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    99 KB Fate/Stay Quest 3: Another Character!? FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)18:14 No.8651031  
    Last Time: A new mage found himself involved in the Holy Grail War. Tobe Suzuhara, a young apprentice mage to Kentaro Tohsaka, was chosen by his master to represent his family in the upcoming Holy Grail War. Tobe accepted his teacher's commandment and proceeded in an attempt to summon Ogliaf the Dane as Servant Saber. His plan backfired when a completely different servant, a mysterious armored figure calling himself Rider, appeared out of nowhere and said that he was Tobe's summoned servant. After a brush with Volg and Lancer, the two sped off to the church in order to inform the head priest of their participation...

    HOWEVER. Our eyes will move to another magus who is tied to this war. The young and beautiful Janya Tohsaka. The daughter of the once exceedingly powerful Kentaro Tohsaka. Ever since she was a child she has spent her life training to be a magus and studying all the affairs of a magus. The one event that fascinated her the most was the Holy Grail War. One that her family had taken great pride in and had almost won on more than one occasion. As such, she had grown into a dedicated and prepared woman. Plotting for the day that she would participate and make her family proud...

    Which is why she currently stands in her father's trophy room. Absolutely furious at the old man who sits down at his desk. Spending her whole life prepping for this event, and the no-name lackey her father brought on board because he felt sorry for him is getting the job!? This is not merely insulting to you as a mage but insulting as a member of the Tohsaka family.

    Will you attempt to reason with your father? Defy him? Would you even take such a course. You know full well that defying a superior family member brings with it a series of risks... but then. That's really up to you to decide isn't it?

    Last thread: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8617692/

    (Sorry I wasn't here yesterday guys. Got caught up in St. Patrick's day)
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:15 No.8651043
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:17 No.8651071
    Actually, let's go reason with the old man. Certainly we can assist the idiot who stole your rightful place, right? At least make certain he doesn't fuck up?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:20 No.8651116
    Let's go reason with him. Defying him is balls-to-the-wall stupid.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:23 No.8651156
    Also, be prepared. Shit's about to get real.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:24 No.8651174
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)18:26 No.8651212

    "Look. Da-" you begin but catch yourself "... father," you don't want to come off as informal. There's a time and a place for being Kentaro Tohsaka's daughter and this is not it.

    "Can't I just assist that moron Tobe? There's no way he can last this long in the Holy Grail War! His skills as a magus aren't nearly up to snuff!"

    Your father nods "Indeed. I even had to surrender my cherished belt to him. Simply to give him some hope that it would be enough of a boost."

    "Then let me help! I can easily-"

    "ABSOLUTELY NOT! Janya. We've discussed this," he explains "the Holy Grail war... it's not a simple skirmish. Janya you've spent your whole life living in this fantasy tale. Believing that the Holy Grail war was simply a clash of great and powerful heroes... but it is much more than that. It is a battle to the death. A competition of not simply power but strategy. Half the time servants are killed because their masters are taken out first! It is a dangerous and terrifying war."

    You look at him with a concerned expression... could he be worried about you? Now that you recall. He DID compete in the last Holy-Grail War. Maybe he knows something you don't?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:30 No.8651269
    How much do we know ourselves about the Holy Grail War? Once we know that, we can properly form our questions.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:31 No.8651286
    Murmur something and go into our room. We'll summon a servant on our own.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:33 No.8651304
    Even so... Maybe he's worried about you, but aren't you worried for the idiot? I mean, who will you insult and berate if he dies?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:33 No.8651314

    I hate that word so much after the Mirror Moon translation used it 500 times and not once any of its synonyms.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)18:35 No.8651343

    You understand the general basics.

    A group of magus summon heroes from across time, assign them to a general class and have them work to destroy/oppose other servants and/or masters.

    The last Holy Grail War was about 50 years ago. Although the actual specs behind that seemed to be rather... unusual. All that was known for sure was that the tallest skyscraper in Skyline city was completely leveled overnight on the final day of that particular war.

    The news reports said it was terrorism. But considering what you knew you just assumed it was a battle between servants. Even then the demolition of an entire skyscraper seems much...
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:37 No.8651378
    We need our own servant. We can manipulate Tobe pretty easily. With the power of two servants victory should be easy.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:40 No.8651420
    After all, Tobe wants in your pants so much it hurts.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:43 No.8651477
    Let us summon our own servant. But... which one?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:43 No.8651482
    Lets just head back to our room and rethink the situation. I assume we're gonna try and summon our own servant? Well lets see what kind of magical artifacts are lying around the house we can use as a catalyst.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:44 No.8651505
    Saber of course.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)18:44 No.8651507
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    Reluctantly you nod your head and accept your father's wishes... superficially at least.

    You proceed to move to out of his room and make your way to your own bedroom. FINE! If he doesn't want you to compete then it looks like you'll have to do things on your own!

    Only question is... what servant could you summon?

    Maybe it'd be best to just risk it and go with a straight up summoning? You're a pretty powerful and experienced magus.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:45 No.8651521
    There is a lot of artifacts in the mansion. We could snatch something pretty easily. Let's look for something suitable.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:45 No.8651523
    I vote for either Caster or Saber.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:46 No.8651530

    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:46 No.8651539
    We're already a powerful magus. Saber would be better.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:47 No.8651549
    Damnit, what was that dude who split an anvil with his sword testing it?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:49 No.8651576
    If we're going Saber, any reason not to go all out and aim for Miyamoto Musashi?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:50 No.8651605
    He's a crook. A famous crook but still crook.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:51 No.8651619
    Miyamoto Musashi (宮本 武蔵?) (c. 1584–June 13 (Japanese calendar: May 19), 1645), also known as Shinmen Takezō, Miyamoto Bennosuke, or by his Buddhist name Niten Dōraku[1], was a Japanese swordsman and samurai famed for his duels and distinctive style. Musashi, as he was often simply known, became renowned through stories of his excellent swordsmanship in numerous duels, even from a very young age. He was the founder of the Hyōhō Niten Ichi-ryū or Niten-ryū style of swordsmanship and the author of The Book of Five Rings (五輪書 Go Rin No Sho?), a book on strategy, tactics, and philosophy that is still studied today.

