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    21 KB Nazis through the portal Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)14:29 No.8976038  
    Previous thread autosaging, but archived. I started fluffing it out. I'll repost and continue.

    Assume the original nazi invasion forces were like 10,000 man strong. 20 stukas and 100 panzers.
    Warehouses full of bullets transported through.
    Nazi scientists/sorcerers, officers and a ring of occult high ranking gestapo officers overlooking everything according to the führers wishes.
    There will be people with brains, not just soldiers.

    I was thinking they could have made a fantasy city their base, think something like Minas Tirith being fortified with steel plating, royal statues smashed and replaced with Hitler statues and eagle adorned swastika banners.
    With factories being built in the outskirts.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)14:30 No.8976059
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    >>10,000 man strong. 20 stukas and 100 panzers
    So, basically an armor division plus another brigade of infantry? (1 German Pz Div was supposed to have 200 tanks, but for most of the war they averaged a little over 100) If so, that tells me a few things- like the 7000 of those troops who are in the PzDiv are probably motorized, and have other toys like armored recon cars, halftracks, self-propelled artillery and assault guns.
    >>Warehouses full of bullets transported through.
    >>Nazi scientists/sorcerers, officers and a ring of occult high ranking gestapo officers overlooking everything according to the führers wishes.
    >>There will be people with brains, not just soldiers.
    >>Smashed royal statues, Nazi banners
    Ohhhhh shit. If they're doing that then they probably want the soldiers to be politically reliable. The PzDiv you sent is SS- let's say it's Das Reich, because I like how their standard looks (pic related). You just sent the cowboys from hell to a fantasy world. The infantry brigade is probably also SS- make them bergsjaeger because they'll want a group that can go light on supplies.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)14:33 No.8976096
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    Now more

    I'd guess due to the supply situation they'd send less motorized stuff than usual. This accounts for why an SS PzDiv is at 100 tanks (normally, SS PzDivs 1-3 + 5 were stuffed to the gills with the latest equipment- they had pull). I'd envision it like the division was back in Germany reconstructing itself after the latest Eastern Front bloodbath. Then the portal gets opened. They're on hand, available and politically reliable, so forget restocking them with any more equipment because that will just cause logistical problems. The bergesjaeger brigade goes through first with a shitload of Brandenburgers (german special forces- specializing in infiltration).

    The bergesjaegers set up a perimeter around the portal while the Brandenburgers get busy learning the local language. These guys have a particularly hard job- they're tasked with looking for 'Good Aryans' to ally with, but they'd rather be more diplomatic and flexible.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)14:36 No.8976132
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    Their nominal bosses are the SS Ahnenerbe sorcerers who opened the portal. They're fanatics and often aren't grounded in reality, but their skills and understanding of how things work are invaluable. They can't be done without, and they have to be accomadated.

    The real boss is Walter Kruger, the commander of the 2nd SS Panzer Division Das Reich.
    (I know nothing abou this guy, so I guess we should feel free to paint whatever personality we want on him)
    Let's say he's... ideologically committed but understands the reality on the ground. He placates the Ahnenerbe and lets them think they're in charge, so that he can avoid uniting the entire world against the Nazi incursion. After he comes through the portal, the Brandenburgers' job becomes much easier.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)14:49 No.8976379
    Now I gotta start making assumptions. Which semigeneric fantasy world did they invade? Feel free to make suggestions.

    The initial trip through the portal is just the sorcerers and their guards. It opens onto the side of a mountain with howling winds. It's winter in Germany, but summer here. Luckily they haven't marched themselves right off a cliff. They experiment with closing and reopening the portal (not fun for the soldiers left behind). They set up a circle of standing stones in the forested valley below and are able to shift the portal there.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)15:12 No.8976737
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    A sheepherder stumbled on to the operation before the portal was shifted. While odd-looking (short, slightly pointed ears, brown skin and hair) the sorcerers decide he's sufficiently Aryan to avoid immediately blood-sacrificing him. They don't know what language he's speaking. At bayonet point, he leads them to his cottage. His whole family is immediately taken back through the portal.

    He speaks a completely unknown language, but at least the consanants are easy to pronounce. Some of the Ahnenerbe are good with languages, but they need an expert now. They were planning on announcing their great success only after they managed to bring back some kind of magical weapon, so they put that off. They have a company of fanatical, if less than well trained troops at their disposal- all volunteers who showed interest in the occult. As soon as the portal is moved they send them through.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)15:58 No.8977500
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    Under the command of insane Nazi sorcers, armed with rifles, less than 50 words of the local language and undying fanaticism, the 200 Ahnenerbe soldiers set off to conquer the world.

    Following a 'divine revelation from Baldar', the sorcerer's immediate goal is to 'exalt the red king to the west'. Whatever the hell that means. So they march up the valley west, leaving a platoon at the portal. It's obvious they're marching directly into a howling wilderness, but hey, they're blindly fanatical. They ignore the scorch marks on the bare rock of the mountains.

