Gehenna churns bellow the flashing motes of light as waves of boiling metal sweep over the orbiting ship hulls, radiation piercing through space like echoing gunshots as atomic warheads detonate against armored starship. Fighters pass in rapid streaks ahead of their payloads, leading ferrous slugs of metal and kinetic warheads as they slam into the formed fleets, puncturing armor and rupturing shields. Point defense guns pivot and wait in anticipation as the strike craft hurl past at speeds well above what the naked eye could ever perceive, and with quick bursts of fire cut down the passing ships one by one, turning the tiny ships into charred ash and dissipating chunks of slag shotgunning across the system. The fighters that survive continue on their way, chased by interceptors as the Commonwealth fleet's formation breaks and the ships begin to launch their payloads, firing clouds of medium range missiles and railgun rounds at the decelerating Union fleet closing in on their position in Gehenna orbit.A moment later, the second salvo hits, cracking through the hull of a cruiser with a silent flash of light that sends its armored hull rippling like water as it boils in an instant, and the ship begins to spin, sending water and atmosphere bleeding out into space in a wide arc as in the distance flashing of light sparkle among the Union ships, the attackers' shields flaring like the glimmering teeth of some great animal's maw. Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!>Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone>FAQ ask.fm/QuestDrone>Discussion page http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest_talk:Hive_Queen_Quest
GAS THE SQUIDSNUKE THE WHALESSTAB THE MONKEYSTRUST NOTHING THE VOID IS WATCHING US
>>48676134Time for Diplomacy
>>48676134IT IS TIME.TIME FOR HIVE QUEEN QUEST.
Reminder to check the thinkers locked memories.
>>48676134We really must tell the Commonwealth what we're doing on Gemini.And we really must wrap these negotiations up quickly. I'm sure the Valen ambassdor on Gemini right now is desperately scrambling to get to a Q-Comm to notify the greater Valen clans of this. If he hasn't accomplished it already you'd better bet he'll redouble his efforts when he hears we're trying to get ALL the Expanse worlds including Aral where their hypergate priest currently is.On the upside if we pull all of this off and capture their hypergate priest and then get hypergate tech the Valen will probably respect the shit out of us for our cleverness and dickery until the end of their days.
>>48676304Why?>>48676292I agree on telling the commonwealth about this.
>>48676292We could easily capture Aral planet whether they know about that or not.
>>48676287I fully agree, now is the right time to look at it.
>>48676370But we want to capture the planet WITH the Valen that's overseeing the hypergate construction on it rather than without him.It would give us quite the bargaining chip to any dealings we have with the.
>>48676352>>48676371Because the void is likely to start their attack if we do.
Q&A session with Gemini citizens when?
IT'S HIVE TIME
>>48676134oh, oh dear, are we gonna have to help with that?
>>48676395There is nothing that could possibly be in that thinker that would increase Their interest in us beyond what it already is after Tenebris. This is one of mothers thinkers here, not a void shard. >>48676292Fully second bringing the Commonwealth into the loop about our negotiations with the Union.
>>48676395That doesn't make sense. It's not like the psionic canon, where we're messing with parts of them.We could try to (non-psychically) prob for some info of what it's hiding.
>>48676395They will probably only send ceph raids at us when we read, unless the tinker memories has information on the void gods weakness that they have to manifest on space to destroy us i don't expect them to come.
>>48676134Are you not posting the various tech and resource posts anymore?
>>48676392The only way he could leave so quickly is if they finished the Hypergate.
>>48676500He could have a ship with a canderon-based FTL drive for exactly this reason.
>>48676486This is a continuation to last weeks threads. The week after next will be the next real big thread
>>48676460>There is nothing that could possibly be in that thinker that would increase Their interest in usIt's not about 'interest'. It's about their capabilities, which are dependent on the state of their target.We don't know at what tier of Fucked those locked memories are. They might be at or below our current level, or they might be above. It's a gamble.It turns out they were only ignoring us before because it believed we were not a threat, that nothing could stop them now, nothing!!!And then we stopped the climax of their master plan that has been cooking for like a hundred years at the 11th hour.>>48676486Look at the thread number. it's still the same day as 4 threads ago, time has not advanced.
>>48676506We could easily intercept those.
>>48676134Chaos surrounds your ambassador drone as technicians and officers swarm about the room. Admiral Yogesh stands proudly as he examines the readiness reports of the fleets placed under his command fill the display before him. Several of the monitors along the room's periphery fill with news and alerts as a low murmur begins to wash over the technicians and comm officers, until someone quickly moves to Yogesh with a data pad and a look of grave concern. He takes the data pad and looks at it a moment before going wide-eyed, and with a flick of his finger sends the images to the central holo-display.A vast armada of hive ships floats through the sky of Gemini, casting innumerable shadows across the city as static discharge leaps from ship to ship like lighting, your Hive ship's shadow blocking out what little sunlight there is in the evening twilight as the city is cast in shadow. Klaxons blare and screams echo through the streets over the sounds of distant sirens and the shouted orders of PDF troopers. The camera jitters with static, flickering as nearby advertisement holograms stutter and die, shattering into floating motes of static as their speakers begin to chitter and murmur with a choir of inhuman voices.Admiral Yogesh eyes your drone carefully without tilting his head as your speaker watches the display with veiled amusement, and then turns back to the officer."When was this?""A few hours ago, roughly. The spacetime difference on Gemini is-" Yogesh waves a hand in dismissal as he cuts off the officer."Does Magnus know?"cont.I am very sorry for missing last week's regular thread, but I was quite ill at the time. Very sorry. As for this week, due to scheduling issues I'll be unable to run for very long, and will need to miss next week. Because of this, I figured it would be best to just run a .5 tonight, and save the big 60 for the next full thread which should be on the 21st.
>>48676532Seems like the Commonwealth already knows.
>>48676532...How did they get this footage off of Gemini with the quantum comm shutdown?
>>48676583They only closed off UNION Q-Comms. There is bound to be COmmonwealth spies with their own illegal q-commsYou idiot
>>48676532not a problem QD, its not like we're paying you to do this
>>48676532Hope you get better soon Kill a goat to gain blessings from the gods
>>48676532Breaking my heart here QD but that's fair. Hope your health rebounds.
>>48676532Just do your best to stay healthy and well-rested.please don't go on a hiatus again. I'm not sure I could handle the withdrawal from the drug that is HQQ without you again.
>>48676600You're the last anon who should get to call other anons idiots, anon.
>>48676532pls nonot againthis is how it starts
>>48676532So for all purposes we should act under the notion that commonwealth and valen clans spies have seen our fleet over the planet and will be basing future diplomacy on what happens here between us and the unionWait unity must be seeing this! so what is that nerd saying back on Zero pol
>>48676684I'm sure some iterations of our second/third-favourite nerd are squee-ing while anticipating the repercussions of our opening hand.Before you ask, our favourite nerd is our daughteru of course.
>>48676699Followed by Lee
>>48676532"No. He's still in the middle of his speech." The officer says. He pulls up the stream of the speech, with Magnus gripping his podium like a wrestling opponent as he shouts from a balcony flanked by banners of the Commonwealth's member worlds, all held between several dozen story long Commonwealth flags draped over the face of the building from which he speaks. Beneath him, in the streets illuminated by the light cast back from the spotlights affixed onto the massive eagles of the Commonwealth flags, battalions of troopers march along a parade ground to a number of waiting troop transports. The admiral looks over the spectacle with some hint of disapproval."A bit flashy, but it gets the message across." He says. "Make sure someone tells him after the speech and to contact me as soon as he can." The officer nods quickly and turns to leave. Admiral Yogesh looks you your drone expectantly. After a short moment of silence between you he speaks."You have no obligation to explain your interactions with other nations to us, but I would appreciate if you did." He says.>Write in>>48676683While there won't be a thread this coming week, after that I do hope to get a few midweek threads up before running 60 on the 21st, so hopefully it won't be that long.
>>48676240that is fucking uncanny
I'm not sure what the fuss is about, I assume that anything that one civilization does all the others know within the hour, when it comes to the Human/Valen/Squids.
>>48676831They attracted the wrong type of attention
>>48676831We need to explain why we are getting involved after they asked us to ally with them Explain that the union fucked up with void shards big time
>>48676831Inform him they contacted biblical deamons.That about as close an analogy as we can provide them while keeping their concept of them safely vauge, since knowledge is a gateway.
>>48676831Human politics are human politics.Hive had to chastise the Union for their foolish actions.
>>48676831"The Union made a mistake. A big mistake. We've already the Magnus this much."
>>48676831They preformed the greatest heresy possible and we are now "Negotiating" for releasing the expanse, our ancestral home, to us.
>>48676831The Union has engaged with forces outside it's understanding and has brought the attention of dangerous beings to this section of space. The Hive will deal with this and extract a price from the Union in return. This will be non-negotiable.
>>48676831> resent union actions have increased the hives need for resources so the hive is currently making its claim of the space you humans call the expanse
>>48676831They were stinking up the place. Being unsanitary. Contamination.In human terms, it is classified.
>>48676831Remember when we told you that the Union was placing us all in grave danger? Well, they went ahead with it, and cost the hive dearly in doing so.
>>48676896This, we need to let the Commonwealth know we're trying to gain the Expanse.
>>48676831We should also tell them that we hate Killinger and list off his crimes which include the Mirage incident.
>>48676891Magnus wasn't there, anon, geez. it was Yogesh we told there was a disturbance.
>>48676896>>48676929Nah We cant be seen as expansionary power cause it make the cw think we are going to take over their planets after were done with the scavs And we did say something about the union messing with things big time already
>>48676976Guess I misremembered.
So I know this will be a controversial suggestion but I vote for cloning Seiner.BUT AS A CHIMERABest way to spook KillingerAlso we need to get Lee his abomination-cat
>>48677028May not matter if the war starts today
>>48677008They were expanding into our territory.>>48677028No.
>>48677008>We cant be seen as expansionary power cause it make the cw think we are going to take over their planets after were done with the scavsHahahahaNo. Those will be our worlds, the Commonwealth can come over if they play nice.
>>48676831"Humans have made grave blunders in the Union. This speaker has informed you of this." Your drone chirps. "The Hive was forced to intervene for the safety of all, at great cost, and is now negotiating with the human Union." The admiral looks at you with some suspicion."I ask because helping us against the Union wasn't exactly a part of our deal, and I would like to know exactly what it was they did so we can avoid doing it ourselves." He says.>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'>Write in>Other>>48676851This is a decently accurate assumption. The various established factions have been spying on each other for quite some time, so anything big that happens like, well, everything you've been doing in the past few weeks, will manage to make the rounds in the rumor mill rather quickly
>>48677052>>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse>>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance>>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'
>>48677052>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'
>>48677052>>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'
>>48677052>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'
>>48677052I propose we have the ambassador drone say something like >"The hive has an enemy. One that enslaved the Ceph, the Skyla and a Queen. One that grows stronger the more that is known about him. One that the Union were about to bring into this corner of reality." and to refuse to explain that part of the topic further.
