Is it morally wrong to eat a centaur?
Only the top half.
>>74175007If it can speak a language I can understand, I consider it immoral to eat it.
>>74175007What a fucking retarded question. You probably couldn't even explain why eating humans is "morally wrong".>Is it morally wrong to kill a centaur for the purpose of eating it?There, fixed it.
>>74175007Hold up, is this image suggesting that centaur mouths are in their hooves?Because that's incredibly retarded.
>>74175047So you'd eat a Chinese man?
If they're sapient enough to have a cannibalism-taboo themselves, it probably isn't kosher to eat them.
>>74175108It's like the Andalites from Animorphs.
>>74175219pretty sure he'd eat me given the opportunity, so it's only fair
>>74175066>why eating humans is "morally wrong".prion disease / Kuru
>>74175007What a fucking retarded question. You probably couldn't even explain why eating humans is "morally wrong".>"Is it morally wrong to eat out a centaur?"There. Fixed it.
>>74175007In Pathfinder, a centaur is a "monstrous humanoid," so it would be immoral for a human to eat one. However, in DnD, a centaur is a "monstrosity," so you're in the clear.
>>74175465Just don't eat brains
>>74175007It's probably got diarrhea magic in it or something, I don't want to eat fucking fantasy creatures.
>>74175465That makes it stupid and self-destructive. It doesn't make it "wrong".
>>74175007>Is it morally wrong to eat...?Yes.
>>74175396That doesn't make it not retarded.
>>74175465I remember that this manga is adorable but I can't remember what it's called.
>>74175924Isn't morality just glorified set of basic survival rules meant to benefit both individuals and the group?
>>74175007They and other non human sapients fall under the at least it’s not us eating level
Eating anything that can suffer is immoral.
>>74175981>adorableI mean as far as I can tell they are all consenting adults and they are all very much into it, so there's that. But still... [Mado] Taberu Hito Araba
I fucking hate centaurs. I have always hated centaurs. I remember being pissed off that there were centaurs in Harry Potter when I first read it. I will NEVER be able to suspend my disbelief enough to accept spines that bend at 90° angles. And seeing you degenerates try to sublimate your horse fucking impulses with "monstergirls" has only made me hate centaurs more. It's still bestiality you sick fucks.
>>74176128>spines that bend at 90° anglesSnakes do it, or at least appear to. I'm sure something can be worked out.
>>74175007No. It’s only morally wrong to eat humans, and it might be medically inadvisable to elves or dwarves due to the possibility of communicable diseases. Everything else is fair game.
>>74176128True, but horse anuses are self cleaning. Imagine sticking your dick inside a self cleaning centaur asshole. It'd be an experience.
>>74175007>Is it morally wrong to eat a centaur?It's better then maggoty bread.
>>74175465That's a practical objection, not a moral one.
>>74176559>that's the joke.jpg
>>74175007No>>74175066Also no. Centaurs aren't human. If it isn't 100% human DNA it is not human, so it's okay to kill or torture for any reason, including on reason at all. Humans should not harm one another if they can help it because human life is wonderful and precious and everything else belongs to us and only holds value by what humanity can use it for. Killing and eating animals, aliens, angels, literally everything else is free game and shouldn't be protected by morality whatsoever.>>74176024I disagree with you wholeheartedly, I think only human suffering matters. I will freely admit I am unapologetically speciesist and see no value in non-human life whatsoever. In fact, non-human suffering can sometimes make food taste better. Like veal, for instance. God, I love me some veal, haven't had any in years but my grandma's veal is some of the best stuff I've eaten in my life.>>74175047That's dumb, deaf and mute people are people too, even though they can't speak, and they should be cared for and supported. In fact, one of my cousins is mute due to childhood illnesses fucking up his brain and his throat.
>>74176762>That's dumb, deaf and mute people are people too, even though they can't speak,
>>74175007What about Centaur babies?
>>74176762Needlessly inflicting cruelty on animals is a commonly accepted sign of psychosis, anon.
>>74176815Yeah, but it's an okay psychosis in my opinion. If you have to be a sadist or a sociopath, at least go hurt things that aren't people.
>>74176840>Yeah, but it's an okay psychosis in my opinionThat's not how psychosis works.
>>74176859All right, I worded it wrong, it is an okay outlet to express psychosis in my opinion. There, are you happy now, Mr. Semantics?
>>74176892>it is an okay outlet to express psychosis in my opinionIt's an okay sign that someone should be sectioned.
>>74176936Nah, as long as they're not hurting any people or anyone else's property, let them be.
