Seriously, apologized. At this rate Zeonquest will probably be killed by everyone being pissed off.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:42 No.9108257
    Derp thread don't go like I want it to so I'll bomb the thread amirite.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:42 No.9108258
    Alright anon
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)15:43 No.9108267
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    You order the Gunperry crew to stay with the ship when they land, and that under no circumstances is anybody to leave until after they've been checked by incoming ground forces for if they're spies.

    The crew strongly protest, claiming that this would be a breach of the ceasefire. You tell them they can tell it to Char Aznable when he get's here.
    That shut's them up

    The Gunperry hit's the ground flattening a row of palm trees.

    You circle overhead, asking for a situation update from HQ. They report that Char should be five minutes out, the ground troops 15.
    They're bombarding the area with minovsky particles. to prevent the Trojan Horse from realising that you've breached the ceasefire arrangement.
    You continue to circle overhead.

    Suddenly, there is a flash of light.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:44 No.9108282
    It's more like he won't listen to anyone, and he ignored the people saying "Stop" so yeah, i'll spam the thread untill he at least adresses it, and if he goes so far as to fix it i'll delete all these image post

    Just gotta see what he does now
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:44 No.9108286
    >you've breached the ceasefire arrangement.

    How the fuck have we breached the ceasefire?

    The feddies trying to sneak troops in with the refugees broke the damn ceasefire. We're just being sane and military like in our security details.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:44 No.9108291
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:44 No.9108292
    How did we breach the ceasefire? We never fired, we've done nothing we haven't agreed to.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)15:45 No.9108304

    Oh Apologised.

    Please stop.

    I know its late over there in the UK, but after all we've been through....
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:46 No.9108307
    You're not helping anyone though, you're not making a point, you're just shitting up the thread.

    I may not be quite thrilled with OP, but I'm not going to throw a fit to make my point about common decency in discourse.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:46 No.9108311
    Stop posting for a second and listen to us Apologised.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:46 No.9108315
    You are an even bigger fag than Apologized.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:47 No.9108319
    >There is a flash of light.

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:47 No.9108323
    I'm thinking Apologized is bored with the quest and wants to end it, but doesn't want to come out and say it; thus, he ignores us and tries to get those of us that have enjoyed his work so far to kill it so he doesn't feel guilty...

    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)15:49 No.9108343

    Look. I decided to follow the events of the show. As a result, things are more heavily on the rails than they were normally.

    Secondly, people said "yes, go with the ceasefire." so I went with the ceasefire: As it was presented in the show. I did this because these were events that happened in the show.
    I recognised that this was an unpopular decision, so I decided to go "fuck it" and just go with whatever you suggested.

    As a result, we are now well and truly off how it went in the show.

    Now, I can only assume the exact arrangements for the drop-off were as follows.

    1. The Trojan horse selects a site and stops there for the duration of the ceasefire
    2. The Zeonic forces do not attack Trojan Horse and attatched units during this time.
    3. The refugee transport is under constant escort and does not deviate from the flight path set out by Zeonic HQ until it reaches the designated landing zone.
    4. The Tranport then returns to the Trojan Horse
    5. Ceasefire over.

    Any deviation from this is considered a breach of the ceasefire.

    There, does THAT make sense now?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:49 No.9108345

    This isn't ignoring us, he's finally deviating from the Canon in the manner we suggested.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:49 No.9108348
    This is how Zeonquest ends.

    Not with a bang, but Apologized trolling the hell out of all of us.

    Feels bad man
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:51 No.9108366
    I want him to keep going even if we are the main character of the quest there is no reason for the rest of our team to score MS kills. Even more we are not garma or john the fact that we have less to say in what they do is fine with me. I enjoy having a break once in a while.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:51 No.9108367
    Makes sense to me.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:51 No.9108368
    Thank God! I tought I was ging to have to quit the quest.

    Thank you for giving us an actual reason.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:51 No.9108370
    >Look. I decided to follow the events of the show.

    And what on earth made you think that was a good decision when everyone who posted was saying "Accept the ceasefire BUT..."?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:51 No.9108374

    Maybe he's just misinterpreted our wishes. If he REPEATEDLY ignores them (he's following up on the previous 'offense' right now), THEN there's a problem. Just sit back, relax, and let the music invade your senses.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:51 No.9108375
    I still don't like it, but it makes sense and I thank you for the explanation.

