None.The one I thought I saved was actually a fucking trap because the DM decided to subtly magical realm me and not reveal it until last minute.
>>52127276Zilch. I find it immoral. Let the princesses save themselves by their own bootstrap-equivalents.
>>52127276None. My GMs are deathly allergic to anything so cliche or low brow.
>>52127276How can I save other princesses if no one has rescued me?
None, though I wish a GM would do something like that. Forget that it's cliche, at least it's a plot beyond 'o-okay guys I guess you can wander around now and do fetch quests.'
>>52127743It's always that or it's a meatgrinder without any space for sub-optimal builds.
>>52127779Fuck me, right? I love being forced to feel challenged and maybe even inspired to create less sub-optimal builds, but there's a difference between that and 'you will die if you are not built like a demigod.'
I played a Lich who sacrificed a princess and turned her into an undead thrall that whores itself out for money while I do my own thing in my underground research tower in an evil character campaign.That count?
>>52127691The versatility of the princess rescue cliche is often underestimated. It can be used to very easily challenge the players in a variety of ways.>Possibly tracking and scouting, in case the princess' exact whereabouts are unknown, or if there is a need to gather information about her location and circumstances>Breaking & entering, in case she is being held in a fortified or otherwise simply hard-to-reach location>Fightan, in case there are guards or creatures barring the way>The princess may have some condition of which the party may or may not have been made aware of before making their rescue attempt>Escape, either covertly or forcefully>Haggling or resellingI'm sure there are lots of more twists and turns to add.
>>52127276At least 100
My players actually saved a princess but she turned out to be the dhampir daughter of the local Vampire King. They decided to return her anyway and he thanked the party, casually invited the two female members to be his 'blood wives', gave the leader a title and the right to start her own noble house before sending them on their way with a sack of gold each. It was the first quest they've ever had where nothing went terribly wrong.
>>52127898>not killing a master vampire>ignoring an XP pinata.
My party just saved a Princess and there was no twist whatsoever, because inane twists at the end of the Princess story are now more hackneyed than the original cliche.
>>52127916Don't think they were capable of such a feat.
>>52127940That's why you fight dirty.
>>52127276Well, I personally saved a girl in a princess costume from some assholes when she was on her way home from a convention. Does that count?In game? My first D&D campaign in which I wasn't the GM (because I had previously been ForeverGM), the party I was part of was sent off to rescue the kingdom's Princess from a dragon (unrelated note, but one of the other players all but gagged me when I tried to question the GM about how the hell the dragon managed to get her in the first place). I was playing the Rogue, so, unfortunately, it was the parties Cavalier who got the booty.
>>52127276None. I did save king's brother once (from the king), but that's as close as it gets.
>>52127916My players hate XP so I level them up every once in a while after they've hit a plot point or fought enough battles.
>>52127312>>52127612>>52127642>>52127743>>52127788>>52127847>>52128050Uncouth canailles and sodomites, all of you.
>>52127276The one time our party actually met a princess was saving a dragon from her.No, we did not wed the dragon afterwards.
>>52128098Fuck you buddy, I'd love to do a save-the-princess game, it's my GMs that are overly ambitious, pretentious clowns.
>>52128098Let's be clear - I'd fucking love to be a real life knight. I figure if my life goes to shit, I'm going to buy a suit of armor with the last of my savings and go around being knightly until the cops arrest me.
How would your party handle this situation? Assume the sword is really good and you don't get a replacement once you save her.
>>52128206I'm confused. Is her soul trapped in the sword? Is it powered by her death?
One. But she was a bitch, so we just dropped her off at the castle, got our reward, and split for a nicer kingdom.Thus began our gaming group's tradition of mercenary pragmatism, which served us quite well when we started playing Shadowrun.
>>52127276Two I guess, but it just sort of happened without any real intent behind it. One was in some cold sleep bunker we found while trying to dig out our basement and the other was being kept captive at a vampire's castle we ended up cleaning out after defeating the vampire just for completeness sake.
>>52128206Take the sword as your personal weapon until you find a way to disenchant it, bond with the princess so far that she falls in love with you, become king
>>52128296>go to fight the vampire>see him and the princess drinking tea and playing poker>turns out they're old childhood freinds
>>5212727623 if you count vampire heiresses
>>52128197What are they going to arrest you for, being chivalrous?
>>52128343>the vampire was a long-time friend of the family, almost since their founding>after her parents' death the vampire took the princess in to make sure she wasn't forcefully wedded to some noble who wanted her family estate>he goes out of his way to make his gloomy vampire castle less gloomy in her wing of it, and hires actual humans to take care of her instead of skeletons
>>52128206our party's front line fighter uses pole-arms, so the sword would be kept around but not used much - probably returned to the castle alongside the princesses body
>>52128165Some /u/ series about a girl who enjoys knight stuff. Not scanlated.
>>52128343>>52128384>>52128343No, she was actually kept captive and all. Just no one really bothered to look for her intentionally. She was part of some subject nation we never paid attention to. Then her kingdom showed up to invade the castle, what with the vampire lord dead after 12,000 years, while we were trying to loot his secret treasure room. It was kind of awkward to deal with when all these people show up with righteous indignation while you are stealing valuables and clearly forgot who these rebels even are. I think all we managed before then was getting one killed in a fit of rage by the vampires due to a prank.
>>52128375What's that cloth circlet on top of the helmet called? It's stylish as fuck
>>52128384Even funnier>Most of the castle is dark, gloomy, dusty, cobwebbed, etc., except for the inevitable baroque ballrooms and the like>Her wing is cartoonish vampireland with cuddly bats, skeletons, etc.>I mean, it is a vampire castle, have to keep up appearances
>>52128206>Encase barely-alive princess in preservatory crystal>Craft it into an invincible shield>Wield the pair as a legendary weapon>Get distracted by economics>Save the world>Sodomise a dragon to show it who's boss>Wonder what the hell I was doing with this plot thread
>>52128503>the skull wall decorations are cartoonish and fun>the dark tapestries have pictures of moonlit glades and other beautiful natural things instead of bloody battles>the pictures are of cheery and happy people>the fruit bats are cuddly and prone to cute squeaks
>>52128579>the blood flowing from the fountain is punch>the grimoures are full of childrens stories>she pretends to be a vampire too>the servants oblige her
>>52127276Better question: how many times has a Princess saved YOU?
