From street-level to cosmic and everything in between, this is the thread to discuss all things superheroic, at least as tabletop games go. Mutants & Masterminds, Marvel Heroic, Heroes Unlimited, Dark Champions, Villains and Vigilantes, and any other system out there, this is the thread for you if you want to feel superhuman.>System repositoryhttp://pastebin.com/bU7vZFANCape World pastebins:>The Generalshttp://pastebin.com/4ZEeWk7F>Statesmenhttp://pastebin.com/qCgQBDgr>Hollywoodhttp://pastebin.com/2Bp49SEa>Las Vegashttp://pastebin.com/ysD4JsRR>Japanhttp://pastebin.com/wz33giaC>Germanyhttp://pastebin.com/pVweBM4F>Generals' Villainshttp://pastebin.com/gms0S8VbPrevious Thread:>>47358480Topic: We talked about WW2 last thread, now we move the clock up to talk about the car war, about when super-heroes were super spies, about a time of Radioactive Men and Black Widows.Also when Cape World nearly killed Korea and the rest of the planet.
>Reposted from last thread. Cold War german supervillain.Sohn vieler Welten - a german Man, that went nuts as his daughter from the west and his son in law from the east side of the iron curtain got gunned down near the berlin wall. Developing a split personality and terrorizing the splitted german, his methods to try and unite the country grew more and more horryfieng, until he could be put down. Stuck into an asylum, he is slowly recovering. His abilities depended on the region he was currently in. Developing a split personality based on the region he was in. By the time of his downfall, he had reportedly over a hundred of them, each with an different field of expertise. But still, only human.
>>47392637i'm assuming 'cold war'
what system lets me be the Rider?
So far for Cold War era capes we got:A Captain Justice that worked for McCarthy rounding up suspects for hearings and acquiring dirt.A living, barely contained WMD cape that worked for Russia.General Atom, politician and molecular controller that was a general in the Russian army. Transcended the planet following glasnost when he wanted to find some place to belong to and not be a cold war relic.A Berlin based cape whose identity, powers, and skills depend on what side of the wall he's on. An "amnesia noir" themed hero who isn't sure what he's done or what he's going to do.>>47392679He's probably got the Hossier write up from last thread on the brain.>>47392702All systems. Rider is forever. Rider is in the soul.Anyone have ideas for super-spy capes?
>>47392637Clearly we're missing out on something awesome.Is or isn't australia Mad Max Land?
>>47392747>Anyone have ideas for super-spy capes?not off my head, but in Band of Zombies the Americans make Super Spy Zombies Russian has Tesla Zombies Nazis use Mystic Zombies
>>47392590Err...I think I'll just edit some of my ideas for the Cold War.The Collective: During the Chernobyl nuclear crisis, the top of the nuclear plant was covered in radioactive shards. Soviet leaders brought in expensive robots, but these robots were costly and failed because of the radiation. The Politburo commanded hundreds of low-ranking soldiers to do the same job the robots failed to do. These soldiers began to exhibit anomalous tendencies such as unusual coordination and efficiency. Soon after, soldiers began speaking in unison and referred to themselves as the Collective. They somehow developed a single unified consciousness while working on Chernobyl. Each member of the Collective can assimilate another free individual into the Collective. Due to the sheer mass of the Collective's computing power, it has became an incredible resource to Soviet scientists and generals. The Collective is watched over by a nuclear fail-safe option in case it has different ideas.
>>47392856It's dreaming and song lines land. But it has enough big outback dreaming creatures that one could easily justify guys making roadsters to corral and handle them...
As mentioned in the last thread, the Cold War brought rise to what we know as the superspy. Granted, superspies have always been a thing, even in WW2, but it was during the chill of the Cold War that they really rose to prominence. In a way, it was a revitalization of pulp adventures. Regular superheroes had some difficulty ranging out abroad, but it was these quieter and more down-to-earth legends that came to fascinate people. Many an eclectic organization formed out of this era, some to ensure world peace, others to take the world for themselves.The typical superspy may have had superpowers, but they usually had a few hallmarks (depending on your country): an eye for detail and investigation, a sense of daring, a silver tongue, a trusty pistol, and a wide range of esoteric and sometimes bizarre gadgets. They went on globehopping adventures and tangled with quite the cast of characters.
>>47393015In essense, the superspy was a different kind of pulp hero at the time. They were smarter, better equipped, had a larger support network, and didn't just tangle with gangsters all the time.
>>47392856>>47392918It's not pastebinned, but this thread was the source of all the Australia stuff.Cape Australia is a hell of a fun place. Raindow Serpent Dad and Cannibals that hunt supers.And Kellymen. I can totally see a group of Mad Max guys working like big-time Crocodile Hunters in the outback with the aid of their super-machines.I suggest the thread link be added to the OP because it's easier than going through it and pastebinning. All the stuff is there.
>>47393261And I forgot to post the link because I'm a shit.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/47227809/
>>47392890Now this has potential. A collective inside the collectivist USSR. In many ways its the ideal of USSR but they keep them on a tight leash out of fear.As an interesting twist have them be a -good- hive mind. They won't assimilate you unless you want to be assimilated. The USSR fears them because they represent an evolution of their ideas where the need for a strong government and politburo is done away with. The collective is pure socialism to each according to their need without power structure. Everyone is equal in the collective. There is no Stalin or KGB. And the thing that scares Russia the most is that they're losing people to the collective. Their best and brightest are turning themselves over to the collective. Willingly. In the market place of ideas they're losing and they're losing hard.The collective might be one of the reasons for the eventual glasnost. The government realized they had to sell their society to the people or lose them to the collective, so they had to start granting more freedoms and rights.They're probably still around today. Just a happy science-town where everyone thinks and dresses the same. They've won nobel prizes attributed to just "the collective".Good idea?
>>47393015>>47393095To be expected, the most "famous" and prolific of superspies were American, British, or Russian, but that's not to say there wasn't representation of other countries. This is especially true when you have these international peacekeeper organizations that seem to intentionally blur the lines between countries (e.g. the main character duo from "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." is explicitly an American-Russian duo).
>>47393015>>47393095I want Cape World to really go deep into the psychedelic mind-fuck stuff like the Prisoner.Imagine how fucked up being a super spy will be when there are people that can rearrange your thoughts and memories at will.
>>47393488That's why many superspies developed psychological failsafes in case something goes wrong under deep cover and they need to preserve their identity.
>>47393447Naturally, the Japanese did things their own way. When they weren't dressed trendy and following the trends of other superspies around the world, Japan's superspies were straight-up ninjas. I mean, why not leverage what you've already got? Some organizations claimed to have ninjas on their payroll, but the truly good ninjas would never submit themselves to merely be mooks. They had their own techniques, their own tools, their own ways to get to where they needed to go, and - to be expected - they were famously dangerous in close quarters combat. Some ninjas even moonlighted as demon hunters, as some of their ancestors did before them. The Japanese "superspy" really was something of a dynamo.
Continuing Blue Crab write up:The sub is not only a weapon and a tool. Its Rawling's home away from home. Many are surprised when invited on board that one of America's greatest weapons and defenders is actually quite cozy on the inside. Rawlings has a fridge full of food and drink, a cot for sleeping, a picture of his Rhode Island home, some books (but never a radio or television besides a communications system. He likes the quiet beneath the waves too much to ever disturb it), and some fishing equipment on the corner for when Rawlings brings the sub above the water and does some fishing.PERSONALITYRawling is a calm, hardworking, reliable man. He believes with all is heart in the spirit of human enterprise and scientific exploration. There is no challenge that cannot be met with calm dignity and clear thinking, and even problems that might never be solved by man are worth attempting.He's not a loner. He's a warm, grandfatherly member of the super hero community. Many generations of super heroes remember Captain Rawlings as a man that believed in them and supported them through their triumphs and failures. But he does value his self-sufficiency. He's never married and he's never had a family having devoted all his time and energy to super heroics or ocean science and exploration.He doesn't want to be a burden to anyone and this is why he hides his failing health from others. He insists on being the Blue Crab until the day he dies. He considers dying behind the wheel of his beloved vehicle either defending America or exploring the waters that he loved a perfect end to his long and storied life.RELATIONSHIPSRawling is one of the most beloved figures in the super hero and scientific community. Everyone loves the Blue Crab. Kids sleep with little Blue Crab plushies. He's on several stamp sets. He's won several awards which he has always accepted with blushing humility. He's a mentor figure, especially to the young COAST GUARDIANS.
>>47393672>the truly good ninjas would never submit themselves to merely be mooksAs in, the "good" ninja agents were one-man armies like any other superspy. The two-bit ninja mooks you see deployed en masse by certain villanous organizations were not of the same caliber. Sure, it would kick up a fuss back in Japan if any given ninja clan (and trust me, there were plenty of those) aligned with an evil group and offered their ninjas as footsoldiers, and that clan would be dealt with domestically while the international superspy wrecked the mooks out in the field.
>>47393825They treat him almost like a father, and he's the one that keeps their love triangle from growing out of control and leads them on missions. The members confide their deepest secrets and fears in him, and even MADAM DELPHINE has cried on his shoulder, although the Voodoo Queen would never admit it to anyone.He maintains a good relationship with the Hollow Earth and Mystic Archipelago having explored them for decades. Thule calls him "The Blue Turtle" as the closest thing to his sub's appearance in there waters are giant turtles with islands growing on their shells. He tries not to make his visits to Thule known unless its a holiday like Christmas because he doesn't want them to throw a party for him all the time. He's made it a habit to bring toys and candies from Earth to give to Thule children having learned that the Thule do not have a Christmas and that with a beard and red suit he's a good match for a certain character...IS THE BLUE CRAB BEING THE SANTA OF THULE OKAY OR IS IT TOO TWEE OF A DETAIL?
>>47393947NEW PLOT HOOK, REPLACE THULE SANTA.
>>47393836I like this detail, and it makes sense. The good ninja agents would get the top of the line training and support while the bad ninja agents wouldn't be able to train at the same level baring exceptions like Sensei Serpent and Viper Strike, although those really aren't "ninjas" but martial artists.
>>47394014Does that mean you want the detail dropped?
>>47394065I think he wants a plot where evil not-Aquaman is trying to literally cancel Christmas for the Thule people, and the Blue Crab is having NONE OF THAT SHIT.
>>47393947I personally like it
>>47394065I think it's good and hilarious as a hook. Blue Crab is preoccupied, so you need to replace him. Who's a bad enough dude to be Santa for fish kids.
>>47394188>>47394182>>47394065Alright. I'll keep the detail in.I have to go back and add some stuff under powers and abilities for how Rawlings likes to fight in the Blue Crab. Also need to add his quote. Bleh,I know I'm making a mess but It'll be cleaner when it's all compiled
>>47393947Pretty fucking great detail tbqh mi familia.
>>47394471I'll try and ponder a quote while I do some write ups, since I was Blue Crab's OP. Though given how good you've done the description so far, I'm not worried about it.
>>47394471POWER AND ABILITIES (Addition)Rawlings can fight from a distance with blasts from his "clicks" but prefers to handle targets claw-to-hand. Let his enemies worry about lining up their torpedo shots while he's wringing them into scrap. He's capable of keeping on an enemy that avoid his initial attack, never giving them a moment's rest a he grabs them in his claws and readies powerful point-blank "clicks".For a weaker BLUE CRAB sub or for a BLUE CRAB from a world with less-super science a GM can consider dropping his DPS system and its super-science magic which will leave the BLUE CRAB sub as a sturdy vehicle with pincer claws.QUOTE: (Well more of a speech, but I think Captain Rawling can make due with a speech)"Ah heck son, "What's the point of The Blue Crab" ain't such a hard question to answer. I suppose the point of the Blue Crab is to show that "you can do it". Or rather "we" can do it. You know, humanity as a whole. You know what I mean son. You can do it. You can figure things out and build things and change things and it'll all work out in the end. There are bit of my old Blue Crab up in those space stations and in the suits of those Argo Boys. They told me after we dropped the D-bomb on Japan that we'd be lucky if we didn't explode our planet in a few years like some of the extra terrestrial civilizations and decades later they tell me that we're here still just because of luck. Well I don't think its luck. I don't think we're meant to destroy ourselves or others. I think we're meant to learn and grow and become better than we were yesterday. Listen, it's all just an ocean son. Whether its science or the 3 Earths or a multiverse or outerspace its just an ocean filled with horror and beauty and wonder. And let me tell you, as an old man whose been down in the ocean a lot let me tell you, its worth going back down there no matter how bad the last dive went Always."GOOD QUOTE? SHOULD I SHORTEN IT?
>>47394854Hell, I think you could shorten that to, "It's worth going back no matter how the last dive went. Always."Sums up his viewpoint on life.
>>47394905Bingo! Sounds great!
>>47393015>>47393095>>47393447>>47393672>>47393836How's that for an initial primer on superspies? What else should be noted?
>>47394939maybe who makes their gadgets?
>>47394939Something on robot spies. Sexy, dangerous gynoids that can fold themselves into brief cases.
>>47394974Every good organization or allied government has their own quartermaster, but I imagine these various quartermasters have their own guild where they get together and talk shop. Imagine an entire room of people like Q comparing designs.
>>47394905>>47394854>That feel when a /tg/ created guy in a crab sub is more like Superman than movie Superman.
>>47395018>Robutt superspyWould that even be possible? It's hard to be subtle, even if you're a sexy gynoid.
>>47395100Siberian winters are long and lonely comrade. Long and lonely.
>>47395137>Slapping your dick onto freezing cold metal
Palefag reporting in. Got home, I'm working on File 1. Also, is it wishful thinking to hope Capeworld has Superplanes that aren't a glorified tuna can?>>47394854>D-bomb on JapanI'm sorry, I get that we're talking about mass casualties, but you know somebody would make the joke.>>47395167>implying inferior metal makes soviet gynoid as opposed to soft, supple, yet strong Communist iron.
>>47394854How old was Rawlings when entering world war 2? Just wondering. cause how old he was then can have an effect on how old he is now. Hell imagine a "young and impertinent" Rawling being buds with the Fishermen.How he started with a scrappy mustache and chinfuzz to grow into full on sailor's beard as an adult ant old man?
>>47395018>>47395100>>47395202Jokes aside, that could raise an interesting point. Making an android into a superspy would eventually result in making them more convincing as time goes on. Silicon skin, replicated biomechanics, and so on would have to improve if robots wanted to become convincing spies, assuming robots themselves weren't already commonly accepted.
>>47394854>>47394854RELATIONSHIPS (continued)Rawling has fended over several arch-foes throughout his career from Empress Zorse of Hollow Earth to the Ghost Pirate Armada, but his current foe is a Japanese teenager named Jae Abe who pilots a sea craft based on the Blue Crab dubbed "Kaiser Octo". Jae is the genius son of a sea life poacher and he follows in his father's footsteps. KAISER OCTO is an enormous mechanical octopus with its own DPS and a gadget on every arm. It improves on the Blue Crab on all metrics and Jae could make his legacy as a scientist and engineer but he is determined to be a poacher like his father, hunting down exotic prey in the Mystic Archipelago. Although he has the better machine he keep losing to Captain Rawling's Blue Crab when they fight because he lacks experience and skill, only barely escaping capture each time. He's slowly grown obsessed with defeating Rawling over his original goal of poaching and now attacks protected wildlife just to draw Rawling out for another fight. Jae originally viewed Rawling as an old fart, but now respects him as a worthy opponent and fellow super genius. Rawling sees Jae as a young man in danger of wasting his potential and hopes that one day he will turn over a new leaf and go straight. Rawling can be an old friend or a mentor figure to the PCs depending on how old and experienced they are. He's always willing to talk to young supers about their problems over an afternoon of fishing and impart them sagely advice. He could be the "Pa Kent" of a campaign, giving the PCs moral and practical advice. If the PCs are aquatic themed or have a mission involving water Blue Crab could and his Coast Guardians could be a great team-up option. He's also a potential source of transportation for the PCs, functioning in a role similar to that of HOOSIER except subbing in old fishing stories for taxi driver small talk.
