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    219 KB Paranoia Problems Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:08 No.8681561  
    Hey, I got forced into playing a Paranoia game, but the problem is I hate Paranoia. The GM will run the game I want to play, but only if I play this first. He said he would let me choose some of my stuff, but mostly random.

    Basically, how do I make the most min maxed character who will break the game and any tips to break the game while we are playing it? (Like asking questions that make the GM curse as now he must work harder).

    I would try Commie, but then everyone would expect me to start shouting propaganda until I kill the party and then it looks like I am trying to ruin the game on purpose.

    Any help /tg/?
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:14 No.8681605
    Just roll with it, bro! Paranoia is mad fun!
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:17 No.8681638
    And what is it what you want to play after Paranoia?
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:18 No.8681647
    <Basically, how do I make the most min maxed character who will break the game and any tips to break the game while we are playing it? (Like asking questions that make the GM curse as now he must work harder).

    >I would try Commie, but then everyone would expect me to start shouting propaganda until I kill the party and then it looks like I am trying to ruin the game on purpose.

    If you've got a good (or even bad) GM, you won't be able to.

    Minmaxing in Paranoia mainly consists of lying through your teeth and confusing the DM with fast-thinking rather than mechanical bonuses - if you bring up the fact that you've read the rulebook it's grounds for execution. The GM can and should change the rules arbitrarily as he sees fit.

    >until I kill the party and then it looks like I am trying to ruin the game on purpose.
    If you're NOT trying to kill the party you're doing something horribly wrong in the first place.
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    >GM is letting the player pick what he plays
    >Trying to minmax Paranoia
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:19 No.8681659
    well, Paranoia is really fun to GM, and it goes well when you've been GM for a while and start to hate your players. So you play Paranoia, kill them a bunch, and feel much better about it. If you do it well, the players might enjoy it too, but thats not really the point. It allows you to handle the more serious stuffs. Thats how I see it anyways.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:19 No.8681661

    No it isn't, it is a pointless depressing game


    I won't say, my GM goes to /tg/
    >> MR. RAGE !D9l9S8Lio6 03/20/10(Sat)11:20 No.8681668

    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:21 No.8681672
    the only way to break paranoia is to play it like a very serious game, avoid everything that funny.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:21 No.8681676
    I think this is the problem. We need to teach this guy the meaning of gallows humour.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:22 No.8681680
    >a pointless depressing game

    I've never played Paranoia, but the manner in which you phrased your grievance made you sound rather ignorant (or, to use a more colloquial turn of phrase, absolutely fucking retarded)
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:22 No.8681685
    Whats making it depressing? is he running it serious? cause that would be stupid. If you aren't killing players for filling out the wrong color form or simply arbitrary ways you're doing it wrong. theres a reason you get a 6-pack
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:24 No.8681700
    I just hate paranoia, is that so wrong?

    I just want to ruin the game
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:27 No.8681728

    Job and secret society


    People do drugs and die and everything is evil and pointless and there is no sex
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:27 No.8681729
    OP, have you actually played Paranoia before, or is this your first time? Have you had any sessions yet? Can you describe it and why you thought it was depressing?
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:28 No.8681739
    >>8681700 Ruin The Game

    The only way to do that is to take your toys and go home. throw a hissy. Whiner
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:28 No.8681746
    Yes, yes it is. Paranoia is awesome lighthearted metagaming roleplaying fun. If you hate it and think it's depressing, then you've cmpletely missed the point and probably have no imagination or sense of humour whatsoever. Just quit your group and go play FATAL. Your group will thank you.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:30 No.8681760
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    This looks like a really clever copy-pasta from that other bawfag who wanted to troll his 3.5 campaign. If this is, fuck you troll.

    Otherwise, how do you fucks get "forced" into playing these games? And even if you got forced, what's the point of ruining everyone else's fun? Either man up and just don't play/tell everyone your problem, or fucking play the game and stop being such a whining faggot. Your group deserves a better player than you.

    To think, some people on /tg/ don't even have a group to play with. You dick.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:30 No.8681762
    It is impossible to min/max in Paranoia. Doing so show evidence of understanding the rules and that in turn gets you killed. Throwing a monkey wrench in the plot gets you killed. ECT. The player is powerless that is part of the games core design
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:31 No.8681772
    I've seen this exact same copypasta for 3.5, 4e, and DH.

    /tg/ - still the easiest board to troll.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:32 No.8681776
    You could always... ADD sex. Just find some alone time with your fellow troubleshooter.

