So, this has been going around. /a/ have been doing one, as has /v/ and /tv/. Should we do our own?
>>53450672>let's be like /v/ and /a/
>>53450733Theirs are pretty good though.
>>53450760>>53450772Shit, looking at this I seem to have misinterpreted the chartI interpreted 'deserved it' as 'deserved what score they actually got' meaning assholes who didn't suffer didn't deserve their happiness, and saints who didn't suffer would be full on 'deserved it' because they were rewarded for their behaviorleave overthinking to me
>>53450805/v/ version (WIP)
>>53450808I mean, really all you have to do is move 'That guy' over to the 5 suffering/100 deserved it section. Not a hard fix.
Well, I've started on the primarchs
>>53451117Emperor should be on 100/100. He suffers eternally, but was the most colossal of all arseholes who brought everything down upon himself.
>>53450760Crossboaders pls kill yourselves. :)
Added Erebus.Fucker deserved so much more than he got.
>>53451145Okay, where should horus go?
>>53451250YOu think emps deserved being a corpse god? That's ice cold homie
>>5345125095/95. He deserved everything he got too, but he's not quite 'eternally trapped as a living corpse in a golden coffin' suffering.
>>53451283He was an arrogant, emotionless bastard who made the primarchs and legions fully intending to purge them when he was done, killed anyone who disagreed with him and laid waste to most of the galaxy. Countless humans who disagreed with him, who refused to join him or who were buddy-buddy with Xenos were exterminated or enslaved. He deserved all that happened to him.
>>53451331I think emps should be on the same row as horus.Someone who deserved all the suffering they got is someone like Kharn or Fulgrim.
>>53451358But both are having tonnes of fun?
>>53451345Most of that stuff is pretty average for a conqueror though. Plus he had good intentions really. That should count for a bit.I haven't kept up on all the chaos dindu nuffin wankfest though so I probably have less to go on.
>>53451376Well Fulgrim got essentially replaced by the demon no?
>>53450805>The Warden and Jailbot deserving it.>AbsolutelyDisgusting.jpg
>>53451380There's also the fact that the Emperor wanted the Heresy to happen so he could get rid of all the legions, and so he set Horus up to fall.
trazyn goes somewhere in the bottom rightgiven his meme status, possible the very corneralthough this board isn't /40k/, since /v/ is clearly entirely plebian now, alpha centauri chars are a good options
>>53451331I think perty would be a 45 deserve, 75 suffering.Ferrus is 20 deserve, 90 suffer.
>>53451423Yea that's news to me. That's from the HH books I assume?I guess it makes sense when you consider what happened to the Thunder Warriors.
I feel like we need a whole separate grid for non-40k, because Rowan Darkwood is pretty much 100-100 too.
>>53451440Yeah, the BL chief editor said it.
>>53451447I'd agree with this. Make a General /tg/ one and a 40k one.
>>53451429DnD characters as well. All tabletop and RPG games. Sigmar too.
>>53450826>balrogI don't know, I can't help but think he's an accesory to Misery's crimes. I'm not even counting obedience to the crown, even though I probably could. He deserved it enough.
>>53450672All I know is I'd want Jace Beleren as far to the right as possible- he deserves SO much more suffering. Actually, Planeswalkers might wind up taking up a decent amount of space too, come to think of it.
>>53451662I can see the wanting him to suffer being almost justified, but most of the blame falls on the lore team pushing him so Goddamn hard. If it weren't for them, I'd think Jace would still be a cunt, but a almost tolerable one. I'd stick him at 35 suffering, 70-80 deserved it. That said, Elspeth is at 90 suffering, 20 deserved it- or somewhere near there. Maybe higher depending on how we feel about her abandoning people over and over each time she thought she was found out for having power- WHICH SHE SHOULD FUCKING USE.
Is this alright?
>>53452920Needs more non-40k characters. All 20 primarchs are fine though.
>>53452983There's Planeswalkers, there's Pathfinder iconics, there's couple noteworthy WoD characters, Kingdom Death is pretty ripe on suffering too.Can we claim Tomoko Kuroki on the virtue she plays not!Magic ?
>>53453018Why not? Put her in.This is for all of /tg/, so 40k will have a big part, but everything else should be represented.
