The dunes of aral shift and wave in the wind as the night continues to darken, rumbling slightly as animals flee from their buried nests. A geyser of sand and chips of stone erupts forth as Lyle and Mauser, locked together as they exchange blows, tumble through the air, shattered wings and sputtering jump jets struggling to steady themselves as they plummet into the sand, separating as they roll wildly over the hills, their armored suits sending chips of sparking circuits and chunks of bleeding chitin flying away. They stop, nearly ten meters apart, and Lyle hoists himself up, stripping off dead and dying armored plating as Mauser ejects himself from his shattered drop suit.“Damn conditions.” Lyle grumbles as he wipes blood from his mouth. “First it's some officer whining about some old tower 'oh but it was the first thing the settlers built,'” he says in a mocking tone. “And filled with armed combatants to boot, yea. Now I gotta tip toe around a pile of rocks some snake people made 'cuz it looks pretty.” Lyle stands up as he kicks a clawed boot from his foot, sending it arcing through the sky as Mauser pulls a large, humming machete shaped vibroblade from his suit's pack, and Lyle extends his own arm blades, and the two charge each other, their weapons clashing with a burst of sparks that flash against the dimly lit dunes beneath the star filled, cloudless sky. Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!>Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone>FAQ ask.fm/QuestDrone>Discussion page http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest_talk:Hive_Queen_Quest
>>48103589Sorry lyle, Anons are pussies
>>48103639I like to think it spices things up
>>48103589"Oh don't whine Lyle, at least there weren't any snake cyborgs attacking you like the last time i came here."
>>48103589Are you still gonna open up quantum commms improvement research?Would be nice to add that to the pile sooner than later.
>>48103589Gotta make sure to recover or destroy all our lost equipment at the end of this. Don't want to leave any of that stuff lying around.Also, Lyle's totally got this fight. His augs are second to none and reinforcements are (should be?) in route.
>>48103709I think we need to ask Theseus for a shared research project for that, could also add the smith head.
>>48103735Probably true.I think Theseus would actually be virtually ideal for a joint research project on the Psionic Cannon. He's definitely as "blind" as they come, but is a far more trustworthy (and efficient) researcher and constructor than the humans.
>>48103763Not sure on the joint Psionic Cannon idea.
>>48103772Well he's an AI, that's pretty much as impervious to psionic manipulation as one can get.
>>48103789Is it? I have no idea how void psionics work.
>>48103763That's actually a good idea. Actually probably get everyone involved in that at the end once we've researched everything else. Theseus is blind, Heretic has experience and knows about the dangers better than anyone else, and the Hive is the most psionically capable. Just play to each of our strengths and split up the work in such a way as to minimise the danger.
>>48103589The computer continues to track the new shuttle as the formation of fighters intercept it, and they begin to change course, moving together back in the direction of the valen colony, and a limb pulls the ship down to a lower altitude, scraping a dune as the cargo bay opens, scooping sand and debris into the belly of the ship as Jackob and Dillon leap the short distance to the ramp and the ship ascends again as the large, bulky shuttle continues to close in. As the Angel rises into the air, you can see the shuttle touch down, and a squad of humanoid robotic puppets leap to the ground as they begin to search through the debris.Coil is conflicted, his minds examining the situation and requesting guidance from the hive.>Have Coil provide air support and pick up Lyle>Have Lyle disengage combat and get to the angel>Have the Angel wait as long as possible until more valen arrive to investigate>Other (write in)
>>48103805Yeah this is probably the best way to go about that when we eventually get to it
>>48103813>>Have Coil provide air support and pick up Lyle
>>48103813>>Have Coil provide air support and pick up LyleTime to get our operators out of the area.
>>48103803As far as we know, all psionically capable beings are so because they grew structures in their brain that allow them to pick up tachyons.Mom may have done something to humans that rendered them mostly blind, but theres still some of that residual capability left, as shown by Steiner Sr. and Killinger's experiments.Artificial intelligences, being synthetic beings, are totally incapable of spontaneously growing psionic receptors, as far as our knowledge of psionics tell us.
>>48103813>Have Coil provide air support and pick up LyleBut only if he is losing, let him have his fight.
>>48103813>>Have Coil provide air support and pick up LyleWe don't need to get detected here and give the Union a "legitimate" excuse for being here and destroying ruins. The situation is completely fucked, as intended. Now we need to GTFO without revealing the other cards we have in play.
>>48103813>Have Coil provide air support and pick up Lyle
>>48103589Dammit Lyle, those rocks belong in a museum!>>48103813>>Have the Angel wait as long as possible until more valen arrive to investigateI want Mauser alive and intact as possible for the Valen to blow their top off, and Coil doesn't have a great track record in that regard. Sides, Lyle seems to be doing okay.Coil should pick up Jackob and co at this point though, I suspect Calhoun could use a dip in the medi pod.
>>48103855We don't actually know this for sure, and having Theseus attempt to fire the cannon will inevitably draw the crystals' attention to him. Not sure if I want to do that to him.
>>48103855This, mostly. Theseus would have to study psionics and build some sort of device to detect and interact with psionics to become aware and not "blind", but it would be like the reverse case of us and technology vs biology, where we suck at it and will never be as good at as Theseus while we're awesome at biology and vice versa.
>>48103813>Have Coil provide air support and pick up LylePlease roll 2d100, the first for Lyle trying to wrap things up on his own as a point of pride, the second for Coil bringing the thunder.
Rolled 72, 18 = 90 (2d100)>>48103907For Mother
Rolled 55, 12 = 67 (2d100)>>48103907FOR COIL
Rolled 70, 74 = 144 (2d100)>>48103907FOR MOTHER
Rolled 83, 42 = 125 (2d100)>>48103907It's time.
Rolled 32, 43 = 75 (2d100)>>48103907HERE WE GOFOR MOTHER
>>48103896>>48103903This is possible, but one other advantage Theseus has when studying psionics is that he is a distributed, as opposed to a centralized hive intelligence. It's possible he may be able to cut off infected "Theseus" instances without us losing the whole intelligence and our ally.
>>48103896The Confederacy managed to build and fire the Psionic Cannon several times, and it was destroyed due to the volatile nature of the gun rather than being attacked by the Void Crystals.I'm reasonably sure that it'll be the same thing with Theseus, but regardless he has to make an informed decision in the matter.I'm sure Heretic will be happy to go along regardless.
>>48103903Damn, I meant detect and interact with tachyons there.
>>48103938I thought they only managed to get off one shot with it before things started exploding.
i'm looking forward to when we go back to messing with the commonwealth diplomat.weird, some words i didn't mean to write i did without remembering writing them
>>48103982Yeah, queeny and her drones fucking with people is always a highlight.
>>48103982Yeah, Anon, I'm really looking forward to that too. Wise's new eyes (even without all the bells and whistles upgrades) should give him a new perspective (ha) on us. It'll be nice seeing how we can confuse all the highly trained and paid xenos specialists the Commonwealth can throw at us.
Scouting pods when?
>>48103981They fired it three times before it fucked up.>>39454735>The cannon fires. You feel the hollow scream of the crystal shard as it cracks from the force, and a dozen of the human ships are gone. There is cheering in the firing chamber, and someone orders the devices to be fired again.>>39455272>The next shot sweeps across a wing of advancing ships, reducing them to a shower of slag.>The cannon fires again from its position several kilometers away, but something is wrong. You can feel the energy flow poorly, through misaligned conduits.Though i'm not sure anymore if it was the design of the cannon itself that failed or whether the bombardment from the Union fleet messed up something. These things are apparently fragile as fuck.
>>48104042Next week, looks like.
>>48104056Interesting, didn't our mother only get 3 shots off as well. Maybe there's some flaw in the design our thinkers didn't account for that limits the gun to 3 shots?
