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    132 KB Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:11 No.6422623  
    Continued from >>6419240
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)03:13 No.6422664
    Ahh, thank you my good man. Wish you'd posted a quick summary in your first post though.

    Regardless, I'm loving this setting and I may write for it. But let us continue fleshing it out a bit, yes?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:16 No.6422690
    800 lbs of writefagging imminent. I'm new at this, so bear with me.

    >I think it may be worth noting, that even among the God Machine mechs, there will still be variation in strength and purpose. Whereas, with the Christians, one Angel is gonna be about as badass as another Angel.

    The angels summoned when a believer is sacrificed, or the actual true Angels? Because the first would depend upon the strength of the soul that is consumed.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:18 No.6422713
    Okay then.

    Basically, we decided to brainstorm how to merge Mecha and the Roman Empire. The result is currently reaching epic.

    The main factions are the Romans, who pilot god-machines created by Vulcan or those inspired by him, the Mongols, who have bio-creature things, the Chinese, who use clay doll puppets, India, with similar machines to the Romans, the Britons, who salvage scrapped Roman machines, and the Christians, who revive their dead into soldiers, or use their followers souls to create Angels.

    This shit is fucking awesome.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:18 No.6422717

    I mean the true old testament eldritch oh god what is that Angel.

    This is why we started calling the other ones mechs, even though it may not be the most accurate term for them.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)03:19 No.6422724
    I'd have to agree with this. You'd need a mass martyrdom for a Primary Angel, at least an entire cell of Christians for a Secondary. I don't think just one guy killing himself would be enough to attract a higher being's attention.

    Also keep in mind it's not ritualistic suicide, they're throwing themselves into battle to die and become a Martyr for the cause, and that attracts Divine Attention. (suicide causes you to go to hell)
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:20 No.6422733
    Let us make the strength the duration of the Angel's form in the world

    so this will enable us to choose only the most devoted and faithful

    the stronger the devotion and faith to God, longer the Angel can be on Earth
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)03:21 No.6422749
    >Probably shouldn't make them too powerful. A god-empowered machine should be able to hold its own against an angel one-on-one.

    Consider this: It is a creature of a higher plane of existence, forced onto the material plane and into a physical state. It's a fucking badass, but it's weakened by the transition.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:24 No.6422775

    I thought the Angels were formed by the souls of the faithful, and their destruction actually resulted in the destruction of their souls and sacrifice of all chance to enter Heaven.

    Or are the mega-Angels different? Like the souls form the physical body, but that's just a container for the Angel-power?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:25 No.6422784
    so how would Roman God Machines work?
    only a specific pilot/group can move it like if you want to move Mars Prime God Machine (well let's say it's the basis of all Mars model), you'll need devotees of Mars?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:26 No.6422791

    A single christian goes on a cross to be turned into a (secondary) angel. He then fights the battle, and ascends or is killed.

    An entire cell being put on a cross brings about a true angel. All are subsumed.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:27 No.6422803

    Roman Empire is a badass motherfucker. Caesar receives divine backing from Jupiter when he becomes Emperor as well as a number of mechs crafted by Vulcan. As such, he is able to avoid assassination and the Roman Empire expands dramatically. It goes as far north as the Baltic Sea all the way south to the Congo, from Spain in the west to India in the East.

    However, everything is not sunshine and lollipops for Rome. The invasion of the British Isles failed because the mechs were too heavy to be transported across the channel by boat, and the army had grown overly reliant on their use. Boudica marshaled a counter attack that managed to take away the northern coast of Gaul from the Romans. Jupiter, has since offered to reward any man who captures Boudica by proclaiming him heir to the Empire (Jupiter wants to fuck her).

    Additionally, while the conquest of India went off without a hitch, the invasion of China went poorly. The Chinese proved to be a more powerful foe than the Romans had expected, fielding numerous terracotta soldiers, rockets, and alchemical weapons.

    Now the Chinese are pushing back against he Romans into India. The native Indians, sensing an opportunity, have taken this chance to rebel against the Romans, using stolen mechs and being lead by avatars of their gods.

    The Mongols have begun invading China from the north and the Roman Empire via the Caucuses, and are fucking up shit all around.

    Meanwhile the Christians have not taken their persecution lying down and are actively fighting against the Empire. That said, while their faith is unwavering, they're few in number and resort mostly to "terrorist" tactics.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:27 No.6422816
    Makes a damn lot of sense.

    I really wish I could draw for you, I'm not a very good artist but if nobody else wants to, you deserve at least one for this kickass idear. I'm afraid I'm on a linux belonging to a relative right now and I'm not about to learn to use gimp or download any programs.

    I can however, post some later on tomorrow. Would you guys like that?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:28 No.6422824

    According to mythology, Romulus and Remus- and by extension all Romans, were descended from Mars. So one needs a sufficient amount of the Blood of Mars in them for the machine to respond.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:28 No.6422825

    Doctrine would state that the sacrificed man / men go straight to Heaven and sit at the throne of God. In reality, their souls are burned as fuel to manifest the ultra-powerful being, and cease existing when the transformation ceases.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:29 No.6422835
    The sacrifice Christian is used mostly a "connection" of the Angel, the Angel lets the sacrificed control it in the material plane.

    The angel slowly devours the sacrificed soul through faith in God.

    In other words, think of Ultraman
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)03:30 No.6422841
    That works for me. So they don't commit suicide, but agree to be sacrificed for the greater good, as it were.

    I kinda like this idea. I also sort of see some kind of component internally that is directly a font of divine power, that runs the machine in question. In essence, when the Britons touch it, it shatters causing the machine to break down and no longer be powered. Which is why they have to use the Magick of the Faye to create a new power source, in combination with their own Clockwork to run the remade mech.

    The question is, what is the Briton Prime machine? What about some kind of Redcap powered murder machine?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:30 No.6422842
    Naile's talking about the other sort of angel there. You mean the ones when a single person ascends, Naile means the ones who descend from on high.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:31 No.6422852
    Clarification on Christians and angels.

    Christians are capable of sacrificing their own to summon two types of beings.

    The first is the mech or "ascendant angel". It's the physical manifestation of a single devotee's faith and soul. When it's destroyed, so is his soul. No soul, no afterlife, and, as such, this is viewed as the highest sacrifice a believer can make.

    Next are the real angels. The fucked up Old Testament / Revelations stuff. They're big, bad, freaky looking, and one of the most powerful things out there. But they require the sacrifice of an entire Christian cell, and are used only during the most dire of circumstances.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:34 No.6422879

    In the impending writefaggotry, I'm referring to the first flavor as Heralds. The second would be Seraphim, and even looking upon them is said to cause death.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:35 No.6422895

    The God Machine mechs crafted by Vulcan require the "fire of Rome" to be piloted. While the majority of these people are going to be Latin Romans, it isn't a requirement. It's more about discipline and loyalty to Rome than anything else. A person could have been born in Egypt and still be capable of piloting one, if he's devoted enough.

    The standard mechs crafted the Romans don't have any special requirements, allowing them to be stolen and used by any (the Britons/Indians for example)
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)03:37 No.6422919
    I thought it was Prime: Cherubim and Secondary: Seraphim? According to the Wikipedia there's 3 spheres of angels with 3 types of angel each.

    * First Sphere (Old Testament sources)
    o Seraphim
    o Cherubim
    o Thrones (Gr. thronos) (New Testament sources)

    * Second Sphere (New Testament sources)
    o Dominions (Gr. Kyriotetes)
    o Virtues (Gr. Dynamais)
    o Powers (Gr. Exusiai)[3]

    * Third Sphere
    o Principalities (Gr. Archai)[4]
    o Archangels - Archangeloi
    o Angels - Angeloi
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:39 No.6422937

    I though all of those spheres composed what would be the primary "True Angels".
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:40 No.6422945
    I think somebody suggested Norsemen to have a faction here, but I think that would be a bit much. Maybe if they are included, they would mainly attack whoever they crossed regardless, but have a special beef for the Britons, being one of the weaker groups. Their devices would be longships that while small and fragile, contained some serious firepower, and Berserkers who drink special potions to become titans capable of at least handling the tertiaries.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:40 No.6422952
    >The question is, what is the Briton Prime machine? What about some kind of Redcap powered murder machine?

    Britons take Roman mechs and druid them up.

