>What is a pushmi-pullyu?Pushmi-pullyu (also known as a doubletaur) are a magical race of centauroids that consist of two centaurs (or centaur-like creatures in some cases) attached end-to-end.>What is this thread for?Statting them, worldbuilding for them, making art wnd writing of them, and general discussion and idea-throwing
>3 threadsPlease stop. This ruins any charm the meme had
>>63073587This'll be the last thread for a while, probably
>>63073544If they’re a magical fae race, do they have any natural abilities or weaknesses, like how the Celtic Fae were able transform people, but unable to even touch cold iron?
>>63073659Their weakness is the fact that they are prone to arguing with themselves
>>63073730But that’s a problem for anything with multiple heads.As a magical race, do they have any rules of the “if this happens, they must do that” variety?Like, what if they find evidence that their created passed through their area? Or somebody who knew them? Do they drop everything in pursuit of it, or just move on?
>>63073820>Pushmis will drop what they're doing at a clear sign of their Creator's passing>They just want to meet the archfey that made them so they could understand why they were made
So does one side get to eat and drink while the other just vomits shit and piss?
>>63074261Magic fey race, their waste just disappears
>>63074261It's an unending struggle between the two to determine who vomits out the shit and piss. As a result of this constant tug of war, the pushmi-pullyu have incredibly overdeveloped muscles all along their shared intestinal tract.
>>63074261There could just be a hole where they both join together, you know. Simple!
>>63074261STOP ASKING HOW THEY POOP
>>63075440>"Okay, but what if we cut two centaurs in half, then sewed them together so that they only have the front half?">'That's fucking weird, but sure. How's it gonna live, though?'>"What do you mean how's it gonna live? It's magic.">'What, you're telling me you want to install a permanent astral rift into this abomination just so it doesn't have to poop?'>"...Well, when you put it like that, yes. Yes, that is what I want to do.">'Yeah, alright. There's nothing good that can come of this, but alright. Telepooper it is.'
Though I really think we should have waited a few days before starting another thread, I'll see if I can find time to contribute, as the ideas in the last two were fun and amusing.
>>63075586There doesn't need to be any teleporting involved, maybe they just have cloaca like a normal centaur.
>>63075964…. Centaurs are not part bird or part reptile.
>>63075964As they are magically made creatures, they could just lose the waste products out of their skin, for all we know.
>>63073544God damnit, wasn't expecting this to start again until Sunday.Guess I'm going to have to rush to finish my writefaggotry.
>>63076487Or so you'd think.
How do y’all think their creator feels about the pushmi-pullyu’s? Are they like a passionate artist? A child who played with clay? Somebody who did the life-giving equivalent to doodling in the margins? A combination of all three, maybe?
>>63076487centaurs are closely related to lamias and lamias have cloaca, it's common sense stuff
>>63076649I'd personally wish that the reason is never revealed. That just one day the first Pushmi-Pullyu was born, fully formed, with all the knowledge of the world and of itself. But nothing of who or how it was made.And that absence is a hole in every one of their kinds heart.
>>63077028While I also feel the real reason should never be revealed, it would be interesting for them to get second-hand stories about what their creator was like, even if those stories conflict at times. It would help give a feeling of learning a lot while learning nothing.
>>63077028Pretty much this. They know that they were created and that they want to meet their creator but that's it.Also an alternative to the reincarnation idea, every once in a while a new fully formed pushmi just shows up somewhere. Gives them a reason to seek eachother out, trying to get a glimpse of their creator or ken a pattern to their actions.
>>63077380that's pretty good, actually
>>63077380That’s really good. We could even blend it with the reincarnation idea by having the one who appears have a similar skill to one who recently died, even if their personalities differ.
Greentext screencaps here
I'm assuming that >>63078401 connected to >>63078410and >>63078426
That's all I got.
Okay folks. I gots good news and I gots bad news.Good news: I've finished a greentext and it's a big one.Bad news: It's a big one. Bigger than anything I've contributed. We're looking at 6797 words here. If I post this I'm looking at around 17 separate posts. This is a monster.Should I post, or is 17 posts a bit obnoxious for a single greentext?
>>63079133Put it in a pastebin and link the bin here
>>63079153Okay. Just have to figure out how pastebin works.First time.
>>63079577Okay, so it actually wasn't that difficult. Cool.Here you are folks:https://pastebin.com/SRLjspmiJust so ya'll are aware, this is a continuation of >>63078485Now I think I'm going to build a character sheet for Barren-Bairn.
>>63079619Think you could do some writing for the cat rogues from last thread?
>>63079619Good shit my man
>>63079705I was planning on doing some more work with the Bards (>>63078464) and the Fighters (>>63078426). Maybe after I finish with them I can give the rogue a shot. Also, I thought another writefag was planning on doing something with them?>>63079859Thanks dude.
>Ralee-Rilee the Sneakthieves>Short Pushmi with a scraggly black cat lower half>Amazingly stealthy despite their back-and-forth banter>Quick to act but slow to get the numerous jokes and jabs their party makes>Napoleon complex, constantly tries to steal things to prove they're the bestHow do you think they met their party anyways?
>>63080052I'd imagine that their meeting was more the result of circumstance than anything else.>Guards run up to party."Have you folks seen a strange, two headed creature pass this way?">Party shrugs and feigns ignorance."No sir, can't say we have, but we'll keep our eyes open for such a frightening creature.""Thank you very much citizen.">Guards run off.>Party turns around."Okay they're gone.""Very sneaky Rilee.""Sneaky indeed Ralee."
Best place to get official campaign maps without labels? It's really fucking retarded that these do not come included.
Hey, there were other greentexts in the last thread. Anyone working on those?
I'm thinking the Barbarians are muscular as heck...also their lower body is a double ended bear.Course, the only time they don't argue is when they are both Raging.
>>63081277>Gano-Guno the BarBEARians
>>63081288Perfection.Also when it came to weapons for this duo I settled on them both dual wielding Axes. Because the idea of this Pushmi becoming an angery blender is amusing.
>>63079705>>63079890I was the one from last-thread thinking of writing for the Ralee-Rilee the Sneakthieves. I've got a few ideas that I'll try to work out through the day, along with continuing Hallu-Halla the Huntresses and Samira's story. I'd meant to keep writing yesterday but obligations and fatigue got the better of me.>>63080052>>63080171I can definitely imagine them meeting in such a way, with our rogues running into the party and convincing them to hide them from the guards that were chasing them down.
>>63077028>>63077380I'm a fan of these ideas myself.The Pushmi-Pullyu know that they are magical or fae in nature and that they were created, not born. They also know that they each have specific, innate talents and abilities that make them especially proficient at and enamored with certain callings.They wander the world searching for their lost histories and seeking out their creator, using the skills they've had since their creation to help people and make names for themselves in the hopes that they will draw their creator's attention and make them proud.
>>63079619That was a rousing tale, written by someone with more than a fair bit of talent. Thank you, very much, for sharing it with us.
>>63073544can't wait for the 4channel move, ban fur degenerates like you along with the /pol/tards so hiro can sell ad space. Glorious capitalism
>>63082955What's the reply I'm looking for.Ah yes...fuck off.
>>63082955Eh, we could move to /aco/.
Reported for furry fetish thread.All of you should kill yourselves.
>>63083044It's just an idiot, he'll get bored eventually.
>>63083008Wow, if you think any mix of human and animal traits means furry fetish, fairy tales and fables must break your mind like an anvil on a greenhouse.
>>63083204This implies that that the "Anvil, meet greenhouse." event hasn't already happened.
>>63075440I'm just picturing someone walking up to one of these things and asking them how they poop or if we can have sex with them...I just want to see a pushmi-pullu reply,,
>>63084655I mean, they got mouths, hands, and occasionally tits.
>>63073544So...... Yet ANOTHER incredibly thinly-veiled fetish Wankbait thread for mouthbreathing dickheads? Gotcha. Saging.
