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    139 KB Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:07 No.8606900  
    OP again, still writing out the mission for you guys. I copied down my plane's stats though, so I could show you.
    Name: IAI F-4/2000
    Min Speed: 5
    Max Speed: 25
    Power Class: High Power
    Accel 1 and 2: +3 / +2
    Decel: -4
    Maneuver Class: Medium
    Gun: 7d6
    Gun Ammo: 7
    Bomb Computer Rating: +4
    Damage Points: 8
    Chaff: 8
    Flares: 8
    ECM: -
    Radar: 3+L
    Size: +0
    Spot: +1
    Load points: 32
    Year Introduced: 1989
    Typical Loadout: 4xPython, 4 AIM-7

    If you have questions about it I'll try to explain. I asked Steve about his system and he said he took some of it from "Birds of Prey" but simplified it.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:10 No.8606955
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    I'll be orbiting OP, waiting for you to call in with the report.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:14 No.8607006
    Ah some actual meat! If you could go through each stat and explain a tiny bit or maybe even give variances for each stat? That'd be nice.

    Birds of Prey? Not familiar with it.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:17 No.8607045
    Oh god its an Ad Astra game...shit's fuckin complicated. If he managed to simplify it to the point where rounds don't take 30 minutes minimum I must have it.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:17 No.8607051
    Not familiar with it, but here's a link:

    So it is a true game after all, for those of you calling troll in the other threads.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:22 No.8607119
    The system is amazingly complex. They went to great lengths to get a true three dimensional game and they paid for it in per round time.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:24 No.8607141
    oh and its fuckin expensive to boot.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:25 No.8607163
    OP again, yeah, Steve mentioned that. He loves the game, but a 2 on 2 takes an afternoon. He liked some of the other ideas, and used the game as inspiration. He didn't like the way it took forever, and thought the 3d combat, while cool, was just too complex.
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:27 No.8607192
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    Copy that - Bingo fuel - Request IFR
    Set heading 030 - Rising to 12000 - Eyes on tanker
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:28 No.8607197
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    btw if anyone objects to me posting these ill stop
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:28 No.8607201
    Oh shit yes, jet pron!
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:28 No.8607206
    Awesome OP. I'd love to see what he changed. Of course i'd have to know the rules for the base game first though and since i'm not finding an /rs/ hits for anything but comics I doubt i ever will.

    Please continue though. Tell us about how the mission went. And keep pestering your GM for all the rules he can manage.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:29 No.8607215
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:30 No.8607229
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    I want to hug you for introducing me to this.

    and then sacrifice you to the dice gods so I can have two 2v2's in one afternoon.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:30 No.8607238
    Hey OP, did your group name their merc group/aircraft? Callsigns?
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    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)00:31 No.8607262
    Don't stop.
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:32 No.8607273
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    i love hearing that
    unf unf
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:32 No.8607274
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:32 No.8607276
    i'm only slightly versed in the basic system due to the fact that they use a variant for the Honor Harrington Tactical Simulator that they put out.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:32 No.8607282
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:32 No.8607284
    This Steve fellow sounds like an absolute genius of a GM. The kind who could teach GMing seminars.

    OP, I'm not trying to pry into his personal life but it'd be cool if you let us know if he's prior/current military. Speaking as an enlisted guy myself.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:32 No.8607286
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    Birds of Prey is a great system, but it does take forever to play.
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:36 No.8607347
    Based on what OP has told us already, I'm convinced this guy is in the top 99th percentile. His 'briefings' prior to a session are more than most GMs do. He's big on teaching, and he seems to be remarkably fair in that he doesn't drop surprises that are stupid/vindictive.


    Steve, I will have your babies.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:37 No.8607349
    This would be a fantastic game for a brilliant gamer (or several as a team) to face off against a current/ex fighter pilot with.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:37 No.8607354
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:38 No.8607362
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    Hey guys can I play too?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:38 No.8607365
    This. This is a BASIC top page sheet for one aircraft...and its friggin complicated.
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:38 No.8607375
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    You are always welcome eurofriend
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:38 No.8607376

    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)00:39 No.8607383
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    >reclined seat
    Oh... dear god I am so unsure what to think now.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:39 No.8607384
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:40 No.8607399
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    Fuck my internet :(
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:40 No.8607401
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    Looks like ive hit my F-14 collection

    prepare your penises gentlemen
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:41 No.8607409
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:41 No.8607414
    Haven't had 100 GMs to compare with, but he's at least top 95%.

    Not afraid to homebrew; curveballs without being a cheapskate; hints of magnificent bastardry; knows his sources; cool as hell.

    99 percentile is still a pretty safe bet.
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:42 No.8607433
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    Mother of Christ. Ad Astra makes amazing games IF you can tolerate math and charts.

    Attack Vector tactical is there 'easy' game.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:42 No.8607434
    Come on OP don't keep us waiting...how'd the game go?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:42 No.8607437
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:44 No.8607456
    Amazing is right but i'm not math wiz. I have a hard enough time just adding up 10+ dice in a decent amount of time. Higher lvl DnD math is my limit. This may be beyond me.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:44 No.8607457
    How can a movie that shitty have planes that good looking?
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:45 No.8607470

    I wanted to buy this game just because it's a reasonable model of space combat. For various reasons I can't right now, but it's on my list for the future.

    Is there by any means a download? I want to mod it up for a space combat game to run for my group. Obviously, would post ruleset (though I have a hunch Steve's mods to BoP would be more popular, despite me being no slouch of a GM).
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:45 No.8607472
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:45 No.8607475
    This game needs a community. And a dedicated PC die roller.

