Legendary Arms RPG Kamigakari ThreadPrevious thread: >>56403336Last time:>- storytime>- GMing advice>- Mononoke are wierd>- Stylistic opinions on weapons and opinions on the comfort or lack thereof of pants and shortsBaseline stuffhttp://www.mediafire.com/file/183vmgy8b3w1uj3/Kamigakari.rarExpansions and erratahttp://pastebin.com/u/RoyalTeaRedGoogle Docs Character sheet (for if you play online)https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xY5uiJleOpnlh93SGLq2_iKteOFZnlMH1X-MtEDsWsw/edit#gid=0Mononoke homebrew Guide, FAQ, And quick rules cheatsheethttps://pastebin.com/u/HomebrewAnonJTTRPG Discord - Look for games in "On-Topic", Not "General"https://discord.gg/9RUTurBKamigakari is a JTTRPG Focused on episodic storytelling, with simple but tight mechanics. Its design goal is to start players spread out, getting involved with the episodes peculiarities, and eventually coming together to fight a big bad, A la Power rangers, Kamen rider, Magical girl shows, and other such shows in that vein.TL;DR, Its a Monster of the Week Format game with an emphasis in the fluff on high power shenanigans of just about every type.Remember boys and girls, Japanese schedules suck, so JTTRPGS are optimized toward quick and easy sessions. That said, they can be adapted for longer ones.
yeah boi, thread>tfw no game today, because GM was sick
>>56587366are you the one who posted >>56494103 ?
>>56587706Hopefully you will have better luck next session.
>>56587706What kind of character did you make?
>>56587366I know that feel, my GM had to bail on our last session to. It's understandable but still a bit of a shitter
>>56590624A Cyborg Legacy User B/Dragon Carrier A, the INVINCIBLE steel superman, the embodiment of VICTORY, Unit 04, Sieg Murasame!
>>56590836Is that how they are marketed by their employer or how they see themselves?I'm imagining something similar to how Robocop was marketed early upon release by OCP but done up in a flashy japanese style.
>>56591556Originally named Unit 04 for the Victory Project (aka "V Project"), he was then taken under custody by a woman named Shiori Murasame, who, being the fun-loving and screwy lass she was, decided to make him her "adoptive son", and deigned to call him Sieg. (Even then, she occasionally calls him "Jeeg" or "Zeek".) Though I haven't gotten around to working with the GM in getting him worked into the setting, admittedly because of a lack of initiative on my part. Please admonish me.Pic related is the ideal Titan Armor body. You might not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
>>56586721Hot damn, you got that OP down.Nice. I woulda said something about crowdsourcing some OP pics, since "Yes" won in the poll, but otherwise awesome.
>>56591862I mean, if he's using the baseline setting, its not hard. You have most of the details needed hammered out right there.
>>56593516This might work as one
>>56593516Oh sweet. I tought I was going to be stuck only using official art in anyKamigakari Thread I ended up making.Was not looking forward to that.I'm glad that isn't the case.
>>56591862>the ideal Titan Armor body. You might not like it, but this is what peak performance looks likeSo are you saying the character is a preening egotystical jock/bodybuilder sort?Or were your making a reference to something from the image's source material?
Is this the nuclear fission and fusion touhou?
>>56594507The card that I pulled the art from is known as Perfect Raizer, made by having a mecha piloted by another mecha inside piloted by a human. Through the perfect pilot, technicians, and engineers, it is the super fightin' robot around.But in the case of Sieg, he's a pretty shy guy (mostly to hide the fact that he's a cyborg and shit), and I'd figure his Titan Armor would be pic related, or something like that.
>>56594853have mech to go with your mech.
Has anyone tried throwing the manual and sheets into Tabletop Sim? I tried after converting the pdf but then I realized I'd much rather blow my brains out than try and add 400+ pages individually.I wish I knew Lua scripting.
>>56594759Yes, that is Reiuji Utsuho. Why do you ask?
>>56594986curiosity.I found here character design interesting when it was posted last thread.
>>56595244Thats fair. She's one of the touhou characters thats easily an odd man out.
>>56594950So far as i'm aware, no one has tried as of yet.I'm not sure why you would, for that matter. Roll20 is far simpler, to my knowledge.
>>56598694IMO Roll20 is a chore to use and TTS is a treat, although I've only used them both from the player side
>>56598739>roll20 is a chore to useI mean, not any moreso than any other tool. There's always gonna be a certain amount of work you will need to put in, and there's no way of really getting around it.Still, more power to you if you wanna use TTS.
>>56598777I just have problems with it often, like the game app not properly loading, images not uploading, slow response to moving tokens/typing in chat, jukebox never seems to work, etc which to be fair are usually just on my end. I picked up TTS recently and I've only played a few games through it but it seems to run fairly smoothly in comparison? I wouldn't know anything about uploading new game types to it though
>>56598841Uploading new game types to TTS wholesale is a right pain in the ass. As for your issues, my condolences. Roll20 isn't all that bad to use if you don't have those issue's, but i can see it being a pain if you do.
>>56594069If anyone has anything they think would look good as an OP Pic, feel free to post it. I'm gonna save it all to a separate folder, for future use.
>>56600702I've got a bunch of full arts for Fire Emblem Cipher. I don't got all of them, but I have a fair amount.
>>56600813I generally try to avoid stuff i can actually verify the brand of, but FE has some pretty good still shots in its artwork, so go for it.
>>56600702or just put something on the end of the filename when you save it to make it easier to search your pic folders for it later.or use tags.
Does this make anyone else think of a Divine Soul weapon that's found out their new partner is delightfully open minded?
>>56600898I'm gonna share a secret with ya cap, i've never once changed the filename on any of the stuff i saved from here. I just have it somewhat memorized.The only reason i'm putting it in a different folder is that it serves a different purpose.
>>56603003Thats a pretty interesting one. Fungal cities are weird, but a neat though.
>>56603284Like majin buu?
>>56603284That's pretty sweet, not gonna lie.
>>56586721>Still no updated translation
Would any of you happen to have pervy old mage dudes? Or old guys with shit eating grins?I'm doing a pervy old mage guy character for a game but its surprisingly hard to find art of that. Or cute frankenstein-esque girls. One or the other.
>>56603386I'm gonna be honest, I think Kamigakari anon is wholesale MIA. I tried contacting him via pastebin but that hasn't born any fruit, and its all i had. So i dunno what to do about it for now.