    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:53 No.8651655
    He used cheap tactics and underhanded bluffs and tricks.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)18:56 No.8651696
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    You think it over.

    Miyamoto Musashi does seem like a shoe-in for Saber class. Being Japan's most famous swordsman alive would definitely qualify.

    There's something off however. If you do summon him, you doubt he will be as noble as many other servants. Summoning him could have some serious drawbacks if he decides to go rogue.

    Then again, his power would definitely be a handy trait.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:57 No.8651704
    What are the most awesome artifacts in the mansion?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)18:59 No.8651741
    How about either Huiguang or Sengchou, the founders of Shaolin Kung Fu?
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)19:00 No.8651758

    They would most likely be kept in Father's basement behind his mage-sealed door. It wouldn't be IMPOSSIBLE for you to break in. But then, it may clue him in that you're attempting to participate in the Holy Grail War anyway.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:02 No.8651790
    How about Jing Ke?

    Swordsman who attempted to assassinate the emperor of china. Had a movie based on him staring Jet Li.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:02 No.8651791
    What kind of artifact are there?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:04 No.8651815
    Find an anvil.

    Split it in half.

    Use to summon.

    Recieve badass.
    He was also supposed to be pretty attractive too.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:05 No.8651824
    That's troublesome. How about we do something stupid and summon without a focus?
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)19:05 No.8651834

    A lot of things. Due to your father's supreme wealth he has collected cultural artifacts from around the world. The only other place that could compete with them would be the museum. But as that was broken into a few days ago, you doubt they're gonna let anything else get stolen.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:05 No.8651835
    Guan Yu. GUAN YU.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:06 No.8651847
    ask what artifacts are available
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:07 No.8651856
    We can't possibly be that stupid...can we?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:07 No.8651860
    Ok. Let's fucking do it and hope we won't botch the roll. Wait until the middle of the night and try to break into the basement.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)19:07 No.8651868

    OK since we have a lot of random numbers going around. Roll a d20, person with the highest (or the first person to roll a 20) and puts his suggestion down decides what servant we try and summon.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:07 No.8651879
    ask father for intel; what does he know about the other participants? (so we can get in-character knowledge of the other two characters we've been along with intel on what's been summoned by them and whoever else is participating)
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:09 No.8651899
    rolled 7 = 7

    Rollan for Jing Ke
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:09 No.8651902
    Volg related question:

    Volg is a Reinforcement specialist.

    We've seen Reinforcement magic used to enhance eyesight, strengthen inanimate objects, and improve physical attributes.

    Can we use Reinforcement magic on Vlaud's Physical stats? How much can we improve a stat?

    Because even if its only one rank, Vampire Vlaud gets STR C, AGI A+ End B, and Dutiful King Vlaud gets STR B, AGI A++ and END A, making Dutiful King Vlaud more dangerous than Arturia in raw stats.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:10 No.8651908
    rolled 11 = 11

    Don't summon without a focus. Break into the basement for now.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:10 No.8651910
    If we're worried about Musashi not being a gentleman...
    How about the Paladin Roland? Mainly because he wields Durandal, which is unbreakable and ridiculously holy.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:10 No.8651914
    rolled 15 = 15

    rolling for... wild card: dm decides
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:11 No.8651928
    Good one. We can go with him. But we still need a focus.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)19:11 No.8651934

    Volg's reinforcement magic was trained specifically to give him enhanced strength and endurance against bear fighting. He could theoretically empower Vlaud but it would leave him weakened and he couldn't raise ALL of his stats by 1 rank. Maybe 1 or 2.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)19:12 No.8651948

    Roll a d20 if you want your suggestion chosen.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:12 No.8651950
    How do I roll?

    Roll d20

    Odysseus please!
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:14 No.8651979
    Still, not terrible, Dutiful King could still hit STR B, AGI A++ and END B, which is hella nice.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:14 No.8651983
    rolled 10 = 10

    I vote to try for a Caster, since you can never have too much magic.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:14 No.8651994
    rolled 13, 5 = 18

    roland and odysseus
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:16 No.8652018
    rolled 11 = 11

    Caster, Moses
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:17 No.8652030
    Thanks, though curses! Odysseus = MASTERMIND TIER.

    Hell, serious, you could summon Odysseus as an Archer. He would have maxed out Independant Action. He could win the Grail War by himself.

    Miyamoto and Odysseus confirmed for CHEAT LIKE BASTARDS TIER.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:18 No.8652049
    I'm for Roland too. But it would be nice if we had a focus.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:18 No.8652058
    rolled 6 = 6

    I'll try... Rolling for waiting waiting until we see what resources we have.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)19:20 No.8652092
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    ALRIGHT! Paladin Roland it will be!

    Luckily. Your father happens to have an artifact that can do the trick. A broken sword that was once used by the nephew of Charlemagne.

    Now... how do you go about getting it?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:21 No.8652098
    Alright, Odysseus, by himself.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:21 No.8652103
    rolled 54 = 54

    Lu Bu as a Berserker.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:21 No.8652113
    rolled 41 = 41

    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:24 No.8652155
    Okay, so we're going to summon Odysseus.

