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    536 KB 40k epic dump Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)19:39 No.8036709  
    no space wolves stuff please...
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    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)19:42 No.8036769

    My favorite part about this is that its not only an official model, but thats the picture from GW's site. God that thing looks awful.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)19:43 No.8036781
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    found this yesterday, epic imperial fists scout
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)19:43 No.8036788
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    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)19:45 No.8036821
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    thread needs moar sangunius
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)19:47 No.8036846
    There are some pretty nice models in there, though. I like Lukas the Trickster best.
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    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)19:48 No.8036873

    By the way, does the Emprah lack any and all iconography skills? Seriously, look at Horace sometime. He looks CRAZY EVUL. Why did it take Emps until after the killing of a lot of loyal soldiers and his own crippling before he got any real inkling that something might be up with Horus?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)19:50 No.8036892
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    ...that is the faggiest Sanguinius I've ever seen, wow.
    >> EMPRAH 02/11/10(Thu)19:53 No.8036938
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    Yo why's everyone talkin bout me?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)19:53 No.8036941
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    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)19:55 No.8036973
    he's got a motherfucking SWORD what the shit are you smoking
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)19:57 No.8037002
    The chapters present in this thread are aberrations, and their destiny is to fade from memory.

    Such divergents play little part in Warhammer 40,000 for it is the tale of the Ultramarines, and all those who follow their example.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:00 No.8037053
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    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:01 No.8037090
    Can we get some pics of a REAL primarch please? like.... Some of me? :D
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:03 No.8037111

    I have no idea who you are. More Leman Russ.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:04 No.8037137
    Read the name bro! If you knew anything bout 40k You know of Roboute Guilliman, the savior of the Imperium in there greatest time of need, no problem or anything...
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:08 No.8037226
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    Here's a real primarch, Rowboat.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:09 No.8037263

    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:10 No.8037284
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    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:11 No.8037292
    Iron hands are sweet, I managed to get 3 boxes of the IH tac squads and made a sweet Mars Guardians force out of em :D

    P.s Lemon Russ sucks
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:12 No.8037327
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    Iron Within, Iron Without. Way better than Iron On My Hands.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:13 No.8037348
    too bad bout the hitler haircut and the whole falling into choas... :(
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:14 No.8037361

    No Lion, you are the traitors.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:15 No.8037375
    Cypher is badass though
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:16 No.8037395
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    Superior primarch.

    No exceptions.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:16 No.8037405
    Yeah, Iron hands are pretty badass, dispite their primarch REALLY quite being >IRON HANDS OF THE IRON HANDS AND HIS IRON HANDS.

    Definately my favorite of the official chapters, followed up by the salamanders at second, my spess mahrenes, at least the ones I got in Black Reach, as I don't actually play SMs, are an iron hands successor chapter. The Bronze Suns.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:16 No.8037406

    We all know that the greatest traitor of them all is Roboute Guilliman.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:18 No.8037435
    Dorn was pretty badass, stood up to his faggy smurfy brother.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:18 No.8037438
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    No U
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:20 No.8037483
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    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:21 No.8037500
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    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:21 No.8037504
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    Billy you betrayed me!
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:22 No.8037522
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:24 No.8037555
    Besides the fact that when the Emperor made Horus the Warmaster, Horus sent our whole chapter into bumfuck eastern fringe where we couldn't get to terra in time anywho, But we held the shit together BY OUR SELVES THANK YOU.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:29 No.8037673

    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:33 No.8037750
    However he will always wish that he was Ultramarine.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:36 No.8037816
    Horus took the fastest, straightest path to Terra have the Istvaan III Dropsite massarce, there was really no way to get intel on him doing shit till The Imperial Fists found the Deathguard cruiser that made contact with Dorn. And still, Even when he did, when word reached us, the seige was over retard, we couldn't have got there, we were just following orders.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:36 No.8037830
    You fell for an obvious trap.
    >> Marshal Commidus 02/11/10(Thu)20:36 No.8037831
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    The Primarchs geneseed lives on in Us brothers. Turn your fury to those that threaten the Imperium, not to each other.

    Vox Closed.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:37 No.8037851
    He's right, good show man.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:38 No.8037877
    Yeah but he will never be an Ultramarine.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:40 No.8037907
    Flesh Tearers here. Storm Harbinger inbound, Ultraheretic.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:41 No.8037923
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    Hey man Black Templar's are sweet
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:41 No.8037929