>>48677052>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance
>>48677052>>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse>>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance>>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'And we cannot emphasize just how 'forbidden' this is.
>>48677052>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importanceAlso just tell him "black crystals with strange energy are BAD BAD BAD, do not touch them"
>>48677052>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'The enslaver has seen us, and now it watches.>>48677099Also supporting this.
Should we mention how this same forbidden technology destroyed Luna?
>>48677052We should also express to him we were trying to hide until this point.>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'We should also that they are not our only allies and the Scavs are not our only enemies.
>>48677052>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance>Ignorance is their best protection>Explain that all that have faced the outside menace have either perrished, where enslaved or forced to sacrifice the majority of their existance to escape their view
>>48677152Not yet, let's hold off on that until we're ready to ask the Commonwealth for all data related to the weapon they built there.
>>48677152Probably not. Then they'd know it's also a path to fleet destroying ultimate power after checking the archives.No admiral alive probably remembers the details of the lunar death ray, but they can find out if they have something to cross reference.
>>48676532Damn do I love that imagery of our armada.
>>48677165>theyBy this I mean the Commonwealth.
>>48677052>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'ForbiddenFORBIDDENORBIDDEN
>>48677198Yes, be sure to extra emphasize FORBIDDEN.
oh fuck its back!!! HAPPIEST TIME OF THE WEEK.
>>48677198FORBIDDENOOR RB BI ID DD DE EN N
>>48677052Supporting >>48677099>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance
How about this: we ask them to show us all their super-secret research shit on the promise of us helping with anything that we don't deem FORBIDDEN and on condition of them halting anything we deem so. Offer Scav's FTL drive - full schematics plus a couple of human-style ships equipped with it - as hands down offer, given they are likely to be investigating it already.Do you think they'd be up for that?
>>48677099Nahhh.We should be as vague as possible. White Queen indicates vagueing it up is safer. No identifying specifics about the enemy's associations.
>>48677198>>48677236Fuck, let me try this again.FORBIDDENOORRBBIIDDDDEENN
>>48677052QUEST DRONE MY LORD AND MASTER BEHIND THE QUEEN! How big are thinkers?
You do know that: Forbidden = shiny do want!Unless we explain.I suggest: The closest approximation we could find in you culture without damning you would be the fictional works of one Howard Phillips Lovecraft, just worse by approximately several orders of magnitude.
>>48677099>>48677052I support this. I've never been a big fan of hiding everything from the humans
>>48677323IT IS FORBODEN
FORBIDDENO ER DB DI ID B D RE ONEDDIBROF
>>48677328From the pastebin on hive biology:>Thinker – On their own, the thinker resembles a bloated beetle with a two foot radius. Its entire body is a brain, with no sensory or digestive organs, and no method of independent movement.
>>48677052>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'Also>OtherThe Union has been engaged in varying levels of hostilities against both the Hive and some of its allies, and we wish this opposition to end, one way or another. We have more important threats to prepare to face. Explain along the lines of>>48677099They're going to be very concerned with the basics of who our friends and enemies are, so they can feel that they understand our basic motivations and can trust them.
4chan automatically deletes repeated spaces, those word boxes won't work if you're going to be lazy about it and only do the outside.
>>48677052>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'Bastards woke up the old ones
>>48677377Ah thank you. This will help me a lot.
>>48677323Fuck it, I can't express the degree of forbidden the drone should emphasise that it should be.maybe if I do this:--------------FORBIDDEN------------FORBIDDEN----------FORBIDDEN--------FORBIDDEN------FORBIDDEN----FORBIDDEN--FORBIDDENFORBIDDENORBIDDENRB-IDDENBI-DDENI-D-DENDDENDENENNYes. I think this is sufficiently forbidden.
>>48677418FORBIDDEN to the nth degree
Uh uh, can we do some psycic reiforcement/reverb on the forbidden part, like we do with the radio transmissions.and have a drone hold up a flashlight under the Speakers face, for dramatic lighting.
>>48677495>have a drone hold a lightsaber under the speaker's facemuch more dramatic, and emphasises the "forbidden" with a bit of "we'll give you this if you forget/bury the forbidden thing with us"
>>48677052We cannot tell you what it is, but we know it when we see it.Or hear it.If we had an overview of the topics of your Thinkers' research topics, we could flag it as a dangerous threat. But the information on the topic must be contained.
>>48677520No giving the Humies tech.
How about we offer an incentive? We can offer a reward for all the artifacts turned over to us.>>48677539Not necessarily technology.
>>48677052"The Hive has an enemy." Your speaker says. "One that is from beyond the realm of human perception. This enemy has enslaved the Ceph, the Skyl before them, and a Queen of the hives' own kind. The Union made grave errors in their research, and tampered with forbidden technology that would bring this enemy into our reality." You detect the attention of several of the nearby comm officers, who nervously strain their eyes to watch you as their minds fill with imagined horrors from the fables of their homeworlds."This technology is linked to the contents of the wreckage of the Mirage, making its retrieval vastly more important now." Your speaker says."And you didn't think it was important to tell us about this sooner?" Yogesh asks. Your speaker simply chitters."It is not of your concern."Yogesh examines your drone for some time in silence before looking back to the holo-display."It isn't. My concern is the hostile xeno threat before us both here and now, but this is of concern to Magnus. I think it would do well to give him an explanation of this threat so he can better prepare our fleets.">Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat>Disagree, it is beyond you>No! This knowledge is forbidden>Other (write in)>>48677328Bout the size of a medicine ball.
>>48677558I like the award thing, maybe give them grav plating if they can find us about 10 crystals.
>>48677520you don't go around showboating lightsabers, you have to use them casually as fuck, and say they aren't really that impressive, vibroblades do a way better job.And watch as the humans loose their heads about FUCKING lightsabers!!!
>>48677495Nice thinking, it would be fun to use our psionic abilities when dealing with humans more.
>>48677558We could offer usage of our ability to teleport stuff between planets.>>48677578No.
>>48677052>>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance>>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'
>>48677568>No! This knowledge is forbiddenTHERE IS NOTHING TO TELL OTHER THAN WE CAN TELL NOTHINGOnly the Hive has the capability to stop this threat.
>>48677568>No! This knowledge is forbidden>The threat grows stronger the more you know. We have already said too much, but remember that as long as you don't look into it, it doesn't look into you.
>>48677568>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat
>>48677568>>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threatThere isn't much point of warning an admiral not to fuck with these things if he can't pass the warning on to the guy who actually runs the nation.
>>48677558We're really fucking good at terraforming and it's not as prohibitively expensive (comparatively) for us as it is for them. Combine this with the facts that it's not revealing any technology that they don't have themselves and also public sentiment among humanity is that they're hemmed in on all sides with nowhere new to settle and it becomes the perfect gift.I'd also like to offer it when bargaining with the Union.
>>48677568>>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat
>>48677568>>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat>>Stress that it is a very bad idea to get involved with it.
>>48677568>>No! This knowledge is forbidden
>>48677637Terraforming some uninhabitable worlds inside their systems could be a good way to tide things over with the union as well.
>>48677568>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threatBetter to tell this to the head honcho, or explain as best as we can why we can't tell him anything.
>>48677568>>Other (write in)"The things we which we fight against, gatter their power from the 'know'. What this speaker is saying is...if you knew who they are...they will know who YOU and the humanity are...The hive can't allow more losts. The hive WON'T allow it."
>>48677568"You assume your fleets can wound it, but they can only slow it down to buy time for escape like our ancestors have done long before your species have left the primordial gene pool.">Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat>No! This knowledge is forbidden"It grows stronger the more you know about it, the only way to survive is to be blind, deaf, and a coward."
>>48677637This. Our terraforming and unparalleled medical technology is what sets us apart.We've got gene splicing nanomachines and programmable mutagenic compounds and all that jazzWe could literally go to Sol and turn Mercury, Venus and Mars into garden worlds
>>48677685Technically humanity was meant to be blind.
>>48677568>OtherHumans are safe you do nother need to risk extinction you have helped us enough already
>>48677568>>Disagree, it is beyond you>>48677568>>No! This knowledge is forbidden
>>48677568>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat>Bout the size of a medicine ball.I always imagined them to be the size of a dog, squishy huggable dogs.
>>48677714>turn Mercury, Venus and Mars into garden worlds>mfw i realize Mars was a Skyl world but it was destroyed by the void gods
>>48677644That's basically>>48677568>>Disagree, it is beyond youWeapons and war and fleets are incapable of fighting this battle. Ignorance is your only shield.
>>48677750>>48677685We could show them footage of the Void Beast in Tenebris. Their spies may eventually find knowledge of the event stolen from the Union
>>48677685>they can only slow it downThey actually cannot even do that, unless they can make it to the Ceph homeworld to bomb the Spire.Note that all projectiles simply ceased to have any momentum as soon as they struck the thing at Tenebris. They do literally nothing.>>48677568>>Disagree, it is beyond you
>>48677673Yeah, I think it'd be some good PR for us after all this aggression, show the carrot as well as the stick sort of thing. Doesn't mean we'd be just doing it for free though. I wanna research those sunspot creatures. Does anyone remember what system they're in?
>>48677772>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat>>Have most of the briefing be 'thinking about them attracts them, so don't go telling people this willy-nilly.
We were once a people with one thousand queens across ten thousand stars. Then we met these beings. Then show them a Map of what we know of.
>>48677784I kind of hope we end up at a point where there are Hive controlled worlds with populations of humans, taidaren, freed ceph, Unity Androids, Skyll, Phantoms, Valen, and even Ralighans getting along together
>>48677804Who else thinks this is a bad idea?
>>48677804Only if we blur and censor the Void beast, and hold them at gun point just in case of contamination.>>48677811Don't know how the Ceph spire is important, but i was talking about trowing corpses at it.
>>48677804Seconding this, invite him back to our assigned room and flash some context lite footage of the chaos at Nowhere. Brain zombies, that ranting scientist dude, blurry shots of the thing that came out of the portal and punched Theseus' server ships.Then shut the hologram off, dim the lights and whisper "Forbidden.">>48677871Bad ideas are the best kind of ideas.
>>48677857>"We were once a thousand queens spread across an entire galaxy. Now we are two, and left our home millions of lightyears away when we crossed the space between galaxies."
>>48677860Me too anon me too.
>>48677897Stop this extra galactic memeing you dumbass.Unless you're outright lying to them to puff up our importance.
>>48677888Now that, that is pretty spooky. >>48677860Ditto.
>>48677888I like this, it really doesn't give then any more information and just reinforces the threat. Also aren't humans a blind spot to the void Gods due to the white queen's tampering? So they should only draw attention if they actively Fuck with a shard.
>>48677860Fucking hate how anons keep turning all space civs quests into this
>>48677989It's extremely unfitting for this quest.The only 'peace and happiness' end is where everyone is adopted and doing science. For Mother.
Remember when we negotiated 27th the commonwealth for more calderon (or whatever it is called)? Well whatever happened to the stuff we took off of the Clarke wreck and stashed in a bunker to investigate later because we thought it might be unstable, we still have that right?
