There should be a Magic anime. And I don't mean one about the boring asshole Planeswalkers doing things, I mean an anime about highschool or college kids playing MTG with each other and learning about friendship.
>>62453776That would be bad and you should feel bad.
>>62453776I'd watch it. That's basically what Wizard's Soul is and I like Wizard's Soul.
>>62453776Im sure it would be cringy as hell if wotc has any agency on how its made but i would still watch the first episode
As long as we get this scene whenever someone summons a 7+ CMC creature.https://youtu.be/yHVYTcpEnx0?t=41
>>62453948> 7+ CMC creature> that kind of epic sceneFuck no. This is Magic."I Tap 8 mana, AND I CAST THE MIGHTY-""I tap 3 mana and counterspell.""w-What? I haven't even said what it is yet.""Does it cost all of the lands you just tapped?""Yes.""Then it doesn't happen. You don't have any mana left. Is your turn over now?""Hey man, don't be a dick.""That wasn't a yes or no answer to my yes or no question. Your spell got countered, are you done with your turn or not?"
>>62453878This. If wotc had any input they'd find ways to ruin it.
>>62454048Oh it's not like the antagonists put three Bottomless Trap Holes in their deck and blew up every sweet monster Yugi tried to summon. If the plot demands a top deck into an Emrakul, they'll get a top deck into an Emrakul.
>>62453776Considering the focus Wizards has tried to put on the "YOU ARE A PLANESWALKER" thing ever since Jace and crew took the spotlight, it confuses me somewhat that they haven't actually capitalized on that concept. Instead of making it all about Wizards' cut-rate superheroes, you can do a dumb shonen Isekai storyline easily within the current framework of the narrative. I guarantee even the most tiresome generic shonen protag would be infinitely more likeable than the current Gatewatch, and it opens the possibility to introduce the concept of /yourdudes/ to paper. Come up with some sort of customizable Planeswalker card system so you can play your special snowflake OC and craft a deck all about you. Kids would eat it up.
>>62453776Wizard's Soul was a manga about tcg players playing some mish mash of yugioh magic and whatever else. It was ok>>62453948Maybe for eldrazi or whatever>>62454048I'd like to see lantern control play out in an anime
>>62454122I'd watch an isekai anime about some shounen player blowing the shit out of the gatewatch
>>62454122>I guarantee even the most tiresome generic shonen protag would be infinitely more likeable than the current GatewatchI honestly disagree.I'm not saying that the Gatewatch are good but Isekai trash is much worst.The dream would be just an adaptation of the OG Ravnica saga.
>>62454122> Come up with some sort of customizable Planeswalker card system so you can play your special snowflake OC and craft a deck all about you. Kids would eat it up.Stickers!Seriously, leave the art field blank, have a bunch of stock empty planeswalker cards in each color with equivalent mana costs and the same starting loyalty, and then you can have loyalty abilities as stickers. Each Planeswalker can have 3 of your choice, with some loyalty ability stickers having a little colored bar on the side that show they can only be used by that particular colored planeswalker. Technically you can even give your PW 3 ultimates, they will just be unuseable trash because you can't reach the loyalty to use them because you never gave yourself any +1s.
>>62453795>That would be badHey, fuck you.>>62453776I ordinarily hate deferring to the opinion of self-proclaimed "anime pros" but Mothers Shill-for-Crunchyroll-all-day-erry-day Basement did make a good video about the subject. A lot of card game anime don't get card games right and usually rely on the right card being drawn at the right time for maximum dramatic effect. If a Magic Anime were to become a thing, it would require actual knowledge of the game, deck building and win conditions. It would basically require the game to be won or lost before it has even started. He rightfully draws comparisons to Shokugeki no Souma, where we usually see Souma drafting a strategy and then cut to the end result, with the cooking itself often changing very little about the overall strategy. It's not like he walks in without a plan and just does whatever feels right.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ6YeGCM1woThis is the video in question. If that's how it's handled, all it needs to become a succes is some relatable characters and good character designs. If the writers are insecure about how to handle that, they can just make pretty girls with big boobies and hope nerds see past their vapid personalities Just like real life amirite gaiz? High five?
>>62454247At the same time, if you are representing MTG accurately even the absolutely best deck ever will occasionally lose outright to a worse deck because you never played a spell. Too many lands drawn, you lost the game. Not enough lands drawn, you lost the game. With shuffling, you can mulligan down to 3 cards and then draw every round and STILL never see a land purely due to shitty luck that game. It happens, even in decks that are more than Lands Matter and thus are mostly lands.
>>62454247I would either take an "actual" card game anime or something at least as camp and silly as Yu Gi Oh, any in between would be disappointing.
>>62454329Luck remains a factor, but generally a good deck eliminates luck as much as possible and wants to establish win conditions as soon as possible. This is for example why in the Yu-Gi-Oh (real world card game) meta Want Jug is considered overpowered, as it puts you two steps closer to your win condition for the sacrifice of only one card which has no real use otherwise (which is why it's often banned). Even that one card that allows you to draw one in exchange for 1000 LP is considered worth it, because a lot of the pro players consider that one extra step towards your win condition worth the blow (as they believe the only LP that matters is your last. If you've aced your win condition, the enemy's LP don't even matter anymore).
>>62454048I think Commander would work a lot better as a format for an anime.
>>62454245I was going to say something using the sideboard as a zone and having three slots to fill on a given "generic Walker" card where you choose some stuff of the appropriate color and plus/minus value, but that'd work too. Have some sort of super premium service where you slip Hasbro $100 and they'll custom print your OC walker (if they have a legal ability combination) with some custom art you send them, and you've got a tidy little money making scheme that Timmy and Vorthos would be all over.
>>62454048>"I Tap 8 mana, AND I CAST THE MIGHTY-">"I tap 2 mana and counterspell.">"I exile a blue card from my hand and pay 1 life..."