    FOR US
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    Black Templars are also as un-Codexy as a chapter can possibly be. Coincidence? I think not.
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    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:44 No.8038002
    Yeah but they still wish they where Ultramarines.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:47 No.8038048
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    So im okay with a few chapters staying home, cuz when the other seven eights come to help I don't think you're needed. Plus "all the others" withstanding Ferrus Manus who died on Istvaan III. GG round 2?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:48 No.8038079
    So few of you were willing to lay down your lives in the service of the Emperor. Your numbers are a mark of eternal shame.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:49 No.8038086
    Or eternal awesome!
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:49 No.8038109
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    Kay I guess We'll leave, have fun defending your Imperium dickheads
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:51 No.8038129
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    Fuck off, we don't want you.
    >> Ferrus Manus 02/11/10(Thu)20:51 No.8038132
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    I wouldn't help you, even if they did revive my shiny corpse on mars.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:51 No.8038138
    Alone among all Chapter realms, Ultramar boasts hundreds of well-equipped Guard regiments, and the population is fiercely loyal to the Lord Macragge.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:52 No.8038149
    Exactly, branch off empire anyone?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:53 No.8038173
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    More like branch-off buffet, amirite?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:54 No.8038184
    Hey, now that the Ultramarines are gone maybe we can finally get Vulkan and Russ to finally come back.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:55 No.8038189

    The Ultramarines have stopped Hive Fleets Behemoth and Kraken. No other force in the galaxy could have accomplised such a feat.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:56 No.8038205
    Come back to do... what? If all the marine chapters that are related to us leave, then theres like.... 10000 between all of you. Good luck my friends, goodluck.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:56 No.8038210
    And by "Ultramarines" you mean "The Imperial Navy."
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:57 No.8038223
    Actually Uriel ventris stopped a whole splinter fleet with 8 Marines.
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    And when the REAL hive fleets get here they'll nom you first.

    Also I accidentally your entire first company. They were delicious.
    >> Ferrus Manus 02/11/10(Thu)20:58 No.8038240
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    Only a coward requires such weak flesh to guard them!
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)20:58 No.8038246
    That's just because the others were held back by your bullshit codex. CRANK UP THE MARINE MANUFACTURING, LADS!
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)20:58 No.8038249
    I knew the steaksauce dispensers were a bad idea!
    >> Marshal Commidus 02/11/10(Thu)20:59 No.8038260
    Brothers, I implor you to cease this Petty Bickering. Even now the enemies of the Imperium draw ever closer. Surely you haven't forgotten that of all things.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)21:01 No.8038292
    Most of the Imperial Fighting strategies and lifestyles are based off my writing, so your going to change a whole way of life cause your being dicks to the Brothers who held your sorry ass intact for with no help? Gee thanks.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:03 No.8038320
    >Allowing freedom of movement
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    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:04 No.8038339
    Look at what the legions accomplished before you made a shit of everything with your pussyfooting. This might actually break the stalemate. Also, we're just saying FUCK YOU to number restrictions, that's not the same as throwing all tactics and strategies out of the window. Take what is useful, leave what is not.
    >> Ferrus Manus 02/11/10(Thu)21:05 No.8038349
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    Our enemies indeed draw closer, Marshall, however, one must not forget the enemy within, the insidious traitor, and the greatest threat of all.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:07 No.8038392
    whoa whoa whoa, that is epic. Does that person have a website or gallery?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:08 No.8038404
    And thus Guilliman ADMITS to the treachery he has been plotting since the moment he first learned of his duty to the Imperium and mankind.

    How good of you to make your treason plain for even your staunchest defenders to see.

    And enjoy the collapse of your technological base when the Adeptus Mechanicus withdraws itself from your systems; shaky though their loyalty may seem at times, they still grasp (as you do not) that they need the Imperium as much as it needs them.

    You will not be mourned or missed.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)21:08 No.8038412
    Lol Okay, thats cool I guess, I'll just join chaos and get them to Res my primarch, so... there now 100000 marines, in your imperium, with the smartest tactitian ever on there side. Not a smart move. And besides how am I a traitor? Sorry I helped, sorry I kept the imperium alive, I could have just kept to Ultramar but no, I decided to help the whole goddamn thing. And teleporters can go that far, plus it wasn't our fault, the Warmaster said go there and we did, we had no idea he was bad, just like the rest of the primarchs
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:10 No.8038438
    It depends on just how deep your treachery goes.

    I wonder, do all of those successor chapters KNOW that they were spawned from the tainted geneseed of one who let the Emperor himself be struck down rather than rallying to his defense as did the loyal Primarchs?
    >> Ferrus Manus 02/11/10(Thu)21:10 No.8038443
    No bloody clue. But they captured my awesomeness well.
    Indeed he has.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)21:10 No.8038444
    Praise be the Blessed Sanguinius! Long may his sacrifice for the beloved emperor be remembered. May his gift to mankind never be squandered by the likes of Guilliman.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:10 No.8038448
    THE RETURN TO GREATNESS IS AT HAND! No more shall the fury of the emperor be bound by arbitrary regulations, but find its way into the heart of our enemies in every way it can! Forwards, to glory
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)21:11 No.8038459
    Uhm... Yeah. The ultramarines Make all chapters swear an oath of loyalty to the Chapter to fight with them in there time of need. Ex? White consuls, Mortificators, Sable Swords.
    >> Marshal Commidus 02/11/10(Thu)21:13 No.8038497
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    True my Brother, but fighting amongst the faithful invites those who seek to harm the Imperium, especially from within. We must hold fast and prepare for that day. For as those who forget our sacred mission may fall to the throngs, I with the Black Templars Tenth Crusade at my back Will stand strong and face the Hordes. And we shall claim GLORIOUS VICTORY for the whole of the Imperium. This I swear upon the geneseed of Dorn from which we are Made.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:13 No.8038503
    See how quick he is to turn away from the emperor's light! Your treachery shall make the truly loyal fight with increased vigour, for unlike you we understand the concept of honour and duty, even in the face of death and defeat. That is your failing, and you cowardly fools shall be driven fleeing from the battlefield before the forces of the imperium.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:14 No.8038513
    You decided to take everything the Emperor ever stood for and pervert it into a soul-deadening dystopic horror.

