Hey TG lets make a mecha setting!
>>61535005All Mech codenames (i.e. classes, types, weapons, etc) are based on Arthurian legend, knightly terms, and similar.
>>61535039These mecha belong to the corporation of Avalon, based on a planet of the same name.
>>61535005>>61535039>>61535259>How would the mechs be piloted? By one person? Two? Multiple people?>What are the controls? Do you sit at a control panel? Is movement 1:1 with the person inside?>Who are the "bad guys"? Are there monsters? If so, what are they? Is there a central evil force? If so, who or what are they?I don't have much mecha knowledge under my belt, but I can ask questions!
>>61535577>>How would the mechs be piloted? By one person? Two? Multiple people?>>What are the controls? Do you sit at a control panel? Is movement 1:1 with the person inside?A single person, using a circular rail system surrounding a cockpit to allow the arms movement with pedals on the floor controlling the legs. Like pic related. >>Who are the "bad guys"? Are there monsters? If so, what are they? Is there a central evil force? If so, who or what are they?The world has been divied up between various megacorporations, each one establishing their own "kingdoms". In order to avoid costly warfare, they use mechs in order to fight in proxy wars when diplomacy falls through. Any corporation who doesn't follow through with this agreement is condemned by the Council of Corps and cut off from support. The corporations who refuse to follow these orders, or refused to join the Council initially, are considered enemies of the council and are constantly at war with the Council aligned megacorps.
>>61536258The council, is often called the Round Table. As a measure to ensure that rulings are fair the AI Merlin was created to act as an impartial party.
>>61536608The Round Table enforces a heavy ban on the research and use of certain technologies when equipped and applied to Cavaliers (the official name for the mechs) that most companies follow to a varying degree. This includes studies in artificial sentience, so a minority of corporations view the use of Merlin distastefully. The most powerful corporation, however, Pendragon Industries, explicitly supports the AI's place on the council, so none of the dissidents have performed any other action beyond filing official complaints.
>>61537012The band originate from the rise of a rogue AI Morrigan. It along with its modred class autonomous weapons nearly brought humanity to the brink of extinction.
dropped>i've seen this shit in mecha before. you fail, your highness....
>>61537342Well what would you recommend then in instead?
>>61535005>The Knights/Mechs were built to fight Dragons
>>61537012Lancelot Industrial has been a rising star in the mecha market with several well developed product lines including long range rail cannon and middle systems. Their star however is the Galahad class mecha.
>>61535005>tfw I like the idea of mechs but have rarely actually seen design and works I like except for Titanfall and Tau
>>61537465I like this.
>mechs are passed down from father to son, with each user adding to the mech.
>>61537523Ooh, I didn't have this one, thanks anon.
>>61535005>Percival Metalwerks has begun prototypes on a Centauric design
>>61537143>morrigan was partially destroyed and blocked for core and inner ring stellar systems,yet on middle,outer,and unknown stellar systems,parts of his AI,his lieutenants and his armies still raiding,and healing,preparing a new invasion to finish the work>>61537465>the semi sentient mecha lead by morrigan and his lieutenant are known as dragons
>>61537012The Mordred Corp hates the other corporations to the point of sabatoge and subterfuge. Their barbaric fighting styles and hit and run tactics in battle have earned their troops the moniker the Black Knights of the Battlefield.
So how do we muck about with the code:>To never do outrage nor murder (not to assault or murder anybody)>Always to flee treason (do not commit treason, a crime against your country or king)>To by no means be cruel but to give mercy unto him who asks for mercy (Do not be mean. Grant mercy to those who ask, even in combat.)>To always do ladies, gentlewomen and widows succor ('succor' is an old word for help; this means that the knight must promise to help women if they need it.)>To never force ladies, gentlewomen or widows (never 'harm' women.)>Not to take up battles in wrongful quarrels for love or worldly goods (do not even join in fights over anything less than God or country)>To fear God and maintain His Church>>61537543As they survive battles, the Dragons have shown signs of personalities and preferences, breaking off to fight specific knights, or favoring certain weapons and styles to an alarmingly Human level
>>61537877Considering the Knights are aligned with Corps this leads to interesting interpretations of the classic Code.
>>61537925Corps with a sense of noblesse oblige?How about a rule that an entity cannot legally own stock in more than one megacorp but individual corp stock are assigned to specific subcorps. This makes the megacorps more like Japanese Zaibatsu than Western stock market based corporations.
>>61538039>No dual citizenship>Laws pertaining tax havens are more strict and enforced by warships
>>61538039I could see it working, likely each Corp has its own variations and interpretations of the code as well. For example can Th r common man ascend to cavalier hood?
>>61538136Likely among the more "Just and Chivalrous" ones. It would expand their recruitment base, and provide PR buffs.
>>61538177True I wonder if you don't see power armor or more typically equipped 'commoners' that fight on the battlefields.
>>61538136Some might tie the right to be cavalier to stock options while others might make being a cavalier similar to pro athletes employed by the corp.Publicly traded corps likely have different rules than Private corps.>>61538235Powered armored Men-at-Arms being the bulk of the PMC portions of the corps makes a lot of sense.
>>61538302maybe the basic army of the corporations are exo augmented or genetic augmented soldiers,and the mechas are their heavy armored shock troops for urban and space combata mecha is assigned several platoons of this mercenaries and soldiers,being the mecha the bullet sponge and the soldiers giving supportthis unit structure would be called ''vanguards'' every kight have his own vanguard
>>61538341>Their are many different size s for Knights to choose from>For infantry support 5-10 meters is the most proffered (Arm Slave, Titans)>More open battlefields see 14 and higher due to space/volume/power advantages. (Gundam, NEXTs, Mortar Headds)
>>61538412>for open fields the mechas focus on armor and mobilty,sacrificing some maneuverability reaction time>yet on open field more classic armored vehicles still rule over the battlefield (tanks,apcs etc),so mechas are used more as artillery mobile unit,or support unit rather than a combat one
>>61538476on open fields units using wheels or tracks would get great speed at low effort and low cost,a mecha using biped locomotion from would need to use great amounts of resources to macth that speedon open fields speed range are primordial,at the cost of upgrading one mech to get a decent speed you could mech a dozen of APCS that could surpass that speed or 4 tanks of high speedno matter how good the mecha is open field would still ruled by classic vehicles because they would be more effective at less cost
>>61538559but on urban warfare mechs would rule because what matter their is maneuverability a mecha can jump between sky crapers,use cars as shields,climb mountains full of ubstacles etc,something a wheell based vehicle cant
>>61538559Why was my post deleted?I'm guessing you never read FSS? Or played AC4A?
>>61538341I think cohort is probably the better term as a vanguard is the advanced unit of an army.I could see the standard cohort having the following organization:>Cavalier - Mech Pilot.>Men-at-arms - soldiers that support the Cavalier. Some might be vehicle based others might be infantry.>Squires - support staff of the cohort. Mechanics, cooks, etc.
>King Arthur's Legendary Super Mecha, X-Caliber, was key to uniting the forces of humanity against the dragon threat and was the key to slaying the Dragon Matriarch Tiamat (more Sumerian/Babylonian inspired than D&D).>However, it disappeared after the Dragon Wars as did King Arthur. The legendary Mecha is sought by all the corps, for though centuries have passed, the resources put into the creation of X-Caliber have never yet been matched since. >If any one faction gained control of it, they would possess the ability to conquer the whole world.
>>61538591i dont know why was deleted sorry anonbut at basic aspect make sensesmechas have great maneuverability and reaction times,plus the fact they cant be stopped by obstacles on the road (they can climb them or just jump over),they don't have a lot of blind spots,than to the thing pointed before (they can just turn around or jump)what make them perfect for fighting on places with little space,a lot of covers,dangers of ambushes and lot of obstacles (forests,and urban environment)for example imagine a tank being ambushed from a skyscraper above him,the cannon couldn't aim ,and they would be vulnerable,a mecha in this situation can just jump aside,look up and shootbut on open fields what matter is range and speed,a mecha could never match the speed of a tank using his legs,and using jets would consume to much energy,no company would allow this,instead they would use that money on creating more tanks why have one mecha if you can buy 6 or more tanks that could fo the same work with less resources (being a mobile fire unit)
>On the Eastern Fringes exists the Empire of the Radient Sun ruled cooperatively by three major Zaibatsus: Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Susano.>This arrangement was codifed after the Kagatsuchi incident which lead to Izanagi and Izanami falling apart and Izanagi further subdiving it's holdings to prevent Kagastuchi from claiming any stake in it.
>>61538712and the problem of losing nobles knightsyet that doesn't mean the mechs wouldn't be important,urban landscapes would be protagonic,i imagine megacities the go up to the sky and down on the earth and this could create a interesting dinamic,the friction beetwen the pragmatic corps of armored vehicles and the noble yet idealist knights
>>61538777>>61538712Don't forget that many megacities are left in ruins. A tank might not be able to proceed into them except for staying on what remains of the highways.Besides, there's the Dragons and the other servants of Mordred to worry about.>>61538715>Their machines resemble Centaur versions of the sacred beasts. Unfortunately, the divisions led to the designers making sure as few parts could be shared between them as possible.