>>47395333He'd likely be quite young. Maybe even too young to really enter WWII officially, but it was the time of the wunderkind anyways...
How would this be for a character for an upcoming M&M game I'm gonna be in?>Night Bat>Knight and bat motif>Has control over shadows>Weapon of choice is a baseball bat>Vigilante that fights crime from the shadows
>>47395612>>47394854>>47394854DIRECTIONThe BLUE CRAB is nearing the end of his days and his health is failing. It is up to the GM to interpret whether this means he has decades or years or months left in his life. But he's old and he hasn't done much thinking about plans for the inevitable. He doesn't want to burden anyone with anything like a will. He doesn't want anyone to feel obligated to his wishes and trusts the super community to do whats best with his estate and Blue Crab sub. And if he attempts to write a will and people find out he's afraid they might panic and become protective of him. But such views could easily create tricky situations after his death and the PCs might want to convince him to make plans and a will. The trickiest question will be what becomes of the sub and name BLUE CRAB? Who, if anyone, should carry on the legacy? One of the PCs? A navy engineer? One of the Coast Guardians? Jae Abe?1. THE THEFT OF THE BLUE CRABThe BLUE CRAB sub has been stolen! A ransom note left behind claims that it has been seized by "Davy Jones' Locker" and that Rawling can have it back for several million dollars.Not being a rookie hero Rawling has several tracking devices installed on the sub and recruits the PCs to retrieve the sub, possibly with the help of the COAST GUARDIANS.When the PCs come along the Blue Crab they find that "Davy Jones" is a young man similar to Jae Abe deep in over his head. He's a super genius without much wisdom or common sense and he's parked the Blue Crab near a radar-jamming aquatic vent that happens to be territory claimed by the ZORSE EMPIRE of Hollow Earth. This empire of humans and reptilians led by the daughter of Blue Crab's old nemesis EMPRESS ZORSE is far less militant than it used to be, but its fiercely protective of its borders and have started to lay siege to the stolen BLUE CRAB.
>>47395662I see him being about in his twenties, maybe even less. He was probably as young as the Coast Guardians when he fought Water Pressure Soldier.
I know I missed the WWII stuff, but I promised a write up of the Olympia Project, so here goes. If anyone wants to punch it up, feel free, or to suggest better names, but the gist of it’s here.Much has been said about the Nazi obsession with the supposed purity of the Aryan race, and how, as part of Hitler’s interest in super-science as one of many paths to victory, the Nazi study of eugenics began. The party was convinced that through breeding, a better man could be created, one with none of the flaws of lesser races or the weaknesses that lead Germany into ruin after the previous war. True eugenics takes time, however, time that Germany did not have. Instead, they turned to Swiss émigré Dr. Marcel Reimann, an early pioneer in genetics and cloning, who proposed what became the Olympia Project. Though Reimann did not necessarily ascribe to the Nazi rhetoric, he held firm to the belief that science could create a perfected human. True science, he reasoned, required a certain amount of amorality. He promised the party that proof of both their theory and his super-science would arrive in time to show the world the superiority of the new German race.
>>47395875Sounds pretty good. Casey Jones plus the The Darkness.
>>47396088Rainer and Catharina Schulte made their debut to the world at the 1936 Berlin Olympics. The brother and sister pair swept the events they competed in and the world basked in the sight of the flawless, blonde haired and blue eyed German twins. They even became the focus of Leni Riefenstahl’s iconic film 1938 film Olympia, which showed the artistry of their peak human forms, seeming proof that the Aryans were gods among mere mortals. But soon after that, Germany went on the march, and the twins were repurposed as part of the Übermensch Gesellschaft. Rainer became OLYMPIAD, while his sister Catharina took the moniker SIGRUN, or victory. The twins were utilized more as propaganda than anything; anytime the Nazi war-machine secured a foothold, cameras were there to witness Olympiad and Sigrún detaining prisoners, or treating civilians with kindness and care. Nevertheless, both were formidable fighters. They lacked the more overt powers of Odin, Son of Sigfried, Astrid, and other members of the Übermensch Gesellschaft, but were almost superhumanly capable with any weapon put into their hands. Combined with the twins’ peak human athleticism and reflexes, even some powered resistance fighters found themselves outclassed by the pair.Olympiad and Sigrún fought into the latter years of the war, evading capture even as the tides began to turn. In the aftermath of Germany’s surrender, their bodies were discovered in the rubble of a destroyed building, the casualties of an Allied bomb.That is the official story.
>>47396111Thanks, anon, that's actually a pretty good way to describe him.
>>47396141The secret history is far different. Project Olympia was an unqualified failure, and if it had not been for their use of propaganda, the twins would never have made it into the war proper. Reimann’s cloning and aging process was flawed. Inevitably, the pair would descend into madness. Sometimes Catharina went first, as she did in 1937, throttling her brother in his sleep and barricading herself in her room for two weeks, until she passed out from dehydration. They discovered she had been eating from Rainer’s corpse. Other times it was more subtle, such as Rainer’s successful poisoning of an entire German encampment in 1940. He then absconded with his sister into the countryside. Nazi soldiers found and shot them before they made it into enemy territory.Every time, a new pair would be created, Reimann making another attempt at perfection. And every time, he would fail. His final failure cost him his life. As the Allies closed in, Olympiad and Sigrún began acting secretive, even erratic. The handlers noted the tell-tale signs of impending madness, but discovered the extent of it far too late. The twins had begun their own eugenics work – and a bizarre sexual relationship – with the intent of creating their own superior race. Not German, not Aryan, but Olympian. The German military stormed Reimann’s laboratory home where Rainer and Catharina had been staying, only to discover Marcel Reimann strung up by a noose in his lab with the next pair of clones, unfinished, dead on the floor. All his notes and research were gone. And then the bomb the twins had set went off, destroying the entire building.They haven’t been seen since. Presumed dead, they could still be out there, intent on finishing Project Olympia.
>>47396184Good write up. Is that all of it?
>>47396184Powers: The twins are peak human. Equally skilled with ranged, melee weapons, and hand to hand combat, they are on par with the best athletes the world has produced. When not taken by madness, they also possess keen intellect and a voracious appetite for learning, all programmed into their personalities by Reimann himself. Expect them to be masters of many skills, to speak many languages, and to be very deadly if you aren't prepared. Rainer's interests - again, programmed into him - lie towards history and military strategy, as well as art and especially classical music, making him the more bookish of the pair. Catharina is a sportswoman through and through, always eager to compete and test her physical skills against those who might hope to compare.Potential Plot Hooks:Always desperate to avoid the mistakes of the past, modern Germany would be aghast to discover that Olympiad and Sigrún had continued the eugenics experiments. In a more overt plot, the descendants of the twins could attempt to stage a coup and take over a country, even Germany itself. They make the perfect sleeper agents, able to be programmed with almost any identities and activated at any time.For a twist, perhaps one of the children of the twins approaches the heroes and explains their story. They learn that, far from being conquerors, the Olympians simply want to be left alone. However, someone is targeting the Olympians, killing them off one by one. Will the heroes help? Can you trust the products of Nazi super science, even ones as earnest and honest as these seem to be?
>>47396284Yep, that's all I got. Next I'll do The Desert Fox - an example of super-powered sharing between Axis powers. And then I'll finish with Die Volksfechter - a German duplicator who will become one of the Cold War's most dangerous freelance agents.
>>47396088I am new here but I want to help.Nazi Germany was obsessed with racial purity, so why not use time travel and take a pure Aryan who could be spared from causing any historical hiccups. The result was a man that can looks like a German and an Indian, or a Scotsman and an Iranian, a Roman or a Russian. Basically he is world's wandering Conan.He escaped captivity immediately and has since journeyed the world in adventure and trouble-making.An idea for a neutral aligned hero who gets on everyone's nerves and can play around for all sides to a point.Powers:Come from the fact is anatomy has been chornolly locked and manipulated.He automatically regenerates back to perfect health except for a slight limp that he had before his fateful journey.If he dies he can only come back if not under duress, i.e dies of asphyxiation must have oxygen to start healing. Additionally it takes a certain number of days or weeks to come back, from the smallest undisturbed bit always.His healing rate is fast, but it does take away from his ability to act when triggered. Also he has no control over it.He is immune to all toxins, drugs, and poisons due to his body being purified by time displacement.Lastly he is a lot smarter than people think and has willpower to match it. ---So any thoughts?I want to write some neutrals up. The world could always use a few wildcards.Also this guy has no name, so we need one.
>>47393672Now I want to make not-Taki: a powerful ninja and demon hunter, rocking the old-school and modern techniques, the pride of the Fu-Ma clan and face of Japanese intelligence, working as an international peacekeeper.
>>47396634Interesting concept. I'm not sure if we've even gone into time travel, though. It's got its own...issues.
>>47396817Limited amount of it, a one way thing. Like Atomic Cowboy.What issues? I want him to not be a standard bruiser, he has only regeneration to to that state he came in with as his soul natural ability, beyond that he has the smarts and guts of Conan. But he needs to be more than Conan. But I do think we we should have more neutrals.
So has there been any progress on the Not!Titans?
>>47396634>>47396924I like him. He's a cool wildcard that can fit in a number of scenarios. In the Africa thread it was mentioned the Atlantans kept bottled cities of different time periods that just now broke down the walls between them. Think a Phoenix without ashes with super powers. I'm not saying he's from one of heir cities but as a plot point the Atlantans might THINK he is. "Oh no, one of the prehistorics escaped. We need to get him back."Or he could journey to these hidden African cities just for adventures sake. He's seen a lot of the modern world, how about exploring past cultures through these proxie cities, seeing which culture produces the hottest women and best wine.
>>47397004Not really, but if anyone wants to do some random rolling I'm down for it.I want to try the Marvel Ultimate Powers generator though. It gives a much more diverse range of options.If anyone's game ROLL 1D100
Rolled 7 (1d100)>>47397256
>>47397088I like him to be from somesort of time displacement with the being confined to a near perfect state of health as his only legitimate superpower , he can still butt heads with the Atlantans and other powerful people.He can basically end up anywhere and anytime.That is the idea of a neutral that they can be put anywhere and spice a game up. He can be stalking PCs to hit on one of them before stealing the MacGuffin or be the latest hired villain in Hollywoodland. All you gotta do is remember his sthick and the fact he is far more intelligent than his brute mannerisms and ham acting let on.
>>47397088>>47396924"Temporal anomaly" could be a cool "class" for Capeworld. Give it some distinction along with stuff like "Kellyman" and "Super-driver".For the character himself take Conan's honor, self-reliance, and selfishness and run with it in a cape setting. He goes around doing his own thing. He picks up Super MMA because its fun. Then he tries to steal a rare Thule diamond because he wants it. He has morals though, and won't kill women or children. Give him a little of a Vandal Savage edge. He has a secret apartment filled with his trophies and has contacts with all sorts of characters due to his long history. He's slept with some of the hottest super heroines and super villianesses.Make him a fun character. Think Deadpool but replace randumb with honor and adventurousness. He's an Aryan superman but hates Nazis because they lack honor. No real man takes pride in a group. Only himself.
>>47397298And this should be the pdf in case anyone wants to call bullshit on the results I post. Things can get pretty cah-razy.
In a show of good faith during WWII, Japan reached out to its ally Germany and offered them the use of one of their heroes. This hero was not a traditional super-powered sort, but a kitsune in human form, a trickster spirit who was nonetheless devoted to the country that had grown up around what had been her traditional home. She saw it as a grand adventure, a chance to both help the people she loved and an excuse to let loose with her powers of illusion in ways she'd never been able to before.While Germany did not allow her to become part Übermensch Gesellschaft, they did not spurn Japan's gift, either. The kitsune found herself shipped off to the African front where she quickly earned the title The Desert Fox, a name history attributes to Rommel instead. She was delighted by the exotic scenery and adapted to her new position quickly, often whipping up illusory sandstorms and other mirages to hide troop movements or confuse the enemy. Though her traditional form was that of a multi-tailed Japanese fox, she began to take on the form of one of the wily, big-eared fennecs in order to fit in with her surroundings better. She could also take the form of a half-fox, half-human, but most of her time was spent in fully human form. The more she went native, the more her human guise seemed less Japanese and simply more...exotic.The Desert Fox continued to be an elusive and slippery enemy combatant up until the day she was shot. A sniper's bullet took her through the heart - a bullet covered in mystic sigils of binding and warding. One of the kami cannot truly be killed, but she was discorporated. So far from the Shinto shrine that was her home and too weak to reform, her body-less spirit took refuge in a nearby place of power, the tomb of a long forgotten desert king. She resides there still, trapped in a small, statue of jet carved into the shape of a fox.
>>47397298Our new youngster hero for the not-Titans has NORMAL HUMAN as their physical form.Roll 1D100 to determine the SOURCE of their power.
Rolled 87 (1d100)>>47397415You weren't joking, holy shit, I'm looking forward to a random team based off this.>>47397479
>>47397429This statue can later be recovered by >>47396797 and brought back to Japan, where the Desert Fox can be lectured on what happened to Japan and how times have changed.
>>47397429Powers: The Desert Fox has potent magical powers, though her purview is almost solely illusion and trickery. Along with her full and half-fox forms, she can make her human form look like just about anyone, though she invariably chooses young and beautiful guises of either gender. There is always a tell - a hint of fur or whiskers, or foxish eyes - but only the most perceptive pick up on it. She lacks any real combat skills, though she was learning to shoot in her final days. Mostly, she uses her illusions to confuse, bewilder, terrify, or lure enemies into traps.Plot Hooks: The Desert Fox's statue waits under the sand for someone to find it. With the hit of power she would receive from someone celebrating their discovery, the Desert Fox could return to life, only to find herself in a world that's completely different. A world that's passed her by. Even the Japan she loved has changed so much. She could react to this in several ways. Perhaps she'd seek revenge, try to pick up the fight where she left it off. Or maybe she would seek asylum, eager to get back to her home. Perhaps, instead, she would revel in her freedom after so many years and become a complete wildcard, a fox with a taste for adventure, willing to sell her abilities to the highest bidder.
>>47397429>>47397511So take Captain America for Imperial Japan and make him a fennec foxgirl with a love of African desserts?I can dig it. She could be pretty cute being a fish out of time. Or terrifying.>>47397488CHEMICAL EXPOSURE gave our character their powers. Think Daredevil or TMNT.ROLL 1D100 FOR WEAKNESS (yes, you roll weakness before powers)
I had an idea for some Soviet space-based supers.SPACE HUMAN ANDROPOV (name subject to change) AND THE MOON APES>OriginEarth orbital space and the Moon were among the most important theaters of the Cold War, and certainly unparalleled for sheer density of super-science. Wits often remarked that you could walk all the way around the earth without once being out of contact with a spy satellite, weapons platform, or drop-squad base. Of course, each player in the Great Game had to face the sheer hostility of the environment- the vacuum, the extremes of temperature, the radiation. Scientists struggled to refine ship and suit designs to be ever more failsafe, and supers who could naturally withstand the rigors of space were in high demand. The Soviet Union, in one attempt to circumvent these difficulties, decided to try to create a reliable method for transforming humans into a form that could survive and even thrive in this environment. The first tests were, of course, on monkeys, primarily chimpanzees. After hundreds of trials, enough successes had been obtained to move on to human testing. Vasily Andropov was the first, and only successful, human test subject; after around fifty failures and a dozen deaths, the program was placed on the back burner, leaving only Andropov and about twenty modified apes.The chimpanzees were put through a further series of procedures to enhance their intelligence to near-human levels, and Andropov and the moon apes were sent into space to serve their country.>PowersAll the successful subjects of the Space Human program share the same powers and abilities, although Andropov's are the most developed. They do not need to breathe, do not need to eat, and sleep perhaps a tenth as much as a normal human. If grievously wounded, they can enter a regenerative hibernation state. Andropov and the chimpanzees also don't get bored as easily as normal humans, and /certainly/ nowhere near as easily as normal chimpanzees. (cont.)
