>PREVIOUS THREAD:>>>65114001Wiki (HELP NEEDED!):https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Nobledark_Imperiumhttps://1d4chan.org/wiki/Category:Nobledark_Imperiumhttps://1d4chan.org/wiki/Nobledark_Imperium_Notes (oh god somebody please help)LAST TIME ON NOBLEDARK IMPERIUM:>More on the politics of the McConnell Corp and the family’s lazy playboy>Kurnous and the Trials of Isha, and whether the same applied to the Emperor>Zarakynel tries to be a homewrecker>DOOMRIDER, the surprisingly amoral daemon prince who does what he wants>Perspectives of immortality>Daemon weapons>And moreWHAT WE (also) NEED:>More stories or codex entries for Nobledark Imperium. Anything that gets stuff off of the Notes page or floating around in space and into concrete codex entries would be appreciated.>STUFF KEEPS GETTING LOST FROM THREAD TO THREADand, of course...>More bugs>More 'crons>More daemons and orks wouldn't be bad either>And more Nobledark battles
>Implying Nurglites are physical enough to perform those dance movesCronedar, sure, but Nurglites would rather let spores or something do the work for them.
>>65418021Did Zarakynel only try it once or was there more?
>>65418246>nurglettes that seizure to shake dat booty
>>65419137after the first shot the Golden Man bod was kinda ineffective for its intended purpose, seeing as Oscar knew it was possessed by a deamon, but it could be put plenty other uses
>>65419302Having a working Woman of Gold would be a game changer. Oscar manager to kill Lady Malys.The body is not functional, little more than a skin.
>>65419513yeah, its a walking (deity) digested corpse, but even then, the GaBHD made the greatest synthesis of Necron and Old One tech in galactic history
Does the Silent King's capital world have a name? I don't think we've ever discussed where he actually spends his time, galactically.
>>65420105Not that we've seen or said, but we need one.
>>65418021There might not have been trials as such, she wanted this as much as he did and there was more at stake than just the two of them.
>>65421581It was suggested that she retroactively issued challenges like "make a home for my children" and considered the Imperium it's completion.
Loving Eldar waifus when?
>>65420105Mandragora. He's using Imotekh's because the Necron homeworld is lost.
>>65422328It would make sense as Imotekh is his favourite general beating stick.
>>65422005Pretty much since day one of the project.
>>65422872So did Szarekh enter the great sleep on Mandragora? Was it his working capital during the end of the War in Heaven, and subsequently the breaking of the C’tan. If the Necron home system was lost in the War in Heaven it could represent a very interesting turn in Necron culture, when they are made to face their love/hate cultural relationship with their homeworld.
>>65425272>Old Ones destroy the shitty deathworld the Necron grew up on>Necrons can’t decide what their sum societal response should amount to>on one hand they always hated that place, they had moved well beyond it, and all they retained from it was a society of misery, and the frogs can get fucked if they think they’re gonna hurt Necron morale>on the other, how fucking dare the motherfucking Sload touch the Necron homeworld. Sure it was a shitty irradiated pebble, but it was their shitty irradiated pebble, and after all their woes such a deprivation would see their culture go mad even before the degradations of time and sleep.
>>65425272>>65426240They probably did keep it as their throne but modified. Solar shades, atmospheric manipulation, magnetic deflection shields among other things. The place was shit but it was a status thing more than anything, civilization (the only real civilization) had grown up there.
>>65426727It’s interesting to consider the enmity between the Old Ones and the Necrons, in your example I suppose I’m drawn to imagine the ways the Necrons would rationalize/articulate the superior civility of their own civilization against the longtime rulers of the galaxy. Would they argue that warpcraft couldn’t constitute technology or knowledge? Would it be that the old ones were irreparably decadent and cruel to lesser creatures? Whatever the high ground they chose, it was lost in the war, where no boundary was left uncrossed.
