What would a society be like if the entire nobility was chronomancers?
Everyone would be everyone else's mother, father, daughter, son, brother, sister, and maid simultaneously.And everyone would have an hourglass figure.
>>57709449Gone.The nobility saw the end of their society, through the shear decadence of the nobility. So they decided to go out in style. They unleashed the endless party on the day of the fall. One long decadent orgy of alcohol, sex, drugs, violence. And whenever the day ended, they'd travel back to do it again.The ruins of the palace where it took place are littered with the garbage of the endless party, the palace grounds also encompassing most of the nation. (Half way through, when things were getting cramped, one noble had the idea to go back and add more wings to the palace so there'd be more space.)
>>57709449Apellomancers are more dangerous.
>>57709449You know that actually sounds cool a civilization that spans millennia but is run by the same board of people who can travel across time to run the empire at different periods of it's development.
>>57709449I take it you read the End of Eternity?
>>57709449Sounds like Dune where Leto II decides to let everyone soak up the fleas
>>57709449Are they countered by the guy who uses magic to become someone's father, or would they counter that?
>>57709449>tfw the entire nobility consists of just one person at various stages in their life.
>>57710179Mother-fucker mage's powers are limited, and his alignment keeps him from using it excessively. Chronoturge wins in endurance.
>>57709567I like this. To them, they just live this eternal final day forever and ever, but it has to end, at least to the people not part of the time travel bus. I imagine travellers and adventurers would stumble across this decadent party, have a great time, fall asleep drunk, wake up the next day and be all alone, with party junk and dusty skeletons everywhere, like "what the fuck happened? This place is a mess!"
Why are Oglaf comics so fucking good?
>>57709567Was this inpired by the Death and Venice story?
>>57712532Good art, great sense of humor and an awesome sense of the absurd. And dick jokes.
MIENTRAS, LOS MAGOS DEL TIEMPOOOOOOOOO
>>57709449>chronomancersSociety would devolve into murderfuckingMan was not meant to control time
>>57709449>not killing her again to force her to become your mother>then you can kill her all the time during childbirths
>>57711848Had a good laugh at this one
>>57709449So what would happen if you fuck her?
>>57713792Incest is wrong.
>>57713805She's not your mum yet
>>57709499All You Zombies...
>>57714812>>57713805>>57713792She's both your mother and not your mother at the same time. Fucking her only further solidifies this symbolically.
>>57711848Would he be a chronoturge?
>>57712922No, not heard of that. I'll have to check it out.
>>57709449Time travel is stupid
>>57716847You're traveling forward in time _right now_
>>57716939We'll I'll fucking stop then it's what I do.Rotten time shenanigans.
>>57716939Good thing we all travel at the same speed
>>57717666We actually dont, but the difference is so miniscule it doesent matter.
>>57715615I see...so will that be incest?
>>57718333Quantum incest: it's only incest when observed.
>>57718404Schrödingers incest: It both is and is not incest untill observed
>>57717809Good thing we are all almost traveling at the fastest time speed we can travel, ignoring the fact that the stupid ground is speeding us down by pre-empting our falls towards the future that is the earth's gravity well.
>>57709499>And everyone would have an hourglass figureI laughed
>>57713468>>57713792>>57713805>>57714812>>57715615>>57718333>>57718404>>57718486>Get into fight with Chronoturge>Kill her only to have her pop into your past>Keep at it>All it accomplishes is to have her keep mocking your efforts to end her as you two go further and further back>Younger you starts to realize she's hot>She notices and her teasing starts to take on an increasingly flirtatious bent in her quest to mess with you>Thing only keep getting worse much to her amusement as more and more hormones influence your behavior>Eventually you have a moment of weakness and with a slip of the tongue yell out want to fuck her>Before you have a chance to call it back she calls your bluff and before you know it hatefuking ensues>Still kill her afterwards >Things start getting REALLY weird after that though>Everything comes to a head after a rather degrading, but still very enjoyable bout of /ss/ hatefucking>Where she points out you probably should stop now before you become a motherfucker>Do it anyway>Your new mom retroactively changes your name to Oedipus
>>57709695>my cock stinks now>but hey, I'm a captain!
>>57716813Pretty much what you described. A bunch of aristrocats partying hard in a eternal day time-bubble-thing that Death can't enter without the help of the protagonist.
