The night of Gemini is frigid, a harsh, biting cold as the frost in the street is illuminated by the glow of the planet's twin above. The streets are empty, the shops all closed, and a strange, almost inaudible hum of machinery emanates from the sewer grate in front of the machine shop as it sits in the dark, closed for the night. Inside, beside the massive bulk of the complex holo-printer, a bolt breaks through the cement floor, sending small bits of dust into the air. Several more follow suit, sending cracks shooting through the floor between them as a circle forms around the machine.Beneath the streets, at least a hundred taidarens toil in the darkness, clicking, whistling, and singing merely as several groups of triplets with multiple hands showing missing fingers scuttle their way to the front of the pack where a massive makeshift collection of scaffolding has been set up, with pulleys and winches strapped this way and that all leading to a number of gas powered motors idling on standby. They climb the scaffolding, clutching their bags, and one by one pull out a series of small looking cubes of putty, sticking each one in a slender line along the carved out underside of the shop above. The taidarens around them dive into the waters below and scurry away as the set of triplets empty their bags one by one, tossing them onto their backs, each covered in a patchwork of flame resistant cloth, and they begin attaching the wires to the metal bolts, the small, durable detonators drilled into the concrete.
>>47517403Is this Oceans 2700?
>>47517403Taidarens are the best
...Remind me what they're supposed to be doing, again?
>>47517528Stealing a 3D printer for us.
>>47517528Stealing shit so we can make fake IDs
>>47517403A shuttle carefully docks with your ship, the Orphan, holding a rather conspicuously looking reinforced metal block covered in dents in its cargo clamps. A number of its loading arms unfold and carefully pluck the box, which shakes periodically, from the firm grip of its clamps and slides it through space the short distance to the waiting cargo bay pod connected to the Orphan's hull spine. As the cargo doors seal and the shuttle departs, your clones return to their typical activities, only occasionally startled by the muffled roars of the predatory beast taken aboard from within its sealed container.Your clone drops off the small tribble back at the ship, and quickly makes his way through the myriad of corridors and twisting hallways filled with market stalls and shouting merchants peddling strange and exotic goods from all over known space, much of which, you note, seems painfully overpriced. Nearly a quarter of the way around the station's habitation ring and up a small elevator to half way through one of the ring's spokes is the office of the Valen official you have been waiting to speak with regarding your hive-produced merchandise. The doors open to a short hallway lined with chairs of various shapes and designs, and a desk next to a closed door where an incredibly uninterested woman sits typing something on a computer.cont.
>>47517554A moment later the door opens, and you hear a loud blast of air like someone hitting the keyboard of a pipe organ with a sledge hammer, and a trio of taidarens flee in random squiggling paths, scurrying across the room like panicked rodents. Your thinkers quickly interpret the shouting as you hear a blaring error report from what you assume is a translator program malfunctioning from the enraged slurring curses being said."Away you parasites! You sentient ticks looking to suck my wealth dry! You useless, gnawing..." the efforts of your thinkers begin to fail, although they manage to get the general idea of a kind of dog sized parasitic animal similar to the human head louse known to colonize the gill-covered waterlogged underside of the Valen body, causing a rather painful bleeding rash. The image is not flattering, to say the least.The door closes again as the taidarens pass your clone."You are rude!""Bad at business!""Pass on good deals, yes.""Yes! Was wise investment!""Double money, more, triple!""Cannot fail!"The group quickly enter the elevator as the door closes, and the woman behind the desk looks up at you."Next." She says. Your clone walks up to the desk and she slides a small piece of paper across the table with a pen. Your clone quickly fills it out, including the ship's given ID, account, and various generalizations regarding the quantity, size, and legal status of the fusion reactors in question, mostly through check boxes and binary questions. Your clone slides it back to the woman as she chews her bubble gum and glances at her personal data pad."He's in a bad mood, so you should keep it quick." She says. "Parently a mating deal went bad a week too late and he's stuck a seller in a buyer's market." She stifels a slight giggle, as if she finds some level of schadenfreude in the statement.>Ask for details>Head straight into the meeting>Other
>>47517735>>Head straight into the meeting
>>47517735>Head straight into the meeting
>>47517735>Head straight into the meetingNone'a my business, lady.
>>47517735>>Head straight into the meeting>dealing with space jews
>>47517735>Head straight into the meetingI'm interested but we're here for business
Man I've missed this quest and all it's characters. Y-You're not gonna die again, are you QuestDrone?
>>47517853The hive merely recycled him and Hatched a new drone, this one needed a longer gestation due to its modifications
>>47517735>Head straight into the meetingI suppose we can ask him personally, if he's interested in future business.
Oh shit you're back! Joy!
>>47517735Your clone gives the young woman a confused glance and she stifles a laugh."Hey, just warning you." She says, and buzzes open the door.Your clone walks in, finding the interior of the office more akin to a bath house than a place of business. It is a large blank tiled square chamber filled with water. The side of the room your clone stands on offers a decently sized ledge with several seats placed here and there looking out over the murky water. Several incredibly large levers are set along the sides of the ledge, each covered in deep scratch marks along the heavy metal handles and several holoscreens set up in the middle, one of average size, and one more akin to a cinema projector. There is a calm sounding digital voice that pipes in through speakers in the ceiling and the small holoscreen reads out a moving, twisting collection of Valen text reading out the various forms and paperwork of the Orphan's cargo sitting in the station."What is it you want?""I think the paperwork should-""Paperwork lies. I wish to hear it for myself." The mechanical voice offers no emotion itself, much like Coil's own translator, but you still can feel some amount of aggravation.cont.
>>47517403QD, I just want you to know that I have twenty-five tabs of porn open, and I'm putting them all on hold for this thread. You're more important to me than even the lewdest onee-chan.
>>47518082The water stirs, bubbles breaking the surface, and several large spikes erupt from below. They spray water as they blast out air with a massive conch shell echoing around the far too small chamber for such volume. The spike continue to rise, more adding to the growing forest, until a vast shell emerges. Vibrantly colored wax coated cloth strips are tied between the giant blow pipes, and the water crashes over the sides of the platform, pooling around several drains.As the shell settles in its place, two massive limbs, each like a cargo crane, unfolds from the sides and comes crashing down on the sides of the platform where you note there is a large set of rubber pads with a small indented button for each of the massive scythe-like fingers. Its head emerges last, lifting itself with some apparent effort. It is nearly the size of a small car alone, the countless spiralling rows of teeth the size of traffic cones and roughly the shape, with a thorn covered funnel of spikes pointing inwards going down to a massive gullet. Four tongues, each tucked into a bulbous gland, licks over the Valen's palette, picking at something that looks like a two meter long alligator skeleton before pulling it back down the pit of a throat, dislodging it from its gums with a wet sucking sound. The lipless maw is obviously incapable of closing, but the circular flower of teeth and muscular, pedal shaped jaws compress themselves so as to bare the least number of teeth it can.Four eyes on a set of stalks emerge from around the head, each one perched just behind the hinge of one of the jaws. They lengthen until the stalks are nearly a meter in length each, although wrinkling along the skin hints at them being capable of extending much further, and the curving, 'w'shaped slits narrow, focusing on your clone as its breathless maw wafts a pungent smell like fish from a dumpster in the height of summer.Cont.
>>47518231Dude, breath mints.
>>47518231Well, those Valen (or at least this valen) really needs to first impressions. A Kraken sounds less terrifying.
>>47518231I'm gonna assume we are memorizing as much of the rooms structure as we can so we can build it on the diplomacy dockyard.
>>47518335Something like this but more alive and with more teeth?
I LIKE Valen, they're described as incredibly empathetic too. I love your Aliens QD
>>47518231The Valen's shell bursts into a single-handed symphony as the hollow spines spray water and steamy breath into the air, each with its own unique note. A moment later the translator spins the text hovering before you, and the speaker reads it aloud."I am Counts and Remembers Secrets in Dark Waters. I am the engineering representative. I oversee quality assurance of all things entering and leaving this station." The computer voice is bland, but your thinkers in their over-calculating analysis find some hints of dissatisfaction in the statement. "This includes your 'reactors' you wish to unload here."The screen in front of you shows the results of a rudimentary surface scan of your reactors. They offer little in useful technical information, but indicate no pathogens were detected and no concealed explosives or unregistered chemical components were found, allowing them access to the station itself. A holographic image of the reactor itself, a large, boubous torrus shape of sculpted metal and twisting helixes of pulsing carbon lattice tubes filled with plasma spiralling out, up, and back down through a complex pattern like the home of a funnel web spider, projects into the air. Next to it is another reactor labeled as "closest match found", a bulky looking stellarator branded from a subsidiary of Olympus shipyards called an Neuman 1 series multi-injected plasma funnel reactor, although it is much smaller in size and seems marketed as an engine for single seat sublight racing craft."What are the specifications of this design?" The Valen asks. His eyes focus on your clone.>It's a custom design built by an engineer living in the Expanse>It's a native design engineered from alien ruins in the Expanse>It's a native design by locals in the Expanse>Other
>>47518550>It's a custom design built by an engineer living in the ExpanseNo need to spill the beans on our covert op yet. We can always create an "engineer" if we need to. An eccentric genius who sells lots of valuable "custom" items.
>>47518550>It's a native design by locals in the ExpanseWere entering the galactic stage soon after all
>>47518550>>It's a custom design built by an engineer living in the ExpanseKeep it low for now.
>>47518550>>It's a custom design built by an engineer living in the Expanse
>>47518550>>It's a native design by locals in the ExpanseToss that bait in there. This guy should be able to smell money.
>>47518550>>It's a native design by locals in the Expanse
>>47518550>>It's a native design by locals in the ExpanseAs long as we get him to agree to keep this on the down low for the time being, this is fine. We're going to be making ourselves known very soon anyway.
>>47518550I just realized. Of the three of these, the alien ruins answer is the least true. We (or at least our thinkers) could be considered engineers. The Hive generally is also more "native" to the expanse than either the Valen or the humans. Just something funny to think about.
>>47518550>It's a custom design built by an engineer living in the Expanse
>>47518550>>>It's a native design by locals in the Expanse
>>47518657>The Hive generally is also more "native" to the expanse than either the Valen or the humans.Not really, we arrived on our homeplanet later than the humans did.We just colonise better.Our native roots lay beyond what the others define as "the Expanse".
>>47518550 >It's a native design by locals in the Expanse
>It's a native design by locals in the ExpanseThis should intrigue the engineers and those processing information harvested from cargo scans. That alone should buy our way in.
>>47518684The humans dont have to know whrn we got there. Besdies, gardener was there thousands of years ago so we're technically native, just lapsed.
I've been waiting for this!
>>47518703Shit, Mom was on Earth's moon before humans crawled out of caves.
>>47518656We need that valen contact soon too, but I am not sure if this one is the best...he/she/it just oversees cargo going in and out of station. Although this valen could have usefull contacts.Either the engineer or native excuse, both are fine
So are we sending a hive ship with a speaker to visit the valen trading post or are we setting up our own trading post in one of our systems after this?
>>47518722I guess we are letting confederate smugglers onto our trading post first and let the valen follow them to us then?
>>47518714Reminder that the crystals nearly made humans extinct 70,000 years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory#Genetic_bottleneck_theory
>>47518722i want to send a trading dockyard in the valen colony next to us and broadcast commercials.
>>47518714Mom probably messed with the humans in the first place, it wasn't chance that the humans have anti psi genes in them after all
>>47518722I was planning negotiating with them for control of Tannhauser once we came onto the galactic scene. We need to search for more skyl artifacts, and it's right smack dab in the middle of our territory. Make for a good trading center, what with it's hypergates in place.
So we need a speaker to act as a rogue trader then
>>47518755Don't tell the humans that, though. They'll become almost as paranoid as we are.
>>47518747Holy shit the dates match
>>47518774I don't know, Elizabeth figured out that mom played with early human genetic development already
>>47518747>White queen finds proto-humans.>Alters them so that they cant translate psy signals>Crystals find out and try to kill humanity, mother saves them.Just imagine the commonwealth reaction if they find out when they take earth.