    Their secondary troop would be berserkers/woad warriors who have pumped themselves up with drugs and druid magic to turn themselves into madmen on the battlefield capable of fucking things up.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:41 No.6422965

    Seems kind of weak in comparison to other primaries, and what would the tertiary be?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:42 No.6422968

    IIRC, the Cherubim are more numerous, and the Seraphim are the HOLY FUCK WHAT IS THIS variety. Besides, you'd have to throw out the vast majority of the New Testament, as it was written and compiled tens to hundreds of years after the setting. And of course, different groups might have different names for the angels, as Christianity would be a loose affiliation of individual cells.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:42 No.6422974
    Early assed early roman machines should be a more bulky version of greek machines

    Early Roman machines should be tiny and numerous, using rails(rome's massive system of roads) to travel quickly from place to place. They'll be able to charge and bash enemies with their bigass shields, and then a spring mechanism knocks them again and stabs the shit out of them. These machines should not necessarily be based on human form, rather, for their efficiency.

    Later romans ought to be more humanlike, more varied, and based off of Rome's flaws.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:42 No.6422978
    Hmm. A recap of the different things we have, by faction and tier:

    Primary: God machines. Created by Vulcan.
    Secondary: Made by empowered smiths.
    Tertiary: Failed Secondaries, essentially just power armor.

    Primary: True angels. Crazy Revelations shit. Summoned by the self-sacrifice of a cell.
    Secondary: Newborn angels. A single christian ascends.
    Tertiary: Christians. They are resurrected each time they die, and have body parts which direct are gifts from god.

    Primary: Dragons
    Secondary: ???
    Tertiary: Terracotta warriors

    Primary: Mecha-Shiva
    Secondary: ???
    Tertiary: ???

    Primary: ???
    Secondary: Looted Roman Secondaries, powered by fey energy.
    Tertiary: ???

    Biological horrors. No tier system, each unique.

    Norsemen: Runic armor keeps their power from fleeing; it is used to weild fuckhuge weapons and kill things better.
    Rus: Bear cavalry.
    Gauls: Potion fueled warriors, see Asterix and Obelisk.

    I think this is everything?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:43 No.6422980

    The vikings are mercenaries who sell their services to the highest bidder.

    They have dire bears and runic armor that infuses them with the strength to wield weapons capable of fucking up mechs.

    They've also been merged/allied with Russia to allow them to be present on both sides of the Empire.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:43 No.6422984
    Those would be the prime, maybe the order like summoning a First Rank would have a greater sacrifice compare to summoning a Second Rank

    so it would make sense attacking a bigger community of Christians would be downright more a pyric(sorry don't remember the spelling) victory, attacking smaller isolated is much prefer

    in this way even if Christians are a minor power, you just don't piss and exterminate them off
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)03:44 No.6422990
    Fine by me.

    To be clear, the Christian hierarchy goes like this:

    Prime-Descended angel from on high. Consumes many martyred Christian souls, utterly destroying them.

    Secondary-Christian ascendant. Consumes a couple Christians souls to temporarily ascend to a higher state of being.

    Tertiary-Christian soldiers. Men who have pledged their faith and loyalty to Jesus, who writhe even now on the Roman Excrutiatus Cross. They are returned to life by their god, scarred as they were in life. Any missing limbs are replaced with divine augments.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:45 No.6423004

    Druid-cannons. Like, taking solar energy and photosynthetic energy from plants to burn shit.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:46 No.6423009
    Primary - Homegrown tree mechs made from reverse engineering Roman stuff
    Secondary - Looted Roman secondary mechs with fey addons
    Tertiary - Woad warrior berserkers
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:46 No.6423015
    >in reality
    NO. According to Romans, perhaps. We are not asserting any absolute reality on that sort of thing.

    Probably the first two circles would be our "primary" angels then, the third sphere would be our "secondary" level guys.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:46 No.6423016
    Druidic mechs ought to be made of plant like substances(namely trees), some fungi, bone, skin, and sinew.

    Imagine a huge fungus mech with multiple sorts of antlers, draped in trinkets, with long and spindly spider legs. Maybe a spore cannon that grows trees in other mechs like a watermellon seed in their belly.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:47 No.6423029

    But considering how fuckhuge the Roman Empire is, it's only a matter of time before one of the emperors decides to end it.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)03:48 No.6423038
    Yes, but that's kind of the point. They're an underground sect within the Roman Empire. The fact that their units are mostly summoned is PERFECT.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:49 No.6423046

    No, it's acknowledged by the Christians that becoming a herald/ascendant leads to the death of their soul. The fact that they're still willing to do it speaks to their fervent devotion.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:50 No.6423054
    with the Chinese, their primary should compose other than dragons like the Chinese Constellations like a XBOX HUGE MECHANICAL RAT

    Secondaries are mechs that are constructed like Jade or similar things like that

    Tertiary well the Terracotta swarm
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:50 No.6423058
    >Secondary-Christian ascendant. Consumes a couple Christians souls to temporarily ascend to a higher state of being.
    >A couple
    No. Just one. But if killed in this form, he is dead forever. No heaven. If he survives the battle, he ascends to heaven and may no longer do good work on earth. And the transformation is excruciating, of course.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:50 No.6423061

    Death only happens when a herald/ascendant is destroyed in battle. Otherwise they well... ascend.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:50 No.6423062

    Fair enough. When you're tinkering with this kind of esoteric spiritual shit, all reality is subjective anyways. ~_^
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:52 No.6423071

    Well, if things are bad enough that they have to summon a herald, the odds aren't in his favor. And I'm sure that the Romans would prioritize to taking him out ASAP.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)03:52 No.6423073
    So anyone got a good timeline for this? It looks like 4th or 5th century at least.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:52 No.6423076
    yea but will you waste sending a God Machine, Legions of Secondary Machines and hordes of fodder machines to actually win?

    plus the resources wasted could have been used against less dangerous armies
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:52 No.6423080
    Not Saxons brah, they were way later than this historical period. We're looking at Celts.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:54 No.6423090

    No one has any clue.

    We just know that there are mongols and that Boudica is alive. Caesar might currently be alive, but he may have since passed. All that's required there is that he wasn't assassinated by Cassius et al.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:55 No.6423098
    Celts, Picts, and Scots. But the Celts are the ones who got ahold of roman mechs and made them usable by druid magic.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:56 No.6423116
    Caesar is alive. He's probably like a hundred years old, though. He remains young because of Jupiter's endorsement.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:57 No.6423118

    Oh, yeah, it won't happen anytime soon. But once Rome is finished with China and Mongolia, they'll probably come back to get rid of the Christians before pushing into Southern Africa/Japan.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:57 No.6423122
    Hunters/gatherers infuse themselves with the powers of nature.

    As society begins to develop, this power is given to a small elite of spiritual leaders, and these leaders use their sway to create gods using some kind of discworld type system.

    Some where around when the greeks were getting their shit together these gods decide to give back, and they regain the knowledge of how to fuck with shit like their hunter gatherer ancestors could, as well as generally help their asses out.

    And then everyone exploits the fuck out of it, the end.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)03:57 No.6423123
    I'd prefer to bring the timeline up to be honest. Why not just say that important figures in history get the backing of their gods and live way the fucker longer than they're supposed to?

    Potentially becoming demi-deities themselves.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:58 No.6423133

    Eh, I'm not so sure about that. Especially since Jupiter is offering to make the guy who gets him Boudica next in line to become Emperor.

    So, even if Caesar has a prolonged lifespan, he'll still kick the bucket eventually.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:59 No.6423141

    Sort of becoming the champion of their patron's cause.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)03:59 No.6423150
    I prefer the timeline before the birth of Constantine
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:00 No.6423154

    I was thinking that during the extremely botched invasion of the British Isles Caesar was in some way killed in action.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:00 No.6423159
    For the undecided units, how about:

    Secondary- similar to Roman secondaries, fashioned in the shape of lesser gods like Ganesha
    Tertiary- ascetics who like the berserkers are immune to pain and do crazy shit like light themselves on fire while fighting

    Secondary- actual tanks. The Chinese have exclusive use of gunpowder, and will establish giant cannons and shit to take down the other mechs from a range.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:02 No.6423173

    I don't think the Roman Emperor would be caught going into battle without his Romulus class mech. And given that the reason the Romans lost there was because they didn't have their mechs, I think it's safe to say that Caesar wasn't present.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:03 No.6423187
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    >Secondary- actual tanks.

