Genuinely asking to stat her, wondering what you can come up with the masochism thingAny system will do
>>62415310Just max her toughness or constitution and whatever stat neutralizes fear.
>>62415367How do you balance the whole "pain/humiliation makes me stronger" thing?
>>62415310I statted her in MAID when we had a thread for the whole group, guess I'll just post that againTypes: Heroine x2Qualities: Masochist & ArmourPower: Immune to PainRoots: Self-PunishmentStress Explosion: CryingStatsAthletics 4Affection 3Cunning 0Skill 0Luck 0Will 6
>>62415310>read about the character and the seriesHoly shit, this is like what I imaginne would happen if you took one of those nonconsciouss p-zombie aliens popular in harder science finction recently and made it to generate stories for humans to enjoy while only giving it hentai and fanfiction.net as the learning dataset.
>>62415412You don't, you rp it.
>>62415432This is actually a nice answer
>>62415310Size/Type: Large Magical SubHit Dice: 5d10+50 (100 hp)Initiative: +1Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares)Armor Class: 20 (-1 size, -1 Dex, +5 natural), touch 10, flat-footed 21Base Attack/Grapple: +5/+14Attack: delicate fists +9 melee (1d6+5)Full Attack: 1 sword -9 melee (1d6-9) and charge +7 melee (1d8-7)Space/Reach: 10 ft./5 ft.Special Attacks: Improved MissSpecial Qualities: Maximised BlockSaves: Fort +9, Ref +1, Will +2Abilities: Str 5, Dex 8, Con 200, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 16Skills: Bloodied Arousal +8, Heavy Armor +15Feats: Lewdness, BlockEnvironment: Temperate forestsOrganization: Solitary, pair, or pack (3-8)Challenge Rating: 4Treasure: DD-cupAlignment: Always neutralAdvancement: 6-8 HD (Large); 9-15 HD (Huge)Level Adjustment: —
>>62415310Statting her for DnD 5ebecause somebody has so that anti-DnD guys can have a cloud to yell at.Except I am lazy so I am just going to say that probably high WIS as to have the mental faculties to not run away from pain and high CON to withstand it. CHA and STR are average, DEX is as low as it gets and INT is debatable to even exist.
>>62415412Does it actually make her stronger? Does it matter when she can't hit for shit?Berserker type classes then could work (Battle trance or Bloody berserker from Strike! for example).
>>62415445>Abilities: Str 5, Dex 8, Con 200, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 16>Abilities: Str 14, Dex 9, Con 20, Int 11, Wis 11, Cha 14Fixed.>>62415459I think average intelligence would be fine, though. Comparing her to other characters in the series, that's it.
>>62415468In D&D she's unstattable as she's technically strong but can't hit for shit, which breaks Strength as the To-Hit-With-Melee-Weapons mechanic.She's just all Constitution, just a giant ball of Constitution with big constitution tits flopping off it.
>>62415422Konosuba is actually pretty funny, it's very self aware
>>62415499Nah see she is using weapon finesse to dex to hit but her dex is garbo.
requesting complete stat sheet, either pathfinder or d&d 5th or whatever if you already have one
>>62415415>Cunning 0>Skill 0>Luck 0sounds about right
>>62415513This. Konosuba has no illusions about the fact that its characters are terrible people. The comedy comes from their interactions. The plot is almost nonexistent, and is mainly an excuse for these four to still be in contact with each other. Konosuba can basically be summed up as 'generic isekai protagonist gets sent to fantasy world to kill the demon king, refuses to leave the starting town because its safer there. Does low level adventures for drinking money by teaming up with a couple of other weirdos that no one else wants to deal with.'Darkness herself is actually, weirdly, the most nuanced character of the bunch. Here you have this high-brow noble lady from a prestigious family who goes into the honorable profession of a lady crusader to hep the people of the realm. She actually takes her job really seriously when other people are in danger, and is perfectly willing to put herself in harms way to save others,Unfortunately, it turns out that she is a HUGE masochist into pain and degradation. And when there isn't a situation that requires her to put on her serious face, she sort of lets her fantasies run wild to the point that more than one enemy has actually retreated from a fight because Darkness just made this way too weird for them. One of the best sequences in the show involves her getting demonically possessed, and the demon quickly realizes that their whole plan is fucked sideways because Darkness is so singleminded in her weird obsessions that they keep losing control over her, she actually has more than enough willpower to resist the possession entirely. But they can't leave her and possess someone else because Darkness is so into the idea of being demonically possessed and forced to do stuff 'against her will' that she is actually keeping him from leaving. Aka: Demon accidentally enters Darkness's magical realm and is unable to claw his way back out.
>>62415438IMO, its the best answer, mechanics get in the way of good rp many times and sticking to them will hinder your experience.Its adult pretend and sotrytelling. Tell stories, play pretend. Visit one of our many wargaming generals if you want mechanics to be the end all be all of your game.
>>62415524She doesn't use a finess weapon
What is that thing on her left shoulder?
>>62417587Looks like some kind of guard or bracer for the upper arm.
>>62415412>How do you balance the whole "pain/humiliation makes me stronger" thing?3.5e Tome of Battle crusaders. They literally get stronger the more you harm them. Also darkness is strong and cute and she has a nice body and I want to feel her silky smooth, clean and soft armpit pussy.
>>62417587>>62417686So, her left is a rerebrace, a little on the small side since it doesnt actually go to the elbow.Her right is a stylized pauldron of some kind. A little too ornate for my tastes, but considering magic gear is a thing its hard to rely purely on looks for actual defense value.IIRC, Darkness's armor is actually some kind of adamantine-esq dense supermetal of the setting. Though Im pretty sure she just naturally has enough defense skills that she could tank most stuff naked.If anyone would put their points into making sure that they can take a lot of punishment naked, its Darkness. Thats not even, like, innuendo or something. Thats just who she is.