>>52128620once, resolved the scenario fairly handily
>>52128616>The party sneaks through twenty miles of twisted wolf infested wilderness>The party climbs over a high stone wall with several dessicated corpses hanging from the parapets>The party sneaks through a hedgemaze filled with clacking skeleton servitors and more goddamn wolves>The party finally sneaks in through a dusty window and finds a cheery little deathday party set up, cake on the table, 'Happy 101st Deathday' banners, party favors, etc.
>>52128714>the fearsome lord of the dead is sitting at a comically small table with a paper crown on>the princess and skeletons in party hats are cheering him on as he blows the candles out>the awkward silence as he realises someone sees this>the looks of horror in his eyes
>>52128485It's called a... Fuck, I always forget!
>>52128778>laurelNah, that's made of plant. This is made of cloth.
>>52127276Nope.We are incredibly incompetent when it comes to escort missions and our operator is convinced that we go out of our way to botch jobs that require the protection of VIPs.We don't. We're just really bad at them.
>>52128973>We are incredibly incompetent when it comes to escort missionsReminds me of that Shadowrun player who fired a rocket launcher at a hijacked bus full of children.
>>52128620Twice.First the princess managed to score us a pardon for a crime we were blamed for while being mostly innocent (we did technically set fire to the manor of a noble, but it was completely the result of several really, REALLY bad rolls), in exchange for helping her uncover a conspiracy against her father.Second was when we managed to catch the conspirators red-handed and prevent regicide, but they had us cornered and surrounded. Princess showed up with the Royal Guard when it took too long for us to report back to her.
>>52127276One high elven princess, so far, but we debated killing her just so she would shut up the entire trip home.Got to the palace of her father, learned she was exiled, get dragged into a fight over the throne, killed have the court and are now running from Drow slavers that were running shit from the shadows to get a good slave haul.Fucking sucks.TLDR: don't save princesses, not worth the hassle.
I dont know if this countsMiss a session and have DM npc my character. Shenanigans ensue and my character and the princess pull a princess and pauper routine letting the princess adventure for the session.Apparently someone drugged and kidnapped me and the rest of the session was about rescuing me. Which they didnt managed to do in the one session i missed. But, i got to be the princess for half of the next session so i geuss that was nice.I think the best part was the DMs text after the session " so yea, you got date raped"
>>52129027Well, it did stop the bus. That was what was the job, wasn't it?
>>52130102I think that mitigating the loss of lives should be considered a tacit secondary objective, especially since keeping the body count low was something they wanted to do.
>>52128165Shoujo Kishidan x Knight's Tale
>>52128447It's in Spanish on Youtube.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH1qYeLuFyE
>>52127276None because my DMs hate anything that gets even remotely close to magical realm. Hell if its even within 3 miles of magical realm its a no go.
>>52127276We saved one (twice, though the second was our fault, so I'm not sure it counts) and she's bro-tier with the party. King is cool dude, too.Saved a whole kingdom, not sure if there were any princesses, but there was at least one prince.Blew up the capital of a kingdom, but it was a magocracy, so probably doesn't count.Blew up an entire other kingdom, never met the nobility. Might have a few negatives, there.Saved a guy who turned out to be a prince of the kingdom we first saved. After shenanigans (including said saving) we later learned that kingdom doesn't exist anymore, so I'm not sure if he counts either.
>>52127276Negative 4, but only because our party accidentally made a dungeon full of 7 of the little shits prematurely collapse before we ever found them.Never did find out why that evil wizard collected them in the first place; you'd think we'd have found out after rescuing three of them previously from him but nooo, had to be the stoic, non-monologuey type of evil wizard.
>>52128244All swords are powered by death.
>>52131528Nah, I'm pretty sure most swords aren't powered at all. Some might be powered by electricity or something. And I suppose you could argue that swords are typically powered by mechanical force. But really, I don't think it can be rightly said that all or even most swords are powered by death.
>>52130102The bus was about to flee into a tunnel.He could have just shot the tunnel mouth and collapsed it.
>>52127276One.She was carried away by a dragon. When we tracked the beast down it was a pseudo dragon, apparently the princess was watching her figure a little too hard and weighed fucking nothing.I ran a game where the kidnapped princess was the King who hired the parties phylactery. I allowed the players to cleanse her without killing her because of how determined they all were. She was a major recurring npc that the honorable knight wound up marrying.
>>52127276like,, maybe 5, or 6 right now. my dude
>>52129379Chihiro is too pure for this world.
None, I just started.
>>52128447>>52129797>>52130118It's a crime that this hasn't been scanslated yet, it looks like a blast so far. /u/ has all the raws I think.
>>52131528I'm like 90% certain that swords are powered by your arm.
>>52132139Do they have them posted right now?
>>52132396https://yuki.la/u/2053454google search gave me this thread, look for the mediafire links
>>52132139>>52132396You can find the scans on Twitter from the manga's page... author is a total knight-medieval armour fag
>>52128375Assault, threats of assault, wearing a mask, vagrancy, etc. There's a surprising number of things that are illegal.On the other hand, there's no sense in resisting arrest. A knight should submit to rightful authority, and when you get out of the slammer, you just put the armor on again and keep going. Jail time is just another trial on the path of knightly derring do.
>>52128375Vigilantism, more than likely. That's assuming that I don't die because modern bullets can pierce medieval plate.
>>52132614>A knight should submit to rightful authorityThe laws of GAWD are greater than the laws of man.
>>52132678It's a good thing we don't use modern bullets. We use postmodern bullets; they hurt people, not feelings. Only problem with them is ideas are bulletproof.
>>52132697>assaulting or killing defenders of the people because they inconvenience you
>>52132725They're probably protestant or antichrists anyway.
>>52132678Line the back of the plate with Kevlar.
>>52132809Kevlar only does so much.
One actually, but the quest was a one-shot homebrew adaptation of FF1 up until you fight Garland
We saved a mayor's daughter once, but she also got turned into a wererat in the process...I am working on turning myself into a princess IRL to save myself from crippling depression, if that counts.
On the topic of modern knights, just how good could we get weapons and armour with the height of modern technology? A lot of what I see people do is period-accurate recreating, and modern tooling and materials considered 'cheating', or the other extreme where people are getting sports gear to use as armour when going to riots and shit.Have there been material developments enough to significantly affect the weight and durability of plate armour and swords?
I havent save any female damsels~
>3 princess>2 prince>1 queen>1 sultana>1 doge>Lost track of how many mayorsThough some of my group have led royalty astray so I'm always trying to make up for it.
