Mildly Heretical EditionWarmasters Triumvirate is an attempt at creating yet another 40k AU. The Primarchs have changed, and instead of appointing a single Warmaster upon returning to Terra, the Emperor is critically wounded on Ullanor. In order to make sure the Great Crusade continues, the Warmasters' Triumvirate is put in place. Tensions start running high and this eventually culminates in a civil war between Loyalists, Chaos Traitors and Separatists...Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14hqd6RLLgvLdYCIoLCHhQkidgXIsKUzrugyWu6pthEMChapter Constructor: https://bitbucket.org/chaptergenerator/chaptergenerator/downloadsPrevious thread: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/54639397/Thread goals:>Attempt to get through the Brotherwar>Determine what happens at the Battle of New Hope>Determine when the Ruinstorm is created, and exactly who does it>Determinate how the Eastern Black Crusade goes down>Figure out what happens during the rest of the Brotherwar>Describe the Siege of Terra >Explain the Scouring>Finish up the Rise of the Ecclesiarchy>Start the path towards the War of the Beast
>>54788355First for the Ninth
>>54788376now we just have to hope that Marduk's anon turns up and deploys a picture of the Leviathan Host for post nine
I wish the Chapter Constructor had stuff for Terminator armor. I'm enjoying playing around with it too much.
Putting last thread's prompt into this one in case some people missed it.---------------------------------What was your primarch and legion doing at the Battle of Terra. If they weren't present, what were they doing?
I think we should start thinking about what the legions/chapters do after the scouring.
>>54793219The Sentinels (and their successor chapters) increase their efforts in the construction of the Imperial Ring. A series of fortress worlds surrounding Imperial Space. Once that's completed, Je'She leaves alongside Kincaid, if I recall correctly
>>54793219The Blades return to Kadir and start organizing the Sucessor's creation.
>>54794201Isn't Kadir in Sep territory?
>>54794456So far, it is. But I've to move it, unless the Seps get their territory cropped in that place. I'm planning to have it near Caliban. Distance to Terra isn't that important I think, because Linares' discovery is made thanks to a message sent by the Kadirians, and that makes Empy set course to Kadir, and there He found the Primarch.
>>54789638While the chapter constructor doesn't really have anything other than your basic Marines, the chapter Generator lets you colour terminators, dreadnoughts and several other vehicles as well.
>>54793219It might be important to decide on when the Codex is finished.The Marchers return to Manaan and reorganize. Their gene-sire is dead, so they reunite under their new legion master, Taarush Amin. They'd stick together long enough to partake in the Scouring, but split up as soon as the Codex is written.>>54786278>>54786636>Linares returningPretty amusing, but I don't think this'll hold up by the time we actually get to 40k. For one, we cannot yet assume that Linares will be the only one returning to the Imperium, so it seems unlikely he'd just be given command over the armed forces.There's also the thing that Mot brought up; Linares never really speaks how you'd imagine a Primarch speaking. Which can be kind of funny, but makes it impossible to take it seriously.>>54783238>>54783294>Chanka the UnbendingI like it, though it does seem like there aren't any real consequences to it. Maybe it'd be more impressive if he'd give into it more and more, and eventually truly fall to Chaos, abandoning his post. Or he could storm into battle as soon as he notices the malign influences, hoping to die in battle before he falls from the Emperor's light.
Post Nikaea, many of the Librarians of the Corsairs Gallant end up being reported as 'dying' and are inducted into the Fillibuster (secret Blackshield) segments of the legion, where they take up key leadership positionsThe Librarians of the Corsairs Gallant tended to be specialized in divination rather than other psychic talents, though this was no-less deadly in combat. In the grand scale, it was used to further adapt their flexible and adapative battle doctrine, and in personal combat made them always seem as if they were one step ahead, or seeming to guide shots on target with unnatural accuracy.
>>54797617The skull helmet looks cool on them!
>>54799382Seemed fitting given how heavy they're invoking the skull. I imagine various Gothic versions of traditional pirate flags.Which reminds me, not sure where to put it but was intending to have a warband of the Corsaris break away later, but not as Chaos or Loyalist, but rather simply go rogue for certain other reasons. Not sure where to list them though, on the list. Guessing just Separatist.
Wait, how have we never discussed this?PROMPT: What is your legion's badge?Pic related is the Marchers' badge.
>>54797258Actually, you just gave me an idea for a new faction amongst the Golden Mountains, inspired by Chanka.>>54800848Pic related. Psyker Golden Mountains replace the black with the purple.
>>54788355I's been a thinking and I wonder, what do people think of there being a demilitarised zone between the Imperium and the Union? It could be the place where we stick some of the Xenos factions in it to justify their continued existence.
>>54804088The 'DMZ' would be Je'She's Imperial Ring. It's inconcievable for the Union and Imperium to wage constant all-out war for 10 millenia, so there should be an area where they keep out of.Sticking xenos in there would be an interesting idea.
>>54797258Linares' character doesn't really helps to take him seriously among equals. His joy and loudness make it difficult, so his vocabulary wouldn't be that out of place. But as it seems that there's some kind of consensus about this matter, I would probably just drop that facet of him. At least the cursing part, as he was raised by simple peasants, and pretty much adopted their simplicity speaking. Also, the language itself may be a barrier.
>>54804722Its one thing to speak simply with a crude vocabulary.Its another to speak like an internet memer. I'll put it this way, should a Primarch, in Warhammer, sound like a medieval farmer, or a redneck?
>>54804138I imagine that this grey area would be where all the fun rogue trader stuff happens too.
>>54800848The CoH badge is a crossed Key and Candle, I can't find a good image for it though.
>>54804851More like a farmer, in that case
>>54800848This is what I came up with a while back, though it's not in color.
>The AvalancheInspired by their captain's sacrifice, Chanka's company took to following his attitude, putting what they thought was the right thing to do before codes of conduct and whatnot.They would not bend, they would become The Avalanche. This tradition continued, and when Pacha became one with Apu and his consciousness faded, the members of the Avalanche decided to keep fighting the Ecclesiarchy, openly speaking against any attempts at deifying the Emperor, eventually being deemed heretics, and effectively becoming a rogue warband of Space Marines.The Avalanche fight to defend the Imperium, against all Xenos, Separatists and Chaos; directly helping Imperial citizens when they can get by without drawing attention from those that would hunt them, for the Golden Mountains (and some other Loyalists) secretly give them access to their facilities and ships when possible, the Avalanche taking the opportunity to recruit new members across other children of Pacha who feel the same way. When possible, in places that they defend, they destroy religious texts and places (although the Aquila and busts of the Emperor are left untouched), and they openly attack the Doomsingers unless members of said legion are defending the citizens of the Imperium from some threat or another.
>>54805770Cool stuff man, really cool. Who's their 'Chapter Master', or whatever the title would be?(Most) Titan Marcher successors would allow them access to their worlds; they accept the Ecclesiarchy, but do not truly consider the Emperor a deity.
>>54805889They would remain Company-sized (and otherwise stick to Astartes doctrine), their leader taking the rank of Captain (and staying as such, Avalanche members never accepted promotions beyond the rank while Pacha still led the Legion unless they felt the company's philosophy no longer suited them.)Thus, 1st Lieutenant Rimac, who was field-promoted to Captain upon Chanka's death, became the first Captain of The Avalanche.
>>54805770The Blades would gladly offer them food, fire and shelter, as the bonds between the extinct Legions are still strong. Some may see the direct attack at the Ministorum as heresy, but the general policy of the SB's sucessors is that the Ecclesiarchy itself is stupid, and Empy isn't a god, so they wouldn't care
>>54804138I feel that if neither Imps nor Seps are allowed to enter the DMZ it would make sense that minor Xenos empires could spring into being. After all the Korean DMZ is home to unique varieties of plants who only survive because humans don't interact with them (or so I've been told). I was thinking the Tau could form a farsight enclave style faction in the DMZ if people wanted to keep them around.
>>54806946Establishing a DMZ works on planets where there's terrain to hold. In the emptiness of space it seems like such a zone would have little practical impact since one can circumvent it in 3 dimensions.
>>54804138>constant all-out war for 10 millenniaIsn't that one of the defining characteristics of the setting?
>>54800848A BLOODY DOG SKULL SHOUTING LIGHTNING
>>54800848The Cardinal Skull is the primary logo of the Corsairs Gallant.
>>54805022AKA: Corsairs' Playground
>>54800848The bejeweled skull of the "Mortikopf", an ancient Markchian icon, was chosen as the badge of the Death's Heads. It symbolizes the sacrifices of the many for the hope of a better future, an ideal common to much Markchian media and lore.
>>54805388Seems a tad complex
In terms of relationships, I'm thinking that Marduk and Rahman would end up not unlike Pert and Dorn. Rivals over a similar doctrines but slightly different. And likely brutal conflict too.
>>54807004Kind of, sort of, yes and no.The OU doesn't really have an equivalent to the Imperial-Union border. There will never be peace; just an armistice. It seems highly unlikely either side would be able to keep sending men, women and Astartes into the worst battlefield imaginable for 10,000 years. From time to time I imagine hostilities would be lowered, just to allow both sides to breathe a bit.>>54806989I doubt it'd be enforced that well, but having a gap between the Imperium and Union is cool narratively.I do realize that it's not the only place xenos empires would grow or, like >>54805022 says, where Rogue Traders would operate. We have to remember that even the OU Imperium does not cover the entirely galaxy, the outer edges are still free for xenos infestation.>>54806025Right, cool man! How do they wage war? I imagine they'd employ blitzkrieg/shock and awe tactics?>>54805388>>54810561It might be complex, but it fits the Souls. Be sure to add it to the Google Sheet.>>54811437For an incredibly charismatic Primarch, Rahman isn't making a whole lot of friends. I kinda like that though.I still want to know what he thinks of Mot.
>>54814781He's a leader of men, and Primarchs aren't men, really. :PPlus, aye, I think it accurately reflects his differences. Rahman didn't end up on a conflict world. He was raised with tutors and high society and exploration. His combat doctrine was bred out of necessity; flexibility and force multipliers were simply necessary when you have to balance your budget and have linited resources. With Mot, he likely has a comfortable relationship. They don't clash much but its nothing unique. Likely gave him tech fragments as 'gifts' and maybe asked for help developing hardware.
TYRANIDS NEW NAME>Sothanids>Sothites>Sothanai>Sothids>Spess Bugs>Sotharrans>Sotha-sumfing
>>54815619From this list, I like:>Sothites>Sothanai>Sothids
>>54815697I agree, Sothites sounds good enough
>>54815697I like Sothids the most myself.
My vote is for Sothanids or Sothanites
>>54800848Shitty tracing coming through
>>54816446It's an Elephant skull
>>54816453very good observational skills, kido
>>54807211That's actually pretty good, think you do mine better? >>54807211
>>54819071Meant to link to >>54816446
>>54814781Indeed, as their small numbers prevent them from fighting big field battles like the Golden Mountains do, although they also rather like guerrilla, giving their natural proficiency on fighting in difficult terrains and their psyker specialties.However, when they manage to team up with a larger formation (such as when convincing an IG regiment that they are fully loyalist, Ecclesiarchy-approved Astartes; or openly working with one that supports them), they do sometimes pick up their Storm shields and go into a frontal battle.
Post-heresy Forge Lords special equipment:>magma roundsSpecialized bolt shells that, when striking flesh or armor, create a reaction that superheats the projectile, transforming it into molten metal. >electrostorm mortarA modified minotaur artillery tank, the Electrostorm fires a possessed electromagnetic shell that can annihilate machine spirits - or turn them against their allies>balewire grenadeThis explosive device has a payload that releases a shroud of semi-intelligent razorwire that can entangle infantry and stop vehicles in its tracks. It has even been proven to be effective against daemons.
>>54819302>Semi-intelligent razor wireShit man. That's messed up.The thing I like about these pieces of tech is that they're still largely mechanical. Not necessarily daemon engines.
Hot off the presses; a shit showhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1TmKeNMplcUy4CaJ03kG0-zB7ez2vMdLpjXvhoUt5gXs/edit?usp=sharing
>>54819302well that all sounds very nasty. Fitting for the Forge Lords
How tall should Kinn be?
>>54825166Not particularly tall, I'd say. Pretty average, for a Primarch.
>>54825166I always imagined him as tall and lankyish for a Primarch. Like still huge but no where near as broad as some of the others.
>>54819302Magna rounds could function like an EFP. Seems like it would work well.
>>54826511I went with this. Fourth tallest Primarch, with a strong, athletic, but not brawny build
>>54827046yeah, really how I think he'll look, also tall and thin adds to his stooped over, hunched kind of image. More so than if he was short and squat.
>>54829428Ohhh, good point, I never thought of that
So, the Terran Webway never gets sundered right?
>>54833123Well no Magnus is around to fuck everything up so probably not?
>>54833123No, but the Emperor also never really gets started on it. He did some preliminary work, enough so that the Golden Throne could act as a life support system, but the webway gate isn't an issue, no.
>>54834347Actually l'm sorta bummed as I had a possible idea for it.
Converted Warpclaw Parthenios. He'll later become the Chapter Master of the Warp Claws.Will start painting him tonight.
>>54834421Yeah, those sorts of things can happen. The removal of the Emperor early on is necessary to put the Triumvirate in place, however.>>54834476So the Warp Claws become a loyalist chapter?