    An hour after the company departs, the platoon waiting at the portal sees the gargantuan black dragon swoop down. They hear its shouts of anger several minutes later, along with the snapping of rifle fire. The unholy black flames that spew up from the forest frighten even the sorcerers with them, and they flee back through the portal and race to close it.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)16:03 No.8977580
    Someone just read the Atrocity Archives.

    Ser gut.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)16:04 No.8977587
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)16:05 No.8977604
    I wonder when they'll finally bring out the 1.13 patch...
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)16:14 No.8977759
    I haven't read the Atrocity Archives, but I am a big fan of Charlie Stross. Thanks.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)16:37 No.8978160
    It dawns on the Abnenerbe that they need more resources. They send word of their achievement up the chain of command, and more quietly mention the dragon. Demonstration of the portal is a smashing success, barely marred by the screams of the sacrificial victims. The Furher is very pleased. "I've never had faith in theosophy like you, Heinrich, but now you've found something real.
    "Thank you, mein Furher."
    "If this works there must be other magic you can find. We must reverse the Bolshevist advance. If the untermenscen conquer Germany, Europe will see a thousand years of darkness and civilization itself will die."
    "The SS Abnenerbe work as we speak, mein Furher, all possibilities are being explored."
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)16:40 No.8978218

    "Good, good, you realize the gravity of the situation." The Furher rested his hand on one of the standing stones, gazing at the blood-painted runes. "Your men are sure our side of the gate cannot be moved."
    "This is true, mein Furher. Doing anything through force of the mind is much more difficult on Earth than here." Himmler gestured around to the trees. "On our side is an ancient Aryan ritual site of unimaginable importance. When the einsatsgruppen stumbled on it, they found many more bodies here than just the ones they were planning to bury. And do remember, we are standing in ancient Lithuania- they retained their Aryan faith in the true gods longer than anyone else in Europe."
    "I accept your magic. Do not speak to me of faith."
    "My apologies, mein Furher. In short, no, we can't move it. And the dangers we face mean exploitation would be difficult."
    "Ah dragons! And magic can be done easily. Forty kilometers from the front line, damm. There must be experts in this world. Men, or things that could win the struggle for us with unheard-of power. So things are are a little dangerous, well! The key to any victory resides in struggling vigorously with the opportunities presented. You shall have all the resources you need." Hitler turned and glared at Himmler with burning eyes. "Find something. Quickly. I can give you anything but time."
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)16:41 No.8978230
    Is anybody reading this? I'd really like suggestions.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)16:57 No.8978520
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    The dragon was the problem on everyone's minds. Frontline forces were stretched very thin as it was, not much to spare there. 2nd SS Division Das Reich (Panzer) was reforming in Prussia, they could be be up with most of their equipment in two weeks. A brigade from 6th SS. Division Nord (mountain) could have a brigade assembled at the portal in four days time. The very day of Hitler's visit, group of 20 Stug. III (assult guns- basically turretless tanks) was requisitoned along with their crews.
    "A dragon? You SS fuckers have lost it."
    "Yes, ah, and you'll be going through that over there. See it now?"
    "Is that even real? Gott mit uns..."
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)17:31 No.8979097
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    In the end, the STUGs only served to flush out the dragon. Histindak, ancient and sovereign, bound by treaty to the Westmarch and the elves of the Tall Keets, fell to the 88mm guns stationed by the portal.
    It hurt (hurt!) so much. Even that upstart Dac Mul had never hurt him so greviously. What were those things? The low, growling beasts were ridden by men speaking the same language as those arrogant blood-mages before. He anticipated that the beasts would spit fire. But then those things, were they seige weapons? They were far off, he saw them out of the corner of his eye and dismissed them. So far off, and they still could find the mark AND pierce his hide.

    The low beasts were approaching, their squeals and rumbles mixed with the shouts of men. He was barely strong enough to thrash in pain as he turned over, the bones of his wings grating. Men in greens and browns hesitantly peered into the clearing his fall had created.

    "Do not kill me." He said in perfect German.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)18:07 No.8979711
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    One of the low beasts came into the clearing over a felled tree. He could see now that it was some kind of moving pile of metal. So strange. Incomprehensible. A golem, but it didn't walk. Those weren't even wheels.

    Stay focused. He had to be bleeding inside. He needed a healer. He might just find a way to live through this. The man jumped off the golem and circled around his body to approach his head.

    "You speak German?"

    "A simple spell," he whispered. To Hans, it seemed very loud for a whisper. "Would that I had taken their minds as well, to see that more would come? Ahh!" Hans clapped his hands to his ears and cringed as the dragon screeched in pain.