>>52132942Well...what more can you really do? You can strengthen the steel, but there's not really better materials to use. I remember there being some testing done with titanium armor, but it's too strong and flexible - it bends and blows go right through it without harming the titanium.Then again, part of the problem is those weapons are out of date - no one is working to make a better sword anymore, just one that is most like older types. If gun development had stopped in the early 19th century, I would be arguing that you can't move beyond percussion caps.
>>52127276...None, actually.Not even in games, since I never owned anything by nintendo. The closest I could have come was Jazz Jackrabbit, but that was only shareware.I've saved the duchess / my sister in MW4 Vengeance, but that's the closest to.In tabletop? I'm usually the GM, and I like to run low-level games, so players rarely run into local planetary barons and baronesses. Other folks haven't really included princesses as NPCs to be rescued since games were gender balanced. The closest there has been to a damsel in distress in any P&P I've played has been a really smarmy elven princess PC played by a not-at-all-convincing tranny.
> How many princesses have you saved?You are no saviour - your talents lie elsewhere.Thousands of innocent people died due to your decisions - sometimes, you even murdered them yourself, in cold blood! And for what? For the sake of a single woman that isn't even capable of taking care of herself.You want to feel like a knight in shining armor, a hero. You are no hero. You are nothing but a murderhobo, hiding behind the meaningless words about lofty ideals and claiming that the ends justify the means, that the suffering of a single woman is worth more than lives of thousands of innocent people.Somebody has to pay the price for your crimes. Who's it gonna be? Are you going to blame the others - blame the "cruel reality" and how you "did what you had to"? Or are you going to admit your shortcomings to yourself and stop lying to yourself, that you are a "hero" when the truth is that you are nothing but a cold-blooded murderer driven by personal reasons?Well then, do you feel like a hero yet?
>>52127276I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on dragon castle territories, and I have over 300 confirmed rescues
I saved 2. First became my wife, second was my daughter. Wouldn't have it any other way
>>52134593Your group sounds like cancer.
>>52133275well modern day steel is insanely better than medieval steel and can be forged in pretty much any shape we can dream of its seriously amazing just how better we got at making steel, even the supposedly near mythical types of the medieval era like the much famed damascus steel don't measure up to even low grade mass produced modern steel.
thousands.Its actually his job description and fetish. It's the only way he can get off other than defeating harmless villainesess. He is a prince of the most powerful kingdom in the world and a momma's boy (the queen and reigning monarch)
kind of?The princess was infected with a 'radiant' ancient parasite that is basically a doomsday device, that is why she was kidnapped in the first placethe world was destroyed later by the way. in a way it was kind of our fault; The DM almost left subtle hints here and there. What a shame
>>52127276>saving them>not capturing them yourself and selling them for ransom
>>52136235This that game 2hu was bitching about?
>>52136395Isn't that typically what "saving them" entails? I'm pretty sure there's usually an understanding, tacit or stated, that you'll be compensated for saving the princess.
>>52136458I was more referring to kidnapping them from whatever kingdom but that's also an option. Chivalry is for foolish heroes.
>>52136503You don't kidnap princesses and ransom them, that's for suckers. You rescue princesses who've been kidnapped by someone else, and then you claim the reward. It's skipping past the part where you have to work your ass off to find and abduct a princess in the first place. That's half the work cut out for you.
>>52128028>Well, I personally saved a girl in a princess costume from some assholes when she was on her way home from a convention. Does that count?and, did you fucked?>unrelated note, but one of the other players all but gagged me when I tried to question the GM about how the hell the dragon managed to get her in the first placeit was a dragon, enough explained
>>52132742>Implying Protestants didn't have knightsActually to be fair, by the time the Protestant Reformation came about, the days of chivalry and the classic age of knights were long gone and trained, professional armies of commoners were taking their place on the battlefield.The real split you should be concerned with would be, if not the many minor heresies that sprung up in Western Europe, then the great schism between the Catholic and Orthodox churches. And I might add that even the most bellicose and fanatical Catholic still acknowledged the Orthodox faith as Christian and acceptable! Hell, the Crusades were wars fought by Catholics, to defend Orthodox Christians!
>>52132614>A knight should submit to rightful authorityKnights actually were authority
>>52136628Except for that one where they sacked Constantinople.
>>52136638But you aren't a knight, you're some dude in armor screaming deus vult at the first best arabic looking person.Now, if you do manage to get knighted by the Queen beforehand...
>>52133240>dogeYou managed to find a GM who doesn't constantly pretend that medieval republics didn't exist? Neat. Any more details on that particular rescue?
>>52136719Well Constantinople were being genocidal pricks with the whole "Massacre of the Latins"
>>52136948>>52136719That was less to do with "They aren't the right kind of Christian," and more to do with, "Where's our fucking money, Alexios?""You want the other Alexios! I didn't make any deals with you!""Don't fucking care! Where. Is. Our. Money?""Here, we melted down as much gold as we could find! Please go away!""Fuck that shit, we're coming in and taking everything we can get!"Hardly chivalrous behavior and hardly motivated by religion.
>>52137031It's almost like the Crusades were more politics than religion...
>>52136758Sure, evildoers had taken control of the city, so we had to infiltrate and free the hostage doge and get him out so that he could organize an effort to retake the city. It was pretty fun as like a rescue and escape mission.
>>52137120The later ones maybe, but first to third I think were honestly religious campaigns; pilgrimages with some warring on the side. You seriously under-estimate the influence of religion on the lives of the medieval people.
We were going to save one poor princess trapped in a very tall tower, but then we realized we lived in an oligarchical theocracy. The princess and the tower then began attacking us, revealing itself to be a very high level mimic.
>>52132139>>52132488Somebody translate that shit already.
>>52132139Fuck this looks cool.
>>52127835There's a huge range in between "sub-optimal" and "deliberate metagamed brokenness"
>>52137880This manga speaks to me.
None. Never had something like that pop up in a game i was in.
>>52134734This fucking game ;__;
I murdered a queen once, does that count?
No princesses but did save a prince once. Paid us in the Adventurer currency of choice, magic items.
>>52134734I didn't mean to hurt anybody.
>>52127276But Anon I am the Princess.
>>52136638Knights didn't have the authority to mete out capital punishment. That was a right only lords had, and you can bet your ass that if you kill his peasants, his serfs, or any of his other people, he'll have you dangling from a rope within the week.This goes double for landless, lordless knight errants.Unless you're Robin of Locksley, anyway.