    Now, would that have been so hard to have said before and avoided this shitstorm.
    >> Crix !!RpOLjtsjwNS 04/10/10(Sat)15:51 No.9108378
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    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)15:51 No.9108383

    Absolutely apologized.

    But we just wish you'd explain that to us before going ahead with it.

    Sorry if this is aggravating to you man, but we'd just like some acknowledgment.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:53 No.9108401
    You gave us a choice. We had a plan, a fully logical and reasonable one that makes a hell of a lot more sense than the show. You then ignored said plan just to go with the show, the deviation from IS WHERE THE FUN COMES FROM. Quests in settings from shows or games are great in that you have "what if" scenarios. Nobody complained that the Gundam got lots of plot armor; you came out and said it, we thought that worked out well and everyone was happy. If there are conditions we have to work within for our plans, outline them before choosing to ignore everything we say.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:53 No.9108402
    You do realize by giving into these whiny faggots and their bitchfits, that when you don't let them kill White Base and Gundam, they're going to throw another hissy bitchfit and troll up everything, right?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:53 No.9108406
    You don't have to go the course of the show, that is the ENTIRE POINT OF THIS QUEST

    just do what we ask when you ask our opinion
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:54 No.9108416
    O.k. Now that that is out of the way please continue.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)15:54 No.9108419
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    With all of that said Apologised.

    I have to ask you, do you wish to follow the shows canon?

    We all seemed to have more fun when it was just a guideline.

    Ya know?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)15:54 No.9108423

    I was trying to keep my posts fast and short like people kept telling me to do yesterday.
    As result, I probably went over certain parts that with hindsight I should have fleshed out.

    It doesn't help that I feel like shit and have done all week, and have no idea what it is.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:54 No.9108424
    There is a difference between saying "No, it doesn't work that way" and "Ignoring a completely legitimate plan." This is the latter, saying "lol, I kill the gundam" is the former.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:55 No.9108431
    The point of this quest is to allow us to play David Lister/Natcharen the fact that he allow us to order around Garma and other pilots is a plus.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:55 No.9108434
    I'd never do that, and as I said I deleted the images. I'm not some troll, he asked us what we wanted to do then did something else, that is not a quest thread and that's way different from "Our underpowered suit wins the war because I say so!"

    If we don't kill the gundam, fine there's a reason for it. Cease fire conditions that everyone is agreeing on being ignored? i draw the line
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:56 No.9108439
    If you feel like shit take a break.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:56 No.9108442
    Apologised, take today off. We can restart part55 from scratch when you are feeling better; doing it in this state isn't healthy for you or the quest.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)15:56 No.9108443

    Maybe you need a break from this Apologised?

    I have to admit, doing a thread like this on a regular basis may be tiring.

    And don't worry too much about Cannon.

    Sometimes cannon story isn't as fun yeah?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)15:56 No.9108445

    The problem is that were directly interfacing with the show now. It's also hard to NOT have to do these events as they directly concern Garma. So I sort of have to approach the episodes, which are linear in nature, in some kind of non-linear fashion with elements of choice.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:57 No.9108451

    I can appreciate and understand your reasons Apologized, but it sure seems different this time then when we were in Episodes 5-7. That time things differed from the canon, but because Gundam and White Base were still so powerful the end result was more less the same. Following the initial suggestions about using jeeps may have made this episode very different, but I think the end result would still have been more or less the same.

    Unfortunately this issue is not going to go away, although how big of an issue it's going to be depends on how much of the OYW we've changed.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)15:58 No.9108480
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    I getcha.

    But it probably would have been fun to do some back and forth with demands from the Trojan Horse to get to where we are now.

    But I understand your need to balance the linearity of GarmaQuest with Zeonquest.

    Maybe therin lies the problem: We shouldn't show up and do PoV section during canon moments?

    Maybe we should exclusively stay with David Lister and the things he can only personally affect?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:59 No.9108484
    So maybe we should just stay as David and only hear about what Garma does.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:59 No.9108488
    Yeah... But I thought we had made Garma a better leader? Wasn't that the point of like a good deal of threads? I mean, why would he make the exact same decisions if he's a (at least slightly) different person now?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)15:59 No.9108492
    This is a good point. If you're not going to give us a choice, then don't say "YOUR ORDERS." Just put a little tag "Cutscene mode, we'll get back to Lister in a moment"
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:00 No.9108500
    This does not address our complaints and I'm disappointed by those who think it does.

    Feel free to take a break, I would have no qualms.