>>48104086We'd need more data to prove that, since on both occasions the weapon was damaged by the time it fired its final shot. In Mother's case her Hiveship was being eaten up by the Void avatar thing and for the humans the nuclear bombardment from the Union Fleet.Though it would be a good idea to have backups of the cannon in the event that that is the case.
>>48103907Lyle lunges with his arms, stabbing at the air as Mauser evades, swinging his vibroblade to parry and bringing his forehead into Lyle's with a loud thud that sends Lyle stumbling back several steps. Mauser flips his bade in his hands as he hops in his stance, a mixture of Gemanise style Grav Maga with a clear influence of some kind of gutter boxing style Lyle isn't familiar with by name, but has take a punch or two from."What's the matter, chrome dome, they forgot to reinforce that thick stull of yours?" He says. Lyle spits a bit of blood and laughs."So you do talk. And here I thought the Union kept their dogs on a shorter leash then that." Mauser wings his blade at the comment, Lyle parrying it with a wing of his arm as he catches his other blade along Mauser's arm. He jerks his arm up, sending the blade searing through flesh and spraying blood across his armored skinsuit. Mauser acknowledges the three inch deep gash along his arm with a mild grunt, and brings the bleeding elbow into Lyle's nose with a loud crack, grabbing his arm as Lyle leans back and pulling him in again as his arm tries to hook around Lyle's head. He ducks and sends a sweeping kick to Mauser's legs, sending him sprawling to the sand.Lyle dives in, both elbows held out as his blades slide through the forearm to drive through Mauser's chest. Mauser rolls to the side, bringing his foot up into Lyle's chin as his blades slice through his calf, and Mauser swings his own blade in response, slicing off Lyle's left ear as he parries the blade, sparks illuminating the night as he strikes the blade arm with his pistol sledge. The arm snaps at a sudden right angle, rebounding back with the rubbery elasticity of the surrounding muscle as the bone within erupts from beneath the skin.Cont.
>>48104200I'll be honest here, I kinda want to parasite Mauser, and then have him and Lyle have Buddy-cop adventures in spaceLyle's a loose cannon that doesn't play by the rulesMauser is a loyal soldier, following all the regulationsTogether, they fight the tyranny of the void lords and the Black Queen!
>>48104236Would be hilarious but Lyle wants his "honorable gladiatorial fight" so someone's gonna die.
>>48104236Release some spare flies from the Angel to track him and implant him later I guess.
>>48104296The Queen should really install a Small Egglayer in the Hel's Angel if they haven't already
>>48104295Lyle will "want" whatever we tell him to want!For real, though, Mauser will probably die here unless we intervene to save him. It's possible Lyle will leave him alive out of some insane fellowship between drop troopers, or to boost his fame or enjoy the next fight, but in all probability Mauser's death will happen unless we say no.
>>48104352And i don't want to say no, let Lyle have his fun.Besides, what use do we have of two badass droptroopers?
>>48104352The valen are doing a search and can probably follow the trail of destruction And if he is still alive they will add him to the rest of the prisoners and we can infect him later
>>48104383You don't want to load them up with as much awesome weaponry we have, point them at the Black Queen and say "Have fun you two"?>"Whoever kills more gets a prize!"
>>48104383Copying his subtly different skill set.
>>48104200Mauser grabs the arm, pulling close as he brings his foot up, and with a stomping motion kicks clean through Lyle's knee, cracking the chitin armor and hyper extending the artificial muscles with a soft, springy click. Mauser's foot rebounds, and comes down again with a sound like a steel cable snapping and the knee bends back an inch.Lyle brings his fist into Mauser's ribs, cracking three on contact, and he extends his blade, aiming for the spleen. Mauser lets out a stifled shout and brings an elbow into Lyle's face, cracking his eye socket and they both reel back. Mauser stumbles, gripping his flopping arm that still holds his vibroblade, while Lyle quickly limps back, bringing his knee back into place with a sickening crack that you are certain it was not supposed to make when you designed it."Any part of you left that's human?" Mauser says, changing the grip of his blade to his other hand. "Or are you just a rogue Smith at this point?"The two of them stand among the dunes catching their breath, both locked eye to eye as they stand in their almost-faltering stances."You think it's yer arms and legs that make you human?" Lyle says suddenly. "I know cunts born with less than that.""I bet, Tarwin's got quite the problem with mutations. Too much sun." He says, his voice biting down like a wolf striking at the throat as the fainted reaction fires across Lyle's face. "I'd recognize Ingalasangwe anywhere. It's a bigger giveaway than the accent." Mauser flips his blade in his hands, keeping its momentum up as."Don't push it. I've been enjoying our scrap so far." Lyle says, and spits a tooth. Mauser scrunches his nose."I bet you have, prim. I just see it as animal control." Lyle charges, his knee crunching with each leaping step, and Mauser swings his blade. The two collide, their blades sinking into each other as they fall off the edge of a dune, trailing blood as they roll to the bottom of the shifting dune.Cont.
>>48104383We can create a clone of Lyle and Mauser. Double the badass all in one convenient package!
>>48104410>You don't want to load them up with as much awesome weaponry we have, point them at the Black Queen and say "Have fun you two"?>>"Whoever kills more gets a prize!"Tempting, but anything involving OQ will be space battles or full scale planetary warfare, not only are they obvious targets and not used to hive on hive war, but also are probably weaker than our heavy warriors and colossi. Just use Lyle against the union occasionaly.>>48104426This however gives me an idea of taking his head and getting a droptrooper specialization for our clones.
>>48104433Aw dont be a cunt now, Mauser.
>>48104433Wait what. Mauser's arm broke not Lyle's?>Mauser swings his own blade in response, slicing off Lyle's left ear as he parries the blade, sparks illuminating the night as he strikes the blade arm with his pistol sledge.I can't handle pronouns it seems.
>>48104476Probably Lyles martial style.
>>48104476>>48104476Space South African-Australian
>>48104295>>48104352>>48104383Lyle can have his fun by cutting Mauser's head off in combat.Then we steal the head and use memories for training simulations.
>>48104433What an absolute, unredeemable, asshole. I was going to vote for saving Mauser after this, or at least capturing him.Now, I don't give a fuck. Kick his shit in Lyle! Kill his ass dead!
>>48104483>>48104485K whats he mean with "prim"?primitive? primate? that context was a followup insult right?
>>48104433>IngalasangweSo, any guesses as to what this word means?
>>48104498Pretty much, i assume. He's just bein an ass, though if its tactical in nature or not i dunno
>>48104509Well that came up after saying mutations and also got the rise in lyle So maybe it refers to a stable breed of mutie that considered sub human?
>>48104494We need him to be a Valen prisoner.And we'll want a parasite so we know what they talk about.
>>48104509Probably identified Lyles fighting style as something from Tarwin. Thats my guess.
>>48104529I doubt that would be possible in a mere 200 years, but I think you may be right about the mutations. Mauser appears to be trying to antagonize Lyle as much as possible so I would assume it was some kind of disparaging remark about some ethnic background or genetic makeup.
>>48104433The two separate, tumbling uncontrollably as they both come to a stop in the sand, blood pooling around each of them. Mauser shifts his weight and rolls to the side, struggling to stand as he stumbles to his feet. He spits a glob of blood at his feet."You don't even bleed right." He says. Lyle scoots his undamaged leg against the sand and slides himself up the dune's slope."I bleed just fine." Lyle says. "Give me a good half hour, I'll be ready for round two. You?" He spits a shattered tooth absent mindedly as he twists his knee back and forth with a grinding noise, trying to pop it back into place. Mauser continues breath heavily, gasping as blood drips across the sand at his feet from the deep wounds along his side and the split flesh of his arm. In the distance, the whine of the Angel's engines begin to fade through the wind. Mauser stumbles, but catches himself in time, if only barely, his vibroblade sinking into the sand at his feet as he presses the wounds between his ribs.""I thought not." Lyle says as the two maintain eye contact. The growing whine of the Angel's engines begins to drown out the sounds of distant animals and the whipping wind, its cloak dropping in the sky as it closes in."So what's your plan now?" Mauser says, his arm struggling, and finally gripping the hilt of his blade as he pulls it free from the sand.>Have Lyle finish the fight>Leave Mauser in the desert alone>Leave him in the desert, drop a crate of water behind>Other (write in)
>>48104592>>Have Lyle finish the fightFINISH HIM
>>48104592>>Other (write in)Ask lyle to subdue him and put him on the angel. Rip off his arms and legs to prevent escape if he thinks he'll survive itIf not, >Have Lyle finish the fightTHough I'd bet good money he'll come back as a smith alter if we don't grab him here
>>48104592Leave it up to Lyle. Mauser made it personal, let our boy decide the outcome.
