https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Renegade_Space_Marine_Chapter_Creation_TableThe Imperium of Man has no place for us any longer. Decide the fate of those who tread beyond the Emperor's light. Roll 1d100 for the Chapter's progenitors.
Rolled 36 (1d100)>>64909963
>>64909987>36 - Blood AngelsWe take our bloodline from Sanguinius himself. Noble are his sons, and savage is his wrath. Roll 1d100 for the time of our founding.
Rolled 81 (1d100)>>64910033
>>64910077>81 - 41st MillenniumSpawned from the latest true founding, the Chapter is only a few hundred years old at best. Roll 1d100 for the reason we left the Imperium.
Rolled 76 (1d100)>>64910183
>>64910215>76 - Cowardice in the Face of Extinction Instead of dying an honourable death, the Chapter favoured their own survival over duty's bonds. Whether they simply retreated from a desperate battle, or sacrificed their allies to save their own skins, they were excommunicated for their sins. Roll a d20 for the purity of their geneseed.
Rolled 12 (1d20)>>64910262
>>64910275>12 - Minor FlawSpared from the rampant defects of many of their brother Chapters, their geneseed is nonetheless slightly changed from their founding fathers'. Perhaps the inherent flaws of Sanguinius have taken different forms, or their implanted organs function slightly differently than normal. Roll 1d10 for the Chapter's flaw.
Rolled 7 (1d10)>>64910313
>>64910326>>64910323>7 - Eye to EyeThe Chapter favours personal combat and the press of battle, whether by a misplaced code of honour or simple need for bloodshed. Roll 1d100 for the figure of legend.
Rolled 77 (1d100)>>64910373>CQC>Missing ZygoteMaybe it's our Larraman's Organ or Sus-an.
Rolled 40 (1d100)>>64910373
>>64910033How many blood angels is this board gonna get
>>64910417Should we start from the top or are we cool with the current meme
>>64910417As many as it takes to ensure that all Chapters are Blood Angels.That said, if OP agrees we can reroll since running away isn't a very Angelic thing to do.
>>64910400Company captain Roll1d10 to determine which company
>>64910437I mean isn't that what shamed this chapter in the first place
>>64910437Yeah, I'm kind of sick of Blood Angels too, but the fun is in taking the shitty rolls and making something interesting from it. Roll a 1d100 if you want to try again with another progenitor.
Rolled 1 (1d10)>>64910440
>>64910492>1st Company The Veteran Company, the 1st Company Captain is one of the most venerable Marines in the entire Chapter, second only to the Chapter Master himself. Perhaps he even stepped into complete command when the previous Chapter Master fell and they fled from the Imperium.Roll 1d100 for his deed of legend.
Rolled 3 (1d100)>>64910535Hope it's brutal
Rolled 100 (1d100)>>64910481Ok.
Rolled 67 (1d100)>>64910614Did you mean to do this?
Rolled 98 (1d100)>>64910621Sons of VulkanWhen was our founding?
>>64910621Nice. >>64910648>98 - Unknown FoundingRecords were lost or destroyed, or perhaps they never existed. When we left the Imperium, there was no one left to remember when we were created. 1d100 for why we left.
Rolled 47 (1d100)>>64910670Come on baby
>>64910701>47 - Bitter Resentment A Space Marine does not suffer grievances easily, and if pushed too far for too long, even the strongest will break. The Chapter is surely deficient in one way or another, it is only a matter of degree.Roll 1d2 for genetic impurity.
Rolled 12 (1d20)>>64910747Oh boy hope we get some real freaks
>>64910765I'll just call that a two.>2 - Heavy MutationOur bodies are wretched and impure. Vulkan would weep to gaze upon us. Roll 2d10 for mutations.
Rolled 6, 2 = 8 (2d10)>>649107881
>>64910766>>64910788>>64910799Vulkan has blessed us with these dubs.