    However, this event has really shaken my involvement. Maybe I'm just one anon in the grand scheme of things, but I'm attached to this quest. I was the guy who gave the picture of our first logo, helped named the suit, called Elaine's fake mustache, and a lot more. It was great when my input had meaning. This, asking us for input but then not listening is very disturbing. If we have no ability to change things, tell us. Don't put "Your Orders" and then not do anything.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:00 No.9108501
    >The problem is that were directly interfacing with the show now. It's also hard to NOT have to do these events as they directly concern Garma. So I sort of have to approach the episodes, which are linear in nature, in some kind of non-linear fashion with elements of choice.

    The thing is Apologised, Garma is now a different person to who he was in show and at the start of the quest. There's no reason to assume he would make the same decisions as he did in canon.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:00 No.9108503

    Typing that made me realize how much you can miss when your typing responses. You have my sympathies, Apologized.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:00 No.9108507
    I do like the small posts, but if the vast majority of what you're doing is just a transcript of the episode... what's the point? Don't screw with us and make us think we have a say, if this is really the equivalent of a cutscene.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:01 No.9108511
    >The problem is that were directly interfacing with the show now.

    I'm not sure that's the wisest thing to do when the point of the Quest is to change the way the war depicted in the show tuned out, especially if we're going to be so intertwined with it.

    But it's your quest, do what thou wilt - as long as we get a decent 'why' in the process.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:01 No.9108513
    Then do what you've done before. No one will get on you for doing cut scenes, I didn't mind the gundam fights because they never asked
    so i knew they were going to happen a certain way without input

    Don't put "Your orders?" unless you want our orders. and if that doesn't line up with the show, oh well you gave us a choice and we chose.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:01 No.9108518
    This is a good idea Apologised. How about we forget this thread happened and we pick it back up when you're feeling better?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:02 No.9108530

    What's funny is that in the show Char was only marginally faster on the uptake than Garma. Maybe it's not reflective of the characters, but just bad writing on the show's part?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:02 No.9108532
    Apologized, what the fucked happened to you? You're not even running a fucking quest anymore.

    Fuck you.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:03 No.9108533
    >We shouldn't show up and do PoV section during canon moments

    This seems like the best solution. Getting some radio transmissions that there's a temporary ceasefire on and we need to tail a transport from the ground is one thing, and can lead to some cool stuff.

    But ostensibly putting is in control of the guy who makes the decisions and then going "But thou must!" is rather disconcerting compared to the rest of the quest.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)16:08 No.9108624

    Yeah. I guess.

    I suppose I'll try again when I'm feeling better.

    I wish I knew what was wrong with me though. I had the exact same thing over Christmas as well.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)16:09 No.9108626
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    And besides, I really wanted to get those civilians out...

    Frau Bow x David Lister.

    Ohhhh yeaaah....

    But seriously, thanks for stopping and listening to us Apologised.

    Hopefully this will improve the overall quest...
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)16:10 No.9108645

    Yeah apologized. Take a break.

    Consider doing this once a week instead of three times.

    At least until you're feeling better.

    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:10 No.9108663
    Do short post, don't respond untill there seems to be a consensus and even if it screws with the time line, fuck it. Let's have fun again.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:12 No.9108681
    So how 'bout you delete this thread and we pretend this never happened?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:12 No.9108685
    Apologized, you got the process half right.

    You did make shorter posts, and that's good.

    But you also have to give a little bit of time for some input to be made by us players.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:12 No.9108696

    Retcon thread?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:13 No.9108711
    It was all "Big" John's dream while he was supposed to be tracking the Trojan Horse.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:15 No.9108736
    he did lose a few hours...

    I say we keep the thread though, a good reminder of what can happen, also untill the end here, it was a fucking sweet thread
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:15 No.9108751
    The big difference here is that Garma probably figured "what the heck, if they try to pull something it means fewer guys defending White Base when we attack".

    The big divergence is that he's not going to be taken by surprise when the Gundam shows up. And he'll immediately pull his guys out.

    Also, he's going to be launching an infantry assault while the Gundam isn't there to step on it. At the very least, White Base is going to take heavy damage.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:17 No.9108766
    I think the basic idea is to retcon everything after we stopping being Lister, let Apologized work that out in a different way. Feel better man!
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)16:18 No.9108792

    This definitly.

    Lets get back to form. :D
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)16:18 No.9108801

    To be honest, given how little of this actually concerns Lister and the gang, then we probably can just ignore it.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:19 No.9108821
    "Hey! Hey, wake up! The refugees are leaving."