    You took the glory that was the Imperium and turned it into a stagnant and decaying tomb of former honors.

    And you have the unmitigated GALL to claim that because of this, you deserve the love of those whose brothers and sisters died while you and your brood did nothing.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)21:14 No.8038519
    Without us, what Forces? and without the Codex, and everyone starts making Space Marine Legions again, Great, Heresy 2.0 is at hand and We aint goona help.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:15 No.8038529
    You can say that after GW makes us playable again, boss. You know, after we get SOMETHING to be be good at, instead of "good at one thing that the other choppy variant chapters are better at".

    Hell, Space Wolves can take up to 15 Missile Launchers in a game. Blood Angels are going to get a flying Land Raider that can transport EVERYTHING.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:16 No.8038539
    With as many forces as it takes to defeat you. The heresy only happened because of complacency, and the primarchs' failings. As for your help, that's a laugh. You never helped in the first place.
    >> Ferrus Manus 02/11/10(Thu)21:16 No.8038550
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    I do not argue among the faithful, nephew, he has admitted to heresy, heresy of the highest order, no less. How can you not see it?
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)21:16 No.8038555
    We applaud you brother. Your speech has moved me brother. I think I can say with confidence that all of the Blessed Sanginius's children stand with you as one.
    >> Marshal Commidus 02/11/10(Thu)21:18 No.8038588
    My tenth crusade still fields a strong force. it takes a bit more thinking then it used to but we manage.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:19 No.8038603
    >Hell, Space Wolves can take up to 15 Missile Launchers in a game. Blood Angels are going to get a flying Land Raider that can transport EVERYTHING.
    ...You know, I WISH I had some sort of cryingtemplar.jpg. This is getting rediculous, old-Smoke advantage or not.

    The Black Templar codex is bollocks compared to the other SM codices. They might as well make it so that we don't have a codex anymore, since Land Raider Crusaders are now for everybody and their dog, and actually not as useful as Land Raider Redeemers.

    Fuck you GW.
    >> Eldrad Ulthran 02/11/10(Thu)21:20 No.8038614
    *Moves rock two inches to left with foot; Places a similar size rock 4 inches in front of previous rock's location*

    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)21:21 No.8038638
    So tell me Farseer, in 10,000 years who will that rock trip that you are tittering with laughter?
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)21:22 No.8038653
    Helped with what again? Taken the entire eastern side of the galaxy for the Imperium while the other 17 Chapters had to take care of the rest? sorry for being good at what we do. Plus we are the most loyal to the Emperor out of all the Chapters, We not even stray ourselves from his teachings to our primarch unlike the other Chapters that lurk away with there own teachings thinking they are better than the Emperors himself! Without us, there would be no Imperium! It was physically impossible to get from where we were to Terra in the time needed to aid in the Seige. Plus, Dorn had designed the "perfect" defenses of Terra, so why did they fail? They took the gamble and Deepstriked onto Horus' flagship and fought face to face. It was the Emperors call and I hope you respect that decision. And plus, if the Primarchs Second only to the Emperor, could commit heresy, then it should be much easier for lesser beings to do the same!
    >> Ferrus Manus 02/11/10(Thu)21:22 No.8038656
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    Your codex was not completely wrong, my fallen brother, just stagnant, your followers adhere to it as if it were the emperor's word itself, emperor's will be damned. It is too rigid, and flawed. Remember how well following the codex your ultramarines did against the Tyranid? Good men have been executed for saving the imperium for they did not follow your silly little codex. Should we go back to legions? No. That was actually a good idea, it's sad to see how far you've fallen since you're 'death' brother.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:23 No.8038680
    You already stated your willingness to turn to chaos. Your words are as poison and shall be purged.
    >> Marshal Commidus 02/11/10(Thu)21:23 No.8038682
    I mean as Marines argue amongst themselvs, it invites heresy and treason into our midst.
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    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:24 No.8038699
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)21:24 No.8038701
    By who, and Go ahead, kill the most loyal Servants of the Imperium, then we'll see whose unpopular when we are sitting at the Emperors side watching his Legacy crumble into your at your hands.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:25 No.8038712
    >Land Raider Crusaders are now for everybody and their dog
    Why exactly did this happen?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:26 No.8038727
    I wish to have hot sex with Leman Russ. This is extremely heretical.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:26 No.8038728

    Matt Ward.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:26 No.8038730
    Claiming loyalty at this point is futile. You are loyal only unto yourself, traitorous cur. Your shackles shall be no more.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:26 No.8038738
    >Most loyal
    Sanguinius called.
    Daddy loved him better.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:27 No.8038757
    I do not say we should slay the Ultramarines, or rather that we should prioritize their destruction to the expense of other concerns.