>>63084655>Barbarian Pushmi-PullyuKicks him in the face>Bard Pushmi-Pullyu"You have a question for me""Come to my side and sit.""You're wondering how exactly""A creature like me shits.""It's a tale that long and wondrous.""Concerning the highest powers.""It's a story that makes no sense.""And goes on for seven hours...">Wizard Pushmi-Pullyu"Ever take a shit, stand up, then feel like you need to take a shit again?"*winks*
>>63075440Stop making a purely nonsensical fap bait race with little thought put into it then you stupid shit.
>>63074320That's a retarded as all hell justification for this abomination
>>63084746>>63084815Y’all do realize that they can’t have sex either, right? So what exact fetish are your minds seeing here?
>>63084934Just because they can't fuck properly doesn't mean neckbeards aren't at full-chub over the mere concept of two "sexually repressed" tittybeasts. If you *can't* see this thread for what it is: a fetish thread, then you need to go the fuck outside and interactbwith society a little there, bud. It's plain as goddamn daylight that this thread is solely for getting neckbeards randy.
>>63085027Forgot the VERY related pic
>>63082528>>63079705>Ralee-Rilee huddled as close together as their shared body would allow, hands pressed against each other's mouths, struggling to remain silently hidden behind one of the slim, decorative columns in the corners of the grand guestchamber as a pair of guards burst into the room.>"He's not here either! Damn it all!">Said one, tromping his boot on the polished marble floor hard enough to leave a scuffmark that his companion punched him in the arm for, giving the other man a hard but worried look before he scanned the room again, searching for any sign of the intuder they'd been alerted to.>"Easy, Boddy! We can't lose the thief AND wreck the place!">Tightening his grip on his short sword, the man nodded but seethed all the same, frustration from their fruitless investigation showing plainly on his face as he likewise studied the scene taking a step or two further inside to cast his searching gaze around the seemingly empty room.>"Yeah, yeah! I just don't know how it is we haven't seen the rat-bastard! Not even a damned Halfling could've stayed vanished this long!">Wedged into their hiding place, Ralee-Rilee shared a paniced, wide-eyed look as they heard the lumbering footsteps of the irritated guards move even closer, the two men standing in the middle of the room, dumbfounded as an explosion and shouts sounded from the manor-yard.>"THE GATE HAS BEEN BURST!">"THE THIEF IS MAKING HIS ESCAPE!">"CATCH THE THIEF!">Cursing nearly as loudly as the commotion outside, the pair of guards turned and dashed for the door, scrambling down the hall and taiking the stairs two at a time to join their fellows in pursuit of the daring rogue that had stolen from their master and blown his gate wide open.
>>63085178>After listening in tense silence for a moment, Ralee-Rilee pulled their hands free of eachother's mouths and heaved two sighs of relief as they slipped out from behind their pillar, stretching their shared back while taking a moment to check that they still had what they'd come for.>"I think they're distracted, Rilee.">"Indeed they are Ralee, very distracted I think.">"It's a good thing they were looking for someone larger, isn't it Rilee.">"Yes indeed Ralee, a very good thing they were looking for someone larger.">"But it is also a good thing our friends were ready with 'Plan B' when we needed it.">"A very good thing that 'Plan B' was ready, though our friends will never let us forget we needed it.">The two heaved another pair of sighs as the odd cat-bodied Pushmi padded over to the doorway, Ralee looking out to check that the coast was clear while Rilee made sure that the thick stack of stolen documents was stuffed safely into the pouches they wore about their middle.>"I figure that we have about five minutes till the guards come back, Ralee.">"I agree, Rilee. Five minutes till the guards come back, enough time to reach the old well in the basement.">"Enouh time to reach the old well and crawl away through the dry aquaduct beneath the city.">"It's a good thing they were expecting someone larger, isn't it Rilee.">"Yes indeed Ralee, a very good thing they were expecting someone larger.">Feeling sure of their cargo and their way forward, the strange, mangy little thing slipped from the guestchamber and padded quietly down the hall, bound for the servants' quarters and their stairway leading to the basement, the old well,the dry aquaduct and their friends.>"We really are the sneakest of rogues, aren't we Ralee.">"We are indeed Rilee, the very sneakiest of rogues.">They looked to each other and nodded in agreement, each beginning to hum to herself as they made good their escape.
>>63085014I don't know. I can see your point, given where we are and how often we fa/tg/uys seem to turn everything into a fetish, but most of the posters in the last thread didn't seem to be suggesting anything remotely sexual in the writing and brainstorming that have been done. I, for one, am just interested in a strange and fantastical creatures and the stories that spring up around them. If that excites and titillates some people then that's that, but it's certainly not all of us and certainly not the sole purpose of this thread.
>>63085014So far we’ve got beings devoted to a cause, a non-human way of thinking, a mysterious creation myth, and suitably interesting personalities. If you feel that’s weird, you haven’t been in society much.If you think it’s weird that people like anthropomorphized non-humans, you should know that humans falling in love with non-humans is in every single human culture ever. In other words, normal.Unless the idea of a hominid having fur sends you into an insane fit like you looked upon Cthulhu, there’s nothing weird about this thread.
Alright.Using>>63078387 I've gone and made a character sheet for Barren-Bairn from>>63078485 and >>63079619Hope I got the math right on this one. Actually has turned out to be not a bad character. Actually has made me want to try giving Barbarian a shot next time I get to play.(Note: I did not use point buy; went with roll 4 drop low. Got some crap rolls, but went with it anyway.)Name: Barren-BairnAlignment: NGClass/Level: Barbarian 5Race: Pushmi-PullyuSize: LargeStr: 17Dex: 11Con: 16Int: 8Wis: 14Cha: 13Ac: 20Touch: 9Flatfooted: 20Hp: 38Fort: +6 Reflex: +1 Will: +2CMD: 18Initiative: 0BAB: +5CMB: +8Base Speed: 50In Armour: 20Gear: Full Plate, 2X Handaxes, 1X GreataxeRacial Features: Low light vision, Quadruped, Undersized Weapons, Two Heads, Butting HeadsClass Features: Rage (6/day), Fast movement, Rage Power: No Escape, Rage Power: Unexpected Strike, Uncanny Dodge, Trap Sense +1, Improved Uncanny DodgeFeats: Mounted Combat, Rideby Attack, Run
>>63085046It's not their fault english lacks a plural only second person pronoun
>>63085187How do you pronounce their name anyway? Rally-Riley? Rahlee-Rihlee? Raylee-Relly?
>>63073544>Pushmi-PullyuOh yeah, says who?
>>63085531Rally-RillyRilly like really but not really
>>63085605>>63085531When I'd written it I was thinking "Rally-Riley," but "Rally-Rilly" sounds better.>>63085375Nice work.
I think that the part I’mmost interested in, given what’s been talked about and written so far, is that Pushmi-Pullyus are a race of unique individuals united in a search for meaning and for their creator. Most races in fantasy have their patron deities, their families and their livelihoods, but the Pushmi-Pullyus seem very much like wayward orphans trying to find their way, and that’s really interesting to me.
>>63087503It also leads to the inevitable question of what they would do when confronted with their creator? Or even what the creator would do?The search for meaning is all well and good, but then when the meaning has been discovered, it leaves the question of what next?Do they bend the knee and try to reconcile with their creator? Would they find their creator wanting and attempt to kill them (a bit of a Freudian twist)? In relation to some of the fiction, is the creator the forgiving kind, willing to adopt and embrace? Or are they indifferent, just as likely to destroy or ignore the Pushmi-Pullyu than anything else?I'd like to think that the Pushmi-Pullyu would be likely to ignore such questions, as doing so would undermine their "purpose". They seem to be such personable creatures that tearing that away from them would create a rather unique sense of isolation in a great uncaring universe. The Pushmi-Pullyu is a beast that is never alone by itself, but is itself alone among anyone else.
>>63087503They're looking for their creator and looking to put their talents to use in a way that would make their creator proud of them. They're also looking for each other, and I'm eagerly awaiting the writer who said that he's thinking of a piece that finally has a couple Pushmi meet.