    "We're supposed to be looking for, for magical power. It seems insane to me, and here, admitting it to a dragon." Hans Huber gulped. "I think you're going to die. What can I do for you?"
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)18:36 No.8980222
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    Hm, I may need to steal this. Don't have anything to throw this at my players currently, but they have dealt with trans-dimensional Nazis before.
    Sounds awesome so far, keep up the good work.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)18:39 No.8980259
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    "What? Hmmm, haha." More men were gathered around now. This brave one had given them the courage. "Know my name, Histindak. I give that to you to keep." And for you, brave one. You seem like a real warrior. I'll give you something more.

    The dragon whispered something that cut his mind like glass. Hans dropped to his knees and stared as his eyes swam and hands trembled. The others were still staring at the dragon. Maybe it was just nerves. The dragon looked asleep.

    An Abnenerbe man got off a motorcycle and put on his glasses. He was young, and thin, and reedy looking in an SS field uniform. "It lives?"

    "I can hear it breathing." Hans replied, standing up. It spoke German to us, you should know." The Abnenerbe man was writing something. "What are our orders now?"

    "I don't know. We're to explore this place. If you find people bring them back. We need to learn the language and get more translators. The few we've got won't be enough." He spit on the upturned earth. "Secure the beast. We don't want it waking up and killing us all."
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)18:41 No.8980296
    Thanks! Encouragement helps.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)19:07 No.8980731

    The dragon died that night. Huber's STUG company stayed near the portal- armored cars and Brandenburgers were doing long-range scouting. It was smarter, the cars didn't suck away their petrol quite as fast. Besides maintaining their STUGs and patrolling on foot, they were also building an airstrip. Two days later, an SS Nord engineering battalion was marching in and the dragon's bones were going out.

    Meat was on the menu, and they ate it, though their suspiscions were confirmed. "We've tested it on prisoners and SS men on the other side already," the reedy Abnenerbe man told them. "You know how bad the supply situation is even on the other side. We can't afford to waste anything." Hans noted that though he stayed, the Abnenerbe man was eating canned peas, and took notes every once in awhile. The dragon tasted rich, like organ meat.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)19:22 No.8981003
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    This should present an interesting obstacle comrades, but one scientific socialism shall easily overcome. The historical dialectic propounded by Marx and Lenin and prefected by the Great Stalin teaches us to expect the fascists to throw up such antiquated novelties in its dying throws. Make no mistake comrades, we will win, and when in doubt, throw some T34s at it.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)19:31 No.8981166
    bump for magic nazis.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)19:48 No.8981513
    Igon, King of Josun, Duke of the Westmarches, Duke of the Seven Towns, Baron of Katalin, Erramun and Benat, and the High Priest of Kord, the breaker of chains, was hunting. He leaned on his boar spear, which stood a foot higher than he did, the crossbar at shoulder height. "So, have the riders scared up anything yet?"

    "No sire. Just birds and rabbits."

    "Bah." He lazily jumped up onto his horse. Igon was a lean, tough man in his early middle years. "I don't know about you, my good men, but I hate waiting around for nothing." A few boot-licking barons mounted up to go with him. Internally, he smirked. "I have a mind to inspect the repairs. Hyaa!" And he was off.

    The rennovation of the north wall of the Oihana fortress, five miles from the capital, were well under way. Hundreds of men toiled away in the muddy ground, hauling in foundation stones. "...and we'll be able to begin on the east wall before solstice."

    "Thank you Eider." Yes, Eider did have things well in hand. Soon, it would be time to invite back those northern scum, just to make sure they weren't thinking about invading again.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)19:50 No.8981552
    Basajuan Redhand had snuck up behind him. "Sire, I have a report and a request." Igon's entire party was startled. Basajuan was the head wizard at Oihana, which made him a man of high rank indeed.

    "Very well."

    "I believe there is trouble in the Keets."

    "Tall or Low."

    "The Tall Keets, by my reckoning. I bel.."

    "By Kord I hate elves. Well, what is it?"

    "Ahem. I found traces of blood magic a short time ago, but all further inspection has revealed nothing."

    "Then what's the problem?"

    "My sight reveals nothing at all. No elves, no men, no Histindak, no beasts, nothing but trees. There is a Concealment, and its centered in the Tall Keets."

    The king's eyes widened. "Just like those northern bastards. Well, you want men? You know we have to be careful there."

    "Yes, sire, I would like men. And I want to select some other wizards to come with me as well."

    "Let it be done. I can't let villany prosper, unless it's my own."
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)20:34 No.8982409
    any more?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)20:34 No.8982415
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    Georg had done some terrible things. Things that kept him up at night. They were all orders. Duty was sacrifice. Duty was terrible. Then duty had borne fruit. Hip deep in their murdered victims, the Abnanerbe had produced something tangible. The new place, this new world. The High Keet, or something like that, like the shepard had said. Maybe it was just the name of the mountains they were in.