    Let's hope he has his bow with him.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:25 No.8652167
    Durandal? Well this might be interesting. We could either end up summoning Roland or Hector of Troy, both of which I'm okay with.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:25 No.8652173
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:28 No.8652215
    >In The Song of Roland, the sword is said to contain within its golden hilt one tooth of Saint Peter, blood of Saint Basil, hair of Saint Denis, and a piece of the raiment of the Blessed Virgin Mary
    Why hello there Dracula. We have something nice for you.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:29 No.8652229
    Wait until he goes to sleep and creep silently to where it is.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)19:29 No.8652238

    OK. As night draws near you begin to make your way to Father's safe. After climbing down a few flight of stairs, you make your way to the tall iron door where your father keeps his various artefact's. If you want to break in without leaving a trace it won't be easy. The "wall" is bound with several arcane runes.

    Roll a d20.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:30 No.8652252
    ...I think just waving it in his general direction would cause him to light on fire.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:30 No.8652254
    I say we prepare our summon location and wait till later that night to break in and steal the artifact. If we botch the theft, we still have a prepared summoning area to attempt a random summon.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:30 No.8652258
    rolled 3 = 3

    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:31 No.8652267
    We're using this roll.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:32 No.8652279
    Maybe we should go and try to persuade our father more rather than attempting to steal his shit. I'd really rather go into this with another experienced mage as backup rather than potential threat.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)19:33 No.8652302

    The door suddenly burns and sound starts emanating from it. CRAP!

    You gotta do something fast!

    "What's down there?" your father's voice comes from up above. Crap! He's heading straight for you!
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:34 No.8652318

    Well it seems we needed a High roll...
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:35 No.8652333

    Cast a mind control spell on ourself if possible.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:36 No.8652346
    rolled 20 = 20

    Blast the door and grab the closest artifact! No time to pick and choose.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:36 No.8652348
    He is old! We are Asuka! Run in, snatch ANYTHING, run! He would be hard pressed to chase us, and unwilling to do anything too harsh to his beloved by rebellious daughter!
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)19:38 No.8652372

    You proceed to try and cast a mind control spell on... yourself?

    NO! It's the perfect bluff! He'll think we're sleepwalking and then we can look perfectly innocent!

    Roll a d20 to see how well the effect works.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:38 No.8652385
    rolled 7 = 7

    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:41 No.8652428
    All else fails, we could do >>8652346
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:44 No.8652471
    ...Maybe we -should- sit the Grail War out.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)19:44 No.8652476
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    (If it's alright with you guys. I'll take this roll.)

    "Wait I can just blast the door do-" you begin but the magic energy is already released and you can feel your own magic energy penetrate your inner circuits. Slowly moving throughout them, they begin to mess with your inner psyche, throwing a cloud over your subconscious mind.

    You are Kentaro Tohsaka now. You were just going to get Tobe's summoning charm from your vault. But as you descended the stairs you found to your shock that the alarm to your safe has gone off!

    Could another master be trying to steal one of your artefact's as a summoning charm! Despite your decrepit body you manage to make your way downstairs fast enough to see...

    Your daughter at the bottom. Standing perfectly still, her eyes completely blank and her expression emotionless.

    "Janya? What are you doing down here!?" you ask indignantly. Could she have been trying to break into your vault?

    She doesn't respond... that's odd.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:45 No.8652491
    rolled 16 = 16

    No way. Who's going to kill Vlad if not brave hero Roland with his awesome holy sword?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:45 No.8652497

    Why not both? Hopefully, it'll make it look like someone in the Holy Grail War is targeting us, our father's artefact supply or possibly even threatening him. That way, he might give us what we want so we can "protect ourselves".
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:46 No.8652510
    rolled 25 = 25

    Restrain her.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:48 No.8652546
    Use our insight as an old paranoid bastard to get to the bottom of this.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:50 No.8652579
    rolled 15 = 15

    give the bitch my pimp hand
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:52 No.8652614
    Cast a spell on the country you run. And then take a bow.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)19:52 No.8652617

    You proceed to grab her hands and hold them behind her. She doesn't resist.

    "Janya. What were you doing down here?" you demand.

    "I have come to steal the sword of Roland the Paladin," she says without emotion.

    "What? Why!?" you shout.

    "So that I may participate in the holy grail war," she intones.

    "..." you shake your head. This sounds just like something she would do. Once more it looks like she was hoping to fool you by casting mind altering magic on herself.

    She may be good at mental-override charms but casting them on yourself is just foolish!
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:54 No.8652652
    Haha, this.

    ((Also, OP: Should you go with Roland, look up Saver. It was the initial concept for Saber and is pretty much a male version of her.))
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:55 No.8652670
    Use magic to snap her out of it and then punish her appropriately, but fairly, as befitting as your status of the Tohsaka household.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:55 No.8652682
    Contemplate leaving her as is to see how long her Enchantment lasts.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:56 No.8652699
    ...Wait, she did this before?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)19:57 No.8652704
    Break the spell. Then take her upstairs for some Tohsaka-style punishment.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)20:01 No.8652770

    Sadly you cannot snap her out of it yet. The charms and abilities required would be too complex right now and you could wind up erasing or possibly messing with your daughter's mental circuits worse than she already has.

    You will properly punish her for this. But not right now. For now, you must simply get Tobe his summoning charm.

    You proceed to open the door to your vault and command your daughter to follow you. She does so obediently, her arms still behind her back as you left them.

    The two of you walk inside, the various cultural artefact's you've collected lay out all around you. Eventually you pass the Sword of Roland and find the item you were looking for in question. A stone from the castle of Denmark. Hopefully this will be what Tobe needs in order to summon Ogliaf...

    Your bluff seems to have worked. Your father knew that you were good with mental override charms and commands. In a way, it was a good thing the spell failed enough for you to resist it's hold on your mind at any point you could desire.