>>54834863Nah the Rune Claws are Seps. Gyhadred pardons them for the crimes of Lambach.
>>54835095Well, that I knew. You called them Warp Claws, which confused me.
>>54835128Oh sorry. Warpclaws is the old name for the Chosen. When Lambach renamed them he had squad leaders changed from to Warpclaw.
>>54793219Well, after the forces of chaos in the east retreated into the Maelstrom, Valorn wanted to make sure that the buggers STAYED in the maelstrom, seeing as wiping them out wholesale was unrealistic. To this end he charged several companies of Hounds with patrolling the edges of the Maelstrom to beat back Chaos incursions. After his disappearance this force separated itself from the Hounds proper and dubbed themselves the Cerberi (pic is their new colour scheme). They've since arranged themselves into three fleets each containing roughly 500 marines each, which patrol the edges of the Malestrom. They do this in rotation, with two fleets patrolling the Maelstrom and one back in Hound territory recruiting/resupplying at any one time. Every 20 years the resupplying fleet switches with the fleet that's been patrolling the longest, bringing both recruits and equipment to resupply the remaining fleet.
>>54836827Really sweet.It's a good idea to have them rotate, lest you end up with a situation like the Astartes Praeses.I take it the Pale Hound's territory is near the Maelstrom, and by extent the Imperial border, then?
>>54838081I think so. A part of me wants them to hold Taiga, but A: I don't even know if that'll be union territory and B: It makes sense for one of the more moderate factions within the Union to border with the Imperium. Possibly less confrontational that way
>>54839456I should note that I don't mean control Taiga as in "Their territory stretches from Taiga to the edge of the Maelstrom". Instead, if I was going in that direction I think the Cerberi would basically just fuck off to the territory of whoever's near the Maelstrom and patrol, regardless of who owned it. They'd probably be as diplomatic as possible about it, but by that point it's basically a sacred obligation to keep an eye on chaos and they ain't stopping just cause someone doesn't like them doing their primarch given duty.
>>54839532>>54838081Right, that all makes sense to me. We should really figure out how Sep space is organized exactly.
>>547883553 day old thread with 84 posts? Wow. 2.3 posts per hour on average? Pathetic. This is to be expected for one of the slow boards but you guys really need to re-evaluate what you're accomplishing here. It's just sad really, at least the Imperium Asunder, Hektor Heresy and Nobledarkwhatever 40k guys actually put out content on occasion.
>>54844867We do most of our work on Discord and voice chat fag boy And Hektor Heresy was some toxic bullshit
>>54844867We have content.https://docs.google.com/document/d/17-kTDZecaXjHdWpWdeCtu2npjveL-5ghEmRrTky0S2Y/editWe are still working hard on it though. A lot of us work some pretty insane hours and we're scattered all over the world so getting enough of us on at once to collaborate important ideas can be a bit tricky.But at the same time, what's the rush? We aren't trying to meet a deadline. Just something we do as a hobby when we have the spare time right?
>>54845482>>54845491>Kinnévail and Lambach in a nut shell
>>54845482Yeah and I bet you were part of the Hektor crew too just with a different name now. Guilty parties always turn on their compatriots. Although at least the rest of them had the decency to leave when they ran out of ideas instead of pretending like "Discord" is a place where shit gets done and somehow that's the reason shit's not happening. Stay on Discord instead of wasting thread space on /tg/ then. Then you can wither away all you like. Proof is in the pudding buddy. 3 days. 88 posts. You do the math.
>>54846307I don't like math tho, pls do it for me>>54839456Wasn't Taiga destroyed? Or was that a different Legion? I'll admit, I know more about some Legions than others.Also, how is our timeline of the Brotherwar looking thus far? We seem to keep getting derailed from that by other (not wholly unimportant) shiny things...
>>54847135Magpies the lot of us
The Aquilon Knights, supposedly part of one of the latter foundings lost to history, are a chapter that operates inside the Imperium during the 41st Millennium. Fiercely religious, they are know for their talent in close-combat and void operations, often utilizing a full-sized bolter in one hand and an axe in the other. Proudly displaying the Imperial Aquila, they have been spotted in many battlefields and with increasing frequency over time.However, the truth is that the Knights are a group of the Corsairs Gallant, operating in some unknown plan. Perhaps one of the most ambitious of their attempts, the Aquilon Knights were the first attempt to masquerade as an entirely new chapter. However, it was presumably not the last...
>>54847866I like it, it's a really interesting idea that could open up some good stories.I also realized today that I've been neglecting the VIth Legion's robo-buddies, so I think I'm gunna need to step the beep-boops up a bit...
Ok guys how many years exactly should we allow between the Battle of New Hope and the Battle of Terra?I'm think 15ish years? Gives us alot of time to get in some cool battles and things?
>>54850080I think 20 years even. Give it a really prolonged feel that climbs in intensity, adding to the desperation of the Battle of Terra
>>54850619Works for me. When I get home I'll add the siege to the document officially. So we atleast have it there. Unless someone else wants to do it.
>>54850784Sounds good.Have we established where all the traitor legions are when they reveal themselves at New Hope?As far as I know we have:I. Leviathan Host - At New HopeIII. Gunslingers - ???VII. Soaring Host - At New HopeVIII. Chosen of Hecate - At the Galactic Fringe?X. Smoke Stalkers - ???XIII. Loxodontii - At Babylon V?XX. Forge Lords - Sep space working to create the ruinstormIt would be good to know where all the traitor legions are so we can work out how they start fighting to Terra.Also, have we established when exactly the Ruinstorm starts?
>>54850994Smoke Stalkers are at New Hope. CoH are at Grenthor trying to convert the Dusk Phantoms then soundly getting the snot kicked out of them.Gunslingers I don't rightly know at that time?
>>54850619I've added everything I know about the siege of terra to the timeline document. Anyone with something else to add should give it a look and add what needs adding.
>>54850994The Blades would be fortifying Terra, Linares somehow knew that shit was going to hit the fan and went there to prepare for a possible attack. The attack occurred 15/20 years later than he expected, but the planet was ready. Also, which and when are the important general events that must go into the Legion's timeline?
>>54851498I don't see much sense being on Terra for 20 years. The Silver Blades being a close combat legion. If anything, the Titan Marchers or The Sentinels overseeing the defenses of TerraLore-Wise, Je'She would most likely request Linares and his legion to be at the forefront of the defenses. Delaying advancing forces and launching counterattacks on Traitor forces advancing for Terra
>>54851549Yes, ofc. After seeing how things are going, they would come back to the front. The Legion wouldn't survive 20 years of sitting still. They were just for an immediate "just in case"
>>54851596No stress then lol
>>54851498I've actually thought about that, I don't think it's necessary for the Blades to have any real presence on Terra until the Siege.After the Emperor's incapacitation the Titan Marchers return to Terra with him the Emperor. Raj is a great architect and siegemaster, so he decides its necessary to reinforce the Imperial Palace. A large detachment of Marchers would be on Terra during this time.In the years leading up to the Summit of New Hope, Kinnévail would tell Raj that his efforts are required back out in the field. Kinnévail would then station a third of his legion, Chamber Valdor, on Terra. They're already Custodes-light in terms of culture, so they'd be more than willing to hold the palace. Kinnévail would also use his time on Terra to lay the groundwork for the Ecclesiarchy.That's not to say that Linares and the Blades don't factor in though. It would make a lot of sense for Je'She to actually bring Linares to New Hope. Pacha isn't really the smartest, Einchurt is too shady, Solomon is fighting Mot and Kinnévail is on Terra, so Je'She takes Linares and Raj.Does that make sense?
>>54850994I think the Gunslingers simply stay out of it. They'd show up later.The Ruinstorm is started shortly after New Hope, once the Seps and Loyalists have returned to their side of the galaxy. Or, on the way there anyway.>>54850080>>54850619The canon Heresy lasts 7 years, so I suppose 15 would be enough? The Ruinstorm would last 20 or 25 years because of Hashut though.
>>54851637Although Linares may be too hot-headed for the task, he could be there, with a detachment of his Legion in a system nearby, just in case? Anyway, he could do a good job there, both in the "negotiations" and in the coming battle
>>54852154Taking Linares and Raj would certainly send a message to the Separatists. By bringing them, Je'She shows that he's coming with one hand opened in friendship (Linares) and one hand clenched into a fist (Raj).Plus, if things go south, you want the best swordsman in the Imperium on your side.
>>54847135I kinda meant they hold the system that Taiga is in not Taiga itself, but yeah Taiga was destroyed. To a lesser extent than Caliban was in the ou though. I'm thinking it kinda looks like pic, not completely destroyed but a decent chunk of it has been broken into pieces. Which people could of course mine if they were so inclined.
A'right, Blades Timeline:>804.M30: Greatug’s Clash. The IVth and IXth Legions repel Waaagh! Greatug, in the Prospero Sector.>806.M30: Retuh's Compliance. The Legion suffer heavy loses but brings the planet to compliance. Then, falls back to recover>807.M30: Linares meets the IVth Legion, renames it "Silver Blades" and gives them their final Crusade form.>852.M30: The Silver Blades and the Chosen of Hecate fight together to bring a world into compliance. The depleted Legions became strongly bond together during the conflict.>020.M31: New Hope’s Peacetalks failure. The Silver Blades at the Planet engage in battle with the Separatists Legions present, gaining time for their reinforcements to come. When they are finally arriving, Marduk unveils his scheme and launchs his traitors towards the Loyalist lines. Bloodbath ensues.>040.M31: The Battle of Terra. The Traitor Legions attack the cradle of humanity. The IVth Legion anticipated this movement and took positions. The massacre at Holy Terra lasts for months, both sides suffering heavy casualties. Finally, the attack is driven back, and the Traitors flee to the Eye of Terror. Linares pursues Kane to the Warp, to ever be seen again for 10 millenia.>???.M31: Second Founding. The Legion disappears, and new Chapters are born. However, the Chapters retain the Legion feeling and spirit, cooperating closely between themselves and enacting the “Sword of Vengeance protocol”, in which all of them would reunite under the Legion banner in times of dire need.>M32: War of the Beast
>>54852821>371.M35: No More. A Skitarii maniple infiltrates into the Silver Blades Chapter’s armory, and steals most of the modified vehicles that the Chapter had. The Tech-Priests unmodify them and send them back to the Chapter, where they were modified again. This triggers a small confrontation between the Astartes and the Martians. After it, the Mechanicus is forced to accept the Chapter’s modified vehicles, and even assist in their maintenance. >541.M40: Waaagh! Kadirboss. Kadir is attacked by countless greenskins. The orbital defenses fell, and the Waaagh! made planetfall. The whole Silver Blades chapter rally at its homeworld, and only after more successor chapters rally there, the 6-year-long war finishes. Kadir became a barren wasteland with a few tens millions inhabitants. Took 50 years to return to its former glory.>011.M41: Waaagh! Kunter. Kadir is attacked again by the greenskins, but this time they are repelled in-orbit. The Chapter pursue their archenemy to a nearby world, and attacks the Waaagh! there. With a surgical strike, Chaper Master José Nepomuceno kills the Warboss and returns to Kadir victorious.>851.M41: First encounter with the Sothites. The Chapter’s first meeting with the bugs. Three companies were sent to deal with the Great Devourer at a system near Caliban. The swarm faced ten thousand promethium shells raining from the sky, and was quickly repelled. Months after, the Devourer comes back, and swallows the world.>999.M41: Linares’ return. After 10 millenia, the Primarch comes back from the Warp, only to find the shattered Imperium that now is.
Also, a new gadget: >The Melta BombThis is what happens when you give a Techmarine too much freedom and a Melta Gun. Realising that they needed more firepower to deal with super-heavies, the Blades' Techmarines started to work in a dumb, air-delivered munition: The Melta BombWeighting nearly 8k pounds, and carried by Stormbirds in their cargo bays, these masive ordnance pieces are thrown directly to the enemy vehicle. First, dragged out of the cargo bay by grav chutes, and then arcing towards their target. When they hit, a massive fire storm rages in a radius of 30 meters, decimating infantry and light vehicles. But this is only a secondary effect: everything in ground 0 is completely obliterated by the Melta payload. With time, they became more advanced devices, some of them including plasma payloads as a secondary one, and others receiving maneuvering fins and simple cogitators that steered the munition towards its target. Only two of them can be carried in a regular Stormbird, but they are enough to inspire fear into the Loxodontii and Forge Lords ranks, as a pair of Stormbirds can, and will, wreak havoc in their Super-Heavy lines.
And speaking of Stormbirds:The Silver Blades still use them even after the break-down of the Legion, given its ability to carry heavy payloads, as their Melta Bombs, or to convey large amounts of supplies. They are specially wanted for the Melta Bombs, as the Thunderhawk has a way smaller cargo bay and less payload capacity. That leaves the Thunderhawks free to carry men and more urgent supplies to the front lines
>>54853327A very well known Stormbird of the Legion is the named "You Can Do It"During the Brotherwar, it was used as a ground support gunship, launching Melta Bombs and supporting the Ground forces in a general way. During a battle with the Leviathan's Host, a company called for Air Support, and this particular Gunship appeared with a "You can do it" sign flying behind it, and blasting everything out of the Traitor forces. The hilarious event gained it the name and the anecdote to the Legion.