    He roused from his slumber and looked at the monitor in front of him. It showed the Trojan Horse, several miles away, on the ground, immobile. Now would be the perfect time to strike it with every long range missile they had, but Garma's temporary ceasefire would see none of that. A set of hangar doors opened and three larges trucks slowly emerged, pulled several hundred feet from the ship, and stopped.

    From across the way, a small cadre of Zeonic trucks and ambulances made their way to meet them. The trucks met, and those from Zeon encircled the Federation vehicles, before leading them away.

    Several minutes passed before the visage of Captain Garma came on screen. His message was to the commander of the Trojan Horse, but it was relayed to all Zeonic forces in the area as well.

    "We've complied with the terms of the ceasefire. These people will be given the best care possible. We are not monsters, sir." He sipped his tea. "And now, seeing as that business is done, the ceasefire is officially over. Fire at will, boys."

    The pilots of the Big John smiled. "About damn time."
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)16:20 No.9108824


    So... new thread?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:21 No.9108839
    >Ignore latter half of thread.

    Feels good man.

    So do you think you'll be fine for tommorow or will the next thread be in a week or two?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:24 No.9108898
    Me like
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:33 No.9109064
    Thinking about it, Zeon could probably get the White Base arrested for war crimes once the war's over due to their Gundam in the transport shenanigans.

    Presumably they said there would be a transport carrying civilians, wounded, whatever and the soldiers in the cockpit would be the only ones. Therefore you would have to be an idiot to not have a condition in the ceasefire that any other soldiers than the pilots in the transport are officially surrendering. Therefore the fact that Amuro went in the transport with explicit intention to use the Gundam from it to attack the Zeon forces is a soldier faking surrender which is a serious war crime under the Hague Convention (which was signed before world war one).

    Mental note: assuming we go with Garma lets the transport leave the ship option when this continues which isn't too bad an option, as soon as Dave finds out the details of what happens he has evidence gathered of what happened so that when the war ends, Amuro, Bright and whoever else knowingly took part can be tried for their crimes.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)16:36 No.9109133

    Yes. This. It would be hilarious.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)16:39 No.9109183
    >as soon as Dave finds out the details of what happens he has evidence gathered of what happened so that when the war ends, Amuro, Bright and whoever else knowingly took part can be tried for their crimes.

    The problem with someone from Zeon accusing someone of warcrimes is a lot like the pot calling the kettle black.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:41 No.9109217
    ...Oh yeah... that whole colony drop thing...
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:41 No.9109228
    Found a relevant article in the Geneva convention:

    "Article 37.-Prohibition of perfidy

    1. It is prohibited to kill, injure or capture an adversary by resort to perfidy. Acts inviting the confidence of an adversary to lead him to believe that he is entitled to, or is obliged to accord, protection under the rules of international law applicable in armed conflict, with intent to betray that confidence, shall constitute perfidy. The following acts are examples of perfidy:
    (a) The feigning of an intent to negotiate under a flag of truce or of a surrender;
    (b) The feigning of an incapacitation by wounds or sickness;
    (c) The feigning of civilian, non-combatant status; and
    (d) The feigning of protected status by the use of signs, emblems or uniforms of the United Nations or of neutral or other States not Parties to the conflict.
    2. Ruses of war are not prohibited. Such ruses are acts which are intended to mislead an adversary or to induce him to act recklessly but which infringe no rule of international law applicable in armed conflict and which are not perfidious because they do not invite the confidence of an adversary with respect to protection under that law. The following are examples of such ruses: the use of camouflage, decoys, mock operations and misinformation."

    The important part being "(c) The feigning of civilian, non-combatant status;"
    Seems pretty clear cut to me.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:44 No.9109273
    Fortunately, whatever actions have been committed by other people is utterly irrelevent in a court. Saying "But he killed three people" is not going to get you off for murdering a murderer. Especially if it comes from David Lister, known to be an honorable knight of zeon I reckon we could make this stick.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)16:46 No.9109322

    Wonder if the Antarctic Treaty built up on that...
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)16:51 No.9109390

    And the whole nerve gas thing, and then later on the whole colony laser thing.


    You see IIRC, the point of having the Gundam inside the the ship was to deploy it in the lake, and then have it flank the attacking Zeon forces AFTER the ceasefire was ended.

    Now, under those rules, merely using the ceasefire arrangment to move your forces about to a more advantageous position ISN'T a breach of the geneva convention.
    Because if it was then YOU wouldn't be able to move your forces to encircle the White Base.

