From street-level to cosmic and everything in between, this is the thread to discuss all things superheroic, at least as tabletop games go. Mutants & Masterminds, Marvel Heroic, Heroes Unlimited, Dark Champions, Villains and Vigilantes, and any other system out there, this is the thread for you if you want to feel superhuman.Cape World pastebins:>The Generalshttp://pastebin.com/4ZEeWk7F>Statesmenhttp://pastebin.com/qCgQBDgr>Hollywoodhttp://pastebin.com/2Bp49SEa>Las Vegashttp://pastebin.com/ysD4JsRR>Japanhttp://pastebin.com/wz33giaC>Germanyhttp://pastebin.com/pVweBM4Flast thread:>>47309996Topic Starter: What are some situations that have come up in your game where the players couldn't use combat to overcome?
>>47325510How did this asshole manage to even get into his baby armor? Where did he GET all those babies?
>>47325510Villain whose ability was to reflect any and all attempts to harm him into the nearest baby.
>>47325510How would you stat this armor?
>>47325510That is the smartest thing I have ever seen for getting out of a hostage situation intact, how have I not seen this before?
So we have 2 russian heroes, and one neutral-evilish russian.
>>47325537I think you just write plot armor for it
>>47325589So you have 3 neutral-evils?
>>47325527Mark Millar Ultimates. That's how.This is the Baron Bizarre writeup so far. Life is killing me so my write ups might take some time to get done.Please tell me if I'm just wasting my time with thisHERE BEGINS THE WRITEUP OF BARON BIZARREORIGINThe Bizarre Bloodline:It was on the eve of 1900 that Madam Blavatsky and her most loyal theosophists carried out a ritual that they believed would create the next evolutionary step for mankind. They believed that they were, out of a pregnant woman with London’s ley line channeled through her body mind and soul, creating mankind’s physical, spiritual, and mental superior. They believed they were creating the Homo Dynamis described in the Emerald Tablets of Hermes Trismegistus. What they actual created however proved to be far more bizarre than that.The theosophists had some knowledge of the secret cosmology of the Earth. They knew about the three Earths, about the Atlanteans and their walls, and about the Rainbow Serpent which they identified as the Hindu Vishnu. But their knowledge was colored by misinterpretation and the desire to align their knowledge with their philosophical views. They erroneously believed in a great evolutionary chain with humanity on the bottom, Homo Dynamis in the middle, and the fabled Atlanteans at the top as being the highest form of body, mind, and spirit.
>>47325589According to last thread yes
>>47325561Because it gets countered in the next panel with a noose around the neck.
>>47325527>>47325534>>47325537>>47325561For the record, that guy gets killed when the hero sneaks a noose around his neck and hangs him.
>>47325609They believed that Atlanteans were the progenitors of theosophical “root races”. Atlanteans were perfect beings who beget the imperfect Homo Dynamis and the outright wretched Homo Sapiens, and their actions in the shadows throughout history were all a part of a great benevolent conspiracy with the end goal of getting humanity to evolve gradual back into Homo Dyanmis and finally Atlanteans. Atlanteans were the “ascended masters” of theosophy, their “immortal manus”. And it was only by becoming more like them through self-denial, self-mastery, and self-transcendence could humanity redeem itself. The theosophists saw their New Years ritual as the first step on a great journey of human redemption. When the babe was cut from her mother’s womb and breathed her first unassisted breathe of air lightning struck Parliament, the Thames overflowed its bounds, Spring Heeled Jack was finally caught by the law, and leagues away in Deli, India, Aleister Crowley, the self proclaimed world’s wickedest man and father of Thelema, enacted a ritual to steal the child away.
>>47325601Wat? I dont think Icebreaker is anywhere near evil.the WMD is all for communism and anti american.
>>47325628Crowley called in favors owed to him by the faeries of the British Isles. Quicker than the theosophists could see they switched out the babe for the traditional changeling. In the blink of an eye the babe was in Crowley’s arms in India and the theosophists were left with monstrous inhuman looking changeling that shrieked at them with a tooth filled maw. They believed they had failed in their attempt, that instead of producing a savior they had produced a mooncalf. They never knew how successful they were, and from that moment on until the death of Madam Blavatsky in 1977 no more attempts were made to birth a Homo Dynamis. Meanwhile the child was raised by Crowley as his own daughter. And that's all I have right now. Good so far?
I have an idea for that magic villain we made, it's tied a bit to Baron Bizarre, but it also serves a purpose in giving him a possible future rival (Malator). It's hard not to bring cosmology into this, so apologies in advance. Besides, the Starter has nothing to do with cosmology yet, so this provides a simple enough jumping in point should GMs go that way.The PaleThe ritual that created the Bizarre family line had a secret cost. The displacement of spiritual and mental energies created a being that is the antithesis of existence, something made of a lack of spirit. The being was too weak to live on its own, so long it wandered as a husk, until it latched to the body of a man so absorbed in the occult his spirit oozed it's power. The being was named Malator and the pair worked in symbiotic tandem to further the other's goals. The man eventually died, but Malator was now powerful enough to continue inhabiting his body. The man's spirit is too weak to resist the parasite, but his mind is strong like an oak. Unfortunately, years of subtle influence by Malator have twisted that oak, meaning that seldom will his mind ever object to the spirit.The man used to be Chase Verun, paranormal investigator, kind, compassionate, and always looking for a way to help others, but the beast that remains is The Pale, cruel, unyielding, and with a penchant for causing misery. This is not to say he hasn't found a kindred spirit, another who started as but a bug and became something more. Regardless of this man's hubris, The Pale has found the word for what he is, friend. And this "Science Tyrant" shares his hobby. Misery.
>>47326031Sounds good! Its a nice combination of ideas from the last thread.Chase sounds interesting on his own. He could be cool showing up in a retro game with characters like Blue Crab and the Fisherman(men),He sounds like he has three bodies, so he's odd in that regard like the Barron and Atlanteans. Maybe his raw occult power generated them?
im up to join a m&m group (2ed i guess) and i think about what kind of character i should play. my DM said the Power Level is 10 (ive no idea what this exaclty is...) and i thought about a demon-summoning anti-hero. is this possible? what abilitys will i need for this? (i dont have the rulebook so i try to note anything i will need for a faster creation befor the game starts)
>>473261743rd edition Mutans and Masterminds has a Summoner class. You can summon some kind of shadow monster or an "imaginary friend". Not sure if that's in 2nd edition, though.I don't have a lot of experience with this system, so I'm sorry if this wasn't helpful.
>>47326174>Demon summoning anti-heroGo full mystic warrior mage like Illyana Rasputin and take light summoning options for little demon servitors. Get a "stepping disc" teleporation power and be the team's bus.As you level spend it on buying better summons instead of better spells. Read the Ars Goetia for demon ideas.
>>47326174Power Level 10 is your average superhero (think Spider-Man in terms of strength and so forth). There is a power that's just straight up "Summon" which allows you to summon from a pool of creatures as described in one of the chapters.
>>47326031Good job anon
Reading through the statesmen and I have ideas about punching them up. Would like some feedbackWyoming's Black Hole Man: Simple farmer who didn't discover his power until late in life because its to project a pacification field and his neighbors are naturally passive. Runs a peaceful, open-air correctional facility for the most violent and disturbed super criminals. Using his powers he's able to keep them passive and non-violent. He's reading up on psychology to better help his inmates. He sees it like a small community and his inmates see him more as a mayor and less like a warden. Think of it as the anti-thesis of Arkham, a campaign could be about the characters there trying to go straight and seeing how they do outside his field. Black Hole Man is hardly ever called out for action, and like Dr. Glacier he's usually off in Wyoming helping his people and doing his own thing even though he's a member of the Statesmen. He's called away only when the situation is dire enough to warrant risking his inmates acting up and reverting.A GM could use Black Hole Man as a way to save players while costing them for losing. He shows up and pacifies the bad guy beating them up, but while he was gone trouble happened back in Wyoming when one of the inmates reverted and the PCs have to pay back the save by tracking down the escapee for him.Buckeye: He knows he can't live up to the legacy of Cleveland Steel, so he doesn't try. This slovenly, crude, anti-social cape sees his position as a job he does for obligation rather than passion. Life gave him powers and being a super hero is the flip side of that. He's a gruff anti-hero, and the name chosen by the higher ups is to soften his bad boy image. He doesn't kill, but when he fights he breaks things-and bones. If he has a positive trait is that his lack of care means power and intimidation doesn't effect him. He's actually pretty brave, and if he could reign in his attitude he actually could be as inspiring as Cleveland Steel.
>>47326560I like you're idea for Blackhole
>>47326174In 3e I know there's the summoner archetype. I'm not sure about 2e sorry anon
>>47326155Sure, but nowhere near as much as Baron. Instead of bodies, they'd be more like shadows cast by his mastery of ritual magic. Originally he was a lot like a brighter american version Constantine, and it was inspired by pic.
>>47326560Buckeye's role in the game would be as a hard to get along with ally. The PCs have to beat up the bad guys with his help-while making sure he doesn't break too many things. He's also a character that can be encouraged into coming into his own as a hero-or fired from the Statesmen depending on whether the party wants to help him or get him suspended.Turnpike: New Jersey's charismatic speedster with panache that hides a drug addiction as the source of his powers. His super-metabolism amplifies the effects of drugs on his system. The designer drug Spring speeds reaction times in normal human. In him it gives him super speed. However, Turnpike isn't the only one with a super metabolism. He doesn't know it yet but he's actually the first test subject for a Brazilian based pharmaceutical company. They figured out how to trigger super-metabolisms in certain people and had their agents transform Turnpike into one when he underwent heart surgery at a young age. The company wants to create a group of supers in their back pocket, dependent and addicted to their drugs for their powers. All they have to do is keep drugs like Sprint legal and continue placing super-metabolism supers in the general population. There's nothing illegal about deriving ones power from a legal drug after all. And if the super develops an addiction, then its just like an alcohol addiction. No fault on the brewers.If Turnpike finds out he's not going to be happy about being a guinea pig. But then he'll have to deal with the company's own superhumans which like him have super-metabolisms but derive different powers from different drugs.Game wise Turnpike is a problem that gets deeper and more complicated as the PCs investigate. It stars with a Statesman hiding an addiction and developing into a company hiding a conspiracy. Turnpike will want to help every step of the way, but the question is should the PCs let him?
>>47326742I dig him, I dig him a lot. Good job anon!>>47326705Thanks anon, I hope my Buckeye and Turnpike too bad as well! For a lot of these guys I only had a few lines of description to work off of.I like the idea of placing cool cape stuff in states. I think peaceful Wyoming having a happy town-prison of Jokers that for the first time in their lives don't hear the voices in their heads could be rather touching. It shows that in a cape world crazy bad guys can actually get help. They don't have to got to an Arkham which looks like a place from Silent Hill.
>>47326825Didn't we have something similar in the last thread with that speedster except he wa Brazilian
>>47326155>>47326406>>47326884When I get back to my computer next week I'll work on some retro-writefaggotry along with the intro to the PDF. I wasn't here when Blue Crab and The Fishermen came about, who are they?
>>47326896That one was a badguy ex politician kept on a drug feed by Science Tyant. Turnpike is a guinea pig in a corporate conspiracy to enact social programming and will be furious when he learns the truth. They both involve speedsters and drugs but handle them in different ways to different ends.Are they too similar? I could try something else with Turnpike if I have to.
>>47326825maybe as some sort of good end, maybe turnpike can discover he can also get powers from other things then drugs?like eat a ton of sugar can he gets super reflexes for a bit.could work as a epilogue thing or a last minute save from the big bad so he can keep being a hero after rehab.>>47326896sort of. the speedster pays the company for the drug to boost his powers and they make him do jobs for them so he can keep getting drugs.
>>47326959The Blue Crab is Maryland's state hero: a crab-shaped submersible with pincer claws piloted by an old seadog with a love for the ocean named Truman T. Rawling.The Fishermen is a family of vigilante heroes/fishermen from Maine, a legacy family. The current Fisherman representative is Fisher-Girl, a half-human half-Thule girl with bright pink skin and hydrokinesis.Both Fisher-Girl and the Blue Crab are two of the "aquatic" heroes of the Statesmen, alongside Waveracer of Florida (the face of the aquatic team) and Madame Delphine of Louisiana.