    Make them tanks that shoot concentrated tao energy.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:03 No.6423189

    Instead, Octavian lead the assault on the British Isles, and ended up killed in the process, thus never becoming Augustus Caesar.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:05 No.6423205

    JUST.. SO RIGHT...
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:05 No.6423215

    That or maybe Brutus was rewarded for exposing Cassius's betrayal by being given what was thought would be an easy conquest to boost his reputation.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:06 No.6423229

    For India, I was thinking of secondary being the lesser Avatars, the ones that they initially meet with and start their fight, with primaries being hidden, infinitely more powerful Avatars that were scattered about in various temples in the distant past, as mentioned briefly in the last thread.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)04:07 No.6423236
    Ahhh, but what about the Brit counter attack? It would be freaking awesome if the Brit Primary was some kind of giant fucking Tree-creature encased in the armor of Romulus, forged by Vulkan.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:07 No.6423243
    Yeah, octavian should be ceasar's right hand man.

    Also, what about the germans, slavs, arabs, and africans that aren't egyptians
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:09 No.6423257
    Suddenly, Aztecs rush in on riding giant flying Pyramids and dropping crazy stone lions on everybody.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:10 No.6423275
    Chinese should have stone lions too, they love that shit. Shintoism too.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:10 No.6423284

    But, if the boat isn't able to support normal mechs, it definitely wouldn't support the biggest one in the Roman arsenal, and considering that it's the biggest baddest mech in the Roman arsenal, it's presence would have assured a better outcome for Rome.

    That and the Romulus mech is only taken out of Rome for special occasions, which I doubt the British Isles would qualify as.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:12 No.6423292

    Germans, Africans, and Arabs got conquered by Rome.

    Some slavs have been conquered by Rome, some others are part of the Viking-Russian mercenary nation.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:12 No.6423297

    Shinto= Japan

    Since this shit is crazy enough as is, let's assume that Greenland is as far West as we have gone, Japan remains isolationist due to the Divine Wind that prevented the Mongols from taking over, and that African south of Egypt has it's own spiritual flavor, but all in all is not on the list of concerns for the Romans.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:12 No.6423301
    Primary: Dragons
    Secondary: Jade Wagons (tanks)
    Tertiary: Terracotta warriors

    Primary: Greater Avatars - Shiva, Mishra, Brahma
    Secondary: Lesser Avatars - Ganesha etc
    Tertiary: Monks

    Primary: ???
    Secondary: Looted Roman Secondaries, powered by fey energy.
    Tertiary: ???

    We need work on the Celts. Also, I feel like the Mongols need work. We really ought to give them proper tiers.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:12 No.6423306
    What about neptune though. Did the romans just piss him off or something?

    And speaking of planets. Pluto and his fellow titan bots, where do you stand on these?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:13 No.6423315

    Nah, Aztecs will be saved for when Rome/China/Mongolia finish their fight. The winner goes on to the new world to face the final boss of Earth.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:15 No.6423344
    >What about neptune though. Did the romans just piss him off or something?

    There are Neptune inspired mechs, but they're not transports. They blow up other boats / attack coastal settlements.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:16 No.6423364
    Top tier: Eldricht horrors with bows

    Mid tier: Mongol seige weaponry(ghengis was a brutal mothafucka when it came to seige)

    Shit tier, lesser horrors on horses with bows
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:16 No.6423367
    Mercenary races.

    The Celts didn't get them from the invasion. We just haven't decided where they did get them yet.

    Conquered nations still produce mercenaries.

    Africans further south are irrelevant, the Sahara prevents them from interacting with anyone we care about.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:18 No.6423389
    Perhaps Neptune provided the only mechs that were used in the invasion of Celtica. Thus all Celtic mechs would actually be Neptune's, not Vulkans.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:19 No.6423402
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    Primary: Pure eldritch horror. Highly variable, for obvious reasons.
    Secondary: Eldritch horror biosuits. Stand a few feet taller than a man riding a horse, and are considerably faster. They're able to create sharp claws to mess up troops when they charge, or they can lob acid at the enemy ranks.
    Tertiary: Good old-fashioned archers on horseback. Lots of them.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)04:19 No.6423406
    Is this Eldritch Horror thing infecting everything of the Mongols? So even the Horses are now some kind of Chitinous creature with fangs, an ichor dripping maw, and claws?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:20 No.6423411
    Sounds cool, vulcan doesn't seem like he'd suit the brits anyways.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:21 No.6423419
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:22 No.6423430
    >We just haven't decided where they did get them yet.

    They got them when they invaded Gaul. The Romans were caught off guard and clever tactics on Boudica's part allowed them to capture a decent number of mechs quickly. They knew to go for the mechs because Roman soldiers who had been captured in the failed invasion frequently said that things would have gone differently if they had their mechs.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:24 No.6423462
    Mongol Fluff:

    A Mongol warrior's initiation involves a type of channeling that allows a spirit to enter one's body. This possession causes the warrior to mutate. Generally, the more powerful the spirit who enters the body, the more profound the mutation. Due to the wide variety of spirits and the individuality of people, the shapes of the warriors will vary greatly. This leads other factions to believe that the Mongols cannot be divided as they are into ranks.

    But ranks do exist, and roughly work as such:

    Primary: The most fucked up. The size of Giants, usually with extra or disproportionate limbs. In addition, Primaries can channel their Spirit's power, creating ranged attacks, barriers, or bolstering other spirit-imbued.
    Secondary: Can range from 8 feet tall to the size of primaries, but normally don't possess the same degree of mutation as Primaries. The main difference is the lack of spirit magic though.
    Tertiaries: Either normal size with a lot of fucked up limbs, or large but rather normal.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:25 No.6423470
    >Primary: ???


    >Primary: ???

    Big ass treant-like mechs created by druids.

    >Tertiary: ???

    Berserkers / Woad warriors.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)04:26 No.6423494
    Maybe the industrious Brits have some means of getting the mechs back across the ocean? Or are they basically impervious until someone figures out how to build a big boat?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:26 No.6423495
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    A Mongol army preparing to siege Beijing.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:27 No.6423505
    For mongols, how about:
    Primary: Great Horrors. Many legged and bigger than ships.
    Secondary: Siege. Still biological.
    Tertiary: Horse archers, but touched by the horrors. The rider's legs are vestigial, he needs a horse to get around. His bow is an outgrowth of bone from his own wrist.,
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:28 No.6423510
    how did the Chinese depicted the Mongols, wild men?

    also what was the Mongols' prime religion at that period?
    >> Warpspasm 10/25/09(Sun)04:28 No.6423513
    Back guys, I'm thinking we need a name for this setting and am proposing God Machines (one or two words, it doesn't matter)
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:30 No.6423536
    How in hell did they get them back to Britain? Or do they have a foothold in Gaul now?
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)04:31 No.6423545
    Fucking awesome. Twisted.

    Hmm. God Machines is pretty cool. I was thinking something along the lines of "Imperial Age" or something roman-y sounding.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:31 No.6423546

    Tie them between ships, sail carefully.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:31 No.6423551
    >Maybe the industrious Brits have some means of getting the mechs back across the ocean?

    I'm not sure what you're getting at. They captured their mechs when they got to the mainland and that's where they use them. They don't need to be able to transit their creations.

    >Or are they basically impervious until someone figures out how to build a big boat?

    They aren't impervious. It'd be possible for the Romans to conquer the Isle without using mechs - it'd just require more intelligent commanders and more troops than normal, but, since the Romans dropped the ball, they're playing the defensive right now.
    >> Questing Knigh/tg/uy !!3OliFLeQMTB 10/25/09(Sun)04:31 No.6423552
    If I remember correctly they didn't really have a region of their own, but they did adopt the religion of those they conquered(which means Islam and Buddhism mostly.)
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:31 No.6423553

    Brother Anatole wiped the sweat from his brow as he kept watch on the narrow defile. The cliff fort, a long-abandoned brigand stronghold that was more cave than building, had served them well. They'd held out against the Romans for three days, and, Jehova willing, they had supplies to continue doing so for several weeks. Brother Elezar emerged from below and joined him on the battlement.

    "Any change?"
    "No. Since the assault last night, there's been no sight of them. Perhaps they're content to wait us out."
    "Then they may know the location of this place, but not the nature. The grain stocks are full, the spring sweet and ever-flowing. So long as the Romans do not breach the walls, we are as safe here as anywhere." Elezar chuckled. "Far safer than the streets of Jerusalem."
    Anatole shot him a stern look. "Do not underestimate the Romans. That they even found our stronghold shows that they are resourceful."
    "Or that we have a traitor in our midst." Elezar spat. "If so, may he burn in Sheol for all time. And may our blades send him swiftly."
    "Peace, Elezar. Did our Lord not say, 'Blessed are the meek,'? If Jehova wills it, it will be so."