>>56603393Tried to get you the latter, isn't quite "cute", per se.
>>56603407Well shit. Stalled a game of my own with my group because I thought it would come out soon.
>>56603428Yeah, i'm sorry if i made it seem that way. At one point, kamigakari anon just sorta fucking dissappeared.So, sorry bout that man. The game still works perfectly well in its current state, though. If he doesn't show up soon, someone else may well do something about it, but i'm not holding my breath on that just yet.
>>56603480Hmm, I should just start it up again. Might have to start making that post-WW2 prologue...Also, wish the expansions were in one PDF rather than in several pastebins. Gets annoying having to open them up all the time.
>>56603579A bit, but each one is a part of a complete book in and of itself, so its better to keep them seperate for now.
>>56603418Well, the issue is i don't need a humunculous, but an actual frankenstein type, with the stiches and shit.
>>56603807>>56603393Not sure exactly what you're looking for, since there's actually a surprising amount of frankenstein's monster-esque stitched girls, but here's one I found that's pretty good.
>>56603995Pretty much anything works, and that ones actually really good. If you got anything else i'd like to see it though.Imagine one using a giant ass hammer.
>>56604099Can't find any using a giant hammer, or hammer, unfortunately. Some with guns I could find though.In case you're curious, I found these images using gelbooru and the tags: rating:safe solo monster_girl stitches. I'd suggest perusing through the pages there with those or similar tags if you're on the lookout for more character art.
>>56604386Well shit. I figured gelbooru would probably have stuff, but i didn't think anyone would give me the tags even.Thanks. Also, thats another cute franken-waifu
>>56604504That was a smaller pool than expected, and over half of it was zombina. God damn it.I may just go with >>56603995 because i like the idea of a loli franken-chan with a giant ass hammer.
I didn't know what a Pearl coat was until today.now I know something I want to add to the costume of the next mahou shoujo I play.
>>56603579>I should just start it up again.good idea.
I'm just gonna bite the bullet and ask, since the game finder threads aren't much help.Is anyone here looking for a Kamigakari game, or players for one? I'm in one already, but I want to play more of the game, and I've been looking for a while, so I thought to ask here, even if it ain't the best manners.
>>56606606Been looking for a game myself.
>>56606606There's a fair amount of people round that haven't played a game for lack of a gm or players, stick around long enough and you'll find someone.
>>56606606I'd be interested if you decide to run a game, time/day depending
>>56606606I'm looking for a game.
>>56606654>>56607511>>56607927Same anon (>>56606606) here.Although it'd be my first time GM-ing, I am interested in it, especially for an enjoyable system like Kamigakari.My personal time-zone is UTC+1, available on fridays, saturdays, and week-day afternoons/evenings. Other than that, I am flexible in regards to voice/text, and setting and theme of the campaign.If that all sounds fine with you, you can contact me at Sporelittle#4591 and I'll ask you some questions.S-Sorry for advertising in this thread instead of the game finder.
>>56609673Hmm, I'm nine hours behind of you...Damn it all, looks like I'm dropping out of this one. Can't see a way.
>>56609673UTC+1 is parts of Western Europe and Africa right?
>>56610338>>56609673 hereYeah. Eastern US would be UTC-6, if I'm correct. That being said, I can afford to play in the evenings.Already have one player.
>>56610543>tfw i thought it was FFTA for a second
Is there a reason the bullseye/circle talents have two different symbols? Like for Arc Slayer A, Spirit Void and Invincible Manslayer both have circle-shaped marks but they look different. One is thinner than the other, and it's consistent for all styles. Is it aesthetic or am I missing something?
>>56613389So far, I see the thicker circles are actives while the thinner ones are passives.
>>56609673Luckily, setting stuff up for kamigakari is much simpler than, for example, Dnd/PF or shadowrun, or most systems, i'd argue. The book is capable of making new scenario's fairly easily and rolling on the tables can yield interesting results.On top of that, Since the stats are already determined for mononoke and such, there's much less rolling on the GM's end and more deciding, speeding up things a fair bit.The hardest part is hammering out a story, but isn't it always?
>>56613389I'm gonna be honest, that might just be PDF formatting. For the sake of the rules themselves, they mean exactly the same thing, so don't worry bout it too much.
>>56614457I thought so since it doesn't happen in the pastebin expansions, it's just consistent enough I thought it might be something else.
>>56616353Yeah, i noticed that as well, but it doesn't mean anything in terms of the system. Its just a weird visual glitch in the PDF.
>>56614446Learning a system is easy, writing a plot is less
>>56619253True, but a system can make things much harder if it isn't well structured. I'm not gonna say kamigakari is the best structured thing ever, but it is simpler than average. Writing is always the hardest part of any campaign. There's no getting around that.
I hope Kansainon and their players show up and we get more storytime.I want to find out what happens next.
>>56619720>Mondaiji-tachiI like your taste. That said, i agree. Kansai anon or storytime anon, either or.
>>56619869In the meantime, we could just dump some stuff. Never hurts to have a larger library of pics.
>>56621053just because it makes me laugh a little.
>>56622299>Dubs,Trips, and dubs againWell, the laws of probability have deemed it necessary to approve of the qt white haired goat girl.Congratulations to you, anon. That waifu has passed the test.
>>56623206You know it.
>>56619720Player here Kansaianon is running RIGHT NOW.I'll make sure to tell him the people demand more storytime.
>>56624129God damn. That timing.
>>56609673Game is full now. Hopefully anyone else who was interested in joining a Kamigakari game finds one soon.
>>56624129You guys have fun.I look forward to more storytime.>>56624322>Game is full now. Hopefully anyone else who was interested in joining a Kamigakari game finds one soon.Damn that was fast. I hope it goes well. If you have any openings in the future do let us know.
>>56624129>Player here>Kansaianon is running RIGHT NOW.>I'll make sure to tell him the people demand more storytime.Sweet.
>>56626954In the meantime, i'll dump the previous storytimes for anyone that doesn't have em yet.
>>56627155And i just noticed thats the wrong god damn storytime.
After watching Thrilling Intent, I kinda want to try running this. But my times would be extremely late on days where I have multiple days off or very late shifts.
>>56625381Storytime hopefully incoming. Just finished my latest session and all I can say is WEW LAD.
>>56627198>>56627266Times don't really matter if you intend to do it online. you can probably find a group able to work it out.
>>56627426>>56627421Oh shit, storytime incoming!