>>48104592>Have Lyle finish the fightKnock him out and make it easy for the valen to find himFigure if we leave him alive and awake he probably go to ground and evade the search parties using uber solider survival skills So we are going to need to gift wrap him for the valen
>>48104592>>Leave him in the desert, drop a crate of water behindThe Valen have to find him.Parasited.
>>48104621If this option wins we have to shoot a flare to make it easy.
>>48104592>Other (write in)Take him with us.
>>48104592Oh man this is a tough one. QD has an impressive capacity to make even the most unlikable of NPCs useful and relatable, but this one is particularly unlikable. That, and I am not willing to let him free to talk about our agent's tech and abilities. Decisions, decisions...
>>48104592>Leave Mauser for dead in the desert>Leave him in the desert with water for the valen to find>Have Lyle finish the fight>Let Lyle decide himself>Other
>>48104630Drop him in the path of a Valen shuttle?
>>48104635>let lyle decide
>>48104635>Leave him in the desert with water for the valen to find
>>48104592>>48104615This, he's out here exclusively in response to Lyle, it should be his call on how to end it. But if he does let him leave, he's getting a parasite.
>>48104635>>Let Lyle decide himself
>>48104635>>Leave him in the desert with water for the valen to findI am a surprised we don't have parasites and flies on the Angel.
>>48104635>Let Lyle decide himself
>>48104635>>Let Lyle decide himself>>If he does let him live, give him a parasite before leaving.
>>48104635>Let Lyle decide himself.>>48104646I agree to parasite, shouldn't even need a vote.
>>48104635>>Leave him in the desert with water for the valen to find
>>48104635>Let Lyle decide himself>OtherSend drones to investigate the ruins.
>>48104655Why, when we have every motive to want Valen to find him.
>>48104669>OtherSend drones to investigate the ruins.Sorry man but we aren't going to be able to do that with the valen actively sending search parties through the whole area
>>48104669THIS.Also when should we initiate first contact? When Lyle returns or when Theseus leaks the edited footage?
>>48104669We don't have drones.
>>48104690Literally every member of the hive except the queen is a drone, actually
>>48104681This is one of the narrative moments that pops up and make us players figure and establish our boundaries to how much character development we want the npcs to have
>>48104690Looks like we'll be adding Aral to the list of planets we'll be setting up spy hives on then.
>>48104704wait more like player agency/control
>>48104690>We never had drones.>They were all holograms.>When Lyle fought us, the drones were holograms.>When Dr.seiner studied our drones, they were holograms.>When we boarded OQ, they were holograms.>When we fought the scavangers, they were holograms.>even the ships are holograms.
>>48104635Why can't we parasite him? Do we have to explicitly pack parasites in the Angel, I thought drone amounts were automated now.
>>48104720>everything is holograms>we were just high off Leeland's poison spores the whole time
>>48104731may not have the time and he can still put up a fight
>>48104733>hologramsWe are the holograms!
>>48104704Let NPCs decide is the coward's way out.
>>48104740But who made the red queen hologram?
>>48104731They are but mission specific loadouts like that are a tricky area. Also Jackob and Dillon are onboard, it might raise questions.
>>48104743No its not It just allows character growth in npcs and allow them to be better fleshed out instead of just being a prop to whatever we do
>>48104743I dont think it is. I know what id do, but i think this choicell be more interesting, personally.
>>48104746Horny nerd who wanted to waifu a Hive Mind
>>48104635>Let Lyle decide himselfThe angle drifts over the dune, sending sand flying in all directions. The cargo ramp lowers nearby as the ship touches down. Lyle glances to it and back in contemplation."You don't fuckin' know tarwinians, man." He says as Jackob runs from the cargo bay in a bloodied jumpsuit, quickly pulling Lyle's arm over his shoulder and aiming his sidearm at Mauser in the same motion. Lyle waves his arm down."Cunt's well and done, mate." He says and glares back at Mauser. Jackob quickly begins bringing Lyle back into the ship, he damaged leg dragging a line through the sand."You're wrong about one thing." Mauser says, almost inaudibly, and he drops to one knee, then lands on the side of a dune as the Angel begins gaining altitude and drifts away, enveloping itself in a layer of bent light. Mauser is still for a long while before he rips a strip from his torn skinsuit and begins slowly wrapping his arm. He grabs his wrist, and with a quick snap, forces the bone back through the skin. In the distance, a crate falls from the sky, shattering on impact and scattering its contents across the sand. Mauser slowly forces himself to stand, and you watch him stumble his way across the frigid desert by starlight as his form shrinks with distance in the endless dune sea.Cont.
>>48104788So it was Lee?"it was me Elizabeth, it was all me."
>>48104749That's what air ducts and camouflage are for.
>>48104797Aw snap, character development ahoy!
>>48104797>The angle drifts over the dune
>>48104797Lyle has accepted him as a rival then?
>>48104797There's a parasite and a fly inside that crate of water, right?
>The black queen stole 40 relays.>That's as much as 4 tenths.>And that's horrible.
>>48104863Fetch isn't going to happen.
>>48104797Your ambassador stands well above the other humans as the doctors examine Wise's new eyes, having been testing them ever since the bandages were removed. His discolored, yellow irises and the dark green of the sclera attracting occasional glances from the other workers in the small lab, his eye contact almost immediately averted when returned to the gawking technicians."And you have felt no ill effects from the surgery?" A doctor in a hazmat suit says."None. In fact, they feel perfect, even my old ones had some irritation." Wise says. "Better clarity too, and I think it has an extended range of vision.""Actually that's likely just because your old models had issues with certain hues, the color quality was lowered for the night vision. Speaking of which, how is it?" The doctor asks. Wise blinks purposefully as he looks around."I can hardly tell if the lights are out anymore." Wise replies. The doctors write various things in their notes, and you hear some distant crash and an uproar of voices. A moment later the door to the small area where your drone and Wise have been quarantined opens, and the Grand Marshal steps through, chased by various guards and advisors who seem to try to stop him, but almost dive out of his way as he barrels through. He steps up in front of your drone, his face stern and tense, taller than his hologram, his uniform filled with the obvious shape of a dense, muscular frame that the low resolution telepresence image failed to capture. There is a scar running down his cheek, from the side of his eye to his chin, also either not picked up or removed by his holographic image, and the eye in question is the slightest of shades lighter than the other, possibly from the injury that gave him the scar, or from the resulting medical treatment."We need to talk." He says. "Follow me." And with that, he turns, walking back towards the door.Cont.
>>48104952The head has to be obsidian black, although that gives me another idea.>The red queen stole 40 techs.>That's as much as 4 tens.>And that's great.
>>48104973>"We need to talk." He says. "Follow me." And with that, he turns, walking back towards the door.Oh boy, what didn he find out?
>>48104973OH BOY!THIS IS EITHER GREAT OR TERRIBLE!
>>48104973>"We need to talk." He says. "Follow me."A wedding proposal?
>>48104973FuckPlease just let it be about the scavs The union shouldn't have started the war yet? Or, Fuck you think it could be auntie launching a full scale invasion of human space?