>>48678010Well sure, how do you get mass adoptions and science? By having a large and loyal population to draw on from.
>>48676851Jeez, the look on that cucked Valen's face when he realised some random fags hawking engines were selling Hive goods before most known factions knew they even existed.
>>48678010I dont want to become the babysitter for every species Let them fight and develop their own civs
>>48678046Fastest way to make them loyal is to adopt them. So other way around.
>>48678043Canderon, the fuel for Union's blackholetech. And yes we still hold onto that. And have blackholeguns to make with it.
>>48677860Get out hippy
>>48678083Yeah really.NO GREENS ALLOWED BELOW THIS LINE----------------------------------------------------------THIS IS NOW A RHINO THREAD
>>48677860They have their own worlds.
>>48677934It's true you silly billy. Remember the memories of the exodus we found?
>>48677568"The Hive may have already said too much, but we have learned the dangers of provoking human curiosity, and will say what we can to your ruler." Your drone says. The admiral looks at you with some suspicion but buries it in his mind, turning his attention to his assembling fleets."Regardless, no matter what threat may be further over the horizon, your warnings will be of no use unless we deal with what is directly before us. We have already taken casualties at numerous points. The enemy fleets tend to strike quickly with an expeditionary force. They fire from long range, and fall back before we can engage, then return with a larger force." He says. "From my observations, I believe they lack any proper method of FTL communication, which is certainly to our advantage, and these hit and run fleets are probing attacks, measuring our defences to gauge how many ships they need to send.""They have sent these attacks against the Hive." You reply. Yogesh nods as he strokes his thick beard."We are still fighting off the ground forces where you intervened, and additional fleets have been spotted in Tiberion and Krasnodar, as well as Godard and Hel. Judging by the typical size of their assault forces, I doubt we will be able to field a force capable of expunging them from all of their targets without taking heavy casualties, especially with so much of our forces having to dedicate themselves to the Union front.>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support>Offer ships to support the picket fleets and support ground troops through fighter and ship bombardment at request>Other (write in)
>>48677934Pretty sure QD implied that the old queens were from another galaxy
>>48678083>>48678062>>48678010>>48678124>Not wanting to assimilate the lesser races.They're all designed to serve a specific purpose by QD you know.
>>48678010That would ONLY be on a Hive controlled world. The other factions I have a feeling are going to be dealing with their own shit still.
>>48678137Assimilation is not coexistence.
>>48678129>>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support
>>48678129What exactly is the difference between these two options?
>>48678129>Offer full defensive support, space and ground supportWe want to catch them alive.
>>48678137I guess some people just want the Grimdark 40kek sci-fi future of everyone fucking hates everyone else instead of the Star Trek Utopian one
>>48678129>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support>>48678153Whether we land our warriors or if we just hang in orbit and shoot things from there.
>>48678129>Offer full defensive support, space and ground supportDESU i just want our drones to wreck shit
>>48678129>>Offer ships to support the picket fleets and support ground troops through fighter and ship bombardment at request>>48678127>>48678136I remember it better than you. Nowhere is anything intergalactic implied. Just that ancient hive space was very far.At this point even a thousand lightyears qualifies as 'very far'.All we know is that the Ark on Raligha was capable of getting from there to here, and no further.
>>48678124And we'll even prepare a few extra worlds for them.All they have to do is to get off our worlds or assimilate, and be a nice little buffer zone between us and OQ.>>48678129>Offer full defensive support, space and ground supportWe haven't had a military drone fight in a while, and I'd love to see how terrifying drone armies can be with fleet support.
>>48678129>Offer ground support where we intervened>specifically coating the entire place in biological agents meant to turn Scavengers into madmen or acidic slag or both. And then we mop up with warriors>then propose the following plan for our space fight:>we get the humans to send a force towards Scavenger Central, but have them stop halfway (so we can see if they react and really CAN see human ships move at warp speed), then continue>a minute before the humans exit warp, we attack the scavengers hammer and anvil style; they're out of position to fight us and by the time they are in position to fight us the humans are on them
>>48678129>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support"Ground combat is a guaranteed victory for the hive."
>>48678190Brilliant.Somebody give this quantum thinker an extra serving of nutrient slurry.
>>48678180Yeah they were likely from another arm of the galaxy and the Ark used a Super-Blink to teleport that far
>>48678190I like this plan, it is a good plan.Supporting
>>48678129>Offer full defensive support, space and ground supportThis is what I was waiting for, a good reason to use the ground forces in a large engagement.>>48678137I don't mind having clones and children, but it's not in character to make a happy republic, which seems to be all you ever get in space fiction.
>>48678129>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support
>>48678190I think the scavs have masks and thus would be immune to our bioweapons, but this is a good offensive strategy for naval combat.
>>48678129>>Offer ships to support the picket fleets and support ground troops through fighter and ship bombardment at requestWe can deploy INSTANTLY with the blink drive upon request for more.We don't need to be there constantly.
>>48678225I already admitted fair point over here >>48678189
If were doing ground combat can we hold a bit of drone building at the end of the thread please?
>>48678168>if it's not one extreme then it's another extremeNice fucking arguing skills. Did you get them from a third grader?Multiculturalism is a lie
>>48678129>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support>Other (write in)"The scavengers have proven themselves to be highly adept at reverse engineering captured technology and quickly mastering its use in combat. It is of vital importance that you leave none alive to return potential human technology where at all possible. We request that you allow us immediate access to any remaining scavenger ground forces on your worlds."
>>48678190>>specifically coating the entire place in biological agents meant to turn Scavengers into madmen or acidic slag or both....They wear vacuum sealed spacesuits.Our bioweapons are useless against a spacefaring race that never takes the suit off like them.Also, no. What we have to do is bait the Scavs into deploying things one by one, to attack SMALL human numbers.Then swoop in with blink drives, which they cannot detect because they travel instantaneously, to outnumber them.Humans are the perfect bait with their warp drives.
>>48678243masks aren't going to save you from biological agents designed to be absorbed through your skin thanks to our psychic spores.
All the races are going to get along once we control their thoughts
>>48678225>expecting a republic>not a monarchyIn all seriousness, I was thinking it would be best to let the individual worlds/colonies organize themselves as they see fit with us managing all interstellar state decisions. Sort of like the Commonwealth model.
>>48678286>he thinks masks aren't part of a full bodysuitBitch you do realize these people live and fight in a vacuum on a regular basis, and would need full bodysuits to prevent decompression?
>>48678303Yeah it's probably best for all involved if we stayed out of local planetary governance. We should still have planetary holdings though, we can set up underground farms and turn human poop into delicious nutrients.
>>48678296And they get replaced with hybrids.Everyone is getting adopted
>>48678314I apologize. I had forgotten about the suits and was arguing against the usefulness of masks against our biological agents.Thank you for reminding me of them.
>>48678129>>Other (write in)The Scavs can detect the movements of the human warp drive, but it is questionable whether they can hope to detect the hive's methods.So, once a day, the hive can swoop in on whatever small forces the humans have deployed, which the Scavs will believe easy pickings, only to have hive ships come in and outnumber them after their arrival.The Scavs do not seem to have FTL communications. They will never know what happened to their fleets that did not return.
>>48678190Also to add to what I suggested here: We should do some explosive cloaked pod attacks as we jump in, so we cripple their deadliest ships right away.
>>48678286dude do you think scavs walk around shirtless or something? they're in fully sealed body armour u big fag
>>48678363They've captured human ships. They're going to have Q-Comm soon
>>48678303>In all seriousness
>>48678129>Offer ships to support the picket fleets and support ground troops through fighter and ship bombardment at request
>>48678303>>48678352Unlike human monarchs, the Queen could rule the entirety of this stellar empire on her own.However, due to the individualistic nature of humans, valen and/or taidaren, if would be best if we had a 'council' of sorts of representatives that each planet would choose to represent them, and they and the bureaucracy of the planet would consult the speakers/thinkers(/the queen) in charge of the planet about all matters, with us simply having to increase the number of thinkers stationed there as needed.
>>48678401Oh yea, gonna have to tell Yogesh about that.
>>48678260Sometimes people say things that are so stupid you just have to ignore it, safely assuming everyone else will ignore it as well thinker anon.
>>48678168I want the species to have their own factions and goals not just be cardboard cutouts that do what we say
>>48678449We could also ask him, since he would know if any ships were captured that did not self destruct.Also, reminder that Quantum communications was a Very slow research subject with a Risk of Failure, back when we had it.So we have time before they're capable of reproducing it.
>>48678401Q-Comm is based around quantum entanglement. Even if they have the end result, a single FTL-comms system, said system is tied around a number of receivers that humans still control.Furthermore, they only have the single product, they do not have the tech required to actually build another one, so it's of no use to them unless they can manage to capture another human ship with an intact Q-Comm and experiment with them.The entire Q-comm system is based around 2 parts after all, and they only have one half of it.
>>48678401Q Coms only work with the q coms they were bound to it so they would be worth less to the scavs but I'm not sure what the scavs skill in reverse engineering is
>>48678168Startrek Utopian? Dude the writers always have to put war in all the plots cause it is boring other wise
>>48678496It's unclear whether if humans sever the quantum string from the far end, it invalidates its utility as a research subject.The FTLComm on the USV Clarke was useless for reverse engineering, but that was the damage in the crash I'm pretty sure, not severing from the far end.
Quantum entanglement is pretty finnicy, pocke it to hard with your science stick, and it falls appart.
Rolled 50 (1d100)We should kill the humans. Leave only the hive humans around. And the adopted ones.
>>48678129"The Hive will assist in their removal." Your drone chirps. The admiral watches as helmet-camera footage is played in several places in the central holo-display, showing marines and armor-clad drop troopers firing into formations of the scavenger forces. Packs of leaderless pups and small, animalistic looking berserkers sprint along the battlefield, scraping at the armor of the larger troopers or fleeing in panic as they advance. Others, clad in their own armor, fire back, ripping into their own caught in the crossfire."They have little regard for their own lives, it seems." Yogesh says. "Are they individual, or do they hold a collective mind like you?" He asks. Your drone chitters."They are between.""Those armored suits, those are new. Engineered from our own drop suits, perhaps, but that would mean they can go from reverse engineering to mass production in days to weeks." He says. Your drone chitters softly, almost mumbling to itself."yes, very slow to adapt.""Others don't even seem to have weapons." Yogesh continues, deliberately ignoring your statement. "They seem smaller, a sub species? They look almost like they could be children, if not for the fact that they are being sent into battle without weapons."You search through the mind of your own captive Scavenger, scanning his memories to its own adolescence. An age of mindlessness and violence, animalistic in nature."Their young are not sentient. They are animals." Your drones says. "Their minds grow later." Yogesh watches the screen as several small scavengers, each the size of a dog, charge madly at the dug out cover of the Commonwealth forces, their pack being quickly gunned down as they charge on all fours. The last few make it to the trench, diving at the humans as their enhanced claws sink into armor and scrape at drop trooper plating. You see one sever a human's arm before a shotgun shell shatters its body like faberge, and a burst of weapon fire puts down the other.cont.