    Anatole returned to his vigil, and Elezar turned to go and tend the wounded, then froze. He'd heard - no, he'd felt something, a vibration coming up through his feet. Like an earthquake, or many men marching in step. He turned back to Anatole. "Do you feel that?"
    Anatole's mouth hardened into a grim line. "They come again. Warn the others."
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:31 No.6423557
    That name sound gay to me, but I have no better suggestion.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:32 No.6423565

    Elezar raced below, and returned several minutes later with the contingent that manned the battlement. In the meantime, the vibration grew ever stronger, until it could be felt deep within the rock itself. The men prepared their weapons, as the priests prepared poultices for the inevitable wounded and blessed the fighting men. Finally, after an eternity of creeping dread, the first glint of steel could be seen at the mouth of the defile. Then the battle standard came around the edge and into full view. Anatole gasped and drained to a ghostly pallor.

    "Iesu save us, it's the Legio VIII Mechanicus."

    Several men groaned aloud as the realization of their imminent death hit them like a hammer blow. Now the monstrosities were in plain view. Twice as tall as a man and emblazoned with the Imperial eagle, these were some of the least of Rome's mechanical works. Still, they were more than a match for anything the Christians had at-hand, and would hew through them like a scythe through wheat. And the men that controlled them were battle-hardened veterans known for their savagery. They had just returned from the sack of Persepolis and had nothing but contempt for the undisciplined Christian partisans. There would be no resurrection for the men here; their bodies would be dismembered and burned, their sanctified tombs defiled. On they came at a near-parade march, as though this were a tree-lined Roman avenue and not a killing field. Behind and around them were the legionaires, looking like so many armored children beside the steel behemoths.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:32 No.6423567

    They control the northern part of Gaul, and are making attacks further into Roman territory.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:33 No.6423571

    As they closed, the defenders let loose with arrow and javelin. They wounded a legionaire or two, but plinked harmlessly off the thick steel carapaces of the great armored suits. The legionaires threw a return volley of javelins, and now it was the defenders' turn to bleed and die. A few men were struck, and a priest went down with a javelin in his neck, gasping like a fish in a net. The armored units had reached the wall and began hacking and battering it into rubble. Brother Baram, the leader of the men on the wall, saw the direness of the situation and ordered the use of their most precious weapon: several amphorae of Greek Fire. The legionaires scattered before the clinging liquid fire, but the armored units stood unfazed. One armored suit took a direct hit from an amphora and was set ablaze. It became a nightmare beast, a burning demon who implacably hammered upon the slowly crumbling wall. As the steel heated, it even began to glow and make an unearthly shrieking sound. Some of the defenders broke and fled at the sight. Eventually the armor fell and was still, but a dozen more still methodically went about reducing the wall to so much broken rock.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:33 No.6423581
    Call it History but with Mechs for shits and giggles.

    Pretty sure their religion was fightin, although I'm probably wrong.


    The primary tactics used against christians is capture and mind wash. Originally they were outright killed but it has been discovered that death makes them more powerful. Their whole culture is based on death, after all.

    Unfortunately there are times when christians will off themselves in favor of more powerful, but fortunately temporary troops. In this case one must buckle up and defend. Prevent as many casualties as possible and wait for the lost souls to fade from this realm, and you will have made their sacrifice for nothing.

    While these strategies can be difficult to carry out and a downright pain, it is necessary.(WHOOPS POSTAD IN THE OTHERTHRAD)
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:33 No.6423582

    Anatole stopped in mid-bowshot. A strange peace settled over him as he dropped his weapon and strode purposefully away from the face of the wall. He grabbed the highest ranking priest by the shoulder and turned him around. "Gather the elders. We must begin The Ritual with haste if we are to have time."
    A look of horror and shock crossed the priest's face. "Surely, brother, the situation is dire, but not so dire that we might need summon a Herald."
    Anatole shook his head no. "There is no choice. If we do not, not a man here will survive, nor rise again. We do this, and we do it now."
    The priest ran to pass word, and Anatole turned and shouted to the men. "Hold fast! Fight to the last breath, and you shall rise again to serve our Lord! Glory to God in the highest!"
    The men shouted back as one, "And to the risen Iesu!"

    The old stronghold was well-fortified, but even thick walls of stone could not resist the pummeling of the armored units forever. The wall buckled and fell, crushing defenders and opening a wound through which the Romans could pour. The Christians fought valiantly to defend the breach but were no match for Roman steel and the monstrous suits, which crushed man and rock alike in their effort to widen the hole. The defenders refused to fall back and were slaughtered where they stood. As the Romans gained the breech, the commanding centurion surveyed the scene before him.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:35 No.6423601

    The wall and the cliff face created a courtyard that backed onto a cave. Christians continued to throw themselves fearlessly at the legionaires, fighting men and unarmed clerics alike, singing the praises of the risen Iesu as they died. Beyond them were a group of defenders, obviously elites, their battle scars declaring their hard-earned martial prowess. And beyond them, in front of the cave mouth, stood a single cross with Anatole crucified upon it, surrounded by chanting priests. The centurion shouted orders to his men to kill the man on the cross, but he was too late.

    Even as he spoke, Anatole screamed and pulsed with a blinding inner light. His flesh seemed to melt away and vanished, replaced by a pillar of white light. The light coalesced and took on the form of a two-story tall armored man with four wings, beautiful and terrible of visage. He reached into the empty air before him and drew forth a flaming greatsword. His mouth opened, and a voice like a trumpet thundered from everywhere, shaking the very foundations of the mountains and cracking the mortar of the stone wall. "YOU WHO WOULD SEEK TO DESTROY THE FAITHFUL, SHALL DIE TODAY!"

    The Herald lashed out with his sword and killed a half dozen legionaires in a single blow. The rest broke and attempted to flee, but were stopped by the bulk of the armored units pushing through the gap. The first armored soldier charged the angelic form alone and was neatly cleaved in two, sparks showering in all directions. Three more came on together, landing hits but not perceptibly slowing the Herald before being similarly dispatched. The remaining living Christians rallied at the sight and threw themselves into battle with a renewed fervor, all the while singing hymns of thanksgiving.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:35 No.6423610

    When the battle was won and the Romans had all died or fled, the Christians gathered around the titanic angel. The eldest cleric spoke: "Thanks be to you, servant of Jehova, for your effort has saved us all."
    With that, his gaze turned skyward, and he dimmed and faded from view.

    Elezar fell to his knees, weeping openly. Baram placed his hand on the man's head and said, "Weep not for your lost friend, for he sits now at the right hand of Jehova. Weep for we living, who must continue to struggle against the might of Rome." He then turned and walked away, joining the priests in the duty of entombing his fallen men, that they might rise again.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:37 No.6423640
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    Have you ever been on a boat? They would not be able to turn, as they would need to move in different (BUT VERY PRECISE) ways, and would have the same wind. Also, the movement would be in a manner which would be literally impossible. In order to tack, they'd need to turn every couple of hours. Not to mention that they'd have huge mechs weighing down one side and tipping the ships.

    I say just give them a foothold on the Iberian peninsula.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:39 No.6423663
    >I say just give them a foothold on the Iberian peninsula.

    Gaul would be closer. Specifically the beaches of Normandy
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)04:40 No.6423678
    I approve of your work today, Writefriend. Thank you for your contribution.

    It can use some work here and there. Just the tightening of screws but hell. It is awesome.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:41 No.6423691
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:41 No.6423696

    Yeah, it's hard as shit to write coherently in one go when constantly being hounded by guests. Do actual work, at your job? HERESY.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:45 No.6423739
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    I just remembered that the monsters I'm designing for a school project sort of fits with the mongolian fluff.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:46 No.6423748
    The Herald in this case would be Anatole, ascended.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)04:47 No.6423761
    Heh. Plus the fluff for this concept is in constant flux.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)04:47 No.6423767
    Woah, fuck! I love that shit.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:50 No.6423802
    The Christians are pretty concrete right now.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:50 No.6423807

    I ran with it as that the person sacrificed is subsumed. You do not BECOME the angel, you summon him / her / it.


    Very alien symbiote. Me likey.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:51 No.6423819
    I saved the general unit ideas, and the writefagging. If this thread goes on to later today (fuck it's 5 already?), I'll update it. Otherwise, it was fun while it lasted.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:51 No.6423822
    Don't the Jews have access to Golems?
    In this way during their early years they were a force to be reckoned with.

    With the arrival of the Romans and their Secondary machines, using mechanized tactics in coordination with their infantry rather relying on shock and awe used by golems then a follow upcharge by infantry, they managed to conquer Israel

    Now the term "Golem" is a degrading term for these are mechs that resembles the Golems of olden times, yet used only in construction and manual labor. Also requires now workers inside of them rather than an autonomous unit before.

    The Golem today is more an amalgam of Roman mechanical engineering combined with the looks of old.