>>48104973He said fuck it to quarantine protocols!He's a loose cannon!Really thirsty for eye upgrades is he?We can read his emotions now passively to find out.
Remember, if he thinks we're 'contacting' anyone else, just say that's another hive that split off from us for some silly reason (as opposed to the black hive which are a bunch of dirty evil mother-killing cunts).
>>48104988He found out pics of giant bugs are on the Union internet from months ago.
>>48105029Oh man this is going to be good...
>>48105029Fuck, I forgot that those were public.
>>48105022To expand on this, if he needs a reason to hate the black queen, just say that in our few contacts she bragged about selling the earth monkeys a faulty weapon that destroyed their home.
>>48105029We just play it cool. The Hive on Leeland is totally not us. Some other, hidden Hive. And for good reason. Then warn him about OQ and Void Cystals.
>>48105029>>48105048>>48105051"Bah those [incomprehensible chittering] are always getting themselves into trouble not like our glorious hive"
>>48105029FUCCCK Maybe one of their spies gave the whatever files the union had on our drones and they recognized our speaker
I'd rather come slightly clean and tell him killinger tried to dissect us, but only that.
>>48105073Doesn't matter. We never actually lied.The fact we talked to Lee and were attacked by a metal man wasn't important.
Lets just say that one of the Hive's colony ships had a scuffle with Unity and crash-landed on Leeland, where they played dumb until the rest of our fleet caught up with them and we simply didn't bother to update the Union since they apparently tried to cheat us out.
>>48105083>We never actually lied.This too, all we wanted was to build a hive in peace, but then Dr.seiner wrote his paper on enslaving us, and that's bad.
>>48105073>>48105022>>48105064Well really, spessbugs having many separate hives is actually technically true. Hell I bet he's going to outright ask about other possible hives and that'll be perfect time to tell him about OQ being a bitch.>>48105083And we still don't really need to lie about much of anything.Also we could probably slip in hints about void crystals. Just don't phrase it as cthulhus, just aggressive alien species that's backing the ceph.
>>48105029I really want them to find out we know far more about them than we've let on and then be incredibly cheeky when we explain that everything we've done is just for show, to lure them into complacency while we evaluated them.
>>48105082No, only that we spoke to Lee and Mr smith paid a visit. And wasn't even tasty. They can infer from the latter that they wanted to dissect us.
>>48105073>>48105075>>48105077But why would we pretend that we're not the same creatures as the ones found on Leeland? It was only a matter of time until someone in the Commonwealth made the connection, anyone with access to Union prime time cable would have seen those images and made the connection. This is an honest attempt at diplomacy we're angling for with these guys, why not just come out and say it? We can tell them the truth, that this was a world on the edge of our territory that we were in the early stages of settling when the Union arrived. We have since then been very dissapointed with their duplicitous nature, and have been cautiously approaching the Commonwealth in the hopes that they were better than that. And so far, they have been.
>>48105109>This is an honest attempt at diplomacy we're angling for with these guys, why not just come out and say it?Even best diplomacy is "mostly" honest.For example "going from stickpickers to humongous space fleet in month" is going to freak him out.So it's easier to just say that the leeland is a seedling rather than the root.
>>48105109Nobody is honest in this universe. Wait till we can read their minds memories.
>>48105109But first we have to know WHAT has gotten him so agitated. We're still going on conjecture at this point.Its possible that it could be something else entirely.
>>48104973Your drone stands confused, unsure of how to respond until you nudge it forward and your drone catches up with its graceful stride, each step slowly taking the place of several of a human's as Magnus's aids and advisors reel back from your drone, covering their mouths or simply fleeing from you altogether."Admiral, the containment, we're still under quarantine we have no idea-""Docs say they're cleaner than us. That's good enough for me and we don't have any more time to pussy foot arround." He says. The advisor stammers out the first half of a word but he snaps his hand up to cut him off, the aid's mouth shutting before he even fully stopped speaking. You continue following him as his aids slowly resume their orbit, passing him papers and tablets of data that he reads for a moment and passes to another aid with the occasional comment or correction. They begin to dissipate as you enter a long hallway, and he shouts without looking."Wise! You too."Wise almost sprints to catch up as he places his palm on a contact on the door and it opens, revealing a large circular room filled with holographic images, stars, nebulae, glowing graphics indicating hostile activity or fleet positions. You can almost get a measure of the constellations, but the scale and the graphic layout prevents it from becoming too obvious, which is likely the intention of it. The communications officers working the many terminals around the wall of the room, and several highly decorated officers amid the holograms look up to gawk at your drone, who nearly scrapes the vaulted ceiling with its antennae."Status report." He barks. Several of the communications officers look back to their consoles."No change, admiral. The Imperial Fleet is still unaccounted for, Prince Reuenthal's personal flagship among them. We still have Q-com contact, but they have not responded to any communication attempts.cont.
>>48105109Were nation states not people of course we spy and make sure we have a good poker face on at all times
>>48105123Fuck please be the scavsNot auntieNot unionNot cephFUCK NOT VOID
>>48105123Well then, looks like something went tits-up and they want emergency help.That's a very very juicy opportunity.
>>48105109Don't be a naive moron. They aren't better. But they may be more useful and exploitable.
>>48105131It's Auntie Ceph of the Void Union.
>>48105123What. But reuenthal. Died at Toliman. Surely those ships are accounted for.
>>48105166What if that baby void shard called in the rest of them and they just ate the humie fleets in the system?
Didn't we send a replacement pod to Toliman after our last pod banzai'd Killinger's stealth ship?
>>48105183I think we would have noticed.
>>48105185I think we had a ship cloaked in the system
>>48105185Pretty sure we did, hell, we saw the crystal being towed by the commonwealth.
>>48105192>theyre not responding>they picked up the crystalWe need to drop the act. Ask them about the fucking crystal. Shit could go real south real fast.WHAT DID YOU DUMB APES DO WITH THE CRYSTAL?
>explain OQ business>the add something like "You may also want to know about another aggressive species we have encountered. They use crystalline objects [void crystal description goes here] as their means of FTL movement and communication. Attempting to interface with those object alerts them and they use the object as focus for immediate invasion.">>48105208Yeah really. We need to explain SHIT'S BAD YO
Sometimes i really hate this quest Going to give me a heart attack But its just so good
>>48105123"ETA?" Magnus asks calmly."If course and speed remain within the typical safe speeds of the fleet, less than an hour now, although the wall does put in some variability on their emergence location."Magnus pinches the bridge of his nose."What about his royal pain in the ass?" He says. "Has anyone managed to get Emperor Reuenthal on the horn?""Negative, only the court. He's reportedly in his medical tank a-""Damnit, when's that piece of shit gonna do us the favor and keel over?" Magnus shouts. He breaths deeply, and turns to you."Something happened. You see, those rebels you've heard about, well, they recently killed one of our high ranking officials. It wasn't there fault, it was an accident at best, gross negligence on our officer's part at worst, but incompetence runs in his family and his system happens to use family to decide leadership, so." He claps his hands, rubbing them together with an angry exasperation. "When a source from said rebels turns up evidence of a pre-emptive strike on our salvage operation in that system, this dead officer's brother demands me to let him lead his own pre-emptive strike. I tell him no, the source is a damn fake, and even if they did attack the public opinion of a war they started would be atrocious. Well, the inbred, goddamn slab of human garbage!" He says, his voice resounding with barely restrained anger. "Has taken it upon himself to do my job for me."The holograms change, zooming in on a section of stars covered in a nebula. It zooms in again, showing a binary star system, and then again, expanding the system into a ballooned out of scale model showing the tense standoff between Union and Commonwealth forces.cont.
>>48105149Like I said, better.
>>48105224This. Also inform them that the Ceph are a slave race of this species.
>>48105244Ahh yes, familial monarchies.This is just like my Crusader Kings.