    At least, that's how I think I can see it argued.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:51 No.9109406

    This should be our new Quest in Zeonquest. Bring Amuro to justice for his despicable actions. Oh not to mention how the Gundam killed a ship full of colony refugees while under a cease fire agreement. That in itself would be a big rallying point against Federation forces.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:52 No.9109412

    Uh. Was the Colony Drop before or after the Antarctica Treaty? I don't know anything about the main plot of this aside from Zeon losing in the end, which I'd hope wouldn't happen in ZeonQuest.

    But anyways, if it was before the Antarctica treaty, then it doesn't count, right? So then they can't pull anything on us about war crimes because we haven't committed any, right?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:52 No.9109418
    >Especially if it comes from David Lister, known to be an honorable knight of zeon I reckon we could make this stick.

    Weren't we involved in Operation British though?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)16:56 No.9109479

    No, that was Strauss.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:57 No.9109496
    >Now, under those rules, merely using the ceasefire arrangment to move your forces about to a more advantageous position ISN'T a breach of the geneva convention.
    >Because if it was then YOU wouldn't be able to move your forces to encircle the White Base.
    >At least, that's how I think I can see it argued.

    And that's wrong I'm afraid. The terms of the ceasefire would be something like "Soldiers fly transport containing civilians then return to white base. Zeon does not attack white base and white base does not attack zeon until this is complete."

    This means that anyone who choose to remain in the transport is identifying as a non combatant civilian. Amuro does this and then engages in combat with zeon forces which is a clear breach of the article. Our actions of moving our men around is not against the ceasefire and the perfidy article of the geneva convention thus has nothing to do with them.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)16:59 No.9109521

    Well, I suppose *someone's* gonna cook out something about Minovsky particle killing babies then and smearing our good name with it.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)17:01 No.9109561

    Perhaps the Geneva conventions are no longer in place? It would explain the mass gassing of colonists that took place early on in the war.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)17:02 No.9109578
    Did both sides gas people?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)17:05 No.9109628

    I beleive so.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)17:05 No.9109629

    Just because they are ignored doesn't mean they aren't in place. History is as ever written by the victors, whoever wins is going to be able to shout warcrimes at the losers with their own actions swept aside and have them considered 'classified' until the people involved are old or dead.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)17:06 No.9109643
    Except I'm fairly sure that at some point in UC the geneva convention gets name dropped. Can't for the life of me remember when but I'm all but certain it does.

    You can't talk me out of pushing for us to try this apologised.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)17:09 No.9109703

    Thanks for taking a break.

    Making this quest part of your weekend was kind of ya but make sure you're alive and well enough to be useful to both yourself and us Nachtmaren enthusiasts.

    Yeah ret-conning everything after we switched to Garma would be awesome if possible and since David wasn't involved it wouldn't seem weird ass or arbitrary in the long run.

    Once you've got the stamina we'll be eagerly there ready to kick Feddie Balls.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)17:09 No.9109717

    I guess. But It's still all kinds of murky. Also, I don't think you'll have chance in hell with this if the Feds win in the end, given how corrupt they are.

    At best they'll use it as an excuse to put Amuro in citzens arrest in Augusta, and from there the Titans use his test data to make the artificial newtypes.

    It would also explain why Brights still only a captain.
    >> An0nymous !gkWeiOwuW2 04/10/10(Sat)17:10 No.9109739

    I had thought it was his habit of hitting people... <_<
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)17:30 No.9110177
    But his hitting people made them better people....mostly.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)17:32 No.9110214
    they are lucky he did shoot them, he would have been well with his too
    >> Abaddon 04/10/10(Sat)17:33 No.9110226

    bright slap.

    guaranteed to make you a better person or your money back.

    Warning doesn't work on Kai
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 04/10/10(Sat)17:55 No.9110623

    It KINDA works on him. He get's slapped and then next episode he's volunterring to pilot the Guncannon.

    It just doesn't work at full capacity is all.
    >> Arty 04/10/10(Sat)18:22 No.9111054
    Ok, what's going on? Are we autosaged yet?
    >> MS-06FUCKYEAH !!rJGvHLVN3on 04/10/10(Sat)18:44 No.9111390
    Page 14 and falling. What the FUCK is going on? I sleep in, and there's some kind of huge debate regarding how the Quest is done? And it derails the story in progress? And it wasn't addressed during the discussion thread last Sunday? That strikes me as ODD.

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