>>54853370Wouldn't the banner be in Kadiran (Spanish)?
>>54853437Maybe, depending on how extended is Gothic in the Legion. Anyway, I usually written in english for better understanding
>>54853257Melta Bombs are already a thing. So you might wanna change the name.
>>54853257>>54853727Argent Melta Bombs?
Speaking of Aerial Fun Times, had something for Corsairs Gallant, and perhaps other legions, based upon their smaller forces and thus tending towards force multipliers:Thunder RaptorIn the same way the Fire Raptor was a dedicated gunship variant of the Storm Eagle, the Thunder Raptor was a dedicated gunship variant, based in actuality on the Thunderhawk Transporter. Where twin heavy bolters were usually mounted, the aircraft could instead mount paired bolt cannons or lascannons, while the forward doors were converted to independently targeting weapons mounts not unlike that of the Fire Raptor, specifically the Corsairs’ own Silverwing Pattern.Then, in place of the carrying arms, further independently targeting mounts were installed, three on either side. The result was a mobile gunship bristling with weapons arrays, deployed when maximum firepower as necessary. Alternately, they were often employed in escort duty, as the bristling array of firepower turned them into flying fortresses.andWildebeest Armored Mortar CarrierBased on STC fragments discovered by the XXI legion, the Wildebeast is a light mobile artillery platform based on the Rhino platform. Removing the top hatch and mounting a quad-launcher in a vertical mount, the Wildebeest provides a rapid close-in artillery platform. Mars was slow to sanction the pattern, and the fact that the Corsairs utilized it extensively before they gave their stamp furthered the divide between the central priesthood of Mars and the Corsairs, but also somewhat between the outlying Forge Worlds who grew flush with information supplied by the XXI Legion in their expansion across the stars.When the Corsairs Gallant did deploy in mechanized formations, they were often screened by vehicles such as the Wildebeest, with one assigned per two Rhino’s and expected to be the assigned on-call support for the squads in those two vehicles.
>>54853782Melta Buster may be a better one. Or Melta <Something Else) as Melta Bombs are the hand-held anti-tank and breacher charges.
>>54853727>>54853798MOMB? Massive Ordnance Melta Blast Or just Melta Aerial Bomb
>>54854357Not really 40k-y enough, I think. Melta Destroyer maybe, or something along those lines.In unrelated stuff:An unofficial designation in most legions, Moritat operatives were commonly utilized by the Corsairs Gallant, who was often full of cocky young and skilled marines who went out of their way to prove themselves. Referred to as Rakes, Picaroons, Buccaneers, and a number of other titles, their official designation was Brave, a title stemming back to pre-Imperial Manden society. Known for having true grit, they were armed with jump packs and twin mastercrafted bolters that utilized micro-suspensors for stability, meaning the Brave was capable of using them effectively one handed, and with razor-sharp chain bayonets allowing them to flow between ranged and melee with ease.Braves were some of the most accurate shots and utilized their access to legion stocks to employ the rarest and most powerful of their bolt ammunition to bring death to their foes, as well as small force field generators. Braves would deploy independently and hunt through the battlefield for commanders and leaders, sowing destruction and death as they cut to the heart of the enemy.Many Braves would eventually return to normal service, often as simply rank-and-file brothers after their hot tempers had been cooled, almost always with veteran marks to go with it. Others would pass from Brave into the upper ranks, as lieutenants or captains. A very small number became known as Great Braves, permanently in the role. These often further adapted their armor for the role with under-arm mounted grenade launchers, waist-mounted drums to feed their bolters and power blade bayonets, among others devastating implements.
>>54854891Terminator Squads, without Terminators.Is their fury a gene-seed side effect?
>>54855741Like I said in chat, not so much Terminators sans Terminator armor, but rather single man hunter-killers. They're Moritat, a not unknown thing in the period.The gene-seed side effect the makes Corsairs more curious is likely part of why they have more of the type than others, but the fact they recruit largely from high-born sons who are raised on stories of the legion likely plays into it too.The House Guard (pictured) are more akin to Terminators sans Terminator armor; artificer armor and iron halos, combi bolters and power (or other esoteric) weapons. Primarch's personal guard.Corsairs also have Brethren of the Court, the elite of their terminator formations.
>>54855741They're literally this https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Legion-Moritat-with-Volkite-Serpenta
>>54788355Whatup bitches? Got some free time to maybe do shit. What needs doing?
>>54856663We might need to know more about the relationships between the Separatists. Then we could get into how the Union is organized; how do the 7 states take shape?
>>54856695So we need another "Here's the Primarch's perspective on the others" kind of thing, except specifically for the Steel Souls and the other Legions?And regarding how the 7 states take shape, basically 100% of my part in that is determined by whether or not the group accepts the story I wrote earlier regarding building the Steel Souls around Sotha. If that's not kosher then I need to go write something else from scratch.So where do we stand?
>>54856776Kind of; the key thing we need to figure out right now is how the Brotherwar plays out. That requires us knowing how the Seps operate. We're also looking at the length of the conflict. Right now we're assuming the war in the West, Loyalists vs Traitors, goes on for 15 years and that the Ruinstorm lasts 20 years. How long could the eastern war last, and when exactly does Hashut ascend into lesser godhood?
>>54856883Who's fighting in the East? Isn't it just a bunch of Seps cut off from the rest of the Galaxy by the Ruinstorm and cooling their heels after getting driven back from Terra?
>>54856948Actually, Mot, his Forge Lords and the heretics from the Separatist and Loyalist legions are engaged in a war against the seps while the heresy goes down in Imp space. Also the Seps never get to Terra.
>>54857021>the Seps never get to Terra.Hmm. Well that does kinda change things a bit, yeah. I guess it doesn't hinder what I wrote for the Souls earlier though, they force a path through the Ruinstorm independently of the other Legions. So that's ok. Regarding the Mot + Heretics vs. Seps fight, the Steel Souls probably take a very active role in countering that, since they would have very few defectors.
>>54857021>>54857112As far as how long it might last? I guess that depends on how many reinforcements Mot gets, and whether they're fighting a holding/guerrilla action, or if they're actually trying to take and hold territory. If they're just hitting and running they could last... almost indefinitely, kinda like Chaos Warbands do in the OU. If they're trying to conquer on a permanent basis, they probably don't last very long since it's still like one, maybe two Legion's worth of forces against 6 or 7.
>>54856883I feel like Mot's eastern crusade should probably end after the Marduk dies and the Scouring begins. After all, with the heretics shattered he's not really getting the reinforcements that were perhaps expected and even if he succeeds in dealing with the Separatists he's still got the Imps to worry about.
>>54858627Yeah, I'd say so too. Mot is mostly there to stop the seps interfering with the Terra siege. So makes sense that once Marduk bites it he'd back off. I guess though that Forge Lords and their warbands would be more common in sep space afterwards than nost others.
Found a pic of Kinnévail
>>54861381Not pretty enough
>>54861381Not enough fabulous
>>54857112Yeah, we've tried to figure out a way to have the Siege come down to a three way battle, but we couldn't find a way to justify it. The Seps retreat to the east and have no reason to try and take Terra, let alone work alongside Chaos to do it.The Steel Souls getting involved would work quite well. Psykers are very effective against daemons. Makes you wonder how they percieve Hashut.>>54857212Mot recieves a lot of reinforcements from the non-Traitor legions. That gives him a considerable and mixed, albeit rowdy fighting force. He'll be making heavy use of guerilla tactics. He wouldn't win a straight up war.>>54858627>>54860026Fair enough. By that point Mot would have reached his goal already: Hashut's apotheosis. He'd retreat to the Maelstrom as soon as the Scouring begins. Perhaps the east has a Scouring of its own.
So, is there any major battle during the Brotherwar, aside from Terra and New Hope? We should do at least one, because rigth now it feels pretty empty
>>54869640A three way conflict needs a big three way battle I think.
>>54850994Phants at Babylon V, confirmed.
>>54869706Not just a big three way battle, but important ones where vital strategical assests are at stake. Let's get started. First of all, how we decide it? We can do it rolling dX in some creation table made like right now
>>54869750We could even standarize those tables, so we can get battles easily out the ass. I'm getting to work, for the lols at least.Meanwhile, anyone has any idea about a big/important battle of the brotherwar?
>>54869803The Alcoa Massacre, as I always mention when we ask about big battles
>>54870446Pls enlighten us
>>54870464The Alcoa Massacre is the battle at the outset of the war where the Dusk Phantoms ambush the mustering Death's Heads, in an attempt to remove them as a coherent threat. This succeeds, and the VIth Legion is split into splinter cells operating on their own with no real idea what has happened to the rest of their Legion.The battle includes roughly 80% of the VIth Legion, led by Einchurt himself, and a fair portion of the XVth (you'd have to ask Xun exactly how much), I believe led by Gyahdred.
>>54869640The Siege of Manaan happens. The Smoke Stalkers attempt to take the Titan Marchers' homeworld through a campaign of terror, but the Marchers hold their homeworld until the rest of the legion returns post-Brotherwar.
>>54868178Pretty much all this, yeah.
Some Titan Marcher special units.NuqasaanThe Titan Marchers are one of the least stealthy of the Legiones Astartes. This is because of the enormous company they so often keep; the Adeptus Titanicus does not wage war quietly.. There are some Astartes in the XVIIth however, who do prefer to act quietly and unseen, sabotaging the enemy: the Nuqasaan.The Nuqasaan are truly an oddity among the XVIIth. Titan Marchers are often loud and colorful, but the Nuqasaan are more muted and wear darker shades of armor. The Nuqasaan are greatly respected in the legion however. Few would dare question their purpose.The Nuqasaan make us of a modified pattern of Mk. IV power armor, the Maximus-Gradus pattern. These power armours forego some of the armored plating of regular Maximus patterns in order to allow for quieter movement and for them to carry more equipment. The Nuqasaan use this to go behind enemy lines before an assault and plant devastating explosive charges on key defense points. They also make use of smaller weapons, such as Grav-Pistols, and are more likely to use weapons like Power Swords and Lightning Claws. The way the Nuqasaan fight is based on strategies that were first employed by Raj Vokar, back during his insurrectionist days on Manaan, and still serve him well throughout the Great Crusade. They can allow the XVIIth finish campaigns in a single, massive attack, and can prevent the need for a lengthy siege.One of the most famous of the Nuqasaan is Onkar Sull, Captain of the One Hundred Sixty Sixth Company.
>>54872448Rajah VishaaliThe Rajah Vishaali is the personal honour guard of Raj Vokar, Primarch of the Titan Marchers. Its members, always a modest ten, are handpicked by the Primarch, champions from across the legion who the Titan Lord trusted with his own safety. These men were not necessarily those who had accomplished great feats of heroism during the Great Crusade, those would often be promoted within their own companies and chapters. The Rajah Vishaali were marines which showed a terrific knowledge of the moral standards of the Titan Marchers, as well as a great understanding of siegecraft. As such, the ten members of the Vishaali served not only as bodyguards to the Primarch, but also as the heads of the legion’s eventual chaplaincy. Through them, the Chaplains of the XVIIth legion and its successor chapters would always preach the importance of hard work, self-sacrifice and nobility.Marines who are given the chance to join the Rajah Vishaali are granted the title of Guru.The Rajah Vishaali are clad in Cataphractii-Deva Pattern Terminator Armor, a modified pattern of Cataphractii Terminator Armor, without a Powerfist, but with a greater arsenal, designed for the express purpose of siegecraft.
>>54872448Sneaky Warhound Engines when
>>54873065When Creed joins the Marchers, obviously
Iksuda, the BeastmasterThe most notable Techmarine of the Loxodontii was Iksuda of the fifth chapter, a man whose inherent skill and empathy for the Machine Spirit allowed him to restore all but the most devastated of the legion’s mighty transports. Apart from his technical knowledge was he also a gifted battlefield commander, which became apparent in the many engagements where he’d accompanied mechanized platoons into combat where he could keep the men organised all the while keeping his own machine in tiptop shape. His favourite transport would be named “Iron Tooth” as he’d adorned it with magnificent artwork depicting one of Babylon V’s mighty beasts, giving the front an appearance similar to a grim war-elephant. The life he ascribed to the Machine Spirit was seen by many outside the legion as superstitious, frivolous, even insane, and yet it was this conviction that made Iksuda into the dedicated machinist that he was.Iksuda would befall a twisted fate during the Brotherwar, as during an engagement he would be killed while inside “Iron Tooth” by a particularly brutal anti-armour shell which ripped through the machine’s hull. The Rhino transport itself seemed to roar in pain and grief, as if the Machine Spirit within had felt its beloved brother die, disregarding its own wounds. Grandfather Nurgle stirred in the warp, as Iksuda’s quickly fading soul cried out to his transport’s Machine Spirit, and moved by their bond decided to give them another life. “Iron Tooth”s hull would appear to melt as ceramite plates turned to muscle and rearrange to assume the shape of a huge warrior, before hardening to a pulsating carapace, again. Iksuda and “Iron Tooth” had become one, like a dreadnought and yet so much worse, and while their brutish hands would forever be unfit to maintain a machine, again, the “Beastmaster” could sprout countless mechandrites from the grotesque muscle from which it was made.
>>54876371Wouldn't it make more sense for him to go with Hashut?