>>47327020Whos Texas's hero?
>>47326959So Fisher-Girl and Blue Crab in the Statsmen pastebin.Basically The Fisherman was a 1920's hero that was actually a single costume swapped out between a family that used their fisherman knowledge to protect the Main coastline form smugglers. Blue Crab is an old salt and one of the original Statesmen. He uses a big mech-sub called the Blue Crab. He commonly teams up with fellow aquatic Statesmen Waverider, Fisher-Girl, and Madam Delphine as the team dad. He's the one that has to keep them on track when the other three start getting too involved in their teenage love triangle.>>47326986I like that idea. It reminds me a little of the Heiress from the Blockbusters. They both give up what was ruining their lives and suffer a decrease in power, but they still keep enough power to be a hero.He won't be as fast as he was on Spring but after downing some pure cane sodas he can still move pretty damn fast.
>>47325510>Topic Starter: What are some situations that have come up in your game where the players couldn't use combat to overcome?Once they had to fight Atlantean Murder-Pirhana Doomsday.The objective was NOT to engage him in combat but to slow him and ensure that he couldn't get too far into the city while they came up with more effective countermeasures.
>>47327038>>47327038Captain Justice, a frail man in a defensive power-suit, complete with non-lethal grenades and other such armaments.
>>47325510>Topic Starter: What are some situations that have come up in your game where the players couldn't use combat to overcome?What you don't often see addressed in super campaigns is dealing with natural disasters. There's plenty of opportunity there for heroes to strut their stuff and rescue innocents at the same time. The paragon can grab a firetruck before it falls off a bridge, the speedster can whisk a family out from a burning building, the psychic can block falling debris, and whatnot.How would you pull off handling a natural disaster?
>>47327044That sounds pretty cool
NEW HAMPSHIRE'S USHABTI:The mysterious clay protector of Dartmouth provides a past the GM can fill in however he wants, but one mustn't forget that he/she/it has storytelling potential simply as a quiet, studious guardian. Ushabti might start following around the PCs if they prove to be strange or novel-not to threaten them, but simply to learn about them by watching. PCs might interpret this behavior as stalking, leading to a talk (or even fight depending on the kind of PCs) with Usabti. But the PCs might like having a Statesman show them such attention. Some might try to show off for Usabti. Some might even befriend it and want to "teach it how to be human". Let the PCs have fun with it. But Usabti can also be used to mess with the players as mysterious watcher in the wings.Ushabti makes a great fit for a background character in The Librarians cosmic library satisfying its knowledge on his infinite books. Amid all the scholars and scientists working in the library just point out a living clay statues and see if that piques the players' interests.POSSIBLE ORIGINS FOR USHABTI:1. Explorer from the Spirit Earth. The clay body is a kind of "Physical Earth astronaut suit". It allows a spiritual being to exist easily in Earth without having to contend with the wall. This could have critical ramifications for any campaign dealing heavily with the cosmology of Cape World as a potent "lost technology". Beyond this there's the question of who the spirit is inside the clay and whether it would be good or not for it to regain its memories...
>>47327108so..you're saying i cant out punch a tornado?
>>47327108>How would you pull off handling a natural disaster?depends on the disaster and what your powers are interestingly enough there are some Major Superpowers in Heroes Unlimited that deal with just this subject there one called Tectonic Mastery or something similar that lets you know when an earthquake is going to happen and reduce its strength you can also reduce the size of a volcano you basic Weather/Wind Master lets you affect storms (in a limited area) and tornadoesSpace Master lets you summon meteorites to attack with, but nothing to stop them
>>47327020>>47327039Dunno if I can fit those in, but a younger Harpy, Doc Chase, and Baron Bizarre are viable to appear at one point or another. For the most part, Chase was a detective not a cape, he knew enough rituals and enchantment to have some tricks up his sleeve, but he was no Baron. What he did have was a sharp mind, a keen eye, and some quick fingers. Standard gear was a fedora and coat, his enchanted revolver, a pack of cigs, bullets kept in a pouch of white ash, and his sigil gloves.
>>473274132.Afterlife ProtectorThe Ushabti in real life Ancient Egypt was a funerary figurine designed to take the place of the deceased servants or subjects. It was meant to be a servant in the afterlife. Ushabti thus "encoded' with the faint memories and personalities of an ancient Egyptian servant. A campaign could be made out of helping Ushabti deal with returning memories of this life. If there is an Egyptian afterlife Ushabti may feel drawn to find some way to go there and check up on the ruler he was made to protect, taking the party along with him for an adventure in the Eternal Nile.3. The first RobotUshabti was simply an attempt to create artificial life by ancient alchemists. When this fact becomes known Ushabti might become famous among the robots of Germany and the Neo-Humanists of Italy as the "first" robot in history. Such a title might attract jealousy from a group of old German robots considered the "first" before Ushabti showed up and the PCs might have to help keep the peace. There may even be anti-robot terrorists gunning for the "first robot" that the party will have to protect Ushabti from.
>>47325561Because a real life sharpshooter would just headshot the guy and some babies would get squished and that would be the end of it.
book maker a shita shittripfag piece a fug
>>47327478>and some babies would get squishedThat is what a hero in this situation would try to avoid. That's the point of the armor.
I'm looking at Colorado's MOUNTAIN LION Statesmen and she looks interesting. Ruthless but effective cape that hides a dark past as an eco-terrorist. Doesn't have any powers but is highly skilled in guerrilla warfare tactics from her eco terrorist days.My question is what's eco-terrorism like in Cape World? I'm half tempted to write up evil Planeteers, but would that be too mean spirited?Would they be anti-ET immigrants? Would they see people like Blue Cobalt as invasive species? Would they like or dislike splicing themselves into animal people?And my last question is should I kit out Mountain Lion with a few gadgets to up her flavor or should being low tech be a key part of her charm?
I really want to make a reinhardt from overwatch esque character for capeworld.
>>47327577Yes we know we all know he gets hanged and the gentle swing of his body hanging from the noose lull the babies to sleep. This is not new information.But that one flaw doesn't make this armor set COMPLETELY useless. Being killed from a distance by a sniper is not an option without injuring babies, same for most strategies.
>>47327612What if he put some babies on his head and neck? Would that defeat the noose strategy?
>>47327598Whose he and what does he do?
>>47327637Just one baby on your neck will prevent hanging, which is good because multiple ones on multiple sides of your neck would make turning your head and possibly breathing difficult.So it would help, assuming your opponent is not particularly strong, dexterous or skilled with a knife. If that is the case then if they get close enough to tie a noose around the neck they would also be close enough to simply stab the neck on whichever side is unguarded by a baby.
>>47327649Reinhardt's a power armor dude with a hammer and a hard light shield
>>47327683Make baby pauldrons to protect your neck.
>>47326959I'm looking forward to it
>>47328011It's going to be a collection of "Case Files" so it will be told retroactively in first person. Probably snippets on other characters, a bit of background on some events later on, and a slow descent from the plucky young PI to The Pale. Ideally, these can be interspersed in the Starter to provide tragedy to The Pale and confront the heroes on if it is mercy to end Chase's "life" so his spirit may be free, or if he should be the vessel for Malator to prevent further problems from the un-spirit.
>>47328200Sounds cool so far! The Retro years of Cape World have only been hinted at so it'll be cool to see them developed.On Mountain Lion I'm going to write up an optional gadget load out in case anyone wants to beef her up during a game. Anyone got a good name for her old eco-terrorist outfit? I'm thinking of having them feature in some of her story hooks. I'm thinking they could be called EVERGREEN. Good name?
>>47328409EVERGREEN sounds good to me
So has anyone ever tried running a solo game before? How did that go and how do you plan it out?
>>47328771No, but that could be an interesting way to run a game. One of the concerns expressed in a previous thread is how to get a group of pc super heroes to team up and work together organically without them starting as a team in the first place. Having a solo game (if your referring to 1 pc and 1 gm) could circumvent this problem as the story could solely focus on the single pc.
>>47328868There was a DC comic that crossed over Golden Age Batman with Doc Savage and The Spirit. First Wave I think it was called, and they all were busy off in their own corners of the world before they teamed up.If you can I suggest trying what the comic did. Have each hero individually discover something about the big evil threat. They all investigate, and they all bump into each other.
>>47328868Yeah I've only played MnM once when a an anon on here ran it
>>47328771You'd probably want to keep the villains lower powered, a lot of RPGs are built with teams in mind, or alternately make the PC very powerful. It really depend on wether you want the game to be Daredevil tier or green Lantern tier
>>47329314So it only has one design flaw
>>47327108Not a game example, but Avatar: The Last Airbender had them deal with a volcano using bending.>use earthbending to build a trench between the volcano and the city>use airbending to push back and quickly cool/harden the overflowing lavaI'd guess there's similar ways you could deal with that stuff in a game setting.
>>47329399Two, really--what's he gonna do once those kids start messing their diapers?
>>47329588Smell like shit, another deterrent. It's fullproof
>>47325732Well considering we're a wiki search away from knowing it's not too bad. Convince here is always nice.
>>47326884As the guy who came up with both Buckeye and Turnpike, I'm fine with both revisions/expansions.
>>47325732That all looks pretty good so far, Anon. I like that even though you are going back to incorporating the cosmology, which I understand is necessary with Baron's character, you are exploring the more free-to-explore human side of it. Makes for more story rather than just rehashing deep lore.
>>47327649Don't forgeth the massive jet engine on his back which allows him to charge.He also has a few on his hammer to help build momentum.
Just did some sketches of Chips. I'm starting to picture some Astroboy "replacement kid" thing for her. assuming she isn't Julian's real daughter/kid.
>>47330617Looks adorable.Not to bother but do you think you'll ever finished up this?
>>47330659I'm working on it anon. Don't worry. Its been a bit of an off day.
>>47330741Cool, it's looking great I didn't mean to bitch or anything.
>>47325510Hostage situation.The supervillains had a lot of civilians hostage so first we had to let our sneaky breeki character take out and sabotage them from the inside before we could get to smacking the shit out of those people.
Work on "The Pale Files" has begun in draft form. Current appearances slated:HarpyBaron BizarreFishermanHeart ThrobDoc ChasePeleAs well as many other possible foes and allies!The direction I'm taking will follow the ages of comics, Golden to Dark. Born on November 11, 1900 in Providence RI, Chase Verun began work as an investigator at age 18. Fresh-faced and optimistic, he followed his family tradition to confront the creatures of the night and drag them into the light. Armed with only a family book and his wits, Chase embarks on a life of adventure, intrigue, and tragedy. I will occasionally ask for ideas for characters to include, locales, creatures, and general events. If I have File 1 done before I get home, I will post a picture of the draft.
>>47331488Sounds like it'll be a fun read
>>47331488Since nothing else seems to be happening, any things to add to the list or comments in general?
I guess to fill the void, how/why did your superhero/supervillain become a hero/villain?
DM has a mutants and Masterminds Superhero in the world who is, I shit you not, PL Infinite. you can't harm him, you can't keep up. he can destroy multiverses by punching them real hard. He can mind control galaxys of sentient beings and move the stars with his mind.He is basically Omnipotent and Omniscient. Can read minds, super senses of all kind.But he is using him as a "Get out of jail free in case the players fuck up" card.Every day he reads the mind of all sentient life and banishes any creature who has acted evil into a dimension for rehabilitation.How are you supposed to be a hero when this guy is around? How are you supposed to be inspiring to anyone when this guy's shadow is larger than the sun itself?
>>47332458That sounds incredibly retarded. I mean I get having a get out of jail card but that seems ridiculous
>>47332458Ask the GM what the fuck he intends you to do, and what "evil" is. The first one may cause him to rectify this error, the second gives you a way to poke holes in his hero a bit. Alternatively, tell him that this idea is fucking stupid, optional if you decide to smack him upside the head for being a dumbass.
>>47332458Clearly all villains have 30 points spent on Immunity(Bullshit)
>>47332490Well, From what I understand, this guy isn't always around, and is gone of saving multi-universe crises and shit.He's there just to give the inspiring speech and save us if we get in over our heads. He basically isn't even on earth except for every once in a while. But still, we are supposed to deal with street crime while we learn. we are level 7.