    Your father has his back turned now and the sword of Roland is easily within your grasp. What do you do?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:01 No.8652773
    Waiting for OP....
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:03 No.8652808
    Blast the stone
    grab sword
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)20:04 No.8652819

    (I'm just taking a wild guess and saying she's good with mental type magics. Magics that are good at controlling thoughts, erasing or altering memories or possibly just confusing people for a moment)
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:04 No.8652820
    ...I doubt we can just run and grab it, even if we somehow hide it under our clothes, he's going to walk past it again...
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:05 No.8652831
    You fool! You'll create a time paradox!
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:06 No.8652858
    rolled 2 = 2


    Wait as he's about to get out and lag behind him, using the moment to grab the sword.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)20:06 No.8652860

    (Just a note, the sword like many of the other artefact's is inside a wood crate that's been carefully labeled as such for proper storage. This may be a basement but no way he's gonna expose it to the air or possible light)
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:07 No.8652879
    Assuming thats actually the stone Tobe used to summon Rider. This could justify the botched summoning we had last time. I mean outside interference could explain that shit....
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:08 No.8652894

    I like the idea of being a mind hacker. Especially if we can reprogram ourself.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:08 No.8652895
    rolled 1 = 1

    Caaaaaaaarefully open the box and steal the sword.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:09 No.8652908
    ...How good are we with illusions? Like can we make an illusion of the crate so that when we take the sword, it will look like it's still there?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:09 No.8652910
    rolled 6 = 6

    oh lawdy.

    Let's try that again.
    >> Goddamn Sandwitches 03/18/10(Thu)20:09 No.8652915
    Calling it now: Janya ends up fucking up and the stone gets replaces with a stone from her room or something. The Stone Tobe ends up using ends up summoning the Rider who is a future version of Janya.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:09 No.8652917
    Why the hell does Janya fail so much?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:11 No.8652940
    Wait, we're supposed to roll high?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:11 No.8652952
    ...Volg hasn't had the best luck either, I mean we haven't been hit by a truck yet.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:13 No.8652967
    In most cases, the higher the better. If we roll a one, its an auto fail, usually in hilarious ways. Unless the OP is operating on some system I'm not familiar with.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:17 No.8653039
    Use magic to blast crate open. Grab sword and run.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:20 No.8653081
    rolled 1 = 1

    "Then I won't die. I'll win. I'll prove I'm strong enough to go without you coddling me."
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:20 No.8653091
    >hurr to the durr
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:20 No.8653092
    Then he should compete as well. With him, Tobe, and us all summoning servants and working together, how could we possibly fail to win the grail war?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:23 No.8653136
    "I am the Supervisor of the Holy Grail War, Kirei Kotomine."

    THAT is how we can fail to win.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)20:25 No.8653154

    "Father... you could compete," you explain and he slams his hands on his desk.

    "That's even more foolish! I-" he stops as he starts to cough uncontrollably. You forget often how old your father is and how unkind age has been to him. It'd be foolish of you to ask him to compete in the war. He's already done so once, and in his condition he'd be taken out in a matter of days.

    Maybe it'd be best to simply comfort him for now?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:26 No.8653178
    Give him a hug and promise that you won't put yourself in any unnecessary danger. It's not a lie, after all you're Servant will be the one fighting, not you.

    That or ask him what it is about the Holy Grail War that frightens him so much.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:29 No.8653208
    Would he? He could summon an Archer, which has an independent action ability, and then act as though he's not a master at all except for supplying its mana. Walking around and fighting personally isn't necessary, particularly with two other magi on his side...

    ...but if he's not willing to fight for the family, fine. Try to make him feel better, and act the good daughter until he goes to sleep and we can slip away to summon Roland.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:30 No.8653214

    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:32 No.8653258
    Propose that Tobe and Janya work together as a two-master team. If this Emiya character has the ability to pull a Servant at all, then a more experienced magus such as ourselves can serve as a balancing agent for his inexperience.

    Two Servants working together from the get-go is almost certain to achieve victory.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:33 No.8653270
    Let's find someone called Patsy and make her seem like the one who summoned Roland!
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:34 No.8653283
    Finally, Odysseus in the house!
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)20:34 No.8653293

    You proceed to hug him.

    "Don't worry father. I promise I won't put myself in any unnecessary danger."

    "Janya my daughter... thank you," he sighs as he slowly hugs you back.

    A few minuets later you're back in your room. The sword of Roland in your hand... dammit this is not good. It's only a matter of time till he finds out it's gone. And if you summon your servant here you'll just be holding up a big flashing sign saying "LOOK AT ME! I'M SUMMONING A SERVANT!" no doubt you could summon him here without your father noticing. But staying here? That's another story entirely.

    What to do, what to do...
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:35 No.8653303
    If the old man doesn't want to risk his daughter, why don't we sneak a magic tome to a ordinary human we can easily manipulate and get him to summon a servant for us?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:38 No.8653339
    No, that's silly.

    Let's find some secret place to summon it.

    Why not Tobe's house? I'm sure you have a key or know a way in.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:39 No.8653351
    because our lackey of choice is currently preparing to summon a servant

    head up into the mountains and summon there
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:40 No.8653366
    Do we go to school? Why don't we go there to make that our base of operations? Shinji had the right idea, besides being an asshole. Lots of people, no way to tell who the Master is.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:41 No.8653379
    Our father has made it clear that he cares deeply about our welfare. Once we've conducted the summoning ritual, we'll be stuck as a Master for better or worse; if he really cares about us he'll either summon up a Servant himself to help out, or offer us all the backup he can- the only safety will come through victory at that point, after all. We therefore might be able to get away with staying here after summoning our Servant.

    Of course, we'd have to argue our case effectively... and put up with his disapproval.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:41 No.8653383
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)20:42 No.8653389

    >Why not Tobe's house? I'm sure you have a key or know a way in.

    Tobe came from a city outside Skyline.