So while we wait, I've been looking into star wars for research inspiration. A couple of things stood out (besides lightsabers and force-related stuff).First was the small ships, and the insane variety there was. Our gunships are supposed to be bomber equivalents, but sw seems better equipped for that. Then there's the fighters that have four weapons emplacement instead to two, and some of them can rotate to shoot at pursuers. Speaking of weapons, the B-wing's combi-laser which can take out a sub-capital was really rad. Then other utility stuff like solar panels on TIEs and Vulture and Hyena droids being able to walk and patrol docking bays and air bases (the later of which has two heads, even). Is it possible to later implant anything like that on our smallships and make them more versatile like our larger ships?
>>47518799I don't think she has considered that, she only knows our mother was on the moon and that humans can't translate psy signals.We might have to hint at the connection though, maybe we should send another expedition to earth and establish contact with that robot.
>>47518791IS THIS QUEST DRONES PLAN?TO MAKE THE CRAZY ALIEN MAN RIGHT?
>>47518830Starwars operate on an airforce combat style, so the fighter jets get all the attention This quest operates on a more navel combat style, so more focus on the fleet maneuvers themselves than any specific ships
>>47518849Crazy Aliens Man died hundreds of years ago anon.
>>47518880Doesnt mean he was wrong.
>>47518880Then who was that on the show we watched when spying?>There's a secret cult built around him
>>47518866Yeah, that makes sense. Neat stuff though.Of course, some of it are actually kind of useless or stupid as well. Like the Laserweb Defense System, which if a bunch of asteroids connected by electrical energy to form a net and destroy fighters trying to fly through. It works in sw because there asteroids are all bunched up together for some reason, but it doesn't work on a real asteroid belt since they're much farther apart as to not constantly collide and fly everywhere.
>>47517403LIES!? ITS BACK!? QD WHERE WERE YOU!?!?! Welcome back!
>>47518998QM hell, probably. They say that once a year, a tortured soul is petmitted to leave to finish their earthly deeds.
>>47519105I hope they let out SpiderQM soon.
>>47518550"It was designed by locals found in the expanse." Your clone says. "It recycles plasma through multiple fuel cycles by using natural imperfections in the magnetic containment field to siphon off plasma into sub-reactors built through the power helix, and sending it back into the main reactor. The process makes it more stable than a stellarator and more efficient than a tokamak." Your clone points out various devices along the seemingly random ripples of the reactor's melted looking metal surface with a smug smile. "I can't speak for any Valen designs though."The Valen keeps his gaze locked onto your clone, squinting. Your thinkers examine his facial expressions, Elizabeth halting in the hive tunnels as if queasy as she guides your thinkers through a mental crash course in xeno-psychology and Valen emotional science, which you are surprised is a thing complex enough to deserve its own class. The Valen shows mistrust, confusion, and a twitch of panic races across the eyes, the boub-like eyeballs filling with a smoky color that runs along the normally dark blue sclera, and then confusion again."What is your name?" The valen asks. Your clone scratches his head briefly."John Spreckels." The clone says. The valen continues to stare at you in confusion."You say locals made these?" He asks, your clone nods. "From where exactly did they originate?">G-426 (Leeland)>A planet called Leeland>Refuse to say>Refuse to say until after he signs a branding contract>Other>>47518791That was actually the best thing that channel made in years. For sure one of their best mini series. I was actually impressed, although that may at least partially be because I was expecting absolute garbage and cheap romanian actors going off script of the book.>>47518982True, although delta-V is high enough so that ships do need to worry about them. That patch of nothing with the rare rock every thousand kilometers gets a lot denser when you plow through it at a quarter c.
>>47519131I wish vedibere would be released but i don't think they do third chances.In either case, this year it was QD and now we have to wait another.
>>47519131He got out of hell too, now he just needs to start writing
>>47519135>A planet called Leeland>Refuse to say until after he signs a branding contractLet's throw him a bit of a bone. It's not like anyone else but us even knows Leeland exists in it's current state.
>>47519135>>Refuse to say until after he signs a branding contract
>>47519165I'm worried some of the higher ups might make the connection, though.'Leeland? What the hell kinda name is Lee- oh...hm...'
>>47519135>Refuse to say until after he signs a branding contract>A planet called LeelandThere is absolutely no reason to tell him what or where Leeland is of course. And no proper reason for him to ask other than to try to cut out middle men.
>>47519135>Refuse to say until after he signs a branding contractIs that Binding? and no reference to our capital world
>>47519135>>A planet called Leeland>Refuse to say until after he signs a branding contract
>>47519178But those are Valen. And what are the odds that Killinger has spooks trawling Valen info-nets and finding that very specific bit of information?
>>47519135>>A planet called LeelandCheeky answer.Why is this space whale worried? They want to trade, right?
So if we have to give him coordinates of one of moms worlds
If he is confused and panicked, now is the time to press for an agreement. He still might just walk away from the deal if he gets too emotional.
>>47519136What did he run?
>>47519197Because the design will revolutionize their energy production industry, and he is trying to figure out 1: Why we came to him2: Is this a trick of some kind3: Can he easily screw us over
>>47519135>Refuse to say until after he signs a branding contract.>A planet called Leeland.QD, can we write a contract that specifies if it breaks contract and allows information about us to spread to the union without our consent we invade a valen gate with our military and reverse engineer it?Scare him into not thinking about ratting us out
>>47519135>Refuse to say"Although locals call it Leeland"
>>47519232http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Lessons%20in%20Knighthood%20QuestMy favorite quest. It's too bad he died in the war.I would have taken over his quest if I thought I could do half as well as him
>>47519135>Refuse to say until after he signs a branding contract
>>47519256Our guy is acting as a unaffiliated trader and not in official capacity for the hive He cant set invasion contracts and stuff
>>47519269Wait what?! I can't believe it.
>>47519279Yeah, I dont see why the presumably middleman has to do the branding, but whatever.
The moment he leaves this room, our boy john is going to be jumped by corporate spooks wanting to get their hands on one of these generators>>47519296So he can establish himself as a trust worthy seller
>>47519296He's in charge of quality control for technical products. If it passes quality control, the station's policy is to accept any and all branding contracts in order to maximize their inventory's variety.
>>47519296>>47519279We could say it was a request from the locals.
>>47519325No, that raises too many questions
>>47519320Too bad our boy john knows kata, and has clones (which can mutate into monsters) to back him up.
>>47519350We may want john to get interrogated to give out a location as bait remember?
>>47519368That is also an option.
>>47519372Such as why do these aliens know valen trading protocols? Why would they trust a human to do this?
>>47519294It was mostly a joke. I just heard he was drafted for his time in some South Asian country, but he should have been released by now.>>47519232It was a very laid back adventure mystery bit. Traditional setting but a great cast of characters and a fun way of telling the story.
>>47519368Honestly with all the shadowrunning we've been doing it's rather hard to keep track which plan does what
>>47519392fuck it's been two years already?
>>47519397Just on the safe side we should get john to lead some smugglers to us while we also send a hive ship to a different valen trading post to make first contact with another clan
>>47519397What were we even planning on doing with the commonwealth? They seemed straightforward, especially compared to their rivals. Our usual method of doing things might not be necessary.
>>47519392If only there was a way to contact him and know for sure. Internet anonymity is a bit double-edged at times.
>>47519419HQQ is already 2 years old too.>>47519430We're on our way to dealing with First Contact with the Commonwealth
>>47519419I don't think so. His last tweet was from February of last year.
>>47519430we need the commonwealth alive as a buffer state against the scavs and not allow the union to control all human space They just cannonfodder for us >>47519450We already did first contact with them
>>47519454What country is he from then?
>>47519389>why do these aliens know valen trading protocols?I'm actually stumped on that question.They are obviously space fairing with the threat.>Why would they trust a human to do this?"Obvious security reasons."
>>47519463>We already did first contact with themWhat i meant was we're working out what to do from there.
>>47519135A planet called Leeland, but I'm gonna need a drawn up contract for this stuff before I can start giving away contact information." Your clone says under your careful direction. The eye stalks of the valen constrict in a reaction similar in nature to a human's palms becoming sweaty and the stalks retract several inches."What proof do you have of this claim?" He says.>Have your clone become indignant at his mistrusting behavior>Offer more detailed technical data on the reactor design>Offer other proof of the reactor's capabilities and safety (write in)>Other
>>47519501>Have your clone become indignant at his mistrusting behaviorNegotiate hard
>>47519501Does our clone have a parasite?If so just stab ourselves and show him the healing.
>>47519501>Have your clone become indignant at his mistrusting behavior
>>47519501>Have your clone become indignant at his mistrusting behaviorWe just want him to spread the rumor up to his bosses about this
>>47519501>Have your clone become indignant at his mistrusting behaviorWell excuse me gasbag.
>>47519521dude, what. why?We aren't selling biomods. (yet)
>>47519501>Have your clone become indignant at his mistrusting behaviorWe can go to someone else.>>47519473Either South Korea or Taiwan. It's hard to remember, sorry.
>>47519501We completed our objectives the moment word gets out about our generators and the fact of new alien race operating in the expanse Only question is how much danger are we willing to put john in now?
>>47519534Yea but it's the most efficient way we have of convincing him, and he wouldn't know how we healed.
>>47519501>Have your clone become indignant at his mistrusting behaviorPlease roll 1d100, best of three to have your clone strategically loose his cool.
>>47519501>>Have your clone become indignant at his mistrusting behavior
>>47519534We should sell couches I bet we could make a great couch better than those scavs and thier non existent couches at any rate
>>47519553>We completed our objectives the moment word gets out about our generators and the fact of new alien race operating in the expanse.Aw, i wanted the used car salesman commercials.
>>47519560We don't give a shit about convincing this guy, we just want him to tell others about this incident
Rolled 98 (1d100)>>47519570For Mother
Rolled 71 (1d100)>>47519570pls
Rolled 46 (1d100)>>47519570For Mother!God it feels good to say that again.
Rolled 34 (1d100)>>47519570For Mother!
>>47519578AFTER ALL THIS TIME. IT STILL WORKS
>>47519575We can do that when they inevitably come to see us
Rolled 17 (1d100)>>47519570FOR MOTHER
>>47519576I didn't know that was the plan.>>47519578But apparently that doesn't matter, we succeed anyway.
>>47519578First roll since hiatus. For mother indeed anon, for mother indeed.
>>47519578Wow.>>47519573Valen-size couch would be an undertaking.Hell we could also add stuff like shell-cleaning and shit to it.
>>47519595Never yell, inside voice remember?
>>47519578On the first fucking roll. Man, I'd forgotten how much I've missed this.
>>47519578A 98 to bring us back.
>>47519501>Have your clone become indignant at his mistrusting behaviorOh I'm sure I can sell these elsewhere too.>>47519560How to get kidnapped part 1.
>>47519603Also think about it if spider silk is considered luxurious then what must hive silk new like
>>47519628Do we even have Hive Silk?
>>47519638I thought that's just worker spit
>>47519647No that's just hive cement.
>>47519615>How to get kidnapped part 1.That's good, we have bases to bust, secret research to steal, plans to thwart.
>>47519653So worker shit then?
>>47519638We could design some, but it's kind of pointless.
>>47519604Fuck I forgot, it's been so long
I don't see why not we have complete control of our biology we could give our selves leather skin if we wanted
>>47519657Silk is produced by insects when they transition from larva to fully formed adult, and arachnids produce silk for use as a durable construction material.
>>47519676Our ships have leather interior already
>>47519657>designated shitting construction siteCmon anon, it's worker secretion, but not THAT kind of secretion.
>>47519686So my point is made heck we could make perfumes and other luxury goods if we wanted to people already think our food stuff is a good garnish we could make a lot of money on more than tech
>>47519732We should just stick to drugs man We can make any type of drugs for nothing and they would have so many wonderful effects
>>47519578Mother's still got it.
>>47519755YEEESS!!! Nothing makes a population more dependent on you than drugs
>>47519755Yeah, we should buy samples of as many drugs as possible while we're here too. Learn how to make every intoxicant and psychoactive substance known to man and valen alike.
>>47519755>Dude space weed lmao.
>>47519732But why do we need to make money though? I'm fine with this generator business since it's just one thing that will be kept close to the chest, even if it's a big deal, but we don't need to make then perfume just to make money.Let's try not to budge into the human space economy just because they're human.