>>65425272Another option would be its destruction in the conflict with the C’tan following the war in Heaven. If anywhere to be so shot through with reality pinning pylons even the Old Ones couldn’t touch it, the Necron homeworld would be a probable candidate. Following from that, the C’tan seem like the only other force that could threaten the Necron homeworld. It’s another pretty interesting scenario to consider the homeworld itself was a casualty of the war upon the Star Gods, whether smote by the Nightbringer, accidentally shattered by cosmic warfare, or even sacrificed in the process of atomizing the Deceiver, it would drive home the cataclysmic scale of what was ultimately a mere epilogue to the War in Heaven.
>>65427981They would say that "magic" isn't the same as technological advancement. It's art, maybe.To the Necrontyr there was no reason behind how the warp worked and so nothing to learn.
>>65427981According to "the Accounting of Trazyn the Infinite", the Necrontyr saw the Old Ones as indiscriminantly and unempathetically playing god with everyone else when they found out the Old Ones had intentionally left them alone on their homeworld to try and accelerate their cultural development. Which wasn't untrue but omits the Old Ones' more positive motivation of trying to spread life and sapience everywhere and was also massively projecting the Necrontyr's own insecurities onto the Old Ones. The Necrontyr saw themselves as the eldest child who despite being less strong has to stand up to the abusive parent and tell them "no more". They didn't think they were the best, they thought they were the best who weren't also morally bankrupt. One of the phrases which keeps getting used by them is "any god that would do such things deserves to get dragged from their throne", used to refer to both the C'tan and Old Ones.The Old Ones saw the Necrontyr as their potential heirs (in a sidekick sense) but thought as a species they needed to grow up and get over their entitlement issues. They never understood why the Necrons took their response of "you need to figure it out yourself" in regards to immortality so poorly (because they had the emotional intelligence of a wet paper bag).>>65426240>>65426727I think we said they did keep it for exactly that reason. It was a complete shithole but it was theirs, and they almost kept it around as if to punish the very world they grew up on rather than just leaving.We said it was also a status/white elephant thing. Holding the homeworld was a complete bitch as no one wanted to live there, but it was also a symbol of legitimacy for the triarchy (and from a socio-political standpoint, if you could hold the homeworld it meant you had resources to spare). Which fits well with our description of the Necrontyr/Necrons as being governed by spite.
>>65430148I wonder if the Silent King collected a bunch of whatever rubble was left and built his palace out of it, so that he could still say he ruled from the homeworld.
>>65434880>Szarekh's palace bunker on Mandragora is built from the irradiated surface stone of the home world >He's hardwired reverence for the material into the minds of his subjects
>>65428503C'tan taking out the Necron homeworld sounds good, it gives them a definite and major victory for that war.
i was rereading old threads, someone mentioned 'pure imagination' as the Taskmaster's theme song
>>65436539And just like Willy Wonka the Taskmaster likes doing strange and unpleasant things to children.
>>65430148The Old Ones, when you take away basic emotional reactions to things, were objectively right. They made a race with enough of a life span to impart knowledge to the next generation but due to the environment (that might have been engineered or more likely with the C'tan in the sun was just taken advantage of and not corrected) were short lived enough that traditions and attitudes change very quickly. At least in the early days before writing and the invention of suspended animation machines that allowed the hereditary aristocracy to leap-frog through time.And it wasn't successors they wanted. There was never a consideration of succession, the Old Ones were going to be around forever. They just wanted someone to interact with as equals maybe. Maybe they were doing it for their needs or for the Necrontyr's "own good" as they saw it or maybe a bit of both.The Old Ones never inflicted cruelty on the Necrontyr so much as sat back and watched whilst someone else suffered even though it would have been nearly no effort to help. And they did this for tens if not hundreds of thousand or even millions of years and then came out with empty self righteous platitudes when the Necrontyr were advanced enough to directly beg for help.Which is not to say that the Necrontyr reaction was a shining example of good behaviour as it amounted to dedicating their entire civilization for the foreseeable future to the extermination of the Old Ones. The crown intentionally used the hate to unify the far colonies but the hate was very real.And nothing has worked right since the first shot was fired.
>>65422005When the Impossible Child is born.
>>65419137The beatdown was severe enough that she never tried again. Only the mad Nurglite bint was stupid enough to think that Nurglettes would be a good idea with any possibility of success.