>>62454384>as they believe the only LP that matters is your lastThat is correct, even in magic.
>>62454194HELLO. I'm glad I'm not crazy, as a kid I distinctly remember reading this shit and the dude did cool old school shit like the Zuran Orb + Armageddon combo and slapped Rancor on a Muscle Sliver and swung for lethal thanks to a Taunting Elf.
>>62454048>"I Tap 8 mana, AND I CAST THE MIGHTY-">"I tap 3 mana and counterspell.">"Ah! Unfortunately for you the mere act of casting THE MIGHTY EMRAKUL is enought to allow his power to take possess of your very mind! Which means that even if you countered it your next turn is mine!"
>>62454122>Come up with some sort of customizable Planeswalker card system so you can play your special snowflake OC and craft a deck all about you.I could see this working in a single player RPG.>Make your avatar, and name your walker. First and last name, as to stay in line with regular planeswalker nomenclature.>You choose 1 color. Determining your starting deck and starting planeswalker abilities.>Your planeswalker is 6 mana and costs 4CC. Starts at 4 Has a +1, -3, and a -7.>As you play through the game, travel to different planes, and beat their storylines. You get some things.>You get new cards to add to your deck, some are gifts you get for beating quests, others are from random drops from beating monsters.>You get new titles for your planeswalker. Following the "First Name, Title" nomenclature. So Anon, Beast Tamer if you're feeling particularly green. Other, basically cosmetic effects are added.>You gain block relevant mechanics and abilities to add to your walker. In the graveyard matters plane, you could get thought scour as a +2 on your blue walker. Nahiri's Rummage +2 for red. Etc.>Your planeswalker can be customised anytime outside of battle, but it has to remain at least 1 of your colors. Your deck does not have to match it, and you don't HAVE to have your planeswalker in the deck.I mean, the game would probably be linear as shit because its a game made in current year +X. But if it were up to me, more generic abilities would be tied to main game progress or level up but more themed abilities and powerful cards would be tied to sidequests. Getting other planeswalkers to add to your collection would be behind beating their personal stories.>After reaching Ravnica, you get to choose to add another color and play that guilds storyline. >After beating the game, you get the dreaded 4th ability and the option of a 3rd color.>The post-game (god forbid there's effort put into it) leads you to 4 color and ultimately 5 color freedom of identity.
>anime set in MtG-verseYes>Card game anime about MtGHow about no?
Am I alone in kinda wanting to see an anime where the characters play some sort of miniature game be it 40k, x wing, infinity, etc. rather than another TCG anime.To my knowledge there hasn't been any true miniature focused anime with the closest it's come to being 2 yugioh spin offs which both flopped in terms of the anime and the physical games, build fighters which boils down to rock'em sock'em robots with gunpla, and if you really want to stretch it, series like beyblade and bakugan.
>>62454989I don't think miniature wargames are very popular in Japan. A combination of expensive and requiring more space to play than they usually have available.
>>62453948>YES WE MUST
>>62454916>anime set in mtg universe focuses on the gatewatch
>>62455070It doesn't have to though it's not improbably that it would.
>>62454247This video is great but he manages to whiff hard.Card game anime aren't trying to get the card game parts right because only /tg/ would want a perfectly accurate to form card game animeWhat they try to do is create excitement and flair that panders to the primary demographic of shonen seriesAn MTG anime would have to have everyone almost always playing on curve with next to no "play land, pass"
>>62453842>>62454157Thank you, this is exactly what I wanted
>>62455129There can be tension with mana screw as long as it doesn't stay too long. Some games are just a proper topdeck away from ending. Some games can be turned around from missing a land drop if the mana curve isn't demanding.The problem with card games is that unlike with balanced and randomless games like chess the player is not entitled to win, meaning that skill isn't everything.
>>62455109MTG has such a rich library of different planes that it could focus on, and a ton of great stories that could be told without a single planeswalker. Hell, even the Urza jerking off on the early books was a million times better than the fucking gatewatch.
>>62453776Duel Masters was originally going to be MTG. Iirc, the manga was
>>62455212Even at its jerkiest the early stories never hesitated to depict Urza as a cunt, a fuckup and a guy who was in the wrong as often as not. That's why despite him being a smug pretentious Blue prick he's remembered fondly while the most anybody has ever liked Jace was when he forgot he was Jace for a while. Three dimensional characters are always more interesting.
>>62454247this entire precepts completely misses the point of a card game anime, but is understandable from the point of view of a typical mtg grognardA magic game is interesting when you take into account the fluff of the decks, the back and forth and those very specific situations when the game suddenly devolves into crazy territoryA card game anime such as Yu-Gi-Oh! will include stuff like strategies, combos and "mindgames" but those don't equate to their real-life equivalents. Do you know why ? Because it's better to play a card that spells each letter of the word D.E.A.T.H once per turn until the full word is completed for an instant win rather than seeing an stupid combo that only works with two or three cards, doesn't end the game right away but still ends up winning the matchSome of the most memorable scenes in Yu-Gi-Oh! completely ignore the rules, to the point that in some scenes we don't even know which turn it is anymore. The games naturally devolve into crazy territory because anything can happen, they'll just make a card up on the spotThis is why I think that a MTG anime is impossible to sell to current players, because they WANT people to "play the game" right. Just go into the comments of any youtube game and you'll see people arguing about the rules because to them, that's funBut that's far from good enough for a majority of people, who just don't care
>>62455129Play land, pass would happen, but only as setup for a later gambit. "Ha, he hasn't cast any spells for two turns! He is mana flooded, or only has cards too expensive to cast! Sucks to be you, Tee Gi, but I'm playing an aggressive deck. You'll be dead by turn 5.""This is it, Tee Gi. I've cast a creature every turn, and you have nothing but mana. Your last remaining 9 life are mine!""Wrath of God! Destroy all creatures.""Oh no, my board state! Its okay, I just have to... my hand is empty. Shit. He has a full hand. SHIT. Okay, I can still recover from this. He only has 9 health, I just have to-"And then Tee Gi controls his shit and combos out, and he never attacks with another creature again.