    One could make the same argument about most game systems - lots of people take potions in D&D for example, people die, and.. well, I won't say everything is evil but that's a subjective viewpoint.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:33 No.8681791
    But, but, this person seem so sincere! We must absolutely help him!
    >> noko Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:35 No.8681819
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    >Hey, I got forced into playing a Paranoia game, but the problem is I hate Paranoia.

    PROTIP: If you hate it, then don't play it.

    >Basically, how do I make the most min maxed character who will break the game and any tips to break the game while we are playing it?

    Congratulations. Your GM and the rest of players want to have a fun and you want to ruin it.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:36 No.8681826

    Oh shit, I've failed at noko
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:36 No.8681827
    >I just want to ruin the game

    Games are not your thing.

    Slam your cock in a door.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:36 No.8681831

    There really is no sex in paranoia, that is a GOOD thing. No more BBEG raping the one RL girl in the party
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:36 No.8681832
    Aye, but now we're started... Paranoia thread anyone?

    Thinking of running it for my group in a couple of weeks, after our DH campaign finishes up (for a bit of a short break from GRIMDARK and back to what, ironically enough, 40k started out being closer to). Only problem is I'm a bit stuck on what to do with the players. Anyone got any ideas for suitable missions for first timers to Paranoia?
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:37 No.8681843

    Also raises the question - why do you want sex in Paranoia? Why is that a reason to hate it?
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:40 No.8681871
    He's right. This is a shitty pasta from yesterday.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:42 No.8681888
    They have to protect an experimental stealth weapon. Unfortunately, Friend Computer does not know where the weapon is. The weapon is invisible and not actually there.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:43 No.8681898
    Have them go retrieve something from another sector. Like a prototype for R&D. Make it interesting along the way, things like have them be required to fill out a Blue form to gain access to the trains. Have Friend Computer ignore this issue.

    Also, lots of Bouncing Bubbly Beverage. its good for the happiness. Have Friend Computer make sure there are enough Happiness Officers. Happiness is Mandatory!
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:45 No.8681914
    That's a nice easy one. The troubleshooters can just bunk off and try not to get killed, then wait for the debriefing:

    "Yeah, we delivered the weapon to the labs. It was so stealthy it even hid our delivery!"

    "What do you mean, you don't see it in stores? Of course not, are you doubting Friend Computer's ability to make a wholly stealthed secret project? Are you some kind of mutant commie traitor debriefing officer?!"
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:49 No.8681953
    OP here, I am sorry if this looks like a troll post, but I assure you I am genuine
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:50 No.8681971
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:52 No.8681991
    problems like that are entirely the fault of the game master and can't be attributed to any system
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:53 No.8681999
    >Anyone got any ideas for suitable missions for first timers to Paranoia?

    >Have them go retrieve something from another sector. Like a prototype for R&D.

    Fetchquest is a good start to paranoia.

    Give them a vehicle for transport. Give it a flaw.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:53 No.8682002
    >>8681953 Ya, Troll.

    the real fun are the secret society missions. have the players do ridiculous things. Like steal the left shoe. or kill the loyalty officer. or other things.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:54 No.8682011
    "Get Friend Computer to marry you."
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:54 No.8682016
    I want to play the other game, I have a character made already to play, but he says I have to play Paranoia first.

    I want Paranoia to end quickly, what is so wrong with that? It is not fun for me, it is a silly and stupid system for people with no imagination only want to go:

    "Lol, I killed you"
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:56 No.8682035
    Paranoia doesn't really have a system.
    You can't min max.
    Paranoia is played with your wits and, at times the good grace of the dice gods (and the gm).
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:57 No.8682046
    You're clearly a filthy mutant traitor, OP and quite possible a Communist-

    No, wait, Friend Computer! I didn't mean-


    Also- You're still here. Good. I want you to know that you fail, as a person, and should stick your dick in a blender...Though you'd have to take it out of your mouth, first. This isn't even fun trolling, but acting like a little kid in a snit.

    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:57 No.8682048
    Play it as seriously as possible, then. That's all the advice we can give you.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:58 No.8682065
    > it is a silly and stupid system for people with no imagination only want to go: "Lol, I killed you"

    Most of the kills in paranoia are beyond imaginative. I've got someone about to try reprogramming a scrubot swarm to trundle about spraying alcoholic cleaning products over the lab they're in - the guy's a pyrokinetic.

    How about using your imagination and having fun trying to inventively kill your teammates, instead of kneejerking away from a non-standard game?
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:58 No.8682071

    How do I subtly ruin the sessions though?

    He is making us play SERIOUS BUSINESS paranoia


    Nice try anon, I don't have a dick
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)11:59 No.8682080

    I want to be in control, not have some power high GM kill us all.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:01 No.8682100
    What do you get out of being a wet blanket? a since of smug satisfaction and a group who hates you.