>>54870804Yeah, it's to be a sizable portion of the legion, 80-90%. As I'm understanding the timeline, Gyahdred tries to warn Einchurt about Chaos, but Einchurt thinks he's full of shit, and the negotiations go... dynamic. (Which was Gyahdred's fall back plan.)>>54869640There's Alcoa above, Grethor, and the campaign against Kincaid's worlds.Grethor is Dusk Phantoms vs Chosen. Afterwards, the threat of Chaos is radically misjudged by other legions. I think we're putting it at the time of the council on New Hope.Kincaid's worlds are to burn after Alcoa, as Gyahdred tries to pull Kincaid away from the front so that way his Aristede and Mansa can talk some sense into Je'She about Chaos. That's not really their priority, though.
>>54880356YOChrist it's like we dance around each other.Would you be willing to move the Librarium blowing up closer to Nikaea? As it stands now, that happens before Kinn is even found
>>54881433Sure.Hahaha, sorry. I'm in US East now, so hopefully that will help.Perhaps the Conflagration is what "causes" Nikea. It also contributes to Gyahdred's isolation - psykers blame an amateur for ruining their thing, people see him as reckless.Means when he tells tales of Chosen gone mad, people assume he's guiltstricken and warpy.Lambach helps him out earlier, and the curse surfaces during Rangda as previously described, so we can draw out the Conflagration campaign in detail now.
>>54806946Lol. I was about to mention the same thing.>>54856695Again, thinking the Dusk Phantoms handle infrastructure and the like, based off a number of friendly forges and watch fortresses. Not all forges are Dusk Phantom aligned, but I think the majority are, over time, particularly since I think they play a major role in returning forges to central control following Mot's uprising.This clears out a lot of opposition, though I think there's some other powerful mechanicum factions. I'll write up something tomorrow with details.
>>54880356We should try to include these events into our timeline: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17-kTDZecaXjHdWpWdeCtu2npjveL-5ghEmRrTky0S2Y/editI'll be trying to find time to work on it today myself.>>54881649Could work, but that does mean it wouldn't take place during the Xenocides, considering Kinnévail isn't found by then.Also, speaking of Primarch discoveries. I've heard the idea of moving Rahman ahead a bit, to being about the 10th to be discovered. This would allow for Rahman, rogue trader extraordinaire, to speed up the search for his 11 remaining brothers considerably. Thoughts on this?
>>54884380I think it works out well, yes. Fits the role well, for sure.
>>54884561Let's see what the rest says.I've posted this before, but I lowkey do actually wanna do this. Pic related for SepMech Fabricator-General.
>>54884380Swap Rahman with Elsu, because Elsu being found 9th doesn't need to be cannon and he is a community Primarch now more or less. Ten you can fast forward Primarch discovery easily?
Rolled 17 (1d21)Also reviving a prompt we had that was pretty fun awhile back. write up a character for Another legion at random.
>>54885062Yes, I suppose that that would work well enough. Then we can move most Primarch discovery dates forward.The primary reason I thought this was necessary was because of Kinnévail. Him being the last makes a lot of sense, but he wouldn't have enough time leading up to Nikaea to properly develop himself. This could solve that problem easily, and give Rahman an important role.
>>54877934I didn't think of Hashut, you might be on to something.However I thought I read that he wasn't even a fully developed Chaos entity and more of an Abominable Intelligence that somehow gained a warp presence? Does that make him powerful enough prior to Mot fuelling him with souls?
>>54885088I heard Eldar AI, though I suggested a World Spirit of an Exodite world might work.
>>54885088Right. No, before Mot's eastern crusade Hashut was nothing more than a xenos AI of unknown origin that has a warp presence. He's already pretty damn evil, and becomes an actual warp entity and lesser deity later when Mot burns countless worlds in his name.
>>54885075Hell yeahDon't be afraid to write someone that leads a chapter or warband later on. Go nuts.
>>54885075Saheb Bahwar, the Cyclone. Titan Marchers Master of RecruitsSaheb Bahwar (which means Honourable Cyclone if I can translate properly) was among the oldest members of the Titan Marchers and as such had gained a fierce reputation as a master of every aspect of warfare. A mountain of a man by Titan Marcher standards, Bahwar's turban as well as his long, beloved beard became heavily decorated with commendations. Most proudly worn was a commendation from Raj's own brother Valorn Adras for Bahwar’s perfect execution of a siege in a rare joint action with the Pale Hounds. Bahwar would go to battle armed with an enormous Thunder Hammer named "Sky Cracker" and favored his own custom Storm Bolter when at range.Making note of the impact Bahwar had on new recruits Raj Vokar promoted the Cyclone to Master of Recruits. A role that Saheb Bahwar fulfilled with honor and dedication. Survival rates of neophytes increased drastically and the Titan Marchers began to produce some of the finest Marines in the history of the legion. Ultimately Saheb met his fate at the feet of his own Primarchs Titan during the siege of Terra. When the Gunslingers Primarch Deshain Kane detonated the core of the Titan Saheb was caught in the explosion. However his death was not in vain, the experienced Bahwar knew something was wrong with his Primarchs steed and managed to evacuate almost seventy of his charges from the blast radius. Many of the survivors claiming that the Cyclone could easily have made it to safety himself before the explosion but repeatedly went back to ensure others were removed from harms way first. The Cyclone's hammer was salvaged after the siege and when the second founding was announced those newest recruits that had learned everything they knew from Saheb formed their own chapter called the "Honourable Cyclones". "Sky Cracker" is the chapters most cherished relic and has been handed down from chapter master to chapter master right up to M41.
>>54885088>>54885102>>54885109>Abominable Intelligence that somehow gained a warp presence?ALLEGEDLY
>>54885351Shit yeah, that dude sounds cool. Definitely keeping him. Few things I can't help but wonder about:- Did Space Marine legions have Masters of Recruits? And even then, wouldn't they be stationed on the homeworld? If so, Parkaso Gurai would already be Master of Recruits after being sent back to Manaan.- I'm not sure if the Titan Marchers have ever campaigned alongside the Pale Hounds, they don't like people helping them, let alone the Marchers.
>>54885393Yeah I knew that the Pale hounds very rarely work with others unless 100% can't be avoided. Which is why I wrote that it was a rare occurrence. And why it was such an honor for him to receive praise from Valorn, a Primarch who appreciates perfection in everything he does. As to the master of recruits it may be the wrong title, what I mean is he was in charge of his own chapter of newly recruited marines, I used the word Neophyte but that was an incorrect term on my part.Basically newly inducted Marines who have finished basic training get sent to his chapter, then he decided on where their specialties were best suited and would give them recommendations for a better fit when they moved on. So if 1 chapter was more suited for close quatre fighting and he had a guy that was great at that aspect he'd recommend they go there.
Hellara had many scars. A lifetime of labor in the agri-fields had brought plenty of those, cuts and scrapes from harvests and planting, by rock and tool and machine. It was the way of things, everyone who worked fields had scars, and everyone who worked the factories had them too. The nobles, they did not have scars, or at least none th at Hellara had ever seen; she supposed that fingers might have some, cuts from the papers they moved, yet she had never seen the hands of a noble up close, so she did not know. It was said, though, that none of them were scarred. That was a sign of wealth and prestige, after all; to be scarless, perfect in form, and regal. Most failed, for the most part, at least in the last two. Hellara had little respect for the nobles, though she supposed they had their place in the world. Everyone had their place. She looked out over the fields from her seat, face weathered and wrinkled from her lifetime of sun and work, and thought about much. She had thought she might have gained a scar nearly every day, truly, for she had been a clumsy girl. She'd never have made it as a noble, for sure; too clumsy and too plain. The thought made her smile wryly.She knew one, though, for sure, who had fit just perfectly. Tall, regal, and scarless.
>>54885893It had been many seasons ago. She was still young then, having had only a single child yet. The dark ones had come without warning. Black hulls swooped from rent space, voids appearing in the sky and diving down on screaming jets. They caught many in the fields, harvesting the crop; there was irony in it, as they swept in with nets and chains, hauling up their own harvest of flesh. They were armored in shades of black and green, dark and painful to look upon, covered in spikes. Taller, moving with alien grace, they swept in and fell upon the workers.Hellara had been returning to the fields from her allotted material break when they first appeared. Halfway from the hab-village, she turned back to run, only to trip and skid upon the ground. That she hadn’t drawn blood was a shocker. A group of the invaders, riding wicked bikes bedecked in razors and spikes, roared overhead. Beneath their hulls were long barrels that spit void, impacting the defensive castellian turrets before they ever got off a shot. Others followed, riding flat metal panels and with long halberds in hand, and then skiffs full of the warriors as well. They were reaping a bloody tally, killing as many as they captured. Hellara watched from below, fear freezing her in place.She had been noticed soon after. One of the raiders dropped from a skiff that flung overhead, landing impossibly after such a fall. A strange bladed pistol was gripped in one hand, wicked knife in the other. They were not wearing a helmet. The skin was pallid, yet not, flush with black where there should be red, with a face both macabre and perfect at once, it seemed, yet the effect ruining both. Its ears were long, twitching, and it was scarred, oh so scarred. Scarred more than and she’d ever seen before. It raised the pistol, and Hellara had made her peace. Idly, she wondered what kind of scar such a weapon would have made upon her flesh.
>>54885897Then the creature's head exploded.An angel touched down near her, holding a colossal gun of crimson and gunmetal, barrel smoking. The figure was huge, a giant, armor the color like the sky after a storm, with silver edging. It’s descent had seemed to slow, and the green eyes swept the horizon. It was quiet, strangely so for something so large, sparing her but a moment's glance before charging off, colossal gun barking. The sound was deafening, louder than the roar of the engines of the horrific machines from before. She struggled and lifted herself from the ground.
>>54885900She saw perfection then. More giants in stormy armor descended, craft of the same color with marks like a compass surrounding a skull on their side lasing the black-hulled skiffs with fire. The giants were engaging the foul reavers, guns barking and bringing down one after the other. And at their head, most perfect of all, was a god in flesh. Taller still than the rest, and bearing no helm, the man was dark skinned, with hair of an unknown braid, laced with jewelry and filament of silver. His armor was more regal still, one arm with a blade of deep black, darker than even the hulls of the reavers, and other hand a pistol of blue crystal. His armor seemed to have a coat or cloak as a part, and it flapped behind him as he moved, struck, and fired, shouting commands to the other storm giants that had come to save them. He was perfect, noble and regal.And scarless.Hellara hadn’t gotten a scar that day. She thought that a miracle, along with all the others. The Emperor’s stormy giants, his angels of death. And his son, she learned, or one of them at least, at the head. They had tracked the reavers, arrived just to save so many from their grasp and gain justice for the others they’d preyed upon. And they’d saved Hellara.Now, as she sat, watching the fields where her seven children and many grandchildren even now were working, she smiled at the memory. That demigod had come, and saved her, and her people.And he had been unmarked, for the true nobles were such.Or so, at least, she had heard.
>>54885893>>54885897>>54885900>>54885903Reminds me of that comic with the farmer that somehow feels bad for the Orks because Marines kill them. The Corsairs aren't as scary as the Black Templars though, so what do I know?Good stuff man. A unique piece.
>>54886517Well, it's that, but Corsairs are more flamboyant heroes than mad crusaders so yeah. Sort of like that.
>>54885353Come now Kinboi. We as authors need to at least have a sound understanding how our creations work. I do agree there is a lot of flavour in Hashut being an undefined entity, yet if we are to use him we have to at least be able to categorise him enough to know where his power level lies and of what he's capable.
>>54886798I agree. We can pretend to be super mysterious by not giving any sort of clue towards Hashut's nature, but a mystery really isn't a mystery if there literally isn't an answer.I like the Eldar AI/World Spirit, with it's exact nature being unknown to the Imperium and universe at large.
>>54886798>>54888291I literally prefer the all of the above answer.A Khornate Greater Daemon dabbled in sorcery, and to increase its power, and dodge getting erased from existence by Khorne, "downloaded" himself into an AI, either Age of Strife or Xenos, then after getting fucked by Eldar, begins to leech power from the World Soul of his Exodite prison.This gives him some character development, but also a reason as to why he's a upper mid tier warp entity.
>>54889223I can dig this. Let's see what Mot thinks.
>>54889956I think that a combination of all of them makes the most sense, but I don't think it should be knowledge that anyone in-universe has.