>>62455185skill doesn't matter for a tcg anime>>62455291this guy gets it
>>62454048>"I Tap 8 mana, AND I CAST THE MIGHTY-">"I tap 3 mana and counterspell.">"Ha! You fell right into my trap! Akroma, Angel of Fury can't be countered!">"N-NANI!?"
>>62454247I watched the video and just thought: Instead of just tossing away all of the shonen anime goodness why not just toss in the best out of three and the mindgames that come with that format? It would make a great freaking victory if the BBEG is outsmarted after a tense third round of almost equal wits, tricks and luck.
>>62455260>spend the entire early books showing how Urza sacrificed everything and everyone in his blind fight against Yawgmoth >in his last book he just decides to join him for no real reason and throws away all his character development because he goes crazy lol!I will never not be mad
>>62455480It's not like it isn't foreshadowed, Xantcha notices Urza's more like his Phyrexian foes than he'd like to admit. And ultimately it is Urza's plan that defeats Yawgmoth, and his greatest champion (Gerrard) who stops Urza himself from making the worst play of his life.
>>62455480yeah, that was pretty bad...Urza's pride was a major thing, the sudden shift was just stupid
>>62455271>The games naturally devolve into crazy territory because anything can happen,>I cast Lightning bolt! >Fool, my creatures are too strong to be hurt by that!>That's would be relevant if I targeted it at them! But you forgot I have a Gavony Township in play! And by targeting the right house I can generate the effect of a rooftop storm!>That's impossible!>And now I cast Earthquake, which destroy all the graves in my graveyard, allowing me to cast my zombies directly from it! And thanks to the rooftop atom I just generated, I now play again every zombie you ever killed in the entire game!>You can't do that!>I just did!
>>62455523it's not because they are similar that they will suddently side with each otherBig Y and Urza being so similar is just an added touch of irony to the tale
>>62455568>mfw I hear the voices of Yugi and Kaiba over this
>>62455523Naw, it wasn't properly foreshadowed at all. Becoming he thing you hate most in spirit is far different from just deciding to just join your long time mortal enemy of literally thousands of years on a whim, ESPECIALLY because he saw Mishra (or not who knows) and just left him there. And that ending was a huge missed opportunity to not have the biggest conniving mastermind of the entire mtg universe not have been planning a big backstab against Yawgmoth once he finally dropped his guard.
>>62455601He didn't literally just decide to join Yawgmoth, he was being mindfucked into doing so. Keep in mind the 9th circle of Phyrexia is LITERALLY Yawgmoth. Urza was stepping into his archnemesis' realm, it was a dangerous play and their similar interests allowed Yawgmoth to dominate him. He dominated Gerrard too, who was LITERALLY created explicitly for the purpose of beating Yawgmoth, and it took Yawgy playing with his food for Gerrard to be able to snap out of it.
>>62454384it makes me sad that the guy that made all of those died.
>>62453776Fuck no, what's wrong with you?
What kind of escalation would a Magic anime have.Yugioh is almost always in a state of "save the world".The people in Vanguard went from normies playing card games to the MC and his friends fighting a chaos god then punching a black hole to death
>>62455763Wait, REALLY? I saw him posts here a few weeks ago I think. Or maybe it was someone reposting his stuff? What happened?
>>62455821Yu-Gi-Oh! started with your typical highschool anime you know, the MTG anime could always start it's own brand of villains/god cards/deeper mystery
>>62455821Why does it have to escalate as far as yugi? Theres a Pre-release arc, a GP arc, a PT arc, World champs, weekly FNM filler, EDH nights et al.
>>62455922Because there eventually needs to be something to hook people in when the inevitable "I could just do this stuff outside at a LGS" kicks in
>>62455821>escalationIt's a story about a girl playing with her dad who is dying from a brain tumorAs the story goes on the girl gets better and better as she does her father starts losing his mental capacity until one day he can't play at all. She obviously gets her father's cards when he inevitably passes, taking all the cards so far and putting them into one deck. A few weeks after the funeral she shows up to an LGS to get a game in.She brings the deck that she had made using all of her father's collection.It's turn 5She taps outCasts Shivan dragonPassesHer opponent plays his 3rd Tron land, casts ugin wipes her field then kills hera few turns later.She had been playing with all these old cards this whole time, and just like letting her father go, she has to let go of the fact that the game she loves doesn't exist anymore. 13 episodes. No OVA. The beginning is kinda slow and overly sappy, episodes 5 and 9 are pretty much just filler but the ending is pretty ok6/10 final score.
>>62455946That's what the waifus are for
>>62455978>She taps out>Casts Shivan dragonHer dad's signature cardAnd watches it get exiled Brutal
>>62455568Yu Gi Oh season 1 was a magical time.>mfw was confused af by Mystic Elf card as a child cause it said nothing about any magical chant
>>62455393do people just outright not read cards like that in the yu gi oh animu?
>>62456080The cards don't even have text
>>62456103The cards have text in the Japanese version. People still don't like reading in the anime
>>62456080>He thinks the anime has actual rulesI remember that once they defeated a monster with infinite attack by generating a loop that went infinite and then giving that loop a +100 bonus or some shit like that. Or the famous time when Yugi did pic related. Anime Yu-Gi-Oh is basically Calvinball.
>>62455890That's sad. It's kinda depressing when you think about it. How many people here whom you've had pleasant conversations with are dead now? I remember that one girl on /r9k/ who had some kind of severe mental illness and a boyfriend with that same illness, both of whom would never become older than 21. I remember that guy from /d/ who had signs of early onset dementia. I remember that guy on /tg/ with the early onset parkinson.I try not to think about it, but it's actually kind of painful. I can't call them friends, but they're people I've shared pleasant experiences with. I "knew" them.