>>47519755Sell them the Hallucinogenic spores.
>>47519785Aww but then we can't use our economic sway to mess with human politics the valen do it
>>47519772>>47519780>>47519782>>47519796>>47519785Serious i still don't understand why we just didn't go with drugs in the first placeDo you guys know how hard to reverse engineer drugs just from the end products themselves? near impossibleBut the moment we sell this generator or any other product some geek going to take them apart and has at least some chance of learning somethingHard to do that with a pill you know
>>47519570Your clone waves away the hologram and jabs a finger at the massive valen. Its eye stalks retract behind its maw, peeking meekly around the layers of massive teeth."You listen here you bagpipe-talking salt-sucking urchin-smelling fish-sucking snail-assed dumpster-mouthed two-timing sack of floating chump-change counting dollar-store running garbage, I could of gone to any station in all of valen space, and I came here, right to you. You don't have the common goddamn decency to plug one of 'em into a goddamn outlet and see how it works your own damn self I can just pack them the fuck back in my ship and sell 'em to someone else."The Valen's complexion puffs around the tongue glands, whitening the reddish flesh of the gums, and a strange sound can be heard from its shell, like a deflating balloon as air leaks from its massive diaphragm.>Comment on his failed mating contract>Demand he give an offer for the reactors>Demand a price for the reactors (write in)>Other
>>47519819Knowing how the reactors work won't make it any easier for them to make the fidlyer bits of the reactor.Even if they do figure out how to make them, this will hapen a year or two down the line and most likely cost far more than ours since theirs don't grow on trees.
>>47519785We need an in to the regular Union economy in order to open new ways to shadowrun things.
>>47519841>you bagpipe-talking salt-sucking urchin-smelling fish-sucking snail-assed dumpster-mouthed two-timing sack of floating chump-change counting dollar-store running garbageThis made me both laugh and cringe at the same time t b h
>>47519819Not really difficult to reverse engineer a pill bit the main problem is public image people tend not to like drug dealers for some reason
>>47519841>Comment on his failed mating contract>Demand a price for the reactors ( fuck a million space credits each? is that legitimate? its brand new alien tech
>>47517403so is this just a bugmom thread in disguise?
>>47519841>Demand he give an offer for the reactors
>>47519819Firstly, we're some of the greatest biochemical engineers the galaxy has ever seen. We can easily learn to synthesize any compound we can get a sample of. Secondly, our generators were the result of reverse engineering human tech in the first place, and doesn't contain any truly original design features for anyone to copy. The only real advantage it has over human made generators is that it's dirt cheep to produce compared to theirs.
>>47519841>Comment on his failed mating contract.>Demand a price for the reactors (write in).Can our thinkers calculate the best price for him to accept?
>>47519841>Comment on his failed mating contractIs he going to let a failed contract turn a possible fruitful business partnership off?
>>47519862Nah most companies just steal the the way to make it from the patent office and by bribery of the docs involved with the studies And you know what? we aren't going to sell themselves to the end users in the first place so who cares
>>47519841>>Demand a price for the reactorsMake it a level of order above the current market price for the best generators. These things will sell no matter what the price is, just add a zero to the end of the price tag of a stellarator or a tokamak or whatever.We might want to charge even more. Like I said, these things will sell no matter the price.
>>47519905mark up that price by a 1000%
>>47519819I agree, but the vote is already done. And we don't need to start another business now we have this.>>47519869No. Not really, no.
>>47519841>Demand he give an offer for the reactorsLet's not push too hard here. Although, hell, who knows, they might think this is totally OK in their society.
>>47519876now your idea of wanting to sell awesome space bug drugs is not wrong, but rather it shouldn't be something we start with for trading. Maybe once we have established a foothold and more importantly gained a more secure network of intelligence amongst the potential buyers so we can observe trends and what drugs go for best THEN we should go for it. I mean we could just test em on human clones but eh we already make the fucking wonder cure with parasites, its just hard to sell " wonder cure bug" when it sticks to your spine and compels you to listen to a space bug. >>47519841I laughed so hard I woke people up and got yelled at for it.
>>47519912WAY too much man.
>>47519906I wouldn't make them to expensive people tend to judge based on look not function
>>47519921This is alright in their society
>>47519841>>Demand a price for the reactors (write in)Get Theseus to look up what these things go for.
>>47519933The people who judge based on look and not function won't be buying these.
>>47519933>>47519943There ship generatorsWe are dealing with tech nerds
>>47519841You owe me a new set of spiracles. >Demand a price for the reactors. A modern nuclear reactor weighs in between 2-9 billion dollars, we should price ours higher than any reactor systems we expect to surpass in efficiency. In conclusion we should demand whatever the space equivalent of 10-15 billion dollars is.
>>47519933What about the ones that love exotic stuff.
>>47519841>Demand a price for the reactors High price, but not over the top... we want sell these to other places too, than labs for testing purposeNo reason to comment the failed mating, as we don't know much about it.
>>47519924Oh, you misunderstand me. I don't want to copy every drug ever produced in human labs to SELL them, I want them so we can use them to fuck with people implanted with parasites in ever increasingly complex and bizarre ways. Say we want to incriminate somebody? Send a fly to inject them with a banned substance just before they have to take a blood test. Could you imagine shooting up Killinger with LSD just before he addresses parliament or makes a speech at a public rally? Shit would be priceless.
>>47519959No, worse/better, overworked ship engineers.
>>47519951I think he's referring to that RE-(SPECIES) wave that was popular for a while. From what I saw it's a self-insert thing.
I feel really bad for the Valen now.... First his date gets turned down and he gets yelled at by a mean human... Man, that's depressing
>>47519988I had a feeling it was a fetish thing like those
>>47520013He's works in engineering, he use to it now
>>47519988Nno, those don't fit "bugmom" description. Monstermoms in there were pretty hardcore. Also it really wasn't selfinserts.
>>47520025Google search reveals mlp fanfiction... ok
>>47519841>demand an offer for the reactors>offer some dating advice, we know that shit sucks, we're hoping you'll get someone better - but sheesh don't you know better to mix personal life and business? You almost lost a deal of a lifetime by being broody!
>>47520065I don't even know anymore.
>>47520018hahaha, oh wow
>>47520018No matter what the species, even in the far future, the Engineer's curse still exists.
>>47520089What? haven't you ever hear an engineer bitch about their lives? That profession seems to be cursed for some reason
>>47519975Why settle for LSD when we can use some of that horrible brain fungus from the oceans of the home world!Who was it we had the parasite in? I know it was a government official but his name eludes me.
>>47520128Killinger's Head Spook. He's pretty far right now, what with being in the Expanse on a wild goose chase and all.
>>47520128The head of the intelligence division, spook what's his name. Also the scientist guy, easy to trick what's his name. They're the only government types we have at the moment.
>>47520139>>47520156you mean Micheal? he's just a toadie still
>>47520139Oh it's not wild were just waiting for Lyle to get bored enough to go and deal with them in mean we could deal with it but we kinda promised him a fight with the power armor guy
>>47520083There's no difference between the two it's one of the pillars of their society
>>47520170Still waiting for that fight. I imagine that lyle is fucking terrifying to normal non augmented human combatants now.
>>47520167What? But he was in the top secret meetings between Kellingers division chairs wasn't he?
>>47520189Yeah as the help, Don't confuse a thug for the mob boss
NUKE THE WHALESGAS THE SQUIDSSTAB THE MONKEYSTRUST NOTHINGTHE VOID IS WATCHING
>>47519841"Look, I don't care if you're grumpy over your date walking out on your sorry ass, but these things need to get sold." Your clone says. The red streaks along the sides of its petal shaped jaws flush white. "Now with specs like this in a reactor this size, I'm gonna need them on sale at around seven hundred thousand each.""Yes. Yes." The valen says meekly to your surprise."And- wait, really?" Elizabeth begins to laugh uncontrollably."Yes. I will have it tested for power specifications and recommend the product be carried by our inventory." The valen begins to regain its composure, its eye stalks extending back out timidly. And do not bring Singing Marble Floats in Contemplation into this. A mating season wasted. Because Tender Songs in Cresting Waves offered at the last moment, after I had undergone the Change! All because the contract had yet to be put into writing and 'he' owns a merchant fleet! 'girlfriend', you know nothing of our mating rituals, human!"The valen's shell whispers with faint noises like a breeze flowing through an overpass, muttering of one-uppance."Next season the both of them will fight for a contract with me!" His eye stalks quickly shift back to you. The uncertainty and fear are still there, but there is something new. A twinge of hope."I will sign a branding contract for your reactors, with a forty percent commission.">Agree>Counter offer>"You're fucking crazy!">Other
>>47520240>"You're fucking crazy!"you take 15% or i walk
>>47518830Guess I'll keep going while we wait.Geonoshan sonic weapons. Granted it's different from standard sci-fi sonic weaponry, but it made me think about the subject more. Since it would need a medium to go through like a gas or a liquid, it couldn't be used as a space weapon. But then I started wondering how this pseudo-science fictional technology could be used as a space weapon, and what kind of quantum medium it would need to use to work, since empty space isn't really empty in the field of quantum science.
>>47520240>Counter offer25 max 30Oh right Valen change gender alternating with the breeding season
>>4752024010%, our reactors are awesome and you know it
>>47520229SPACE WAR NOW>>47520240>"You're fucking crazy!"I don't know why but I feel like we're getting scammed. We should scam them harder.
>>47520229It's not time yet brother. There are still those who want to play at being friends. They will learn, the time will come soon.
>>47520240>Counter offer5% Bargain hard and walk away over 20%
>>47520240Haggle to 25-30%
>>47520240Please roll 1d100, best of 3 for a mixture of luck and a haggling battle of wills.
Rolled 48 (1d100)>>47520292for mother!
Rolled 54 (1d100)>>47520292For Mother!Take 10% you twit
Rolled 89 (1d100)>>47520292For Mother
>>47520240>Counter offer25%, and make it clear that he won't be getting any more. No need to shout, we aren't hawking used freighters here.
Rolled 27 (1d100)>>47520292
>>47520240Oh god, the Space-Jew-Squids determine mates through their yearly income.
>>47520300Are you me anon?
>>47520300The inside voice proves itself yet again!
>>47520313Next year all the squids will love the queen
>>47520240>"Next season the both of them will fight for a contract with me!" His eye stalks quickly shift back to you. The uncertainty and fear are still there, but there is something new. A twinge of hope.I love this dude, dudette, whale-jew. He's getting adopted.
>>47520300>Profitable enterprise intensifies.
>>47520240>"And- wait, really?" Elizabeth begins to laugh uncontrollably.Wait did we just get low ball ourselves?
>>47520313>Space-Jew-SquidsThey're more like crabs than squids.Whalecrabs.
>>47520313>>47520360NUKE THE WHALES
>>47520356No, she was laughing about how easily he folded.
>>47520356This things would sell no matter the price. It needed more zeros.
>>47520385It costs us literally nothing to make.Hell, a hundred thousand of those reactors won't even make us blink at the material costs.
>>47520282Support for thisValen is most likely more interested of our "native" contact than these generators...but I want that deal already
>>47520376>>47520385It's fine, the technology can doubtlessly be refined greatly and if the profits don't look good on the first batch we can significantly jack up the price for future improvements.
>>47520356No I think it was how easily we got them to agree instead of endless negotiations
>>47520292"Bullshit! You're crazy if you think I'm that stupid." Your clone says, throwing himself into the role you have proscribed. "You get five percent." There is a loud pop, like a bursting balloon, followed by a painfully loud squeaking sound as if someone were scrapping metal chair along the floor. He apparently finds the statement quite humorous."Thirty percent.""Ten." The squeak of a laugh stops and the valen's eyes focus on your clone again."Twenty." It says, mustering what little authority it has in its voice."No. You get ten, or I'll find someone else who will. Maybe that cresting waves guy, he sounds like a good businessman.""Himmel, arsch und Zwirn, you just go right bellow the belt every time!" Elizabeth says as she continues to chuckle in her lab while helping your thinkers study the valen's facial expressions. "You two will get along wonderfully, I'm sure!" The valen's eye stalks shake as they tense up."Very well. Ten percent." There is a roar from the valen's shell as spray erupts from its back, and its arm lifts up, then slams onto the ground on the large rubber control pad. The massive bladed fingers typing out something with surprising speed. A contract appears in the air in front of your clone. "All I need now is the intended brand name of the reactor model.">Write in
>>47520480WOWThat was awesomeWe so got to tell lyle and theuses about this
>>47520480Let's call it the Bumblebee. It's quick, it's clean, it's efficient.
