/ysg/, or Yog Sothothery General, or Yog Sothoth General, or Delta Green General as it usually ends up, is a place to discuss Call of Cthulhu, Trail of Cthulhu, Delta Green, and related games>The classics that started it allhttp://www.eldritchdark.comhttp://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/>Call of Cthulhu Trovehttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/h9qjka0i4e75t/Call_Of_Cthulhu>Atchung! Cthulhuhttps://mega.nz/#F!ywcHkIAA!ycphEhCOkbnjOvAQ4t7TBg>Pulp Cthulhuhttps://mega.nz/#!L9EFWSIT!o6clZxfdrVSOLkmcQz3wQ2Af9-hKsUxKc7214VynuY4>Delta Greenhttps://pastebin.com/rtpJfc2LHere is a nice story to start the thread
>>55378124And here's the whole story in scenario formI ran it for my DG open table over the weekend. The Agents spent their week of prep time canvassing the area for hints about Baba Yaga and how to fight her. They figured out her weakness to iron and her reliance on her sense of smell after talking with a village priest and a forest shaman. They even arranged a meeting with her through Koku, her intermediary. They seriously considered cutting a deal to make her leave the village alone, but were unwilling to pay her "relocation fee" of 37 kids. With their deadline drawing near, they recruited a couple willing villagers and took a drive to Smolensk to pick up some hardware.Smeared with feces and herbs so she couldn't smell them coming, the team crept up on her chicken leg house. One Agent kneecapped it with an anti-tank rifle, while the other rushed forward to toss a bundle of grenades into the window, destroying her skull lanterns (which the anthropologist determined were the source of her power during their visit). She tried to fly away, but was quickly shot down, reduced to a couple HP and devoid of the power she needed for her spells.The Agents debated what to do with her. One wanted to bring her back to SV-8 in chains, while the other wanted to send her to the Appalachians, so she would prey on imperialist Yankee children instead of Soviet kids. The priest they brought with them from the village had other ideas. He'd lost a daughter to the Queen of Witches, and wanted revenge. When persuasion failed to stay his hand, the ensuing gunfight wiped out the whole team except for one Agent. Traumatized and loaded down with fresh disorders from the fight, the sole survivor retrieved Baba Yaga's silver broom from the crippled house and "swept" the scene clean, disposing of all the bodies and evidence.The Baba Yaga did 6 total damage to the Agents. They did the rest on their own.
>>55378409Here's another story
>>55378409>so she would prey on imperialist Yankee children instead of Soviet kids10/10 hero of the revolution
Bumping with a one page scenario. Hopefully the thread will still be here tomorrow.
>>55380997It kept telling me this one was too large to upload, even though it's a one page PDF with no pictures(3/3)
>>55378048B.P.R.D. Field Guide Troll Market For Hellboy 2http://www98.zippyshare.com/v/shZsxHHd/file.html
>>55378562I really enjoyed this, please post more!
Do Cthulhu - and other Elder things - emit some kind of supernatural aura that drive human mad? Or people go mad because the concept of such thing was unimaginable at like hundred years ago?
>>55383777>Or people go mad because the concept of such thing was unimaginableThis one.
>>55383777>>55383902Cthulhu, at least, does emanate some sort of psychic influence that affects, at least, those sensitive to it.I recommend you read "the Call of Cthulhu", it's basically required reading and it is short and free.
Looking for the new Dark Matter d20, haven't had luck in DA Archive.http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/161906/d20-Dark-Matter-d20M - this is the one I'm looking for. Has anyone got a good pdf of this?
>>55383777The "psychic aura that makes you go crazy" thing is bullshit pushed by people who haven't actually read any Lovecraft. Cthulhu can project his dreams into the minds of lesser beings but it's not like there is a "You will go bonkers past this point" field around every mythos monster.Most cases of Lovecraft characters going insane happens after they saw the spooky shit, it's PTSD.
