Welcome to the Radon and Raiders thread! Setting/DH adaptation-building thread for a post-apocalypse British Isles where things went to shit in the 1950s. The land is littered with Zones of strange, reality-warping energy, and society has reverted to near-medieval levels as people fight off radioactive mutants and strange creatures.Last thread: >>68056499Archive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.htmlThread prompt: Let’s get some more rules and stat stuff worked out, people had started talking about how to do radiation again
Stat-wise so far, we mainly have quite a few weapons started out, such as>BarBasic300mRof - /S/-/10/Dam - 1d10+3IPen - 2Clip - 20/40Rld - full/2fullSpecial - noneWt - 9kgMelee stuff could do with developing, and things like armour and other things stalking the zones
Are you man enough to pilot a De Lackner Aerocycle? The US is aware of a few that were deployed for zone scouting.
>>68283193meant to say USKS
For radiation it seemed like adapting the corruption points from DH workedThe points from 0-100 could be translated onto Sieverts between nine and the fatal amount, with radiation received from different things either in single bursts or at a continuous rate from stuff like zone exposure in different tiers>>68283193I would not want to fall off one of those whilst it’s runningNot sure just how safe one would be in general
>>68284373> safety> in the era that invented the Davy CrockettI think you misunderstand just how important killing communists is anon.
>>68283193I can't quite believe that that was real. It looks like something that Wile W. Cayote would buy from ACME.
>>68287222We had fully functional jetpacks and everything. It's just that helecopters did pretty much the same thing for much less money and manpower.
>>68283193That looks like something found during the American Expedition that nobody is able to figure out a purpose for.
>>68287293Without going full admech on it, it would be funny for gleaners to recover designs for this from a zoneThe USKS pay top dollar for a relic of their forefathers, even manage to build one and then have no clue what to do with it
>>68288667https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oYS_5SgU_0&list=LLKiSviuB6mWkhwmoVafItDQ&index=3&t=0sjust look at this madness. The pre-fall Americans using them to rapidly scout the german zone would have been in a state of constant, pants soaking terror, flying a blender through a space time warping clusterfuck of spies and special forces.
>>68289173Germany in the fall must have been a real clusterfuck
>>68283193>You're just some scavenger in Southern England>No family, just you and your dog>Keep reminiscing about the past and how good it was>Come home one day with some random blue prints you found in some factory>Suddenly you hear a horrific "VVVVVVVVVEEEEEEERRRRRUUUUUUUUGHGHGHGHGH">You're in shock as you fly out of your door>Thousands and thousands of men on hoverboards fly over your head>All you can hear is a faint "HON HON HON">You fear for what is coming to Englandhttps://youtu.be/es1TlUTM950?t=67
>>68291012Considering that it was the location of the first Zone, was flooded by researchers from both sides, and the recipient for many of the War advancements, “Clusterfuck” is an apt description.
>>68289173It's like a Dark Eldar jetbike but somehow even stupider and more likely for a crash to redecorate the surroundings with shredded bits of the pilot.
Gonna post more weird/interesting cold war stuff to inspire pre-fall artifacts>what's better than a Davy Crockett>one on a flying saucer
>>68293396That would make for good “showboat” warfare. A weapon made for bragging and not actual use.Though one might be useful to scout over some of the more dangerous Zones.
>>68293396Seeing how the Zones gained strength from the nuclear war, using atomic weapons are an even worse idea at present than even during the War.
>fly by wire missile kits
>>68294305Is he guiding those rockets with a joystick?
>bandits love these things even more than stens, but have no idea why
>>68293396BLUE PEACOCK, the world's first chicken-heated nuclear land mine.Yes, this was a real thing.Or we have the AIR-2 Genie, because fuck your bomber formation Ivan, this is the ATOMIC AGE.
>>68294402Pretty much, yeah. Me and my friends like calling the Virtual Boy.
>>68294455Looks like it’s missing a stock and barrel attachment.
>>68295077I vaguely recall something about the USE and USKS in general preferring "ancestral" patterns of gun when they can be found and are affordable, with this mostly meaning they produce small amounts of Continental European and American guns for their most wealthy and influential figures and forces. BARs, M14s, Garands, etc. would be coveted by the mercenaries and adventurers of the Americans in Exile, with the same going for french firearms for New France and everything from FALs, STGs, and far flung prewar AKs in the Confederation.