>>62417587I stylized pauldron made to resemble the shoulder things on the god she worships whose name I can't currently remember
>>62415310Exalted has a martial art style about that. Actually, I think it has several.
>>62415412It doesn't make her stronger, though. She just REALLY gets off to it.
>>62415412look at this fuckin secondary, her stats and skills have nothing to do with her being a huge pervert
>>62415422It's a parody of the usual "some nobody gets whisked away to a fantasy world, gathers a harem of cute girls who fight for his affection, and becomes a great hero" isekai plot, only in this case the nobody's a pervy teenager with no hidden power or much going for him aside from above average intelligence and a high luck stat, and the girls in the harem aren't actually interested in him, constantly give him shit, and are all varying degrees of "not especially competent."
>>62418592Not just that, but Kazuma for his part breaks from the mold of the harem lead. Most harem leads are dense as lead about any romantic advance, Kazuma is as you said a huge pervert. However, despite his perversion, he isn't actually interested in any of the main girls. Aqua is literally too stupid for him to consider in a romantic light even if her body is nice, he compares her to an animal. Megumin is chunni, which might not be a deal breaker, but also way too young for Kazuma and in his own words even he has standards.And Darkness is like his idea woman physically, but her kinks are just so over the line for him that while he might fantasize about her the reality of actually doing anything with her is just a terrible idea and he knows it.
>>62418592>are all varying degrees of "not especially competent."they're all pretty powerful, they just have something that renders it pointless>Aqua is probably one of the strongest divine caster in the show so far, but she's an idiot so she's still useless>Darkness' stats are amazing and she's the only character we've seen tank a direct hit from an explosion spell, but she lets herself get beaten up because she gets off on it>Megumin is a very powerful wizard, but she only knows and constantly boosts one spell
>>62418012Actually, I think playing Exalted is masochism.
>>62415684I also think she and Kazuma would be sweet together.The whole fight thing to get out of the arranged marriage showed how perfect they were for each other.And of course that marriage was great, because of her hating the fiancé for being a nice guy, and not the sort of person to mistreat or degrade her.
>>62418905Let's not forget that when Kazuma ordered a succ wet dream, he wasn't even surprised when Darkness showed up. Other than being fucked in the head, she's Kazuma's ideal woman.
>>62418905I honestly think that the original plan was for Darkness to grow into the primary love interest role for Kazuma over time, a subversion having the last girl introduced be the romantic lead rather than the first one. She and Kazuma have a lot more meaningful personal interactions early on than the other characters, and at different times Kazuma admits that Darkness is almost his ideal girl and Darkness claims that a trashy person like Kazuma is just what she wants in a husband. And that whole fake marriage thing.Of course, over time, Megumin gets moved into the main girl role as a result of character popularity.
>>62418244Yeah but she enjoys it, so it keeps her going and motivated
>>62418930Which makes her my ideal woman. Dibs, just because nobody actually said it yet
>>62420159Go for it. Eris is the superior waifu anyway, even if she does pad her chest
>>62417972Eris. (image is an artist's interpretation)
>>62420253>>62420266It's pretty easy for Eris to be the best girl when her biggest character flaw is that she's a little too zealous in her persecution of undead, and the vast majority of undead that aren't Wiz deserve it anyway.
One Roll Engine>Defend(Enjoys it)>>62415684Honestly the worst part about Konosoba right now is the fact that it just doesn't do anything with the characters that I've already fallen in love with. They're great. Now I actually want to see them go on an adventure and develop. I'm getting tired of the same punchline to every joke. But that seems to be the Japanese way when it comes to humour.
>>62415499LG Dragonborn (mind) Mongrelfolk Commoner 1/Survivor 6Feats: Improved ToughnessFlaws: Noncombatant, ShakyEquipment: Mountain Plate, Chahar-Aina, DastanaBAB +0, takes a -2 flaw penalty on all attack rolls, takes a -4 nonproficiency penalty with all weapons except sickles, takes a combined -11 penalty for wearing armor items she's not proficient with. You can take it further by making the armor out of special materials that increase their ACP.At the same time she has a +6 racial Constitution modifier, DR 5/-, Uncanny Dodge and Improved Evasion
>>62415459I think she could work as a barbarian with the rage refluffed as pain-lust.
>>62418850How would other overspecialized classes work?>a ranger that can one-hit kill anything "x", but is utter trash at fighting anything else>a perverted rogue who likes to get into trouble so she can break her way out of it>a TF2 Medic-tier alchemist who likes to test her concoctions on her party without their knowledge or consent>a glass cannon warrior who insists on wielding a high-density superpowered hammer rather than something practical; at one point, she launches an immortal and indestructible foe into space.>a mage overspecialized in metamagic, i.e. doesn't know a single "real" spell, but is very useful in bypassing enchantments, sabotaging magical artifacts, and countering and/or altering spells
>>62422227>A paladin that can inspire others to go beyond their limits, but doesn't actually know the first thing about fighting or leadership.
>>62422311>a shaman with a very lazy, but very powerful spirit animal; she's otherwise ok in a fight and in wilderness survival, but that's it; a very naggy and incessant personality as a result of having to put so much effort into making her spirit animal do shit>a fallen paladin who is unaware (or possibly in-denial if you refuse to believe someone is that up their own ass) that she has never gained favor from her deity to begin with; a massive hypocrite with a self-righteous attitude; occasionally, her deity gives her power if they determine it's for the greater good>a fallen (fired) paladin (cops with armor and magic granted by the government) with a hot trigger-finger for smiting; somehow is able to smite despite being revoked; almost always jumps to conclusions; possibly misandric
>>62415422The premise isn't meant to be taken seriously. It's a little like reading the premise of Always Sunny, a show konosuba is often compared to otherwise.
