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    40 KB Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)21:35 No.7209857  
    I'll be brief, here.

    Vampires and werewolves and all that lot are scary, still, if they're done well. But don't tell me that you can read Dracula without even once thinking of a certain damnable vampire of the sparkly persuasion. Even Lestat makes the vampires a little less... monster-y. Nowadays, there's no fear, there. Most of the stories with monsters are about how they're like people, too.

    So why not create a new monster? Something that takes the traits that made the old ones scare us, and puts them in a new skin, one without the old romanticized feel. Sure, vampires and the rest are good, but even the old-style fae are a bit too understandable and not-horrifying, sometimes.

    Help me, /tg/... You folks have never let anyone down before. You're the keepers of the Vault of Win.

    I'll put the Slender Man up here as an example. He scares the crap out of me, to be honest. And he's capable of being used in so many different ways. The Tall Men, for example, are going to be making a few appearances in a mesoamerican post-apocalyptic setting I'm designing. Do they follow all the "rules" of Slender Man? No. But, on the other hand, Slendy doesn't have rules, per se. The more you think you know about him, the more incorrect you are, and while there are some things that carry over, he's flexible enough that you can have forty or fifty different versions of him, and you can point to them all and say "That's Slender Man" as easily as you can point to Dracula, Barlow, and Edward, and say "Those are vamp-- Well, okay, the first two are vampires. I don't know what the hell that last one is."
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)21:37 No.7209889
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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)21:43 No.7209954
    OP I agree with this but, Why not try making them scary again? I've been working on a Viral look at Vampires and have had people actually Shudder at the thought of them. Also, I fucking loved Dracula Excellent read and Never once thought of Lestat or The Fag-pires.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)21:45 No.7209970
    The NWoD Vampires are actually generally written very well. You've got your sort of glamoury seductiony vampires, but the important thing is that THEY'RE MONSTERS TOO
    >> Toy Store Anonymous !wImXn9Y2hw 12/19/09(Sat)21:45 No.7209971
    I just thought of Hellsing, a lot.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)21:47 No.7209988
    Well, shit.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)21:54 No.7210065

    I suppose it's just a desire for new monsters. Specifically, new monsters that are untainted by horribleness.

    Some people can do vampires really, really well, but overall, with most people, nothing new can come of them. It's just hard to come up with something genuinely scary, when it comes to the Usual Monsters, and it's not the fault of the authors or the GMs or whatever. Hence, my sudden desire to try and design an even dozen different monsters, each hitting at least one major fear/theme, and each being capable of just as much variation as vampires and the rest of the lot.


    Hrm. Personally, while I like the NWOD vampires, they're still, overall, too understandable and human. Granted, some of them can scare the shit out of me, but as a whole... Nah. It's conceivable that I could negotiate with one, and not only avoid getting eaten, but actually come out better than I was before, because I had some sort of usefulness.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)21:54 No.7210074
    Tried this a while back. Decent results.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)22:02 No.7210154
    Sergals replace werewolves.

    Slenderman replaces vampires.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)22:09 No.7210218
    Well, one of the problems is in trying to make a monster that's genuinely incomprehensible and that's still scary without resorting to the tried-and-true "IT EATS PEOPLE" stuff.

    For starters, how about all of the monster's victims having been accidental? Or perhaps incidental is a better term; they died as a side effect of the monster's existence, not because the monster was trying to kill them.

    Next, make it unstoppable by any normal means. I would tie this in with part one by making the monster's thing be that it actually alters the laws of physics around it in order to exist. Pick a selection of physical constants without which neither life nor matter should be capable of existing and assume that the monster in fact somehow exists under those conditions.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)22:09 No.7210231

    And have some small forewarning given of its appearance in an area. Have a particular set of conditions under which it can manifest in our reality, but make the existence of those conditions itself the product of fundamentally unpredictable processes. So you know that something horrible is on its way, probably within the next few minutes, but you have no way of getting warning any earlier than that.

    Finally, make sure that its appearance is fundamentally wrong in some way. Just for example, have its "legs" visibly move through other parts of its body despite being noticeably solid. Have it be constantly changing shape, slowly enough that its flow from one form to another is clearly perceptible. Have it evoke synaesthesia; people unfortunate enough to be near it can hear its scent, taste its texture, smell its appearance, feel the noises it makes, and have other inexplicable sensations created by its presence. And have it only seem to perceive and interact with real objects in a manner that is nonsensical and impossible for beings actually in reality, such as us.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)22:10 No.7210234
    The Not Rights

    The subject appears to be a normal human, but something is off about him: one eyeball located off to the side of its head, feet instead of hands, teeth made of the top joints of fingers, etc. They've been popping up more and more recently, but no one is still particularly sure how they rise. Some believe they are an organism attempting to pose as a human because they lack a society or culture of their own. Anyone one who reacts negatively or points out one of their defects is immediately ripped apart limb from limb, for the Not Rights are immensely paranoid about anyone pointing out holes in their "perfect" disguise. So if the window person at McDonald's happens to have just a mouth lined by a circle of eyes, just give them your money, take your food, and wait til you're out of earshot before you scream.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)22:13 No.7210263

    I like this. Thank you so much, Anonymous Awesome Person.

    Have I mentioned how much I love /tg/?


    Again, yay.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)22:24 No.7210386
    I've got something I made for a Call of Cthulhu game I'm running for Christmas for /tg/'s approval.

    I don't have a name for them yet, but they're...well, the closest thing to call them would be bugs. Their eggs are tiny white globules suspended in dark, thick translucent gel they secrete from ovipositors located in their abdomens. They'll lay their eggs anywhere--in walls, in animals, on floors, in people. But contact with the eggs brings you into what is basically a sliver of frozen time. More on that in a bit.

    The eggs will eventually hatch, and, if inside a person, will slowly move through the victim's body to their brain (or equivalent organ) and promptly nest themselves in it, using their tiny motes of psychic potential to take over the victim's mind and body bit by bit. Soon the victim is completely dominated by these alien hivemind worms. "Worm zombies" have the accumulated knowledge and memories of the victim, but are easily identified by a complete lack of the concept of causality. They literally do not understand that effect follows cause, because they are perceiving all moments in time simultaneously. They may also have impeded movement--after all, they've got larvae crawling in their muscles and bones.
    >> ^_^ 12/19/09(Sat)22:27 No.7210425
    See >>7209938

    But seriously, you just have to describe them better. You meet an unnaturally pale, thin girl, who looks like she's being hunted by something. "Save me!" she cries, and you feel a tug at your heartstrings as she looks in your eyes. Suddenly the vampire hunters burst into view, and you find yourself standing between her and the hunters, vowing not to let them harm the innocent girl. She escapes, smirking, while you fight until a cleric removes the charm she cast on you. Later when you confront her again, she defends herself with packs of twisted wolves and bats, and finally with her spawn - vampires who look even more pale and thin, some who look like they just rose from the grave (some in fact whom you might recognize from the local town).

    Or you hear about gruesome deaths - bodies mostly eaten and unrecognizable - in the village, and when you discover the friendly innkeeper bearing the wounds you gave the werewolf and kill him, you soon realize that he wasn't the only werewolf in town as more people go missing or are found dead. When you see a werewolf's transformation, you're struck by how *wrong* it looks - the body twisting and deforming before your eyes, and you feel sick to your stomach seeing it.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)22:30 No.7210468
    To create a monster you first need a fear.

    Original Dracula was about fear of the foreigner and fear of sex. The smooth, swarthy foreigner was going to sweep in and take your women. Not only would he take them, they would love it and go all foreign themselves.

    The werewolf is about fear of the bestial. It's a common belief that civilization is just thin veneer over savagery. Losing control and giving into your bestial instincts would cause the whole facade to collapse. See also Mr. Hyde. This fear was prominent during Victorian times.

    What are people afraid of now? I mean really afraid of. You've got people in this country terrified of socialists, Mexicans, terrorists, atheists or anything Other. Why? What are the fears driving that and how can you twist that into a monster.

    I'd say that's all rooted in fear of loss. Loss of privilege, loss of income, loss of a sense of security and place. You need a monster that attacks those things. Something that eats people you can kill. Something that takes away everything you hold dear? That's something that taps into modern fears.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)22:30 No.7210470
    Reading creepypasta threads is good for inspiration when creating monsters or strories that are supposed to be "scary."
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)22:43 No.7210637
    Some variant on the doppleganger, maybe? A psychic monster that moves into your life and supplants you?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)22:47 No.7210684
    These guys sound adorable.

    "Wait, my eyes look funny? I'm so sorry, oh god, I'm such a dick, here lemme take care of that." RIP. "That any better?"

    All said, of course, with complete sincerity.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)22:50 No.7210725
    Oh wait I misread, shit. I like mine better.
    >> stolen from /v/ Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)22:50 No.7210731
    One type of enemy that has two huge claws and a mouth FULL of pointy teeth.

    All it does is advance slowly towards you crying stuff like "Please... just leave me alone" "No.... don't come any closer" "w... what ARE you, pp...please, don't hurt me" With really humanlike voices. And if it reaches you, you die.

    Later on in the game you'll see the first human you've seen the entire game through a window. You talk through the intercom and all of a sudden the door flies open. In stumbles one of those creatures. As it makes its way towards your new friend he backs into a corner going "Oh GODDD NOOOO I don't want to DIEEEE" it reaches him, and eats him whole. The creature then turns towards the window, looks at you and goes "Oh GODDD NOOOO I don't want to DIEEEE".
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)22:50 No.7210732
    dopplegangers ftw
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)22:55 No.7210799

    This'll be how it goes, though, once the Not Rights are popular and widespread enough that they go the way of the vampires, and find themselves in humor fics.
    >> Marauder Månsson !!z2RzcF4nnfb 12/19/09(Sat)22:56 No.7210812
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    Currently people are afraid of religious and political groups, diseases, problems bigger than themselves like economic crisis and germs...

    Guess what monster made a comeback in recent years? The good ol' Zombie.

    Incidentally the zombie was around last time this weighed heavily on peoples minds, during the cold war.

    Monster of the decade: Zombies.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)22:57 No.7210822
    So, people. What scare you the most? Monsters so utterly alien that it is a wonder that you can fathom them. Or monsters hiding behind the mask of humanity?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:00 No.7210857
    >> Marauder Månsson !!z2RzcF4nnfb 12/19/09(Sat)23:00 No.7210870

    Modern day has seen some 'evolution' in the zombies, today they are faster and angrier, and perhaps that has links to today's mindset too. Like the stress of urban life.

    Now I am getting somewhere with this. There are aspects to all monsters that are frightening, and taking these and improving these could be what this thread is looking to do.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:01 No.7210874
    Oh wow.

    Zombies have the added bonus of being hard to make pretty.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:04 No.7210915
    but people want pretty monsters.

    even dragons, it's pretty much canon the idea that they can turn into gorgeous people
    >> Marauder Månsson !!z2RzcF4nnfb 12/19/09(Sat)23:05 No.7210924
    So basically, take some of the zombie archetypes and make it your own.