>>68294574>nuclear land mine.I don't have a reaction image suitable for this so have some fingers. Nuclear land mine. Holy fucking shit.
>>68298509>CHICKEN>HEATEDProblem:>nuclear land mine may freeze over winter and fail to detonate during invasionSolution: >put a live chicken with enough feed to last the winter inside it, then check on it in spring
>>68298970How do you even think of that? We need warm = chicken. How do you make this connection?
>>68294574Chicken-heated? What the heck does that mean?
>>68300562Well this was way back, post war tech, and the electronics and circuitry had to stay above a certain temperature during the winter. How'd you go about heating something up without any maintenance or re-fuelling for half the year? You chuck a couple cocks on in there, with grain and shit to last the months away.
>>68301291That sounds like a crazy plan a player came up with that causes the GM to stare in bewilderment.It would be interesting to find a higher-tech machine surrounded by bird bones.
>>68294574>>68298970>>68300174>>68300562>>68301291>>68302579>Atomic PhoenixesBrightly colored and sickly greenish luminescent birds of prey lacking anatomical details generally considered important by natural selection like a digestive tract and reproductive system. They tend to avoid everything else living, inhabiting the most desolate and inhospitable places, although it's unclear if this is out of concern for other life or that anywhere with a phoenix living nearby is eventually going to become desolate and inhospitable.When they die, they explode. Rather powerfully and in a manner which leaves the land for about a kilometer around somehow poisoned for centuries to come. A baby phoenix or the prior phoenix somehow reborn is found at ground zero of the blast.
>>68302824Fortunately for everything else, the phoenix has an instinctively programmed territory where it goes to die.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephants%27_graveyardSave for accidents or people capturing phoenixes to kill them in a city full of their enemies, getting blown up by one can hopefully be avoided.
>>68302824>>68302834I can understand Radiation contamination with a diameter of a Kilometer, but what would be the bast radius of the explosion? And how many exist?
>>68302937On par with the nuclear weapons that created them. One phoenix. It never dies permanently.
Did we just make a Phoenix out of nuclear chicken mines?Thank you /tg/
>>68302824good work that man.Sadly i'm not aware of anything more cold war batshit than BLUE PEACOCK, which even by the standards of the day was regarded as a bit over the top.(seriously, a 10kt landmine, what were they anticipating, bolos?)But it does give us yet an other reason Germany is excitingly fucked up in this brave new world, because BLUE PEACOCK was going to the Fulda Gap for use by the BAotR, so our Atomic Phoenixes are probably the prettiest thing in Germany these days.
>>68303558That would be pretty big and disastrous. Let’s scale it back to something like the Yield of the Davy Crockett.Where would it live? I don’t think it would be in Britain, since it’s explosions would completely disrupt life in the Isles. So it’s likely somewhere in Europe, with its graveyard yet to be visited.
>>68304328Somewhere deep in the uninhabited lands or in zones could work, there’s a lot of it overall
>>68304328>>68305627I like the idea of them living around/near were the mines were being put originally in the North German Plain, maybe focused around the ruins of Kiel or Hamburg?
So we have a new potential method of slaying the Dragon of London; catapult nuclear chickens at it.
>>68307019>some dude from Murmansk goes to Germany to get a firebird to kill Rasputin/Koschei
>>68307019Feed it a phoenix.
>>68306648Would make sense for them have have come about from the mines, so around the border in germany
>>68291205Were-wolves with flight.
Rudloe Manor,2.2 million square feet of underground facilities including an aircraft workshop. And that's just the shit we know about.
>>68312072When was it made, and where is it located?Remember, the War happened in the mid 1950’s.
>>68312473From last thread>First excavated in the 30s. Has a complete aircraft factory and information processing centres among plenty of other things that are known. 2.2 million square feet of underground fun.>It's been believed since the 50s that there has been an alien space craft stored there and studied.>In this timeline it was probably the centre for Zone studiesIt sounds ideal for a sort of dungeon, could be filled with god knows what
>>68312072Looking into old-age zone labs or planes could lead to the place, then it’s just a matter of whats actually inside
>>68312473It was excavated in the 30s
Everything went to shit in the 50s. Sputnik was launched in the 50s. Is there a Sputnik and what happened to it?