>>74177026>Person commits action clearly indicative of being a psychopath>'lol nah we shouldn't worry about that'that's how you get john wayne gacy.
>>74177245Maybe, but I think it's right for people to mind their own business if someone isn't really hurting other people. John Wayne Gacy was a sick man who needed help and never got the help he needed, sadly, but maybe if it was more socially acceptable to buy feeder rats and torture them with knives, and there were clubs and organizations devoted to supporting and encouraging people like him, he might not have ever killed any people and stuck to just torturing rats with his friends. When people are silent about their darker desires they fester and burn at the mind, but when they are open about it, they can be encouraged to express it in an acceptable way. To me, torturing animals for fun is perfectly acceptable.
>>74176762kysYou would be doing everyone a favor
>>74177406>Maybe, but I think it's right for people to mind their own business if someone isn't really hurting other peopleWhen a pyromaniac burns an abandoned shed, you don't ignore it because the indulgence of those compulsions inevitably lead to burning shit that isn't abandoned. When someone's torturing small animals, you section them before they move onto torturing small children.
>>74177635Nah you give them all the animals and sheds to torture/burn that they want and like-minded individuals to publicly do it with so they don't move on to children and actual buildings. you get a built in support group and peer pressure to stay within the realm of the law.>>74177608People should really only kill themselves as a way to die with dignity in the face of debilitating diseases, anon.
>>74177406>but when they are open about it, they can be encouraged to express it in an acceptable way.They can also be encouraged to push the boundaries on what counts as "acceptable".
>>74178073>Giving a pyromaniac all the material they want to burn is totally gonna make him want to burn houses lessIf you can't understand the fundamental reasons behind 'torturing small animals is bad and leads to torturing other things', you're probably never gonna get it and should seek help.
>>74178095I guess, but letting people be open about it also means the public can see it and monitor just how far those boundaries are pushed.>>74178168>I should seek helpWhy? I live a normal life I enjoy with friends and a job. Nothing I do interferes with being a functional member of society. I don't even torture vertebrates, I just sort of wish I could and see nothing wrong with it, but respect the laws of my nation and abide by them as best I can and for those reasons, refrain from torturing vertebrates. But really, I see those laws as pointless, but a pointless rule should still be followed.
>>74178287> I don't even torture vertebrates, I just sort of wish I could and see nothing wrong with it, but respect the laws of my nation and abide by them as best I can and for those reasons, refrain from torturing vertebrates. But really, I see those laws as pointless, but a pointless rule should still be followed.While i understand and can appreciate that you might be able to limit yourself, others will most definitely not be able to. Not everyone who feels the way you do is a super psychopath, but more often then not a lack of empathy for even small animals, even with therapy, is actually still very dangerous because more often then not that shit spirals. and at what point do we stop and say don't do that? Torturing rats isn't too far away from squirrels, and that isn't too far away from cats. Dogs are a quick hop after that.Now i'm not trying to be combative, i just personally find most of this shit just wrong. Not that i can't stomach it, I've seen some fucked shit. It's mostly just needless violence at the expense of something that was doing you no harm more times than not. kinda just picking your brain. (Pun not entirely intended)
>>74175007It’s immoral to eat any animal
>>74178863Or plant 2bh
I'm writing a one-nighter MtA about a bunch of exquisite strangers invited for a dinner at a submarine restaurant.The chef promoting the dinner is a young, legendary prodigy known for only cooking twice a year for the richest and most powerful people on Earth. He uses nigh inexistant rare ingredients, and the dinners happen on different places every time: an abandoned factory dangerously close to the Chernobyl site, the top of a clock tower, the bottom of the ocean. The chef tried to kill himself three years before the game takes place, for unknown reasons and in macabre ways. This is his great comeback.All courses are announced through speakers, and only before the main course the Chef appears, to prepare the meat in front of the guests. He reveals a young female satyr trapped in cage, and proceeds to kill her and cook her into a dish.The trick here is that the satyr doesn't act or communicate like a human, yet looks and demonstrates emotions much akin a scared human being.