    The ones I can think of right now are:

    Hordes, relentlessness, turning your friends, lacks emotion and empathy, endless numbers, induces hopelessness, feels no pain, resistant to injury, alien, flesh eating and finally the capability to end the world.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:05 No.7210935
    You now realize that the words are being said/thought by the zombies, not the human.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:05 No.7210936
    Only because they feel less scared of them when they are made pretty.
    >> Marauder Månsson !!z2RzcF4nnfb 12/19/09(Sat)23:06 No.7210948

    That's what the thread is about, counteracting that because when the monsters become pretty, they become human, and a lot less frightening. Hence we don't want pretty monsters.
    >> Marauder Månsson !!z2RzcF4nnfb 12/19/09(Sat)23:07 No.7210964

    No, I realised that when I read it the first time... but hey, you might have spoiled it for someone.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:08 No.7210969
    Want to make people terrified?

    Do something with Pyramid-Head
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:08 No.7210980

    The doppelgänger is a good possibility. Another being a creature that fucks up your perception and sense of reality.
    >> Marauder Månsson !!z2RzcF4nnfb 12/19/09(Sat)23:09 No.7210985

    Since when was he scary? (I can understand some were traumatized in their childhood, I didn't see him until much later.)
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:09 No.7210990
    Fine then, whoever you thought was saying thinking those words, it was the other one.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:09 No.7210996
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    Don't Blink.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:10 No.7211007
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:11 No.7211022
    Maybe we could go in the vain of something that is less well known compared to vampires and werewolves but still rather iconic.

    I speak of Mr. Hide. The darkside that lurks within everyman waiting to be freed to take a bite out of the world.


    Keeping with the idea that the way the zombie has evolved to be a pissed off track runner some love needs to be payed to Mr Hide. We can shape him into something even more terrifying that Allen Moore did in The League.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:13 No.7211049


    But good suggestion. These guys should become a major new monster.

    The rules to them are fairly simple, but its hardly a foolproof defense. And once you manage to find and freeze one you still have to find a way to permanently neutralize them (which can be harder than it sounds).
    >> Marauder Månsson !!z2RzcF4nnfb 12/19/09(Sat)23:14 No.7211059

    Hyde, but yeah, potentially also work in the doppelganger. An evil side to mankind that spreads from person to person somehow, converting them into itself. And either when angered/at times/all the time it turns into a hideous monster. Maybe?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:14 No.7211064
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:15 No.7211072
    that was a fucked up episode
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:16 No.7211080
    How about a bug that when it stings you. You can no longer feel love or empathy. You are basically the same and for a while you hold out as the memory of those feelings linger. Slowly inch by inch though you stop caring and all you can feel is hate and greed.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:16 No.7211091
    >>Hordes, relentlessness, turning your friends, lacks emotion and empathy, endless numbers, induces hopelessness, feels no pain, resistant to injury, alien, flesh eating and finally the capability to end the world.

    Good call. Your audience is doing their best, but is beset by the modern world. They don't understand why shit is always changing and they are getting fucked over when they play by the rules. Zombies capture that overwhelming chaos nicely.

    >>Some variant on the doppleganger, maybe? A psychic monster that moves into your life and supplants you?

    Good, but a little late. Would have kicked ass in the '90s when you had films like Single White Female and a bunch of other "vapid yuppie gets replaced by younger, hotter, more psycho model." You still see echoes of that today, but zombies are the monster of the zeros.

    Time to get ahead of the curve. How long can zombies last and can we come up with a better monster? Solo unnatural predators are passe IMHO. You need a thing that it is hard for one man to defend himself against. Something tying into the lack of community people are always lamenting about.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:17 No.7211093
    Not clicking without knowing what's so bad first. Explain
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:17 No.7211099
    Not scary.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:17 No.7211104

    What about "Invasion of the Bodysnatchers", but with the body-takeover being a temporary but chronic condition?

    Imagine if everytime you fell asleep, something else took over. And this was contagious.

    Unless you and your body-parasite can come to some sort of understanding this is going to make you paranoid as fuck about shutting your eyes. Especially if it keeps taking longer and longer for you to 'wake up' again.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:17 No.7211108
    I could see a few of them realizing they are freaks of nature and try to improve upon their disguise.

    Woman Leaving Dressing Room: How does this dress look on me?
    Store Owner: Good except that your head is on backwards.
    Woman: Oh I'm terribly sorry. (returns to the dressing room and changes clothes). Jeans look better with backwards heads right?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:18 No.7211122
    Mr. Hyde is hardly scary.He is a short ble guy that beats people up with a walking stick.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:19 No.7211126

    They whisper something. You recognise the words, vaguely, but can't make out any meaning. You ask them what they are saying, but they ask you the same thing. You're running the sound over in your head, over and over. It means something. This mad word, this mad sentence. It's important. You say it out loud, rolling it over in your mouth. You barely notice the day pass, work is the same, the drive home the same as always. You just go with the flow, not saying it out loud now, you don't want to seem crazy. But the words are still there. What does it mean? You write it down. Phoenetically. Your wife lays out your dinner and calls you into the kitchen. You shout back, the words almost slip out, but you manage to just repeat dinner to her. She laughs. She eats, you eat. She tells you about her day, and you nod and smile like you're supposed to. She can't know how important this problem you're working on is. Maybe she could help you find out. You take hours to get to sleep. It's on the tip of your tongue, you've almost cracked it but sleep takes it from you.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:20 No.7211139
    That's not scary because it doesn't hurt YOU. You only lose your feelings and that's fine. To be scary it has to happen to other people so you are scared of them. And if the new condition is objectively better it isn't scary either. If they are doing fine, so will you.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:21 No.7211162

    Oh wait shit no, that's just the plot of Crossed.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:21 No.7211166
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:22 No.7211176
    Creature replaces your shadow. You lose the ability to sleep. You become permanently lucid.
    No matter what you do, everything is perfecty clear despite the waves of fatigue that assail you.
    You slowly go mad for a lack of reprieve.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:22 No.7211177
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    something like this
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:22 No.7211178

    It's a reference to an episode of Doctor Who called "Don't Blink".

    Basically, you have these angel-like hyper-dimensional aliens that have the defense of being 'quantum locked'. In short: they are BLAZINGLY fast, as long as you cannot see them. If you blink or look away for a second, they go from being a stone angel to something that can throw you through time and gorge itself on the days you might have lived with a single touch.

    Its rather paranoia inducing: and enemy that could be anywhere, and looking away from it dooms you. And god help you if there is more than one.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:22 No.7211182
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    >So why not create a new monster?

    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:23 No.7211193
    It's his gun.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:24 No.7211206
    Shit son. Nightmare fuel at it's best
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:24 No.7211207
    Thousands of these exist. None of them are ever the main focus of a good story, because they are boring and fun.

    I have a theory which states that monstrous evil is different from demonic evil. "Demons" are ideals- malice given shape. Monsters, while terrible, are being sculpted from flesh and blood and thought and will. I also believe that monsters are much, much more horrifying than demons.

    Monstrous evil is human evil. Take out the human element and what you have left is a hollow caricature of real evil; a mask to scare children with.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:25 No.7211216
    The pale man and that's pretty much it
    >> Marauder Månsson !!z2RzcF4nnfb 12/19/09(Sat)23:25 No.7211217

    Getting ahead of the curve is incredibly hard. To make something scare a lot of people you need it to screw the things they can identify with. Getting ahead of the curve would need you to figure out the problems of the future.

    I'm not saying it is impossible, vampires are older than what made Dracula frightening (or at least versions of them are).

    It'd be easier and more effective to make a twist on what frightens now. Like taking say, these zombie archetypes and making something new out of them.

    Or try going more basic and primal, trying to get at things that will always scare people, or should if done right. Like fear of the unknown and all its extensions. Also isolation and helplessness figure in there I think.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:26 No.7211226
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    Just portray Werewolves like this.

    Plenty scary.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:26 No.7211232

    The weekend. Some time to think. Your wife is mad with you for something. You're mad with her. She says you don't talk to her. She doesn't talk to you. She's watching the news so you watch too. The newscaster is talking about riots in the city. It cuts to the crowd. They're chanting something. The words. You turn the volume up. They have more of it. They have figured more of it out. The volume is at it's maximum and your face is next to the television. This is amazing, the puzzle is almost complete in your head now. You just need to hear more. You whisper the words along with them. Your wife grabs the remote and turns off the TV. You grab it back off her. She's crying. You start to cry. You start to explain to her what happened, you say the words to her. You tell her what you know. She asks what you're talking about, you sound crazy. You tell her you don't know what she's talking about. She is acting crazy. She goes to stay at her sisters. You don't sleep this weekend, you start making tapes and playing them back. You make tapes and play them back, chanting along. You've almost got it.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:27 No.7211241
    Imagine your father or best friend saying something so hurtful, stare at you confused when you explain to them that it made you feel bad and they just shake their head and let out a flat sorry.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:27 No.7211247
    Someone mentioned how modern fears are something we should use and mentioned terrorist as an example.

    That reminded me of The Heavens Smile from the Game Killer Seven. They would make a great idea for a modern day monster.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:28 No.7211253
    heres a great mutant human for you, I've been wanting to stick this in a game for a while.

    It is vaguely man-shaped, but its arms are impossibly thin and long and end in jagged claws. It's skin is pale, wrinkled and dirty. Tufts of matted fur emerge at weird places all over its body, particularly around its lamprey mouth. It's tiny human legs are shrunken and twisted, being dragged along the ground behind them. It peers at you with human-like eyes, and begins to giggle, dragging itself towards you with an increasing speed.

    The trick is not to have it appear out of nowhere like that. Have it follow the group for several days, maybe even a few sessions of play. They may glimpse a small form on the crest of a hill at dusk that quickly dissapears. Then, at night, they laughter nearby, perhaps following them as they set up camp, are just drifting off to sleep or the like.

    They wont ever see it, though they may find marks in the dirt like something has been dragged across the ground alarmingly close to their camp in the morning.

    Play this out for a while, don't use it too often and don't use it too seldom. Then, once they are in a cave, ruined large building or whatever, seperate one of them somehow, they fall through the floor or the like and lose their weapon, and have to search for a way out.
    Then have it appear.

    The thing doesn't have to be strong, the pc will be disarmed. just make it very good at grappling.
    They will shit themselves with fear.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:28 No.7211255
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    Beholders taken to the next level?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:28 No.7211258
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:28 No.7211265
    How exactly do they behave? Killer 7 is on my to get list.
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    Play on what scares or disturbs us already.

    Uncanny Valley. Darkness. Sense of things "not being right". Odd sounds.

    Put them all together.
    >> Marauder Månsson !!z2RzcF4nnfb 12/19/09(Sat)23:32 No.7211310


    Speaking of other stuff, anyone seen The Signal? A movie about a town where all the phones, radios, public broadcast systems and TVs start to blanket broadcast a signal that drives everyone violently insane.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:32 No.7211312
    I seem to remember that the movie The Andromeda Strain scared the piss out of people when it first came out what with us having just gotten back from the moon and all.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:33 No.7211323
    ...................I must know more of this mega beholder.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:33 No.7211324

    Your wife comes back on Monday. She's shouting at you. She asks why you put that shit in her head. You tell her she should come with you into the city. The people there know more. She's drunk. She says she just wants to get rid of it. She says it's making those people in the city crazy. You don't believe that. So she puts on the TV. The newscaster talks about the riots, how they became violent once the the police tryed to stop them. She says she's scared you'll do something crazy. She's calling the police. So you start to say the words. If she only heard a little more, she'd understand. She tell's you to stop. You tell her to stop. She grabs your shoulders and starts to shake you. You grab her shoulders and shake her. A flash of panic flashes across her face and she smacks you hard in the face. You hit her back. Why did you do that? She's on the ground and she kicks out at you. You fight back and soon she's not moving. You run out of your house. You get into the car and just start driving. You have to get into the city.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:34 No.7211332
    A magical creature that tries to make your life better but keeps getting it wrong. It looks through your window at night with imploring eyes. Whilst you sleep it types in an e-mail to that girl you always wanted to ask out, it is poorly written and short. It steals things you want. If you mention you want to lose weight it takes your food. When you wake up you see it gently stroking your hair. If you lash out it disappears for a while but then tries harder to please you. It only wants to make you happy but has no idea how to achieve that.
    >> Marauder Månsson !!z2RzcF4nnfb 12/19/09(Sat)23:35 No.7211348

    Its not so much the monster as building suspense in an appropriate way. It could be anything, done right a teddy bear will scare people like that.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:35 No.7211352
    >The Andromeda Strain
    One of my favorites.