>>56627545Just one more after this
>>56627573Also, i never mentioned this in the previous thread, but anyone thats actually watched gochuumon wa usagi desu ka is alright in my book.
>>56627421Alright!>>56627573Thanks for the catch-up dude. Can you post the rest of the other one too in a bit?
>>56628395Yeah sure. I'll give that after a little bit though. I don't wanna bloat the thread with to many of these all at once.
>>56627155one more of these to bump until Kansai anon gets his story together, as i need to pass out.
>>56627266As long as the time zone difference isn't too bad, I'd be fine with it.
>>56629774Alright lets get down to it. We kick things back off again with a meeting back at the DHS HQ. The crew outside of Shizune finally gets to meet the two other mages Furiten and Mei Ling. Futaba and Furiten have an exchange and Jagasaki notices something a little off about him in that the sense that he gives off a similar vibe to himself. Furiten meets Akira, the last time he had heard about Akira he was expecting a boy and here was a girl. He makes a double take and points out that Akira should be male. Shizune chastises him for being rude.This is the closest anyone every gets to date at figuring out what exactly Akira is.As a point of order, the main reason Goezome has invited everyone back is to tell everyone how horribly screwed the organisation is over in Osaka. They are screwed in precisely three ways. The first of which is the phenomena of people within the Osakan populace being ten times more compatable with the Aramitama. This compatability forming a symbiotic relationship between monster and man granting supernatural powers. The research team settled on a name for this phenomena, they called it the "Яeverse" and as such the DHS society would have to deal with Яeverse Godhunters. They deduced that Dahlia must have been one of these such Яeverse Godhunters.So theres that, also the fact that there have been sightings of Яeverse Godhunters that match the description of two missing middle school girls, actively causing chaos in the city. The second problem the DHS would have to deal with would be the increasing activity of The Church in Osaka.
>>56630892Osaka being a strange place at this point in time, it would not be unusual for The Church and the DHS to be operating in the same city, if not for a fact that the two groups were in an active feud. They would need to secure some kind of ceasefire, because Lord knows they don't have the budget to fight a war with a bunch of crazed templars.The last problem would be Osaka's unsecure leylines. Aramitama love to sit on these things and having them as open as they are is bad news, it means that any old person can start sapping away at that power. Barriers would need to be errected in order to cut off future Aramitama.First point of order, dealing with these Godhunters. They took a look at the information packet on the girls. The two of them are dressed in Orange and Blue, they look like Magical Girls, though to call them that is a horrible corruption of the original phrase as they draw their power from the power that is the Aramitama. The girls go by Yamada Aoi and Renji Miku. Akira vows to teach them of the true justice of magical girls, implying Shizune should dress up to set a good example for them.
>>56630905The crew does some digging and they find the pesky pair causing trouble on the outskirts of the city. The duo see's our intrepid heroes and they perform their introduction."Evil shall be banished from this land!""We are the harbingers of purity!""With the power of Love!""Friendship""Harmony""Incredible Violence""Together we will bring an end to the darkness" "We are Яebirth of Justice!" And what would a super team introduction be without pyrotechnics. The building behind them catches on fire and explodes. Akira is disspointed that they didn't get to invest in magical girl costumes and Jagasaki is confused at their chanting. Aoi points and says "We shall know no evil from the likes of you" to which Shizune asks Ito "So. What did you do to these girls". Ito proclaims innoence because those girls don't even have boobs. Renji gets rather flustered by this. They try their best to question the girls as they can before it comes down to combat. They ask about the Dahlia but that only makes them madder, Renji in particular. Aoi manages to calm her down with the only thing that could concievably do the trick at this moment in time, yuri. They share a kiss and this brings out the main threat from two of them. Two devilish looking creatures coated in fire and ice. Aoi is covered in a layer of protective ice crystals and Renji's skin burns hot like fireCombat starts, the two creatures are seperated far from eachother and inch ever so close every turn, at the same time Aoi is slinging spells and Renji is getting up and close with her sword. The group agrees they should go easy on them because they are just little girls.
>>56630921Akira gets up to Renji and promises to be gentle. She hit her with a hurricanrana knocking her onto the ground. She then elbow drops her stomach, with a critical hit. Akira isn't done yet. A girls justice is in her fists, she wraps the girl with her arms and slams her back into the ground with a suplex. ROLLING!, and then another, JUSTICE!, she then delivered a devastating throw behind her dropping her back hard into the ground FLASH! Akira just Astral Finished the hell out of Renji.Renji is literally crawling right now and Ito bats her finished with a set of attacks, with that she is out of the fight. The arena grows incredibly cold as there is no fire left to balance out the ice. The fire devil stops moving as the ice one slowly makes it's way to it. The crew deduces something bad is probably going to happen should the two meet so they set out to stop it.Aoi fights hard for her fallen comrade as they are hurting things that are precious to her. Monster of the week Akira gets her hands on Aoi. Akira sweeps her off her feet and catching her by the ankles giving her a tilt a whirl spin before throwing her up into the air sending her flying as she hit the ground, chasing after her before putting her into a painful clutch, all the while chastising her about how everyone is fighting to protect something they love. If I were to describe this scene, have you even seen Naruto? Remember that bit where Rock Lee fights Gaara? Remember that bit where Lee is so fast that Gaara can't put up his sand wall? It was like that, except replace sand with ice.
>>56630933Aoi is stuck in this painful hold and Shizune shoots her with a GRAND SPELL INVOCATION and Aoi explodes and all the ice in the area flies in all directions like frozen pieces of shrapnel. Both girls are down for the count. Now that the girls are defeated the priority is to make sure they didn't die, Shizune tries to act all cool saying "Yeah, make sure we didn't kill them" before immediately realising there is no reason for her to act cool and she immediately goes "DAMN IT WE DIDN'T OVER DO IT DID WE!?"The group decides the best course of action is to take them to a secure place and to get them healed up. Taro still has his magical girl healing powers and the two girls were fairly protected by fire and ice so they weren't as worse off as they could be had they been regular humans.The safest place for these girls to be, the Onigata Love Hotel.Writing up the next part now.
>>56629837It has more to do with my work than anything else. I work at Walsmart push carts and my work days are random each week.I feel GMing a game may be more plausible than being an actual player. I shall read over the material and attempt a one-shot to see how it fairs. I DMed a 5e game once and it was a smashing success, so I feel hopeful.