>>68318542It crashed long ago. The instigating incident was a Soviet attempt to get a man into space that failed in our timeline.
>>68303841It's objectively no stupider than nuclear chicken mines.
>>68298509How common should minor shit like extra digits or webbed toes be?
>>68321778People living a tad close to the zones for comfort probably have stuff like that often enoughI remember someone talking about a noble family always wearing thick gloves for fear that they would be lynched if the people ever realised the great curse of their bloodline... of four fingers
>>68322453and jaundice. can't forget the jaundice.
>>68321778A bit less common than cancer, but a sign you are becoming a Changed One. Mostly on the side of Touched rather than being full-on Turned.
>>68323742Having more malignancies from the zones could increase chance of changing rather than dying to a fatal dose of radiation, but I think it should still overall be down to GM decision if somebody turns or not
>>68283193Why in God's name would you put the propeller on the bottom
>>68325239Operators will never ever fall off for fear of blendering
>>68325239I can see some madman attempting to use it against beasts like a flying blender, only to crash spectacularly.
>>68324968Becoming a Changed One is actually beneficial to those with malignancies, since those problems tend to be healed or fade once changed. It’s More pronounced when becoming a Turned than when Touched.
>>68329464Old stuff had it that Changed Ones tended to be pretty disfigured in one way or another, but most with hopes of travelling around more densely populated areas get good at covering these up as to not be outed
>>68330226Well, i guess “malignancies” was the wrong word to use. They just don’t suffer the downsides of radiation burns or suddenly get cancer.
>>68330458Sounds good, even if the changing left them disfigured they can handle zones and radiation far better than normal people, the only risk being very large doses or exerting themselves with their power pushing them closer to succumbing to the curse and losing their shit whilst they set alight
>>68330596Some rad-wizards can fry themselves if pushed too far, Fomorians become more feral at old age, and Horned ones become more like Horned Ones. There’s a price to their abilities, and it isn’t just the transformation.
>>68330596I would say that losing what makes them a person rather than an animal is a common fear in Turned.
>>68331340It's possible that the Fomorians are not going more feral with age but with exposure. Until a sufficiently large test group is removed from Ireland and observed over an extended time we'll never know for sure.
I was looking at how to adapt radiation again, and corruption points still seem good to use, though when it comes to the mutations from them I’m not sure we should keep the normal list entirelyPerhaps as things can be done to lower someone’s irradiation, malignancies can be removed as the points go below the point that gave them, but mutations are more permanent?Changed ones are stuck with their malignancies and mutations from their corruption/radiation going up to the fatal dose and not dying
>>68335901Malignancies can be removed, and radiation can be lowered thanks to an anti-Rad plant found in the London Swamp.
>>68336614If he didn’t bring down the Zone in his crash, Balor would have become yet another lost cosmonaut.
>>68282965Dobhar-Chú. One of the water beasts of Ireland.A simple otter made giant and ferocious by the Zone, or a beast that has always been around.
Are there vampires in this setting?
>>68339402Simple but nice!>>68340272Haven’t had anything of that sort yet but if you can think of a good way to fit them in somewhere then go for it!If I remember right Whitby has all that stuff going for them with Dracula, might make a good point to start with
>>68340272There aren’t any real vampires. No “riding the moonlight”, not “doesn’t appear in mirrors”, and not “can turn into an animal”. There are some in Europe whose mutations make them sensitive to sunlight, and others who like the taste of blood, you aren’t going to find any blatantly magical like real vampires.
>>68337260Should have some other means to lower it as well, not everyone in the isles will be able to get hold of that stuff at all times
>>68342037Nessie does like to get close to her followers. Shy she is not.
>>68343746It can maybe be cultivated outside the London Swampland but it's not easy. It has odd requirements when you try to grow it away from it's native bogs. Like human blood, about a pint a month for a full grown bush.