>>47332399Parents are dead
>>47332399He was really bad at being a hero, like comically bad through rolls. So he decided to go evil because it's the only thing he's good at. It is yet to be seen if this helps my luck.
>>47332526Wait why would essentially God give a shit about a couple street level heroes?
>>47332526>Every day he reads the mind of all sentient life and banishes any creature who has acted evil into a dimension for rehabilitation.Uh, I fail to see how ANYONE can be a villain. Unless this is not true, in which case this'll be fine, if a bit too excessive.
>>47332552I think its that its anyone people suspect of being a villain. Like he is our super villain radar if we capture someone or suspect someone. We still have to capture them and prove it or something. its still dumb.
>>47332537because we are in the same hero organization. Just joined the justice league thing.
>>47332399my superhero character got superpowers took the phase "with great power comes great responsibility" and tried to become a doctor with his healing abilities. ending up becoming a superhero after getting into a fight with a super villain named dragon, a punk who got lucky and got the ability to turn in to a dragon and no I'm not creative with names.
>>47333745>my superhero character got superpowers and took the phase "with great power comes great responsibility" seriously and tried to become a doctor with his healing abilitiesI always to double check what I'm writing
>>47329314too bad he'd start spasming after getting hung and hit the babies in the head
How would you guys design a dark age setting? What are the essentials besides anti heroes and a generally darker tone?
>>47334824Everyone smart/important is anti-establishment.All cops are crooked.There's no one to protect you but yourself.
>>47334824pouches, radically huge guns, tiny feet and overdeveloped muscles?but no, seriously I think you got the main stuff right there.
>>47334931>Feet not conveniently obscured
I'm not sure where to ask this, so I'm asking this here.Does anyone have the cap where a superhero or someone goes to prison, and they're taken on a tour of the grounds by their old high school crush and it's basically imprisoning the villains there by giving them what they want? Like a mindless brute who's kept in a cycle of killing and being killed, or an insane supervillain in a perpetual piss shower while fembots clean his body?
>>47335080/co/ would be a better place to ask
>>47331488Sounds good to me. Sense its going to be about going from the golden to the dark age maybe you'd want to see about doing something with the Black Minister? Also I'm curious what you're going to do with Pele.>>47332399>The voidWell we are trying to develop these threads at a slower rate. And I think one of our writers may have committed sudoku last thread.>>47329640>>47329657>>47329704Thanks guys. It's good to know my contributions aren't unwanted.>>47332458Sounds like the GM wants to eat his cake and have it to. When using omnipotents you have to keep them real busy doing something else not to interfere with Earth or just have them be God-King like Miracleman. It sounds like the GM is trying too hard to do both at the same time.
Going to see if I can make that "comprehensive character write-up form" we talked about in earlier threads work.As usual any feedback good or bad is incredibly appreciated.COLORADO: MOUNTAIN LIONORIGINWhen Abby Grant was in her young 20's she got caught up in the environmentalist movement hard. It made sense to her that mankind was exploiting the planet to death and had to be stopped like any supervillian threatening the planet. What were corporate CEOs but super villains in suits instead of capes? Her views became even more extreme when she joined up with an environmentalist group named EVERGREEN, not then considered a terrorist group. Her views grew more extreme while trapped inside the EVERGREEN echo chamber. She believed that Earth was on a timer heading for total destruction. Every day super-people polluted the environment and not just in the old ways of smog and pollution but in new, stranger ways. Things from so called "other Earths" started appearing. Corporations dumped super-chemicals into the waters turning animals into deadly monsters. Artificial life like the German robots stated to spread and consume their environment like an invasive species.Eventually Abby and Evergreen decided the best course of action would be to take Hoover Dam hostage during a day when the upper-levels of superheros were busy with a cosmic threat and force the powers that be to agree to their demands.Abby and her friends, some spliced into animal-people to show "solidarity with all living things" and others wearing Spanish matador suits they bought in pieces form pawn shops and were barely able to control were busted and busted hard by a superhero-team up of BLACK MIINISTER II, Colorado's own BOULDER, and young heroes FISHER-GIRL and WAVERACER who ambushed Evergreen through the water and made it a game to see who could apprehend the most members (Waveracer won).
>>47335875There was no damage and no loss of life. Rather than making Evergreen an organization to be feared and taken seriously their stunt at Hoover Dam made them the laughing stock of the media from the newsroom to late night comedy shows. Abby Grant was pilloried, her haggard mugshot plastered on the news, her parents interviewed and asked "where they went wrong", her embarrassing relationship with an Evergreen member that spliced himself into a catman became a punchline.And Abby Grant went to prison. Not a happy pseudo-prison like Wyoming's Black Hole but a real prison. While prisons in Cape World have gone through progressive reforms in order to curtail super villain recidivism prison is still not a nice place filled with people that are not nice.And Abby had to toughen up during her 20 year sentence (she had one hell of a lawyer). She was the non-powered ecogirl in a prison that housed super-villianesses. Her cellmate was BLOOD RED MARY, a hemokinetic criminal and grand daughter of the deceased MAD MARY whose identity and name the hero HAUNTER's poltergeist took.It was either toughen up or be toughened up.Abby trained and kept herself in top conditioning. She read books from the prison library on self-defense, super power combat, and above all super heroing. Rather than hate the superheros that busted her and her friends Abby decided to emulate them. They were well respected and loved. They were winners. She was a loser who gave up control of her life to eco-freaks. She wanted to be a winner and she was determined that when her sentence was up she would be.When her 20 years were up Abby set about making herself into a super-heroine. She combined the guerrilla warfare tactics she learned in Evergreen with the intimidation tactics she learned in prison. She called her new secret identity MOUNTAIN LION after her favorite animal in the whole world.
>>47336309 MOUNTAIN LION proved to be a brutal but highly effective vigilante. She hunted down and apprehended criminals that law enforcement and other heroes couldn't catch and often scored big juicy bounties on a couple of targets. She was merciless to her prey living up to her name. Being in prison did not teach Abby to be gentle with criminals. Rather it taught her that criminals need to be woken up to the real world like she was, sometimes brutally so. She did a crime and was punished. Now its her preys turn.Recently Mountain Lion was voted into the Statesmen, the public choosing the anti-hero "super bounty hunter" over the older and more traditional BOULDER. This has caused Mountain Lion considerable worry. She's used to and likes working alone. The last time she relied on others they indoctrinated her into an eco-terrorism cell. And worse yet. What if the high profile of being on the STATESMEN causes "super snoops" like THE TRUTH to investigate her more closely. If the public knew Abby Grant and Mountain Lion were the same her career might well be over. The police would be very likely to reject help from an ex-terrorist and her adoring public would be even more likely to turn on her.
>>47336462POWERSMountain Lion has no powers but gets by on ruthlessness, cunning, and guerrilla tactics. The GM may choose to keep her as a low-ability character that uses her skills along with conventional weaponry to hunt down and apprehend super weapons, or the GM can choose to outfit Abby with an array of gadgets to make her a less stealthy but overall more powerful combatant.The low-ability Mountain Lion uses simple body armor and traps such as snares and trip wires. She does reconnaissance and scouting before engaging with a foe and spends time surronding the area with traps. She fight using assault rifles and batons along with tear gas and flash bang canisters. While not afraid to maim an opponent Abby is not a killer and won't shoot at an opponent without some degree of super-damage reduction.The low-ability Abby attempts to use intimidation and fear to bait opponents into her traps. Rarely will she directly engage with an opponent, especially if the opponent has considerable super powers.The high-ability Mountain Lion keeps the low-ability's fondness for traps but give Abby several gadgets to make her more of an aggressive combatant. This version is less likely to lure opponents into traps and more likely to force them to run or retreat in the direction of traps. This version gives Abby a customized Matador suit, a light-weight full body fabric filled with energy channeling circuity that renders Abby immune to small-arms fire and enhances her speed and strength. She wears body armor over her torso to give herself enhanced protection and wears a mask in the form of a snarling Mountain Lion head that gives her a HUD with active links to news, police, and super-hero information sources as well as "cat eye" lenses that can see throughout the electromagnetic spectrum. She fights using "paw" gauntlets that slide down her arms when not in use so she can make use of her more dexterous hands.
>>47336724These gauntlets allow Abby to punch with enhanced strength and can project vibrating "claws" that can shred through metal. These claws can also be fired with a trailing wire behind each spike. These launching claws can serve a variety of functions from harpooning through the shoulder of a tough opponent to embedding in the side of a building and pulling Abby up it when they retract. Abby most commonly uses them to loop around and lasso opponents. The soles of her costume can at will decrease their friction to allow Abby to gracefully slide around the battlefield and her opponent wile pulled by her claws. A common action for her is to break into a slide, and while sliding ensnare an opponent with her claw cables. As she moves around her ensnared opponent she has her claws pull herself toward them while readying a knock out blow with her free gauntlet.-Whew- Five more blurbs to write including her personality and plot hooks. But is this looking good so far? Could you see this being in a pdf that people would use?
>>47336854Sounds great so far. Making a pastebin or pdf that could be put in the OP post would work great
>>47336854PERSONALITYAbby likes working alone and due to her experience with prison gangs and ecoterroist cells is naturally distrustful of groups. She's likely to view PCs as either rivals "poaching her prey" or people she has no business dealing with. Abby is a solemn, grim woman that says few words. If she's talking its because she has business to talk about. The Mountain Lion doesn't socialize.She's also something of a perfectionist. She does not tolerate fuck-ups. She is not a mentor figure. She believes that she got good on her own and other capes need to as well.Although she is an ex-con she had little sympathy for criminals. Criminals get punished just as she was punished. This also means she has no problem getting along with law enforcement and super heroes, provided she has a reason to interact with them in the first placeRELATIONSHIPSAbby is a loner who has severed all ties to he friends in Evergreen (although see plot hooks for if the GM decides to have them contact her again...). As much as she doesn't want to be on the Statesmen she feels that she owes it to the voters to at least put in appearances at their meetings. Mountain Lion is strangely one of the Statesmen with the best attendance record and also the most prickly and anti-social. She'll show up to a meeting but don't expect her to do anything but stand there. Being around so many people actually makes her a little uncomfortable, and if she's prickly around regular people she's doubly so around her teammates out of fear they might try to make friends with her or something. This attitude has the potential to backfire and the GM can goad the PCs into fighting out just WHAT makes Mountain Lion such a sourpuss.If she gets along with anyone on the Statesmen its going to be someone like BUCKEYE who shares her preference for no-nonsense and brutal super-heroics or GHOST O' JARONE who treats super heroing like a job like Mountain Lion does.
>>47337011Thanks! Have some super-cheesecake.A pastebin could work well. This is just character 1 of 50 after all, and given how much work it takes to churn these out I don't see many more people besides me doing these extensive write ups.Still I'd appreciate any feedback and criticism.In the future should I quietly update the pastebin with new write ups or should I post them in thread first for review and discussion? I don't want to monopolize the thread but at the same time I want people to respond to these write ups and give the thread a pulse and momentum.The Cape World Statesmen PDF will be a thing even if I have to do it all by myself, but I'm wondering if anyone would want to "claim" a character for a write up?Also as the pdf will be about the team and its members I'm asking what should the history of the Statesmen be like? We've only barely touched on that subjects.Who were in the first line-up? Was there a homeland defense force during WW2 of American Capes that couldn't-or wouldn't-make it to the front?Besides team member write ups and a history of The Statesmen is there anything else that should go in the pdf?
>>47337198Occasionally her eco-tendencies will manifest in her interactions with her team mates, and it could hint the PCs to her true identity.She has a soft spot for the COAST GUARDIANS sub-team because of their work protecting the environment, even if Fisher-Girl and Waveracer arrested her. She is also fond of DR. GLACIER for her work in studying and maintaining sea-life in her enormous "ice aquarium" off the coast of Alaska. On the other hand she has a strong dislike for AXEMAN because his dryad suits have allowed industrialists to explore and plunder rare materials found in the coldest depths of the oceans and in the hearts of volcanoes.(Going to drop the BACKSTORY blurb. I think everything that can be said it in can be said in ORIGIN and RELATIONSHIPS) >>47337332To expand on this if there isn't a character you feel like writing up but want to see written up just ask and I'll work on them next.