>>61538847that was exactly what i was saying,tanks are desgined for 2D combat,that mean what matter is range,and moving fast forward and back(ideal for open fields)but a mecha sacrifice speed ,but gain reaction time,and maneuverability,being able to move in 3D (up,down,right,left,forward and back) making it ideal for megacities,when it doesnt matter how fast you can go on a straigth line,but how fast can you dodge,and move on diferent directions at the same timewhat kind of rivalry you think would be beetwen the armored vehicles corps and our mecha knights?
>>61538847Yamato no Orochi was originally one of the Dragons created by Tiamat but went rogue when it grew powerful enough to escape it's control.It ruled over a portion of the Eastern Fringes demanding sacrifes until Susano of Susanoo enterprises was able to defeat the dragon.Incidently, this lead Susanoo enterprises expanding it's operations into craft beverages marketing 8 Maiden's Wine as it's premire product to supplement it's Heavy Armor Division.
>>61538903Probably the same one we have now. You'll have them fighting for money for gear and personnel and PR. The boots on the ground will fight for the "privilege" of going into battle and being the spearhead to take the glory.Maybe even move the battle to TV. Both groups trying to court what remains of the news media to show them in a good light.
>>61538941So then do people living on the fringes leave kegs as offerings to the rogue Dragons in the area?
>>61539149It would make sense that they would have a wholely different relationship to the dragons then what the western counterparts do.Perhaps a group of Dragons resisted Tiamat's influence and can live among the Eastern Fringe without sparking conflict. It doesn't make them nice but they are now part of the Spiritual hiearchy and in terms of receiving offerings and money
>>61537465now THIS shit is why i fuckin loved duel masters. >dragon helicopters>dragon b-2 bombersthis shit was my jam 13 years ago.
>>61538559What did you think of the mechs from Code Geass? They have a wheeled system on the bottom of the feet with rails extending back about twice the length of the foot for balance and basically roller bladed around for high mobility on terrain that fits it.I've always thought mech's were cool, but can't ever seen something like a giant robot every actually replacing a tank. Too complicated, too easy to disable. Best I could imagine would be something more like a Metal Gear REX but about half the size. More like 10/12 feet tall instead of 40. One or two pilots in a heavily armored walking shell with a number of modular weapon systems.
>>61539386as i say mechas only work on environment with a lot of structures ,covers and blockinga mecha that can climb is perfect for mega cityssadly i havent the pleasure of seing code geass,but there was a debate about mechas vs tans on the template institute on youtube (sci fy and fantasie chanel)
>>61539245Maybe the eastern dragons are more like AI-run Yakuza?
>>61540013>>61539245Maybe the Dragons/Lieutenants tend to fall under the Seven Sins and those just tend to fall for the Greed/Sloth combo?Let me make sure I also get this stuff straight:>The AI Morrigan is the primary instigator of all this>>61537756>The Mordred Corporation has a heavy part in its construction and may have had Umbrella from Resident Evil type plansSo the Field Offices are the ones unleashing the Dragons and similar enemies?
>>61535005>Otherworldly monsters pops up from nowhere>Immune to missiles, nukes, cannons, know tech/magic, etc>Somehow shitty infantries damages them, but not that hard.>monsters get hurt more when gets whacked in melee>what if we make humanoid giant machines that has giant guns and swords>it werks
>>61535259>>61535039I actually used to day dream about a setting (for a book that will never get written because i'm a hack and it's not that great of an idea anyway) that was basically the king Arthur legend retold in space.Nobles are literally bio-engineered super soldiers, not just figuratively but literally better than normal peasants by bloodThe worlds were actually settled by corporations as a private business endeavor, long ago. This was meant to be a hamfisted social comment on how little difference there is between "landed nobility' and "corporate executives" because I am a hack.But anyway there would be suits of armor roughly 2 to 3 stories high called CUIRIASSES piloted by nobles via neural uplink. Generally very fast, skate around the battlefield, but don't fly except for burst air jumps. Think gun griffon. The only thing that can really threaten them besides another Cuiriasse - due to their armor and mobility - are massed PIKE's, particle induced kinetic explosives. AKA mini nukes. So infantry and tanks will often carry dumbfire RPG's that are basically small nuclear weapons (but less dirty because reasons?)Admittedly it all wasn't very imaginative but I still like the idea of mixing biopunk, sci-fi, and anachronistic noble houses.The all important excalibur wasn't going to be mecha or a sword, but a fucking battleship with enough firepower and shielding to completely unbalance the current power structure between the various lordly corporations, hidden/buried within an asteroid being constructed by Merlin - a mysterious and heavily mechanically augmented digital sorcerer
>>61539386>>61539527mecha sadly don't really fit a niche, so it's best to leave idea's of "realism" asidethe one exception?Spider Legs.
>Squires learn to pilot the support craft used to ferry the mecha suits between battlefields, and if necessary can put on a spare suit, though with less finesse.
>>61540948Anon lots of setting are dumb. Execution its 100%, I mean, Martin the Fat ripped the Elric the Melnibone for his Targaryen, the Mythos for his pantheons (The Drowned god, Shub nigurath is one of the main deities from the Free cities than make Valyrian steel etc) and history and folklore for his books, and its considered one of the great in the modern fantasy scene (of course it says more about his rivals than himself). Myself, I'm more a small mech dude,Landmates (I can't believe it isn't a power armor!) Heavy Gear, Scope dogs, Knightmares etc, Mechs than aren't stupid hugh or indestructible, but are very fast, than still fear the tank but can carry enough firepower to be a threat to anything. In my not so disimilar setting, imagined in the not so different circumstances than yours (lots of Dune, Battletech, Fading suns and 40k and a great love for history I guess), mechs are a good compromise for the Nation/Houses to bring firepower while skiming in weight in space transportation, mechs made from a combination of soft material with a hard carapace are useful enough to be transported and "light" enough so you can transport a good deal of them. The veritable terror of the battlefields are the Landships/castles, monsters with fusion reactors than can be "launched" from space (imagine a combination of xabungle landships with Battletech Dropships and you get an idea) and the Hovertanks ala Hammer Slammer (less Iiridium indestructible beasties, more fast, hard and with very heavy canons tough) they need lessers machines to hold ground and the like, cold fusion reactors are very rare, and one of the setting valuable resources (lots of cities live around and ancient fusion reaction, some of the recent ones from a downed landship).The Big Guys exist too (they have the incredible imaginative name of Titans), to fight the not Kaijus/tyranids/Bugs from Star ship troopers than infect the Planets around earth. I'm a hack I know but its a setting for muh fun.
>>61541294Many squires also learn the ins and outs of their knights machines as they must also enact field repairs resupply the mighty war machines amidst battle. Most knights have been given by their company warships to,aid them in their efforts the most famous of these being the mighty Destrier class cruisers that devastate their foes alongside the knights.
>>61542284I like the idea of castles/landed titles being a sort of mobile fortress. With perhaps horse based smaller attack craft to charge out of it from? So while many make use of Castle class mobile command centers most knights have smaller attack craft that they do much of the fighting from.
So, we have MORRIGAN a Rogue AI that apparently took over the autonomous Dragon units at least partly. Then we have the Western part of the Round Table, based on Arthurian legend as well as an Eastern bloc thst is based on Japanese that might be harboring uncorrupted dragons somewhere. Am I missing anyone?
>>61542495The Castles are used to charge with electricity the Tanks and Caballeros/knights (I know, I know, I'm that good with names) and to support with AA and dumbfire weapons the advance of the a lot easier to replace mooks, and of course to carry supplies and the like. Size wise, you have also minor ships like Gunships, basically big guns strapped to a big ass hovertanks, to corvettes and frigates, used when you don't want to risk your Castle but need big guns, those go along a castle as remoras, conected to the big ass fusion reactor for energy. Lots of those castles have been habitated be the same families for hundreds of years and new fusion reactors are very, very rare and very expensive to adquire, only the big powers can adquire new ones. If you have read Battletech its easy to see from were I get the idea of that, but space mad max knight mechs its such a cool concept...
During the height of the Republic of Mercantile Entities, the precursor to the Round Table the Asteroid belt was transformed into Hadrians Wall, a massive network of defense emplacments designed to secure the Inner the Solar System from threats outside. As the centuries ground on however Dragons, Raiders and barbarians have breached the wall and even taken over some of the once might fortress stations.
>>61542649I almost wonder if the commissioning of new reactors is something that needs to go before the Round Table. Perhaps their was a revolt in the past?
>>61543251I was posting about my setting but go away and use it, if it fits. Muh english is crap so I will aport some pics and ideas.What about aero elements? Are the dragons that dangerous because they can fly? How about flyboys with they expensive fighters or bombers, do they exist? How do knight counter them?