Asked in Da Archive but I figured I should try here too. Anyone have a PDF of the Delta Green scenario Observer Effect? I would greatly appreciate it.Also, what's your favorite official Delta Green scenario? I personally love Night Floors.
>>55378052I always found it very odd that existence of Hellboy doesn't immediately cause a global freakout.
>>55378409This is amazing, thanks!
>>55389254Favorite was the one posted to Detwiller's patreon, "Control Copy." Good old murder mystery that was the first DG op that my players really figured out on their own. As much as I like the surreal nature of Night Floors I always felt like it was "spooky shit happens, blow up the building" without much payoff.
>>55389254>>55394389Night Floors is great for atmosphere but has little in the way of gameplay. Hoard is a better execution of the same concept, since it relies on the players actually figuring out and solving the mystery, rather than waiting for the GM to let them outhttp://fairfieldproject.wikidot.com/hoard
>>55393919More? Really digging this!
>>55394462Detwiller said at Gencon that Night Floors is getting a rewrite for Impossible Landscapes. Also that it's different enough that even if your players already played it, it won't make a difference. Hoping it involves more substance.
>>55394389>>55394462Yeah, those are basically my problems with Night Floors too. I had it lead into a full Carcosa/Hastur based campaign, but I can see how on its own there isn't really any payoff.>>55394503I'm definitely excited for this. Anything Hastur-related really ticks all my boxes.
>>55394484This is the last one I have saved. You'll have to go find the rest on your own.
>>55378409>>55380977>>55380997>>55381037Great stuff Anon(s).
Does anyone avoid applying any of Lovecraft's gods to their games at all?The last game I played, the supernatural power was represented by rain, but little else. Though what the rain did to 'expecting' mothers in the cult that prayed to it was very seriously cosmic.My players seem to enjoy human antagonists more than beasties in general.
>>55397810I like including them, but they're always more of a background thing that rarely gets referred to by name. It's way more interesting to take certain aspects of Lovecraft's gods and twist them to existing (or dead, but still real) religions. I'll take Shub Niggurath as a Celtic fertility goddess or a Southern Baptist snake church that ended up worshipping Yig at some point a few decades ago but still seems like a regular ol' weird branch of Christianity unless you really dig into it over Overtly Evil Cthulhu Cult #1059 any day.
Thoughts on David Harbour as Hellboy?
>>55399883Honestly just grateful they're going to make a new Hellboy movie at all.
Would you an eldritch horror?
>>55399883Still bummed that it's not gonna be Ron Pearlman anymore and John Hurt is dead, I don't know how they're gonna top some of the casting from the Del Toro movies.Mostly what >>55400678 said though. Doesn't hurt that the Hellboy makeup looks almost exactly the same as it did on Pearlman.
>>55394389>Control CopyAnyone have a PDF of this? I can't find it anywhere
>>55399883The actor is fine, it's everything else around the film that I don't like
>>55408000What do you mean?
>>55409278The villain is the Blood Queen which is yet another entry into "apocalyptic magic women" which I'm sick of from Mummy, Suicide Squad, and Thor Ragnarok. Considering that Hellboy has fought very interesting mundane stuff or of cthulhu level entities, having a magic woman to punch seems really fucking lame.Blood Queen is also one of the newest enemies Hellboy has fought in the comics and also have nothing to do with his origins beyond tangential ties.Rated R also scares me. Hellboy has never been foul and while bloody, never particularly gory enough to warrant such. At most I'm hoping to see one topless scene and nothing beyond that.
>>55410072It's kind of a weird plot to jump right into with a movie, since it's the culmination of so many other storylines - Hellboy's backstory, rescuing the girl from the fairies, trading his eye to the Baba Yaga for safe passage, etc
>>55410072Someone I know has been adapting the Fallen London/Sunless Sea setting for a Call of Cthulhu game, shit's gonna be cool as fuck
If i want to get into hellboy, where do i get started if i'm the kind of dude who wants stuff in paper?What collection (since i find atleast 2 different series of collections) is the one to go for etc?