    Or make a megamek of it.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:46 No.8607492
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    Thank you whoever else is posting awesome pics, Im saving all of them
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:46 No.8607496
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:47 No.8607497
    OP here. Playtest footage inbound.

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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:47 No.8607506
    Well shit, and I thought Wild Blue was complex. Compared to this, it's downright simple.

    More people should check out Wild Blue, btw. Cool little air/ground merc game.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:47 No.8607510
    Its one of those niche games that are narrow enough that only true enthusiasts have heard of it and are willing to spend the time, money, and brain power to get it, learn it, and enjoy it.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:48 No.8607512
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    Posting from my pitch black room with aviators on

    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:48 No.8607515
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    It's mutual :P
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:49 No.8607532

    yeah Wild Blue looked fun. MAC/Wild Blue/BoP as far as complexity goes.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:49 No.8607537
    Just wondering, because I heart bombers, is there any stats for things like the old B52 Superfortress?
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:50 No.8607546
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:50 No.8607550

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    and im spent
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:51 No.8607559
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    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)00:52 No.8607571
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    Fuck, this thread's reaching critical awesome.

    Time to seed a few of my own
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:52 No.8607575
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:52 No.8607576

    Mobile combat base FTW!
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:52 No.8607578
    /tg/ is going to fill up this thread before the poor OP even has a chance to post.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:52 No.8607579
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    F-35? Psh. I was taking off straight-up long before you, pal.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:53 No.8607590
    Oh, Widow Maker, how's it going?

    Just how many of your pilots are dead, again?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:53 No.8607591
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    Past and Present
    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)00:53 No.8607598
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    You guys mind a few fictionals along with your real planes?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:54 No.8607609
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    A few of my own then.
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:55 No.8607623
    You are not are op, but I love that link anyways.
    >> Leman Russ 03/16/10(Tue)00:55 No.8607624


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    Think thats more or less it. Time to start trawling through my unsorted folder...
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:56 No.8607629
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    Hell yeah baby.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:56 No.8607634
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    Hey there good lookin.
    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)00:56 No.8607639
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    Is this bad?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:56 No.8607640

    Only if you dont mind the PAK-FA vs F-22 shitstorm I accidentally started in the last thread. Then again, that was the most civil internet argument ive ever been a part of.

    I love you /tg/
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:57 No.8607643
    That's a real plane.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:57 No.8607651
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    Y halo
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:58 No.8607662
    >was the most civil internet argument ive ever been a part of
    Make up your mind already!
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)00:58 No.8607666
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    And for every beauty there has to be a beast
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    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)00:59 No.8607678
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    Guess I should look at what I'm saving more often.

    Goddammit /k/.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:00 No.8607686
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    'Sup, gents?
    >> WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot !!WgWcz5V3TdQ 03/16/10(Tue)01:00 No.8607688
    Does anybody have links to the old threads? I think I missed a couple.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:00 No.8607692
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    F-22K, featuring the latest in Klingon Cloaking Technology.
    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)01:01 No.8607703
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    I know.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:01 No.8607706


    the most recent thread, links to the archive are in one of the first posts.

    Also this thread should be on suptg, but I dont know how to put it there
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    Have some Dragoons.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:03 No.8607727
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    Not much, bro. Sup with you?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:03 No.8607728
    OP again.
    Ok, so here's how it started. Before we started, Steve told us all what the range to the target was. I suggested buddy tanking (Thanks Guys!) and he told us this was probably the smartest idea. We agreed to minimize the use of the tanker, the Flanker took a belly tank, so wouldn't require any tanking for the entire mission. My F-4 took two Ferry tanks two rocket pods, 4 AIM-9s, and four GBU-12s, the F-111 took four tanks, with the buddy system, as well as two GBU-15s and a bunch of GBU-12s. The other F-4 took the same loadout as me. The mirage had two BLG-66EC cluster bombs, and four GBU-12s, 2x Aden gun pods but no tanks. I also bought an upgraded IR detector, so with luck I wouldn't get toasted by a stupid heat seeker.

    We decided against any satellite intelligence, or other sources. Our plan was to stay high, out of the way of ground fire, and then come in at ridiculous speed when called by the FFL. At my suggestion we asked and were told that the FFL would communicate with us via secure UHF, and would enter the area when required. The plan was that the flanker would investigate air threats, while one of the F-4s did full power long range scans in a racetrack, looking for enemies, and directing the flanker nose cold to them. Ground attack would be the mirage first, the F-4s if needed, and the F-111 if absolutely necessary. The F-111 was to stay out of combat, because it was the lifeline back to the base.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:03 No.8607734
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    OP really might need to start a new thread, we are going to hit the image limit before he posts
    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)01:04 No.8607751
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    y hullo.
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    I resent that. There is only one Widowmaker!
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:06 No.8607767

    Excellent OP, good use of /tg/ intel on those buddy tanks.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:06 No.8607769
    anybody got links to the od threads there aren't any posted in this one
    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)01:06 No.8607779
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:07 No.8607784
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    Mobius One, Fox 2.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:07 No.8607788
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    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)01:08 No.8607800
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    Not sure where I got this, or what it's of...
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:08 No.8607803

    Threads so far:


    As a naming convention, this thread, if archived, should be called "/tg/ talks planes VI"
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:08 No.8607806
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    Hey guys. I heard you might need some close air support.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:09 No.8607815
    That's an early depiction of the PAK FA
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:09 No.8607817
    I hate to say this, but no more pictures until OP gets the story up there. I don't want this thread saged before I find out what happened.

    F5 key on War Emergency Power!
    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)01:10 No.8607823
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:11 No.8607840
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    ur doin it rong
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:11 No.8607841
    Yeah I read that, the Russian guy seemed to know his shit. Unlike youtube comment arguments on military equipment.
    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)01:11 No.8607848
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    Seemed so. Thanks for clarifying. Now to figure out where I put that picture again to jot this info down.