>>52127276I helped a young lord to do few right choices, to give few right orders and how to survive crazy shit they was involved into. Does that count?
>>52127276I've lost count.Oh, wait, you said 'saved' and not 'shaved'. Never mind, then.
>>52127276One elven princess.Generic fantasy setting on Gurps, lead to romance with my Elven ranger.She was running from her duties(Marriage), tought that was just a noblewoman, meet her by chance, killed some dirty humans that would've raped her. I was away from the party at the time.It was quite the surprise. we discovered that my character was fucking a princess when the royal guard appeared. We almost died, She turned herself in on the condition that we are spared basically.So... Even a "nice" princess will bring trouble to the table.
>>52128028>insisted on not GMing>question the worldbuilding
>>52138013It speaks to all of us.
>>52127276I saved a Dwarf Princess once, she was kidnapped by an opposing clan so the party snuck in and took her back. And also stole the opposing clan's princess. It was pretty cool.
>>52145853>And also stole the opposing clan's princessAnd thus the wheel turns.
>>52146957She's alive, back home, and happy.
>>52145853>The BLU team has the flag!
>>52127276I have liberated many a princess from the clutches of petty warlords and elector counts of the feeble southernersthey serve me quite well in both my army and bedchambers
>>52145853>>52147174>The BLU team has the flag!No fucking way. It's the Fat Princess.
>>52147501>Fat PrincessThat game was fun.
None. And since I am basically a forever DM, it may be never. On the bright side, this thread did generate some good stuff for future use.
>>52127276Two, actually. They were twins, and the party's Elf Barbarian and Half-Orc Bard ended up cucking my Dwarf Wizard, who did almost all of the work.
>>52128197It can be done.
>>52128743>When the master vampire runs out of the room to go cry in his coffin.>The princess admonishes you for being rude and tells you to go and apologise.
>>52134734Somewhat unrelated, but the image and speech made me want to continue playing Alpha Protocol.
>>52150926Alpha Protocol is a great game. I think it's literally what Mass Effect should've been if it wasn't fucked up by EA. I mean, yeah, the Alpha Protocol actual gameplay isn't so hot, but the dialogue system is stellar.
>>52151023I really appreciate the way the game opens with the boss man telling you why he wants to hire you. "You're not a hero, you're a man willing to manipulate relationships for your purpose."It really gave a sense of freedom to be given a disclaimer of "this game won't judge you for being 'good' or 'bad', but people will treat you like a friend/rival/ally/enemy depending on how you treat them." when a game starts.
>>52151064The best thing is, it isn't actually bad when people treat you as an enemy. One example of it is Marsburg.Man, the characters in that game are fucking great. Literally no-one feels like a boring caricature cutout.
I've been gaming for 17 years and I've never even met a princess in a game. There were never any princesses to rescue. There are no princesses at all. In fact, the bard won't even get a kiss on the cheek from the bar maid.
>>52127276One.My PC at the time was the blacksmith's son looking for the missing baker's daughter whom he has a crush on.Trail leads him to join up with the party.Cue DM introduces the missing princess dillema.Fighter joins the rescue cause he'd be able to call in a favour from the king to help find his chick.Enter the dragon lair, beat the drake... and find the bakers daughter together with the princess.Princess goes ''MY HERO!'' and runns up to the fighter only to get dodged while the fighter rushes for the baker's daughter.That moment ensured the DM had inspiration to turn the princess into the future BBEG out of jelausy and having her pride as a woman offended...And so we were taught to not meddle in politics.
>>52127276None.I've killed about 40 or so though over 15 years.
>>521272762. One was in a Star Wars campaign, one was abducted by undeads.In over a decade of TTRPG. That's surprising.
>>52153597Perfect reaction image for >>52153013
>>52137880M'ladyStill, cute girls doing cute things in heavy armor.
>>52137880Do the girls get as far as first base with each other, or is it all just tomodachi crap?
>>52155375idk, I don't know Japanese.
>>52127884>>Haggling or resellingDo Princesses usually fetch good prices? My Neutral Evil Mercenary Fighter character is interested.
>>52155746Considering that your clientele would typically be among the most affluent people you could find, and what you are bartering over is an object of a very limited stock, I figure it should go without saying that princess trading is sure to be a lucrative business. Not that you should expect to see much of that business, but the individual transactions would certainly be profitable.
>>52155829So assuming my character didn't get killed by the King/Queen's secret agents, killed by rivals etc, I could make quite a lot of money? This sounds like a magical realm campaign that could be genuinely quite fun.
>>52128028>how the hell the dragon managed to get her in the first placeBifurcated tongues, they can tie knots with the things.
>>52155854Kidnapping princesses from distant lands to sell them off to their rivals?Fuck, that's a decent premise on its own And the ERP could be pretty spicy
>>52156492Exactly. The actual kidnapping would involve a whole party's skillset and have a lot of potential for adventures, twists and ups and downs.And having cute princesses in bondage to sell to their rivals to be kept in dungeons is ERP that writes itself.
>>52156547Jesus, I've never even considered erp before but this... this is something else.Apparently I am genuinely into porn for the plot, who knew
>>52156596Lewds are at their absolute best when given context, plot and buildup. If you're invested in the characters, and have had to work to get to participate in the ojou princess bullying BDSM orgy, then its much sweeter. Plus, as I said, it's a great setting for political intrigue, espionage, subterfuge, tension and battles. Princess trading is its own reward.
>>52156640Time to write a real convoluted, complex, multi-faceted, cute , political intrigue setting.I reckon an HRE style arrangement of lots of varied cultures under a single ruler could be good. High princess to m^2 ratio.
>>52156730Go for it!I tried something similar couple of years back with some people on /tg/. The campaign was more themed around domineering, lawful-lawful ladyknights and mages who had to travel around gagged and bound in areas where magic was heavily regulated, but there were still noble ladies getting into trouble.Sadly it didn't last due to scheduling conflicts, but I kept in touch with the people I met through it. We still write stuff and share ideas.
>>52156822I honestly think I remember seeing that thread (or one like it, anyway). I remember that whole regulated mages idea.I can already tell this is gonna be one of these settings I massively overplan for weeks and then never use.This was a terrible idea, now I've got to prep for an actual session in 10 minutes with erp princess kidnapping on the mind. Luckily those fucks are in an undead dungeon, and nowhere near any princesses.