>>53453018Feels tertiary at best. I mean I'm not against putting manga stuff in there, but you're referring to a one off gag from a story that has pretty much nothing to do with it.Something like Tonari no Seki-Kun or Dungeon Meshi feels more appropiate.
>>53453064Oh and of course Yu-Gi-Oh! if we're taking card games.
>>53453064>Something like Tonari no Seki-Kun or Dungeon Meshi feels more appropiate.What about Legend of Koizumi & Wizard's Soul?
>>53453093I believe those work tooFor the sake of not just having a group of random characters with no rhyme or reason (like with the /tg/ university), the chart should probably be restricted to characters that originate from traditional game or come from a story that is ABOUT a traditional game.At least as much as possible, because I doubt those conditions would allow to fill the entire thing
>>53450826>Lucas, Aleph, Tatsuya toward top left>Giygas and Pokey toward top right>BoFIV Yuna toward bottom rightChecks out to me.
Place him TG
No more than 10 suffering.Absolutely got away with everything and on his way to get away with more.He might just be our (100,0)
>>53451345>He was an arrogant, emotionless bastardMoM is not to be taken at face value, and the canonity of the HH is questionable.>who made the primarchs and legions fully intending to purge them when he was doneNot true. Even him killing the TW is not a fact, just a rumor.>killed anyone who disagreed with himfalse>laid waste to most of the galaxyOh no! As opposed to the old on.. the nec.. the eld.. OH WAIT> Countless humans who disagreed with him, who refused to join him or who were buddy-buddy with Xenos were exterminated or enslaved.Humanity needed unity in the face of chaos.
>>53452982Dorn at 50/20, Pert at 90/65, Angron at 100/15.
>>53450672>>53450760>>53450805>>53450826You guys forgot /his/ and /tv/ chartand /a/ already updated their chart
>>53453527>Jack at 65 on the deserving chartYou wot
>>53452982Vulkan should be someplace near Sanguinius, either the space below or the space next to him
>>53453544and /a/ newest chartSo, are we doing this?
>>53450805>top leftOof... dunno about the others but that is definitely accurate.
>implying /tg/ has enough recognizable characters to fill half this chart.
>>53453600We have as many good characters as anyone else. Hell yeah we should do this.
>>53453568he literally killed everyone in the future and denied their existence, he deserved it
>>53453600Are there really enough /tg/ specific characters? We'd end up being a hybrid of /a/, /v/, /co/ and /40k/, unless we included quests in which case we'd end up as cancer
>>53453603Between all the Tabletop Games and RPG settings, of course we do. We can fill 20 spots with just the 40k primarchs alone.
>>53453608Shiiiit I haven't watched the latest episode
>>53453603Only one way to know for sure.
>>53453621oh fuckSorry for the spoiler
>>53453626We already have several primarchs down, and a few suggestions for others.
>>53453611>We'd end up being a hybrid of /a/, /v/, /co/ and /40k/Yeah, we're pretty bad at these.
>>53453611No. All we have are cardgames and 40k.
>>53453689>What is DnD>What is Sigmar>What is infinity>What is Kingdom Death
>>53453661>Architectural EngineeringThat one got me good
>>53451296Horus didn't really suffer, his soul got obliterated. Nothingness is basically the best afterlife you can hope for in 40k.
>>53453544Is top right Carthage? Why did they deserve it? They just wanted to trade and expand.
>>53453600Why is spike 60 deserving
>>53453935They were on Rome's way
>>53453946He could have said "fuck it," taken the second chance life so generously handed him, and live a happy life with his fat friend and space waifu. But no, he couldn't get over it, and he couldn't give up on waifu #1 even after she died, he deserved every bit of it.
What colour would be our chart?/tv/ is yellow/a/ is blue/his/ is brown/co/ is red/v/ is whiteWould purple fit?
>>53454148>not putting (you) at 100,100
>>53452982The Emperor can see into the future so yeah I would say the hell we have in 40k is fully deserved.
Added Dwarf Fortress Dwarf, Sanguinus (do you catan), generic peasant, Chairman Yang and 2D.
>>53455900Good work anon, keep it up.