>>64910799>6 - Lost ZygoteOne of our organs no longer functions. Either choose one or roll 1d-however many there are.>2 - Oversensitive Occulobe Darkvision is a gift, if only in the night. The sun curses us and bright lights hurt just the same. Next is 1d10 for Chapter flaw.
>>64910788>I'll just call it a 2Mate, it goes off a d20
Rolled 7 (1d10)>>64910842
>>64910882>7 - Eye to EyeClose and personal. So close you can smell the sweat and grease. 1d100 for figure of legend. >>64910868Table said d2 for Bitter Resentment, I dunno
>>64910925Shit see it now, my bad
Rolled 67 (1d100)>>64910925
>>64910971>67 - Master of Sanctity First among the Chaplains, he leads the Chapter's spiritual side both directly and indirectly, commanding the Chaplains placed within each company. 1d100 for his deed of legend.
Rolled 47 (1d100)>>64911035
>>64911048>47 - Stalwart Enemy of the Chapter's FoesHe's a badass no matter the enemy, never giving ground and never showing mercy. His brothers look to him as an example of righteous fury and their spirits soar when he takes the field. Roll 1d10 for the Chapter's home sector.
Rolled 1 (1d10)>>64911104
>>64911123>1 - True Nomads Their home is their ship, their orders are their own. They never stay for longer than is needed to take in new equipment and supplies before jumping to the next system. Roll 1d10 for Rule of Sector
Rolled 2 (1d10)>>64911193So our Salamanders successors were bulli so hard they couldn't take it no more
>>64911218...we're nomadic so maybe this should be Combat Doctrine.>True Marines, focusing on void combatMakes sense
>>64911218>2 - PatronageWe fight the enemy where we find them, and in thanks those we help offer up what little they have in appeasement. We give and take, and leave before too long.1d10 for combat doctrine.
Rolled 2 (1d10)>>6491125This works too.
>>64911261Same thing anyway. >2 - True MarinesThe ship is their stronghold, and they will never let it be sullied. Any who dare assail it shall be left bleeding into the void. 1d100 for Chapter operating procedure.
Rolled 61 (1d100)>>64911305And these guys are supposed to be renegades? They still sound like bros to me, but that's a given considering their parentage.
Rolled 90 (1d100)>>64911261
>>64911322>61 - Insurgency They crush their enemy, drive them before them, and hear the lamentation of their women. There is a purpose that drives them - the utter destruction of their foe wherever they may be. 1d100 for specialty restrictions
>>64911322Maybe they wanted to help the citizens of the Imperium but got shafted really hard about it, since they were sent to fight and kill heretics and mutants all the time.Eventually they were forced to commit a massacre and snapped, collectively going renegade and becoming independent vigilantes helping people in need.
Rolled 86 (1d100)>>64911389Apparently they're not so nice to their enemies.
>>64911399"In the Grim Darkness of the Future, a crack Space Marines unit was sentenced to death by an Inquisitorial court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the galactic underground. Today, still wanted by the Imperium, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The Arson Team [name pending]."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyz_2DEah4o
>>64911443>86 - LibrarianThe Chapter's psykers have never been seen in battle. If this is because there are simply too few to risk in the line of fire or none at all - or perhaps they are too far gone - time will never tell. 1d100 for missing equipment.
Rolled 72 (1d100)>>64911489
Rolled 21 (1d100)>>6491151947
Rolled 1, 7, 10, 7, 5, 12, 12 = 54 (7d12)>>64911538Click on options and type in dice+1d100 or any variation thereof. That sticky at the top of the catalog exists for a reason.
>>64911458This must be our theme.There's no doubt.So we're A-Team Salamanders Descendants without Land Raiders.Some names:>Iron Dragons>Iron Wyrms>Iron Drakes>Steelhearts
>>64911498>72 - Land RaidersThe ancient war machines have no place in the tight corridors and tunnels of ship-board warfare. Resources are at a premium, and a Land Raider's maintenance cost is truly monumental. Though there may be one or two hidden away in deep, secret armouries, they have not seen use in a long, long time. 1d100 for special equipment
Would one of our newbies learning how to roll dice like to do the honors?