>>55410142(oops didn't mean to quote)
>>55410103My big fear is that studio is seeing purely the numbers that BvS made and think BIG AND EPIC WILL ALWAYS SELL, not thinking about the long term gains that Marvel has built for a decade to reach their current money printing status.
>>55410210Start with Seed of Darkness, the first book, and read them in the order they were published in. There are a few rough edges but Hellboy has always been under control of the same guy and the quality has been consistently good right from the start. I don't know much about compilation books since with a few exceptions I get most of my comics off /co/. I've also fallen off reading ever since The end of the Hellboy in Hell arc, around the time Liz got BTFO by the Black Flame in Hell on Earth.
>>55393737>>55397560I have another SV8 adventure hereTechnically I shouldn't be posting it since it uses content from an unreleased playtest scenario>>55410346The Storm and Fury arc would be great as part of a Mignola Cinematic Universe type deal, but that would require several movies buildup
>>55410210Go to wikipedia and just go in order of publishing.
>>55410210If you're willing to wait, in 2018 Dark Horse is going to re-release the stories in chronological order in omnibuses. Omnibi. You get the idea.
>>55410450Kinda don't feel like going after them issue-by issue. >>55410481Patience is not by strongpoint with these kind of things. And what the heck is an omnibus in this context?
>>55410496Just go at your own pace until you lose interest. Hellboy doesn't really do the bullshit cliffhanger endings.
>>55410496om·ni·busˈämnəˌbəsnoun1.a volume containing several novels or other items previously published separately."an omnibus of her first trilogy"
>>55410520Oh no, i meant i want to buy them issue-by-issue, i.e looking for what collection is best, there's atleast 2 variants (of what i understand is the "original" stories i.e before Hellboy In Hell) and i'm spooked one is superior and i'll get the worse one.
>>55410210Note, Hellboy leaves the BPRD after Conqueror Worm and goes off to do his own 'wandering the Earth' thing mostly unconnected to the overarching plot. Conqueror Worm is also the starting point for the BPRD series, where most of the big story happens. Then way late in the Hell on Earth saga, Abe Sapien leaves and gets his own spinoff series where he learns about his role in the apocalypse. And published during BPRD's run was the Lobster Johnson series, mostly unconnected but features some cool prequel stuff. The first Lobster Johnson story features an item that becomes the main focus of the Sledgehammer 44 stories, which becomes important to the conclusion of the Hell on Earth saga in BPRD.Yeah, shit gets confusing after a while.
>>55378048Im writing a campaign centering around Nyarlathotep. What would be some good materials for inspiration? I just finished reading his titular story and Dream-Quest.Also would it be too edgy if I implied that Jesus was Nyarlathotep. One of my major npcs is a former priest that mixed Christianity with worship of Nyarlathotep and Azathoth as the Father and the Son.
>>55413582Seems fine to me he's a mad priest after all.
Shit was just about to go to Carcosa in my Delta Green campaign but my friends work schedule changed so we cant play for a while. Its always such a fucking drag when this happens.
Did the Case Officer's handbooks still not come out?
>>55417113There's a plaintext draft version, but I can't wait for the fully illustrated and nicely formatted one. I actually really like Dennis Detwiller's illustrations
>>55417266IS the draft version free? I'll have to look at it. Id like to have a more unified and coherent ruleset than the cobbled together shit DG was for a while.
>>55417783>IS the draft version free?Nope>Id like to have a more unified and coherent ruleset than the cobbled together shit DG was for a while.Prepare to be disappointed>>55413582It wouldn't be edgy but it would be lame as hell. "[X] deity/historical figure was secretly a mythos all along!!!" is extremely lazy writing.
>>55417783>IS the draft version free?Kickstarter backers only. I think in the most recent email the ETA for the finished book was some time in October.