    But then, using an ordinary house as a base wouldn't be SO bad. There are plenty of large western and eastern styled houses in the city... but still. You couldn't move furniture into one. Nor could you buy one without your father noticing.

    Maybe you could move into one already occupied but... how do you convince people you've never met to let you stay there so that you can participate in a war between magical entities from beyond time!?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:42 No.8653395
    We have Roland's sword.

    If we summon Roland, won't he have his sword?

    Can Roland Dual Wield with our copy?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:43 No.8653407
    OP said that our copy was broken.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)20:43 No.8653409

    School's also a plan!

    But you'd need a proper room to work out of.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:43 No.8653421
    No, he's magically empower this one and weild it. See: Avalon.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:44 No.8653423
    This gives me a plan made of equal parts cruelty, brilliance and madness.

    We get some ordinary person to summon a servant... but before that, we help them with the ritual, and we have them drink a slow poison as something "necessary", without telling them what it is. Then they die shortly after summoning their servant- a master/servant pair down with almost no work on our part.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:44 No.8653426
    The roof.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:44 No.8653431

    >Maybe you could move into one already occupied but... how do you convince people you've never met to let you stay there so that you can participate in a war between magical entities from beyond time!?

    Reprogramming brains might help.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:45 No.8653433
    rolled 8 = 8


    Act like a common school girl and say that your house is passing through remodeling.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:45 No.8653434
    Mental magics are traditional, and we're pretty good with them. Convince the current inhabitants that we're a relation or desired guest.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:45 No.8653440
    Roof could work. Or we could use the gym. More space, less chance of people noticing our summoning since its not out in the open. Also, large enough for any fights to take place in.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 03/18/10(Thu)20:48 No.8653469

    I'm going to wade in here and second the school.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:48 No.8653480
    because it isn't full powaa
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:49 No.8653493
    better idea

    mind control magic+school or other crowded building
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 03/18/10(Thu)20:50 No.8653503

    Copying a Noble Phantasm level artifact in anything approaching decent quality is really outside the realm of most people, even experienced mages anyhow.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:50 No.8653504
    But walking into a random home and declaring yuorself their cousin from out of town, where's the food is so full of sit-com potential!
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:50 No.8653505
    Point. Could we set up an aura that convinces everyone we're a teacher or something? Could work out well.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 03/18/10(Thu)20:52 No.8653520

    It'd be easier to set up an aura that simply prevents people from entering certain locations, like the roof or some disused storage room.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:55 No.8653556

    Sakamoto's House. NOW.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)20:55 No.8653561


    You'll just... "convince" the inhabitance of another household that you're a well-meaning guest!

    Now which household to go for... that's the question.

    There's a few you're aware of but haven't bothered to look up much.

    One belongs to that weird girl Chantal. She's kinda stupid but she lives alone with her mother.

    Another one is Yuen-Ai's house. She's a girl from China who lives with her VERY traditional parents in a large Asian styled house.

    Lemme think... there's also Mr and Mrs Midel's house. They're a nice couple who recently moved to Skyline. They live in a mid-sized western house that's just a few blocks away from the school.


    Seems a bit too complex for you. Brainwashing everyone overnight into thinking you're a teacher would just raise too many questions and might alert another master to your activities.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)20:56 No.8653579

    (I fucked that up to be honest. I realized too late that Sakamoto is a Japanese name while I said she was from China. My bad :P)
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:57 No.8653593
    For all you people suggesting underhanded tactics... Remember that Roland was a paragon of virtue. Knowing we disobeyed our father and stole the sword is bad enough... We don't want to put unnecessary strain on our relationship with our servant.
    >> Goddamn Sandwitches 03/18/10(Thu)20:58 No.8653605
    Chantal is probably going to be involved in the war herself. The Weird ones always are.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)20:58 No.8653610
    Heh. No problem. I think I got my message through.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:00 No.8653644
    rolled 1, 13, 2 = 16

    to lazy to choose. rollin chantal, yuen-ai, and midels, in order, for my vote
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)21:01 No.8653654

    Seems to be one vote for Chantal and another for Yuen-Ai. Any other takers?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:02 No.8653675

    This just reinforces an idea I had - live on the streets.

    - No-one would think to look for us there.
    - Travel around without being noticed.
    - Roland can help the needy.
    - Others reasons that don't immediately spring to mind.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:04 No.8653702
    No. Also. Vote for China girl.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:05 No.8653726
    ...That could work, and no one would expect the daughter of one of the world's richest mages to be slumming it.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)21:11 No.8653797
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    A couple minuets later you leave your room with most of your valuables tucked away inside your backpack and you make your way down into the residential area of Skyline City.

    You move up to a beautiful Chinese house and knock on the door. It opens to reveal a beautiful woman in a Chinese dress answer the door.

    "Yes? How may I help you?" she asks. It must be Yuen's mother.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:13 No.8653828
    rolled 14 = 14

    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 03/18/10(Thu)21:18 No.8653900
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    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)21:19 No.8653911

    You wave your hands in front of her. The woman just seems to pause for a second as you feel your magical energy start to worm it's way into her mental circuits. OK. You can practically do anything you want with her right now... what's the best way to go about this?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 03/18/10(Thu)21:20 No.8653919
    Welp, I'm off to bed. Try not to do anything stupid, the threads already been archived on sup/tg/ like the rest.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:20 No.8653941
    Who the hell is she?

    Surely someone of absolutely no importance whatsoever.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:21 No.8653944
    Lets ask her where the other people in the house are, and if they are sleeping.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)21:23 No.8653993

    "OK. Who else is here?"

    "Yuen is here as well am I," she intones "Yuen's father is currently out of town on a business trip. Our maid should also be around in the afternoon but she has gone home for the evening."
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:23 No.8654003
    So why didn't we summon this Servant again?
    He was proposed as a Saber class in the initial thread so why not? Is he no good?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:24 No.8654021
    "Is Yuen sleeping? If she is, take me to her and quietly."
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:25 No.8654031
    because fuck year Kamen Rider.