>>63087677>The Pushmi-Pullyu is a beast that is never alone by itself, but is itself alone among anyone else.That's a pretty good way to define Pushmi-Pullyu on the whole, I think. As long as they live, they have each other and that is enough.Perhaps it's the use of their talents in the service of others, then, that is their primary "purpose." The search for their creator, or for someone or something to act as a substitute for their creator, becomes almost an after-thought or a subconscious desire. They know that whoever or whatever made them is out there, somewhere, and that they will find them someday, but until that day comes they will continue wandering and plying their skills.
>>63087947That idea actually plays really well with what happens in >>63079619I dig it.
>>63087723You're probably going to have to wait another day or two for that one. I've got a couple of other things on the go right now, but I'm trying to fit a bit more writing in where I can.
>>63088293What you've been writing has been worth the wait, so please don't let us rush you.>>63088275From everything that's been written so far, it has seemed that Pushmi-Pullyu are incredibly unique and individualistic (dualistic?) creatures that identify first and foremost with each other, then with their profession, and finally with others of their species.
>>63088464Could be that most have never even met another of their kind.
I'll steal a Snowclone for a Pushmi.>Lay Siege to the population of a city who does not share your beliefs!>Butcher any who leave because your God demands it!>Hussir-Hussar the Paladins shows up!>...HUSSIR-HUSSAR THE PALADINS SHOWS UP!?Yeah, these two are both Oath of Vengance Paladins who are guided to find those who commit atrocities in the name of a God that never asked for it..and then smash that extremist nutjobs face in.
>>63088549> find those who commit atrocities in the name of a God that never asked for itDear sweet lord of darkness and evil, every game needs one of these.
>>63088611>"Hey, uh, Hussir-Hussar?""MY LORD""WHAT DO YOU WISH FROM US">"Look, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but-""WHAT DO YOU DESIRE FROM US""WHAT SHALL WE DO FOR YOU">"...Y'know what, uh...">"There's some evil cult doing some stuff up north, why don't you deal with them?""YES MY LORD""ANYTHING FOR YOU MY LORD""WE ARE OFF""WE LEAVE""TO SLAY THE EVIL""TO PROTECT THE GOOD""HUSSIR""HUSSAR""WE RIDE""TOGETHER"
>>63088549>Snowclone...say what?Are you willing to venture forth into the real of the arctic warlocks in order to steal one of their chilly doppelgangers?
>>63088871>Attaru-Attari the Arctic Warlocks>They create clones of themselves out of snow so nobody can stop their evil scheme of finding their creator
>>63088843And as they ride forth:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X9LvC9WkkQ
>>63088900Totally whipping this song out at the table with my next character.
>>63088843I like the idea that they're righteous and good,but SO GUNG-HO that they're difficult to handle.>>63088889>Attaru-Attari the Winter Witches>Tan-skinned, white -haired women with the body of a white-furred caribou>Quiet by even human standards, they seem to commune with each other through knowing looks.>Theirs is the power of snow and ice of all sorts.
>>63088871You've seen the Gru Presentation Meme that exploded everywhere for some reason, right?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z6qmmMuGuwThis was a copy of that...doesn't work perfectly as a greentext though.>>63088889Their Lower Body is a two seal front ends. You will not change my stance on this.
>>63088974>Their Lower Body is a two seal front ends.Can't say that would have been my choice, but it is a hilarious image.
>>63088995I just went with it because at the time I forgot caribou existed and were therefore an option.
>>63088974As cute as that sounds, Caribou like >>63088953 said sounds better
>>63088974>seal front endsAnd thusly the witches of the north were clubbed to death by a group of fishermen with strange accents, who would go on to harvest their succulent blubber and flipper meat.
>>63089025Only for it to turn out this was a snowclone and the real, caribou legged, witches promptly turned the men into popsicles.
>>63088953>The other Pushmi-Pullyu think they're spooky.>Not because of their powers of because they're mean.>Just because they're so darn quiet all the time.
>>63089025>>63089063>Hunters try to track down the Winter Witches>Think they found and killed her>They're chopping her up for food>It isn't human after all, right?>One takes a bite>Cold>Ice cold>They suddenly realize they've been harvesting snow>A blast, and deadly shards of ice cut through the would-be hunters>Attaru-Attari look at their corpses and leave>Another failed hunt>Another feast for the wolves
>>63089154>Long ago the Winter Witches lived amongst the people of the region, working their magics to help them survive the cold winters.>That is, until one year when a terrible blizzard that was beyond even their abilities to control blew through, leaving many dead.>Many people blamed the Winter Witches, and they took their leave of civilization, retiring to a solitary life up in the mountains.>While children that get lost in the mountains tell stories of receiving their aid, hunters that go after them are never seen again.
>>63089309"Please, heroes! Save us from this vile witch!">>63088843"OF COURSE""TIS OUR DUTY""INTO THE SNOW""AGAINST THE WIND""WE RIDE""TOGETHER!"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X9LvC9WkkQ
>>63089689That would actually be interesting. Most we’ve done in the forms of interaction is say that Pushmi-Pullyu’s can sense when another is near and seek them out to see what the creator has done.
>>63090003I'm not sure that they should be able to sense each other, but I remember someone mentioned the possibility that the fates might conspire to bring them together. Regardless, it would be really interesting to see them interact.
>>63090045I think they should sense each other, but less “there’s another Pushmi-Pullyu nearby!” And more “there’s something important here. I don’t know what, but there’s something.”
>>63090266Fae intuition, so to speak. I could get being something like that.
>>63090266I'd imagine that such a thing would only come into play if they were extremely close to one another, presenting itself similar to that niggling sense you sometimes have that you may have forgotten something important but can't quite recall what it was.
>>63085178>>63085187Nice going man.
>>63088549Dude, make the character sheet.
>>63090860Thank you. I'm thinking of trying to write a more comedic group scene for them and the rest of their party. Any suggestions?Also, I think I'd like to continue the story of Hallu-Halla and Samira.
>>63091186>Monk who can punch things with explosive force>Sorceror whose plans usually devolve into "burn it">Druid healer who, despite his low intellect, says some profoundly deep things at inopportune moments>Ranger, only other female in the group, first to tease and joke about Ralee-Rilee
>>63091264They could work. I'll see what I can do with them.
>Aaron-Orin the beruocrat."Sir, these are the wrong forms.""You need to be in his line, not mine.""That will be twelve silver for the processing fee.""Please return tomorrow at five precisely.""If you don't calm down I'll call the guard.""This line is currently closed, I'm on break."A beast ideally suited for managing an office, yet only makes things even more confusing and slow.
>>63092336That's a pretty fantastic idea.
>>63092336Just like every officer worker I've ever met.
>>63092336Good. Just add one more thing:As slow and confusing as they can be, there is never a single error on any of the paperwork they work on.
Between the full-fledged written pieces and the little one-off profiles, we've built up quite a stable of characters now.
>>63093013>we've built up quite a stable of characters now.>a stable of charactersI see what you did there
>>63093013Not sure how many can be used as proper npcs or throw away novelties, but it is a healthy number.
>>63093306I'd still be interested to see someone or a pair of someones try to pull a Pushmi-Pullyu PC off, if I'm honest.
>>63093389>Play in an actual gameTHERE'S the challenge.
What I think would be interesting is a story where one of these things dies, or is found dying by a group who are afraid to do anything because they don't know what they're looking at.A bit morbid, I know. I just think it would be interesting.
>>63093306Most have been good thought experiments and fun write-ups. What di you think would make for a good Pushmi NPC?
This all just sounds like the beginning of some weeaboo's degenerate furry bdsm human-centipede fantasy.
>>63093943Morbid, but certainly not something out of line with a more serious game.
>>63093943>The creature expires, and the PCs find on its persons a series of notes and letters, offering them a series of quests.>The PCs must decide whether they should leave things be or complete the strange creature’s unfinished business.