    Play it, try and have fun. Don't just shit on it. and on the bright side, if you don't like it, you can always leave the group and go start your own. Or you can stop whining, enjoy the game you play, and eventually play the game you want.

    So either change your attitude or Rage-quit.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:02 No.8682112
    >I want to be in control, not have some power high GM kill us all.

    Good Paranoia GMs won't need to kill you. Your other players are happy to pitch in.

    Current game status
    Payer-induced deaths : 4
    GM-induced deaths : 0
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:03 No.8682118

    The group hates me anyway, I want to make sure they have no fun and get this over with.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:04 No.8682136
    The only time I've killed a player in paranoia, as the GM, was when I handed a red character a blue form. He filled it out and turned it in. he deserved it
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:04 No.8682145
    Why exactly does the group hate you?

    Do you like the group?

    If you do not, and the dislike is mutual, can you not leave the group>
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:04 No.8682152

    If you are not having fun, then why the hell are you playing? seriously.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:05 No.8682155
    I am going behind the GM and trying to ally the players so we can ruin the story together, I am not having much success.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:05 No.8682156
    OP is either snoty asshat brat or a troll, but it occurs to me that the closest you can get to minmaxing in Paranoia is Trolling. Troll well enough and eventually someone will say/do something heretical, I mean communist, enough to justify a Blam.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:06 No.8682168
    ITT: we forget that paranoia says one of the three ways to play is grimdark extreme.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:07 No.8682185
    but thats the stupid unfun way.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:08 No.8682193
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:08 No.8682198
    I can't answer any more questions, as then the GM and group will know it is me posting this.

    But I need some help to topple the game or at least mix it up and stop it.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:10 No.8682212

    It is actually quite fun, imagine Brazil with a bit more humour.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:10 No.8682220
    OP, you're a pussy. If the group hates you and you hate them, why drag it out? I'm pretty sure they're politely waiting for you to piss off.

    Also- If you don't have a dick, yeah, I'd say you're a pussy. Your thread is silly, and 4chan isn't about to help you, here- We do it when it's *fun*, not when it's petty and childish...A word I hesitate to use, but I find *very* apt in this case.

    Want me to join in a rousing chorus of 'You're Not Okay?'
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:10 No.8682222
    In the Grimdark Extreme Future, there is only Trolls.
    Trolls trolling each other in the dark hope to kill their fellows in a manner that will give proof to Friend Computer of their worthiness to be raised to the next clearance, without getting lured into revealing their own heresy.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:12 No.8682237
    Why can't I get help? You support players ruining campaigns with the whole elffucker thing, but when I ask for some help you laugh at me?
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:12 No.8682242
    that actually sounds like it could be pretty badass
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:14 No.8682258
    Awww, I think he's going to cry.

    What, do you want us to cuddle you to your warm bosoms, and tell you it's going to be okay?

    Besides, the elffucker story was probably funny. This is just cheap and whiny...And it's much more fun to mock you.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:14 No.8682265
    Welcome to /tg/
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    >Want me to join in a rousing chorus of 'You're Not Okay?'
    I think he is frustrated
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:16 No.8682278
    whats the elffucker story? cause that sounds awesome
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:16 No.8682284
    Because you sound like a jerk.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:17 No.8682293
    Take 'im down, boys.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:17 No.8682301
    We have already provided ample help (mainly to either take everything seriously ingame) or to leave the group (perhaps making them short of players and thus depriving their group and making them have shorter, more unsatisfying sessions without your honoured presence).

    If you choose to disregard this advice, we cannot help you further.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:18 No.8682318

    It is actually called Elfslayer, about a magnificent bastard who pulls off a genius plan to derail the Mary Sue Gay Elf We can all be Friends campaign.

    He does it with style though and pretty much everyone liked the changes.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:19 No.8682330
    Actually, come to think of it, we probably couldn't help you in the first place.

    To be, y'know, less of a failure as a person.

    Also, mmmmm, yes, yes. Your anguish sustains me.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:19 No.8682334
    There was also the Man Up and Don't Whine Advice
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:20 No.8682350
    It was never finished, wasn't it?
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:20 No.8682355

    That won't work though
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:21 No.8682365
    There was that, but if he actually followed that sensible piece of advice OP wouldn't have been able to ruin the game like he wanted to.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:21 No.8682376
    The chances are slim of there being more than one group that:
    A) Has a dickless dick that doesn't want to play.
    B) Will be playing what the dickless dick wants next.
    C) Is soon to play Paranoia.
    D) Has had the dickless dick already try to go and form an alliance with the other players and gotten rebuffed.
    E) Has a dickless dick that doesn't get along with the rest of the group that would resort to childish tantrums plotting to destroy everyone else's fun.
    If the GM or players come to /tg/, it is too late to hide your identity now.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:22 No.8682393
    Hey, hypothetical DM-who-reads-4chan. If you're reading this, and you have a whiny bitch in your group- And an upcoming Paranoia game next week- can you bitchslap him for me?