>>56631013Ah, Walmart. Such a pain to be in retail.Again, been looking for a game, so depending on the time, I can be up for it.
>>56630892Oh boy here we go!Probably going to pass out since it's well past midnight but looking forward to reading this in the morning
>>56630892>Яeversei didn't know kansainon-sama played Cardfight!! Vanguardrespect: EXPONENTIALLY INCREASED
>>56631121It may be awhile. I may not beable to actually try that one shot til around the 5th and even if going further will depend on that's success. Basically I'd need a small group that'll be available whenever I call em (I live in the EST zone)
>>56631164Spike Brothers for life, I haven't played in ages though because I had to stop after I got a new job. The last deck I played was Supernova spikes on their release.Second favourit archetype is actually Nova Grapple Blaus. I don't care if they're outdated!
>>56631191Ah, I see. Well, I'm PST, so a few hours difference is fine.
>>56631208Ooh, a man who favors FULL FRONTAL ASSAULT. Yes, give it to me! >Justice unites as one, and crushes the darkness in TWO! True Ultimate Dimensional Combination, authorized! Final ride, True Ultimate Dimensional Robo, Great Daikaiser! Let's do this!
>>56631303I long since stopped watching the show but it was fun in it's own way. I think part of what made me want to play SB was the fact that for a period of time it was the deck relegated to goofs and throwaway villains.Hell a friend of mine shared a clip of the show when Rising Supernova and pulling off the sickest nastiest first turn stride combo, only to lose like a huge fraud because Atem himself might as well be behind the wheels when the protagonists are playing.
Out of the blue question:Is it possible to make something akin to a Stand using artificial regalia?
I'm too drunk for this thread
So if ya'll are playing on Discord, what do ya'll use for dice/movement?
>>56633353It depends on the group. I have one that prefers everything in-character done on Roll20 while another likes to only use it for combat-related stuff
>>56633615I will add I personally prefer the latter since players and GMs like to go more in-depth when on Discord. Might just be anecdotal but it feels like Roll20's smaller chatbox makes people engage in RP less and focus on mechanics more
Is the jttrpg discord typically slow? I visited it looking for a game, and there's nothing particularly recent.
>>56634322I'm not familiar with that particular server but in my experience once a game is posted it can fill up in hours, and new games don't start up often. Plus once a GM has found a good circle of players they usually stick together
>>56613389This confused me too. Thanks for asking.
>>56634424Eh, shame. I'm in a game now, but I was looking to join another since I learned the system and all.
>>56631013Well, ask if you can have one day specifically off each week.As an example, i work at domino's, but when i joined up i asked specifically for sundays off so i could do thing and not have an entirely random schedule.
>>56631752Yeah, in the main book there's a ranged or magical weapon called the cursed doll. Stand effects would just need to come from your talents.>>56632001Perhaps not drunk enough?
>>56634322I'm gonna be honest, i have no idea how it works on a regular basis, and you shouldn't expect to find games for this in there. Its more of a tool to set up games between anons in the thread than anything.Also, now that i'm conscious i'll post the rest of isekai storytime.
>>56624322hamburger helper>>56630892Oh boy.
What is the "S E A L E D" skill (the one in the true regalia of chronos expansion)'s use and function?
>>56636205I'm gonna be honest, i have no idea. It may just be Kamigakarianon's humor at work as a placeholder skill.
>>56637677>>56639449Thats some... interesting art you got there.
>>56640261well, if we're posting less than conventional art, i guess i'll go with this.
>>56630953>when your party is the monster of the week for another show and you beat them down hardThat shits hilarious right there.
>>56630921>"Evil shall be banished from this land!">"We are the harbingers of purity!">"With the power of Love!">"Friendship">"Harmony">"Incredible Violence">"Together we will bring an end to the darkness">"We are Яebirth of Justice!" I've had a bad day. This made it better.Thank you.
>>56643606Unconventional art, or fate art? Because you'd have a better time on google with the latter. That ones an ending from Fate/Tiger Colosseum.Otherwise though, i'll see what i got.
>>56643748If memory serves, that was a reference to something. I can't for the life of me remember what that thing was though.Or he happened to make something incredibly similar without knowing it, thats possible too.
>>56644053From here, I recognized it soon as I saw it
>>56643774I meant unconventional. Fate is ok too though.I really like that motorcyclist, motorcycle, and town.
>>56644117oh yeah, that is what it was. I couldn't remember to save my life.>>56644492Angry manjew has a neat design. It sorta sucks he's basically knock-off shirou though. That series has way too big an issue with that.
>>56624129>>56630933Question.Kansainon started off Futaba Onigata's description in the beginning with "Lewd? You haven't SEEN lewd!"Is this something that comes up later, a trait about the character that has been lost among the details and actoions not recounted in the story time, or more just a joke about Futaba's dark stalker heritage and ownership of a love hotel that doesn't actually reflect the characters speech, mannerisms, and behavior?
>>56644843It's more a physical description about how she has gigantic knockers and clothes measured in string length rather than yardage.There were titty jokes bouncing around early-on with relative consistency (for example, Onigata suggests Ito go be a good meat shield and he snaps back she has two large ones already) but some of those are being lost in the telling because GM and players aren't keen on direct game logs being posted.Also around this point in the game Onigata's player started to fall off into the background then had to bail from the game entirely so some things involving her had to be dropped.
>>56645005I see. Thank you for the explanation.Sorry to hear you guys lost a player.
>>56645158Also Onigata is a kind of in-joke to begin with; the player was in a previous campaign playing pic related and was VERY lewd (nearly raped Billy the Kid) and was asked if they could tone it down before things went full magical realm. So ONIgata FUTAba is a big-tittied succubi who runs a love hotel, but is actually cold and distant.
>>56645005That sucks, are you guys getting another player?
>>56645713We have another player already actually, although they haven't been in the game long as we're looking at end game soonish. I dunno how much time he'll have to grow into the campaign before it finishes up, but he seems to be enjoying it anyway
>>56645713>tfw seeing pics from the Thead (2 of which you posted) used in tokens for a groups game.Feels good man.
>>56645770Good to hear.Glad they seem to be having fun despite encroaching endgame on a campaign they are new to.>>56645383I see. I'm kind of reminded of someone I knew who respected the making and cultivation of food, but treated meals as more of a necessity to be comsumed and gotten over with than something to savor, look forward to, or build a fun experience around.
>>56630953>Writing up the next part now.Very much looking forward to it.