>>64911538>>64911519Where it says options enter dice+1d100
Rolled 34 (1d100)>>64911588
Rolled 12 (1d100)>>64911629for >>64909963
>>64911743>34 - Crudely Crafted WeaponryLong gone are the colossal forge worlds and city factories that used to provide their armaments. All they have left are the few workshops and smithies still kept running after their excommunication, and what little they can scavenge from the dead or gifted from thankful allies. Weapons and armour are varied and often in ill-repair, but they make do with what is given. Roll 1d10 for Chapter strength.
Rolled 5 (1d10)>>64911842
>>64911979>5 - NominalThough some losses have occurred, the Chapter is still in one piece. Whatever formations they held before, they can still field most of what they could, though replacements are becoming harder to come by and their faulty geneseed doesn't accept new hosts easily. Almost done, 1d100 for current goals
Rolled 39 (1d100)>>64912070Still need a solid name for our little lost lizards too.
>>64912126A name, and which of their organs don't work anymore. >39 - For the Emperor!They believe that even now they still fight for the Emperor in their own way, though the Imperium might see things differently. And to wrap it up, 2d100 for allies and enemies.
Rolled 32, 94 = 126 (2d100)>>64912199Ironically, our descendants of Vulkan have an inactive sus-an membrane--they have a hard time getting back up if they've been heavily-wounded.
Rolled 88, 14 = 102 (2d100)>>64912199
Rolled 51, 78 = 129 (2d100)>>64912199
AlliesEnemiesTake your pick, all three could be equally interesting I think. >>64912363>32 - Tyranid Hive Fleet>94 - Minor Xenos faction (1d100 to roll)>>64912370>88 - Dark Eldar>14 - Craftworld Eldar>>64912386>51 - Loyalist Space Marine Chapter>78 - Imperial Guard / PDFThat'll finish us off for rolls. Now to just roll it into a cohesive package, pick out some colours, a name, etc.
>>64912488I kind of like the eldar one, ironic considering we are sons of vulkan
Rolled 33 (1d100)>>64912488Rolling for that minor xenos faction in >>64912363I think >>64912386 would be good for allies. Loyalist Space Marines that don't even actually like the renegade roasters but maybe have a sour history with the Inquisition and enjoy the opportunity to spite them. Celestial Lions or one of their allies maybe?Then the Imperial Guard, who don't really know enough about the politics to have an opinion, but appreciate any extra support they can get. The officers range from "CALL THE INQUISITOR NAAOOOOOWWW" to "I didn't see you, you didn't see me."
>>64912488I like the idea of a salamanders successor chapter working with eldar or a minor xenos faction in order to fight off a tyranid invasion. Could tie into their abandoning the imperium.
>>64912370>>64912363>>64912488Who should be what though, I vote whatever brings the most hilarious results
Some names for the Chapter:Hellfire GiantsForge DrakesMeteor DracosUndying FlamesFallen HammersObsidian SmithsNether BeastsTempered KnightsCrucible ChampionsEmerald HeartsOr any variation thereof.
>>64912902dark eldar allies is probably the funniest
>>64912587The fuck is the ulumeathic league
>>64912587http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/UluméathicSo, no to these guys?
Rolled 6 (1d10)>>64912932
>>64912944>>64912979Considering they dead as fuck, probably not worth mentioning. Unless...Unless the >>64912998 Obsidian Smiths initially took pity on them and tried to aid them by joining forces with the Eldar against Hive Fleet Naga and the Inquisition interpreted their actions as desertion, thus branding them renegades. Would be fitting--no good deed goes unpunished. How suitably grimdark.