    But the traitor Primarch and those of his brood who stand with him should be rendered Excommunicatio Traitoris. They should receive no further assistance from the Imperium or any within it. Let them all die to the last man when the Tyranid or the Tau or the Ork ravages their domains, for they shall have no succor from those of us who remember what Guilliman has done and not done.

    And if they still live when our other more important concerns are dealt with, then we shall come to Macragge and there will be a reckoning for Guilliman's crimes.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)21:27 No.8038758
    If you must kill us fine, we will go without a fight, for killing other servants of the Emperor is an act of heresy, and we shall not commit.
    And I was stating what the outcomes could be, I was not declaring myself a traitor, even the lowliest guardsman could figure that out.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:29 No.8038791
    An astute plan, brother. Let him be a shield for the true faithful, whether they want to or not.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:30 No.8038821
    Such a changing tone in you. Are you that much of a hypocritical coward that you will not even admit to your own heretical statements?
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)21:32 No.8038848
    Who said anything about killing you. We'll just deploy with the same rapid response you showed at the siege of Terra to help your men. After all they are "Ultramarines" why just one of them should be worth a standard marine squad at least, right?
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    I concur, battle-brother. This is the best option.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)21:34 No.8038902
    Are you such a narrow minded fool to be arguing over such a paltry thing? The Ultramarines have and always will serve the Emperor eternal. We are his most loyal servants and will remain so. If you need aid, we shall come, if we request it and you do not? Fine, so shall it be, if you seek to use us as a shield so be it, for every victory won will make us all the stronger, and in turn, you are helping us become greater, More than Heroes to the Imperium and to that, I shall thank you.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:36 No.8038932
    As they fight a futile war against our enemies we should focus on replenishing our forces with great haste. The imperium shall rise again out of milennia of crippling restrictions.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)21:38 No.8038965
    Even Dante the closest to the most honored Sanguinius agreed that there was merit in sections of the Codex.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:39 No.8038982
    >Land Raider Crusaders are now for everybody and their dog

    They have ALWAYS been available to everybody. Not dogs though. Dogs aren't allowed in the store.
    >> Eldrad Ulthran 02/11/10(Thu)21:39 No.8038984
    If I were to tell you, your mon-keigh brain will still not comprehend.

    To be frank, I'm quite pleased seeing as the Ultramarines are the most hated of loyalist chapters and are doomed to fal-- fuck I said to much.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:39 No.8038992
    Know that none shall be lulled by your words. We have seen your true self this day and it shall not be forgotten. His shall be denied you and you shall die in the darkness your own cowardice and avarice has made for you. Onwards, then, to your well deserved grave.
    >> High Marshal Helbrecht 02/11/10(Thu)21:40 No.8039004
    My Brothers, this has gone on long enough. Nay, too long, If this Bickering does not cease i will have no recourse but to bring this thread to the attention of the Inquisition. And they shall use far less words.

    Vox Closed.
    >> Ferrus Manus 02/11/10(Thu)21:40 No.8039011
    It is as he says, your tone has most definately changed. You have committed Heresy, consider yourself Excommunicatio Traitoris by my men, and the Adeptus Mechanicus, I will be talking to the other primarchs as well about this.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:40 No.8039016
    As mentioned before, keep what is useful, discard what is not.
    >> Roboute Guilliman 02/11/10(Thu)21:41 No.8039030
    Yes. Lets.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:41 No.8039042
    Since when does the Inquisition listen to the Black Templars?
    >> Lord Marneus Calgar 02/11/10(Thu)21:42 No.8039061
    Uhm.... what Primarchs? There all dead or Daemons now....
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:43 No.8039073
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    Hey! Hey! Hey! You think we want to deal with those dickbags?

    I didn't betray my home planet my biological father and the rest of the space marines to hang out with the fucking smurfs okay? You keep 'em.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)21:43 No.8039075
    *snickers* Ohhh, now I get it. This I have to see.
    *bursts into a belly laugh.*
    >> High Marshal Helbrecht 02/11/10(Thu)21:43 No.8039084
    My full army list for Apoc games has an ORDO HERETICUS Inquisitor. I'll post the PDF later.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:43 No.8039085
    Merit in sections, yes.

    But in the basic principle behind the whole, that something so utterly static and unchanging could ever truly serve the Imperium?