    There's this movie coming out in 2010 called The Crazies (kinda like an zombie outbreak, but not really), which I find scary:
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:36 No.7211357

    New monsters would be preferred, just so that all the old baggage can be entirely gotten rid of. Then again, it can play with the old stories. I'm freaked out by Slender Man for many reasons, not least of which is that he actually fits very well into mythology. He's the Black Man, and the faeries, and the Grinning Man, and a hundred other things. Most of which are German. Germans have some scary shit in their heads.




    Fuck year. Awesome. I knew you folks wouldn't let me down.

    Future generations will praise you folks.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:36 No.7211363
    Hounds of Tindalos. They live in Time. And don't like visitors.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:38 No.7211388
    What about a monster that ttakes the form of pretty people, but is completely mindness and only looks pretty to lure in prey.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:38 No.7211393
    A creature that reacts to violence with violence, hostility with hostility, when you run it only runs faster. You have to embrace it, love it, cherish it. That is how you destroy it. And then in your grief, you become it.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:39 No.7211402
    Some days I thought of the idea of Elmo walking slowly towards me in the dark. There is no visible puppeteer. He isn't laughing. There is just barely the noise of him walking. He walks towards my bedside, looks me dead in the eyes for well over a minute. He then climbs up on top of my bed. He puts his red hand on my mouth, looks me in the eyes some more, giggles quietly, and stabs me right in the eyeball with a screwdriver. Scary fucking shit.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:39 No.7211411
    >>Incidentally the zombie was around last time this weighed heavily on peoples minds, during the cold war.

    Not quite. The Cold War boogeyman was the Communist, manifesting in pod people and mind-controlling invaders from Mars. The zombie didn't get big until the '60s and '70s when the economy and social-structures became unpredictable.

    We might be able to reboot the vampire as the evil aristocrat. He's smoother, smarter and better than you and he is utterly inhuman. Like the downsizing consultants or corrupt politicians he represents he doesn't care about you. You are nothing more than a blood-bag to him. And since he disguises himself so well as a human, nobody will listen to your warnings.

    Mr. Hyde has been brought up and that archetype is eternal. He's the crack-fueled, criminal of the '80s to the meth-fueled gang-banger of today. They don't care about you or the society that protects you. You see some echoes of that in serial killers as well, but even they have been made cuddly with Dexter. Anti-social criminals are such a part of the background you would need an awesome twist to make them monster-level scary.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:40 No.7211419
    I like it.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:41 No.7211426
    Fear is achieved through taking advantage of what people don't understand. This includes:

    Homicidal anger

    Couple that with praying on society's current fears, and you've got a pretty good recipe for something terrifying.

    Say, a terrorist who doesn't hate you but insists that he's about to blow the building up because he loves you so much. And then you notice his pupils aren't round, but are rectangular like a goat's.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:41 No.7211427
    Which means they're only really scary if you're a time traveller.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:41 No.7211429
    The only way to make vampires scary again is to make them feed of the death of others.

    Blood has become a stand-in for sex nowadays.

    Hell, even Edward would be convincing monster if he killed everything he fed off of.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:41 No.7211435


    Apologies for the clunky fiction, but I'm still trying to work this thing out.

    The echo is a kind of weaponised meme. It is a string of nonsense phenomes that sound familiar and intriguing to any who hear it. This makes them repeat it to try and figure out what it means. It's like a really catchy tune that you can't get out of your head. The echo also amplifies the mirror response in a person. This makes them do whatever people around them are doing. If someone says something to them, they respond by repeating it, though not always verbatim. If they are attacked, they fight back slightly more fiercely. If they are with a group that is attacking another person, they will start to as well.

    It's a sort of take on zombies. Alone they are not dangerous, they will not even attack anyone. They are only dangerous if you listen to them. But they want to be around people, so they will follow you and try and talk to you. If you run, they chase. If you fight, they fight back. If you do nothing, you will be infected.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:43 No.7211448
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    This actually gave me nightmares
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:43 No.7211453

    This means that hard and fast rules, like a stat block, will make the creature un-scary. If you don't understand how the creature/ adversary works, it's scary because it could potentially do ANYTHING.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:43 No.7211456
    Again, that's not scary, that's just weird. And not "disturbing weird", more like "what the fuck is this shit weird"

    You guys need to stop playing on what worked before. Playing on society's fears for a modern day society doesn't translate well into monstrous creatures.
    >> Marauder Månsson !!z2RzcF4nnfb 12/19/09(Sat)23:44 No.7211466
    >Not quite. The Cold War boogeyman was the Communist, manifesting in pod people and mind-controlling invaders from Mars. The zombie didn't get big until the '60s and '70s when the economy and social-structures became unpredictable.

    As I mentioned it is a combination of factors, including the Us and Them invaders and the problems that are so much bigger than you. Helplessness, loosing control and social collapse.

    Today we have economic and social difficulties and in the west we have the big bad Terrorist.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:45 No.7211474
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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:45 No.7211476

    lol. I always thought it would be hilarious if a murderer killed his victims with a wire whisk.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:46 No.7211494
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    What happens when you take a "human" and take the "humanity" out? What if there was a creature that could do that? It's not fast or strong, it doesn't kill you or even leave much of a scar. It's tiny, pale, and unnaturally thin. It just follows you, for days and days, getting faster and larger every time you do something cruel or heartless. And one day you step on a bug or push someone out your way on the subway, and it's big enough to see. And one day, you try to scare someone, try to hurt them, and it's big enough to take you. You're not damaged much, but what it took is gone for good.

    Pic related, it's the end result.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:48 No.7211516
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    Use the original Tarrasque (spelled Tarasque originally...) concept from real worth myth.

    Pic related.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:49 No.7211521


    The only thing scarier than a fae that has it in for you is one who starts to like you. They genuinely want what is good for you, but they have a mad idea of how to give it to you.

    They notice you flirting with a girl, and they place a love spell on her. Now she won't leave you alone. She calls you every fifteen minutes. She's leaving notes under your door. She shows up at your job with homemade lunch. You find her clothes in your house. She's in your bed when you get home. She's cut your name into her arm. And so on.
    >> Marauder Månsson !!z2RzcF4nnfb 12/19/09(Sat)23:49 No.7211526

    You gonna tell me Zombies aint awesome monsters?

    If you just want a big nasty beast, then take a few animals, put them in a blender with a bucket of rusty nails and you got one. Run it a few minutes more and you got an eldritch horror.

    What I'm pondering is a replacement for vampires, werewolves and zombies. A kind of monster. Not just an encounter that hasn't been used before.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:49 No.7211535
    how about a cute black puppy that sucks all the happiness in you
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:50 No.7211552
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    The Werewolves from the Witcher were also fucking terrifying.

    I approve of non-furry bloodgutters.
    >> Marauder Månsson !!z2RzcF4nnfb 12/19/09(Sat)23:51 No.7211562
    This has been great but I'm going to bed its 6 am here so... uh, keep it up and archive it.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:53 No.7211575
    Speaking of fae being horrible and kickass THE OTHERS from A song of Ice and Fire are quite cool in the 'oh god it's ripping me apart' variety.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:54 No.7211583
    In the past? Yes, Zombies were frightening and awesome. Today? They're treated like walking targets. You have people who are saying "Oh man, I can't wait for a zombie apocalypse." They've lost their appeal.

    And what you guys are thinking up in this thread... doesn't work. So many of these ideas are based off a fear of compassion... which we don't have. Seriously, a monster that you can only kill by loving it? That would imply that we're afraid of caring and love. Which we aren't.

    Today, society is afraid of terrorists. It's in their fucking name. TERRORist. How do you make something that's supposed to make you terrified in the first place to be even scarier without turning it into something comically monstrous?
    Here's a tip: You don't make it scarier by having him love you.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:54 No.7211588

    It's not clicking for me for the same reason as the bug-bite that eradicates feeling upthreads. What's the cost to me? What fear is it playing off of? In this day and age you aren't going to find a fear of TV and radio outside a small group already living in Montana.

    >>Playing on society's fears for a modern day society doesn't translate well into monstrous creatures.

    Yes it does. The zombie is on the ascendant for a reason. Back in the ''80s when you had the backlash of the excess of the '70s plus AIDS the axe-murderer was king.

    >>Today we have economic and social difficulties and in the west we have the big bad Terrorist.

    The Terrorist is a monster. One we have to deal with, but the fear and bullshit created by those guys is far in excess of their track record.

    Hell. Society NEEDS monsters. Otherwise our anxieties and unfocused fears latch onto some target in the real world and we wind up taking our shoes off at airports and dealing with shrieks about death panels.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:56 No.7211599
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    Trolls are always scary. They're horrible in D&D, they were scary as shit in Willow and in Berserk they explode out of the raped uteri of poor preggo villagers.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:59 No.7211617
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    Delicious 'not shit' werewolves are 'not shit'.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)23:59 No.7211620
    Vampire and werewolves and other fantastic fiction is just a way to make the Masquerade easier to maintain
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:00 No.7211635
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    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:02 No.7211647
    I had a great idea a while ago.

    Creatures who materialize at night and only hunt in packs. They feed on fear and other negative emotions, and they favor "hunting" on isolated roads far from society where bands of travelers sometimes pass through.

    When night comes, someone may notice a faint whispering sound. They might even think they see something in the darkness. But they'll probably be dismissed as foolish or crazy. The next night, someone else may notice the same thing; whispers in the dark. It may even become apparent that the whispers even mention the name of the individual who hears them. As the nights draw on, more people will hear the whispers and see faint shapes moving past the fire's light. And then, someone notices that--although the fire is as big as it was the night before--it seems to be casting less light.

    At night, the victims are haunted by dreams of themselves walking down a road alone at night with the things getting closer, and closer, and the whispering getting louder and louder. They can barely sleep because of these nightmares.

    Eventually someone will snap and feel compelled to go to the firelight's edge to challenge the creatures. They'll be dragged away into the dark by pale, gnarled hands. Tensions will mount as the victims try to figure out the best course of action, and mistakes will be made. If the victims don't reach civilization soon, the firelight will dwindle to nothing and the creatures will claim them.

    And each day, the creatures disappear. But each night, they return to harry the travelers.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:03 No.7211653

    ever seen pontypool?
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:03 No.7211654
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    Just go big.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:04 No.7211666
    I agree, too. That's why I sometimes use Draugers in my campaigns. A Drauger is basically a Norse Vampire that looks like a fucked up dog with 5 arms (4 for walking, 1 for manipulation) that lives in bogs. Some people think that Grendle was a form of Drauger. Either way, a Drauger is a totally merciless, ragefull, semi-humanoid monster that eats the fuck out of people.