>>63093984I'd imagine that it would be interesting to have a wizard/sorcerer/warlock send a party after one so that they could perform a rather elaborate ritual. The players would only receive the most basic description of the creature:-body of a beast-two heads-quickThe party would then go hunting the "two-headed beast" only the have it elude them. During the hunt the party will encounter various traps and situations and blame it on the creature they're hunting. Not once will the party get a clear glimpse of the creature. Maybe they even run into several other groups hunting the creature and will either be put into competition with them or need to defeat in combat. They'll also discover that the traps they encountered were set by these other hunters.Eventually the party would encounter the "beast", find out it's a Pushmi-Pullyu, and discover that it's quite friendly to boot. It will then be left up to them to either bring the Pushmi-Pullyu back to their employer, return to the employer empty handed, or kill their employer for being an evil prick.It's a basic plot, but it'd be a start at least.
>>63093984Have them run into one as a travelling adventurer. Make it a recurring character, always friendly, showing interest in the party's adventures and antics, maybe has the odd rare/magical item that they might be willing to trade, gives rumours of possible quests or stories that they have heard. Have him pop up every four to six sessions.
>>63094096You say the plot is basic, but sometimes the basics work the best and for good reason. That sounds like a fun adventure and could end a few ways, like you suggest, and could open the door to more adventures with the Pushmi-Pullyu.
>>63094172I like the idea that this Pushmi-Pullyu is having their own adventures in parallel to the PCs, and that ocassionally their journeys intersect when they have odd items to trade, interesting stories to tell or need each other’s help.
>>63094172>>63094238It seems that a Pushmi-Pullyu NPC is a tool for GMs who like to writing out stories and adventures, but their players enjoy going off and doing their own thing.Session of players going on their adventure ends. GM has the time until the next session to imagine or even run the Pushmi-Pullyu through an adventure of its own. Good story to share for the next session.
>>63094302Puts me in mind of treating the Pushmi-Pullyu encounters like comedic interludes or “mini-games” between the more serious and intensive seasons of the main story.
>>63094302>>63094368>"You guys were already there? Geeze. Sucks to be you.">"What do you mean you didn't find the secret chamber?">"We better not tell you how much it was worth."Fast way to piss off your players.
>>63094238>party walks into shady tavern.>stroll yo to the bar.>guys in the corner having heated conversation.>look over.>fucking Pushmi-Pullyu
>>63095426>Ullar-Ullyr the Philosophers>They have vastly opposing philosophies>People pay to hear from one or the other>People pay even more to watch them debate each other
I was almost thinking of introducing a Pushmi-Pullyu as a guard in a kind of "through the looking glass" kind of labyrinth to put my players through. I was thinking originally of going with the old "one head always lies, the other always tells the truth" but instead of having the players ask about doors they could ask it anything about the labyrinth itself. I would also limit the players to only being allowed to ask 3-4 questions before being attacked by the pushmi-pullyu guard.
>>63096471>"one head always lies, the other always tells the truth"This runs the risk of a memelord player asking "Are you my [Preffered Enemy] and then attacking the Pushmi because the Liar said yes.
>>63094715That's why the key is making the Pushmi-Pullyu's adventures separate and parallel. The players aren't following behind the Pushmi, but find that their paths cross occasionally. Or, to put a new spin on your example:>"Well met, friends!">"How fortunate that we've met again!">"How fortunate! We have a job you may be interested in!">"You may be interested in this job we have for you!">"We were clearing out a small dungeon of monsters, when we found a hidden chamber!">"This hidden chamber we found possessed a creature of terrible power!">"A creature of terrible power resides in this chamber!">"Too powerful for us!">"Far too powerful for us!">"Would you be interested in helping?">"If you helped, the loot it guards will be yours!"In this example, the Pushmi is offering the PCs a single "optional boss battle" on their way toward their real goal.
>>63096471That would work out.
>>63098159Right. A strange and fun encounter.
>>63098159>The Pushmi needs the PCs’ help and offers a generous reward for their aid.>The Pushmi has acquired several useful trinkets that they gift to the PCs.>The Pushmi has remembered the PCs’ quest and relays some overheard info.>The Pushmi is headed back and will deliver letters to the PCs’ families.
There are probably scholars of the arcane and the fey who have taken an interest in the Pushmi-Pullyu and who have been collecting stories of their appearances, recordings lists of known Pushmi names and titles and who have been trying to figure them out for decades.
>>63100116There are a lot of questions regarding this race, like how long they live, for instance. Some of the pieces that have been written seem to suggest that they can get very old indeed, and that they do not seem to age in the same way that most races do.
>>63100967They're probably "born" already fully formed and age extremely slowly.
>>63101028That makes sense, as they’ve been created and not born. I’d imagine that they range in apprarance from early to late adulthood, and age slowly like you say. There are a lot of aspects to the Pushmi that indicate that they are a collection of unique and custom-made creatures and not an actual race of creatures.
>>63101203>a collection of unique and custom-made creatures and not an actual race of creatures.Huh, never really thought of them like that
>>63101358It’s one of those interesting things that isn’t thought of immediately, but that becomes apparent on closer study.>They have two heads, each possessing its own mind and it’s own personality, which sometimes cause disagreement.>They produce no waste and cannot reproduce, as they possess neither the need nor the necessary organs to do so.>They are not born, but seem to have simply appeared in the world fully-formed possessing names and an inborn set of talents.>Their non-humanoid lower bodies are most often equine in form, but may be sometimes be reminiscent of other animals.If an arcane scholar studied them, they’d see that they can be a race in the traditional, scientific sense, but are a collection of unique, purpose-made creations.The Pushmi-Pullyu are like a large set of fine ornamental cutlery. They all look uniquely similar and are clearly part of a set, but they all have their individual uses and can’t exactly producemore of themselves.
>>63101580CAN’T be a race in the traditional sense, rather.
>>63101580You forgot “full of exotic and impossible spell components?”
>>63101580Dang, that's apt.
>>63102025I rather like it, even if I am saying so myself. It implies that the Pushmi are both the tools and the fancies of their creator, a matched-mismatched set of ostentatious oddities that have been sent out into the world to do the unknown will of a master they’ve never met.
>>63102455Heirloom sets of cutlery also end up getting scattered and lost too.
>>63102570Now just getting the image of some bored fae lord, lounging about in his mansion, surrounded by Pushmi-pullyu servants of all stripes.Then he just says "Fuck it" and casts them out.
>>63102717It’s fitting for a Fae Lord, isn’t it? Create something wondrous and nonsensical and then discard it when it no longer amuses him.
>”We meant little to our master.”>”To our master we meant little, and now we mean nothing at all.”>”They cared for us like one of your lords cares for a particularly fine set of cutlery.”>”A particularly fine set of cutlery that served them well.”>”That serves them well, yes, but that didn’t match the new set of dinnerware they fancied.”>”That didn’t match at all.”>”So out we went.”>”We had to leave.”>”We didn’t match.”>”We weren’t right.”>”So now we’re here.”>”So here we are.”>”Most is our brothers and sisters don’t remember.”>”Most of our brothers and sisters don’t want to remember .”>”But we remember.”>”Yes, we remember.”>”And we want nothing more to do with our creator.”>”We cast our our creator as they cast us out.”>”Good riddance.”>”Good riddance.”
>>63103131That would be a good reaction for them to have if they ever actually find out the reasonings behind their creation. Otherwise they are largely ignorant of why they were made.
>>63103247I also prefer their origins to remain as much a mystery to themselves as they are to the rest of the world. No one, least of all the Pushmi-Pullyu, know where they come from, but “abandoned servants of a fae lord” is a theory that would seem to connect all the dots.
>>63103928I prefer the idea that they were creations of convenience; that they were made as they were needed and were discarded once the job was done.I'm not a big fan of the idea that all of a sudden, hundreds of pushmi-pullyus suddenly appeared in the world.
I still have plans for writing something comedic for our sneakthieves and a continuation for our huntresses, so I’ll bump the thread in the interest of keeping things going.
>>63105037I'm also working on something.
>>63104996That’s a workable scenario too, though even if hundreds of Pushmi-Pullyu were suddenly released into the world, I don’t think they’d all just appear in the same place. Another possibility is that they are fulfilling their purpose presently just by wandering the world and using their skills, and that their creator is watching with interest and amusement at the adventures they have.I think it’s probably best and most fun that they retain something of “multiple choice past,” and that despite the many stories told about their origins no one can quite decide which one if any is true.
