PREVIOUS THREAD: ( >>50119235 )http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/50119235/WIKI:https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Nobledark_ImperiumTHREAD FOCUS:make nobledark dark again>Well, this is nobleDARK after all. >Sounds like we need valiant last stands and cooperation and fuckhuge balls that still get steamrollered by the sheer amount of ohgodwhat.>Or backstabbed by dickery in the case of deldar or croneldar. They're still a thing, and apparently linked(?)>WotB (further out than Terra, at least) sounds good for this.>Pre-Imperium Tau sound good for this.>Nids making landfall sounds REALLY good for this.Necrons/C'Tan/Oldies had something cool bashed out, I think? Didn't get a good look at it - them being "proactive" in finding more flesh hosts, I think - but it sounds pretty noice.
>>50263743The only thing I remember about the Necrons in this AU were from thread before last;I imagine when the Necrons had wiped the sleep out of their eyes and com out of the auto-pilot and the Silent King had arisen to speak for the largest faction of them that there would have at least initially have been the possibility of diplomatic dialogue.I can also imagine it pissing off the eldar citizens of the Imperium enormously. They would find it incredible that they can't adequately communicate how fucking stupid humanity can be at times.Agreements would be reached. In much the same way that the Maiden Worlds are off limits to settlers without eldar permission that they never give so too would the Tomb Worlds be treated. With everyone staying off of everyone else lawn things start to run smoother for a time. Emperor starts making deals with the lesser lords for including them in the mutual protection deals. Shit is looking hopeful. Crypteks are refusing to share toys and know how but such things would be used to keep the citizenry safe anyhow so it would amount to more or less the same.Shit starts to go bad when the Necrons refuse to keep their Flayed Ones under control. Refuse to even apologize. Flayed Ones are still Necrons and even one of their damaged kind is worth a million lesser lives."Renegade" Crypteks keep abducting civilians for experiments.Freshly awakened Necrons keep going about their genocidal business and the other Necrons refuse to keep them contained until their wits are awoken. They claim that the Sleep Walkers haven't actually broken any Necron Laws and that the Imperium should be grateful they are turning a blind eye to their half-slumbering brethren being shot at.
>>50263812Then the Silent King returns after a long time absents and demands over a trillion human citizens every century for use in experiments to undo the bio-transference. By his estimations the dent in the human population would be more than recovered in the century allowed for recovery. In a great display of generosity the Emperor would be permitted to choose who of his people would have the honour of being sacrificed in this glorious endeavor. If taken evenly from the breadth of the Imperium their loss wouldn't even be felt.At that point Emperor apologizes to the Eldar and admits that they were indeed right.Necrons are added to the same list as Orks and Tyrannids in regards to how they should be treated.The remains of the Silent King's messenger was returned in something resembling a paper soup cup and that was the last message the Emperor ever sent to the Silent King that wasn't delivered via weaponry.
>>50263824>>50263812Here it is >>50121801Retoasting for prosperity:I had an idea popping around my head with regards to AdMech interacting with "imperial" Cryptechs.I know that Hektor Heresy already did their own cool take on space-vampires... Nobledark vampires could be a radical admech trying to replecate the mind-transferance process.Either>Crazy AdMech tries to transfer himself fully into a machine body and it doesn't work as well.>Crazy AdMech tries to reverse the mind-transfer of a minor-lord back into a "willing" host body, and it works with unexpected side-effects. >After seeing the success of the gestalt soul that is The Steward (because by all counts The Steward was MUCH more successful than the Emperor,) the surviving free Ctan-Shards that are large enough for sapience enact a last-ditch plan to copy the process, using the meliability of human souls, to create a gestalt entity of Ctan-Shards housed within a human-host-body that would be for the physical world what the Emperor was for the Warp. Either their own selfishness, The Deciever, or both, fuck it up, and we get the first Space Vampire.>>So they still have the ability to eat souls, but they're stuck in a fleshy body now?>Basically, that's the idea behind the third concept. The original projenitor[s] would be true Ctan conciousness traped in mortal bod[y/ies]. Later generations would be mortals with ctan-shard essence corrupting them.>I was thinking that they could release a weaker but ubiquitous control signal to lesser Necrons: it couldn't override the stronger signal of a surviving lord, but the many "orphaned" legions who's lords failed in sleep, can be summoned.>Either that, or their blood is some sort of watered-down necrodermis that lets them convert humans into watered-down pariahs.
>>50264017Vampire infiltrators?YES FUCKING PLEASE!Oh sweet Jesus Christ that could be good and gives a reason for maintaining the regular 40k sized Inquisition and Assassin Temples. Eldar, Human, Tau, Demiurg and others all huddle together back to back to out stare the darkness but it's already inside the camp.If they weren't inherently malevolent so much as uncaring before they sure as fuck are predatory and at least mildly sadistic now.
How are abhumans treated in this Imperium?
>>50265029Basically>Your genes are pretty much human with minor changes and stable? Congrats, you're human nuff, here's a rifle, get to work>You started as human but you're sure a fuck not one now? Fucking die>Your genes are pretty much human but unstable? Fucking die
>>50265029>>50265230Pretty much vanilla 40k, but with a "eh, close enough" section in between the "perfectly fine" and "fucking exterminatus" boxes
>>50264017>>After seeing the success of the gestalt soul that is The Steward (because by all counts The Steward was MUCH more successful than the Emperor,) the surviving free Ctan-Shards that are large enough for sapience enact a last-ditch plan to copy the process, using the meliability of human souls, to create a gestalt entity of Ctan-Shards housed within a human-host-body that would be for the physical world what the Emperor was for the Warp. Either their own selfishness, The Deciever, or both, fuck it up, and we get the first Space Vampire.demanding access to the ruins of Chthonia would also be a pretty quick way to piss off the Emperor
>>50265230On the map we are using it mentioned that there were gene-splicing hippies in the mountains in the west of Merika and Calbi and in the other threads it was mentioned that their inclusion provided the know-how to stabilize the later types of astartes thus making Dorn and a few of the others of obsolete design.It's probably safe to assume that the hippes went on to found the Adeptus Biologicus or if not found it then get folded into it and largely take that shit over with their superior knowledge and expertise to say nothing of royal patronage.But where do they stand in relation to the genetic aberrations?If they were hippies, as they were called, then they would be kindly or at least reasonably so.IF they were gene-spliced themselves then they would possibly see very little wrong with Nightsiders, Ratlings, Void Born and the like but as part of the Mechanicum they would see something wrong with Ogryn.Not wrong in a you are sinful sort of way but wrong in a you are afflicted sort of way. The one thing they wouldn't be happy with is a race of severe congenital retards as it is anathema because they can never appreciate the wonders of the Omnissiah.They would possibly try to cure them and undo their faulty genes, especially if it turns out they are a botched Dark Age attempt to adapt humans to harsh environments because then it's just repairing hardware.I propose that by the 41st millennium the Ogryn are maybe not quite as strong as their distant ancestors but are smarter. Although not as smart as most people they are just about smart enough to be people.Basically they are big noble savage warrior bro creatures that die in droves in every conflict they get shipped to because they demand to be the tip of the blade.
>>50265759It might be interesting to have the hippie scientists be the tolerant faction in the Biologis to oppose the hardline Jemanic genesmiths who get incorporated when Duscht Jemanic joins the imperium, since genetic purity is a major part of Jemanic fluff.
>>50266028That could be good.Genesmiths are all about making people better. Hippies are about making things healthy.
Corax is on hold, sorry. I was having trouble pushing through him, especially since I'm a little wary of dipping too great a toe in to old Earth and the Imperium's past. That, and I've found fertile ground updating and revising the Navis Nobilite. Probably will be done with that bit by Friday.Just because he's on hold doesn't mean I've entirely given up on him. Nor does it mean that people should hold off- if somebody else thinks of something cool for Corax and the Raven Guard, have at it.
>>50265230I think this is even a bit on the harsh side. I mean, the Imperium is willing to incorporate benevolent xenos, so even if an abhuman strain has pretty extensive mutations they'd probably be ok as long as they pay their taxes, send troops, and don't mess things up.
>>50267432If they are a long term threat to the genetic integrity of the species as a whole then they would be forcibly re-engineered or quarantined on their home world.
>>50266028>genetic purity is a major part of Jemanic fluff.ididnotnoticethis.jpeg>>50266604I feel like there'd be a massive divide in the biologis (even to this day, maybe) over how the genesmiths are salty over and refuse to accept that the hippies were the ones who fixed their astartes' tendency to break down physically and/or mentally after their expiry date (possibly at the expense of some martial prowess). hippies in turn give themselves the credit from turning the unstable prototypes (cough angron cough) into "real" spehss mehreens.tl;dr: genesmiths made Thunder Warrior EQs, hippies turned them into Astartes, both sides are salty bc of it
>>50267996TW were never totally fixed despite best efforts. Angron was considered miraculous in that he managed to survive past WotB.
>>50267996Not to be pedantic, referencing a post I made last thread: >>50186982Chronologically Duscht Jemanic joined late in the unification and the genesmiths helped create both the Mk III variations as per the Sangy fluff.
>>50268256>>50268251Loud shrugs, 'm not a writefag so I'm just sitting here in awe and gratitude of all the stuff you goys come up with
>>50268308It's all good, all contributions are needed and appreciated.
...Is it dead?
>>50273800Not quite. A while longer, please.
>How about we replace the Ecclesiarchy with a galaxy wide Department of Education? Okay, follow me a little while, I know it sounds stupid-The Rhetor Imperia didn't mean to build an army. They were teachers, after all. But, as the saying goes, spare the rod, get killed and eaten by daemons spilling forth from the mind of the child...The threat of Chaos is still there, and still insidious. For those poor souls 'gifted' with psionic powers, a moment's carelessness could lead to their very soul being torn asunder, and their very flesh rendered into a portal for daemons to slip into the materium to sow terror. The only reprieve is that it is rare for psykers to manifest their abilities before the onset of puberty (But it is still horrifyingly possible for prodigies to manifest earlier). Because this is the Nobledark Imperium, generally speaking lynch mobs and witch hunts are frowned upon. Not that that doesn't happen, but it doesn't have state sponsorship. The Emperor generally prefers murder as a last resort, and done with a degree of professionalism.Instead, the issue of psykers is approached more humanely, with agents attempting to identify potentials as young as possible to minimize their chances of causing damage to the Imperium. The approach to this problem was two fold- first, corral all possible problem children into facilities for inspection and safe sequestration until the black ships arise, and secondly, educate the populace (Responsibly) about these dangers, and what to do in case such happens.In the name of efficiency, these two functions have been combined into one institution. From birth, all children of the Imperium are supposed to be offered a place in the Schola Vulgus to better themselves and learn proper moral values and skills to serve the Imperium better. The courses range from basic arithmetic to diagnosing warp corruption, from samples of Imperial literature to learning Xenos languages.That is the ideal at least.>Continue?
Agh, fuck, never mind. Gotta go to work. Stupid sick people.
>>50274093Hope not if we have the possibility of more writefaggatory on the way.Also Jubblowski because Jubblowski.
>>50274487Sounds good always continue if there is more.But please don't go Full Fedora with the belief that Education and Religion are opposed. Imperium does not impose atheism and historically religions institutions have often sponsored or outright run schools.
So what crazy and oh-so-hilarious shenanigans would dank eldar have done in this AU?
>>50276514Nothingmuch really, they're still disgusting sweat goblins that are masters of dickery and torture
>>50273800>>50274093Nah, this is how the past few threads have gone. There will be bursts of activity after fresh writefaggotry is posted or a great idea is thrown out, then things quiet down a bit, then it starts all over again.
>>50277735Preparing for burst of activity.
>>50274598No, they're not opposed. I was raised in a catholic school, I know that. I was just thinking how space nuns with guns could come about, and thought back to my childhood, and the many strikes of the ruler across my knuckles.
>>50274487don't tie 'em in with sisters pls, I liked what editbro did with them working with the Sicarius for the assassiny fluff
>>50278958Also replying to >>50278932
>>50278958Alright. Never mind.