>>47520480Brand: MatriarkModel: Mirage Burner
>>47520480>Maybe that cresting waves guy, he sounds like a good businessman.Queen and crew still have that mouth on them I see
>>47520480Brand: AfterswarmModel: Bee blower
>>47520480Hivetech, Redqueen-inc, John spreckels insect sugar.>>47520509Matriarch exotics.
>>47520480If we start selling technology could we include mandatory software packages that are just our AI friend in disguise?
>>47520529Shit i forget that sprecks was the sugar guyWe need something to match sugar products
>>47520480What about just HIVE?
>>47520531That would be awesome if we could actually pull it off
>>47520535Drugs, augments and food.
>>47520535If we could produce silk we could get into both textiles and the medical injury as certain silks high in vitamin-K encourage clotting and have also been shown to have some possible use in the repair of damaged nerves.
>>47520529Matriarch exotics sounds good gives just enough of a clue with out blowing the whole thing
>>47520539We just need to include an EULA which prohibits scanning or modifying our unique IP software. They'll sign it without realistic it exempts our stuff from the usual scans for evil AIs. No one reads the EULA
I really want to start a company named FormOther!
>>47520577Heh I like this
>>47520480Brand: BrixModel : Beta 52916
>>47520504Seconding this name. Nothing too fancy or will overtly call attention to it like calling it HIVE will (once we reveal ourselves).
>>47520577Fucking amazing pic.
>>47520577That's good to
How about Redbugs! we'll give you parasites!
>>47520553Dude we can probably just make stimpacks like from fallout
>>47520480I google translated that German and it was only three random words....
>>47520480>>47520529OH brand name of the reactor, well then let's call it the nest or the bumblebee.
>>47520620The reactor should def be the bumblebee. the company should be FormOther though.
>>47520480Brand name>Matriarch exotics>Afterswarm>HiveTech>FormOther>Other (write in)Model>Bumblebee>Mirage Burner>Bee blower>Other (write in)>>47520617It's not proper, slang for roughly "christ almighty" from my understanding.
>>47520632Yeah, okay I'm sold, this sounds good.
>>47520639Brandname FormOtherModel Bumblebee
>>47520639>Matriarch exotics> Bumblebee
>>47520639>Branndname Matriarch exotics.but if i am outvoted then FormOther.Bumblebee.
>>47520639Its been decided by KO
>>47520639And, like the bumblebee, they don't know how it works. Just that it does work.
>>47520639Can we have multiple brand names?
>>47520738For a single product?
>>47520738Let's just start with one and see if the venture succeeds first.
>>47520639Did you see >>47520531?
>>47520756Isn't that how it works in real life? You just put it in a slightly different box?We can be brand-name and Generic!
FormOther is fun, but I prefer a more regal naming system.
>>47520738Maybe for different products, or maybe we could change it once we actually reveal ourselves.
>>47520756>>47520759I'm thinking of multiple brand names for certain stuff we sell.>Matriarch exotics.Food, animals and drugs>HiveTech.Augments and research trade.>FormOther.No ideas>Afterswarm.No ideas.
>>47520786>>47520791>>47520800You're assuming this "make human money" thing is a long term plan.
>>47520639>Matriarch exotics>Bumblebee>always late for voting
>>47520800I got ideas.>FormOther.Security and assassination.>>47520805It's not a long term plan?
>>47520800FormOther will be industrial material and space ship partsWhile Afterswarm can be medical supplies and treatment
>>47520820What would we spend the money on?
>>47520805Yes, yes it is.
>>47520831Paying people to undergo 100% safe experimental medical procedures for peer-review studies.
>>47520831Canderon, and other raw materials for when we want to place a REALLY big order of ships and construction plans.
>>47520823I think medical is for Matriarch exotics since it is already in the food and drug business, just need to start selling drugs that benefit.>>47520831Bribes, material, economy manipulation, political investments, assassinations.
>>47520850Canderon-based FTL drives are vastly inferior to our own basic FTL, and hilariously inferior compared to our newest Hybrid-FTL principles.
>>47520831Bribery, assassinations, also money helps when you need to build spy networks.
>>47520860Drop a massive drive on city. no more city..
>>47520831Covert ops. Political influence (politicians need money too. Canderon for the singularity guns. (like >>47520850said) There are plenty of medium term uses for money in the human systems.
>>47520860Canderon has other uses, and can also be donated to others for favors.>Hybrid-FTL.What?
>>47520872We have a couple dozen methods to take or destroy a city, anyone with any method of FTL that works in-system does.
>>47520835No. No it isn't.>>47520841If that's what you're after we could just infest the population the normal way. Cults, selling fake medicine eggs, by force, through the sewers, which were already doing.>>47520850>>47520858All of these things we can do on our own. Usually better.The reason trade exists is because sometimes someone else has something you don't have and you want it, it they are better at making something than you.We can do anything we want without their help, and we can make anything they can make and take any resource they have, or find another source of it.
>>47520860We still need Canderon for the Theseus designed black-hole gun spinal mount.
>>47520880Our FTL + FTL methods we research / trade for / Scavenge from our conquests = Hybrid FTL methods.
>>47520860Yeah but with or new drives coming out that surf gravity waves we can use Canderon to ensure we always have a strong wavesense even if we arn'the close to a grav source
>>47520639>FormOther>BumblebeeYour clone quickly fills out the various contractual documents. Hopefully your five Bumblebee reactors will sell relatively quickly. A quick search of the local markets by one of your clones within the Orphan indicates seven hundred thousand credits is somewhat on the high side for a reactor of its size, although its power output is moderately greater than all but the most expensive high performance compact reactors. The increased power output also makes the Bumblebee much more fuel intensive, although in the long run it is still quite efficient, beating out the dedicated high performance compact models in fuel efficiency while only trailing slightly in performance. With any luck, they should be sold by the time you are able to bring another ship load to the station.On the Orphan, the ships computer comes alive with a number of messages, mostly lengthy legal letters for record keeping purposes and disclaimers for everything from sunspots to alien invasion to the sudden appearance of a black hole and anything else you could possibly think of that would result in a loss of your inventory that is deemed to be not the station owners' fault. The disclaimer alone is nearly the size of a modest novel.cont.
>>47520831Resources we can't get or produce ourselves, proprietary technologies, perhaps large swaths of land on new planets.
>>47520893Oh i thought you meant an actual hybrid-FTL which we can't make.
>>47520888Having some money is good for flexibility, but becoming some sort of market cornerstone is pointless.What happened to making money by getting population s addicted to drugs? That's an idea that helps.
>>47520889Those can be put anywhere on a hive ship though, not just the spinal mount. Number of guns determines accuracy, and size of gun determines singularity size.
>>47520905At the end of the pile of messages is an account notification."Congratulations, this is to inform you that your corporate account for [FORMOTHER] has been created and is currently linked to the personal account of [JOHN DIEDRICH SPRECKELS], for more information, or to change the associated personal account, or to management rights to another personal account, please contact our customer support [HERE]. Your negotiated commission rate for [BUMBLEBEE FUSION REACTOR] is a 10% fee on all sales. We congratulate you on your new company, and look forward to many business transactions with you in the future.">Have the Orphan establish a trade route between Leeland and the Lanway system to trade Bumblebee reactors>Bring more reactors, and other hive merchandise (write in)>OtherThis post would look really pretty on /qst/, the text formatting is like the one good thing about it.
Money going to be used for black ops in human & valen space isn't?
>>47520931>Have the Orphan establish a trade route between Leeland and the Lanway system to trade Bumblebee reactors
>>47520911Define "Hybrid FTL"Can we put every single functioning aspect of several different FTL technologies based on completely separate principles? Fuck no.Can we have a few different FTL-drives on the same ship? Depends if we can figure out a way to smoosh them all in comfortably and keep them from interacting with each other without compromising the design principles of the ship in question.
>>47520931>Bring more reactors, and other hive merchandise Start pushing some drugs and medical goods with the next load
>>47520888Loads of money is just a damn fine way to ensure you get what you want out of human society willingly. Like, funding the campaign for Killinger's opponent in an election, for example.
>>47520936Also advertising.Remember, the best cover is a completely legitimate one.
>>47520931>>Have the Orphan establish a trade route between Leeland and the Lanway system to trade Bumblebee reactors>Bring more reactors, and other hive merchandiseDrugs & medical things.
>>47520907>techGetting interesting tech is fine, but you don't need to corner the galatic market on soap to get it. We purchased tech already for some throwaway cash.>perhaps large swaths of land on new planetsWhen did we start asking permission to take land?And if there are any strategic resources we need, that's what wars and tactics are for.
>>47520931>Bring more reactors, and other hive merchandise ( food for the food God silk for the silk throne)
>>47520931>>Bring more reactors, and other hive merchandise (off-brand holo-projectors, nutrient paste as a sandwich spread and "reconfigured" energy shielding)
>>47520931>>Bring more reactors, and other hive merchandise (write in)Shield emitters, human pattern nutrient paste, holo units
>>47520950Or Lee's election
>>47520950>Funding the campaign for Killinger's opponent in an election.I can taste the salt already.
>>47520918Oh yeah, you're right. I was thinking that because the guns can only go on battleship/hiveships that they must be spinal. My bad.Also>>47520931>Have the Orphan establish a trade route between Leeland and the Lanway system to trade Bumblebee reactorsWe don't need to worry about introducing a bunch of new exotic tech right now. Trading reactors will bring us plenty of money for the time being. Let's just set the trade route and move on for now. Too many new goods will attract more attention than we want.
Holy shit youre back
>>47520931>Bring more reactors, and other hive merchandise(some minor tech we can trade for a valen dissection.)
>>47520931>>Have the Orphan establish a trade route between Leeland and the Lanway system to trade Bumblebee reactorsMaybe see about what other goods we can dip into over time.
>>47520931>>Bring more reactors, and other hive merchandise (write in)And parasite some how?
Even if you want to start a trade empire for hair loss treatment, please take it slowly and actually have a goal in mind for the amount of money we need and what we need it for.
>>47520975>Lee's election.I CAN TASTE THE SALT ALREADY!WE'RE GONNA BE THE LARGEST SALT BARONS IN THE GALAXY!
>>47520931Lets focus on a trade route, we can observe how the market reacts to our new technology and plan for the introduction of other products later.
>Shield emmiters>MEDSAre any of you actually thinking about the effects of helping the human tech industry?
>>47521022This is a smart idea, but i really want the valen dissection.>>47521030>Helping the human tech industry.NO!
>>47520931You have quite the conundrum before you.>Focus only on reactors for now>Include Nutrient paste sandwich spread>Include a variety of non-prescription custom recreational drugs (such things are legal in most Union and Valen systems, but not all.)>Include shield emmitters>Include Holo-projectors>Other
>>47521039Human tech moves pitifully slow compared to the hive. We were born less than 3 months ago. We've already surpassed them in most of their tech.
>>47521063What, we can't include all of them?
>>47521063>Focus only on reactors for nowWhy anyone thinks increasing the supply of shield emmiters is a good idea...
>>47521063What tech could we sell with Theseus installed?
>>47521063>Include Nutrient paste sandwich spread.Can we get a valen for Tech?
>>47521063Lets keep it simple, we can always add more laterFocus >Focus only on reactors for nowAnd possible this, but that's it.>Include Nutrient paste sandwich spread
>>47521075The Orphan is a refurbished Stiletto class corvette, so despite the retrofits to add cargo space, it does not have all that much carrying capacity. You could carry a bit of everything, but not in commercial sale level of bulk.
>>47521063>Focus only on reactors for nowBut also take a few samples of this:>Include a variety of non-prescription custom recreational drugs (such things are legal in most Union and Valen systems, but not all.)so that we can test the market for future expansion.