>>61543401My bad, but thanks! And I imagine very likely aero elements are coupled with space going. So say, a Courser Class Corvette also provides air support to the Knights. Very likely biomechanical Space Dragons though have little trouble with dealing with aerial fighters.
>>61535259Is that a seraphim mech?
>>61542649every castle have have several cohorts of knighst,squires and soldiers asigned,sometimes lead by a member of the company,sometimes lead by a noble knight,they have relative independeceafter the war against the mech dragons lead by the rogue AI of morrigan,several artifacts and resources have been left on the abandoned colonies ,abandoned sector of megacities and space stationsevery knight and his castle try to get this sacred tech-relics
In days past, the Homeworld of Man was called Earth. During the devastation of the First war against Morrigan it suffered countless devastating blows but carried on. As humanity spread across the Solar system though the Cradle world became shrouded with myth and under the protection of Merlin forbidden to the greater whole of humanity as it was slowly healed. Shrouded by perpetual,Cloud cover it has since been renamed Avalon.many whisper that this is Where Arthur and other great Corporate knights have retired to at the behest of the powerful AI.
Merlin is known to appear in "dreams", hinting of great rewards for determined artifacts.There is talk about the greatest of them all, said to be part of what made Morrigan so powerful. Whispers about that Grial and what is it (the coordinates of fabled craddle of mankind, the combined knowladge of the ages, eternal youth) seems to change from place to place, but everyone its sure the one than find it will change things up.
Upon the arid but breathable dunes of Mars the Second Home of man was founded. Upon the peaks of Olympus Mons the PenDragon Corporation has built its central,city a mastery of Engineering known as Camelot. The Space elevator thst reaches from its heart is anchored to Deimos and is the current seat of the Round Table.
As knights have men at arms and castles so to do the Dragons. Wyvernd and Lindwyrms crawl and scout ahead of their massive masters and from their Lairs, a massive conglomeration of factory, warship and tactical command post do they attack. These lairs originate at the edge of the Solar system from which morrigan commands.
>>61543905So, armed forces wise, what do we get so far? Stuff like Knigthmare frames are so fitting to a Mythic arthurian mech setting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzldRT_YWUgWhy its so difficult to find good anime fightings without some, uh, questionable amv?
>>61544884wel some relics:-mecha prototypes-weapons of the golden age of mankind-energy sources-historic and scientific data files-fortress of the past-blueprints-more normal yet useful tech and knowledge for non militar uses (agriculture techniques,genetic treatments,medicine,better electronics etc)the relics can come either from the dragon side (being brand as incredible dangerous)or ancient human techthere is aliens if tey doesnt exist or dont interactthey didnt ever exist,they flee,or they are a exinted race?
>>61544990>wel some relics:>-mecha prototypes>-weapons of the golden age of mankind>-energy sources>-historic and scientific data files>-fortress of the past>-blueprints>-more normal yet useful tech and knowledge for non militar uses (agriculture techniques,genetic treatments,medicine,better electronics etc)>the relics can come either from the dragon side (being brand as incredible dangerous)or ancient human tech>there is aliens >if they doesn't exist or don't interact>they didn't ever exist,they flee,or they are a extincted race?ftfy
>>61544990Mini mechs could be based in agricultural, labor,mining etc suits of the first colonial push, when Morrigan and the Dragons started they reeeing, colonial would have used anything at hand to try to protect themselves, so Tactical like mechs with improvised weapons pasted in were one of the first line of defense, Later one the true big mechs were made to fight the dragons, aping the rougher mechs, than were kind of the symbol of resistence. With the ages new models have been made specially ideated to help the big mechs (be explorers, to clean the chaff or even hunt other big mechs), and they are also a good training for the bigger, meaner Titanic Knights pilots before they are entrusted the big guys.
>>61539386I love these
>>61545196>there exist a social and energetic crysis>people live on poor conditions in mix of tech that doenst truly understand and savagery>some people try to find solutions on the past hunting relics hoping one of them could save society>others try to aim to the future investigating new tech or fleeing on colonizing ships to explore,secure and repopulate the lost colonies/create new ones>other people just try to fit on the system and climb on the power hierarchy>most of knights order have a fanatical worship of the past,as result of adoctrination on traditiions,this lead to sometimes being defenders of the corrupt corporative systems and having friction against the people that try to change things
>>61545196Likely smaller mecha are used as you said civilian side, along with things such as Powered armor for those who,aren't mecha knights. Probably every colony has at least one or two smaller none noble grade mecha to act as a defense.
>>61539386Ignore the music, but that's a hawt battle.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zsFlBwlCD4Also who knows, Exo-Armors and the like using "soft robot" tech are feasible right now, a land-mate or a mech using this tech for a cheap muscle skeleton, could be more feasible than we think. Of course, not titanic gundams.
>>61545281A lance could be composed of a big guy and four or so mini-mes. Big Mechs Called knights, little ones called squires? A squire could be also used for technicians to repair the titanic ones as other anons have said before.
>>61545124Dubbed the Sidhe, the extinct alien race was first discovered upon the surface of Venus. Vast Crystalline trees rose from craters and nestled in their bows technologies that were far beyond humanity. It is the crude imitations of their power sources that became fusion reactors and the bark of the strange artifice that became the basis for cavalier armor and blades. However, it was also the self generating structures that gave rise to the techno organic framework of the first Dragons...
>>61545413Makes sense.there was talk that Men At Arms are corporate soldiers that serve as ground troops while squires either work as field mechanics and support fire.
>>61545488Man at arm are of course in PA. What's about other vehicles, like tanks? They should have they own place, the most variety the better. Knights are the stars but you need a rich cast to make them shine.
>>61545433>sometimes some cohorts of knights ,squires,and soldier get lost on the mazes of reality blending tech on venus>armored vehicles corps had been lost too>this lost armies come from several ages>legend says that sometimes on battle portals open and legions of the past and present,made of a comination of mechs and armored vehicles attack the monsters of this galaxy>the forgotten cohorst is how they had been call
>>61545275This reads like shitty anime subtitles.
>>61542625>>61542805>>61543946>>61544117>>61544370>>61544649To be honest, it's starting to look like a combination of Cowboy Bebop and Eclipse Phase and MegaMan . So for the timeline, it seems we have something like this:>Earth gets very advanced thanks to AI and new energy sources>Starts spreading out into the solar system>Mars begins full terraforming with colonies spreading into the outer half of the Solar System>Insert generic Human troubles here >The Mordred Corporation begins dabbling in more and more dangerous things, demanding more and more genetic and mental alterations to it's employees and people who live in it's colonies>Unleash AI Morrigan in a bid to take over, along with fully controllable Dragonmechs>Wars happen here, massive loss of life and coloniesWar here>Earth is quarantined, since Mordred Corp. was able to get capable footholds there. Referred to as Avalon now>The loss of high end governments on Earth mean that Corps can move in, but are aware of many of them potential pitfalls of becoming the next Mordred Corp>The Round Table and the Empire of the Radiant Sun are the two big groups selling themselves as the ones who will restore Avalon to mankind>Just like in the stories, other companies, good and evil, make plays for lands and resourcesOn the Mordred side:>The CEO is dead. No one knows who killed him, but they all want the position.>It's a tense battle of subterfuge. Anyone claiming the title knows the others will pile upon them, so the throne lies unfilled>Factory fresh Dragonmechs are utmost loyal, but as time and battle wears on their cybernetics, they start developing quirks>They remain loyal to _____________, as per their programming, but have begun to have leeway in interpreting that major order>So much so that even Mordred Corporation must be careful about who they send where, as some Dragonmechs are hostile to their own brethren, while others can become extremely losses with how they fulfill their duties
>>61545515Likely also peasant warriors or minor knights that can't afford a full mech? Perhaps Hedge Knights that aren't tied to a single corporation opt for tanks or smaller lower grade mecha?
>>61545515i already mentioned tanks and armored vehicles above,they are the dominant force on open field thanks to their speed and low cost,they have a rivalry with knights (wich dominate mega cities and places with lot of obstacles) but they work together and respect each other>>61545551you forgot the ancient tech of venus>>61545525sorry about that anon,im south american so my language is the spanish,yet i love this threads,i apologize
>>61545551Id almost wager Modred Corp has gone full Cybernetic perhaps at this point the knights are more machine than man? Meanwhile Is say its an inverse the Newer model dragons being churned out by Morrigan are loyal,to the AI while older models are breaking away. They're far from friendly but some colonies have managed to appease them to hold off other outright hostile forces.
>>61537651>>61537633>>61537606>>61537534>>61537511>>61537484>>61537471Like these designs. Looks cool.
>>61545560In Spain we had the Caballeros pardos or villanos (Village or Rustic knights) along the hidalgos. The first were the ones than got a horse and weapons of a knight, and they were enlisted as such, getting petty nobility statues, an Hidalgo was a mostly a son of a noble without much to call its own, but had all the perks and duties of nobility (no taxes, but you had to serve in the army when called) so they ended forming the bulk of Spanish adventurers and Tercio infantry. Yeoman and Hedge knights I think are the close in english. A Yeoman could be a trained in a corps to use Mechs, a Hedge knight a kind of Freelance.