>>47335564>committed sudoku last thread.That can't be good. I hope that anon didn't
>>47332458If this guy's around what's even the point of your characters or any hero really? Have you talked to your GM about how bullshit this character?
>>47337332I swear, intro will come, but other than that some blurbs on how to run cape combat, as well as general mooks to put in a game (Chroman Footsoldier, Street Thug, Ninja).
>>47338497TOPICS TO DISCUSS:What Statesmen would you like to see have a full and comprehensive writeup like Mountain Lion has/is getting?The Pale is a good jumping on point for retro Cape adventures. Any ideas for more pre-WW2 capes?>>47339020Cool. Glad to know more people are putting work into Capeworld!...I really hope it doesn't die like so many other /tg/ projects. Things were developing so well until the Civil War last thread. And I really hope that one anon didn't kill himself.
>>47339020I really do like the name Chroman for Blue Cobalt's race.Hueman is a sensible chuckle's worth of pun but that's about it. What are the Chroman's goals beyond having a rigid caste system and generally conquering things?I sort of viewed them as a bit of a "Law Enforcement" empire. IE they conquer space, but in their wake enforce law and order. Places might be peaceful and free of lawlessness, but because you have a race of super strong people lording over you means theres not much in terms of upwards mobility. Pic unrelated the "General Assembly" pic is coming along. Messing with the Baron's Cosmic Coat. Thoughts so far?
>>47335564If I told you every appearance and reference than we'd be here all day. As is there are no less than 5 Statesmen not on that list who are slated to appear in person, as well as many more who will be mentioned in passing. Storyboard for File 1 is finished, but ideas for File 2 are in the air. This one is set mid Roaring 20s and I'm looking for ideas on a supporting character who is sufficiently Golden Age. Expect File 1 some time next week.
>>47339229Fuckin A that's looking good. I like how you worked his emblem into the lapels.
>>47339229 The colors for the Baron are fantastic
>>47339229I'm digging it but why is Baron wearing a ring? Is there a Ms.Bizarre?
>>47339229Baron's looking really nice so far. I really like how you're doing his coat.For Blue's race, last thread had some neat ideas for their ultimate motivation, which fits nicely with your "enforcing order" suggestion. Some ideas for how Dacante's people could fit into all of this, too.>>47312365>>47316424>>47316556For Huemen vs. Chroman, I feel like Huemen is too good a pun to pass up, but it's pronunciation would make it very confusing. Maybe Dr. Chase comes up with the name after some encounters or studies of them without Blue Cobalt around to correct him?
>>47337476>>47337476DIRECTIONThe simplest way for a GM to use Mountain Lion as as the mysterious, aloof, rude character that NPCs wish they knew more about. Who is this violent woman in a cat mask? What's her story? Alternatively the GM can use her as a rival figure. Can the PC's proof themselves not just by capturing the bad guys but by doing so before Mountain Lion?Story Hooks:1. Queen of the MountainMountain Lion's efficiency has utterly shown up an up and coming Colorado Super rendering his or her presence as a crime fighter useless. Instead of offering to mentor and help this super Mountain Lion sent them packing telling them to get a job they were good at.The PCs have a variety of ways to approach this problem. They could try to convince Mountain Lion to take the "cub" under her wing. They could try to find some team or area in need of a crime fighter for the super to join. Or they could find some form of non-crime fighting but rewarding super-work that the cape can do.2. Caught by the tailMountain Lion is being blackmailed by an unknown person or group that knows her identity. The pride and independent Mountain Lion has been drive into a corner and has turned to the PCs for help, either because they have shown to be good and trustworthy with their actions in the past or because they managed to help out Mountain Lion in the past. Mountain Lion isn't about to give into the blackmailers demands, whatever they may be, so the PCs have to race against tie to uncover the blackmail plot.3. Cosmic GardenerA recently reincarnated Atlantean armed with the exuberance of youth and cosmic powers decides to expand on the Atlantean philosophy that humanity is a miracle. To this Atlantean physical nature itself is as much of a miracle for having created humanity-if not more so. He's concerned about how humans are impacting the environment and has joined with EVERGREEN to learn what he needs to do to save the environment from people that "know best".
>>47339362So if Chromanans goal are to make other species perfect, what's the exact process of this ?
>>47339229>>47339362Chromans is probably the "official translation" of their name. Hueman would be something Dr Chase calls them. He keeps trying to get others to adopt the name with mixed results)As for their role I like taking the "law enforcement" idea and mixing with the "uplift primitive races" idea. Think of them as Victorian colonists but even more determined to make something out of the "savage and backwards" races they find.Them being space "law enforcement' also makes them a natural foe for Dacante's people given that they're supposed to be a kind of race of space nomads and pirates that fly around space by carrying their own atmosphere.Think of the Chromans as Imperial Spain and Dacante's people as the Caribbean pirates that raid the shit out of them. They aren't a threat to the Chroman's in any kind of big way but boy are they ever persistent and annoying.
>>47339554>Chromans as Imperial SpainNow I'm just imagining BC's father had a think spainaird mustache
Recently I've been obsessively reading Worm, and now I want to run a superhero campaign of some kind. The problem is I have no idea what system to run it in or what the setting will be like. I'm more looking for suggestions on the system than the setting, since I'm generally good at the latter. Preferably, I'd like something that won't get completely broken easily. Any suggestions?
So here's my idea for the Super Villain from previous thread.Cloe Coda was a part time programmer/engineer for a tech company in the north west. She was dabbling in a new realm of engineering: the process of creating nanotechnology. The nanobots she and her partner professor Malcolms made were highly advanced, able to respond to neurological impulses from an earpiece worn and could disassemble and reassemble machinery at a near cellular level.Things took a bad turn when Professor Malcolms sought to take the experiment for himself by using the nanomachines to kill Cloe. Cloe however still wore a neuro-controll emitter in her ear, so when the overrided nanobots began to cover her as instructed by professor malcolm, her will to live wound up changing their directive slightly so that they would rebuild her in the process.From that day on Cloe Coda became the supervillianess Killer Code. Driven mad by power, she is a hyper-advanced techno villainess who seeks to control the world. She creates all manner of destructive and terrible devices and sets them upon unsuspecting populaces. Although she can control practically any electronic device remotely her most dangerous power comes from her kiss.When her mouth touches the mouth of another she can send a swarm of nanobots into the brain of her victim and take control of their body. The only things that seem resistant to her control in this manner are those with abnormal biology (ie things without traditional brains) or psychic entities whose mind mastery can overcome her external forces.It's probably a good thing then that Killer Codes preferences lie almost exclusively with other women. Although she herself doesn't seem to experience sexual attraction, she seems to vastly prefer the female form aestetically. It's possible that Cloe's old self (who liked to collect and position dolls in various pretend scenerios as a hobby) has twisted into a horrific cybercontrolling form of it.
>>47339604Then I'd hate to see space Britain.
>>47339606If you want d20 Mutants and Masterminds is good. The GM's kit makes it easy to make characters on the fly but the players can break the game if they build their characters to min max.Wild Talents,Marvel Heroic and the Hero System also gets mentioned frequently on here
>>47339606Weaver Dice works well enough for chargen. After that use whatever system you're comfortable with. Or Weaver Dice, but it's still WIP and not very great.
>>47339348Possibly.It was an old touch i had a little while ago. I was leaning towards a "signant" ring, especially since its on his index finger rather than his ring finger. But i'm not opposed to the idea of a Mrs. Bizarre. Perhaps as a much more mundane lady. IE someone who isn't a wizard, theif, adventurer, superhero or villain. Because an interaction/relationship between a normal and a super has been something that's been a little under-represented. Baron's family being the authority on magical stuff, him dating a normal could've been viewed as a faux pas.I can remove it if needed. Or perhaps there "WAS" a Mrs. Bizarre. Emphasis on the past tense. You know, for some tragedy. The dangers of messing with magic.
>>47339548Forced eugenics and breeding programs.>>47339430Members of Evergreen are both terrified and elated to now have a small god on their side. But some members are concerned that the firebrands of the group are going to talk the Atlantean into doing something everyone is going to regret later. They're so desperate that they've contacted Mountain Lion and asked her to come back to Evergreen.She was always the level-headed one of the group, relatively speaking. Maybe she can talk some sense into the firebrands or the Atlantean before its too late? The PCs can become involved if they're investigating Evergreen and suddenly find Mountain Lion among their number, or if they're working with the Atlanteans or other "3 Earths' heavy groups and become tasked with finding out where a young missing Atlantean has run off to.4. Invasive SpeciesEvergreen has always been anti-robot, but ever sense Mountain Lion left they've been getting more and more anti-robot each day. Some older members are wondering if they're on the path to becoming a hate group. They've reached out to Mountain Lion to rejoin Evergreen and seize control before its too late. The PCs and Mountain Lion have to grapple with the question of whether its best to try and control the group by letting Mountain Lion become leader or whether its best to wipe out Evergreen once and for all. Mountain Lion will be in favor of the later. Alternatively its already too late and Evergreen is plotting to assassinate robotic mind-controller KILLER CODE as she's transported for her trial after attacking the annual Brazilian Super-Heroine Bikini Contest. The PCs and Mountain Lion have to protect KILLER CODE from assassination and then quite possibly protect the assassins from KILLER CODE'S minions and fans (the robot mind controller has a shocking number of people that -want- to be her mind slaves).
>>47339711>annual Brazilian Super-Heroine Bikini ContestAnd just like that I have a setting for File 3.
>>47339711IMPACT:Mountain Lion is a low impact character. She's not a super-builder and she isn't out to change or improve the world. She's out to catch criminals and bring them to justice. She's a simple character with a simple motivation and is ideal for use in a traditional "super criminals vs super heroes" game.AND WE'RE DONE!The first comprehensive write-up of a Cape World character in the hole. 49 more Statesmen to go. Any comments or criticism?>>47339735Glad I could help, it was something talked about a thread or two back. I think Dacante is the current reigning champion.>>47339657>Baron's love lifeIt's probably hard as hell if you're a big magic guy to find a wife. Your life is just so damn strange and stress filled. I bet most marriages between magicians are pre-arranged just so you can have someone that can keep up when you're cycling through Dr Strange Steve Ditko dimensions.I like the spoiler. It could have been the sad exception that proved the rule, and why the rule is needed.
>>47339142>Any ideas for more pre-WW2 capes?I had one idea. Ernst Rudolf Rothschild invented the first Robot before WWI. It was controlled by a wired remote control and intended to do heavy lifting and industrial work, but sort of stumbled its way into being a proto-superhero.Could possibly fight on Germany's side during WWI. A hero to Germans. A villain to allies. Or did some robot development. He could either die or flee Germany in the lead up to WWII because of any myriad of reasons; Being/becoming a Pacifist, SS on his tail, Etc. His Robotman's tech would be re-purposed and reversed engineered to make the first robot superhero. Rothschild Robotics Company would eventually be responsible for the prevalence of robot heroes post WWII. Pic related. This idea entirely exists because Rothschild Robotics is just a really cool alliteration.
>>47339616>start typing up a plot hook involving Killer Code>someone posts Killer CodeD-Did I summon her? Was Grant Morrison right about the hypersigils and comic universes?>>47339229Oh that looks so good. Thanks for posting, sometimes some drawfaggotry is just the shot in the arm a thread needs.Could you do a sketch for Mountain Lion later please?>>47339606Whorish answer: There's this brand new setting called Cape World that's really neat!Useful answer: I'm probably in the minority here but I've always liked CHAMPIONS. Its good a nice mix of pre gen bad guys and good guys to use.
>>47339657I can get behind Baron having a normal wife, whether she's alive or dead, hardly anyone in the generals believe that she's real
>>47339638I've looked into Mutants and Masterminds a bit and I've heard of Wild Talents, but I have no idea what the other two are like. Would someone mind giving a quick summary of what they're like?
>>47339803>Your life is just so damn strange and stress filled.A bit of normalcy can be just the anchor one needs. You get done banishing the God of Visions, Eyes No Eyes, from the dreamscape of third earth with a complicated ritual that had a child's soul in the balance, it might be refreshing to come home to someone, drink some tea, order some curry, and discuss what happened on Coronation Street while you were busy at work. And it would hurt to ever lose that.