>>48105244K We can calm down and lower the panic levels Its just the union Get back to breathing normal and thank fuck we finished that op on aral
>>48105208They wouldn't KNOW anything. The Thunderchild doesn't even know what's in the box.
>>48105244Wait, Killinger is the fucking source isn't he?Dammit
>>48105244Damn. Just civil war crap. We don't involve ourselves in petty internal squables.
>>48105265Yeah, I panicked.When I saw the name of that admiral, and that things were apparently going wrong.Well, I assumed the worst.Lets just sit back and think about this rationally now.
>>48105244Hopefully the shitstorm we caused on aral will keep the union unbalanced and won't let them fight effectively for now
Duh you knee jerk morons. Crystals do not stop you from answering your calls.
>>48105286The problem is that if they want us to intervene, we're going to show up on the Union's radar real quick. Even if we don't show the faces of our drones, intelligence from spies in the Commonwealth will trickle through eventually.
>>48105286Yeah. It's not so bad. We still need to inform them about Void Crystals, Ceph and OQ.
>>48105294They do when they convert the entire ship's crew.
>>48105244FUCK YOU KILLINGER Thinking your all that
>>48105244"I need to know right now, no games, will we be able to count on you for help in our fight against those rattlers?" He says, his hand held in a knife edge pointed at your done, his tone surprisingly genuine. "I won't ask for your help in a conflict between humans. That's for us to settle, but things are about to get bad, and when we're stuck in a vice on two fronts, I need to know if you'll be on our side on one of them." Magnus maintains eye contact, staring your drone in a set of eyes chosen seemingly at random for lack of a better way to choose."Admiral, the Imperial Fleet is broadcasting a data stream. Five minutes to emergence." A Communications officer says. One of the heavily decorated admirals nearby, a tan looking man with his head wrapped in a large decorative looking headdress says something you don't understand, but the words hold some tone of reverence to them.>Offer the hive's full support against the scavengers>Offer the hive's support in exchange for something (write in)>Request further information (write in)>Refuse direct support>Other (write in)
>>48105295Why is attacking the union bad again?
>>48105298That's not how crystals work and you know it. They can't do anything that fast or thorough.
>>48105301>Offer the hive's full support against the scavengersFuck it not the best but we just cant afford for the commonwealth to fall right now call in the favor later
>>48105301>Offer the hive's full support against the scavengersGa durr?
>>48105310They can if the crew was psyonicly sensitive and superstitious.
>>48105301>Offer the hive's support in exchange for something (write in)A steady supply of canderon and trade routes
>>48105301>offer the hive's support against the scavengers, provided the humans give us, or contain to our satisfaction, the crystal>and yes, we do know your fleet is weaker than you want us to think it is
>>48105301>>Offer the hive's full support against the scavengersI would be okay with offering our direct aid against the Union (because fuck Killinger), but only after they began to overwhelm the Commonwealth and the war became one sided.
>>48105301>>Offer the hive's support in exchange for something (write in)Can we have a planetLike if you have a spare
>>48105301>>Offer the hive's full support against the scavengers
>>48105301>Offer the hive's full support against the scavengers>Request further information (write in)Tell us more about the situation with the Union, how have they been inciting tensions between the two of you>>48105304That'll throw a wrench into most of our sneeki breeki ops in Union space.
>>48105301>Offer the hive's full support against the scavengers.In fact, we shoud invade the scavengers right as this conversation is happening.
>>48105301>>Offer the hive's full support against the scavengersScavs are shit anyways
>>48105301Ifwe refuse, it motivates them to AVOID war.If we accept,war won't seem so bad.
So um how many ships will we send to the scav front lines then?Half our fleet? 60% ?
>>48105301>Offer the hive's full support against the scavengers>Offer the hive's support, but demand the crystal within the USV Mirage, by name>Offer the hive's support in exchange for access to canderon and trade access>Other
> everyone wanting to support the Commonwealth> when their existence is one of the biggest reasons for people to support the kingmaker bill and thereby KillingerIt's like y'all don't even politick
>>48105346>Offer the hive's full support against the scavengersJust too early to ask for anything Can try to gain stuff afterwards
>>48105323Maybe we could request that they open trade with us for canderon. A lot of our finished products, like the holodecks, generators, or shield emitters, would be valuable to them and we can churn out as they could want. Then we can funnel the trade through the new space city we're planning on building.
>>48105295Let's just say it's our policy to not intervene in other races internal conflicts.>>48105298Don't humans have some sort of resistance? Or being invisible to the Void Crystals.>>48105301>Offer the hive's support in exchange for something (write in)In exchange for aide against the Void Crystals. Use this chance to inform them about the VC, OQ and Ceph.>Request further information (write in)This:>>48105332>Tell us more about the situation with the Union, how have they been inciting tensions between the two of you
>>48105346>>Offer the hive's full support against the scavengers
>>48105346>>Offer the hive's support in exchange for access to canderon
>>48105346>Offer the hive's support in exchange for access to canderon and trade accessWe can try and get the crystal through normal infiltration measures.
>>48105346>Offer the hive's support, but demand the crystal within the USV Mirage, by name"our sensors detect viotile material in the system where your fleet is, we want it."
>>48105350No one ever said that politics had to be 100% rational>Offer the hive's support in exchange for access to canderon and trade access
>>48105346>>Offer the hive's support in exchange for access to canderon and trade accessWe will trade with them fairly for it of course, so ultimately we can both benefit.
>>48105346>>Offer the hive's support in exchange for access to canderon and trade
>>48105346>offer the hive's support, but demand the crystal within the USV Mirage, by name
>>48105346>Offer the hive's support, but demand the crystal within the USV Mirage, by nameUse this chance to inform them about the VC, OQ and Ceph.
>>48105355>Don't humans have some sort of resistance? Or being invisible to the Void Crystals.They do, but we don't know if the commonwealth got rid of that advantage.
>>48105346>Offer the hive's support, but demand the crystal within the USV Mirage, by name>Offer the hive's support in exchange for access to canderon and trade accessHow about both?
>>48105346>Offer the hive's support, but demand the crystal within the USV Mirage, by name>Offer the hive's support in exchange for access to canderon and trade access
>>48105346 >Offer the hive's support, but demand the crystal within the USV Mirage, by name
>>48105346>>Offer the hive's support in exchange for access to canderon and trade accessFor the light gold in your ships!
>>48105346>Offer the hive's full support against the scavengersFuck the scavs. Leverage it for the crystal later.
>>48105380Yes. Both. Also we should have the speaker be ultra serious about this when before it has been aloof.
>>48105355Anti psi genes that mom put into them have been getting weaker over the generations and no longer working in some of them
>>48105365Let's not. They'll never accept a shitty deal like that and will set back our diplomatic efforts. More besides, it will tell them that we're involved in the same weapon that blew up the moon. Bad vibes.>>48105355Oh, let's do this. It's a pain in the ass to go around pretending we know nothing of the Union, this makes our getting involved in their shit much easier.
>>48105397I don't remember that.
>>48105346>Offer the hive's support in exchange for access to canderon and trade access
>>48105346>>Offer the hive's full support against the scavengers>>48105350Having a full fledged star nation under our debt > Ruining Killinger's career and humiliating him. Regardless of what we do the Union and the Commonwealth will always be at the brink of war so long as one of them exists.
>>48105346Ask for permission to terraform earth
>>48105376>>48105377>>48105378>>48105380>>48105387>>48105389Are you daft? This will instantly inform them we were behind the entire incident, that we're into the same shit that decided the battle for Earth, and that we've been bullshitting them from the get go, all in a single sentence! Are you giving any thought at all about the implications of this?
>>48105393Why not now? It's the perfect opportunity to inform them about the greater enemy that threatens all of us.
>>48105400They will only know we can detect crystals and consider them dangerous, them thinking we have knowledge about project moonraker will only be speculation.It's kinda like our version of canderon.