I had an errant idea, thought it may be interesting to share>Emperor doesn't actually die on Ullanor, but is fatally wounded. His internment on the Golden Throne is little more than bed rest, the Emperor getting stronger by the decade, but his connection to the Golden Throne limits him to the throne room, cables hanging off him, wires constraining him to a device that causes him endless pain, but he's the Emperor, he can take it. He works on Emperor stuff, refining the Golden Throne, the human Webway, whatever other Emperor stuff there is to work on. However after seeing Deshain more or less stab him in the back, only a select few Custodes and the Sigilite know of his state, all the Primarchs kept in the dark, the Emperor moving pieces against those he doesn't trust from afar. It's actually the arrival of Chaos that takes him by surprise. >When the Daemon Primarchs breach the Imperial Palace, they face off with the Emperor and whoever else in attendance. Since we would have a Webway now, a cascade of Daemons may balance this out, what with Big E (even though weakened) and a cavalcade of Primarchs and Custodes and whatever else. Marduk, juiced out on Chaos, alongside another Primarch, maybe Deshain, lay down the coup de grace, putting the Emperor down for real this time. Now where am I going with this?Well, the Emperor is tipped off that things will go south a LOT sooner, but he's chained to a chair that makes his soul scream, what can he do about It? Well not a lot personally, so in his stead, he charges Malcador personally to find men of character, skill, and determination. For however long has from his initial wounding to his true internment, the Emperor and his closest advisors groom the Imperial Inquisition into shape, from Custodes of note and valor, to Astartes whose unwavering loyalty to the Emperor and Mankind transcended the whims of their gene-sires, to even mortals whose deeds and skill made them more than a match for their Astartes comrades
>>54891224Once he gets put onto the throne like the good Omniscient corpse that he is, this Inquistion is actually able to stay together, having weathered the death of Malcador, and being around along enough to have a clear power structure and clear organization. The Inquisition of this AU is twice as organized, and thrice as effective, sometimes they even get to be undeniable good guys.They do organize themselves into different camps with grad plans that transcend Orders, however. Some try and get Big E up and running again, this time doesnt sound like a crackpot plan, since he was actually able to bounce back once. Others work on killing chaos, all Xenos, triggering the psychic evolution of mankind, etc. Big goals that Inquisitors from across the organization can attach themselves to and support.
>>54889223I get where this is going, but when you actually say it out loud, and remember that it's all to bend reality enough to create a 5th-ish Chaos God?Even by 40k standards it starts to sound like really snowflakey fanwank of the worst order.
>>54891224>>54891453This is a lot to consider. I'll have to think on it.
>>54891759I admit I find the idea a bit bloated when spelt out like >>54889223. It's tying a lot of ends together that don't necessarily need tying up, I guess?I have maybe a proposal. According to the Liber Chaotica, an important line to me was that people could potentially create a new warp entity by committing ritual suicide, gathering in a coven and attuning themselves to a state of mind and then taking that residual attunement into the afterlife to spawn a new daemon.A concept I had running in my head for a while is a remote Men of Iron or even Men of Stone arch stranding somewhere, the ships A.I. becoming something of a queen bee in her cybernetic hive.What if there were actual human settlers caught in stasis on that ship, and the A.I. had somehow begun to research deeper into the psychic potential of Humans and the Warp? Said A.I. could have systematically bred and sacrificed humans in several waves, slowly but steadily feeding a warp entity attuned to digital space by somehow having the humans constantly dream in binary (or hexadecimal, your pick) patterns. As soon as that Hashut was sufficiently established as an unconscious but stable warp entity, the ship A.I. uploaded itself into humans, overwriting their conscious with its own memories and personality, then killing itself so it may be absorbed into "Hashut" and finally give it conscious, thus creating the "Machine Anti-Christ" in a sense. The Forge Lords come across the remains of that ship as it has become a focal point in realspace for Hashut, and by downloading the ship's blackbox for research do they bring Hashut with them where it reveals itself to Mot in secrecy, opening random comm channels and appearing in visual artifacts on screens and shit so he helps it finally becoming a player in the Great Game.Maybe in order to have this tie better into current lore, have the men of iron ship receive a "soul" as it accidentally entered the Warp without Gellar-field protection.
>>54891759What, a character arc is wanky to you? We need to come to common ground with what is wanky to you, since you're all over the place in that respect. You should come into voice chat some day and I can explain out my rationale for opposing you're ideas with the Nids.>>54892072This...seems a little more convoluted than an ultra ambitious Bloodthirster that always manages to escape the repercussions of his dick moves by being a cheeky little shit
>>54892270I'm just wildly pulling shit out me butthole and my only argument for this is I really like the notion that you have to actually "die" first before your soul/emotions really affect the Warp as opposed to "oh boy you were just really angry when you hit your little toe you're feeding Khorne he just ate a planet lol"
>>54891843It is indeed. But I felt that it was an idea with a moderate amount of value in it, and that sharing it may bear fruit
>>54892325I've never considered that, and that really does make Chaos a little more reasonable.>Well this fucker's dead, was he mostly angry, horny, depressed, or confused? Oh, what a balanced individual, Chaos Undivided you go.But I like the idea of Hashut being a self made Major Warp entity, really feeds into his themes of greed and ambition. And since he's not a true god, he doesn't have an emotional input, but rather is paid direct tribute in the form of souls and the like
>>54892270Well, let me be a little more explicit then.>>54889223>Khornate Daemon, a Greater daemon no less, ever attempting sorcery.Come on now, that's like the color white deciding to turn black. It's antithetical to everything they are. >Daemon fusing itself with AIConvenient. And also extremely high-power level. How many such things were ever existing in canon? They're alluded to, but always heavily locked away. This one isn't. >Steals power from EldarSo now we've gone full Ichigo from Bleach, because it's not enough to be a Shinigami, we also have to be a Hollow *and* a Quincy all at once. Can't just be X, gotta be Half-X, Half-Y, Half-Z, with kitsune tail, rainbow eyes, and a special ancestry. "*My* Daemon can have sorcery even though the others of his kind don't. (Drizzt)". "*My* Daemon has Dark Age AI toys." "*My* Daemon also got to steal power from the Eldar". Might as well say it was a *Necron* AI to keep the fun train fueled, yeah? Maybe Hashut's actually part of a C'tan Shard? That is why it sounds like the sort of fanfic one would not want to emulate.
>>54892474>>Khornate Daemon, a Greater daemon no less, ever attempting sorcery.It's the canon explanation for Hashut in Fantasy. He got kicked out by Khorne and then taught the chaos dwarfs sorcery.
>>54892596If we're just copy-pastaing WHFB then just do that wholesale and honestly and be done with it. It will at least be simpler, and I can support that.
>>54892474By comparison Emil, what do you think of Hashut being a corrupted construct of Vaul? Less a Materium AI with a warp presence and more a Warp AI with a Materium presence.
>>54892658I'll have to think about it, because Vaul isn't a lore item I know much about, but it sounds better than making a power-creep buffet at least on the surface.
>MFW nobody likes your A.I. conscious plotting to upload itself into the Warp
>>54892474As to your first point, the level of autonomy in Daemons varies greatly per edition. We're going with Rogue Trader rules for this one. As for AI, that's one of the few enigmas that GW hasn't raped to death yet, but the few times when they've been shown they are truly eldritch horrors. We can easily get away with this one.As for your last point, well I couldn't hear you over the faggotry, as I don't watch animu, so all that was wasted on me. Besides, I'm not sure the comparison between theft and half half half nonsense stands. >>54892596Wait really? Oh. Well then I guess that's that. At the end of the day Hashut is yours. I enjoy my proposition the most, simply because it gives him character and some history, but what you say goes
>>54892795>He doesn't watch 2D tiddies bounce over the place like jell-oAnd you have the gall to call others faggot, you prancing lala homo man! I bet you have sex, like some regular person!
>>54892795Eh, the Bleach reference was just illustration. You don't have to watch anime to know that a Half-drow, half-demon, half-dragon is probably not a well-written character. And if you've spent more than 12 seconds on this board it should be a VERY easy parallel to notice here.
>>54891453I dislike it. While the Inquisition does have immense power in the 40k-verse, it's not the Shadow Council or the Illuminati or some shit. To have them an actual cohesive force with the influence they have make them not a parallel organ but an actual governing body as their influence and authority basically allow them to just take over as planetary governor at their leisure.I would agree that, since the Imperium is in a genuine 3-way war, the loyalists should definitely have a stronger sense of community, a stronger sense of common purpose, but making the Inquisition more firmly established as a bureaucratic organ seems the wrong approach.What I do like is the Emperor's foresight that, without his guidance, he would need an internal policing force and so should be involved in their creation, as well as the Emps not being a veggy on a chair up until the Siege of Terra despite being horribly injured.
>>54891453>>54891224If the Emperor's somewhat up and running, doesn't that undermine the tendency for anyone to go Separatist? Surely he wouldn't be kept SO in the dark that not even the other Primarchs know he's still alive? What would be the point of that, unless he already knows some are going to betray him? Hiding that the Emperor's still alive means accepting that after Ullanor they could have done something to dampen that terrible morale blow, but chose not to, as opposed to simply being unable to avoid it as we have it written now. For example, if Emil knows the Emperor's alive and functional-ish (And he would know, he's not going to miss spotting the Emperor's psychic wake in the Warp), he's never, ever, ever going to turn Separatist. Only the Emperor's (de facto) true death and the poisoning of everything the Imperium was founded on shakes his core hard enough that Emil's willing to listen to the Seps' agenda. And even then, Emil tries one more time to make contact, risking his entire Legion just to try and learn for sure whether or not the Emperor's still around. If he could have gotten even a glimmer of awareness or recognition from the Emperor, Emil would simply have brought his Legion to Terra, had a nice chat with Constantin, and struck out to help close the Eye with his brothers, hoping that he could help purge the religious cancer later when things settle down.
>>54893466Very good point. Hadn't even considered that.
>>54893466I assume it's back to "how up and running are talking".I will say I always thought the Emps was comatose or at least delirious after Ullanor. He was able to communicate, but was only awake mere hours at best, and even then his perception would be all over the place.This would of course interfere with his ability to continue tinkering on the human webway, and make his participation in the formation of the Inquisition very, very superficial.
>>54893596My impression had been that Big E was donezo post-Ullanor, Golden Throne, no talky-talky, all that jazz. Which is what gives Malcador the opportunity to take the larger role we've given him, which contributes to setting up the three-way split, which is the entire reason this AU is even an AU, lol. I know I'm simplifying things, but I don't think it's a good idea to dig all the way to the root of our project and start toying with it at this late stage.
>>54893666I was under this impression as well.
>>54893466Did you willfully ignore or simply skip over the part where I said he would keep that a secret? >>54891224>However after seeing Deshain more or less stab him in the back, only a select few Custodes and the Sigilite know of his state, all the Primarchs kept in the dark, the Emperor moving pieces against those he doesn't trust from afar. It's actually the arrival of Chaos that takes him by surprise.Bam, right there.Or the part where he gets better over time, going from Throne-Lich to Old Man with a Giant Chair Shaped Oxygen Tank. By the time he's more or less functional, things have gone so far to shit that its better to let things play out than reappear and sow even greater mistrust. At this point we would take from modern Retard Emperor and have him focus on things that would preserve the Imperium until he is 100%As to your other points, the Emperor has done dumber shit, and to the "Psychic Waves" nonsense, you think its possible to damage the Hive Mind itself, so I doubt your grasp on the metaphysics of Warhammer, such as they are
>>54893666>>54893716Well alright then, papa emps stays sedated, slowly processing the butthurt after getting anally ravaged by Thundakokk
>>54893796Quite a decisive vote, is it "Fuck me" or "Fuck the rest of the group"?
>>54893805It's "Elephantfag doesn't undertstand netiquette"
>>54893805You might wanna slow it down there a little bit, pardner. >>54893787I am disputing that it could be kept a secret, and disagree with the premise of your earlier statement, yes.
>>54894167Then we have nothing to discuss.
>>54894277Well aren't you salty. Ok then.
>>54894353Look, Emil, man. I hate to keep harping on this, put please join the Discord. I think some closer interaction may really help in situations like these.
>>54894732I have no need to let people who are irritated with me unload at the speed of talking rather than texting. Kinkaid's already decided I don't know what I'm talking about because he's triggered about Tyranids, so I'm just gonna let things sit for now and go do something more productive for a few days maybe. Eclipse is coming up, I should be prepping for that anyway.
>>54894782Discord is literally easier at discussing things and smoothing tensions.I'm more irritated that you won't join the conversation in full than I am with any disagreements over fluff. Its become clear to me that my ability to chip in is severely limited, so if your concern is that the Discord is a moshpit of reeeing, well its never been that. but I can promise you it will continue to not be so.Just come in man, let us envelope you in community and dank server memes
Even though the Primarchs would play a larger part in this AU, how can we boost mortal visibility?
Working on something:Enchen stood on the embarkation deck, shivering slightly in the cold. He was merely human, an equerry to Earthsinger Atahualpa of the Golden Mountains Legion, and while his master had prepared him for arrival on the Dusk Phantom’s cruiser, Atahualpla had only thought of the things that an Astartes could think of or could worry about. Astartes knew nothing of fear, for example. And really, Enchen knew there was nothing to fear. Even so, the reputation of the XVth was not a welcoming one. Tales had circulated for years of astartes lobotomized for discipline infractions, hunter-killer cadres working in tandem with Mechanicum abominations most civilized legions refused even to acknowledge, worlds left burned.Even the facts were not reassuring, the best known of their campaign being the notorious Praal compliance, the lurid details of which were preserved in the novel “The Night Watch”, a memoir of sorts about the madness and suicides amongst a terrified Remembrancer contingent in the face of the alien and the campaign against it.No, Enchen was not happy about this assignment and though he had hoped it would not be as bad as he was expecting, the embarkation deck alone sent his hopes plummeting.It was cold, colder than the average ship. This was normal, he was told. The Dusk Phantoms believed that the cold enhanced one’s awareness. Their homeworld, too, he was told, was cold, or at least mountainous. Still, it felt more like a tomb.