>>47339838Sounds cool. So its like a WW1 gigantor?Put one of those pointed German helmets on it and I'm sold. They could be cool minions for a WW1 Capes game, or even as a PC class if they want to fight for the Kaiser.I definitely think it would be cool if Rothschild Robotics went on to survive through WW2 and create Drussenmann during the 1950's. A group of old scientists known for making weapons decide to redeem themselves by making an iron hero with a heart of gold.>>47339616Sexy, but in a good way I think. Like Catwoman or Poison Ivy. 10/10 would love to see her wrestle with Dacante or Virginia Daring or /co/lette passing through the multiverse.
>>47339883Killer Code's maker here. Go ahead and write your plothook I'd love to hear it.
>>47339941M&M uses the d20 system you might be familiar with from D&D, but a lot of the excess baggage from it has been stripped out to make a much more streamlined system. It's still the same basic mechanic of d20+modifiers compared to some sort of difficulty.The things I like most about M&M are the point-buy powers, which allow for a lot of creativity (and some munchkining) and the Freedom City setting. Between 2e and 3e, there's a HUGE amount of setting out there for all game types.
>>47339803>Any comments or criticism?We clearly need a wiki. That's the best way to ensure some kind of editorial control and conformity.
>>47340010So we should put it on 1d4chan?
>>47339972>Spoiler...Would it be to cliche to think that The Pale was responsible in some way?>>47339984It was already here:>>47339711I hope its alright!>>47340010Anybody know a good free wiki maker?
>>47340036It could certainly work.
>>47340054>Would it be to cliche to think that The Pale was responsible in some way?Possibly.One the one hand losing people is great motivation for heroics. Peter Parker has plenty to say on that subject. So that it may never happen again is But that said sometimes "dead loved one" can be a little overrated. And Doc Chase has the broken home thing going on with Harpy.I'd say leave it ambiguous. Did she die and he's touchy on the subject. Or maybe she still lives but always worries about bringing this weirdness home and it ever hurting her. So keeps distant around his friends. Or perhaps both. First wife died tragically, and after a long time of regretting and angsting over it has found love again, but is now super protective of her so that he can avoid having it happen again. Basically going from Gwen Stacy to Mary Jane.
>>47340054>...Would it be to cliche to think that The Pale was responsible in some way?Maybe, but cliché is not always bad. I would recommend another villain doing it, as The Pale probably couldn't. You know how I said his mind was a twisted oak? Well when it comes to non-lethality, that's the root. It should be clear by File 3, but Chase is still in there, just warped, and he would never kill. Not anymore.This is so that he won't just murder the PCs off hand.
>>47335080Aw man I know what you're talking about too
>>47334824>How would you guys design a dark age setting? What are the essentials besides anti heroes and a generally darker tone?Can't post the pdf because it contains "an embedded file".https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Rob_Liefeld's_BLOODP.O.U.C.H
>>47340266Wait What's the Pale and what does it have to do with Doc Chase? is he alright?
>>47340387The Pale is Baron Bizarre villain who's first name is Chase. He's not to be mistaken with Doc Chase
I've always had issues in narrative games or game involving superpowers about That Guy specializing in mystic powers of some sort and then claiming they apply to goddamn near everything.How do I convince a player that Sorcery =/= Mind Control/Telepathy/Flight/Durability/et cetera?
>>47340426Aw phew. Had me worried there for a second. sometimes I forget, first names need not be wholly unique in the world.
>>47340474You tell him you only have x amount of spells list them out to me now
>>47340475It's why I refer to Doc Chase in full or as Doc
>>47340474You point out to him that Magic Powers in comics are generally a collection of five to eight spells you use all the time.Magic Blast. Chains of Binding.Mystic Shield.Levitation.Scrying.Spirit Summoning.Like that. Those are defined and easy to cast. Anything else is either a ritual that takes time, effort, and special materials or is an off the cuff spell that needs some extra juice...usually in the form of a hero point/Fate point/extra complication.
>>47327108It would be a fairly good character building exercise, depending on the powerlevel of your heroes it could be a legitimate "unwinnable battle" situation. Where your heroes have to do damage control but in the end they can't save everyone despite their efforts, cue heartbreaking child hand sticking out of pile of rubble etc.>Inb4 the sokovia accords
>>47340474Tell him that he is playing an RPG and its not a comic, and as such the limitations on his character have to be defined in order for the game to have meaning, provided you guys aren't in to freeform, as most people aren't.Sure Doctor Strange can use his powers to make himself harder than diamond and strong as Thor etc but the versatility of his powers is why he is such an OP cosmic level character in universe, and no one wants to play next to one of those and get constantly upstaged.
Here comes another one.TEXAS: CAPTAIN JUSTICE"Please get on the ground sir. Its much more comfortable for you than what I got in my Justice Launcher."And the quote for Mountain Lion: "You fucked up, and now you face the consequences. I'm the consequences."ORIGIN:Captain Justice is a name that holds special reverence for Texas. The first recorded Texas Mystery Man way back in the late 1800's was ex-Confederate Captain Moore who was known by his men during the Civil War as "Captain Justice' for his unshakable sense of justice and duty. He never mistreated an enemy be they Union, black, white, Indian, or anything. "All men are equal before God and Justice" was his motto. After the Civil War Captain Moore settled as a farmer and worked to bring law to the lawless frontier as sheriff of a small town. He adopted a masked disguise and the name his men gave him to protect his friends and loved ones as he waged a one man war against forces that believed they were beyond the law such as robber barons that sought to bully honest men out of their land through strong arm tactics and army generals that sought to massacre tribes of Native Americans. His strangest adventure came when he encountered the Navajo deity Alien God Killer and aided him, as little as he was able to, in ridding a town of an "extradimensional infection".In time Captain Justice passed the name onto his sons, and his sons passed the name onto their sons always striving to prove that "All men are equal before God and Justice". Their legacy was not without blemish however, and several scandals haunt the Moore family to the present time. There were two Captain Justices during the 1930's when Dwight Moore took up the name from his father only to join the KKK and fought his brother Thomas Moore for the right to be Captain Justice. Logan Moore, the Captain Justice of the 1950's, worked for the McCarthy Hearings finding dirt on suspected Communist supers and sometimes bringing them in for questioning.
>>47339554>DacanteVento Dançante (ç is pronounced like "s").
>>47339884>>47340259What if the only General teammate that has ever met Ms.Bizarre was Trinity ?
>>47340979Could be cute. Trinity does some snooping around the Baron's super-dimensional Dreaming mansion and finds her behind one of its many doors.Baron agrees not to tell the horrible truth that Trinity is more interested in magic than super science as long as Trinity doesn't tell anyone about his wife.
>>47341125That spoiler. I wouldn't even want to know how Papa Doc would react to that.
>>47334975Better than 95% of DeviantArt Sonic art
Some pastebins that should probably go in the next OP http://pastebin.com/gms0S8Vbhttp://pastebin.com/bU7vZFAN
>>47341197Doc Chase would probably be in denial initially but he'd support Trinity's interest in the occult
Got an idea on Palmetto Bug. Could he be an inspiration for monster "The Thing" style heroes? Could he be leader of a kind of Doom Patrol team?He favors hard work and integration for monster heroes, and this makes some monster heroes of the SJW variety upset with him. "How dare he hide his face! Why can't bug be beautiful?" They see him as an Uncle Tom Monster when he should be demanding that societal standards of beauty change.Basically he knows his appearance, twitchy nature, and eating habits make people uncomfortable so he takes measures to be discreet. But other ugly heroes believe that society shouldn't be disgusted in the first place.Would this be okay to work into his write up or would it be too soapboxy?Speaking of Doom Patrol, one idea last thread was for a super team of Jack Kirby style monsters. Anyone have an idea for a member?>>47341933"She's a QUANTUM scientist. She's studying the very frontiers of physical theory!""But why is she reading out of a spellbook-""QUANTUM!"
>>47325510>Superheroes GeneralYeah, sure, okay, I've got a Cape World building question:-So in my setting I've been casually working on about 80% of the human population has SOME kind of super power. -With this in mind: Some people's power has some sort of process or ability that allows them to produce UNIQUE PRODUCTS: Food stuffs, Raw Materials, Energy sources, Medicinal or Chemical products, etc.. etc..-Currently I have it so that MANY of these items are already synthesized/artificially recreated in labs, farms, etc so they can be safely sold to the general population en masse.. But some people still run a tidy little cottage industry for those who think the best product comes from the source.But, with that in mind:>What sort of Ethics would a "Super/Cape world" have about buying or consuming the physical byproducts of other beings?>What about Patents/Copyrights? How would they work?>For that matter: Would the black market be as gruesome as I'm thinking it would be..?
>>47342090A man that has a fish like appearance with tusks and can swim through land. I'm sorry I can't be original, I was rolling using this http://www.witchboy.net/articles/rpg-materials/the-monster-generator/
>>47342326>What sort of Ethics would a "Super/Cape world" have about buying or consuming the physical byproducts of other beings?I think it would depend how new the product is and if the public knows where it came from. Like the average person knows McDonald's is shit for you but they still eat it anyway. I suppose something that came from another man wouldn't be too different if this has been happening long enough>What about Patents/Copyrights? How would they work?I'm not a lawyer so I can't help out on that one. >For that matter: Would the black market be as gruesome as I'm thinking it would be..?The answer is always yes.
>>47342326>What sort of Ethics would a "Super/Cape world" have about buying or consuming the physical byproducts of other beings?depends on the person. human breast milk is for sale right now if you know where to look.so it would mostly just be what their selling that's the issue like meat from their regenerating body.>What about Patents/Copyrights? How would they work?that's bit of a messier issue, I recommend you look up some court cases involving "superfoods" and how the farmers get sued into oblivion for accidently farming them.>For that matter: Would the black market be as gruesome as I'm thinking it would be..?YES. I don't care what your thinking it's probably true.
>>47342326>What sort of ethics?Given that they seem to be able to produce matter out of nothing you're looking at something like a post-scarcity society where everything is controlled by families. One family makes food. One metal. One batteries of energy like coal or such.>Patents and CopyrightFrom what I understand you can have claims to certain sources but not certain resources. You own coal mines, not coal. So the people would be able to own and sell what they produce. Think of them as walking mindes.>Black MarketI don't see it. More money to be made just by having an open market, especially when the real money is going to be in selling and manufacturing these products. You're going to need more than resource-people for that. You're going to need industry, and its hard as hell to run industry in the shadows. >>47342383...That could actually work.SYRAGG, THE MONSTER THAT SWIMS THROUGH EARTH LIKE WATER!I'm seeing a misfit from the mystical archipelago where he was isolated on his island with his people sense he was born (can swim through land, not water). Explorers found him and told him about this wonderful place called the United States that had lots and lots of open land in the mid west and was relatively tolerant of weirdness.He works as a super-plow, tilling the land of entire farming communities which treat him as a good neighbor. He's naturally shy, but compared to other "monster misfits" he's incredibly well adjusted. He's the one that pushes less adjusted members of the team to find some way to integrate and work with human society.
>>47342090her intrest might come from her wanting to figure out the nature of her whole "Splitting up" thing.Perhaps she got her powers from a Triskellion Trigon which may be magical.
>>47342090"Dad it really is a spell book.""Oh Trini, I know science is pretty magical.""I think we're losing him."
>For that matter: Would the black market be as gruesome as I'm thinking it would be..?>>47342426>The answer is always yes.>>47342522>YES. I don't care what your thinking it's probably true.Jesus christ how super horrifying & super depressing.
>>47342854There's a reason heroes need to be heroes
>>47340375Looks interesting, but my question is what kind of archetypes should be in a 90's grim and gritty game? I'm thinking kind of how the M&M generator has mystic, battle suit, paragon, etc.What would the list be like in the 90's mold?
>>47342426selling super bodyparts and super organs harvested from old supers to give normal people superpowers.
>>47342624Speaking of spellbooks, what are the most interesting ones you've seen in games? One of my players used a variety of dances to remember and cast spells, which I thought was more interesting than just a normal book.