>>61545727Read this with Antonio bandares' voice.
>>61545727So it's pretty fitting then? Past the mega cities where the corporations hold sway Hedge knights and their kind defend rustic colonies with ageing gear and weapons. Also what might each Round Table corporation specialize in? We know PenDragon is basically making a living on its orbital elevator
>>61539386I always felt something like a Dva mech would be feasible.On that note, I never really liked the mechs that used handheld weapons.
>>61545804I think we should only flesh the biggest, most important ones, so there is plenty of minor ones (used be the bigger ones, independents etc) to fluff as needed.
The black knights of Modred are infamous. Cavaliers injured on the front lines of the Corporation are given an option, either join the Black Knights or enter into retirement, this bring a loss of shares and minimal pension and sent to live out their days at the edge of known space. Those thst take the first route vanish into any number of black sites never to be seen again. From them come the most terrifying weapon in the companies arsenal. Machines that move as if they had no controls and instead were one with their pilots. Black Knights answer no calls to them, have no squires and are always speak through an intermediary from the company.
Dragons and Black Corps are not the only opposition cavaliers and their cohorts face.>Gigants - Mysterious robotic entities of massive size. The smallest on record (Gigant Organism type 2) was the size of Deimos. While normally passive, activated units have been both helpful and harmful to human interests.>The Formless - Other dimensional invaders that defy standard forms of definition. First contact occurred during discovery of the hyperspace sea used in modern FTL travel.>Electrionic Lumino Forms (ELF) - Theorized to have some relationship with the Sidhe, these capricious incorporeal entities are known to be mostly helpful. On rare occasions they may bond with biological lifeforms granting unusual capabilities.>Form Altered and Enhanced (FAE) - Biological entities bonded with an ELF. Benefits and alterations vary. Common enhancements include increased intelligence, humanoid forms and extra-normal powers. Known FAE have included members of every biological kingdom within the Eukaryote Domain. Common FAE hosts include dogs, cats, trees, flowers, butterflies, spiders and mushrooms. Human hosts have been theorized and suspected but none have been confirmed.
>>61546232Its been theorized that Gigants are actually automated Sidhe space craft the first reported sighted originating around Venus and their structural composition are similar to the Venusian Trees. However study is dangerous due to strange time dilation effects that occur along with spatial anomalies.
>>61546232I feel like just having weird space and time bendy artifscts and ruins fit more with the setting. Like with the Dragons they are just doing what they programmed to do and the same with Morrigan. While Mordred corp,might be sleazy and do terrible things but they're just working towards their own goals while combing through the wreckage of war. The Sidhe are dead and gone and what they've left behind are weird artifacts of something unknowable and powerful. What advances humanity made are primitive imitations
>>61545923Very true, I would think that PenDragon industries probably pushes for all rounders with both melee and ranged in equal measures. Lancelot industries probably focused on range firepower going for single shot heavy weapons and the like.
>>61546708>I feel like just having weird space and time bendy artifscts and ruins fit more with the setting.The Gigants are pretty much that. Minor planet sized machines that might have been owned by the dead precursor race, their enemies or both. Imagine a machine big enough that sending in a squad of titanic mechs to destroy it from the inside is a good idea.The Formless are a combination of Lovecraftian entities, the Bydo from R-type, and the Formorians of Irish myth. An enemy that would force Cavaliers, Dragonmechs and Black Knights to work together.The ELFs and FAE are a a way to have newtype style psychic powers and the occasional 'alien but not' creature.
>>61546232When was there mention of FTL?
Are mechs and dragons compatible, hardware wise? Could you make a mechs of dragon parts?
>>61547233The seting asume Humanity has expanded outside the solar system, forgeting about Earth.
>>61547250I would think yes? Though if its a good idea is another question. After all malevolent AI even in pieces might not be something you want to shove into the giant robot you are piloting.
>>61547250I'd file that under Banned by the Round Table and Empire.However, there are plenty of small players who might take the risk, and we explicitly have tons of minor corporations willing to take that tisk
>>61547325>>61547312Sounds good, Knights like the Green one could be based in that, a mech mixed with dragon parts. Of course, the Round table doesn't aprove and would send questin knights to end it.
>>61547233As >>61547275 mentioned. I was imagining the Solar system as the equivalent of the British Isles with Alpha Centauri being the equivalent of France. You need FTL for those distances.Lancelot Corp and their spin-off Galahad Corp would be immigrants from Alpha Centauri.
>>61547450Makes sense. So, would we also have German analog systems or just the two for right now?
So, possible corps:Gawain, Geraint, Percival, Bors, Kay, Yvain, Tristan. What other famous/cool knight are there to base a corps around?
>>61547485I think that's a pretty good start all said. Least for the Round Table.
The space between stars is often called the midnight sea, to ply the gulfs between is an endeavor that even the mighty dragons take with risk. Time dialations spacial anomalies and other maddening effects might leave a castle drifting, lost in the space between stars. The most famous and stable routes bear names notably, the Solar Channel that connects Sol to Alpha Centauri. Though navigable it is not without risks as raiders and pirates are known to attack undefended convoys.
>>61547663>the control of this routes are heavily contested beetwen the corporations
>>61547450Do wait if Sol is the UK which planet is Wales?
>>61547713 jupiter moons
>>61547471We can expand further later.>>61547485The Pellinore group made up of (Tor, Aglovale, Lomrak, Dornar, Percival and the later out of system returner Palamedes) was once the Pellinore Corp, the friendly rival of PenDragon, but fragmented due to a trade war with Lot Corp during an attempted coup that led to Lot Corps fragmenting into the white corps Gawain, Gaheris and Gareth and the black corps Agravane and Mordred.
>>61547816it would be nicewe have the corporation having control over the home system and monopolizing the mmean of production *they dont have knowledge,but thay control the fabrics)i think the german version wold be a militar dictatorship with centralized government,yet relative behind on tech levels and industrythat make thinkthere would be exiled remnants of the UN ?
>>61547859What was medieval Germany like? I thought it was hyper fragmented?
>>61547880oh sorry i was thinking on the reich stylebut if we are going to use a medieval germanit would work like the holy roman empirea great emperor leading a confederacy of different states,so they would be nations in every planet and moon,and each one would have their own governent ,yet they would still asnwering to the emperor
>>61547919I could see them being the last remains of the Republic of Mercantile Entities then that got mentioned up thread Then. Or at least they like to style themselves as such.
>>61547962You mean a kind of hansa? Medieval Germany didn't exist, it was all kind of principalities, little kingdoms, baronies and the like squabling like children every time in the >Sacre>Roman>Empire. About mid to late middle ages Northen part started a comercial renaisence of sorts, being known as the Hansa, its a good thing to base a corps on.
>>61548007That could work.So within Sol the Round Table holds away parcelimg out trade routes and trying to settle matters peacefully as they can?
before continuig the world buildingthank guys,i havent ever played a tabletop game sadly where i live,the kits for 40k or other universes arent available,and dice rules are uncomfortable for mebut i really like role playing and the games of CYOA,so i want to thank you guys for building this universe with menow emotional fagotry asidedo you think democratic nations or organizations like the UN had survived on some way?
>>61548232I would imagine if they do its less survived and more reduced to an appendix of the current system.
>>61548149It tries, but it's a voluntary organization that doesn't always trust each other or the AI helping it.The Empire is pushing in from the fringes and using rules lawyers to send some proxy corps to Earth.And you gave Mordred Corporation still weaving it's tentacles into everything
>>61548232>>61548269The Round Table has a "divine mandate" from the remnants of the Space UN giving it a wide leeway to do what they see fit to reclaim Avalon
>>61548500traduction:we are to weak do anything
>>61548500And by divine, we totally made that up and may or may not be blowing smoke out our asses on that.Also, what's the moon like?
>>61547816Argavane Corp originated as a notable and respected peace keeping/paramilitary force during the rise of the Dragons. Originally a subsidiary or PenDragon the Company has since changed not only loyalties but also tactics having gained a notorious reputation for heavy handed and often brutal measures used to ensure compliance. Cavaliers pulled into its ranks are often taken from its men at arms that show a particularly brutal skill set and the company emphasizes getting results no matter the cost over following the Principles that most other Corps seek to achieve and uphold.
>>61548738>>61548738These acts of brutality came to a head in the battle of Lindenmarsh when several knights dispatched to eradicate a dragon caused massive civilian casualties.devastating the colony. Many argue this was intentional as it was held by Lancelot Corp.
Lancelot Corp. With gleaming mecha, well dressed, and well spoken Cavaliers and unbending stance upon justice outwardly appears to at first blush be the exemplar of all things a corporation should be. But, this is in part their excellent PR. The reality is far more mixed as Lancelot has shell companies that work behind the scenes ensuring that their position as the Right hand of PenDragon is not questioned. Assasinations, spying and even sabotage of rival company mecha are not out of the purview. Lancelot Corp shines brightly but casts a deep shadow.