>>54896612The deck itself was elegantly designed, with room for five stormbirds to be stored, the space partitioned with ebony lattice works. Auto-reliquaries and mantra-wheels were positioned so as to directly honor and interface each craft’s machine spirit, the air tinged with incense smoke and ozone. Mechanical voices droned mantras in precise monosyllables, accompanied by the tap of a baud-counter. NA TOCK MO TOCK WIN TOCK DOS TOCK NIN TOCK TEH TOCK PHA TOCK VO TOCK and then the thunder of a bell or gong hidden in the workings of the machine as the mantra wheel advanced one repetition. Discordant voices chanting NA-MO-PRUS-KRE-NGAV -DE-THE then a thunderous CLANG that shook Enchen to his bones. And over it, interweaving with it, a slow drone of deep tones broadcasting in machine cant, making chords that made Enchen’s skin crawl.This too, they said, improved awareness, not to mention honoring the Omnissiah Nature, but the odd horns droning only made Enchen aware of the fact that he was uncomfortable.The statuary didn’t help either. The largest was displayed directly opposite the void-doors. It was a massive multi-armed monstrous man, standing on a dismembered corpse, the beast wearing garlands of skulls, snarling face dripping blood from fangs. It had a number of arms, each with a different implement, bells, clawed scepters, skulls, blades, gruesome daggers.
>>54896619Against the other walls stood statues of, snarling, heavily stylized astartes in poses drawn from hand-to-hand fighting manuals, hideously transformed by the addition of fangs and long, sharp talons.The firey third eyes of the statues glittered with a crystalline sheen that sat in some uncomfortable space between the human and mechanical. The mantra wheels ticked another cycle forwards and with a sudden and silent motion, the statues changed position, arms sliding, hands making new gestures, gazes now focused, it felt, on him.He realized they were part of the mantra cycle, probably shifting through poses as the mantra wheels ticked off their eternal cycle.The workmanship was incredible, each statue looked as still and immobile as it had before the movement, and yet the statues were likely fully articulated.He looked for any indication of the Dusk Phantoms, but saw nothing. This Atahualpa had prepared him for as well. The Dusk Phantoms allowed their guests time before the reception, supposedly to allow them time to compose themselves for the meeting. It was some sort of courtesy to the guest, but Enchen could not shake the feeling he was being watched.
>>54898921The workmanship was incredible, each statue looked as still and immobile as it had before the movement, and yet the statues were likely fully articulated, still until moments of sudden motion.He looked closer. No, they were slowly moving, subtly shifting weight, rotating, reading for the next burst. It reminded him of snakes.He looked for any indication of the Dusk Phantoms, but saw nothing. This Atahualpa had prepared him for as well. The Dusk Phantoms allowed their guests time before the reception, supposedly to allow them time to compose themselves for the meeting. It was some sort of courtesy to the guest, but Enchen could not shake the feeling he was being watched.And the way the room was laid out! There was no way to stand, no way to look that all the statues were in his field of sight, that there was a composed view. The panels that partitioned the hangar space formed blocks of color that stood at the corners of his vision, always drawing the eye from any single gaze. Even staring at a single statue, he could feel the others pricking at the corner of his vision, drawing the eye.
>>54899061For his part, Atahualpa stood uncomfortably in his gold plate, though he concealed it from the mortals and his battle brothers. Though he understood that an honor was being done to them in being allowed to collect their thoughts, he did not understand what he was seeing. The glacial motions of the statues punctuated by their sudden action set his battle reflexes on edge. He could feel the battle stims coursing through his blood, making his cheeks burn in the cold air. It burned down into his lungs as his pulse quickened in those moments.The rest of the time, their slow motions set him into a hyper-observant state, conditioned by his knowledge that they would, at some, unpredicable (so far as he knew) point. Subconciously, he was preparing for an attack that he conciously knew would never come. He fought down his battle-mind and tried to focus on his mission here, trying to shut out the atonal droning and tocks and bells, but the combination of scent, sound, and sight, pulled him into this moment with a firey awareness of the now.What sort of welcome was this?Though Enchen could not possibly detect it, Atahualpa noted that the mantra ticks were of slightly differing lengths, interfering with his internal sense of time. Barehelmed and thus without his plate’s chrono, he found, disconcertingly, that he was losing track of time. Different mantras cycled, different tones taking prominence in a complex pattern that defied Atahualpa’s grasp. Still, he waited. Duty demanded it, and duty he would do.
>>54899075And now I'm going to bed. Hopefully that's not total shit and kind of gives some insight into just how the Dusk Phantoms roll. As I'll get to later, they really are trying to be polite doing the welcome like this and it's an honor. The ship in question which I ought to name was chosen in part because it has such a nice embarkation deck.(So you can imagine what the area outside Gyahdred's reception chamber is like.)I think Atahualpa's response gives just what the Dusk Phantoms are going for in it, but if it doesn't there'll be more. Anything that's just crazy, let me know. This is sort of an attempt to deal with them in universe and work out just what these guys feel like and are about, so C&C is appreciated. I'll put it up in the discord after this thread, I think. Or something like that.To clarify, though, since I changed my mind as I was writing, the statues are all moving, very, very slowly, most of the time. At points in the mantra cycle, (when the cycle ends/begins) they move suddenly to assume new positions. They also all have three eyes, ala IRL tibetan herukas etc etc.
Silver Blades daily schedule:>0600: "Diana". Everybody wakes up, a guy plays "Toque de Diana" to bother even the Legion's serfs>0615: The company gets in formation in the Batallion's courtyard.>0630: Breakfast. Usually, Astartes-sized cups of coffee are provided, along a toast and a piece of fruit.>0700: Morning cardio. The company runs/marches and then proceeds to abs and push-ups.>0815: Morning firing rites. Sometimes, this includes hunting the eventual orks of Kadir.>1115: Wargear maintenance.>1145: Tactical lessons.>1300: More fire training, this time with heavy/special weapons>1445: Main meal. >1530: Little nap at the chambers>1600: Strategical lessons>1800: Military exercises, usually along the PDFs. Sometimes, is done in a BLUFOR/OPFOR format.>2140: Putting on the off-duty robes, personal hygien time.>2200: Dinner>2230: Guard rotation/Free time>2400: Lights out, sleeping time
>>54899671>2400You mean 0000?
>>54899126Shit dude this was an awesome read. Always great to see a big piece like this with so much attention given. Love the moving statues.
Quick summary on Kadir's defenses:>A Chapter-sized Astartes PDF as permanent garrison>2/3 Chapter-Sized training groups (basically, to-be Marines in training)>2 regiments of human PDFs>4 company-sized Astartes cavalry groups>A ring of 5 major orbital defense stations with guns able to OHK a Cruiser, supported by several minor weapons platforms. All of these able to acquire targets in the planet's surface>A defense fleet, mainly composed by escort-sized vessels, with several Cruisers and a Grand Cruiser.
>>54900868Also>One of the moons is garrisoned by a company-sized group, and the moon itself is a gigantic defense platform>Several missile silos and gun batteries scattered in the planet's surface for more anti-ship defense>The Fortress is void-shielded and has several point-defense systems
>>54894782Discord is far more chilled man. Just give it a shot, you're really not making some sort of grand statement here. You getting on Discord and talking to us more directly will be far more productive than us asking you for the bajillionth time.>>54896375If you mean "how are we going bring in non-Astartes", that kinda happens naturally post-Brotherwar. The Legions are split, numbers already greatly reduced due to all the casualties, and the new chapters are often placed near the Separatist border.The Imperium's biggest asset actually is the mortal human factions, like the Sisters of Battle, Imperial Guard, Inquisition and Mechanicus.>>54899126Really neat! I like the way you write your stories, they're very entertaining to read out loud.>>54893787I find it completely unbelievable that the Emperor would choose to keep his state a secret, somehow. Lemme go over the many issues this would cause:>Raj returns to Terra with the Emperor after his internment. Did Raj just drop him off on the doormat and then not come back to look at him during all the time he was reinforcing Terra?>Once its time for the Summit of New Hope and Raj hands over Terra's defenses to Kinnévail, don't you think Kinnévail would go to check up on Big E?>Why would the Emperor decide not to reveal his continued activity by the time the Separatists start acting up? A single word from him saying that he sides with either of the two factions would end the Brotherwar immediately.And then there's still the question of why we'd want to do this in the first place. The Emperor needs to go down and be out of the story after Ullanor, that's the entire foundation of /w3/. We don't need some Super Inquisition-Administratum either. Kickstarting the Ecclesiarchy is more than enough to cement the Imperium's position.
>>54902021The Inquisition is an interesting beast. A lot of its origins have things linked to canon events, which may not be present here, so that needs to be worked out.That said, the Emperor, I think, largely doesn't need to be any more active than in canon post his blow. The easy way would be to have it be something akin to the beast, or turn the warboss that struck him down into something like a weirdboy-boss that used psychic power to strike too.
>>54902156No harm in exploring the origins of the Inquisition, or how the Emperor goes down.
PROMPT:What kinds of nicknames does your primarch/legion have for their brothers/other legions?
>>54902180Valorn often refers to Zelbezis as "Little Brother". There's no fondness in that nickname. The focus is the "Little" not the "Brother"
>>54902180Linares often calls the Warmasters "Boss", ironically mainly; Raj is "Walking Turban" or "Skyscraper", refering in the last one to his Titan; Lambach is "Little brother" since they first met; and Pacha is "Golden Ball".
>>54902175Oh, of course not. Both should be. But I think that folks have the right of it in saying the Emps should be down and out.
>>54903171Oh, on that note, keep in mind the Emperor technically CAN communicate even in his state on the Golden Throne, it's just difficult. After all, Guilieman was able speak with him, and before that we had the Brides of the Emperor (the proto-SoB) leader taken in front of him too.
>>54902180Raj is 'the Titan,' and Einchurt is 'the Skull.' Most of his nicknames follow this pattern. Single word descriptors.
>>54902180Raj doesn't really do nicknames, especially not in regards to his brothers.
>>54902548I should note that Valorn only gives nicknames to those he does not like. So, Linares is "A Mighty Irritant" Mot is "The Boy" and Kincaid is "Father's Little Error" or "The FLE"
Behold, Linares, the Lord of Ale
>>54905421Take that back.Have Kinnévail pre burns
>>54905715>>54905731>>54905719I honestly like post-burn a lot more.I just personally don't think he's as handsome a dude as Linares or Valorn. What do you guys think before I pay for the Hi-Res version?
>>54905761>ValornI meant Zelbyzis
>>54905421Ah, I like that nickname.>>54905715Even better than I initially expected.>>54905761Does Lin looks that handsome?
>>54905761>>54905778I think they look pretty awesome. Kincaid is a different kind of handsome to Linares or Zelbezis. He's more boyish, which contrasts nicely with the scared figure he becomes.
>>54905942Y E S. He's the most interesting man in the world.>>54905953Awesome, well I'm glad you guys are happy with them
>>54905715>I don't always kill traitors, but when I do, it's with a bolter.
>>54905421>"Father's Little Error"kek>>54905715MANLY/10>>54905731Burned Kincaid looks metal as hell.
>>54905421I read that as "The 'Flugh!'"
>>54806025Quick note, renaming 1st Lieutenant Rimac to 1st Lieutenant Camac, which, at the cost of the topographical reference, gives a better meaning association; and also because I have plans for a faction of traitor GMs for which the name Rimac would fit their leader quite handily.
>>54905715Sexy. The most interesting man in the Imperium.>>54905719>>54905731Both quite nice. I'll get on that for Gyahdred.>On Karma and Status in StovokorI'm thinking the Magi of Stovokor clone their middle managers, designing them to handle their task as part of the machine. They're NCOs, the guys who manage your power grid, oversee the plant.The magi are selected from promising members of the peasantry, but most peasants are stuck as interchangable cogs in the machine. They turn the dharma gear. (I think that's a metaphor they'd use.)So on a ship, the bridge officers are all natural born and augmented, the heads of the gunnery teams and the like are all pod born vorta, and the gunnery teams themselves are peasants.Suicide is not taboo for the peasants. If they think they have accumulated enough merit for a better reincarnation, then they are free to go try it, after all, a servitor made from their corpse will do the job just as well 9 times out of 10. In practice, this is rare, since death on duty will detract from your karmic store and cause a worse rebirth. However, for peasants who get permission, they often are put into martyrdom battalions, where their deaths will accumulate merit for their next rebirth.In battle, they are used for forlorn hope operation, distractions, and last stand operations.
>>54905719I think he spelt your name wrong in this one man!Burned Prophet looks sweet.
>>54905731>>54905719Damn, those are pretty sweet. >>54902021Not trying to make a grand statement. Voice chat is just ripples in the air, it gets garbled, interrupted and forgotten. People start meming and getting sidetracked by stupid shit. Real life interferes, but unlike here on 4chan where we can all go play Halo or something while JimBob has to put out the kitchen fire his grandma started, on voice chat we all get to wait for 3 hours while people may or may not bother to show up.I cannot be bothered to waste my time sitting on Discord while people with schedules that may be radically different from my own get their shit together, and I also won't be the guy who likewise makes demands that *my* schedule be met by others. Someone wants to make a post at 3 am? Sweet, I'll read it in the morning, think it over, and make a legit response. Someone won't be free till 3 am to voice chat because they're in Britain or Somalia or North Korea or something? Tough shit, I'm in bed. If my input was required it won't be available. Also, I guarantee I won't remember anything that's said there within 48 hours because that's just personally how I am. My limited memory space goes to remembering things having to do with work and family, and will not be spared for 4channers. Been there, done that, wasted months of my life, listened to other people's hideously cringeworthy voices, inflicted my equally cringeworthy Southern drawl on others, got the whole t-shirt collection, lol. If it's worth saying, it's worth writing down. Period. How do you think I've written 70 something pages for this project already? I daydream, I have ideas, and I *write them down* before they drift away.Nothing gets done until it gets *written*, this is rule number 1 of 4chan. That's all. And none of this is a personal dig at anyone who likes voice chat. If it works for you that's great. It does not work for me. But since it keeps coming up I wanted to put this to rest once and for all.