    In the supposed name of opposing the taint of Chaos, he might as well have turned us into the Iron Men of the Dark Age of Technology, a flawed creation that can merely function according to its programming without any capacity for growth or gain.
    >> Marneus Calgar 02/11/10(Thu)21:43 No.8039092

    Witchery and lies of the Xenos will be scattered to the wind when put against warriors following the sacred Codex.

    I shall personally crush Ulthwe's armies and tear its Avatar limb from limb.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:44 No.8039096
    Some fight still in places you fear to tread.
    >> Lord Marneus Calgar 02/11/10(Thu)21:45 No.8039134
    Supposedly, And hopefully, they will be needed soon. For the enemies of the Imperium draw fast on hearing out outcast. We shall fight them, and you shall fight us, but we shall not fight you.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:46 No.8039138
    Yeah, does Marshal whatshisnuts realise exactly how loudly the Ultramarines would be howling for the Inquisition if they had proof of just how many Black Templars there are?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:46 No.8039142
    Khan, as the primarch of the Legion Of Real Men is still alive.

    He's fighting as a gladiator in Commoragh.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)21:46 No.8039155
    I don't know we Children of Sanguinius have grown. There are the Blood Angels who were the founding legion, then the Flesh Tearers, the Angels Encarmine, Angels Sanguine, and so on down to us the Blood Knights and beyond.
    >> Ferrus Manus 02/11/10(Thu)21:47 No.8039173
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    There are those who do not have the taint that still draw breath. Your primarch is in stasis, healing, Leman's probably beating up daemons, he never had any tact...I'm on mars being revived, Though did they ever recover my head? I kinda miss that thing. Which reminds me, I owe Fulgrim a decapitation.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)21:48 No.8039188
    It's why some of us are glad most of the "Ultra Marines" can't count to 20 without removing their boots.
    >> High Marshal Helbrecht 02/11/10(Thu)21:49 No.8039196
    every other first founding has several successor chapters we just didnt feel like breaking up the family.
    >> Eldrad Ulthran 02/11/10(Thu)21:49 No.8039214
    Poor human, blinded from logic. Struggling to crawl through this universe while clinging to worthless rituals and faith in a rotting corpse. If only you proved to be more useful...
    >> Ursakar E. creed 02/11/10(Thu)21:50 No.8039241
    Uhm, Your dead. Stay that way. And at least our race did''t go to shit cause of some loud crying. Puss.
    >> High Marshal Helbrecht 02/11/10(Thu)21:51 No.8039242
    even though we are a second founding!
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)21:53 No.8039300
    You see now Eldar, I was willing to allow you to have your fun, and laugh at your jokes, but then you had to go and insult the Emperor I serve, and my lord Sanginius gave his life for. That was very uncalled for, rude, and honorless.
    >> Col. V. Stagler 02/11/10(Thu)21:54 No.8039304
    We of the Deathkorps shall not adhere to such talk of the mighty astartes, settle your differences! Mistake or not Guilliman did what he did, and we are still here, there is no sense fighting. The DeathKorps gave ourselves a Deathoath to die in the service of the Emperor for what inbred fighting and devastation we brought upon our own kind. Do not make the same mistakes as we did.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:55 No.8039333
    No, the enemies of the Imperium will feel true fear, knowing that we are no longer shackled to the weight of unthinking stagnation and blind obedience that the Ultramarines and their progenitor have tied as a garrote about the throat of the Imperium for the past ten thousand years of decay.

    And the Primarchs will return because THEY know what it means to be faithful to something other than their own ambition and pride. Even the Chaos-tainted Primarchs, mad and vile as they are, still comprehend that. The death of Magnus the Red I will weep for, for he sought to serve the Emperor and only fell to Chaos in a moment of desperation. The death of Horus I will weep for, for he sought to serve the Emperor and only fell to Chaos in a moment of weakness. But for your death, Guilliman, I will shed no tears except those of joy, for you betrayed our Father with eyes open and mind clear, and without any darkness but your own clawing at your soul.
    >> High Marshal Helbrecht 02/11/10(Thu)21:55 No.8039339
    well said guardsman
    >> Eldrad Ulthran 02/11/10(Thu)21:56 No.8039361
    Because the Horus Heresy doesn't mirror that of the Fall does it? Typical mon-keigh thinking...
    >> Col. V. Stagler 02/11/10(Thu)21:58 No.8039407
    We did not control as much as you did at the time of your fall, and it was your sins of debauchery that brought your own fall, and ours.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)21:59 No.8039418

    Given that the Imperium survived the Horus Heresy as a galaxy spanning civilization and the Eldar are quietly dying out... I'd say no, no it doesn't exactly mirror it at all.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)22:01 No.8039457
    So your saying find a civilized way to solve this without having to argue like old hens?

    Boxing sound fair. All of us vs. Robouete and Calgar?