    It seemed incredible to everyone, but to him, especially so. As soon as he was on the other side of the portal, he could feel things. See things. Things the others couldn't percieve. And when they performed their rituals in this world, rituals from the Ta'ge stones that they had always followed blindly, he began to understand how it worked. They didn't really need to flay a man at the third interstice of the ritual circle. That was a waste. The primary sacrifice didn't need to be a virgin. Their standard call was imperfect- he saw how the chants could be much more effective. And maybe, just maybe, sometimes terror is what they were really channeling instead of lives.

    There were other sources of power too. He could see it everywhere in this world. Maybe only their kind of magic could work at all back on Earth, but he would have to figure it out. For now, he innovated with these new men pressed under his command, and didn't tell anyone else what he was doing. Though he did keep good notes.

    (1/4 of the old sorcerers got flambe'd by the dragon and now the Abnanerbe has to train large numbers of new sorcerers. Georg was an under-assistant and now he's got rank.)
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)20:39 No.8982501
    I'm posting as I'm writing here. I'd love to have some help. (Gimme ideas!)
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)21:28 No.8983480
    Hans Huber awoke with a start. Rain patted down on the squad tent, drenching the sentery he could see outside. It was a dream again. He was sure it was the same dream he'd had every night since the dragon had died. He could never remember it, but it felt.... compelling.

    The next morning they were assigned a prisoner. They were one of the only non-SS groups in the portal task force, so they were the last to know he was coming. The man looked strange, and underfed. Brown-skinned, but somehow the tone was different from an Arab. Gray eyes, long brown hair, thin, long bones. Extremely sharp features. His ears were almost like a deer's, long and pointed. Well, not that extreme, but it bothered him.

    The man shuffled forward in his leg irons and dirty white prison uniform. He spoke in broken German. "I teach language. I learn yours. I do work"

    "Well, here he is boys, we thought we'd try him out on you. Actually, the Brandenburgers have the rest of them, don't know how you got in line before the SS, no offense."

    "None taken. This is an SS operation of course," said the Captain.

    The SS men left the prisoner and went back to their camp. The Captain broke the uncomfortable silence. "Let's have a demonstration. Tell us your name. Then tell us your words for numbers."

    "Name is Uthste. Numbers. One is..."

    Huber wasn't paying very close attention, but quickly realized he understood everything the prisoner was saying. Perfectly. He felt like he had to do something. Words were bubbling up. "Uthste, do you understand what I'm saying?" It certainly wasn't German. Everyone looked at him like he'd grown a second head.

    "I understand you. You speak like a Westmarcher." All hell broke loose.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)21:35 No.8983614
    I don't get it.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)21:42 No.8983757
    Do you remember earlier when the dragon cast a spell on Hans? Hans can now speak the local language. That freaks out his own unit, but the SS Ahnenerbe go absolutely apeshit. And back in the corner, Georg will sit taking notes...

    Eventually, they transfer him to the Brandenburgers (also not an SS unit, oops), because his native accent is just too damm useful to be left fallow. He doesn't like it, but he's now point man on information gathering and infiltration.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)22:13 No.8984433
    Here's how I see it playing out further on. A unit of Brandenburgers (now including Huber) are posing as foreign merchants in rural Westmarch. The Branenburgers, being Brandenburgers, are already picking up swordplay and archery, and reserve their guns for extreme situations. They're here to pick up information. Basic stuff, like how common magic is, what the nations are, who the key local power brokers are. The locals look kinda like south Italians, not endearing them to the SS Ahnenerbe. The Brandenburgers think it would be a better idea to contact and ally with the local king rather than just take over. But they're not in charge, the SS Ahnenerbe maniacs are.

    Right before an operation to take out King Igon begins, the SS 2nd PzDiv rolls through the gate and General Walter Kruger calls bullshit on the whole thing.

    At the same time, Basajuan Redhand ( I envision this guy as a tremendous badass), leads his reconnaissance-in-force right past the Brandenburgers (they'll pass on the road) through the woods and into the mountains, where wait the Germans. He OWNS the SS mages, though his assistants have some trouble with them. The knights escorting him are mostly slaughtered, and fall back to his personal protection. He's smashing his way through the Ahnenerbe mages when Georg stands in his way. Kid's got talent and manages to improvise some basic magical defenses. With STUGs and aircraft attacking Basajuan's party along with a battalion of infantry at the same time, Georg forces him to surrender. Georg does his best to make it look like he wasn't really responsible, but does teach what he's learned to his subordinates.

    So at this point 2nd SS PzDiv. Das Reich is through the gate with the tanks and Walter Kruger, the mountain troops have secured the local area, Basajuan Redhand is captive and the Brandenburgers are back from their scouting mission.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)22:46 No.8985301

    Operation: ally with locals, is now a go. Word has gotten out to the elves that something is wrong in the Tall Keets, they send out someone to make formal contact. The Germans (meaning Walter Kruger) aren't interested in allying with weak rural folk of questionably human heritage. But they don't declare war either. The Ahnenerabe would have just practiced blood-sacrifice with them, they have enough translators already.