>>74178844>at what point do we stop and say don't do that? Torturing rats isn't too far away from squirrels, and that isn't too far away from cats. Dogs are a quick hop after that.You draw the line at humans, obviously. I don;t see anything wrong with torturing a dog for fun, as long as it's your dog, you should be able to do whatever you want to it. And it;s not that I lack sympathy (the word you are looking for is sympathy. Empathy is where you've actually gone through the same shit. Sympathy is where you haven't and can only imagine. If you have been tortured in the past you can say you feel empathy for tortured rats, while if you've never actually been tortured it is sympathy. Big difference and everyone misuses it like they think they're interchangeable or something, just a pet peeve of mine.), I just choose not to feel it for non-humans. Sympathy/Empathy is like a light switch, when you're in control of your emotions you can turn it on and off at will. Or at least I can, I don't know if other people do but I'm totally capable of turning it on and off whenever I want.>It's mostly just needless violence at the expense of something that was doing you no harm more times than not.But if the needless violence isn't directed at a human then it;s okay, I see no moral reason a non-human's life should matter.
>>74176762Sounds like your cousin got the better deal between what he and you suffered.
>>74179791Lol I'm not suffering at all though?
>>74179883Better physically crippled then mentally.
>>74175219They have to be of nutritional value too
>>74175007>Detached from their digestive systemThen how the fuck do they get food into their system in the first place
>>74181373I think the idea is they eat through their hooves, but it's explained so badly that it almost seems the artist was avoiding the topic.
>>74179341I'm very curious about your way of thinking if you're not larping, what do you find in humans that you value so much that you would let animal be totured just for the fun of one individualWhat if we uplifted some species to reach human level intelligence, would you still consider torturing them then ? What if there existed a species that is better than humanity in every way, would you be ok with them torturing humans ? Would it be ok to torture them ? Do you value humanity highly just because you're human yourself, and not for any grand reason ?
>>74176892Why would we your opinion:>as a mentally ill person pearly feigning psychosisMatter? Euthanize yourself.
>>74176762>DNA>in a fantasy setting
>>74176559Unless someone feels it's morally wrong to risk giving themselves a prion disease
>>74178073The brain doesn't work like that. It wants More and New. See porn. And feed back (from "support groups" and "likeminded") leads to legitimising, which leads to bigger and better. See fucking 4chan. The pressure cooker theory is retarded 19th century bollocks and needs to be thrown in the dustbin of garbage ideas already. With the rest of Freud.
>>74175066where tf you gonna get your humanburger, anon? there's your morality test.
>muh animal tortureYou can’t torture animals. They don’t have souls. They’re automata.
>>74175038Not sure how this didnt get an fpbp
>>74176128Here's the obligatory answer to your pasta as usual.
>>74175465>Kuru>Only seen in a small population in a specific part of the world
>>74175007>instead the mouth constricts into a tight orifice directly behind the gums
>>74183902How do you know that ?
>>74179341>I don't see anything wrong with making an innocent being that has done no harm to me suffer a long, cruel and pointless death. You're the reason that mental asylums need to exist. I'm not saying that to be insulting, you have an actual sickness that you vehemently refuse to believe is a sickness and thus you won't seek help. But we can't just kill you, because as you're quick to point out, human life is universally deemed precious and thus it's immoral to kill you. The best compromise both to you but more so to society is to put you in a straightjacket, lock you in a padded room and just keep feeding and watering you until you die on your own. A day I think cannot come fast enough. And yes, that one *was* meant to be insulting, you morally bankrupt freak.
>>74175007I love how the spine makes a sharp turn.
>>74175219A Chinese man can eat you.
>>74176762When has human suffering ever mattered to anyone but their loved ones? I don't give a shit if some random retard gets ran over by a train, for instance.
>>74175007Why is it wrong to eat humans? Because humans are sapient and thus not animals. Obviously a centaur is sapient, so eating one is wrong. >>74176128Why is banging a human not bestiality? Humans are animals aren't they? Because a human is sapient, thus not a beast. If centaurs are thinking creatures that use tools, speak language, and etc banging one isn't bestiality; they are not an animal. It's just xenophilia at that point. Also, you are Autistic about spines. If anything, you should have been concerned about how the lungs of a Centaur work.
>>74183902>muh human tortureYou can’t torture humans. They don’t have souls. They’re automata.
>>74184587It's still a horse ass you're sticking your dick into. Maybe if I was living in a fantasy world where Centaurs are decent people I wouldn't judge someone for being in a relationship with one, but in the real world centaurs don't exist so obviously I'm going to condemn a guy for wanting to fuck a centaur because it's basically wanting to fuck a realistic ass horse's anus. If the monstergirl's groin area is clearly beastly I'm gonna judge someone for basically wanting to fuck an animal's crotch with a human head and tits.