>>68345985It grows just as well with pig blood that has been tainted with radiation, but the soil, humidity, and sun need to be as close to its native bog as possible, and a bush takes a full growing season to reach the proper potency.
>>68347202There was a group somewhere around the midlands starting all over again underground, to mixed results once the moles started to appear
>>68347202We’ve already got Morlocks in the Switzerland bunkers.
>>68346887There's also the sorry that if you spread it into another Zone then the other Zone might get Londonformed. If this happens another Dragon might appear.
>>68312072Under Rudloe Manor is possibly the last continuous link to the old government of Great Britain, in those vaulted halls hangs a faded flag in red and white and blue. The people there and about it have an odd cant to their speech now due to linguistic drift and isolation but it's probably closer to the original English than the pidgin speech and hybrid tongues of the other nations.There are probably no more than a few hundred, a thousand tops, descended from the officers and officials and their families and their friends that sought shelter in the bleak days when the world ended.
>>68350528Nah, the Zones don’t work like that.
>>68352560We know that. A lot of people in-setting probably don't know that.
>>68352592It’s more likely for a Zone to absorb smaller zone materials, rather than those materials infecting a Zone.Though the rumor likely gained weight due to that guy gathering so much unrefined Zone Metals that they turned their keep into a Zone in and of itself.
>>68294455Does not look comfortable to hold.
>>68351408>They only hold some of the underground space, much of the rest is crawling with beasts from the facilities’ past, those that have burrowed inside at some point or insane and mutated break-offs of the human population
>>68356018It's very likely that those tunnels in this timeline are substantially extended.
>>68356533More places like it dotted around could work, though not too numerousWould work for some of the more serious equivalents to a dungeon, old-age bunkers and facilities filled with their old experiments and god knows what
So most dungeons are probably going to be in zones, what with all the emphasis on scavenging stuff from them, does that mean a party are essentially on a sort of time limit due to the radiation?
>>68359080Yes, extended by shit like having protective clothing and the anti-rad herb. And by already being Changed in some way if they were incautious before .
>>68359763I would say that the existence of the anti-Rad herb bush is the biggest reason as to why the British Isles, specifically England, are able to hold enough people to produce multiple kingdoms. Proper medicine does more for keeping people alive than anything else except food.
>>68361290That could explain some of the zones being less harsh, aside from dumb luck
>>68359763>>68361290How effective should the poultice made from the herb bush be?
>As rad-vines take in radiation they swell and thicken until they can take no more>Whilst it is used to draw the taint of the zones out of people, it still draws from all of its surroundings, so unless stored properly it cannot be taken into zones, lest it waste itself>Due to the manner in which it works, gleaners recovering it from the outskirts of the Great London Swamp must cut it from the greater plant and get it out before it is ruined, or store it to properly shield it from the radiation
>>68364173Depends on how fresh the herb is.
>>68351408I'm imagining something not unlike the Brotherhood of Steel but with a way lower tech base.
>>68367069Order of Saint Turing are also sort of doing that, only with technology peaking in the 50s and being obsessed with expanding their great computers that fill the monasteries
>>68367380They could cooperate and be trying to reach the same basic goals, but not quite and employing differing methods and be doing it for different reasons.The Order of Saint Turing want to make The Zones habitable for humanity, either by altering/removing the Zones or by finding a way to reliably survive and live in them. They do it for the good of all people and don't get involved in politics much beyond securing sources of supply and right of travel.The Rudloe Order on the other hand claim legitimacy from the fact that they are a direct continuation from the British military. They want to reunify The Isles under their rightful rule, but they are also very aware that they don't have a hope in hell of ever doing so.
>>68364173As potent as the situation needs by the DM.
>>68367533The Order had been more focussed on just hoarding their stuff and expanding their machines, sending mercs and gleaners scavenging for parts and knowledge in the zones expendablyThey’re still alright with any populace near them but they’ve mostly just used their stores of tech and knowledge as bargaining power to further their own ends
>>68368075That’s a bit too vague. The players should be able to purchase with the plant or poultice, so it should have some sort of standard range of effectiveness.
There's probably some side effect of the anti-rad herb. Nothing is without price.