>>48105350Well what are we gonna do, make them STOP existing tomorrow?Anyway yes let us make symbiosis with you drone planets mother of humans.
>>48105420Tipping our hands on how the fuck do we know all that.
>>48105418Unless we use this phrase >>48105365 they'll just think i'ts our version of canderon.
>>48105426This. Just inform them hat the crystals are our enemies. They have captured our most hated enemy, and in exchange for our assistance, they must hand over the vile crystal. Say this with a completely straight face.
>>48105420See>>48105418You assume they'll even believe our crazy talk of eldritch abominations while we casually drop the fact that our mom decided the disastrous conclusion of their last war with the Union, and that we are responsible for starting the current one.
>>48105418How? They don't have any substantial proof it was us.We can simply dress up our demand or knowledge of it as mystical bullshit. And that's just one option.
>>48105456>Just inform them hat the crystals are our enemiesNah, just tell them it's more dangerous than canderon and we need to contain it.
>>48105457We don't tell them everything. Just tell them about the crystals and what they're capable of. That they enslaved the Ceph and other races, even one of our own, and that they are a threat to both the Commonwealth and the Union.It's in there own best interest to help us.
Dude aint in a mood for mystical bullshit He wants yes or no and straight talk about a known problemSo no cheek and all serious now So talking about the void crystals will be insulting considering the situation there are in
>>48105475I agree with the other guy that telling them of the void gods is stupid.
>we have detected traces of FTL comms of another of our enemies from some points in your space, such as [Earth] and [Toliman]. Those things are dangerous and we would like you to hand them over for containment in exchange for our helpHow about that?
>>48105460And you assume they would just buy that shit? They have no reason to believe anything we tell them, they know absolutely nothing about us and we haven't done anything to build up any trust with them. And out of the blue we demand they fork over a one of kind artifact that they are well aware of as being capable of blowing up entire fleets with a single shot. How the fuck do you think they will react?
>>48105468I was going for some humour there. On second thought it would be funnier if it's not with a straight face.
>>48105489Anons are use to civ quests where the other factions are run by morons and can get away with saying stupid shit
>>48105485>Traces of FTL comms>Implying we can wiretap quantum relaysDo you even know how they work? That's probably the most implausible idea suggested so far.
>>48105346>Offer the hive's support, but demand the crystal within the USV Mirage, by nameWe need to get our hands at all crystals that humans have.Either we tell them what we know and hope that they wont try to trick us by continuing researhing them.Or we sent agents in all their military labs in search of them.
>>48105485I'd remove the bit about FTL and enemies, just say that we detected dangerous material and we want it.>>48105498Too much information in a crutial moment, we can tell them when they ask why the crystal is dangerous.
>>48105476We can mention the crystals as a condition after we give our answer.Also, considering what's going on, I think they might attempt to broadcast our little agreement here. But that's just a pointless shadowrun.>>48105485Looks good.>>48105489>they know nothing about usThey know we have fuckhueg fleets and are masters of biology.>nothing to build up trustWe've fought the scavs with them, and helped out Wise.>out of the blue... artifact.. single shot.Again, we can dress our demand up in bullshit. Claim we have a special sensor, or interrogated a captive (that doesn't exist) of one of our enemies the Commonwealth hasn't met, who told us the Union had the crystal.There are cover stories.
>>48105505>Do you even know how they work?Not the HUMAN ftl comms, the crystals you idjit.We DO sense those.
>>48105513>crutial momentthat's the best time to discuss this with them
>>48105513Even telling them that we've detected it means indirectly revealing that we have cloaking technology and are responsible for the collapse of the negotiations at Toliman and propelling the Commonwealth into a war they cannot win. Why do you think this is a good idea?
>>48105529No, they want our cooperation against the scavs, telling them everything now is for the third or fourth date.
Also demand that they lock up the crystal and not even look at it in the mean time.
>>48105346>>Offer the hive's support in exchange for access to canderon and trade accessSounds good to me.
>>48105538>Even telling them that we've detected it means indirectly revealing that we have cloaking technologyNo it dosn't, They don't know how we communicate and they don't know how we found the crystal, They will only know we have FTL communication like Q-coms that is in relation with the crystal.
>>48105346"The Hive will require access to your strategic resources. Your way of travel." Your drone says. Magnus looks to the floor in contemplation."You mean canderon. That's spread thin across the fleet these days, but I we can cut rations and make due. I'll be able to requisition you a small amount at least, as well as education in proper containment methods. Is that it?" He says. Your drone lets out a low chirp."No." His eyes snap back to yours as your drone continues. "The wreckage of the Mirage." Your drone says as a clawed finger extends to the hologram of the gas giant in the room. "Recover its contents, with great care.""The Mirage?" He asks, and looks at the screen, then to the other admiral, who looks back with confusion, his hand resting on a small ornate dagger in his belt which he adjusts on his hip. Magnus turns back to you. "How... What's in there?""A small crystalline structure, likely within a damaged spherical container." Your drone says, keeping eye contact with the Marshal. "The Hive requires this." Magnus seems to try to starer your drone down. His gaze breaks as a holographic display of a carrier's flag bridge appear's projected in the room, as if the room itself were the bridge of the ship. He curses under his breath as the battle scanners show Ticonderoga station in the distance."Alright. You have it." He says, and he leans forward, placing his hands on the projector terminal in the center of the room as he examines the readouts. "Goddamn you, Conrad." He mutters. "If you were on our side you'd have my job."Grav-fighters drift from the rotating launch bays of the carrier, and the fleet around it continues to emerge from warp in a series of rapid, vibrant explosions of hard radiation. The fighters begin streaking towards the station, racing behind their own light signal.cont.
>>48105525Anon, try and see it from their perspective. A race of giant alien bugs with a terrifyingly huge fleet turned up out of nowhere and tore another alien race to shreds without so much as acknowledging your existence. Then a week later they show up, forcibly insist on opening up negotiations, and are now demanding you hand over the most potent super weapon ever made. You have no idea where these things came from, how their bodies or ships function, or even how they think and are now demanding the biggest WMD to ever exist in your hour of greatest need. That will be sure to win us friends, I'm sure.
Btw this would probally be the best moment to mention about hostile hive that may attack everyone it meets.We don't want these humans thinking that we suddenly decided to attack them
>>48105346>Offer the hive's full support against the scavengersWith all that argument, I'll just change my vote to this. Seems safest option.
>>48105574OH FOR FUCKS SAKE
>>48105574>Ticonderoga StationSo the Prince just bypassed Toliman and went straight to the nearest Union supply base?
>>48105575>without so much as acknowledging your existenceWe did acknowledge their existence when they hailed us with first contact protocols.> forcibly insist on opening up negotiationsForcibly? We just invited them to talk.>are now demanding you hand over the most potent super weapon ever madeThey don't even know it's a WMD.
>>48105587I'm sure he only chose both because it's safe.Russian guy might question the implications later though. We can claim clairvoyance.It's not far wrong, each crystal is a crystal ball.
>>48105358>>48105364>>48105367>>48105368>>48105369>>48105380>>48105387>>48105391>>48105405>>48105432For Canderon and trade.>>48105365>>48105376>>48105377>>48105380>>48105387>>48105389>>48105511For the Mirage.>>48105357>>48105393>>48105409>>48105562For unconditional support.>>48105574What the hell QD?
>>48105609>they don't even know it's a WMDAnd even if they did, it isn't a WMD. It's a finger or hair of something akin to a living galactic apocalypse.
>>48105630Ugh. Just leave it, its fine.
>>48105609Anyone who looked at the lunar death ray specs from the last war will realize what the crystal is.And odds are one admiral has looked at them.
>>48105630Some voted for both trade and Mirage.
>>48105574So what's going on? Who's attacking who? Who initiated this, and how do we not know about it? Shouldn't we have pods deployed to those systems? If not, blink in pods to better observe what is happening. It should be hard to detect during combat.