>>48678440>the Queen could rule the entirety of this stellar empire on her own.We could, but there would be some rather uncomfortable adjustment for all parties involved. Planetary governance of aliens isn't something we can instantly master even if we can poop out as much computational power as we want, we'll need to accrue experience in it before we get better at it which will most likely involve fucking up and pissing off our population. Unless you want to parasite everything, which carries its own consequences. Also, assuming you don't want to just hand it off to our autistic thinkers it will cost valuable attention/plotline bloat.I see the appeal in ruling over these fags though, I think if you want to go down that direction we'd be better served by getting Theseus to govern in our stead.
>>48678623>"yes, very slow to adapt."kek
>>48678623>"yes, very slow to adapt."
>>48678450I can't help myself, I bite every time.
>>48678660>>48678661The commentary always kills me.
>>48678440Yeah, that's basically my ideal scenario for managing client populations within the hive. Maybe with Theseus involved with our human relations department.
>>48678623>"Their young are not sentient. They are animals." Your drones says. "Their minds grow later."So, just like humans?
>>48678634We do all the infrastructure and healthcare while Theseus does the logistics?
>>48678440I mean, it might be nice uniting all the species under the queen's banner. The queen's race is practically responsible for all the other races existing, right? Or is that only the humans? That we know of, anyways.
>>48678700with the diffrence that their young arn't quite as helpless.
>>48678634>>48678735>>48678737Or maybe we don't try to waste time ruling them directly and let them do their own things like with the Raleigh and only take some tribute from them once in a while
>>48678735I think that'd be a great compromise.
>>48678737The hives might be responsible for the existence of all the current sentient races. WQ visited the humans and uplifted them from pre-sentience during the middle of a stellar civil war 50k years ago. Who knows what all the queens were doing all around the galaxy before the civil war?
>>48678781Well, yeah. That's what I was saying. It would be similar to the Commonwealth, except for the potentially explosive rivalries.
>>48678781A distant overlord that doesn't provide you with much obvious benefit, yet demands tribute, is one of the fastest ways to breed resentment and hatred towards the ruler in a population of humans. You may have seen a few examples of this in action in your history classes.
>>48678781That's what I'd prefer too but you should realise that there's more opportunities to be had in governing interstellar aliens when compared with spear chucking savages.
>>48678829Why are we wanting to rule humans? Thier so ineffective were better off just using our own workers and warriors than humans
Rolled 61 (1d100)>>48678875They make reasonably nice food
>>48678829>>48678860And what they will be happy and get along with each other like how things are going on right now in the US or Britain? Either we end up parasite them and make them irrelevant to the plot and just fluff so we can say we rule a multi-species empire or allow them to have their own factions and importance to the plot
>>48678875Gourmet chefs that can cook for Mother. That's literally all we have to gain from Humanity.It's worth it though, because it's for mother.
Is it bad that I want a special speaker who looks like the beautiful woman robed in gossamer wings like the queen in hallucinations?
>>48678875Because as they expand they can produce a steady stream of human thinkers for us anon. The hive is a master at reverse engineering existing technologies but it's greatest weakness is it's inability to come up with novel ideas. Which is why the old queens managed to go more than 70,000 years without inventing anything that wasn't related to psionics.
>>48678623"Fascinating. A lack of mental development is common in the young of intelligent species, but they are usually also physically incapable as well." Yogesh says. "They seem to be similar to valen spawn, although these are far more physically dangerous. A valen tadpole is hardly more dangerous than a barracuda, these seem deliberately hostile, trained to be war hounds until they develop their minds enough to use more advanced tools and weapons. It says quite a bit of their evolution, and the morals that evolution has given them." He says. "Regardless, the forces are being mopped up rather well at this point, but incursions have already been reported. Scouting fleets have attacked the picket forces in Godard and Hel not too long ago, and an invasion fleet has already breached the perimeter of Tiberion and have already begun landing ground forces, while invasion fleets have been detected entering the outer system of Krasnodar and Kalidesh both." He says, and turns to you."I have assembled my personal fleet, and a number of satellite task forces, but the local picket forces are not properly suited to handle these attacks.">Offer to defend systems (write in) fully>Offer forces (write in) to serve under the Admiral>Other (write in)
>>48678875Because when we put our spine babies in them they become so cute?
>>48678920You are onto something here thinker drone.Let's discuss this idea in more detail once QD has finished the thread.
>>48678941>Offer to defend systems (write in) fully
>>48678941>>Offer forces (write in) to serve under the AdmiralWe can offer you a number of quantum-brained, explosive-glands warriors to fight alongside your soldiers.Like, uh... 10 thousand? I know it's not much.
>>48678875>>48678875The only reason they want to rule the humans while letting them live independently is because they like their own little head cannon.They are humans and can't think in-character
>>48678941>Offer to defend systemsReinforce the commonwealth in Tiberion, krasnodar and KalideshSet a trap in Godard and Hel Wait how many ships do we have that are free to use right now?
>>48678941>>Other (write in)Go wipe the floor with the invasion fleets in Krasnodar and Kalidesh. Smear them across space and overwhelm any ground forces that managed to land.
>>48678927That's what we have quantum thinkers for. That's what we have the good doctor for.If you want science, then find a few labs and adopt the scientists. There is no need to cultivate a civilization under us.
>>48678941>Offer to defend systems (write in) fullyHel and Godard at least, these are the systems closest to the expanse.We could even negotiate something with the commonwealth to experiment on the prisoners kept in Hel later on.>Offer to mop up the invasion fleet that has breached Tiberion.
>>48678941>Offer to defend systems (write in) fullyMother offers the protection of the hive in exchange for information. Send a few battlegroups.
>>48678927We kinda reached the point that any research that isnt in the psi tech tree is useless now
>>48678941>Offer forces to serve under the AdmiralOffer 5 Heavy Battlegroups (it's about time we blinked them out of Gemini anyway, seeing as we've made our statement already.)Also 10 supporting Light Fleets.And offer as many millions of grounds forces as is appropriate. Be very blase about it all.I want to see Commonwealth tactics.
>>48678912Wait we can still process non hive food I figured after we developed the hive that we lost the organs need for that
>>48678941>>Offer to defend systems (write in) fullyTiberion is the focus right now.Tiberion and Hel.
>>48678941>offer to CRUSH THE SCAVENGERS wherever they are dumb enough to make landfall>and then propose a joint naval op
>>48678999Well, right now, you sorta have all of them floating over Gemini, so you will need to divert a few, but I feel rather confident that the point you were making with them has been sufficiently made.
>>48678941>Offer forces (write in) to serve under the Admiral5% of Leelands swarm to remove scavs wherever they land. Also some ships to buff up their pickets, although we should suggest the blink ambush tactic first.>Offer to defend systemsborder worlds.
>>48678941Annihilate all ships in Tiberion.Once the fools commit to getting closer at Krasnodar and Kalidesh, then we can come in and prevent their escape so they can never live to tell about what happened.
>>48678941>>Offer to defend systems (write in) fullyKrasnodar and Kalidesh. We'll take care of the invasion forces.
>>48678941Um can we get a list of available fleets right now since we may need to decide to send them to launch surprise attacks on union positions right now?
>>48679082You know what this means, don't you?We need to immediately begin construction on new fleets.
>>48678829What if our tribute was of more value to us than it is to them to the point of it not being seen as tribute? Assume a symbiotic relationship on alien governed planets under our control. We could sell our various hive goods and medical procedures for credits, take control of their waste disposal and street cleaning services for nutrients and metal. I'm sure there's loads of profitable stuff we can do without becoming an overlord figure.
>>48679082>all of them floating over GeminiWhat? I thought that was only a half dozen fleets we sent with the citadel, only about a third of our overall fleet. What is defending Leeland or patrolling our space right now?
>>48679082Shit so we cant support the commonwealth this turn then So we need to decide how to split the fleet on 3 fronts then, Auntie, union and scavs
>>48678920to my great shame i must admit that this is also something i would enjoy
>>48678920This sounds stupid
>>48679090I agree with this. Also I would rather we control our fleets. If we let then control then they will be less efficient and the humans might get an uneasy closer look at or capabilities
>>48679124I would be COMPLETELY down for that.MORE HEAVY BATTLEGROUPSMORE LIGHT FLEETSMORE LIGHT FLEET VARIANTSMORE MORE MORE!!!!!!>>48678999I support this, with this anon's >>48679062 fleet numbers because to be honest I'm a little unclear on how many fleets of various types we have lying about at the moment.
>>48679082I think you got things mixed up QD.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/48446300/#p48448685>1 Citadel Hive Ship>6 Heavy Battlefleet>10 Light fleetOut of our total forces of >10 Heavy Battle Fleet >5 Missile Ambush Fleet>25 Light Fleets We should still have 4 heavy fleets, 15 light fleets, and all our missile ambush fleets on standby.
>>48678999Wait to reinforce the K-stars until they're caught with their metaphorical dick in too deep to pull out in time. >>48679090
>We sent to the Union1 Citadel Hive Ship6 Heavy Battlefleet10 Light fleetA massive force.>Our total force consists ofCitadel Hive Ship – [Awaiting orders]Small Heavy Defense Fleet [Patrolling Leeland space]10 Heavy Battle Fleet [Awaiting orders]5 Missile Ambush Fleet [Awaiting orders]25 Light Fleets [Awaiting orders]20 Light Fleets [Under construction]>And there is an additionalConstruction underway[Fast Assault Fleet] x5
>>48679188FIRE UP THE FURNACES LADS, IT'S TIME TO GO TO WAR!
>>48679136well, hopefully it'll be more of a diplomatic/bureaucratic battle against the union.then we only have to spread ourselves between two fro-.....Have we learned nothing from Hitler?
>>48679213>>48679232Rest is patrolling hive space.
>>48679152>>48678955I have been thinking of it since I first read the discription and have been trying to read all the threads since last week.>>48679175That is fair, not everyone likes thing. As long as mother is happy.
>>48679237Hitler didn't have planet destroying super nukes that can warp were ever thier need
>>48678941>>Offer to defend systems (write in) fullyAll of them, split the heavy fleets between the affected systems. As long as they are relatively close our blink drives should allow us to instantaneously reinforce them with the light fleets in event of an incursion.
>>48679237Hitler couldn't give birth to millions of adult, combat trained Germans every day.
>>48679082What do Heretic and Theseus think about helping out the Commonwealth? Because if they want to build relations, nows the time
>>48679136Scavs are simple enough to be a mild distraction. We don't need to focus so much on them imo.
>>48679232ok, so, we have 4 Heave fleets, 5 Missile Ambush fleets and 15 Light fleets awaiting orders?We can surely split these up effectively between human/scav conflicts.Then we'll just have to put in construction orders.I suggest work on making +10 for all types. yes, this includes Citadel Hive Ships
>>48679188We should probably throw some missile fleets in there for the ambushes. We can also spare, apparently, an additional 5 Light Fleets without eating into Light Fleets currently deployed over Gemini.And we only have to divert one Heavy Fleet from over Gemini, which is good because we don't need to commit all of our military forces to attacks when the OQ is lurking around doing god knows what.So>5 Heavy Battlefleets>15 Light Fleets>5 Missile Ambush Fleets (for the traps)Maybe send our unorganized ships that aren't parts of fleets but are equipped with stealth generators with the Missile Fleets to help with cleaning up disgusting Scav goo.