>>68369912The side-effects are nothing major, and nothing medicine hasn’t seen before. The healing process still has to take place as the radiation damage is removed, and some people can develop an allergy to the plant, but there is nothing that would offset the massive benefits it brings as a medicine.
>>68367069I'd have The Professor be from here rather than Oxford as everyone assumes.
>>68371955Nobody but him is certain of where he comes from.
>>68373985If one could extend the mask to cover the rest of the face, that would be an interesting helmet/mask design.
>>68372902He might not be. His brain is fucking scrambled.
>>68367069The scribes are wearing tweed. There are leather patches on the elbows of the robes.
>>68373985>>68375109That sounds suspiciously familiar.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8XddGIaLaU
>>68292059>>68291205>>68311239Fucking god.>>68302824Cool idea! Weird but themed monsters are probably needed to flesh out our thin ranks of different zone beasts.>>68339402Nice, this helps with the above problem. Looks a bit too cartoony for the setting in this image, but the concept is really funky.>>68321778I think Touched people are supposed to be 1:1000, so I guess around this? You probably don't count as Touched with this level of change, but there wouldn't be that many people living near enough to be mutated but far enough to not be Touched.Unless we count any mutation as Touched, then they'd be 1 in 1000!>>68327662>Spinning shuriken launcher>Except you are standing on the shuriken>>68331340Generally speaking, unless you're a megalomaniac villain or an insanely driven fighter, being Turned is never a good thing. Say goodbye to normal relationships or a stable lifestyle for good.>>68357671After diving though several of these outlier dungeons, players finding out they're all part of one, massive, 300 KM square tunnel system would be awesome. >>68364173>>68368820We should probably sort out a proper radiation scale first. Weren't we just adapting DH's corruption table? Probably something along the lines of "one vial, double the price of a basic health potion that heals 10% of your health, will reduce your Touched level by 10%". So, expensive for the average peasant, and probably unnecessary unless they're very unlucky, but a known expenditure for adventurers.I can't think of the fucking word for that, means "thing that you know you have to pay to do something", I'm tired and retarded, sorry.>>68368803>>68367533A Rudloe Order could be interesting, but I suggest they are more akin to a mercenary group in format (I know not in function), as they have less of a fixed territory-or potentially a more fixed one, depending on how you look at it. Either way, we have plenty of nations, but few more neutral factions.
>>68378986The Dobhar-Chu is basically a giant aggressive Otter mutated to have tougher skin, fangs, and claws to survive the aquatic Zones.
>>68378986The midlands’ defining factor currently is probably their lack of large wars or anything similar, the people in Rudlow could work as a rather neutral party
>>68380070Stuff like that also helps make coastal areas dangerous, even when it’s shallow enough to not have to worry about sea-beasts fucking shit up
>>68335246Each factor there does tend to rise with the other either way
>>68376816It's debatable how much is genuine madness and how much is him hamming it up. Rudloe, Oxford or any number of other places he could have come from and he has at one time or another claimed all an none but has had dealings with every one of them and others.
>>68380733Thankfully they make their home around Ireland.
>>68384414The Professor should only be used sparingly as an NPC, he could get annoying really fast if over exposed.
>>68385961Yah. His main appeal is being found researching in places he should by all rights be incapable of reaching, then helping the party in some small way, like a mention of a harsh beast they had to avoid, some pile of Zone metal ore, or a map of the local zone.
Aside from radiation and insanity, which we’ve got a good idea for adapting, any other facets of DH rules that need adapting?We could try to stay more stuff to work it all out>>68385233That could add more peril to crossing the Irish Sea
>>68387652I would say that they are one of the more annoying beasts for Nessie to fight, since they always fight in pairs.
>>68390063Annoying is probably quite right. They have started to spread into Argyll and Nessie likes to catch fish in that area. She isn't happy that they are eating her fish or her people.
>>68391003It being able to run on land and attacking in pairs could also make them difficult to fight.
>>68387652Whilst DH generally seems good for this, are there really any things that could work in the higher levels of stuff in DH in terms of equipment?