    Oh your right. When you guys F up, you F up bigger than anyone. You partied so hard it gave birth to a chaos god who ate your civilization. We can't top that, not that we'd want to. Who wants to be remembered as the "Galaxy's biggest screw ups".
    >> A Random Guardsmen 02/11/10(Thu)22:04 No.8039516
    *trips on rock, dropping lasrifle*

    *lasrifle hits the second rock, discharging a round that crashes into the buckle of Creeeeeed's belt, allowing his pants enough room to slip down to his ankles and reveal his "I love Tau" boxers*
    >> Commissar Cain 02/11/10(Thu)22:04 No.8039522
    well said Colonel, always a pleasure to see some-one out rhetoric those stuffy Eldar.

    so.....what's everyone talking about?
    >> Veteran Sergeant Aeril Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)22:08 No.8039579
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    Why, that's hardly fair Brother Captain. Calgar will get all the punishment while Girliman is off in the corner somewhere.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)22:08 No.8039597
    Sounds good to me.
    >> Heretical GM 02/11/10(Thu)22:11 No.8039655
    *Belly Laughs* Ok now that was classic.

    You bring up a good point Veteran Sargent.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)22:14 No.8039703
    *cut to Eldrad rifling through his underwear drawer the next day and finding that his favorite pair of boxers is now forever awash in the aroma of Creed-sweat"
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)22:16 No.8039757
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    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)22:17 No.8039765
    What would you recommend then Veteran Sergeant Aeril?
    >> Eldrad Ulthran 02/11/10(Thu)22:17 No.8039771
    While we Eldar bear full responsibility for creating the Great Enemy, do you not realize that you are just as guilty in creating the others? The true enemy is chaos, and being bound to wretched old textbook will only close your minds and invite your deaths. To talk with the mon-keigh is to teach a baby quantum physics.

    *Giggles before braking out into full blown laughter*
    >> High Marshal Helbrecht 02/11/10(Thu)22:18 No.8039783
    are angry Marines imperium or chaos?
    >> Tzeentch 02/11/10(Thu)22:19 No.8039804

    You, I have matters to discuss with you regarding Isha.
    >> Col. V. Stagler Of the DeathKorps 02/11/10(Thu)22:19 No.8039809
    Not what I meant hallowed Angel of death, I mean that you should be fighting, you are made of the Emperor himself, respect it as so, fighting amongst another astartes is like fighting the Emperor and it shall not be allowed, if a death breaks on either side, I can ASSURE you that the deathkorps will respond in force against the accused. We shall die at your hands, but we shall die for the Emperor.
    >> Ferrus Manus 02/11/10(Thu)22:19 No.8039820
    Silence, Alien. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
    >> Vaalintine !!Sj5q8Tl0dWU 02/11/10(Thu)22:20 No.8039827
    They are angry FOR TEH EMPRAH
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)22:21 No.8039845
    Dear Emperor man, why do you have anything written on your codpiece? Most enemy forces are male not female, and I for one would not be interested in eldar men, or chaos forces checking out my package.
    >> Nurgle 02/11/10(Thu)22:23 No.8039873
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    Yeah...... She's mine now.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)22:24 No.8039898
    And I can assure you that Guilliman has renounced the Emperor and all that he stood for, and done so without any prompting from Chaos to cause his fall.

    Let the 'Ultramarines' call themselves that, if they wish; the term "Marines" is a generic one whose origins are lost amidst the Dawn Centuries. But the name of "Astartes" is one of which they are no longer worthy. Do not throw yourself upon certain death in the defense of those who care not for your sacrifice or any other made in the service of something besides their stifling vision.
    >> Veteran Sergeant Aeril 02/11/10(Thu)22:25 No.8039911
    I suppose the only way to be sporting about this is to let Eldrad fight them both.
    >> Col. V. Stagler Of the DeathKorps 02/11/10(Thu)22:26 No.8039930
    MY duty is to the Imperium and if I am called I shall answer, no matter who is asking me. As long as they abide as Imperial soldiers then they are staunch allies and welcome friends.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)22:28 No.8039975
    Hey your right! I think that would be fair.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)22:33 No.8040068
    Sounds good to me.
    I respect your resolve, however I do what I do for my father, and the imperium as well.
    >> Col. V. Stagler Of the DeathKorps 02/11/10(Thu)22:33 No.8040089
    And who are you?
    >> Ferrus Manus 02/11/10(Thu)22:36 No.8040134
    Oh. Sorry, i'm not very recognizable without my head.
    >> Col. V. Stagler Of the DeathKorps 02/11/10(Thu)22:37 No.8040149
    Lord Ferrus! I am sorry for not recognizing you! But as is said, I will do whats best for the Imperium, even if it means going to certain death against the astartes.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)22:37 No.8040154
    It is a fairly recognizable feature yes.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)22:38 No.8040169
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    >> Eldrad Ulthran 02/11/10(Thu)22:39 No.8040207
    Maybe there is potential in your species after all...
    >> Ferrus Manus 02/11/10(Thu)22:42 No.8040248
    You misunderstand, zealous commissar, Beating the crap out of Eldrad is not Heresy.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)22:43 No.8040261
    And that gentlemen and fellow Astrates is why I wear my helmet.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)22:43 No.8040266
    Well, I look at it this way:

    No matter who wins, at least one incredible dick will lie dead, and we shall all be better off for it.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)22:44 No.8040288
    Working with the Xenos is heresy, they are an abomination to the Emprah. Its disgusting to see a primarch fall to such Xenos trickery...wait till I get within BLAMMING range...
    >> Col. V. Stagler Of the DeathKorps 02/11/10(Thu)22:45 No.8040301
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    We will be there.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)22:48 No.8040361
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    Personally can't wait to see what Honsou does to Ultramar :3 I was pretty much at half mast the entire first chapter of Heroes of the Space Marines when Honsou gathered that massive army to invade the smurfs =P
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)22:48 No.8040368
    Who the hell said anything about working with weak xeno scum?
    >> Veteran Sergeant Aeril 02/11/10(Thu)22:50 No.8040403
    Hm? Commissar, you seem to have scratched the paint of my Terminator armor,
    >> Overzealous Commissar 02/11/10(Thu)22:53 No.8040452
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)22:53 No.8040462

    Does anyone have the original of this? My friend is pretty pissed that Horo is in the place of Leman Russ.
    >> Marneus Calgar 02/11/10(Thu)22:54 No.8040474

    So, lesser chapters are planning to turn on the saviours of the Imperium? Do not think the Ultramarines have neglected to account for this possibility, and do not assume the support of greater Imperium so hastily.

    Remember who the first High Lord and Lord Commander of the Imperium was, and remember his heirs are not ones to forsake their connections.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)22:55 No.8040487
    This is a disgrace.

    Get that Leman Russ up on a proper base like the others, you hamfisted heathen!
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)22:58 No.8040552
    Lesser Chapters!?! I hope you have something to back up that ego blue boy.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)22:59 No.8040569
    The 'lesser' chapters, as you call them, are not turning on the saviors of the Imperium, for you Ultramarines are anything but our saviors. When danger reared its ugly head, you bravely turned your tail and fled. And you have remained there ever since.

    We have simply realized what has been clear all along: that Guilliman and the Ultramarines have always seen the remainder of the Imperium as a mere tool, to be callously discarded when the mood takes you.
    >> Ferrus Manus 02/11/10(Thu)23:00 No.8040586
    You are beggining to fall, my nephew, you care not about the imperium at all, but for the glory of ultramar, and no one else. Die for the emperor and spare yourselves the shame.
    >> Col. V. Stagler Of the DeathKorps 02/11/10(Thu)23:03 No.8040630
    Alas, my Regiment is needed to aid the P.D.F of Regamein against the Renegade Guardsmen. Farewell, I hope this pointless debate is done if I return.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)23:05 No.8040675
    inb4 5th Ed Codex was intentionally written like this to hint at Calgar pulling a Commander Farsight in 6th ed.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)23:06 No.8040697
    Given who we are, this debate will rage on long into the night, and the grudges born of it will last longer than your life. Given where your going I'm going to guess that is about 18 seconds...
    >> Ferrus Manus 02/11/10(Thu)23:10 No.8040762
    This guardsman is a true man of the imperium, you have that little faith in him? His flesh may be weak, but his soul is strong. He has the emperor's blessing.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)23:11 No.8040780
    That's why I gave him twice the life span of the average gaurdsman who's boots touch a battlefield.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)23:13 No.8040799
    I lol'd.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)23:18 No.8040881
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    Mother fucking Necrons
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)23:21 No.8040924
    While Matthew Ward is far too much of an Ultrasmurf fanboy to ever have intended this, I would love to see it happen. His bitch tears would be delicious.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)23:26 No.8041009
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)23:33 No.8041123
    Excellent. Forever after, should similar arguments arise, we can point back to this day and note that Roboute Guilliman himself was the one who ripped the cloak of dignity off of the tableaux of heresy and treason that lies at the very heart of the Ultramarines.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)23:34 No.8041150
    And that Eldrad is a dick...
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)23:37 No.8041187
    Everyone knew that already.
    >> Marneus Calgar 02/11/10(Thu)23:39 No.8041237

    I care not what twisted justifications you made to excuse your blasphemies, but know that Imperium was always a tool, tool to ensure Mankind follows the right direction.

    A tool which could be wielded by only the Emperor, and after Him, the great Primarch and his heirs.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/11/10(Thu)23:40 No.8041258
    Yeah, you don't have to be a psycher to see that.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/10(Thu)23:44 No.8041336
    Unfortunately, the Great Primarchs are all either dead, busy, or corrupted by Chaos.

    Many things the Rowboat is, and we've named quite a few of them here. But "great" most certainly isn't one of them. Except if you discuss the degree of his treachery, which is great indeed.
    >> Marneus Calgar 02/11/10(Thu)23:54 No.8041500

    The only traitors here are the ones who cannot or refuse to see that to go against the workings of Roboute Guilliman is to go against the very framework of the Imperium and that of the the Adeptus Astartes, save for some minor aberrations ever closer to fading into history.