>>47343590Ninja,Mercenary,Ninja Mercenary,Commando, Commando Ninja, Space Mercenary,Space Ninja, Rugged Veteran>>47343634I once had a character idea for a Nazi who essentially sewed heroes body parts to himself so he could gain their abilities.
>>47343590This guy >>47343701 isn't far off. But I'd add "Demons" or something to that effect, to include things like Spawn, The Darkness, Bloodrayne. Criminals (ex or current cons)and I dunno, what would The Tick count as?
>>47343701So far I got Dark Supernatural Avenger (Azbats (talks to ghosts), Spawn, The Crow, Bloodwynd, That one Doctor Fate no one likes to acknowledge) Feral Scrapper (The bazillion wolverine clones, includes animal ladies like Feral, Wolfsbane, Tigra, that one from Titans I can't remember)Big Guns (Cable, Bishop, Punisher)Big Guy (Deformed muscle monsters like Maxx, Strong Guy, Random, Hard Rock)Bimbo Ninja (Psylocke, Elektra, Shi, tons of "bad girl" image clones)Any big archetype I'm missing?
>>47344071SPOON!Maybe have "Joke Character" as a class.
>>47344110Lots of softcore porn. It was an age of tittilation, as well. Expect witches to wear next to nothing and hookers on every corner.
>>47344110well there's the TMNT archetype of mutant Animal Menalso you should read up on the 80's and 90's version of Valiant Comics, they were pretty much the best example of comics of that era, and there's probably some inspiration to be gleamed from there
>>47344164Bimbo as a secondary class or race? There would be Human, Titty Monster, and Big Guy. Anyone I'm missing?
>>47344164>Expect witches to wear next to nothingWasn't it the 90's that had Wanda wear a bikini as her costume? And gave Wolfsbane a one-piece? I always thought a demure Christian girl like herself would be so comfortable showing all that leg in X-force and Excalibur.
>>47344164Oh I miss 90's cheesecake
>>47344234You'd need >>47344218as a race. And "short hairy dude with claws" might as well be race. Wolverine was the Batman and Iron Man of his day.
>>47344110You guys forgot twisted psychopath with a sick sense of humor
>>47344218>ValiantNever read any of its stuff. Whats it like?>TMNTThat reminds me. From what little we have Cape World New York's sewers seem like a hell of a place. I think it should almost be like the Underdark of D&D. Not a place for low level parties.What cool stuff should be inside Cape World Sewers? A misfit colony of animal mutants who idolize Palmetto Bug and consider themselves a sovereign, independent nation ? CHUDs? Rat and Gator mutants that fight for control of subway trains and demand tribute from surface people using "their territory"?
DRINK IT ININJECT IT IN YOUR VEINS
>>47344494I know people like to crap on the site, but the TVTropes page for Valiant is actually pretty informative;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/ValiantComics
>>47344494New York Capes are careful never to make holes in the ground while they fight. If someone's super armor or super weapon gets knocked down below street level the Clan of the Mice Ninjas will claim that it now belongs to them under their treaty with the city.
>>47344494A dimensional backdoor to the realm of the atlanteans, all of the above, Science Tyrant's spare suit, the Compendium of Chase Verun, a second official Bizarre family seal, the remote lock for the Russian WMD suit, an odd Pizza parlour, a Chroman distress beacon, 10 tons of Spring, etc.
>>47344164The wings on her outfit and how they hook onto bracelets are just plain old cool. Might use that for harpy. >>47344494i met some of the guys doing the Valiant relaunch at a local con a couple years back. got a couple free number ones and a signed volume 1 of Archer and Armstrong. Archer and Armstrong is the adventures of an immortal mesopotamian turned party goer bum who's hung out with gallileo and michaelanglo, and his ex-fundamentalist christian super assassin. I've been meaning to read the rest of their run.There was also a crossover with Quantum and Woody (two super hero step brothers, one straight-laced serious, the other a slacker), where (and this was the release at the convention) they find the map of the hobo king. Pic related. Theres other comics i've read that include Dr. Mirage, Ivar The Timewalker.But I think other chracters valiant did include Ninjack, Bloodshot, XO Manowar (Viking who finds an alien supersuit), Harbinger, and more.
>>47345077>XO ManowarOh shit! I remember that one! I had the game boy game with him and Iron Man!
I'm doing the worldbuilding for a supers game that starts in a couple of weeks, and as I get ready to start statting things I'm faced with a choice:ORE or FATE?If you've played either of these two systems, what are your thoughts on them?
>>47345597I did ORE one time with some friends a long time ago. Some sort of gritty WW2 supers game. I remember it being a pretty alright system, not hard to manage.
>>47340755But although there have been the occasional bad apple most men who have taken up the mantle of Captain Justice have kept to Captain Moore's creed.The latest Moore to take up the name is young Noah Moore, a frail and weedy man that makes up for his slight built with super gear (all of which is domestic made, no Captain Justice has ever used Italian imports as a matter of pride) and powerful passion. Ever sense the creation of the Statesmen Texas has elected a Captain Justice to its roster just as Main has always elected a Fisherman (or in the modern case Fisher-Girl). Noah was a shoe-in to win a seat and he did. He is determined to live up to his family's legacy and motto. POWERSCaptain Justice has no super powers, but he is a highly disciplined hero that keeps a cool head in combat regardless of how dire or weird it seems. Noah makes use of gadgets and armor to fight crime, a Captain Justice tradition that goes all the way back to the first who fought with customized colt six shooters that fired a variety of ammunition such as sacred silver bullets obtained from his adventure with Alien God Killer, magnetically charged micro-tesla coil bullets fashioned for him by the man himself, and "stampeder" explosive bullets.Previous Moores have tended to favor close combat gadgets sense Captain Moore's time. The Captain Justice of the 1980's made use of special whips that coiled and moved to his mental commands. The Captain Justice of the 1950's favored a large customized riot shield that could fire off pulses of force. But rather than try to compensate for his slim build Noah has decided to take the legacy back to Captain Moore and focus on ranged combat.Noah wears a heavy suit of powered armor that slows his agility but provides excellent protection from all sorts of attacks. As with all who have been Captain Justice Noah's suit is crowned with a metal piece shaped into a old west cowboy hat that can function as a police siren.
>>47346103Although the first generations of Moores were heroic outlaws that fought against those that hid behind the law Captain Justice has been vested with all the authority (and more) of a Texas Ranger sense the 1950's "Super Ranger" bill was passed by the Texas state legislature.For weapons Captain Justice makes use of his special "justice grenades" which can be either thrown or fired from two "justice launchers" that resemble enormous six-shooters. His "justice grenades" are high-tech and versatile weapons. A normal grenade is thrown, detonates, and discarded. But this is not so for a justice grenade. Each grenade responds to Noah's thoughts using the same technology that allowed the 1980's Captain Justice to control his whips. Noah can order his justice grenades to detonate on impact, after a period of time or at his command. Each justice grenade is capable of delivering certain kind of non-lethal blast chosen by Noah before use to best match a certain opponent of situation. Noah's most common model of justice grenades is able to release a flash bang, knock out gas, immobilizing putty, a taser like blast of incapacitating electricity, and an anti gravity field.These grenades are not discarded after the first use. For instance, Noah could launch a justice grenade having set it to release gas upon impact. Once it does so he can have it release a burst of electricity if his opponents are unaffected by the gas, or have it release an antigravity field if they still seem unaffected. Or Noah could have the grenade lie dormant while the battle builds, activating it later to surprise opponents. Each Justice Grenade is also fitted with a tiny motor allowing it to roll around the battlefield at Noah's command. Even if Noah misses hitting his target in a salvo of justice grenade blasts those same grenades can all rush at the opponent.After a battle is over the grenades can be recollected, recharged, refilled, and reused.
>>47346103>police siren.that brings up a question, what are the cops like in cape world?do they have any access to super tech/and or magic? either from the government or some local super who donated it to help them out?how do they work with supers running around solving crimes and causing it, do they just let the superheroes handle the supervillains while handling the more complicated stuff or do they try to be a little proactive about it?are there any supers that didn't put on a mask and instead become a cop?
still working on the big generals pic. but I have since been mucking around with a logo design.Still have to finish coloring Trinity, Doc, and Baron Bizarre.But I'm feeling pretty done on Psinobi and Blue Colbalt.Any comments so far? Still WIP.
>>47346636Great work as always. I think I said this already but I really dig Baron Bizarre's design with the interior looking space.
>>47346584Considering Cape World seems to be used to some of the weirder happenings, I imagine the police are armed with some advanced technology to deal with super villains but at the end of the day the PCs still need to be the ones to save their asses.
I'm going to start a game soon and I'm wondering what to do for the first session. Should I let everyone make characters, flesh out relationships, etc or throw them into the action and do all that other stuff later?
>>47346718well you kind of need characters to throw into the action so focus on that first.
>>47346636>Blue CobaltShe looks pretty fucking swell desu senpai. Love her outfit!The rest of them are coming along nicely, too. Assuming that the parts still in white are the ones you want color suggestions for, I'm not too sure myself what to do with Trinity's jacket. Making it black kind of overdoes the lack of color in a design that's supposed to be a little circus inspired. Maybe a pattern of blue, red and green? Though that might be difficult to keep drawing consistently.I'm thinking some combination of the three colors, or a separate one. And this is all assuming that you're going with the previous design of her triplets all being their own color, and the "main" Trinity being something different.As for Baron's pants, I'm not sure if they should be colored in. White pants go pretty well with the rest of his outfit.Not sure about his ascot, maybe something silvery? I think silver would go well with the gold trim on the coat and the rest of his clothes.But those are just my suggestions. What you have done so far is great. Especially with Blue, again, very very nice job with her.
>>47346584>How do capes work with cops?Depends on the country.In Russia and China all supers ARE the police/military. In Germany supers are encouraged to stick to using their powers only in extreme emergencies and letting the police handle it, so supers that want to fight crime often become cops. In America the police have a good working relationship with the vigilantes (think Batman and Gordon) and there is some crossover with police becoming capes and capes becoming police and some that make the distinction murky like Captain Justice. Generaly it depends on how much you want to keep your identity secret. Cops don't have secret ID, and America has many programs that allow anonymous super-people to assist law enforcement (can we call them Gordon Laws?) In Japan capes are traditional tightly regulated by the government in Tokyo but there are plenty of independents such as the KINGs. Generally if what you do is of great importance (such as fighting off Overlord Darkness's latest organization of evil) Japan will leave your identity alone.Africa has supers as kings and rulers, their authority being heads above the authority of a cop.>What kind of gear do the police have?SWAT guys the world over probably make use of matador suits and energy weapons and other super science goodies. The average cop's layout will depend on the culture. Japanese cops just like in real life aren't armed with anything more than baton at most. American cops probably have a multi-setting energy pistol. NYC cops probably go around with more than most SWAT teams.>>47346636IT'S BEAUTIFUL! I particularly dig the twinkling stars in Baron's cape. When ya gonna do that Brazillian bikini contest huh? Bonus points if each participant has a score over their heads >>47346718I'm a little confused. Do they not have characters period? Have you decided with them whether or not you're using pre gens?
>>47346777>>47346636Maybe Trinity's jacket is white or red and when duplicates it changes color?
>>47346718If they're eager to play I'd give them pregens and run them through a premade adventure(for MnM something with Professor Otaku or Emerald City Knights) but I think it's best you use session having the make the characters and flesh them out since cape games seem to be more narrative.
>>47346752Yeah they would make characters either way, but it's a question of how in-depth they get. For example, if you know you have superman powers, you can just start punching stuff and do relationships, character, etc. laterI realize I didn't make my first post very clear, my bad.
>>47346878>>47346783And also i didn't read down far enough...Nobody's got characters yet - well, they've got ideas but not stated out. I'm going to use Wild Talents.