>>47521063>>Include a variety of non-prescription custom recreational drugs (such things are legal in most Union and Valen systems, but not all.)
>>47521095In that case I'll vote to stick with the reactors for now. Seems to be the costliest commodity by mass we have to offer right now.>>47521063>Focus only on reactors for now
>>47521063We should focus on the reactors, by gathering feedback about their performance we can outsource some of the work that will be needed to improve them. Perhaps set up some sort of page on our company's site dedicated to feedback and performance data. Also this >>47521101
>>47521063>Focus only on reactors for now
>>47521103The Union has 1000 ships in their active military. That's it.They can produce more later, and can refit ready made hulls, but even that will likely be slow compared with hive production abilities.We currently outgun them, out-tech them, and vastly out reproduce them. By the time the humans can incorporate any tech we give/trade to them on a meaningful scale (months) we will likely outnumber them tens or hundreds to one and our tech advantage will only increase. Our FTL also allows us to send the entirety of our fleet to any combat point, while the Union will be spread thin. In short, if we go to war, we've essentially won before the Union even realizes what hit them. Given that we will win any war absent a major fuckup, trading for tech (like some of their crystal research), is probably a good way to go because they won't be able to use our stuff against us in any meaningful way.
>>47521063>>47521095Focus on the reactors.
>>47521155They've been steadily bringing more and more of their ships out of storage ever since thread, oh, thirty or so? They've got a lot more than 1000 ships out there now, and they are very potent ships that could fly circles around our own at the moment.
>>47521155I really like how, in the local space and surrounding star clusters we are hideously over powered and yet we play shadow games as our main hand.
>>47521063>Focus only on reactors for nowYou have faith in your engineering, and with any luck, and good taste on the part of the human and valen markets, which is the only thing you are really worried about, you suspect the mere five reactors assembled on such short notice will not last long, and you order the Orphan's clone crew to disembark as soon as possible to load a full cargo bay of the newly christened Bumblebee.cont.
>>47521186Just like any major political power with equally powerful enemies or just a lot of enemies
>>47521155It's true, we would beat them in a fight.I'm realizing this isn't as big a deal as I thought it was. I still don't think we need that much money when there are better things to do.
>>47521225We need influence, and money is a pretty good type of influence. We're doing other things too, but covering more bases helps.
>>47521193How long can you go for QD?
>>47521274I think the longest he's ever done was 15 hours straight or so.
>>47521179The bumblebee and subsequent compact reactors might be able to help us with a conventional speed problem. We could in time develop a secondary function or entirely new reactor dedicated to being a NT(nuclear thermal) propulsion system. Or we could turn it into a direct thrust engine where plasma is diverted out of the reactor and ejected through a thrust nozzle.
>>47521186Shadow games give us the knowledge that we truly desire.Annihilating them would only give us some planets.
>>47521274>>47521289I've always loved that he can go all night long~
>>47521305>>47521186Also shadow games allow us to display our true power. Being cheeky as fuck buggers
>>47520254Let's see what's left for inspirations.Droids (drones are pretty much organic droids. Ideas for new chassis?)Electro-sword (unless the bio-electectrical carapace gives that effect to drone blades).Mustafarian weapons (energy/kinetic) and Chiss masser weaponry (kinetic/energy/thermal at the cost of range).Gungan bestiary, ionized plasma weapons, extensively used shield tech, and biotech grown vehicles and infrastructure. (I'm surprised as well)Regarding sw superweapons, it was pretty boring. Mainly generic planet destroyers using basic tech but scaled up. More interesting was the star destroyer that was classified as one for being faster than the others, the Omega Frost which was two towers that flash froze everything in between (made me think more about freeze weaponry), and cloaked interplanetary missiles.Pretty much done.
>>47521397Well we know grav waves are a thing that exists. Maybe a gravity generator varient of a sonic weapon? causing hyper gravity and null gravity waves to be sent out in sequence to cause the opposing ships to warp and tear apart.
>>47521397How about, Synths?You know, like the ones from the half life lore.
>>47521417I was thinking one step beyond and having the waves straight up travel through dark matter of dark energy, but gravity as a constant force in the universe works. It's probably simpler to do too.
>>47521417It seems like a hilariously overcomplicated solution when we can accelerate objects beyond the speed of light.
>>47521193Michael sits in the cabin of the Cortez, sifting through notes and old papers in his data pad as he tries to stitch together his career. The ship left Bedrock somewhat behind schedule but not by much, thanks in no small part to Mauser who ended up dragging back an incoherently drunk Jacquees. The commander left the various undocking procedures to the crew, and spent the vast majority of the time chewing out the hungover arnimian as he sat with a dumb smile and a thermal pad pressed to his head, taking it all in without a flinch as if to broadcast to everyone that it was well worth it.She didn't spare Michael either, considering the two left the ship together.Fortunately, or perhaps unfortunately, as the commander would have certainly loved to allow him to wither in his hanover, the medical bay held enough pain killers and emergency hydrator pills to bring him back to service ready condition by the time the ship left Bedrock's proximity. All that was left to do was wait as the Cortez accelerated back to warp.A sudden bump knocks the data pad out of Michael's hands. He reaches into the air as it floats away, and another bump sends it coming back at him, smacking into is face and bouncing away again. He unbuckles his hammock, grumbling as he is about to reach for the pad again, when the ship suddenly jerks to the side sharply, sending him smacking into a wall. A klaxon blares out as a computer voice reads an alert."Red alert, battle stations: all hands." it says blandly. The lights dim, replaced with a blue glow that makes Michael's eyes hurt."What in the hell is going on?" He shouts as he opens the door. Calhoun flies by the door, bounding through the hall to the spine of the ship without a word. Michael follows. He is already out of sight, likely in engineering, by the time Michael gets to the spine himself, and he crawls his way to the bridge.cont.
>>47521457>"Red alert, battle stations: all hands."Alright taking bets. Unity or Ceph raiders?
>>47521417My idea for a big guns is a psychic ram use the siren upgrade at ship lV equip with psychic jammer fire up the jump drive gather the psychic energy and fire long range instant ram with out ever moving the ship
>>47521472If it was ceph we wouldn't know till they killed us.
>>47521472It could just be pirates, or some new faction. I bet it's not Unity, though. Unity really likes to use the big server ships with heavy weapons; which would frankly outclass our little corvette. I could be wrong, though.
>>47521472What about scavenger pirates?
>>47521480....What? Was that supposed to be intelligible?
>>47521537Too far north. There's a couple of Union held systems between them and New Port and if the Scavs were hitting Union worlds, we've had heard of it by now via Killinger.
>>47521457"I want to know what the hell that thing is, and what it's doing this far out on the edge of a Union system." Grey barks. Mordey sits secure in a seat at the navigational console."There's nothing like it in the ship archive. We're at least twelve light hours from the nearest settlement so we don't have real-time with their archives either." He says. "I'm detecting two craft, roughly corvette size. They seem to be emitting atmosphere." He leans in to the screen, studying the readings. "Maybe a hull breach, but they both have it in... no, heat signatures aren't right. I think it's a coolant dispersal vent of some kind. They just appeared on the sensors, I can't explain it.""Well you better start." The commander says. She stands in front of her command seat clutching the armrest in a death grip and turns to Michael. "The hell are you doing here?" Michael is about to say something but she cuts him off. "It doesn't matter, we have two unknowns and they just fired mass drivers. Evasion solution?" She turns to Mordey again. He shakes his head."Too small and too cold. All I know is they fired. No data on velocity or angle.""Well guess and put us where those slugs won't be.""Yes, commander!""Now take a seat before those things hit and you're turned into red paint on the wall." She says to Michael as she sits in her command chair, it inflates around her and a brace locks around her head. Michael finds one of his own that offers a decent view of the tactical hologram. The visual scanners in front of the bridge shows two blurry images, each with a pair of long, slender curved wings slowly extending from their sides, their hulls a dark green."EM sensors just detected the first shot's a miss." Mordey shouts. "Second shot's still-" The ship suddenly jerks upwards, then back as the thrusters quickly right the ship. "Fuck! ah, glancing blow on the cap at noon, no damage, shields steady!"There is something familiar about the two ships on the screen.cont.
>>47521480Which thread did we get the psychic jammer?
>>47521577Are those Skyl ships? They don't look like any we've seen before or my memory's faulty.
>>47521577OQ. shit just got messy.
>>47521577SEND IN SHIPS NOW!
>>47521456I guess the main draw is that it's trickier to defend against.What about cryo-weaponry? Currently we have the cryo-spray in that department which achieves its results through chemical reactions. I remember seeing a discussion on /co/ about through which fictional scientific process the ice-themed villains' powers and weapons would work. The main theories were to shoot particles that would attach themselves to other particles and slow them down, produce a wave of the opposite frequency to cancel out the motion, or a heat vacuum that conducts it all from a defined area nigh-instantaneously.
>>47521598Oh, holy fuck that's the Obsidian Queen, I didn't call it. At all.
>>47521577Oh wait dark green, send in ships for communications.
>>47521613>>47521611>>47521598In conclusion. We don't know what the fuck we are looking at.
>>47521611>>47521601>>47521608If it is the Obsidian Queen we should send in ships anyway, they're hardly going to guess that Michael is undercover just by seeing two space bug fleets fighting each other.
>>47521577>They seem to be emitting atmosphere." He leans in to the screen, studying the readings. "Maybe a hull breach, but they both have it in... no, heat signatures aren't right. I think it's a coolant dispersal vent of some kind. They just appeared on the sensors, I can't explain it."Some sort of rudimentary thermal camouflage?
>>47521636That would be my quess too, no idea who it could be thou
MOTHER HAS RETURNED TO USdo i keep playing total warhammer or do i reread HQQ or do i actually do the essay due friday that is 55% of my final mark, decisions decisions
>>47521629Good call on that. It's always nice to wallow in the OQ's impotent rage. The existence of space bugs will be out of the bag anyway by then...
>>47521677Probably the essay. Playing warhammer and rereading HQQ has no time limit and you can do it whenever at your leisure.
>>47521677Do the essay mang, you can read HQQ once the job is done.
>>47521677Do the essay while reading HQQ, the research descriptions will make you smarter.
>>47521677Well I would re read HQQ, but I'm terrible at managing deadlines and frequently get my papers in late.
>>47521577"I want a full rack of twenty-fives ready to fire!" Grey shouts. "Bring us up six degrees and pop the bubble, I want full tracking and random jinks!"The ship pulls up relative to the targets, then the ship itself pivots back down to track the two ships with its spinal mount as it continues to accelerate slightly sideways. The ship adjusts its course with random slight variations, making it almost vibrate on the tactical display."Commander these things are swerving.""I can see that.""No, I can't explain their maneuvering. It's not a sublight drive like I've ever seen. They've entered an intercept, but their course correction to do it was far from efficient." You disagree, the path they took was perfect for switching between the various celestial bodies of the system behind you in order to lock on to the Cortez's artificial gravity well for intercept. "They're deploying bogies! ten, fifteen, thirty, holy christ!"A cloud of swarm drones deploy around the two corvettes, and begin orbiting closely in a defensive formation. The visual sensor image begins to clear, and you can make out the curvature of the drive wings, the slender silhouette of the corvette's spine, the sweeping protrusions of the weapon hardpoints reaching out along either side. They fire again.cont.
>>47521719"Two more slugs.""Send a warning to Bedrock, they have slugs incoming, they need to clear the space of traffic, and get me an evasion solution!""Working on it!" Mordey says. "We have a firing solution." The tactical display shows a projected image of the Cortez moving sideways over the two ships, firing once as it approaches, and again as it flips around and fires behind it, and then it flips over again as the image of the Cortez vanishes with a large highlight indicating it has reached warp velocity."Load it in, fire the twenty-fives once we pass them to cover our tail.">Have Michael point out weak points in the hull and recommend a course change to help evade>Have a response fleet blink into the system and engage the two ships (write in response force)>Stay silent and watch the battle play out>Other
>>47521731>Have Michael point out weak points in the hull and recommend a course change to help evade
>>47521731>>Have a response fleet blink into the system and engage the two shipsKeep it roughly equivalent, we have nothing to gain from this but pissing off the OQueen and an overwhelming response will spook the humans even more
>>47521731>Have a response fleet blink into the system and engage the two ships (write in response force)Four corvettes, four frigates, four cruisers. A small force, but not overwhelming firepower.There's no logical reason for Michael to know about the weak points in a new alien ship. Space bugs fighting each other is easier to explain potentially. Let's get into this fight.