12 Str, 20 con, 12 int, 12 Wis (she's not an actual idiot like aqua and when not distracted by her fetishes she's reasonable, had a Noble's upbringing and education), 8 Dex, 16 Cha,
>>62424617>12 STRThe big problem with stating Lalatina in D&D is that her melee attacks actually do a ton of damage, she just can't hit anything. So she should have really high Str, just a ton of penalties to her attack rolls. Somehow.
>>62424860I tried experimenting with a one-shot session where attack rolls were always determined by DEX, and damage rolls were always determined by STR. That way it would give a reason for players to build up both stats instead of focusing entirely on one or the other. It didn't work nearly as well as I had hoped, but I think it could still work with some refinements.
>>62425030>That way it would give a reason for players to build up both statsIt would also make martials pretty much useless. Str>Con>DexCan do damage and survive okay, but can't actually hit anythingDex>Con>StrCan hit stuff but can't do much damageDex>Str>Con or Str>Dex>ConYou can hit and do damage but you won't have as many hit pointsFor 5e GWM would make sense (-5 to hit roll +10 damage), but IIRC her sword is one-handed, in which case I would just homebrew the feat to include one-handed weapons. Give her 20 strength and her attack rolls will be +0 (ignoring proficiency because not sure of her level equivalent) while each hit would do 1d8+15 damage.
>>62424860Does 5e have anything like the old power attack, which let you boost damage at a reduced chance to hit?
>>62415310>I'm serious this time guys!!>No system
>>62415310Lalatina is actually pretty OP, she's just heavily autistic. When she was mind-controlled by an actually competent demon she was slicing through fucking boulders with her sword and throwing around trained adventurers like toys. She almost broke a man's arms just by squeezing too hard, granted he's a dyel twink but you get the idea. Darkness would be nothing to fuck with if she wasn't so goddamn retarded.
>>62425165the feat Great Weapon Master allows you to take a -5 penalty to hit in exchange for a +10 bonus to dame with heavy or two-handed weapons, among other things.
>>62424860Maybe she has the equivalent of an ability that says she is ALWAYS fighting defensively, and cant turn it off? Seems like a Darkness thing to do, -4 attack for a permanent +2 AC.Combo that with some feats to buff fighting defensively, and you end up with "I cant hit shit, but nothing can hurt me either"
>>62420266ERIS PADS HER CHEST
Eris is second best girl after Megumin
>>62430920>likes the two flattest girls in the showI mean okay, Eris has an alright ass but still
>>62418850For a second I dyslexic'd and read Darkness as Megumin.>Megumin's stats are amazing and she's the only character we've seen tank a direct hit from an explosion spell, but she lets herself get beaten up because she gets off on it>Masochistic absurdly high constitution Wizard Megumin.
>>62431013Oh I forgot the most important part. >Masochistic loli absurdly high constitution wizard Megumin.
>>62431013>>62431036While obviously not Megumin, the idea of a caster being actually kind of an awful caster because they keep investing in self-defense buffs instead of spells would be kind of a funny character concept. "Wizard, we need a fireball to clear out these orcs.""I can't do that.""Well, what can you do?"*Wizard casts Ironskin on himself, followed by Supreme Mage Armor*"How the fuck does that help, wizard?""What are you talking about? Im totally safe right now.""...fuck you, wizard."
>>62432471>gets fastball special'd into the middle of the crowd with a ton of TNT tied to him
>>62432487I mean, if the wizard is still built like Megumin you can basically just carry her around and use her as a yelling, flailing shield. Dragon breath attack? Hide behind the little girl.
>>62425379Ah, so she'd definitely have that.That way she wouldn't even necessarily have a high strength, and if she's a barbarian (zealot?) then she's also got rage for when she's really turned on.That way she can do a lot of damage, but usually won't be able hit things.
>>62432540Imagine the possibilities of the Iron MagiLoli.>as mentioned, use her as a flailing, shouting shield against incoming attacks, because practically anything that hits her just bounces right off>Need a distraction? Toss her at the town guards/whoever's chasing you while you escape, because it's a safe bet everything will be fine>go to get her from whatever dungeon she's in a week later, only to find the torturer hung himself in despair after being unable to hurt her in any fashion>use her as a battering ram because her skull is indestructible - she doesn't need a knock on the head reducing her INT.>Just toss her into the lake to explore for secret entrances to the castle or whatever you're trying to infiltrate - of course she has water breathing, she's got like 4 STR, she can't friggin' swim, what if something happened?!>all her points are in CON, because she's actually terrible at magic except for self-buffing her defenses like this>zero actual pain tolerance due to being Fucking Invincible, so even a mosquito bite against unshielded skin reduces her to rolling on the floor hollering and pitching a fit
>>62415459Crown Paladin defense fighting style. Shes a classic mmo tank with a taunt and serves her family and eris. Pally also has wis save proficiencies. Shes strong but not accurate so have GWM constantly turned on. Add con save proficiency as your level 4 feat or something. Dump dex.
>>62433006Keep going anon, this is great.
>>62424159>"I won't cause any trouble blowing up this abandoned castle over and over.">Megumin starts a war.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idoYCVLh2qI
>>62425379Only Heavy weapons. It's just that all the Heavy weapons are twohanded anyhow.
>>62415422It's satire, like Kill la Kill.