>>63105135Good to hear! I’ll look forward to it!
>>63105135>>63105037Good to see more writing on the way.
>>63104996I see them as being more creations of novelty instead of convenience. In fact, seeing how the Pushmi-Pullyu’s are exceptionally skilled at at single task, they might simply be a template for those skills to be put in with their shape just being the style their creator prefers.Also, I think it would work better if they have just been randomly appearing one at a time, with the hundred-two hundred population in the world is just what their appearance to death rate has averaged out to.
>>63105298So you reckon that they’re still being made and are still appearing?Also, the “form versus function” debate is interesting.
>>63105298>they might simply be a template for those skills to be put in with their shape just being the style their creator prefers.This doesn't explain why the Assassins are, in essence, a double ended Drider.
>>63105504Yeah, I do believe they are still being made, but at a relatively slow rate. Like, one showing up in the world every 5-10 years or so.A lot of the history we’ve given them suggests that their kind has been around for a while. So long that even they don’t agree on their origin. Warring tribes forced to make peace? An experiment by a crazed wizard? The artistic creations of a Fae sent into the world? Maybe it even varies from Pushmi to Pushmi.All that they’re certain of when they come into this world are their names and what they are skilled at.
>>63105963I remember the tale that the Storytellers told, and have to wonder if it’s just one of many that they’ve collected in their repertoire over the years.
>>63105962You actually just hit on why there is no good single answer for why they are the way they are. Why do most have equine hooves and some don’t? How is it that they can appear anywhere in the world? Is their an inherent logic, or just is it just random?It would be up to the players and DM’s to give a definite answer if they wanted just one.
>>63105926>>63106175Mistyped. Meant for you.
>>63105963>Like, one showing up in the world every 5-10 years or so.Though I don’t think the Pushmi keep in close contact with one another, news of new one showing up would be a pretty big deal among them, I’d think.
>>63106245Maybe some of them actually show up in places that aren't that well travelled?Like sprawling expanses of only slightly hospitable land...or the Underdark.'Course the Pushmis can handle being there just fine, but that's just how they do their thing.
>>63073544Please don’t create the next chakats /tg/
>>63106675Oh my god your right!Pushmis can hold twice as many hands as everyone else!WE'VE CREATED A RACE OF PERVERTS!
>>63106675Chakats? What are Chakats?*one quick google later*Those are just feline centaurs! And they don’t even have anywhere near the interesting history we’ve given the Pushmi-Pullyu!
>>63106921they're also hermaphroditic psychic mary sues that were shoved into the star trek universe.
>>63106675>>63106740Fucking hell. BURY IT! FORGET ABOUT IT! YOU'VE DOOMED US!
>>63106939>Hermaphroditic>Star TrekNow I see your problem.
>>63106524I can see them appearing just about anywhere. What I’m curious about is how they seat about applying the skills they’re born with. The ones who use magic or are drawn to a cause wizards, warriors, and theivery is obvious. But what about the one who is a shepherd and the one who is a blacksmith. Do they just grab the nearest piece of iron and start smelting, or hang around a herd of sheep?
>>63107503Maybe it's more of a case where during their wanderings they encounter something that piques their interest strongly, they then hang around and insert themselves gradually into the activity.
>>63107503Personally, I’ve been thinking that push me-pull you come into the world knowing their names, understanding a craft and believing that others like them exist. They wander the world using and improving their talents to try and help other people and to try and help them find more of their kind.
>>63108461That sounds in line with the characterization we’ve given them. Though, some of them would have a harder time putting their skills to use in finding more of their kind and creator than others would.The Shepherd one might be able to herd their sheep over vast distances, and would struggle to make their wool so special that it attracts the attention of Fae.
>>63109208Who knows what might catch the attention of their erstwhile creator? If they were created with a specific talent inside them, the best way to be themselves and show their worth would be to be the best at their craft.
For all we know, the skills and talents that these beasts have been blessed with may not so much be the purpose of their existence, but something that has given them purpose in the absence of someone to give them purpose.
>>63109316That would be a rather effective way to separate them into two lines of thinking. One group would join up with adventurers and seek out others of their kind, while others would stick to perfecting their craft so that they may become noticed.
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>>63109929That’s true. It could very well be that they weren’t granted their talents specifically, but that their fae natures simply allow them to become extremely proficient in whatever they decide to be their reason for being.>>63109932The two ideas might not be mutually exclusive though.
>>63109932One of the things we’ve not yet explored in great depth is what Pushmi-Pullyu think of each other and how they interact with each other.
>>63109966Seeing how we’re still here, we’re enjoying it quite a lot!Also, if you really wanted to enjoy the seething rage found upon the internet, you need to make sure the thread is at its height of interest before destroying it all.
>>63110242We’ve talked about the idea that they know of each other, their names, titles and appearances, even if they’ve never met before. I can see them acting like long-lost relatives that have not seen each other in a very long time, asking after mutual acquaintances, catching up on how they’ve been doing and what they’ve seen, speaking with familiarity and warmth.
>>That level of inherent knowledge might be a bit too much. Their names and skills shouldn’t be automatically known. They can already kinda feel when another is nearby and the fact there’s nothing else built like a Pushmi-Pullyu negates any need for extra recognition.Though your suggestion of them treating each other as long-lost relatives is rather good. They’d have an air of familiarity despite not knowing who exactly they are.
>>63110928You may be right, in that such intimate knowledge of each other without having met might be too much, but I do like the idea that there is a definite kinship there between them. They’re all a strange sort of family.
>Bende-Bunde the shepherd stood watch as their sheep grazed at the edge of the woods.“Still no wolves. That is good”“Is good there’s no wolves. Our wool grows long and soft.”“Long wool means we must shear soon.”“Shear our sheep and shear ourselves”“Yes, we m-”>the pair tense and clench their staff and slingshot.“I sense something Bende”“I too Bunde. From the woods”“Might be threat. Might be friend.”“Friend or threat, we protect our sheep”“Let us see”“Let us see”>wanders closer to woods>the feeling moves“It is close”“Very close”>they step into the brush>there is a shape moving toward them.>two bodies joined to one.“See that Bende?”“I see that Bunde.”“It is them!”“They are us!“Pushmi!”“Pullyu!”“Hail friend!”“Friend, Hail!”“We seek the Creator!”“For the Creator shall seek us!”
>>63111615Thank you for that! I can imagine them spending an afternoon deep in conversation together on a sunlit hillside surrounded by sheep, exchanging stories of their adventures and tales of their kin before both need to move along again.I feel like it's very rare that any but the most traveled Pushmi-Pullyu meet each other more than once.
>>63111754I want them to meet Hallu-Halla the Huntress.A wolf and a Ram talking to each other would be fun.Now I just need to figure out how to structure their conversation so that it doesn’t become completely confusing. Four voices split into two characters isn’t easy to convey through writing.Might need to sleep on it.
>>63111904That would be an interesting interaction. Hallu, being the calmer and more thoughtful of the pair, might get along well with Bende-Bunde, while Halla remains a bit irked by their lackadaisical pastoral natures.
Despite how different the Pushmi-Pullyu are, you can tell they they’re family. With some minor annoyances or differences of opinion aside, they all seem to get along well together and enjoy each other’s company.A thought: If the two halves of a Pushmi-Pullyu act as siblings, then they would probably treat other pairs like one might their cousins.
Friggen god, it's happening again.I'm writing something and it's gotten out of control. I'm currently over 4000 words and I'm only about half-way through.I'm hoping to post tonight, but don't be surprised if I wind up posting a pastebin link tomorrow.These threads are killing me. I've done more writing in 2018 than I've done in the seven years since I've graduated university. Fucking hell.
>>63112581I'm glad we've inspired you to write so much
>>63112620Don't go saying that until you've read what I've produced. No point in saying "thank you" for a sandwich you didn't like and fries that were soggy.