    Do it, and I'll brofist you through the internet.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:22 No.8682398
    OP still here, please /tg/, I am begging you for this, I need help.

    Should I read the rulebook?
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:22 No.8682401
    In which case /tg/ cannot help you mechanically with the rules, as any GM will instagib you if you fuck around too much. If you can provide details of the story or mission you are currently on, which secret society you belong to and what mutant power you have, we may be able to come up with excellent ways to troll your companions.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:24 No.8682426
    I'm still fairly sure he's trolling us.

    We have a *real-life troll*, right here, right now.

    Imagine the possibilities- FOR SCIENCE.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:24 No.8682435
    but probably wont. cause the OP SUCKS DICK.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:25 No.8682450
    This thread is the most fun I've had today. F5'ing like hell, here.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:27 No.8682465

    I would but then he would know it is me, at least this way I can deny it is me if he sees this.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:28 No.8682488
    Soooo~ You're a dickless dick who won't man up enough to tell someone *that*, to his face, but would prefer to sulk, whine and 'get back at him' through a game whose entire premise is black comedy and hilarious death?


    Are you older than twelve years old, by the way? No reason.
    >> A-Flat Minor ♪ 03/20/10(Sat)12:29 No.8682500
    There was an attempt to recruit me into a paranoia game.

    I dunno.. it just seemed really fucking creepy reading the little read book the GM gave me. Fucking shit was it creepy as hell. And the rules force you to be a snitch in a weirdo secret society. I also rolled a spy for another society.

    I dunno.. it just felt like I was joining a cult rather than playing a game.
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    >I would but then he would know it is me, at least this way I can deny it is me if he sees this.

    I am disguise
    >> MR. RAGE !D9l9S8Lio6 03/20/10(Sat)12:30 No.8682525


    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:31 No.8682534
    > 8682500

    I have the strangest feeling you're the OP, especially since (s)he's started posting anoymously. Because you're the only idiot who's speaking up in his defense.

    Do you feel *threatened* by me, OP?
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:34 No.8682567

    I must play that game. RIGHT NOW.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:35 No.8682587
    In that case as you are unwilling to divulge information all we can provide are generic "try trolling the other players and the GM".

    Some interesting character types where it should be easy to troll with:

    Idealistic young troubleshooter who loves Friend Computer with all his heart and would gladly follow every instruction given to him literally to the letter.

    Explosives expert.

    R&D tester who wants to try out (read: touch) as many different types of item or gadget as possible.

    The guy who just won't die

    A Commie Mutant Traitor (as described in the OP). You don't actually have to shout proper communist propaganda, but it'll annoy them if you shout loud enough.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:37 No.8682613

    That thread was so fucking amazing...


    It ended, it had four parts, I think.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:39 No.8682649

    It is a thing of terrible beauty. I am awed, and blinded by it's brilliance. I would look, but I fear the AWESOME would burn my eyes from their sockets...

    -Hell, I'll risk it.

    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:39 No.8682655

    It's already too late.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:40 No.8682658
    Here is the most I can give, I am a registered mutant in a normal secret society.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:41 No.8682676

    I can still deny it though, nothing implicates me here directly.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:43 No.8682716
    You can still-



    You're a fucking riot, and a dickless pussy- Wait, redundant- OP.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:44 No.8682732

    I can, nothing links me
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:45 No.8682761
    Fuck, not the explosives expert!
    Ha, after the first couple TPKs the rest of the team will practically shoot on sight and figure out the excuse after the fact.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:48 No.8682818
    This thread has made me want to play Paranoia. Shame I'm stuck in an ass-backwards rural town where there's no gaming groups or stores whatsoever.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:49 No.8682839

    You can play online
    >> A-Flat Minor ♪ 03/20/10(Sat)12:50 No.8682855
    The GM isn't a creepy.

    He just fucking sucks at explaining anything. At all.


    In any way at all.

    It's the little red book that was CREEPY AS FUCK to read through. Also, any time people on this board talk about paranoia, they go into this weird mode of creepy in joke no one else is privy to.

    I'm told it's supposed to be parody. A joke, but from what I've gathered it feels mostly LOL RANDOM rather than anything actually funny.