    Golem design have also been limited in power, that it will take at least 10 of them to bring down one Secondary Legionnaire. The materials are barely enough sturdy so when a Roman machine hits it, it is easily destroyed
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:53 No.6423845
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    A bit of fleshing out for the Mongolians...

    Mongol tribes live with creatures referred to as "spirit-kin". They're bizarre looking creatures with no real similarity or reason to their appearance, but they are considered to be related to humans in soul if not in form. The Khan leading the Mongolians currently has a spirit-kin wife.

    In battle some Mongolians will merge with a spirit-kin to augment their own powers in battle, while other more powerful spirit-kin (or less noteworthy humans) will fight without a human partner.

    When the Mongolians capture a settlement, they allow the spirit-kin to run through the city, killing, eating, and even merging with people as they please. Those who are merged with a spirit-kin are adopted into the Mongol tribe as newly found family. The conquered people who are neither eaten nor adopted are left to continue their lives on the condition that they provide resources and aid to their new Mongol masters.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)04:58 No.6423891
    >Don't the Jews have access to Golems?

    Yeah, the word golem comes from hebrew.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:03 No.6423957
    You know, if this were a tabletop wargame, I think I'd play as the Mongols.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)05:05 No.6423987
    The Mongols are pretty badass, but I'd probably play as the Brits. Or the Vikings. Or the Romans.

    ...Fuck. Or the Christians. I've got to admit. They're pretty badass too.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:05 No.6423992
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    Mongolian warrior; over 9000 hours in paint.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:05 No.6423998
    I meant if they were using Golems at that time
    well I just wrote >>6423822 in case they had access to Golems before Rome conquered them
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:07 No.6424033
    Deus in Machina
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)05:09 No.6424054
    What about just "Deus Machina"? Does anyone else have that?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:11 No.6424060
    I kind of like it, but the merging needs to be permanent, not just in battle. And SpiritKin shouldn't generally be wandering around free. They're souls; they need bodies. Thus they trade power to the Mongolians in exchange for simply being allowed to ride along.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:11 No.6424064

    Machina ex Deus?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:11 No.6424065
    The only thing Google brings up is some band.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:12 No.6424084

    I'd lean toward the Vikings. Berserkers with rune-etched axes that can sunder the very ground? FUCK YEAH!


    Deus Machina... God Machine. Pretty straightforward.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:12 No.6424085
    Machina Deius.
    Means "God-Machine".
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:13 No.6424098
    Machina Dei. Fuck yeah, Latin!
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:13 No.6424102
    throwing my vote in for Deus Machina

    it literally translates to God Machine
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:14 No.6424108
    Romans - space marines/eldar
    Shining armours, epicness and dicipline, advanced society and huge empire.

    Chinese - imperial guard/tyranids
    swarms of warriors, and dragons overhead.

    Brits - tau ?
    Copypaste technology

    Barbarians - orks.

    Mongols - tyranids/chaaos demons
    self explainatory

    Christians - necrons
    self explainatory
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:14 No.6424112

    Wouldn't that be "machine of god"?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:15 No.6424120
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:15 No.6424123
    Vikings are mercs though, they'd be pretty limited in choices.

    Speaking of mercs:
    >germans, arabs, and africans as mercs
    Let's get on that. Any thoughts?

    Those Jew Golems can be mercs too.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:16 No.6424132
    A change my vote to this.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:17 No.6424143
    Brits are more like Orks than any of the barbarians.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)05:18 No.6424160
    I'm thinking the yay's have it.

    Machina Dei

    it is.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:21 No.6424187
    Vikings won't exist yet unless we move the timeline forward 1000 years or so.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:22 No.6424206

    Technically, I don't think the Mongols would be present in the form that they're being portrayed, either.
    >> The current list of what we have Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:23 No.6424211
    Primary: God machines. Created by Vulcan.
    Secondary: Made by empowered smiths.
    Tertiary: Failed Secondaries, essentially just power armor.

    Primary: True angels. Crazy Revelations shit. Summoned by the self-sacrifice of a cell.
    Secondary: Newborn angels. A single christian ascends.
    Tertiary: Christians. They are resurrected each time they die, and have body parts which direct are gifts from god.

    Primary: Dragons
    Secondary: Jade Wagons (tanks)
    Tertiary: Terracotta warriors

    Primary: Greater Avatars - Shiva, Mishra, Brahma
    Secondary: Lesser Avatars - Ganesha etc
    Tertiary: Monks

    Primary: ???
    Secondary: Looted Roman Secondaries, powered by fey energy.
    Tertiary: ???

    Primary: Great Ones. Bigger than most buildings, utterly inhuman.
    Secondary: Spirit-kin. They burn away quickly if they don't merge with somebody.
    Tertiary: Warriors. Merged with a spirit-kin and mounted, they rely primarily on bows. Fairly similar to humans.

    Norsemen: Runic armor keeps their power from fleeing; it is used to weild fuckhuge weapons and kill things better.
    Rus: Bear cavalry.
    Gauls: Potion fueled warriors, see Asterix and Obelisk.
    Jews: Golems. They do not need to be driven, and are powered by the words in their heads.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:23 No.6424223
    Then make them proto-Vikings and proto-Mongols. No skin off of anyone's balls.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)05:24 No.6424224
    Personally I think we should. I think that with the Divine intervention, escalation shouldn't expand into the scientific, but the deific instead.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:25 No.6424244

    Celt primary: Jack o' the Wood. A fuckhuge ent-esque nature spirit.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:26 No.6424254

    The Celts are essentially the nature equivalent to Rome. Instead of big metal mechs, they have big wooden ones.

    Primary: Treants
    Secondary: Looted Roman Secondaries
    Tertiary: Berserkers
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:26 No.6424257
    Less than half that. Vikings started around between 600 and 800. Our current year is anywhere from about 50 to maybe 300.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:27 No.6424259
    >Primary: ???
    >Tertiary: ???

    Primary: Massive druidic trees covered in tusks, horns, and various charms
    Tertiary: Woad Warriors/druidic warriors. normal dudes pumped up on crazy drugs and druidic magic
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:27 No.6424267

    I don't think it's that big of a deal, either way. I mean, we've already pretty much thrown history to the wind as it is.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:27 No.6424268
    It's not a terrible idea. Visible divine intervention would almost definitely keep the Roman Empire together enough for quite awhile, and the same could be said for most of the other sides.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:28 No.6424285
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:29 No.6424298
    Maybe we should have Olmec too.
    Primary: giant feathered serpents
    Secondary: animal warriors
    Tertiary: astronomers. Able to not only see but also slightly direct the future in the Olmec's favour. Try acting like Tzeentch sometimes.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:30 No.6424303
    Yeah. Genghis Khan was around in the 1100's, so the whole Mongol thing is enough of a stretch as it is.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:30 No.6424305
    >Visible divine intervention would almost definitely keep the Roman Empire together enough for quite awhile,

    Not just that, but that intervention has also allowed for them to more easily conquer the surrounding area, and the two biggest threats to the Empire on home turf are only threats because the bulk of the military is tied up with China and Mongolia. The Roman Empire we've created isn't set to fall any time soon.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:31 No.6424318

    Eh, I dunno about them, since the New World has stilled yet to be discovered
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:32 No.6424335
    Pretty much. Hell, most of the factions we've created are tenacious enough in some form or another to justify their continued existence.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:32 No.6424344
    I'd say no because they have no real border-based conflict with any of the factions.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:33 No.6424347
    No. No new world yet.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:33 No.6424353

    Hey, gotta leave something for the expansions. ~_^


    Exactly. The main reasons Rome fell was that the size was ungovernable and the end of expansion led to stagnation. UNSTOPPABLE KILLING MACHINES keeps that expansionism going full-bore, and it's a lot easier to keep the regional governors and generals in line when you can drop a century of power armored troops on their sorry asses.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:33 No.6424357

    Of them, I'd say that the Britons would be most likely to go down prematurely, since they don't have the same "oh shit" card the Christians do.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)05:33 No.6424358
    So is it agreed? We turn the clock forward one thousand years and look in upon what has developed? So a rough time of about 1500 or so?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:33 No.6424360
    Dude! They have divine giant flying snakes! I'm sure they can just fly across the atlantic and get a teleporter there.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:35 No.6424376

    That and I'd imagine having the mechs would help with long distance communication.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:35 No.6424382
    I'd vote for ~800-1000ish, personally.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:37 No.6424403

    That seems a bit late to me.

    I'd say closer to 700-800 Some people get to live longer via supernatural means, others get to be born early because plot demands it.