>>63112968What if the fries were served by a two-headed goat centaur?
>>63113442I have no tolerance for soggy fries.
>>63113981This. Doesn't matter how cute you are, soggy fries are soggy fries
Okay. I've done it again.It's a quarter past 1 am where I'm at, and I've finally finished the story. It's longer than my last entry by far: 8445 words. This is definitely going into a pastebin.I'll tell you folks what: If someone responds to this post within five minutes, I'll post the link to the pastebin. If not, then ya'll will have to wait until a more reasonable time tomorrow.It's up to you. I'm damn tired.
>>63115393And sliding in just in time... WE HAVE A WINRAR!
>>63115393>>63115405I will say that I've been writing tired, so there will be spelling and grammatical errors.I also think that this story starts off a bit weak, but it does pick up. There's some things in here that I'm quite happy about.Hope ya'll enjoy.
>>63115416I'm going to sleep now.Good night.
>>63115427Where is the link.?
>>63115427fffffffuuuuuukkkkk. Thank god I was searching youtube for a song to fall asleep to.https://pastebin.com/LTyKz7Hf
>>63115537That was actually quite good. I love how well you are able to get the heads to interact so naturally.
>>63115537I really love how you left what the Pushmi-Pullyu’s discussed up to our imaginations. An explorer and traveling storyteller would have a lot more to say than a Huntress and a Shepherd.It makes me think.
>>63115537Once again, you've done us a great treat by sharing your writing. Your back and forth dialogue between Torae and Tori, Writ and Wrote, and the two pairs together is as well thought out and entertaining as ever, and you really sold the idea of Pushmi-Pullyu meeting for the first time and realizing that there are more of their kind out there. The way you described their almost ritualistic interactions and the way you didn't reveal the specifics of their conversation helped maintain that slight air of fae mystery around the creatures too.Ivor is a well-written and relatable as he always has been, and I liked his realization that he would now be included in the Storytellers' tales. Also, the character of Leiwf'wa was a great surprise. The poignancy of her story, and how much these strange Pushmi mean to her after so many centuries was unexpected and very interesting, and it was fun to see so ancient an elf lose her mind with glee over finally getting to meet these fairytale creatures. Perhaps it's wishful thinking, but I can imagine her joining Ivor and Torae-Tori as party wizard despite her age, so as to be able to meet more Pushmi and get to the bottom of the tale.Thanks again for all your hard work!
>>63116641>>63116873>>63116978Thanks you very much dudes.This is going to be the last story from me for a few days. I've got to let myself recharge here; can't keep staying up until 2 am to finish off stories. I still have 2 ideas for stories, but those will have to wait until later.
>>63117765You shouldn’t keep pushing yourself. Take a break, for sure!
>>63117765Definitely give yourself a bit of a rest before working on anything else. Though I must say I am curious what your other two ideas are.
>>63111615>Bende-Bunde eagerly stared at the figure.>It was in shadow. Hiding, but it was there.>They heard it speak.“They see us. They know we are here.”“We were too eager. Got to close to their animals.”“They gave us greetings. They might mean no harm.””The most colorful plants can hold the most deadly poison.”“It is familiar.””It is unknown.”“We must be cautious.”“Yes, we must.”>They slowly stepped into the light.>Bende-Bunde finally got a good look at them and became defensive once more.“You a wolf. You have a bow and arrows.”“We do not like wolves. They hurt the sheep.”“If you are here to hurt the sheep, we will fight you.”“We will fight you, we will kill you.”>These four beings, this single pair, stepped out of the underbrush and began to circle each other.>They gauged their opposite with both critique and curiosity.“They believe they can take us in a fight without knowing what we can do. Is that arrogance or confidence?”“They are a Shepard. The ram must protect its herd.”>The Pushmi’s continued to tensely observe each other, one uncertain how to proceed, and the other waiting to see what kind of character they’ve met.
>>63117911Interesting that the encounter has started off as a tense one.
>>63117834My first idea is to have Writ-Wrot encounter Barren-Bairn, and have them spend a little time together.The second idea is to have all three (Torae-Tori, Writ-Wrot, Barren-Bairn) meet and go on a little adventure together, dragging Ivor along for the ride. Debating whether or not to include Leiwf'wa in the party.>>63116978I did enjoy writing Leiwf'wa. I'm not sure about bringing her joining a party, but it could work. It would almost be just as tempting to have her stay in the town, only to harass the centaur with questions and pleasantries in an attempt to forgiveness or possibly friendship. I'd imagine Writ-Wrot to be rather uncomfortable about the whole thing.
>>63118189Leiwf'wa became an amusing mixture of wisewoman and fangirl that you don’t commonly see, which made her amusing and a welcome addition to the world you’ve been writing. The idea of her joining the party completely on her own say-so and without Torae-Tori or Ivor’s approval is a fun one, but so is the thought that she’d try to ingratiate herself with Writ-Wrot to make amends for the wrongs of the past. You really couldn’t go wrong either way.
>>63117911Waiting to see if they take a swing at each other.
>>63118189> harass the centaur with questions and pleasantries in an attempt to forgiveness or possibly friendshipOh god, the images.>Geriatric elf.>Hanging out in the corner of a market.>Wearing a dress.>Harassing a traveling centaur.>"I don't see what's so wrong? I just want us to be friends!"I don't know weather I should be worried or wanting more.
>>63118941I feel like Pushmi-Pullyu represent the wonder and excitement of youth to this elf, which is why she’s so interested in them. When you’ve lived as long as she has, youthful wonder and excitement is hard to come by, and discovering that these fairytale creatures actually exist has reinvigorated her. It’s why I like the idea of her joining our heroes on their journey. I want to see more of that odd mixture of crotchety old wizard and young-at-heart explorer.
>>63117911>The sling held a rock, the bow an arrow.>It was Bende-Bunde who finally broke the tense silence.“We are sorry if we seem hostile.”“We have never met another of our kind. You are the first. We are unsure of what to do.”“You may be wolf, but we feel we know you.”“So we shall trust you, and we greet you.”“We are Bende.”“Bunde.”“You are correct in saying we are Shepherds.”“So who be you?”>The wolf cautiously eyed the ram.“He speaks of trust with a loaded sling.”>the Ram has to speak.“The cautious sheep lives longer and stronger than the reckless.”>The wolfs nodded.“And the bold wolf gets more meat.”“We are Hallu”“Halla.”“The Huntress.”>Bende-Bunde relaxed his stance a bit. The questions he had came into their minds and they hesitated as they thought.>Hallu-Halla knew what this hesitation meant. She had felt it herself when she first met one of her kind with Halli-Hilla the Healers. The questions of who made them, why they hadn’t seen any others, why they felt so familiar despite having never met. Surely these questions would-“Where did you first appear?”>... what?
>>63119545Color me intrigued.
>>63119545Feels like it might be moving a little quick, but it's a greentext so that's inherent to the medium.Please continue.
>>63119545>Hallu-Halla glanced at each other in confusion.“We don’t understand.”“Are you asking where we are from?”“We are from lands farther north.”>Bende-Bunde shook their heads.“No, we want to know how you first appeared.”“Your first memory.”“We remember ours.”“We do remember.”“We were walking through a gassy fiend.”“The sun was high and warm.”“I was heading towards a building.”“I was facing the herd of sheep.”“The woman inside thought We were an omen.”>Bende clenched the staff in his hands. Bunde’s sling twitched.“Her husband was still in the fields.”“He was searching for a lost lamb.”“So she let me inside and treated me as a guest.”“When he came back, they accepted us. Taught us for we were skilled.”“We have set that day to memory.”“We will not forget.”“So how did you appear?”>Hulla-Halla couldn’t help but be surprised at the conviction within the memory. It was not a topic she had thought would come up.“Our memory is not as clear. We will have to think back.”“Don’t know why you want to know, though.”>Bende-Bunde felt a little disappointed that she didn’t understand yet, but he was used to others not following his lines of logic.“It was perfect. So perfect.”“We were a Ram already near sheep.”“Already heading to a place where we could thrive.”“It was as if it was done on purpose.”“That is why we ask. We wish to know if yours was similar.”“We wish to know if yours was different.”>Hallu-Halla hadn’t thought of that. She would really have to think.