We are the Obsidian Smiths, a renegade Chapter of suspect Salamanders genestock. Not only do we carry any minor quirks of Vulkan's seed, but our eyes are hyper-sensitive and our Sus-an Membrane has never functioned properly - and those are just the well-known defects. No one truly knows when we were created - officially we never were - and the few to remember us even in recent history have nothing but scorn and derision for our name. Embittered by our ill regard, we eventually left the Imperium to fight the Emperor's wars in our own ways, free of the strictures of our previous allies. We are masters of ship-to-ship combat and prefer to fight in the cramped press of metal and hissing pipes. In the dark is where we belong, with the stale air and the echo of the ship's engine. No room to manoeuvre, and no room to run. We remain in our ships for the most part and never settle for long, plying the stars in search of our enemy and obliterating them where we find them through whatever means available. In return for the passing safety we provide, the splinters of life that reside outside the Emperor's light offer up what little help they can. Our Librarians are never seen or heard from outside of the Librarius, and the state of our Chapter's psykers is never truly known. Similarly, we have lost almost every one of our venerable Land Raiders, and much of our standard-pattern gear has fallen into disrepair. Instead, we make do with what we forge ourselves, or scavenge from the fallen, or taken as offerings from passing civilisations. We have little uniformity in wargear, but our true purpose has never wavered or waned. The Master of Sanctity, the Lord Chaplain himself, is a marine without peer and without match. He has led us through every hardship with steel resolve and iron faith, and stood firm against every foe to come before him. He is to be feared and respected, and all shall know it soon enough.
>>64913168The name ties in well with having to forge and maintain their own wargear
Recreated our boys in Chapter Master.
>>64913710No idea why the Chapter Master page got so artifact'd. Upscaling the army painter, sure, I get that. Just screenshotting a page? I dun geddit.
>>64913168im bad at colors but maybe something like this? obviously obsidian grey black and reds for the fire or blood look
>>64913779Fucking dig it
>>64913779Love the color scheme, for the sigil do we want to just jack the salamanders or make one up?
>>64913879our sigil could be a ship, or maybe an anvil
>>64914452Anvil and hammer maybe?
>>64914505could work but I am worried about it being predictable
>>64914729Hammer and forge tongs? I'm not a blacksmith I don't know enough forge implements that can be applied to graphic design well.
>>64913168>We remain in our ships for the most part and never settle for long, plying the stars in search of our enemy and obliterating them where we find them through whatever means available. In return for the passing safety we provide, the splinters of life that reside outside the Emperor's light offer up what little help they can.Don't neglect to mention that we're the A-Team. We look for people in need and help them for a price, leaving after our work is done to look for more people in need.
>>64914798how about an actual forge?
>>64921516I like this!
>>64921516>Sigil used to be a complete anvil with some other Imperial icons mixed in>Now its just a simple fractured anvilI like it
>>64921516Perfect, did we ever agree on allies and enemies?
>>64922307The Imperial Guard make a compelling argument for an alliance.
>>64922854I thought the Guard were the enemies in that roll.
>>64922885Do you want to be enemies with eight septillion, two hundred and sixty-one sextillion, five hundred and forty-three quintillion, five hundred and thirty-seven quadrillion, forty-nine trillion, six hundred billion guns? Brave, brave man, anon. Braver man than I.
>>64922307Our allies are a Loyalist Chapter and our enemies are an IG Regiment ordered to pursue and kill us at any cost.Their hearts aren't really into it anymore, though, because we keep sparing them and limiting casualties during battles, since we're loyal to the Emperor but not the Imperium.That's my take, at least.
>>64922919I like that interpretation.
>>64922946Then the Loyalist Chapter could be helping us covertly, sympathizing with us and disagreeing with the Inquisitorial ruling which had us declared renegades.Maybe they're the Salamanders.
>>64913168>much of our standard-pattern gear has fallen into disrepair. Instead, we make do with what we forge ourselves, or scavenge from the fallen, or taken as offerings from passing civilisations. We have little uniformity in wargearDoes this mean that their bolters are just in scrappy condition or are there some marines lugging around shortened autocannons and upsized AKs they made themselves?
>>64921516Design 2.More basic than the first, but also easier to edit onto other places, like on a pauldron.
>>64910262Why did you think you needed to make a post for every roll and copy paste your result?Google dice roller. Christ.