    I was willing to let the GM explain the setting to me.. except all he would say is ASK ME ANYTHING. What do I ask? I know fucking nothing. I have no reference point to ask from. Then he brought in another player to help me.. who was also new and didn't know anything about Paranoia either. This player then decided to be a complete ass.

    So I just put my foot down and left. I'd rather play a game that actually tells me what the fuck I am supposed to be playing. All I got was this stupid little red book that kept spouting FRIEND COMPUTER FRIEND COMPUTER FRIEND COMPUTER in character brainwashed stuff at me rather than trying to acclimate me to the idea and purpose of the game.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:51 No.8682879
    The thing is, OP, while it may not implicate you directly, if you choose to take any course of action here (e.g. play as the explosive expert) while it won't hold up in a court of law the GM and other players will likely suspect you in any case.

    Since this is the case, we won't be able to give you any specific advice at all. Come on, if you asked for a build to troll your GM with, then expect him not to realise you're playing with the exact same build that /tg/ came up with, then either you think he's utterly retarded (in which case he wouldn't recognise you anyway and you should provide details of the campaign) or you're kind of missing a few shipments of braincells.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:52 No.8682902

    Ignorance is important, better to know too little than too much, the GM was doing the right thing.
    >> MR. RAGE !D9l9S8Lio6 03/20/10(Sat)12:53 No.8682908



    >> A-Flat Minor ♪ 03/20/10(Sat)12:53 No.8682919
    >The GM isn't a creepy

    ..creeper I mean.

    He isn't a creeper. He just sucks at explaining anything he means. He's always been that way.

    He's actually reading this thread right now, and is asking me if he thinks _______ is the OP. To him I say HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW?
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:53 No.8682925

    Did you actually play? Or you looked at the book and never gave it a fair shake?
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)12:54 No.8682935

    >How do I minmax at Paranoia

    >> A-Flat Minor ♪ 03/20/10(Sat)12:59 No.8683020
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    Yeah yeah, PICTURE RELATED wouldn't shut up about how ignorance is vital. Except, I can't fucking make a character like that. I just can't. I can't make a character for a setting I know literally nothing about. I can't make a character with no history or personality. I can't fill any of that in without knowing something.

    If the rules system was involved enough I could at least FAKE IT and make something interesting for me to play rules wise and FAKE being a fully developed character.. but we know the problem with that.

    I know absolutely fucking nothing.

    And picture related is all I have in reference to what the hell this game is supposed to be like.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:01 No.8683046

    Then stick to rules heavy games like D&D 3.5, I don't think Paranoia is the game for you. It is its own unique and wonderful flavor, just not the game for you.

    Personally I love not knowing the rules.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:02 No.8683061
    Sounds more like a bad DM than anything else. All you need to know is it's a post-apocalyptic setting (though you don't know that) and you all live in this Alpha-complex place, a vaguely futuristic giant complex. Everything's colour-coded for security reasons, you're here to troubleshoot stuff that Friend Computer (the benevolent AI who controls the complex) tells you to. Mutants and spies for secret societies are traitorous scum and should be killed. Also, you're a mutant and a member of a secret society.
    >> Anon-R-MUS-1 03/20/10(Sat)13:02 No.8683062
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    It's OK, everybody!

    Now that the Troubleshooters are here you can all relax!

    As long as you can show me your clearance papers for your HappiTyme suppositories.
    >> Anon-R-MUS-1 03/20/10(Sat)13:03 No.8683078
    If the GM didn't tell you this much they're a bad GM.
    >> A-Flat Minor ♪ 03/20/10(Sat)13:06 No.8683121
    I haven't played.

    I can't get excited or even happy enough to do more than stare at the wall over a character I know nothing about. The system makes your character for you; not that there is much depth anyway. All I know is I'm the 'equipment guy' because that was the last spot open, and I'm in a secret society(so is everyone.. but I don't like the idea of secret societies even in play. they don't interest me at all, but there is no opt out in the system). That's it.

    I cannot construct a personality because I have nothing to latch on to.

    I don't know what people expect of me.
    >> Anon-R-MUS-1 03/20/10(Sat)13:07 No.8683133
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    Friend Computer wanted me to post these in a public area.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:07 No.8683141
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    Anon-R-MUS-1, why exactly are you in that ULTRAVIOLET level corridor as a RED troubleshooter?

    Being in an ULTRAVIOLET corridor is grounds for immediate termination, remember!
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:08 No.8683152

    You have utter freedom, if you need rules to define you, then choose a new system.
    >> Anon-R-MUS-1 03/20/10(Sat)13:08 No.8683155
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    Is everyone having a super-great day?
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:08 No.8683163
    A Paranoia thread, and I missed it? Damn thing must have been above my clearance.