    Sorry for PAK FAs. That's what's turning up first.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:13 No.8607870
    Highway to the Danger ZOne is cool.

    But Top Gun will always be defined by this for me:

    You can't beat that.
    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)01:15 No.8607909
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    awh man~
    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)01:17 No.8607946
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    But I found some kooky shit...
    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)01:18 No.8607958
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:19 No.8607977

    That is gayer than a bunch of shirtless oiled guys playing volleyball.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:20 No.8607986
    Ok enough of the images guys. I want to see more from OP.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:20 No.8607988
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:20 No.8608001
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    Looks like something out of Metal Slug...
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:21 No.8608011

    Ah yes the parasite fighter. So much fail in so small a machine.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:23 No.8608034
    >OP starts a thread
    >150 replies of breathless anticipation

    How does it feel to be the most popular guy on /tg/?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:23 No.8608043
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    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)01:24 No.8608067
    Yo, guyse posting planeporn. Post here.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:24 No.8608069
    I must admit he's started something unlike anything i've ever seen on /tg/ before. I just wish there were more like you and your GM Steve.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:24 No.8608070
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:27 No.8608111

    That. That looks like a fuckin P51 on crack!
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:30 No.8608170
    OP again
    We took off uneventfully, no one used burner, and with some of us being pretty heavy, we had to make a few skill rolls to make sure we didn't fly into some low level trees. Luckily we all made it out ok, and settled into a high altitude cruise. The Mirage tanked once, and the Phantoms were fine all the way to the target. We went in nose cold except for a single F-4, which detected nothing other than standard airliner traffic. We had one close call initially, an the Flanker peeled off to investigate, about 20 miles out he called tally ho and told us we'd panicked over a South African A340. We talked and said that we wouldn't investigate radar returns unless they were above a certain speed and/or on an intercept course. With that in mind, we had no problems. When we got there, we hit a small snag. We hadn't asked for a weather briefing, and it was cloudy. Two cloudy in fact to use our original high altitude bombing plan. However, we talked to Steve, and suggested that since the GBU-15s were tv guided, and we knew where the bridges were.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:30 No.8608174


    Holy fuck I want one!
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:31 No.8608187
    OP again

    The F-111 flew a pattern, and released the bombs in the 'basket' as Steve put it, and then became very focused on making sure the things nailed the targets. The clouds were at 3000' AGL and that meant the Aardvark operator would have very little time to make course corrections when they went through the cloud ceiling. Our backup plan had the mirage circle low, and prepare to make a run at the bridges should the Aarvark miss. We were really tense, because it would really suck to miss now, we'd be short on ammo for the assault portion, and we weren't sure if 500lbs could take out a bridge. Turned out we were worried over nothing. The bridges were wood and metal rickety things. The first GBU-15 punched right through the first bridge, detonating just underneath it. The second GBU-15 missed by about 28 ft, and hit the river. The good thing though, is that missing by a few feet with a 2000lb bomb doesn't make much of a difference. The Mirage confirmed this as it completed its pass, both bridges were now mostly smoldering toothpicks, with pieces of them still raining down from the sky.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:31 No.8608195

    ... go on
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:32 No.8608215

    Clouds. Fuck. Hell in a hand basket right there if its anywhere near total coverage. If its low its a double fuck.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:34 No.8608242
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    Fucking pilots. And Fuck us for not thinking about clouds.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:36 No.8608270
    It's Fairey Gannet
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:41 No.8608386
    OP again
    Now, shit started to hit the fan. We called the FFL, who said they were inbound, and gave us some coordinates. Since I was in the radiating Phantom, I flew with the Flanker towards the Antonov. The flanker hugged close, we were hoping to make the Phantoms radar return block out the Flanker's. We asked steve, and he said this was pretty smart, and told us that the Phantom RCS is almost 8x bigger than a Flankers. Anyway, we found the AN-12 on Radar below the cloud cover but the weird thing was it was orbiting. We told them again the bridges were down, and they acknowledged, but kept orbiting. At this point, we thought things were going well, until the Mirage pilot decided to dive down for another look. He flew another pass, and called up to us saying there were more than two dozen boats crossing the river with men aboard, “Like some sort of ghetto thrid world D-Day”, and there were small explosions from the village (we found out later this was mortar strikes). He was about to strafe the boats when the other Phantom pilot shouted about the ROE and he held off, and climbed out.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:43 No.8608422
    >Now, shit started to hit the fan.

    I KNEW this GM was good at what he does.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:44 No.8608438
    Oh god that magnificent bastard. F5ing like crazy.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:46 No.8608466
    Ah, c'mon. A few cannon salvos at the river from up high and no one would have been the wiser.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:47 No.8608494
    >>the ROE
    My response:
    "The rules of engagement... have changed." *strafestrafestrafe*