>>61547663How large did the colonization efforts reach? Does humanity inhabit only Sol and a few nearby systems, or have they reached across the entire galactic arm, or even beyond there?
>>61549745Parcival Incorporated is well known as Relic hunters.one of the most fervent in seeking the Grail they've reportedly turned down operations for their own holding a if it meant the chance to secure relics.
>>61550360i would say beetwen 10 and 30 systemsmost of them lost, or uncomunicated
The Bedivere Holdings are considered a strange conglomeration of several smaller corporations whose dealings are rumored reach back even before the colonization. While never confirmed, an anonymous infiltrator who claims to have breached their insane security systems - even for a Corps - claims that they keep several artifacts or banned pre-Round Table technology, and even an unfinished starmap with a route that, the infiltrator claims, leads back to the Cradle.
>>61550360I'd say pretty far into the arm. Something like 100 systems. Sol/Avalon just happens to be away from everything else on the edge of the arm.
>>61550518I mean Earth isn't lost. Its just not allowed to be landed on. The Merlin AI kinda quarantined it for some reason.
>>61550541I would say at its height the Round Table held probably half that.thst said between all the powers that be You're on the money.
It is fabled that the Sidhe Homeworld was once discovered by Arthur and his fleet. The planet Tir Na Nog exists on no maps but from time to time accounts of the fabled land are found. A place of glassine plains and cities of crystalline towers through which phantoms move. The planet seems to defy reality appearing where it pleases and to those cast adrift. Though it has no star it still has light and warmth and though no moon its seas of strangely irridescent water have tides. Or so they say.
>>61551504Those that have found it or at least claim to come back years beyond when they arrived. Sometimes decades or centuries are lost from,just a short stay or time flows backwards for them arriving at the same time they had left to a destination that might have been weeks or months away.
Who is the Green Knight/Bertilak?
>>61551765Possibly a corporation or maybe a renowned ace?
The AI Morrigan is notable that it is not a singular entity rather than as Merlin operate there appears to be at least two discrete personality types. The Morrigan an over arching strategic mind that handles the grand movements of its various Dragons and then its seperate and distinct personality archetypes. These are oddly parasitic, taking over a host body and moving them as a puppet. Most notably of these sub minds is Morgan La Fey, a temptress thst is rumored to be based off of a founding member of Modred Corp.
>>61552355I will admit I did this because I fucked up on my legends and shit and picked Morrigan queen of ghosts and phantoms instead of Morgan la fey. And it is thematic over all.
So how do companies name their various mecha? After weapons, horses, cities from Earth?
>>61553422I think weapons work best for the mecha. Ships are classed based on horses and horse breeds.
>>61553464Makes sense, so I assume knight class are sword based?
>>61537465>>61537750>The dragons are all rogue AIHell yes
>>61553522is the knight-class gonna look like actual knights?
>>61554044Thst is kinda the point isn't it?
>>61554044Individual Corps have their own styles. Some are more armoresque than others.
>>61551765>>61552355Once a pilot of a minor house named Bertim, the Green Knight has risen to prominence among nobility after his slaying of the Emerald beast of the Tethys Reach and adopting its colors and likeness for heraldry. Having since taken the name Bertilak he has caught the eye of several high ranking nobles for his skill in the field and prowess with the blade.
>>61554431Bertilak has often been spotted in the company of a lady of alluring demeanor. Hee name is often different depending upon company but all descriptions purport the same thing. A woman with Raven black hair and emerald green eyes and skin pale as white ceramic.
>>61554482Anyone have an issue with some AI on the dragon side of things body jacking people? Also what kind of life would your typical plebe expect?
>>61554002Go back to sleep hashmal you're an angel not a dragon.
>>61550360I imagine it was in waves. During humanities golden age( RoME?) probably hundreds of worlds were colonized and connected. Expanding out through the galactic arm and creating a huge network of supplies and soldiers. When Morrigan went rogue likely whole stellar systems were wiped out as the dragons ripped apart unsuspecting colonies. Now? I wouldn't imagine Round table has more than twenty systems to its name and the eastern reaches the same.
>>61554765Seems like a feature of their cybernetics allowing them to hijack unguarded machines. So if you capture one, make sure to try and keep it away from electronics.Those with good quality cybernetics AND a decent connection can hijack people with varying degrees of success, from trying to force their bodies to do something all the way to full on puppethood.
>>61545645>>61537651>>61537633>>61537606>>61537534>>61537511>>61537484>>61537471I was having trouble coming up with the antagonists to my pirate ship campaign until I saw this thread.The antagonists are the knights of the round table, who hail from Avalon Citadel. Instead of mechas though, they'll have pirate ships based around their knight theme.>Yvain has a lion-themed ship and it breathes fire.>Lamorak has swinging maces on a ship crane.>etc etc
>>61556462Don't forget the occasional Dragonmech that comes to crash the party
>>61556561thats a good idea actually.Dragonborne can be the final bosses.I'm using the quote from TTGL that "All the stars in the sky are our enemies" literally, meaning that there is a dome covering the sky and dragonships are actually the lights up there. When the knights on avalon are defeated I'll have a timeskip in which humanity prospers, but then the dragons rain down and reveal themselves to be the ones who fucked everything up in the first place. Its a 1-1 copy of the TTGL plot.
>>61556593I believe in you anon!
We should put a pastebing or something and some one with GOOD ENGLISH take notes in the important bits.
>>61559382I might be able to at least get it started though I'm phone posting as I have work today.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cm16GUoQtg5IqTe0FM9dKD15TpJGpkOf0Zzi5TS3BGM/edit?usp=drivesdkAs Im a techno savage have a google doc instead.
>>61559851Slowly adding to it but, it is open to editing as well should probably have said that.
So should the Morrigan ai or dragons come first?
Dragons have existed since mankind's golden age, it just wasn't until,Morrigan they became literally world ending. The first dragons were automated defenses designed for far fling colonies, most often ones still being terraformed. As such they were planet bound and dedicated to ensuring there was an Earth like planet to be settled. Many of these worlds still exist, some with whole regimes of mechanized organisms to maintain the environment and now primitive tribes that had regressed during the fall.
>>61560729Morrigan first seems like a good idea, and then the Mordred Corporation creates the Dragons through experimentation
>>61562999I kinda went halfway? Mordred modified old planet bound dragons to make the ones that almost wipe out humanity.
>>61563152That sounds good and makes a justification for Mordred Corp having tons of them at the outset of the war. The facilities making the Dragons were on planets where no one but the staff of Mordred were, there was no real way for anyone else to find out until it was too late.Plus, for all their power, the Dragonmechs are nothing more than uarmored farm equiment
>>61563200Fits the setting really though give a very 40k vibe.
>>61535005There is a vehicle triangle, Tanks are more effective against mechs, mechs are more effective against planes and planes are more effective against tanks
>>61565346>And then SAXON came along with their variable Tank/Plane/Mech machines and broke the triangle over it's knee
>>61565346Given the material its more, tanks beat mechs, mecha might beat dragon and dragon roflstomp both given half a chance.
So, is anyone still in the thread?
so i was looking for some references for the armored vehicles corps that will be the rivals and allies of our knightsbut before posting themi would like to create some dynamic between the armored corps and the knights ,usually there is rivalry and some friction,but at least one house of knights and one mercenary corps of armored vehicles should have a symbiotic and friendly relationthis would be a result of one of the old battles against morrigan,both factions were forced to save each other,and after that their cooperation relation didn't stop
>>61567482I could see other star systems having adopted different doctrines to combat dragons. Perhaps not!germania makes use of super heavy tank and hover craft? Maybe with a orbital winged hussar branch?
I just want to play something that feels at least a little like armored core missions. Maybe such a game doesn't exist.
>there is the principal functions of the armored corps>logistics (bringing food,ammo,materials etc)>transporting troops >helping to give fire support on open and plain fields>''attack and run'' offensives>being the transport of the heavy toys (comm centers,planetary defenses,super heavy cannons,as result of this doctrines their vehicles would divide on>APC's>light tanks with the ability of adding,changing and modify their weapons >super heavy tanks for securing and protecting HQ and important choke points>super yet vulnerable transport trucks
>>61567662I could certainly see a 'Jaeger corps' for the Hanseativ league mentioned up thread that uses super STuGs to take out dragons that make it to the planets under their care.
>>61567559probably knights would be used on urban environment,when the armored corps can be ambushed,and where the remnants of morrigan forces automated machines still workingnow about the friendly relation between at least on noble family and one mercenary corps>it was born at the third battle of hephaestus (a industrial savanah world with great megacities and open fields of sand and dry grass),5 noble knights cohorts were lead to a trap on open fields,hided,they were several anti armor flak nests,the mechs were taking heavy casualties between their squires and at least one knight was disablecontinue the short story if you wantthe pic is one heavy tank
i think fortress and castles of the knights would look like this
>>61567984or like this
>>61567822It was upon the fields of Hesphestus that House Gawain,and House Yvrain forged their bonds, its basalt plains of obsidian Grass left little cover from the fury of the great beast Yadalthoth whose piercing breath skewered all who drew close. It would take the cunning of Yvrains Knight, mertelus lord of castle Merth and master of the great Land Ship Gallant with its powerful atomic cannon and electro missile batteries to push the beast from open land and into the ruins of the Great forge cities within commanded by the Knight lord Tir of Gawain, lord of the castle Cellus and master of the cavalier Dirge was the beast felled.