    I have a futuristic campaign where a race called Drauga (guess where the inspiration came from) come out of nowhere on splinter shaped boarding craft and raid and pillage until only carnage remains. No one can tell how they got the spacefaring technology because they appear to be very stupid, and still use clubs as weapons. They are also inspired by 40K orks, so picture them, only humanoid dogs, and with some important differences in culture.

    That is very, very interesting! I think people (at least Americans) fear the "removal of the veil" when they have to actually face up to a potentially dangerous or painful world. Our obsession with labor saving devices and matrix-like feeds of entertainment should support this.

    The doppleganger variant is a cool idea, but I immediately thought of the Mothman. A completely ethereal creature that we cannot possibly predict or understand that turns your brain into shit.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:06 No.7211681

    This could even be used in a small village or town. Imagine losing ground each night, possibly with fires on the edge of the town simply going out and refusing to light and then this no-fire zone expanding further into the town as the nights progress.

    And then imagine being one of the big, strong adventurers who is chosen to go out into the night to face these unnameable things.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:06 No.7211683
    You have no fear of everyone you love being incapable of loving you back?
    >> notBrandX 12/20/09(Sun)00:07 No.7211692

    And furthermore: the three essential elements of horror are: abhorrence (that just looks wrong), fear (oh SHIT! that's going to fuck me up) and dread (I'm doomed).

    Zombies fit this to a tee: the dead ambulating, and rotting, is not just unnatural but wrong. Zombies will fuck your shit up if they a hold of you, and they usually outnumber you... their slow, staggering gait prolongs the dread.

    I remember an eldrich horror idea from Mage: The Ascension. The wizards get a tip about a horror that's invaded from the Far Realms, so they're expecting Cthugha or Mii-Go or the like. Instead they burst in on a little old lady, living with cats and a bit senile. She's batty, but kind, and the first obstacle for the wizards is to keep their secret in front of this mundane woman. She's a lonely retiree, bit of arthritis, bit of a stammer, so she'll talk them into staying for tea and scones, telling stories about the "good old times" to get them to keep her company as long as she can.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:07 No.7211698
    Has anyone archived this yet?
    >> notBrandX 12/20/09(Sun)00:07 No.7211702
    Later, doing something unrelated, one of the wizard player characters develops a nervous tic... and starts stammering like the old lady.

    The eldritch horror was right where they got the tip-off, but it wasn't a monster, and it wasn't the old lady -- it was a meme. The old lady's stammering will develop into Tourette's Syndrome, as she compulsively blurts out nonsense phrases that a wizard would recognize as snatches of a summoning spell... and the Tourette's Syndrome gets progressively "worse." And anyone who listens to this long enough will pick up the meme and start degenerating into that same orderly fashion until their verbal cortex can only make the sounds of the summoning spell.

    Abhorrence: you can't speak properly. Fear: just listening to it puts you in danger. Dread: eventually your nervous tic will develop into full-blown incantation to start the invasion, and you'll be at ground zero. Iconic image: not a picture, but an iconic s-sound. Anyone w-who has a speech impediment becomes f-feared. Fickz. S-sorry. Lortz.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:08 No.7211712
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    Penis Worms.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:08 No.7211716
    You're a drooling, inbred retard if you think Edward Cullen and Lestat are somehow less monstrous than Dracula. They're horrific in the extreme. AFAIK Dracula didn't kill women, only turned them, and he was vastly less weird to them than Edward was. Lestat fucking embraced a child and killed every time he fed.

    Twilight vampires also always kill their prey. ALWAAAAAAAAYS. They're hard core snuff fetishists. Even the morally "best" vampire around, Edward Cullen, is still obsessed with a schoolgirl 1/5th his age (imagine a 45 year old watching a 9 year old sleep every night for weeks, flying into a rage when she wants to leave for a trip, etc., multiply that by two, and you have Eddie).
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:09 No.7211719
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    oh fuck you just reminded me of infected, almost threw up a few times reading that book!
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:09 No.7211730

    So...what do they look like?
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:12 No.7211757
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    Personally. The Black Dog from Celtic myth is pretty nasty.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:12 No.7211759
    How about a wrinkled little man who lives in a tree, once a night he comes into your house by throwing up his organs and muscles and pushing the slimy viscera underneath your door. Once inside he slowly does a dance towards you to a gradually increasing tune "La-da-da-de-de, La-da-da-de-da!" in his voice, which for all it's roughness sounds like an infant. His goal is to get you to kill yourself, he always finds a way, his favorite method is trying to crawl into your ears, while you rip at them until they are bloody stumps, you bleed to death as he laps at the brutal wounds.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:14 No.7211785
    I'm infected...
    By your genetics
    I'm infected
    By your genetics!
    And I don't think that I can be fixed
    No I don't think that I can be fixed
    Tell me why oh why are my genetics such a bitch!?
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:15 No.7211790
    Sweet Jesus... The sheer what-the-fuck-itude...
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:16 No.7211808
    The black toothed man takes the form of a tall gaunt figure wrapped in a tight black cloak. His name comes from his most defining feature, a wide mouth twisted into an open rictus grin, reveling a row of gleaming black teeth. He obeys the usual pattern of chase – catch – consume followed by many childhood monsters. His motives for doing so are unknown. It is not impossible to escape him, as otherwise there would be no accounts to describe him. All one need to do is outrun him to some place of safety. He prefers to attack solitary targets, and seems to compulsively avoid places where people congregate, even if only a few are present at the time.

    His most usual characteristic is his signature method of stalking his prey. While closing in, he manifests the ability to muffle all sound in his vicinity. It is not so much that he makes no sound, but rather that there is no sound near him to be heard. Accounts include mentions of such actions as pounding on doors, breaking glass, and even breathing producing no sound.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:16 No.7211812
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:17 No.7211822
    This skill is more dangerous than it may first appear, as when attempting to flee from a pursuit type monster an individual’s sense of hearing is their primary means of gathering information about the parts of their surroundings that they cannot directly see. When there is not sound to be heard, the potential victims perception is limited to what is directly in front of them in their field of vision. Most accounts include some mention of looking over their shoulder to see if he is still perusing them, only to see it drawing closer with each glance. Doing so is not recommended, as he often chooses stalking grounds that are cluttered with debris or other obstacles. If you trip on these, in all likelihood he will be able to catch you. The best possible strategy for avoidance is to run as fast as possible towards the nearest populated space, and never look behind you. Do not stop until you can hear sound again. Wearing a noisemaker of some kind is recommended to be able to better gauge when you have passed beyond the reach of his influence.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:19 No.7211849
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    When it comes to traditional monsters I kind of like them human. They may have instincts or urges - it might be easier to slip into a rage, or tempting to bite into that juicy neck but it's not unstoppable, something that can't be avoided.

    Because I like my monsters human, because monstrosity is much more horrifying and interesting when it comes from a human source. When someone feels that supernatural migh flowing through his veins and decides that his fellow sentients aren't worth shit beyond being blood bags or something for him to tackle to the ground and tear apart.

    That's why in Werewolf: The Forsaken my favorite antagonists were the Predator Kings.

    They were not only the werewolves who exulted in their newfound power by killing and eating their former brethren, but they were the *largest* portion of the Pure. Even more than the evangelical fire-and-brimstone preacher wolves.

    And they joined willingly. the PKs didn't indoctrinate like the Fire-Touched or Ivory Claws do. Those that follow Destroyer Wolf do it of their own volition. They choose to hate society, civilization, technology and Man who spawned it all. They choose to drag people screaming into the night and eat them alive. And they love it.

    That's the scary part. For me, at least.

    Pic semi-related. The werewolves in Welcome to Hoxford are a lot like that. They're complicit in their monstrosity.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:19 No.7211851
    That was cool! I'll be sure to use that.

    Do you guys think that Xenomorphs have become the new monster?

    Another monster that has become popular...I don't know their names, but they are basically totally grotesque mash-ups and many animals, but they all have a general "human" look about them, like they could look like giant disgusting spiders but they have a human torso and horribly disproportionate limbs and melty skin, or they could look like a weird dog-goat thing with human skin and eyes, but everything else is just inhuman. Things like that. you see a lot of drawings of them these days.
    >> Channingman !7COLTS09Lk 12/20/09(Sun)00:20 No.7211859
    Has anyone ever looked at Inuit mythology.

    They have vampire werewolves that were born of the rape of a woman.

    And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:21 No.7211864
    This monster lives under the bed. Every night he makes some noise that scares the person in the bed. They may pull up the covers, they may cry, they may run out of the room. But they grow up, and they realise that there is nothing to be worried about. One night they muster the courage to look underneath. They lean over and shine a flashlamp. The coast is clear. Then the monsters quiet brother drops on them from the ceiling.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:21 No.7211865
    He makes sure to lick up every drop of blood that his gory body left behind in a trail as he dragged himself under your door. Later he rips off all your skin, but he only needs a little. In his tree, with a needle made from bones he fashions a new suit of wrinkled skin not unlike his own, then vomits a torrent of blood and guts from your own body into this new "flesh suit" he then puts his own skin back own, pulling it up like a set of long-johns. He needs to go hunting again tonight, for he has just become a father.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:24 No.7211897
    I think we have a winner... What is it called?
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:26 No.7211914
    > How about a wrinkled little man who lives in a tree, once a night he comes into your house by throwing up his organs and muscles and pushing the slimy viscera underneath your door. Once inside he slowly does a dance towards you to a gradually increasing tune "La-da-da-de-de, La-da-da-de-da!" in his voice, which for all it's roughness sounds like an infant. His goal is to get you to kill yourself, he always finds a way, his favorite method is trying to crawl into your ears, while you rip at them until they are bloody stumps, you bleed to death as he laps at the brutal wounds.

    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:27 No.7211926

    I call him, spindler.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:29 No.7211946
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    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:35 No.7212014
    No way, I made it up! he's the spinder!
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:35 No.7212015

    Does he have any weaknesses? And how do you attract his attention in the first place?
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    Well, if you look at the trend monsters have been taking, it looks like it's evolving into the hunted going against bigger and bigger threats. We had solo hunters like vampires, werewolves, and mutants before, and we've recently been into the overwhelming horde aspect that zombies represent. So, why not take it even a step further? What if the monster was the entire enviornment? Like, take the concept of a haunted house, where everything in it is against you (books flying at you, furniture trying to eat you, etc etc) and cranking it up to eleven. Buildings come alive as each room morphs and distorts in the house's attempt to kill you. The layout of the rooms and halls change, doors appear and disappear, things like that. You don't have to keep it applied to just buildings either. It'd be creepy as shit to have trees and bushes morphing and melting in an attempt to off the heroes in a dark forest. If you wanted to run them in games too, it'd work pretty good for a setup. Say the PCs have to rescue a person lost in said house/find some item of importance/find the heart of the house and kill it, and that's just basics.

    Pic related. Giygas is always related.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:38 No.7212046
    In fatal frame there was this little ghost girl, who was scared and frightened and didn't want to be alone and she just wanted to hug you for safety but every time she did she'd fall through you and hurt you and she didn't know why and she just got sadder.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:38 No.7212054
    You attract his attention if he sees you in his little tree in the day, he just chooses someone who seems alone and mentally unstable. If you know he's coming you can just shoot him, he's not immortal or anything, but he is really fast and not very big.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:41 No.7212081
    I also imagine him wearing a pair of socks made of human faces, he stitches them to his feet, which is itself made of human flesh.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:42 No.7212089
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:43 No.7212097
    archived it.