>>50276514>>50276672Also may or may not have more than a few ties with the Chaos Eldar. Something about vects waifu being a Greater Daemon or something can't remember. Granted, this might blur the lines - but think of them both as addicts. Only one of them's stealing and murdering to fund their habit, while the others given up and descended into crackwhoredom
>>50278958It really doesn't make sense to me as to why armies of battle nuns are necessary to watch rare, politically castrated, and sneaky breeky human weapons. In regular 40k, it makes sense to have the battle nuns fighting Chaos and all of its influences due to their religious fantaticism, and the fact that Faith=Magic Power. But in the nobledark, the Emperor doesn't want to be worshiped, and armies of fanatics watching the relatively few on a galactic scale assassins seems silly.
>>50278932Thank you for clarifying. I too was taught in Catholic schools and I may have been rather too defensive.It would make some sense for the Rhetor Imperia to co-opt the more organized religions institutions and borrow their infrastructure.It was shown in the previous thread how the Emperor's ban on militarized religious orders could be worked around in that they are citizens militias that just happen to have a common faith. Provided they pay for their own gear.Of course in this Imperium the Sororitas and Fraternis would be umbrella terms used to collectively refer to many groups of many diverse faiths.On the one hand they would not have such political clout but on the other hand they would be only accountable to the head of their religion.
>>50279016If we are going with Lady Aurelia Malys being the Deamon Queen of Chaos this would be a good picture of her. The big black feathery wings are intentionally grown because it pisses off the Blood Angels. Rumor has it they were torn from Sanguinious' back.At some point she engaged in a blasphemous and all manner of fucked up wedding with Asdrubael Vect, Lord of Shaa-Dom and Commorragh.Some would say that being married to the Queen of Chaos whilst banning warpcraft in the Dark City is a tad hypocritical. Yes it is. He's Lord Asdrubael Vect, he gives no shits. You can file a complaint with the complaints department if you are feeling stupid.Lady Malys is blessed of all the gods of Chaos. She is insanely powerful on an individual levels and just dangerously insane enough to get all the warbands of Chaos to temporarily act together and swear obedience but still just coherent enough to make use of it.Only the Emperor is her equal in a one on one confrontation and only a fully awakened Avatar of Khain (and a lot of support) has any realistic hope of stopping her. She has died many times but the gods keep resurrecting her at least in part because they don't want her in the Realm of Chaos for longer than is necessary.She is still "mortal" in that she is not in a deamon-prince sort of deal. She swore no oaths of loyalty for he power, the gods keep her powered up possibly because they are scared to find out what she would do one of them with the powers of the others if one of them stopped. They give her power she fucks shit up and that feeds them. How a mere mortal can operate on that sort of insanely high rape train level is unknown.It is perhaps that she is the equal and opposite of The Emperor. Her marriage to Vect being a mirror of Isha and Emperor.In a few of the Starchild Prophesies it is her that gives birth to the Impossible Child rather than Isha and in one rather horrible prophesy the Emperor is the posthumous father.
>>50279193I think that the Rhetor Imperia realizes rather quickly that ideological clarity is a good bulwark against chaos. Whether it be from faith, stubborn iron will, or in the case of some ogryns, simple minded optimism, chaos spreads from doubt. Rather than attempting to universalize a single curriculum and break their already over stretched bureaucracy trying to corral a single doctrine over a galaxy, instead they cooperated with local religious authorities (So long as they didn't have too much of the spikes and skulls thing going) to provide resources for training and logistics for guarding their vulnerable charges, but otherwise left the matter to them.As it turns out though, young psykers are high in demand by various dark forces. So, volunteer militias cropped up, often organized by these same religious authorities, with the aid of training, money, and political justification from the Rhetor Imperia. By simple natural selection, the best choices to face chaos are those that would not fall to temptation, and the vast majority of religions provide a moral framework to resist chaos's foul blandishments, so more and more ad-hoc citizen militias chosen to guard (Or guard against) young psykers took on a distinctly religious bent that provided resistance against mental manipulation. The Imperium at large started to take notice of this after increasing reports of heroic actions in the face of the impossible were undertaken by these citizen militias. As more and more of the Rhetor Imperia's funding was diverted to security (Or embezzled) these citizen militias started acquiring equipment to balance the odds of their low numbers. Though it feels strange to be so militarily focused, the Rhetor Imperia can't argue with results. More psykers are brought into the fold, more citizens are educated, and less worlds are consumed by daemons.
>>50278993>>50279126>>50279126Sorry if I sound confusing and/or a shit, but hear me out plsIt's not necessarily watching the sneeki breekis, that was just bad wording on my part..As far as I can make out, the way it was written in our assmaster fluff was that Emps formed the Sicarus to watch them, then decided "accountability and oversight? this is some goooood shit" and expanded their remit to pretty much every branch of the imperium. Like the ecclesiarchy, it solves the "who guards the guards" problem (or tries to but is swamped) - but unlike vanilla 40k, it uses Reasonable Inquisitors instead of literal fucking knights Templar.Also, the whole "no men under arms" thing was applied to them, since something that can be judge and jury to everything from the administratium to the inquisition itself should not really be allowed to be the executioner. Which fits with their principles, I guess.>enter: nuns with guns
>>50279518>Whether it be from faith, stubborn iron will, or in the case of some ogryns, simple minded optimism, chaos spreads from doubt.Meant to write, "Whether it be from faith, stubborn iron will, or in the case of some ogryns, simple minded optimism, this removes doubt, and chaos spreads from doubt."
>>50279525Hmm, it looks like a side effect of this is that if the nuns go to the Ordo Sicarius, the Ordo Hereticus no longer has a Chamber Militant. The Grey Knights are definitely still around and I would imagine the Deathwatch are too, so do we want to brainstorm a new group of badasses, or do the nuns help out the Hereticus as well?Actually, now that I think of it, the Sicarius and the Hereticus overlap pretty heavily then right? Didn't some guy suggest in the last thread the Sicarius could have a more limited role of just making sure the Emperor isn't worshipped?
>>50279953Guy who wrote the Sicarus into their expanded role here, and >>50279525 is basically bang-on. Come to think of it yeah, there is overlap between Sicarus and Heretics, but I intended the Sicarus to be an ordo for the agencies of the imperium itself, primarily Administratium and Inquisition, rather than the people. An Inquisitorial Watchdog, if you will. Plus, the Sicarius' mission statement is just to keep an eye out for irresponsibility, and *professional* corruption rather than chaotic corruption. While the former may be a symptom of the latter, they can salvage a lot of the borderline cases that would've been "Heretic! [BLAM]"med in vanilla 40k - and besides, surely the hereticus has inadvertently uncovered many chaos and genestealer cults? At the end of the day, the overlap just makes doubly sure the Inquisition Gets Shit Done
>>50280456Administratium, Inquisition, and maybe Militarum (higher bits where commissars don't reach), Mechanicus and Astartes. Depending on how "reee Inquisitors please go" each one is feeling at the time.
>>50280490I didn't think there were any bits the commissars didn't reach.>>50281249In this AU maybe the red face strips are traditionally worn by eldar women who have, at some point in their life, walked the path of Disciple of Isha.
I get the feeling that the High Lords would be more of a monitoring and advisory council rather than outright rulers in their own right. They might run the day there day things and keep things ticking over but they would be answerable to the Emperor in the occurrence of huge fuck ups. No great changes in policy would only be done without the Emperor's say so. In this Imperium what would be the High Lords?Imperial Guard possibly also incorporating the Astartes.Rhetor Imperia and Schola ProgeniumAstropathica, schola psykana, black shipsAdeptus ArbitersInquisitionWould there be a spokesman for religious affairs? I like to think that if there was Logar would have been it back in the old days. His twilight years spent fostering peace, good way to end the life of an old warrior.
>>50282227My vote for the current, as of 999M41, High Lady of the Astropathica and general psychic shenanigans has to be someone like Granny Weatherwax.Yes, she has gone on record as having summoned daemons. She was not stripped of authority for two reasons;Firstly this it was sanctioned and reluctantly done.Secondly her method of deamon summoning consists of dragging a deamon out of the warp and beating it till it tells you what it knows.Not so much dabbling with the warp as terrorizing it.
>>50283226Sounds like we're nerfing chaos a bit too much though. That level of control over and immunity to the warp should be reserved for Emperor tier characters, even extremely disciplined inquisitors have been corrupted by things as simple as chaotic artifacts.
>>50283744How would the Deathwatch be organized and run this time?Are they still a subsidiary of the Inquisition or their own thing that just works with the Inquisition?
>>50274541Needs more Jubblowski.Also Cain, Ambassador of the Imperium.
>>50288627Isn't it that someone when someone suggested there'd be separatist-rebels; both in humanity and eldar, those butthurt rebels once tried assassinating Jubblowski, right?The justification of the human separatist-rebels is that she's corrupted with foul alien magic, while the anti-imperial eldar rebel-separatists also tried to kill her because she "stole" Isha's blessing?Also they tried to kill both Taldeer and Lofn apparently.
>>50289673Yeah, I think they were supposed to be crazy Eldar purists who rejected any sort of integration with humanity.
This is a really interesting settingDoes the Mechcanicus exist?
>>50291856Welcome. Yes, the Mechanicus are still around, and are a bit more tolerant than in canon becauseA) they have to deal with xenos and their technology on a daily basisand B) Emps is still around to smack them upside the head whenever they get too retarded.
>>50292485It's also more that the Bonesingers and Tech-priests are legally obligated to not come within half a mile of each other on most worlds.Tech adopts can usually tolerate the Earth Caste and other alien technicians, to an extent, in day to day life. It usually manifests as being carefully polite to each other and overly formal.But there is just something about the Bonesingers and their wraithbone that just pisses them right off. Also the Bonesingers keep annoying them on purpose because hearing mechanics REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE is fucking hilarious to them.
>>50289673Th investigation into the attempted murder of Colonel-Farseer Taldeer Ulthran was dropped after a number of high ranking politicians and a number of people in their employ were found dead.Examination of the bodies revealed the use of one bullet per body of the sort used in Exitus rifles. Further investigations are not planned.Purely coincidentally the Vindicare Temple Assassin attached to the Cadian 112th went on extends leave citing need for pilgrimage.
>>50292984The law was inplemented after a tech priest and a bonesinger got into a 72-hour arguement that spent the last 15 just screaming at each other. By the end of it, the bonesinger was frothing at the mouth and bleeding from the eyes while the tech priest's head was flaming. It took a team of arbites, a marine, and a visiting inquisitor to seperate them, and as it took place on a craftworld, the area where the arguement took place was quarantined for 3 months while the lingering psychic impressions dissipated.
Mechanicum could still.be a thing, the twin empire within the Imperium.The unified might of all those who venerate the Omnissiah. A massively powerful group within the Imperium.On paper at an rate.Although all Forgeworlds are sworn to obedience to the Fabricator General of Mars it works often on the principle that they will do anything asked so long as they are never asked.Most Forgeworlds were founded pre-Imperium. Most don't much like xenos of any stripe.The one thing that unites them is that they will band together against people outside the Mechanicum. This includes lesser humans.But as the centuries tick tock by each forgeworld grows more and more distant from their neighbours, more and more close to the baseline people surrounding them.There is now great division between the old guard who want to build up those old walls and keep the pleas out and be strictly business and prevent further cultural contamination and those who want closer ties with greater humanity.
>>50276514All of the shit they did in the previous one but also some other stuff.They taught Wazdakka how to use the webway for one thing. They thought it was funny at the time when he and his boyz tore through a hundred imperial worlds with a hundred thousand casualties a piece.When they tore through the slum districts of The City of Sins it stopped being funny and started to become hilarious.
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>>50293566d'awwww. I think.We still need more LCB, though. We always need more LCB.
>>50297753We are at maximum LCB for this setting I think.All he basics of it are covered and I can't think of a way of including more elements whiteout it looking tacky.
>>50299229Wait, how much do we have already?
>>50299396Quite a bit in the previous few threads, even two bits of writefagging IIRC.
>>50299497How many of the threads have been archived? I've saved all six of them.
>>50299608All but the first, and the most recent one could use some upvotes. I'd really hate to lose the Krieg writing.
>>50299740Krieg is on the 1d4chan page, so no worries there. Someone mentioned making subpages to make it better organized and more readable, so if someone tackles that we may want to move some of the other pieces of writefaggotry over, like the one regarding the Emperor's discovery by Malcador.