>>53455900Shouldn't "Do You Catan" be higher on deserving it?
>>53455900Suggesting Noh for somewhere on the lowest 'Deserved it"-axis.And I guess Cultist-chan should be pretty high-suffering and mid-deserving.
I'm on my phone, but somebody should place whil wheaton somewhere
>>53450805Is top left When the Wind Blows? God damn that movie fucked me up.
>>53456108Has he really suffered that much?
Added the Lamentors and Karn.
>>53453689What about Star Wars? We always have a Star Wars General running and damn near half a dozen game systems. And Shadowrun, though I don't know the lore well enough to make suggestions.>A d20 should be right on the 50/50 square>>53454069Yeah, Purple sounds good
>>53456120ah true, maybe not. but he 100% deserves everything.
>>53456152Do You Catan guy should at least be a 30 on the suffering chart--assuming it's the guy telling the story, and not the goth kid in it
>>53456168anakin would be around 60/70 I think.
Added Karl Franz, Gotrek and Felix
>>53456181It's the goth kid.
>>53454069/his/ is orangewe should be brown, i think /jp/ is doing a purple one already
>>53456168>>53456185Let's stick to /tg/ characters. Anakin is /tv/.
>>53453384>No more than 10 suffering.He quit because of a barrage of death threats.
>>53455976That would distort the scale, he just pushed his magical realm on others without warning and was sort of a twat via general gothness. Was already memeing with 20 considering 2D bombed places and you have mass murder at 95 and 100.
>>53456177So something like (100, 40)?
>>53456244Anakin shouldn't even be there.
>>53456256you know what? He's a privileged white boy who tries to pretend he's suffered more than he actually has.make it something like (100,25)
>>53456269He's a cuck raising another man's children, but (100, 25) works.
>>53455976Using /a/ chart as a reference we should hold the 80D+ scale for murderers/rapistsIdk if we should move him too much to the right
>>53456004Cultist-chan doesn'T really suffer. She mostly enjoys herself. Quarter suffering maybe.
>>53456232I think sanguinatus was a pretty swell guy
Some good mtg ones to add>urza>yawgmoth>jeska>kamahl>mishra>gerrard capshen
>>53450805Simon got a 15 on suffering? He literally lost everything and survived an apocalypse as a madman weeb that might or might not have sex with penguins.
Not a new character but my autism would allow me to let this go.Respect your borders people.
>>53456327Dude, no Garruk? He got fucked both in story and by WoTC because of that one card where he punched Lill
>>53456345Kind of pointless doing that to an older version of the grid.
>>53456168>Yeah, Purple sounds goodhow about this
How is Strahd not in the top right corner yet? Dude's the classic deserves his suffering bad guy.
>>53456349For sure dude i was just suggesting some of the older characters first. Sorrin also deserves a decent spot on this board
Where do we put:>Old Man Henderson>Los Tiburon>Sir Bearington>Ribbon>Cestree>Gazeebo>Tankred>Emprahsque>LIIVI, Taldeer and Lofn>Noh
What about Luke
>>53456094I never saw the movie, but I read the book in middle school.I entirely agree with their placement on the grid.Also bottom right.
>>53456522I listened to the iron maiden song. It's even darker somehow. The only great song off that album.
Put Perkins in the bottom left, Mercer in the bottom middle, and Orion Acaba in the top right in the 100 deserved column.Wil Wheaton in the bottom right corner.
>>53456387I copied everything over onto this to see how it looks and added a wheaton to 100,25.
>>53456582Matt Ward (50, 10)
>>53456582Gygax should go in the exact center.
Where do y'all think Drizzt "Every Other Drow PC" Do'Urden fits?
>>534566372/3 deserves it with 1/2 suffering (because TWF is shit)
>>53456582I'm glad I'm not the only one who had this impulse. I don't even mind the guy, but the joke's just there for the taking.
>>53456242Having some overlap with /tv/, /co/, /lit/, and /v/ is inevitable, though. Having several systems and even a miniature war game is plenty enough for a "purity test," what else would qualify?
>>53456582Put Kender at the bottom right, please.
>>53456678Then let's at least avoid characters that have already been covered by the other charts.
>>53456603How has Gygax suffered, or deserve to suffer?