    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:09 No.8683171
    So you just need someone to explain the basic concept.

    It's a silly world where the computer runs the show. You get a 6-pack, or 6 clones. There are clearance levels that are color coded. If you are not a high enough color doing something beyond that clearance level is illegal. The punishment for 99% of illegality is death.

    So what you'll see, as an example, is Friend Computer giving you a mission to get say

    Maybe your given a prototype gun and given clearance to use it. But the instructions for it require you be a higher level. So now you have this weird pretzel shaped lightning gun that may well kill you if you try to use it the wrong way.

    The goal for most of this should be "....and hilarity ensues." The clones encourage player kills. As do secret societies.

    Friend Computer is like Glados in Portal. A not all there AI entity with control of cloning vats that plays with peoples lives.

    ETC. I mean I have unfortunately not played it. However, I have seen some good concise explanations on /tg/. Some or all of what I have said may not be in character knowledge for the majority of PCs. /tg/ if I made any mistakes correct me.
    >> Anon-R-MUS-1 03/20/10(Sat)13:09 No.8683172
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    I'm sorry, Friend Computer! You sent me in here to paint this room Red!
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:09 No.8683181

    Alpha Complex is an enclosed, underground city, isolated from the devastation of the outside world, and tyrannically ruled by a dysfunctional and delusional Computer. The Computer isn't thoroughly aware of the world outside of Alpha Complex, and regards it with fear and suspicion, while it governs the Complex itself with edicts sourced from it's vast data store of old, often confused, and commonly contradictory data files. The Computer attempts to defend Alpha Complex from it's percieved enemies - Communists, Mutants, and Traitors.

    The players take on the roles of members of a team Troubleshooters - Newly-promoted citizens of Alpha Complex, whose role is to seek out trouble, and shoot it. This includes seeking out Enemies of the Computer, and terminating or capturing them, for the glory of Alpha Complex, and Friend Computer!

    The one small flaw in this brilliant plan? Every citizen of Alpha Complex is either a Communist, a Mutant, or a Traitor, in one fashion or another. Every player has a mutant power, and belongs to a traiterous secret society. Add in confused, misleading, or completely incorrect assignments, badly labeled and often dangerously experimental equipment, and many players with often competing goals, and it becomes obvious why Troubleshooter missions are so often fatal.

    Essentially - You will be given a mission, which may not even be possible, you will be given equipment, which may kill you just as certainly as your opponents, you will be part of a team of commie mutant traitors, who will most certainly be trying to kill you first, you will be given additional personal goals, which may be mutually exclusive with your mission or leave you directly competing against your teammates, and you have to deal with all of this in a dystopian nightmare city, goverened by an eccentric, senile, confused Computer, who holds ultimate authority over the entire complex, and will order your termination on a whim.
    >> Anon-R-MUS-1 03/20/10(Sat)13:10 No.8683198
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    It's really great that they raised the minimum happiness level in this sector!
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:10 No.8683200
    Absolutely, Friend Computer! And of course, you would never allow such a thing! And as Friend Computer is perfect, I would of course never be able to enter a corridor above my clearance level without his consent! Therefore, I must be the correct clearance level.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:11 No.8683219
    That is correct, Anon-R-MUS-2. You are here to paint this room RED. This room is clearly ULTRAVIOLET. Please continue your task.
    >> Anon-R-MUS-2 03/20/10(Sat)13:13 No.8683253
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    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:13 No.8683254
    Jesus christ. Just read Elf Slayer.

    Made my week.

    My life, even.

    >> A-Flat Minor ♪ 03/20/10(Sat)13:14 No.8683273
    I prefer to free form, honestly. That's been harder to find in recent years. Thus my move to PnP.

    My comment was simply.. if I can't know enough about the setting itself to actually make a character with.. then I could at least have used the rules to make something I'd like and FAKE being an actualized character. I'd prefer not to, but that's my back up for when I land in games where I don't get any fluff provided to me.

    I do prefer rules heavy though. It gives me something to occupy my brain. No offense, but PnPers aren't the most involved interesting lot to RP with. The rules give me something to keep me not bored. If we don't have that then I'd rather just not have a pretense of rules at all and just free form.

    >post-apoc but unknown to the character. protected from this truth of the outside world by the computer



    GOD DAMN. NOW IT MAKES MORE SENSE. That isn't much, but it is a lot more to latch on to than I had. Fucking hell. That helps me a LOT to understand the IN CHARACTER tone of the setting rather than endless joking about FRIEND COMPUTER WANTS YOU TO BE HAPPY(happiness is mandatory).