    >>We asked steve, and he said this was pretty smart, and told us that the Phantom RCS is almost 8x bigger than a Flankers.
    High five from a fellow GM for good GMing. Also for magnificent bastardry and knowing how to throw wrenches.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:51 No.8608545
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:52 No.8608561
    Op again
    We relayed this new info to the FFL, and they asked us to take another look, but not to fire unless fired at. The F-4 decided to take a look, and began a descent. Now we had plotted the area beforehand and were flying a safe track relative to elevation, that gave us the shortest route but with the most visibility to the target area. We all thought that this was a really smart idea. The bad thing is that we forgot we'd already flown the path twice with the Mirage, and didn't realize how dangerous this is. The F-4 got down below the clouds and began making his run. Then, without much warning, his own IR detector went nuts, and the treetops below him exploded and a flurry of SAMs blasted out of the undergrowth on trails of acrid smoke like Medusa having a bad hair day. There were also tracer rounds blasting aruond everywhere, as a few Bofors opened up on the flight path. The pilot threw the f-4 into a hard climbing right (no burners, was relying on momentum) and his backseater was probably breaking the flare dispense switch. This stopped a lot of the SAMs (the guy was reading the missile book Steve gave him and found that if you can see the smoke trails in front of you, they probably don't have a lock, especially SA-7s and Redeyes. There were no stingers though, because he got away clean from the missiles. He did take a few Bofors hits, but nothing seemed affected as he made his way out of the area. He was fucking pissed though, because he hadn't had a chance to shoot back.
    >> Maus 03/16/10(Tue)01:55 No.8608606
    Smoke trails from the SAM sites shooting up at you?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)01:55 No.8608607
    Oh bad choice on his part. Never repeat a particular route more than twice or risk something like that happening. That should have been obvious.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:01 No.8608698
    Your GM must be ex-military or a extremely proficient buff to catch all of this.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:01 No.8608709
    Alright, I really think I need to get to bed.

    Someone please put this up on suptg so I dont miss it
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:04 No.8608765
    OP again
    Other than confirming there was some serious anti-air down low on the south side of the river, we realized that we had no clue what the village or river looked like now. We told the FFL, and they finally turned to head towards the village, although a one legged turtle on diazepam would have been faster than the POS russian trash hauler they were in. They really did seem like they were taking their time. The other strike aircraft were staying high, and keeping an eye out for any missiles, but none appeared. As we approached, I began picking up a target, but it was very faint, very slow, and very low. I told the Flanker pilot, and he descended to check it out. Based on the position though, I figured it was setting up an orbit over the town, and the Flanker pilot agreed to keep his distance, since we knew there were man carried anti air in the area. The Flanker approached to about 10 miles, and then called out that it was a single engine plane, and had tracer rounds coming from it, firing into the village. The FFL was told, and they simply told us to kill it. The flanker pilot figured he wouldn't need to waste a missile, so went to guns, high power, and blasted towards the target, intending on a quick kill and speedy overflight. The first part went well, the plane never saw what hit it, and according to steve, the Flanker's internal gun ripped the little thing in half like a buzzsaw. The Flanker flashed past the village, dumping a few flares pre-emptively. Without a IR warning, we don't know if anything shot at him, but Steve said there were no tracer rounds. By this time, I was low, circling the slow moving Cub, and had just come back in line with the village, when two new targets popped up on my radar, about 3 miles behind the flanker! I was 14 miles away, and I didn't think, I just hit my burners and switched to sidewinders.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:06 No.8608797
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:09 No.8608831

    Fuck yeah!
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:10 No.8608852
    probably choppers or something similar to what the Flanker just buzzsawed.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:16 No.8608949
    OP again.
    The targets firmed up, and I eased off the Burners, since I was still carrying a/g ordanance, and Steve told me going supersonic would be tough, and rough on the ordanance. I got tone just as I saw a flash from one of the targets, which I could now see was some sort of helicopter. I told the Flanker and he dumped more flares, and climbed hard. The missile followed the flare, and I got to use the phrase “Missile trashed”. My own sidewinder scored a direct hit, and the helicopter blasted to pieces. I got off a snapshot with my cannon at the other helicopter but I don't know if I connected, since I blew by too quickly. The backseater though called out that I had “Splashed” another one, and there were some impressive secondaries coming out of the jungle as we climbed out. We then all recieved a call from the FFL that they were landing and debarking, and to stand by for support missions. They had laser designators (we had asked earlier, but forgot about clouds) so are GBUs wouldn't be completely useless. The other F-4 had done a systems check in the meantime, and apparently, despite a smallish hole in his wing, there were no problems. Things were looking better, the bridges were down, we'd taken out what little air support these guys seemed to have, and with varied attack runs, the Bofors weren't posing much of a threat. Are flare supplies were another issue, since we did not know how long we would be needed to stay.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:19 No.8608992

    Hell yes! I called it. Splash two choppers.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:27 No.8609095
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    MORE! Also is there any cool WW1 aircombat game you guys know about?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:28 No.8609125
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    And then...
    Hinds...thousands of them!
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:29 No.8609134
    Op again
    We began an orbit above the cloud layer about ten miles outside the village area, and the Flanker climbed and lit off it's radar, since it was the most potent, and decided it would simply scare off anyone who came for a look by targeting them with Fire control instead of basic search. The F-111 continued it's slow orbit at altitude. That was when we got our first fire mission call. There was a large mass of troops heading towards the Antonov and the FFL who were still getting organized. We were told to suppress them and the few technicals. The gave us a grid reference, and we found the street. The Mirage maneuvered, then dove for the deck, in a high speed pass. He roared in, heading down the street, and dropped one of his cluster bombs. The result was devastatingly glorious, as the submunitions ripped apart a good percentage of a village block. The FFL called in that the strike was successful, and the Mirage guy was ecstatic, because he was already climbing out, no hits taken. But this was short lived, since a call came in for another mission almost immediately. The FFL was advancing now, clearing pockets of resistance, but one set of insurgents had become nested in a building. The couldn't designate the target yet, but they told us to call 60 seconds out from the village and they would mark the target with smoke. I rolled in, with the other Phantom following 30 seconds behind.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:29 No.8609135
    Wagner would ruin his pants.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:29 No.8609145
    Wings of War is the most well known, easy, popular, and most easily obtainable WW1 air combat game out there to my knowledge.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:29 No.8609150
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:33 No.8609203
    Thanks guys.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:34 No.8609211
    Ah yes i'd forgotten about Canvas Eagles. Another good WW1 game indeed.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:34 No.8609214
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    Aww hell yeah!
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:39 No.8609283
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    Fuck yeah Jag!
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:41 No.8609319
    op again
    We came in from the west, since the FFL were to the north, and we figured this way any strays would probably not hit them. We called, and then Steve put the smoke marker on the map, and I was able to make my turn towards it. I rippled off 2 GBUs in dumb fire mode, and a small part of me was thinking about the price of the laser systems. Still, I hit with one of them, the other hit too early and took out something (I found out what in the after action report). Just before passing over the building, I noticed it was white, and had a red cross on it. I don't know why, but I winced when Steve told me this, but there was nothing I could do. The other Phantom reported the hits, and then followed it up with a rocket attack on the structure. The village and area was in chaos, with tracers and fire in the streets everywhere. Lots of people and vehicles moving, but at our attack speeds, nothing we could really identify with certainty. We didn't get the warning of an IR, but Steve told us there were some straight smoke trails. RPGs he said, but you'd know in a jet, that it was pretty much an empty threat, and indicative of how poorly trained the OPFOR was. We peeled out dropping a flare every so often just in case, escaping back to the relative safety of the cloud cover.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:44 No.8609356
    >Just before passing over the building, I noticed it was white, and had a red cross on it.