>>64928701Utter brainlet thinks this constitutes bait1/10, got a (You)
So what about the xenos allies? The Ulumeathic League seems like a potentially-interesting blank slate.
>>64929442Basically, the Obsidian Smiths helped to save the Uluméathic League by supporting the Eldar against Hive Fleet Naga; the Inquisition didn't appreciate it and sent an IG Regiment after us, while another Chapter understood our reasons for doing it and are supporting us covertly.
>>64929481How about some sort of continuing relationship with the Uluméathics? Maybe Ulu culture has a strong code of honor, and they believe they owe a life-debt to the Smiths - perhaps serving as auxiliaries?
>>64929670Yeah. Our allies are:>The Uluméathic (they think highly of us after we saved their ashes and are among our best friends, helping us by supplying whatever resources and bodies they can spare)>Iyanden (we were on good terms with the Malan'tai, Idharae and Iyanden after Naga was repelled, but the only one that survived till now is Iyanden)>Some Chapter we haven't chosen yetOur enemies are:>The Inquisition>An IG Regiment sent to bring us in, but we keep letting them off easy and now they found out we're nicer than we look
>>64930038 (You)>>after Naga was repelledWhoops, it turns out they were destroyed.
>>64930060That's the trouble with tyranids though, innit? You think you got 'em all, and then a bio-ship surprises your agri-world, and next thing you know you have an entire splinter fleet scavenging in the void and plotting against you.
>>64930038I'm thinking the Ulus lost most of their civilisation to the Tyranids, and the remainder are serving with the Smiths as auxiliaries. Perhaps they're now dedicated to roaming the area fighting Tyranids (as well as having the Inquisition and IG on their backs).
>>64930328Ulu modified pattern wargear?
>>64930038I like this one
>>64930328so when we saved the ulus were we intentionally saving them or were we manipulated by the eldar?
>>64934580Being tricked into doing things by eldar is pretty bog standard. Doing it willingly jells better with being renegade.
>>64930038>Eldar and Salamander smiths arguing the applications of ceramite vs wraithbone daily during a long warp transitI never knew I needed this level of comfy.
>>64935639Wraithbone and Ceramite patchwork space marine armor?Arguing over how best to keep it from looking slipshod?
>>64930038I wholeheartedly support this. As for the allied chapter I recommend the mag pies considering we have no relics for them to steal (also their on again off again relationship with eldar). As for the IG regiment, who's a particularly butt blasted bunch that would help inquisitors chase us around.
>>64934580If it walks on 2 legs and isn't green or spikey, an argument can be made for fighting the bugs with them.
>>64936233The Dragoons might be a good choice.
>>64936833Dubs decide it
>>64934580If the tyranids were allowed to eat all that biomass, they would have marched right into Imperial Space unopposed and jeopardized dozens of worlds before they'd be halted. Destroying them while they were weak was the only logical choice, even if it meant teaming up with xenos to do so. Just so happens that, well, maybe those xenos aren't so bad. They're certainly capable of gratitude, if nothing else.
>>64936094This plus constant dick measuring contests of Imperial vs Eldar weaponry in combat, followed by begrudging tweaks to equipment by both Eldar and Marines as both see the merit in using each other's weapons in specific circumstances, still complaining and ribbing about their quality constantly.
How would people feel about a quest thread about these guys once they're fleshed out?
>>64936233If we go off the Ciaphas Cain books?The Tallarn would declare holy jihad. Then again, they're also desert specialists which would make it a horrible matchup vs. the chapter.
>>64937363Someone suggested Vitrian dragoons. Given their penchant for overclocked las rifles, plasma guns, and specialized cloaking armor I'd say they're well suited for a regiment tasked with hunting renegade marines. Not to mention the fact they disappeared in a battle against a mysterious xenos race that came out of a web way breach so canonically they're up for grabs.
>>64937538I actually meant the Pyran Dragoons but that's way better.
>>64937636Vitrian dragoons it is!