>>48679082Pull a battlegroup from each line and pool them for this fight. Make more for use.
>>48679296He probably would have wished he could.>>48679276And the humans have gravity missiles, and the scavs have whatever laser tech, and auntie has the void god on speed dial.When everyone has superweapons, no one has superweapons.
>>48679082Hey QD what's the status of stealthed nuke space pods under the new system? Can we still do the invisible nuke swarm thing we beat OQ with?
>>48679296He could have if it weren't for those meddling kids.
>>48679309No, there's no sense in building more Hive Ships when we've only got thorough control of a handful of planets. I would rather invest in having fancy new+potent drone types in our ground forces.
So this is our ship duties thenAny fleet patrolling is the defense force against auntie and maybe the union in the future So we need to decide how many fleets to send to each front, Scavs, Auntie and possibly union We really need the ship list before we decide >>48679302Humans hate AI, it up to them to fix relations >>48679305Still need to provide support to the commonwealth and that going to take some fleets given we may be also at war with the union soon Figure need to provide support in at least 2 systems minimal to keep alliance on good terms
>>48679309Maybe we could design a new type of hive ship equipped with the rip drive. There's nothing stopping us from building multiple hive ships simultaneously either.
>>48679309A few threads ago there was a vote to make some new stuff
>>48679350But anon, can't you just taste the bitterness and salt from auntie when we blink in a full battlefleet consisting entirely of Hive Ships when we made such a blow to her standing fleets by taking out 1 of hers?It. Will. Be. Delicious.
>>48678941>Focus on Tiberion, krasnodar and Kalidesh at the momentThe admiral clicks through several controls on his data pad."Things don't look very good for the picket forces." He says. "None of the larger inclusions seem to have a force less than two hundred strong. Judging by tonnage and radiated heat, they look like big ones too, although it's impossible to tell for certain." He saysHow many forces will you send to each system?>Write in>>48679232Yes, I think a few of those were even built after your Hive ship was decided to hop over to Gemini. Regardless, you can divert however many fleets you want both from patrol duty or Gemini orbit to quickly assist in defence of the Commonwealth systems.
>>48679383The delicious impotent anger is wonderful but those resources coul be better spent on other things. Like thousands of nuke pods. Sorry Im a sucker for nuke pods.
>>48679398Send a heavy battle fleet and three Light fleets to each system.
>>48679302I've been thinking about that, I don't think Heretic really cares at the minute but Theseus might be interested in building relations with the other factions. I don't think this is the time or the place for that though, I think it might be a good idea to give him a section on our space trading city if we ever get around to building one. I'm not sure what he want to trade for but it's a risk free foot in the door for diplomacy with any race willing to trade in our space.
Silly idea:Research a spinal mount that is just an extended barrel for another ships railgun, to further accelerate the round.
>>48679398Is thier a need to split our forces we could just blink in our full might and crush them one by one each battle can't last more than an hour each
>>486793985 heavy battlefleets2 misssile ambush fleets10 light fleets.
>>486793982 Heavy Battle Fleet1 Missile Ambush Fleet5 Light FleetsTo each planet.
>>486793982 Heavy Battlefleets, 3 Light Fleets, 1 Missile Fleet per system.
>>48679443we could attach warp drives to the bullets
>>486793981 heavy fleet 6 light fleetsto each system >>48679449This is a good idea, crush them in each sector and then move to the next If we do this then 3 heavy fleets and and 15 light fleets
>>48679398>>Write inSplit the heavy fleets up evenly, and send 5 light fleets and 1 missile ambush fleet to each system.
>>48679449Repairs from battle will inevitably occur lessening the overall strength of the battlegroup.However the golden rule of spacebattle is the more you send the less you lose so.... maybe?
>>48679398well, we have blink drives, so we can effectively jump from patrols to the fight and back again in an instant, so I suggest:>send all standing fleets. use the heavy fleets to hammer-and-anvil the Krasnodar and Kalidesh invasions once they've committed too much to retreat. Hide the missile ambush fleets in the blink radiation of the heavy fleets to attack the scav fleets from their blind spots as they defend against our heavies and the planetary defenses. Send the free light fleets to hit-and-run the Tiberion invasion scav fleet. It doesn't matter if the Tiberion fleet retreats and warns them of our hit-and-run tactics, that will just make future encounters against them more vulnerable to the hammer-and-anvil.
>>48679398We can send 8 Light Fleets to each.
>>486793982 Heavy Battlefleets3 Light Fleets1 Missile Ambush Fleetfor each system
>>48679398Split 6 light fleets across the picket fleets with a heavy fleet for each.Also build 10 of each.
>>48679449I suspect that rolling poorly would make the fights drag a bit, that's the only problem I can see.
>>48679480we could, but chanderon makes for verry expensive bullets.
>>486793982 Heavy Battle Fleet1 Missile Ambush Fleet5 Light FleetsTo each.
>>48679480Whoa there thinker. Slow down before you hurt someone.
>>48679398......So what the hell even are our forces.https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/48440181/#48440199You list fleets 4 threads ago, but have no definition for what fleets ARE.Reading the wiki TALK page is suspect because anyone can edit those at any time, how are we supposed to know what's canonical?This makes it really hard to make actual tactical decisions like this with no real guidance. How many people writing in even know what percentage of our ships total they're committing?
>>48679449It still takes time to sublight around the system. I tend to glance over the travel time of craft in-system since it very rarely ever has any direct impact on the situation at hand, but moving into position and deploying forces does usually take much longer than that.
>>48679443You're thinking too small anonWe need to make 6 Capital Ships. Separate, they are strong, but together they combine to form...MEGA GUNDAM SHINING HAND SPECIAL SUNRISE!
>>48679532Oh so that would take multiple turns then? So the battles may be over in this turn then? So we have to commit now then
>>48679532Well then would suggest we send small holding forces while a stronger force huts them one at a time
>>48679531This is actually a problem for me too. Ever since we switched over to the new format I have absolutely no idea how many ships we actually have anymore.
>>48679506Changing my vote to >>48679496
>>48679567Our greatest weapon in space warfare is the blink drive. We can, with a good enough roll, position our fleets almost exactly where we want and need them to be at any given moment, However, every other aspect of the battles takes time, which we do not have a lot of if the scavs are simultaneously invading multiple commonwealth worlds.This is basically an event to earn massive brownie points with the commonwealth.>>48679532yeah, like the anons have been saying, >>48679590 , >>48679531 , we may need an explanation from you to fully grasp what our numbers and statistics really mean here, QD.
>>48679398>Send 2 heavy fleet and 6 light fleets to each system>Send 5 light fleets and 1 missile ambush fleet>Send 8 light fleets>Other>>48679590>>48679531That would be my bad, sorry. I use the wiki to determine how you wish to form your fleets, and it logs any edits so it's typically rather reliable in that regard, but I will try to get a more appropriately usable method of conveying that information set up in the OP posts in the future from now on, sorry.
>>48679449Good idea. Blink in to each system in succession with everything we have, and the leave a smaller fleet (a heavy, a few lights, and an ambush) in each system once everything is gone for cleanup.
>>48679643Yeah the blink drive is niceBut it would be pretty broken in a game sense if we were allowed to destroy 5 enemy fleets in five different systems with the same doom stack>>48679678 >Send 2 heavy fleet and 6 light fleets to each system
>>48679504Voting for this, hopefully it's enough.
>>48679678>Send 2 Heavy Fleet and 6 Light Fleets to each systemWe've certainly got the weight to throw around. Let's do it.
>>48679696All in the same turn
>>48679678>>Send 2 heavy fleet and 6 light fleets to each system
>>48679678Nah, QD. It'd be fine for you to define the numbers of a fleet in your pastebin, same place you officialize the drone and ship designs.>Heavy fleets and Light Fleets
>>48679678I stand by my tactics suggestion from earlier, >>48679496so my vote is>2 heavy fleets, 5/6 light fleets and 2 ambush fleets to each of the K systems. 5 light fleets and 1 ambush fleet to Tiberion
>>48679678>Send 2 heavy and 6 light to each>Send 2 ambush fleets
>>48679678>Send 2 Heavy Fleet and 6 Light Fleets to each systemMop up these furniture baiting bastards quickly
>>48679678Thanks QD, I appreciate the effort.
>>48679678Geez QD why you gotta act like an abused wife you're making me uncomfortable.
>>48679797Anons are abusive to qmLook at the stupid shit storms that happen
>>48679532If we have a pod in the system nearby, our blinks can be somewhat more accurate and arrive closer to our intended destination, right?
>>48679678Hey QD, just want to give you a reminder that both you and this quest are awesome. Don't beat yourself up over a handful of complaints.
Lot of talk going around about building more fleets. Maybe this time we should design a general purpose fleet that's in between our light and heavy fleets, would anyone be interested in something like that?
>>48679874You mean a merger so there's more ships and variation per fleet?
>>48679874Um light fleets are just smaller ships while heavy has the larger ships in itThere not supposed to be used separate in the first place
>>48679874Sure thing, although we should probably wait until the end of the thread as usual. Personally I think we should focus on more corvettes for fast interception and defensive flack, especially if we may be fighting nuke spamming humans.
>>48679892No, I mean a new fleet design, with new ship designs. Ones with combat armor instead of heavy or standard armor and a balanced fleet composition. Both the heavy and light fleets are very useful at their specific roles, but I'm thinking of general purpose fleet that is balanced and is reasonably well equipped for any situation.
>>48679921The light fleets are just cheep and unarmored, the heavy fleet is made of ships of the same size just a looot denser.
>>48679874I mean, the Heavy Fleets were designed from the start to be a core than was to be fleshed out by other ships and fleets. I had anticipated they would typically be supported by a larger number of Small Heavy Defense Fleets, but Light Fleets work just as well really.>>48679940The Heavy Fleets are actually pretty well equipped for just about any situation, they're just slow. So very slow.
>>48679958>>slowThat's their biggest weakness, along with their prohibitively high cost. They make an excellent defensive force or seige group, but we could use something in between that and the oversized task forces that are our light fleets.
>>48679955Can someone remind me, I don't think light fleets include corvettes (our lightest, fastest, ship) but instead are just cruisers and frigates. Maybe we should just change the light fleet makeup a bit to make it more versatile.
>>48679940I dunno, I'd prefer the fleet system be kept as simple as possible as well as being made clearer. If we have dozens of different fleets to choose from every time we go into battle then it bogs things down.I'd prefer it be kept down to a manageable number of highly specialised fleets are grouped together into a task force for specific, rather than have a bunch of specific task forces for every eventuality on standby.
>>48680053Perhaps we could just include some midsize ships in both the heavy and light fleets?
>>48679874Fast Fleets are in between. Stronger but not as slow as heavier armor.
>>48680046we voted some time ago to add corvettes to the light fleets, but no one ever actually changed the entry on the wiki for them.