    Also I'd say that the calender should be based on when Caesar became emperor instead of the birth of Christ.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:38 No.6424417
    Lief Ericson was here
    Columbus is a faget
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:38 No.6424420

    Yeah, but they're a little busy trying to invade the Great Planes and fighting the Great Conclave (allied Native American tribes).

    Just leave the Americas be for the moment.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:39 No.6424426
    Plains. The Great Plains. Durrr. The middle of the North American continent does not consist of superlative aircraft.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:39 No.6424427
    Agreed on the Caesar bit. If the empire never becomes Christian, using AD for dates would be strange at best.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)05:40 No.6424437
    Crap. We need Historyfriends up in here.

    I don't know enough about the timeline to fuck it up properly.

    So guys. Great work tonight but I gotta go to bed in 20 minutes. I'll be saving the physical page on my computer, in the offchance no one archived this. (Suptg isn't working for me) But this shit has been great. I'll be trying to do a consolidated writeup on it soon.

    Also, the Mongol's eldritch horrors should be parasitic creatures that are inherently evil. The Mongols are really just hosts to them.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:41 No.6424442
    AD comes from Anno Domini which means after the year of our Lord IIRC. our Lord could just as well mean Caesar here.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:43 No.6424460

    I'd say that Anno Caesar (Anno Cesari?) would be better.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:44 No.6424476

    Even if we keep the AD abbreviation, we'd still be making the switch from BC to AD roughly 40 years earlier.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)05:44 No.6424481
    I'm down with this.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:44 No.6424482
    Yeah. It also keeps the point that this is an altered history across.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:45 No.6424494
    >Also, the Mongol's eldritch horrors should be parasitic creatures that are inherently evil.

    Eh... I dunno about inherently evil.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:46 No.6424497
    Celts should have like Nature's Avatars as prime units

    the calendar should be based on Caesar's Ascension to Demigod
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:48 No.6424520
    I'd say keep "good" and "evil" very subjective. Make the horrors not so much evil as alien. They think sentiently, just in very, very different ways.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:48 No.6424521
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    Rome used when the last consul took office to mark years. If they needed to use an absolute method they marked from when Rome was founded, ab urbe condita (AUC).
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:50 No.6424541
    This is so awesome, it sucks that I have to go to sleep. But it's like 6 in the morning here...
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:50 No.6424546
    Vikings needed now...but their tech has to be based around their Longships and their berserk warriors.
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    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:53 No.6424588
    Ok, present day in the setting is somewhere around 800-1000 Anno Ceasar.

    In the intervening centuries since Caesar became Emperor, the Roman Empire has expanded considerably in all directions, Christianity has at varying times been little more bands of faithful hiding in the wilderness to controlling a good portion of Isreal/Palestine. The Britons have pushed forward taking a respectable portion of Gaul away from the Romans. Scandinavians and the Rus have united under a single banner to provide their services as mercenaries known as vikings. The Mongol Horde is pushing forward into the Middle East via the Caucuses, and China is pushing against Rome into India
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:53 No.6424595
    Germania - whole europe (would´ve been great)
    tsingis-khan - whole russia and asia
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:55 No.6424606

    I'd go not so much for "evil" as "other". They're very, very clearly wholly alien. Their motivations would be inscrutable, they don't entirely grok human concepts, and they behave in ways that the Mongols find downright odd. Of course, the Mongols just shrug this off. (Which works, as the Mongols were one of the most permissive conquering cultures in history.) In mechanical terms, miniature game units would make periodic checks to do something other than what you want them to, and RPG NPCs / characters would use something similar to the rules for sentient weapons.

    Other factions, however, would see them as abominations vomited forth from the darkest pits of Sheol / Hades / wherever, and wholly evil.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:56 No.6424617

    It's possible that they might change to Caesar's crowning as Emperor due to the divine intervention associated with it, but that'd still work.

    Going off the AUC calender, the year would be around 1500-1700.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)05:56 No.6424619
    I think that the Romans should come into contact with the Mongols and find them horrific and repulsive. Keep in mind that the Roman Empire is MASSIVE and has weapons and highly trained warriors out the wazoo so they can handle another threat.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:59 No.6424644
    800-1000 is quite long
    we should keep it until 50-250 would suffice

    Constantine would been born, rebelled against the Roman Empire, get the "visions" from Christ using combined arms of Secondary Roman mechs, later reforming them to be Christian influence and Christian Armies by his side
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)05:59 No.6424650

    Err... the Mongols entering the middle east Via the Caucuses would put them in Roman Territory.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:01 No.6424665
    Christians shouldn't have any special tech.
    Nor should they actually sacrifice their own people, nor their enemies.

    The angel mechanic is good. But it should trigger when a Christian believer dies by pagan hand if the believer's cause is true.

    This would mean Christian armies get beefed up only after they start dying. Before that they've got nothing special. They just have to believe.

    The angels would manifest from the dead. If the enemies are driven off, the angels can raise and heal most of the fresh dead. Believer and pagan alike. A victorious Christian army can sustain pyrrhic victories like that, unless the opposition can hold the ground for long enough for the dead to be defiled.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:01 No.6424666
    Regarding timeline: it doesn't have to be Julius Caesar. Christian persecutions really got going under Nero. Boudicca fought against the Romans during his reign too. Nero's probably a better choice than Julius, because Julius was a military genius, while Nero was a self-obsessed fat fuck. This gives a reason why Rome, with its huge material advantages, hasn't already won.

    Oh, and by the way: at around this time, Cuchulainn is loose in Hibernia.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)06:02 No.6424676
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    Here's a modern day map, courtesy of Google maps. Someone draw territory lines if you can.

    I'm bad with locations.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:03 No.6424681

    Eh, given the setting changes, even if Constantine decided to join Christianity himself, it's still doubtful that many of his soldiers would have followed.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:04 No.6424698

    We already have them as being regularly resurrected in Necron-esque style. Sacrificing themselves or being completely wiped out and the corpses defiled would be the only ways that they stay deaded. This makes up for their relative small numbers.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)06:05 No.6424703
    Constantine could be some kind of Chosen saint though, sent to lead the flock of Jesus to a chosen land.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:08 No.6424736
    That the believers apply redemption to *anyone* after they win should do wonders to battle morale in opposing human soldiers.

    All kinds of machinery is exempt from redemption.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:08 No.6424737
    It would be like Horus Heresy, Constantine's forces will be driven back to the Byzantine
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:08 No.6424743
    Christians are solid, we spent three quarters of the last thread hammering out their details.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:10 No.6424763
    this thread is an inspiration.

    I am seriously considering running this. my only hang-up is that I don't like super giant mecha. 15 feet tall should be the upper limit. most are just power armor.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:10 No.6424766
    Even though we're mostly doing the setting right now, I wanted to get down to a little idea that's been niggling at my brain that I thought I'd contribute.

    If the Celts get treant/woodmechs, how the hell would it be effective against normal infantry with fire arrows?

    I think they should have some sort of temporary protective wards that cause anything fire based to fizzle out before impact (maybe?)

    Also, I think these mech/wood constructs should be able to "grow" their own weapons (poisonous spores for anti-infantry, sharpened stakes for cavalry and light mechs, fey energy for the bigguns) but they should also take time to grow, making them vulnerable during this period.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 10/25/09(Sun)06:13 No.6424794
    Alright guys. I'm saving this thread.

    Lets see if you can keep it going through the dawn and into the next day. Things that need doing:

    Some nuts and bolts on the Celts and "Mercenary" faction. A bit more fluff on the Romans (I think the Christianity sect has more fluff than they do.) Same with China.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:15 No.6424818

    Green wood doesn't burn, and these things are very much alive. The only thing they'd fear outright would be Greek Fire, due to its inextinguishable nature.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:18 No.6424850
    Julius in his agelessness has grown tired of governing, and lives only to fight the endless hordes in the east.

    Nero, the only living man that could be traced to Caesar was immediately placed on the throne. However, he turned out ill suited to managing such a large empire as well as dealing with the Briton and Christian threat.

    The pressure of this new job turned a simple aristocrat, living on his forefathers' fortune, absolutely mad. Nero now resides in the deepest reaches of the imperial palace. The governors of the various conquered regions of Rome are now left to rule, almost as separate nations, but with an uneasy equilibrium based on the mutual need for military support from each-other. Their beloved Julius Caesar cares not.