>>61569405During the weeks long struggle, it was house Yvrain that brought supplies deep into the city. Their convoys of ornithopters braving Wyvern attacks as the flying mechanoids ambushed from ruined mega blocks. Upon the open field House Gawain ships laid down salvos of covering fire as Tanks moved into position flanking the great Drakes of the beast and felling them with accurate fire whilst on the move. Even then, the losses were devastating. Both knights suffered immense losses and to this day have yet to fully recover.
>>61569694>the mercenary armored vehicles of house gawain and knights and squires mechas of yvrain,in the forge of war ,on the darkest hour,ignite the spark of hope on the inhabitants of hephaestus ,creating an unbreakable bond>on times of war or times of peace,both houses can be seen together,lending mutually their strength>where there is a gawain tank,is almost sure a yvrain mecha is close
>>61570169on more technical and political aspects the relation between both houseseconomically:-both houses have a free trade accord,allowing anyone that belong to one house have advantage when it come to trade and buissnes,beetwen this can be point1)less taxes2)reduction of prizes3)shared economic regulations and coin4)government protection5)reputation advantages,if you belong to one house,you have a easy time gaining other people trustmilitar:both houses have alliance,that allow them shared militar and intel resources,and create militar doctrines based on collaboration,some traits of this alliance are-mercenaries that had work with one house and gain their respect,will be put on a list of ''trust'' by the other house,that allow them to have a better time finding employers-convoy protection on open fields by tanks,and mecha protection of convoys on megacities-a shared militar organization for external threats named upon the great dragon that defeated together the ''Yadalthoth legions'',a mix force of knights and vehicles from both houses,that go on expeditionary forces-militar supply tradecultural:-both houses and inhabitant have a deep trust and respect for both armored vehicles and knights-veterans of the third battle of hephaestus are usually comrades and friends,with years of mutual support and battle experience together-a victory festival is celebrated every year as way to remember the immortal friendship between both houses,even the leaders of both huse go and give a public speech-marriages between people of both houses are common-scientific investigation,relics,and new tech improvements are shared
Living within the holdings of most great houses is not terrible. As the corporations need all sorts of materials and at this point act as nation states unto their own. Within the protected Central cluster of colonies many live at a level,of comfort equal to that of our era or even better. Upon the fringes life becomes harder and consequently breeds a harder strain of man to weather the predations of rival houses, raiders and dragons,
So is each mech unique, or are there production models?
>>61571563Probably a combination of the two? I imagine knights over time customise the shit out of their personal machines. Meanwhile squires, yeoman and non Great house likely have stock models.
>>61571563What would a stock knight be like? Just a giant robot in armor with s sword and shield?
>>61572211-generic armor of generic reinforced metal-use cinetic bullets as ammo for guns-doenst have any kind og mobility or speed augmentation being more a walker than a mecha-primitive locking fire system
>>61572284The arbalest is a traditional chassis for most squires. Standing 3 meters in height and equipped with a composite chassis or interwoven nano chain and hardened ceramic plates. These ancient time honored designs are equipped with repeating rail rifles usually in house designs that are able to,deal with smaller draconic weapons. Not overly agile nor equipped with the most modern of electronics these have broken in many a squires hands to the controls of a cavalier.
>>61572467The javelin is a tried and true design.falling into the Knight Class at ten meters in height. Javelin class Cavaliers originated within the halls of the Lancelot tech works upon Proxima B. The javelin class represents the Coporations mindset of long range combat. Typically equipped with a powerful rail cannon or laser array many knights starting out upon their first quest make use of the Javelin.
>>61569694>>61570169>>61570514>As result of their damaged economy and scarcity of resources and manpower,the people of this brother houses,work as mercenarys for other houses and companies,using the pay and resources as a way to rebuilt their destroyed planet and settlements>thank to this ,they had gain a reputation as powerful yet honorable warriors,and with the trait of being humble,and acepting help from other factions>this thanks to the grim reminder that without the armored vehicles,their noble houses probably wont exist today
>>61572467I would go with few chassis and lots of combinations and customization.
>>61567984I think they would look pretty different, depending of the time they were done, the corporations or the taste of the owner.
>>61575176yep i will send some references
Mechs are powered by demons called Merlins, who form contracts with pilots to perform spells or miracles in exchange for blood, years off their life, etc.
>>61575225This one looks like a Bolo.
>>61575302 like this one
some heavy planetary defensesthis is the reason why is so important to protect transport trucks,once this are installed,even morrigan the rogue AI was forced retreat and flank the enemy
>>61575471lol at the amount of pics that i use abot hexiron,they will end up being some kind of militar forge on the lore
now some tanks
>>61575176Definitely. There probably are some over arching design requirements(big, multiple hangars) but likely a castle is as varied as the knights thst helm them. I almost wonder if at their core its a highly modular design where various components can be interchanged.
>>61577304The first castles were built upon ancient Roman designs dating to the days of the first expansion. Like much of Roman design the systems were highly modular and built to withstand the harshness of interstellar space. Many such castles were built upon a core structure this being a central control module along with the main reactor. From this core hangars, quarters and weaponry are added. Of modern castles PenDragon industries is the most respected.
>>61577455>>61577304the mobile fortress would have a ''core'' module that will have the most basic modules ,and the ability of adding several more,or custom the nes existingthe castles would have this scales>no more than a oversized mining truck with some weapons and quarters>a little town size,for middle tier nobles>behemoth/great city size:for nobles that are important at planetary and solar system tier>flying fortress: only owned by the most powerful and rich houses>spacial center,only owned by great imperium and political entities like the corporations ,only one to tree per corporation,with capacity of deploying colonizing,invasion,mining and exploration efforts,self sustained and independent,a little country on their own
>>61577614I like that it gives the players a means to advance as they build their castle over time, adding new modules and advancing eventually into space.
>>61577689yep,this universe sound awesome for /qst/btw after seeing all the firepower of those tanks,is pretty easy to understand why on open fields they ruleone shoot and you are out,but in cities they don't have clear sight to aim and shoot
So what might be some good events from the Legends to borrow? I know we have Arthur injured in battle and called to Avalon/Earth but what else might work. Any notable battlesor the like?
>>61577724I don't get the tank love. Like, the core premise is that literal space knights in giant suits of armor are battling space dragons. Its inherently kinda silly and unrealistic.
>>61578408Badom, a battle vs the Saxons. Wasn't there a group of not-germans mucking about?>>61579184Tanks are cool tough, like the hammer slammers one. The most variety, the better.
>>61580255Weren't Saxons also using veritech fighters or something?
>>61579184nah dont worry i will share mecha references too
>>61581050i finishef searcghin mechas
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cm16GUoQtg5IqTe0FM9dKD15TpJGpkOf0Zzi5TS3BGM/edit?usp=drivesdkSlowly adding material. I need to format it but, anyone got any critiques let me know.
>>61581501nice ,great worksome things you forgot-the precursor aliens of venus,who tech is primitively replicated by humans-the lost legions of cohorts and armored vehicles on space time paradox,inside the alien reality bending structures-the tree big factions about how to face the human future after the war>trying to recreate the gold age,using ol tech and trying to recreate old society ''understanding our past is key to having a future''>trying to expand,colonize and investigate new techs ''only forward,for mankind'>and the conservative factions that doesn't take any decision and just want to keep society as how it is ,waiting ''let's heal the damage on our souls first''
>>61581670Ill work them in. Right now its just events leading up to the current state of affairs.
>how to keep a post alive without using bumps,bu armenthobuy it on your closer book store
>>61581730You're doing God's work, anon.
>>61582620Trying to at least, for real,though if there is anything thst sticks out let me know. Also apologies before hand for formatting as I'm doing this all from my phone.
>>61582693nah anon you are doing a awesome job>try explaining each big corporatiin
>>61582693You are the real MVP brosky. >Thousands of people lives under the ruins of the destroyed cities, surviving in the worse conditions.
>>61582936yep,doc is awesome
>>61581501Personnally prefer the more public 1d4chan but this is goood beginning!>How much we have on regular humanity living in the shadows of our Round Tablers?
Archived the thread on sup/tg/. Surprised no one had done it before now.
>>61584071thanks anon,a question how much can be a thread keep online as long people post?
>>61584100310, then it hits autosage.