>>64937538I second the Vitrian Dragoons. Alternatively, the Vostroyans would also make for a fine choice, being well-armed and armored and capable of truly absurd grudges over matters of honor. Scintillans and other regiments comprised of egotistical nobility and glory hounds would also fit in just as well. Hell, we could probably roll up a regiment of our own design in the next thread should we need to.
>>64937359That'd actually be pretty rad I think.
>>64937359I'm game.Been awhile since I watched a chapter of dudes rolled out quest thread style.
What kind of weapons do the Obsidian Smiths use? They're CQC specialists, so I'd imagine meltas and swords. Or do they forgo guns completely in favor of sword-and-shield?
>>64937359Do it.>>64937538>>64937636>>64937647>>64937666So our choices are:>Vitrian Dragoons, because they're up for grabs and are as appropriate for taking on Marines as the IG can be>Vostroyans, because they never give up a grudge and would chase us relentlessly>Roll for itI'm personally favouring Vitrian Dragoons
>>64938378I think we should just call it for the dragoons, their motivation is potentially more interesting
>>64937692>>64938060>>64938378Will make a link the quest thread once it's ready
>>64938327Meltas might be dangerous in shipboard combat but if we don't care about fucking up enemy ships... Flamers are popular and good for corridor fights, but they're a pretty typical Salamander thing so maybe we want to be a little different. Shotguns could be interesting since we make our own weapons now and they're fairly easy to make. Hammers fit the smith theme more than swords I think.Actually, what's our personality like? We went renegade because we were getting bullied and we're still fighting for the Emperor, but are we gruff and mean ourselves, hard on the outside with a soft inside and some uncertainty about what we're doing, complete sweethearts that just wanted to do better despite having fucked up bodies?
>>64938494All good questions. I suppose we'll find out what their character is once >>64938444 gets the quest rolling.
>>64910621Wew, I'm glad this roll guided us away from yet another bangels chapter. This is much more cool.
>>64938327They use the standard Bolter/Chainsword combo as well as a few specialty weapons like Flamers and Meltas, although scouts use Bolt Pistols instead because of a dearth of Bolters.Sergeants may have Shuriken Catapults instead of normal Bolters.Captains are usually equipped with unique weapons made by the Uluméathic or Eldar.The Chapter Master has a Thunder Hammer (their only Power Weapon), a Shuriken Cannon/Heavy Bolter, and possibly a Multi-melta. He also has the Chapter's only suit of Terminator Armour.
>>64939113i think thats reaching a little desu
>>64939182It's a foundation to work off of.Things can change any time
I did that thing I said I was gonna do>>>/qst/3312711
>>64939113A little heavy on the use of eldar gear.
>>64939248I just wish I wasn't headed to bed right now - if it's still going I'll pitch in. tempted to use WanG or DeathWatch to come up with a Marine.
>>64939215i dunno i think going from crudely crafted weaponry to taking eldar stuff is a little far but maybe if others like it its cool
>>64939262Then Sergeants can lose the Eldar gear. Then it'll be restricted to Captains and the Chapter Master.>>64939248Well, let's begin
The /qst/thread finally got updated
>>64938494I suggest that Smiths have are jovial and caring, with a good sense of humour. It makes sense, for a chapter willing to work with aliens.
>>64943029This probably makes the most sense
Also, what about their chapter culture/aesthetic? "Obsidian" suggests Mesoamerican, but Aztec chapters have been done to death. Perhaps Inca/Andean? Obsidian played a role in their culture, too, and they did a lot of ornamental metalworking (gold, silver, etc). I'm thinking builders of infrastructure, roads, etc., perhaps helping the Ulus rebuild, which would fit the bro-ish Salamander style. Power maces, maybe. The Inca used flaming sling pellets - perhaps incendiary bolter rounds? That would fit the Salamanders connection.
Chain-maces, if we want to limit their power-weaponry. [Same anon, btw.]