>>53456292>he hasn't read dranons delightI envy you
>>53450760Farewell to arms= 50 suffering??
This thread is too chaotic. One person should be in charge of the chart, other people post characters with Suffering and Deserved values. With pictures. The person in charge of the chart then adds the characters.
>>53453693Starting Survivors should take the 0,100 spot.
>>53456778>>53456800You know you guys can just do it? It only needs MS paint.
>>53456763For the chart
>>53456831Hard to do when you're phoneposting.
>>53456582I'd put Cadia somewhere Top-Left.
>>53456984I'd say suffering 100, deserving 15-30. It kind of deserved it being right on the edge of Chaos controlled space.
>>53456336Autist detected >Simon>look at me I know ADVENTURE TIME lore
>>53456595>>53456603>>53456637>>53456644>>53456699>>53456984>>53457039Like this ?
>>53457262you beat me to it
>>53457273How much has D&D the property suffered?
>>53456451>OMH (30, 60)>Ribbon (35, 20)>Cestree (10, 10)
>>53457273Glissa probably deserves to be up into the 'suffering/did not deserve' category.
>>53457262Suffered: 80Deserved: 60
>>53457456Readded Karl, Gortek and Felix
>>53457499Suffered 5Deserved 80
>>53457531also added bluhd rehvens>>53457547yay!
>>53457499Maybe put That Guy at 100/50 - sometimes they suffer, sometimes they don't, but they always deserve it.
>>53450826>Jak is on thereI thought I was the only one on 4chan that remembered him.
>>53450805>wtwb top left>no plague dogs in sightThe old couple didn't do anything morally wrong, but doddering around waiting for the authorities in that situation counts as kind of asking for it even if there wasn't anything to be done.
>>53450826Surprised top right isn't Anthony Burch.
Added Ferrus Manus, Fulgrim, Angron and Girlyman.
Matt Mercer on 5 suffering and 30 deserve?
>>53458123I feel like anyone who takes steps to put themselves in danger no matter the good intent doesn't belong all the way to the far left.
Are characters from tg related books like LotR or Asoiaf relevant to this chart ?
Put this guy at 5 and 5
>>53453595>>53458123I'd plae Vulkan somewhere near or even above (switching) Sanguinius.I mean, I know Sangy is pure and based, but he only died once.
May I request Nissa Revane at 75 suffering, 95 deserved it?
>>53458351Wouldn't he be more /a/ or /v/ related?
>>53458604'ere ya go
>>53458650He runs a pretty infamous dnd game thays been going on for years and has written a capign book . Basically quiye a big name in twrms of dnd promotion to the masses
>>53458652Can i request Sorin at 90 suffering 40 deserve?
>>53457119Yes, because knowing one of the only good things in Adventure Time makes you an autist.
>>53456716Do you know anything about TSR in the 90s?
>>53458721If I had my way Sam Rigel would be in 5, 5
Paizo golem in 100, 20WotC in 50, 20
>>53450826>Asriel deserving sufferingThe only bad shit he did was after his soul was taken away.
>>53459455Nah m8 that spot belongs to ashley johnson
>>53458861Request eldar somewhere in the top right corner
>>53458861>the emperor deserving to suffer at all
>>53450826>top rightFuck, that's super on point.
>>53458861Corax should go somewhere in the top left, Id say right below Franz.And Terry Pratchett directly below Ferrus.
>>53458861+Samewise, at [30, 40]
>>53453661>Time managementChrist, there's so many good things here I can't pick what I like most
Nicol Bolas 30, 90KDM Survivors 100,60
Where my nigga Fingolfin at?Suffering: 80Deserved: 30Feanor on the other handSuffering: 80Deserved: 80Serves you right motherfucker
I honestly think we should swap Sanguinus and the lamenters, since they kinda have that thing were they go through what he did at peak suffering
>>53450805>that top right
Red ManaSuffering: 65Deserved: 25Blue manaSuffering: 10Deserved: 75
>>53456582skub should be 0S, 100D
>>53459629>>53459499'Ere you go.Doin >>53459747 >>53459880 and >>53459908
>>53450805Nox should take up two spots on opposite sides of the chartQuilby's on point thouugh, fuck that guy
>>53459982>the Emperor>at 100% deserved itI am disappointed as fuck
>>53460093He fucking did, though.