>>50297753>>50299229>>50299396>>50299497Well here's the screencapped story written by the Miami Mutilator himself about how LCB's like in this AU. Also credit goes to the author for writing this story, its pretty funny about how and why Taldeer hated LCB because of thinking it was from an enemy of her's.
>>50281556Would other Disciplines of Isha receive some form of "blessing" in lesser form than that of Jubblowski?
>>50301868Well what about a young human man who'd pray to Ishy in hopes he'd get good looks and be attractive and have eternal youth like Jubblowski does?And Ish decides to be nice enough to answer his prayers and thus said young man who prayed to her will have cute-boyish looks and is practically young forever. Basically he'd be a male version of Jubblowski but less with the "visions" she gets, but more of he'd be a glorified poster-boy or something that involves him looking good to pose for pro-human and eldar alliance propaganda media. Like Jubblowski.
>>50302874Jubblowski does not get eternal youth from Isha. She gets that from the Imperium deciding she's worth investing renuvenant drugs on.
>>50303937Really now? And I thought it was all magic; *snort* *snort*Also I love that piece of writefagging >>50301149 even if it's not really "contributing" to the plot or lore but just for funnies and a slice-of-life.
>>50286321>>50286321I assume that shit takes place in australia?
>>50297753>>50299229>>50299396>>50299497>>50301149Well if Love Can Bloom and Lofn are also a thing included here in this Nobledark AU.What about this OTHER hybrid child? Thanks to this story: >1d4chan.org/wiki/Hesperax%27s_Petand>1d4chan.org/wiki/The_Princess_of_Commorragh
>>50304134Don't see why not.It does not detract from Lofn as the DEldar are all about the mad science and so Reri Hesperax would probably be a result of this.Lofn remains the only "natural" hybrid child.
>>50291499Dorhai Craftworld. The last pure craftworld.They believe that humanity is a blight on the galaxy made in sick parody of the perfect eldar form and that the other craftworlders were sick fucking degenerates for, as they see it, co-founding an empire with them. They are the last real people in the galaxy and everything else that claims to be a person is a wretched mockery.The Harlequins still visit them so the eldar gods haven't cut ties with them at least.For the most part the Imperium and the rest of the eldar were quite happy to let them sit on their craftworld and be stupid. The good thing about isolationist being retarded is that it tends not to spread.Then they got it into their stupid heads that Jubblowski had stolen a blessing that should have gone to an eldar, preferably one of theirs. Stealing the favour of the gods is an insult the must be punished by death.The assassination attempt failed, their involvement was discovered and now Dorhai is on the Imperium's little list.Biel-Tan are really pushing for full on invasion and conquest of Dorhai. As far as Biel-Tan is concerned there is no Imperium, just a continuation of the Old Eldar Empire that now has a lot of humans living in it. To them the attempted murder of one of their living religious icons is more then enough to call a Holy War.Sister-Superior Miriana Cain, daughter of Jubblowski and leader of ~150 Word Bearers, is demanding to be in the vanguard and whipping everyone into a warpath frenzy. This annoys her ambassador father who is trying to calm the Biel-Tan down.
>>50304477Dorhai better not be led by a Feanor analogue. The noldor love dwarves and enjoy humans, for whatever other faults they have.
>>50305597No, I just have a limited number of eldar pics and needed something with pointy ears.
>>50302874>>50303937Reposting what we talked about last thread regarding the idea of Isha granting people her blessings, though we tried to keep the sappiness level down since this is nobleDARK after all>It would be interesting if in the same way psykers can be soul bound to the Emperor to gain a fraction of his power and will, Isha can grant mortals Memories, her recollection of the heroic traits of the dead Eldar pantheon. A young Eldar boy was found to have been granted the Memory of Vaul when in his first bonesinging lesson he sang a lump of unrefined wraithbone into an exact replica of Anaris, last blade of Vaul and the sword with which Eldanesh challenged Khaine. >It might be that these memories of her old friends and family are in fact the fragments of their souls she managed to save from She Who Thirsts. For this she is hated beyond madness by the Chaos Eldar. But these are living souls and so they need to live. But these are broken souls and they can not live on their own. They live now borrowed lives. There would be a limit to how many there could be as these are only half living fragments.
>>50305850>Not sure if the Memories should be actual pieces of the Eldar gods' souls though. Even a sliver of one would be incredible powerful, since tiny fragments of Khaine are enough to animate a statue into a walking avatar of death. You'd potentially have a bunch of demi-god ubermensches walking around. That's why I think it makes a bit more sense to have them be gifts from Isha: they're really just echos of the lost majesty of the gods, her fading memories of her dead family. After all, just like soul binding, people with the Memories aren't all that powerful. Jubblowski just gets visions, the guy with the Memory of Kurnous is just fast and fierce, the kid with the Memory of Vaul is just good at smithing (though in retrospect being able to craft Anaris as a child is completely OP, so we can remove that).>Sounds about right. Maybe Isha is trying to recreate her old family, maybe she can't let go or maybe she just sees some mortals as embodying aspects of beings she once knew and loved and so believes that they should be rewarded accordingly. As for the Vaul kid, he makes good shit. He is a bonesinger prodigy. He is mortal so his shit will never match that of the real Vaul but when he makes a thing it is worthy of kings. It's also worth noting that when he makes swords they carry a great resemblance, though less godly in quality, to a sword held by an infamous Tau general.
>>50305866>It's also worth noting that when he makes swords they carry a great resemblance, though less godly in quality, to a sword held by an infamous Tau general.
>>50304477... may I ask where you found that picture? It's amazing, but I can't quite make out the watermark.
>>50308193>>50308193Like all my pictures it was stolen from /tg/.
>>50305597I'm imagining it being lead by an Autarch council. They elect from the Exarchs of the craftworld an Exarch to be their ceremonial young king who has final say in times of a tie in the voting and therefor a powerful office but at the expense that he is the one chosen to get the chop next time they need a sacrifice to wake up He of the Bloody Hands.Although farseers are, as always, prevalent in their culture it is only as advisers with no real authority of their own. Oddly in this they resemble the High Lords of the Imperium although they wouldn't be happy for you to draw that comparison.
>>50310298Add to this maybe that the mainstream eldar culture no longer wakes the Bloody Handed one as often.With access to the vast armies of the Imperium and the benediction of an alternate deity the eldar people are calling on Khine less and less. He is saved now for special occasions.A new Beast arising or a Black Crusade type special.
>>50310710d-does that mean he doesn't get Worf'd every 20 seconds?
>>50312960Oh YES.Seriously, an Avatar of Khaine is similar to a strong demonhost, right? I saw one piece of advice for dealing with a demonhost that was something along the lines of "Don't pray out loud, you'll need the breath for running".Khaine may be in pieces, but he;s still an outright Warp God, his manifestations ought to be seriously freaking dangerous!
>>50308193http://breath-art.deviantart.com/art/Feanor-and-Silmarils-374170645Image reverse search is your friend.
>>50312960>>50313803You're safe now Khaine, you don't have to die to show how cool Calgar is in this AU
Single symbol of the Imperium still the Aquila?
>>50314945This time Khine is the nearest he can get to the concept of friends with Calgar.Khine approves of Space Marines.
>>50315679I would say yes because there is no reason for there not to be for the Imperium as a whole.Though I imagine that each unified and civilized world has their own heraldry also.Also the older empires that joined the Imperium willingly would/should have kept their old heraldry. Interex and such people.
>>50310710I really like the image of this. The text, not the pic you posted. Though olde time topless duels are also classy.The great Iron Colossus rumbling to life in times of greatest need, murder incarnate and it's disciples marching to the battle hymns alongside the Emperor's Angels of Death.Given the rarity of it's use maybe it no longer needs blood sacrifices. As they can have a century of unbroken sleep maybe the pent up need to murder shit is enough to get it out of it's comfy chair with out the additional push.
>>50304134>Hesperax's PetHm, the idea of a DEldar having a loving family, with a human none the less, maybe potentially funny. 'Cause pic related.
>>50318252How do Eldar raise their children (In the regular setting)? Are there any differences to normal human raising? Would there be a culture shock?
>>50318452Craftworlders seem to be very "human" in that they have a mother and a father although the primary care giver is usually the mother. They raise them from infancy till they can take their first Path. Then they go off and get their own accommodation and train with the other adherents of that path.Shit seems to vary a little from craftworld to craftworld and I seem to remember reading somewhere the Saim-Hann tend towards extended families ruled by a matriarchal figure or some shit.Dark eldar are by vast majority grown in labs/factories by demand of a gang or house leader. They are grown and raised to be meat for the raids and gang wars and, if they fuck up bad or someone gets too bored, food.Naturally born Dark Eldar are the ultimate status symbol and as such are usually spoiled little shits.Not sure about Exodites although it's probably something similar to the craftworlders.Not sure about Croneldar although I imagine not too dissimilar to DEldar.
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>>50319479meant to link to>>50282227
Question of the hour: How jacked up are Space Marines in this new setting? Are they toned down at all in comparison to the originals?
>>50318577>crone eldarMuch the same as dark eldar, with another significant contingent of warp tainted bastards and beings too much in the warp and too little a living thing to really be called an eldar.
>>50320584They can only get general impressions instead of clear memories by eating brains and this was a trait the jemanic gene smiths were very proud of, but the Warlord was doubtful as to the ultimate value of this feature. Otherwise the crusade era Astartes seem to be roughly equivalent to canon
So did Horus ever amount to anything? I think the only decision made about him so far was that he would be recruited away from earth.
>>50320762Nothing yet, other than the fact he's a baseline human and Voidborn. Maybe he made it to Primarch because he had a (relatively) big fleet and has his canon charisma, and perhaps was instrumental in forming the Imperial Navy
>>50320584In terms of physical ability? A Mk3 MP pattern Astartes is pretty much the same as the vanilla timeline.In terms of political, spiritual and psychological stuff? They are maybe not so grand. Their is no Imperial Creed and so the astartes are not seen as semi-divine. Also in antiquity there was nothing inherently different to being a Primarch.Space Marines for the most part remain a semi-autonomous heavy elite division within the Imperial Army most usually commanded by baseline humans rather than other Space Marines.>>50320762Was an unaugmented Void Born possibly the commander of a semi-mercenary force/tribe that owned a fair number of space craft. Smart enough to have his tribe folded into the Imperium and its army officially and all the long term benefits that it brings.Would have been instrumental in the subjugation/assimilation of Sol.>>50321836The idea that he was a founding member of the Imperial Navy is fucking sweet.
Wikiboi here, after trying to introduce the concept to another player, I only started to realise how fuckhueg and convoluted the 1d4 page is. What do you all think about it - we're definitely sorely lacking a tl;dr summary as an introduction, as well as images - but should we split it all up into seperate pages? And should I get off my ass and start cleaning/spoilering primarchs again?
>>50324076If your exalted services could be petitioned once more for the making epic of Primarch stories then I for one would welcome the making good the story of Red Magnus..In terms of streamlining the 1d4chan page and adding summaries and such other drastic thing I would trust in your judgment as it seems to be more than sound.
>>50324076As an outsider that just finished reading the 1d4 page i say it could be much worse, although i would rather make a separate page for the Primarchs and other unique characters.
>>50324076>>50324163I just took a look, and I think moving the character stuff to a second page would probably be enough to make things more digestible-- just the individual, named characters, everything else can easily stay on the main page for now.
>>50324145Yessir, Magnus'll be along in a jiffy. Hopefully. >>50324163>>50324646So just shifting over the Primarchs to a seperate page? Got it. (I mean, chances are, Notable Worlds'll get their own one once there's enough shit there). That might take some time though, since I can't git on 1d4 where I normally do my writefagging.
OK, what's next then?
>>50327570We await the return of the writefags that was promised.
>>50328812I would like to write somethingBut I don't know what to write
>>50328835There are still untouched primarchs.Rogue Trader Princess Yriel, the fall of Tanith, the saving of 15,000 uncorrupted people and the founding of New Tanith.The story of Eldrad.Tau Empire is almost untouched.Anything about Chaos Eldar and Dark Eldar.
>>50329959Does anyone mind if I have a go at slapping down some Eldrad Fluff or has dibs on it been called?