>>62456296True calvinball was only season 1, after that they mostly stuck to the actual rules if god/plot cards weren't directly involved.
Would the MC play mono-R aggro or Bant midrange?
>>62456396yeah, I know how you feel anonbeing somewhat about friendship, /mlp/ tends to share a friends made along the way mentality in times of hardship
>>62456882Mono-R aggro into bant into 5c against the final boss
>>62456882bant is more likely, it has friendly critters (green), honourable knights (white) and mindgamey-cards (blue)
>>62456882The MC plays Bant Company.The MC's male friend plays Mono-R aggro, then goes Boros Midrange, later splashing Black.The MC's female friend plays UW Control, UW Tempo, then Esper Tempo.The format is fictional, but it somewhat resembles Frontier since most of the cards would be legal in it.
I swear to god I saw some manga about modern players where the protag was new and given the best deck in the format (splinter twin). I distinctly remember a page where he casts vendilion clique against a tron player, sends away (IIRC) Karn, people watching say Karn was bait as Tronguy casts Wurmcoil, complete with a SKREEEEEEEEE
>>62456882>>62457005>The MC's male friend plays Mono-R aggro, then goes Boros Midrange, later splashing Black.>He's hotheaded, and only starts playing black after he gets turned evil for an arc.>Nerdy side character playing Mono-blue artifacts that slowly powercreeps into affinity feat tinker/madcap or some other way of cheating out a big artifact boss monster.>The big quiet intimidating guy who hangs around with nerd who's actually really friendly and plays mono green beasts.>The antagonist turned rival protagonist who plays a Sultai attrition deck. The change of white for black represents the rivals desire to be powerful and a loner in contrast to the white centred deck run by the MC with lots of friends. While it seems subtle here, its constantly reiterated throughout the show every time they duel.
>>62457005What will the MC's rival play?I would think B/R or B/G
>>62457199I was thinking the MC's male friend doesn't turn evil, but just more competitive and more proactive in dealing with threats. Bx deck players in real life are usually pretty chill around here.
>>62457241Temur Midrange with a substantial number of planeswalkers.Alternatively, some sort of tempo deck with hard-to-kill evasive threats.
>>62457260sadly they'll all have their favourite PW, that's pretty much inevitable
>>62455010There is a niche for miniature wargames in Japan and while small is still big enough to warrant a few shops to carter to it. However I don't think its unpopular because of cost or space, take Gunpla for example its expensive as shit and takes up entire shelves of space, yet bandai is able to milk more money out of it then any other Gundam related work.The problem seems to be there is no IP/series for anyone to latch on to in Japan, hell 40k only has a small foothold because of fan translations for the guides, a scattering of lore, and one maybe two books.(and if your not convinced the lack of popularity could be a plot point in an anime. Make it so that the MC has to go threw a small arc or shit where he has to decide is it even worth putting this much time and effort into a game he loves if he can barley find anyone to play with)
>>62455716I still think it's bullshit. Urza was a man driven towards a singular goal over the course of thousands of years, don't tell me he didn't foresee Y's realm being influential and plan for it and doesn't have the willpower to resist it anyway. It was done purely to have an excuse to have Gerrard and Urza fight.
>>62453776Already a thing.https://youtu.be/aWq6TUeAPjM
>>62458362>implying that's anywhere near the same thing.
>>62457005MC really ought to play RG. It's what just about every kid starts out with, and it fits the brash nature of your standard shounen protagonist
>>62458989RW is even more shounen protagonist-y, isn't it, though?
>>62458989>about to laugh>realise my first deck was RGfuck me sideways and call me Kozilek
>>62456882My ideal lineup would be:>mc: amulet titan>bbg: u/r prison>rival: various bgx configurations
>>62457199> One of the foes for the week runs a UG Merfolk deck and the game against the MC devolves into a boardstall until MC draws Elspeth, Knight-Errant or foe draws an islandwalk Merfolk.> Another foe of the week runs BW Vampires and that game revolves around lifegain and life loss via ETB effects.> Season 1's BBEG is a PTQ grinder who tries to crush the spirits of the MC and friends with a Lantern Control deck, right after a new set comes out and MC is tempted to switch from Bant Company to another deck because a hate card was printed in the new set.
>>62458989Maybe RG Aggro with mostly creatures and little interaction?
>>62462679The anime should be about a protag who plays "honest" RG aggro (with actual Mountains and Forests) and starts off winning against better decks by outplaying them, but runs into a wall land must struggle between playing what he wants and playing Jund.
>>62463025In Modern, would Jund be considered the most "protagonist" deck? I'm not sure if Modern Jund has any glaring weaknesses. I would assume Modern Jeskai Control is the most well-rounded deck.
>>62463075No, the protag can't have black. The rival and friend can, but not the MC. Unless its offset by the enemy colors and he rocks a Junk deck. Mardu Aggro and Jeskai Control suit his friends decks remember the more colors a deck has, the 'deeper' the character , and only the rivals/antags can rock U/B/x decksIn ferms of modern 5c humans is the "good guy", cause well, humans. Gx Tron is the stupid sidekick, burn is best friend, and merfolk is waifu. Jund would be rival prob, Dredge is the creepy corpsefucker of the class, Lantern is antagonist PEAK PERFORMANCE is endgame villain
>>62464249>Gx Troneldrazi anything is obviously a major clan of villains who threaten the school/world with occult powers
>>62454612are these supposed to be funny?
>>62464377Gx Tron isn't E-Tron. Eldrazi Tron and Eldrazi aggro are twins, puppets of the endgame. Typical creepy twins, the MC has to beat them in a two-headed giant match. They have white hair, talk in unison, and are both missing an eye
>>62454048I hope you don’t actually act like this anon
>>62466755Of course he doesn't. Are you a fool?