>>74182633Human life is valuable because it;s human life. Like i said in an earlier post, I ma blatantly speciesist. If another species was uplifted to human intelligence I'd still be okay with torturing it for fun simply because it is not human. In fact, if we discovered aliens tomorrow that were vastly smarter than humans I'd believe they should be exterminated or enslaved at the first opportunity. If species was better than humanity in every way I would not be okay with them torturing humans, and I would in fact be all for their enslavement and extermination.Yes, I value humanity so highly because i am one myself, been looking for a grand reason to justify it in the past but eventually decided I don't need one and the need to justify your opinions with grand reasons like that is simply a sign of lack of conviction.>>74183902Yeah you can. If it feels pain then it can be tortured, doesn't matter if it has a soul or not.>>74184395Not going to happen, friend. Sorry. And non-humans can't be innocent, innocence only applies to humans.>>74184438Well, I care a little. Those kind of news stories about people dying in terrible accidents are kind of sad. Not as much impact on me because I didn't personally know them, but enough to make me stop reading for a moment and think about it.
>>74176762I know you're not serious but I can't work out if you're just trolling or if you're some kind of vegan activist trying to make a point.
>>74175007We discussed something similar, is it okay to eat a goblin? We have 2 goblins in our party
>>74185652>i value humanity so highly because I am one myselfthat's not specism my guy that's just your fucking ego. you're doing this 40k circlejerk schtick about how humanity's so super awesome that it gives you all the justification you need to stick knives in dogs and enslave hypothetical aliens but the truth is we're no different than pretty much any other mammal on the planet. we come into existence, we do nothing of any universal significance for not even a blip on the cosmic radar than we die. poof, gone. the mighty human, tremble before his majesty. you just think you're hot shit and that you should be allowed to do what you like, even if what you like is, ironically, inhumane. you think you should be above the rules, above consequences.
>>74175007Here's the paradox.If it's morally wrong to eat them, it's morally right to fuck them. Vice versa.
>>74182741I've got a player who fucking demands that DNA exist in my game with paladins whose magical power comes from only their oversimping an idea. How best should I tell this Ackchyually™ brand nerd to fuck off? >Inb4 "Fuck off, nerd"
>>74178287You forgot to mention you stretch and don’t engage in fights, but wouldn’t lose to anyone in your main antagonist reveal monologue
>>74185652How much (viable) DNA scrambling do you need to apply on someone to consider them non human and elligible for torture ? Were neanderthals humans ? What about elves, dwarves and other human-looking fantasy species ?
>>74185652>been looking for a grand reason to justify it in the past but eventually decided I don't need oneSeems like you stopped thinking when it stopped going your way
ITT: a failed psycho scared of asylums an the government tries to justify his inhuman urges by lauding the beauty of mankind. The irony is lost on him.
>>74175007It's only wrong if you stop before they finish
>>74175270fair point, though obviously mermaids would be koshers no matter how advanced their culture is
>>74185652Senpai if you're literally only capable of caring about something because of its relation to yourself then you're a textbook Narcissist, not a "Speciesist."
>>74185652>Non-humans can't be innocent>LARPing IoM this hardHow many ~~Reichsadler~~ Imperial Aquilas do you own?
>>74175007Only if you didn't beat him in a fight first, seeing as he can object to being eaten
>>74176762Your cousins go to the pot
>>74175219He'd have to be at least chubby, like that guy who put on a whole other person in weight over quarantine
>>74176762Great another psycho
>>74185960To be fair, he's not saying humans are the best, just that he is one and thus he values them the mostI mean, he's still fucked up, but don't misrepresent him
>>74185960>>74189621I thought that was a pretty accurate summation. Man puts knives in dogs. Not many other ways about it. Seems like a guy who thinks HFY is the only valid writing prompt
>>74185960>We're no differentExactly, I'm drawing an arbitrary line in the sand at "humanity", there is nothing that makes us special. I never said we're super awesome. I never said we are god's gift to the universe. I said I value human life over all else. Why? I don't think I need a reason why, as i already stating, needing a reason just shows you don't truly believe in what you believe.>>74186370It has to be 100% pure human. I'm not up on Neaderthal biology. Did they have 100% human DNA? I know they can mix with humans, but then again horses and donkeys can mix and they're not the same thing. >>74186515Eh, not really, I never really felt like it wasn't going my way, more more like I decided it was unnecessary. It's like Radical Doubt. I have no proof the world isn't an illusion and we all live inside someone else's imagination, but I believe the world is real anyway. I have no proof the universe isn't an elaborate computer game that brainwashes its subjects to think it's real. I have no proof anyone actually turns into ghosts when they die, but I still believe in ghosts. Same thing applies here. I don't need proof or justification to believe in human superiority.>>74189168Oh on, I'm totally capable of feeling for non-humans i just choose not to because I can turn sympathy on and off like a light switch. It's called "Being in control of your emotions".>>74189374I don't know what any of this is. I had to look up what a reichsadler aquilas was. Is this osme kind of warhammer eagle thing? I don't play warhammer, the /tg/ things I play are Magic the Gathering, DnD, and several board games. I started to read the rules of warhammer once and it sounded really tedious and dull, just couldn't get into it.>>74186563But I never said mankind is beautiful, I said everything else is worthless. And I explicitly said it doesn't need to be justified. I don't think beliefs and opinions need to be justified.