>>65436722well there's that, but also like Willy Wonka the Taskmaster keeps it all at arms length, governed by unclear rules and expectations, and he does it nominally for some higher purpose that still only amounts to his enjoyment in serving what he sees as a beautiful creation that has taken on a life beyond him.
>>65437221the early War in Heaven seems almost comparable to conflict between humanity and the Xeelee in the Xeelee sequence, up until the deal is cut with the boltzmann brain star gods and the shit really hits the fan.
>>65436539What would Bright Blue Cockatoo's song be?
>>65435638Which one should it have been that did it?
>>65443103played on the theremin
>>65435880He'd just glare at you. He isn't a diplomat
>>65445428It could have been when Szarekh had his "party". But I'd put money on it being the Nightbringer.
>>65449836Yeah, either the Nightbringer finally finished the job on the Necron home world many millennia late, or blowing the home world to dust was the only way to get the Deceiver who was entrenched there
I have written a thing:https://pastebin.com/LEjgZZCXIt's based on a discussion we had a good while ago about a duel between Obyron (Nemesor Zandrekh's right hand necron) and Imotekh. It's not great, but I went ahead and wrote it so by god I'm going to post it. Let me know what you think.
>>65454567good on you to actually produce something
>>65454567I like it. It's a little clunky but other than that very well done.
>>65454567Is good shit man
>>65441500What are xeelee?
>>65445428Maybe this is what made the Silent King flip against The Flayer.
>>65460036The Xeelee are a Kardishev Type IV civilization from a series of novels and short stories by Stephen Baxter. The overarching plot of these stories is a billions of years long future history of human and posthuman civilization, and many of the stories are devoted to a galaxy spanning war between humans and Xeelee.
>>65426727How much could they have prettied it up and it still have been Necrontyr Homeworld Classic™ for that iconic prestige?
>>65422328What was Mandragora like as a planet.
>>65464799well, the only picture I could find of it seems to depict a swirling green atmosphere, and its stasis tombs were described as filled to capacity. Its presumably very heavily developed, only falling short of being a world engine because engines would take up space that was instead used for more infrastructure, and as the Triarchy capital after the destruction of the home world its surface would likely have been covered over with megalithic official buildings for running the empire, as well as Imotekh's already existing alterations to the world. The green atmosphere could be natural, but it might also be a product of Necron tech, or even a technology in itself used in the Necron equivalent of terraforming.
>>65466479the archetypal Necron affinity for green clouds could be taken to as a sign of what their home world's atmosphere was like, or their chosen formulation after colonizing other worlds.
>>65466479The green colour could be a result of too much chlorine in the atmosphere. It wasnt like that back in the dat, indeed it was quite pleasant. Or at least it was when they moved in and before the ancent eldar dropped neutrino bombs all over the place and gamma ray sterelized the surface, but that's all ancient history even by the time they were setting the alarm. Something happened in the last 65 million years whilst they were sleeping that stired it up. Oddly it doesnt seem to have come on to the planet from the outside and seems to have come up from out of the ground but they definately feel that they would have noticed that much toxic shit in the planetary surface when they first set up shop.It's a mystery but a convinient one, nobody wants to visit.
>>65467784It could be massive swarms of scarabs, the Imperium only looks by telescope, Szarekh isn't prone to let their scholars poke around his capital.
>>65434880>>65435110To be fair, would humanity be that different? If Earth was ever destroyed, we'd take the rubble and build monuments out of that out of reverence for our homeworld.>>65454567This is pretty good. A little stilted in places but it has a lot of good ideas, and it is very clear you know what you're doing in terms of the lore. Indeed, the stiltedness actually kind of works a bit, as it gives the impression of the near-emotionless, logical behavior of the Necrons and how their society seems so alien to ours.>>65466479>>65466538>>65467784The linking of Necron green to their atmosphere is a neat idea.
>>65436722is there more stuff on the task master?
>>65472629What was in the atmosphere of the homework that could make it so green looking?