    Also, OP. Which Rider did we summon? Double? V1? Stronger?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:26 No.8654050
    No, Strongest.

    That said, we chose the sword of Roland the Paladin.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:27 No.8654066
    because we got troll'd and got a rider instead.

    also, tohsaka knows that tobe is getting him (she saw her dad get the stone to summon him) so she's racing him to get a saber first.

    actually, this could explain WHY we got Rider...

    anyway, mom directs us to daughter, second mind control spell
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:29 No.8654083
    >No, Strongest.
    Sup, Tendou.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)21:29 No.8654085

    "Yuen is not sleeping," she states. As she says this, the young Chinese girl walks up to her mother and notices you standing there.

    "Oh... hello Janya," she says "what're you doing here?"
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:30 No.8654098
    rolled 14 = 14

    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:32 No.8654132

    oh well, mind control, set up circle, summon, profit
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:34 No.8654160
    Sooner or later that policy will end badly for us.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)21:34 No.8654163

    In a matter of minuets, you're sitting in the living room, kneeling on some traditional mats while Yuen and her mother drink Tea.

    "It is so good that you could visit us cousin!" Yuen says happily "I had no idea that you had come all the way from China to simply see us!"

    You sit at the table with a glass of traditional tea in front of you and a path to the outside right there. They both seem utterly convinced of your mental-reprogramming. Now what do you do next?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:36 No.8654190
    Lets get our fucking summon going.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:38 No.8654222
    set up on basement, roof, or the like, SUMMON

    also in b4 suddenly CHINESE SERVANT
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:43 No.8654291
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    Pic related would be a disaster of a Servant. Maybe.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)21:44 No.8654299
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    You make you way up into the attic and begin your summoning ritual.

    You draw the circle on the ground. Wait till the hour is appropriate... and then you begin.

    Slowly you let out your chanting. The circle glows and emits light as Roland's sword in the center begins to shake. Slowly the hilt of the sword rises. Then the tip, and then all the smaller pieces begin to form together. Each of them attaching to another piece until the full sword appears in front of you. In a blast of radiance you are struck with a huge piercing light. It almost blinds your eyes to watch it... and then. An arm reaches out and grabs the sword's hilt. The light fades and you see a tall man standing there. An aura of complete grace and power fills his body. He opens his eyes and looks to you.

    "Answer me," he speaks in a calm yet confident voice "are you my ma-"
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:45 No.8654301
    Grail can't summon Chinese servants because nasu is racist, deal w/ it
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:46 No.8654315
    "Yes, I am your master. And you are?"
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:46 No.8654325
    Knowing Asia's utter hatred for each other, you've got a 99% chance of being correct.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)21:47 No.8654330
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    At which point the window behind him is blast open by a motorcycle and you see an armored figure go flying past him and nearly hit you... and for just a second you could swear Tobe was sitting behind him.

    You hit the floor and the motorcycle just bounces off before hitting the wall and goes flying through the roof.

    "... what was that?" the servant you have just summoned asks.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:48 No.8654339
    "Are you mate?"
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:48 No.8654349
    No seriously, Nasu himself confirmed this

    But Nasu has horrible taste anyway, so its not suprising
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:49 No.8654362
    dun Dun DUN!
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:50 No.8654371
    suddenly ZOMGWTF.

    Janya: "Yes, now defeat that servant!"
    followed by preparing whatever magic we got
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:51 No.8654386
    Wait. What is this weeaboo shit?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:51 No.8654387
    "Most likely it is one of our opponents."
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:53 No.8654417
    So honestly OP is a generic Rider or did we summon Double?
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)21:53 No.8654424

    "Understood!" and he jumps through the roof after him.


    Saber (Roland the Paladin)
    Holy Weapon - Durendal: A
    This sword cannot be destroyed by any force known to man or god. Blessed with unique holy power, it is especially baneful against any demonic or evil servants.

    Holy Protection - Magic Resistance: Rank A
    Cancels any magic below A-rank. In practice, no magi today are able to hurt Saber.

    Holy Mount - Veillantif: B
    Saber can summon a powerful riding horse to his aid whenever needed.

    Strength: A+
    Endurance: B
    Agility: C
    Magical Energy: A
    Luck: A
    Noble Phantasm: ???

    Riding B
    Ability to ride things. He can ride most vehicles with above average skill, but he cannot ride those of demonic beast or holy beast rank.

    Charisma C
    Natural talent to command an army. It increases the ability of one's army during mass combat. Charisma is a rare talent, and C-rank is enough to lead an army.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:54 No.8654431
    Kamen Rider.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)21:55 No.8654443
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    (The Rider you summoned has no clue who he is. Making him a wild card like Archer.)
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:57 No.8654467
    >This sword cannot be destroyed by any force known to man or god. Blessed with unique holy power, it is especially baneful against any demonic or evil servants.

    This thing could block, say, a cannonball. Anything physical.

    >Holy Protection - Magic Resistance: Rank A
    Cancels any magic below A-rank. In practice, no magi today are able to hurt Saber.

    And that could block anything magical!

    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:57 No.8654472
    okay, let's see what we got
    >Blessed with unique holy power, it is especially baneful against any demonic or evil servants.
    vampire slayer, check
    >C agility
    makes up for the c

    sure is arthur clone. hope his phantasm kicks ass... either way, KILL THE SERVANT, HE'S IN OUR HOUSE, MESSING UP STUFF
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:57 No.8654474
    ...I believe that we just hit the jackpot.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:58 No.8654483
    Technically, it's not -our- house...
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)21:59 No.8654498
    >(The Rider you summoned has no clue who he is. Making him a wild card like Archer.)
    Well then, I hope it's not a weakshit Rider, or one I don't like.