Rolled 39 (1d100)>>47397595
>>47397657They have an ENERGY ALLERGY. Whether its something as mundane as fire and electricity or as exotic as cosmic rays is up to the player (and GM).Roll 1D100 for effect and 1D100 for duration of the effect upon exposure.
Rolled 20 (1d100)>>47397714
>>47397732The effect is POWER NEGATION. The character loses their powers upon exposure to the energy. Roll again to see how long the negation lasts.
>>47397376So we have a whole new class to write,The Space/Time/Dimension Anomalies.He is is only around 110ish years old, he was around 30 when he was displaced into the the 1940s. He has some of the grit that Vandal Savage has but still has his humanity and doesn't want to own the world. He hates being worshiped and is generally that lone free agent. He is living legend and pain for nearly anyone to deal with, because he almost always gets his way.Whether it is stealing the costumes right off Japan's legacy heroes, attempting to robe one of Vegas casinos, or setting back quitely on his horde of memory that is the biggest score in the world. He is a man who choses adventure and discovery for his own leisure but does not commit heinous evil nor will let the world suffer when it comes down to it.He needs a name, I got two more neutrals to get down here.I think our timeless, time anomaly will be named something Proto-Indo-European, Uieros meaning Man or Warrior, but most people just call him Ulysses.
Is Wild Talents Anon around?
>>47397793>I think our timeless, time anomaly will be named something Proto-Indo-European, Uieros meaning Man or Warrior, but most people just call him Ulysses.Ohhhh I like this! He could do the Vadal Savage thing and lie about his past sometimes for the lols. Sometimes he was he as Gilgamesh. Or Achilles. Or King Arthur, but that one hasn't worked sense he's shown up in Britain recently...Has anyone seen Edspear? I thought we were going to get some drawing this thread, but he hasn't posted back sense the last.
>>47397866So he might be Enkidu is what we are going back to the beast man who was tamed by prostitutes.Definitely another twist to the story.
>>47397611They also possess formidable psychic powers- telepathy (although not mind-reading) for communication in the airless void, and powerful telekinesis for manipulating objects and as a reactionless drive. Although slightly slower in the sprint than most chemical or nuclear rockets, their ability to keep accelerating forever without need of fuel means that on long courses they can outpace all but the most sophisticated super-science vessels. Their powers are fueled by a mix of unfiltered sunlight, cosmic radiation, and the thin mystic currents that exist in the void, beyond the influence of the powers of Earth. As such, their powers will only function in vacuum, or close to it; they can operate in space stations, but not on the ground. >History and ActivitiesAndropov and the moon apes were a major part of the Soviet space program, responsible for the care and maintenance of a vast amount of orbital infrastructure. As such, he was frequently involved in superspy intrigues, and was even personally the target of several suspected assassination attempts. In combat, he became a master of using his telekinesis and knowledge of astronautic systems to disable ships and suits, using carefully-aimed spikes of force to break seals and fuel tankage. The moon apes, less powerful and mentally sophisticated, tended to just throw sharp objects very fast and use their standard-issue laser pistols. Another favored tactic was simply to pin his opponent in place with telekinesis long enough for one of the weapons platforms he was charged with maintaining and protecting to draw a bead.>Current whereabouts/fateAfter the collapse of the Soviet Union and subsequent dismantling and repurposing of most of the old orbital infrastructure, Andropov was recalled back to Earth. Instead, he vanished, taking his moon ape minions with him. Although his current whereabouts are unknown, most reports place him on the moon, where supposed sightings of him have become a common legend.(cont)
>>47397915>He might be EnkiduI like it!
Rolled 67 (1d100)>>47397759I don't mean to take over this character creation, but I've rolled about half of these so far. Is there really no one else but the anon asking for rolls and I who are interested in this?
>>47396184Its good. Especially for some creepier shit that can go on in a super setting. >>47396817I'd argue as long as its time-travelling Forward from the past or from a distant enough future to the present it should be fine. something you can argue for his "Regeneration" is that he has died in the past. IE he'll eventually travel back in time and die naturally back in his home time. I would like more morally neutral heroes.I was wanting to suggest some Jodowowsky inspired characters for mexico and whatnot. Neutral heroes existing in mexico as mediators between families bloodlines and cartels and whatnot.
>>47397975So we have a guy who basically goes back to civilization's founding or claims he is.There is no record for anything he says and attempts at compelling the truth out of him don't work. It is clear that is a temporal anomaly and gains his powers from a time displacement event, beyond that his past is a mystery.Basically he is a living legend, ironically doomed to obscurity because he was big in the last generation more than this one.
>>47398023LIMITED DURATION AFTER CONTACTThe character loses their powers after exposure to a certain energy for limited time.So there's you, me, and one other anon? I think its okay then. No ones asking it to stop.Now the fun part comes. POWER GENERATION.ROLL 1D100. This will be the most important roll. It will determine how many powers, skills, and contacts this character has. Its basically their power level, the higher the roll the more powerful they are.>>47398032Nifty logo!>Jodo characters in South AmericaI want a cosmic Metabaron-esque character. Victory at all cost. Think a cosmic samurai to go with the cosmic cowboy we already have.
>>47397971However, definitive evidence is lacking, and other reports place him as far afield as the extra-terrestrial listening stations (that is, listening stations for monitoring extra-terrestrials) on the moons of Saturn and even a single possible sighting, by long-range telescope, in the area of Pluto. >Potential uses in a gameIn a Cold-War era game, Andropov and his chimpanzee minions could be a formidable antagonist, a neutral figure, or even an ally, depending on the party's relationship with the Soviet Union and its many individual bureaus. Andropov's interests are the Soviet Union's interests; one doesn't volunteer for an uncertain and potentially lethal procedure for a country one hates. Should the party run into potentially lethal trouble, unless they've been actively attacking him he is likely to help; even across the Iron Curtain there is a brotherhood among spacers. The environment is hostile enough already.After the Cold War, he could be a convenient method of preventing the PCs from dying if they've inconveniently bent their spaceship, a mysterious encounter to be puzzled out, a strange antagonist of uncertain goals, or simply a background detail, a tall tell moonbase personnel tell each other gathered around their tiny still. Thoughts?
Rolled 90 (1d100)>>47398149
Rolled 59 (1d100)>>47398149
I've got a double conundrum - players interested in exploring the bounds of reality, and an explosion of superpowers of all kinds. I feel like I need a cosmology that can tie disparate kinds of heroes together (mutant, gadgeteer, magic), explain why they just broke out now, and how the universe actually works even if the PCs don't know it.
>>47398171>90OH BOY HERE WE GO9 Powers, 4 Talents, 4 ContactsSo this guy or gal is doing a bit more than hanging out with Trinity and Tesla.9 powers...whew.For the first roll 1D100 for POWER CLASS and then another 1D100 for POWER CATEGORY. Ultimate Powers has tons of powers.So...ROLL 2D100'>>47398154I like him! Neat twist on the Red Ghost and his super apes. I see him hanging walking around checking on international space stations and being an ambassador to HG Wells' Selenites. Or maybe going on adventures with Dancante's people who are kind of like him in that they can "walk around" space, although Andropov doesn't need an atmosphere and they have to "carry" their own with them.
Rolled 50, 6 = 56 (2d100)>>47398275
>>47397866sorry I got a little preoccupied with real life. got some paperwork to fill out for a job coming up. I've been meaning to start working on the Mountain Lion. But I've finished up the Generals pic.Now I'm just adding in extra bits and pieces. Badguys in shadows, and other stuff.Sorry it took forever anons.
>>47398291Looks amazing, defiantly worth the wait
Some lolrandom neutrals.Dr. OpithstikontioctolousA slightly confused in the head door-to-door salesman whose miracle cures and junk gadgets really work. Of course, sometimes his inventions work too well such as in the case of his atomicized tape-worm diet pills that caused a zombie plague and his dust-be-gone brooms that are a favorite illegal weapon on the black-market. Unfortunately, he can never be captured or held in prison for long as he "forgets" his own location when he spends too much time thinking alone by himself.Duck DavidsDuck Davids is a millionaire rapist superspy and mercenary for hire with a taste for caviar who has a duck head.FatinaA fat comical female genie who is bound under the control of a magic ring. She never works for one character for long and her ring is continually pawned on the black market as most users of the ring can't stand Fatina's incessant wise cracks.DENT CIRCLE!DENT CIRCLE! is the magical alter-ego of international prize-winning journalist Stanley Pincers. Whenever the time is right and NOW IS A RADICAL TIME mild mannered Stanley Princers transforms into his boyhood fantasy of pro-wrestling superstar DENT CIRCLE! who is more intent on causing chaos and wooing babes than ensuring any sort of justics.
>>47398290MATER CONVERSION: COLORATIONHis/Her first super power is the ability to change color.Feel free to go as JoJo as possible with it. The book even encourages you to us this power to do things like turning things transparent.ROLL 2D100 FOR POWER NUMBER TWO>>47398291It's all good. They look great!
>>47398275>Red Ghost and his super apesNever heard of him. Great minds think alike, I guess.
>>47398291Fucking niceThanks for making that, it looks great!
>>47398367Old FF foe. Cosmonaught who repeated the process that gave the FF their powers...except with himself and his trained apes.
Rolled 41, 99 = 140 (2d100)>>47398364
>>47398032Named after Tom Wait's song, Black Wingshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i3cEdaM6y4The raw embodiment of chaos, contradiction, and myth.The Black Wings are a device of some sort that appears on someone and can warp reality but there is a catch.The user most make the legend which gives the power. And the user must keep the myth alive and add to the mystery.In a shellnut Black Wings is a figure on the peripheral of the super world, always rising or falling. But the tales of an individual who get anything done make the Black Wings a highly sought after figure for those who serve the purpose of building its legend.The Black Wings user can gain any power they can think of, the only catch is they need to make the idea of having that power without having that power. In essence they must earn their superpowers and keep the myth of the Black Wings alive. That's my second neutral idea, after the Conan Expy.Thoughts?
>>47398464MATTER CONTROL: WEATHERThey can control the weather, like storm. Combined with their first power they can become a Prince joke.ROLL 2D100 FOR THIRD POWER
Rolled 2, 33 = 35 (2d100)>>47398508
>>47398486I like it. A lot of mystery, a lot of potential, a lot of fun. And strange maybe-cursed armors are awesome.
Asked this as last thread was dyingSo how do you all prefer to form your super teams? Joined together by happenstance to stop a global threat? Called together by a person or organization? Left vague to figure it out in flashbacks later?
>>47398549DEFENSIVE:FORCE FIELD VS MAGICThis character no-sells magic. Beings and powers from Spiritual Earth just bounce off his or her force field.Here's a scary thought. This character we're rolling is a teenager. And the power list isn't even half filled yet.ROLL FOR FORTH POWER
Rolled 10, 23 = 33 (2d100)>>47398605I think this system is kind of ridiculous.
>>47398570I'm a sucker for everyone teaming up to fight a group of bad guys, not just one big guy. Think Legion of Doom. I guess it may be because I grew up on Challenge of the Super Friends.>>47398605Don't be so pessimistic. We could have a Billy Batson on our hands with a heart of gold.>>47398622That 90 sort of locked us into the "chocked full of powers" category. And yes. TSR Marvel character gen is batshit. Personally I like it that way.
>>47398412Interesting. Also, forgot to mention:>PowersThe telekinesis can be used to block projectiles. He keeps this up constantly as a passive defence against micrometeorites, but it works against bullets too. >AppearanceThe transformation process had effects beyond 'merely' granting powers. It warped the subjects, making them creatures of space on a metaphysical as well as physical level. Andropov has been back to the Earth exactly once since his transformation, and described the experience as 'disconcerting and unpleasant'. Their appearance reflects this; thin and slightly elongated, with skin so black it almost seems to be a void rather than a physical presence, with glowing eyes and a faint sun-white ripple around objects affected by his telekinesis.When he wants to be, Andropov can be very stealthy indeed. >>47398570I prefer the 'called together by a person or organization'. The vague and nebulous super-universe inside my head tends to be heavily militarized where it isn't collapsing into anarchy, so the super-teams aren't so much "The Tomorrow Force!" or whatever as they are "Department of Homeland Security Special Division."
>>47398550I already made two, but let's go for an easy to nail concept. We want to take that Knight of yore into the future and combine with Don Quixote as the sort of character who gets himself into trouble when he really shouldn't. So how do we do Don Quixote as a morally ambiguous (in terms of the heroes looking at him), knight errant intent on fighting for justice and love but should be committed to an insane asylum?
>tfw it's 2045 and you losers are still rolling up characters
>>47398570I prefer something that's not forced like the first two. At least some of the individuals should have known each other before the formation of the team, as friends or partners in the past or, if you really want to shake things up, as enemies.I'd recommend that mostly just because I belive that the primary source of friction should be whatever the team was formed to combat, not the team itself due to grown men in tights not getting along.
>>47398622DETECTION: HYPER HEARINGThe character hears the faintest of sounds, like Superman. This also gives them a slight vulnerability to loud noises.Maybe the energy allergy is sonics? COLOR CONTROLWEATHER CONTROLFORCE FIELD VS MAGICHYPER HEARINGROLL FOR FIFTH POWER
Rolled 80, 75 = 155 (2d100)>>47398731>>47398721>I'd recommend the team members used to know each other as enemies>I'd recommend there be no conflict between team matesSorry about that not sure what direction I was trying to go with that post.
>>47398718>2045Sorry Kang. You're not going to be able to stop us from creating the next generation of heroes.Every comic universe needs a teen group. This is how we make friends for Trinity, by random creation just like we made her.Its just a stranger form of creation this time around.
>>47398486Goddamn do I love me some Tom Waits. Pic unrelated.I think I'll get to work on some of the requests from last thread. I just need a nice description of Decante. she wasn't in any of the pastebins.
>>47398721>>47398756I think a little of both is best without overdoing it. Friction between heroes is great and can lead to some wonderful dramatic moments or character development, but if you spend too much time on heroes fighting heroes it kind of calls into question whether they were heroes at all, you know? They should be able to put their differences aside for the greater good, at least more often than not.
>>47398756PHYSICAL ENHANCEMENT: SUSPENDED ANIMATIONThe hero can enter a death-life trance and temporarily suspend all life functions. They can survive indefinitely in this state and end it at will.ROLL FOR SIXTH POWER.
>>47398841>End at willMy bad. It has to be a set period of time or them being woken up by some stimulus. They're sleeping basically when they activate this power.
>>47397004I posted another old character last thread, for potential inclusion but I wasn't sure as they were from an especially old CYOA rather than something wholly original.Powers included>Shadow Boxing>Ghostform based teleportation>Regeneration/Reviving. >Getting loved ones killed on a regular basis. >Name that's an obscure reference to an Irish Poet and a death poem. Though I should really draw more Tesla.
>>47398828Nice Yellow Diamond there.
>>47398828We never really settled on a description I think. But most tend to agree that she's like Christie from Tekken with just a littleeee bit more Carnival flamboyance to her Capoiera outfit. Like arm bands with some feathers. She also has swirling, glowing designs on her skin that are characteristic of her alien parentage and change and shift depending on her mood and use of wind powers.Sense she knows BJJ as well as Capoeira maybe a black belt to go with her Capoeria pants?
All right, we got 2 out of how many neutrals that can be the forces of change, adventure, chaos, and mischief the world needs.Need to make a pastebin that is all the neutrals we come up with.I gotta head off, but this was a productive thread on /tg/ for once.Good work everybody.
>>47398828>>47398966Vento Dançante is basically Christie Monteiro from Tekken, costume and all (with a couple extra feathered armbands). Her alien heritage is exhibited as swirling, glowing body markings that glow when her aerokinesis is activated. She is also trained in capoeira (hence the corded pants) and Brazilian Jiujitsu.