    The empire should be holy shit why haven't we conquered the world, and the answer should be lolnero. Mechs ought to travel quickly by rail as an added thought, after all Rome is notorious for it's roads.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:20 No.6424878
    I was thinking 24 feet tall for the ohmygodwe'refucked kinda mechs, but 15 is definately a staple for most armies.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:20 No.6424883
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    50000 hours in MS paint
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:22 No.6424906
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    Looks good dude, your hours of toil will not go unnoticed.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:24 No.6424934
    The Primaries are not something you see everyday. Bringing one to bear is a huge fucking deal. Secondaries would generally not exceed 15 feet, though some of the Heralds could. They aren't really mechs anyway though.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:24 No.6424936

    Roman fluff is super-easy. Most of it would be extensions of the existing history. Take the already extant centuries and legions, replace onagers and ballistae with mechs. There'd be some specialist units that would be nothing but mechs (like the Legio VIII Mechanicus in prior writefaggotry), and certain units would be built around supporting one single god-tier mech. If Vulcan and / or Mars is still actively meddling, have them keeping the generals and regional governors in line while keeping them busy chasing Boudica in hopes to ascend to the Imperial throne and demi-godhood.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:25 No.6424945
    It would seem the Christians have taken control of the seafloors. This could prove problematic.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:25 No.6424947

    Do remember that wood dont burn all that good, forestfires happen either by lightning strike or by the dry underbrush igniting and burning for a compartively long time before it sets off a tree.

    Wet or fresh wood can be virtually impossible to ignite, hard wood like oak is hard to ignite and when it do burn it burns very slowly and is hard to put out.

    Perhaps the Celts even use it as a tactic, cover an oak treant in tar and set it on fire, then make it run into a group of infantery.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:26 No.6424970

    it is a pretty big jump from roads to rails. especially with no steam engine.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:27 No.6424974
    That is a good point, we need more on the factions we're bullshitting all over the place on.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:28 No.6424987
    But magic....
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:28 No.6424990

    looks good
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:28 No.6424991
    >>6424766, this is >>6424947

    I like the treant torch (lol wicker man) concept quite a bit, but I think it'd be like a last ditch "oh fuck we're all going to die if we don't think of something" maneuver.

    Also, the romans get cool iron mechs and such, so how would shields work for a wooden mech? Or maybe the wood constructs are more easily produced than the Roman man machines to make up for their lack of real defense (kind of like tactics in the REAL roman era).
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:30 No.6425016
    >They aren't really mechs anyway though.

    No, they should be treated as more of one-shot superweapons. They're only usable for a limited time, and when they're done, you're still down one powerful believer for good. Combine with a culture of constant resurrection and the small number of Christians and they're unlikely to be spammed.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:32 No.6425034

    Rails existed in quantity for something like 400 years without steam engines, and they saw very limited use from the 6th century BC right up until the fall of the roman empire. Such rails were either made of wood or were simply grooves on the sides of roads.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:33 No.6425042
    I've always thought the only roman tactics related to numbers were the shittons of mercenaries from conquered lands and stardardized armor.

    The big advantage of these tree things is that they regenerate, and that they are likely to be xbox hueg.(why waste a sapling when it can become enormous?) We can also make their bark as hard as we damn want because magic.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:36 No.6425070
    I meant more in terms of composition; they're made of like, lightning and living metal and pseudoflesh.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:36 No.6425074

    Celtic replacements are quickly grown by druidic magicks. The Romans, on the other hand, have to resupply from the master smiths, and the majority of them are in and around Rome itself.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:38 No.6425084
    Wait, why do we care about rails? There's no benefit to using them. Mechs can walk.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:38 No.6425096
    An idea for the Chinese: since the earliest known cho ko nus ever built were made sometime during the 4th century BCE, I feel that it would be best that the Chinese, with their larger armies, field more ranged units over melee units.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:39 No.6425103
    I just wanted to say that I love you, /tg/.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:41 No.6425132

    Major Machina Dei construction plants are located in: Rome, Northern Gaul (captured by the Britons), Cairo, Byzantium, Ghana, a newly constructed one in Jaipur India, and a newly constructed one at Castra Regina (Regensburg).
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:42 No.6425137

    I really got nuttin' for the Chinese. The human units should be ranged, but you could use terra cotta warriors as pure fodder.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:43 No.6425140

    So far we were thinking more along the lines of rocket spam than repeating crossbows.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:43 No.6425142
    There is so much drawfag potential in this thread, it's going to kill me.

    Imagine a roman hired viking mercenary charging up to a treeman, spores and pine needles flying through the air to pick him him off before he can go Paul Bunyon all over his legs with a rune covered axe.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:43 No.6425144
    Um... be more accurate if the light blue was "Barbarians" rather than "Vikings/Rus", and the guys you call "Breton" are more specifically Celts.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:44 No.6425158
    Terracotta soldiers equip with repeating crossbows

    rockets would be more like Anti Armor for the Chinese
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:45 No.6425166
    A rune covered axe two stories tall at that!
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:46 No.6425173

    Briton/Celts have been used pretty interchangeably so far in the two threads.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:46 No.6425175
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    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:48 No.6425185

    Even better! Expendable troops AND rangespam. Zhuge Liang would be proud.

    Speaking of: who would be running China? You KNOW it has to be someone from the Three Kingdoms period. Sun Dynasty?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:49 No.6425191
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    >The Khan leading the Mongolians currently has a spirit-kin wife.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:50 No.6425204
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    >the Britons

    I can't hear you over my burning wicker mecha.

    >Caesar receives divine backing from Jupiter

    Actually he himself claimed that having Venus as his ancestress helped him a lot.
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    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:50 No.6425207

    >The Khan leading the Mongolians currently numerous spirit-kin wives.

    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:51 No.6425212
    >Actually he himself claimed that having Venus as his ancestress helped him a lot.

    I think all the major players of Rome claimed to have divine ancestry.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:52 No.6425222
    Possibly a bit late for this, but maybe ought to point out that the Mongols were about a thousand years later.

    The terrifying steppe warriors from the East at this time are the Huns. As in Attila.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:53 No.6425227
    I was kinda thinking humans = fodder, Terracotta elite troops

    The Chinese regarded Terracotta as guard army for the Emperor.

    All sides would have like these divided:
    Common units = fodders, something you see everyday like soldiers, home guard

    Uncommon units = elite units, you see them rarely, veterans of previous battle ; this is where Tertiary rank units go

    Rare units = seen but deployed mostly on harshest/deadliest battlefield most, this where Secondary rank units go

    Unique/I don't know what the hell to call units = means the situation is really fucked up if you see these babies walk the battlefield
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:53 No.6425231
    >Possibly a bit late for this, but maybe ought to point out that the Mongols were about a thousand years later.

    Yeah, it's been mentioned multiple times before. We decided that that they're getting their shit together significantly earlier.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:56 No.6425246
    >I was kinda thinking humans = fodder, Terracotta elite troops
    >The Chinese regarded Terracotta as guard army for the Emperor.

    The reason the terracotta soldiers are being used as fodder is because they're capable of being mass produced and sent out on the battlefield on a scale that literally isn't possible to do with real people.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)06:58 No.6425262

    Chinese didn't conceive gunpowder-based weapons until around 1000-1100 AD.

    I think the best thing for the Chinese would be the Terracotta warriors as spam troops, but they should also maintain Elite 'Mystic' Martial Arts warriors that utilize inhuman leaping, agility, and cognitive abilities that make them capable of wreaking havoc on the battlefield. They should also be capable of utilizing large hammer-type weapons like what Xu Zhu used as his personal weapons for destroying the Roman 'Mechs.
    >> Beardy McCelterson 10/25/09(Sun)07:00 No.6425276
    Another idea for the Celts, (considering that's what I like in history) could also have specialty assassin units that are either magically altered, (fuckhuge arms for a marksman/bow "sniper") or use potions and the like for other abilities (shadow melding assassins with leaves growing out of their skin for camouflage).
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:02 No.6425287
    >Chinese didn't conceive gunpowder-based weapons until around 1000-1100 AD.