    A secret, formal embassy (including our boy Hans Huber) heads to the capital of Josun. They admit quite a bit. Yes, we're from out of town. Yes, we did kill Histindak the ancient black dragon, but we didn't know what we were dealing with. Yes, we did fight and capture Basajuan, but he attacked first. We have a powerful military and we woundn't mind lending it to you in exchange for alliance and any magical knowledge you got. King Igon agrees. Histindak was a dick who sometimes ate tresspassers anyway.

    Basajuan is handed back and tells the King how much these people and their creepy blood mages creep him out. King Igon is too busy watching an SS Panzer Division smash his sworn enemies to care. Georg joins the mage-exchange program and is possibly the SS sorcerer that creeps Basajuan out the least.

    King Igon welcomes Das Reich back to the capital as an army of heroes. By now, Basajuan has figured out the Nazi tendancy toward genocide and enslavement. He watches the SS worm their way into power everywhere in the capital. He starts plots rebellion with the lower nobility.

    Things gradually get worse in the Kingdom of Josun as the SS becomes more exploitative, though not too bad. The Germans are hard pressed on Earth and are desperate for any advantage. They start setting up factories, untouchable by Allied bombs. Magic back on Earth is laughably weak, dooming that effort. Das Reich is on the verge of being recalled when June 22, 1944 rolls around.
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    If its DnD, one can only wonder what will happen when they run into the Drow.
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    Search your heart, you know it to be true...
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)22:54 No.8985469
    modern elves are based on asian culture
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)22:55 No.8985489

    Impossible. The stereotypical dorf is scottish. I don't have a problem with the Elf, though.
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    I have no problem with Nazi elves. It would be interesting to see if the Nazis killed them outright or tried to enslave them, though.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:03 No.8985692
    On June 22, 1944, important events are set in motion.

    Operation Bagration kicks off. This Soviet offensive resulted in the recapture of Belorussia and the destruction of 38 or so German divisions. The site of the gate is overrun on the third day, June 25. High command wanted them back through to defend the Fatherland, but the trans-gate forces decided they'd rather stay in fantasyland and survive. The gate is gone and not coming back.

    The other event is Basajuan's rebellion. He figures with the gate gone the Nazis will run out of supplies and won't get reinforcement. With the Josunian (and specifically, Basajuan and his large array of allies) advantage in magic, Nazi technology can be overcome and they will be subdued. He hasn't been paying close enough attention to Georg.

    Georg has been making friends among the local mages considered too unethical for Basajuan. Basajuan was watching that, and thinks he can handle it. Basajuan hasn't been watching how well Georg has been training his own unit of SS Ahnenerbe mages, or that General Walter Kruger has been recruiting foreigners (damm Northerners!) into a unit supplied with WW1-era rifles.

    The revolt is bloody, and ends up with the capital described by the OP of the other thread. The capital city cowers in fear. The king is alive, but might as well be a prisoner. Royal statues lay smashed from the fighting, and the city is draped in red Nazi banners.

    There are a few rays of hope. Many of the more dogmatic and stupid-evil Ahnenerbe are dead. General Walter Kruger, a pragmatist butcher, doesn't even have to pretend to defer to the Ahnenerbe any more- he's effectively Shogun. Hell, he'd even like to give the kingdom back to Igon in exchange for a big autonomous area. But feelings have been hurt and evil has come to fantasyland.
    >> Cegorach 04/04/10(Sun)23:04 No.8985707
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:04 No.8985708
    Just so you guys know, the Nazis didn't totally hate every other race. There were black SS troops in some areas. I think there may have been a few Jewish SS who weren't thrown in camps. In fact some of the most cruel SS soldiers were not even German.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:05 No.8985725
    Let loose upon modern technology, even without magic the gnomes should be able to improve it. And the presence of magic IN the fantasy world should allow mass production to be all more easy.

    In the short term though, magically duplicating stukas and panzers would be less impressive than teaching the local wizards to turn water into refined gasoline. That alone could change the course of the war.

    And if things still go pear-shaped in Europe, the fantasy world will make an excellent redoubt for the fascist pigdogs.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:06 No.8985755

    They meet some drow. Some of the more open-minded mages would like to talk to them, if they could take any drow prisoners alive. It's mostly open conflict, both sides being aggressive and opportunistic.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:06 No.8985756
    What if all of Germany starts to migrate into this fantasy world and just piles tons of defense at the entrance.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:09 No.8985842
    I think the magic would have to be kept secret from the public because the majority of the German troops and civilians were Christian. Hell even the SS all had "God is with us" on their belts.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:11 No.8985901
    The Nazis have only met a few isolated Dwarfs. The SS Ahenerbe hierarchy think that Der Ring des Nibelungen is actual history, and hate the shit out of them as pseudo-Jews. The rest of the SS loves them because they sell interesting things.