>>47521731>Have Michael point out weak points in the hull and recommend a course change to help evade.>Have a response fleet blink into the system and engage the two ships (write in response force)Have cloak ships come from somewhere they can't detect us, while Michael points weaknesses in the weapons of the ships.
>>47521745Its hulls are dark green, i think it's another queen.
>>47521774Good point! OQ's ships are all black, right?Can our parasite/any ships in the system communicate? Let's blink in a cloaked ship and try to talk sense.
>>47521731Maybe we should drop cloak and kidnap Michael and the crew.Maybe.
>>47521731>Stay silent and watch the battle play out>Have a response fleet blink into the system and engage the two ships (write in response force)Prepare the fleet as >>47521765 this guy>Four corvettes, four frigates, four cruisers. A small force, but not overwhelming firepower.But wait until Cortez warps out before blinking our guys in.
>>47521731>Have a response fleet blink into the system and engage the two ships (write in response force)like >>47521765 suggests.But if it's a new queen, let's try to talk before shooting.
>>47521731I would rather sit this one out, but if this is new queen...>Have a response fleet blink into the system and engage the two ships 2 cloaked corvettes 2 frigates
>>47521397What about the Interdictor? A starship that generates a gravity well strong enough to pull a ship out of hyperspace.
>>47521817>>47521804I'm the guy who originally proposed. >>47521765At the time I thought we were looking at the OQ and not a new queen. Since this looks like we're meeting a new queen we can still send in the same fleet (or maybe something a bit smaller?), but it's important that we stay cloaked and NOT FIRE first.
>>47521719>Have a response fleet blink inThe various pods scattered throughout Union space have done a great deal to map their systems, and your cloaked scouts within the system itself offer some deal of accuracy in your blink.The mere two corvettes, likely simply scouts adjusted to avoid your interceptors, will be easy prey for any of your ships, so long as you get to them in time.Please roll 1d100 to blink within range of the ships.
>>47521731>Have Michael point out weak points in the hull and recommend a course change to help evadeHow did we go from worrying about a fleet giving Michael away to readily voting for him to start detailing anti hive tactics 101 to the commander?
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>>47521731>Have a response fleet blink into the system and engage the two ships (write in response force)Heavy fleet and Missile Ambush fleet
>>47521862Oh mother, thank you.
>>47521862Well rolled.Now let's TALK and not SHOOT.
>>47521862not now lol
>>47521846Shit, I didn't mean to vote it. I'm retarded
>>47521872Heavy fleet is overkill for this.
>>47521845Broadcast an intent to communicate before engaging, it might be a friendly auntie.
>>47521924Maybe she is a daughter of an aunt, sent to grow and get revenge just like us.
>>47521935HOLY SHIT I JUST REALIZED WE MIGHT HAVE TWO QUEENS!
>>47521935Worst case scenario: she's from OQ's dynasty.
>>47521935That would be really nice. And we have seen hints of other queens around recently. We really do need to talk rather than blow her out of the sky.
>>47521935Best to at least ask first.
>>47521924good point. the OQ's ships were,well obsidion black last time I checked. these are green. maybe try to talk before we blast.
>>47521961Or atleast aim for engines first if they get spooked
>>47521845"Evade, evade!""Multiple contacts, from where the hell?""Adjust course, six-five-five, full acceleration now now now!"The Cortez pulls harshly up and away from its course, sliding across space as it attempts to turn and several of your corvettes blink in to intercept. They are fast, and with your rival's lack of shielding even their meager weapons will make quick work of two of her corvettes. They pull in along a wide arcing path, cycling through the gravity wells of the system with your skid drive."Same silhouettes, same maneuvering path.""Fire the railgun and get us out of here, ass end now!"The Cortez fires its spinal mount, and a moment later the drive wing of the nearest ship breaks to pieces, flying from the hull."Target is unshielded, confirmed hit, but I can't say what we hit." Mordey says. "Multiple sources of fire, incoming!""Evade! Jink up and over and keep them guessing!"You feel the mechanical thought patterns of your rival's thinkers pondering away at firing solutions. With your arrival they immediately begin prioritizing their departure, but you quickly target their drive wings and pick it apart. The rage of the obsidian queen is a mere shadow in their minds, but still ever present. These corvettes will not return to report of this system."Negative. Crossfire, incoming fire has neutralized targets one and two. They're holding position ma'am.""I don't care, get us into warp before they change their minds." Grey says. The cortez quickly flips end for end and accelerates away, folding spacetime into a blanket around itself as it vanishes into nothing.cont.
>>47522001Your ships quickly examine the wreckage. The hulls are soft and poorly formed, absorbing much of your traditional sensor attempts, as well as utilizing far less mass. The entire ship seems to be this way. You wonder the purpose of these modifications, but you also lack the time or cargo space to drag the wrecks out of the system. It won't be long before the Cortez's warning reaches Bedrock and a picket fleet begins to intercept.>Attempt to destroy the wrecks, torch them as much as possible>Leave them be and blink away before you are noticed any more than you have been already>Open communications with local Union forces (write in)>Other
>>47522009Any chance we could verify if this was in fact the nigger queens ships?
>>47522017It is, salt content is off the scale.
>>47522009>Other Try and salvage the wrecks, see if we can gain any intel from the onboard thinkers.
>>47522009>Attempt to destroy the wrecks, torch them as much as possibleGrab some bits and pieces?>>47522017We felt the thoughts of onboard thinkers. We felt the REEEEE of voidslut.
>>47522017>>47522023Then torch it to fuck and book it.
>>47522023>>47522001How is she mad if she doesn't know what's happening? What does it matter if they return to report if she does know what's happening?I'm so confused.
>>47522009Drag the wrecks onto a world. Send down a contingent of drones to analyze as much as possible before self destructing everything.I dont think these are OB's ships, probably a more immature queens.
>>47522033Do we remove all trace of the OQ. leave it and make a quick exit and leave the wreck there for union forces to examine or have a chat with the union.
>>47522009>absorbing much of your traditional sensor attemptsdoes that mean this are attempts at stealth ships?
>>47522033Onboard thinkers carry on her thoughts. We felt them through our psionic sensing.But OQ does not have advanced relays on all her ships, so she won't know what happened here, only that these ships did not return from their mission.
>>47522025This. Grab the thinkers before burning to evade, or at least grab as many hull fragments as we can. Then destroy what we can't take down to the molecular scale. >>47522023Delicious, delicious salt.
>>47522009>board and infect the tinkers, since they aren't connected to OQ we can infect them with hallucinogens to make them hibernate for our surgery pods.>Stay in the system with cloak, when the union comes broadcast a message to fuck off from this place, any attempt they make to communicate will be responded by the same message.
>>47522033She doesn't have a relay in this sector of space so she isn't actually aware of anything that goes on here, she was relying on the thinkers on board to come back and report. OQs thinkers are angry because OQ is angry.
>>47522037I'd think that too, but QD just said they were definitely the OQ's scout ships. Therefore...>Attempt to destroy the wrecks, torch them as much as possibleMaybe we can salvage some of the wreck before Union forces return... but if not we vaporize the wreckage. We also need to think about making introductions to the Union if the OQ scouts are already entering their space...
>>47522009Well if we are sure that it was obsidian queen, then we will see more of these kind of ships.>Attempt to destroy the wrecks, torch them as much as possible
>>47522071I'm taking of the kids gloves, no more stealth, only pain.
>>47522037We really need to build some pirate cruisers in the future, with those harpoon modules. Speaking of which, how is searching through the wreckage of the hive ship and that other unknown ship going?
>>47522082Seems she is attempting to copy our cloaking systems without any understanding of how they work. Which is fine for us, but we are going to be in serious trouble when she finally gets ahold of one of our ship wrecks.
>>47522009we might need to tell our allies that OQ has reached human space.
>>47522076>We also need to think about making introductions to the Union if the OQ scouts are already entering their space...This, guys. Staying silent at this point is the worst thing we can do.>>47522009>>Open communications with local Union forces (write in)Say Hi and tell them we're totally not like those nigger bugs who attacked them.
>>47522009>Attempt to destroy the wrecks, torch them as much as possibleTime is short, and outlying Union traffic has likely already begun responding to your presence. You will do as much damage as you can in what time you have, collecting fragments of the strange, spongy hull material while you grind away at the debris for later analysis.Please roll 1d100, best of 3.
>>47522098Can every one of our ships have a self destruct protocol? A thinker drone that manually activates it when it is about to die?
>>47522009>Open communications with local Union forces (write in)Sorry about that. God that cunt can be such a bitch. You should be better prepared for more of her bullshit antics in the future. Anyway, feel free to stop by again if you want to say hi. We're over at Leeland [give coordinates]
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Rolled 7 (1d100)>>47522131Bad thinker. Recycle yourself. This is not how you do thing for mother.>>47522116for mother
>>47522124>giving coordinatesWhat the fuck.
>>47522009>Open communications with local Union forces (write in)Any ship that comes here will receive a broadcast telling them to get out of here, any further attempts to communicate will trigger the same message, any attempts to board or attack shall be met with weapons fire and reinforcements.Also we are gonna need to send pods to every human system we know.
We really need to establish communications with the Union before the enemy queen does.If she observes what we're doing with the Commonwealth she might get the bright idea to do the same with the Union. It would be dramatically appropriate so I hope I'm not giving the QM any ideas here.
>>47522162Another thing, we are gonna need to invade the black queens system immediately before she closes the tech gap.
>>47522185Doesn't she have a gigantic economic superiority still? She was around for far longer than the three months we were.
>>47522178I doubt obsidian would care, as previously stated even we could run rough shot over humanity, she is much more well developed. Our entire stealth approach is because we know numbers wise we would be fucked. Our one advantage right now is tech.
>>47522178Yeah. This event unfortunately drastically speeds up our timetable for Union communication. We should open communications in the next day or two.We really don't have that much to fear from them. We're more powerful militarily, and have thoroughly infiltrated their leading scientific and political circles. We can't risk OQ getting access to human tech (like shields!)
>>47522116Weapons fire torches the shipwrecks, blasting everything you see to as fine a cloud of dust as you can manage in such a short amount of time. Before long, the ships no longer resemble ships, and you detect a number of approaching picket forces rapidly accelerating towards you, and your ships quickly blink away, your pod watching in silence from behind the advancing responders. You can only hope you scrubbed the evidence clean quick enough.And that's it for this week I think. I'll try to stick around for feedback, questions, ect, but if I stop replying suddenly I have likely collapsed face first on my keyboard.Also feel free to check out the experimental /qst/ quest I finished up a few days ago. A short little two and a half thread long murder mystery, if you're interested. Totally cool if you're not.
>>47522201Yes, but she is recovering from our mothers attack and with our tech we can zerg push as far as we can before the war turns into a standstill.
>>47522142>This is not how you do thing for mother.Well I have bad new for you too.
>>47522215FUCK.i wanted the warning option.
>>47522222No, we can't zerg her out, that's what SHE can do. What we could possibly do is use smaller but more elite forces to do... something. But we don't have anything to do like that. No specific high value target.
>>47522215How far away are we from a feasible mega project to move planet sized objects with a big blink drive or huge rip drive holes in the path of planetary movement? Great for defense and moving things outside the habitable zone into it for easier terraforming.Can we sell technology with copies of Theseus in them and force people to not scan them with an aggressive EULA?
So we may need to start thinking a bout trade cruisers and such for later. Any ideas? I think it should have gravity plating and at least two docking bays.
>>47522260We could just buy human freighter ships with the cash we'll be generating.Since the whole "Hey, are those merchant ships giant bugs?" thing might get awkward.
>>47522215Hey QD, thanks a lot for coming back to this quest. The way you run it and the madness it brings out in your players really make this my all time favorite, it's great to have you back in action running this again.
>>47522242We need to take as many planets from her as possible, hit her where it hurts, in the industry and production of ships.>>47522215Can we make a vote next session as how to open communications with the union? everything else can be shoved to the side.