>>52156959Unless the female members of the party get kidnapped by skeletons, locked in rusty but sturdy shackles, and boned.
>>52156959I don't see why undead dungeons and princesses have to be mutually exclusive.
>>52156992 Don't tempt me, I'm going to have to rush a cold fucking shower before the session at this rate Also that spoiler really tickled my funnybone
>>52157053I'm not sure if my party would be interested in entering the bone zone, sadly. They're more in the 'kill anything that moves for a laugh' camp.
>>52157058Well have fun, anon! Don't let this happen to your group. It would be very bad.
>>52157114Why are you doing this to my well crafted D&D session
>>52157147Well, characters getting trussed up or captured doesn't prevent them from playing or interacting with the world. It just makes it more challenging. And who doesn't like a challenge?
>>52157188It certainly impacts my ability to DM. Can't describe shit when I'm flustered as fuck.
>>52131700KekUnderrated post also nice dubs
>>52157249Then I shall stop.
>>52157315 Thanks for the discussion anon, you've opened up a whole new world to me
>>52157356Have fun exploring it. And remember: a party can lose a fight with some bandits, or a Rogue/Bard can get captured while spying without necessarily dying.
>>52127276i havent saved any myself but one of my players saved one when she disguised herself as a soldier and tried to slay a dragon
>>52128620Oh god, we had the most ridiculous dynamic in one game.So our first thing was pretty standard 'save a princess from orcs'. It went a little weird (She eloped with an Orc prince-equivalent but then both of them legit got kidnapped by other Orcs and it was all mildly confusing)Then a mission later goes south and she shows up with a retinue of royal guards and saves our asses.Then her sister gets kidnapped and we go rescue her.Then negotiations between some dragons and a local kingdom go shitways and she manages to salvage them while we brutally murder assassins and one really antisocial dude in full view of the draconic court.Then her castle is besieged by demons and we break the siege and save her and her hubbyI thiiiink that was the end of it.she was chill tho.
>>52127276One in the late 80's - no, wait, campaign never resolved, zero.Y'know, for something so "cliche" it apparently never fucking happens
>>52157398Oh, I think we all know I'm just going to writefag this for myself. I can barely hold together a regular campaign, I can't imagine one where I turn into a stuttering mess every time my 'thing' comes up
>>52158166Then run the campaign online, play by post.
>>52158213You're a terrible influence, you're making this way too easy for me As you seem to be an expert, how do you go about finding players for something like this? All my current players are irl friends, so they're out. Also holy macaroni, I'm gonna need some sources on these images you're posting
>>52158314>how do you go about finding players for something like this?Ask people on /tg/, forums, irc etc. Set up an email address for the campaign and post it. People who are interested will reply. Hell, start a thread if you're curious. >Also holy macaroni, I'm gonna need some sources on these images you're posting They're from all over the place, a collection I've built up over many years.
>>52127276Somewhere between zero and two.
>>52127276More than 10 and probably less than 100. Definitely less than 1000.
I kinda want a princess dungeon crawler. You're in the dungeon/tower/dragon pit/doom dimension and you gotta fight your way out.Like Prison Break meets the Soulsborne series, but with more fancy dresses and tiaras.
>>52158361Thanks anon. I'll probably never have the balls to use this info, but I'd like you to know that you've been very helpful nonetheless.
>>52128206Wield the princess's soul as a peerless sword. Impregnate the princess's eternal body as a royal breeding immortal, everlasting hot womb of my lineage.
>>52158530Well you'd have at least one player.
>>52156822Can you post a link to it?
>>52144520>an off-duty policeman can't criticize corrupt copsLiterally what the fuck?
>>52158584I ran it on Skype. Text chat only, though, and not people's IRL accounts.
>>52158577Make that two.
>>52158577>>52158665When I run the kinky princess kidnapping campaign I'll be sure to try to let my fellow helpful anons know.I should probably do some research actually. I have no idea how this erp shit usually works. Do you still play the game normally or is it mainly freeform?Also how the fuck do you write smut? I've written normal stuff but I'm going to have to get myself a dictionary of synonyms for knots and tits and stuff.
>>52158314That image there is from Seikon No Qwaser. The character's with super powers get power ups from breast milk, which is more effective depending on the intensity of emotion the other party is feeling. One of the main/secondary character's thing is heavily bondage themed, in that she basically turns one of the characters into a lolicon and her willing slave so she can induce intense lust/shame whenever she needs a power up.Otherwise distinctly below average show, with few standout moments, with an edgy main character. If the spoiler above interests you, it's probably worth it though.
>>52158811>I should probably do some research actually.Let me help you out there. Also, I certainly wouldn't mind waiting to begin the campaign until you have planned stuff and collected people, so my advice is to create the email address now and dump it here for us. People who are curious can get in touch with you that way, and you can post it again in appropriate threads to collect more players. I'd advise having absolutely no more than four players, however. >Do you still play the game normally or is it mainly freeform?That depends entirely on the group. Freeform usually leads to a narrative focus over encounters and if your players aren't idiots can result in a smooth transition from buildup to lewds and a good sense of pace. Playing the game normally (for the most part) is slower, but the uncertain nature can make things more interesting and there can sometimes be inventive ways to combine lewds with mechanics. The best systems for this tend to be simpler, rules-lite ones or systems most people are familiar with. D&D 5e, for instance, could work well. >Also how the fuck do you write smut? I've written normal stuff but I'm going to have to get myself a dictionary of synonyms for knots and tits and stuff.As with anything, it takes practice, experimentation and experience, but generally there should be an equal focus on what the characters are thinking/feeling and what's going on, without getting bogged down in the mundane or non-juicy details. Fortunately, practicing it is fun.
>>52159032Ahem Notpromisinganythingyet@outlook.com Thanks for the help again
>>52139010No one ever does.
>>52127276None, though we have saved a prince.Saved being a subjective term, here. Our NE sorceress became obsessed with him and is plotting to force a marriage with him before murdering the queen, our CE oracle (Lich) muscled his way into becoming the high priest of the kingdoms church and the rest of the party is looking to get some titles and abuse their power. Our long term plans heavily feature the words "Kingdom of Darkness".Can't imagine it'd go very different with a princess.
>>52159237Anon, is that an invitation to other people or just helping anon? I might be interested! (Sorry for no cute princess image, on celphone right now)
>>52160544It's an invitation to people who are interested.