>>62466732>two-headed troll matchesYES
>tfw show goes by you lose, you give up your most valueable card>tfw end of the series has three playsets of Black Lotus that he never fucking uses but never sells them
So can we all agree that the female childhood friend needs to NOT play mono white angels? Give her something fun, maybe storm or grishoalbrand.
>>62469786If not mono white angels, mono green elves is the other easy route
>>62469832The point was to give her a bit of depth and not just the whole "friend to all living things" delicate waifu material. Give her a deck that'll make people go "wait, she's actually competent at this."The one complaint I have with the YGO anime is that almost all the female duelists only play cute things.dec and exist to lose to the bad guy. Is it too much to ask for one who isn't a damsel in distress?
I want a legacy anime where every deck is kind of personified by the player. >infect is some drowsy sick guy with a constant snot bubble.>storm is a crazy cackling guy that wears lots of belt buckles.>red prison is some big stoic guy with a chissled jaw, possibly fresh out of actual prison. Goes from stoic to hype mode when hes got the early game aggro with rabble master or hazoret.>12post Some old beefy biker guy that hates S&T players because they 'cheat' with show and tell. "Pay the cost or not at all son!" Has lovecraft monster patches on his biker jacket. Currently a bit down on his luck.>pox Chill goth kid whos really into metal. Loves the long game. Gets super pissed and probably rage quits when paired against lands.>Miracles Asshole fat guy probably in a fedora who hates fun. Probably has mild ocd about keeping the field empty with only his 2/1 on it. May or may not secretly think hes jace incarnate. Unwarranted sense of self importance.I'd prolly put the protag on a devler deck, or maybe switched between variants as to always be able to fight the gimmick of the other deck.
>>62454916Would be cool if it didnt focus on the sjwlgtbbqabcdefg super friends walkers. Fuck the walkers. Fuck jace, and fuck wotc for ruing what little cool bits of personality they had. A show about the crew of the weatherlight and trying to find the legacy would be cool as fuck though.
>>62453776OP if that’s what you’re looking for I can not recommend the MTG Arena beta enough. The tutorial ends with you fighting an evil-laughing, one-liner spouting Nicol Bolas. At one point he goes “You cannot defeat me, my power surpasses that of the gods!” only to be like “What is this?!” because I took my draw phase. It’s actually retarded.
>>62470005>She has the Mono-White Angel-Waifu deck that she uses 95% of the time>She also has the hardcore Blue-Red Control deck that makes even the MC a little worried by how optimized it is. >She doesn't like using it because it's just a little too strong for kitchen table
>>62454048>But what if my opponent wasn't allowed to play the game AT ALL?Blue/White counter decks are the reason I don't play anymore
>>62470282This is great, I want this
>>62470357He expects you to give up when you're staring down 15 power on the board with a lone 1/4 and 3 life left. But the 1/4 has "whenever you a creature with power 2 or less enters the battlefield, gain 1 life and draw a card."Cue a runout of blockers that ends with serra angel that lets you wipe the board in combat, then turn it around.Another funny thing is that he opens with a card that makes each player discard a card, and pitches volcanic dragon to reanimate later. Your navi-like npc is still surprised by this.
>>62454048Or almost no one plays counterspells and they aren't particularly useful. Like, what if everyone on the show kinda sucked, like they all play the kind of decks you built when you started out and had no fucking clue what you were doing, like "Villain of the week with 4 copies of all 5 colors for circle of Protection and his victory condition is Repentant Blacksmith" and he loses because he doesn't have CoP Artifacts and the hero just casts Colossus of Sardia or something. Then he comes back with CoP Artifacts in his deck and gets BTFOd by Purify. I actually battled that kind of shit before. Or bad guy of the week just slaps down bigass green creatures like Yavimaya Wurm with some acceleration and pump spells. No removal, no card draw, like this is the kind of deck an idiot 10-year-old would build. And he's one of the "best players" in the game since he's smart enough to put Rancor on a creature that doesn't already have Trample. Or if the do battle "Counterspell guy" he has absolutely no board control or bounce or anything so once a creature actually does get through he's hosed.
>>62470282>MiraclesHoly shit how did i forget this? Why isn't the protag running atleast 3 one of miracles for that late game topdeck that turns the tides of battle?
>>62453776Can’t we have an anime about Planeswalkers in a high school? As students?
>Tee Gi vs Rival, Life totals 10/10.>Rival controls his signature demanding dragon, Tee Gi controls only his great-uncle's Geist of Saint Traft >"I attack with my Demanding dragon!">Tee Gi casts collected company before blocks.Inner monologue: "Please, i need a creature with flying to block his attack.">Tee Gi sees and plays 2 Noble Heirarchs>Dramatic dragon breath engulfs Tee Gi, visibly hurt, as his life total drops to 5.>"Just give up Tee Gi, if my dragon attacks you one more time you lose, all you have is that geist and a bunch of 0/1s and i still have 10 life. Even with the angel your creatures are just too weak to defeat me!">Tee Gi untaps, drawing a second collected company."I cast Collected Company! And play another two noble heirarchs from the top of my deck!">"Oh look, more weaklings for me to crush. Just like i did your puny friends.""On their own, my creatures are weaker, yes... But they aren't alone, and neither am I!">Tee Gi attacks with his Geist of saint traft."Each of my Noble Heirarchs help my Geist to attack, giving him +4/+4. Totalling 10 damage!">"No! That's impossible!">The glowing spirit strikes Rival, the angel quickly follows. Rival drops to the floor, his dragon fades away, and his life total drops to 0.>Rival is on his hands and knees, face contorted with confusion. As he looks up, the camera cuts to Rival's perspective. Tee Gi is smiling, arm extended. "Good game, let's play again sometime.">Rival smacks Tee Gi's hand away and stands up. "I don't need your pity" He says, packing his things.