    As far as elves, they've only really made contact with Brown skinned woodsy forest elves. They've avoided enslaving them because they have more pressing issues.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:15 No.8985986
    >>Just so you guys know, the Nazis didn't totally hate every other race. There were black SS troops in some areas. I think there may have been a few Jewish SS who weren't thrown in camps. In fact some of the most cruel SS soldiers were not even German.

    Yes, very true. I had to explain to my wife once why French POW's were being treated well by the Nazis in a movie. I explained to her that the French weren't on the to-be-killed list.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:17 No.8986027
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    This looks pretty interesting so far.

    Why did people pick the Nazis instead of a different faction? I rather like the idea of Jack Churchill leading the way into fantasy land, claymore and longbow in hand. Pic related.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:18 No.8986054
    >> Gnomes will pimp out Nazi tech

    I'm the OP in this thread and I'm not sure this world should have Gnomes. Mages ought to be able to make gasoline manufacture (and other manufacturing) a whole bunch easier, but remember that in most fantasy settings not everyone can be a mage. They are a limited resource, like I'm implying in this setting.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:20 No.8986102
    Because that's what the OP of the previous thread started with. And because I've been playing way too many WWII wargames, I decided to run with it and fluff it out.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:22 No.8986133
    well please continue then you're doing an awesome job.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:23 No.8986163
    >>What if all of Germany starts to migrate into this fantasy world and just piles tons of defense at the entrance.
    Some Germans in on the secret get just that idea. Quite a few troops from near the gate pile through before it's blown sky-high.

    In real life, the Nazis thought they could win the war, or at least get a stalemate, right up until the end. They don't understand, in general, that it's a good time to run and hide.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:25 No.8986196
    I could see them having SS groups made of different loyal races they come in contact with.

    >Rigg's book documented 1,671 soldiers of Jewish descent who served in the Wehrmacht and/or the SS, or the Waffen-SS, and they vary from soldiers to admirals and even a field marshal.

    Yup we can have Nazi SS Dwarves and Elves ect.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:27 No.8986233
    For magic in our world, would there perhaps have been a way of making it easier? Like making giant totems that could focus magical energy?

    Because I'm getting the image of a few Nazi mages CRUSHING THE BOLSHEVIKS WITH THEIR MINDS, and it is awesome.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:27 No.8986238
    Guys... this really did happen. Hitler faked his death and is still alive in this fantasy land thanks to magic. He is building up an army to strike back one day.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:28 No.8986268
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    There's a second portal... ON THE MOON.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:30 No.8986327
    Later in the war the nazis had quite a few foreign SS divisons. Even though the nazis exalted the aryan man, they did work with races.

    I don't think in this setting the nazis would be super genocidal, they would just believe in their superiority, almost like how in many settings elves believe they are superior to other races.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:30 No.8986331
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    Cmon OP, give us more Nazis in fantasyland. I like the idea.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:33 No.8986382
    >>I think the magic would have to be kept secret from the public because the majority of the German troops and civilians were Christian. Hell even the SS all had "God is with us" on their belts.

    The magic, and the very fact of the gate's existence, is kept VERY secret. Only about 30,000 people who survive the war know about the gate. All documentation seized by the western Allies is thought of as an elaborate forgery. The gate site itself is thoroughly destroyed with explosives. It can't be reactivated, even when the Soviets repeat the rituals with hundreds of condemned political prisoners.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:35 No.8986442
    >> Write more OP. Pretty please.

    I've been writing this stuff for over ten fracking hours. I gotta take a break sometime. I'd like to see ideas from other people to stimulate me.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:38 No.8986507
    Would it be possible to reconnect to the real world from the fantasy side?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:41 No.8986567
    had you thought..
    every day in every way.....
    Hans was less and less.
    It started with the dreams and then the new abilities.
    It seemed that languages came easily to him now and although watched closely for a while it was soon decideded that whatever the dragon had done had been a good thing.
    It had been.
    - for the Dragon.
    The mind lay like a serpent around the tree of tree of mind. Coiled around the brain-stem it fed on the mind and learned of the new outlanders and grew.
    As each day passed there was less and less of Hans and more of the Worm. Histindak felt the confines of his new prison - but prison was better than death.
    In time he could, with power re-egg and emerge again.
    In a way these fools had done him a great service, as old and powerful as his body had been he could now emerge fresh from the shell full of the knowlege he had spent so long to gain.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:41 No.8986583
    A Treatise on Blood Magic, by Magister Harlsz.