>>48679958Witch makes little sense in space were the only limiting factor in speed is energy really a heavy ship should be able to go as fast as a lighter one it would just take longer to get there
>>48680046A middleweight fleet of ships constantly on standby atound leeland do we can warp them out if needed but just keep them there otherwise?
>>48680053I like simplicity too, but not when it costs us actual fleet performance. Our light fleets are basically masses of FTL capable guns. They've got no missiles, swarmers, strike craft, or even mulit-layered shielding. We need something better than that to supplement our heavy fleets, which are about as fast as cold molasses.
>>48680110as our ships can move almost instantly, i believe tha "slow" was refering to manuvering.
>>48680053Yeah i agree >>48680128Well the lights fleets are just supposed to provide numbers and act as a screen for the heavy fleet in the first place
>>48680107I thought QD took that and those boarding ships we designed in the last thread before his haitus, but now that you notice it they aren't in the OP. Maybe I should repost them after the thread, if they get some traction I can put them on the wiki later.
>>48679678>Send 2 heavy fleet and 6 light fleets to each systemYour ships begin to flex their drive wings as they spool their blink drives, their destinations locked in.Elsewhere, as your ships finish their maneuvers, your pod in Virgo detects something along the outer reaches of the system. A number of flashes of radiation flickering through the darkness.The picket forces are already deployed, their scanners tuned to the outer reaches of the system, and they seem to pick up the signals as well. Fighters are launched, and corvettes quickly enter into formations with them, the strike craft forming shells around the small corvettes each covered in point defence weapons and missile racks. They begin to accelerate out to the edges of the system on an intercept course as your pod swivels its sensors to the distant cluster of heat signatures.Slowly they come into focus as you scan the small patch of space. A force, rather small in size, all things considered, composed of several dozen corvette and frigate sized ships each, with a number of cruisers in the center of the formations, all lead by a single battlecruiser. The force is obviously not enough to take the system. You wonder what the goal of the force is, perhaps to test the human defences, or some suicide attack to cripple local industry, or even a beachhead fleet meant to guide in a larger fleet's blink maneuver past the local picket forces. You can't be certain, but you doubt your mad aunt is here for small talk.Cont.>>48679861I don't, but they have excellent points and I do need to get that information set into a more easily accessible format.>>48679735I'll be sure to work on that then.
>>48680175Fucking hell Of course she decides to make a move now while we are in a delicate position Send a fleet to stall her then?
>>48680175Goddamit auntieWe really should inform the union that those ships aren't ours and that we'll help them keep them away
>>48680175Seems to be a feint to get us to move units from elsewhere. I dont trust it.
>>48680242There not going to believe us right now with our fleet above their capitalThey will just see it as the start of the war
>>48680175Since she is in human space we will have to explain shit to then anyway so why not just blink must of our remaining "diplomatic" fleets from Gemini to smoosh her. That way the humans will see that we are actually defending out claim and not just being pointless assholes
>>48680251You might be right but we still need to help, send the ambush fleets.
>>48680251The problem is we can't really take that chance.
>>48680204>>48680242Yes to both of these. We can play it off to the Union as this is just likely a preliminary attack by the hostile forces they awoke at Nowhere and proof that they need our "protection" in order to survive, hopefully. If necessary I suppose we can blink forces from the Gemini Fleet to support, but I'd prefer to send other forces if we have them available in enough strength to kill auntie. We cannot let her get human tech (especially nukes and shields!) at virtually any cost.
>>48680251How about splitting our forces? A ambush fleet taking care of said ships in human space, and a raiding fleet sent to hurt her industry somewhere.
>>48680301>>48680298Do we have any forces around leeland we can draw from? I mean it isnt ideal but we are entrenched there with surface to air batteries. It would be worth the risk to draw from reserve forces.
>>48680175You continue to observe the converging fleets as the larger ships of the picket forces begin to enter formation in orbits of their respective worlds. The PDF forces of each are already mobilized, but quickly enter a heightened alert, the anti-orbital weapons across the colonies quickly arming themselves as reserve fighters scramble across the surface.While you suspect the local fleets should be able to overwhelm the far less advanced ships of the Obsidian Queen, it may still cost the Union, and you highly doubt her ships are as recognizably different to your own from their perspective.>Leave the local PDF to handle the situation>Blink in interceptor forces to assist (write in)>Inform the Union of the incursion, who it is, and offer your help>Other (write in)>>48680160Yea, I honestly cannot guarantee I didn't forget something potentially important during the hiatus, or since, really. Don't hesitate to call me out on any such issues so I can try and fix it.Same policy as always regarding that. If I forget something, I always err on the side of caution resource wise.
>>48680335I mean we do still have ambush fleets in reserve, maybe bringing them into play would be a good idea?
>>48680324This. The only thing I disagree with is not drawing ships from Gemini. If we do that we could use it as a demonstration that we are actually trying to defend the Union, if they see our ships jumping out from their capitol they could make that connection much easier.
>>48680344>Blink in interceptor forces to assist (write in)Ambush fleet since both of them know we have stealth and to show it isn't us attacking, also some fleets to attack one of aunties industry to discourage her from further attacks.
>>48680344>Inform the Union of the incursion, who it is, and offer your helpSend in dome reseve fleets from the ambush fleet pool.
>>48680344>Other Withdraw the fleet from the union capital Auntie just triggered the war between us and the union The union is not in mood to believe anything we say right now after what we just said to them
>>48680344>>Leave the local PDF to handle the situationWe can't inform them directly. And how can we respond without showing we have a way of seeing into their system?
>>48680344>Blink in interceptor forces to assist (write in)Send 5 Missile ambush fleets>Inform the Union of the incursion, who it is, and offer your help. Don't "Offer" just help. Explain after why what we did is necessary if the Union doesn't want to get genocided.
>>48680344>>Other (write in)Inform the Union of the incursion, and that you will handle it yourself. This is a hive matterBlink in 1 heavy fleet and 2 light fleets from Gemini to defend Virgo.
>>48680385Extra dimensional aliens that can sense things they can't even fathom. I'm sure we can find a way to bullshit them, anon.
>>48680344>inform the union of the incursion, who it is, and offer our help cleaning up
>>48680344>Inform the Union of the incursion, who it is, and offer your helpI hate to say it but if we don't offer some help here I fear we may worsen the good will we have left in the union. An ally made in a time of need garners more affection and all that. Even if I hate the union.
>>48680344>Blink in interceptor forces to assist (write in)>Inform the Union of the incursion, who it is, and offer your help
>>48680409They've been attacked by OQ before the shit at Nowhere. We'd be caught out on our lie.
>>48680462It wasn't our problem then. Plus we can pull the fact they had a fucking nuke over us and explain we were hiding our presence.
>>48680344>>Inform the Union of the incursion, who it is, and offer your help
>>48680344>Inform the Union of the incursion, who it is, and offer your helpSeconding this >>48680382
>>48680344>Inform the Union of the incursion, who it is, and offer your helpHow rude of her trying to take some of our space while we're talking.
>>48680344>Inform the Union of the incursion, who it is, and offer your helpShould the accept, what forces will you send?>Deploy forces from your reserve (write in)>Reroute forces from Gemini (write in)>Other
We might have to inform the commonwealth the traitor whore is coming closer.
>>48680403>Inform and blink in interceptor forces.We should pull the interceptors from the fleet over Gemini explain these enemy ships are one reason why we are so disappoint with them.
>>48680462>We heard the screamingI don't see how this contradicts anything we've told them. We have potent FTLcomms capable of tracking the movements of bad shit we're trying to protect the Union from, this doesn't change a thing.
>>48680506>reroute forces from Gemini
>>48680506>>Reroute forces from Gemini (write in)Visual confirmation on their end.
>>48680506>>Reroute forces from Gemini (write in)1 heavy fleet and 2 light fleetsMissile ambush fleets are just overkill for something this small.
>>48680511That's probably a very good idea. Let the admiral know the the crystal slaves are mobilizing.
>>48680548>Reroute forces from Gemini (write in)>1 heavy fleet and 2 light fleets
>>48680506>Reroute forces from GeminiI think it'd be a good move diplomatically, though it'll suck to give them more intel on our FTL capabilities.
>>48680506>Reroute forces from Gemini1 heavy fleet and 2 light fleets
>>48680506>Other ask the unity to send aid instead we did want to make humans like him a bit more and this is the reason we made these deals with him
>>48680506>Deploy forces from your reserve (write in)Ambush fleets we have floating around. If we pull too much away from gemini then it is a weak point. We can always blink away in if shit really hits the fan.
>>48680506>Deploy forces from your reserve (write in)5 ambush fleets.>Reroute forces from Gemini (write in)take 2 heavy fleets and 5 light fleets from Gemini and 10 light fleets, 2 heavy fleets from our total force to hit the black queens weakest industry.
Thanks for the wonderful quest QD get well soon!
>>48680506> reroute from GeminiJust send everyone except the hive ship, not like they are going to attack it. Then afterwards we can say that this is why we want to be friends
>>48680623what an absolutely terrible idea
>>48680623>Not "this is why we will go to war for the expanse."
>>48680506>Reroute forces from Gemini (write in)>1 heavy fleet and 2 light fleetsAlright, now I hate to do this, but at page 8 I'm not entirely confident we can get through combat without falling off, so I think I'll have to call it here.I will stick around until the thread dies for any questions, comments, feedback, and votes if you want to design or build anything.
>>48680623Leaving gemini vulnerable just seems like a bad idea, we have a lot invested there.
>>48680623But we don't want to be friends we want the expanse so we can fight her and if the union won't give we won't waste resources protecting them
>>48680655Please hold a vote for building 10 of every fleet.
>>48680655>>48680674We really need to get fleet production going, along with modifying some existing fleets.
>>48680655Can hold a vote to make more fleets?Like>10 Heavy Battle Fleets>5 Missile Ambush Fleets
>>48680655Thanks again QD!Also would it be possible to make a special speaker who looks like the beautiful woman robed in gossamer wings like the queen in hallucinations? But include augments underneath the skin. Something the human ambassadors would be more comfortable around and wouldn't shred the chairs? A royal speaker if you will?What would that cost anyway? Or how would you design it?
>>48680674Like thier would be any doubt we should be building ships till we can't feed them anymore
>>48680711Sure, I like this. Voting for it.We also voted to start building a space-city (exact location tbd) a few threads ago, right? If not, let's vote on whether or not to build a city as well too.
>>4868065510 heavy fleets, 5 missile fleets, 10 light fleets. Maybe a medium strike fleet model?
>>48680655Curse your incredible cliffhangers QD, thanks for running. We were kind of talking about building ships that incorporated the boarding tech we got from the Scavs in that last thread before your leave, so I'll just repost some of the designs I came up with now. Stalker CorvetteHull: Corvette 400N 800MCapacity: 200/20Size: 100 MetersModule Limit: 2Spinal Mount (x1): Ramming Keel 50N 200MTurret (X2): Cyclotron 50MFixed (X2): Ion Cannon 40MAuxiliary (X8): Plasma Lance 80MArmor: Conductive 150N 500MArmor: Reflex 500NUtility: Cloaking Shields 50N 150MUtility: Rapid Damage Control 15N 20MModule: Harpoon 10N 200MModule: Boarding pod launcher 50N 100MTotal Cost: 1075N 2140MAn invisible ship capable of ramming other ships. Perfect for getting drones on board bigger ships.