>>57721455Does murdering her eventually wind up with you trapped in her womb eventually?
>>57723343That's all but stated at the end yes, and if you kill her after you're born you go right back in
>>57723343>>57723553>End up in her womb, unable to do anything but kick in frustration as she spends several months teasing you about your repeated foolishness
>>57721528Unfortunately, it's only an honorary title that confers no powers or benefits.The Captain part, I mean, not your foul dick.
>>57725728Still a captain though
>>57709449I'd have to ask how the nobility managed any sort of peace without just.... jumping farther back than the rest and dominating everyone?Nobles were essentially the big nasty thugs of their era and anyone they could beat up, they simply declared themselves kings over and forced them to pay taxes and shit. Within a kingdom there was CONSTANT power struggle. and court politics.But let's say there's some limit or caveat or mechanic that keeps them all from simply fucking over the rest.Paradoxes. So one rich dick goes back in time and changes something in his favor. Another doesn't like how that got changed and goes back to change it in his favor, causing the first to have the original issue. If they're both not immune and they can rewind each other's time, then you're going to get eternity flipping back and forth. Almost any sort of non-trivial time travel to the past would do this. Let's say that each cycle, their ability diminishes until the point where one of them no longer has the ability to undo the other's action. Revision wars. So any time they WANT to do something that someone else would and undo, they can to weigh the odds that, having done so, they themselves would STILL go back and do the same thing, and also that nobody else would undo it. That sort of strict structure makes nearly any sort of impactful time travel really damn hard. If it's more of a loosey goosey ruleset where... your assasin also retains knowledge of going back in time with you... Then you get a bunch of noble-brats arguing about power struggles 50 years in the future. And it might chain. So if your kid suddenly starts bitching about how a neighbor country fucked you over 50 years in the future, you could yourself go back 50 years and set up something different. And there's no guarantee you have the same kids the next time. Struggles could go up and down the nobility lineage line through the ages multiple times, each to a different son.
>>57719650Came here to post this and am surprised it took that long.
>>57725677Those kicks will hurt her like hell though. By the time he's born, she'll actually be grateful, only for him to kill her again and repeat the cycle
>>57727582>PicIsn't Dave stuck to time loops though
>>57727285>but chu ave 'erd ov me
>>57718404A voyeur makes it incest?
>>57729946A witness is required to lock down it's uncertain quantum incestial state through observation otherwise it will forever remain that it both is and is not incest.
>>57730118You're talking about a person with paracausal powers and their offspring. Considering them a Celestial isn't inappropriate and neither is portmanteau of incestual and celestial. Get with the hyperbolic morals of the non-linear times gramps.
> Temporal Kingdoms of the Elf Lordshttp://goblinpunch.blogspot.com/2016/06/where-elves-go.html
>>57727403>ywn make the ultimate power play by cucking all your male family members by banging their wives as far back as the lineage goes solidifying yourself as the de facto and actual family patriarch>you'll never make the best circumstantial "your mother last night" and "motherfucker" jokes this side of entropy>you'll never cut out your now defunct competitors at the local nexus and have a paradoxical harem for all eternity
>>57730453>ywn make the ultimate power play by cucking all your male family members by banging their wives as far back as the lineage goes solidifying yourself as the de facto and actual family patriarchSo a time travel version of this?
>>57727403>>57730453So, the time nobles are basically the Habsburgs with a delorean. Now we know how they dissapear: Rampant 4th dimensional incest.
>>57730701By the end the sheer number of homozygotes basically has people fucking copies of themselves to make additional copies of themselves.
>>57730701It could also be how they appear. Chronomancy could be an inherited thing. You only get the ability to manipulate time if your parents did.
>>57730814The end result is that all the time nobles are basically just a man and a woman fucking each other again and again, progresively getting worse physically and mentally, loosing all semblance of sanity and craving instant gratification, the idea of "waiting" long forgotten.The land of the time nobles is little more than a derelict city filled with inmortal inbreed mongoloids With absolutely no conception of time whatsoever. Any attempt to harm them result in your entire life turning into misery.
>>57730701>Once this familly tree hits eightyeight generations your going to see some serious shit.
>>57713216What typo was that, and in what book?