    I love sup/tg/.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)00:55 No.7212210
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    Dude, fucking yeah. Have you played Oblivion? It's Trolls were true nightmare fuel. They'd come out of fucking nowhere riiight at the darkest most winding part of the dungeon with that god-awful yell and those clawed gorilla hands and those three goddamn eyes and those fangs and...jeez.

    Many a brick was shat. Many, many a brick.
    >> Shas'o R'myr !!TZikiEEr0tg 12/20/09(Sun)00:57 No.7212234

    I'm glad I carried Goldbrand with me at all times. Cast Minor Inconvenience and rush in hacking.
    >> WritefagLock 12/20/09(Sun)00:59 No.7212249
    Fuck it, I'm writefagging something. I'll post what I've got, shit or not.


    The Aztecs...

    It had all started with the Aztecs...


    [An exerpt from The Armed: From 2011 to Now, by Professor Isiac Horm, dated Febuary 13th, 0003 AA]

    Back then, back in 2011, when this had all started, we had all been hearing the stories. 2012 was going to be the end of the world, we were all going to die, the gods were coming down once again. Movies, books, everyone either siding with or against the stories. People kept digging deeper and deeper into the Aztec society, trying to either prove, or disprove the rumors. Civilization then had viewed the people as a highly advanced race, and we were still using their calendars for astronomy and whatnot. It started back in 2008, true. But oh, once 2010 hit, the masses just started to eat things up. Every other week, another book or TV special would come out about this stuff.

    Goddamn people just wouldn't leave the subject alone...

    In the middle of September, in the year 2011, a group of researchers, both for and against the stories, had gathered to search the newly-discovered ruins of what seemed to be an ancient Aztec library. They had all determined that if there was a definite answer to the 2012 stories, they would be in those ruins. I was with the group, working as the assistant to one professor Hilling Yamato, a renouned archeologist. We expected to find nothing at all. What we actually found, however...was terrifying.

    When we reached the ruin entrance, we all began to examine the door. It matched most Aztec design asthetics, with the exception that the entire door, and everything immediately connected to the door, was a blood red. I remember seeing something like a window, in one area. I looked through it, and could have sworn I'd seen myself. It wasn't until we found the text, that we began to suspect anything.
    >> OPGM 12/20/09(Sun)00:59 No.7212253
    Two personalized forms of previously stated monsters.

    You see someone running into an alleyway. You watch, interested, and see them reach the end. There's no way out. They turn around and press themselves against the wall, as it approaches. You see it, a small naked form with ashen skin. The size and shape of a little girl, only, it's hairless, and no holes mark it's ashen skin. As it approached, a child-like voice utters "No, no, stay away! Oh god, OH god! Help me! Don't hurt me! Please stay away, oh please......... ", and at about ten paces away, the victim starts diminishing with every step of the creature. Becoming wrinkled and losing size, collapsing into a husk, with the victim's last breath they scream "No, please, go away... don't hurt me....", and then they're a pile of skin and bones, turning to you the girl-like creature begins to approach. In it's voice you hear it utter "No, please, go away... don't hurt me....."
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)01:00 No.7212257

    Minor Inconvenience?
    >> OPGM 12/20/09(Sun)01:00 No.7212264
    Other updated version....

    One day you noticed it, a small pale white worm-like creature, tiny, and insignificant. It follows you no matter where you go. It moves slowly whenever you look at it, but it's always near you, no matter how far or fast you go. Then maybe one day, you push someone, or toss an insult, and then you notice it's a bit bigger. It keeps following, but as it grows it changes. It's no longer a worm. The pale white being looks like an infant, if infants were merely bone, and skin. Whenever you try to confront it, you can't find it, it responds to nothing you do, or say. As it grows, it becomes similar to your shape and size, and it gradually maddens you, causing you to be crueler and crueler to others in your madness. One day it's almost as small as you, perhaps you hit someone, or maybe you just didn't lend someone a pen, when you had a spare, but that day it seems to be following you more than ever. When you go home, and are alone, it does something it never has before. It approaches you, with a smile. It has no teeth, and nothing in it's mouth, a black crescent marrs its perfect white face, and it grabs you. You scream in agony at it's touch, it's razor fingers slice you open, and it slips inside. With your last moment of consciousness you are aware of it's first, and your last thought, "Mine."

    No-one will notice any change. It will go on living your life. No-one will ever know what's staring out of your eyes.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)01:00 No.7212266
    There are a quite a few things to get ahead of the curve with, you just have to look at scifi.

    Nanotech is one of em.
    There was a short story called blood music that had runaway nanomachines redesign all life on the planet.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)01:00 No.7212273
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    You are now realizing this poster has described the premise for "Monster House"
    >> Shas'o R'myr !!TZikiEEr0tg 12/20/09(Sun)01:01 No.7212280

    I had a spell that did Fire Damage 1 pt for 120 seconds.

    On most enemies this was exactly that - a minor inconvenience.

    Against trolls, it stopped their regeneration.
    >> WritefagLock 12/20/09(Sun)01:02 No.7212288
    Note that this was made after reading maybe the first half or so of the thread.

    One of our translators had called us over. Her name was Kinnia Lacus, and she ended up being one of my best friends, and my dearest partner during this scenario. Sadly, as of the time I'm writing this, Kinnia Horm, is now dead, buried outside the shelter. (Or at least, we think the she is.) Regardless, she had found some text, and after translating for us, she began to mumble endlessly. The text was latin, she said. It went on and on about some destroyers, the things we would later refer to as the Eversors, after the original latin. The text didn't belong there, and something odd must have happened. As she continued to mumble, I tried to talk with her, as the others had a quick roundtable. After that, we ended up opening that door.

    That goddamn door...

    What we found in that library- no, what we found in that vault, doomed humanity, 15 months after the fact. That said... I belive that what was in that vault could also save all of us...

    Let me explain the terror that we had found. Bones piled to the celing, thousand year old bloodstains on the walls. There were bodies that had to have been at least 500 years old, perfectly preserved, almost in stasis. It was a scientific discovery of massive proportions! We took a few of the bodies back to our lab, and what we had found, was-

    [The page is ripped past this point. The blank side of the sheet has been used, the phrase "ab mortem usque ad infinitum, morituri nolumus mori" is written it what appears to be blood. Translated, with a bit of lenience, it means "From death to infinity, we who are about to die, don't want to."]
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)02:11 No.7212931
    So, coming back from my drunkening, I find little progress. Quadruple read the organ-vomiting little man in a tree that got some praise just to make sure. Go live somewhere else, use fire or Drano, chop down the tree. Heck, just give him a good cock-punching.

    We don't face horrors as our ancestors did. Heck, for those of us in the states we don't even face mid-century horror in the same way thanks to modern communications. Your town is being taken over by a menace? Phones don't go through a local switching office anymore and there are town, county, state and federal police agencies to contact. Plus the Internet and the media. J-Horror made a good rear-guard action, but isolation fear isn't credible where most people live.

    To scare a person? You need a societal breakdown. Something the zombie apocalypse delivers nicely, wrapped up with all the other anxieties of our age. Or something that makes you yourself the despised Other, while still remaining yourself to understand what is happening. And I don't know a monster that does that.

    Maybe District 9? Haven't seen it, but heard it rocked.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)02:42 No.7213156
    I personally am fond of the Contagious Mr. Hyde.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)02:44 No.7213172
    The fundamental problem with making scary monsters, I've found, is that the human response is to slaughter them all.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)02:46 No.7213188
    If you ever watched the BBC mini-series Hyde, I preferred that version.

    Motherfucker was INTENSE.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)02:49 No.7213209
    Yeah, and designing them to trigger the "flight" mechanism usually just results in dead players as its hard as fuck to trigger that sense of desperate self preservation if they're not in actual danger.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)02:50 No.7213212
    I was just summarizing someone else's post on the thread. It was actually more Mr Hyde meets Invasion of the Body Snatchers
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)02:59 No.7213278

    Yeah, and even then flight is almost temporary.

    "Holy shit! Hmn. So, let's figure out a way to kill this sucker and then go back."
    >> Iron Lung 12/20/09(Sun)03:02 No.7213296
    So let's go back to madness. The root of all power is perception, but you can only beat back the real.
    Things don't have to be real to be horrible, they're worse if they're not there when you stop shooting.

    You put down the remote control which you'd clicked angrily for five minutes of frustration and your dog has been stabbed in the skull 30 or 40 times.

    You wake up, get dressed, get out the door, get into your car, and as you turn the key you emerge from being underwater, gasping and spitting up cold brown ocean.

    Perhaps there's some fear to be mined from always having to question the information your decisions are made with. Sort of a taste of old Jacob's Ladder.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:04 No.7213314
    So, the latest fear everyone has is terrorism, right?

    Consider the latest trend in truly terrifying shit; aliens. Monsters. Cthulhuesque horrors.

    All creatures who do horrible things, for reasons entirely behind your comprehension. Creatures with minds that work in ways you cannot begin to fathom. Creatures you simply can't understand.

    Sound familiar?
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:06 No.7213341

    Agreed. Outside of genre-aware players (Call of Cthulu) or the Zombie Apocalypse it is tough to imprint that idea of "You are on your own. There is no backup. Nobody cares if you live or die. And you will die." nowadays.

    That four-armed, tall thin guy? Terrifying... in a fairy tale. In real life? If I don't personally shotgun his ass to hell there are plenty of people (government, university biology departments, bio-tech corporations) who would be more than eager to do it for me. The "Oh no, nobody will believe me!" bit? Yeah, everyone has SFX programs on their computer, but cell-phone video still goes a long way.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:08 No.7213366
    one word: wendigo
    >> Iron Lung 12/20/09(Sun)03:11 No.7213390
    Not mention it'd only take a little forensic evidence. A drop, A DROP, of blood, a single hair -a thing shed damn at random, a few scales from that Deep One, a scrap of shoelace drawn from the souls of forgotten children, whatever.
    Seeing may not be believing, but seeing it through a microscope is.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:11 No.7213391
    So monsters are scary because they are monsters.

    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:14 No.7213419
    Your cellphone didn't pick up shit and there is no evidence, none. There's some dead people and missing people, but the creature itself left nothing.
    >> Iron Lung 12/20/09(Sun)03:18 No.7213461
    Could certainly be, but even how they were killed will tell a coroner something. "Ripped apart, no signs of actual cutting, by something tall. Possibly drawn and quartered, but no rope filaments in the flesh. Ligature on ankles and neck, tissue bruising by 4 quite strong fingers..."
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:28 No.7213560
    Deep One doesn't leave DNA. It's a servitor race, genetically engineered to...fit, not leave trash behind. It devours everything alive, incorporates it into itself, and itself cannot really be damaged outside of nuclear radiation (which destroys its cells).

    There's an interesting story an author wrote about a Deep One actually being released. From a foot-tall cannister (where it had been contained however long ago). It devours all people and even some major buildings in southeast Australia before someone else (US) decides to do something about it and send a nuke in. The world wasn't pleased.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:29 No.7213568
    I honestly think disease is the last true monster. People these days are incredible germophobes, and disease is almost impossible to see or stop unless you withdraw from society completely; in your isolation, you go crazy.