>>53460137Bullfucking shit. He should be 100 suffering 50 deserved at the worst.
Also added Martin
>>53460177It tends to get obscured by the lore being from an in universe perspective, but he genocided possibly trillions of aliens and humans, many of which were non hostile. It may have been for Humanity's benefit, but he still ordered an insane amount of pointless killing.
Needs some good L5R ones but I'm struggling to think of specific examples because I'm not an L5Rfag.
>>53460221I come in here to check it out and >Samwise Gamgee>deserving anything that happened to himI'm gonna hazard a guess that the creator of this one just hates Tolkien.
Think Bolas and survivors need to be switched
Chakats at 100D, ??S
>>53460300I don't give the slightest fuck how many beings he killed, xenos aren't people and humans who work with them/alongside them are traitors.The only "deserved" part is his dumbfuckery over creating the primarchs in the first place, and not stomping the Admech and replacing them with a less retarded technological caste
>>53460316>>53460221Yeah, i vote Samwise gets moved to 10/40. I'm sure he deserves a little suffering like anyone else.
>>53460337I also think thisIn addition, I think that the guy who originally proposed their placement didn't know how to fucking read a chart
>>53460221>Bolas>30,90Did you get mixed up there friend?
>>53460360I can get behind this. Also, we should do all the mtg colors if we are gonna do blue and red. I vote white for 35/35 or somewhere around that.
>>53460316>>53460360Yep I agree, sam dindu nuffin>>53460306You're right but I'm not very familiar with l5r either.I'd see the Crab clan somewhere on middle-left though.I'll have to go so can someone continue this?Is OP still here btw?
>>53460418As long as no one's suffering is higher than red and no one's deserved is higher than blue's
>>53460351Also fucking everything up with about half his primarchs.
>>53460443I vote we leave that one space blank. The miscolored one
>>53460418>>53460445Well, it would be pretty funny to put Black in the 60/60 range, being the color of high risk/high reward.
>>53460351In literally any perspective outside the in-universe, propaganda stuffed, Imperium the Emperor is one of the most villainous individuals out there, no question. He's a sociopathic genocidal dictator who can accept nothing outside his own narrow beliefs.The fact people wank him off just reinforces how little the setting is understood as satire. To take an example from one of 40k's major influences, you can enjoy the Judge Dredd stories, but if you think the Judges are a good idea for an IRL Justice System you're severely missing the point.
President of the "just fuck my shit up" union comin' throughSuffering: 65Deserved: 25
>>53460478We should shift red up a bit more then, It needs to have a good deal more suffering than any other color. And black should be in like, 60 deserved 40 suffering range
>>53460506Oh, wait, that's Red's spot.Deserved 30, then?
>>53460518Nah, we can shift red up one. 65 was admittedly a conservative estimate for it.Speaking of which, we should shift blue's deseved over a bit more. I just remembered they've been giving blue mana production recently
>>53460542>>53460518>>53460507there we go
>>534605975/5 should be Tom Bombadil.
>>53460597Red needs to be bumped up to 75 or higher now and black should probably be lower than 60 since it's still REALLY good. Red's just been shat on almost constantly for the last quarter century
We should put one of those really bad paintjob models in here too
>>53460641>Bombadil >Not deserving at least a 50That smug prick should be 5/55
>>53460641Better idea for 5/5Jug of Simple green
>>53460597I'm thinking Fulgrim at 85 suffering, 35 deserved.
>Evil sorcerer>Serves lords of Chaos>Eats souls>Put his archnemesis on charge of his homeland>Wiped out his whole world>Angsts about it all the time>Sickly and strung about by fate like a fucking puppetElric to 100/90?
This poor bastard somewhere near the bottom right.
>>53460783Dammit, got the axes reversed, I meant the opposite corner.
>>53460597https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Luke should be 20S, 90D
>>53460798like so>>53460760done>>53460721fulfgrim is already on>>53460716working on it
Where should he go?
>>53460783>>5346082315/75 sounds like a good spot. One slot in either direction for wiggle room if we need to move things around.