>>57709449So how do you kill her?
>>57731053I´m pretty sure your dick stops functioning properly after a point.Charles died childless. He died so hard he almost took the spanish empire with him
>>57731174We tend to go sterile along with longer inter-birth intervals when humans interbreed excessively. Chances are he was sterile and the autopsy did mention "a single testicle, black as coal" though how far the autopsy claim can be trusted is moot since it also claimed he had no blood in his body, a head full of water, corroded lungs, gangrenous intestines, and a heart the size of a peppercorn.
>>57731152At least 2 separate people born AND conceived at the same time who also coincidentally get the urge to kill her wholly separately from the other that lived in close proximity to each other enough for easy walking distance but not close enough for the other to even know about the other and then at least one other identical but generationally older pair, or more, who lived under the same proximity curtain rules.Now no matter what she can only birth prison one of the pair/group leaving the other/s free from that control while also preventing their whole "you never met" scenario from stopping them from coming up with the killing her idea. The back up pair/s and/or group/s who are older all the while will be able to make further attempts while she's busy jockeying the latest gen baby prisoner. Eventually you'll work her back into a corner of some sort where the others prevent her banging dads or back tracking OR she ends up as Eve with Adam killing her.
>>57709449"It was me, barry"
>>57730701Btw this is paternal half-brother of Charles II of Spain. He was smart and handsome.
>>57709499Checking dubs and keks
>>57731174>>57731529>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedigree_collapseI learned something today. At least, the name.
>>57709449Time Lords or Faction Paradox
>>577304741) What is this?2) Why is Tomaru Sawagoe such a freak?
>>57732727The family tree for School Days and related games.From what I've read he's a psychopath who pretty much gets away with everything, including pimping out his lovers/daughters, and working on drugs so that they can get pregnant earlier and earlier.
>>57732727>>57732806I googled his name and OH GOD. This is grotesque.
>>57732806The more I learn about this, the worse it gets
>>57732806I googled it a bit and can only wonder why something like this was created in the first place
>>57727795She'll just have to keep going back till when you're too young to kick then
>>57727795I mean she could start getting frisky with his dad, which means everytime he kicks her, she decides that you need a baby batter bath.
>>57738109>>57738603>Cause her too much trouble she'll jump back far enough you're too small to and maybe even get frisky with your dad if you really bug her
>>57709449It would be like a Sci-fi singularity setting where no one knows who their leaders are and even though the class system is established it's not reinforced by anything but timemagic Some run around hanging out with peasant and you can't make them out from anyone, others stay in towers and don't do shit (because they probably already did it)
>>57737773>>57734926I think one of the games implied that he was stabbed in the dick by one of his girls at the endeven then one of his sons is Makoto from school days (pic related) and Makoto's sister was living with him
>>57729880Yeah but john doesn't have enough clock motifs
>>57738667That's hot. I only wish ineedsleep would write more.
>>57743084H-how did you know it was me?Also while I like the idea, it's not really inspiring much for a full blown bit of green beyond that summary
>>57709449All the Nobility are the same Chonomancer. Sorta like a Christmas fruit cake, there's really only one and it has been in circulation for nearly a century.
>>57725677...that's my fetish
>>57709695Got a chuckle out of me
>>57743135I could tell by your writing style and fetishes, I've read a lot of your work. Damn, would have love to read about a story about a guy who winds up stabbing a female chronomancer until she ends up unbirthing him due to time shenanigans, then gets her revenge by having a fuckload of sex to turn the guy's womb house into a bloated sea of cum.
>>57713216I'm 7 pages in, how did I make it this far?
>>57743796ThanksAnother reason I'm not going to write is I'm about to go to bed, but if the thread is still here I might try to get something out, no promises so probably not to be hones, but if I did it'd probably be more about the /ss/ and final unbirth than what comes after
>>57730701You would think the nobility would get the hint that fucking your family members isn't the greatest of ideas.
>>57746454They had that face ever since the middle ages though.You can still spot a Habsburg easily even in the current generation unless he's rocking a beard of some type.