>>62415310D&D 3.5 Crusader Class focused on the Devoted Spirit and White Raven disciplines. Ask for DM permission to trade out one feat for a permanent effect of the Masochism spell from the Book of Vile Darkness (hah). This grants +1 to most d20 checks in the round after you take damage, scaling at +1 per 10 points of damage. Crusader also gets a mechanic known as Steely Resolve, allowing them to delay the effect of a certain amount of damage in a round, granting a +1 bonus to attacks and damage in the round after they sink the damage. It starts out delaying 5 points and granting +1 at first level and caps out at 30 points of damage for +6 at Twentieth level.Overall result, if Darkness hits 20th level and gets smacked with a Harm spell (150 Damage, fort-save for half) she could potentially get +6 from Steely Resolve and +12 from masochism to come out to +18 to fuckup whoever or whatever hit her, assuming she failed her saving throw for half. Alternatively, +6 from Steely Resolve and +7 from Masochism if she makes it.In addition, the Devoted Spirit discipline of Martial Maneuvers (Weeaboo fightan techniques) is the paladin-ish one that lets you heal and protect your allies (which Darkness was devoted to in principle), while White Raven is usually about trying to charge in, leading the attack, and helping your allies to achieve victory rather than getting the killing blow yourself. You Can use Devoted Spirit to heal yourself as well, turning you into a damage-cycling constitution tank that sinks damage for your allies and draws enemy fire at every opportunity.After that, nab the bodyguard feats that also help you jump into the path of danger for your allies.
>>62434415> the party realizes that the wizard girl is functionally invulnerable to harm> instead of checking for traps, they just let her walk in front at a safe distance so she can trigger every trap> correction: they MAKE her walk in front at a safe distance, because she very much does not like being in harms way, if she didnt have an obsession over her personal safety she wouldnt have so much magic dedicated to it. > Eventually she kind of comes around to the idea, confident in her ability to tank any damage. Just cheerfully skipping through waves of poison darts that bounce off of her, swinging hammers that break themselves on her face, and fireball traps that dont accomplish anything more than a sulphur-y smell> and then, just when everyone is taking her invulnerability for granted, a simple pit trap drops her into the bottom of a deep hole and no one brought rope. She's invulnerable but still at the bottom of a deep hole, and she can't climb out and holy shit where are you guys going dont you dare leave COME BACK YOU MOTHERFU-
>>62425030The system hackmaster uses something like this, attack to hit rolls are influenced by your dex as well as intelligence, albeit to a smaller degree. Damage is still strength.
>>62422227>>62431036>>62432471>>62432487>>62432540>>62433006>>62436116I'm stealing this for my setting, thanks.
>>62422227To add on to the alchemist>an unlicensed alchemist, so here business is technically not illegal, it's illegitimate; good thing the town has no other shops that specialize in chemicals>her specialty potion is a healing potion that heals purely through placebo; it's just slightly spicy water that she passes off as a legitimate recovery potion>pays the party to test her potions; she supervises them, often outright using the test concoction herself, so that she sees the results herself>uses actual glass rather that special glass, so throwing it really hurts; her throwable potions often times have glass too thick to shatter, which is especially bad when her intent is to heal and ally>thinks ethics are for chumpsTo add on to the rogue>has no respect for others' privacy>is REALLY into bondage; while not masochistic like Darkness, she does get off to being detained, restrained, isolated, and even being tortured or put in some sort of peril (though she doesn't get off from the pain itself but from someone having power over her)>she's an extremely good escape artist, but not that great at stealing; she doesn't really care about stealing anyways, just looking through pocketsTo add to the mage>has a massive inferiority complex and a hatred for sorcerers>despite being a dropout, she managed to find her skills in appraisal and de-cursing>is actually extremely knowledgeable about magic, which is why she is so successful at making enemy magic users useless by sabotaging their spells or stopping them from casting>can destroy, suppress, and even enhance enchantments>the reason that she can't cast real spells are she's lazy and couldn't adapt when she stopped doing perfectly in the academy
>>62437528We should come up with an individually crap but together strong set of overspecialists in the vein of Konosuba. No more than 5 people tops, its an adventuring party not a whole goddamn guild. I think unbreakable witch girl is a shoe-in, considering. The tank that really isn't supposed to be the tank.Alchemist works as well, and can fill in as the healer role. Cutting edge powerful potions and poisons, but with unreliable side effects and occasional surprises in your coffee. I feel like we can do something better than the thief, who will just come off as variant darkness, and we need some kind of actual fighter because witch girl is pure defense and alchemist is more utility and heals.
>>62437815The thief girl is actually very bad at appraisal, meaning the items she steals are actually worthless while she thinks they're worth a lot. She's actually quite the history buff though.>No really, these scratchings here indicate that these were once used by the Gruk'tar'ikh tribe of Orcs that existed hundreds of years ago!>No, these are forks used by someone who doesn't take care of their cutlery.>But at least they're made of silver!>That's steel. And not the good stuff.
>>62415482Change that Str to 12 and Char to 16. She is a noble after all, but she also hits like... well, a girl. A girl that is trained in stance and swordsmanship, but a girl nonetheless.
>>62422391I have some friends who played a super janky D20 future game with a character like that. He could give monstrous bonuses by commanding and inspiring people but was only okay as a combatant himself.
>>62425030A lot of non D&D systems do this. Like Shadowrun, Exalted, WoD, and many others.
>>62437815A warrior who is incredibly competent in combat, but only against one type of creature. Anything else and he might as well be a rookie with a training sword.
>>62425030For DnD characters just don't have enough ability points to justify that if they use any of the recommended methods, but it's pretty common is just about every other system. There's also stuff like Dark Heresy where the "attack roll" is just its own stat
>>62438554Ah, like Naive/Effector T-Cell.
>>62438091she can slice boulders in half and throw adventurers around like ragdolls, she has more than 12 strength
>>62438554Or even worse, only against one specific person.