>>47398968Thanks man! SHG threads tend to be pretty productive compared to others. We got a lot of WW2 still last thread. See you later.
>>47398828>>47398966>>47398992An example of what the markings may look like.
>>47398791>The Generals named so because they are "general heroes">Made with somewhat sensible character generator>Representative of about every major superhero archetype; the genius with gadgets, the superpowered alien, the psychic, the bullshit magic guy and the science experiment/accident>A solid representation of superheroes as a whole; in general>Other team>Made with crazier character generator>Awkward teenagers with awkward powers>Don't fit in with most traditional superhero criteriaOpposite of the Generals? The Outliers?>>47398731>>47398841>Sensitivity and weakness to sounds>Suspended animationMaybe certain frequencies or volumes are his weakness like you said, and his powers are negated because of an automatic, involuntary response to these sounds to shut down his superhearing? And if things get too bad he can voluntarily put his whole body into suspended animation?>>47398918>Name an obscure referenceIs it?And so what about the loved ones, he always made sure they came back the entire population of Gotham was less fortunate, however
>>47398945Nothing serious or final yet. With a "Chroma Green" >>47383666 >>47383690being mentioned as a potential greater leading force in Blue Cobalt's race I guess I decided to make a slight visual reference... Or not so slight. Tried to give Hearthrob one of the earlier Dio poses. But not sure if it comes through. I guess I should also design him.
>>47399023John Donne wrote "Death be Not Proud".Thus Donn Mortem. Though for the longest time I thought it was a Donnie Darko allusion. It would be nice to see if he can redeem himself for that in this setting as less of an immediate fuck up.
>>47399023>The OutliersI like it! The "awkward kids with awkward powers" compliments the crazy generator.>SoundYou know, what if the powers are triggered by sound? Certain sounds produce certain powers and changes in his/her (is it a girl or a boy?) mood and thoughts.But pure white noise prevents the powers for working for a few hours and gives them a headache.We can come up for a "library" of sounds once we finish rolling for powers.
>>47398966>>47398992She was born from a human woman and an alien male (the former seduced the latter). Dançante's dad comes from a race that is strongly opposed to Blue Cobalt's race for various reasons. Dançante wants to be a genuinely good person and seems to break away from her parents, as she wants to genuinely find love and protect others, and she wants to believe people like Blue Cobalt are good people. This is despite her superior Brazilian and alien genetics making her one of the most attractive women on the planet.
>>47398966>>47398992>>47399011Thanks I'll get right to work right away. Have some Fishermen for now.
>>47399127The overall archetype established from the beginning was "Brazilian Starfire."
Rolled 97, 33 = 130 (2d100)>>47398841
>>47399127>>47399141Being unsure is her theme. Shes unsure about relationships because she doesn't want to manipulate people like her mother. And with Brazillians skeptical about super people like herself sense their super-led government fucked up she's unsure about her standing in the public. She's afraid they see her as a nothing more than a girl trying to manipulate their emotions and get them on her side, maybe for political reasons. But she doesn't want to be in politics and she doesn't want to manipulate people. She just wants to help.
>>47399197Suggested Name: Tape Deck.TRAVEL: HYPER-LEAPINGLike Golden Age Superman or Kamen Rider. CHOOOO!ROLL FOR SEVENTH POWER
>>47399131He looks so friendly, I love him!
>>47399261Is Dançante self-conscious about her beauty? Starfire herself is either oblivious or knowingly plays to her own attractiveness, which is only compounded by being one of the most sexually liberated people in DC. There's a reason she was commonly known as "Slutfire" at one point.
>>47399344She is, but she feels like covering up would be condescending to others, especially when women dress like her all the time in Brazil. And she loves feeling the wind and sun on her skin as she flies around.Her beauty bothers her, but she's determined not to be ashamed of it. She competes (and wins) super heroine bikini contests after all.
>>47399381>On behalf of women everywhere, you are insulting us by not showing off your sexy body.To Dançante herself, she's aware yet wants to be comfortable about it, even though she feels almost obligated to show off. To everyone else, Dançante is a miracle of the fucking universe.
>>47399329I picture it as being one of the earlier fishermen.They went from Father, To son, to brother.To Piratesto Special agents in WWIIto Sea Adventurerto Cute Fishgirl. Starting to work on Decante. In the meantime, what kind of techniques would Sensei Serpent's Bush Viper Dojo Teach?Sweeping the Leg?Throat Punches?Vid Related? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyXhysmMNhE
>>47399317Cant' wait to see what the last three will be. They don't see that OP yet, especially if they're limited to what sound they're listening to.I'm picturing a kid that starts out pretty angry at life because they suddenly developed the ability to develop powers based on what sounds they hear. The problem is the sounds of everyday life cause rapid can chaotic power development. When the power first developed the kid nearly destroyed the East Coast.Now they've had their hearing surgically blocked, but the scientists and doctors that work for OUTLIERS through experimentation have found certain frequencies and sounds that generate certain stable power sets. By plugging in "ear buds" into their ears containing these sounds the kid can can develop certain power sets.White noise has a weird effect on TAPE DECK. Even contact with white noise vibrations causes TAPE DECK to lose his or her powers for a few minutes: but at the cost of a headache and of hearing nothing but white noise. TAPE DECK starts out biter because he or she is basically deaf and misses hearing. But the character develops and learns to make the most of the situation. TAPE DECK takes up painting, panting what they remember sounds and music "felt" like.GOOD IDEA?
Rolled 7, 58, 62, 2, 10, 13 = 152 (6d100)>>47399317Here's the rest.
>>47399970>7, 58PSIONIC DETECTIONTAPE DECK can detect nearby psychic phenomena with the right ear plug. In setting this includes dream-people, thought-forms, and mental bodies from mental earth.>62, 2Clairaudience. Tape-Deck can hear noises regardless of intervening factors such as walls.This is probably apart of his/her "default" powers and explains why they went to the extreme of surgically blocking his/her hearing. They probably did something to the auditory nerve.>10,13Environmental Awareness (ha!)From the book:The hero has increasedsensitivity to conditions in, disturbancesin, and influences on the environment.The hero automatically maintains fullknowledge of current conditions in hissurroundings. This awareness extends tosuch factors as weather, chemicals,movement, and lifeI suggest that this "ear bud" power be one TAPE DECK unlocks as their character develops. It helps them feel the world in a different way and furthers her/his interest in being a painter. It shows that all their work with the doctors and scientists paid off. The powers in the end were a struggle, but they were also worth it.When TAPE DECK grows up and "unlocks" even more "ear buds" they're going to get pretty damn powerful. If there's ever a "Cape World Beyond" TAPE DECK might even have his or her hearing restored and be a cosmic level character able to get powers from sounds and produce sounds to make more powers. Future Tape Deck is a "power explorer" trying to create the most beautiful, most beneficial super powers and finding ways to transfer them to others.Well I think we got a keeper!Starts with 7 "ear buds" (two of Tape Deck's rolled powers are natural). Any idea what sounds they have?
>>47399935>>47400249As much as I love the name Tape Deck, wouldn't Playlist be a better modern moniker?
>>47400331Maybe, but I figure that at first they name themselves Tape Deck out of self deprecation. "I"m just a big tape deck they plug shit into".
Playing Devil's Advocate, but do you guys think it'd make sense to separate SHG's and Cape World into two separate threads? It seems like the vast majority of the posts are world building, which is GREAT, but it doesn't leave much room to discuss games, systems, stories etc.
>>47400657We've already had this discussion a couple threads ago. Cape World is fine where it is, and it's been responsible for helping introduce more people to new systems.
>>47398828Chroma Green is Yellow Diamond?The odds against them but they can win
>>47400331>>47400353I see Tape Deck spending a few years in a facility for super-uncontrollable capes. Maybe in Africa? Then when they get a little control and they figure out the ear bud stuff she tries to find work with company that works to find work for people with super powers...I forget what they were were called, we talked about it in another thread. Its not the SUPER BUILDERS, that's like the Peace Corp. Call them WONDER FINDERS for now.But they couldn't find anyone to hire tape deck, so they turned her over to Palmetto Bug's Doom Patrol/Kirby Monster group that determined the problem wasn't so much her (might as call it) powers as it was her attitude and lack of desire to work. She made some friends, but still couldn't find steady employment. That's when OUTLIERS was created by DOC CHASE. Its a super hero group led by his daughter TRINITY training the next generation of super heroes no one thought could be super heroes. And Palmetto Bug sent Tape Deck to it thinking that the lazy sourpuss could do with some friends her own age.That should cover those 4 contacts part of her randomization.She's the "heavy" of the Outliers. She's lazy, opinionated, and has an attitude, but shes very sympathetic to people that have experienced loss and suffering.Think of her like a deaf female Kai from Gundam>>47400657Personally I'm against the idea of separating. Besides the "Civil War" thread awhile back where things got a little heated and emotional things have been peaceful. People have been able to do Cape World and general discussion, sometimes even tying one discussion into the other. And I'm not sure a general could survive on its own without Cape World in the first place.I just don't buy the argument that Cape World doesn't leave "room" for other things. People have been discussing things besides Cape World just fine.
>>47400730Africa to Wonder Finders to Palmetto Bug's group to Outliers.Her journey gives her a worldly, "orphaned bounced from home to home" feel. She's like a big angry stray cat looking for a place to fit in.
>>47400657Not sure. Honestly i've been in Worldbuilding threads but when its all you can do, you can burn out pretty quickly.But I do think it's be unfair when system or game discussion gets shafted here in lieu of worldbuilding.So yeah... it might be better if we do world building shit for the sake of being GM/Player Tools.Mini campaigns with villians and allies ready to be slot into any setting. Baron Bizarre conducting research in the player's home town on general purpose mystical energies.Science Tyrant teaming up with the Insect to conduct a crimespree across Canada. And being able to replace those characters with something setting appropriate as well. Be it Doctor Strange, Magneto, or The Spider proper.
>>47400730>I just don't buy the argument that Cape World doesn't leave "room" for other things. People have been discussing things besides Cape World just fine.As someone who's not particularly interested in Cape World I'm finding it pretty hard to navigate the threads to find/participate in other Supers-related discussions, is all.It's not about whether things are peaceful IMO (and I certainly don't want to start an argument), I just figure... you know, other setting collaborations have their own threads, and system generals tend to have their own threads, it just seems fitting to me that this could be two different threads as well. But I don't want to rock the boat or anything, I just thought it was worth mentioning.
>>47400851I think part of the reason is most people in this thread probably haven't played a cape game. The genre is a niche within a niche market. I think there's been a couple super hero generals before this but none of them stuck around longer than a day or two.
>>47400851If anything, ideas coming from Cape World can lead to details used in your own game, whether it be characters, powers or plot points.
>>47400820>So yeah... it might be better if we do world building shit for the sake of being GM/Player Tools. Mini campaigns with villians and allies ready to be slot into any setting. That has been the general direction in the past few threads. The new comprehensive Statesmen write ups are written for a GM in mind with ways for plot hooks and powers to be modified to suit individual tastes and worlds.>>47400889>>47400871Good points.
>>47400657Yes, I think so.>We've already had this discussion a couple threads agoAnd the "settlement" involved less Capeworld spam, but here we are...>>47400730>People have been able to do Cape World and general discussion, sometimes even tying one discussion into the other.Just look at this thread. Capeworld so heavily dominates it that other people might as well not post.>>47400851This. /shg/ is no long "Superhero General" it's become "Capeworld Infodump"
>>47401031Didn't the last thread an anon helped someone out statting his Wild Talents character?
>>47401031Half the thread has been random chargen. The other half has been super spies, random character ideas and Cape WOrld. Also, >>47401079.
>>47401031>Cape World so heavily dominates And? People still talk about things not Cape World. No one is forcing them to not talk. Why do you think it being the most talked about thing makes it "so that other people might as well not post"?>Settlement involved less Capeworld spamI thought it was "slow down world building so people can catch up and join in?">It's no longer Superhero General. It's become Cape World InfodumpDo you really think a superhero general without Cape World will survive more than one or two threads? It'll die off like all the previous superhero generals. Sense you like talking about Cape World so much do you mind if I ask you your opinion of it? Criticism is always appreciated.>>47401079Yes. In spite of what >>47401031believes people that talk about non-Cape World stuff DO get responded to and DO get help.
>>47400871>I think there's been a couple super hero generals before this but none of them stuck around longer than a day or two.Is that necessarily bad, though? Genuine question, not rhetorical.Standard board etiquette is that if a General thread is active, to post related discussions in that thread instead of starting a new one, right? So as it stands I feel like (though I haven't tried, so I could be completely wrong; again, friendly discussion here) if I were to hypothetically start a separate thread about, say, M&M as a system or cape-related campaign stories, people would post in that thread saying "keep it in /SHG/"But /SHG/ is really just /CW/. If we eliminated the pretense of it being a general, all the people interested in cape world (the majority, it seems) would still post, right? I don't think the threads would get any smaller. But then it opens room for someone to start an actual /SHG/ addressing other topics, you know?And maybe that thread wouldn't last as long, maybe they'd die after a couple of days... but I don't know if that's really a bad thing or not. Like I feel like I'd rather have a handful of temporary threads where I could more easily parse information I cared about than one monolithic general that's more tightly focused on a single topic.But again I'm just adding my thoughts to the discussion, it sounds like this has gotten pretty heated in the past (I had no idea) and I'm not trying to push anyone's buttons
>>47401096>random chargenFor capeworld>>47401123My opinion of capeworld is that it's lolrandumb silly crap and I hate you fuckers for drowning /shg/ in it.
>>47401031>And the "settlement" involved less Capeworld spam, but here we are...Oh boy this jackass again. People work hard and have fun with writing and drawing and world building and you think you can convince them to do what you want by calling their stuff spam?You might want to try politeness if you want people to take you seriously.
>>47401141There are ideas you could miss if you weren't around for those temporary threads. At least in its current state, there's a complete threadchain you can follow almost all the way back to the first /shg/. Besides, despite how healthy content creation can be, there have been numerous other topics that have cropped up in past threads, like "which system is best for XYZ" and "I need help building ABC in this system," and they get answered. The threads are not as laser-focused as people seem to believe.
>>47401152>work hard>shitting out pooryl-edited national stereotypes based on rolled powers and attributesok
A lot of stuff has been done with Cape World, interest and excitement are high and new ideas and discussion and content is being made every day. It's not going to leave, it's just not. Not anytime soon, at least.If you really want a superhero general without Cape World in it, you may just have to make one yourself.I'm sure we can come to a compromise; if you make your own superhero thread with no Cape World allowed, then next thread we can rename the OP something other than Super Hero General, something to mark a difference between the two generals.
>>47401183The VAST majority of posts have been Capeworld, and many of those other posts have been ignored or received such a small response that they might as well have been.IMO if 90% of a thread is about something, that's pretty fucking "laser focused"
>>47401141The problem is that the character, culture, and power discussion involving cape world sparks general discussions about super heroes and super stuff. Its helped people think about how culture and super powers work and how to build and organize super teams.You're thinking its "us vs them" when Cape World works with general discussion. They feed into each other.>People saying keep it in /SHG/There have been a few miscellaneous threads about Mutants and Masterminds and other super hero RPG questions outside /SHG/The fact you haven't noticed them proves what I'm saying about them dying in a flash. At least in on /SHG/ questions can stay up long enough to get attention.>I'm not trying to push anyone's buttons.Oh come off it. You know exactly what you were doing. Just be honest.
>>47401201>If you really want a superhero general without Cape World in it, you may just have to make one yourself.Damnit you fuckers I just did that like two weeks ago
>>47401183That's what the archive is for, though. If a discussion is fruitful, even if it gets pruned you can still read up on it.I guess that's the extent of my proposal. Why *not* just rename it to /CapeWorld/? If nothing more than as an experiment. It just seems like calling it /SHG/ claims a monopoly over starting new threads. But it doesn't sound like it would *hurt* Cape World, all I'm hearing is dismissal. Am I wrong?