One motif I actually enjoy about Oglaf is horned helmets being a form of wizard headgear, and non beardy dorfs
>>57709449I imagine everyone trying to fuck each other over using time travel and since killing one another won't work out with the person they are trying to kill going back in time to stop the guy from killing him as a baby or killing his mother or banging her, they'd find more indirect ways to fuck with each other. This would be something they just continuously do,
>>57746454They did, but it was how they kept titles together before things like elective monarchy or simple primogenture.
>>57748354>before things like elective monarchyyou mean after
bumping for writefaggotry. (Give me a bit)
>>57709906You're saying one of them will travel back in time to prevent everyone from becoming chronomancers, so that mankind can start exploring space instead of time?
One of the issues that the Campaign for Real Time has with time travel is the issue of pre-escalating warfare. The Encyclopedia Galactica includes in its description on time travel a mathematical proof that any instance of pre-escalating war will immediately negate itself. It then explains that, because they will not exist in the final version of the edition, no examples of pre-escalating war or parties participating in such a conflict will be given. Unlike the Encyclopedia Galactica, whose primary audience is snooty academics, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy is intended for common travelers interested in where they can go in the current now. As such, The Guide gives the following description of Pre-escalating Warfare:PRE-ESCALATING WARFAREThe Concept behind Pre-escalating warfare can simply be summarized as “escalating war in reverse”. The principles behind it are as follows: First, that if someone strikes you, you should strike them harder. Second, the best strike is the one the one the enemy does not expect. Third, a preemptive first strike is the least expected strike of all in a conflict. Time travel, of course, allows every combatant to strike first when ever they want. The result of this is that the beginning of a pre-escalating war goes farther and farther back in time, as the conflict grows larger and larger. One example is the conflict in The APPARETHEC STAR CLUSTER
>>57751247(this should continue with a slowly changing entry on the The Apparethec Star Cluster, going from having two friendly alien civilizations where a sports team of one species was recently murdered by time-traveling hooligans of the other species before they can win a match - to two ancient highly militarized species stuck in an eternal war - to a cluster empty of any planets, having been consumed by a migrating pod of Zuvusellic planet-eaters. Admittedly, I have no idea how I would write that correctly. It would then go back to the original entry, with the final sentence replaced by: "There are no known examples of such a conflict, and it is suffice to say that none will ever happen. One of the primary selling points of The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy over the Encyclopedia Galactica is that is much more concise."
>>57732367He wasn't handsome, he ALSO had the distinctive Hapsburgs Jaw, I think.
>>57751358Isn't the enclopedia written by several people?
>>57738667I'm kind of thinking the worst thing she could do is start drinking alcohol while your in there or start eating all the foods you find disgusting.
>>57756821Would he even be born the same person? Seeing how she would be his new mom? The real mind/time fuckery would be the guy being reborn as a girl; grows up yo find he was his new mother all along.
>>57758231So... He was his arch nemesis's son, but also her daughter, but also her, so he was his own arch nemesis, but also his own mother, and his own daughter at the same time? I can dig it.
>>57756821Former's a bit too dark for my liking, I like the idea she mostly just fucks with you but no real permanent damage given it's impossible for you to do the same to her>>57758231>Would he even be born the same person? Well the impression I got from the comic was that he somehow remembered his past/future each time she jumped back, so yeah, it'd still be him I'd say, at least mentally>Seeing how she would be his new mom? I wouldn't be adverse to saying there were some effects for that reason, but it would still be him, at least mentally>The real mind/time fuckery would be the guy being reborn as a girl; grows up yo find he was his new mother all along.Can't really think of a way to loop things like that honestly, which is kind of a pity as I do like the idea she can somehow tweak prebirth events or do strange shit like keep him trapped in a looping pregnancy but allowing herself to progress in timeThough now that I'm thinking about it I could buy a handwave that after becoming his mother she does something so even if she doesn't fuck his dad he'll be her next son
>>57759060Yea that was a bit dark, sorry. I'd like the fact she fucks with you throughout the experience.
>>57748482Which Dr. Who material touches on this topic?