>>68392376Hell, most wildlife pumped full of zone-taint can be terrifying, and that’s before the stuff without any obvious predecessors come in
>>68387652>>68395134So more beasts worth statting then? We’ve already got almost too many guns seeing as armour and melee are virtually untouched
>>68396437We need to give the ones we have already stats. They need them.
>>68398263That was the ideaAnything else in need of adapting aside from stats?
>>68392376attacking in pairs doesn't mean much if they can't see what they are attacking. Nessie can't be sensibly observed and this doesn't just apply to humans. They are not a threat to her, they are a threat to her people who she is quite protective of and they eat her fish. Sadly Monster Otters can go on land to get away from her and she is stuck in the sea. Nessie can't remove them from Argyll and surrounding islands or stop their advance across the mainland. That would require human effort, sadly she relies on Nimuë to communicate with humans and she doesn't human very well.Also her humans are more concerned with the Horned Men, Icelanders, each other and other nations of human to make the dedicated effort required. Also reluctance because Dobhar-Chu are fucking terrifying.
>>68402991Just because she can shift her form doesn’t mean there’s no form. Nessie has had to recruit her followers in the removal of some parasites that were on her before.
>>68396437Thankfully for the ocean, you would only need to increase the size of animals already there for them to become a threat.
so current monsters in need of stats- Nessie Parasites- Spriggans Type A (Screamers)- Spriggans Type B (Rock hide)- German Ghouls- German Radio Zombies- Dobhar Chu- Stitched- Russian Chimerae- Swiss Morlocks (Mutant Type A)- Swiss Goblins (Mutant Type B)- The actual Swiss because iirc they're not human any more either- Loup de FrancaisAny i've missed?
>>68408336There are Rad-Wizards- Hounds that seem to fans in and out of existence- Big cat beasts that look like a mix of panthers and mountain Lions.- Fomorians and their elder form Vigilant Ones
>>68408501yeah i deliberately left wizards out because lots of variation + possible pc class, as well as animals that aren't actually anomalous, even if unusual.Fomor i think are a large & varied enough thing to require distinct design work of their own rather than just coming under that general monster heading.So, fading dogs, call 'em "Shucks" because Black Shuck was the name for the big scary black dog of misfortune in british folklore.
>>68408731The biggest problem when dealing with Black Shucks is that they look like a normal dog or wolf.
>>68408959Until they go on the attack, that is.
>>68408731That is quite the unassuming name for something so horrifying.
Bamp until I have time to type stuff up
>>68408959>>68408731We did also have cornerdogs, keep your eyes on them or they’re gone and coming out the wall behind youSound Scottish by nature, but not unique to the area, just thankfully rare
>>68413425you insult me
>>68413425That would be a kind of monstrosity to be found in Europe.
>>68411904Wouldn’t be surprised if they turn out to be a different breed of the Black Dogs.
>>68413425Looks like it could be from the Red Army.
>>68408977I remember they were able to shift between the hills of England and some sandy Desert. I wonder which desert, in case a player gets pulled along.
>>68416896the reds are still biologically human. Mentally, not so much, but biologically, they could still pass for people.
>>68411904How hostile are they?
>>68419996I’d say territorial and happy to go after people to eat if they need to
>>68419996Enough that they attack even when alone.
Does tea have any special properties?
>>68424874Just getting the stuff is hard, giving it more valueEither it’s being pulled from a zone that’s managed to preserve it, in which case being in a zone for so long will probably make it a bit dodgy, or it’s being grown in Leicestershire
>>68425672What would be some good mechanics and rules for growing tea? It could be very fun to play tea plantation owners/workers in a fucked up world after the ending of the world.Why would there be tea plantations you might wonder? Because it's Britain and we need it and it's not like we can get it from China and India at this point.
>>68427846You can grow your own tea in the UK easily enough, it aint tea bags but its something.https://www.waltons.co.uk/blog/how-to-grow-your-own-tea
>>68428518>>68427846Lincolnshire or Leicestershire, I forget which, have been trying to grow the stuff properly on a large scale along with other things long lost as the seas became deadly
>>68413425>A couple of men wander into a zone searching for someone dragged away by ghouls>This comes out a few hours later
>>68430254I think it was LincolnshireWith stuff like that and being in a rather peaceful area they must be doing well for themselvesSo what’s going to happen eventually in the midlands? They can’t stay neutral forever
>>68434859The London Dragon can be disturbed by the players, and that disturbance can make the other beasts of the Swamp start fleeing north into the Midlands.