>>56645383A strange combination of confidence excess grace and approachability in this image.
>>56645713>>56645828I'm seeing like, three things I've posted in these threads. It feels so surreal.
>>56630953Alrighty getting back on track here to finish off that partAlso a note and a word of advice: Now if it isn't apparent this party is rather powerful at this stage in the game especially seeing as they are about I want to say 1/4 into the game as it stands today (just a sort of ballpark figure). I am totally ok with this because as of the latest session I threw an equal leveled Godhunter in a 1v1 situation and it was fairly balanced, so I can now throw bigger and badder things at them more comfortably. One of the reasons why they are so powerful is that I was giving a kushimitama every time they beat an encounter and I was letting them bank them, these added up because I was giving them on top of if I remember lavish rewards in gold and mats. So I guess the message i'm going to say here is, don't be scared of a powerful party but if you are concerned just trim the ammount of G you give them. Back to the story.
>>56646691So we return to three of our heroes. Akira, Futaba and Taro. They had taken charge of the two unconscious magical girls and sought to bring them to a safe location for questioning when they would wake up. Now, just in case any of you don't know what a love hotel is (and if you don't, i'm pretty surprised) it's more or less a hotel you check into to have hot sex in comfortable privacy. Two young unconscious girls are being taken into a side alley into a secret enterance to this hotel. [CONCERN]These girls might still be dangerous so the three of them don't seem to take any chances. They head to a secure place where any damage taken here would be minimal, a bdsm dungeon lower down in the hotel. Taro tied the two of them up back to back on a set of chairs, Futaba comments that it might have been better to use a magical barrier on them instead, which is something the dumb fox forgot entirely about. They wake the two of them up, well one of them up using some kind of medicine that bring them out of that coma they were beaten into.
>>56646727Aoi wakes up and immediately realised the situation they are in and tries to go for an ice spell but she just doesn't have the power for it. Renji is snoring and Taro comments surprised because he was using the good stuff. With no sort of out Aoi is forced to explain. In truth Renji was dying and no matter what kind of medication she was recieving she would not get better. Aoi stumbled upon rumours of the Aramitama and their power to grant wishes at the cost of human life, she took up that mantle in order to save her friend. Renji at some point realised what Aoi was doing, but instead of abandoning her friend for her horrible actions, she joined her so that she could share the burden together. The Aramitama has a way of warping ones judgement and the two eventually met with the Dahlia who in a way became their senpai, until she was killed by the party. To sum it up, Aoi and Renji were doing this to rid themselves of the illness that was plaguing Renji and also because the demons they were paired up with more more or less altering their sense of justice, turning them into corruptions of typical magical girls.
>>56646748Aoi has nothing more to say to the two of them, for all she cared they could kill her but she pleaded for them not to hurt Renji. Akira comments about the Kushimitama they have been gathering from the badder aramitama they have been slaying and how they might be able to bring about a small miracle. Kushimitama is a very valuable and powerful thing in the world of Kamigakari, and without a second thought Futaba had ordered Taro to take the only kushimitama she had left. They expend it and Renji wakes up as if she had a long sleep, Aoi is unsure if the Kushimitama fragment actually worked or not but either way Futaba had done a great deed for them and she owed her. Futaba insisted that this was out of kindness.Aoi asks where the two of them are and when she finds out the answer she gets redder than the sun unable to get her words out, Akira jokingly chastises the two of them for freeloading and Aoi stammers out that she is out of the Reverse Godhunting gig and that she'll pay up for freeloading.Futaba says this is not neccessary and leaves with Akira before winking at the two of them saying "It's soundproof you know"closing the door behind her.And that does it for that particular session.
>>56645383>Shuten douji nearly raping billy the kidI would pay type moon money to see that animated carnival phantasm style.
>>56645770Yeah, if i have one complaint with the game, at least as it is now, its that endgame hits extremely fast. Especially with the lack of examples of higher level mononoke.One of these days when i've got the time, i'll see about averaging out some stats for 6+ to use with the homebrew guide, but that might take a while
>>56646727>it's more or less a hotel you check into to have hot sex in comfortable privacyThat sounds awesome. Most hotels in the United States that are conveniently priced for such use aren't comfortable at all.
>>56647650>Yeah, if i have one complaint with the game, at least as it is now, its that endgame hits extremely fast. Especially with the lack of examples of higher level mononoke.>One of these days when i've got the time, i'll see about averaging out some stats for 6+ to use with the homebrew guide, but that might take a whileDo you need help playtesting mononoke designs against PC builds or against each other to help get that work done?
>>56648390Not really no. At least not yet. Its a matter of pooling things by level, comparing stat averages, and just generally crunching numbers.
I'm surprised their aren't more magical girl costumes based on the more stylized officers uniformed that only went out of favor in the middle 20th century. Here's a very subdued example with a cape.
>>56648422Actually, now that i think on it, since the higher level stuff has fewer and fewer examples per level, it may be prudent to do actual playtesting. I'll get back to you on that.
>All of these super cool sounding campaigns going on and stories about them>Want to run something with the system myself but I'm not good at anything related to plotWhat do you do for inspiration?
>>56648422>comparing stat averages, and just generally crunching numbersAh. I'm generally pretty useless for that kind of tasking.
>>56648536When in doubt, watch an anime or something. Contrary to popular belief, players won't actually care if you rip things off, usually, so long as you are tactful about it.Of course there's the odd man out that will throw a shitfit, but if he's the only one with an issue then he's being that guy.
>>56648568Its really not that hard, actually. Its basic math. Its just getting all the numbers grouped up properly from across 2 books.It'd be a lot harder if some of the other books were actually fully translated.
>>56648536Talking to your players can get you set up with a lot of setting, tone, plot, and example inspiration works to pull from.The two longest running games I've ever been in (a vampire game that ran for 1.5 years and a Rogue Trader game that ran for 2.5 years before I left the group but is still going) Both started with the players and GM talking about that stuff for 2-3 weeks before session 1. We also finished character starting and initial concepts and backgrounds at the same time.
>>56648501>Actually, now that i think on it, since the higher level stuff has fewer and fewer examples per level, it may be prudent to do actual playtesting. I'll get back to you on that.Cheers. While we are at it maybe we can come up with more expamples for people to use for future reference.