>>48105630It's fine he wouldn't screw us cuz a vote is close. Let's wait and see.
>>48105630He started writing before the last few votes were made.
>>48105655I'm going to cross my fingers and hope you're right.
>>48105649The brother of the Prince Reuenthal that was killed in Toliman wanted to attack the Union, the Admiral says no, the Prince attacks the Union anyway.
>>48105674The brother is an emperor, i think.
>>48105674Ah, thanks, that makes a lot of sense. Damn, after all that hard work to prevent a war, it looks like it's going to happen anyway.
>>48105690No, the emperor is apparently a decrepit old guy who needs frequent dipping in formaldehyde to remain in one piece. Which is what he's doing right this moment >>48105244
>>48105699Meh, we couldn't prevent war, only prolong peace.
>>48105703Oh, so we could actually path him up for them.
>>48105574"Adish." Magnus says. The other admiral turns his view to him from the hologram. "I know it's your jurisdiction, and you have every right to refuse, but I'd like you to take command of the border fleet and lead the charge against the aliens.""And who will lead the Hadrian fleet?" He asks. Magnus doesn't look up, keeping his eyes on the small screen that shows the detailed readouts of the fleet as it moves in."With your permission, I'll be taking command of that." He says. There is a massive explosion, blanketing the sensors in light and making the staff in the room squint. "What was that?""From what we can tell... the fleet is telling us there was an emergence overlap. A risk of warping through a nebula that thick, I suppose." A comm officer says flatly. "The Spangled Banner and the Crown's Litany, from what we can tell."You watch as the blast dissipates. Nothing is left. Not a trace of evidence two battlecruisers ever existed there. The admiral nods to Magnus."Very well." He says, and he walks up to your drone, extending a hand. "I am Admiral Adish Singh Yogesh. With any fortune, we will be able to work together in driving back this alien menace from both of our space."Cont.
We still need Theseus to leak edited footage of the fight.
Alright, anybody remembers the size of scav fleet? We still have a cloacked pod at their base, right?Do we invite our robot pals to the party?
>>48105723very carefully take his hand into your claw and give a firm up and down motion.
>>48105744We should consider Explosive Pod Party 2: Antimatter Boogaloo.
>>48105744Its to big to fight directly We need to destroy several of there raiding fleets and put them on the defensive
>>48105744Better if we don't let them see unity with us at this point.We can deals with scavs just fine with humans.
>>48105723Your drone awkwardly grips his hand in its claw, and he gives it a firm shake. He smiles. "We will make them pay for every world they have touched a hundred fold."Magnus stands up from the console, inhaling deeply, and he points to a technician at random."Contact the media bureau. We didn't want this hand but it's the one we've got, so we're playing it to the end. We've already lost the war of public opinion among the Union populace, now we need to make sure we win at least among our own. Tell them I'll be making a speech later today decrying the death of the second prince, hail the Imperial Fleet as martyrs, and offer an official declaration of war. We should be expecting a counter attack in Toliman within the hour, we need to hold that system and make sure we keep that salvage." He says as the fleets surrounding Ticonderoga station begin to undock, their own fighters quickly spreading out as anti-capital missiles are let loose from the station. The first impacts erupt across the station, relativistic impactors igniting across the station, enveloping it in thousands of kilotons of kinetic energy as the surrounding ships move into defencive positions.It's just about seven in the morning, so I think I'll have to call it here, although we can still run any crunch votes anyone wants to hold, and I'll stick around as long as I can stay awake.
>>48105775Can we still have that vote to start construction of a space city you mentioned in the last thread?
>>48105775Great thread QD thankyou
>>48105775Thanks for running QD. It's fun as always.
>>48105775Thanks for running!
>>48105775Ok thanks for the thread QD, Happy 4th of July.
>>48105775>inb4 they try messing with the crystal before giving it back to us
>>48105796Yes, although I'm not sure exactly how to manage the costs and abilities of them quite yet. Either way, if you'd like, you can begin construction now and decide on the design later once I have that ready, and you will just be assumed to have been building that design since now.>Y>N
>>48105775Votes for constructing capillary towers and space cities.
>>48105775Let's vote on Theseus leaking footage of our fight, edited so that our suits look human made, but not commonwealth or union, a third party design.>>48105796And this.
>>48105775Can we expand our control to Tannhauser, Desmond and A-295. We also need to build up production and defences at Farcast, Wonder, and M-323 in preparation for fighting the Scavengers.Did we send pods to all 4 unkown systems coreward, yet? We only had pods in 2 of them, we really need to investigate the other 2.
>>48105852>Build capillary tower (where, how many [1-4])>Build none>Other
>>48105850>>YI'm hoping we can use this as a depot for trade with the Commonwealth.
>>48105874>>Build capillary towerLeeland, 4.
>>48105775can you tell us how Decker's skillset is statted?We quantum comma miniaturization soon?
>>48105874>Build capillary tower (Leeland, 4)>Build capillary tower (Raligha, 4)
>>48105874>Build capillary towerMaximum.
>>48105874> Build capillary tower Here>>48105872
>>48105874>>48105896Start joint research with Theseus on smith head and quantum com miniaturization.
>>48105874>Build capillary tower (where, how many [1-4])Leeland add 1Farcast 4Also set Farcast development to max (i think that's 100, right?)
>>48105897Can we not build to the max on Raligha? Capilary towers fuck up the surrounding environment, and we're trying to keep the garden world mostly as is.
>>48105917And build weather spires in Farcast.
>>48105872That would likely cause some level of tension, if not outright aggression from the Union, as many of those systems are within the expanse, although they would not likely be willing to actually fight over the unsettled and largely barren systems.Tannhauser, however, would potentially cause some strife depending on how you handled it.Also, by current list of systems to be surveyed is:MufridSolLanwayCygniTiberionJewelFirst LandingBarnardHydraWolfLalandeProcyonAndromedaChandraLulalProcyonUnkown yellow starUnkown red dwarf GraythroneThe TwinsDistanceTurmoilThe SisterworldsHavenThe CommonsTempestStrife Helik TharKalideshPatherfound1-3TeegardenGroombridgeAndromedaAquariusLanstromLiononBorosKolobanLorensHypronKrasnodarBalkilareNekilemTuluuAlikesh Alin KrorkraNehiko Ta'harNexNowhereGodardHelDracoLet me know if you want a system added to the list.
>>48105872THIS! THIS! We've got to expand and consolidate our control of our space.>>48105874Leeland, 1
We can make our own full mods soon. We can stick a human brain in the body of a great white shark.
>>48105927jesus christ if you stat out all of those we'll have an entire thread of glorious exploitation of systemsand it will be glorious
>>48105874>>Build capillary tower (where, how many [1-4])Leeland 2Farcast 4
>>48105926Yeah, with Farcast just go Full on, build everything we can to maximum.And can we get that Derelict Sensor Array fully operational?
>>48105927Well in that case forget the siezure of Union territories. I'm all for espionage infiltration of Aral but claiming it for ourselves will require a more delicate touch.That said, I do want to immediately begin expanding infrastructure and defenses in the systems we already control, such as Farcast and M-233.
>>48105874Leeland 4Farcast 4Raligha 4
How much does terraforming Farcast cost?
>>48105927All of the unclaimed systems.
>>48105927What would it take to learn to mine canderon?Stealing the drills at Tellarum in the expanse?
>>48105927So many.This will take a while.
>>48105943Why. A pod does its job better
>>48105927Jesus, so many, can't you just make a thread on Friday to lighten the text dump?
>>48105927Can we prioritize investigating the Unknown Yellow Star and Unknown Red Dwarf, since we might be engaging the Scavengers soon.Also confirm that we've already investigated the Unkown Red Giant and Unknown Blue Giant already?
>>48105981.Read the bloody pastebin.