>>47401212>The problem is that the character, culture, and power discussion involving cape world sparks general discussions about super heroes and super stuff. Its helped people think about how culture and super powers work and how to build and organize super teams.That's exactly how the entire project started. The question of "what sorts of heroes would you expect to find in a given (American) city?" After a couple superhero ideas for Hollywood, things kept on going, and inertia took over.
>>47401194>national stereotypes based on rolled powers and attributesRemember when you brought this point up the last time you threw a hissy fit and it was shown to you that Cape World countries especially Germany and Spain were more than raging stereotypes?Because I remember.And only 2 groups of characters have been rolled up. Two small groups.
>>47401212>At least in on /SHG/ questions can stay up long enough to get attention.Except they're buried in 200 other posts of "what about Doc's waifu" and "Look at my brazilian slut"And Capeworld has NOT fed any other discussion. Everything just gets fed into Capeworld, not Capeworld being applicable to anything else. >>47401246>implying one person is mocking your derivative tripeCountries based on a stereotype from today are just as bad as ones based on stereotypes from the 40s.
>>47401232For what it's worth, there's been a couple other threads on the board regarding supers that have been separate from /shg/.In fact, here's one right now: >>47395813
>>47401231And how did that turn out?
>>47401232A lot of the concern is over general superhero discussion and questions not having a solid go-to thread that will stay up for more than a couple hours.That said, I think that renaming the general into something that doesn't "claim a monopoly" is a good idea. But, in addition to the new name, we should also change the OP so that in the catalog you can see something about "general superhero discussion welcome" as well. Let people know that the big Cape World general is still open to general discussion. Because threads like these, stable longrunning superhero threads, do provide a service for people hoping to discuss or ask about general superhero things. But being more honest in the title on what this is mostly about would make people feel more welcome to make their own superhero threads or generals.
>>47401212Here's the thing, that might illuminate where I'm coming from...I don't spend a lot of time here. It's not that I'm not interested, it's that I have a busy life. So when I scroll through the catalogue in the mood for some cape/tg/ discussion, and I see a General, I click it because I'm excited to talk about the genre. But I don't have time to read everything, or to be here every day. So what I find is almost exclusively Cape World, and that's not interesting to me. I get why it would be for some people, don't get me wrong!>The fact you haven't noticed them proves what I'm saying about them dying in a flash.It just means I haven't been around when they have, and my proposal is that claiming the title of /SHG/ actively *discourages* other threads from forming.But that all brings me to this...>Oh come off it. You know exactly what you were doing. Just be honest.Bro, seriously. I'll reiterate, I'm just not around here a lot. And I know that means I don't have the right to come in here and make demands. It also means I genuinely had *no idea* this was a sensitive issue. But, I'm a dude that wants to talk about /tg/ capes and I don't feel like I get what I'm looking for here. That's why I asked, and why I'm trying to be fucking polite, because I figured I might not be alone but I didn't want to step on anyone's toes.Not everything needs to be an argument, man. We can have different opinions and still be cool with each other.
>>47401211>have been ignoredYeah. Those guys that asked for help totally didn't get it. Are you dreaming?>received such a small responseNot every post is going to need several replies. What the fuck do you want us to say to the tenth "Which system is best" post?>>47401255>Countries based on a stereotype from today are just as bad as ones based on stereotypes from the 40s.Be specific about what you think is stereotypical. What is stereotypical about Cape Germany?If its said its because they struggle with their Nazi heritage its because the real life one does as well. What do you find stereotypical?
>>47401294Great, except Capeworld doesn't interest me at all. I think it's grown to the point that it's become its own thing, and should go to its own thread.
>>47401323>What do you find stereotypical?It implies the Nazis did something wrong
>>47401323>What the fuck do you want us to say to the tenth "Which system is best" post?It's indicative that there's been no real answer or discussion. In a true general, such a discussion might take place, but it gets swarmed by Capeworld.
>>47401298Guy who first asked here, also guy you're responding to and this guy >>47401314I think that sounds ideal, at least from my perspective. There's no reason there can't be comingling and cross-pollination. More like hey, why don't we keep the perishable stuff in the fridge and move the non-perishables to the pantry?
>>47401314>actively discourages threads from forming.Proven wrong with >>47401263The threads are just very small and don't last very long.>I'm just not around here a lot guys really I didn't mean to stir up shit from four threads ago honest.Uh huh.>>47401349>no real answer or discussion. In a true general such discussion might take placeThere's no discussion to be had! It's like asking if Pathfinder or Dungeons and Dragons is better. Its beyond done.
>>47401349There's not that many super games out there, so it's easier to pick apart the differences between systems and point out the merits of each.
>>47401298What you're asking is to have a thread with general superhero discussion not called super hero general.Doesn't that seem a little weird to you?
Speaking of non-cape-world stuff, I've been working hard on another aspect of my setting listed here: >>47381938 & >>47342326And I'm wondering about one subject in general, so humor me for a moment. -A number of individuals have some sort of "external healing power": they can heal OTHER people as well as their selves. -It's comes in all sorts of delivery systems, variations, convergent mutations: vapors/gases, fluids, even stingers, etc.. -All of them can be used to regenerate and cure bacterial infections, but only the most aggressive can cure viruses.-They're not magic. They can only work with what they got; can't make something out of nothing, etc. -Many of these "natural byproducts" have been synthesized, strengthened, purified and are used in all sorts of medical practices from life saving to cosmetic.-May or may not accelerate cancer.My question is this:>Would the people who possess these powers be required to receive medical training? Drafted even?>If not: How severe would the social pressure to shoehorn these people into medical fields? >Bonus Round: With the "synthesized" products, would the two previous issues be moot?
Why can't we all just get along?
>>47401375Well I for one would like to actually see that instead of "Play MnM, it's the only thing I know. Now, let's roll to see what color Trinity's shoelaces are..."
>>47401379Not really.>Title of threadCapeworld General>One of the first lines in the postGeneral superhero discussion also welcome
>>47401383>Would the people who possess these powers be required to receive medical training? Drafted even?It depends on what's going in the world. If there's a pandemic or a war going on, I'd imagine so but if it's more or less normal then not necessarily. Though I imagine there would be a lot of peer pressure to do so.
>Going to sleep and you guys finish the whole cold war stuff in a few hours.Sigh. What do we need ideas for now?
>>47401391>Play MnM, it's the only thing I know.Isn't that every system fucking argument?
>>47401386We kind of are.I don't know if you were here for it or not, but another discussion about this was going on a couple days ago, and it was a lot worse.Compared to that thread we are practically being friendly here. We're actually attempting to come up with a solution this time!
>>47401383I'm not sure how you can get training on "shit-just-works-ium." I mean, yeah, it never hurts to get CPR training and whatnot, but you can't exactly force someone to become a registered nurse because their power heals others. Besides, if it's been synthesized already, then it should already have been verified by an organization like the FDA to determine if it's safe and whatnot.
>>47401386Because people that hate Cape World don't have anything to post besides Cape World hate.If they actually had ideas for superhero discussion they'd post them and we would talk about them but they don't.>>47401383>first questionHow powerful are these healers? Can they do things an operating room can't? Can they prolong life expectancy? Is there a bell curve for healing powers? All that will determine how "controlled" people will want them to be. If they're pocket immortal engines they're going to be controlled hard.>second questionI don't see the pressure being that great. It sounds like most of what they do is done by sensing and feeling. Would you really need to know how a body "works" to get the most out of a power like that?>third questionNot at all. Especially if the products can expire.
>>47401383>Would the people who possess these powers be required to receive medical training? Drafted even?Probably not - assuming most of their powers just work by contact or whatever, there's no point. The only time this would be needed is if their powers require medical knowledge to function. I doubt they would be drafted, would probably be easier just to pay them.>If not: How severe would the social pressure to shoehorn these people into medical fields? Would probably be fairly significant. But, again, depending on how their powers work it may be unnecessary. If I'm a Healer and all I have to do is touch you, then I can do that while out and about.>Bonus Round: With the "synthesized" products, would the two previous issues be moot?Yeah, pretty much.>>47401386Because Capeworld people cry whenever people get fed up with their spam
>>47401426Nah, there should still be plenty to do with the Cold War. That lasted for a long while, after all.
I'd like to mention I'm perfectly willing to do non capeworld art. Art is about all I do contribute to these threads. So if potential GMs or Players of Super Games want stuff I can try to do some. I'd like to reach across the aisle. Did a quick attempt at Decante anyways. Thoughts?
>>47401433I want system analysis, not system argument.
>>47401359>Uh huh.Alright, so you're a cunt. I guess that means I don't need to give a shit about your opinions then.
>>47401391>>47401433You know nothing is stopping you from doing a long a drawn out analysis comparing how these two systems that ultimately rely on the imagination, fiat, and camaraderie of its participants stack against each other.Because all this sounds like is you wanting someone to do a really boring numbers comparison for you.Come on. Tell us all about which system is best. I'm sure it'll be fascinating.
>>47401450That looks really nice!Most pics of her so far have been pics of other characters in swimsuits who supposedly kind of look like her, but don't have the "half alien" thing or tattoos going on. It's nice to have a pic with more accuracy. Thanks for drawing it!
>>47401450Bretty gud (left foot notwithstanding). Dancante's markings look neat, though it's a little hard to make out her face.
>>47398828Who are the villains? I'm guessing left to right is Science Tyrant, Hotshot,the Pale,Heartthrop, Chroma Green and the last two I have no clue
>>47401450GM here - I'll make a request in the interest of reducing the thread salt levelNormal guy in a suit with a gun and a knife, mid 50s say.30ish woman in white cat suitNeo-knockoff with a fancy scifi gunLuchador with a shark fin on his head
>>47401478You are one salty cunt mateDid someone molest you while talking about the relative merits of a game or something?
>>47401456>>47401478How about this? Let's take a cue from another thread up on the board: >>47394238.>List the advantages and disadvantages of your favorite system. The number of pros cannot exceed the number of consWhaddya know? There's already one up for M&M 3e. I'll repost it here.>Mutants & Masterminds (3e)+ Arguably one of the best-designed d20 systems out there+ Very comprehensive and streamlined while still providing lots of options to create almost whatever you want+ Serves as a great generic system, not just for supers- Notoriously easy to break over your knee- Chargen is intimidating (paralysis of choice, etc.)- Has some difficulty representing some of the most truly esoteric powers- Might be too crunchy for some users' tastes
>>47401232>>47401298>>47401354>>47401402So are there any objective, non-petty objections to this format? It seems to me like this would hurt no one and might make a few people happier.
>>47401518How about people liking to talk about Cape World and non-Capeworld stuff?Look at this guys stuff:>>47401383Non Capeworld post, got replies. The general is fine as long as the two of three guys that like to stir up shit shut up.
>>47401511Can anyone make something like that for Marvel Heroic,Wild Talents and Heroes Unlimited?
>>47401484Purple eyes was meant to be a rough sketch of Harpy, Brown eyes and green eyes are Sensei Serpent and Viperstrike respectively. I need to redraw Chroma Green, the haircut is entirely "Placeholder" >>47401485Gladly. I could use the change of pace after all. I'll do one or two before I turn in for the night.
>>47401511>HERO+Incredibly flexible+Comprehensive and coherent rules for anything you can think of, in a single book+Works for literally any setting and genre, and can even combine them flawlessly- Character creation can take a while if you're new- There's a lot to learn as a GM- 3d6 can slow down gameplay a bit
>>47401537If people don't like it, it's intrinsically not fine. And since we're talking in generalities, a single example isn't proof one way or the other.In the proposed solution, though, that guy could have posted his idea in either thread. Or both! Where's the harm in that?
>>47401539They're a group, I realize now I didn't make that clear at all. But individual portraits are also welcome.
>>47401518Maybe call it Superhero Worldbuilding General? SWG?Because a lot of the Cape World stuff is designed to be slotted into any setting and people talk about their own settings and setting related ideas.Could that work? A thread for general superhero creation from setting to characters to cosmology?The people that hate the current shg seem to be the kind that want to focus on the number crunch side of things anyway.>>47401561>Wheres the harm in that?People have to watch two threads now for world building stuff under your solution.Calling it Super Worldbuilding General means they wouldn't have though. And I'm with changing the name to that.
>>47401561Splitting up the community is the harm.
>>47401550>Incredibly flexibleFlexible how? Where is it on the fluff:crunch sliding scale?
>>47401588>>47401589That's why I'm suggesting SWG. That way all the people that have been brainstorming and creating characters, ideas, settings, and powers-not just for Cape World-can all stick together and let the ones that hate that kind of stuff go off and do what they want.
>>47401588>>47401589Maybe I'm weird, but watching two threads instead of one has never bothered me
>>47401621FUCK YOU M8MY BROWSER TAB REAL ESTATE IS PRECIOUS
>>47401591Solidly on the crunch side, but its crunch can handle literally anything (that's not going into metaphysical bullshit like "Powers related to the word If" and even then HERO could probably give it a shot.As compared to say FATE where you just write down "I can fight good, I am a time traveller, I have laser vision"
>>47401435>I'm not sure how you can get training on "shit-just-works-ium."Sorry, I guess I should talk about the restrictions/caveats I had in mind. >>47401441>How powerful are these healers? > Can they do things an operating room can't? They can't do the impossible: they can't obviously bring back the dead or something like that, but they can be incredibly strong or incredibly detrimental if used correctly/incorrectly:Healing powers aren't "conscious": they can't set bones and they can make mistakes- especially if the subject is under pressure or is stressed out. At the moment I have them reasoned to be used in "short controlled bursts": Healing Factor products are used in getting people to grow back their limbs and organs as well as cultivating ones in labs. They can't be used to heal genetic ailments. > Can they prolong life expectancy?No, actually quite the opposite: pro-longed exposure can SHORTEN your life due to running what enables your cells to replicate into the ground. Again; it's not magic.
Unrelated to capeworld, but can someone help me creating a mecha? Somehow I can´t seem to understand how I create one, even if it´s practically a vehicle. My last resort was to make pilot and mecha two separate characters with different powerlevels, just with the summon power/minion advantage and the pilot complication respectively. Thoughts?>>47401589Let´s not split up the community.Making it a worldbuilding genereal, were we discuss any superhero related setting would be better.>>47401445Ah. Okay, sorry for asumption then. Back to brainstorming.Mirror Eye - A member of the stasi, Gregory Malenkiy was one day spying on reported dissidents as he was caught by an superpowered musician who promplty beat him down and left him blinded near an police staion. The government in response promised him treatment, but instead experimented on him and gave him the ability to use any reflecting surface to see in order to make him more useful as an spy. Succeeding at that, the man now known as Mirror Eye to his comrades managed to double the number of dissidents caputered during the cold war by the russian forces.
>>47401485Super quick sketches, no coloring, but I hope I captured the essence of the characters.
>>47397812Just got back from work, whaddaya need?
>>47401643>mechaDepending on how powerful it is you might as well just make it a the character and fluff the pilot. This works if its something like Shin Getter, but not if it a more "realsy" robot.
>>47401643>can someone help me creating a mecha?Assuming M&M 3e, there's a Gadget Guide on exactly this topic.
>>47401634>>47401383OH, RIGHT, SORRY, SORRY- ONE LAST THING.People with these very specialized, very strong external "healing abilities" live long lives themselves: they're resistant -sort to speak- to their own power/ability and they don't suffer from the burning out of their own cells. They live long, drawn-out, really healthy "ageless" lives.Before they abruptly and spontaneously die of cancer. They may not age, but they're not "immortal": they stay pristine, live for 90, 100, maybe 110 years and then over night drop dead into a lump of cancer.
>>47401450She's great! Love the wing stuff and markings. Her vs Virginia Daring when?