>>61584138thanks for the imfo,take a mecha as way to show my gratitude
>>61584162Np. It's good taste to only make a thread once the threads hits around 7-10 page in the cataloge, once auto-sage its achieved. If you mean in sup/tg/, I don't know.
i can easily imagine a outer rim colony being siege by morrigan forceshordes of mindless machines lead by the abominable lieutenants,using their plasma breath to melt entire then suddenly several spaceships apear on orbit,drop pods are deployed and the knights and his squires enter to the battle https://youtu.be/Bw01kePVnkY
So how fast are the mechs? Are they space-capable? If they are, are they actually better than ships for space battles?
>>61585659Very I would say.Yeah, how will they fight dragons, if not.
>>61585659it depend of the model and techsome mechas are can go at sonic speedsothers are fast as sport and militar carsothers are fast as a truckothers are just walkers
>>61585764>>61585659The most Traditional model of Chavalier-Mecha is indeed the classic Walker. They are a bit slow, but usually sport heavier armour and/or weaponry. They are often reserved for experienced Knights because of their inherent dangers.From walkers forward, the speed and armaments of Mechas vary tremendously depending on their maker, forger and the individual preferences of the Knight. Apprentices usually start with one of the slightly speedier but more agile mechas.One notable change however occurs, when the Knight has "Earned his wings" and is allowed to pilot a Mecha capable of fight. Usually it takes decades to reach such mastery of the Walker, the Gun and the Flying. Most of these are extremely fragile but boast tremendous firepower. Some most legendary suits are even capable of spaceflight, but they are the stuff of legends - to take battle to the stars is the realm of Myths.>>61538634X-Caliber was one of such godlike Chavaliers. It has been said that it could defeat Dragons regardless of the battlefield - Space, air, ground, or even water and underground were all equally viable for it. Alas it has not been seen since Arthur himself.
I can see squires starting with basically a gun with legs. Once fully knighted they advance to something able to handle the rigors of large scale combat and go for to toe with at least a small Dragon. After they've earned enough renown and prestige they're granted the right to quest across the stars and are suited with the best their company has.
>>61585994This also begs the question what about similar magical swords as weren't there several magical weapons at the Round table?
>>61587300not necesarily swords,but rather technological relics that gave the round table a tactical edge over morrigan
>>61587388I meant in the actual legends my bad, should have been more clear with that post.
>>61587450Lets see: >Caliburn - PenDragon's high end Longsword class model that was later developed into X-Calibur.>White Hilt - PenDragon Dagger class model, known for their stealth capabilities>Rhon - PenDragon's Spear class (long range) model>Galatine - Gawain's Longsword class model. Famed for it's ability to use Solar radiation as a secondary power source.>Arondight - Lancelot's top of the line Longsword classI see classifications going sort of this way:>Dagger class - smallest class of Cavalier. >Sword type - balanced units >>Shortsword class - similar in size to Daggers but better armed and armored>>Arming sword class - medium sized>>Longsword class - largest of the balanced units used by most corps>>Claymore class - scaled up Scottish longsword >Axe type - heavy armored, heavy weapon units>Spear type - Ranged focus with high mobility >>Javelin class - smallest spear type>>Lance class - largest spear type
>>61587848>other less obvious yet important improvements include-targeting systems-improve radars-sensors of kind of radiation and longitude of light-sensors of chemicals-void seals for combat on places without oxygen,dangerous pressure or dangerous temperature-several kinds of multi purpose ammo-improvement of energy and combustible consumption,allowing a greater range of independence and deploy time without needing recharge
>>61587848I like it.
>>61587848Also don't forget the stolen prototype Clarent. Designed to be on par with Ex-Caliber
>>61587848I can see short sword class being useful as an assault class of unit. Hit hard and fast and run quick.
what othe kind of units would morrigan use?i mean dragons are a threat agains heavy units like tanks,airforce,some space ships and knightsbut they can conquer megacities because of their size doenst allow them to completly enter all the city sections,and surely the dragons would need some kind of infantry or minion support
>>61589917Wyverns and Lindwyrms have already been mentioned as Dragon minions.>Alphyn - quadrupedal pack hunters >Boar - quadrupedal construction dragonkin, very tough but non-aggressive unless attacked>Biscione - stealthy viper infiltrator/assassins>Cockatrice>Drake - Smaller Dragons that can go one on one with a Dagger or Shortsword >Lindwyrm>Manticore>WyvernDragon types:>Basilisk>Brood Mothers>True Dragon>Salamander>Griffin>Tyger
>>61590245sound fine,plus that morrigan can exploit and hack human defenses,turning their automated artillery defenses against themselvesmost of the times,the city's did not fell because the dragons,but because death rays of plasma that utterly crushed their defensive capacitythe dragons just came to clean and securemorrigan is a terrible foe
>>61589917This is crossing the mythological streams a bit, but in Greek mythology, when you planted the teeth of a dragon they grew to be fully armed human warriors. So how about automated mecha soldiers that stand at about 2-2.5 meters tall called dragon Teeth? Each Tooth is themed after the dragon it was created from. They usually are humanoid in form, but not always. All dragons have the ability to fabricate these soldiers, but the quantity and quality of them vary greatly between dragons. Some might spawn hordes of weak and disposable minions, while others create elite vanguards that almost rival lesser dragons in power.Dragon's Teeth were originally created to assist the dragons in terraforming with tasks like constructing buildings, gathering resources, surveying terrain, and repairing the dragons. Dragons require raw resources to create Teeth, which is one of the reason they horde materials. During the Draconic Uprising, this seems like a good term for when the dragons turned against humanity, but I'm up for other ideas the Teeth began to develop combat abilities and got equipped with weapons. Still, they often take a more supporting role and assist the dragon as a cohort might support a knight.
>>61590317that is it,morrigan used the mix of slave hordes with his intel superiority to lead several decapitations strikes on order to take down key systems that would be his industry worlds to feed her war machine ,choke points to contain human counter attack attacks,and fortress to protect and improve his armiesthe decapitation strike happened on a range of time of one week and half:>morrigan would install back doors on key human software>morrigan deactivated survey satellital systems or cloaked his armies ,so they wont be detected by them>morrigan would reprogame the planetary defenses to shoot key points and self destruct>the dragons would attack the worlds,and destroy de unorganized defensive armies>the teeths would establish comms and industry,and purge the poblation>morrigan forces would settle and repurpose the world >new armies and resources would be raised and process would be repeatedthis decapitation strikes,destroyed great part of the outer and middle colonies on record time,before even the companies knew what was happeninguntil sphirus IV managed to send a distress signal about a invasiona light expeditionary force was raised and send to scout and inform back,this would be the first clash between morrigan forces and the round table (that didn't know yet that morrigan was behind this madness)the battle of sphirus IV was completly tactical victory at favor of morriganending with the utter destruction of almost all the expeditionary forceyet a long term was a strategic victory for the round table,that thanks to the sacrifice of a the 1st sphirus expeditionary corps ,they discovered that morrigan was the mastermind behind this attacksand saved the lives of several civilians at the evac
>>61586568I like that. From mini mech scopedogs to nearly gundams.
>when you have some OC you painted that fits within the theme
>>61591760It's that yours anon? That's comercial rpg level from the big boys. I love the rusty look.
>>61587848>some pagan fucker rolls up in his unique DANE AXE class rig and starts knocking knights around until one of the major pilots stops him
>>61591768Yep, my handiworkAnd thanks! Was particularly satisfied with the execution of the rusting.
>>61591824I like specially the helmet with the broken blade, and the battle damage in general, it tells a cool story of some pilot in rough times.>>61587848You can add Pike in the Spear for the very big boys.
>>61589917Seas need love too.
>>61590317I like that. Likely a dragons Lair-ship lands with big fanfare and lots of destruction. Maybe hours, maybe days but within a short time hordes of Dragons teeth made from collected materials scatter outward razing everything around it. Also, would any humans swear fealty to these mechanical monsters? Its been mentioned that Morgan La Fey might exist even post dragon war and the Green Knight apparently takes over human hosts.
So, starting to parse out the Battle of Camlann. The climatic battle of the Dragon uprising. Not sure quite how big it should be in terms of dedicated writing. Also, toying with the idea that Morrigan sent out basically Virus bombs upon sattelites that eventually were meant to infect and corrupt dragons that were too far from it.
>>61594061Good work anon! I would say maybe a decent sized battle to end it all, with some significant heroes meeting their ends.
>>61594141Thsts fair, Arthur will be fatally wounded for sure.
>>61538588>because what matter their is maneuverability a mecha can jump between sky crapers,use cars as shields,climb mountains full of ubstacles etc,something a wheell based vehicle cant So you're saying on a level plain the laws of physics apply, but suddenly in cities they don't?
>>61594202Yeeeah, its why I've been treating Cavaliers as akin to mobile suits. They're agile enough to cause havoc though, dedicated fire from,tanks and aircraft can bring them down.
>>61594330>tanks can carry larger weapons, are more armored and provide a more stable platform for fire>mechs are modular, have to carry weapons with a lower muzzle velocity, are more maneuverable, can only challenge tanks on the field if they have access to cover and dedicated anti-tank misslesmakes sense as a base of balancing I guess
>>61594424>tanks are also seen as less chivalrous than a cavalier and though used by some Houses are not in as common use,>dragons have an easy time picking armored columns off as they are high mobility and able to fight from above. >tanks cannot into space where as Cavaliers with proper modifications can battle in vacuum and microgravity.