>>62439352>the warrior who has been trained since infancy to combat the Supreme Demon Overlord. He's been trained extensively to know how to fight this one specific person>If he were to finally engage the Supreme Demon Overlord, he'd be nigh-unstoppable and easily defeat them no matter what kind of reality rending spells they futilely throw at him>unfortunately, the clan who spent at least 20 years training him forgot to teach him how to fight literally anything else that isn't the Supreme Demon Overlord
>>62439295It would probably be easiest mechanically to just say she somehow lacks the weapon proficiency or always has disadvantage on attacks or something, but there's not really a way to specifically build that without getting kind of elaborate
>>62439403>warrior constantly asks the party to go forward to the Demon Overlord's cathedral so that he can fulfill his life's mission, but the party is constantly sidetracked by sidequests, much to his dismay
>>62437815The thief is supposed to be relatively competent, but often gets herself in trouble, and occasionally drags the party down with her. She doesn't play the role of a tank but a beater in combat. The problem with her fighting skills is that she is overly aggressive and reckless due to her addiction to adrenaline. Outside of battle she is used to infiltrate and unlock places, as well as deal with traps and hazards. Some of her methods of disarming traps is to simply let herself get caught in them and escape.>>62437937That's a good idea.
>>62439489*relatively competent at some of what she does, including combat
>>62437815>The sequestered prince from a small, isolated country who underwent training in an academy with the most cutting edge fighting tactics...three centuries ago. His prowess in combat is thus lacking in any application in modern times. Furthermore he will assert that his kingdom has the best fighters the world has ever seen and is known throughout the land, when in reality it basically amasses to a third-world country cosplaying as a major super power. Any notion that says otherwise will result in him having tantrums that boosts his strength to insane levels and can only be calmed when singing the national anthem of his kingdom.
>>62415310Darkness: KramerMegumin: GeorgeAqua: ElaineKazuma: Jerry
>>62415310Paladin. Remove BAB. High as fuck con
>>62439577I'm gonna risk samefagging and add a secret holy weapon unique to his people.
>>62415367paladins get fear immunity, so she's high CON paladin; so, any paladin
>>62415412you don't, because she doesn't get stronger, pain just makes her arousedshe takes damage the same as anyone else, she's tanky because of high AC, con, hit dice, the same as any other tank
>>62417224lmao rp fags
>>62417381she took a feat that changes str for int to hit with all weapons, and her int is 1
>>62419006which doesn't make her stronger
>>62424860high str but uses int to hit
>>62415310She's actually honest to god a Crusader from Tome of Battle. High defense, wants to get hit for extra offensive power, wears heavy armor.
>>62444255>she took a feat that changes str for int to hit with all weapons, and her int is 1in-universe, Aqua is stated as having "below average intelligence" and is clearly the dumbest member of the party so my guess is Darkness is average
>>62447024In Konosuba world stats go from 1-100.Aqua has an especially extreme Int of 2.Darkness isn't just average, she's somewhat above. She's been highly educated as part of her noble upbringing and there's a couple of scenes where it shows. It would come up more often if she wasn't constantly daydreaming and fantasizing.
>>62448447Intelligence-wise I'd rate them as Darkness > Kazuma > Megumin >>>>> Aqua.
>>62415624>Total EMMU becomes the crusader for a callous cunt who abuses her in ways she never thought possible>Luck 0Sounds like Luck 99 to me.
>>62418965Even the author fell for the Megumeme, JUST AS PLANNED
>>62448776>I "learned" to "draw" by tracing anime
>>62417224Serious question: have you tried not playing D&D? There are games where "mechanics" is not utterly synonymous with "combat rules", and from your post it seems like you would really enjoy them.
>>62438554I could see that working. Like a ranger who just has 'magical beast' as their favored enemy taken a bajillion times. If you leave the actual favored enemy a vague term, like magical beast, you open room for comedy as to the particulars of what constitutes a magical beast. Human? Obviously not a magical beast.Giant bug? Sadly not a magical beastDragon? Okay thats technically not a magical beast sorry guys.Owlbear? FUCK YEAH THATS A MAGICAL BEASTNormal bear? Help please someone helpKaiju? FUCK YEAH THATS A MAGICAL BEASTAnd so on.
>>62449784> facing the evil dark wizard, its an uphill battle> "Fools! You are too late. MY ascension IS. AT. HAAAAAAAAND! BEHOLD MY NEW POWER!"> Dark wizard transforms into a building sized horrifying multi-headed snake thing. > "Tremble, puny mortals, for I have surpassed the chains of humanity!"> Reaction shot of every member of the party as they are horrified by how outmatched they are.> Last reaction is of the ranger, in stunned silence, broken by a "YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!"> wat> "I dont know what that is, BUT ITS A MAGICAL BEAST."
>>62415310Huh. It's genuinely hard to make Darkness in D&D, due to the way hitting works. She canonically has insane STR and CON but abysmal DEX, which is why she can't hit anything. But D&D is retarded and makes STR the "hit stuff" stat for most weapons, including the ones she uses.
>>62449744lol story fags
>>62449963she uses INT to hit and has low INT
>>62450052But that's not how D&D works. Furthermore, she can't hit stuff because of her low DEX.
Gonna steal a few of these ideas for a CYOA
>>62424860She lacks proficiency with any weapons but oddly enough she's a great grapler.Despite being a paladin she also lacks magic of any sort.Kinda like she's just an ordinary noble with a really strong body but lacks/refuses training.
>>62415310>ClassHuman Fighter, Level 8>SubclassBrute>BackgroundNoble>AbilitiesSTR18 DEX8 CON20 INT14 WIS10 CHA14>FeatsGreat Weapon Master, Tough, Heavy Armour Master>EquipmentGreatsword, Full Plate, Obscene MoneyYes, I'm aware she's her setting's equivalent of a paladin, but she can't cast spells or invoke divinity, so she counts as a fighter here. In order for this build to work the player must use Great Weapon Master whenever able, making it extremely unlikely that she'll hit anything but the slowest of enemies. They must also make lewd noises whenever the DM rolls damage against them.