>>50330987The date of birth of the ancient Farseer is an event lost to time. Assumed to have been born at most a few thousand years before The Fall he would have been considered old even as the Eldar Empire died. Of his early life there are few if any surviving records and his memory is fragmented at best.The loss of memory may have been a result of The Fall breaking his mind, a broken mind would explain many of his later antics, or it could simply be caused by living longer than any other biological eldar. His longevity is assumed to not be natural as an unaltered eldar will live for just under two thousand years and even with the best of post-Fall longevity treatments will struggle to reach five thousand. Eldrad is assumed to be potentially three times the upper limit of known eldar longevity treatments. He is therefore either some sort of mutant or the result of now forgotten and lost medical intervention of the Old Empire. He is long lived but he is not immortal. By the dying of the Dark Millennium his skeleton has crystalized, his face is lined, his eyes grow dim and his hair is white.His earliest coherent memories are trying to warn the general populace of the Home Worlds of the Old Empire to their dangerous folly. By that time they were either too far gone to care or sceptical of his claims. He has memories of trying to organize evacuation fleets and calling in the favours and offering favours to the trader captains to help. The names of the captains, the names of their ships and their faces have dimmed and faded with time. It is possible that they were the origins of many of the craftworlds but now none will know for sure. It was not a time that records survived well.With his precognitive prowess he felt the shape of something not unlike the Old Empire rising up across the galaxy but not of his kin. A god but a mortal made of gold and gold did not rust.
>>50331669Every rune cast, every vision from meditation showed that the remnants of the eldar people would in time come to blows with the men of Earth. Without their gods save murderer and trickster his people would lose their wisdom, what little of it they still had. They would declare war upon the men of Earth and great slaughter would be had. Peace would be impossible.They needed their gods back. Of them the Harlequins sang only one other yet lived and then in captivity and that rescue would always be impossible.This declaration of impossibility did not sit well with the old Farseer. The eldar people had gone through too much, survived too much, to be driven to either madness or extinction. For one who dealt with the sliding scale of probability and the twisting threads of possibility it is possible that he saw this great wall as a personal insult and his mind started to wander down stranger paths.Under normal circumstances none of the eldar people would have dreamed of seeking the aid of the lesser races but these were far from normal times.
>>50331678And so it was that Eldrad found an unlikely ally, himself a relic from a broken empire whose people had been brought low. For the first time that he could remember the old Farseer felt something approaching a sense of family unlikely as that seemed with the great golden eyed giant.The greatest warriors of the eldar were assembled and it’s most powerful seers and warlocks and the humans, as he learned his new friends were called, did the same. With great effort and a derelict and unstable webway gate they tore the veil of reality asunder and the human exarch “space marines” and the young Phoenix Lords charged into the very depths of Hell in the wake of the giant called Steward.Of what they saw in that place none would tell Eldrad though of those that returned all now had the eyes of people who had seen too much and could never look away again. And for an instant, just for an instant, as they stepped back into the world of the living there stood the mother of all eldar for the last time and first time in possibly millions of years. Just for an instant in the flesh and all who beheld her in that moment knew new hope for salvation.Soon arose again the Priesthood of Isha, the daughters of the Mother, Her disciples and from their venerated ranks the one known as Macha rose to prominence and earned herself the honour of being the avatar of her patron in the world of the living. Eldrad recognized the one known as Macha for she was old and also a survivor of the fall but he could not name her or recall her face. He suspected she was distant kin but she did not carry the name of Ulthran, none besides Eldrad in that time did.
>>50331684The thread of the eldar people was strengthened and as he looked upon and forwards through the skein of fate the thread would be strengthened still further by being interwoven with that of the men of Earth. So it came to pass that the radiant High Priestess of Isha and the Steward were joined as husband and wife to formalize the union of man and eldar and the protection and inclusion of the true eldar people into the Imperium.But the theft of Isha had insulted the gods and they were out for blood. Eldrad, as the being who had put forth that plan, felt more than a little responsible. Possibly it was this sense of responsibility that made him refuse to suggest to the craftworlders that they run and let the humans die in their place, perhaps it was the knowledge that the gods would never stop hunting them, perhaps it was that he saw this conflict as a trial by fire for their new Imperium or perhaps he was much like his own people now were. They were no longer a ragged band of refugees surviving off of scraps salvaged from a burned down home, they were Eldar once more. The galaxy had bent to their will once and some stupid upstart gods were now challenging them? They were not so weak as to cower now. Eldar and men were building the galaxy anew. Mortal hands and hearts and heads held high and what mortals had wrought no god would tear asunder.And so it was that eldar blades met the blades of the enemy and Eldrad was aghast to find that the hands that held those deamon blades were not unlike his own. His fallen people, the ones who danced and sang as trillions died and revelled in the debauchery even to the screams of the dying and the damned still lived, if living you could call it.
>So xenos... Apparently our species are friends now. How 'bout you and I get to know each other better, personally? Your thoughts?
>>50332231>>50332272>normal human looking eyes>normal human looking face>not taller than her>its shit, nothing but headcanon and memes
>>50332396Your tears. They are delicious.
>>50332630Well since you started, I'll contribute with waifu-quality eldar women too.>>50332396>Heavy Weapons guy voice: Cry some more!
>>50332662Space elf is best elf
>>50332691Look at >>50281249 for image...Also start posting beautiful human women now.
>>50332691Don't forget! Space Clown Elf waifu!
>>50324081Why is it that LIVVI is taller than Taldeer? Is Taldeer really a womanlet? Does she so happen to be born shorter than an average eldar?I'm guessing the guy and or people behind Love Can Bloom decided to make her less taller since the idea of a person such as LIVVI; A Vindicae Assassin. hugging and snuggling a person who's tall as a space marine or a professional basketball player, even if it were a woman, would look silly and ridiculous
>>50332721It wouldn't work. Their heart belongs to the Great Harlequin. Harlequins are for drunken one night stand clown sex, not waifuing and that is sadness.In the Noble Darkness would there be eldar Inquisitors?
>>50332769>ready for some kinky shit mon'keigh>oh you bet baaby- WHAT THE!?>Eldar Harlequin woman is in full stereotypical clown make up, has a coconut creampie that she then throws at her one night stand lover and honks horn>boner suddenly turns flacid... >then boner's completely gone
>>50332767Given the genetic diversity of humanity in 40k that causes ranges in size from anywhere between 4 foot and 9 foot in height I think it can be assumed that there must be at least some notable range in size among the eldar.Also I think it looks better.
>>50332721>>50332769Imagine Eldar Harlequins doing the recent creepy clown encounter fads and routines you'd see in the web?Or better yet, Eldar Harlequins chasing away those creepy clowns?>FUCKING MON'KEIGH IMPOSTERS! *honk!*
>>50332839This is why harlequins tend not to date outside their own kind.Other people just can't comprehend such an erotic display.>>50332879Maybe they see human clowns as some sort of clown blackface.
So I presume the Crimson Fists exist pretty much untouched in this canon?Because the Battle of Rynn's World is hugely nobledark.
>>50332965Absolutely.Its a bunch of marines holding a city full of refugees against an endless sea of orks even at the almost certainty of their chapter going extinct.
>>50289673>>50291499>>50293566Yeah I did remembered someone suggesting a couple few threads back that the racist separatists went as far as to not only attempting to assassinate people like Taldeer. Bur even Lofn too, the monsters!I'm guessing if Lofn were to host her birthday parties public or even private, or have something like a sleep over between friends. There'd be a security details to protect the place due to another fact of Lofn being a symbolic key and public figure in politics.And when either the human or eldar separatist rebels really have the gall to try assassinating the Imperial and Eldar's greatest and cutest half-breed poster child, they'll fail. Thanks to Unyuufex and Lofn's other pet Tyranids and or domesticated beasts.>"OKAY! OKAY! WE GIVE UP! YES WE TRIED TO ASSASSINATE THAT HALF BREED ABOMINATION, PLEASE JUST ARREST US ALREADY SO THAT YOU CAN KEEP THAT THING AWAY FROM US!">Unyuufex goes; "Unyuu!"
>>50333262Arrest wouldn't protect them from her father. Their only way of escaping him would be to kill yourself first.
>>50333284>Arrest wouldn't protect them from her fatherDon't forget mama Taldeer. If you're one of those separatist rebels who dare try killing Lofn and you get captured arrested by government forces. You better hope you'd be questioned, interrogated, face trial and await judgement. And not face the wrath of Papa Wolf Livvi or Mama Bear Taldeer.
>>50332965>>50333119still, we have the problem of how we make up chapters being a thing
>>50333557I think I'm going to take a stab at the formation of the Space Marine chapters, hold on for a day or two.>>50331669>>50331678>>50331684>>50331749Dope shit, good job anon. Is Eldrad done, or is there more to come?
>>50333664More is to come.Temporary out of brain juice.
>>50333335She has a regiment to command and that binds her.Her pet assassin on the other hand is another matter entirely.
>>50333664There was something in a previous thread about Typhus the Pilgrim and the foundation of the Templar Movement.
>>50333664what i mean is *why* they got split up. Independent detatchments? Temporary task forces that ended up needing reinforcement into their own force? Anything but the codex, anon, PLEASE
>>50335035Guilliman probably put for his mighty tome as a guide on the proper running of the Imperial Army.Typhus the Pilgrim wrote Crusading: The Templar Way.Russ, First High King of Fenris, wrote a short book detailing how to run a detachment of the Imperial Army. It mostly focused on how to direct soldiers with the Canis Helix effectively so it was too specialized to be of much intrest to anyone else.One of Perty's scribes wrote down an instructional book explaining the basics of long term garrison duty that is more or less applicable to any majority human world. It was published immediately after Perty's death as it criticized a few things Perty had done and nobody was sure on how he would react to that.There are rumours that Curze made extensive notes on terror tactics. If true the book is on the prohibited list and not in general circulation.Magnus wrote extensively but mostly on the practical and theoretical nature and application of the warp. Rumour has it he wrote Gods and Deamons; A Spotters Guide that dealt with summoning and binding and applied deamonology. It's totally true. There are 3 coppies. Grey Knights have one copy. KSons have the original. Exorcists have the final copy. Blood Ravens seem to have been "gifted" with an unofficial copy.Angron only wrote shit poetry he never intended to be published. Kharn Oathsworn had to go through his stuff when he died and found the doodle pad he put it all down in. It mostly deals with having to do shit he doesn't want to do and how much his failing biology is pissing him off at time of writing.Sangy wrote down his collected visions that his Legion still sift through.Point is Guilliman wrote the Codex Astartes but never insisted it be followed and most of the Primarchs and other leaders wrote something contradictory. The Emperor didn't give a shit whose method you followed so long as it worked.
>>50335910Yeah, I'm thinking of writing something similar to this. The Codex Astartes is still Guilliman's magnum opus but is a more collaborative effort as he incorporated the best practices he observed throughout the Great Crusade. Instead of ramming it down people's throats, he merely advocated for reforms and let the wisdom of the work speak for itself. legions who initially resisted found themselves unable to deny the logistical and organizational advantages. While legions were effective during the Crusade with focused theaters and frontlines to concentrate forces, chapters come about because of the Imperium's need the flexibility and mobility to face a million pressing threats from all sides.As for integration with the Imperial Army, I'm currently taking inspiration from US SOCOM and NATO structures. We'll see how it goes, I'm sure there will be revisions to this as people offer their opinions for how this should all work.
>>50322824Horus as a pseudo-emperor unifier of the asteroid belt or jovian system with a simmering personal insubordination to the Steward but ultimate loyalty to humanity and the empire. He would never fall, but always have mixed feelings about being primarch beneath the golden man, hold questionable amounts of personal sway over the navigators and navy, and basks in the deification that the emperor tries to deflect. He enjoys his Hermes style legend and over the course of his life and admiralty this is a source of abrasion between him and Emps, and his encouragement of mythic propaganda remains a serious debate in upper imperial government. Still, Horus's Void Wolves maintain a particular mystique more akin to canon Astartes, mostly by an especially close relationship with the mechanicus and retention of some of their more esoteric pre-unification treasures from around sol.
>>50337586Is Horus subjugated, or does he peacefully join the Imperium? Perhaps he demands a legion of Astartes in return for his fealty to explain how a non-Earth Primarch gets a legion.