    As we quickly discovered from the ruins in the Fatherland, blessed be its name, the magic practiced by our Aryan ancestors calls for sacrifice. This was most immediately read as blood sacrifice, and the success of using condemned Jews, gypsies, and other unwanted peoples was seen as proof of this. However, through my research with the prisoners we've captured from the natives, I believe that blood is not really the essence required for our rituals.

    I was performing a standard ritual to transmute water to oil, using blood as the catalyst. However, as I raised the ceremonial Luger to the prisoner's forehead, I felt a small, brief, but noticeable surge of magical energy. Intrigued, I put the barrel of the gun into the prisoner's mouth and pulled back the hammer. As I expected, I felt another surge of energy. I finished the ritual as we have previously done and ordered interrogation equipment to be sent along with the next batch of prisoners.

    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:42 No.8986598
    Is that from OP? Reads really crappy.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:42 No.8986614
    >> Nazis here won't go super-genocide.

    I'd agree, generally. However, at the start, they're led by completely wacko SS Ahnenerbe occultists. These people ARE just itching to go super-genocide. They're generally mentally damaged individuals.

    Even later on though, they have an unhealthy interest in authoritarianism and slavery. Any market-dominant minorities will have to tread lightly or the Nazis might recognize that "hey, these people act like Jews". You know where that ends up.

    Also, downtrodden outsiders sitting on desirable land, if the stranded SS want it, they will cause them unending suffering. (Think Nazi plans for Africa).
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:47 No.8986715
    I restrained the prisoners to the walls, and began torturing them with the devices that were, to them, alien and frightening. Electric shockers, pain-enhancing chemicals, the most brilliant of modern devices. The prisoner I employed them on was situated in the center of the room and was well lit. The prisoners on the wall were told that they were being used to test new equipment, and that each prisoner's torment would be worse than the last.

    When each new prisoner was brought to the chair, I and the other Magisters present for the experiment clearly felt an increase in ambient magical energy of the type we used. After disposing of the prisoners, we conversed and came to the conclusion that, rather than simple blood, the thing that our magic was channeling was the sheer terror of death and pain.

    This was revolutionary, and using this knowledge we employed emotion-enhancing chemicals and new torture devices to extract as much fear and agony from our prisoners as possible. The boost in our magical ability was significant, and palpable. Around the prisoners, we could cast and perform rituals with pretentious ease.

    It is with this knowledge that I recommend placing several "torture batteries" around the base and in places of magical research to amplify the Magister's powers and allow for quicker, more efficient use of our talents to further our expansion into this world.

    Magister Harlsz, 2nd Circle.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:47 No.8986719
    How about a rogue division? The SS Ahenerbe made a lot of enemies in the earlier days, and I can see a handful of war-weary eastern front veterans getting sick of some sadistic pencil-neck telling them what to do, and loading up a half-track with a big pile of fuel, enough ammo to last them for a month or so, and heading off to anywhere but there, possibly after getting into a fight and killing one of the bastards.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:50 No.8986768
    Nazi had no plans for afrika...they left that to mussiolini. only reason that they went into afrika was cause mussolini kept getting his ass kicked there
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:51 No.8986796

    No, I didn't write that. And I haven't read it yet. Maybe it'll have something interesting.
    Hmm, a bit stream-of-consciousness style, but interesting. I was thinking that the spell did a bit more for Hans then just languages. Maybe give him a little extra courage or other knowledge. But I didn't want to take it too far because then Hans would feel like a mary sue instead of the victim of a happy accident.

    I wasn't thinking Histindak was coming back. The big H was a warrior to the core. He was defeated- this was a way of honoring his enemy. Sneaky shit like the spell described there is more like something that fucker Dac Mull would pull. In fact, that gives me an idea or two. Dac Mull is a dragon, a powerful mage and an all-around sneaky fucker. He's probably been in the middle of this whole thing for months before the rebellion, shapechanged as a human and avoiding any mages powerful enough to see through his guise.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:53 No.8986836
    Alright then, just think Nazi plans for Russia.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:55 No.8986894
    Whoever wrote that, thanks. I think they would write it in a more formal, bureaucratic fashion though.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:56 No.8986905
    >torture batteries

    This is both something the Nazis would probably do and on a Silent Hill level of horrifying.

    Imagine a troop of adventurers busting into one of these things: In the center of the room under an unshaded bulb, is a poor shell of a man whimpering and shaking against iron bands, IV bags hanging around him as gears on the walls keep several torture devices working on him nonstop. Every sound the adventurers make send the man into conniptions, as he fears his tormentors have returned to increase the dosage.

    The magical energy in the air is smothering, and any good-aligned mages feel like they're about to vomit.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:57 No.8986930
    Hell yeah. That's just what they would do. Not nice, not ethical, but thats exactly what the ice-hearted bastards would have done.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:58 No.8986950
    I'm not very good at formal writing, sorry. Also I just pulled this out of my ass.