>>62437815Trap-obsessed thief. They are actually something of a mechanical genius, able to not just detect traps but determine how even the most complex trap functions. They can even build their own. They have more than enough skill to dismantle one.However, they can't bring themselves to break a 'truly spectacular' trap mechanism. Their respect for the craftsmanship is just too high. You can probably extend this to them having an incredible knowledge and respect for dungeon design in general, making him useful even outside of trap centric situations. He might be party leader, it would explain why they keep taking dungeon missions.
>>62449744>D&D is LITERALLY the only system with this issue
>>62450654well, we don't really talk that much about other bad systems
>>62448776>sister of battle darkness
Size/Type: Medium Humanoid (Goblinoid)Hit Dice: 3d8+3 (16 hp)Initiative: +1Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares)Armor Class: 17 (+1 Dex, +3 natural, +2 leather armor, +1 light wooden shield), touch 11, flat-footed 16Base Attack/Grapple: +2/+4Attack: Morningstar +5 melee (1d8+2) or javelin +3 ranged (1d6+2)Full Attack: Morningstar +5 melee (1d8+2) or javelin +3 ranged (1d6+2)Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.Special Attacks: —Special Qualities: Darkvision 60 ft., scentSaves: Fort +2, Ref +4, Will +1Abilities: Str 15, Dex 12, Con 13, Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 9Skills: Climb +3, Hide +4, Listen +4, Move Silently +6, Spot +4Feats: Alertness, Weapon Focus (morningstar)Environment: Temperate mountainsOrganization: Solitary, gang (2-4), or band (11-20 plus 150% noncombatants plus 2 2nd-level sergeants and 1 leader of 2nd-5th level)Challenge Rating: 2Treasure: StandardAlignment: Usually chaotic evilAdvancement: By character classLevel Adjustment: +1
>>62417823A man of culture, I see.
>>62449529>drawing based off anime>not expecting it to look like animemade me reply/10
>>62453291Read again. The problem is not that it looks like anime; in fact, it doesn't, which is a result of the actual problem: learning to draw by tracing anime.
>>62450254>She cant cast spells or invoke divinityShe has a taunt mechanic like every online MMO. Everything points to Oath of the crown paladin
>>62424860On the other hand in GURPS it is easy. Drop all points in strength, daamge powers, damage reduction and protection from magic. And a single point in combat skill. She is never going to hit anyone with even modicum of ability but her attacks would be devastating.
>>62448776>Megumin Inquisitor?>Kazuma IG commander?>darknesssister of battle>aqua ?????
>>62450301the recurring joke would probably be the thief explaining the trap gushing about it, then the fighter holding her down while the barbarian breaks it
>>62422227>Warlock who made deals with multiple patrons for more power, but the combination of rules from his contracts make it difficult for him to actually cast spells
>>62454715Aqua'd probably be an Eldar in 40k.Make Kazuma the radical Inquisitor with his SoB Darkness, Aqua the Farseer, and Megumin the Psyker.
>>62454866Probably doing so because otherwise the thief would trigger it.Because everyone knows the best time to admire the trap is when it's being set off.And of course, if they happen to find a dungeon without any traps, they'll sulk for days.
So far I have a shady alchemist, an adrenaline junkie rogue, a cowardly stonewall mage, a metamage with a massive inferiority complex, and an overspecialized warrior.Is this balanced?
>>62453324Sorry m8, I'm retarded.
>>62457905don't sweat it, text is a poor method of communication
>>62415310I believe the 3e book of vile darkness had rules for masochism
>>62422391Isn't that just a Bard tho?
>>62458056Satsuki's massive eyebrows unironically make her look regal as fuck
>>62458056It's not my fetish either, but I can see it working.
>>62458119I think smooth armpits are in the same category as tight abs or nice legs: kinda out there, but not exactly feet-tier.
>>62453421Does she? Didn't another adventurer just assume she had one, because a bunch of enemies were rushing her? In reality it was because her rock hard abs were attracting them.
>>62454866So Fred Jones
>>62424159And enters the author’s magical realm when the frogs show up
>>62415310Martial Power [Combat]You are able to instinctively call upon reserves of untapped power within yourself to defend yourself.Prerequisites: Constitution 13, knowledge of at least one maneuver or stance.Benefit: You can choose to take a –1 penalty on attack rolls and combat maneuver checks to gain 2 temporary hit points. This bonus is increased by half (50%) when you are using a shield of any kind. When your base attack bonus reaches +3 and every +2 thereafter, the penalty increases by –1 and the temporary hit point bonus increases by 2. You can only choose to use this feat when you declare that you are making an attack or a full-attack action with a melee weapon, or when you are initiating a maneuver. The penalty to attack rolls and temporary hit points gained from use of this feat last until the start of your next turn.Special: Martial Power can be used in place of Combat Expertise to qualify for a feat, prestige class, or other special ability. You can take both this feat and Combat Expertise.
>>62449963See >>62458662. Combine with Power Attack and that's a -16 penalty to attack at level 20, just to start with.
>>62454715aqua is a living saint
>>62454715Aqua would be a grot she’s made to bullied
>>62415412Really? Games have had mechanics revolving around low health basically forever at this point.
>>62457127>And of course, if they happen to find a dungeon without any traps, they'll sulk for days>They will 'scout ahead' and actually put new traps in place so that they can then point them out and remark how cleverly designed they are*Fixed."Oh wow, you see how it fires these needles at an arc to go over shields? Such foresight and precision, they really knew exactly where you would stand when it was set off"
>>62438091Darkness has an absurd strength score and is practically unbeatable in unarmed combat (i.e. the only way to beat her, at all, is to make her want to lose because she'll get to enjoy whatever happens next. If she wants to win, she is going to win, full stop).She can't hit anything with her sword because she traded in all her weapon proficiencies for even more toughness/defenses/resistances.She keeps using her sword regardless because it's part of the Crusader image, and she thinks people finding out she can wrestle giants and whatnot into submission with her bare hands would make people think she's too masculine.This is canon and spelled out in the novels eventually.