    I think the idea of a disease that makes you lose your rationality is incredibly frightening. You catch some sort of sickness that literally stops your ability to reason stone cold, and you don't notice it until one day you're balancing your checkbook, wondering where all your money's gone, and BAM! you notice that the numbers never add up the same, and you're writing with a bit of chicken bone sharpened to a point, dipping it in an inkwell filled with strange, fetid liquid, eating raw meat while hunched over a deep freezer, and you haven't left the house for days, adding up numbers, adding up numbers, adding up numbers,
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:29 No.7213570
    Sir? I salute you. You said it much better than I ever could. But I still have this to contribute. The paraphrase of Dr. Edmond Locard's famous exchange principle. "Every contact leaves a trace."

    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:32 No.7213598
    If there's no other evidence outside of one traumatized witness, it just goes down as an odd mystery and is left alone.
    >> Iron Lung 12/20/09(Sun)03:35 No.7213623
    Betrayal by the rational is a modern disease, too. Here in the states the number of people who don't trust vaccines (and thus refuse to vaccinated their children) is jumping. The number of people who'll choose homeopathy and faith healing for life-threatening diseases has increased as well.
    If one can accept science = magic then there are those slowly working up the fury for a witch hunt.

    Huh. What if rational thinking's the disease? What if we are under siege by monsters and elder horrors and our salvation is as much savage ignorance as we can flood our minds with?

    Did we survive far longer as tool-making animals, or as pondering creators?

    Thanks, one does try on occasion.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:37 No.7213635
    Living meme.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:40 No.7213662
    Wouldn't even have to be living, as much as detrimental to the extreme. Make you claw your eyes out, commit suicide, stop eating, scream until your throat bleeds.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:42 No.7213679
    Well, vaccinations are hurting us. As are antibiotics and other medications that kill off our problems. We really are kicking ourselves in the pants with those.

    Also, if the people who believe in faith healing and homeopathic remedies die off, who are we to complain.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:42 No.7213682
    Blind faith in the benevolence of the state is not the same thing as reason, bub.
    >> Iron Lung 12/20/09(Sun)03:47 No.7213717
    Choose what you want.
    But it, and they, are out there. What's been damaged is basic trust, and since we're about scary things I propose the worst thing is not finding out that Black Mesa and FEAR are real, but that the little things your life is built around, like that your keyboard isn't the dried bones of a toddler missing a state over, might be a lie.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:48 No.7213733
    seriously, the wendigo. gaunt, barely more than a skeleton with skin stretched tight across it, with bloody, tattered lips. with every person it eats it gets bigger, so it always needs to eat more. constantly starving and constantly gorging itself on human flesh

    and because the wendigo is a spirit, it can also posess individuals who are greedy, gluttonous, or starving
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:52 No.7213762
    Some might say the scary thing is neither of those are true. As fantastic as our world is, it's the full extent of things. No alien life forms, ghosts, no soul, no spirit, no afterlife. Just survive, reproduce, repeat.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:54 No.7213786
    No, fuck you, finding out that the events that take place in FEAR are real would be scary as hell.
    But not FEAR 2, cuz it was shit,
    >> Iron Lung 12/20/09(Sun)03:56 No.7213802
    good ol' Existential Horror.
    this is it: this is all the meaning we get, this is as good as it gets.
    Feh. That's a little too close to home, thanks. =]
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)03:58 No.7213821
    >>I honestly think disease is the last true monster.

    I thought about that. Imagine you separated from your family by grim, flame-thrower wielding troops. Your wife and children, brothers and sisters, mothers and fathers begging for salvation. But they have the pox on their cheeks. Death, incurable, contagious.

    Too abstract. Too black and white. Might be hard to sell to a modern audience raised on miracle drugs. That's why disease is often portrayed metaphorically as a werewolf curse or a vampire bite.

    >>seriously, the wendigo.

    You know what? If I'm in a diner in Alberta during a blizzard? That's a legit threat. So is the blizzard itself. How is the wendigo supposed to inspire terror in the summer during my middle class existence in Arizona?
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:00 No.7213851
    Your example of disease strikes me as more tragic than scary.

    And why bother with a wendigo when a cannibal (or two) would be just as nasty, but more adaptable to other climates.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:03 No.7213873
    because it still wants to eat you, or have you eat other people and become a wendigo.

    the myths are mainly found in the far north because in places where death by starvation during bitter winter makes cannibalism much more possible. the wendigo myth served to strengthen the social tabboo of cannibalism so people would be afraid to resort to it even in dire situations.

    but the idea of becoming, or being posessed by, a horrible cannibal-spirit that's always on the verge of starving to death is still pretty nightmarish
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:17 No.7214000
    >>but the idea of becoming, or being posessed by, a horrible cannibal-spirit that's always on the verge of starving to death is still pretty nightmarish

    Possibly. If I am one does it bother me? However the idea of "Another cannibal killing in Arizona. Have cuts in social services forced the homeless to resort to cannibalism? More after the break." is uncanny.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:26 No.7214089

    Where's this from?
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:29 No.7214117
    John Shirley, I believe, wrote of a disease that struck mankind. People couldn't get within 10 feet of each other or they'd be sent into a berserker, murderous rage and kill each other. Protagonist was a survivor, managed to find an isolated piece of land. Eventually sees a girl. Seeing as how they can be human to each other at a distance (he has a fence) they get to talking, sharing food, etc. Eventually both of them realize they want something more. They want to test it, maybe they've gotten better with their contact. So they get closer, a bit, and closer, but can't get closer than 10 feet before they start freaking out. Which sucks cause, by this time, they're seeing themselves as the only friends in a lost world, and want to get it on. They devise a sort of bondage for it, hands tied behind back, etc. After some testing it seems to actually work. He's full of a bloodthirsty rage but he does manage to do her and without harm. Then his hand gets loose and he slaughters her. He mourns, of course, it was to be expected, now he's alone again, etc. But eventually he sees another person skirting his land. Sure enough, it's a girl. And he starts thinking of ways to get into the girls pants. It'll work, next time, he's sure.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:29 No.7214123
    It was the first, actually.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:30 No.7214137
    There's a series of zombie books out by one of the lesser known publishers. They're anthologies. It looks like one of them.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:32 No.7214151
    Wouldn't predators have been the first monster? A disease you wouldn't understand. Or if you did, at least not have seen it as some separate, alien thing.

    Herbert West might say that death is the most epitome of monsters.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:33 No.7214163
    Yeah, Zombie Tales, by Boom! Studios.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:34 No.7214169
    Think back to the first lifeform.

    Single cells.

    What preys upon protean single cells when there's nothing else?

    Random bits of self-replicating protein chains.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:35 No.7214178
    well, i assume you wouldn't enjoy the feeling of endless gnawing hunger. and it'd still be your mind doing the driving, just your primary urge becomes "eat my friends, family, neighbors, and whoever else i can because if i eat enough people maybe i won't be hungry anymore"

    all told, being a wendigo is pretty awful
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:37 No.7214195
    also, no dental plan and the hours suck
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:38 No.7214209
    Or nothing. A completely safe and secure environment, allowing that celled creature to survive, reproduce, repeat. Until a mutation arises. From amongst one of their own. And that is the predator.
    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)04:39 No.7214222
    Ok, I have some old notebooks of mine where I made up a fuckton of ghosts... let me see if I can find some good ones for you guys...
    Type 025: HATE
    Appearance: like a normal person, but the chest cavity, when exposed, is torn open and an enormous beast with mouths for eyes burst out. The main body is just a deception, the inner creature has devoured it from the inside out. Contagious.
    Appearance: a gaunt figure, with limbs and body parts replaced with hypodermics and other drug paraphenalia. Hangs around addicts, intensifying addictive tendencies and feeds off the experiences given by the living who use drugs.
    Appearance: Just fading outlines of a figure. Steals memories of loved ones and friends for its own since it no longer remembers anything about itself, nor does anyone else.
    TYPE 044: GUILT
    Appearance: Upper torso, bound in chains with weights for arms and hands. Creates a pervasive sense of heaviness and transfers its feelings to those near it who become overcome with feelings of loss, guilt, and shame and often kill themselves.
    Appearance: Humanoid skeleton with shield like rib cages for forearms and long black clawed hands. Attached to an individual or place, kills anyone who shows the slightest threat to the attached object or person.
    TYPE 052: MIRROR
    Appearance: A dark reflective robed figure. Alters form upon contact with people, immediately assuming the form of the persons true self, often distorted shadow personalities.
    Appearance: Humanoid, no mouth. Wears puppet rigging all over her body. Manipulates other spirits and people through emotional means, which form anchors on the people, then uses them to her own ends. Sort of like Tzeentch, but more sadistic and less concerned with planning.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:40 No.7214231
    OP: have you ever read the Holder series or some of the other copypasta on /x/?

    Fear is based on the power of the group, if the players can blast fireballs from their fingertips and decimate baddies with a snickersnack of their vorpal blades, it is going to be a lot harder to make the players actually feel as if they are endangered. A great solution is something that can't be dispatched as easily as dealing X amount of damage to the target, the environment works great to solve this if done properly. Think Deadspace, the ship was being overrun by some unknown growth, turning people into abominations. Sure, you have all this fancy technology, but you're outnumbered, utterly alone and the ship is failing, giving you a sense of dread despite your superior abilities. Another great theme were the giant tentacles that dragged you to your doom if you didn't destroy them fast enough. Have the party explore a cursed marsh or an old factory, giant tentacles pop out and drag individuals off in different directions. They can be chopped in half, but rather than describing damage according to hit points, describe it as "Your slash only manages to cut a quarter way through the appendage." Make use pf the characters' senses, they hear smell and see things that aren't there, they remember things incorrectly due to hallucinations. Sure, they played through bribing the prison guard, they remember bribing him, but it was a hallucination, they really paid some bum outside a dog kennel. Alter the players' sense of reality and watch the fear and confusion set in.
    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)04:41 No.7214247
    These are just super-general overviews, and I can expand on any of them if you want. I can only find the notebooks with types 021-079 right now though, I'll keep looking, so if you want just give me a number and I'll try and find it and describe it for you.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:43 No.7214264
    Nice. It's like Pokemon TM list..
    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)04:46 No.7214297
    At this point there are somewhere around 125, so I number them to keep track.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:47 No.7214310
    How about Babel?

    Something, either a virus or a toxic meme or ghosts or divine vengeance, something gets into your head, and turns off Language.

    You go to read the newspaper, and it's all squiggly lines. your wife is making noises at you, she looks upset.

    You can't talk to anyone, you can't describe what's happening to you, you can't hear the doctor's rational explanation, you can't call the police or the FBI. You are alone.

    And then, you witness something gruesome and horrible that nobody else saw.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:47 No.7214313
    Richard Laymon, a horror writer, brings out some evil shit. The trolls. Homeless, cast out and mixed with those sent out from shut down Asylums due to Reagan's closing them down. They're not all insane, not all cruel, not all mean. But they're not a part of any society we know. They're humans by blood only at this point. Life is so unfair for them, they become easily influenced by others, preying on that thought, that things should be fair or whatever. And suddenly you have a nameless, faceless mass of people willing to do whatever they need to survive and make things fair for them.

    He also had the Beast. Which was more of a sexual thing. An actual monster, it...it was the bane of men.

    And lastly, the psychos. Some might be homeless, some might live next door. They range from brad pitt-good looks to tall, fat guys who walk around naked, with blood splattering their chests and their cock sticking out. Because they're going to RAPE someone with it..