>>52159237I have such bad luck with these things...
>>52155233>them majestic ojou drillsDoes the other girl pleasure old men for money?
>>52162202She does it for free.
>>52132942Your goal for a modern day set of functional knight armor would be to come up with something light enough to move relatively quickly in, which will offer you reasonable protection against small arms and the best protection you can manage against knives and clubs. You then have a little wiggle room for aesthetic, but you shouldn't do anything that actively gimps you. So something like a kevlar motorcycle suit for general full body protection as a base, with an additional bulletproof vest on the torso. Reinforce your forearms with some steel vambraces so you can block melee attacks with your arm, metal gauntlet on the left hand isn't a bad idea either. You need your right have to be more flexible than that, though. Give yourself a good pair of boots.Drape your body in a tabard and give yourself the proper acoutremants for the knightly aesthetic, and for helmet you would want something like a riot helmet modified to have a metal knightly visor. If you are going whole hog, you have the visor be backed with the same thick clear material used for the front of the riot helmet anyway, with a couple small holes drilled in it for airflow. Its fine to roll around with a shortsword on your side, but you would have to be an idiot to not carry some kind of ranged weapon. This is the age of firearms. Even if you swear only to use the gun to defend against other guns, you don't wanna be that dumbass who brings a sword to a gunfight. If I wanted to be a modern day knight errant, that's probably the best I could ever hope for. You are by no means invulnerable, and you will stick out like a sore thumb, but you should be tankier than any common criminal is expecting to deal with and to be honest you are sort of a walking element of surprise. Not because you will be stealthy, but just because you are probably the least likely thing to every come running at them.
>>52162892Plate armor is not that heavy, the only thing you'd need to add is literally bulletproofing, it was damn near a perfect defense when it was developed, and that hasn't changed.
>>52127276Never rescued any but did kidnap one in an evil campaign. And then the cleric girl seduced her to evil.
>>52162950I'd imagine that it still slows you down more than you want. If you are going to insist on melee combat, you need to be able to chase down people who are wearing normal clothes and close distances before guns get drawn. At that point, anything that infringes on your weight and mobility can be dangerous. Unless you plan on riding into battle on a motorcycle or segway, in which case by all means.
>>52163027It doesn't really, it's at most 60 some pounds of metal, but unlike modern combat gear its weight is spread over your entire body, pretty much evenly, it does slow you down, but not enough to matter, especially in melee combat.
>>52158587You fucking suck at analogies.
>>52127276I've saved a few. I usually play horrible monster fighters, clerics who love jesus more than they love a princess, or paranoid wizards who can't trust anyone else, so it rarely goes anywhere.
>>52128414>Design campaign with the awesome sword of destiny and plot advancement>Fighter uses Polearms, Paladin uses Axes, and nobody else can even use it>Legendary sword sits in someones backpack for the rest of the game, except the session where the Wizard tried to use it untrainedAnyone else have similar stories?
Reminder that the final evolution of plate armor is modern space suits. NASA examined authentic plate harnesses to work out how to completely enclose a man while still retaining mobility. It's made of modern materials, and has a lot of extra bulk and layers to keep the cold vacuum away, but at its core, it's a suit of plate armor.
>>52163611Yeah a suit of plate armor without the plate part, if it protects from knives, swords, and most kinds of melee weaponry, I suppose it could work, but i'm pretty sure it doesn't work against bullets..
>>52163648It protects from vacuum. Very specialized, but if you put personal armor on a tech tree, plate armor would have a reeeeeeaaaaalllllly long branch with space suits dangling on the end.
>>52163702I guess so, but I'm not sure it counts as personal defense against violence like plate armor. It's more personal defense against the vacuum filled spaces of the universe itself.
>>52158577Make that three
>>52163744>he doesn't know about the alien space pirates
>>52164107Sure, aliens are an inevitability, but I doubt we've had contact, and if we have it was a crashed and dead Alien.
>>52164107>He does know about the alien space pirates
>>52163648>>52163611NASA's EVA suit can stop small calibre bullets - they have a lot of kevlar and spellation armor to handle micrometeorites.
>>52131528thats pretty fucking deep anon
>>52163871>>52160544>>52162158Weeeell, to quote the e-mail, not promising anything yet but I'm considering firstname.lastname@example.org for anyone interested
>>52157114The others might be stopped by being bound, but I kinda have trouble believing that the Amazon couldn't break that wagon.
>>52127276One.We saved an elven princess from the archlich's siege army... that we were commanding 1/4th of. We lead orcs and formians to attack the seaside of the city where the king's fortress blocked the harbor. We softened the defenses up with a night raid and then smashed our way through with combined arms at dawn. Our objective was to take the castle and capture all of the nobles. The king committed suicide by leaping from his keep, but we convinced the queen and princess that we would bring them to safety. We delivered the queen to our employer, where we found it was a body double who was immediately executed, but we kept the princess as she was a dignitary from another kingdom. That kingdom fell later, and 99.8% of elves in the world were exterminated. I think she survived the genocide, so we kinda saved her.
>>52164878>No carrying magic amazon-securing chains on your kidnap wagon
>>52164979I'm presuming she can't break the chains. But that rest of the wagon is made of what is by all appearances normal ass wood. We know she can break wood with her bare hands, or more accurately her legs. Smashing open doors and shit. When your GM tells you that the random slaver has enchanted unbreakable chains AND a wagon made out of enchanted unbreakable wood, that's when you know you are firmly on the no fun allowed railroad.
>>52165098I guess some kind of weakening curse would work. Chains that sap the strength of their victims sound pretty damn useful. I mean you wouldn't try to kidnap an amazon without being at least semi-prepared.But yes, sans magic the cart and everyone within a mile radius of it are about to get amazoned.
>>52165098Frankly, the part that gets me is that there is just one fucking guy on that wagon with them. Who doesn't even seem to have armor or weapons. This raises immediate questions as to how they got captured in the first place, and how the hell he hopes to contain them when they get wherever they are going. Because even without weapons, without some serious bullshit going on any one of those three could make mincemeat out of a single dude. Since they all appear unharmed, the best bet is they got in some kind of trap that took them down without a fight, like sleeping gas or something? In which case the poor fucker probably has no idea of the hell he is in for because he didn't have to subdue them by force.
>>52165254Well as long as where he came from and where he's going both have a force big enough to subdue them, and assuming the chains hold, that arrangement would work.I guess the guy could be some kind of magician too, potentially.