>>50337586Sounds good.The man that swore loyalty to the Empty Throne because he genuinely believed it represented the best interests of humanity. Was loyal to the Steward because, in his lifetime, the Steward never tried to sit on that throne and that was all the difference to Horus between a worthy leader and yet another despot.>>50339202He would have to have joined willingly and peacefully and have been proven to be very competent at his work to even be considered Primarch material.Keep in mind that in this AU Horus would have been a lanky pale beanpole. Perhaps even making use of a servo-harness to get around when standing on solid ground is unavoidable.
>>50339616last thread there was some mention of Abaddon's arms and steering wheel being recovered and enshrined after a suicidal run on a crone eldar ship while fighting against a black crusade. This was supposed to be in the vicinity of cadia, Horus could pull his own Guilliman mini-imperium in the defence and policing of the eye of terror with his naval legions.
Ferrus Manus, also known as, the Gorgon, also known as, The Master of the ForgePrimarch of the Iron Hands, Manus and his Legion deeply involved with the Mechcanicus, almost to the point where most would consider them a branch of the Mechcanicus military. The Iron Hands greatly favor cybernetics enhancements. By the completion of their training and bodily augmentation, an Iron Hand Neophytes has lost 50% of their original body, and replaced it cybernetics. Usually both arms and both legs, and sometimes their eyes if need be for whatever reason.Being the elite warriors of the Imperium, they accept only the best of the best. That being said, they are one of the few (and possibly only) Space Marine Chapters to incorporate Eldar technology into their cybernetics. What do you think?
>>50341060Pssst, someone has already written a blurb on the Iron Hands viewable on the 1d4chan pagehttps://1d4chan.org/wiki/Nobledark_ImperiumFunnily enough your interpretation is pretty close, the difference being that the Iron Hands are actually super high tech Skitarii instead of being Astartes (which makes sense, since why go through all the trouble of enhancing a human if you're then just going to start lopping parts off).
Whoa there, don't die yet.
>>50340842If he had a mini-empire within an empire thing going it would have to have been built during the Great Crusade as all the Primarchs were appointed during the Unification of Sol.Which is not to say it wouldn't have happened if Horus had a big independent streak, creating his own little fiefdom within the Imperium.
>>50344774Horus and his faction would presumably have had a relationship with the martian mechanicus (whatever it may be worth) and his ships would comprise a significant portion of the early post-unification armada. If he's already an in-system spacefaring power and built into the top of imperial naval command then he could pick and choose the vast responsibility/domain he would bequeath to a successor. A massive naval presence is a granted in proximity to the eye of terror, so to have it be a voidborn navy of the semi-deified Admiral Horus seems a sensible place for the not-arch-traitor to end up. I suppose the result is an endless battle between heroic skeletal space captains and mind-bending demon elves. For his part in the War of the Beast I have a few ideas. Horus could be present in orbital combat but not personally durable enough to take the field, he could be swept up in boarding actions regardless, he could use fancy armor and such to join surface exploits, etc, finding honor or shame therein. Otherwise he might have gone full explorator and pushed too far into the frontier with his best ships to return in time for much more than the finale and mop up, or he may have hung back from the front, commanding the armadas and earning some scorn for his (probably correct) assumption that the death of the Steward and the fall of the forces on earth would leave him in command of the imperium in exile. Also, thinking of all this Imperial navy stuff, I've been imagining this version of 40k has a bit more art deco mixed into the design of its ships and buildings.
>>50331749It was with heavy heart that the old farseer fled the Gate Worlds of Cadid and Ulthwe and for many a centry to come his kin and kind word decry him a coward and a scoundrel. But the flight of Eldrad to Old Earth although one of desperation was not one of cowardice and if any emotion at all still beat in that cold grey heart it was wroth.Eldrad had looked upon the threads of fate as they shifted and saw one thin strand that led to a lasting hope of victory for his peoples. Just one. He needed to be on Old Earth. He didn't know why but the only way for all to survive was for him to be where that hammer was coming down hardest. Even so it was a hard thing to do. Time has weathered their faces and names but he did now have children of his own upon fair Ulthwe. Their names have gone unremembered, their souls never made it to the Infinity Circuit and ever afterwards long past the point when their faces became blurred and forgotten he knew he had left them to die and worse and he cursed himself for it.It was a maddening time in Imperial Palace. Eldrads small ship was shot down by the invading forces and it not so much landed in the Imperial Gardens and crashed. Greenskinned brutes occupied by that point 60% of the Earth's surface, 70% of the population was slain and they didn't look to be slowing down. In truth the forces mustered against basic sanity on Earth put the forces leveled against the home he had abandoned to shame. But this was Old Earth, keystone of a new Imperium, it's walls were so much higher.
>>50347120To Eldrad's relief the Steward knew of the Crone World Eldar, his own court seer Red Magnus having divined their presence. But Red Magnus was young. Brilliant but young. Eldrad was old and even then in relative youth none were his equal and he was at the center of the storm. The heart of the web where all the strings met, Chaos had hounded him but he was now right where he needed to be and the manic grin on his face and the fire in his eyes was terrible to behold.Forces were redeployed and moved under cover of darkness and smoke and illusion, slight of hand was played at an insane level, misdirection and the subtle knife between ribs cost the orks and their puppeteers a heavy price as the line was held with one hand and the knife shoved in the back and twisted with the other. The war had just gotten serious, the Crone Worlders were going to have to work for it and come down and fight for themselves if they wanted this victory.They tried several times to teleport into the Imperial Palace as it's shields weakened, a fact that the turned out to be a trap and all their assassins and berserkers were caught in a withering hail of bolter fire. They tried air dropping Kommandoes and Stalkers and Mandrakes only to find that the Harlequins had been loitering in the place for months waiting for them. They tried digging in with great rock crunching maworms and Digga Krewz and stranger things that slipped between the rocks like impossible smoke. They encountered Magnus. It is probably better not to know what he did to them though they were never seen again.In the end the Palace, now holding approximately 40% of the surviving population of the planet, would have to be taken the Orky way with a mass charge. Here was where the Beast approached.
>>50347237For all his cunning Eldrad had only so many pieces on the board and misdirection and prescience could only stretch that so far. The thin red line before the Eternity Gate was thin and he knew it and they knew it and he knew that they knew it and they knew that he knew that they knew it and they savored his desperation.For all that the Beast approached he could not withdraw soldiers for other fortifications. Every time he was abouts to do so he felt the thin strand they all hung by snapping. The Beast had to attack the Eternity Gates and he could offer no help to stop it. Thrice he had to hold the Steward back for rushing to the gate to led his prodigious strength. The Steward was needed right where he was. No one man could direct the forces across an entire planet and Eldrad knew he would be drowned if left to it on his own.Increasing pleas for help came from the gate. Each more wretched than the last. The Steward was almost in tears, or all the beings in his Imperium few were friends and one was abouts to die and he was letting it happen. When the transmissions went quiet so did the Steward. Cold and quiet and very, very still.Sporadic fire could be heard getting closer and the footsteps of doom like war drums or twin hearts getting closer.
>>50347304When the Beast finally smashed and tore the armored door out of the Throne Room he did not find a selection of cowering generals and fleeing strategists. What he found was an angry Man of Gold cannoning into his face at a flat trajectory like a murder tipped missile.It was a hard fight. Perhaps the most brutal and savage that there ever was. The Steward was a Man of Gold, a relic from a lost era when men were as gods. Eldrad was a primordial eldar born at the height of their kind and carrying the flame of it like an inferno. But for all that the Beast was The Beast. Empowered by gods too terrible to contemplate and mighty beyond measure. Later tales will tell of how the fight lasted a day and a night but they are almost certainly lies although the old Farseer as he danced and struck had lost all notion of time.Fists that could break buildings impacted on the Green Menace that responded in turn with blows that could fell baneblades. Had The Beast been able to concentrate on a single target it would all of been over. He was too durable, too strong and for a creature of such mass hellishly fast and seemingly tireless. The Steward was also seemingly incapable of tiring but Eldrad was beginning to weary. Days upon days of constant battle and sifting through fates trying to divine the least awful were taking their toll. He would tire and then he would die and then the Steward would die and then his Imperium would die and his own people right along with it. It seemed as unstoppable as tide and time.
>>50347443And then the Farseer noticed an out of place thing buried in the Beast's chest. A broken sword blade that must once of been of elegant design.With the last of his strength the farseer channeled his fire and his lightning into that blade and grasped it in his mind and drove it deep into the Beast's chest and twisted. The Beast collapsed in agony, spasming on the floor as the agony wracked him and the old farseer looked over him as he fell and stared him straight in the eye and didn't stop twisting until the struggling stopped and all that was left in that monsters chest was broken up charcoal.Exhausted the farseer fell to his knees. The last thing he saw before the darkness overtook him was the Steward holding the remains of what had once been an angel. The worst of the fighting on Old Earth was well over when Eldrad awoke once more.The war was far from over, but the back of it had been broken.Eldrad returned to his people, much to their annoyance. It was a long time before they would forgive him for abandoning them, although those in authority knew his reason well enough.>And done. Is it archive worthy?
>>50347527>page 9If silence is damning I didn't think it was that bad.
>The Dark Eldar The 'Dark' Eldar are Eldar who refused to ally them selves with Humans, they retreated into the 'Ghoul Stars' in the Eastern Fringe. The Dark Eldar rarely leave their secluded enclave, only emerging to collect slaves and resources. The few expeditions to ever attempt to explore the Ghoul Stars have never returned.
>>50347527Back late, but that was fucking brilliant.Few questions though, both about that and for the rest of the thread/setting, to keep things consistent - what is the whole chronology of the Eldar Alliance? First contact, WotB, panty raid for Isha, marriage with Steward, etcThe way I'd hc'd it is:>Eldrad and co generally help humanity's rise, manipulating shit behind the scenes to keep the Great Crusade relatively comfy.>WotB was orchestrated by DEldar (to toy with their cousins and see how willing they were to protect their human "pets") and Croneldar (to downright crush both "Gud Gaiz")>Craftworlders do their best to slow the Beast, hamstringing some ork forces and delaying others, but is still pretty much just pissing in the wind>Bad Eldar suddenly raid Craftworlders who thought they were getting away with their keikakus and are really unprepared, which both Bad Eldar factions (mostly Dark) find fucking hilarious>Eldrad realises that unless they unite properly, the Bad Eldar'll steamroll the IoM, then get bored toying with the craftworlders and crush them too, then leaves for Terra with an attack force.>arrives mid-Battle of Terra, pic related>jump straight into battle>Eldar are relatively hard counter to Bad Eldar, a few humans see glimpses of impossible grace and psychic fire in battle but are somewhat preoccupied>eventually carves his way to the Imperial Palace, saves emps>IoM reinforcements arrive (I like to think that the Beast got to Terra with the element of surprise as most forces were fighting on other fronts).>Steward diverts a sizable chunk of them to aid Eldrad's lot who are already racing back to their craftworlds>Get there, save the day, but quite a few (especially the smaller ones) have fallen>Eldrad suggests Isha raid as beneficial to eldar ("we kinda need something going our way, how about we get our fucking godess back") and humans ("give chaos a big fuCK YOUUUUUU and get these spehss elves on our side")
>>50349152No, they still live in the webway and cower under the calculating gaze of Vect. Vect, lord of Commorragh, is married to Aurelia Malys, arch-witch and queen of the crone worlds in the eye of terror. Read the previous posts.>>50348946I dig it, but I thought the alliance was formed prior to the War of the Beast
>>50349533(me)never mind, misread it
>>50349171>>Eldrad suggests Isha raid as beneficial to eldar ("we kinda need something going our way, how about we get our fucking godess back") and humans ("give chaos a big fuCK YOUUUUUU and get these spehss elves on our side")In all previous threads the raid has been the first act of the alliance, taking place early in the great crusade and shaping the species' relationship for millennia onward. The Eldar and Imperium are already cooperating before the war of the beast, and that war is a joint retaliation by the ruinous powers for the successful rescue of Isha. Thinking about that, would the focus on the eldar and Isha on the imperial side lead Nurgle and Slaanesh to greater activity and prominence for chaos?
>>50349658Huh. Then how did everyone else get so chummy with the alliance and just casually accept them all being a thing? And how were the IoM convinced to do the raid?