>>62459001>Implying Farseers aren't for bullying.
Yeah okay well let's open up gurps basic. Okay so first let's start with some disadvantages. First one i'm going to give her isIF YOU DON'T FUCKING GIVE ME THIS BLONDE CUM SOCK RIGHT FUCKING NOW ANON I WILL RAIN SO MUCH FIRE AND DESTRUCTION THAT THE CHRISTIANS WILL THINK IT'S THE SECOND CUMMING!I WANT TO FUCK THE EVER LOVING SHIT OUT OF THAT FUCKING LEWD, CRAZY, NASTY, LITTLE CUM RAG AND PUT MY HEAD BEETWEEN HER THIGHS AS SHE READS THIS ENTIRE FUCKING POST SO WHEN SHE'S FUCKING CUMMING FROM THE MENTAL ABUSE I'M GIVING HER I'M GETTING FUCKING SPLASHED BY HER DELICIOUS FUCKING JUICES!IF I DON'T GET A FUCKING NASTY CRAZY MASOCHIST SIMILAR IN NATURE TO THIS 6'3 GIANT HULKING WOMAN WITH HIPS OUT OF THIS WORLD I WILL FUCKING BLOW MY GOD DAM BRAINS OUT AND HOPE TO GOD IN HELL THEY HAVE HER CHAINED UP AND READY TO RECEIVE ALL KINDS OF HOT DICKING!*Cough* *cough* alright so that's all 250 points...
>>62458217At the very least she has one in the novels.
>>62454715Aqua is a drunken floozy at best, and a useless lazy petulant child most of the time.
I mean, she just has a "masochism" flaw that makes her a bit more resilient to pain and suffering, but makes her actively seek it out. Alternatively make it a benefit and have it give her boosts based on how much it hurt. I run a game that has literal torture demons that get bonuses whenever they inflict AND receive damage, so it's not that hard to stat something like that.
>>62422311a Slayer of goblins, and nothing else.
>>62418592>>62418828>not interestedHave I got news for you
>>62450301also the different kind of trap >>>/d/
>>62418828What about Wiz
>>62463665Minor character and also technically dead
>>62463722The best kind of dead.
>>62463722Dead and loving it!
>>62463665True Best Girl
>>62458217i thought her armor was attracting those birds?
>>62464476Shut up Lalatina.
>>62458217She does have some fine abs
>>62463490I'm actually pretty okay with this becasue I self-insert as Kazuma anyway
>>62459817This but ironically.
>>62463490I heard they get together in the LN
>>62454715Megumin is psyker, obviously.
>>62453421Eh, Champion's Challenge is pretty different from that. Furthermore she doesn't have anything else paladins get, like Divine Smite or Channel Divinity or any kind of spellcasting. I'd still say fighter is the better fit, as it not only makes her sturdier with stuff like Second Wind and Brutish Durability, but it also better demonstrates her freakish strength with the added damage die.
For D&D 3.0e/3.5e.
>>62468226This looks like the Book of Vile Darkness, which despite having an oddly appropriate name for this thread, should never be used
>>62468254Both of the big books of alignment have some things to be salvaged from everything else in there.The question is what and why. I know a few things to save for humor purposes, but not too much else.
>>62468475In Vile Darkness there's a neat prestige class for fighters that expands the shit out of your crit range and gives some rust powers, as well as a shape shifting prestige class that I sort of like. Both of those I wouldn't use with the fluff as is since they require demon worshiping in a pretty childish sense.As for exalted deeds... the parts I like aren't really mechanically sound. Vow of poverty is pretty useless or OP depending on your class (pretty much only good for druids). Some of the alternative animal companion/mount/familiar stuff might be good. I guess the non-lethal feats are okay, but I really dislike that they even have to be feats in the first place. There's an interesting template in there for "saints" or something like that which could potentially salvage a character with a shitty class. That's all I can think of off the top of my head as I haven't read any 3.5 books since 5e was a thing.
>>62468085He was actually a talented swordsman and pilot though.
>>62448776>inquisitors in the same party as an eldar hmmmmm
>>62470246You think for a second those fucks aren't borderline Radical?
>>62449924>wizard's face when his metamorphosis into a beast endows him with the instincts of one >wizard's face when said instincts start going off like a klaxon alarm the instant he lays eyes on the ranger>the ranger who is drawing his skinning knife with a weird glint in his eye
>Monk that exclusively uses jiu-jitsu style grapples, holds, and joint-locks.>Has in-depth knowledge of humanoid anatomy to know which way to best damage/immobilize an opponent.>Unfortunately, this ONLY works on humanoids as everything else has a anatomy too bizarre for monk to grapple effectively. >"What do you mean, 'joint-lock the beholder'? IT HAS NO JOINTS TO LOCK!"
>>62470966So the Monk from 8-Bit theater. He can absolutely DESTROY a person with fist of the north star tier pressure point bloodsplosions.However, he does not know the pressure points of, say, a giant spider. Man-spider? Also out. Spider-man? DEBATABLE.
>>62471025You just made me realize that the cast of 8-Bit would fit in perfectly with the Konosuba world and vice-versa.
>>62470246Look at her corset. She's a Living Saint. What looks like a pointy elf ear is actually a piece of the halo. And since when did eldar rock human skulls on their armor?
>>62476068Okay fair enough but I believe my point still stands with the corset and the halo.
>>62476089Yeah, she's definitely a living saint there.She'd just fit better as an Eldar, because being an Eldar is suffering.And she's constantly talking about how Slaaneris pads her bra.
>>62476143>Slaaneris pads her bra.Question. If she got enough people to believe that, would it become so?