>>74175066Its a dick move
>>74175007Morality is relative to culture and society
>>74175007If it's not human, it's food, or a sextoy.I don't care what the impure and subhumans consume.
>>74189849>Sex with non-humansSounds like you're vastly degrading yourself, human sperm is too good for anything but a human female or a gay human male. Animals don't deserve your wonderful seed.
>>74189778>I don't know 40k>I came to these conclusions naturallyI...Is that you Helbrecht??Reading this feels like it sums up as "Feelings don't care about your facts." I like you Shen Bapiro, you can stick a knife in my dog any day.Also this dude's a clinical psychopath who's arbitrarily chosen HFY as his mantra. Are you guys gonna call the FBI on him or should I? I wanna see how many neighborhood cats he has strung up in his basement
>>74189954My name isn't Helbrecht. I don't kill cats because it;s against the law and I respect the laws of my nation even when I do not agree with them. I do torture invertebrates, though.
>>74179341>Empathy is where you've actually gone through the same shit. Sympathy is where you haven't and can only imagineempathy is relating either through having experienced or just imagining the emotions of another. sympathy is feeling pity or remorse for someone.
>>74175007>Is it morally wrong to eat a centaur?which half?
>>74189778>It has to be 100% pure human. I'm not up on Neaderthal biology. Did they have 100% human DNA? I know they can mix with humans, but then again horses and donkeys can mix and they're not the same thing.>Whites and Asians aren’t human>Africans are
>>74190168I spose that's fair, octopi and mushrooms lack the moral conviction and gumption of vertebrates right?Listen Himmler, I want you to meet my sister. You two would make great Aryan babies. She's only an entomologist to figure out how to pull them apart best so they suffer longer. I think you guys'd be a great pair
>>74190615I'm not aryan though. At least not in the neo-nazi bullshit sense, they'd say I'm not even white because most of my heritage is slavic. My skin is pretty pale though, so I consider myself white. However your sister might be cool, bugs are fascinating, I used to collect them, kill them, and mount their bodies on a styrofoam board as a kid, wasn't even a class project, I did it for fun after I saw my uncle's bug collection he did for school and thought it was cool as hell. Labelled them all too and read books to know exactly what I was killing and where to find more like them. Kept it for a while until a mouse broke into my house and ate most of them, never really got into it again after that.>>74190463I'm not sure I follow you here? Africans, white people, and Asains are all human.
>>74190853he's referencing the fact that "Humans" started of in Africa, where they then spread out from and bred with other homosapien off shoots.
>>74175007centaurs as magical beings or parasitic monsters make the most sense
>>74191166Nah, everyone alive today is human. I'm not all about the semantics and details, if we have to fudge it a little it's all right. I'm not really into science and pre-history. If you subscribe to evolution, everyone had a non-human ancestor somewhere along the line. But those non-human ancestors are long dead and totally irrelevant to me. Neanderthals are pretty much extinct. I seriously doubt you could get a bunch of people together with Neanderthal DNA to make a Neanderthal breeding program to try and "Breed Back" Neanderthals out of human stock. So it's not really Neanderthal DNA anymore, it's human DNA now.
>>74175007Only the top half.
>>74191609It really does sound like you are about semantics though. Zoological classification like homo sapiens and homo neanderthalis are more like scopes of dna. It's not like you can look at one strand and it's [Human] and another from the same body and it's [Not-Human]. They're all within a certain tolerance of center that we label as human. You say you're fine with having no real reason or fact based thinking as it shows your "conviction." That's the dumbest thing I've heard all goddamn day. You're a fuckin trog who may understand he's dumber than the average, yet further rejects any kind of higher cognitive thought or critical thinking. You're worse than the well meaning but ignorant, you're intentionally stupid when you don't have to be. Rejecting the idea that your opinions should have a fact basis especially when you're justifying your hobbies of mutilation and killing animals is fucking psychotic. "Being able to turn off" emotion centers in your brain isn't control or being intelligent, it's literal textbook psychopathy. You're an animal and should be put in a zoo for study. It's obvious that you have some kind of raw intelligence, but you're so clouded by arbitrary lines of morality manifested from your own sickness that you're unable to use it. Either commit yourself to an institution where they might give you a butterfly a day to pull apart to quell your inherent torture instinct, or join the rest of us in a society that looks at things subjectively and tries to get along.