>>50347527Good work homie, my only quibble is regarding the detail of the Battle of Terra. It seems that if the garrison guarding the Palace is 40% of the remaining defenders by the time the Beast attacks, the planet would have already fallen regardless of whether the Beast dies or not.>>50349171>>50349533Yeah, the freeing of Isha is actually the catalyst for the WotB rather than the other way around. It pisses off the Chaos gods enough to stop squabbling and team up against the new Imperium, which they start to take seriously as an actually threat rather than just another upstart empire.
>>50349752The Steward is a fundamentally different from the Emperor, being a Man of Gold from the dark age of technology instead of a surly gestalt shaman, and the primarchs are an order of unification era heroes turned super soldier instead of being posthuman man-children with daddy issues. If you're gonna wrirefag it's worth reading past threads.
>>50349752Presumably Eldrad gets in touch with the Steward, telepathically or otherwise, and the Council of Nikaea is where the idea of the alliance is proposed by the Steward to his gathered Primarchs and debated.
>>50274541Didn't someone say Eldrad himself wanted to have some one-on-one personal fun times with Jubblowski? I certainly hope Eldrad gets some with her ;)>>50349864Why did I read that as Ikea? I almost read that as the Council of Ikea
Image for shits and giggles.
>>50332231That sister's cheating. She's wearing high-heels that make her look taller. If she were wearing footwear that ain't high-heels, that eldar babe would be the one towering over her.
>>50332706>post beautiful human women>posts kebab
>>50350035He wanted to but it will never happen.Jubblowski's vision only happen when she is pregnant because that is when she is closest to Isha.Eldar and humans are not biologically compatible without a lot of work from the Adeptus Biologicus.He was sent a letter informing him that his request had been given all due consideration but such a union would be a waste of time.He sent back a reply stating that it wouldn't be a waste of his time.The sisterhood was unamused.
>>50350319Let Foxy Grandpa Eldrad dip his fingers on Jubblowski
Useful information on Eldar x Human>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Illiyan_Nastase
>>50349171Huh. Fuck. Loads of this *is* conflicting with our psuedo canon and some seems less HC and more wishful thinking, but...>Eldrad was lowkey looking out for the IoM before they found out about Eldar being a thing>DEldar joined in the WotB purely to fucc with those whiteknight craftworld wimps>WotB was kind of a watershed in the alliance, as it was the first time craftworlders really had to blood themselves and step in to protect their allies>Some of the smaller craftworlds DID get wiped the mcfuck out when Eldrad came to the Steward's defence, since they were left with limited protection>the whole outlook towards the IoM changed. Part of the reason why some craftworld(er)s dislike/hate the Imperium and their eldar palsI like this, wanna keep
I had an idea for a Space Marine Chapter made up entirely of Hybrids via joint efforts of the Eldar, Mechcanicus and possibly Magnus the Red
>>50350842We did mention a few threads ago that having too many hybrids cheapens the fluff we have regarding the Starchild prophesy, who is supposed to be the "impossible" child of Emps and Isha.
>>50350842It might be a Biologicus bio-construct warrior order built on the lines of a Chapter but they would not be Space Marines.Genetic compatibility of the gene-seed is not changed. It is made for humans and most humans can't take it.Magnus the Red has already co-founded the Grey Knights and founded the Exorcists and Thousnad Sons. He doesn't need another thing.
>>50345738>he may have hung back from the front, commanding the armadas and earning some scorn for his (probably correct) assumption that the death of the Steward and the fall of the forces on earth would leave him in command of the imperium in exilethis seems to sit on the line between honest and mutinous, and definitely works in a tension for Horus without making him overtly insubordinate or licentious. On the other hand, it of all the options seems least like canon Horus.
>>50352644Or its possible he already considered Old Earth lost and was planning for the rally around another world or fleet.But he was also Void Born so maybe he just assumed that it was inevitable that worlds would be lost and that humanity was destined to become nomadic.
>>50352644>on the line between honest and mutinous>without making him overtly insubordinate or licentiousdid you mean: literal vanilla 40k girlyman>>50352840>just assumed that it was inevitable that worlds would be lost and that humanity was destined to become nomadic.I really, really like this and the angle it plays
>>50352574>you're a big beastt. ollanius pius
>>50353326>did you mean: literal vanilla 40k girlymanOnly if he suddenly became Lord Horatio Nelson
>>50353326>did you mean: literal vanilla 40k girlymanHey, in fairness he only did that because he genuinely wanted to preserve the imperium, rather than trying to become another Emperor. Honest. Honest...?
Is Jubblowski actually from Cadia with the whole purple eyes thing?
Have we made any lore involving the navigator houses? I'm unclear on where they fit into the unification and how important they are to warp travel and related webway matters.
>>50355724Didn't the writefag working on Corax say he had some stuff on the Navigator houses? Don't think he's showed up since. I'm also curious how many writefags we have total in this thread.
>>50351039>>50351063Welp, I'm out of ideas.
>>50350296Fhak u! Kebabs, especially Kebab women, can be beautiful and cute too.
>>50357990some kebabs can be cute, yesthat still doesn't make them people
>>50354607>huge-titted qt with purple eyesDamn
Random thought, how much more advanced would the tech be in this setting? Presumably not hugely more so, since in-universe the Imperium is too large to modernize quickly and the Mechanicus is still a conservative element, and on a narrative level we don't want to buff the Imperium too much. However, things that are lost in canon 40k like jetbikes could still be around right?
>>50360092I would say Tec tech levels remain the same.
Quick bump time! What's the Nobledark story for this image?
>>50361072Two eldar find a small lost human. Trying to get coherent answers so as to reunite it with the correct members of it's kind. Small human is being annoyingly emotional.
>>50361351Actually...>see pic related
>>50361375And this is why /tg/ can't have nice things.
>>50361639For some reason I see Natalya Poklonskaya as the type of person who'd never wana be in a relationship with or date a commoner plebian such as anyone else. 'Cause for some I reason I see her as the type of woman who'd only reserve herself for a significantly notable and important good looking and charming non-human male who's better at everything than any human male.Other words, I'd say she'd date and be in a relationship with an elven archmage of sorts
>>50359314Whose affections are reserved for royalty and the greatly accomplished, both of which rule you out.
>>50363364also applies to>>50362017>>50361639
>>50363833>>50363364It's more to do with Jubblowski cashing 3 wage packets to say nothing of being an eldar religious icon.The Commissairiat, her original employers, for whom she still makes the morale enhancement posters.The Inquisition who pay for her healthcare in exchange for continued prophetic visions.The Bene Jesuit sisterhood who provide her with spending money and a more than basic standard of living.She provides her much demanded to the aristocracy because it breaks up the genetic monoculture, gives the sisterhood a way in to governance and keeps continuity of Imperial stability.She is the ultimate courtesan in the highest echelons of the highest courts, the standard of human beauty princesses try to attain and the masturbation fantasy of seemingly half the western Imperium for nearly four centuries now.Her most famous currently alive two children are;Sister Superior Miriana Cain of the Word Bearers.Katrina Jubblowsdothar of Fenris. Daughter of Lukas the Trickster and currently senior Skald in the Fang.
>>50310298The dick head holding that octopus is probably dead.
>>50357990Kebab girls are just jews that think they're half as human as a man.
>>50358024>>50365581why hello there /int/
>>50365823Blue Ringed Octopus.
Cats are important.
>>50365823It's a Blue Ring octopus, which is basically the Poison Dart frog of the ocean.
Would it make sense from a narrative stand point to have Corax be an unaugmented human former slave and rebellion leader from the occupied lands of Sino?To rise in the esteem of your fellow downtrodden to the point of rallying them to open rebellion would not be something a callow youth would be capable of doing. This would, like Guilliman, put him past the age of possible Space Marine treatments.It would also allow him to walk among the people unnoticed which plays in better to the Raven Guard stealthy warfare.
>>50369151If you're the writefag working on him, it's up to you and what you want to do with his story. I think you'd be surprised with what a teenager can accomplish with a bit of competence, moxie, and charisma though. Off the top of my head, Joan of Arc died at 19 after beating up the English, Augustus led 3,000 men into Rome and was inducted into the Senate at 18 or 19, and Alexander was 20 when he took the throne. Obviously Alexander and Augustus had it a bit easier since they inherited power, but you could have Corax have some hereditary authority if you want to go this route.
>>50369622and corax wouldn't have -4STR holding him back, either
>>50365823Blue RInged Octopuses are the most deadly animal in Australia, once you're envenomed because you acted like a dick head and picked it up, only for it to bite you: basically you're fucked. No one can help you.
>>50369622Joan of Arc had the advantage of being extremely pretty and talking to God. History well records her fine legs and well formed breasts.If I survive today I will try and write some Corax.
>>50372689God speed anon
>>50373397Hey, that's not how you say it in a 40k thread!... though I'm blanking on a precise Imperial equivalent, and I just remembered that the Imperial faith doesn't exist in Nobledark.Ignore me.
>>50373397I have survived today.As soon as I have eaten and walked dog writefagging will happen, though I make no guarantee in terms of quality.
>>50375525Nah, senpai, it's AnythingButTheEmperorOrTheChaosGodsspeed
>>50333557Could always go with "Regiment" instead of Chapter, and give the SM's a sort of romanticized Foreign Legion vibe. A regiment is generally the largest formation of troops a single soldier really identifies with, hence regimental standards, flags, colors and traditions.And since Space Marines in this setting are recruited from all across the Imperium (?) them identifying with their military family would make sense when they're countless AU's from home, hence the "battle brother" bit.In that vein, Do eldar ever serve with the SM's? DO the greatest human warriors and soldiers ever catch the eye of an Aspect Exarch?How close are the Eldar and Humans in this brave new Imperium?
>>50378752It varies hugely between chapter, world and craftworld.Officially no xenos are allowed on Old Earth without a permit but the rules have been bent when the need arose. The Dark Carnival and it's members were all given permits retroactively.Krieg typically shoot xeno trespassers on sight.Space Marines if left to garrison or serve with a particular world almost always go feral eventually. It's usually the most practical option as the years tick by and they start recruiting from local stock. They become part of both the planets PDF and it's IG regiments and alternate between serving each as the greatest need dictates.Eldar typically do not serve in the Imperial Army but as allies of the Imperial Army. Most notable exception being between Ulthwe and Cadia that are basically inseparable.Typically a human will still more likely than not go from cradle to grave having never seen an eldar. Although most eldar will have met at least one human in their lifetimes. This is more due to how long an eldar lifetime is and the difference in numbers between human and eldar populations than it is any coherent attempt on an interstellar scale to deliberately keep people apart.
>>50379233I think Space Marines would rarely ever stay on one planet for any extended period of time, given that they are some of the rare few humans given access to the Webway. With such a huge strategic mobility advantage, they would most likely always be on the move, going to the hotspots where they are needed the most.
>>50379602No, SM don't have access to the webway unless it's an emergency, otherwise its limited to Inquisitors, GK, and the Eldar themselves. Only peope not allowed who have used it were the Kriegers, and it was an emergency because a craftworld was in danger, and even then the Eldar were salty
>>50377700Towards the end of the Wars of Unification the Despot of Ursh and remnants of the Pan-Pacific Empire united out of desperation although for that desperation they were no less ofrmidable.In the lands of Sino were to be found huge tracts of the richest and most bountiful fields on all of Old Earth in that time and with their produce a seemingly unending number of fighting men and near-men and once-men could be maintained. Those fields though bountiful were tilled with the blood and sweat and breaking backs of a slave caste that knew nothing of war and cared nothing for conquest and whose eyes were cast firmly upon the ground as those that dared to look up were so often the worse for it.It seemed the Warlord knew that any attempt to invade that place by conventional means would be bloody in the extreme; to his own men, to their men and more tragically to the people he was trying to liberate.Ursh had been pushed back and pushed back until it was now one diamond hard core of resilience. Conventional war was to be avoided and Curz's methods of unconventional war were not to be considered.All that could be done was stand at the border and wait. Although the Warlord could not get in the Despot and his men were contained. Victory by weight of probability and time was assured but time for change to occur would be glacial and all the while suffering and death would be had among the downtrodden masses. Death by time or death by the blade, neither option was palatable.And into this unhappy standoff Corax, the one who would one day be known as the Stormcrow, arose.