>>57738667>getting caught between a lovemaking session between your father and chronomother while your the size of a fetus smaller than your father's cock and being aware the entire timeThat's sadistic as hell and kind of hot what the fuck is wrong with me
>>57759637No worries, there's some really dark stuff I'm into I'll admit, but that's just not sexy to meThough now I'm thinking of an ending where you get regressed back into an egg and she opts to NOT fuck someone leaving you in her womb until she does>>57760280Just imagine, because magic you're still able to hear her and his dirty talk, and some of it is focused a bit at you
>>57760404She'd have to time it right if you're an egg, otherwise you'll just fall out of her vagina during her period. >because magic you're still able to hear her and his dirty talk, and some of it is focused a bit at youHoly hell, this is hot, but it also kind of makes me feel like a cuck
>>57760448>She'd have to time it right if you're an egg, otherwise you'll just fall out of her vagina during her period.Something something minor time manipulation so it's never your turn and/or something something it's only you if she'd end up pregnant>Holy hell, this is hot, but it also kind of makes me feel like a cuckI can sorta see the logic there I suppose, weird enough it's not what I'd consider it though...Any other ideas what she could do while you're trapped in there?
>>57760528>Any other ideas what she could do while you're trapped in there?Kegel exercises>tfw you're trapped in your chronomothers vagina while she exercises it>tfw she slowly gets better day by day, and every time you feel the vagina walls squeeze you a little bit tighter>tfw she fucks your father, and climaxes while your tiny fetus is pinned between her vaginal walls and your father's enormous penis, turning your into a red smear on his dick>tfw she repeats that process day after day, reversing time, slowing it down, and savoring each moment
>>57760684Again, not my thing, partially cause it does nothing for me, partially cause I don't see her disliking you that muchThough Kegel exercises could be a thing
>>57760792Well, I'm all out of ideas. This isn't even my fetish.
>>57760824Fair enough, there's a reason unbirth is usually the end of things I suppose
>>57718855Technically it might not be gravity but curved space/time.
>>57737773Relatives Jou Inou (father)Tomoe Sawagoe (aunt(or half-sister)/wife)Moegi Inou (paternal half-sister/ex-lover)Asagi Inou (paternal half-sister/ex-lover)Kagura Inou (daughter/half-niece(Moegi)/ex-lover)Ayumu Inou (son/half-nephew(Moegi))Youko Saionji (daughter/half-niece(Moegi))Moeka Sekihata (daughter/half-niece(Moegi)/lover)Hajime Inou (daughter/granddaughter/half-grandniece(Moegi)/ex-lover)Mai Kiyoura (daughter/granddaughter/half-grandniece(Moegi))Rina Inou (daughter/granddaughter/half-grandniece(Moegi))Rio Inou (daughter/granddaughter/great-granddaughter/half-great grandniece(Moegi)/lover)Risa Inou (daughter/granddaughter/great-granddaughter/great-great-granddaughter/half-great great grandniece(Moegi)/lover)Rika Inou (daughter/granddaughter/great-granddaughter/great-great-granddaughter/great-great-great-granddaughter//half-great-great-great grandniece(Moegi)/lover)Shun Hazama (son)Toki Hazama (daughter)Kuu Hazama (son)Yukari Nagawa (daughter/half-niece)Tomomasa Sawagoe (son/half-nephew)Touri Sawagoe (daughter)Youji Shiba (possible son)Misao Mori (possible daughter)Sekai Saionji (granddaughter/half-grandniece(Moegi))Makoto Itou (son)Itaru Itou (daughter)Taisuke Sawanaga (granson/half-grandnephew(Moegi))Setsuna Kiyoura (granddaughter/great-granddaughter/half-great-grandniece(Moegi))
>>57709449from the outside it would look like chronomancers rise in a huge wave of civilization out of nowhere and disappear just as mysteriously. they're clumping up to interfere in wars and art movements and such that they care about, while avoiding the ones they don't like.
>>57765501So would it be wave after wave in that case?
>>57765501>chronos join art movement A vs. movement B>choose side A>show up to an art gallery to be snide to side B>side B is all chronos from the "future">B claims A ruins the future of art>A won't take that kind of shit>cue TimeWars: Suicide Edition
You can't have multiple chronomasters.You can have one. Someone who had the ability to move forwards and backwards in time as they wish. To manipulate events to their favor.The moment there is a second, conflict arises. Two conflicting visions with control over time. The two will clash, at some point, and then it's inevitable that the number will go to down one or fewer.
>>57760860If you're still around she picks someone other than your original father to fuck, changing how you turned out, including race, gender, etc.