    Shit, talk about gut punches.

    OP, this sounds like the best fucking game ever. Kudos to everyone involved.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:44 No.8609357
    Those ratbastard Frenchies.
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    >Just before passing over the building, I noticed it was white, and had a red cross on it.

    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:47 No.8609410

    Yeah that won't look good on your record unless they can get a positive confirm that it was actually being used by the enemy at the time.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:50 No.8609459
    OP again
    The FFL called in, saying our strike was a success, and that they were pushing the enemy back, and had identified two temporary chokepoints, and a staging area. The would designate the chokepoints, and mark the staging area with smoke. We decided that putting one aircraft down below the cloud cover just focused the fire, and the Mirage, myself and the Phantom circled around for another low pass. We broke out of the cloud cover at speed, coming in low over the burning village and hellish firefight like avenging angels transporting the sword of Damocles. Both myself and the Phantom dumped two more GBU-15s at the chokepoint barricades/firebases, while the Mirage turned hard to line up with the smoke. The last second turn affected his aim, and while our GBUs nailed their targets, the cluster bomb went a bit wide. It took out part of the staging area, but from the resulting fireball, probably a gas station on a corner and a few shops/buildings around it. The French still called all three strikes a success. On our way out, the Phantom beside me couldn't evade yet another SA-7, and took a proximity hit. I called out that he was smoking quite badly, and he climbed out preparing to shut down the engine. As he climbed, Steve told him his ailerons were not very responsive, and that a lot of control surface was gone from one wing. We all climbed and told him to tank, and go home. The aardvark came down, and gave him a drink, before he turned for home. Then the FFL made another call, saying that the insurgents were being forced across the river, and that anything in the river was now a target. We lined back up, and prepared for a quick run, we knew that now the Bofors would be a threat again, along with the Sams.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:51 No.8609481
    Fucking archived.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:54 No.8609523
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    Jesus H Christ. I get the message, hiding in a Church/Hospital/School isn't going to stop the fucking Legion from calling in some indiscriminate air support.

    Short Version: DOn't fuck with the Legion.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:54 No.8609533
    ITT: 3 people, tops
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:55 No.8609550
    Sounds like 40k tard is jealous.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:57 No.8609599

    Yeah? And? Most have gone to bed at this point.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:59 No.8609622
    I'd guess about twelve to sixteen people who are interested in this sort of thing throughout the day.

    Really, name any threads around at the moment other than quest threads and troll threads that are attracting more attention than this.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)02:59 No.8609632

    So there's math, charts, _and_ jet fighters? I...I think I'm going to need a new keyboard...
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:01 No.8609661
    Still awake. Still F5ing. Go on.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:06 No.8609729
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    OP again
    We dropped below the darkening clouds, on what we expected would be our last run. The scene greeting us was awesome. Half the village appeared to be on fire, with thick black smoke roiling upwards. The river was again full of boats, but heading south, to the other shore. I switched to the rocket pods and just held down the trigger, sending rockets rippling out in a sustained salvo of destruction. Plumes of water, mud, wood and metal arced into the air as the rockets played their way up the river. I saw some tracers begin to make their way up, and felt a few bumps. I angled towards the largest stream headed towards me and dumped my remaining bomb payload before spewing flares and staying low, heading out of the area at speed. The Mirage simply flew down the river, gun pods blazing away and tearing through anything that got in the way. He evaded a few last SAMs and began a slow climb. Steve reported that my plane was fine, but that the mirage had lost it's air to air radar capability. The Flanker joined up wth us as we climbed, calling out visual damage reports. One of my engines was smoking more than usual, but not severely. We both had substansial cosmetic damage to the undersides of our craft, but other than that, nothing horrible. The FFL called in, saying that they could deal with the stragglers, and that we were cleared out of the area. I bit back a 'fuck you assholes' since I figured I'd save that until after I got my cheque. The remainder of the mission was uneventful, we all landed safely, the most severely wounded aircraft being the other Phantom.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:10 No.8609780
    Can't wait to see the kill tables.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:12 No.8609808
    Wait, did we ever find out if there were any civilians in that village? Shit. Some of those boats...
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:12 No.8609815
    Like I said.