>>50380698Uninformed and downtrodden as they were the slaves of Sino were far from stupid if only because stupidity was far from a survival trait in their harsh world. They had hear of the Warlord, they had heard of his new Imperium and they had heard of the freedoms it offered. They wanted that. Few would dare try to run the border because of what the Urshi would do to their loved ones left behind and what the foul men of the Khanate did to those they found running away.Among them arose a man from the factories who had spent too long toiling for cruel masters and starving whilst his oppressors feasted. His family were dead by one means or another be it contagion, sport or ritual and he was left with critically little left to loose.His job afforded him a basic but working knowledge of alchemy and reaction and he often handled equipment that was only considered tools rather than weapons because of how it was used. Corax was a very angry man but also a very cunning man whose anger was tempered by age earned wisdom and set for the long simmer rather than full boil. This was good as he was surrounded by a lot of other very angry people who also needed to be taught that patience and anger could work very well together.By simple but time trusted methods of communication the words of rebellion spread. It was not without cost or casualty but those sufferings were just more fuel for the long burn of hate. It is possible that the rebellion would have died in it's infancy but for the forces and resources and attention being diverted to the borders where the Warlord circled, waiting for some weakness to show.
>>50381078When the hammer finally came down it was like half the nation caught fire all at once. Caught unaware vast numbers of the fearsome warriors trying to out stare the Warlord at the border were frantically pulled back to keep the heartlands in good order. Perhaps this was a miscalculation on the part of the Generals responsible for the descision. Certainly the Despot thought so if the flayed and violated but still somehow living bodies of those generals adorning the palace walls are anything to attest to.With the sudden depletion of massed soldiery on the borders the tables had turned sufficiently to make conventional invasion a realistic possibility. And at the head of the vanguard was Angron whose account of the first battles would have made historically important reading had he been persuaded to write anything down about it.Caught between the forces of Corax and his merciless insurgency who knew all about cruelty and the forces of the Warlord that were as unstoppable as the sunrise the forces of Ursh were driven from the lands of Sino to their last strongholds where they licked their wounds and waited for the end that was not slow in it's arrival.The people or Corax, freed for the fist time in time beyond living memory, looked towards the ordered and disciplined (except for Angron who had to be sedated) forces with wary eyes. They were not slaves now and would never bend a knee to a man again.Corax, to his credit, did know that there was a world of difference between taking an nation and holding it. His people were brave and tenacious and could be vicious when provoked. But he knew deep down that they could not run a nation and all would soon descend into anarchy at best and re-enslavement or death at worse.When the Warlord strode across the quietened field of victory towards the Stormcrow Corax could see in his eyes that it was one man greeting another as an equal, brothers in battle and free men.
>>50381345Corax knew he would need to use what temporary authority he had as leader of a victorious rebellion to direct his people into a cohesive whole now that the immediate threat was removed and the Warlord knew that they were distrustful of outsiders and wouldn't take kindly to direct orders. A compromise was quickly reached. The most competent seeming of Corax's people would be given positions of authority in the newly freed nation but would also be provided with advisors and assistants from the newly formalized Administratum on loan for as long as they were wanted.It was not long after that the weathered man that was Corax witnessed the final and lasting death of the Ursh and ever afterwards was he disappointed that he didn't get to deal the killing blow.As Old Earth was brought to a new golden age the now Steward's eye turned upward to the inky black. To the far places of Luna and Mars and the Jovians and further, so very much further.He knew he would need men he could trust in both loyalty and competence. People to act in his stead. Of these twenty most gifted and proven individuals Corax was one. When it came to covertly setting traps and ambushes he had no equal. Sadly he was well beyond the age when super soldier treatments become a viable possibility to say nothing of the two prosthetic lungs Imperium loyal tech-adepts had gifted him to undo the effects of thirty years of toxic fume inhalation in his old job. He did receive some discrete cybernetic enhancements and longevity treatments but nothing that wouldn't allow him to pass as human.
>>50381586The skills he had learned and instilled in his new legion were of great use in the Unification of Sol. One of the earliest and most charictaristic victoris was when the dissidents breaking away after the Magi of Mars pledged alliance to the Empty Throne swiftly found themselves making considerable compromises as their air recycles all spontaneously exploded. Ever a man of the people Corax would always choose the path of least collateral damage over expediency or personal safety.As the Unification of Sol turned into the Great Crusade Primarch Corax found that there were all too many kindred souls enslaved on distant worlds to terrible masters, some human and some xeno and some hideous beyond categorization.Although the Raven Guard did posses Astartes soldiers (favoring a more refined version of the earlier model rather than the latter models) they were only typically used for the killing blow. The bulk of the Legion was mere mortal men who were far more adept at cover tagging of targets and walking among the downtrodden masses unobserved. When the Space Marines were called in and the fireworks went off the action was intense, devastating and brief. Quick decapitations with little mess were what his legionaries prided themselves in and it served them well. The people of the worlds they liberated loved them. The Men of Earth, that legendary birth world of humanity, had come back to save them and it was joyful.But of Corax no rest was had in celebration or revelry. If his victories had taught him one thing it was that they were necessary and they hadn't run out of worlds to free. There would be no rest till they reached the edge of the galaxy and all the worlds in between.
>>50381791And that's as much as I can do. It is late and I am tired and I have another hard day of work tomorrow to rest before and we are now up to the War of the Beast more or less.If someone else wants to carry on be my guest.If I fucked up too hard maybe it can be fixed before it goes to 1d4chan. or maybe it can be scraped entirely.
>>50381823Pretty good, just needs some editing so that it flows better
>>50381791>>50382375Agreed, needs editing for grammar, but the story's good.
Plz still be here when I get back.
>>50386628Gonna be dead.
Just a bit more
>>50387110One last bump before finishing the Corax, inept as it is.
>>50386628story behind pic related? apart from waifufagging?
>>50390860Just one taken from /tg/ years ago.
>>50381791>And now for the continuation nobody asked for.The Raven Guard in their way operated in a manner mirror to that of the Night Lords in those hopeful days of the Great Crusade. The Night Lords would terrorize and scatter and slaughter but leave the technology and architecture of a world intact in preparation for a killing blow, the Imperium had no shortage of people and a replacement population could always be brought in. The Raven Guard preferred to destroy infrastructure but spare those who knew how to repair and maintain it in preparation for the final strike with the certainty that expertise could not be easily replaced. The Raven Guard argued that the entire endeavour of the Great Crusade was to save humanity, not slaughter it. The Night Lords agreed but saw no point is loosing sleep over the loss of individual humans sacrificed for the good of the whole.Both rival primarchs despised one another, both raised good points, both were most effective when fighting in concert with a more direct Legion or similar fighting force and neither were openly brought to heel by the Steward because both were undeniably effective. Twice, in the days of the Great Crusade, the Crow and the Haunter came to blows although their Legions never went to war against each other. Barely.When the Beast arose among the orks and the Great Crusade ran into it's equal and opposite the nature of the Raven Guard changed. Just as the Night Haunters were occasionally called in, to their disgust, to protect refugee convoys so were the Raven Guard called in to euthanize populations contaminated irreparably. To say that Corax found these orders distasteful would be a gross understatement. Out of all the Primarchs it was Corax who was first to outright disobey a direct order from the Steward. He would not bring nuclear fire down upon a civilian target. He and his men would not abandon their principles, not even in the face of annihilation.
>>50392613It was upon the fate of the once thriving cultural hub that was the planet Azoth that the Raven Guard made their stand. The world was infected but they believed, they knew in their heart of hearts, that it could be saved. The force to retake it was led by the Stormcrow himself who needed to show the Steward that no such drastic steps needed ever to be taken.Upon that world something in the heart of Corax died at what he saw. At the barbarity and the debauchery and the unholy violations he could never of dreamed of, not even the most depraved Despot of the Urshi could have dreamed of. ██████████████████████████████Data Expunged. -][- . Hydra Dominatus.████████████████████████.Never again, the Stormcrow vowed, never again would he inflict such cruelty for the sake of human pity and the bleeding conscience of one old man. Indeed the primarch did feel old and in some way untouchable by rejuveneant treatments did look it now more than ever. Azoth was sterilized with atomic fire, a monument to all that should be reviled.For the sense of well being that it cost one general the Imperium did at least learn of the Chaos Eldar earlier than they otherwise might have. Despite his disobedience Corax faced no censure from the Steward for showing pity and sorrow in his work, if he had shown joy then maybe things would have gone rather differently for him but the Steward would not punish a man for being human.
>>50392876For the most part the Raven Guard served in the War of the Beast with great valor an uncommon cunning striking far harder than their numbers would suggest. Their greatest ally, they would claim in later years, was the orkish nature to infighting when their leaders were removed. Whole sub-WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!s would grind to a halt as Nob after Warboss was subject to fatal ambush and inhumanly precise assassinations. Purely against the orks it is possible that the Raven Guard had no equal.But it was not purely against the orks. Children of Chaos were abroad and of them the Raven Guard could not out maneuver readily. The forces of the dark gods reaped a heavy toll as hunts were turned inside out and the weakness of using so many mere mortal men was exposed. Astartes, it was often claimed, knew no fear, but baseline humanity did and that played right into the hands of the Croneworlders.It is unknown how many of these sworn to service under Corax fell. Many who venerate the Stormcrow Primarch would claim that none did but they are blined by pride. The numbers are hard to tell in a legion that so loves the shadows and when they struck it was from a direction those in command did not see coming and so the wounds were felt all the deeper. Exact numbers may never be known beyond "too many".Perhaps it was having to deal with these traitors, perhaps it was getting mired in a war of attrition against the orks or out outmaneuvered buy the fallen eldar or maybe some combination of all three but Corax and all save a token force of his vanguard, like his old rival, was not on Old Earth when Sanguinius died and the great Beast was slaughtered. Some blamed him but none so much as he himself did.
>>50394667The wars of reconquest and the rebuilding of the Imperium was not a war that the Raven Guard were well sited for. Their primary means of warfare was one of carefully stalked targets and swift simultaneous executions. The reconquest of the Imperium with it's muddied waters and sliding scales of loyalty was something they found difficult to adapt to and in the years that followed they lost nearly as many as they did to the Beast's predations.By the time the Imperium was stabilized and looking even anything like it had once done the Raven Guard was a shattered remnant of it's former glory and it's primarch was almost broken. Corax had seen too much he held dear despoiled, to many dreams crushed. The Steward tried to comfort him but his kind words fell upon deaf ears. In Corax's mind the Great Crusade, the greatest accomplishment of the human species, had failed and he had maybe played no small part in that failing.To his credit he never let his sorrows interfere with his work. The Raven Guard was built up far more modestly in scale and in the place of a Legion a hundred Chapters were built in the centuries that followed. By the time that the last of the first commissioned chapters was declared ready for duty Corax was an old withered man. His early life had been hard and he had started on the rejuvenants relatively late in life and it showed.Of Corax's ultimate fate the truth is unknown. He would, in those ancient times, travel between the newly minted chapters to inspect and advise and occasionally accompany on missions but like always he made few aware of his movements and would often drop in unannounced and leave abruptly. Which chapter he last visited is up for debate as many records are contradictory at best and nonsensical at worse but all is known is that one day he just vanished.Some hold out hope, even unto the Dark Millennium, that the Raven King will return.
>>50394936And done.It took longer than I wanted and didn't turn out as good as I wanted but there is my attempt. Feel free to do better.
>>50332662>>50332691>>50332721Cant believe y'all forgetting another good waifu.
>>50394971Not bad, not bad at all, though I'm not sure the Steward would directly order the use of nukes on civilians. Maybe Corax decides on that himself when he realizes it's the only way, so that it's even more soul crushing for him?
>>50395331>cat and mouse game between inquisitor and deldar qt>awkwardly get in bed with each-other>deldar is now slowly turning into a 'reliable' imperial asset Writefags, I have a mission for you.
One last bump against the coming archive. One last post, forged in defiance of fate.
>>50390430>>50394971Only had a chance to skim it, but seems pretty good. Fear not, once it's across on the 1d4 I'll give it some polish if I ever get around to Horntits Did Nothing Wrong
>>50395812That would probably work better.