>>47401692 her vs Virginia Daring vs Blue Cobalt
>>47401634Then it sounds like they wold benefit from at least knowing anatomy. Don't want to accidentally grow back that bone the wrong way.They actually have incredible potential as assassins and killers. The body is never "perfect". It's always repairing itself, and they can jack it.Think Magneto with flesh instead of metal. Super dangerous. They'd likely be controlled super hard.Ever seen scanners? Could your healer people do anything like:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqDmKeFc6Ns>>47401683>Before abruptly and spontaneously dying of cancer...How much do you know about Cronenberg films? Because this setting is shaping up into something like Scanners. Ever seen it?
>>47401675So, practically a construct with a powerlevel let´s say around twelve and I should only fluff the pilot?>>47401678I read that one, but I still couldn´t put my head around it. I mean, sorry, but my autistic mind didn´t get if those mecha presented there are standalone characters or part of an pilots power. I actually understood the rest of the guide.Thanks, anyway.
>>4740175012 is around the "blows up countries" level right? Then yeah. At that point the little dude in side really doesn't matter.If you can maybe try to take the pilot as a weakness for more points?
>>47401767PL12 is Justice League-tier.
>>47401767Sounds good. Where are weaknesses covered again? The powers section of rulebook?
>>47401750>I mean, sorry, but my autistic mind didn´t get if those mecha presented there are standalone characters or part of an pilots power.I suppose the most straightforward thing you can do is stat the mech and the pilot separately, if it's important enough that the pilot should be doing his own thing. You can make the mechs PL10-12, while the pilot is PL6 or something; the mech should be the one doing the heavy lifting, not the pilot.
>>47401729>Invulnerable superstrong alien immediately deemed largest threat in arena>Similarly super-strength-endowed Virginia jumps in up close, eager to compare, fighting in tandem with Decante's most intricate and inescapable capoeira holds>Virginia remarks that Blue Cobalt is easier than she thought>Decante shouting "You're going down!" as she wraps her legs around in a chokehold
>>47398828Now it's time to do the reverse. Villain team formation!
>>47396005How the story plays out depends on how the PCs handle the initial skirmish with the Imperial troops. They might find themselves drawing a line in the water with a disabled Blue Crab on their side with a con artist inside it and a mass of quickly growing troops on the other side. They might find themselves trapped inside the Blue Crab with Davy as troops surround them and demand that the PCs let a negotiator board the craft. Or they might escape with the Blue Crab leaving Princess Zorse to forced to consider other ways for reclaiming the Empire's honor.Regardless of what situation the PCs end up with the story is going to focus on negotiations and role playing. The Empire demands retribution either through Davy's hide or through surrender of the Blue Crab. Unless the PCs are being particularly anti-hero they can't give in to these demands.Her generals may be patriotic firebrands but Princess Zorse is not her mother Empress Zores. She doesn't want the incident to turn into something ugly and uncontrollable anymore than the PCs do. But honor must be satisfied.The PCs might be asked to perform a task for the Empire in exchange of handing over Davy or the Blue Crab. They might have to perform a term of service in the royal guard leading to a month of adventures in Hollow Earth. They might have to create some way to better keep outsiders away from their vents. They might have to find some island in hidden-base filled Oceania to offer to the Empire as a worthy tribute. Or they might have to retrieve a Zorse criminal that escaped to the surface, which could lead to further complications over whether or not the "criminal" deserves to go back or not.Rawling can be contacted at anytime during the incident through Statesmen communicators, and the PCs should be encouraged to do so if they don't have any experience with Hollow Earth.2. VOYAGE INTO TOMORROW Aw shit. It finally happened. Captain T. Rawling, the BLUE CRAB, has passed on.
>>47401826Yeah I think so.
>>47401901Allright. Then before I begin writing it. A PL 10 or higher construct with removable powers tied to power loss.And the power loss (activated with removable) is a PL 6 pilot with the summon power, the minion advantage. A bit of blast damage, protection and abilities in 1 - 2 range. The rest depends on how many pp are left.
>>47401749>Think Magneto with flesh instead of metal. Super dangerous. They'd likely be controlled super hard.>Ever seen scanners? Could your healer people do anything like:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqDmKeFc6Ns [Embed]Holy shit, what did I just watch.I didn't think it could get worst but then his eyes fucking popped. If I had to specifically think of the worst damage they could do it'd be surrounded around "over-exposure" since too much healing would be poison.-Someone could wake up the next day with a growth or growths that would require medical attention to remove. Think Warts.-Someone could suffer an intense temporary allergic reaction or auto-immune response.-You could cause a pregnant woman to have a mis-carriage as the healing thingy attacks the baby as a parasite. Remember that this particular powers is straight up a bodily functions and not a kinesis. They can't control other peoples flesh or even their own; they can only control the strength, exposure, concentration, dosage and so forth of whatever their healing method is (gas, injection, some kinda mucous)>...How much do you know about Cronenberg films?I plan on heavily taking inspiration from Cronenberg stuff during the "Lost Generation" of the 1930's in the setting when the 1st generation of "super babies" were being born. Born just wrong and dysfunctional.
>>47401692>>47401729Oh you guys. >>47401882I honestly still need to figure out a design for a couple of them. Hotshot, Hearthrob, and Harpy That's a lot of H Names.Sensei serpent I have an image for but I gotta put it to digital paper.But perhaps tomorrow after work. Have one last thing before bed. Junior Generals is a nice alliteration right? Both have the ˈdʒ sound, despite starting with different letters.
>>47402026The alliteration works and the art is good as always. Does the constant lewd requests ever get on your nerves? Cause you are a saint for tolerating that shit.
>>47401892Whether he died in his sleep or behind the wheel of his beloved sub, whether he died conducting an experiment on the ocean floor or at the hands of supervillain the point is that he's dead.The entire super hero community will be devastated, and not just in America. His "children" on the Coast Guardians will be particularly hurt. This is a somber, sad story that focuses on character interaction and rle playing. It is not for every PC group, and it requires the PCs to have known and work with the BLUE CRAB for a few stories for it to have the proper emotional context. If the PCs did not convince Rawling to write up a will and prepare for this day many things will have to be decided, and the PCs could be involved in the decision process along with senior members of the Statesmen and the Coast Guardians. What becomes of the Blue Crab? The Smithsonian wants it. Fisher-Girl suggests giving it to Thule where it will be kept as a national treasure in the palace. Waveracer wants someone to take on the name Blue Crab and pilot it. Madam Delphine will want it dry docked at his Rhode Island home and museum built around it.Emotions will run high during these negotiations, and it will only get worse at the funeral which will be attended by Thule and Zorse and super heroes and super villians and scientists and politicians and all sorts. A session could be done just on the PCs keeping peace at the funeral with so many emotional super beings walking around.And god help any super villian dumb enough to try and crash the funeral. Such disrespect would be answered by both heroes and villians.Jae Abe will make an appearance, not sure what to do with his life now that the Blue Crab has passed on and wanting to pay his respects to his rival. The PCs might have to prevent the Coast Guardians from kicking his ass.
After the funeral consider roleplaying a wake to end on a high note. Have characters talk about how the Blue Crab impacted their lives. The GM could even have the players play out these flash back episodes. The wake ends with everyone remembering what The Blue Crab said: It's always worth going back to the ocean no matter how bad the last dive was. Always.The scenario can be further complicated by having The Blue Crab slain by a super villian. The villian either is suicidal or had no idea what he was doing, and the PCs will need to protect him or her from very angry super people, one of which is a voodoo queen...unless they feel like taking justice into their own hands.But having the Blue Crab simply pass on because its his time can be very meaningful in a the wider scope of the campaign world. It shows that death comes to everyone in time even if they are super people and that not all capes die flashy, vibrant deaths.4. CHRISTMAS TIME IN THULEEver sense Rawling took a trip to Thule back in the fifties with the Fishermen in the first incarnation of ARGO and found that they had no holiday like Christmas he's been bringing Christmas to the Thule each year dressed as Santa Clause filling his Blue Crab and trailing aqua pods with gifts from Physical Earth for all good Thule boys and girls.The first time Fisher-Girl ever met the Blue Crab was when she was a little girl spending Christmas with her mother's side of the family, worried that Santa Clause wouldn't be able to find Thule until the Blue Crab showed up.But this year Rawling has come down with a sickness and although he's hellbent on taking some pills and making the trip his team mates on the Coast Guardians want him to get his bed rest. Which means they're going to need the PCs help subbing in for Santa Clause this year. Getting some sleep now, will finish up Blue Crab tomorrow and start on either Brown Recluse or Pitt Fighter. As always questions, comments, and criticism are appreciated
>>47402273Throwing a few questions out before I pass out.1. After the non-powered Statesmen are written up what should my next "theme" be? The Strangers like Ms Cryptic and Extrahuman? The Coast Guardians? Powerful characters like Atomic Cowboy and Alien God Killer? Mysterious characters like Fairy Finder and Pele?2. Talking about other worlds than Cape World sense the general seems to be moving toward a "Cape Creation" general. Anyone interested in revamping/expanding on some public domain characters?What would Earth Fox look like? http://pdsh.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Fox_Characters3. Mooks. Like Shocker and Rhino level bad guys. We need to brainstorm more of those. We had an interesting idea last thread about a threatre themed bad guy, very Dr. Phibes.4. Could Dacante make Virgina Daring tap out?
>>47402336Dancante is properly trained, so possibly. Being super strong doesn't stop your neck from bending the wrong direction.
>>47402466>Being super strong doesn't stop your neck from bending the wrong direction.It kind of does.Unless it's some sort of stance or power form that you temporarily activate or "wear".If a character is super strong their entire body would be super strong simply due to the fact that if they weren't they'd just rip themselves apart from using their power.I'm just taking this out of context, so excuse me/correct me if I'm wrong or taking you too literally: no bully/autism intended- I just like talking about super powers.The Neck of a person with super strength would be THICK and DURABLE.
M&M 3E - Under what type of power would poison fall? Affliction?
>>47402756Forget I asked, figured it out on my own.
If /shg/ feels like working on something other than Capeworld, help me think up a good villain based on a Matroyshka doll
>>47405210s/he can shed their skin to change their looks, maybe?
>>47398966>But most tend to agree that she's like Christie from Tekken>most tend to agree>most>not one wanker trying to force his waifu
So, here is the Mecha´s first draft. Still kinda rough and unpolishedStrength 14, Stamina -, Agility 7, Dexterity 7, Fighting 8, Intellect -, Awareness 6, Presence -Damage 10, Blast Damage 10, Affliction 5, Protection 12 (Impervious Toughness), Fligth 2, Speed 2, Growth 3 (Continuous, Permanent, Innate), Communication 4, Immunity (Fortitude)RemovableAcrobatics 4, Athletics 4, Close Combat (Mecha 8), Expertise (Mecha 2), Ranged Combat (Mecha 6)Fearless 1, Minion (Pilot PL 6)Toughness Rank 4>>47405210Maybe something vacuum/storage related?
for the sake of reawakening the thread, does anyone have any neat stories of their supers games?
>>47406649you are by far the worst part of /cwg/ softcore pornanon
What other races, if there are any, have we made up in Capeworld?
>>47407597Chromans, Dancante's race (needs name), Thule, Atlanteans
>>47407666Also Extrahuman's race which are the unicorns of the universe. No one believes they're real
>>47405210Well, here's the interesting thing. What makes a character made for Capeworld not a character made for capeworld besides saying that they are or aren't?Like if I wrote up something for you but said it was in Capeworld would your request be ruined?
>>47405285Minion is a good way to make the pilot.What's it like flavor wise? A big battlesuit or something Power Rangers like?>>47408129Its a neat bit of flavor. Everyone knows aliens exist. But Grey's? Come on. Everyone knows they're a myth.>>47402336>Public domain EarthsOh shit. Did you know that Earth-Fox has Stardust and Blue Beetle?
>>47409018It was supposed to be Power Rangers like. They had those transforming mecha/vehicles if I remember correctly.Ah, I need to include morph in the next draft. Thanks for the reminder.
>>47402058Back. And Pic Unrelated. We were talking cronenbergs when we left and I felt like dumping one of my cronenbergy alien concepts. And in regards to your spoiler anon, only slightly. I mean its not like I'm opposed to the idea. Its just that I have to be in a really specific headspace to be comfortable and confident enough to do it and do it well.I feel like don't get better at stuff you're bad at unless you do it, so I don't dismiss the requests right out the gate. But ultimately I'd rather draw stuff that actually illustrates something about the characters themselves and their personality, 'lewd' or not.For example the Midori vs Bobcat thing was requested as a sort of Catgirl catfight. It turned into a quick punch up that fleshed out and described Bobcat's tendencies as a Bugs Bunny-like trickster befitting to her sort of Mark Twain river hero inspirations, which were only vaguely defined by the statesmen character bio.
>>47409097Forgot to delete my name again. Why does that happen every monday?
>>47405210A tiny alien, or warrick davis-y dwarf guy or gal pilots a robot of a regular sized human being, who pilots a bigger giant robot of themselves. Who so on and so fourth keeps piloting bigger and bigger things forever.
>>47409101So, I'm working on The Pale Files and I was hoping for a quick sketch to tack on. I probably won't even be started with the project until tomorrow, so no big rush, I know you have a full plate.
>>47402026>>47401539Pretty legit team. I think they should be apart from the Outliers. The Outliers should be Doom Patrol for kids while the regular one is Palmetto Bug's group.What's the backstory for "Death be not Proud?"Its fun to make teams based on character generators. Generals for the stable MM generator, Outliers for the crazy TSR Marvel one. Does any other system have a character generator?
>>47405210>help me think up a good villain based on a Matroyshka dollA cross between a Duplicator and a Size Shifter. The villain can make copies of himself, but each copy is progressively smaller by half. For a twist, they grow progressively stronger by double with each size down.
>>47409178Sure thing. I think i missed those. Anything I need to know for a quick description, and origins.There was a relation to the Bizarre family right? >>47405210Just did this in like 5 minutes. Marvelous Matroyshka ManGoes From Child, To Father, To Mother!
>>47409150Someone suggested Earth-/m/ was like that to an extreme. Their universe is a mech with solar system mechs inside it with planet mechs inside it with mechs on their surface piloted by humans that have nanites inside them.>>47409018Earth-Fox was a regular Earth until Stardust showed up. The strange and vindictive godling started generating superhumans just by his presence alone. A counter-Stardust team starts to form, not to fight him, but just to manage the trouble the causes.Maybe there's several Stradust-characters acting like Greek gods on the Earth and the Heroes have to manage the fallout of their actions?The goal of the anit-Stardust team is to eventually find a way to kill/control a Stardust level being. Their greatest bet for this so far might be Blue Beetle. Unlike the other heroes he gets his power from an ancient scarab, not from Stardust radiation. And Stardust doesn't know anything about it. Whatever the scarab is, its his blindspot.Good idea for Earth Fox?
>>47409305Here's the original pitch and inspiration.The PaleThe ritual that created the Bizarre family line had a secret cost. The displacement of spiritual and mental energies created a being that is the antithesis of existence, something made of a lack of spirit. The being was too weak to live on its own, so long it wandered as a husk, until it latched to the body of a man so absorbed in the occult his spirit oozed it's power. The being was named Malator and the pair worked in symbiotic tandem to further the other's goals. The man eventually died, but Malator was now powerful enough to continue inhabiting his body. The man's spirit is too weak to resist the parasite, but his mind is strong like an oak. Unfortunately, years of subtle influence by Malator have twisted that oak, meaning that seldom will his mind ever object to the spirit.The man used to be Chase Verun, paranormal investigator, kind, compassionate, and always looking for a way to help others, but the beast that remains is The Pale, cruel, unyielding, and with a penchant for causing misery. This is not to say he hasn't found a kindred spirit, another who started as but a bug and became something more. Regardless of this man's hubris, The Pale has found the word for what he is, friend. And this "Science Tyrant" shares his hobby. Misery.So imagine a PI that's been possessed. Pale complexion, long gray matted hair, stubble. He looks like shit basically.