>>52164878>>52164979>>52165098>>52165157>>52165254>>52165307I never thought the pic I posted would prompt so much actual discussion. Is this more practical? By the same artist.
>>52165347You're going to get kicked if you go near those twoOther than that it could work
>>52165375Legs are at least bound, even if not in chains.All in all, that pic shows a healthy respect for female adventurers and how dangerous they can be. Nothing pisses me off more than seeing some armor clad chick perform a multikill streak that leaves 16 dead and then suddenly she is powerless because some dude grabbed her by the shoulder.
>>52165375How? The one on the left has her legs tied together. >>52165456You may like this one, then.
Dammit, guys, I have just acquired cellar room, that can be conveniently soundproofed. Stop giving me ideas.
>>52165498This image is cropped, right? Please tell me you have the full version.
>>52165498What's stopping you? Do yo hate free money?
>>52127276Saving a princess is my dream. Unfortunately I haven't even been able to do it in a game, the only princesses I see are either warriors or subversive.
>>52165456A proper adventurer should take at least 5 people to subdue. That's kinda hot actually, now that I think of it >>52165484You'll get kicked with both legs at once. I'm assuming she has at least a little upper body strength, as an adventurer.>>52165498Use it to host an ERP for the rest of us. No-one will ever know.
>>52163027Roller blades with large wheels, offset from your sabotons, and retractable for steady footing when it comes to force of arms.Modified from pic related or similar.
>>52165518Why yes, I do have full version.>>52165537You gotta invest money to make money...
>>52165555>You'll get kicked with both legs at once. I'm assuming she has at least a little upper body strength, as an adventurer.Okay, so what about pic related? We know how dangerous Samus is. >You gotta invest money to make money...Rope is cheap! Nice quints, by the way.
>>52165616Would you mind posting it? Or at least a link if it's not for a blue board.
>>52165635For a normal person I reckon that'd do. For Samus... idk. Maybe tie the legs together as well. And a blindfold. And put her in a box at the bottom of the sea. That might be enough.
>>52165676Like this? http://imgur.com/a/n2an8
>>52165636>>>/h/4567195There's couple variants / edits - stockings, stronger blush, etc. that I did not save. Reverse image search should lead you on.
>>52165729Idk I feel like that might make Samus angry. I think I'd rather stick to less risky victims. As fun as it would be to take down such a heroine, princesses and assorted easier damsels are available too.
>>52165735Great. Thank you, anon.
>>52165098>When your GM tells you that the random slaver has enchanted unbreakable chains AND a wagon made out of enchanted unbreakable wood, that's when you know you are firmly on the no fun allowed railroad.Unless this is a ruse, and the Wagon is just a dragon utilizing an absolutely retarded Disguise check.
>>52165874Chaining maidens to dragons as a sacrifice to the rock that terrorises the town?
>>52165763>assorted easier damsels are available too.Such as?
>>52165976Either that or a dragon that discovered that fewer adventurers come to stab you when everyone just thinks you are a low-level slaver with no cash and a beat-ass wagon.
>>52165992Compared to Samus? Pretty much anyone.Local tavern wench, town guard, the evil sorceress of evil-land, your fellow kidnappers. Also any elves that happen to be around.
>>52166056>Also any elves that happen to be around.How valuable are elves?
>>52166117Judging by that image, there's quite a market. Folks will pay a pretty penny for some high-quality elf-bodies
>>52166148So what if there are no elves in the setting? Where's the best place to snag merchandise?
>>52127276Let's see (warning, all of the following are dragonblooded/born to various degrees). White Princess. She was being held captive in the same dungeon I was, and being horrifically experimented on by the corrupt lord of the castle. Broke out, dueled the lord, gained the castle (briefly...) and rescued her. Afterward, she swore fealty to me because it turned out I was a crypto-princess too. Go figure, right? That's one and possibly two (possibly more, if instances of saving myself stacks). Then, the next one would probably be the Prophet of my family Goddess. Exalted as Goddess' champion, it was my duty to save her Herald who was busy being reborn. The Enemy was attacking/trying to corrupt her in her metaphorical and literal egg. I beat a shoggoth with a shoggoth and kept them off her, *mostly* saving her from the depredations. The Herald of the dragon goddess of fire and earth is perpetually cold because the Enemy got some of her essence, but that's okay, just gives her an excuse to cuddle up to her more-than-warm-enough champion. Look, not technically royalty but divine voice of a goddess counts, shut your face. Then I saved princess #1 again. She'd been possessed, I managed to beat her silly then retrieve her dying, comatose body, place her in the care of Herald, a divine caster, and my mother, an arcane caster. Then everything feel apart, I woke up in a dungeon. I had to save myself, Blue Prince/Duke, Blue Princess/Duchess(...failed), Mother (red princess), and had kept Herald safe again by assigning a hyper-competent minion to protect her. Also White Princess was sprung from her containment cell by the baddies.Then I fucked off for a bit before chasing down White Princess, saved her again. (Maybe saved Grandmother too, but she's a queen, so doesn't count.)Then as part of a spirit-quest/character building montage, I wound up saving a (different) blue Princess from disillusionment/spiritual decay, rather than bodily danger.
>>52166222Well if you want the insider's view, I reckon the halfling market is really up-and-coming. Cheaper to package and transport, so more profit for you.And some of them are pretty smoking hot.
Planning to make PCs to meet with the king, ask tasked to kill a dragon who kidnapped the princess. King will urge them to priortize killing the dragon than rescuing the princess..And it will turn out that the princess was not actually kidnapped but handed by the king to dragon as a collateral, and the Jew Dragon banker was in fact just telling the king to pay late due interest.Too cliche?
>>52166299Aren't they much more dangerous to capture? Halflings do not shoot to wound.
>>52166056How about the rare Princess Knight?I'd imagine that they're hard to retrain.
>>52166315Greedy little bastards though. Drugged food works every time, and they can't shoot you once they're tied down.
>>52141386>Unless you're Robin of Locksley, anyway.Not for lack of trying...
>>52166351It takes time, but once you get them out of the armour and into a nice dress (and some ropes, just in case), they soften right up. Like putty in your hands.
>>52166388The sheer ERP scenarios are just great.Especially breaking very proud Princess Knights in order for them to be in more subservient roles.