>>50289673>>50291499>>50293566>>50333262Hey guys. I'm the guy who suggested the idea of human and eldar who're rebel separatists who're against the human-eldar alliance because of petty political, racial, religious and traditionalist reasons.I just wana further elaborate and share that the human separatists and eldar separatists are very much different. Yes craftworld Dorhai would definitely be the eldar separatists, while the human ones are disgruntled former military personnel, civilian militias and cunning political members and groups. And both groups would likely fall in the category of, or be considered terrorists due to the actions they'd do against the human-eldar alliance: assassinations/assassination attempts, bombings, disruption of the peace and plain 'ol death threats.Dorhai eldar would do their operations more covertly and probably even be cryptic about. While the human rebel separatists are the more well known and common out-in-the-open types. As in the front line operatives of human rebel separatists do their thing, while the members and associates in the political side and sectors would secretly and covertly provide resources and funding to the front line operatives.Sounds reasonable?
>>50402667>human separatists and eldar separatists are very much different"how many levels of insurgency are you on""like, maybe 5 or 6 right now my dude""you are like a little baby, watch this: k e i k a k u"
I've added the bit about Corax and the bit about Eldrad to the 1d4chan page and created a section called Notable People.I intend to add Jubblowski, Malcador, Serta, Trader Prince Yriel and a few others.Are there any objections or anything?
>>50402888trips confirm, my sides have been lost to the warpHonestly though, I can actually imagine this happening. Like, the seperatist farseers have full knowledge of the human rebels in spite of their super secret handshakes and shit, but just gently chuckle and look the other way because enemy of the heretic is my friend and all that
Sangybro here with another long flight today, hopefully I can get something written.
>>50409422What did you have in mind?
So, human supremacy seems to be a small problem in the Imperium- they're most disorganized, ineffective, or sufficiently marginalized to be only a small scale problem on the whole.But what about Krieg and its Death Korps? They seem to view all xenos with a great deal of antipathy. Not to the point that they declared war on the Imperium, but to the point that they attack xenos visitors to their planet on sight. With them getting more and more clout in the Imperium because the Munitorium love the idea of a fearless clone army that don't mind chucking themselves into the meat grinder without a thought, might those xenophobic ideas get more traction?
>>50350538Consider that Eldrad is possibly ~15,000 and that Taldeer is his daughter and quite young by Farseer standards.Now consider that Serta Ulthran, founder of the Path of the Venetian Doge, founded the House of Uthran as a business entity comprised only of Ulthrans and even then only the select few she felt were dedicated to the cause of ruling all Imperial trade. The mere fraction that she allowed into the great Serene Trade House was somewhere between fifty and sixty individuals.If that was a small fraction then there are hundreds of Ulthrans.Eldrad was the only Ulthran to survive The Fall and eldar do not typically breed very fast.Eldrad it would seem has by eldar standards been very busy with many nubile young eldar for many thousands of years even fathering children well into unprecedentedly impossibly ancient old age and has enough descendants to count as a legitimate eldar tribe all by themselves.And he is still, in every sense of the word, still active. It's possible he just wants Jubblowski so that he can brag that he plowed the most sought after woman in the Imperium.
>>50410208Probably not. Kriegers obey the Throne and all authority derived from it. If Earth has a treaty with the eldar then they will play exactly as nice as the treaty requires and no more.Also Kriegers are disposable tools. Incredibly useful ones but still disposable half-people. Their opinions on anything, and especially anything outside of war, are usually considered worthless.And Krieg is just one planet. Don't go there and everything is happy. Also Krieg is a shit hole so there is no reason to go there.Maybe there is hope that one day they will change. Maybe one day they will heal and soft rain will wash away their sins and their shames. Maybe there is hope for that time but if so it is a long time away.
>>50410208The question is how sentient is Krieg's officer corps in this universe? The bog standard Krieg guardsmen fighting shoulder to shoulder in the trench don't have to have any sort of original thought, but if the Kriegers have sergeants, lieutenants, colonels, generals and marshals in this universe, that demands some more lateral thought. They have to decide which village to fight over, and which to give up. Who gets rations, whether or not artillery should be opened up even if their allies are close, and if those xenos they're working with are trustworthy.If the DKoK are deployed to the world of Bumfuckomis 94 to defend against Dark Eldar raiders, and find some Exodites that insist they are neutral that won't give any help and shoot at trespassers, what happens? Perhaps some other guard regiment would grit their teeth and respect the diplomatic situation, but the Death Korps are like as not to just march into their faggy elf forest and burn it to the ground for the sin of trying to be neutral when humans are dying. Unless of course another guard regiment or Inquisitor is on hand to prevent this. And then what do they think? The Krieger General is just going to accept this numbly, or will he file this away in his brain for the next time this situation comes along, and respect alien ways? Or maybe he'll take the wrong lesson, and decide that these ostensible fellow humans are sabotaging the war effort, and ponder ways to prevent this from happening again. The Death Korps was formed from a genocidal war. Rather than accept a planet going astray from the Throne, the proto-Kriegers nuked their whole world and made it into a hellscape. Compromise is not a word that the Death Korps recognize. I don't know. Food for thought.
>>50403400has much of the Emperor fluff been capped?
>>50409500I'll get back to writing the formation of the Space Marine chapters and other "historical" stuff eventually, but for now I've started some character driven pieces about the Sons of Antaeus and an Arbites investigating a Ctan vampire. Maybe potentially do one about the Fall of Prospero into the Warp and the Legion of the Damned if I have time/motivation.
>>50412211So the Sons were the chapter that started using the custodes Astartes pattern before anyone could tell them not to, right?
>>50410618I guess their Commisars have even more to do.Or they have specialized personel for that stuff, sort of like the AdMech uses whenever they have to deal with non-AdMech.
>>50412577I love the idea of a "foreign" commissariat on Kreig that's been there for as long as they've been brain dead, constantly bringing in new blood as people burn out or become too much like the kreigers to be useful.
>>50412546Sort of, the discussion started there, and I'm going more with the idea that the Antaeus was a ex-Custodes or Grey Knight who went rogue since he felt that either guarding the Emperor was pointless since Emps is a god-like ubermensch or that the Grey Knights should help humanity more actively than just fighting daemons. The Sons are more of a warband than a true chapter numbering less than 200 most of the time.
>>50410728Nothing on the 1d4chan page yet. It would be excellent if someone could go back to the archive and paste the excellent fluff about how Malcador discovering Emps.
>>50415509Done just that but I'm on my phone so it's like reading through a keyhole. Have done it right?
>>50416309Looks right to me.>>50415471I like this idea that the Mk3 S pattern gene-seed was cultivated from his own flesh via mitosis, test tubes and about 50 years. The whole process was not illegal as such but highly unorthodox.I like the idea that he was a disgruntled Grey Knight who thought that their overspecialization was a long term liability on the galactic scale of warfare and that the Only Witchkin recruitment rule was depriving them of valuable manpower.So far is doing okay. That the chapter is nomadic and only consists of 200 members seem barely a success until you realize that they started out with one dude who was only allowed to keep his armour because of his awesome service record.As it stands at the moment it's 200 marines, a small warp capable ship and some vehicles. is doing quite well all told,
>>50347527Not that bad considering how bad it could have been done. If you want context read the last section on the Sandwich story. Shit was dire.My biggest complaint was that it focused on the events that Eldrad moved through rather than on Eldrad, the great manipulator, actually directing anything.>>50394936Very good save that it seems a bit rushed towards the end a feels choppy when read.
Embarking on a lovely big revamp of the 1d4 page, may fluctuate between now and when I'm done. No idea when that'll be. No idea why I do this to myself or how I delude myself into thinking I'm competent at this.On a side note, to all the lazy as shit anons who go "well /tg/ doesn't get jack shit done because nobody can be bothered to organise all the writefaggotry", mcfuck yourself
>>50419531Already the first holes in my knowledge of our own lore showing: >What's our excuse for the IoM not having rekt everything by M41 if the Great Crusade was so quick?>What is the Emperor up to right now? Does he rule alongside the High Lords, or is he on the golden throne for some different reason in our fanon?
>>50419609The Great Crusade was actually slightly slower due to the Steward's tendency to insist that diplomatic action be taken when possible, sacrificing expediency for basic human decency. Great Crusade lasted for over 300 years rather than the main timeline ~200.Imperium hasn't stomped the galaxy into something resembling order because every so often the Orks unite and try to emulate The Beast. Also Chaos. Also 'Nids arrived earlier. Also Necrons started waking up earlier. Also More Chaos.Emperor dictates general policy and sets new precedents. HLoT run the day to day shit. Throne of Earth is where the post gets sent but Emps and Isha spend most of their time traveling and inspecting the Imperium to make sure shit gets done right.
>>50419709The longer GC was strongly advocated for by me, in fact, but even with that and the recovery after WotB, *and* fighting off the dickery of Chaos, AND the occasional Beast wannabes...I feel like 8 or 9 millenia is still quite a lot of stalling to do. Unless we push the 'nids forward a LOT, there's not that much there that can give the Imperium a hard time. Croneldar could, but we don't really have much on them, and at the moment they don't seem to be that formidable compared to CSMs in Vanilla 40k aside from that fantastic piece of writefagging that at the end turned out as "you thought that glorious heroic speech was for those Eldar to give their lives in service to Emps or Isha... but it was me, Slaanesh!". I like the idea of the IoM having to face the full might of the Former Eldar Empire, Now With More Chaos(TM), but depends on if that's consensus yet.Also, aside from that, what's our equivalent to the Astronomicon?
>>50418573Assuming "Sandwich" is Sanguinius, yeah I'm thinking of rewriting or removing a few parts that I'm not totally satisfied with. I am curious to know exactly what your criticisms are though.
>>50420323No. Sangy story is pure gold from start to finish.I meant the ye olde classic /tg/ story of Sandwich, the Drow raised by Dorfs.>>50419910There have still been 13 Black Crusades. Also the Vandire Civil War. Also The Harrowing.Stuff could be rearranged and exaggerated or outright made up at some point to justify the Imperiums current state.
>>50420429The Harrowing?Plus, since the BCs were almost entirely composed of Croneldar, I have precisely 0 idea how that would go down.
>>50420429Ah gotcha. Well, the point still stands, in particular I'm thinking of removing the part with the temptations of Chaos since it interrupts the flow of the narrative without adding a whole lot (other than Sangy's speech at the end that I'm rather pleased with). If people think it should stay I'll leave it.
>>50420485>The Harrowing?A thing that happened in early in the Imperium.Beings of magnetism and metallic dust that came out of nowhere, killed everything they encountered and seemed totally unkillable.Inquisition had to break open all secret vaults and eventually defeated them with a mixture of DAoT relics and forbidden chaos lore and were driven back to wherever they came from.They then spent a long-time deleting all knowledge of the war. Became known as the Forgotten Apocalypse.
>>50422108Any sauce? Not doubting you, I just can't find anything other than something about khornflakes and something else about Xanthites.Also, do we have any impetus for the creation of the GKs? Given that Emps isn't powered by 10,000 shaman suicides this time, would daemonfighting expertise and shit be a good hook to start the Imperieldar alliance? I know the raid for Isha was a big part, but there doesn't seem to be much that the IoM get out of it other than vague "we get new friends" shit.
>>50423437It was 2 pages that get occasionally posted as pics.Reason for GKs? We need daemon killer experts to dream with the deamons no one else can.Reason for going on the panty raid? Eldar would be their allies and chaos can go fuck itself.
>>50423921But I thought it was decided that the panty raid was *why* Chaos hates the IoM, and I feel like just going along straight into the literal heart of Chaos would kiiiiinda need more than "we'll be ur fwends" in a nobledark universe. Idk, might just me being picky.I know the TS are also cited as having been a contribution to GKs but honestly I'm gonna like some Craftdar as part of the impetus as their founding bc I need excuses for lore holes
>>50410618Well, I imagine that they think of it like a battle business, highest gain for lowest cost. Sacrifice 100 here for 200 there. Level these cities here to deny resources there. Abandon (or neutralize) 300,000 civilians here so those two divisions, that armor group, and that air wing can secure the line there, which means this planet is saved. Highest gain for lowest cost. Simple, clinical, cold cost and benefits. Makes sense too, citizens and troops are just another resource to be spent or saved for later in the grand scheme of things.
>>50424041Craftworlders helping to found GKs sounds good. Elder have all the best forbidden and ancient lore.Also Steward had encountered Chaos on Old Earth back in his Warlording days. It was severely detrimental to long-term human survival, it was anti-civilization and it was self aware and intentionally malicious. Chaos started it for funssies, Steward kneed them in the balls and they whined like the little bitches that they are.