>>65473785They are the ultimate cenobite level sensation addict but can, when needed, put of immediate gratification for long term gains and unlike many followers is actually in this for love of their god rather than personal wants.Probably was one of the nobility back in the old days and sees the Eldar Empire as nothing more than a shed husk from which their god emerged and therefore The Fall was a blessed event. Their only regret is that it didn't happen harder and take the whole galaxy.Massive patron of the Dark City missionary work, which annoys Vect and by extension Malys a little.
>>65479091Some sort of ammonia compounds in the air maybe.
>>65481805That could work. We don't know shit about Necrontyr biology other than "humanoid shape, full of glitches and difficult to manipulate usefully".
>>65421830This would appease the eldar a little, specifically the curmudgeonly older generations who saw it as marrying way, way down.
>>65481805Would that work at a biological level?
>>65486046>Would that work at a biological level?Not with human biology, no. With some alien biochemistry though... Why not? Assume it works; it's probably true and the universe is large.
>>65484839I'd think that the Eldar might also make up some criteria that would help make the Imperium feel more like a home to them, something like having relatively safe holdings of the imperium around all the craftworlds as well as due protection of the Exodites from Imperial developments, or something of the kind. It would be the sort of thing Biel-Tan would predicate claims of the Imperium being a new Eldar empire on.
>>65486726It has already been mentioned that a list of all known Maiden Worlds has been provided to the Imperial Government so that the Imperium knows where not to set it's flag. It also means that the eldar can't claim dibs on other people's clay.The exodite worlds themselves are typically divided up among the craftworlds that offer them protection and usually by ideological stance as the webway cuts travel and response time.
>>65486515>>65486046After doing a little reading it seems unlikely. For life to he.ammonia based it would have to exist in an environment with a combination of greater atmospheric pressure and/or lower temperatures. Not impossible but necrontyr seem to have had a preference for more terrestrial and temperature climates. I'd assume they were carbon based from that.This is not a definitely but it is a probable.Also an ammonia base ecosystem would be brown rather than green.The real reason for them making their new capital bright glowing green could be cultural. C'tan are native to stars and there are no green stars.
>>65488608That’s why I suggest it’s actually their terraforming tech, or post-biological equivalent
>>65489952Current Necron efforts are to dick slap the Big Red Cadia button, this may result in all life with a connection to the warp going extinct. Everything has some connection to the warp with only a few freakish exceptions. Terraforming could be a wasted effort.
>>65480235Has Vect allowed Chaos Missionaries in his city?
Lets come up with more on the Bloodpact's special way of praising Khorne
>>65494051they get in, and getting noticed isn't good for their health. The marriage actually made the taskmaster desist in his most overt stuff, like claiming Vect still ought to recognize him as liege.
>>65494051>>65497257Some aspiring Chaos Crones try to do things like open Khaine's Gate and let Chaos in, hoping to be rewarded beyond their wildest dreams by the dark gods. They almost invariable are young individuals with bigger eyes than their head, and the ones Vect catches are the lucky ones because he "just" makes an example of them.>>65489952>>65492017It would be Tombworldiforming (or Necrontiforming or something). Some kind of color put off by all their weird transdimensional tech.
>>65429487The eldar would argue that the Warp can have rules imposed on it from which understanding can be derived, that's how the gods work.
>>65437221>Lizard Wizards, even less sense of right and wrong.
>>65496111Re-enactments of the Eternity Gate fight but not fucking it up and general fighting games I'd imagine.
>>65425272The Silent King did sleep inthis AU, Gahet and others depended on it.
>>65496111Lick the Catachan Barking Toad and pin the tail on the Carnifex seem like good games in addition to the usual bare knukle booking.God only knows what making an actual structured religion around Khorne would look like, marrige ceremonies would be fun.
>>65511641That's pretty much how Pert made his hives, everywhere is built for an ambush.Also I thought that said clown and he's just killed Pennywise. Clown can not honk if you disable it's hand.
>>65512489>Also I thought that said clown and he's just killed PennywiseEven daemons get terrified when you drop baneblades down the ventilation shafts
Are there any named Ogryn characters we could use/steal?
>>65517447Only one from vanilla I can think of is Nork Deddog.