>>63120902Some good links to the mythology we created going on here.
>>63120902keep it up
>>63120902Definitely following along with interest.
>>63212899A little hung on wither or not Hallu-Halla appeared during a winter or summer.The summer let’s them be in their element with much to hunt let her survive, but wolves on the winter hunt is quite iconic and fitting for her pragmatic personality.
>>63122654I'd almost say go with winter. Tying it in with the theme of a lost sheep provides that sense that not only was the sheep at risk but it's keeper as well, re-enforcing the idea of an omen on their arrival.
>>63122769That feeling of a lost sheep was what I was going for with Bende-Bunde. They chose a herd, stuck fast to it, and has cared for them.Hallu-Halla is like a lone wolf who has actually learned to survive as that. She could still choose a pack, but hasn’t because they’re so used to being alone.
>>63123603Maybe it isn't so much that she hasn't chosen a pack, but she is so foreign that no pack would accept her.
Almost finished with a Ralee-Rilee tavern scene. I’ll post a link to it when it’s done.
>>63124695Woot!Don't want to rush you, but can't wait.
>>63120902>It was a long time ago. Hallu-Halla want one to remember single moments. They remembered how a deer moved while alert, how to tell when water is safe to drink, what wood and stone was best for her bow and arrows. What they remembered was how to survive. Despite this, feelings came to mind.“Cold. It was Cold. Snow was on the ground as winter hit our bones.”“We were cold, and we were hungry.”“We smelled it, a deer. A buck searching for some food.”“It smelled so good.”“We tracked it down, killed it, and ate it.”“It’s meat was set, and pelt was warm.”“We do not remember much else.”>Bende-Bunde grinned to each other. It was perfect. Hallu-Halla might not think so, but perfect it was. They circled each other some more before Bende spoke once more.“You know no more of our creation than us.”“It is plain, for you were hungry but didn’t know why.”“If you knew more, you could explain your hunger.”“Yet we know what we must do. We’re the Shepherd, you’re the Hunter.”“You the Wolf, and we the Ram.”“Our creators made us for this, and will contact us when we perfect it.”“We seek the Creator”“For they shall seek us.”>Hallu-Halla tensed their trip on their bow. This was a philosophy she couldn’t agree with.“We were left starving in the snow.”“We struggled through that winter. That winter and many more.”“There was never any help. All we learned we learned ourselves.”“We were abandoned alone in the woods.”“Why should we seek someone worth no loyalty?”>Bende-Bunde’s faces fell. Their belief brought them comfort, but didn’t comfort Hallu-Halla.“We cannot answer you.”“We act only on what we see. We do not expect you to agree.”“We did not expect, but wished you would.”“Yes, we wished.”
>>63125108Not bad.The end?
>>63126079Almost. Only one more post left. Two max.
>>63124695Alright here’s what I’ve been working on, “Tavern Talk” featuring Ralee-Rilee the Sneakthieves and the rest of their crew, discussing one of the rogues’ old jobs.https://pastebin.com/9uz2YcKhMight be too wordy and dialogue-heavy, but it was fun to write.
>>63126158Not bad dude.I wouldn't say that it was too heavy on the dialogue. Seemed to move at a good clip.
>>63125108I'm really liking that you're exploring two different potential Pushmi-Pullyu philosophies when it comes to their absent creators. Both Bende-Bunde and Hallu-Halla have strong opinions on the matter, neither being particularly right or wrong. I look forward to seeing how the tale ends, and I don't think you had to worry about them finding something worthwhile to talk about.
>>63126802Thank you. I tried to work in the suggestions that someone had made for the other party members, and I tried to make the story comedic without Ralee-Rilee seeming completely inept or her companions seeming like total assholes.
>>63126108>Bende-Bunde mentality sorted through the questions in their mind for one that would actually have a satisfying answer.>They could deduce there were more of their kind, so there was no need to ask. >While one may stand alone, two always means there is more. >Asking where they are would be useless, for seeking them out would mean abandoning his sheep. >They could ask her to spread news of his existence, just in case. But she didn’t act like interacted with others much. It would be as useful as his requests for information from his wool traders.>They could not be asked to stay around. She was a wolf, not a dog. No matter how kind they may be, a wolf can never be trusted near a sheep.>There was only one question to provide useful information.“You said you came from the north.”“From a place that gets much snow.”“That means you have traveled far.”“Far from your hunting grounds.”“Is there something you flee?”“Something you flee, or something you seek?”>Hallu-Halla has to admit, this Pushmi-Pullyu was perceptive. Fitting for a beast of prey.“A great predator came to our lands and attacked us.”“A cat of great power and size. We got wounded, but the fool beast underestimated us.”“We fought it off, but it got away. A friend healed us, and we’ve been tracking it down since.”“We thought it could be nearby, when we sensed you two and heard your calls.”>As if on cue, Bende-Bunde’s sheep began to bleat. Something had set them in a panic. Something was attacking their herd. They had been distracted and let their guard down.>Bende-Bunde did not even bother to say goodbye. They bolted toward the source of the panic.
>>63127200Mislinked. Meant this: >>63125108
>>63127200I hope that Hallu-Halla help them.
>>63127200>It was a lion.>It may have been white and bigger than any they had seen, but it was a lion. And it held a sheep in its mouth.>One of Bende-Bunde’s sheep.“The herd is scattered.”“It shall take days to track down every Ram, Ewe, and Lamb.”“We have failed them.”“We shall not fail again.”>The lion was after another Ewe.>Bende-Bunde charged foreword.>Bunde took lead and raised his sling.>Swing once.>Release.>The stone found its mark on the jaw of the beast.>It staggered, jaw broken, and Bende-Bunde got between it and the sheep. Bende beat their staff across its face, causing further damage.>But it did not go down.“It isn’t dead.”“A mistake has been made.”>The lion reared back to beat them with its claws. Bende-Bunde Braced themselves for the blow.>It never came.>A feather stuck from both its mouth and chest.>The lion fell, thrashing in its death throes.>Hallu-Halla stood with empty bows.“A well placed rock and a mighty blow.”“A lesser beast would have been felled by either.”“You have respectable strength, Bende-Bunde.”“Respectable strength and drive.”>Bende-Bunde gave a shaky bow.“You have saved our life.”“We are in your debt.”“We must offer you something.”“You gave us our life, so let us give you something in return.”“Our finest wool.”“Our fattest sheep.”“Our sheep?”“Our Sheep!”>Bende-Bunde ran over to the Ewe the beast was attacking.>No injuries, just scared snorting.“We must apologize, for we must retrieve our herd.”“It will take several days, they had a big fright.”“We still wish to reward you.”“We live east in the Glenn.”“Our master and his wife will treat you well.”“If you are still there once we return, you may have best pick of the herd.”“We thank you.”“We must be off.”>Bende-Bunde took off in the direction they saw the largest portion of the heard heading, the Ewe following close behind.
>>63128167>Hallu-Halla watched them leave and disappear over a hill.“The hunt is over. Our prey is slain.”“We will need to carve off its pelt. It would make a grand trophy.”“A pelt that big will need to be tanned before being transported.”“It will take several weeks. We will need a place to stay.”“And now a place we have.”>Halla pulled out a knife and began to carve into the great Snow Leopard.>These would be some interesting weeks.And done! I really hope I accurately conveyed the personalities of the Wolf and Ram. And most of all, I hope it was enjoyable to read!
>>63128355It was a very enjoyable read, thank you! I think the two pairs you chose weren't the easiest to bring together, but you used their differences to tell an interesting story of kin who share two very different points of view. I very much enjoyed seeing the conflict between Bende-Bunde's devotion to the idea of their creator's benevolence and Hallu-Halla's rejection of their creator's supposed disregard. It came out well and was a good addition to the world we've been building.