    Can't wait to see dem kill tables.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:14 No.8609835
    did we ever get an answer on whether or not OP's crew had callsigns?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:19 No.8609886
    Op again
    Air Kills
    Flanker: 1 Cessna 208 “Technical” Gunship w/M197 Gatling
    Me: 1 MD500w/Stinger, 1 Kaman KMAXw/Gsh-23 Cannon mount

    Air Incidentals

    Ground Kills
    Aardvark: 2xBridges
    F4: Entrenched Infantry (Hospital), Chokepoint
    Mirage: 2x Infantry groups, 4x Technicals, 8 x Boats
    Me: Entrenched Infantry (Hospital), Chokepoint, 13x Boats, 1x Bofors

    Ground Incidentals
    Mirage: Gas Station, 2 Shops, Market square, 7 cars, Churchfront, 2x Civilian Refugee boat
    Me: Hospital, 5x Civilian Refugee Boat
    Phantom: Hospital

    Damage Taken
    Me: Cosmetic airframe, Minor Engine
    Mirage: Cosemetic airframe
    Phantom: Catastrophic Engine, Significant control surface.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:20 No.8609901
    Well, it was a good plan... All things considered, it could have been worse.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:21 No.8609907

    Hooo Boy. That last strafing run hurt a tad.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:22 No.8609919
    Damn hope there were no reporters in the area
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:23 No.8609931
    >Mirage: Gas Station, 2 Shops, Market square, 7 cars, Churchfront, 2x Civilian Refugee boat
    >Me: Hospital, 5x Civilian Refugee Boat
    >Phantom: Hospital

    Oh wow...

    So your next mission is going to be torpedoing a hospital ship fill of orphans with AIDS whilst pouring nape onto the water to deal with swimmers.

    While the Foreign Legion orbits in choppers and masturbates into the flames.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:25 No.8609943
    Of if there were that they were on the boats.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:26 No.8609948

    No, the FFL would be handling the napalm duty simultaneously. They all cum greek fire, you know.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:27 No.8609953

    War isn't pretty. I gotta commend Steve for putting that aspect of morality into this game. It's hard to see what you're shooting when you travel at 500 knots, but the after action reports here, talk about an ethical gut punch.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:28 No.8609966
    Wait just a second.

    The motherfucking FFL turn up to tear shit up, yet they're still relying on mercenary aircraft?

    What is this shit?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:32 No.8609986
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:32 No.8609990
    OP again

    Flanker: Bearhug (Hugz)
    Aardvark: Sandman
    Me: Baron
    Mirage: Scotch
    Phantom: Biscuits
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:34 No.8610000
    As someone mentioned, deniability. Then there's the cost effectiveness. No overflights from other countries, no requirement to place a carrier off the coast, no need to obey certain treaties, etc.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:34 No.8610002
    The Baron with his Scotch and Biscuits.

    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:34 No.8610006


    You'd damn well have better painted at least some part of yor F-4 Red.
    (Also the irony of a German piloting an Israeli refit of an American plane is fairly amusing.)
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:34 No.8610007
    Jean Claud had been living in the village of St. Claire for a few months, reporting on the increasingly unstable situation. He had heard word that the rebels were going to make a push, but hadn't expected them to move on this scale. As the mortars began to land he ran to the home of the family that had been hosting him in his time here. The roof was partially collapsed, Kanna, the father, was staring at a crater with parts of his wife in it. Jean Claud arrived in time to scoop up the family's two girls, 10 and 11, before they got a good view of the carnage.

    "Kanna, we need to go NOW!" nothing "Kanna, your Daughters!" his grasp of the local dialect was rusty, but it shook the large man loose of his grief. Jean Claud handed him the older of the two girls, careful to cover her eyes. Kanna spoke, "To the boats, quickly."
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:36 No.8610017
    > to the boats, he said
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:37 No.8610028
    >To the boats

    Oh damn. If we end up developing fanfic from a homebrew game not 40k related about planes and mercenaries, I think /tg/ will exceed everyone's wildest expectations.


    Mother fucking archived!
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:38 No.8610037
    No maverick, no goose, no viper, no raptor.

    I love your playing group OP.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:40 No.8610056
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    Nice get.

    Also, just as planned.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:42 No.8610074
    They rushed from the still smoldering house. Jean Claud fumbled with his camera, taking shots as they ran. they hugged the alleys, waited for a few tense seconds when a technical swerved past, spraying machinegun fire into houses at random, and broke for it when it looked like the vehicle wasn't circling back.

    Jean Claud heard a distant thump and turned, a pillar of flame was rising from the hospital that Doctors Without Borders had set up no more than a year ago. He snapped a photo of the acrid column and kept running. They cut out the side of the village, he swore, /swore/ he say aircraft overhead. The rebels didn't have this kind of advantage that he knew of, what the hell was going on? There was a force pushing into the village from behind them, apparently attacking the rebels. He could have sworn he heard distinctly clipped mother French.

    They ran for the docks, anyone who had made it out of the village were now piling into the boats that had moments before disgorged a horde of killers into their homes. The boat was full to capacity, over flowing. He lost Kanna in the jumble. He clasped tighly to the man's daughter, Mary was her name, holding her close as the boat pulled away.

    He turned back to the village, still snapping photos, and then pulled his satellite phone from a bulky thigh pouch. The jets were still strafing, multiple blooms of fire erupted from the heart of the town, he thought he saw the church go up.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:44 No.8610092
    >Taking photographs in a wartorn third world village

    How stereotypically heartless.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:45 No.8610098
    >reporting on a war
    >taking pictures
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:47 No.8610116
    Damn that's close to what OP described. Needs more cloud cover, and the other Phantom should be a mirage.

    Damn, my f5 key is almost dead.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:48 No.8610138
    He got the phone on and running, nervous fingers misdialing the home office twice. He wasn't getting a connection, the flimsy sheet metal covering of the boat was messing up his antenna, he leaned out the side for a better connection.