>>56648657Sometimes the exact opposite works as well. I'm in a dnd 3.5 group thats been going for a year and a half as well, and our DM Pulled most of us into it on a whim.I was so utterly uninvolved with the plot and inexperienced with tabletop that i made a complete rando monk with no story to speak of besides "Punch things" and i'm basically the party leader now. And i'm not saying i usurped leadership, i'm saying these guys were inept enough that the 10 CHA monk ended up the party face over the rogue and bard.
>>56648734I've actually got a bunch of homebrew mononoke i've screencapped. Some requests, others not so much. A lot of them are from god eater, as the game. The only request i regret not finishing was the killer 7 one, but thats trying to balance 7 different characters as one mononoke. Thats some tough shit.Here's a ghost in the shell tachikoma, as an example.
>>56648607>Its really not that hard, actually. Its basic math. Its just getting all the numbers grouped up properly from across 2 books.>It'd be a lot harder if some of the other books were actually fully translated.So if someone wanted to help, they could just take a data entry you made and then duplicate that for all similar things in the book (racial traits for instance) and that would help you and it's something even an arithmetic challenged dyslexic can do?
What works better? Having the party split up at first but coming together later on, like in the book... Or having them all together from the start and letting them branch off if needed?
>>56648835I'm not sure i understand.>>56648848Either or. Play it by ear depending on the situation at hand.
>>56648777Nice trips.are you the same anon as >>56648501or no?Share what you got.
>>56648953Yeah, i'm the same dude. And sure, i can link some stuff. I'll start with a more unique one since we've seen a couple touhou fags come to thread.This ones a three-parter so gimme a sec to get all 3 out.
>>56639449>>56637677>>56642107>>56648848Games where the party started split up that went well tended to be ones where the PCs we're all starting heading for the same place and either had reason to stick around there for a day or more or would all be arriving on the same day.
>>56648984Here's Shanghai/Hourai. These two aren't terribly different from eachother in effect, so i left their stats as one entry and simply gave them different abilities.Honestly, i went full ham on the homebrew spirit with this one. Its not something i would use as an average example, but it is a fun one. If someone wants to playtest this, i'd love to see how it works.
>>56649024So overall, i made these 3-4 mononoke with a very specific theme, and it shows in how they are set up.This is an example of throwing conventions out the window and going with thematic mechanics over regular ones. Because lets be honest, if you wanna homebrew something, its because it wasn't offered baseline.
>>56649072Moving right along, of berserk fame, Zodd.
>>56649131The ever popular Kappa. I shoulda found a pic for this, but i was half dead most of the time i was doing this, so my bad.Either way, this one is simple, but was an attempt at working in unusual terrain like water.
>>56648777How would you stat up a swarm of dangerous things?Like supernaturally enhanced Driver Ants? (Mundane driver ants are fucking terrifying by the way)Or to change gears to a different kind of swarm formations of army men brought to life with working tiny weapons and equipment?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=htHA7AwzcNE (Skip to 5:22 for relevant bits to start)
>>56649069Anybody from 9th would fit in, really.Even the temporary exchange members.
>>56649394Technically speaking, i think thats covered by the "Name XNumber" Thing you see in some mononoke names. That basically means its X amount of mononoke acting as a cohesive whole. For example, the basest mononoke in the book is the "Shard prisoner x5". For all intents and purposes though, its still one mononoke. If this isn't quite what you meant, you'll need to elaborate a bit.
>>56649471I think Wendy Cooldown, if you played her as properly crazy would be someone you would want to clear with your GM and fellow players first. Cause damn.
>>56646778We return several days later at the Demon Hunters Society. The threat of the two magical girls had been taken care of and Goezome needed a report for her records and because she is a stickler for administration and to get on with one of the proverbial 99 problems she has to deal with on a daily basis and she doesn't have any time for guff, especially from Furiten who she was meeting with before the crew arrived.Shizune asks Akira what information they got out the girls. He replies with "We tied the two girls down in a love hotel and engaged in a bit of wish fulfilment, they racked up a big bill too". Goezome drops her pen. Things were looking like they were getting out of hand, Akira was not wrong about what he said though. Shizune tries to control the situation by assuring Goezome that they probably didn't do anything illegal, to which Goezome points out that what they are saying sounds very illegal. Futaba adds in "Is it wrong if they were willing?" and gets a loud NOT HELPING from Shizune.Furiten comments that perhaps the Dahlia might have been dealt with much faster if someone could get into her pants to which Goezome chastises him, though he does say that it might have been better to as he so put it "grind them into the dirt underneath your heel" though Futaba insists that it's an investment, better to get the bad guys on your side than eliminate them.
>>56649674Goezome is pretty done here, but there are still some fish to fry. The church is still a problem and have to be taken care of. She has more details that the actual force sent to deal in Osaka is a smaller off-shoot of the main branch of the church. The general view of The Chuch to outsiders is 'Heretics! Ree!'. The group gathers some clues and tries to find where these christians are hiding out. They decide to sent Akira and Shizune, mainly because if they sent Ito he would probably mouth off, Jagasaki is an actual demon and Futaba is something akin to a succubus.The search brings the two to an alley where they have narrowed down where the Church would be, definitely does not look like a church. They wonder to themselves if they had the right place, and then it hits them. A smell, a pleasent smell. The smell of cooking and spices, indian spices. It's the kind of smell that would make you hungry even if you are full. This smell is coming from a now open door. Two people come out, a well dressed man in a black suit with a cross hanging from his neck and a beautiful looking nun behind him.