>>62470282Im seeing the rival on D&T for some reason. Like hes slightly older than the protag and more knowledgeable about the game.
>>62453776That is literally the worst idea I've ever heard of. We have too many stupid anime about people playing card games already. An anime actually set IN a fantasy world would be more novel and enjoyable at this point.
>>62474419Because there aren't enough generic fantasy animes out there
>>62474706Well, are there? All I fucking see nowadays is fucking isekai shit.
>>62474741Yeah there is more than enough. Like way more. I Would rather sit though an episode of waifu slapping cardboard than shitty waifus actually casting spells.
>>62454122OMG THAT WOULD BE FUCKING DOPEFUCKING HAVE DOMRI BE THE MAIN CHARACTER D:
>>62454048Tron decks, reanimator decks, Tapout control shells, ramp decks.... You clearly do not play magic.
What kind of anime character plays Mono-U Tron?
>>62453776>learning about friendshipyou don't actually make friends with the losers at your lgs, right anons?>tfw prelaw student with 95th percentile lsat score and an immaculate transcript>tfw you see the same working class losers and high school dropouts at your lgs putting all of their weekly wage into magicit's sad, really.
>>62454668This manga was the fucking best. I remember growing up on it. Too fucking bad right during planeshift block they changed the story and it became duelmasters. Even had a promo 7th ed mtg shivan dragon with special back from corocoro.
>>62466574I don't know. Some of them I could legit see on the card instead of the text we got, and the last one on the bottom right always cracks me up whenever I see it.
>>62454612>Chop Suey playing in the distance
>>62453776>MC is a Kiki-chord player>Best buddy is a Naya Zoo player>Best girl is a Tribal Vampires player>Main rival is a Death and TaxesThen have a tournament. I think the main characters will have deck interesting enough to show multiple times and the main rival will have a deck that looks absolutely dominating in places where the deck showcases how constricting it is. Almost every other deck in the format is a one trick pony that you only need to navigate the matchup
>>62455821If it stuck to how Vanguard was at the start and built on the lore of the game, but kept it distant from tying directly into the main story it would be great.
>>62454612>"looks like you've come down with a sudden case of being-in-the-way-of-a-millennium-old-vampire"This will always be my favorite.
>>62454466>>62454245They kiiinda did something like that once with the theros block "Forge a godslayer" part of the hero's path (personally one of the best things they ever did to promote a set) where you made an equipment to kill a god. it was all very cool.
>>62454247I think that skipping to the end result is a mistake. It's all right to just do the slide-show or however the anime handles it in Shokugeki no Souma because it's an independent and focused event. It shows glimpses of the technique used by each Chef, and then shows us the end result and the stress/tension of the characters during the judging. It's better to do a card game anime like a sports or shounen anime. The "choreography" doesn't need to be perfect, but it needs to properly get across character's personalities during it. It's not about "will the MC draw the card in his deck to get him out of this circumstance?" it's about the difference between the start and end of series when "there's a 10% chance to draw the right card" and how the characters all grow and interact in different kinds of games (2v2, free-for-all, weird anime nonsense). It's one of the reasons Wizards Soul: Holy War of Love works well. Sure it doesn't give an explicit play-by-play in most cases admittedly, but it focuses heavily on the characters personalities and how they feel when they play against the MC, and on the plays that show off the character's personality. It really says something that when the chapter where Roman lost to her own combo/alt-win that /tg/'s biggest complaint wasn't "it's bullshit she could do that, how stupid of a game/plot armour" but instead was "Why is she mad? Her combo went off in a spectacular way, sure she lost, but that was beautiful.".
>>62454612>[unintelligible beatboxing] ~ Jace BelerenOkay, I laughed.
>>62454384>>62455763>it makes me sad that the guy that made all of those died.>>62455853>Wait, REALLY? I saw him posts here a few weeks ago I think. Or maybe it was someone reposting his stuff? What happened?>>62455890>https://www.hightowersmemorial.com/obituaries/obituary-listings?obId=3262744#/celebrationWall>>62456396>That's sad. It's kinda depressing when you think about it. How many people here whom you've had pleasant conversations with are dead now? I remember that one girl on /r9k/ who had some kind of severe mental illness and a boyfriend with that same illness, both of whom would never become older than 21. I remember that guy from /d/ who had signs of early onset dementia. I remember that guy on /tg/ with the early onset parkinson.>I try not to think about it, but it's actually kind of painful. I can't call them friends, but they're people I've shared pleasant experiences with. I "knew" them.>>62456891>yeah, I know how you feel anon>being somewhat about friendship, /mlp/ tends to share a friends made along the way mentality in times of hardshipWhat I recomend you guys to do, is look at his artwork and appreciate his memory.
>>62478101And try to follow his footsteps.
>>62457199>>He's hotheaded, and only starts playing black after he gets turned evil for an arc.>Everybody thinks he's back to being the hotheaded friendly rival optimist type after he comes back to the side of good. >Suddenly when shit gets real he swaps to A SECOND DECK?! >Plays suicide black with all the "pay x life" cards.>Eventually loses a match, but refuses to let the antagonist win and instead takes himself out of the game.
>>62453776It was called Duel Masters.
>>62469786>>62470376She plays a very unoptimal "cute things" deck, because she's only interested in playing cards she likes (her idea of cute varies from convention for her "trump card"). But for some reason everybody is scared to play her competitively (it turns out she used to play blue-X "no fun allowed" at a very high level, but only brings that deck out when someone needs their ego knocked down a peg or two).
>>62453776Maybe this has already been brought up in the thread, but are there any animes where the main characters get together and play tabletop- and/or card games? I know that the 0 season of Yu-Gi-Oh! touched upon various games, but post that season it was just the card game.
>>62478476Quick Start! is a manga that's basically cute girls doing cute /tg/ things.