>>74192330Hundreds of people form opinions without basis on fact. That's what religion is all about, isn't it? While I'm not exactly a religious person, I do believe in god, just as I do believe in ghosts. What makes my belief in human supremacy any different than believing in god? Both have no real basis on fact, but are believed anyway.And I will not commit myself to an institution, I think it would be bad for me. I don't think there is anything broken with me, so there wouldn't be anything to fix. Then they'd look for shit to fix and give me drugs (I am a firm anti-drug person, I do not even drink and do not ever alter my conscious with chemicals in any way, I consider being on psych meds a form of non-sobriety, which I never want to do, I'd like to always be sober my entire life if I can help it, I've only been drunk once, hated every second of it, hope it never happens to me again). I am not a danger to other humans. I am a danger to small animals, but I don't believe their lives or suffering matters in the slightest. There's nothing you can really do to change my mind. If it's a problem that needs to be fixed then who's it hurting?
>>74193111Bud you've got a lot of cognitive circles in there. I don't have a PhD or any real credentials to break down how your whole worldview is a lil skewed. >>74189168>Senpai if you're literally only capable of caring about something because of its relation to yourself then you're a textbook Narcissist, not a "Speciesist."Read this guy's post. Then read it again. Then go read about narcissism. It's a lot different than you probably think. I'm fairly certain your "objectivity" is a pretty clear sign you might have some symptoms of it. Also the belief that medication is wrong for you, since you don't think anything's wrong.>Also wasn't this thread about centaurs?
>>74175219If I wanted to catch a million diseases, sure.
>>74175007you aren't supposed to eat beasts of burden
>>74175007No way man, I eat centaur all the time. You can trust me, can't you?
>>74193207>Also wasn't this thread about centaurs?Reading this lunatics ramblings is more interesting.
>>74193111>I am not a danger to other humans. I am a danger to small animals, but I don't believe their lives or suffering matters in the slightest. There's nothing you can really do to change my mind. If it's a problem that needs to be fixed then who's it hurting?Me, reading your posts is causing me physical pain, the only cure for it is causing you physical pain.
>>74184091>THIS THING THAT SPREADS VIA CANNIBALISM IS VERY RARE BECAUSE IT ONLY OCCURS AMONG CANNIBALSjesus christ anon
>>74193207But I'm not objective, this is all my opinion. I'm not saying it;s wrong for other people to value non-human life, just saying I don't and that I don't think anyone else should either. But everyone else is their own person and free to think whatever they want. I still don't think anything is wrong with me. I looked into narcissism, and I don't think I have it. It says narcissists lack empathy for others (I only turn off empathy for animals, and can turn it on and off at will), view others as inferior (I love humans, I only view animals as inferior), boasts of my achievements (I don't do this, I am a rather private person and would never tell anyone of this if this board weren't anonymous, in fact anonymity is the main reason I love 4chan), Mood swings when criticized (I don't do this either, I take criticism really well and do my best to be a team player at work), and always craves "the best" (I don't do this either), excessive urge for admiration (I don't really do this either, in fact I expect most people to hate me upon meeting me and am pleasantly surprised when they don't). This doesn't really sound like me. A few superficial similarities, but that's it.>>74193545That is self-inflicted pain, my friend. No one is holding you down and forcing you to read my posts. It's entirely your decision. I respect your free will and your desire to grow angry and read what I write but it probably isn't good for you if it makes you feel actual pain.
>>74193545>>74193111Also I identify as a small animal, soooooo
>>74194056Why on earth would you do that? I have a really hard time respecting you if you do. You're not a small animal, you're a person.
>>74194025>Confirmed psychopathYour honor, I would like to present exhibit A in my client's defense.He's clearly completely nuts.
>>74194076>Being this obtuse
>If you disagree with me, you're a narcissistic psychopath buzzword and need to be "sectioned", god save the queen!!1!one!1!!>>74194091That shit isn't even in the fucking DSM-V anymore because even the hacks of psychiatry realized it became a worthless fucking meaningless buzzword. Instead, they replaced it with something that further emphasizes its purpose as a means of ostracizing those that don't blindly follow the collective.