>>68282965what stats do you need in order to swim the english canal?
>>68435138How often does the Dragon become active when left on it's own.
>>68435138That might be a bit similar to the USKS situation where most of them seem to be going anyway, enough for force any equipment they can salvage into the zone-bordersAlso Hadrians wall is going through similar
>>68438907Not often. It's rampages are a grandparent recounting to grandchild level of rarity. Patroling within the London swampland is more common, even if it does drive them out of the swampland it's probably killed more Zone monsters than any two mercenary or knightly orders put together
>>68436836Low Int. There's a boat
>>68427846It's used in greeting ceremonies between anyone who is anyone.
>>68294574The worst thing is, they're weren't even built to destroy the Soviets. They were made to deny Germany to the Soviets "not only destroy facilities and installations over a large area, but ... deny occupation of the area to an enemy for an appreciable time due to contamination"
>>68444574>deny occupation of the area to an enemy for an appreciable time
300 dollars bro
>>68444574I suppose Germany has now been denied to humanity for a very, very long time, if the clusterfuck there ever does end
>>68446276get this nasty shit outta here, this is a blue board, no gore.which leads me to the ww1 optical sights on forgotten weapons which i now want to combine with a charlton for maximum enfield operator.
>>68442486There are also sea monsters to whom said boat would be a light snack at best.
>>68449379nah the channel is pretty clear, even aside from USKS or VANGUARD sweeps, the obstacle has never been there, it's always been europe itself being the murderdome.
>>68449654>>68449379The channel is at least a short enough distance to easily cross during a quiet period, so as long as you can afford to wait for the right time it’s not too deadly
>>68446276Reminds me, need to work out stats for shoddier post-fall guns and such aside from the bastard-stem that was already done
>>68452295*bastard sten, whoops>StenBasic100mRof - /S/-/10/Dam - 1d10+2IPen - 1Clip - 32Rld - fullSpecial - noneWt - 3.2kg>Bastard StenBasic70mRof - /S/-/7/Dam - 1d10+1IPen - 1Clip - 25Rld - fullSpecial - noneWt - 3.5kg
>>68450229There is enough safety that there is an outpost on the tip of Brittany.
>>68457835There's also one on Greenland, it doesn't mean that they get visitors often.
>>68452641A few more from before:>Hi-powerPistol25mRof - /S/-/-/Dam - 1d10+1IPen - 1Clip - 13or15 9mm/10 .40s&wRld - fullSpecial - noneWt - 1kgPerhaps revolvers should get reliable or something like that to make them not a direct downgrade>BrenHeavy275mRof - /S/-/10/Dam - 1d10+3IPen - 2Clip - 20/30/100Rld - full/2full for pan magazinesSpecial - storm, reliableWt - 10kg>BarBasic300mRof - /S/-/10/Dam - 1d10+3IPen - 2Clip - 20/40Rld - full/2fullSpecial - noneWt - 9kg>WelrodPistol12mRof - /S/-/-/Dam - 1d10+1IPen - 1Clip - 6/8Rld - fullSpecial - inbuilt-silencer(Enemy Has -20 On Awareness To Hear The Shot. Moreover Detection Can Only Be Attempted At Half The Normal Range.)Wt - 1.5kg
>>68459718>EM-2Basic350mRof - /S/-/10/Dam - 1d10+4IPen - 3Clip - 20Rld - fullSpecial - accurateWt - 3.5kg>StirlingBasic100mRof - /S/-/10/Dam - 1d10+2IPen - 1Clip - 34Rld - fullSpecial - reliableWt - 2.7kg>TommyBasic75mRof - /S/-/10/Dam - 1d10+2IPen - 1Clip - between 20 and 100 round drumsRld - fullSpecial - noneWt - 4.9kg>Webley revolverPistol25mRof - /S/-/-/Dam - 1d10+1IPen - 1Clip - 6Rld - fullSpecial - noneWt - 1.1kg
>>68454510That thing would probably be found somewhere in Turkey, likely near the Black Sea or Mediterranean.