>>47522276>We need to take as many planets from her as possible, hit her where it hurts, in the industry and production of ships.We can't. We don't have the forces to do a wide offensive.
>>47522276>everything else can be shoved to the side.Don't be selfish, anon. There's no rush. Communications don't need to happen right this moment, they can start within the next few hours or days. It'll take them longer than that to make up their minds anyway. The Commonwealth is only being friendly because of the massive show of force we did in front of them.
>>47522215Thanks for running QD, I'm so glad your back.
>>47522253Planet jacking is.... quite a ways away honestly. At those kinds of scales you would need power on an order of magnitude far greater than you or anyone you know, with possible exception to the crystals themselves are capable of producing, not to mention the issues with the drive's functionality at such a scale.Anything that has a EULA that says you can scan it for viruses is also the kind of thing that a virus scanner will instantly and deliberately scan, not to mention being illegal in most regions of space.>>47522267In time, yes. The valen trade station you are dealing with offers many ships for sale at any given time.>>47522273Good to be back.>>47522276Yes, of course. You can plan out any details you want to discuss here if you want.
>>47522215Thanks for running, thread was great opening for my day.>>47522242>No specific high value targetI wonder where OQ herself is located...
>>47522276I say we stage a massive offensive against her in concert with Theseus and Heretic at the first oppurtunity we get. We can start by hitting Drift while she's still reeling from her defeat at Refuge, and then we take the real prize; First Landing. That was the jewel in our mother's crown and is was the first planet the old queens arrived at after fleeing the crystals, its bound to hold invaluable information. If we can seize Cluster after that, we will have hamstrung a significant chunk of her industrial capacity, as well as secured the entire Cradle from any further incursions by her.
>>47522276>mfw we still haven't dealt with the void crystal the commonwealth is salvaging cause distractions.>now OQ has reached human space.This is horrible.>>47522284We still have to try, even just one planet will be good.>>47522298I don't want communications beyond a simple warning in the human border and patrols preventing OQ from salvaging human tech.
>>47522315Well if she isn't an idiot, somewhere where we'll never find her. Just like us.Or I don't know, maybe the brilliant idea to hide and use decoys is unique, like so many other simple concepts seem to be.
>>47522327>We still have to try, even just one planet will be good.M8, for fucks sake.You can't occupy a city of millions of people with a squad of 14 guys, even if they have better guns.
>>47522317I would also suggest carpet bombing her frontier world's with psychic jammers I know we have that tech and it would cut off her world's from her control making them simple to conquer
>>47522317Good plan, but how are we gonna deal with ground forces? I'm thinking a combination of orbital bombardment and hive creep spread supported by our drones, get a foothold and we can start slowly taking over the planet. with overharvest if we are in trouble.>>47522373This is also a good idea.>>47522353I'm not going to use a small squad, I'm sending the entire fleet and troops.
>>47522327>simple warning Lets include simple sketch to point differences between bad queen's ships and ours, I heard Lee can draw pretty good with crayons.
>>47522406>I'm not going to use a small squad, I'm sending the entire fleet and troops.The entire forces we have would be completely crushed by the enemy's probably several orders of magnitude larger numbers. What we could do is use guerilla tactics, but that isn't going to make us conquer a planet.There's a reason the entire quest up to this point has been played as sneaky infiltrators.
>>47522425"Black ships are bad, red ships are good.">>47522429We still have the advantage of tech, giving us a boost at invading if we use all the ships, but i agree we need to use guerilla tactics, maybe periodic raids in her systems with the intent on causing the most damage possible with the occasional invasion on soften targets, split her forces (especially when she can only use picket fleets to defend her world.)
>>47522406>I'm thinking a combination of orbital bombardment and hive creep spread supported by our drones, get a foothold and we can start slowly taking over the planet.You've pretty much summed up my idea of how it would go. Ground forces really aren't much of an issue when you've got naval superiorty and each shot has the same explosive effect as nuclear bomb. Once we've seized control of a planet's orbit we can take our time picking off any OQ infrastructure on the ground with railguns or bombs before sending in troops to mop up what's left. On top of that as another anon noted we can further fuck with her troops by jamming her connection to them, basically paralyzing them. We've got so many WMD options right now I can't wait to see us let loose just one of them.
>>47522462You just blather out any idea that comes to your mind without thinking it over first, don't you. You aren't even trying, are you.
>>47522309QD, when we were researching bioweapons our drone was making it from scratch, can we repeat this process so we have multiple bioweapons complicated enough that each one needs research for an immunity, even though they all do the same thing?
>>47522470Well I can see that we could take the orbit for a while, but what happens when her fleets converge on us? Tech advantage can only go so far. The advantage of her being an old queen against one that's only been around for three months is a lot more significant. She probably has hundreds of worlds fully developed against our less than one.
>>47522215What kind of weapon was the twenty-five they were referring to?
>>47522501Probably a rail-gun or some other electromagnetic slug thrower.
>>47522481If you see a flaw in my plan point it out, I'm sorry I'm not a strategist.>>47522497She is recovering from our mothers attack and she can't spread too thin.
>>47522507I already pointed it out like five times by now, but you're apparently incapable of understanding it.What would be the point? You'll just say something like "Well, we can probably sneak around her 1000x bigger fleet xD" again and think it's a brilliant plan.
>>47522470Can we equip jammers on our shuttles? Drive by jamming.
>>47522481Like I said a wide area blitzkrieg using psychic jammers to cut off her world's not only is it incredibly painful to her but it makes her drones on planet practical usless it negates numbers advantage because a hive with out queen support are just a bunch of children we could get quite a few world's before her counter attack
>>47522373We could also develop some form of chemical weapon that allows us to subvert their population ala slaver ants.
>>47522488If all your weapons do the same thing then you just need to keep the thing from happening not keep the weapons from doing it. If you've got twelve weapons that all cook men inside their tank via different methods you don't make twelve new kinds of armor, you install a better AC and call it a night
>>47522527Well, before any of this can happen we'd need to do a massive exploration campaign to find out exactly what the size and shape of her territory is. So it's moot for no anyway.
I'm just happy we got to play again after all this time in hiatus.
>>47522543Yeah we do need to scout her it was more of a when we go this would work well kind of idea
>>47522522I think we have good reason to believe her fleet isn't as big as we think it is. Because she was spanked pretty hard by both our mother and ourselves.Or, at least, she has other reasons not to throw her entire bees nest at us. Perhaps pre-occupation with another enemy? All I'm saying is that if her liquid fleet assets were huge, we would have been crushed some time ago.We should probably try to hit the stars of hers that are closest to the expanse. Even if only to destroy her picket forces, burn her planet, and force her to deploy more shit defending it. While we run off and hit something else.We need to play her like a fiddle.
>>47522535The only two ways i see to stop a bioweapon is to build an immunity or prevent it from being used in the first place.Pretty sure OQ isn't smart enough to figure a third way to stop it.>>47522543That is something we need to do, followed by raids on soft targets.
>>47522563And for it to work we need to keep the tech edge and prevent her from getting tech herself.>>47522566You're just making wild speculations and confusing them for arguments here, more or less like I predicted.No, we need to continue doing what we've been doing for now. Build up, get allies, tech up, and figure out what the fuck is going on in the universe. Remember that the obsidian queen is not our ultimate enemy, our ultimate enemy is the crystal-whatevers which have subverted her and many others in the first place.
>>47522566Imagine the salt, OQ constantly losing ships do to our raids and invasions, killinger losing the election to the greens, or even lee.We are going to have to build an entire fleet out of salt to get rid of it all.
>>47522470Most of our infrastructure on Leeland is heavily protected from orbital bombardment by virtue of being underground and reinforced. It's not unreasonable to assume OQ has the same.It would certainly mess up all her surface stuff, hangers and the like, but her infantry would take cover in her tunnels and wait for our ground forces to engage. Better to chew the planet up with a few Immolator warheads, crack the whole fucking thing right open.
>>47522604good point, maybe we can make the nanomines detect drones and tunnels and immediately send in warriors, or just eat the planet core and all.
>>47522604Can we make the nanomines glue a planets crust back together?
>>47522591>(you)>wild speculationThen why hasn't she crushed us with her giant fleet, anon?>continue as usualSure. Just saying that we should take some time out to make sure she's too paranoid or busy replacing lost assets to roll us.>>47522604>immolator warheadsGood idea. A shame we'll probably be destroying what little biodiversity is left. But things happen in war.
>>47522649>Then why hasn't she crushed us with her giant fleet, anon?Because we haven't started invading her worlds, you mongoloid. She doesn't know where we are. We need to keep it that way.
>>47522649I did forget that the OQ is a cunt that ruins planets, now i feel less restricted on bombarding the planet with everything we have and fixing what's left.
>>47522658>Because we haven't started invading her worlds.actually we did remove her from one planet, and have scouted a part of her system, she should have sent more ships to the garden if she suspected us there, she really seems to have a small fleet for how many planets she has.
>>47522658She totally knows were we are she sent a fleet to the Gardners world after all she knows the general area of were our hive is operating if she had a large fleet she would have blanketed the area instead of spending scouts she's looking for us as an individual
>>47522317Or we could target the planet she lives on to capture her after we distrupt her relay network.
>>47522692We removed a minimal amount of her drones. It didn't count as her planet in any real way. We're talking about disrupting her core worlds here, her entire means of industrial production. Her developed and overharvested worlds.
>>47522709She know where we are about as much as we know where she is. Not enough to be useful.
>>47522692>she really seems to have a small fleet for how many planets she hasAccording to QD, the Nigger Queen's battle with Mom destroyed a very significant portion of her fleet strength, and she hasn't yet replenished her strength after that.
>>47522711Disrupting her relay will kill her it's how she killed the Gardner and the other Queens by capturing the relays
>>47522658And we can best keep it that why by blowing up her pods before they can report back to her; as we've done plenty of times already.At this point, we should be making sure she doesn't have the giant fleet we're worried about, by taking it apart piecemeal.Would you rather fight 100 battles of 5 ships, or 1 battle of 500?>>47522711Needle in Fort Knox anon. We may need to satisfy ourselves with blowing up her ships and planets for now.
>>47522728>and she hasn't yet replenished her strength after that.Why not? She had more time than we did. I mean if we can grow up a massive fleet in only a few months, then she must have done it too in the interim. And she had a head start.
>>47522734>Would you rather fight 100 battles of 5 ships, or 1 battle of 500?What does this have to do with sending everything we have to orbit around and hopefully eventually conquer one of her planets?
>>47522731Not nessarily. There are ways to survive it like using the crystals.
>>47522734Except it isn't. We never stealthed through her systems to check and it is possible.
>>47522731Disrupting relays does not kill queens, at most it temporarily severs their connection to all of their drones, much like what we experienced when we initially encountered Heretic. So more like paralysis than death.
>>47522738My guess would be the collapse of her world's economy I mean most of them have had high hive industry on them for 70k years thier something a reason the old Queens were so concerned with capturing new world's the ones she has must be running low on resources by now
>>47522738Idunno, I think she probably thought there wasn't much need to anymore with her primary threat destroyed. She only knew we existed for like a month. Hell it's possible that her industry is inferior to ours that even with all her planets, she can barely produce ships at a slower rate than us.What we do know is:>The Obsidian Queen has more planets than us>Despite this, she has not yet mustered or launched an overwhelming attack against us with fleet sizes that she ought to have.
>>47522711>capture her alive.ABSOLUTELY NOT!>>47522712True, she seems to care little about colonizing new worlds.Her industrial bases will definitely be strong, but by how much, and is she willing to send fleets from it when we take weaker wolds?>>47522734We can't stay in our box forever, we need to hurt her.
>>47522734To add to this, and support >>47522728We should really be blowing up her ships and means of production.We are, after all, fighting a Korean Starcraft player. If she can turtle up and exploit the hell out of resources and whatnot, she WILL have a bigger fleet than us guaranteed. We should ensure that isn't a viable strategy.>>47522738It's a spooky mystery.She might be fighting a multiple front war, though (enemy of our enemy). Or be regretting ruining her planets.>>47522745Because we're not talking about conquering for conquering's sake. It's about denying her resources and ships.The point is to bleed her of these things through raids and whatnot.Not to say we shouldn't take her shit, but it's more important to make sure she can't roll us with ease.