>>74194119No really, I don't get it? Not being obtuse, just been on the internet a long time.There are weird furries out there that really do identify as small animals. I've gamed with some of them in the past. /tg/ does in fact have furries on it thanks to the popularity of Volo's Guide, Pathfinder, etc. How do I know he really doesn't identify as a small animal?
>>74194025At what point is a human not a human anymore, considering bionics. If I replace 50% of a human with machinery will your arbitrary line be crossed? What about if I replace everything but the human brain? In the case where you would still consider a human brain in a vat to be human, what if I showed you an alien brain in a vat that looks just like a human brain and told you it was a human brain. Would you still blindly worship the alien scum pretending to be human? Arbitrarily hard coded morals are a weakness for this reason
>>74186194How about fluffing it like this: souls are a magical blueprint of a person and they direct all the matter in a person to the proper place at the right time. DNA doesn't exist because cells don't exist and that's the reason healing potions/spells work at all: they do the same healing that a person's soul does when you get a cut but at a much faster rate. Using one of those healing things on a being which operates on DNA would not accomplish anything.
>>74194804If it's a human brain in a vat, as long as it's a living human brain, it's human to me. A person on a ventilator who can't breathe is still a human. That can still be applied to a theoretical person who has a machine do more than just breathe for them. So yes, a human brain in a vat is still a human.>what if I showed you an alien brain in a vat that looks just like a human brain and told you it was a human brainThen you lied to me and it's an alien brain. Not sure I understand the point you're trying to make with that one. Is this like a "Good Samaritan" type story where the guy learned not to hate Samaritans because one was nice to him and he didn't know he was a filthy Samaritan until after the fact? Like are you trying to say "If you thought this brain in a vat was a human brain and treated it well, and then found out later it was an alien brain would you still be okay with torturing it?"If so, the answer is yes. To me, it is okay to mistreat non-humans as much as you want, including betray them. But I might be getting the wrong idea from your question and you meant something else?
>>74195041Fuckin brilliant, thanks bud. Definitely gonna use that
>>74175108>>74181373>>74181512It's literally the most retarded idea I've ever heard for Centaurs.
>>74195191I meant more like that instead of assessing the alien brain based on what it thinks or says you would asses it based on what I told you it’s species was. In that way I can trick you into supporting the things you don’t want to support because you don’t have case by case thinking. Most people will judge a sentient thing by the content of its character instead of species and I can’t trick them into supporting it if it has poor character because they can just talk to the brain and see for themselves. You don’t have that luxury because you can’t tell somethings species just by talking to it and you have to trust my lie. This means that your arbitrary standards are less applicable than normal people arbitrary standards and therefore hold you back
>>74197893I'm not sure I see what you're getting at. The content of an alien's character doesn't matter, it's an alien. If I think it's a human one second and treat it like a friend you'd better believe I'd stop caring about its well being as soon as I find out it's not an alien. That doesn't mean i'd mindlessly stab it in the back though, I'm friends with my mom's pet dogs and don't mindlessly torture them, but I'll freely admit I'd feel nothing if they died horrible painful deaths. Well, scratch that, it'd probably make my mom sad because she loves them so I'd feel bad for her but nothing for the actual dogs. And you say I can be tricked into supporting things I don't want? But can't everyone be tricked into doing that? If you judge an alien brain in a jar by the content of its character, you could be lied to that he's a generous being and loves everyone and then find out later he raped and killed six little boys last year. Kind and generous people can do evil shit too, and lies can cover it up (Remember how surprised everyone was when OJ Simpson got arrested for murder? He was considered a good-hearted family -friendly celebrity before that. Turns out he was a cold blooded killer.) Everyone can be lied to, no matter how they choose to judge people. Your point still doesn't quite register for me. Is there something I'm missing here?
>>74198125If I was lying to you about the character of the alien, the way you would figure that out is by talking to it and determining for yourself if it’s trustworthy. But you can’t do anything to find the true species of the brain so you’re stuck taking my word.My point is pretty much that you can be manipulated much easier than other people can in this scenario because you don’t have a flexible standard of judging sentient creatures. Obviously this scenario isn’t gonna impact your life at all but it’s a thought experiment showing why your ideology isn’t as good as what the average person has. Whether or not you’re cool with that is up to you of course
>>74199551But I don't view all people as trustworthy. I love humanity but that doesn't mean I'll go out at night in a bad neighborhood and expect not to be mugged. People can be bad too. Humans can still be judged by the content of their character, it's must that I view all non-humans as inherently guilty (of the "crime" of not being human).