>>68450229>>68449654The channel is rather safe since it isn’t seen as a hunting ground for any beasts. It’s mainly used as a traveling path between the North Sea and Atlantic.
>>68463811The channel was a bloodbath back in the Dunkirk evacuation, to the extent that it’s now a graveyard of ships, most of the Royal Navy was wiped out there or crippled holding a corridor open for the evacuationNo off-land water crossing is entirely safe, but the short distance makes it easy for those who can wait for the right timeThe array of shipwrecks that litter the channel can be hazardous, but could hold stuff of value if
>>68466171Giant hermit crabs using sunken ships as their shells.
>>68466171There was one ship amongst the last still floating that managed to gun two beasts down before ramming a third apart, covering the last evacuees>>68467868Sounds like a good reason to avoid wrecks that seem to have moved since you last saw them
>>68469462Ok, what on earth was that?
Gargoyles have added to the dangers of zones, and reasons to look carefully at irradiated churches, but what has become of seagulls?Are they even more formidable dive bombers than they are now?
>>68470994They haven’t really changed much outside of adapting to resist radiation. Their feathers are now a bit metallic, for one. Otherwise, they are still the simple scavengers who will descend upon unclaimed food or sea beast corpses.
>>68468177This is one potential origin of Ironclad.
>>68472096It seems a waste to cut people from that list of prey for it
>>68474274Not every mutation is extremely hostile with a taste for human blood.
>>68476241But that’s how seagulls are by default!
>>68476522That is true, but I think the Seas are already dangerous enough without the gills going all Hitchcocks “The Birds” on anyone near the shore.Besides, we’ve already made several groups who make their living on or around the water, and them having to constantly deal with killer birds would hinder them too much.
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>>68477289Yeah, can’t all be Birdemic: Shock and Terror, even if a rare murderous giant seagull would be funThere will be creatures out there that cane about from the zones that aren’t out to eat your legs also>>68477428That is just a few, it’s probably easiest to just look on suptg overall as they all have an obvious name and are numbered, aside from the cavalry thread that started it allSpeaking of, we should take a look at cavalry again, also mechanically, seeing as this all started from post-apocalyptic cavalry
>>68476241>>68477673Under odd stuff that doesn’t want to kill you, I guess there’s some of those dodgy horses and other minor things so far but a pretty big lack of anything else like that
>>68444070I like the idea that tea has become ceremonial. It's a logical exageration of current trends.
>>68481577I guess it’s also valuable enough to almost make sense to be treated like that
>>68460811Also need to cover some more old fashioned ranged weaponry alongside this
>>68474269If you’ll rename it to thunderchild then go for it
>>68488867That would be too on the nose.
>>68407633That thing looks horrifyingShows why the ocean can be such a no-go
>>68492739That's awesome! Thanks for indirectly introducing me to this great looking game.
>>68484651How much of a rarity should it be? How far down the pecking order do you have to be to get hold of it?
>>68498920Good question, we should figure what sort of scale Lincolnshire is producing it on, aside from them it’s a rarity being dragged out of zones, so you’re paying professionals to get it
>>68496039So we have hordes of territorial birds fighting each other over food, and the occasional seagull dive bombing peoples food and livestockI remember someone talked about a sort of great sky-beast resembling a Stuka that could nest in some high place and then “strafe” those who come too close to its land, a sort of spiritual remnant of the blitz before the world ended
>>68502755Something like an aerial version of one of the crabs?>>68492739
Man, I just want a big electric cyanide beast.Yeah.Fuckin metal.
>>68501452Growing tea in Zones seems like it would backfire horribly on the drinker.
>>68506693They’re pulling the old stuff from the zones, that growing operation is in safe land at the least
>>68506693I'm all for the London anti-rad herb being a form of tea, anything with tea in it has to be good.
Bump till I have time to type up
>>68509776Words to live by.
>>68509776That could give more value to the stuff dragged out of zones, even if it doesn’t replace the vines>>68512151Amen
>>68504441Stuff in the ocean is pretty nasty, I’d say giving some of the stuff down there arms couldn’t go wrong in any way