>>47346506Noah prides himself on his gears ability to subdue a foe with minimal injury. The first Captain Justice disliked killing opponents, but circumstances often gave him little choice. Noah sees his non-lethal gear along with his legal standing as adaptions Captain Justice must make to better serve a brighter, better present.If the GM wishes to run a less powerful Captain Justice he may take away his twin justice launchers and give him a more realistic grenade launcher like the kind real life riot officers use. The justice grenades can also be turned into single use grenades that lack their bells and whistles. Exotic attacks like the electricity burst and antigravity blast can be discarded.In a fight Noah remains aware that his stamina is very weak even with his armor doing all the work. He moves slowly and with great care not to over exert himself. He does not chase after opponents, rather he uses his exceptional skill with his justice launchers to pick off opponents, even from miles away. He takes his time to line up his shots and trusts to his armors ability to protect him. In an exchange of fire power he's confident that his aim, quick wits, and versatile justice grenades will win out so he focuses on accurately attacking his foe and little on dodging or evading.PERSONALITYNoah is polite to a T, even to opponents wanting to kill him. The original Captain Justice was known to always give his opponent a chance to surrender, and often gave them multiple chances throughout a fight. Noah keeps up the tradition. Noah is polite, friendly, and hardworking. If someone looks like they have a problem he'll ask to help. If the Statesmen need a member to travel across country to fill in during a visitation to school children for a member that canceled Noah will be the first one with his hand up. He's a born leader comfortable with taking the initiative and naturally falls into the role during operations with his teammates.
>>47346928One of the coolest things you can do is let each player give their own character an "introduction." They can resolve whatever small crisis they like (hostage, mugging, fire, etc.) and let them show off their character and powers in the most flattering way possible. It's like how Spider-Man's signature scene is stopping a mugging in an alleyway with his powers, then leaving the muggers hanging from a lamppost covered in web.
>>47346806I was thinking white. mostly because her duplicates are red, green, and blue. The colors for light, and when they come together they're white. That said alternatively I was thinking a brown jacket. Tie her colors in a little to Doc Chase.>>47346777Yeah the uncolored areas are what im looking for suggestions on color. I still need to do the human member's skin tones.I'm thinking of pushing the Doc Savage connection by giving Doc some tanned bronze skin. But not sure.I can see the silvery pants/ascot working. >>47346676thanks anon.
>>47346996Same hair color for Trinity as Doc? I think Baron has to have either white or black hair.
>>47346996Wait a minute, I-I know that robot...
>>47347019I was thinking black hair with a silver stripe.Gives him a bit of age, and style. That and I fucking love Rogue hair. >>47347020I do too. when does it start again?
>>47347019>>47346996Maybe give Trinity should have black hair like her mama
>>47347104Really get that 14 year old vibe and make it black with a stripe of red, green, and blue.
>>47347134That sounds like a pretty neat idea.
>>47347104>>47347134Very quick sketch but still thoughts?
>>47347291I'm digging how it's turning out.
>>47346982You mean play it out? Or do they just make it up?
>>47346636>>47347291>>47346996Doc should definitely be tanned considering how much he travels. Baron and Trinity I imagine would either a fair or olive skin tone.>>47347408I think he means make it up. It'd be a damn shame if Spider-man fucked webbing dude to a lamp post for his introduction.
>>47347440>It'd be a damn shame if Spider-man fucked webbing dude to a lamp post for his introduction.But also hilarious...
>>47347440Thanks I'll take those notes down. Is the brown jacket okay then? Also have some more "Logos" Tried to do something vaguely Avenger's esque. Also tried out a serif font called Chatype, if only cause its a modern looking typeface, and there is a sore lack of serif'd super logos.
>>47347553The bottom or fourth from the top are my favorites and the jacket on Trinity looks fine.
>>47346955RELATIONSHIPSWhile the Statesmen have no official leader Noah like other members like BLUE CRAB and BLACK MINISTER II naturally falls into the role during missions due to his legacy and personality. He is widely loved and respected by teammates as much as he is by his state. Young and new members such as FISHER-GIRL and WAVE-RACER see him as a role model. Older and veteran members such as HAUNTER and THE LIBRARIAN see him as carrying on the Moore legacy with grace.All and all he's a very successful superhero. Even his arch-foe LEGACY couldn't prevent him from getting voted to the Statesmen let alone pilloried by the state.While CAPTAIN JUSTICE has had many foes such as the the RED CACTUS GANG, descendants to the name if not the blood of the first Red Cactus Gang Captain Moore fought, none have been more of a challenge to beat than LEGACY, a self-styled "Warrior for Social Justice" that was a hero, not a villain, although he fought to put an end to Captain Justice just as hard as any villain.LEGACY is a white male, although people believed his claim to be a female Navajo when he first arrived on the scene in a near-exact replica of Noah's armor and wielding near-doubles of his justice grenades and launchers.He claimed that Captain Justice was a symbol of oppression. The first was a Confederate. Another was a member of the KKK. One was a McCarthy witch-hunter. Legacy argued that Noah Moore could not make up for the sins of his ancestors by carrying on their legacy. The slate had to be wiped clean, else Captain Justice would forever be a living, breathing, oppressive symbol of racism and intolerance.LEGACY fought hard to become the replacement Captain Justice. He fought to win over the hearts and minds of the people by outdoing Captain Justice in catching criminals and protecting people. He wanted to show that he could do everything Captain Justice could do but without the problematic legacy.
>>47347681Is Legacy too much of a soapbox character? Should I remove him?
>>47325510I can count 11 babies, probably more because his back is not exposed. That's at least 40-50 kgs of dead weight. You won't capture any hostages when you are that slow.
>>473475535th one is my favorite. Brown jacket is fine.
>>47347693It's interesting, soapbox, but not something I've ever seen. I'd say change some words to make it less obvious, but otherwise keep it. Lose the bit about his gender and race identity.
>>47347752Alright. I'll get him edited for the paste bin.
Figure i'd quickly sketch this out.Making smaller teams out of the broader elements of the Statesmen.The paranormal team "The Strangers">Ms. Cryptic>Belltown Haunter>Otherthing>Extrahuman>Ghost O' Jaroneunless you think the Stephen King/Hellblazer analogue should be on there.
>>47347917Extrahuman and Ms.Cryptic look adorable as always.
>>47347917Magic Team...Water Team...What else we got?
>>47347950Colored beauties>Virgina Daring>Blue Cobalt>Vento Dançante
>>47347681Noah, ever the gentleman, was just glad there was another hero in town. In spite of his efforts Legacy was unable to steal the vote away. He was not a graceful loser and claimed his loss only proved how tolerate Texas were for oppressive symbols.Noah tries to be friends with all Statesmen, but he is perhaps the only one who is friends with Alien God Killer. The ancient god took a liking to his ancestor when they "teamed up" and is amused that as the decades pass him by in the blink of an eye there is still a Captain Justice very much like his ancestor. It is almost as Captain Moore was in his own way an immortal like himself.They don't talk much. They have little in common. One is a man and the other is a god. But Alien God Killer occasionally tries to strike up a conversation with him, ask him how his family is and things like that. The two can usually carry on a conversation over coffee or beer, even if the two mostly have to pretend to be interested in what the other talks about. Awkwardness or no, the two deeply appreciate the bond they share.In terms of interacting with the PCs Noah can fill many roles. To new supers he can be a mentor. To older ones he's a sign that legacies are being kept in the best of ways. Private and shy capes may find him prying, but others will appreciate that he wants to be helpful.Noah can work with just about any group of PCs and is used to filling in for other Statesmen on a mission. If a player suddenly can't make it to the session a GM may consider having Noah sub in for the player's character during the session.>>47347917Should Rugaru be apart of the Strangers or would he just be an associate of Ms Cryptic?>>47347950COAST GUARDIANS for water team. STRANGERS for the paranormal team.Something with armored heroes? Captain Justice, Pitt Fighter, Mountain Lion?Pele, Alien God Killer, and Coyote on the god squad, even if 2/3rds of them are "maybe a god maybe
>>47348007>Colored beautiesDas raciss
>>47347950>>47348007>>47348025 So who won this year's Super-Heroine bikini contest in Brazil?
>>47347950I don't think the strangers are a magic team. But a "Weird" team. Alien,Cryptid,Ghost,Eldritch,and Demonic.>>47348024>>Should Rugaru be apart of the Strangers or would he just be an associate of Ms Cryptic?It would fit the "Weird theme" under a sort of "Universal Movie Monster" role. Rugaru is basically a "French Werewolf" right?
>>47348041The people who got to witness it.
>>47348073>>47348024Not every Statesman has to be part of a mini group.
>>47348024>>47347950Maybe add Bob Cat and Liberats as "modern gods" to the god squad?Deseret, Reverend, and Snake Charmer are Type Christian.Black Hole Man, Axeman, Bob Cat, Fairy Finder and Dr. Glacier on team "off doing their own things in cool parts of the world"Dr. Glacier, Black Hole Man, Kentucky Rain, Axeman, Haunter, Ms Cryptic, Gemstone, and Erik the Red (I have big plans for him. Think like a Paul Bunyan of Minessota. He wrestles with the water monsters of Lake Superior) on team "use super powers to help the world in non-crime fighting ways">>47348073They're team Fortean Times.>>47348088Its true. But I like brainstorming, and some of these are tongue-in-cheek and informal.
>>47348041>>47348088>implying it isn't Dacante or VirginiaBlue Cobalt's chances of winning are the same as Ms.Cryptic and Trinity.
I like edgy Operator "Heroes"Like Deathstroke, FRANK Castle, Deadshot etc.
>>47348688In what universe are Slade Wilson and Floyd Lawton are good guys?
>>47348696Well Slade not so much. he's just a merc.But Floyd started his carrier by doing the sensible thing and capping asshole criminals Gotham. (until some liberal nogun-commiebat took him down)He is a sociopath but not the kind of villain that kills babys for shit and giggles. He has some kind of moral-code. In secret six he even fights crime together with Bane and Catman, while Bats is missing/dead.
>>47339616So how does Killer Code treat her "dolls"? Does she force them to kneel before her? Dress them up in embarrassing clothes? Wrestle them into submission before she nanite's them and makes them kiss her as a sign of surrender instead of tapping out?How much does Killer Code like being a Killer Queen?
>>47348714Floyd does have a code, he's not Captain Boomerang, but his code only goes so far. I remember in Ostrander's Suicide Squad when they were trapped in a Russian embassy with hostages and it was clear someone had to stay behind to prevent the hostages from leaving and sounding the alarm (long story) he suggested simply capping all the innocent tourists and civvies and would have if Flagg didn't pull rank.
>>47347917About to head to bed for the night. Have one more pic for fun. So is she listening to the Doors or Echo and the Bunnymen version?what are other super's favorite songs?
>>47348696Earth 3 obviously
>>47348696>>47348714>>47348748>>47348773They are the kind of lawful evil mercs that will kill people for money, but in a world-ending thread-scenario they will join the "good" side.
So I am soon going to be running a Masks game. I won't be using the default setting so I'm looking to build a questionnaire that my players and I will go through to do mutual world building. What questions would you suggest I ask?
>>47348826>Who is your favorite superhero?>What sort of stories do you like to read?>What is most important as a superhero?>How common are superheroes?>How advanced is the world?>Is there magic?
Okay you guys, I'm not sure if this is the right thread for this, but I have a plan. My. friends and I are trying to scrape a game together, and I want to do something a little weird...I want to make a guy who is secretly Spider-Man. What system?5e, naturally.Where should I start? Rogue seems most likely to me, I want him to emphasize on acrobatics and unarmed combat, using whips and nets as traps and crowd control.Is this the right thread for this or am I being an ass? I'm a /co/mrade who only really comes here for the OotS threads and worldbuilding discussions, please be gentle.
>>47348826Also I've only managed to find the playbooks and a earlier copy of the book. It be great if anyone had GM screen/move sheets and if there any updated book.
>>47349668Do you want to do an actual superhero game or just your character concept is based off Spiderman?
>>47349787I want to base the character off him personality- and ability-wise but not obviously Spider-Man, I want it to not be obvious and my friends to figure it out on their own and groan at my stupid joke once someone gets it.Ambitious, maybe, but I want to try something weird.
>>47349850I....guess Rogue would do it?You'd be a lousy fighter compared to Spidey, but playing a Swashbuckler Rogue might get you where you want to be, especially since Spidey's all about chatting up while he gets into fights, but his unarmed combat will pretty much always be a sub-par choice.If you want better advice, head over to the /5eg/ thread since they have a lot more people around to talk about 5e's rules then we do.