>>47402273Waveracer and Madam Delphine are keeping Blue Crab from sneaking out with a Christmas Party and Fisher-Girl will help escort the PCs to Thule. They'll have to bring along the Blue Crab for appearances. All Thule children know Santa comes in his "Blue Turtle" (Thule doesn't have crabs). And someone is going to have to dress up as Santa Clause....This story hook should be a comfortable, fun adventure about Christmas joy across cultures. It could be a good "breather" story between stories with more fighting and drama.But the GM can add complications if they want the story to have a bit more action.Jae could show up in his KAISER OCTO spoiling as usual for a fight with the Blue Crab. He'll try to steal one or two of the aqua pods filled with toys and goodies, thinking that they're soil samples or spare parts and wanting to goad the PCs into fighting him. He's unaware its Christmas, not having much of a social life at all, and the encounter can end in heart warming non-violence.Or the PCs can wreck his mech and give Jae some seasons beatings.IMPACTImpact Level: 4Blue Crab is a high impact character. He's an old hero loved all around Physical Earth and beyond. He's a scientist, a hero, a mentor, an inspiration, and Santa Clause. His inventions such as the DPS have changed the world impacting space and super-dimension exploration. He's more than a hero. He's a legend.4 down, 46 left. As always I'd love questions, comments, criticism, and feedback.
>>47409209The backstory for Donn Mortem is the biggest thing that might need changing for any Capeworld incarnation, mostly because it features heavy influence from DC canon, and also because the adventure never really finished, there was never any really full engaging explanation.Kid of/Aspect of/"Weird Splintery Intelligence Thing" of Death. Like Death of the Endless, Peachy Keen, Neil Gaiman Death. Not Grim Reaper Death, Nekron Death, The Black Death. Just capital D for Death.His existence is a sort of ill omen, forces playing games with mortals. And he doesn't know none of it, being sort of "homeless and amnesiac" before the story begins.Now how much of this can be reconfigured for Capeworld is up for debate.Is there a grand spirit of the existential void after life that can be manipulated or sheared from to create some hapless teen with a bad habit of getting his friends killed? Perhaps. A ghostly thoughtform ripped from mental earth and suck into physical earth? Raven except a awkward teenage boy instead of moody teenage girl? His powers as of the end of the original CYOA his character came from were, Long range "ghost punches", remote piloting a sort of "Spirit form", Teleporting using that same spirit form thing. General hand to hand stuff early on as a sort of brawler. Environmental resistence if ehe was in the right state of mind (This freezing blizzard can't kill me unless I believe it can.), Some regeneration (whether or not he could survive dying I can't remember). And other mental mysticism (that often wiped people's memories if he didn't do it right... and he never did it right.). Those are the broad strokes of what I remember.
>>47409346It sounds interesting and very different from traditional alternate Earths. And Stardust and his Stardust-like allies sound like they could cross over between worlds pretty easily and start crossovers on how to deal with them.Here's the million dollar question:How do you do Earth Charlton without referencing Watchman in any way?
Edspear, are still here?If it´s okay with you, I need a drawing of an super sentai team. Male - red and white uniform,Male - Male - blue and white uniform, Male - green and white uniform, Female - yellow and white uniform, Female - pink and white uniform.I hope I´m not demanding to much, it´s my first time requesting anything.
>>47402026I feel like the team needs a couple more members
>>47409913It needs a new name, maybe the Lieutenant Generals? We can generate more. Just have to use the M&M generator.
>>47409814Anything thematic to keep in mind?Dinosaurs? Pirates? Cars? Cops? Knights? Batteries? Jungle Animals? Samurai? Ninjas? Etc. Etc.With multi requests i might play it a little faster and looser (than usual) with the rendering. >>47409913Naturally. These are just what we have as "potential" members so far.I wouldn't mind if anons wanted to stat up a couple others or random generate the remaining two.That way its two previously established (Trinity, Viperstrike)Two salvaged/recovered (Donn, Tesla)and Two newly generated. Either Statted out by hand or randomly done. Whomever they may be.
>>47409973I feel like we could go for a construct hero of some kind.
>>47410001We have Tesla who fills the armored hero niche, maybe just a general "inhuman" character. Constructs and Armors tend to fill the same positions in combat.
>>47410001When the generals were just starting to come about, one of the ideas for a character bandied about was a powerful AI who had access to an android chassis for "field work." You could try that.In fact, I think I have a character sheet of that floating around somewhere.
>>47409984Thematic? A mixture of Samurai and Ninja would be good. Weapons aren´t that important.
>>47410046Tesla is really more of an "elemental" though. She shoots and manipulates lightning by using the armor but that's about it. Its not chock full of Iron Man gadgets... Beyond Jetboots she doesn't use.
>>47410080I guess, let me grab the random generator for the rest of it other than "Construct".
>>47409913>>47409973>>47410070>>47410046>>47410046>>47410001The AI idea could work as another character. What's she like personality wise? Is she a a cold, distant AI or is she more like NICOLE from Archie Sonic?I agree we should generate one or two more members-using M&M. The TSR Marvel one should only be used for to make weird Outliers like TAPE DECK.I'm up for some rolling if you guys are. ROLL 1D20 FOR ARCHETYPE if you're ready. Also, who is the leader? Trinity? Viper Strike?
Rolled 7 (1d20)>>47410134Trinity I assume.
>>47410153Is she really leader material though? I mean...she's Trinity.MARTIAL ARTIST.Want to re-roll? We already got on with VS.
>>47410070Turns out there were two or three different ways to build the character in M&M 3e (because a perk of the system is that there's multiple ways to achieve the same result), but here's the PL10 version of the character. Here's the main bullet points:>AI uses a hardened android chassis that gives her immense physical abilities (including tremendous grip), energy blasts, and anti-grav flight>The AI can leave her chassis when not in use, making her functionally incorporeal>AI's encyclopedic knowledge allows her to call up information immediately, put together devices quickly, make technology checks without issue, and even make any skill check she wants when required (Skill Suite power)Check that shit out.
Rolled 20 (1d20)>>47410134I feel like Trinityvis either a self appointed or reluctant leader with Viper helping her out
>>47410134>>47410153I thought Trinity was just an occasional ally or member?Weren't we going for her being a part of both teams, the Generals and these guys, like how Barnstormer is on both the Statesmen and the Blockbusters? If that's the case, it would be much more difficult to do both if she is the leader, rather than just another member, of one of the groups.>>47410177>Is she really leader material though? I mean...she's Trinity.That's also a good point. Personally I think we should wait until we have this team more fleshed out before we start assigning positions.And yes, I'd loke to re-roll. The point of the Outliers are we calling it that? is that it's awkward and weird, having easily comparable members or powers on the team might ruin that.
>>47410191This could work as Team Leader, or Team Mom. Either or.
>>47410177Maybe we could take this one? It´s a weather controller, I think - >>47410202
>>47410134>>47410191I think this AI would be the kind yet impartial type. She's not entirely soulless, but some weird things are still slightly beyond her grasp. Even so, she has vast stores of information available to her in the blink of an eye, so it's not like she can't look these things up.
>>47410177I say we go with a couple more rolls. If he/she's too similar then we switch
>>47392590I've actually read that comic book.
>>47410134With trinity tesla and v.s. we have three girls on the team already. So maybe ai can be a dude?
>>47410224This team isn't the Outliers. We aren't using the ridiculous fenerator yet.>>47410250AI does not have a set gender.
Rolled 19 (1d20)>>47410177Sure
>>47410262The AI's voice would sound either masculine or feminine, and the android chassis would have features to match.
>>47410262I think we did. Wasn't the end result Tapedeck ?
>>47410191Nifty! I wonder if she's something like an artificial thought-form assuming you're using the cosmology rules for the setting? Depending on the GM she can be just an AI or something weirder. That's the strength of Cape World. Its written to help the GM, not imprison them to a cannon.>>47410202>>47410236>>47410267Looks like we're going for Weather Controller.And a guy weather controller. That's not too common.And it'll be cool to see him fight Tape Deck in the inevitable Young Generals vs Outliers meet-fight-team up.ROLL FOR ABILITIES
>>47410286Maybe the AI is trans. It's creator wanted a robo waifu but the voice is masculine and it doesn't care about gender
Rolled 9 (1d20)>>47410307Time for the storm to come.
>>47410231In most media, the AI is the backbone that keeps everyone on task, not necessarily the leader. She'd function best as team mom.>>47410307Maybe it's just a REALLY powerful AI.
>>47410262Data comes to mind.But an aI that explores what it means to be human by living as a teenager? what a terrible/terrific idea. Its like the breakfast club meets 2001 just waiting to happen.
>>47410202Trinity is the spunky heart of the group. She's the one that keeps them together. VS is the field leader. She tells the team what to do and who to hit in the middle of a fight because she's good with things like that.>>47410224>>47410262>>47410288Yeah. The Outliers are teenage Doom Patrol. "The next generation of heroes no one said would be heroes". Inevitably they fight with an spawn love triangles with members of the young generals as teenagers are ought to do.>>47410286>>47410235>>47410231I'm getting a "Red Tornado in Young Justice" vibe. She's the mature, rational one of the group telling the other kids to behave and think before they act.
>>47410341The AI has to be mature almost out of necessity. You can't have an immensely powerful dataform be a slacker teenager.
>>47410286Voices can sound ambiguous, and why would the chassis exhibit sexual dimorphism to indicate a gender? Or just different voices at different times, it likes the variety.>>47410288Yes, but right now we're rolling these 2 characters for the Lieutenant Generals/ Junior Generals.>>47410322Super-NEETs seem like an inevitability.>>47410335Who knows?>>47410341>Hello, I am normal meat child transferred to school from Canada.
>>47410375But who can love a monster like Viper?
>>47410333PSIONIC: The character controls weather through the force of their will.ROLL FOR ADVANTAGES>>47410335"She HAS to be a thought-form! There's no way something just metal and circuitry and do all this. NO WAY!"And she just smirks.>>47410376>You can't have an immensely powerful dataform be a slacker teenagerWhat about Tay?
>>47410408>Voices can sound ambiguous, and why would the chassis exhibit sexual dimorphism to indicate a gender? Or just different voices at different times, it likes the variety.Because this is comic books we're talking about.
Rolled 18 (1d20)>>47410434
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>>47410437She changes up her gender and personality from time to time just to troll the meat people who put WAY too much importance on stuff like gender in her opinion.She finds it cute. And she has a little bit of a trickster side to her.One time she did the I AM SKY NET BOW BEFORE ME MEAT BAGS thing as a Halloween prank and scared the shit out of Tesla. VS punched a hole in her chassis face and hurt her feelings by yelling at her after the prank. Trinity had to manage the Fallout, talking to a crying AI, a pissed off martial artist clone, and a scarred Tesla all at the same time.Good story idea? I think its very teenager.
>>47410509>Trinity had to manage the Fallout, talking to a crying AI, a pissed off martial artist clone, and a scarred Tesla all at the same time.Good thing there's three Trinities.Also idea seems fun
>>47410376I was thinking Johnny Five or Chappie but fair enough.Theres a pic I could post but im on ky phone at the moment.
>>47410509>crying AI, a pissed off martial artist clone, and a scarred TeslaTake a step back for a second and realize what we have all created. This is a rational summation of a situation in this universe.
>>47410467>>47410422>>47410482Maybe this guy can. Sense he controls weather through his mind he's probably very intense and very disciplined. They'd find common ground.FACILITATOR AND SOVEREIGNSo Storm, basically. He uses his power to help his people who regard him as a king or god for it. Maybe's he's from that Easter Europe section with the super-feudal blood lines?Think of him as a good guy, but prideful and arrogant. Like a little Doctor Doom. FOOLS! YOU DARE STRIKE MY CONSORT VIPER STRIKE! MY LIGHTNING WILL SINGE YOU TO THE BONE!ROLL FOR SKILLS
>>47410509>I'll bet you don't even know what a Cleveland Steamer is, do you?>You do know I have access to Urban Dictionary, right?>...
>>47410573>This is a rational summation of a situation in this universe.Do you even read comics bro? This is light weight compared to stuff Marvel and DC do.
Rolled 12, 4 = 16 (2d20)>>47410576Or Africa if we want the parallel to be really fucking obvious. I like your idea more personally.
Rolled 12 (1d20)>>47410576
I propose calling our new AI the "Artificial Reactive Intelligence Automaton," version 1.ARIA-1 or ARIA for short.
>>47410605His family consists of people that can control parts of weather, but he's the first to control virtually all weather. A lot of pressure is put on him to lead his country to greatness which explains his intense attitude and arrogance. He's worried neighboring countries might try to invade or blockade his out of jealousy and fear for his powers, so he's afraid that by simply existing he might be harming his country even if he's tasked with leading it to greatness.SKILLS: SNEAK. YOU HAVE A SHADY PASTMan, this really is Storm's character sheet down to the street urchin pick pocket thing.His shady past is that he's not blood related. His family had him gene engineered in a test tube to combine his abilities.ROLL 5D20 FOR OFFENSIVE POWERS
>>47410600Yep. Personally I'm surprised we haven't gone deeper yet.
Rolled 2, 19, 12, 11, 10 = 54 (5d20)>>47410704
Rolled 12, 7, 20, 18, 5 = 62 (5d20)>>47410704So Viper and him aren't real people. I can't wait for them to bind over that
>>47410600>>47410734Occasionally, imagine what your grandparents would think if you repeated that exact sentence to them.>>47410750>It becomes a competition of who can be edgier (think X23)>They eventually develop a relationship>Instead of the patent perky superhero changing them and making them feel like more than a tool, they find meaning on their ownSpeaking of which, this guy sounds like a former "villain".
>>47410745>>47410750They'd probably fight over it at first like teenagers. "You don't understand! I'm a clone of a jerk who wanted me to be his weapon!""Oh yeah? Well my family made me to lead a country! You can't possibly know the burden of responsibility on my shoulders!""Well at least your creators actually love you! No one loves me!" And then he kisses her >>47410745>>47410750DAZZLING STRIKEWHIRLWINDSTORMY WEATHERDOWNDRAFT (taken from second post)LIGHTNING BOLTNot bad at all.ROLL 1D20 FOR DEFENSIVE POWER 1
Rolled 12 (1d20)>>47410827Weird clone ships.
>>47410819>former villainHis country might not be on the best of relationships with its neighbors. The Young Generals might first meet him in the middle of a duel with a neighboring prince or princess over a land dispute or something and try to stop the fight before anyone gets hurt.
>>47410704>The Storm clone is an actual cloneBEAUTIFUL POTTERY
>>47410819>>47410827>Trinity's jealous of their relationship>gets a brilliant idea>begs dad to make the perfect boyfriend
>>47410857Weather-proof...Which might mean his origin is even more sinister. What if one of his relatives intends to use him as a weapon to take down other members of his family and his weather immunity is to protect him from their powers?We can go full Prisoner of Zenda with his story.ROLL 1D20 FOR DEFENSIVE POWER II
Rolled 12 (1d20)>>47410937
>>47410923Poor girl. She hasn't had a normal relationship sense the vampire disaster.
>>47410954Yeah, that sucked.
>>47410954And he was using her for chance to have a threeway.Poor Trinity
>>47410871"Fools! What are you doing interfering in a duel of honor!""If you want to fight someone so bad FIGHT ME!"And then VS decks him with her shield. It was love at first fight.>>47410951VIGOROUSBecause the scrappy little guy would be.Last power. ROLL 1D20 FOR MOVEMENT POWERAnyone got a name for this guy?