>>63128443Thanks! I chose them because of how simultaneously different and similar the lives of a Huntress and Shepherd could be. One is active, one is passive, but both are wholly devoted to the task they have taken. One thinks they see reasons their creator cares for them, and the other thinks they see reasons they do not, but both believe the creator is out there. It is what comforts them the most that causes them to believe what they believe.Bende-Bunde likes to think that there is somebody watching out for them as they watch over their flock, while Hallu-Halla like to think every success they’ve had is due to the effort they put in. Neither are wrong, neither are right, they just are.I also wanted to show that one wasn’t automatically stronger or weaker than the other due to their upbringing. It was their conviction in their chosen tasks that made them as they were.
>>63128745Very good points. These threads have definitely shown me some of the most thoughtful work I've seen on /tg/ in some time.
With 35 posts left before the thread begins to fall off the board, it might be wise to look toward the future. We'll be wanting to archive it on Sup/tg/ along with the others, certainly, and decide how to proceed from there. After three successful threads, I think it might be a good idea to give our Pushmi-Pullyu a rest for a week or at least until the weekend comes around again, in part to let us recharge our creative batteries and also to try and appear less obnoxious to other fa/tg/uys who might want to rain on the parade.As much as I look forward to new content, I'd hate for us to drain or poison the well.
>>63129899Agreed.We've produced more content on these threads over the past two week than most other threads produce in a year. We've got a good thing going here.We should let this sit for at least five days to a week. Work on capping those greentexts, save the pastebin links, all that jazz. It would be great if we could get some more drawfaggotry in here, but that might be a tall order. I'm certainly going to be taking a look at those Pathfinder rules and maybe re-working them a touch.Who knows, with the amount we've created it might be possible to make start an article on 1d4chan?
>>63130060I definitely think that we've got enough for a 1d4chan article. We already have several takes on the Pushmi's origins and history, a lot of discussion on their biology, personalities, and talents, a list of "established" Pushmi and their titles, and plenty of writing on several of our most notable examples. We could show the race's potential as peculiar NPCs and offer some sample stats.
>>63129899>>63130060Don't want to kill the golden goat by burning ourselves out and wearing out our welcome. One thing people seem to hate more than "fetish threads" are "fetish threads turning into generals."
>>63130060Noob here. How do we archive to suptg?
>>63131211I archived the last two, I'll archive this one
>>63130303>>63130205>>63130060>>63129899So what's the plan if someone starts another thread too soon? Sage it? Ignore it? Just let it die?
>>63132019Ignore it. We've already entered a pact to create a new thread next monday. We shall just have to keep to it.
>>63132812Put candles in a circle around my keyboard, slit my palms, made the oath.No new thread till monday.
>Excerpts from the upcoming book, Numerous facts of the Pushmi-Pullyu, 3rd edition, 2nd printing, penned by Wizard Ark Ak Akakak>Most beloved by children of all ages and races>Pushmi's walk very funny. Back and forth at the same time, no matter where they go. But did you know? They can jump both backwards and forwards too! Watch the Pushmi jump, jump, jump! All they way across the meadow, and up the mountain too!>Look at the monk grappling with the Pushmi. Silly monk! Don't you know that when you fight a Pushmi, you fight with a Pullyu too? Silly monk! Now you've got your limbs caught between the two.>How do Pushmi poop? How do Pushmi pee?>No-one knows. Not even me!
>>63133516>There aren't very many written works that mention the Pushmi-Pullyu.>Those that do include two treatise on rare and unusual magic creatures.>An account of a sorcerer's exploration of the faewilds of Tir-na-Nog.>Three children's books describing a similar beast, only once by name.>A single wildly unpopular romance novel with one as the main character.
>>63134243That one doesn't have a Pastebin, but it can be found in the second archived thread, I believe.>>63132019As hard as it is, it might be best to post a reminder that we'll have another thread next week and then "ignore" it. I say "ignore" because there's still a chance that something interesting may come of it that can be rolled into the next thread.
>>63134214>>A single wildly unpopular romance novel with one as the main character.Can't wait for someone to actually write that one.
>>63133516I vote for the question of how they poop being a common joke in-universe meaning “Hell if I know”.One that EVERY Pushmi-Pullyu has heard.
>>63134214>a single wildly unpopular romance novel with one as the main character.Was actually well written until the Pushmi-Pullyu disagree on which guy to choose and saw themselves in half.
It is crazy how the silliest concepts can be pushed to greatness when some passionate writefags get ahold of it.
>>63135366Yeah. We’ve made that silliness an acknowledged part of their character as a species and a source of mystery and bewilderment for those they meet. They really are fantastical.
>>63135345It was clear by that point that the author had written themselves into a corner and had to invoke some crazy bullshit to end the tale. While otherwise well-crafted, its main character and finale we’re not well received, most people calling it “silly” while some declared it “degenerate.”>>63135301That has, for better or worse, become a part of Pushmi Canon over the past few threads.
>>63133516It's books like this which reenforce the harmful stereotype of pushmi-pullyus being fictional.
>>63134243It's my story. I thought a screencap would be enough, but I can add it to my pastebin.
>>63136843That’s one of the things about them. They’re so fantastical and nonsensical that very few of the scholars that have heard of them believe they could be real, let alone worthy of study.
>>63138382Though the scholars who actually do come across one would have a bit of a freak-out and try to take as many notes as possible.The world must not have that many blatantly magical animals for people to be so surprised by a Pushmi-Pullyu.
>>63138659At least no animals as BLATANTLY magical, like you said. This setting probably has your standard mid-range fantasy creatures, beasts almost but not quite like our own but bigger, stronger and a bit stranger. The Pushmi-Pullyu are in another class entirely, as they couldn’t even exist without being magical. Creatures of their magical caliber may only hail from a bygone age, places well-hidden and lands far, far away.
>>63138659Maybe it's a case of them being so rediculously magical? People hunt all kinds of strange beasts or search for unique creature. But a double-headed, fae born/god forged/wizard summoned, creature with two minds with a habit for singing and arguing with itself? That's the realm of lunacy right there.
>>63141026Exactly. They're not just magical, they're ridiculously over-the-top, fairytale magical.
>>63142056They are definitely more magical than any non-Fae I can think of, and Fae are like humans++. Dragons can just be giant winged lizards, and Unicorns are horned horses. The closest equivalent to their unusual figure would be with Chimeras or Manticores, and despite albeing a mishmash of creatures, even then those are formed in a relatively sensible biological shape.The fact that Pushmi-Pullyus exist in opposition to how bodies are understood to function makes them uniquely special.So basically the question of “How do they poop?” just brings to the forefold how unusual and noteworthy they are.
>>63143216I think that's one of the most interesting things about them. That they aren't really a "race" of creatures, but a collection of magical creations.
>306 posts>only 16 images>50 postersWew laddies
>>63143415It's been a good thread with a lot of writing and world-building. I would be nice to get some kind of artist to draw some Pushmi pictures, but you can;t have everything I suppose. Maybe next week.
>>63143415And 75% of those posts were from 4 samefags.
There was definitely a core group keeping the thread going, and I tried to brainstorm and reply to others when I wasn't able to write story posts myself. I think it's a good idea to give things a rest for a week or so and try to attract some fresh blood with new content. If it doesn't go over well, we can be proud of three good threads.
>>63144644Speaking as one of those samefags, I didn’t mind. We were able to keep the lore we made internally consistent and had very little interference from trolls.I’d say it’s an example of /tg/ getting shit done.
I took the liberty of archiving the thread on Sup/tg/ with the others:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Statting+the+Pushmi-Pullyu+Part+3%09Thanks for another good time!
>>63146324Hooray!Though I think it was a mistake that the previous threads were tagged with “Monstergirls”, though that’s mainly because everything else I’ve seen with that tag tends to be fetish bait without attempt (or even desire!) to be anything else.To take an example already brought up, the Chakats didn’t look bad design wise, and a feline variety of centaur would have been a good change of pace. But they were made to be nothing but “so friendly, so flawless, such fur” Sue trash that you could find anywhere.They had something that could be cool, but was just made generic dumb.