>>48680674Actually, because i have numerical autism i want>5 light fleets.>15 heavy fleets.>10 ambush fleets.>5 fast assault fleets.
>>48680722My guess would be a human chimera
>>48680723Hah like that is even possible with our solar sail superfarms.
>>48680723We can just ask the Humans to supply the Hive with foodstuffs to cover the cost of the fleets. To the humans, food is cheap and plentiful.
>>48680768True, but it takes time and resources to make those. If the humans just supply the balance of what we need, we can go all in on our war building efforts.
>>48680762I thought the chimera were inherently grotesque abominations against humanity, the hive, and genetics that we only made as a medium tier shock trooper when in need of quick troops?
>>48680655>Begin construction of 10 Heavy Battle Fleets and 5 Missile Ambush Fleets>Begin construction of 5 Light Fleets 15 Heavy Fleets 10 Ambush Fleets and 5 Fast Assault Fleets>Begin construction of 10 Heavy Fleets 5 Missile Fleets and 10 Light fleets>Other
>>48680722Ugh fuck that.Our hallucination is physically impossible in a number of ways and is made of gossamer dreamstuff.it would be in the uncanny valley to try to approximate it with meat.
>>48680655>>48680655Thanks for running!
>>48680794That is a good point and I agree, but will they agree with helping a foreign power like that? They might in the short term but we better have out farms as a back up for when they are out of immediate danger.Maybe we should start terraforming the fuck out of some out of the way solar systems, or dyson sphere us some farms to teleport nutrients from.
>>48680815>>Begin construction of 10 Heavy Fleets 5 Missile Fleets and 10 Light fleetsAlso 5 fast assault fleets
>>48680815>>Begin construction of 10 Heavy Fleets 5 Missile Fleets and 10 Light fleetsWe need more of those Large Missile Fleets, yes.
>>48680815>Begin construction of 5 Light Fleets 15 Heavy Fleets 10 Ambush Fleets and 5 Fast Assault Fleets.And can you keep this Fast assault fleets construction desperate from the first so i can have my raids sooner?
Tech ideaHive auto farms using the same nanotechnology used by the hive to mine metal. Hive creep would be designed to grow roots that absorb and replenish the nessesary elements to make hive nutrition with out needing to grow actually plants
>>48680817While it does have a few problems like the overlayed fractal jaws inside jaws smile I do feel like it would be a good idea just for an ambassador role. Our current speakers can't even use a chair and while scary (even with the fluff) they are pretty disconcerting.Also Im not gonna lie I want to see the reactions when superpretty bugwing lady shows up when the last talks we had were with a giant cockroach moth man.
>>48680843Since workers are effectively part of infrastructure now it's kind of moot whether farms are constructed by sessile growth or workers.
>>48680817We do have textured holograms now for that kind of stuff.Just sayin.
>>48680815>Begin construction of 10 Heavy Fleets 5 Missile Fleets and 10 Light fleets
>>48680866It would be a) obviously dishonest, as they know our race are by and large giant bugs, b) would get their minds thinking about how we could create artificial human clones probably, and become paranoid about infiltration, which is a possibility we shouldn't encourage.'Recruited' humans like Lee are as human faces as we need.
>>48680815>>Begin construction of 5 Light Fleets 15 Heavy Fleets 10 Ambush Fleets and 5 Fast Assault FleetsWe need strikers badly.
>>48680815>>Begin construction of 5 Light Fleets 15 Heavy Fleets 10 Ambush Fleets and 5 Fast Assault Fleets
>>48680878True I was thinking more alone the lines of being able to farm on world's that get little to no light or are difficult to grow plants on and for the fluff
>>48680905They know how good we are with biology though. Just have it simply say something along the lines of"Tgis one was born to facilitate negotiations in a more comfortable setting, we know you have yet to perfect adequate chairs for our normal physiology."
>>48680905We are giant bugs with a grasp of biotech that is just stupidly high by their standards. They already know that. I do not see how it is dishonest.
>>48680175>Fighters are launched, and corvettes quickly enter into formations with them, the strike craft forming shells around the small corvettes each covered in point defence weapons and missile racks.>missile racksOkay, million dollar question, how the hell did the OQ learn how to build missiles. She should have never seen them before, in our battle we explicitly held off on firing any at her ships. Has she been dealing with the Union or Valen behind our backs or something?
>>48680951>we know you have yet to perfect adequate chairs for our normal physiology."They already have created adequate chairs for our speaker when the commonwealth diplomat went to our ship for surgery.
>>48680982Pretty sure those were the union ships anon
>>48680982The picket fleet is the union.
>>48680969Cause ever bug alien species that can make humans are the villains in sci fi flicks and stories
>>48680989Did they? Darn I missed that part. Did they ever perfect couch technology?
>>48680982missiles are pretty basic weapons and shes many times older then us.
>>48680828Again, Terraforming takes time, we are in a crunch mode and Auntie isn't willing to wait. While yes we should have some serious food production in the works, but we're about to go all mandibles to the wall fleet building and army formation. The war is on and everything else should be put on the back burner till we get some breathing room. That is why the human's food production is needed. Hell, even their food WASTE can be useful for us.
>>48681009We are the villains, we just happen to be fighting a worse villain while helping the normal good guys.
>>48680655Will there be any midweek thread between now and the 21st?I need my fix man.
>>48680969No, he's right. They know we're a lot better at them at medicine, but they don't know that we have complete genetic mastery over alien biology to the point of being able to clone humans on short notice and psiconically link them into our undetectable hive mind.Your waifu isn't worth it anon.
>>48681002>>48681004Interesting, I didn't realize the Union used their strike craft as defensive measures for their larger vessels. I would have thought the hive would have a monopoly on that particular strategy.
>>48680815>Begin construction of 5 Light Fleets 15 Heavy Fleets 10 Ambush Fleets and 5 Fast Assault FleetsI'll stick around until we drop off for any more votes or questions ect.>>48680982Those are the Union picket forces actually. Corvettes with PD and missile racks surrounded by formations of grav fighters sent to intercept the incoming hive forces.>>48680989This is actually one of the reasons they still tried to give you a human agent. They are currently very nervous that you seemed insulted by the gesture. While the Union should be able to develop accommodations for your drones rather quickly, the wide range of oddities between different species means that usually diplomacy can be rather awkward.Their experience in that regard so far consists of a giant carnivorous sea monster and a species of disease filled creatures that smell like roadkill, so they are not very used to dealing with species that are able to easily be in the same room as the other diplomats.
>>48681035It took her 70,000 years to track down and murder our mom, I think we can spare a week to vastly improve our industrial base.
>>48681060they were the ones who we learn missile tech from so it's pretty obvious they equip their strike craft with nuclear missiles.
>>48681050Not even the original anon but we can grow human eyes and organs in less than a day and cure everything, making a human is easy in comparison. But whatever, I just like a real diplomat over our adorable terrormothscorpionbugtalkers.
>>48681084>She took a week.Oh this is going to be a slaughter when we get our raiding fleets.
>>48681107>But whatever, I just like a real diplomatThat's... that's Lee anon. That's literally his job description now.
>>48681116I mean 70,000 years.I have no idea how i typed week.
>>48681077Are we currently gunning towards any new planets for colonization efforts?
>>48681125Not gonna trick me into badmouthing lee anon. He is the queens best buddy forever. We talk to more than 1 group at a time though.
>>48681077So how goes the pods we sent?
>>48681084>>48681116I have this feeling 'auntie' is merely the meat shield for the lurking extra-dimensional horrors for when they finally breach.
>>48681107The speaker is a real diplomat for our species
>>48681077Do you feel like posting your sc referral code? the mentions of it got me looking at it and it looks neat. apparently codes aren't actually visibly associated with the username from the referred guy's perspective.
>>48681047Not this week, but potentially, if I can, I'll try to run some after the 14th.I am very sorry.>>48681060Actually it's the other way around in this case. A screen of fighters linked by laser comm in a wide net formation that allows each fighter room to evade fire, while keeping them close enough to be within the range of the corvette's PD weapons so as to be able to use it for cover against missile or enemy fighter attack, as well as using it as a potential Q-comm relay to connect with the rest of the fleet.>>48681143At the moment you are terraforming the barren world, but otherwise you have not stipulated any new planets be colonized. You can vote to do so if you wish.
>>48681181I know but no matter how adorable he is the fact remains he is still rather terrifying.
>>48681077I want to start a cloning project to produce human hybrids for that black ops idea we had a few threads ago. Only use them after we've taken control of the expanse worlds and we can explain them as "volunteers"Also were there plans for pushing the Union to view Unity as its own sovereign entity?
>>48681084While normally i would agree, but the void gods are tipped off about us and may have a toe hold in our heads. I'm running on the assumption that auntie is being directed right at us and we might not have much time at all. Shit, we need some serious intel on her fleet movement right now to be sure if this is her main push or just a probing action.
>>48681180No shit They do the same with the other slave races
>>48681193it's alright QD, as much as I would like to get my quest fix, you have your own business to take care of as well.
>>48681201Tough shitThe humans aren't children and have to act as adults towards our drones
>>48681143I want a stealth Hive on Earth.
>>48681193QUICK, EVERYONE PICK OUT GOOD PLANETS FOR COLONIZATION
>>48681201They know we're terrifying, they've seen the warriors and such.If he WEREN'T terrifying it would be honestly rather suspicious seeming.
>>48681125Man I love lee but the guy has never been that great with words.
>>48681223I was talking in terms of that being why she seems to comparatively weak to us. Her mind is scrambled and the void gods are merely using her territory and numbers, as opposed to any real strategy or technological advantage.
>>48681256He is now that he's pumped full of anti-spaghetti drugs on command.
>>48681239>The humans aren't children and have to act as adults towards our dronesThe humans we have seen universally act like dickholes and angry children right up till we adopt them or wave a fleet in their face. Why are you getting so rude and defensive about this?
>>48681281What ever happened to the lighter?
>>48681193QD is it possible to use our quantum telportation to produce materials I know we can telport hive products using it but could we use it to make them?
>>48681252I don't understand your reasoning but I am willing to admit that humans aren't logical.
>>48681317Queenie has it framed in her royal chambers right above her throne.
>>48681182I mean, I guess I can if you want.My general strategy for kickstarters is to just drop some money I'd be okay losing in a casino, no more, on something that looks both interesting and not obviously stillborn, then forget about it until years later it's finished and I get a surprise email about a free thing.It's like a more expensive version of sticking candy in your coat pockets to find later. Star Citizen is the same. I never touch the community, but sometimes fly around in the arena game they have set up.>>48681256Well, fortunately, he now has an internal teleprompter since you implanted the parasite.>>48681281That too.>>48681318Could you be more specific?