    Crossing fingers for Double.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)21:59 No.8654500

    >sure is arthur clone

    (To be honest FS/N Saber was pretty much a Paladin archetype anyway.)
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:00 No.8654508
    It's our base! It's the principal of the matter you know?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:00 No.8654517
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:00 No.8654521
    This isn't based on F/SN I know, but F/SN's Durandal is partly based on some stories were Durandal was blessed and granted 3 wishes, lots of events unfolded and inthe end only one of the wishes was used.
    Durandal have had many owners however and Roland was not the hero of any of the versions that had granted it wishes.
    But in F/SN 2 of those wishes remain and the mystical rank of this blessing outranks UBW, so if Archer were to use a wish, he wouldn't be able to project another one and regain it, as the miracle is greater than UBW.
    There you have it, some fun extra information regarding the Nasuverse.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:01 No.8654529
    can't be double, he's all black. prob. original rider do not steal or simply Black
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)22:03 No.8654554

    Roland the Paladin watches as the bike drives off down toward... the holy temple?

    Unusual. Such entities were commanded by his master to attack yet they retreat to the church of the Christian god?

    You ponder if you should pursue.
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    >this thread
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:04 No.8654567
    Rider has amnesia, it could just be Joker forgetting that he has access to the elemental memories, since I'm guessing that Shotarou and Phillip wouldn't really count for being Kamen Rider Double in the eyes of the Grail, seeing as Kamen Rider would be an icon in of itself.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:05 No.8654573
    Or I could be thinking too much and we get Black, which is also fine too.
    >> FSN !mF.IqWIAfs 03/18/10(Thu)22:07 No.8654592
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    ((Well guys if that's all for today I think I'll go play some God of War. Next update will probably come next week so till then, see you soon!))
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:07 No.8654599
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    >Rider has amnesia.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:08 No.8654605
    Rider could be like canon True Assassin. A combination of every man who has ever held the title of Kamen Rider.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:08 No.8654606
    No, it would have to be a hero with lots of recognition. And a motorcycle. One of the older Riders, one that's popular.

    Maybe. Since it's a Rider (hurr), it has Riding Rank A or S, so it can ride a motorcycle regardless of identity.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:09 No.8654624
    But I do like the idea of it being ALL RIDERS versus Dai-Heroes.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:12 No.8654652
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    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:14 No.8654674
    >vampire slayer
    Perhaps but with this guy as the Saber class Sigurd is out of the game, and was supposedly the strongest servant, he could have been more useful.
    But on the other hand, with this we won't have him as an enemy either.

    Remaining classes
    Archer, Caster, Assassin, Berserker
    He would only qualify as Berserker, but he would suck as Berserker compared to Saber at least, but that is one enemy out.

    On the other hand, with the status increase boost that come with the class he might be a dangerous opponent still even so.
    I just figured that being one of the more knowledgeable servants summoning him as Berserker would be a waste, but seing as how his physical stats are top as well he could be a fearsome opponent as berserker, especially considering his immortality.
    But with Mad Enhancement he would lose his ability to gather intel at which he would supposedly be really great at.
    But yeah in the end I doubt that any master would be able to control such a strong servant as Berserker for very long and especially if theyhave to use their own familliars to gather intel as they feed on their master's mana.
    So yes, the most dangerous opponent is out, and with a Servant that is effective against most dangerous nr.2 I would supose that she could get by until the end with this Roland.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:18 No.8654708
    So is there anyone who isn't wasted by being assigned to Berserker?
    I mean I'm pretty sure even the Norse heroes like Beowulf relied on cleverness.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:19 No.8654727
    You can summon Sigurd as Berserker and NOT trigger Mad Enhancement. He lacks the Magic Resistance he'd get from being a Saber, but he's otherwise nigh identical to his Saber version.

    And when shit reallly does go down? MAD ENHANCEMENT.

    Also, Kentaro Tohsaka needs to summon an Archer for Independant Action nonsense.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:20 No.8654739
    well, there's people who are famous FOR being crazy batshit in war
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:21 No.8654748
    Hopefully we won't have to deal with the 'True Assassin' nonsense... I'd like to have that option open.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:22 No.8654761
    Jack the ripper
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:23 No.8654765
    Like Samson? I mean the whole killing a thousand men just to make a lame pun... That's messed up.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:25 No.8654780
    samson would be god tier berserker. esp. since all you need for him is a jaw.... assuming you don't accidentally get some random native american hero or some shit like that
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:27 No.8654813

    Strength: A
    Endurance: A++
    Agility: A+
    Magical Energy: A
    Luck: C
    Noble Phantasm: A+

    Dragon Blood - Immortality: A+
    Immune against attacks ranked A+ or lower everywhere except his left shoulder.

    I see no problem with this, other than perhaps breaking the system.
    I guess game breaking servants are rather costly, it could be funny to see how one would handle an invincible mad servant.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:28 No.8654847
    But his weak point is his fucking HAIR.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:29 No.8654851
    So thus far we have Dracula, Roland the Paladin, and Kamen fucking Rider as servants. We need to keep the epic up.
    I've heard Odysseus as Archer, and Samson as Berserker, and we know that some viking that's probably Beowulf has already been chosen.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:29 No.8654858
    Helmet bro
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:32 No.8654896
    The mad enhancement is a requirement for the Berserker class.
    It's like how the Knight classes come with magic resistance, Archer with independent action, Assassin with precence concealment and Rider with riding.
    You can't chose not to trigger mad enhancement, mad enhancement is what you have to tamper int the ritual in order to get them to be Berserker, and it is also the reason for why no master was able to control them until Iliya did it by being custom made with the pinnacle of homunculi technology.
    >> NuBlackAnon !!z6ldXGL61Wm 03/18/10(Thu)22:33 No.8654913
    Oh god
    which rider is it? W?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:35 No.8654942
    unknown. I hope it's faiz
    >> Goddamn Sandwitches 03/18/10(Thu)22:36 No.8654953
    We aren't sure yet.