>>62449784How is a dragon not a magical beast? It's a giant lizard that casts spells.
>A cleric that heals for negative damage.
>>62449924>>62470318Is this some Tigtone-level shit
>>62437815>Monk who specializes in headbutts (maybe lost an arm or something?)>Gets increasingly loopy/concussed as fights drag on, has maybe five good hits a fight before blacking out. >refuses to wear any sort of helmet, can't lose those sweet unarmed feats>>62450301Should be an actual trap. Or at least make their gender ambiguous, and have the parties' efforts to uncover it a running gag.
>>62478798Because it's a dragon.
>>62479814>Maybe lost an arm or something?>Can't lose those sweet unarmed feats.>Unarmed Feats>Unarmed
>>62479814The monk's not actually a monk, he wasn't allowed to join.He's just a fighter who doesn't wear armour or use weapons.
>>62479290>>62478875>Vampire cleric/paladin>Claims to be good at healing.>Drains his allies dry after taking even the slightest amount of damage to heal himself.>"I never said that I was good at healing OTHER people."
How would you konosubafy a Bard?
>>62482009The bard is literally Tomako. She wanted to be a bard because she thought it would make her popular and charming and have people hanging on her every word. Now she has music powers and the ability to manipulate people with charm magic, but she is just as awkward and self conscious as before so she never never get through a full sentence or blurts out something terrible.Playing music to buff people? Everyone would be looking at you. What if your music sucks?Yes, you can Charm that cute boy into being your friend with just a few words, but the first step of that is walking up to a cute boy and talking so thats a plan that crashes and burns pretty much immediately. While awful at being a team player Bard, she is unintentionally an incredible debuffer. She is so awkward at being a Bard that if she tries to use her magic on someone she can make them feel as depressed and hopeless as she is, which is a hell of a thing to drop on someone in the middle of a fight.
>>62482009A human from Earth sent to defeat the Demon King that choose the gift of a beautiful voice and proficiency with any instrument he touches. Realizing that was a terrible weapon to fight people with, he instead makes a living as a "master musician" by plagiarizing classic rock hits. He appears on the outside to be an expert womanizer and party fiend but in reality he's super pure and straight edge and heavily relies on illusion magic to maintain that reputation.
I just realized that the "succubus paladin" archetype would work well in Konosuba. Unlike in most settings, succubi in Konosuba aren't universally feared and/or hated, and they actually provide their own unique brand of services to the men of the starting town (a sort of custom wet-dream service). The only people who actually care about killing them are the extreme zealots like Aqua.
>>62484361The succubi are still demons, though, and there is an ongoing war with the demon king and his servants. And even by their own admission, the succubi CAN and used to drain people to death. Its just the ones that work for that brothel that do the sustainable farming for sexy dreams thing.So mistrust of, and persecution of, succubi by others is more or less a reasonable thing to still be going on. That said, I suspect a succubi of all things can hide its demonic appearance if it wants to. The real question is what would drive a succubus to become a paladin in the first place. Even as a paladin, they still have to drain other people for energy. Its how they eat.
>>62484361Aqua's religion would accept them. Like as much as Aqua loves killing the undead and demonic, her religion is the one religion that accepts all degenerates. They might hate them, but they'll take em. Aqua is gungho in destruction of undead and demonic, but she can make friends with them. Unlike Eris.
>>62484481I kinda got the impression that the only ones who really give a shit about the demon war are the gods and some of the demon generals. Hell, the main town in the series has one of the demon generals openly selling magic items to everyone, and hardly anyone bats an eye.
>>62484481>Even as a paladin, they still have to drain other people for energy. Its how they eat.That's not a problem in Konosuba-verse, succubus can partially drain folks and only leave them with morning grogginess (that's how their business works). And since they're a paladin, they can use Restoration if they have to take a larger drink.
>>62482221Perfect.>Huge battle, Bardako finally works up the courage to play a Resolve song in front of a crowd.>It's literally epic level, like she's applying a flat -4 to enemy rolls and +4 to allies'.>Battle becomes super one sided>ONE random mob enemy near Bardako, like fodder goblin #328, miracle saves.>Is extremely confused about the thousands inspired/demoralized around him >"The hell guys, this music ain't that good".>Bardako overhears, drops her instrument and runs absolutely sobbing to her tent.
>>62466606not only do they get together, it is now a running gag that something happens everytime they want to be "alone".
>>62485830Sure, just saying that they still have to do it. Even if its not a big bite, they still have to live off of people to some degree by nature of what they are.
>>62482221> Tomoko with Suggestion powersThis can only end in tears, her own included
>>62485022No one recognises him because his mask has a 2 on it
>>62486838>Hang out with me!>That's pretty unreasonable...
>>62482221She's what happens if your Bard has Charisma 7.
>>62482009What's the most unusual instrument that a bard could have?I'm thinking musical triangle.
>>62482009Someone get's isekai'd, but rather than risk their life fighting demons or whatever they just decide to get by performing random covers of songs they remember from earth and passing them off as their own creation to the new world. Probably relies only on debilitation and illusion spells to get out of dangerous situations and rarely fights anything
>Druid who is obsessed with transforming into animals to the extent that his party members suspects that he might have a fetish that he's not telling anyone about. He also knows every bit of information about all animals, and can even engage in riveting conversations with them>he's also completely absent-minded and devoid of common sense. This, combined with his general naivety and insensitivity, means that he generally ends up insulting animals by accident and driving them into a murderous rage directed at the party
>>62490693There was a bard in the Dragon comic Zogonia who used a gong.As she pointed out, although it wasn't stealthy, no lute is going to offer 3/4 cover.
>>62490902Log Horizon had a character who did that, due to the world they were trapped in only having the game's sound track for songs. (In fact their term for music translated as 42, the number of songs in the world.)