    One book led a girl and her friends through great measures, with the hint of a reward at the end. The main character was able to reunite with her family. The family she so desperately tried to put behind her, as her stepfather and stepbrothers raped and abused her before she ran away from home as a young teen. And now she's got her friends, she's popular, she's sexy, but it doesn't matter how much she put it behind her, cause they're RIGHT THERE and they want her back. And they're glad she brought some company. Can get rid of the men, though.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)04:55 No.7214391
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    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)04:59 No.7214438
    OK, found 001-021, posting some from that section.
    many people who died in a similar manner, or are otherwise bound to eachother. led by a central body, other spirits manifest as arms which serve and protect it. Gestalt consciousness.
    servant to the puppet master. person controlled by pain which is immediately present.
    spirit which inhabits a doll. the puppet master employs several of these. weaker version of type 012.

    person who was torn apart by pain, but someone helped them come back together. the puppet master may employ some spirits of this type.
    A little more on 030,
    one who was addicted to substances, and cannot give them up even in death. they are purveyors of spiritual drugs, which are much stronger and very different than their physical counterparts
    one who died consumed by grief and the pain of loss. they may have taken their own life or, in rare cases they have been known to mourn for the living.
    one who pays penance for their sins and greed by needing to devour physical remains of the freshly dead as punishment by karma.
    Little more on the mirror...
    one who adapted their personality to fit in with other people. in some cases, mirror spirtis can reward the kind, and punish the horrible. they would destroy the puppet master rather
    spirit capable of splitting into two entities, born of a schism in a person arising from the murder of another. and loves nothing more than to hunt down prey and murder it. it borders on a demon.
    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)05:01 No.7214471
    For appearances, I made some symbolic visual traits that evoke an emotional connection to them, useful for making a monster with purpose.

    -No eyes- Spirits lose sight of everything but what keeps them tied to this plane. This is manifested by the eyes being absent.
    -Wounds on wrists- Self-hatred. This is pain caused by the person hating themself.
    -Cracks/in pieces- Feelings of being broken. Subjugation or crushing blows to the spirit.
    -Lower jaw removed- Silenced by another, forcibly made not to speak.
    -Mask/hood- Hiding or concealing one's true feelings or intention for some reason.
    -Strings- Lines of control or manipulation.
    -Chains- Forced attachment or being bound, depending on if the chains attach to something.
    -Belts/straps- Bondage, dying while bound or feeling bound up or highly constrained.
    -Tears of blood- Intense sorrow.
    -Heart removed- Feelings or heart itself were taken and not returned.
    -Heart exposed- Showed their heart to someone, possibly had it broken and were caused sorrow.
    -Broken/wounded heart- Sorrow dealing with love.
    -Vacant cavity- Feelings of emptiness or unfulfillment.
    -Disembodied head/missing parts- Amputee/beheaded or debilitated condition at death, could be linked to decomposition of the body.
    -Claws/weapons integrated into the body- Malice, murderous intent <NOTE: Only shinigami may have actual weapons. Spirits may only have integrated makeshift weapons such as bones, needles, etc.
    -Completely removed eye- Injury for which one is seeking revenge.
    -Nails, screws, pins, etc.-Pain from which the source is immedieately present, and can also be used for string anchor points.
    -Cloaks- Desire to hide, shame, concealment of oneself.
    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)05:03 No.7214485
    -Black hole/empty spot on heart-loss of all positive emotions like love or kindness.
    -Scarf- Kindness.
    -Many eyes- Obsession.
    -Tonal differences/pieced together- 2 sides, light and shadow, multiple personnalites making up one single personality.
    -Straitjacket- trapped by madness (not spirit- actual madness)
    -Shadow/only visible in shadow- One who will not show themselves. Fear.
    -No mouth- Does not wish to speak or feels they cannot.
    -Thorns/roses- Outward~Pain unintentionally caused to others that one feels guilt for when used with a rose it means love is involved. Inward with roses~ Pain caused by a lover.
    -Made of scraps/patched together- Was at one time torn up, but repaired (done with pins, thread, etc.)
    -Beast hidden inside- A hidden part of oneself or emotion that in type 025's case, has eaten everything else away and is all that remains.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)05:03 No.7214491
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    Hey, how's it going?
    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)05:04 No.7214501
    -Re-oriented/twisted around- Perversion of oneself so that they are a mockery of their former self.
    -Bloodless wounds- Cause of death/physical wounds making anguish, possibly with the protruding cause.
    -Burns- Anger, fresher looking= stronger, with flames~ hatred or intense anger.
    -Only visible by blood- That pain and sorrow is all that remains of them. It is all that defines them.
    -Drugs, IVs, syringes integrated into them- Addiction to these substances.
    -Razor blades- Sharp sense of self-hate, desire to destroy oneself.
    -Bow- Present to another.
    -Gaping maw with teeth- Greed.
    -Black hands- Killed someone.
    -Featureless/fading- Forgotten by themself, or those they love.
    -Spikebelts/cages of razors- Intense physical anguish at the hands of another, torture.
    -Skin torn away- Defenses stripped away (with blood present) Victim of cannibalism (without blood)
    -Veil stitched to face- Absorbed by grief.
    -Hand stitched to face- Utterly consumed by shame.
    - Disdended stomach- gluttonous ~ also a part of the hungry ghost myth of Japanese mythology.
    -Incredibly thin- Death by illness or withered away.
    -Holding a disembodied hand- Died feeling they lost their way, their guide lost from them.
    -Made up of multiple bodies, or has multiple pieces- Made up of multiple souls who died together, the same way, or have some other binding circumstance.
    -Many mouths, desiccated- Hunger, starvation.
    -Locks, bolts, padlocks, etc.- Signifies someone who locked up and internalized their feelings.
    -Black hands wreathed in flames- Flame poltergeist, killed someone with fire. Arsonist.
    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)05:05 No.7214533
    -Weights, heavy chains- Guilt.
    -Mouth stitched shut- Someone who was killed to be silenced. As in someone who knew too much.
    -Eyes stitched shut- Someoe who was killed to keep them from seeing something.
    -Ears cut off and stitched- Someone who died, was killed, or killed themself to silence the voices, or to escape the noise of the world, or something like that.
    -Shield- Desire to protect. Someone who died to protect someone, or stayed after death to keep someone safe.
    -Bone shields- Someone who killed, fought, or dealt in death to keep someone safe and protect them.
    -Reflectiveness- Someone who constantly adapted to people around them to be accepted. In some cases, a mirror spirit will kill an evil person, or be kind to a kind person.
    -Spirit of blood (NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH ONLY VISIBLE BY BLOOD)- Bleeding to death.
    -Face directed constantly backwards- Regretful
    -Made of electricity- Very energetic spirit.
    -Arcs of electricity- Electrocuted to death.
    -Writing, symbols, runes banding the spirit- Summoned.
    -Made of toxic sludge- Person who poisons the minds of others by seeping their ideas, thoughts, etc. into the minds of others.
    -Brain exposed- Person undergoing close psychological examination.
    -Brain Scarred- Brain/mental damage.
    -Writing on brain- Permeating thoughts, feelings.
    -Amps, instruments built/integrated- Music very important to the person.
    -Multiple limbs with a single, unified body- Possible ability to split, or aggressiveness.
    -Zippers, closeable openings- Adaptation developed by some spirits that devour energy and others, to easily take in that energy, or to reveal another form.
    -Bandages- Healing pain. Wrapped up in the task of simply overcoming some emotional obstacle.
    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)05:08 No.7214574
    You see, Personally I think that the ghost is the most horrible of all monsters. It is a memory of what once was, and a perversion and distortion of the past. It represents all of our shortcomings as mortals. While being born from us, it is still our opposite, completely foreign. It cannot be killed, for it is already dead, it simply exists to corrupt and distort the future, a remnant of the past which does not belong.
    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)05:15 No.7214652
    OK, Either people are reading or I killed the thread...
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)05:15 No.7214656
    One thing is for certain. Frankenstein is only for steampunk fans and those looking for retro-kicks.

    ZOMG. A man made from dead flesh may have been horrifying in the 19th century. Meet my grandmother. She's got titanium knees, a dead person's heart and I dunno whatever other marvels ordinary medical students learn in their first year.

    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)05:18 No.7214704
    Which is why I vote we bring ghosts back.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)05:31 No.7214856
    Wow, this whole thread is a godsend, guys. I haven't browsed /tg/ in 6 months because of the flood of crap, but I come back for one night, and...

    ...holy shit. I've needed this inspiration; I haven't gotten through half the thread tonight but it's been bloody brilliant so far. God bless you all.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)05:38 No.7214928
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    This is why I like wayne barlowe's work. Shit is insane and difficult to comprehend, and, really, your mind doesn't want to sort the image data out.

    It really, really doesn't.
    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)05:40 No.7214957
    I was beginning to think everyone left for the "You are a potato" thread.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)05:42 No.7214980
    I have two ideas off the top of my head for the appearence of two creatures, without much background, maybe you could flesh them out?

    1. Little girl dressed up in 1940's 50's. dress, ribbons, dolllike etc, except her lower jaw has been torn from her skull with portions of bloody flesh hanging from her cheeks, and her tongue lolling out of her throat.

    2. A very pale, hairless hominid, almost translucent, with it's organs visible, it's heart pulsating against it's ribcage. It's enlarged eyes totally useless in the depths of its lair. on the end of it's short snout is a pair of moth's antennae with which it uses to track down prey and recieve communications from the colony. It's forearms appear to have been split between the radius and the ulna with two appendages ending in two sickle shaped claws.
    >> GRAMMAR PROCESSOR 101 12/20/09(Sun)05:45 No.7215013
    >It is heart
    >It is enlarged eyes
    >It is short snout
    >It is forearms
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)05:48 No.7215054

    Give me a break, I am high and just popped a valium, grammar is no longer a strongpoint.
    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)05:52 No.7215097
    >-Lower jaw removed- Silenced by another, forcibly made not to speak.
    >1. Little girl dressed up in 1940's 50's. dress, ribbons, dolllike etc, except her lower jaw has been torn from her skull with portions of bloody flesh hanging from her cheeks, and her tongue lolling out of her throat.

    Kind of like in the grudge, yeah. With my line of thought, the girl would probably have been raped and killed to keep her from telling anyone. Now she preys on anyone who has sex in the area where she haunts, probably a park. She tears off the jaws of men while they're fucking. Super creepy because anyone I say "who is without vision"/doesn't have second sight just sees his jaw randomly being slowly torn off. And he's just so in shock he just keeps fucking the chick while it's happening.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)05:57 No.7215153
    As far as predicting our future fears go, I'd say robots and Ubermensch (not Nietzsche's, but the genetically engineered super-men) are going to make a come back. When these monsters first turned up, it was because the ideas themselves were novel and it looked like they would be possible in the near future. It turned out the technological curve wasn't actually as quick and scary as it was made out to be, so these monsters died off for the most part. However, it's been a few decades since the heyday of these monsters. I for one fully expect that in twenty years I will have a second, bio-mechanical heart beating alongside my real one, pumping fuel to my artificial super-limbs, a single, ultra-efficient lung, all connected by my custom-tailored nerve circuits. I will never fall ill, my immune system will be genetically enhanced. My bones will be laced with carbon nanotubes, they will only break under dozens of tons of pressure. My body will be immortal. My sanity will not. What will we do when we have an aging population of slowly maddening, nigh-indestructible cyborgs?
    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)05:59 No.7215179
    >2. A very pale, hairless hominid, almost translucent, with it's organs visible, it's heart pulsating against it's ribcage. It's enlarged eyes totally useless in the depths of its lair. on the end of it's short snout is a pair of moth's antennae with which it uses to track down prey and recieve communications from the colony. It's forearms appear to have been split between the radius and the ulna with two appendages ending in two sickle shaped claws.