I think what we can get here is that we definately need more intel on the Obsidian Queen's forces and dispositions.
>>47522781>Not wanting to capture her alive so we can steal her hive and her knowlegde Faggot.
>>47522775I can't really see that. All she needs is the raw resources, and those are all over the place around the universe. If the entire section of the galaxy was overharvested then we and other entities like the humans wouldn't have been able to grow either.>>47522779>She only knew we existed for like a month.Which would still give her a massive advantage. Remember that even if she retired her fleets, she still has a much bigger industrial base, so even a week or two would probably let her explode in power.>>47522784>Because we're not talking about conquering for conquering's sake.But we are. You responded to me in a discussion where I was saying that conquering for conquering's sake was pointless, that we have much better things to be focusing on. If you agree with me then that's fine, but you really shouldn't frame it as confusingly as you did.
>>47522816>but we areSorry.My point with that quip was we don't wanna be in the position OQ was when she fought WQ.It was a big climactic battle. And those suck.Ideally by the time we're in orbit of her world she has nothing left to defend herself.
>>47522784We must begin mass scouting and raid missions, invade weakly defended planets and use them to fund our war, if we are fast and efficient enough we might gain the upper hand in industry.>>47522798I'm also thinking of limiting what we use against her so she can't salvage our tech, destroying our wreckage with friendly fire and using standard weapons on our front troops.>>47522816Wasn't her fight with our mother a short time ago? I remember Theseus or us commenting that the fight was mere years ago, but i might be wrong.
You guys do realize if we try conquering her planets she'll just use scorched earth tactic and leave us with nothing.
>>47522847Her fight with the WQ was "within the year."
>>47522847>Wasn't her fight with our mother a short time ago? I remember Theseus or us commenting that the fight was mere years ago, but i might be wrong.Anon, we were down to only a handful of drones and absolutely nothing else only three months ago.
>>47522816>Which would still give her a massive advantage. Remember that even if she retired her fleets, she still has a much bigger industrial base, so even a week or two would probably let her explode in power.She should have but as far as we know she hasn't yet. Which is why need to do aggressive reconnaissance. Scout out where her industry is most vulnerable and whittle them down with raids and kamikaze pods as we build up our primary fleet strength. Capture her planets for our own use if possible.>>47522852With the kind of forces a Hive can muster on a planet, trying to capture one without the use of planetary scale WMDs would probably take too much time and resources. and if use shit like an Immolator Warhead then that most likely precludes us from using the planet ourselves.
>>47522816Itsuki also possible she just doesn't have the world's I mean even if she kills the Queens doesn't me she takes the planet she didn't have the Gardners world and she glassed all of mom's considering all the thinkers and drones left on kill everything stance after thier Queens died she just might not have the world's we think she does
>>47522852We're gonna use orbital bombardment after the removal of her picket fleet, so i think that's impossible besides some bombs in bunkers detonating, which doesn't matter as well be using immulator warheads.
>>47522865I'M SORRY WHAT?
>>47522871>With the kind of forces a Hive can muster on a planet, trying to capture one without the use of planetary scale WMDs would probably take too much time and resources. and if use shit like an Immolator Warhead then that most likely precludes us from using the planet ourselves.You forgot about the auto-Overharvest spores.If you want to capture anything intact you have to first capture the Queen.
>>47522895The entire reason mom made us was because she was losing the war. Since we first woke up about three months ago, that means the war was probably over within six months ago, so a full year is a generous estimate.
>>47522865>>47522895The fight between our Mother and the Obsidian Queen was less than a year ago.We hatched from our pod 3 months ago.The Obsidian Queen still hasn't recovered from her beating in the time we went from just ourselves to having a star polity powerful enough to rival the Union.
>>47522880You guys just want to death star a planet I'm fine blowing up a few but we can give the enemy warriors sizeurs with the siren jaw augment and jammers so there's no real need to fear a ground assault
>>47522880>We're gonna use orbital bombardment after the removal of her picket fleet, so i think that's impossible besides some bombs in bunkers detonating, which doesn't matter as well be using immulator warheads.>Destroying our ancestor's planet, potential tech and intel on the crystals for petty revenge.Fuck off.
>>47522906It's a damn shame we failed to capture the OQ's relay on her Hiveship, that would have pretty much ended the war right there. Highly anticlimatic but i guess QuestDrone would have gone with it if the Dice God's had favored us.
>>47522932but the enemy will have underground tunnels which are hard to detect and destroy.
>>47522974I would agree if two humans hadn't done both those things to us with little trouble
>>47522999They did it when we barely had anything set up yet, we let them prance around unopposed, and rolled a critfail. It's not comparable.
>>47522999I forgot about that but they did have a general location of our hive to make it easy. guess we can use whatever tech they used to find tunnels.
>>47523033Shouldn't we be able to use acoustics and ground-penetrating radar to map tunnels? It's what we use today.
>>47522974>>47522999>>47523033Not just tunnels.The enemy hive will be covered in (probably literally) aggressive creep. It will be swarming with enemy drones who are more than happy to come on until the last.We should hit them with the WMDs first, if only to soften them up before we enter Space Bug Vietnam.
>>47523058Those don't work from orbit, and who knows how deep the tunnels are.
>>47522649>Then why hasn't she crushed us with her giant fleet, anon?Because she doesn't know the size of our fleet or if she can defend against a counter-assault while launching an all out attack.
>>47523070Yeah making beach heads will be important but we have the advantage in troop strength and ourun creep is harder to remove when we get the fuzz balls DNA and can increase its growth speed we should have the stronger creep to the only things she has that worries me are those icor bugs thier gooie kamikaze attack did a number on us last time we fought that and the psyionc attacks from the relay
>>47523070alright let me explain a general invasion scenario.1) blink fleet to attack weakly defended planet, remove all enemy ships.2)begin orbital bombardment, use those nanomachine bombs that devours everything to clear zone for our troops and hive creep bombs.3)begin land war with troops, jammer shuttles to disrupt enemy drones and flamethrower/cryospray to remove the enemy creep, use acoustics and radar to detect tunnels and bunkers.4)when we have more that half of the planet in our control send in nanomines to dig into the mantle (but not the core) build space elevators to build ships and reinforce our fleet.The plan can be change as situations occur.
>>47523133Yea we need a hard counter to that.
>>47523183Your plan depends on the enemy not doing anything. If this were a computer game it's basically like you used cheat codes to turn the AI off.
>>47523224The enemy will obviously do something, that's why the plan is merely a scenario we can change when the war gets complicated.
>>47523249Your plan isn't a plan at all, it's just a rough outline of goals. If you want a real plan you should account for the most glaringly obvious flaws, like why exactly the enemy is just letting you orbit its planet and conquer shit without counterattacking.
>>47523183Don't forget egglayers to reinforce our units on site
>>47523295An increase of raids in her systems while we hold the planet, constantly sending reinforcements, getting Theseus and heretic to buff up our fleet, building ground to orbit defense. Anything you can add?
>>47523340I thought that was an obvious part of the ground invasion, i apologize.
I just had the idea of using our money to buy metal from trade, it will give us a minor boost.
>>47523341Well we'll need to remove thier ground to space batteris the OQ works like a normal queen in regards to war strategy numbers because of this the first few days of the invasion will be the hardest because on the surface she'll be able to abuse her numbers we don't know what her air force is like but we can assume it equivalent to ours. So our first goal on planet is to get rid of her rail guns so our ships can bomb her hangers with out suffering counter fire after words we take out farms to slow thier breeding while increasing ours then we bunker down and start digging once we're in tunnels we be able to more effectively use or superior troops thanks to the tight spaces their numbers advantage is negated how's that for a plan?
>>47523351No your right I was being dumb I apologize
>>47523467No no no, I apologize.
>>47523478I'll accept even though I'm at faltSo are we going to talk Drone design now we do have some things we need to counter
>>47523438didn't know she had railguns, someone said something about us being the only queen to have planetary defense due to the humans, that assumption got stuck in my brain, I'm sorry. Everything else is very good, especially the farm bombing, i expected that we would bomb specific structures but i forgot about the farms.>>47523514I'm not good at drone design but i will try to trow around suggestions.
>>47523514How about a digger warrior with a jammer.used on scouting missions for tunnels, pared with a radio sensor drone and warriors.It will lead the group digging until it reaches an enemy, it will then use it's jammer to shock them so it can retreat and let the warriors kill.
>>47523341You still didn't respond to what you're going to do when she sends her massive fleet to kick you out.
>>47523599>massive fleet.mother kicked her abdomen a year ago, our tech advantage allows us to win a battle slightly outnumbered, and the raids will prevent her from sending everything since she will need stronger picket fleets.Also you didn't add anything.
>>47523546Thanks I just figured ground to space defense was for all Queens I'll admit to not remembering everything about that I admit to not have many ideas on how to counter the icor bugs my best idea right now would be to create a large amount of small expendable dronest to act as a screen other than that I would also suggest removing to acid bombs in our drones it's good for covert operation but we don't want our warriors running the risk of blowing up at a lucky shot.Also I noticed that while our drones have multiple hearts they don't have multiple brains so using celph biology we could add back up brains just in case>>47523581Sounds good to me>>47523599Run of course also invisible minefields no shields on ships leaves them quite week to nukes surprisingly enough
>>47523681>invisible minefields.Fucking genius.
>>47523709The best part is because of our drives we know exactly were the have to go to get at us because we can only travel towards gravity wells
>>47523681a counter to the icor bugs would be anything with a huge radius of death, cryospray with a bigger cone of spray, snipers to cover some of our troops from lucky one that survive, and miniaturizing the flak wall of our ship weapons for personal drone use.
>>47523649>a year agoSo what you're saying is, she took her bigger industrial base and had about twelve times as long to form a fleet as we did?
>>47523681>>47523709>minefields in the middle of spaceWe'd need more than the mass of Leeland in mines to cover even a small portion of space well.
>>47523838No she glassed the planets she didn't take them well she used the immolater warheads on them
>>47523855See>>47523727We also don't need to place them before they arrive the strategy worked quite well the first time we did it
>>47523894Even a small cone outwards from a planet is a ginormous volume of empty space.We'd be better served by building a few more hiveships than setting up minefields. Both are ridiculous expenditures, but at least the hiveships can move around.
>>47523894How about the mines are pods, cheap, expendable, easily massed produced and can blink when we have removed the ships to set up and can be reused when we have gained control of a solar system.
>>47523941So, attack pods? Didn't we already do that?
>>47523950We did? just use those as nuke mines then, with the advantage of being able to move.
>>47523958They aren't mines if they're able to move.
>>47523958Exactly now your getting it
>>47523969Wouldn't it be better if they did move?
>>47523969Don't minds use magnets to move and stick to ship halls my knowledge of navle warfare is lacking
>>47523984Yeah, it would be. Spending resources on something that isn't mines is a great idea.>>47523999They're passive shit you leave behind and forget about it. Something that moves under its own power, especially if it's guided, would be called a torpedo underwater.
Another idea is to add manufacturing ships to our invading fleets, with stockpiles of metal and nutrients, making them replace small ships and making cheap cannon fodder.I also must mention the urgency of making a division of quantum thinkers for tactics, make them randomize certain small details so OQ will never find a weakness.
>>47524030>manufacturing shipsDon't we already have this functionality basically everywhere we touch? So, more like a freighter?>I also must mention the urgency of making a division of quantum thinkers for tactics, make them randomize certain small details so OQ will never find a weakness.That's not urgent until she starts predicting us, which hasn't happened yet. Quantum thinkers are unpredictable and tend to get into arguments, so they're not a good idea for tactics.
>>47524043Well we don't need freighters we can teleport resources anywhere
>>47524028>They're passive shit you leave behind and forget about it.I refer it if they could be easily relocated, which the pod can do.>>47524030another thing is to make our raid fleets as disposable as possible and as destructive as possible, with multiple ways to self destruct, like a warrior standing next to the nuclear fusion reactor ready to break it and devourer nanomachines that activate the minute the ship is disconnected from us due to loss of relay.>>47524066I forgot that too, i really need sleep.The ships should still be there to manufacture cannon fodder though.