>>53460842Red still needs to be bumped upwards a bit
>>53460842Skub should also be in bottom left corner.
>>53460909>>53460874surrounding the simple green? or replacing/ moving it
SOMEONE ADD KIRBY THE FUCK
>>53460909Skub should be in both the top left and bottom right corners
>>53460933It already is in one.
>>53460924surround in the case of Duncan
>>53460924Just above the simple green
>>53460933It should be in bothSuch is the Dichotomy of Skub
>>53460967meant for >>53460944
>>53461001Malal should next to thin your paints
Suffered 90 deserved 60
>>53461001Archaon the everchosen should be on the right edge somewhere. Probably in the middleAlso /tg/ plays tic tac toe/chess somewhere on here
>>53453661>>JournalismMy sides exploded.
>>53461001Tau, 100 deserved, 20 suffering
>>53450805>dream near the top leftHe really tried at the end there man.
>>53453611We also have shadowrun, oWoD and nWoD, dnd-settings and some IRL guys.
>>53453600>x100 y90he was a good boi, he dindu nuffin
>>53461157moving Cadia where?
>>53461144Cultist-Chan on the right side of Tom Bombadil?
>>53461144Nah, Archaon Kinda blew up an entire world and apparently didn't stop at that he DESERVES a 100>>53461157I'd put him higher up since if Tome of magic is anything to go by he kinda managed to force himself into a weird place outside of existence but still kinda nearby
>>53461144>Skub not at 100, 0 and 0, 100God damnit you had one job.
>>53461178No idea. Acererak, by Tomb of Horrors/Return Of, a absolutely gigantic asshole who didn't really get fucked over by anything (outside of getting killed by adventurers and being a cambion).95 deserve might be good.
top left should be terry pratchet
>>53461178Nigger, coordinates are X then Y, Did you pass the 4th grade?
>>53461211Up is Actual suffering, right is deserved sufferingAnd, like I said, Acererak somehow managed to get forced out of existence but still kinda close by so he can fuck with things still
>>53461206Why would skub suffer? Surely it's on the zero axis.
>>53461216a) im drunkb) do it yourself then>>53461201better?>>53461265Im pretty sure not existing counts for something? Maybe move him down?
>>53450760>Griffith>deserving any suffering at all
Outsider at (10,20)Deceiver at (50,100)Nightbringer at (90,75)Void Dragon at (5,10) or something close to that>>53461144skub needs to at least be at inverse coordinates.
>>53461316Suffering 80, deserved 20 for Crimson Fists.
>>53461430>survivors deserving of a 60.those guys just wanna life and be comfymaybe a 25 because they do stupid shit sometimes
The Lamenters, suffer 100, deserve 20
>>53461544Actually do 15
Someone add Vecna, and... Maybe something from owod. Some trpgs representation.
>>53461144I request Dunkelzahn at 0\60.
May I suggest Hida Kisada for 20/90?
>>53461689Maybe I got that backwards...Suffering 20, Deserving 90
>>53450826>nameless oneGoddamn, there go my vidyafeels again.
Sisters of Battle somewhere around 75 suffering for both fluff and The poor souls who play them. Not sure how much they deserve (kinda biased there)
>>5346161460 deserved I guess ?>>53461689done
>>53461716fixed and sistas added
>>53450760>Yuuno deserving any sufferingPlease terminate yourself
Born into a world of darkness and immediately fighting for your life. Completely innocent. Stop with your 40k diddling.
>>53461791No, 0 deserved, guy would be 10\10 leader in shaowrun, but shit happened.
>>53459698>>53461737Nameless doesn't deserve suffering. Smart incarnation does though. There should probably like 5 of him in the chart
>>53461939Paranoid incarnation is a thoughtless shithead who fucks everything up for everyone, Ignus's master incarnation was a fucking sadist, and the original incarnation was who started this whole thing in the first place.He deserves it.
>>53461791Wrong one. That's his great grandson, Hida Kisada II. I was referring to the Great Bear.Bastard teamed up with the Realm of Evil, nailed his own son to a battle standard, tried to overthrow the Emperor because the rest of the Empire wasn't taking the same realm he teamed up with serious, switch sides and died 2 and a half years later from war wounds, was proclaimed a god by the new Emperor, came back to life and got all his stuff back while retaining god status. Later gets killed again by more than 2 dozen ninjas most of which he killed bare handed.