    Bonded/natural weapons signify feral rage and violent tendencies, or a natural proclivity towards violence. The utter divergence from humanoid form would symbolize a complete transformation, i.e. someone who accidentally killed someone, figured out they liked it and kept on killing. This person would seek out solitude to keep from getting caught. In death, they would seek out other like minded spirits, possibly forming colonies that would share in the kill. However, a colony suggests a leader, so possibly a gestalt consciousness similar to the legion type, with a concentrated hivemind will in a centralized body, which would probably be a demon which corrupts humans into these spirits, forming a symbiotic relationship. Kills would probably be brought before the central body and shared in by all in a orgiastic slaughter ritual, in which all parties involved would get to savor the tastes of the kill.
    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)06:01 No.7215195
    Society will be made up of the Necron Flayed Ones, that's what.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:02 No.7215209
    Oh man got distracted by black lagoon. Hang on.

    The Heaven Smiles were a sort of supernatural terrorist group. You probably already know that they are living suicide bombs that are either normally invisible or disguised as completely normal humans. They had no goal other then causing terror. They have a huge toothy grin that nearly split their heads i half and laugh constantly.

    They laugh because they are truly, honestly happy. Happy they have a purpose in life. To sacrifice themselves to kill at lest one human. They are terrorist taken to the supernatural extreme.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:03 No.7215226
    Sounds to me like an inversion of the normal route. Instead of the old fearing the young, the young will fear the old.

    Actually forget that last statement. Status quo. The old (a lot more of them, thanks to medical science) will fear the young. They know the young hate them for their lock on the good jobs, money and political power. It will be a revival of the vampire as eternally young somehow, but crossed with a Matlock plot in that it is always the kid that is guilty.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:03 No.7215233
    I like this thread. Has it been archived.?
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:05 No.7215247
    A monster is what people fear most. And what do modern people fear most? Loss. People are greedy, and cannot forgive losing things. But the problem is, material goods can be replaced. What cannot be replaced is the people you know, your friends and family, even simple co-workers and acquaintances.
    Imagine, if you will, that one day, you go to hang out with your best friend. He seems confused when you greet him, seeming to not recognize you immediately. He asks you, confusedly, why you are greeting him, as you were just together, having a good time. When you get home later, there's a message on your voice-mail from your girlfriend, commenting on the great day you two had, reminding you that you are meeting for dinner later. You haven't seen her in a couple days, and you call her, finding out what's going on. She doesn't recognize your voice, and hangs up when you claim to be her boyfriend. Concerned, you go to her house, and knock on the door. You hear her speaking inside, and then hear her walk up to the door. The light in the peep-hole is blacked out as she looks through it, and then she leaves the door unanswered. You knock again, frantically, and she finally opens the door. Worried, you ask why she ignores you, and she angrily claims to not know you, and slams the door.
    Miserable, you go back home. You can't find your key, but the back door is unlocked, so you enter through there. Your roommate is in the room you enter, and doesn't recognize you. He shouts at you to leave, that he'll call the cops. Suddenly, someone else enters the room. This person finally does recognize you, but all he does is give a sly wink, and then says, in a voice identical to yours, that you need to get out of his house.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:09 No.7215285
    I like this. It's based on a modern fear. And it's a race of creatures like vampires and werewolves rather then a unique individual monster or a bizarre paranormal phenomenon.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:09 No.7215294
    There was this one little movie I saw on the internet. It was sort of funny, sort of scary.

    There was this...thing. Like, a concrete block man.

    And it blocked a businessman's way. On purpose, I mean.

    The businessman, understandably, became irate. I'll see if I can find the video--like I said, it's sort of funny as well.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:10 No.7215297
    brb replaying killer 7.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:13 No.7215332
    By the way, if anyone else knows what I'm talking about--he danced, too. That was how it began.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:18 No.7215383
    Fuckin OP, stop putting fucking apostrophes at every damn pause you reach when your brain stops thinking, fuck!!
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:18 No.7215390
    check out the movie They Live, it's obviously dated but I think the concept and the social anxiety behind it can quite easily be adapted to the present day

    Full movie: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9005367754264973286&ei=IQUuS8_ZApOerALvt9C8BQ&q=The

    The values you have learned are a lie, a cover for a system of brutal alien oppression. It works by isolating you, keeping you afraid, trusting others superficially enough to comply, but absolute trust is impossible, anyone you know might be one of them. nevertheless the only way to fight this menace is through genuine trust. A lonely individual is nothing to them, there are no "heroes", isolated and individual, that's how they want you. What they fear is a genuine society, and so they create a fake society where trust and camaraderie are poison and everyone fears the only people that can save them: each other. And with good reason, you never know when your friend might just be One of Them.

    And They can be vampires, or a new form of unorthodox zombies. Maybe they are an aristocracy of beings fitting a loose vampire archetype that turn their most faithful human followers into sentient 'zombies' that pass for human but are "soulless" and unredeemable. Worst still, the process of transformation is not instantaneous, and even your "magic glasses" don't keep you safe. The real enemy is inside your head, you and your friends all have very good reasons to turn on each other and given in to Their power, and a lifetime of Their conditioning to make things harder for you.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:18 No.7215391
    Sort of. The thing is, the young will be even BETTER. They won't need the outdated mechanical upgrades of their elders. They will be born perfect, Tolkien's elves. Born smarter, stronger, faster, more efficient than any man before them. They won't need to eat, not in the traditional sense: they'll collect all the nutrients they need through their skin during their brief weekly sleep in a protein bath and a process similar to photosynthesis. They'll be able to beat your robotic prosthetic at arm wrestling, but worse than being stronger than you, they'll be faster. They won't lose any reaction time in the archaic mess of the neural links between your flesh and mechanics. And they'll think faster than you, too, they'll learn faster than you and be able to predict every move you make. You will have prolonged your life artificially, your children simply will not age.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:18 No.7215392

    FUCK I'm raging so hard I said apostrophes.


    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)06:19 No.7215400
    Not fishing for compliments or anything, but did anyone like my ideas? Just curious.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:21 No.7215421

    Fuck, seriously?! Do you write like that in your 11th grade English class? It must piss the teachers off so hard trying to read your wannabe-sophisticated handwriting with commas thrown in whenever you like to pause for emphasis.


    Sick of these cunts.

    Google colon and semicolon you twat.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:25 No.7215458
    I suppose the last sentence could have used a semicolon instead of a comma, but that's really a stylistic thing than a grammatical one. The rest of the commas are grammatically correct, thank you.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:26 No.7215465
    Thank you for making the terror of the Younger Gods clear.


    But as fast and expertly as the old protect themselves, throwing law and law down upon the young, they are just smarter and better than you. And they have no use for you, old one.

    Not sure if that kind of terror has been done before, besides the age-old one of the old hating the young.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:27 No.7215474
    *really more of
    Pardon my 5 AM grammar.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:28 No.7215486
    There's a colon in that post.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:34 No.7215530
    Sort of (this is a fragment, oh well). The thing is (clause), the young will be even BETTER. They won't need the outdated mechanical upgrades of their elders. They will be born perfect, Tolkien's elves (I suppose the comma here could be dropped, but it changes the meaning of the sentence). Born smarter, stronger, faster, more efficient than any man before them (that's a list). They won't need to eat, (clause separation, and given the connectivity of the two clauses it calls for a comma, not a semicolon) not in the traditional sense: (GASP A COLON) they'll collect all the nutrients they need through their skin during their brief weekly sleep in a protein bath and a process similar to photosynthesis. They'll be able to beat your robotic prosthetic at arm wrestling, (conjunction/clause) but worse than being stronger than you, (clause separation) they'll be faster. They won't lose any reaction time in the archaic mess of the neural links between your flesh and mechanics. And they'll think faster than you, too, ("too" needs commas around it) they'll learn faster than you and be able to predict every move you make. You will have prolonged your life artificially, (related clauses) your children simply will not age.
    >> Requiem !or0E28QEw2 12/20/09(Sun)06:36 No.7215542
    Wait, the new monster is a spreading meme of improper grammar, while simultaneously another arises which exists to combat the other?
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:36 No.7215544

    "Terminus". It used to be on YouTube, but it got removed. It's still up in .mov form on a site, though.

    I don't really know if that's the right sort of creepy. There's something to be said for how the thing operates, though. Something about perceived slights. I mean, it was dancing, wasn't it? Moving like that.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:38 No.7215557
    Yes, the terror of the 2010's, the Grammar Nazis. ZE COMMA GOES HEEYA.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:43 No.7215588
    Sorry, I'm not sure if my meaning was clear--I mean, the stone golem thing--it was doing its...dance, intentionally blocking the guy every time he tried to get away. And when the guy, desperate, finally kicked it, it started...just following him. For the perceived slight--that's what I mean. There's something in there. It's YOUR fault.

    There's also something in how nobody seems to want to acknowledge theirs at all, but that may be a whole separate other issue.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:48 No.7215636
    Still on youtube.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:49 No.7215643

    It just pisses me off, seeing these self-proclaimed 'GRAMMAR NAZIS' slap on a comma and a hyphen when they feel they need to add a descriptive comment, or a useless detail, onto an already long sentence.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:50 No.7215668

    Mants are simpily a variety of ant that has learned to co-exist with mankind. Inside of mankind, to be specific.

    Unlike other ants, their queen is very small and able to find its way into the human body through multiple means. It could go into your mouth while you are sleeping, in your butt just after you poop, up your nose just after you sneeze. It's very sneaky and has learned to enter the body while it is distracted. Once it is inside it waits until just the right time to start its work.

    It may be tiny but it's supernaturally tough and adaptive. So much so that it can absorb oxygen from human blood. If it needs to deficate, it does so by making a tiny hole in the colon and deficating there. A rare few can even manipulate the human brain, slowly making the host less active and perceptive so her work will be not as hard. In short, they manipulate the organ's function rather than just tunnel through it mindlessly.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:54 No.7215684
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    Oh man, all of this stuff is really, really good. Could i suggest one thing though? Perhaps more surreal/abstract creatures. Something doesn't necessarily have to be clawed or have tome toothy maw to be terrifying. I'd suggest some monsters based of Freudian psychology and surrealist artwork. Such things tend to seem a tad more timeless.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)06:55 No.7215692

    Try Dionaea house. google it.
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    See pic. Confusing the aztecs with the maya is like confusing Germany with Egypt.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)07:03 No.7215754
    The mants themselfs are so small it is virtually impossible to tell if you have sore muscles or being dug through by mants. Within time it is possible for others to tell because the host usually begins to limp, lose balance, and may even wake up one day eyes completly gone, as mants tend to eat the host's eyeballs.

    If the host is tough enough, millions of mants could be living in their body. But eventually it will be too much and the host's brain will shut off while the body keeps living, kept alive by the queen who had attached herself to the spine of the host.

    Bodies infested with mants have shown mutation, such as hardening of the skin, loss of bone structure, shrinking of the arms and hands, which lose their fingers and become a single point and growths on the bodies which become either extra legs or anntene-like appendages on the foreheads.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)07:06 No.7215784
    >If it needs to deficate, it does so by making a tiny hole in the colon and deficating there

    Read up on biology bub.
    Real parasites don't bother with shit like this.
    They just do it wherever they eat.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/09(Sun)10:07 No.7216789

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