>>56649693I remember a while back after I put Kiritsugu in my game by pure accident I assured my players that I would not put Kotomine in this game as well. Well. I forgot that promise. Meet Christophe Lombardo and Hakuno Mary. Just to add to that anime feel I tried to make his name thematically rediculous as to fit with what a mangaka thought sounded cool.The man speaks back into the room he came out of and thanked them for the meal and for God to be with them, taking a small hankerchief to wipe the small specs of red from his mouth and hands when he turns around to see Shizune and Akira just standing there. They improvise.Shizune speaks in a softer worried voice asking for help as she and her friend are lost, which techically isn't a lie. The man happily obliges to help two lost children, asking where they are looking to go. He asks them what they are looking for, and Akira asks about the local Church. Christophe chuckles a little with a 'ah yes yes of course of course' and then Mary softly asks him to stop playing games with them. The two of them feel an [OMINOUS PRECENSE] behind them. [ELIZA]
>>56649715This is some kind of phantom assassin and it can just smell that they aren't baptised. She has a knife to their necks and at the drop of a hat could slit them. Akira says he has a blessing but Shizune warns him to not antagonise them and tries to assure the group that they just want to talk, to which Christophe jabs back that he just wanted to enjoy a meal without spilling red on his suit but he gives them a moment to speak, he abhors deception when it is used against him but today but he would not kill them, right now. 'How merciful of you' Mary says to him.An INT check is made and Shizune can sort of pin down what this Eliza character is. She isn't something like a bound primal but she seems to be taking orders from Lombardo, she seems something more akin to a ghost or Heroic Spirit. Akira pulls out his ace in the hole for this situation. He speaks to the priest in an ancient gutteral tongue.「And I desire to approach toward all the lords of the ritual order with a Yasht, toward all the good Yazads, heavenly and earthly, who are set for worship and for praise because of Asha Vahishta.」Christophe pauses for a moment. Then breaks out into hysterical laughter, the kind of laughter where it kind of hurts and should be accompanied by a clap with the words GOOD SHIT, THAT IS SOME GOOD SHIT RIGHT THERE. He comments that this is unexpected still chuckling hard wiping a small tear from his eye. Mary, Shizune and Eliza are all confused by this. The priest calms him self slightly, still filled with that laughter inside him and asks 'what business does one of YOU have to do with us'
>>56649727Ok good. They're in talks now and aren't going to kill them right now. Akira points out that times are dangerous in Osaka, and Aramitama attacks are more frequent, an alliance between the DHS and the Church will help to maintain the peace. Christophe gets another good chuckle at finding out the DHS has set up in Osaka now, while an alliance is out of the question Christophe comments that perhaps their boss doesn't need to know about them looking the other way, he says this close to the pair leaning forward, his neck is present to both of them, they could kill him right here and right now, Shizune slightly pushes him away because distance man.Christophe agrees to at the very least a ceassfire, but promises to kill them and everyone else should they get in the Churches way. What they actually want is unknown, they probably have [COMPLEX MOTIVES] or something. Shizune asks him what he will hypothetically say to his superiors, he says this: "My only true superior is God, and God has chosen to let this society of Heathens continue drawing breath on this wonderful world he has given us.". Akira says under his breath "Great, he's a fundamentalist". The priest dispells his phantom assassin and makes his way out into the street before commenting that they should really try the food in there, it's divine.Shizune gets to asking what the hell Akira was saying before. It's Avestan, the sacred language of Zoroastrainism from Eastern Iran and one of his mother tongues. What he said to Christophe was some kind of sacred greeting for holy men. There was clearly more to Akira than a strange crossdresser now. Though if there was one thing that was certain right now, both of them were getting very hungry, that smell was dangerous. Akira offers to pay and Shizune is all ears and the two head inside.
>>56649743It's curry of all types here, this really good food sitting in this alley like a diamond in the rough. The two get to talking about the places they've visited when Shizune comments that she hasn't had a good curry since her last trip to Hong Kong. Akira mentioned he lived in Syria for a little while before everything blew up, went to Okinawa when his sister Risa got a job and to get to meet people and lived for a little while in Taiwan with his sister Taira to 'help him understand more', lastly he lived in London with his mother but he was a baby at the time.Shizune replies that she has been outside of Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Indonesia, the Phillipines and Austraillia, and the only place she wouldn't go back to is the Phillipines, frowning an reminiscing. One little thing I forgot to mention was back when Akira and Shizune had their coffee talk at the DHS, before they met, Shizune was sipping her coffee commenting 'it's the only good thing to come out of the Pillippines' quite smugly.Looking back on it, Shizune thought that the world was in her grasp and that she could always have anything she wanted if she behaved and didn't dissapoint people. She went to meet the church today assuming that they would listen to her if she spoke softly to them. Akira tries to cheer her up saying that things happen and that she could learn from this.She starts to ask Akira something. What does he plan to do after the Aramitama are dealt with? The fight might not be over in their lifetimes, Akira comments joking imagining the two of them old and grey still fighting monsters. Akira gets a little bitter when Shizune starts saying that they should still try and finish the fight if they can to try and want something better. Shizune still doesn't know what Akira is but he is wary if people would accept him for who he is as oppsoed to a freak or a cute pet, he thinks things aren't going to get better for him.
>>56649769Shizune is trying pretty hard to pep him up, prodding him about what he dreams of. A place where he can be himself, and herself. He speaks in both his male voice and his female voice. He doesn't want to split up into multiple parts and never come together and hope that other people don't notice, he doesn't know how to do this.Shizune thinks about this. A place where Akira can be himself? She comments that perhaps both their dreams can work together. Shizune has a big house waiting for her in Tokyo if only she could get the cash together, it's not an impossible goal. It would be a big physical place where you can just be yourself where they don't have to deal with things like school or Reverse Godhunters. Nothing seems to be set in stone but she is getting energised.This is where she messed up. Now I don't like posting whole logs here, but I really think this can not be put into my own words.
>>56649779Akira just stared at her for a second."...Shizune, did you just ask me to move in with you?" There was a note of disbelief in his voice.A moment passesThe oppressive sound of the wind can be heard. Just a second ago, Shizune was there. The unskilled eye could come to the conclusion that she is, in fact, still there, still leaning slightly towards the center of the table, still with both hands joined after reacting to a sudden idea. But she isn't. Only her body continues to exist there, frozen, unmoving, unresponsive. Her mind, nay, her soul had just been consumed, completely overwhelmend by sheer awkwardness, and all that remains is an organic statue in the likeness of Mitsuki Shizune, a grim reminder of the fact that she can, too, say impulsive and poorly thought-out things. By some sort of thaumaturgy beyond mortal ken, she comes back to life and sits down properly, and starts eating her curry after saying "The curry is going to go cold" but for some reason, seems like she her neck is irreparably positioned in such a way that she cannot see anything but the table and the contents in it, much less be able to look at her companion.