HUR HUR HUR
>>53461919Add green mana directly under red mana, and move GRRM two slots to the right
>>53461968This.The original incarnation committed a crime so grave that a hundred lifetimes of atonement could not make up for it. It's debatable if the current incarnation deserves it though, but the character as a whole was a massive negative influence on the planes.
>>53457353But Ribbon's been sent to Hell twice, been blown up and set on fire and almost had her brain sucked out, and is bullied by everyone except Cestree.I'd say she suffers quite a bit for a person who does nothing but play games all day.
>>53462059>The original incarnation committed a crime so grave that a hundred lifetimes of atonement could not make up for it.The original incarnation's sin wasn't that bad - not in the greater context, at any rate - but he overreacted like hell and thought it was a lot worse than it seemed.In other words, his great sin was pride.
>>53462075Green Mana symbol at 30/65White Mana symbol at 45/30
>>53462085Huh, I don't remember that part.In any case, the things he did to try and make up for it are terrible enough.
>>53462145We need Brisela too, high suffering, low deserved.
>>53462145Stop it, you mongs
What about that red-haired girl from Lamentations?No fucking way a game system poster girl deserves so much fucking suffering.
>>53462203Cthulhu does not suffer, nor does it deserve suffering.Cthulhu is beyond this chart. Unless you want to replace the current 0,0.
>>53462250There is no 0,0. The lowest spot on the chart is 5,5.
>>53462269Then we should place Cthulhu outside the chart.
Spoony somewhere around 90/70
>>53462134done and fixed fingolfin
>>53462226>>53462269this is correct though
>>53462348I think you messed up, Fingolfin suffered a lot and didn't deserve muchAs it stands right now he's on deserved a lot and didn't suffer much
>>53462145CGL (pic related) at 90, 5, because they're bastards who get away with ruining everything.
>>53462348Added Gav, Tarla, Wizardand readded HUR HUR HUR
>>53462392Fuck, forgot pic.
>>53462404Add Gurps to 5,55
>>53462479Lelf should go on 5,75
Ones get a lot of shit but they deserve it
>>53462410>>53462344here you goaalso added the whizzard
>>53462553Suffering 95 deserve 100 maybe
Roy from Order of the Stick falls where?
>>53462604Eh. Pretty low on both, like 30 at most.I'd be more curious about Redcloak, Miko Miyazaki, and that mechanic girl from the recent updates.
>spiritual liege only at 50
>>53462203>>53462250>>53462269>>53462324Added Cthulhu beyond the chart.
>>53462761Christ. If we're gonna just keep adding shit outside the chart why not add the blingee snoop dogg too?
What about lindybeige?Also new thread when?
>>534628105/85 fuck this guy
>>53462810Perfect for 0, 85
>>53462810New thread either when we fall off page 11 or hit image limit.
>>53462810On that note Matt is a shoe in for 10, 25. Most of his suffering is from just annoying things or having to look at horrid wounds at work.
>>53462761How about Friend Computer at 10/85?
>>53463135I don't know man the Computer despite it's good intent still has people killed constantly.
>>53462761Whoever is making this cart need to use photoshop or download gimp. Don't just past them over. Use some layers to make it look nice.
this should be saved to suptg
>>53463209Well, 10 suffering 80 deserved, wasnt as clear as I could be.
>>53463472Why do so many people not know how to use a coordinate grid? Did THAT many people fail math?
>>53450826>Halo 3 Master Chief helmet>Halo 3 is almost 10 years oldThe feels anons...
>>53451450But that's stupid. If he wanted to Horus to fall so he could kill him why did he hesitate and let himself get wounded so severely?
Needs Mark Rosewater at deserving an average amount of suffering and not getting enough.
>>53462802You missed the joke. Try harder.
>>53460760>>53460842Yeesh that's a bit harsh.Elric deserves a good 80. 90 is pushing it.
>>53464530Remember he's also responsible for inspiring Gygax to create the drow.
>>53464550This is a bad thing?
>>53455900>>53462761i feel like the dorf should take the 100/100 spot