>>64943655Incans would be cool and fits the obsidian part better. I saw their mutations and was imagining them as more like svartalfar or dark dwarves, staying in dark places and making stuff and being generally unliked. Granted, my only knowledge of the actual lore is from Dominions, but I thought it could be a cool aesthetic that I don't think I've seen much in 40k.
>>64943863Like the cave Inca from that one terrible Indiana Jones movie, you know the one.
>>64943863They can be be both, though Inca sun-worship is a bit of a problem. Moon-worshippers, perhaps? The Inca did love the moon.
>>64944124that could work, or maybe the religion is that they somehow offended the sun, causing the mutation
>>64946051And sun = Emperor
>>64946205yes, this could work
>>64946205A relatively simple solar cult, except we play the part of those cursed by the sun and cast from its light. One day we shall return to the sun, but we have yet to redeem ourselves.
>>64946305Bleak, fatalistic, but good-humored. Brotherhood and compassion in the face of doom.
I want to flesh out our Librarians a bit more, they are never seen in the battlefield, so i assume they are few. A forgotten school in the chapter, per say. Maybe they are secludded from the rest because they are xenophobic against the aliens that now crew the ship Maybe its a personal fight between the chief librarian and the chapter master, with them not aproving the renegade path the chapter took Maybe they are away with the eldar seeking some lost forgoten relic, or trying to acomplish some secret mission Maybe they
>>64946469doesnt the tyranid shadow in the warp fuck with psykers? maybe something happened there
>>64946469Maybe they react badly to the chapter's geneseed and choose to be secluded their whole lives
>>64946536Maybe they have an amplified version of our defects, leaving them blind and with negligeable healing
>>64946818Our librarians end up with brittle bones and hollow eyes as they grow older, much has been tried by our apotheraries to fix this mutation, but so far to not avail. Speculation about eldar deals and forbiden xeno tech has been running around the hallways of the Dark Forge about as a last ditch effort to save them, but noone knows for certain how much of those rummors are hollow truths and how many hold water
>>64946469>>64946513So most of them died fighting the Tyranids and a lot of the survivors are off with Iyanden Eldar on some mystic quest.Maybe in M41 they're helping the Ynnari and acting as a point of contact for Guilliman.
>>64946914This probably makes a bit more sense than having permanently crippled astartes
>>64946914how would Gulliman react to us? while he is significantly less dogmatic then the rest of the imperium, we are very close to two xenos races
>>64947346Probably well enough, I'd imagine we'd be a chapter he'd want back in the fold.
>>64947705and ow do we react to guilliman reacing out to us? do we believe him or are we suspicious
>>64948133Incredibly so, something like that while totally likely from our perspective would be highly suspect from the perspective of a chapter that's been on the run.
Alright, what about the Ulumeathic auxiliaries? What do they look like, how do they fight, what's their culture like?
>>64948391Maybe we should start with a general type - avian? Reptilian? Octopoid? So far, we think that their culture might emphasise gratitude and/or honor.
>>64948391>>64948443Quest thread anon here suggesting we make them fill a support role(repairing arms and armor for the most part) also linking the /qst/ thread again>>>/qst/3312711
>>64948804Shouldn't we being doing our own repairs and making our own gear though? We are Smiths after all.
>>64948391I'm thinking they should be alien as fuck, with a remarkably honorable and martially focused human culture that emphasizes humility and respect. I'm talking plantoid, with protruding eye-stalks, a tubed maw, three genders and a complicated courtship process revolving around egg-laying, but a society that, prior to their destruction, was almost identical to the Imperium of Man, with the single-minded worship of a pseduo-God Emperor, hate for Psykers, (other) Xenos, and the Imperium itself, for capitalizing on the weakness the Tyranid fleets inflicted.