    He got dial tone as a rocket scored a direct hit on the boat in front of him, turning it into a red hued fireball with a potpourri of limbs decorating the fringes, plopping into the water with sickening plumps.

    He heard the receiver on the other end pick up when a cannon round severed his arm at the shoulder. The phone and the arm dropped into the river, hand clutching the shorted electronics all the way to the bottom. Jean had enough time to turn and throw himself over Mary, to shield her eyes and block out the screams of explosive shells disintegrating everyone around her, before he bled out.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:50 No.8610150
    Severed it at the arm? Would've thought a torso hit would've been more likely.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:50 No.8610155
    And that's all for now, I eagerly await your next mission OP, describing the lives of the people scurrying around beneath all that ordnance is a fun creative exercise.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:51 No.8610163
    Lucky hit, I'd suppose.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:52 No.8610172
    Goddamn, I'm tempted to run this Game using BF-Evo or Ambush alley, and call in support like OP described!
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:52 No.8610182
    You magnificent bastard, you.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:53 No.8610188
    yeah but it's not as cinematic, don't get that lingering shot of the arm lying at the bottom of the river, phone screen reading "Connection Lost" as bodies sink through the skin of fire on the water.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:53 No.8610192
    OP again, it's awesome to see the reception this has had. I'm really tired though, so I'm going to crash. I'll try to get an explanation up tomorrow of all the stats for the plane.

    @Writer: Thats a cool perspective, It'd be awesome to see more.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:54 No.8610201

    I thought that by the end I had cum all the buckets I possibly could have, but you pulled one more out of me.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:55 No.8610206
    I'm inspired just to write fiction about this game, and I'm not even playing in it. It's just twelve levels of fuckwin, coupled with a whole metric ton of HELL YES!
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:56 No.8610213
    Do remember to think about the phone shorting out from taking a dive into the drink, twitching out as it goes down.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:56 No.8610215
    Danke danke, you keep accidentally committing imaginary atrocities, I'll keep trying to make you feel guilty for them :P

    Get a great deal of enjoyment out of these threads, thanks for filling us in.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:57 No.8610220
    I'm predicting that the mercenaries will eventually have enough of the bullshit, go "No, fuck you" and abandon them in the middle of a mission - or perhaps even assist the rebels.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:58 No.8610234
    You better believe it! I just finished reading all the other threads. i have never seen anything like this on /tg/ before. Six 300+ post threads, and all entertaining? OP has done something I never figured could happen.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)03:59 No.8610239
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)04:00 No.8610246
    >implying the rebels are not cannibalistic, raping and murdering freakshows far worse than the morally ambiguous french
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)04:01 No.8610260
    From the two missions, it looks like France is engaging in a lot of bush wars. The last mission was Sudan right? Thiis one is on the other side of the continent.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)04:02 No.8610266
    I've heard of a few individual mercenary groups (IRL) that go to Africa on their own initiative to unfuck things over there. Maybe the mercs could sign up with them, or something.
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)04:07 No.8610309
    At the very least, I expect a GM of this genius to either come up with an intricate plot or gradually build up the hate within the players to a bursting point where they just go "No. Fuck off. We are not doing any of your dirty work anymore. Fuck the payment. Good-fucking-bye."
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)04:10 No.8610330
    Writer here. Yeah, I hope they get fed up and feed the Eiffel Tower a few cellulose cases.

    Failing that, they retire from the money they earned living out the rest of there lives in lavish beach homes in Fiji.

    That is until the day that OP is told by his butler that there's a young lady from the French Embassy here to see him. He's greeted by a distinctly African face he's never seen before, still blank when the pistol comes up and puts a subsonic .22 in each of his lungs. And she'll lean over him, as he aspirates blood on his last few breathes, and she'll whisper in accented German "So glad I could finally meet you Herr 'Baron'. Those were for Jean Claud, these are for Mary." And she'll dump the magazine into his gut, unscrew the silencer and throw the gun into the sea before walking away down the beach.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)04:12 No.8610347
    ... What kind of twit takes revenge of the mercenary that does the job and not the employer?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)04:12 No.8610353
    but I thought Mary didn't catch a 25 in a barrel~

    poor Baron ;_; , a simple miss and a callous commander, and now he's got 2 extra .22 airholes to breathe through 40 years later.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)04:13 No.8610358
    Crazy twits.

    You ever see Law Abiding Citizen?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)04:16 No.8610382

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    Come to Africa, see our world class Hospitals.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)04:20 No.8610409
    Salt in the wounds.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)04:21 No.8610419
    Sins of the Father~
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)04:27 No.8610479

    'aint it a bitch?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)10:48 No.8613877
    Wow this thing's still kicking? A very obvious sign of a good thread. Guess I just gotta wait for the OP to get back so I can get some explanations for those stats of his.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)11:20 No.8614204
    Actually I think this one's run its course. OP if you get back and see this please just start another thread. I'll be waiting.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)11:36 No.8614385
    And link it back here if you could. thx
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)11:43 No.8614474
    OP again, I'll put the explanation up and then I have to go to work.