    Yeah, and the Vikings and Mongols didn't show up for some time either.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:02 No.6425292

    Yeah, there's some serious timeline fuckery going on here. We're playing rather fast and loose.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:04 No.6425301
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    It seems you forgot a spot in Gaule that wasn't under the ruling of the roman oppressors.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:05 No.6425310
    although it would be costly fodder
    well the ancient world uses costly fodder anyways

    Elite Terracota should be made of Jade
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:06 No.6425322
    Jade Wagons have rockets anyway. I don't know if you've noticed, but we're not staying entirely true to history here.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:06 No.6425323
    My best guess is that because of "HOLY SHIT 100' TALL ROMAN MECHAS" people had to step up their game, and do so rather quickly. And using known historical figures adds to the already abundant epicness.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:08 No.6425335

    Not quite 100 feet, but yeah.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:09 No.6425343
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    Viking with his hammer.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:10 No.6425353
    we gotta include Sampo somehow
    It is too fitting to left out
    metal machine working with magic

    any ideas?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:10 No.6425354
    To make thing easier for the Chinese, the Empire was unified under the Heavenly Emperor, this in turn, the great wisdom of the Heavenly Emperor asked his men to find the substances to create gunpowder, they bring it to him and he develop gunpowder and gave his knowledge to the men so his Empire grows

    hmm should we rename the Mongols, Wild Men from the Steppes and the Vikings, Norsemen?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:11 No.6425361

    Sure, but you could still get it a bit closer. Attila the Hun fills the role of 'scary motherfucker coming out of the east to KILL KILL KILL' just as well as Genghis Khan. Not sure what equivalent you could get to the Vikings though; they're just stupidly cool.

    Is there any role for Hannibal? He invaded Italy with a horde of elephants. If we're amending history, let Carthage survive in North Africa. With even bigger elephants.
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    >they should also maintain Elite 'Mystic' Martial Arts warriors that utilize inhuman leaping, agility, and cognitive abilities that make them capable of wreaking havoc on the battlefield.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:12 No.6425369
    "Made by great finnish shamans brother, piece of finest metalwork, as long as you have sampo your team gians x money/d

    other teams can try to capture it?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:12 No.6425372

    Then if we're going to go so far off with that, the Chinese should get the Treasure Fleet ships some time around 500 CE and should be using some form of portable single-shot rockets, or even the basic cannon, out onto the battlefield.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:12 No.6425373
    No we haven't. Gauls are considered a mercenary faction, and they work pretty much exactly like Asterix and Obelisk.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:14 No.6425391
    >hmm should we rename the Mongols, Wild Men from the Steppes

    If we rename the Mongols we should give them a name that ties in with the whole edritch horror thing.

    >and the Vikings, Norsemen?

    If people want to.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:15 No.6425396
    okay better someone make a new thread it looks like we've gone beyond our limit
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:15 No.6425403
    >Treasure Fleet
    Of course. This isn't really a naval shindig though, the Treasure Fleet isn't all that important in the scheme of things.

    >hand cannons
    Nah. Not really thematically appropriate.
    >> Beardy McCelterson 10/25/09(Sun)07:16 No.6425408
    Archived this segment on sup /tg/.

    Go vote on it valian/tg/uardsmen.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:17 No.6425412
    I find it amusing to note that the first one still hasn't 4040'd.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:18 No.6425420
    What tags?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:18 No.6425426

    suptg server is down for some reason
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:19 No.6425431

    It's up now.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:19 No.6425435

    oh wait it is back now. thread is already archived
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:20 No.6425437

    Actually, the Treasure Fleets would allow us to include civilizations such as the Japanese and even some of the Western Civilizations in the game later on down the road. Since the Japanese haven't quite settled themselves yet and are currently under the rule of Queen Himiko.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:22 No.6425461

    If we include the Japs, I'd say that we put them under the Leadership of Rance (or someone similar). Sure, once again we're talking about more anachronism, but there's something very appealing about having a guy who declares war on other nations so he can rape their princesses.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:25 No.6425493

    I think the route we were originally going with the Japanese was similar to the Aztec / Native Americans - hands-off for the moment. They've got the kamikaze that keeps the islands safe but isolated. Izanagi-no-Mikoto could still be walking the home islands incarnate, and the various kami would be their mid and god-tier units.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:29 No.6425525
    Japan has casters that can summon the Divine Wind to rebuff invasions.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:33 No.6425553
    > rename the Mongols
    The HUNS dammit or Xiong-Nu as the Chinese called them.
    Modern Xinjiang (or East Turkestan) was originally Hun territory.
    The Great Wall was originally built to keep them out.
    I get this fantastic Barbarians at the Gates imagery in my head.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:41 No.6425608
    Wargame nation quirks

    Rome: Powerful mechs used to support foot soldiers. They get a big bonus so long as they stay in formation.

    Britons/Celts: Tend to use units similar to Romes, but their mech equivalents are less powerful and foot soldier equivalents are more powerful. Also their units tend to be cheaper all around.

    Christians: Very few highly durable units. Killed units have a chance to stand back up at half health. Can sacrifice units to summon angels/mechs.

    Chinese: Lots of massed infantry, as well as being capable of fielding powerful ranged units.

    Indians: War elephants are good at breaking enemy formations, but are prone to going out of control. Soldiers get a bonus when fighting near an avatar.

    Mongols: Heavy focus on mobility - all cavalry/eldritch horror army. Units tend not to be very predictable - can't use formations. Enemy units fear them.

    Norse: No access to mechs/mech equivalents, but have access to specialized mech killer infantry. Bear cavalry isn't very mobile, but is going at mauling things.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:42 No.6425619

    Yeah, but we've been calling them Mongols since forever, it'd feel weird changing to the Huns.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:45 No.6425635
    Where are the mongol's eldritch horror symbiotes coming from, exactly? Do they inhabit the steppes as well in this setting, or were they summoned from somewhere?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:47 No.6425646
    try to incorporate some sort of formation bonus into every faction - by that I don't mean every nation gains a bonus from being IN formation, but if played using their native tactics then they receive some bonus; the trick is allowing for innovative play while retaining this bonus.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:48 No.6425657

    They were summoned. Basically, a shaman got Cthulhu instead of the river spirit and they've ran with it ever since.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:48 No.6425659
    Since 22:46 board time. So about 9 hours.

    I do think Huns is probably more accurate to the idea, really.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:48 No.6425664

    "Barbarians at the gate" throws an image of the horrors crossing planes and entering ours in the steppe. they're transmaterial barbarians
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:49 No.6425671
    Riders of Doom or Riders of Apocalypse or just plain Riders for Huns/Mongols
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:51 No.6425682
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:51 No.6425683

    Flesh Riders?
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)07:52 No.6425694

    What's wrong with Mongols? Call a spade a spade!
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    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)08:01 No.6425768

    The Mongols / Huns are some hard-ass motherfuckers, so when the eldritch horror they'd poked said, "Sure, we'll give you incredible power so long as you let us nom some of your subjects and don't ask questions when we do fuckweird shit" they shrugged and went, "Why not?"


    Huns IS more accurate. I'm cool with either one. Either way, you get Attilla the Shoggoth or Genghis Kthulhu. And both are incredibly badass.

    Keep this going, folks. Time for me to head home from work. And additional writefaggotry will up the epic quotient.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)08:09 No.6425814
    >"Sure, we'll give you incredible power so long as you let us nom some of your subjects and don't ask questions when we do fuckweird shit"

    Well, they don't nom on the Mongols/Huns/Xiongnu themselves. They nom on the people who got conquered.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)08:14 No.6425854
    Attila sat down by the river. Bleda was playing at politics again. It irritated Attila, for Bleda was given to error in this arena. No matter; Attila had a greater purpose for this time. The river would bless the tribe. Attila knew little of shamanism, but he knew more than Bleda, and one of them had to do it. Attila tossed the strip of horseflesh into the river. He said the words that Rugila had taut him before his death. The river spirit would come. Then, on sudden impulse, Attila stood, and cut his wrist, letting blood fall into the river. Stupid. Why had he done that; that was the wrong thing to do. Then a blade arose from the water, curved and cruel. It was followed by a sinuous black tentacle with a single eye. The sword and tentacle writhed forward to Attila.
    "Augh," Attila stepped away from the thing. A mouth formed about its midsection.
    "Please.. your world burns me... Give me shelter in your form! I'll bring you power in battle like no other man.."
    The thing was like no river spirit, but victory in battle was what Attila had prayed for.
    "Very well."
    The thing slithered forward, and with great sped it leaped into the Hun's body. It was gone for a moment, and then the curved blade sprung outward from Attila's flesh, forming in his hand.
    Attila heard that voice once more in his mind,
    "I shall henceforth be... the Sword.... of Attila."

    That was centuries ago. Attila had more of the spirits within him now. All the warriors had at leas one. The sword remained at Attila's hand - what was left of it. The arm had lengthened, becoming whip-like. The hand no longer had fingers, but was fused to the blade. And yet, it was the most human part of the body. The Blade still talked to Attila, of course. It was his greatest companion. And Attila was the Greatest being. The Romans would fall before his might. Soon.
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)08:19 No.6425890
    Since we've hit the bump limit, new thread can be found here >>6425883
    >> Anonymous 10/25/09(Sun)08:52 No.6426096
    I have to get to bed.
    You faggots better archive that new thread as well, this shit's so cash.

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