>>56649812>TFW you fuck up so bad that all you can do to cope is stare into your food
>>56649812For a second, Akira said nothing, but then, he broke into uncontrollable laughter."Hahahahahaha, hahahahahaha! Shi-shi-shizu-nee, I'm so sohohohorry, I just can't, I can't..." he couldn't finish the sentence, consumed by the sheer hilarity of the situation. "I-I didn't know you were interested in me that way," he said, eventually, his body still shaking with barely-contained laughter, his eyes glinting with mischief. "If you wanted to do things that way, why didn't you just say so?"There's many things that Shizune could say right now. "No, that's not it""This is a misunderstanding" "That came out wrong"And so on. But, as it turns out, she had blocked her sight, hearing, tact, and even her supernatural sense. Right now, she was functioning strictly on taste and smell, because the curry ended up being that damn good. Enduring the mockery of her underclassman, she limits herself at enjoying her meal, until she finishes"Thanks for the food. Thanks for inviting me here, Akira-kun. See you tomorrow" she says, mechanically, after finishing, and leaves. Her face is seen now, and it's the face of someone who has given up. It has lost it's color and even it's tri-dimensional depth, looking more like a middle-schooler's doodle. Hopefully, she'll be more able to communicate later.
>>56649743Fundamentalists are rarely fun.
>>56649838I don't think i'll be posting many more logs but today I make an exception. I would also like to thank everyone who has been keeping up and baring with me. My sleeping habits are strange and I have a really hard time buttoning down and getting stuff done. I'll look to get the next part of storytime going in the next thread because it looks like we are hitting the bump limit.
>>56649862Bump limit is 310 friendo, you got 90 posts to go.
>>56649877Really? Well, looks like I have few exuses then. Though I do really have to have a good head on my shoulders to write this stuff up. I'll at the very least draft the next part up.
Kansainon do you browse /wg/ for potential inspiration images too?
>>56649891Actually I don't, though actually that might be a good place to look. I mainly use Gelbooru and Pixiv and man, I did not realise that you could tag "rating:safe". I was diving deep into the yaoi mines looking for art for the characters.But yeah, Gelbooru. You tag on "Rating:safe" and then any of these tags like "1girl" or "1boy" "white_background" really helps me out when im piecing my VN scenes together
>>56649919>yaoi minesJesus christ, you poor son of a bitch. Your players better appreciate that shit.
>>56649838I guess I'll have to wait till next update to find out if Shizune is interested in Akira in that way or if she was just offering her friend to come share her big house because buddies and it would give Akira some room to be themself and explore themself.
>>56649973Mostly we rib him for accidentally stealing portraits from Monster Girl Encyclopedia
>>56649994I almost did that once for a monster blacksmith i was using. I happened to find a kitsune one that wasn't from porn though.Honestly, there ain't no shame in using the art. All else aside, the art is good.
>>56650004Nah it's good-natured joking. Since GM accidentally used Kiritsugu without realizing who it was we've made a game of guessing where he's borrowed his art assets from. Bonus points if he didn't know the source himself
>>56649973I think the worst was looking for pictures for Ito and finding a good orange haired delinquent, had shark teeth and everything, and I scroll down and theres a full blown yaoi doujinshi going on. Even if the art was good, I just couldn't use it any more.
>>56650054So wait, he's been using fate art this entire time, and he either wasn't aware of that or wasn't aware of who kiritsugu was?>>56650081Fucking hell man
>>56649919Got anymore advice for players and GMs who don't know jack about Booru sites and Pixiv?I've mostly used 4chan (/tg/, /w/, 3rd party archive sites, and recently a bit of /w/) google image and reverse image search to look for stuff.Also just asking people for leads on certain kinds of things I'm looking for at the time.I'm a complete noob at booru type sites and don't have a Pixiv account.So thank you for the tips any more advice you can give.
>>56650087No it's worse. I was using fate art of Kiritsugu for the first boss. Completely forgetting who he was when using the picture, despite the fact I had come out a FATE STAY NIGHT game and binge marathoned Zero to get me up to speed on Fate.
>>56650152How much weed, booze, or sleep debt was involved?
>>56650152So a tragic failing of the human mental process, in spectacular fashion.
>>56650169None, which is what makes it infinitely worse.>>56650178totally
>>56650152We players lost our collective shit when we saw fucking Kiritsugu show up in the first session>KILLER GM>GG TIME TO REROLL
>>56650217Was that before or after you realized he did it unintentionally?
>>56650251Before, then even more after when it was clear he fucked up. Then combat happened and Kerry got bitch-slapped out of relevanceWe're pretty much never going to let him forget it
>>56650119Okay so you might want to use https://safebooru.org/ to start off with. Now lets say you wanted some character art. Lets make this simple. White haired Kitsune witchYou only want one person in the image so we use the tag 1girl, then we want a kitsune so you can put in the word Kitsune, then you want white hair so you put in the tag White_hair and finally you want a witch so you put in witch.You enter all these terms in the search bar and that should narrow your search down for that art.
>>56650292You'll probably want to search for something witch related (hat, broom) instead of just 'witch', but other than that, this is solid advice.Pixiv is really easy, by the way, now that they've mostly swapped the interface to English. You can even enter simple english terms (fox, dragon, mecha) and have it automatically search for the english word OR the japanese translation. If the auto-translate doesn't work, however, using google translate/a dictionary to grab the word for whatever you're looking for makes things go a lot more smoothly.
>>56650292Do you space the search terms out With,; _ Or something else?Does it use Boolean operators or it's own things.Is what you are talking about how you accomplish using more than one tag at once for a search, or is this something similar but distinctly different?
>>56650338Well in the case of gelbooru, using the example I put out there you would type it like this "1girl white_hair hat broom kitsune" just spaces
>>56650338Not kansainon, but I can answer that. You space 'em out with spaces, which is why you need _ for multi-word search terms like white_hair. (unless you're on Zerochan, which handles spaces in tags just fine).
>>56650338For each term, just put a space in the initial seach. _ makes it clear that its two parts of one tag.
>>56650333>>56650373Also: It's a good idea, I've found, unless your search is something super obscure, to add 'original' (オリジナル on pixiv) to your search so you don't, say, end up buried in Megumins and Marisas if you're looking for a witch-hatted character pic.
>>56650375 >>56650373 >>56650371Thank you very much.
>>56649919>>56650408>>56650375>>56650373If I want to exclude things to I just ass it to the search with a - on. The front?Like if I want to search for navy crew or navy would making it"Navy -kantai" of "navy crew -kantai" be the right way to narrow the search or is their a more reliable way?
>>56650552Yeah, something like that would work."Navy -Kantai_Collection" brings up a bunch of results on safebooru.
>>56650562It seems like stacking multiple related or similar exclusion terms improves the filtering
>>56650603well yeah, the more specific you get the better your results, usually. Of course there's a point where being too specific will lead you with nothing as well, so you need to be careful of that.