    I love the idea of the Nazis dragging around mobile torture batteries into battle, like some kind of twisted war mount. It's very Dark Eldar-ish.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:03 No.8987054
    >>How about a rogue division? The SS Ahenerbe made a lot of enemies in the earlier days, and I can see a handful of war-weary eastern front veterans getting sick of some sadistic pencil-neck telling them what to do, and loading up a half-track with a big pile of fuel, enough ammo to last them for a month or so, and heading off to anywhere but there, possibly after getting into a fight and killing one of the bastards.

    Except the war-weary ostfront veterans are mostly SS. You've got Brandenburgers (whose day-to-day operations mean pretty much going rouge already), Huber's Stug company, and probably less than 500 other military men who were requisitioned for the project. All the other military trans-gate is SS.

    As for non-military, you've got skilled factory workers, factory managers, engineers, occultists, self-proclaimed psychics, architects and bureaucrats. Quite a few of those will be SS as well.

    Besides which, the SS Ahnenerbe, after Das Riech gets through the gate, aren't in charge, and it's kind of obvious to everyone but them.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:08 No.8987152
    Hey, OP here. I'd like to archive this. Will you guys help me?

    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:09 No.8987193
    Sorry about sounding critical. I was just thinking aloud about how to improve it. It's good.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:19 No.8987376
    use sup/tg/
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:19 No.8987384
    Like most war situations, idealogy may give away to practicality.

    These are mostly rank and file soldiers (granted, THE signature division of the German army) in a foreign environ. They are stranded, and alone.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:29 No.8987540
    When I've tried to archive stuff before it's gotten deleted. I guess I'll try now.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:36 No.8987663
    I archived it for you.

    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:37 No.8987682
    If they felt that they were going to be cut off, and would have to be a German colony in a strange land, maybe they'd need to "import" some good German women of appropriate breeding stock. It would not do to have nothing but half-breeds in their new world, after all.

    I imagine the experience of the imported women would not be pleasant, what with the bloody-rune transport. Still, I imagine the choice between that and the advancing Russians made the exile the better choice.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:39 No.8987719
    Thanks. And thanks for flattering me about the writing. :)

    Is there a way to change the first tag from Nazis to Nazi? I also wanted to try adding a 'horror' tag.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:39 No.8987740
    And since they're proper Aryan women they wouldn't be locked in breeding stocks either. They'd practically be superior-class citizens, being able to choose from the soldiers.

    Unless the mages "accidentally" turned them into whores.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:43 No.8987801
    I think it's permanently tagged, I'm afraid.

    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:43 No.8987809

    There was a debate going on about Schopenhauer, one of the few pieces of heavy armor alloted to the initial portal force. Hastily repaired and serviced after being summarily withdrawn from combat, Schopenhauer and her commander (one Hans Klink) had complained vigorously that they were needed on the front line and not "on some damn fool errand that doesn't involve killing communist garbage".

    The hasty repairs made to the Tiger (among the first produced) now began to show - aiming became difficult as the gun sight was improperly mountedd, the engine belched fuel, and the vehicle itself suffered from a damaged track. Further, the terrain of the immediate area was not good for the massive armored beast to drive around in - it was often muddy and un-paved.

    The quartermaster, seeing the same issues, demanded that Klink yield his vehicle and that it cannibalize for parts. He argued, quite logically a few points: tracks were rare, the 88 shells could be used elsewhere, and the massive beast ate its own weight in fuel to mainly sit around.

    In a less then professional manner, Klink broke the jaw of said quartermaster with a nearby helmet.

    Klink had lost much to the war - 1 son to American bombers, 1 wife to her grief, 3 drivers to Russian armor, and 1 of his eyeballs to a broken bottle. He was not about to lose his tank.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:44 No.8987822
    >> Could Nazi wizards reconnect with Earth later?

    I could see, practically, they might. I just don't see where that takes the story in interesting directions. Or at least in directions that stimulate my mind.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:47 No.8987871
    heh, lol. Tigers were magnificent AND inefficient.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)01:21 No.8988582
    >>Importing good German women would probably happen...

    Yes, I agree. But only people who can actually see that they're gonna lose the war will do this. I can see some SS people in the know sending their families, or getting friends labeled as 'potential psychics' and sent through.

    It won't be huge scale though. Let's peg the German refugee (as opposed to worker or soldier) population at 1500, 4/5 of which are adult women. Right before the gate blows some SS fanatics grab all the blond females they can find and jump through. Let's say 700 Belorussian women. This still leaves a big gender imbalance in the newcomer population- especially when we consider several thousand soldiers hopping through in the last days.

    The Germans solve this by searching their new world for suitable women. They then get them the old fashioned way- purchase at the slave block or payment of bride-price.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)01:25 No.8988642
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    >the old fashioned way- purchase at the slave block

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