    Minimum speed in blocks/inches. (if it's speed drops below this it stalls and may crash).
    maximum speed in /blocksinches. The distance
    moved in each of the 2 phases in a turn Aircraft suffer damage if they exceed this maximum speed.
    Power Class: the raw power generated by the aircraft’s engines, allows ability to perform some manoeuvres.
    Accel 1: Acceleration the engine can produce in phase 1 of a turn. This is the maximum amount the aircraft’s speed can be increased at the start of the phase.
    Accel 2: acceleration the engine can produce in phase 2 of a turn. This is the maximum amount the aircraft’s speed can be increased at the start of the phase.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)11:46 No.8614512
    Decel: maximum amount the aircraft can reduce speed in either phase of a turn, by cutting the throttle, opening airbrakes, etc.
    Maneuver Class: the aircraft’s maneuvre rating, a measure of its ability to turn and perform maneuvres.
    Gun: the base number of dice when making a gun attack with internal guns.
    Ammo: the number of units of gun ammo carried by the aircraft for its internal guns. Each unit represents one second of fire.
    Bomb comp: A modifier reflecting the capability and accuracy of the aircraft’s bomb sights and computer.
    Damage Points: the damage value of the aircraft; the aircraft is crippled when the number of damage points suffered equals at least half this value, and it is destroyed when the number of damage points suffered equals or exceeds this value.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)11:49 No.8614543
    Chaff flares self explanatory
    ECm is modifier, mine has none
    Radar modifier, for spotting and missile locks. the L is for long range
    Size is how big the plane is for people trying to see me
    SPot is how good the plane is for visual spotting other aircraft, in this case I get a bonus for the extra crewmember
    Load points is how much ordanance on the wings
    Year is easy
    Missile load is typical carry.
    My Phantom has no notes, although vertical take off and stuff woul go in the notes section.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)11:51 No.8614560
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    Off to work now.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)12:01 No.8614718
    Thanks OP. That helped. Look forward to hearing from you again.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)12:05 No.8614771
    I want to see the Flanker stats now.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)12:06 No.8614782
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    Same here.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)12:08 No.8614799
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    Mad Celebrations for OP! Danke!
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)12:15 No.8614889
    I'd be more interested in seeing the Mirage or F111's stats.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)12:17 No.8614919
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    Bravo Zulu OP
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    Way to go OP. Way to go.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)12:30 No.8615048
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    God. Damn.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)12:32 No.8615061
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    >Itt: Pure distilled Win

    We need a 1d4 chan page for this epic level GM and OP.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)12:33 No.8615073

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    This thread made my day. Just got home from work, found another /tg/ talks planes thread.

    Filled with aviation porn, a misison report, some write faggotry, glimpse at rules, new games for me to try...

    You are doing something to /tg/ op, you are making it not suck 24/7.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)12:45 No.8615207
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    Not as awesome as this
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:00 No.8615377
    I'm sold.

    But my group only likes DnD. We tried d20 modern and it was a disaster. i really really want to play something like this, but how do I get them to try it/want to try it.

    Help me /tg/kenobi. You are my only hope.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:03 No.8615410

    You've gotta present it as cool. Give them tidbits here and there for a couple weeks before asking them about it. Tell them little stories or maybe even point them toward these mission stories. Show them some cool aircraft and weapons they could use. Maybe even point them in the direction of some novels that are similar...I'm thinking some of the Star Wars X-Wing series atm.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:04 No.8615430

    Get a group of likeminded individuals from /tg/ together and play online. Stop clinging to your group, they're not the only roleplayers in the world.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:05 No.8615446

    I like the idea but i've never been able to manage something other than play by post online. How would one play something like this online?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:07 No.8615470

    Either over IRC, an IM like Skype or a program like Maptool or similar.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:09 No.8615494
    Someone link this to /k/, we might get new fa/tg/uys.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:20 No.8615652
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    Oh shit, that's a scary thought. /k/ommandos playing with elegan/tg/entlemen.

    Pic related.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:30 No.8615794
    Doesn't solve my problem. I want to get my group into this. How?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:32 No.8615816

    We've been here for a while. Don't you know that /k/ommandos can smell a /k/-related thread 15 boards away?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:34 No.8615829
    Really, from your basement bomb shelter and wearing your just in case gas mask, you can smell it?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:35 No.8615849

    Yep. Crazy shit, eh?
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:35 No.8615850

    Better up that modifier, son, cuz this boards either 18 or 32 away dependin' how ya count.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:37 No.8615877
    It's only 15 by my count.
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    I am sad, soon this thread will sage, and yet another 300+ post bonanza on planes will drift away into the ether, and I will wait, softly crying until OP returns and starts a new thread.

    I will smile, for he truly brings light to /tg/.

    OP, take me now, take me to your magical aviation rpg. Let me meet Steve, hold his hand, caress the back of his neck as we come together in an embrace I've been dreaming about for the past 5 days.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:45 No.8615973
    So, does anyone have a download link for Birds of Prey?

    I couldn't find anything on /rs/, 4shared or google...
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:49 No.8616018
    Considering its an Ad astra game, I don't think more than 14 people have actually bought it.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:49 No.8616027

    You'd need the little blocks and other wacky shit that game comes with too if you wanted to play, not just the rules.
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    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)13:59 No.8616167
    I know, but those can be made or substituted for with other items.

    The actual rules are a necessity
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)14:00 No.8616195
    Awesome. Must own.

    Buy it. If you want it, buy it. Based on the aircraft data table that was posted here, you should know how much effort they put into it. Give em some cash.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)14:04 No.8616242
    If I could find a way to get it over here (the Netherlands) that doesn't involve a credit card I would, trust me
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)14:26 No.8616535
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    Bamp for BoP link
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)14:31 No.8616605
    Not going to happen dude. Sorry.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)15:01 No.8617006
    Too bad :(
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)15:34 No.8617475
    op better hurry up, I'm missing my fix.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)16:48 No.8618607
    Your GM must be ex-military or a extremely proficient buff to catch all of this.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)17:07 No.8618893
    Yeah like I said Ad Astra games are super niche games. I've looked all over the net for the rules to download but no dice. It just ain't happening man.

    So i suppose i'll just have to subsist off of MAS, Wild Blue, and OPs games forever or until OP gets the rules online.
    >> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)17:09 No.8618920
    /tg/ has changed.

    For the better.

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