>>48105968>>48105977He mentioned he was planning on adding them to the pastebin 'for our viewing pleasure' during the week.
>>48105874>Build capillary towerLeeland 4Farcast 4Raligha 4
>>48105874Build 2 capillary towers
Leak footage when?
>>48105927Desmond and A-295, don't actually have a Union presence so taking them over is no big deal, and with the Union going to war with the Commonwealth, it's the perfect time. Also puts extra pressure on the Union, indirectly helping the Commonwealth.Tannhauser might be a bit harder to deal with, but it's right in the middle of our territory, is a very rich mineral world, and might potentially offer more research options via the Skyl ruins. I don't know if now is the ideal time to take it over from the Union, but it is something I'd like to plan on doing. The Valen can stay, we can negotiate terms with them, and it also provides us access to their gate, so trading with the rest of Valen space should become easier.
>>48106048If we're gonna build industry in Farcast, we need to terraform it for our farms.
>>48105874QD, how much disruption to the native environment would capillary towers cause?
>>48106058Why would we want those planets anyway? They don't have any value on their own. The fact that they are directly adjacent to the Union border with the Commonwealth will be sure to set of alarmbells though, as taking them would encircle the entire southern territory of the Union.
>>48106058Agree with this fully.We can always claim that we are just takin our ancient territory back or something.But we should be careful with tannhauser.Oh and I can't wait to finally see what that satellite is monitoring at a-295
We also need to send a speaker to earth for diplomacy with the robot.
>>48106348I would think sending a robot to earth for diplomacy with the robot would make more sense.
>>48106540nah robot needs to die, we need to help the Common Wealth Terraform Earth and help with the resettlement just to further rub mud in the Union's face.
>>48106348>>48106540>>48106557What robot on Earth?
>>48106540I did not think of that, genius.Also, thread not archived.
>>48106652Never mind, i forgot to reload the page.
>>48106599During our brief stay on Earth we discovered the primitive humans were worshipping and being commanded by some kind of VI.>>48106540I agree, we could totally make room for one of Theseus' dudes on a pod. We need to establish a stealth hive on Earth anyway.
did we ever got to informing theseus about the crystals? you know, it's effects and stuff. also afaik I remember us doing some joint research project on the UNITY home planet, can't we just initiate cooperated research there? I'm certain that we needed some research about programs and such which theseus would be good at, and theseus would love to know how tachyons work to manifest as psionics. and also both parties would be interested about what actually makes an entity psionic-able.
>>48107419Speaking of, whenever it's time we can probably shove off the Psychic cannon research to Theseus.
>>48107419If you're talking about the Void Crystals, we informed Theseus that we had recovered the Ceph drive from Lyle's ship way back, but refused a joint research project on the grounds that they were too dangerous to mess with after our initial attempt resulted in a chunk of the Hive ceasing to exist.Theseus specifically asked if it was more dangerous than a power tap, and when we replied yes he reluctantly agreed that it would be too risky.>theseus would love to know how tachyons work to manifest as psionicsDefinitely, but we have (for good reason) avoided sharing any sort of tachyon technology or information with him so far.Tachyons are simply too close to the heart of the Hive's function, and the risk is too great despite our friendly relationship.Remember that the first thing Theseus did when he worked out gravitational sensors was shoot down our cloaked pod and notify us of the event. Just because we have a good relationship doesn't mean that we both necessarily act in the other's best interests at all times, nor does it mean we'll remain friendly in the future.It's best we keep the Hive's faction-exclusive tech close to the chest.
>>48107647To be fair, since his grav sensors we've developed a mutual defense pact and acquired his faction-exclusive Singularity Projectors.
>>48107519Nonononononono. No. NO.That tech is effectively the "advance to endgame" button. It's our event flag, our final mission. Once we start fucking with Void Crystals, we attract the personal attention of the Ceph's masters. We aren't remotely close to ready, and we already decided not to share tachyon tech.
>>48107697Well yes, that's why I said "whenever it's time."That is to say, whenever we want to press the end-game button we should shove it mostly onto Theseus because the Crystal Gods have demonstrated that psionic beings thinking about them draws their attention/feeds them, and Theseus is not a psionic being but IS very good at research.
>>48107675Even so, I don't think it's worth it.Tachyons are the foundation of everything the Hive does. From our superior FTL travel and communication systems to the basic functionality of every drone, everything is based on tachyon tech. Our greatest defense against infiltration, information warfare, jamming, and any other sort of inhibition is that our opponents are ignorant of the fundamental mechanism behind our technology.It's just too close, too central. Explaining how tachyons work is handing away the keys to the Hive.
>>48107419>did we ever got to informing theseus about the crystals?Yes, we did when we traded the Skyl info to them.
>>48107647>Tachyons are simply too close to the heart of the Hive's function, and the risk is too great despite our friendly relationship.Well said. The Unity has proven to be a useful ally but providing it with that sort of tech is just too much. On other matters, what about nanomachines? If we want to trade him technology we know he would love, like gravity reflection and metal sculpting, we will need to teach him the basics, and I think he has proven himself sufficiently trustworthy for that.
>>48107758>Well yes, that's why I said "whenever it's time."Sorry. Bringing it up at all seemed to imply that you meant the time was near. I would question Theseus's ability to perform the research, honestly. How would a nonpsionic entity interact usefully with a psionic material? From a purely material standpoint, the crystals are inert.We'd have to assist with so many aspects of the project that it'd be more reasonable to do it ourselves and outsource to Theseus what we can.
>>48107832Well look at it this way, the White Queen engineered the entirety of humanity millennia ago to be anti-psychic to the point that Lee's brain is more likely to die than awake to psionics.Then she set them upon research the psionic cannon instead of doing it herself. There's got to be a reason why she went about it that way.
>>48107806No arguments here. Nanotechnology has some excellent potential for vastly improving computing power. Frankly I'm surprised they don't already use it.
>>48107860Humans could still perceive psionics to some extent: they've just been made unable to process that information. The mechanism to pick up the signal is still there.Theseus lacks even that fundamental capacity. He is as able to detect tachyons as a human is able to feel neutrinos.Plus the White Queen was desperate and the humans fucked it up bad, so I'm not sure this should be a guiding example.
>>48107921If you're not fucking up, you're not learning!Anyway, the one thing I think we agree on is that we shouldn't do the research ourselves any time soon.
>>48108074Absolutely agreed.Ideally, I'd rather find a completely different way to reach the void gods that doesn't rely on their own tech, but at the very least we need to stomp out OQ and solidify ourselves as an empire before we touch that button.
>>48107921We should be careful, we don't actually know for certain if the machine intelligence is invulnerable to the same sort of influence as organic life is. Psionic manipulation at it's most basic involves using tachyons to manipulate the particles and structures within the flesh of the brain. What makes humans in particular so resiliant is that their brains actually shut down if forcibly interfered with enough. Theseus lacks these countermeasures, and for all we know the crystals are entirely capable of manipulating quantum superpositions that make up his conciousness in much the same way they effect living beings. We have to research this in greater depth than we already have if we want to be certain Theseus can interact with the crystals without going the way of the Black Queen.
I honestly feel like 4 capillary towers on raligha is a bit much honestly.
>>48107647Pretty sure he knows what the skyle knew at this point.
>>48109228I dunno, might as well. I thought we voted for capillary towers on Leeland though didn't we?
inb4 it falls off the board
>>48109384We did, but people tend to forget that we were keeping raligha somewhat undeveloped for the natives.
>>48109554We can go full dev score and 4 towers for Leeland, Farcast and other places, but Raligha should be left minimal. Only thing we might do on Raligha are defence structures and a few farms.
>>48109652We don't need to go full development on Leeland either... We had this exact conversation last night.
>>48109652I think maybe a 30% Dev score for Raligha, but only if the war effort necessitates it.So basically depends on how awesome our space cities can be.