    Now I'm just pissed off that nobody would come out and just fucking say this kind of shit.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:16 No.8683314
    I suspect I was in the same game as OP and A-Flat Minor ♪. The GM did give us a fair bit of info. Basically, what everyone's already said we should know we knew, plus a few bits and pieces more, as well as all having a copy of the LRB.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:16 No.8683320
    It is very simple, you don't make a character. It is rolled randomly and the GM secretly tells you what you have.
    Paranoia is more like a boardgame or party game, expect your main weapon is roleplaying and out-thinking.
    >> Anon-R-MUS-2 03/20/10(Sat)13:16 No.8683322
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    >Now I'm just pissed off that nobody would come out and just fucking say this kind of shit.

    Sounds like your fellow Troubleshooters are no-good Commies.

    I always knew your Sector was trouble.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:16 No.8683331
    Have you played DH? Paranoia is like DH injected with GOOD BAD WRONG FUN. You play troubleshooters, people who make sure things run smoothly for Friend Computer. Thing is, Friend Computer runs things fatally for nearly everyone, and everyone pretty much knows it. They all just have different ideas as how to overthrow and run society without being offed by Friend Computer and his associates. So if you belong to competing revolutionary groups, odds are you are going to use Friend Computer to help off the competition. And since the competition has clones, well, it's a good idea to keep them from getting their memory uploaded too, too often. In short, NO WUN EES LOYALE, EVRYWUN EES HERETEEC.
    Questions to ask yourself:
    How did you join your secret society? Were you a zealot from the start or did you just stumble into a meeting on accident and "volunteered?" Or are you just some schmoe named Brian who got involved with something larger than life? Are you fine with killing, do you enjoy it, do you prefer others to kill for you, or do you hate the very thought?
    >> Friend Computer 03/20/10(Sat)13:17 No.8683341
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    Anon-R-MUS-2, I have noted a significant increase of humidity from your pores. Are you experiencing discomfort? Is the level of heat inappropriate for this sector? As I am responsible for the happiness of everyone in the Alpha Complex, it would be remiss not to query your status.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:18 No.8683365
    I tried right there. He just did it far better then me. ><
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:19 No.8683377

    Except the GM makes the fluff, they are free to change the basic setting.
    >> Anon-R-MUS-2 03/20/10(Sat)13:21 No.8683414
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    Erhm.... no, no, Friend Computer! It's the perfect temperature in here! It's always nice and well-lit in Alpha Complex, yes sir!

    I heard that guy thinks it's too hot in here, though!

    *points at a hapless Infra currently plunging out the Food-o-Vat intake feed*
    >> Hapless Infra currently plunging out the Food-o-Vat intake feed Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:22 No.8683436
    >> A-Flat Minor ♪ 03/20/10(Sat)13:23 No.8683455


    It's been so god damn aggravating getting anything out of my GM. I get that the game apparently doesn't want you to know anything so you are genuinely blind, but I just can't fucking operate like that. I need to be able to make a real character to play. For that I need information.

    Yeah yeah.. people can flaunt worries about potential meta gaming all they want. Fuck anyone that thinks it. Not metagaming is easy. Anyone that thinks a player can't go without metagaming can eat their own knees.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:24 No.8683473

    So what now?

    Are you going to give it a shot?
    >> Anon-R-MUS-2 03/20/10(Sat)13:25 No.8683493
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    Yeah, that's pretty stupid to withhold info like WHAT ALPHA COMPLEX IS LIKE.

    You're not allowed to know the rules, but you're a native to Alpha Complex.
    >> Friend Computer 03/20/10(Sat)13:27 No.8683514
    Hapless Infra currently plunging out the Food-o-Vat intake feed, you have apparently been overheard to voice complaints about the heating systems. There are no complaints in Alpha Complex. Conclusion: Sound damping is unsuitable, cause: communists.

    Please hold still as Happy_Sound_Damping_Spray is applied. Do not be alarmed at the white colouration on your clothes, it is standard for the Happy_Sound_Damping_Spray. Have a pleasant and mandatory happy day!
    >> Anon-R-MUS-2 03/20/10(Sat)13:27 No.8683535
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    Anyway, I need to get back to posting these forms.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:28 No.8683539
    okay done
    >I remember that thread. man, fuck that guy. this might be a troll in a similar vein but it's not direct pasta.
    adding sex is difficult/impossible/hilarious and won't ruin the game.
    if you've never run it before, try running "Me and My Shadow, Mark IV" - it's a classic module and it's well written. (that's the one about guarding a giant sentient tank)
    I've had to kill party members before. One filled out a form with "I am a communist who hates the computer" in what he /thought/ was unintelligible handwriting. Another one looked at the secret info on another players character sheet. But I guess those were the player suicides anyway.
    >> Anon-R-MUS-2 03/20/10(Sat)13:29 No.8683563
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    *glances nervously at the Ultraviolet citizen*
    >> A-Flat Minor ♪ 03/20/10(Sat)13:31 No.8683583
    To be fair, the GM left an open offer for me to ask questions.