Morrigan at its core was a peacekeeper. Attacking pirates and raiders with extreme prejudice. Upon worlds it had conquered men might live but were ever wary of overstepping the machine tyrants bounds. Curfews, work quotas, even simply being upon the wrong side of the street could result in death. It turned cities into prisons making men into little more than moving parts for its great machine.
>>61591449cool design. idk about the psuedo shit tho
>>61594061Keep it shrouded in mistery, its the stuff of legends and all that, so its easy to bolt new info in a pinch.
>>61594202what i'm saying is that tanks have more fire power and are more fast in straight linebut in mega cities,with all the havoc,they can accelerate on straight line ,or can have a clear aim because all the structures (like they could on a plain field)so on megacities what matter is how maneuverability to change of position you have,thats why mechas are so effective therelets put a example>tank on middle of a street>sudenly a building collapse blocking the street>a ambush>they are being shoot from above from the blind spots of the tanks where they cant aim>the tank can aim above and can change of posiition tanks to the block>a mecha would just climb the block and aima mecha doesn't have this blinds spots,and can move over obstacles more easily,that's why on places with lot of obstacles they are perfect as armored unitson plain fields tank are more effective than mechas because they have clear lines of sight is like having a big cannon on a forest,the trees doesnt allow you to shoot,and the trees slow your advance,a soldier that can move between the trees is more effectivethe mechas doesnt have that amount fire power or speed on straigth line with out jets, but they can easily move between obstacles,making them perfect to fight on mega cities>>61594488>usually mercenary corps of armored vehicles make contrats of loyalty to the houses
>>61596357>>usually mercenary corps of armored vehicles make contrats of loyalty to the housesHammer Slammers way I see, nice.One of the advantages of a Knight could be the Myomer or how do you want to call the pseudo-muscles, than lets it move like a giant human, perhaps even sprint and jump or self repairing nanites. Neuro-helmets techno wabble yadda yadda for the great control than you couldn't do with control if you like.
>>61594061>>61595811Good idea to keep the battle unknown. Settings need their mysteries..>What happened at Camlann, papa?It is not for us mortals to know, son. The battle of Camlann spaceport was a desparate attack at Morrigans data centers, or so we have been told. Arthur led the charge, as he always did. The Wing-Engines of X-Caliber shined brighter than the Sun itself as over 400 Cavaliers joined the fray.No greater battle has ever been since that dark day. It is said that Morgana herself commandeered a mightiest of the void-black Basilisks while the King-CEO of Mordred fully embraced cybernetic merger with his Knight and carved through at least a dozen knights single-handedly. But who knows for sure, for in those days the war had disrupted the satellite networks and no civilians were present.The ending of the battle is not chronicled, for there was no survivors of the Last Charge of King Arthur: The battle ended when a cluster of black nukes was detonated - by whom, we can only guess.Merlin knows, of course, but it has not told the Round Table until "they are ready". Or so the stories say.
>>61596521Well I like that a bit better than mine actually. Just wrapping up Camlann but, feel free to comment in the doc if you'd like,
>>61596601https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cm16GUoQtg5IqTe0FM9dKD15TpJGpkOf0Zzi5TS3BGM/edit?usp=drivesdkA link would help wouldn't it?
>>61596521Great job anon. Also we have hit auto-sage, nice.
>>61596712Quick vote to see if we should start a new thread?
>>61596751Until we are near the, I would say hold. Anyone wants to start a good Op for the next one? A fast recap of what we have done until now. My english is quite crap.
>>61590245>>61587848>The Song of Sir Hamself the RedSir Hamself was a brave and young knight in the third last year of the Dragon War. He had been courageous squire of Sir Ebere the Saracen and had proven himself with much Valour. Thus had Ebere requested King Arthur to knight the young Hamself and after the battle of Tribruit He graciously bestowed Hamself the rank of Knight and a brand new Arming Cavalier painted in his house colours: Crimson and Silver.Hamselfs most glorious battle happened during the Siege of Breguoin. I, father Togusa, witnessed these events with my own eyes, as I commanded the supporting tank platoon. Sir Hamself the Red had been ordered to guard the right flank for any fast and deadly Dragon attacks.Passing by two diversionary Boars, for he knew them to be just feints, Hamself spotted a trinity of Griffins. A wiser man would surely retreated, for his mark 4 Arming Cavalier was perhaps match for two but not thee Griffins.But non the less he charged in. He fired his Lance Missile instantly, almost with just pure instinct, and it pierced the dark heart of the lead Griffin. Tacticians would later lament Hamself for using his strongest attack at the beginning, but he cared not. As the Griffins charged in, he took a sideways course and emptied his Rifle into the nearer one, shedding much of its scales but still it charged in. When it jumped, he fired his only rifle-grenade into its stomach - it of course survived but was stunned for a while.Not bothering to reload, Sir Hamself just threw his rifle at the charging third Griffin and used the momentary distraction to draw his Sword. Its heat-array coloured the whole battlefield in shades of blood and shadows.>Cont.
>>61596803Welcome to the second thread for Swords of Avalon, a TG made setting involving Arthurian legend, cyborgs, mecha and giant Robot Dragons. The link below is to the current Google doc that covers the TimeLine leading up to when the setting takes place, that being several decades after the climatic battle of Camlann in which the Rogue AI Morrigan was beaten back by the knights of the Great Corporate houses.
>>61596701i would consider adding the battle of sphirus IV it would be the ''halo reach'' of swords of avalon>>61590648here i explained how was morrigan able to take down so many worlds so fast>>61590245>>61590292>>61590317here are some of the units of morrigan explained>>61591760vote for making the oc mecha of our friend a official minor house?>>61593101i will get references for navy ,like i did for vehicles and mechasthen will get on space ships
>>61596870Ha, you have a knack for that, short, concise and to the point. I like it.>>61596842Reminds me to ye olde pulp/classic sci fi, and I love that sci fi.
>>61596870niceuse the oc of our friend as official banner
>>61596842At this point, the third Griffin chose to use its only Plasma-Breath. But it was too early: Sir Hamself managed to dodge most of the attack but still the attack scorched his armour.Then the beast was upon him. A solid blow to shoulder almost took off his left arm while its bite destroyed his mobility-wings. Yet he retaliated by thrusting his sword, tearing one of its wings from its back. Thus damaged the Griffin retreated few paces and gave Hamself the opportunity to charge in, his sword held high. But the dragon-beast had tricked the Knight and with a strong lash of its whip tripped Sir Hamself. Screaming with rage he fell down as the Griffin pounced on his back. His Cavalier received horrible wounds from the Griffin: The backpack was torn apart and left leg was severed below the knee. But then he struck the ground below him with all his rage and with his reduced weight flew into air and threw the Griffin from his back. Not allowing peace for the dragon beast, he used all of his power to hammer his sword down into its chest. It screamed in agony, tore off half of his helmet and then it was dead.I radioed Hamself at this point, asking if he needed evac, but he only warned us to stay away, for one of the Griffins was still breathing.
i will post the second thread if anyone want to know>>61597280
>>61594488>>tanks are also seen as less chivalrous than a cavalier and though used by some Houses are not in as common use,Makes sense, the less scrupulous houses would hire mercenaries or keep their own armored forces>>dragons have an easy time picking armored columns off as they are high mobility and able to fight from above. I'd imagine SPAAG could defend against them, at least drive them off>>tanks cannot into space where as Cavaliers with proper modifications can battle in vacuum and microgravity.Space fighters
I don't know if this has been covered, do we have FTL travel, and if so how? If the round table does have means of FTL and are cut off from the outer rings of the system how do they communicate with the new systems?
>>61597979it would be like in the pastrange of times that can go from weeks to monthsthere are 3 ftl methods-whormhole stationsincredible expensive,and only work if the place you want to go have a wormhole port tooit can take from some hours to some weeks to get to other system-warp bubbles,incredible slow,yet it can go on any direction and change of direction as long there isn't some kind of space time anomaly and lot of maneuverability -quantic accelerationa point between on speed,but can only go to predetermined coordinates,once the travel begins it cant change of direction or abort,but the coordinates can be anywherecomms use quantic acceleration to send messages
>>61598102So the Table has access to all three, and by the sounds of it the main method of travel would be a group of Warp Gates near Mars each owned by a seat on the Table. Would the Table send explores equipped with Warp Bubble tech to find new world's?
>>61598244yepthere exist one core system (solar system of earth) where there is the gates of mars,each gate connected to other on a system owned by one corporationevery corporation have his home system,and his gate to mars
>>61599079anon dont worry,we are continuing the thread on another post,i posted the link above
>>61599079It's in autosage anon, it means the thread has reached bump limit and bump doesn't do anything. In /tg/ it starts at around post number 310, meanwhile you only have 150 per thread, but it doesn't hit autosage when you reach them.