    Indeed, to defy the Scions of Ultramar is to defy the destiny of Mankind itself.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/12/10(Fri)00:01 No.8041615
    Someone sure is full of himself, and full of shit. Wow, I think I'm going to have to get this power armor deep cleaned it's getting so deep in here.
    >> Anonymous 02/12/10(Fri)00:01 No.8041625
    No, to defy the Scions of Ultramar is to allow Mankind to have not a destiny, but a FUTURE.

    You would set our fate in stone, a fate of millennia more of dissipation and collapse to echo and eclipse the ten millennia of decay you have already sponsored.

    I would see Humanity break free of your shackles and return to what the Emperor willed it to be: a million variant strands of joyous life, striving not for his own glory but for the glory of Mankind itself.

    And your hubris is what shall cause your fall, as every other pack of petty tyrants has fallen throughout human history. For our potential cannot be denied, no matter how hard your ilk might try.
    >> Veteran Sergeant Aeril 02/12/10(Fri)00:03 No.8041656
    Agreed. Have you ever attempted to get shit out of a Cyclone Missile Launcher? It's not the most enjoyable of past times.
    >> Anonymous 02/12/10(Fri)00:06 No.8041707
    No, probably because I've never actually stuffed an Ultramarine into one before firing it.

    Although I must admit it's become much more tempting as of late.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/12/10(Fri)00:08 No.8041741
    Funny I think I heard Dante saying stuff like that. Must be true, since you know he knew the Emperor.
    Brother we are in agreement. Which chapter are you with again? Perhaps we shall have to get drinks sometime.
    >> Veteran Sergeant Aeril 02/12/10(Fri)00:12 No.8041820
    They'll fight you kicking and screaming the whole way, but once you get them in there, they fly to the opposite end of the battle faster than they did during the heresy.
    Dark Angels First Company, good Brother Captain.
    >> Ferrus Manus 02/12/10(Fri)00:15 No.8041870
    While you're at it, tell my chapter to find my head, assuming they haven't already, and if they HAVE found it, tell them to reattach it.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/12/10(Fri)00:16 No.8041895
    Blood Knights 4th Company, Veteran Sargent. 4th founding Successors to the Noble Blood Angels.
    >> Veteran Sergeant Aeril 02/12/10(Fri)00:18 No.8041929
    As I recall, they found your head and put it on display, then lost your body.
    >> Marneus Calgar 02/12/10(Fri)00:19 No.8041937

    Say what you will, the words of traitors may subvert the will of lesser men but the grand designs of the Primarch and the Emperor will stay intact, as they have ever done. This freedom you speak of is blatantly of the kind your brethren enjoy in the Eye.

    Some of the words spoken by the mutineers also dimly remind me of Dorn, and how he tried to justify keeping his Legion intact, his attempts to pull the nascent Imperium into another civil war and the suspicious account of what happened in Horus' capital ship at the Heresy's ending.
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/12/10(Fri)00:23 No.8042025
    Oh you better step carefully.
    >> Ferrus Manus. 02/12/10(Fri)00:24 No.8042049
    Yeaahh..... Lost it....
    I never agreed with Dorn on that matter, the smaller chapters were a good idea, it's what me and my iron hands have always done. The Space marines, not my actual hands. And overall the codex was a good idea, as a guideline. Following it's dogma gets good men killed, It's stagnant, our enemies update their tactics, you use the same ones. For Ten Thousand years.
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    hay guise wats goin on in this thread
    >> Brother Captain Van Jaeger Blood Knights 02/12/10(Fri)00:29 No.8042133
    That is true, eventually if you keep pulling the same tricks our enemies will learn them. While not quite as grand as humanity, we are not going into to battle with the mentally handicapped well with the exception of the Orks, though even they are learning.
    >> Anonymous 02/12/10(Fri)00:30 No.8042138

    Is there one of these of Mortarion?
    >> Anonymous 02/12/10(Fri)00:31 No.8042157
    >> Commissar Skathwelter 02/12/10(Fri)00:31 No.8042163
    Hey guys what's going on in this WHOOOAAaaaah, hey, excuse me, I'll just be off then.
    >> Anonymous 02/12/10(Fri)00:31 No.8042169
    I just realised, of the 8 loyalist chapters, the Raven Guard, and Iron hands get the least amount of love. Does Raven Guard even have a single special model from GW? Iron hands at least have their book, and their incredibly expensive spess mahrene squad.
    >> Anonymous 02/12/10(Fri)00:34 No.8042199

    One internet to you, kind Anon.
    >> Anonymous 02/12/10(Fri)00:35 No.8042220
    hahaha whoops. Wrong thread.
    >> Veteran Sergeant Aeril 02/12/10(Fri)00:41 No.8042299
    Oh... Um... Well now... It seems there's a guy in robes over there... Um... I'm gonna go check that out. I'll see you guys later. No, no, nothing big, you guys just stay here.

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