>>55413582>Nyarlathotephttp://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/9596971/#9598102>Considering that he has the potential to be anything, sane, insane, a charming guy in a suit or a giant gibbering horror etc. Maybe after millions of years he's gotten bored of just driving people insane and only bringing devastation. So, out of curiosity instead of anything resembling morals, the Crawling Chaos decides that he wants to try to be a good person. For the novelty of it. The PCs must try to convince him that this is a good idea.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/9596971/#9598384>Ideas...>He's hiding as a friendly neighborhood beat cop, always handy with advice; from the local hookers to the ex-war criminal, he's got something for everybody...>He lives in an abandoned hospital, running scams on other investigators than the PCs, getting cash to get a pediatric burn ward re-opened.>He just donated bone marrow through a human host. And a kidney. Sperm.>He's collected the names and documentation on every "Unknown Soldier" in the world, poised to act on the upcoming peace accord between Terroristan and Blowyouupistan.>Just a few bad ideas.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/9596971/#9598854>Everybody who takes his advice ends up dead through completely unrelated circumstances, sometimes years after the fact.>Which is actually an excuse to show pictures of burned children on the news, as well as an attempt to make him seem Friendlier to the PCs.>Which are all tainted horrifically in ways that won't be clear until years after the fact. And the hosts? Didn't want to donate any of it.>Specifically to keep them hidden as part of an experiment to see whether or not the uncertainty can drive any one person over the edge and produce the circumstances for a bona fide Knight Templar who wipes out a country in his attempts to secure peace.>...too easy.
What are some good mythos monsters related to cold, remote areas in North America? I'm making a Delta Green scenario based on the Dyatlov Pass Incident (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident), but to fit within the campaign I'm shifting it to the late 90s in Alaska rather than Russia.
The Baba Yaga was always my favorite Hellboy character. Never figured out why.
>>55420493Ithaqua is a GOO associated with cold areas. You could make Mi-go work or even go in an At the Mountains of Madness direction if it's in a mountainous area. If all else fails, search through folklore for the region and find a way to tie it in with the Mythos, or just let it be, not every DG scenario has to have a Mythos connection. Wendigo and skinwalkers are always a safe bet with cold related incidents.
https://www.apnews.com/697536f065e6470eaa5ccfc35061e7ceOk /dgg/, what's going down in Cuba?
>>55423218>https://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/shapeshifter-captured-in-ghanaSmall time.Where is the best place to mine news headlines for your Mythos games?
>>55423794Madness spreading: Florida
Is there any sort of SRD collection for CoC spells?
>>55426722>https://www.chaosium.com/the-grand-grimoire-of-cthulhu-mythos-magic-pdf/This came out recently. I think it's the closest thing to a SRD that exists.
>>55426743Well hey, thanks. Just what I needed.
I'm trying to convert the Traveller chargen minigame to CoC. This is what I have so far. What do you guys think?
>>55426993I don't understand why you wouldn't just always pick the riskiest but most profitable option until you got what you wanted. If there's no cost to your hypothetical character dying then there's no reason not to start scum, other than time and the player's desire to roleplay
>>55428396>If there's no cost to your hypothetical character dying then there's no reason not to start scum, other than time>and the player's desire to roleplay...
>>55407153I gotchu https://mega.nz/#!edtF3aLJ!6Nxlud5Xa2IUz-gW2_eun19EUbfmcHVu89fZOuAJapw
>>55417783>>55418480It's also available if you contribute to Detwiller's Patreon.
>>55378562This Trevor dude was Hellboy's dad, right?
>>55430378Yes, his adoptive dad.
>>55430378Asteroth is Hellboy's biological father, but Bruttenholm is his real dad. He took the antichrist and turned him into the savior of humanity by raising him Christian.
Another one page scenario for DGI know the orc baby dilemma is pretty played, but I've had this idea in my head for a while now
>>55430151You sir are a scholar, gentleman, and everything holy.