>>54905715He looks awesome. Certainly though he looks like the kind of guy who would never have said "dude" in his entire life haha.
>>54909015Hey man, I've said in the discord channel that if you don't want to use it then it is your choice and no one should force you. Truth is you are more active than half the people in it. But I think you might be a little confused to exactly how it works. I've never once been awake to join an actual voice chat part of it because I am in Australia but I still find it a useful tool. The ability to instant msg the people on it is why I use it. Not for the actual talking. It allows you to quickly bounce ideas back and fourth and then when something concrete comes through it is added to the thread.It was where we worked out the details of New Hope, the siege of Terra, Ullanor and lots of other smaller bits.And if you don't want to actually talk then that's fine. None of the guys have heard my voice at all yet!Again though if you don't want to use it I'm fine with that, but I think you're missing out is all mate.
>>54909015But it's not the voice chat that matters, Emil. We hardly ever use it. We type and use the chat, and we still record whatever we need to. We don't want to abandon the thread either.You are literally the only one of us that doesn't use it, and that stops us from having more in-depth chats about the Separatists or the Steel Souls.You're free to do whatever you want, but pretty much everyone I've heard about it would really appreciate you popping in and chatting with us. No voice, just chat. I respect your writing skills and your dedication, but a LOT of /w3/ happens on Discord, whether you like that or not, and you can't change that. So please stop choosing to only be part of half of it, and join us.
>>54909218>>54909240Well, I'll think about it. I just don't see splitting our attention and effort between the threads and the voice chat as a good idea, not when these threads also grind forward extremely slowly as it is.
>>54910272Nothing is going to change in the way we use the thread or the Discord, whether you decide to join us or not. In fact, I can only imagine it'll get better once we're all making use of both systems.And again, its not us ranting endlessly into the ether. Voice chat is not our method of communication; its the chat.
>>54905719What a handsome fel- >>54905731 oh jesus christ
>>54911027I suppose he kinda is. He's the son of the Imperial church's God so he fills a similar role to Jesus for them.
>>54910272We barely use voice chat. When we do it's usually me and Doc Raj just bullshitting.We'll chat something out, if it becomes too complex for text we'll talk it out, then we present it to the thread. Conversely, something will be brought up in the thread, we'll go back into chat and discuss it, then post the results
>>54899126He could smell the cocktail of anxiety and apprehension on his equerry and the other mortals in the retinue of his small band of Mountain Warlocks.In the hangar’s control room, a chime alerted Vot Ra 50090 that some of the guests were showing elevated stress levels, deviating from the greeting script prepared by protocol magi. Had Vot Ra 50090 been properly human, he might have been puzzled at the adverse reaction to the meditational aids on the deck, or perhaps even have felt something for their plight, but Vot Ra 50090 had been cloned and raised to be a flight deck overseer. The mental lives of others were a black box that interested him not in the least. Nor did anything beyond his area of hyper-focus-- flight deck operations. That it was a situation that deviated from parameters attracted his notice, but the nature was beyond his scope. Beyond its impact on his flight deck, the situation did not interest him in the slightest. He passed the irregularity along to his superiors, Magi and Astartes, and refocused his attention on maintenance and optimization procedures, interfacing with the Golden Mountain’s Stormbird. The process interested him immensely and he soon forgot about the people in the hangar and their odd reaction. It was not his concern.It was, however, the concern of Gyatso and half a dozen other serfs as they near ran to keep up with Lord Basho, one of the Librarians assigned to interface with the Mountain Warlock contingent sent by The Earthquake Pacha at the request of The Ghoul King. The Mountains were responding poorly to their welcome and instead of being able to reflect and appreciate the moment and the place, they seemed quite uncomfortable. Gyatso couldn’t fathom what this portended.
>>54915738Basho hurried, hardly noticing the serfs, his saffron robes billowing. That the mortals the Mountains had brought were uncomfortable was interesting, but more a curiosity. That the Mountain Warlocks had not meditated as expected suggested something far more vital. Did this mean that their meditation strategies and trance states were fundamentally unlike those of the Dusk Phantoms? Why had Atahualpa not taken the awareness of himself and the moment to become one with it and expand his consciousness? Did this mean that the Mountain Warlocks saw themselves as differentiated from the karmic engine? Did they believe in a personal dharmic nature?Assumptions of the Omnissiah Nature were so fundamental to the ways of Stovokor that they were naturally transferred to warpcraft. Even the generation versed only in the lore of the Terrawatt Clan had focussed on the transmutation of Motive Force. That the Mountains resisted suggested that they held to a this-ness fundamentally alien to the entire Dusk Phantoms’ way of thinking.Needless to say, Basho was ecstatic.
>>54915748Not quite sure where to go from here-- Don't really have a plot in mind. I may switch over to a similar sort of piece which deals with other aspects featuring Distant Thunder and the Erlkonig himself.If anyone has an idea, let me know. I'd like to do some stuff with the differences between the Dusk Phantom's way of thinking and the Mountains (in part because the Mountains are so damn nice), but for that I'd need to know a lot more about how the Mountains see the universe.An easy scenario, I suppose, might be something to do with a planetary population that they're called in to deal with en route to a study monastery to work on the warp-craft problems the Phantoms have been having. That would allow the differences in priorities to show up, but I want to also get at that philosophical distinction about the relationship between the individual and the universe.I also ought to dig out the Praal Campaign and finish that from a million threads ago.
>>54915833While I'm at it:>Chengis ZeamiChengis Zeami is perhaps the foremost expert on siege operations in the entire legion, excluding its primarch.Chengis is an adherent of the technomystical traditions of Stovokor and sees siegecraft as a meditative process. A fortress is a puzzle and to solve the puzzle, one must see what the architect saw in finding its strengths, but also see what they did not. One approaches the fortress as a blank and in devising the strategy to bring it down learns the fortress and the siegecraft.For Zeami each siege is a unique performance, unrepeatable. Each script is performed once, and only once. When he can, he designs his main siege guns specifically for the campaign, after which he seldom uses them again, usually gifting them to other forces. None the less, he does keep some particularly notable pieces on hand the better to explore the nature of their character by examining them in a different light.I'm thinking he's the one in command of the Terminus EstFor a bit of reference and something I'd like a bit of help with, I'm working with the idea of Japanese Noh, which, in addition to often being ghost stories about madness and obsession, are traditionally rehersed only a few times. Basically, everyone learns their lines in private and then they show up and the show evolves from there. It's related to Zen ideas of transience.So Zeami sees siege as a similar sort of performance, a play with audience participation, if you will. He scripts the siege, writes it to the fortress, and performs the play once and only once-- it can be performed only the once. (And his plays bring the house down.)So you guys could help me get that clearer in there organically, that'd be great.
>>54916084Part of why he's so good at what he does is because he does that whole bespoke thing. Which means he's always building new stuff and in studying the enemy fortification, it means he's up on all kinds of technology. He's never actually straight up built a xeno weapon, but his work often features unorthodox arrangements of Mechanicum components. He's never actually been charged with tech heresy for political reasons, but he's come close on a number of occasions.I'm thinking post heresy he actually gets put on trial and they can't make any of the charges stick because he's not actually using xeno components. (And he tends to give them away afterwards.)Anyways, it'd be something like a turbolaser array with a more coherent beam thanks to an arrangement of coils inspired by this xenos race and a focussing lense using a system inspired by another one.Means he's got top tier shit.I'll have to work him into a siege of some forges that Mot has in rebellion.He and his dudes all wear Noh style masks, simple, stylized human faces that change expression depending on the angle that you're looking at them.I really need to find an excuse to write up an audience with him, because he'd sort of stand there and speak in slow, stylized language, moving his head slightly to provide the correct expression for his grand oratory.
>>54916084>>54916150I like this Zeami guy. He sounds very much like a human siege oriented version of the eldar Harlequins, what with the whole thing being a performance.
The fight in the Eternity Gate was getting bloodier and bloodier as time went by. Marduk's forces were already trying to breach the door itself, while the combined Legions of the Golden Mountains, Titan Marchers and the scattered Silver Blades did their best to keep the Traitors at bay. The Titan Marchers had already lost their gene-sire, and were fighting with both hatred and delusion for it. The sheer number of casualties was driving them to the very edge of their psychological resistance. The Silver Blades were fighting in so many places at once, in such a desperate manner that any form of structured defense and command was all but lost. While the First Tercio engaged the enemy in the spaceport, the Second and Third fought against the Traitors at the Palace's Walls. Small groups of Astartes were cut off, and soon, the Tercios were mixed, soldiers from the Second integrated into the Third for survival and situation control. And that was only the beginning. The rush towards the Eternity Gate to defend it finished to mess with all kinds of structure of the LegionThe Golden Mountains were the most focused of the three Legions, and having fought at the Gate for hours, exhaustion started to take its toll. The Traitor weren't performing much better, as the stalwart defense of the Loyalists made gaining a single meter of ground a true achievement.The Leviathan's Host was pushing like no tomorrow to breach the Eternity Gate, thousands of Marines engaging in one of the fiercest battles that they ever lived. Marduk himself lead the attack, wreaking havoc in the Loyalists ranks.The Gunslingers were decimated by the fighting against their nemesis, the Silver Blades, and the Apocalyptican explosion, but nevertheless, they pushed forward as hard as a fresh combatant, for Raj's death had invigorated them hard.
>>54917885The Chosen of Hecate, meanwhile, were mostly covering the rear of the Traitor forces, making sure that the incoming Loyalist reinforcements couldn't reach their destination.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Marduk's forces successfully broke the Loyalists' lines, and found a nearly unobstructed path towards the Gate, and then, took defensive positions. Linares lead the attack against the enemy tarpit, trying to reach the Gate as soon as possible, as Marduk was surely breaching it, and when that happens, each second wasted fighting against his minions was a second he used to get closer to his final destination. His Father, the Emperor of Mankind.Pacha the Earthquake was similarly pushing his forces towards the Gate, like if some kind of synaptic connection existed between both Primarchs, coordinating their actions. Pacha's mace was swung from side to side, killing a handful of marines with each swing, crushing them to death. Such was the sheer brute force of the Earthquake. Linares' sword slashed and thrusted to right and left, killing single Traitors with each attack. Slower than Pacha's method, but equally effective. The Primarchs' push was nearly unstoppable for the Leviathans. They won't resist enough time to get the Gate breached. They reinforced their lines, brought Dreadnoughts and Terminators, even bombarded the Loyalists from the sky. But that wasn't enough to stop the killing machines that were the Earthquake and the Lord of Ale. Meanwhile, more and more Silver Blades were able to reach the Gate. Rhinos rushing towards the enemy lines, filled with exhausted and enraged Legionnaires from both the Silver Blades and the Titan Marchers. Thunderhawks and Stormbirds swarming the sky, launching a variety of ordnance to the enemy, dropping heavy armor and Jump Assault Marines. But those weren't the only reinforcements incoming. A Daemonic host, summoned by the Chosen of Hecate, entered realspace and marched towards the brawl.
>>54918020The Emperor, using his mighty powers, ordered some Custodes to climb the wall, so He could see through their eyes and listen through their ears. "This could easily be the end""PUSH! ¡VAMOS VAMOS VAMOS! ¡PRESIONAAAAAAD! WE HAVE TO REACH THE GATE!"Linares's voice thundered over the battlefield's noises. The Loyalist Astartes were already doing their best, what their augmented bodies could do. But even the mightiest warriors of the Imperium had a treshold, and they were close to it. Although the Golden Mountains couldn't understand half of what Linares was saying, they knew the orders he was giving. And they had Pacha near, but he was silent, no words but cries and yells.Suddenly, the Gate exploded. "GO GO GO GO, WE HAVE TO GET INSIDE, GO!""BROTHER...!""YES, LET'S GO!"Both Primarchs met and pushed together. The line couldn't resist their combined fury, and quickly fell. Marduk was already rushing through the palace, surrounded by his bodyguard and everyone that could follow him.The Custodian guard had already taken positions to repel the advance, but both the reality-bending powers of Marduk and the number of attackers made them fall back to a more advantageous position. (Cont later. If someone wants to pick it up…)
>>54918098(I have some more time)By the time Linares and Pacha got into the Palace, Marduk was already far into its labyrinthic halls. The heavy footsteps of the sprinting Primarchs resonating in every wall, every column. Every corpse.The golden hallways were filled with blood and fallen soldiers, both Leviathans and Custodes. A small group of the latter was looking for survivors between their fallen brethren, and greeted the Primarchs as they saw them. But the Lords of War hadn't time to greet them back. The Emperor was at stake. A few halls later, a group of Cataphractii Terminators popped out from behind a pillar. The ambush took Linares and Pacha by surprise, but that wasn't to stop them. Linares jumped towards a Terminator and made him crumble, while Pacha delivered a blow straight to another Terminator's chest, wrecking the armor, and presumably, the soldier inside. Linares stabbed both hearts of his Termie with the Slayer, and proceeded to cut in half the third and last one. Then, the Brothers continued with their run.As they advanced, more and more corpses filled the halls. This time, seemed that the Custodians were keeping at bay the attackers, as there wasn't a single Custodian corpse between them. They had formed in a line, Guards with swords and shields in front, spear-carrying Custodes behind. A Traitor Dreadnought layed destroyed at some distance, with Laser-damage marks in his armor. The Traitors were having a bad time there. But no sign of Marduk. (Cont later)
>>54917885>>54918020>>54918098>>54918275This is fun and, barring a couple of instances of strange phrasing, pretty good.