    To be more fair, how am I supposed to ask questions when I don't know where to start?


    I'll consider it.

    I need time to not be pissed off now. I've been banging my head against a wall over this.

    But I have to consider how I'm already in three PnP games, and this game happens early morning for me. At least that is when they held the first session(it started an hour late.. and by the time it did I had to go to fucking bed). I don't know if my sleep schedule will allow me to do this.

    If I did.. I'd also be constantly flip flopping between night time day time sleep schedule so I can make all my games.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:31 No.8683594


    >> Anon-R-MUS-2 03/20/10(Sat)13:33 No.8683623
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    If you'd like to play online I can guarantee suptg would run a game.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:34 No.8683652
    >creepy in joke no one else is privy to
    ah you see, Paranoia a creepy in joke no one is privy to.

    not "no-one else." just "no-one."
    >> Friend Computer 03/20/10(Sat)13:35 No.8683663
    Anon-R-MUS-2, have I ever described how beautiful your clear blue eyes are? They shine out like a beacon of joy across the already serene Alpha Complex, clearing communism and mutants from their path.

    I note you BLUE eyes are in a RED troubleshooter. Are you using eyes above your security clearance?
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:36 No.8683689
    another classic character build is "the guy who steals everything". basically need very high slight of hand, concealment and chutzpah for when you get caught. then throw everyone elses stuff away.
    >> A-Flat Minor ♪ 03/20/10(Sat)13:41 No.8683719
    Eh.. nah.

    Swords and sorcery type things are more my speed anyway. I'm in Dark Heresy.. but that's just a fantasy setting with a very cheap scifi plating on it(that is chipped off almost everywhere already).

    And perhaps I'm not suited to Paranoia in other ways.

    I am about as subtle as a god damn brick.

    A brick the size of a Humvee.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:44 No.8683746
    How to win at Paranoia:
    Get a laptop.
    Set it to 4chan.
    Lol heartily at things only you can see.
    Eat chips or any other crunchy food loudly at the table. Do not share with anyone else.
    Give halfarsed commands to your character after completely ignoring all plot development.

    If questioned or confronted on this behaviour, point out that Paranoia isn't meant to be played seriously, and you're going to chill the fuck out with some chips and 4chan, and not get deeply involved with it.
    Enjoy delicious counter-rage.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:45 No.8683754
    My first clone died because I made a mistake in my character sheet. :P
    >> Anon-R-MUS-2 03/20/10(Sat)13:49 No.8683812
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    These... were the eyes I came out of the tank with?

    *squeezes eyes shut and thinks of a cool refreshing Bouncy Bubbly Beverage*
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)13:52 No.8683873
    oh man, I just found a paranoia thread on 2channel.
    "sageは反逆者の証。ZAPZAPZAP!!!" (sage is a sign of a traitor. ZAPZAPZAP!!!)
    >> Friend Computer 03/20/10(Sat)13:59 No.8683962
    There is no need to be afraid, Anon-R-MUS-2. All beings no matter their security clearance are loved, from the highest Ultraviolet Programmers to the lowly but no-less important Infrared labourers. Even the mutants and communists are worthy of love. There are no mutants and communists in the Alpha complex. Mutants and communists will be removed for the good of the Alpha complex. With love.

    Please accept this Happy_Fun_beverage mk3 prototype Bubbly_Bubbly_Bubbly_Bubbly_Bouncy_Beverage. Be sure not to get any in your eyes, not only will they become bloodshot it is not an approved drinking method!
    >> Anon-R-MUS-2 03/20/10(Sat)14:06 No.8684104
    Oh wow!

    Thanks, Friend Computer!

    *glug glug glug*
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)14:09 No.8684147
    ITT: How to succeed at painting a room (blood) red, die horribly, and test a prototype beverage at the same time.

    Admittedly the last two usually go together.
    >> Friend Computer 03/20/10(Sat)14:13 No.8684215
    You are welcome, Anon-R-MUS-3.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)14:41 No.8684669
    Bah only 4? The story is not over. What happens next?
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)14:44 No.8684718
    Found 5.
    >> Anonymous 03/20/10(Sat)15:31 No.8685417
    >Freeform RP

    Kill yourself. The world would be a better place without your mary sue bullshit.

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