>>55410424>>55412272>>55431673Keep them coming, I want to run every single one of these.
Man I have the best ever beginning scenario for a CoC adventure, but I don't know how to ever create a conclusion for it, or even what Mythos thingie to link it to
>>55434820>>55434780>>55434754>>55434741>>55434708>>55434695Where are you getting these from? Have you been writing them?>>55435880What's the idea?
>>55436109This is going to require some explanation, as the initial plot hook that popped into my head requires a bit of setup:The Carpathian Basin used to be a sea for about 9 million years, its last traces having disappeared about six hundred thousand years ago. This means that most of the Carpathian basin consists of limestone if you dig down, and due to its abundance of natural waters, as well as the volcanic activity producing hot springs out the wazoo (Hungary's number of hot springs comes second in Europe right after Iceland), the Carpathian basin has a ludicrous amount of caves. It's like swiss cheese, really.cont.
>>55436109Yes. They have different styles and formatting because I wrote them over the course of about a year>>55434820Playtested and recommended>>55434780Playtested and cautiously recommended - the players liked it and I've heard from other people who ran it and liked it, but looking back it doesn't really "click" for me>>55434754Ditto>>55434741Never playtested>>55434708Playtested and recommended>>55434695Playtested and recommended - still one of my favorites>>55431673Never playtested>>55412272Playtested and recommended>>55410424Playtested and recommended>>55381037Never playtested>>55380997Never playtested>>55380977Never playtested
>>55437016The idea is that somewhere in sleepy rural Hungary, sometime in the early 20th century - the exact time and place should be decided carefully, because pre-WW1 it's all just good ol' Austria-Hungary, while if I decide to set it somewhere in Transylvania or present day Slovakia post-WW1 suddenly things are way hairier and the party has to navigate an ethnic and political minefield on top of getting spooked - one such cave, one amongst many, is discovered. Perhaps a grazing sheep falls into a sinkhole, perhaps a great rain causes a small landslide revealing a gap, or perhaps the teacher or new priest writes a letter to an academic friend about an interesting cave he heard of from the locals.People of various professions (the PCs) arrive to the sleepy village, the usual CoC assemblage: a journalist, some academics (geologist, folklorist, what have you), and together with the local intellectuals and a few curious farmers begin the expedition into the cave.Only what they find is more than just stalagmites.They crawl and dig and perhaps even blow some gaps open, going ever deeper in the name of science and curiosity. Finally, deep in the cavern, they find an ornately carved structure - an altar, or shrine of sorts, embedded in the limestone layers of the former seabed in a way leaves no room for doubt: it's old, older than the cave and older than the limestone itself.This is where I'm troubled. Does the ancient altar bear the visage of some Great Old One? Does it contain within an artifact of power not meant for human use? Is it a way to communicate with a being beyond mortal minds? Is it just what it is, and the horror comes from the locals that begin to either fear or worship it, and subsequently begin turning on each other? The possibilities are way too tantalizing, and I can't lock it down to just one thing.
>>55437016>>55437070Pretty interesting. It would take a lot of work but if you just can't decide on what you want the threat to be you could always go the sandbox route of detailing the area and its history, creating some important NPCs, and writing out all the different possible threats you're thinking of so whoever is running the game has a bunch of options.Here's my pitch for pinning something down though, if you're dealing with some kind of pre-human altar or artifact it probably was created by one of the servitor races, maybe one (or more) of them is still somewhere in the caves. Maybe it's trapped or sleeping and the all the noise from the research team woke it up or gave it an out. Maybe it's hungry, or maybe it just wants to leave. Maybe it's one of the creatures that isn't completely indifferent to humanity and it's gotten pretty bored over all those years in the caves.