>>47410987One of the villains that were rolled was a teenage vampire. We name him Heartthrob. Trinity has a crush on his secret identity but he just wants to bang Trinity because she duplicate herself
Rolled 10 (1d20)>>47411000
Shit I guess I posted my guy a little too early last thread. Oh well. My guy was a German American CIA Spy. He was this smooth talking ladies man who could read minds and could also control the emotion of fear. He goes on an undercover mission to spy on the Reds but ends up getting captured. They experiment on him, trying to create the perfect spy. He gains the ability to turn completely invisible but one of the side effects of the experiment is that the only thing that can be seen when he's not invisible is his skeleton. So now he's this skeleton in a business suit with a German accent who's smooth with the ladies. CIA code-named him "Citizen Bones"The campaign he was in was alright, Red menace and aliens. The only real cool thing that happened in the campaign was at the end the GM decided that the CIA would open up and Extraterrestrial division and that Citizen Bones would run it.
>>47411024His movement power is SWIMMING...well that's odd and unexpected. I guess he does something with water molecules to let him move fast through it?Alright. One more Guy and we'll have a teamROLL 1D20 FOR ARCHETYPEAnd I'm voting for Prince Zard. First name Bri.
Rolled 9 (1d20)>>47411000Zephyr maybe? I'm leaning towards real name Nikita Bouřka. Bouřka means Storm in Czech, Nikita is the second most popular name in Eastern Europe, so it's generic.>>47411081
Rolled 11 (1d20)>>47411081Come on tech hero
>>47411073The invisible skin and CIA background reminds me of Mr. Bones from the DEO.So he's an MIB guy? What's his policy on aliens? Does he keep it under wraps?
>>47411100>>47411105Nikita sounds good. VS could call him Nicky to tease him And call him Nicky tenderly in bed 9 is Mystic and 11 is Powerhouse. Which one would you guys want?
>>47411166Mystic sounds cooler than Powerhouse to me.
Rolled 9 (1d20)>>47411166Mystic would be fun.
>>47410968Who is the Carlos of the team?
>>47411203Trinity and/or Tesla
>>47411203Tesla or Trinity, or the AI, maybe the new one we generate. Everyone else doesn't Strike me as a joker.
>>47411183>>47411201>>47411203The AI is the Carlos. But only subtly.Here comes a mystic!ROLL 1D20 FOR ABILITIES
>>47411113Just looked up Mr Bones. That's basically what he was visually. Yeah he basically runs a 1970s XCOM. The ones that invaded were basically a more terrifying version of Grey aliens and mind fucked a lot of people, trying to blend in with us. His policy on aliens is basically as long as it's not killing or violating humans were good. As far as keeping it under wraps he tries to be discreet, but when a giant mother-ship crash lands in the streets people are gonna notice. Nothing you can really do about that.
Rolled 14 (1d20)>>47411256
Thread is in Auto don't forget to call the next thread something like CCG for Cape Creation General or people will cry again.Basically nothing else changes besides the name. All ideas are welcomed be it ideas for worlds, powers, characters, public domain heroes, stuff for Cape World, anything. Embrace the Power of Creation!The OP should be the DC comics hand to best capture the feel of creation.>>47411275Sounds like it was a pretty cool game. Super X-Com basically?
>>47411341MYSTIC MASTER: Trained long and hard to master the mystic arts.So far I'm seeing someone like Green Lantern Beyond. A little bald Buddhist kid, thinks his team mates need to grow up and take things as chill as he does. But we'll see how it goes.
>>47411349I fucking wish, that was just the ending epilogue. The GM wasn't the greatest. I don't even remember what the hell the campaign was even about. I just remember really liking the character and what happened to him after it was all over.
>>47411397>>47411341Oh yeah, ROLL 1D20 FOR ADVANTAGES
Rolled 8 (1d20)>>47411397
>>47411469ENCHANTER: Can create mystical artifactsSounds like VS just got a shield upgrade...ROLL 1D20 FOR SKILLS
Rolled 16 (1d20)>>47411514
>>47411576PRESTIDIGITATION: SKILLED IN THE ART OF DECEPTIONInstead of rejecting the illusions of Maya like most Buddhists his sect believes in the divinity of the illusory? They worship the powers of stories, fiction, and falsehood?Probably gets in the other young generals with constant koans.ROLL 5D20 FOR SPELLBOOK
Rolled 16, 20, 5, 9, 9 = 59 (5d20)>>47411669
Rolled 13 (1d20)>>47411684Rerolling the 9
>>47410437>>47410408Honestly I was sort of imagining a sort of Short Circuit answer.The robot kid switches from male to female not because of Idenity issues, but rather because its awkward and learned how to communicate from TV.Going from Valley Girl, to Schwarzenegger and then quickly to Curly Joe or a poor Barnstormer impression because that's how people talk on TV, and if the others saw it mutter sinisterly and robotically like Hal 9000 they wouldn't like him too much.
>>47411201Isn't Donn the Mystic? of the group?
>>47411684>>47411700MYSTIC BINDINGPHANTASMS (of course)ENERVATIONGHOST HANDS (of course)MADDENING BLAST (of course)Nice spell set for an illusionist. I see him causing friction at first with the two clones."You guys aren't real humans? That's great! You're unbound by the limits of "real" humanity! Your very existence exposes the philosophical flaws of a "single" humanity! Why, it reminds me of something Lama Kaiden once told me about..."And then VS punches him in the face.ROLL 1D20 FOR OTHER POWER
>>47411758There are many kinds of flavors of mystic. This is a little pretentious illusionist Buddhist kid. Donn is more a darkness and shadows guy.
Rolled 1 (1d20)>>47411764
>>47411724I approve of this. The AI changes up its identity and role to mach the situation. Why not go for an optimized socialization sub routine?
>>47411788APPARITION (he can turn ghost-like)Need 2 more rolls because I fucked up. It's three other powers, not just one.
>>47411814That gets annoying quickly, like many Robin Williams characters. I think ARIA should be a reliable voice to lean on.
Rolled 14, 16, 19 = 49 (3d20)>>47411839Spooky
Rolled 3, 14 = 17 (2d20)>>47411839He's a phantom
>>47411839Apparition stuff definitely crosses over with Donn. Same with the ghost hands.
>>47411858>>47411869PROTECTIVE AURA AND TELEPORATIONSo he's a fake inverse-Buddhist ghost boy that hangs out with fake humans, an artificial human, a three-in-one human, Donn and Tesla.I think this can work as a group.>>47411814>>47411855ARIA only activates the optimized socialization sub-routine when she's feeling cheeky. Otherwise she's the stable one.Maya-Buddhist kid WANTS to be the stable one but people tend to find him pretentious and exhausting. He's a smart kid that knows a lot about philosophy but not much about the social graces having been raised in a monastery.
>>47411855I can see where you're coming from.Though I'd argue its less "Lolrandom" pop culture stuff... and more, "I'm copying TV because I don't know how to interact with people" it can be something it grows out of as it matures. Does it really have to be a robot girl?
>>47411965Lots of AI characters are portrayed as feminine. We've already established that ARIA can alter her voice however she sees fit. For convenience's sake, the team tends to immediately refer to ARIA as "she."
>>47409744Donn is just Donn. Negative thought-forms attract to him like a magnet and sometimes he can use this to his advantage. Sometimes they use HIM to THEIR advantage.He's not sure where he's from and he's not in any hurry to find out because he's sure he's not going to like the answer.How's this for a secret origin: He's a living wish. A powerful psychic long ago wished for a son long ago and started crafting him out of the dream-scape of Mental Earth but died before he could finish. Donn was unfinished. He was a being of pure, positive thought but attracted negative thought-forms to him like a magnet. He recently manifested in Detroit in the same incident that blasted open a secret Dundo laboratory where Tesla stole her suit.He's like a metaphor for growing up. You start out a pure child and then you get exposed to all this darkness and stuff as you mature. But it doesn't have to get into your heart and corrupt you unless you want it to. Deep down Donn is still a pure, perfect wish even if he has trouble believing it.Could this work? Is it too twee?
>>47412149So Trinity and the Buddhist are the only 'real' children. That's vaguely depressing
>>47412149Look at that team comp, two clones, a triple person, a robot, a monk, a psychic amalgamation of emo, and a single normal person in a suit.>>47412182And Tesla. One could argue that Donn is, but it would be really technical in how correct it is.
>>47412182if it helps I think Tesla would be the least emotionally mature.I mean it kind of goes with her backstory, nothing but a long series of Very Bad Decisions and avoiding adulthood like its the plague.God she could even be the oldest just to hammer the point home. >>47412215Who's the other clone?
>>47412285Nikita. He needs a name, I don't like Zephyr on second thought.
>>47412182>>47412215>>47412285VS and Nicky are the clone kids. Let's see...Nicky is the fake prince.VS is the fake daughter.Maya-Buddhist is fake philosopher.Donn is fake edge.ARIA is fake genius computer (there's a lot of practical things she wouldn't admit to not knowing about. But her lack of knowledge is not a bug, its a feature. It allows her to experience learning. Learning must involve ignorance)Tesla is the fake hero, not getting that its not a game until Dundo starts sending super assassins after her and her friends to get the suit back at all costs.Trinity is the girl that's always true to herself. Strangely, she's in many ways the most mature and well adjusted. Its probably why she's the leader.Does this sound like a good team?
>>47411758>>47411787>>47412215>>47412385Hold on guys, is Donn really going to be in this group?Donn is the main character of a Teen Titans quest, not someone we came up with in these threads as a Cape World character. He already has a background and story in the DC, Teen Titans universe.
>>47412373Maya Buddhist calls himself Makara "for he is a vessel for the lessons of the gods".Nicky is Prince Blyskawica (Prince Lightning). Shorten to Prince Blitz.
>>47412394He's Ed's character, and he seemed to like the idea of him having an Earth-Cape World version.If Ed doesn't want Donn used we can drop him.
>archiving general threads on sup/tg/
>>47412394I guess so. No one's had real objections to it. >>47412385>>47412285>Tesla is the oldest and least mature>Trinity is the youngest and the maturest >potteryintensifies.gif
>>47412385>ARIA is fake genius computer (there's a lot of practical things she wouldn't admit to not knowing about. But her lack of knowledge is not a bug, its a feature. It allows her to experience learning. Learning must involve ignorance)She has almost all book knowledge in the world available to her, and given the opportunity, she can immediately apply them to practical effect. For example, she can pull up rafts of information on Wing Chun and promptly apply it to buff up her close combat skill.
>>47412471>>47412485I don't think he's Ed's, I thought Ed just drew art for that quest.What you would be doing by adding a character from a completely different universe and lore is changing a lot about them and overwriting most of their story, and that's why I, personally, am opposed to it.But making him into a Cape World character is absolutely possible, and my objection to it is entirely personal preference and not much of a valid argument. I don't know, maybe we can do something really cool with him, the rest of you seem pretty intent on it. I don't really want to make a big argument out of it, so if you guys want to keep going with him then I'll just drop it.
>>47412604I don't feel strongly one way or the other. I'm just kinda goin' with the flow.
>>47412604I see him as kind of redundant with the monk here, so unless somebody has a good argument to keep him instead of just using the story for another original character, I'd drop him.
>>47412394Sort of. Its not like he's been doing anything or been used since Humble's thing. And I missed the guy. I always felt he deserved a win. I always wanted to see if he could slip onto the /co/ oc's one day but never could really get into that. On the other hand he might need a bunch of "rewriting" to fit in with a new universe. Even a new name. >>47412440Shortens to Mac. Much to his chagrin.
>>47412522She has infinite book knowledge, but little "practical knowledge" which explains how things like her Halloween prank happened.>>47412604>>47412645>>47412657Well if he's Ed's then there's no problem. If he isn't than he's distinct enough to be his own character if you just change the name.If he isn't Ed's then just call him Joe. Problem solved.>>47412657I don't see him as redundant given the differences in character. Joe (Donn) is John Bender. Makara is Brian Johnson.
>>47412471Woah woah woah.He is by no means my character.It would be super disrespectful of me to lay any sort of claim on him.He was a character an entire thread shaped into being and over the course of an adventure developed along those lines.It really was more "hey here's an old super hero game thing, I remember. I wonder if the super hero general guys would like to hear about it"Which sort of turned into a "Lets see if we can revive him." that followed up on some old pencil OC. what >>47412604 says is true.Again i sort of wanna see him continue and get a bit of a soft reboot.So I wouldn't be against altering things myself. even down to the name if need be. but as the guy who contributed the Mortem part of his name I dunno how i'd feel.
>>47412700>>47412714>>47412721Joe is the Earth-Cape World version of Donn. Like how Jay Garrick is the Flash of Earth-2 and Barry the flash of Earth-1 but they're different characters with different backgrounds.
>>47412700>>47412721>Wanting more of DonnI was just voicing my concerns, I don't mean to take him away from you guys. If you really want to use this as an opportunity to continue with him, please keep my concerns over erasing his story in mind, but don't drop everything or rename or completely re-do him because of my hangups.
THE YOUNG GENERALSTrinityTeslaAriaMakaraPrince BlitzViper StrikeJoe (Joe Donnte?)It starts with Aria, Trinity, Viper Strike, and Makara. The Young Generals form when the Generals recruit Viper Strike away from Science Tyrant and Doc Chase creates Aria. Joe and Tesla are recruited after the Detroit incident that incarnates Joe on the Physical Earth and lets Tesla steal her armor. Prince Blitz is recruited last when they interrupt his duel in Eastern Europe.
New thread when?
>>47412860I"m working on one right now.Anyone willing to try and roll up some Outliers? I figure they could be friendly rivals to the Young Generals, sort of how the Hellions were rivals to the New Mutants. So far TAPE DECK is the only member.
>>47412792Yeah I stand against renaming him wholesale into Mort Donnald or anything like that. His story is integral to his character, and the titans were important in his story. We can either use him wholesale with a few key edits, or use him as a bit of a jumping off point as a new character.I can sort of see him playing a bit of a "Terra" role. Someone who waltzes in with the best of intentions, fucks shit up royal, and waltzes out before things get worse.>>47412890Maybe he could fit on the Outliers.
>>47412890I'm always down for rolling
>>47412890Sure, roll 1d100.
>>47412890Sure.So this isn't the teenage team?
>>47412942It is, the Outliers are the teenage team with really weird powers.
Rolled 29 (1d100)>>47412942There's two teenage teamsJunior Generals which are basically the Young Avengers/Teen Titans While the Outliers are more like the X-Men/Doom Patrol/the Outsiders
>>47412942They are, they're just a weirder, edgier teenage team.>>47412928It could be a plot point. Does Joe go to the Young Generals or does he go to the Outliers?
>>47412930NEW THREAD THIS WAY!
>>47410177Just sort of a hindsight thing but Viperstrike's a weapon master. Sensei Serpent was the actual martial artist archetype
>>47412928>Be Batman>Be the night>Be orphaned by the Gotham city's outrageous perpetual crime spree>Still see the good in the city parents saw>Spend entire life training and studying and inventing to make Gotham a better place>Spend decades working as both a vigilante and a billionaire to make Gotham a better place>Go on many stupefying, horrifying, life-threatening, Earth shattering adventures across multiple canons and universes to make Gotham a better place>Raise an orphan as if he were my own son, training him in the ways of making Gotham a better place>Robin eventually leaves the nest>Trains and studies and invents and works as a vigilante and goes on many stupefying, horrifying, life-threatening, Earth shattering adventures to make Jump City a better place>Couldn't be prouder>Forms his own team to make Jump City a better place>Somehow became prouder>Brings his friends to visit one day>One of them kills the entire population of Gotham city.>Immediately flies off to a tropical vacation
>>47413146>>One of them kills the entire population of Gotham city.>>Immediately flies off to a tropical vacationI'm sorry what?
>>47413308There's not really a lot to elaborate on, that is exactly what happened. I mean, it was an accident, but it happened.I've already spoiled enough, not that that had a lot of ramifications, but if you want to know more the thing is here http://pastebin.com/cEFrBd9dIt's pretty good. That little bit of plot and the lack of development on it is the only complaint I have on the whole series other than "not enough Jinx"