>>65480235Malys may also like that it annoys Vect depending on mood.
>>65479091Arsenic maybe. It sometimes goes green if you mix it right. Would explain why their biology is so unfixably unstable if they can interchange that an phosphorus.
>>65509648Aztecs had a fairly structured religion, it could be based on that with the sacrifice being done via fighting pit rather than alter slab, but other than having the same god the scriptures and practices of the different cults probably won't have much in common beyond promoting aggression and violence.
>>65486726I don't think they would feel the need to make up semi-mythical criteria for the Imperium being a direct connection of the Eldar Empire. Consider; on the grand scale of the Eldar's history the Imperium turned up almost immediately after The Fall, the mother of all Eldar is the Empress, every major political figure hires Eldar farseers, almost every Eldar people is a member (cenobites and fedora cenobites don't count as Eldar or people) and the Eldar people are protected under it's aegis.Other opinions on the subject are irrelevant.
>>65518422I'm writing something on him, just need a little time.
>>65512489I imagine Pennywise would be a slaaneshii deamon feeding on fear.
>>65524506>>65518422Should he be BONE enhanced or would this not be needed in this AU if he was some sort of natural strange savant?
>>65522468I’m not saying they’d add a mythological criteria, but they’d make up criteria, one or many like the points you made, just to tout as the sign their star is on the rise. It would probably shift age to age as Eldar commentators remarked on centuries and millennia of unfolding Imperial history, centering the claim on Isha’s place as Empress, having contiguous holdings connecting the craft worlds in realspace as an unbroken domain, the vital role of seers and other special eldar practices at various levels of society, etc. and at times all of the above. Then Ulthan the Tasteless just comes out and says Oscar, though a pitiful godling, was preferable by far to Isha’s previous ‘husband’, and since they were wed, and Isha is mother to the Eldar, the empire that has come of the union is theirs as their mother bequeaths it unto them. Simply how it works.
>>65527900What does the Empress think of this outlook and attitude? Is it encouraged?
>>65529053"What, ask Her directly? That's just so crass! And totally unnecessary, as I know in my heart that She agrees with me fully. There's no need to say anything that might offend."Self-serving assuming of others' opinions can't be a trait reserved for mon'keigh politicians...
>>65529053In taking up the role of empress and shifting her portfolio around Isha has become more powerful, but also changed in attitudes. Matronly is generally a fitting discriptor.
>>65530109She'd be aware of what Beil-Tan believes, how could she not be, and she would have shared this with her husband. It's just one of those things that they have agreed to intentionally never adress. What Beil-Tan say is true, from there perspective the Imperium is the continuation of the not terrible parts of the Eldar Empire. Form the view of everyone else it's a Human founded nation. Both of these beliefs are equally true.
>>65418021I just finished reading the 1d4chan article about this project.Why did you make it so shit? When I read the title of thread I got kind of excited. But after reading the wiki I'm more disgusted than anything.
>>65531428we all live in hell and nothing is good. death is no escape either.
>>65531428Did you read the shitty cover page or the actual main page?
>>65533018That"s the cover page. How ever its' pretty shit too. I suggest you read the Nobledark primarch page, that's where the good shit lays.
>>65530354How much of that is Macha influence is debatable.
>>65534174Fixing up the cover page would be a good idea.
>>65452019Did we reach a conclusion on their foundation and structure?
>>65537063Yeah, it’s just not clearly laid out, in fact the info is broken up across various sections
>>65527078Nova Ogryn don't get BONE'd, they're smart enough.
>>65519242Angry sex plus murder whilst on all of the drugs is best sex.
>>65509648We already granted that marriages are arranged to promote aggression
>>65538118The augmented soldiers seem to be either acting as bodyguards or take down and enforces when the Space Marines get uppity. Also they probably do recruit men but men can't get those upgrades so they get relegated to lesser duties and ignored by the media.
>>65541174It was decided that not to include /tg/ characters for their own sake, his existance is infered by the nature of the setting but not explicitely stated.
The Veiled Regionhttps://pastebin.com/HAzVpdy1Is it acceptable? I tried to get everything we had down coherently. Should I change anything?