>>54919238What are the Doomsingers doing at the moment?
>>54919728About a third of the Doomsingers is on Terra, supporting the Custodes ever since Raj left Kinnévail in charge before New Hope.
>>54920110>>54919728One third (Chamber Valdor) is supporting the Custodes as a non-elite fighting force. At the Siege they would be the first line of defence at the Palace. The other third (Chamber Ballamüt) is serving as Chaos auxiliaThe Final third is either tangled up with Separatists or en route as the cavalry. Maybe both.Either way, Terra becomes the seat of Kinnévail's political power as Prime Ecclesiarch and a notional Lord of Terra (Astartes can't hold official office, and he doesn't want to make himself appear as a Seperatist, so he doesn't call himself as such. Mortal Ecclisiarchs in the future will do so, however) and there's no reason for him NOT to be at the siege
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>>54920384This looks exactly like the kind of guy Raj would leave in charge of the defense of Terra.
>>54921669You have to keep in mind, that even as a burned freak, he's incredibly persuasive, perhaps even more so, since charm and boyishness is tossed out.And Kincaid has done nothing to throw doubt on where his loyalties like, even if his religion perverts the truth, that means he would only fight that much harder for the Emperor and Mankind. Kinnévail loves humanity, and his father, and most of his brothers.
PROMPT: How does your Primarch receive visitors?
>>54922905Linares brings said visitor(s) to either a balcony from which you have a beautiful sight of the lands around the Alcázar, or to a chamber prepared to receive visits, with comfy sofas and a fireplace, along a practical fridge to cool drinks and food. It depends on what's the weather like, or the visitor in question. He usually orders some serfs to bring some traditional tapas for everyone, cheese, bread and beer/whine. It eases the mood, and helps to reduce the hunger of the visitor. Also, is a sign of friendly reception, and will be served even if the visitor is in diplomatic mission to deliver a declaration of war.
>>54922905Pre Immoliation, Kincaid will always try to have ale and veritable feast prepared for his visitors. Roaring fires, meat fresh off the bone, and rancorous song are all favored traditions. Subtlety is not beyond Kinnévail, and he is known to be more reserved depending on his company. Often he will serenade his guest or lead them in song, or make a sketch of the meeting to be painted later, often roping his guest into some craft, or to sign a work. These are all to dissolve boundaries between parties, forcing them to greet and be merry. For this reason Kinnévail is a better mediator than a straight diplomat.Post Immolation, he will strive to maintain a high ground in the interaction, whether by choosing a cluttered, small place so he can dominate the setting, or an abrasive, austere, open setting to imbue a level on discomfort. Every word is deliberate, every motion tailored to cow his visitor. What he can't claim through fear and subtle intimidation, he will seize by surprise through a shockingly warm display, much more in line with his old persona. The Burned Prophet is methodical and cunning, and very few individuals know his heart of hearts
>>54922905He makes sure they know he's in a position of power, usually by sitting on his throne either on his flagship or on Zharr-Hadad. This is accompanied by a show of force, be it a military parade or simply a large armed escort.
>>54902180The Steel Souls call other Legions by their names, generally. Emil himself often refers to each Legion by their original pre-naming number, for reasons that remain unclear. Equally mysteriously, sometimes he refers to his brother Primarchs in the same manner, as if they and their Legion were the same entity. >>54922905Emil receives visitors with very little pomp and circumstance, knowing that many consider himself and his powers very off-putting. Any hint of eccentricity on his part might cause issues he would just as soon not deal with, so he comports himself respectfully but calmly. What Emil doesn't tell people is that he passively observes any visitors with his mental senses, quietly synchronizing himself and his actions to theirs, in order to put the guests more at ease. The fact that this is a more refined version of gaining the upper hand via certain negotiation techniques/body language skills is of course purely coincidental.
>>54918275The Primarchs were lead to a secret, much faster passage towards the Throne Room. Marduk was only minutes away from it, there was no time to be lost. What the two brothers didn't expected was the surprise attack made by the Doomsingers to Marduk, appearing right into the enemy lines and the Traitor Warmaster. The Eternity Gate was closer to be cleared as the Doomsingers entered the fight with haste. Marduk was about to reach the Throne Room when a group of Custodes lead by the Captain General and Kincaid crossed his path, and stopped him in his rush. Marduk fought his path out of the fight, while his already scarce retinue kept the Custodians at bay, but Kincaid was able to disengage and chase Marduk. The Warmaster broke into the sacred room, and got ready to unleash his might on his Father. Linares and Pacha ran faster than they ever thought was posible, trying to reach the Traitor in time. Only a few seconds away from loosing their Father. "STOP HIM KINCAID!""CATCH HIM, BROTHER!"And Kincaid forced his body to the last muscle to reach the Warmaster. He won't make it. He had to do something. So he jumped, hoping to catch something that could stop him. He fell to the ground. His armor landing with a loud clanky sound. He got his right leg. And Marduk fell too, his weapon inches away from the Emperor of Mankind's rotting body. The other pursuing Primarchs reached them soon after, Pacha landing a blow in Marduk's chest while Linares stabbed both of his hearts with his sword. Marduk's last words aren't properly recorded. "These sons of mine...they could have done it half an hour ago."Linares helped Kincaid to stand up, and Pacha just got laid in the golden floor, beyond exhaustion. Linares could barely stand, and Kincaid was shocked because of the close call.
>>54924707The three brothers greeted their Father in several ways, hoping that he could somehow see them. Then, they left towards the Eternity Gate. Servitors were already removing the corpses scattered through the Palace. The fighting outside was fading, the Loyalists forces already hunting down the remaining Traitors in Terra. The Daemonic host was banished into the Warp again, and the scattered members of the Legions were reuniting again. The Silver Blades' Apothecaries worked incessantly to recover as much Gene-Seed as possible. Field hospitals were assembled, and the Medical Rhinos started to wander around the battlefield, picking up the injured soldiers. Linares found his retinue and staff around Je'She, who was giving the proper orders to finish the job as soon as possible. The four Primarchs met, and enjoyed the first moments of peace of the whole Siege.
>>54917885>>54918020>>54918098>>54918275>>54924707>>54924928Aaand it's done. Enjoy the reading and feel free to comment.
>>54924985I think it's pretty decent man.The only thing I'd change personally, is to give Marduk a bit more of a fight scene. Perhaps have Kincaid trip him like you saod and then the 2 have a brief fight. Marduk would win seriously wounding Kincaid but before he can finish him Pacha and Linares arrive and then both start to duel him. Marduk realises he can't beat back both of them and keeps trying to break past them to land a final blow but both Pacha and Linares keep manageing to defend Big E.I like what you've got I just feel Marduk deserves 1 big final cool fight scene before he goes down.
>>54925468Truly. And these hours my mind is already tired, so didn't thought about it. Someone could write it, maybe Mardukanon or Kincaidanon as they would be the involved Primarchs
>>54924985I think we should stick to the original plan for Marduk's death. There's a long, exhausting melee, the wounds accumulating on Marduk, and as he approaches Emps' body with the last of his strength to finish him, Pacha and Linares crawl from behind and grab one leg each, Marduk bleeding out mere inches away from being within reach of the Emperor.
>>54925503I think this is a good story for us to get together on and flesh out. Marduk's end should be a powerful finish to the Siege of Terra.
>>54926931Yep, he definitely has a decent skelton for the story. Now if we all wirk through it we can add some touches to it make it really stand out.
>>54896612>>54896619>>54898921>>54899061>>54899075Keep working on it man. I'm really getting into it. You have a really engaging style of writing.>>54899671Classic>>54902180Je'She does not usually have nicknames for his brothers. If he does, he says so in private.He does in particular call Kincaid the 'fanatic', and Deshain the 'child'. Never in public though, for that would be undiplomatic. >>54905715That's really cool. I never really knew what to picture Linares as, but now we have a pic it fits the feel of him perfectly>>54905719>>54905731I love this. It honestly just looks so cool>>54917885>>54918020>>54918098>>54918275>>54924707Looks good man. Was a really enjoyable read
>>54916084>>54916150I see your card and place my own in attack>Abrahim Ah-Sheikh, VIth Warhost Khafir:Hailing from a legion famed for its stalwart defenses, Abrahim is a master craftsman of defending any kind of position. From space hulk chokepoints to entire cities under siege, Abrahim’s countless honours and military commendations tell a tale of many an impregnable defense. However, upon meeting Abrahim in person would give a very different impression from the cold and servitor-like demeanor that a siege expert would be expected to have.Affectionately called ‘Albustani’ by his soldiers, the Harrdinese name loosely translates to, ‘The Gardener’. To Abrahim, a defending force is not some rigid set of walls and static emplacements to be some kind of rock. Rock and stone has its place in nature, but must not consume the overlaying terrain. Artillery are the trees that provide shade for the smaller things, and infantry and emplacements are the leaves and twigs that cover the ground, and while they may seem insignificant, nurture the soil for regrowth and protect the roots from frost and harm. Supply lines are the water that gives life to everything, and as such must be protected at all costs. And if water takes the path of least resistance, why not our lines of supply?Every unit has a place in Albustani’s garden.‘Nature is resilient; we can learn much from the way a tree grows in the face of adversity, and how it heals from a wound. If we take the time to simply observe, a simple garden and everything in it, can be applied to the battlefield. We need only water it.”
>>54931181Woops. Damn fat fingers. As a Rogue Trader should, with pomp and circumstance. Grand events, showy performances, and large feasts. Show off the wealth and prestige.
>>54927159I like him a lot. I think there was some talk about pitting the two against each other? With Zeami leaving the engine for Abrahim as a gift after the performance?
>>54926392>>54926931>>54926993Now everyone whose Legion is involved should write a bit about the Legion's actions during the Siege, that way we would get a big picture of what's happening there. Marduk's death is something that has to be redone, but as a skeleton I think this works. Now, get to work
>>54931790Ofc, there are Legions that need to have more weight in the overall narrative, see the Doomsingers and the Sentinels, so don't forget them (again)
Also:>La Orden del Divino (The Divine's Order)When Kincaid started the Ecclesiarchy thing, the Silver Blades avoided to mesh with it. They kept their original creed of the Man-Emperor of Mankind, refusing to accept that He was a god. But the Chaplains of the Legion, many of them with clerical roots, found in the new religious doctrine the piece that would complete their internal puzzle. These Chaplains quickly turned into a bunch of bigots who tried to spread the new Doctrine through the Legion, and with Linares' Warp Crusade, they stepped forward and got to it. They secretly created the "Orden del Divino", a Militant Order of literal warrior monks, initially formed exclusively of Chaplains of the Legion. With time, they spread their influence, mostly through the 2nd Tercio, and, when the Brotherwar finished, they already had a thousand of followers. They got a place in the Ecclesiarchy, becoming an important and powerful Order, blind followers of the new Imperial Cult.>Los Cruzados del Divino (Divine's Crusaders, Ale Crusader except not at all)With the formation of the Divine's Order, the Divine's Crusaders appeared. At first, they were just a part of the Order without distinction from it, but in the Second Founding, the Divine's Crusaders became a full chapter, the military arm of the Order. They carry the Emperor's symbols high, and adorn their black armor with multiple Eagles and Skulls. Their dedication to the God-Emperor is such, that most of their off-combat time is dedicated to praying and preparing crusades in His name. The most bloody and successful campaigns against the Heretic forces have been waged by this particular Chapter, and is usually accused of massing too many troops, as their numbers exceeded 4000 soldiers in a particular crusade, and that isn't that high for them. It's probably the biggest chapter out there, and they would have had problems with everyone if they hadn't the huge support of the Ecclesiarchy
>>54932210Probably, of all the Successors of the Silver Blades, these are the only ones that doesn't keep in touch with the rest of them. No collaboration, no meetings. They carry Linares' Gene-Seed and that's all that connects them with the other Chapters. They usually fight alongside the Sisters of Battle, too.
>>54932301They also apply the "Die for the God-Emperor or die trying" thing of the Imperial Guard. They have little-to-no Apothecaries, and Dreadnoughts are a rare sight in their armies. For them, dying in battle is honorable, and their faith in the Emperor makes them receive death even joyfully. Moreover, their companies aren't lead by a Captain, but by a Chaplain instead, and their Chapter Master is a Master of Sanctity. They don't usually have Librarians in their ranks, as their selection process usually leaves them behind, although when someone is found inside the Chapter, or one of them is needed, they are recruited and trained to serve the Emperor's will.