>>62470376>>62478228>waifu has to fight a tough opponent by herself>the fate of the LGS is at stake, somehow>the gang is scared she's gonna lose, the deck she uses casually is just WG "I think this card looks pretty" x 60>she drops her smile and says "forgive me father, I have to go all out, just this once">pulls out her UB permission mill, complete with some kind of soul-crushing infinite combo
>>62478696Will check it out. Thanks, anon.
>>62454163>Blowing the gatewatch
>>62453776Make it basically highschooler stuck in Shandalar and I'm in
>>62476036>Prelaw student braggingL M A O
>>62476036>>62480855Oh yeah, good luck with your career anon. Hope you're at a top tier school because anything else is worthless in this overcrowded market. We have lawyers working as paralegals at our firm it's so bad right now.
>>62478867>UB Mill>not fully powered ANT that ends with her being on the SFW side of tentacle rape
What kind of character would use reanimator?
>>62453776>animeNo, just no.>mangaOk, but no-fanservice, no plot armor and it should involve kid's deaths and rape.
>>62454245I unironically like this idea, except WotC would make all the abilities trash and the walkers all 7+ mana
>>62481268Probably the spooky goth girl that’s meant to be s foil for best girl by being pale and disheveled. Then she picks up TinFins...
>>62455237>implying that wasn't a date to begin with
>>62454588god I love being a control player so god damn much
>>62474741there is a fucktin of them, and you don't hear about them because they're absolute garbagethe isekai that make it into "our" mainstream tends to be the top of the barrel, and even the good ones lack overall qualityThankfully we get season 5 of jojo, so there's still hope
>>62481180my father went to duke so i thiink i'll be fine.
>>62481268Old, evil man who likes to play as a villain, but just isn't powerful as he used to be.
>>62481268black glasses, black coat, calm. Goes apeshit the moment protagonist brainstorms for faerie macabre which is of course 3rd from the top. RB reanimator is his unhinged lil bro, who does a lot of hyena laugh instead.
>>62470282>MiraclesNah, miracles would be a strict Christmas cake office lady in a pencil skirt, who hates fun.>StormSorry, but I have never met a storm player online who wasn't a complete tryhard douchebag. It's hard to separate that personality from the deck anymore>12post12 post would be some fat guy who eats cheeseburgers and wears a hawaiian shirt>AffinityFor some reason Mechazawa, just runs a really great robots deck>RUG/BUG/Grixis DelverA trio of twins who like to think they're different, but ultimately rely on the same shell>MUDBuff Black man with not much to say>Sneak and Show Loud, rich, sneaky, blonde American man>BelcherEasy going guy who just wants to have fun and has no problems winning or losing
>>62470422>brainlet cant beat basic bitch control decks
>>62476450Jace is so unbelievably early 2000s faux-manga in his design.
>>62484294>never met a storm play who wasnt a douchbagTake that and replace storm with miracles for me.
>>62484294The hawaiian guy would play the version with blue in it.
>>62484294you're thinking as an angry mtg player and not as a show creatoras antagonists, these people need elaborate designs and THEME
Dumb muscle guy>deck full lof fat green beasts, doesn't play any enchantment, instants and sorceries because it's too complex for himSkinny nerd with giant glasses and blue clothes>plays artifacts and blue phyrexians cardsCocky rival with sunglasses>black lotus x4 and some OP cards limited in 1 examplar in the world, rich as fuckLove interest number 1, tsundere childhood friend>shitty fairy deckLove interest number 2, pure blonde girl, always kind and mentally weak>mono white angel deckRed haired hyperactive guy, can't speak in low tone for some reasons>plays cancer blastMighty mentor, insist on playing honorably, never cheat, etc>knight deck, Fat manlet sidekick, friendly dude but dumb as fuck, never win his matches, serve as support for the main character>plays shitty insectsRandom weeboo wearing a samurai armor and a plastic katana, even when he sleep>always plays kamigawa cards and talk about seppuku each time he lose
>>62485519And you need to match these personalities with the personality of the decks and how they play, not just the namesake card or mechanic. I guess I should concede ANT's though. ANT's is about obsessively working towards and Ad Nausuam, so I guess you could shape it into some nervous schizophrenic playing the entire game to make it to play the namesake card>>62485422That makes sense. I think a guy in a pro tour was playing 12 post with MLP sleeves on camera>>62485335Every miracles player I played with was just silent as a rock. And said nothing. No gg or hello. Just silence. However the gameplan is about interaction, yet strictly no fun allowed
>>62486728>And you need to match these personalities with the personality of the decks and how they playnot really, noWe already established that this can't play fully by the rules, and that bending the rules for dramatic purposes makes for a better experience overallmaybe starting from teck types was a wrong idea, and the characters should focus more on themes ?
>>62488105i disagree, the one thing i hated about ygo was random 1 off top decks in what was supposed to be a super competitive setting.I much like the characters tied to deck idea better.
>>62453776>playing MTG with each other and learning about friendship.Why would you lie about the hobby like that, anon?
>>62463025He decides to level up and instead of playing Jund he plays Naya.
>>62470282Who's the guy that plays Kavu Cure decks then?
>>62476533>ascribing gender to an upper dimensional being
>>62491744And yet you post that in response to the original "he" but the person who corrected them.
>>62453776I would watch this as I think it could be hilarious.I feel it would have to go into tropes though, whenever a game happens, you could flash into imagination land and see them as Planeswalkers fighting each other for your epic shonen battle stuff.Cut back to classroom, loser has cards spilled over the desk, holding head in disbelief sort of thing.Also one of the best friends has to start out as some sort of skeezy card dealer who deals in fakes and jacked up prices until they're called out on their bullshit, see the error of their ways and join the main gang.I feel there should also be a feel good filler episode.>Main protag is upgrading deck with sweet new boosters.>Unsleeving old cards, sleeving up new ones.>Each card has a memory of a game or friend he met along the way.>Finds it hard to tool his deck to be efficient due to emotional attachment.>Gets an idea and makes a 'Friend EDH Deck' or such so that they will always have a place in the game, only his most treasured cards go into this deck once they're done from being played competitively.>End scene with the ghosts of his cards surrounding the main protag and his new 'Friends Deck' smiling and remembering the good times.