    Some Anon's are thinking he is every rider at once.

    I think He is Decade. Like the Cannon Decade. I think he fucked up while jumping between worlds and got sucked into the ritual. Wither that or the Rider is future Janya.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:38 No.8654991
    ...Fate no Sekai.
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:41 No.8655024
    What exactly determines if a heroic spirit is a good fit for the Caster class? Because famous mages aren't as common as you would think...
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:43 No.8655060
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    Here's your Berserker
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:54 No.8655208
    could have magic or magic-like abilities
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)23:03 No.8655338
    where did OP go?
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)23:04 No.8655350
    He left like 20 minutes ago... The quest has ended for today
    >> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)23:14 No.8655492
    >> Anonymous 03/19/10(Fri)01:29 No.8657422
    *Scherezade chimes in* Did someone say they need a Caster?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 03/19/10(Fri)05:15 No.8660083
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    Okay, I'm back from my long sleep to catch up.

    >*Scherezade chimes in* Did someone say they need a Caster?

    Speaking of a 1001 Nights, I would remind everyone that heroic animals are also eligable in the grail as well. I mentioned it at the start, but this makes things like Fenris, Sleipnir, the Nemean Lion, the Hydra etc all eligable. From 1001 nights there was a Lion who could talk to animal and man, was regarded as the mighty king of beasts, but his one weakness was a cage of wood.

    Also, there's Sinbad, Alladin, Ali Baba, although none of them would be THAT powerful a servant, Alladins Noble Phantasm would be A++ tier though as he summons forth a horde of Djinni.

    But if you want to know the identity of the No.1 person we DONT want to see get summoned as Archer, look no further than Rama from the Ramayana.
    This guy is a mortal (and thus eligable) avatar of Vishnu, the Hindu God of FUCKING PERFECTION. He was also infamous for using Vishnu's super divine bow.

    On the subject of caster, we KNOW that Rasputins cock is in the Museum, but there's always the old standby's of Faust, Merlin or Moses.

    Then there's berzerker, the wildcard. Who knows what thats going to turn up.

    On the subject of Kamen Rider, our servant has the ability to turn anything into a bike right? I'm pretty sure that the only riders who could transform things like that was Agito and Chalice from blade. As I think the OP would have dropped something that would have enabled us to recognise if it had a FUCKING HEART SHAPED HELMET then my money's on Agito.

    Sorry to bump it after it died, I just felt like throwing in my opinion at the end.
    >> Anonymous 03/19/10(Fri)05:19 No.8660110
    >I would remind everyone that heroic animals are also eligable in the grail as well

    >> Anonymous 03/19/10(Fri)05:31 No.8660197
    Were the criteria for servants ever explained beyond being a hero/villain?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 03/19/10(Fri)05:56 No.8660399

    No heroes younger than 100 years, that's been clarified in the first chapter of Fate/Stay Zero.
    Beyond that, I think you can summon pretty much anyone from history. Hence the Angry Manjuu incident.
    >> Anonymous 03/19/10(Fri)05:57 No.8660408

    What about archer then?
    >> Anonymous 03/19/10(Fri)05:59 No.8660430
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    Type : Archer
    Noble Fatasm : Rocks fall, everyone dies, Lassie runs to its owner and barks happily.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 03/19/10(Fri)06:02 No.8660456
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    Archer is a living contradiction to a lot of the rules. I think the fact that he was a Counter Guardian may have had something to do with it as well.
    Also, it's more than likely that Archer was from at least 100 years in the future as well. So you've still got that 100 years barrier. Possibly.

    Look "Archer did it" is not an excuse for anything.

    I also get the feeling that the Grail didn't really want to give her Archer, but she borked the spell timings so badly it had to.
    >> Anonymous 03/19/10(Fri)06:03 No.8660462
    Lots of anime in this thread

    >> Anonymous 03/19/10(Fri)06:04 No.8660469

    So we can get practically everybody as long as we complain hard enough? Great!
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy 03/19/10(Fri)06:14 No.8660547

    I have no idea truthfully how she managed to summon Archer.
    Even Archer seemed a little put out that someone had managed to do so.
    I'm aware that she had the required catalyst, but even so it SHOULDN'T have resulted in summoning anything. Gah, that side of things is really a mess.
    >> Anonymous 03/19/10(Fri)11:50 No.8663267
    I was asleep but if you want it clarified I can give you the information.
    Rin summoning Archer was a bit reversed when it came to the mechanics.
    It was less so that she had the catalyst to summon Archer, it was more so that Archer had the catalyst to be summoned by her.
    This basically means that while the pendant was a necessary catalyst, no one else except her would have been able to use it to summon Archer, he was only able to be summoned because Rin with the pendant was the connection to him.

    It is all reversed really, if we take Gilgamesh's summon for an examle.
    Tokiomi used the snake skin as a catalyst with the connection to Gilgamesh and the part the snake played in his life.
    When it came to Archer's summon however it was more like this.
    Archer in the future had Rin's pendant with a connection to her and how she saved his life, and then it was used by her as a catalyst for a summon in the past.

    So one can't simply go and find a catalyst that would be associated with a hero in the future, that isn't enough and that isn't really how it works either.
    >> Anonymous 03/19/10(Fri)11:52 No.8663287
    That was very painful to read. Get some more sleep, please.
    >> Anonymous 03/19/10(Fri)13:08 No.8664060
    So we can't summon futuristic sci-fi heroes from the future, like Gundam pilots for an example?
    Too bad, but yeah, the Rider spot is already taken so I guess it doesn't matter.

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