>>64948931this, the repairing thing doesnt make much sense, I think they should be more of a stealth unit
>>64948946>I'm thinking they should be alien as fuck, with a remarkably honorable and martially focused human culture that emphasizes humility and respect. I'm talking plantoid, with protruding eye-stalks, a tubed maw, three genders and a complicated courtship process revolving around egg-layingYes to all of the first part, that's all rad.>with the single-minded worship of a pseduo-God EmperorI'm thinking maybe they have an alien sort of collectivistic quasi-group-mind - not a full-on hive, but extreme dedication to their group/species as an idealistic concept. Sort of an awareness of their wholeness and unity as a species. In the wake of the vast cultural trauma that was the destruction of their home planet, they've incorporated the Emperor into that concept, and see him as a savior and redeemer.I was also thinking that they could serve as psykers, what with the librarians being rare/gone.
>>64949204I dont like the idea of them being psykers, takes away from our lack of librarians
>>64949204>>64949386What if instead of individual Psykers, they had a gesalt Hive-mind, almost like the Tyranids, and the destruction of their throne world crippled it, sending them into a hopeless spiral of suicidal mourning and all-consuming hate for the Devourer before the Eldar and Space Marines arrived, to rescue the last known remnants of their race? I'm thinking they have a much narrower range of emotions than humans, the only real emotions they are capable of having is hate, worship, and mourning, which they *simultaneously* oscillate between distressingly frequently.
I like the idea of the Ulumeathins filling a repair support role, but I agree we should stick with the Smith motif and repair our own war gear. Maybe they perform some maintenance on our ships and vehicles.
>>64949605Maybe that's why we're so friendly. Despite their profound differences, the Chapter and the Xenos both share a deep, single-minded obsession with craftsmanship, individual smithing, and large industry, respectively.
>>64949513>gesalt Hive-mindI think it would be good for them to have individual personalities, though.
>>64951099That's why I said gesalt, they're not a single mind, they're many minds in a close network that are freely capable of entering, mingling, and communicating with one another
>>64951840>>64949513>>64949386I like the idea of them having some sorth of Hivemind that was destroyed when the Tyranids showed up, and the reason we lack librarians is because they created a link between the surviving xenos for them to join us .I like the idea of a circle of librarians in a complete trance, lost to themselves forever more, linked to the minds of every single xeno in our care. A part of them in every one of them.
>>64952278That's pretty nice anon and IRRE-FUCKING-DEEMABLY HERETICAL but here in the Smiths, we don't care about that, do we?
>>64952278I think we found our excuse for why the librarians don't come out of their rooms
>>64952278This feels like it's going a little too far.
>>64953535Nah, it's simultaneously gnarly and wholesome - a perfect fit for our chapter.
>>64953535Isn't going a little too far and doing all the wrong things with all the right intentions what gets you branded a Renegade to begin with?
>>64953480>inb4 it turns out that the librarian's quarters are where the Xenos have been sleeping, out of subconscious force of habit from a past life they never lived
so what is our relationship like with our eldar allies?
>>64955779Pretty tight, I'd imagine we'd have a good amount of respect for them considering we left the imperium after fighting alongside them
>>64955848what craftworld are we allied with have we decided?
>>64956083>>64956124We were allied with Idrahae and Malan'tai until they were destroyed.Maybe our presence helped save some of those Eldar.Do you think they like us enough to offer one-time Webway access?
>>64956194I doubt it, we are still just allies
>Roll up a genetically fucked chapter who got spat on and abused by the Imperium so they said Fuck You and left>Turn them into lovable bros with xenos guns and wacky alien sidekicks like every other shitty homebreweeeeeh...
>>64957273>shitty homebrewOK, buddy, I'm going to have to stop you right thereThis is not a homebrew. It is a PROFESSIONAL EFFORT and should BE REGARDED as such.We are a serious WRITING TEAM composed of a variety of ECLECTIC writers with fresh PERSPECTIVES. If you don't like IT you can get >>>/out/ OF here.
inheriting a small flaw in their mucranoid glands from the salamanders the obsidian smiths tend to sweat a thicker substance whenever their adrenaline spikes that hardens into brittle black shards the look like obsidianits not a dangerous substance but some find it itchy or uncomfortable and if they dont cleanse themselves regularly it can build up into a texture like glass scales
Well, let's archive if we're done with this thread.