>>52166117Very. A good elf will keep for your entire career, and it's easy to keep sprucing her up and selling her as "pure", especially if you retire her for a year or three.Of course, very few people will actually believe you, but they'd be willing to pay to pretend.
>>52166403Oh there is no way I'd want to do something as depraved as that. if you find an erp like that let me know immediately
>thread about princess saving is now bondage/slave discussionI missed this side of /tg/
>>52166299>>52166315Gnomes are also hot-ticket items. The illusion magic takes some experience to work around (For god's sake, make sure you poke around your "empty" gnome cage with a stick or something before you open it in shock), but they fetch a huge price among certain, fanatic circles, especially if you play up their smaller, childlike frame. They also keep longer than Halflings, and are less likely to pick any locks you put them behind.
>>52166456I'm just dreading the point where this lovely thread hits the bump limit, I'm enjoying it way too much.>>52166461Far as i'm aware they can't use their tricks if they are A: Blinded, B: Gagged and C: Bound. This is simple stuff in the monster slaving business, I'm surprised you didn't know it.
>>52128206>Wield Princess Sword and romance her>Promise you'll break the curse one day>Never break the curse because sword waifu is better
>>52166788>she can't leave you if she's an inanimate object
>>52166836>Become immortal warrior as an excuse to stay with princess sword forever>Bring destruction across the land, killing people for no reason but to justify your keeping your love prisoner>Get defeated by a party of spunky teenagers
>>52127276I have played TTRPGs for about 10 years now and I can count the number of actual princesses saved on one hand: 5.Two were in DnD campaigns: One was early on when I had no idea what I was doing, one was much later and part of a pretty epic campaign. One was in The LoTR RPG and it was about as cliche as it could have possibly been.And two were in pathfinder: One was being held prisoner by her traitor brother (who was actually zomg a demon) and married our Bloodrager. The other one we saved by accident, so cool.
>>52166880>Not locking your swordfu in a dungeonYou chose your fate
>>52127847Geb is that you?
>>52167023>Being slain by your swordfu in the hands of a destined hero
I feel sorry for anyone who comes into this thread hoping for quality discussion about saving princesses right now.
>>52167380To be fair, that part of the thread was pretty dull. Its was just people going "Oh I saved 3." Followed by some fairly dull anecdotes. At least there's some spice to it now.
>>52127276The usual suspects for vidya, plus a handful in adventures. They are kind of rare characters, plus I DM a lot. IRL still 0 which hurts a little inside; but still managed to protect some females from muggers and shit.>>52132678That's how I know this nigga is right.
>>52166495You'd think so, but I've seen a gnome use their toes to make arcane gestures, and I swear to you I've heard a gnome produce an incantation nasally.
>>52167707Well in that case I can only recommend you use more rope. Maybe just stick them in a box if the problem persists.
>>52159237Email sentThis shit is my exact magical realm. If anybody wants to set up an IRC or play by post campaign with this sort of thing. I'd be down. I've got a new gmail at email@example.com
>>52168091>Gmail>On OutlookI'm retarded.
>>52166117Where do you find cool pics like this?
>>52168330Not him, but deviantart is a pretty good source for that kind of stuff. Some of the other pics he posted were from there.
>>52127276One. Unfortunately she turned out to be an evil, manipulative bitch. This is why I don't bother with nobility anymore.
>>52141386>Knights didn't have the authority to mete out capital punishment. That was a right only lords hadThis depended on the local laws of the land. The Knight of Hoogwoud in the Netherlands for example, had held the right of capital punishment for at least 9 generations before them being banished.
>>52167041>The hero breaks the cruise and marries the princess.It's like Zelda if the voice acting was better.
>>52168330What >>52168353 said. Also Gelbooru, Shanachan and Pixiv.
So did anyone beat five princesses saved?
>>52173659Does it have to be five different ones or can you save the same one multiple times?
>>52173659I only beat one of them for being a little shit.
>>52158546Wouldn't she still run out of eggs a few decadds down the line
>>52168091Wait, were you the original guy who was thinking about running it, or someone new?
>>52174105Different guy. I'm the original.
>>52174204Just realised how unclear that was. I'm not the guy you were talking to, but I'm the guy who was thinking about it earlier.
>>52174237So wait, are there two potential GMs?
>>52174253I think there's just a bunch of people with an e-mail and poor organisational skills.If you want in give us a shout, we still have no idea what's going on so your odds are good.
>>52174309I've messaged both accounts just to be sure. I'm the guy who sowed the seeds of the idea (who ran the campaign listed in >>52156822) and I've found that the best way to get these things to work is to wrangle people together via email then use Skype/IRC/group email/whatever to introduce people.
>>52174368Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how we're going to go about it. At the moment we're fucking around with timezones and trying to sort out players vs GMs
>>52174368Also which one are you?
>>52174521Initials are CD. I'm the guy who tried to encourage the GM to start and posted all the totally relevant pictures.
>>52159237>>52168091Just sent an email to the two of you if either of you wind up running a game.Thanks!
ITT We talked princesses, BDSM, ERP, and /u/knights. Good thread /tg/, let's do it again sometime.
>>52127276>Princess becomes the General of the ArmyHow can I justify this and have it not be retarded
>>52173731Multiple. If I can stack multiple instances, I'm sitting on 8.5 or 9.
>>52175278Were you expecting anything less?
>>52175368She's legitimately good at it? Some people just have a knack for that kind of thing.Drop her in a position where she has to lead because there's no-one else around. She does a good job, henceforth she's the general.>>52175414In that case I've got 1. You're still winning.
>>52175434Did you just assume I wouldn't have?
>>52175458No, I was simply agreeing with the fact /tg/ has good threads.
>>52175368There's two ways that I think work well.1: Royal family members have to join the military, but she has no skill or aptitude for it. So she's a general, but all the orders come from her command staff and she just gives speeches.2: Circumstances, like most/all senior officers being dead, along with anyone else from the royal family who would be more qualified. Do or die.3: She has an affinity for it and legitimately worked up to a command position. If that would be really out of the ordinary for a princess, she might have started by training with the royal guards who humored her until her skill was recognized.
>>52175479Sorry, three. Obviously,
>>52175368Her kid brother is too young to lead an army and she's actually been taught the art of war, so they disguise her as her brother to lead.
>>52175368She's fighting a galactic empire.
Are we gonna make a second thread?
NEW THREAD>>52175585>>52175585>>52175585NEW THREAD
>>52175569Make it so
I haven't saved any but I've fucked a couple.