>>48681193When can we unlock the thinkers memories?
>>48681277Yeah and the ceph act any smarter? the can only think with those void designed implants and that must have a hell of effect on there developmentThere still the same after 70000 years
>>48681355Why are you getting defensive. I'm merely pointing something out.
>>48681355The void gods work like the reapers, you grow how they wish using their gifts but you stagnate at the point they wish as well.
>>48681373People get stupidly defensive over nothing here lately.
>>48681355Maybe the Ceph are just stupid. OQ made some progress trying to copy our cloaks
We also need to ask the scarred queen about hive culture.That's three thing we need to do.
>>48681353THIIIS. Now that worst auntie is breathing down our neck there is no better time to learn what's on that thinker.
>>48681428OQ sent some thinker driven ships to bedrock and they absorbed our sensors.Researching that before and after we have a sample is the fifth thing we have to do.
>>48681447What if its the memory of some useless void god factoid that only serves to tighten their grip on us?
>>48681447We don't know if the reason the WQ sealed it away is invalidated yet.She knew we'd be fighting OQ since that was the message on the damn thing, so that alone isn't enough reason, and we don't know what WOULD be enough reason.
>>48681347>>48681318Sure things like nerve bundles metal plantings stuff that would normally take a lot of time to build or grow or stuff that is more difficult for the hive to make I'm asking more along the lines of speeding up our production speed as well as sive reduction since I know some anons wanted to look in to making hand held Q-coms
>>48681143>>48681193>>48681250Systems to colonize:A-295. Only has a monitor satellite, which we can basically ignore/remove at this point with no consequence.Desmond. This system is empty, right? Why aren't we here yesterday?Refuge. Don't set anything up on the main planet without talking to the Cripple Queen, plenty of resources besides though.Discuss? Vote?
>>48681347How useful are Field Thinkers on the wiki if we attack OQ while jamming everything?You said our moderate relays allow better range of transmission under jamming than the default one, but by how much more of a boost in range was Vaughn's moderate relay?How have we not scanned out the difference between our relays and hers yet?
>>48681428Obsidian Queen, she already has cloaking technology. Whether it was a gift from her crystal overlords or stolen from the ceph, we shall never know.
>>48681528A-295 and Desmond sound good to me. Hesitant on touching the world the cripple is on though.
>>48681555Since when. We have never seen her use it.She tried to approximate it by making super cold and super weak ships.
>>48681555Not the cloak field but she is doing mass effect cloaking
>>48681572there was an attempt
>>48681490If the memory is useless the void god wouldn't tighten it's grip, if it tightens grip the memory isn't useless.>>48681506Being seen by the void god might be enough reason.
>>48681528Definitely going to back A-295 and Demond. We could also stand to increase our development score on the planets we already hold if you're worried about income.
>>48681559Yeah supporting these. I want to let the Barren Queen to have reign over her own system. I think whenever we get around to healing her she'll be like an adopted daughter queen in that she'll be under our control
>>48681528Sounds good I would suggest 0-2 and 0-1 as well but I can't remember if thier something anything actually there
>>48681347I think anon is asking what's the technical hurdle standing between constructing matter out of nothing like a Star Trek replicator, which we can't do, and reconstructing matter like a Star Trek teleporter, which we can do for small inanimate objects.
>>48681572What do you think we've got our patrol ships equipped with g-sensors for?
>>48681590How the fuck do you know?
>>48681559>Hesitant on touching the world the cripple is on though.That's why I said we should ask her first. But even besides that, we should set up on the other planets/moons:"Desmond – Binary star, one red giant and one blue dwarf• Accretion disc: A thin ring of stellar debris spinning around the two stars containing a microbial substance capable of feeding on metallic materials.• Pegasean Gas giant: This “Hot Jupiter” is heated by a combination of its core’s rotation and its proximity to the two stars, causing rolling firestorms in the dense hydrogen layers of the planet’s atmosphere. The effect is rather stunning, but makes mining efforts useless. If the Union has observed this system this was likely a major factor in their departure.• P1: A frozen ball of ice with no atmosphere. It is barren and remote, with a crust composed of a mixture of rock and frozen inert gas.• P2: A thin atmosphere, geothermal activity, and high levels of oxygen make this small primordial world’s future a bright one, if the star lasts long enough for life to form on it. For now, however, there is little but pools of primordial soup, and lakes of a strange animated dark blue ooze made of a liquid carbon solution.• Asteroid belt: This sparse field holds small amounts of usable metals, but is relatively barren and filled mostly with rock and ice.• Ice planet: This small, dead planet is unremarkable in its appearance, A frozen world of gasses likely built up over millions of years from gas blasted away by the system’s formation."
We really need to make use of our chimeras more, or at the very least make some mass produced bio boosted armor for the humies, give it a limited brain so we can wleminate them if required while wearing it.
>>48681594No, she won't be under our control. She'll be indebted though, and be a powerful ally.
>>48681559>>48681621Meant to quote this, obviously:"Refuge – Yellow main sequence star: Unusually dense and reflective ort cloud made from metal fragments, debris, and ice creates an insulating wall of static, hampering attempts to blink directly into the system and rendering sensors useless until the ship passes through at sub-light speed.• Frozen metallic world: An icy planet that skims the inner edge of the debris field that is covered in deep trenches and craters of exposed metal deposits. The planet is devoid of life, but is rich in metals and water ice.• Rocky temperate world: A moderate planet in most respects, it holds a thin atmosphere that offers enough shelter from space to allow liquid water and clouds to form, and supports a small collection of simple life forms that live in the shadows of the devastated hive spires that remain. The selection of life seems to be a narrow evolutionary bottleneck containing the select few creatures that were able to survive the destruction of the local hive forces.o Binary moons: These two satellites orbit in a close elliptical orbit so tight, they exchange atmosphere as they pass at their closest, causing geological activity from the event. They both are promising primordial worlds with the potential for life, although beyond simple bacterium which may not even be native, they seem to hold nothing at the moment.o Forest moon: A low gravity world with a thick and humid atmosphere which is host to a vast spread of thick and tangled jungle."
>>48681618>citing an anon who misconstrues what actually happened as proofWhat part of she tried to approximate it did you not get.
>>48681605Actually I was asking what the hurdle was from replicating basic metals and nutrition to replicating basic products like guns and armor which are both things we can do.
>>48681605I think his point is more akin to full metal alchemy. We teleport the materials in a way that when they get to the target location they are already assembled.
>>48681651>QD is it possible to use our quantum telportation to produce materials I know we can telport hive products using it but could we use it to make them?That sounds literally nothing like the original question.Why would you need to know the details of the hurdle that we've already leapt over and left behind?
>>48681630Fuck off. The humans are useless and anything even vaguely humanoid will only hurt our position with them. As for making bio armor, why would we give the humans anything?
>>48681512It can, but teleporting more complex substances is usually as fast or slower than building it. The advantage of teleporting materials in is that you can utilize ingredients that would otherwise be rare or prohibitively expensive to synthesize, allowing your hidden hives to remain as small as possible and just import things that it would otherwise need to build a detectable industry to produce.>>48681544She essentially has an "experimental" relay. An advanced prototype. It is more advanced than yours, but she seems largely limited by training at this point. As you unlock new abilities, she is able to learn how to use those abilities that she already may have had the potential to do, and likewise, her own studying of her mental alterations has lead to a minor boosting of psionic research, especially now that she has a dedicated psionics lab.>>48681588>>48681625This is correct. She seems to have attempted to make a hull that was difficult to detect with G-sensors, however the effectiveness of it is... debatable.She tried, though. Points for effort. It's actually a good reminder of why the Hive is bad at innovation and invention itself. Without something to reverse engineer, it looks like the best idea she had was to make the ship out of styrofoam.
>>48681679I know it was poorly worded I apologize
>>48681698Because they are our allies against mad auntie?
>>48681702The hive is bad at innovation because its only one mind, so it only has one creativity
>>48681702>Without something to reverse engineer, it looks like the best idea she had was to make the ship out of styrofoam.
>>48681702Can you hold a vote for colonies now? Seems like there is support and I don't want this to be forgotten.
>>48681770That's why Quantum Thinkers are a big breakthrough
>>48681770Yea, more or less, and your Aunt isn't exactly the brightest candle at mass as it is at the moment so that doesn't help either.>>48681778Well not literally, but you get the picture.There was an attempt.>>48681779Sure!
>>48681702Repeating my question.How goes the scouting pods?Also can we start researching the sensor deflecting hull and the "experimental" relay?
>>48681702Either 70000 years of being high on power has made her bad, or the ancient hive's definition of "military genious" had much lower thresholds than ours.
>>48681702>Without something to reverse engineer, it looks like the best idea she had was to make the ship out of styrofoam.Oh our poor brain dead auntie. We must find you and end your pain.
>>48681820I vote for A-295 and desmond. It would be reassuring to have a buffer between the Union and scavs.
>>48681837Judging by the difference between the mind you sense from her relays and the mind you remember from the crystal recordings, she has certainly seen better days.>>48681827Working on them, the systems involved in the current Commonwealth joint military venture will be done next.As for Elizabeth's relay, she helps to research it herself in her free time, and it grants a small boost to your efforts in psionic research, if that's what you mean.
>>48681837Well she's also, in all likelihood, lost all ability to produce tachyons on her own, if she's suffering from the same brain problems as the humans at Tenebris were, which a cursory visual inspection of the GIANT THROBBING CRYSTAL WHERE ONCE WAS HER BRAIN certainly implies.Not that that has a direct effect on intelligence, we'll find out how much stupider the humans got as a side effect soon enough.
>>48681867This + talk to Cripple Queen.
>>48681827>the sensor deflecting hullThere IS no sensor deflecting hull. Anon made that up.And even if it were a remotely accurate description of the soft spongey corvettes we killed, we had no time to take samples.
>>48681867Any particular planet in mind?
>>48681867The primary utility of colonization is building one Psionic Sensor Tower on one planet in each star system.Since it takes a rather short time for us to blink to nearby systems with pods in them.And it's telling that now that our income is higher the new shiny toys get more costly too.We really need to build a tower on the forest moon at Refuge. That's just not even a question.
>>48681966I mostly want A-295 for the metals, solar farms and irradiated planted we can test on.
>>48681966P2 for DesmondDo a survey of the binary volvanic planets and the irradiated planets in A-295 to see if we can start a mining operation there.While we're at it, see if we can do the same for P1 and P2 on G-426
>>48681966Desmond's P2 seems the most promising to start with, but between our core mining and terraforming/weather control we can basically get something out of wherever we set up, right?
>>48681966if psi sensor towers successfully detect a blink drive about to arrive, would it notice it SOONER if it were a larger ship that takes longer to calculate the blink, like an enemy hive ship?Or how is the prediction lead time before they appear determined for an FTL that's basically instantaneous like blink drives and rip drives?
>>48681966Yes, planet 1 in the Desmond system and the binary volcanic worlds in A-295, we should be able to harvest absurd quantities of metal from the later. How hot is it, will our drones be able to survive on the surface long enough to build things for mother?