>>74199684Even so, you could be lead to act in a way you normally wouldn’t. Say you have to decide if the alien has to live or die because of a space crime it committed. Everyone who thinks the crime is abhorrent would just say yeah he should die regardless of his species. However if you think he’s a human you might be a little more lenient with him than if you knew he wasn’t (in which case you’d instantly let him die). The people who judge the culprit by actions can only be tricked if they’re lied to about the action, which would defeat the point of everything. Your process is a lot slower than theirs because you can be lied to about something that has nothing to do with the crime and that will impede your decision making. I just think it’s smarter to judge by actions here and ignore the species of the brain (meaning that even if we were lied to, it wouldn’t matter), which you would not be able to do. The one case where your style of thinking is the best way to think is if we are accusing the alien of being born an alien. If we compare this to real life, it is more likely that you will be on a jury to look over the crime someone has committed instead of being on a jury to look over if someone was born with 7 ribs. In a human centric world, actions are more valued and prioritised than birth circumstances. Good chat though your worldview is interesting to think about
>>74199684Since you can turn off your emotions at will, why don't you do it for humans too
>>74200036Because I like humans and think I would lose some of my humanity if I didn't relate to them anymore.>>74200018I don't think I'd be more lenient on a criminal because he is a human though. There are rotten humans just like there are good ones. I don't think humans are these special golden things that can do no wrong, I just think everything else is okay to exploit and torture. Evil humans should still be punished, obviously. I do in fact believe in justice.
>>74175007yes but I would eat around the human parts personally
>>74200120The way I understand it, if an alien does a robbery or something you’d say sure kill it it is a nuisance and who cares what it thinks But if a human did it you would be more sympathetic and probably not murder it in cold bloodThis means you put the species before the crime which doesn’t really work in our society where we are taught to judge on actions and not birthright, so your ideology separates you from the average member of the species you loveDoesn’t sound like a happy way of life to me
>>74194256This guy is like the opposite of me.I think people like you should be shot in the skull with a cattle gun and forgotten about. I'd love to plow you full of drinks and listen to you explain your sick outlook and then shoot a rod into your brain when you pass out.It's always degenerate fucks who espouse libertarian beliefs as a way to shield their fucked up fantasies. How many people that above all advocate for personal freedom turn out to be paedophiles or other types of creeps. If there were any justice in the world sick sadistic freaks like you would be enemy number one of society. You are fundamentally at odds with everyone here because people value humanity, not humans. I also don't even for a second believe you care about humans at all, you don't kill because you know you can't get away with it. Sadism only develops more in a person who fantasises or practices it, why rip the legs off a daddy long legs when a dog can express its pain. Why kick a dog to death when a human can communicate it's pain and beg for mercy. People say they want you locked away somewhere because killing you is distasteful, but anyone here would rather hear you were hit by a speeding train then hear you were put in a looney bin.
>>74200290I sort of see what you're getting at now. But I'm okay with that. Also I am rather happy, in fact. Have a decent life, I actually love my job, so I'm already ahead of most people, and i have good friends and a good family. I'm pretty happy all around. Sure, I think a little different than most people, but I don't let it control my life. It's not like I lie awake at night thinking about all the rats I could be boiling alive and getting sad I can't do it.
>>74200451The DSM-V guy isn't me, I'm not a libertarian. Libertarians, on a fundamental level, don't respect the laws of their nation or their leaders that make the decisions. I'm not really a political person; I consider my self a pragmatic authoritarian.
>>74200493Yeah of course I don’t mean to say you’re a miserable piece of shit if you don’t think like the average person but it is interesting to me that you can support humanity without supporting a value of ours that has persisted for centuries: show compassion whenever possibleYou said that you can choose to feel compassion for non human things so its not out of the question for you to show compassion to them, you just seem to have decided not to and have rejected the mantra of billions of humans alive and dead
>>74200658You nailed what I was thinking about, if you can choose to be whatever you want, why take risks and be at odds with everyone else ?In my opinion, either the guy is larping and we've been feeding him for days now, or the dude is a legitimate sadist that tries to justify his cravings
Ok cool so we figured out one person's outlook on it, and it's such an outlier it can't really be used. So is it morally wrong to eat another sentient species? More specifically centaurs?
>>74175007>thin leg bones to make room for esophagusWut?
It’s not morally wrong to eat a human irl shut the fuck up.
>>74202490Pretty sure it is based on those Animorph centaurs that eat through their legs for some absurd reason.