>>55437327Sadly I'm not versed enough in the Mythos. Would the CoC rulebook have enough info on servitor races?
where to find historically accurate resources for game supplements (news, newspapers, events, maps etc)Gonna be running a Cthulu-Noir NYC game using GURPs and I wanna keep things as accurate as possible because i guess im a masochist
>>55437457It's been a while since I've read through the CoC rulebook, but I'm pretty sure it does. And I got it wrong, anything under Greater or Lesser Independent Races on this chart would make more sense than Servitor Races, though you can make creatures from both columns work.
How do people handle pregnancy horror in their games? I want to run an introductory session with some friends about horrible subterranean cockroach creatures laying eggs in already pregnant cultists. The roach grubs incubate in the willing mother using her human baby as sustenance for growth, before eating her from the inside out in typically disgusting fashion as they hatch.Is this too 'edgy'? Rather than focusing on the horror of gore, I wanted to emphasise the single-minded terror of insane parents willingly killing their own children to further the aims of their new masters, but I don't want the adventure to be based around 'alien rape' to the point of absurdity.Any ideas for this adventure?
>>55440736If you're playing with your friends and know they won't react negatively to it, go for it, otherwise the gore angle might actually be a safer bet.
>>55441493I just don't think senseless violence in this capacity would be very effective for my group. We've all seen Alien, so the violent shock of that film won't hold the same appeal to them as much as the betrayal of lunatic parents.For the record, I'm not really planning on 'impregnating' any of my players. The whole pregnancy angle would be the reveal that sets up the creatures themselves.
>>55441543Then yeah, you're probably fine. It's just that people generally aren't as turned off by over the top violence as they are weird alien impregnation and allusions to abortion. If your group's down for that kind of thing, go for it, that's definitely creepier than gore.I was just saying if you were playing this for strangers or people whose taste for scares you aren't really familiar with you'd probably have less chance of seeming edgy if you went the more accessible gore angle.
Who's your favorite MTF, anons?http://www.scp-wiki.net/task-forces
Alright gents, I'm probably going to be running a session of Delta Green for my group. None of us have played before so I'm trying to find a one shot that will kinda cover every base- bit of investigating, bit of combat, some horror and then cover up. I'm debating on having them all be in DG already or just coincidentally run into whatever the hook is and follow it, since they can all RP not knowing what the fuck is going on a bit better.Any suggestions? Likely party will be a proffessor of archaeology, two FBI agents, and a spec ops guy who recently got out and is now a cop.
Would today's people, who are much more familiar with concepts of monsters, aliens, horrors, etc than people of Lovecraft's time, have better chance of withstanding fearful Lovecraftian revelations and/or seeing Mythos monsters/deity?
>>55445215Today's people are triggered by words and require safe spaces, what do you think?
>>55445215No amount of X-Files you watch will shield you if the Color just happens to bring the party to your rooftop.
>>55445215I think it's less knowledge of everything ghastly and monstrous, and more a pervading secular Western culture.One of the horrors associated with Lovecraft is that Christian theology isn't only untrue, it's as completely fabricated and meaningless as cartoons on television, which in turn are as void and vacuous as every other thought humanity has ever entertained.People nowadays are more used to nihilism and a lack of meaning. Modern society is defined by materialism. Values have shifted noticeably. What scared many of the people reading Lovecraft's stories when they released wouldn't affect modern readers the same way.That said, monsters are still monsters, so I'd expect a shoggoth to incite rabid fear the same as any other time.
>>55441453Dont worry about him, hes just triggered.
>>55444614Run Last Things Last for them, its the scenario from Need to Know, a free pdf. If you want something more shooty either play Kali Ghati or blend in a shotgun scenario
>>55446468I like it. I might have the thing in the tank escape before they get there and a murder happen in a nearby town where the victim was ripped apart and splattered all over their living room. Now it turns into a race to hunt it down and clean up this guy's mistake. Teach them two important lessons: 1. Don't fuck with unnatural powers, ever. 2. Always have the balls to clean up after yourself, even if it's your wife.
>>55410210Do yourself a favor and get the library editions anon