>>62491600some old voodoo magic man.
What's the armband that they're gonna make into a toy gonna look like?
the thing about card game animes is that they (usually) have this weird fucked up relationship where they exist to promote each otherA Magic anime, if done in the same general manner as other card game animes, would either have to get a massive cast or massively overhaul card and set design, as cards and groups of cards tend to get connected with characters (as in "hey do you wanna have a deck like [character]? buy packs of our newest set, out now")
>>62454194Yes. Too bad a lot of people don't know about it's origins.
>>62453776Sorry for my ignorance, but what's the sauce of OP's Image?
>>62494859if wotc was hands off about it, then it wouldn't matter.>tfw you'll never have an anime that starts with lea and vintage into a timeskip to legacy, to a timeskip to modern
>>62478476After School Dice Club
Which archetype anime character should be running Myrs?
>>62499960The gearhead who loves taking things apart and putting them together. Myrs are her little servitors, and she has one for EVERY occasion.
>>62500204The "practical braniac," to put it one way.
>>62499960fuck, I want a myr guy now
daily reminder that all anime is always tg related no matter what
>>62453776>K-ON! dj - If The Light Music Club Played Magic: The GatheringNo need to thank me anon, just ignore all the shonen kids in this thread.
>>62455480>For no reasonWizards has said that the only thing preventing Urza from becoming the Father of Machines himself was that Yawgmoth did it first.
>>62453776I think it would be better with Commander since you get to play with pet cards and it would hit a wider array of decks. Like Yugi had Dark Magician and Kaiba had Blue eyes. The protagonist would probably play a "fair" deck maybe some kind of tribal, I could see wizard tribal. His best friend would play some janky combo deck or tough guy ramp or a combination like Gitrog. Love interest would play something like cat tribal or maybe Mirri voltron/angel tribal maybe like Avacyn control. Queen bee or student president would run Queen Marchesa. Teacher would play Tim deck.
>>62501876>Protagoist>WizardCmon. Wizard tribal are only played by assholes. If Protagonist had to play anything, it would be, in commander, it should be from one of the preconstructed commander sets. Everyone else should be playing brews.Best friend should be playing Zurgo Helmsmasher.Love interest should be playing Iona staxRival should play some form of Ghave combo or Tasigur ComboTeacher should play Reki, the History of Kamigawa
>>62484628>even when you win it still tastes badThere is no winning against control decks.
>>62454048>"Does it cost all of the lands you just tapped?"Is there anyone who taps more lands than they need to at the time? Unless you are tapping tron lands, every card you cast is going to cast all the lands you tapped.
>>62453776>college kids>in an animeSilly Anon, everyone knows that "college" is anime's euphemism for "executed for being too old." It's a Logan's Run type of deal. There is literally nobody in anime between the ages of 19 and 40.
>>62502402This is a 40 y.o. mother.Say something nice to her!
>>62502525>w-Wanna play magic?
>>62502525You look exactly like all anime girls are mandated to look, i.e., like 14-year-old jailbait.
>>62502591No, this is believable because of asian genes.
>>62502102I sometimes do it to make my one friend who plays control think that there's a second card coming and will choose to ignore my first spell to counter the second one that I never actually play.
>>62470282This is the best idea. Toss in the lands player as a rich, white bearded oldfag. Delver would be the best protag just because the core is usually the same, and your rival should be someone who constantly runs shitbrews that somehow win (think of the spice lists that pop up on mtgo 5-0 occasionally)
>>62454048HAHAHAHA this is what control fags believe.
>>62454048HA you have activated my TRAP CARD!
>>62502001>Love interest should be playing Iona staxJesus Christ, do you want everyone to hate this girl? Although, having a girl stax you the whole game and make fun of you with a smug smile could be really sexy.>Zurgo smashYeah, I could see this as a proper best friend deck. The protagonist needs to have gotten his deck from a father figure like a big brother, uncle, gramps, etc. Maybe Allies without food chain.
>>62454612>Pshh - nothin' personnel, kidAre you sure this isn't the correct flavour text of this card?
>>62503115>do you want everyone to hate this girl?Yes because Childhood friend should be the real winner of his heart with a five color slivers deck
>>62453776Protag plays midrange, best friend plays aggro, rival plays control.
>>625045105 color slivers is boring. Childhood friend should have a more genki deck like trying to make boros work with Tajic or Gisela. Too bad those decks always lose, like her love life.
>>62504866Then how bout Kiki Jiki w/o combo
>>62502402I've seen at least two manga with characters going to college.
>>62502402Teachers are almost all between 19 and 40.
>>62453776Here it is. Better than anything else, show wise and game wise.
>>62505601Where were you when the /tg/ and /a/ threads needed to be bumped
>>62454427I agree with this, you could give personality to the different Legendary creatures and whatnot.
>>62457241B/R/U and his signature card is Nicol Bolas.
>>62454427Could also work pretty well. Lends itself more to the random one offf top deck moments.
>>62502624>20 y/o more attractive than 12 y/oall is right in the world
>>62481622They wouldn't stand a ghost of a chance.
>>62455821Dudes play magic on Earth. Maybe even get into a FNM standard tournament or something.Dudes become Planeswalkers, gotta stop Nikol Bolas like it's a rite of passage.Dudes planeswalk to different planes you know and love. Maybe add in a Planeswalker/commander tournament arc that spans all the planes.Dudes discover, enrage, and gotta stop, the Eldrazi menace from killing all the planes including Earth.
>>62454048>implying that would not be amazing