>>47348818Neither Floyd or Slade are "Lawful" exactly (Flyod especially).Slade might be LE if he kept more consistently to his personal moral code (arguably he did when Wolfman wrote him still), but Lawton doesn't give a flying fuck about that stuff one way or another.He works for Waller not because he has a code of honor but because he genuinely doesn't care if he lives or dies (or about anything really) and the Squad usually promises him the best chance at doing what he dies and dying in an interesting fashion.Deadshot is basically Neutral Evil; he has zero moral codes of his own, a complete disrespect for human life (his own included) and little to no actual loyalty to his employers or even his erstwhile "allies".It's tempting to label Lawton a sociopath, but his fucked-up family history and backstory suggests he simply might just be a deeply damaged person.
>>47348073Rugaru is a hillbilly who was cursed by a witch and transformed into a sasquatch
>>47352213Captian Juctice rule 63?
>>47352395I always figured she was one of those intergalactic sheriffs who patrols the cosmos.That, plus she doesn't have an armored suit.
>>47348024DIRECTION1. Captain Justice Rides AgainThere's a new face in Mexico's team of dead legacy heroes and villains known as THE HONORED DEAD...the first Captain Justice. How can this be? Why has he only appeared now? To make matters worse the spirit is claiming that Noah is a fraud, a failure, and that the legacy should have died with himself. The spirit seems very unlike the kind and considerate Captain Justice of history. Its mean, sexist, racist, and claims to have enjoyed killing. Many believe that the identity of Captain Moore has been assumed by an impostor. Is it a demon in service with one of the Statesmen's magical foes? Is it the ghost of a Mexican super villain hoping for one last blow against a super hero? Or could it possibly be the actual Captain Justice revealed for the first time as he really was? The rest of the HONORED DEAD are of no hep. Their inner secrets are unknown to each other. ALIEN GOD KILLER is only of little help. He claims that this spirit is very unlike the man he knew, but adds that the man he knew was late in his years. Perhaps this is a ghost of a younger Captain Justice? Regardless of the ghost's identity Noah is taking the news rather hard. He believes in Captain Justice. He believes in the idea of Captain Justice...and while that's all he needs to keep fighting he would also like to believe in the man Captain Justice. The PCs have to help him uncover the identity of the ghost...and deal with the fallout of the discovery.The GM can decide whether or not he ghost is Captain Justice. If its not the discovery of the deception and who is pulling it off and why can build into its own campaign. If the ghost IS Captain Justice than it is the ghost of his younger, wilder self years before he met Alien God Killer and stories of him being "Captain Justice" to his troops during the Civil War were embellishments, changes to his past to better match the man he became.
Making Captain Justice a violent bigot that became a noble hero isn't the only way to play the scenario out. The GM can choose a more subtle route and make Captain Justice exactly like what the history books say he is-save for one flaw. He hates blacks or he hates women or he hates some group of people, but beyond this flaw he's as noble as they say. Regardless of how "extreme' the GM makes Captain Justice Noah will struggle to change him and his views. If he's simply a younger Captain Justice than surely it means its possible for him to become yet again the man that rode with Alien God Killer!As a further plot twist Noah spending all his time trying to "save the soul" of Captain Justice may be apart of a villian's scheme to waste his time on a fruitless, emotionally draining mission. The ghost tests showed at first to be Captain Justice is on second analysis NOT, and a very crafty and very cruel villain is trying to hurt Noah as much as he can.2. Less-Than-LethalNoah pride himself on his ability to bring down enemies will little damage to them with his arsenal of justice grenades. But during his last battle something went wrong with the electric blast and his opponent was nearly cooked-or perhaps not so nearly depending on how dark the GM wants to play it.Noah recruits the PCs to investigate how a faulty and dangerous grenade got mixed up in his supply. The PCs can approach the investigation in a variety of ways. They can examine the grenade itself, check the scene of the disaster, interview Noah's support team in the hopes of uncovering a traitor, or check his armory to see if they can uncover evidence of a break in and switch.
Does anyone have pointers for how to design a good superhero costume?
>>47352730The GM can have whoever they want be the man behind the accident, but it is suggested that the PCs uncover the truth that Noah's support team has been going against his wishes to use all American weaponry and started buying the parts for his justice grenades from a Spanish company called "Soft Power" which specializes in non-lethal weaponry. Whether the support team started buying from Soft Power to cut corners or because they believed Soft Power produces the best gear and only wanted the best for Captain Justice depends on how villainous the GM wants the support staff to be.The discovery of Soft Power behind the faulty grenade may mean case closed, but the GM can complicate the plot if he so wishes. Soft Power is ran by the controversial Nicolas "Nick" Annacio. Annacio believes that his effective non-lethal weapons can revolutionize combat by making it something in which no one has to die, and he is pushing politically for Spain and then the rest of the world to ban all weapons except for his own. Needless to say he's controversial. Hes hated by weapon manufacturers, people that believe his plan is doomed to backfire spectacularly when someone imagines up a way or device to counter his catalog of weapons, and people that believe he's simply a man looking for a huge monopoly and using the idea of zero-casualty conflict as an emotionally manipulative selling point.How much Nick truly believes in the cause of "Soft Power" is up the GM, as is how involved he was in the accident. He will insist Soft Power is being set up by his enemies, and he may be right. Having one of America's favorite capes hospitalize an opponent due to one of his faulty weapons is publicity so bad it may sink the entire country. Nick may even be desperate enough to try and cut a deal with the PCs. If they keep mum about the connection between the accident and his company he'll set them up all the resources and money of Soft Power
>>47352895It depends on what sort of tone and mood you're trying to capture. What's stylish for one type of game might appear corny in another.In Cape World the two major sources of superhero fashion are Germany which favors a very subdued practical aesthetic. Think Grant Morrison X-men or Animal man. This is because culturally they're trying to push back against Nazi-era capes which dressed like over the top Wagnerian Opera characters. They clash with Brazil which favors a flamboyant Carnivale flavor. They like capes to be colorful, loud, and larger-than life. They favor bikinis and masks and feather headdresses.Basically the two countries represent two extremes. They represent "anything goes" silver and golden age (In Supergods Grant Morrison claimed Alan Scott has the most flamboyant costume, easily beating out anything Libarace would wear) and the short-jacket and belt look of the bronze and modern age.Fun fact, Grant Morrison says the best superhero costume of all time was Wally West's Kid Flash uniform. Make of that what you will. No capes!
>>47352937Of course, if there is in fact no conspiracy then the PCs just got saddled with gear from an incompetent manufacturer...which may be what the GM wants. Anyone remember Hellboy? "Another fine Zinco produce".Simply having the problem be Soft Power messing up can prove to be more interesting than a conspiracy. The PCs will have to decide how best to handle the situation. Some that side with Nick's philosophy might try to find some way to salvage the company once the news breaks. Some might even lie for Nick provided he promises no more accidents.If the GM wants to be be particularly devious he can decide that there is a conspiracy-and Nick is in charge of it. He wants to win over the public from his enemies, and what better way to do that than by being the victim of a conspiracy and having popular American heroes bail him out? It also decrease the likely hood of fallout from accidents in the future. Who is to say that another faulty Soft Power product wasn't rigged yet again to fail by the competition?3. Expanding LegaciesThings appear to be going well for the PCs one day...but then suddenly a group appears in front of them that claims to be "them, but without the legacy". The group matches the PCs in powers, abilities, and skills and possibly even appearance. Think of them as the "psycho rangers" or "Crime Syndicate" version of your PC's team, except they aren't really evil. They don't want to kill the PCs or conquer the world. They simply want the PCs to stand down as heroes and let their own group take over in their place. They claim to want this because the PC's are "problematic" and they themselves are not. The PCs are heroes. The PCs are symbols, and if there is something dark in their backstory they are sending a bad message to the public at large whether they intend to be doing so or not.
>>47353016>This is because culturally they're trying to push back against Nazi-era capes which dressed like over the top Wagnerian Opera characters.Now there's a question. Who were some of the members of the Third Reich's Übermensch Gesellschaft ("Superman Society")? There was passing mention of certain names like "Son of Siegfried" and "Odin."
From our various HU games so far here's what I had or had fun thinking about it-An operator with limb transformation (blade, guns, drill, anything you could think of), fire expulsion and hardened skin. He started with only his limb transformation and unlocked the two other power by various ways (the other players where overpowered, it was the GM way to get me back in the game). At some point he had his left arm cut off in a fight and we put a custom sniper that could channel his fire powers as a replacement. He could also fly by making rockets with his legs, using fire blasts to take off and landing was not a problem with his natural armor rating akin to a tank. Pretty fun character to play.-Russian martial artist with darkness manipulation, clones (2 to 9 depending on the level) like multiple man. Each clone had one of the many powers of shadow manipulation (blade, trap, cloak, armor, etc) and the hero had them all. In the end fighting was a clusterfuck of actions as I was outnumbering my fellow players and the ennemy and I do not want to remember the initiative rolls. A versatile character, not overpowered in the setting but fun to play with except at night because of the ton of bonus multiplied by the number of clones and if it wasn't dark enough I could always create the darkness in a bubble around me.-A natural genius, basically Ozymandias for Watchmen. Had it all stated but I never got to play it. Enhanced intelligence, body language perception, peak human condition, healing/combat trance, analytic mind, etc. I wanted some challenge, playing a non mutant, power imbued hero.-Physical structure alcohol. No need to say more, it was just the iceman but rather than turning into ice, it turned into alcool. He could make someone go drunk and pass out in seconds with his breath and lit people on fire after soaking them. Just a stupid idea that should never have been played.
>>47353257Of course, the effectiveness of this story hook depends on how much "dirt" is in the past of each character. The story hook is designed to put characters through the same struggles Captain Justice had with his foe Legacy, so it is expected they have "dirt" similar to his. It is assumed that the PCs have done nothing wrong personally, but instead have "wrong" legacies. One of their fathers was a criminal for instance. But for added moral complexity the GM may choose to give THE LEGACY TEAM more of a point than Legacy had with Captain Justice. Maybe one of the PCs used to be a villain. Maybe one of PCs killed a man.The GM may be tempted to spring a sudden revelation on one of the PCs about his past. "Your grandfather is really Captain Holocaust the Nazi Ubermensh!" If the GM chooses to do so he should be sure to clear it with the player beforehand.To make the story more like a mystery have the "sudden revelation" be met with skepticism and investigation. Who told Team Legacy about the PCs pasts? Where are they getting their information? It may all be planted information left by an enemy of the PCs looking for a cheap way to demoralize them.Regardless of why Team Legacy appears once they have appeared CAPTAIN JUSTICE will arrive to help the PCs having sensed the hand of his old rival LEGACY at work. He will advise the PCs to rise to the challenge of their rivals with grace and civility. He will advise them that they should be glad there are more heroes to help the common weal and that the competition between their teams could result in everyone improving their game.TEAM LEGACY are not "bad guys" and shouldn't be treated as such. They want to catch the bad guys before the PCs and they want to be the ones chosen by the cops to apprehend the super baddie holed up on the warehouse, but the worst they will do is cause a social media campaign against the heroes calling for them to resign because of their legacies.
>>47353351Whoever they are they need to be big and loud. Super SS officers with skull shaped shoulder pads. A guy with big regal cape and an enormous Swastika on his chest. The obligatory sexy as hell Valkyrie.Odin I'm seeing as a guy with one of his eyes replaced by a red orb with a Swastika that shoots energy ray and wielding a spear that projects waves of energy with each swing. He can do the Midnighter thing where he can see all the outcomes to a fight before it goes down (representing the mythological Odin's knowledge of everything). He fights with two flying warriors dressed all in black from head to toe as his wing men, Hugin and Mugin.Son of Siegfried is probably some kind of super actor who stared in films before Germany invaded Poland. He's probably the most "innocent" of the Gesellschaft, not fully "getting" the scope of Nazi atrocities. He has an extremely romanticized view of combat and his handlers keep him away from the worst scenes of the war in the hopes of keeping his moral up.Dresses in an elaborate Siegfreid costume, maybe one he acted in when he was a performer. He likes to challenge Allied capes to one on one combat. Power wise he wields magical swords gathered from throughout the world by Hitler's Volund project that grant him a variety of powers, but whether they are the actual swords or copies remains to the discretion of the GM. In universe his collection of swords is a common "unsolved mysteries" topic. He wielded three, Gram, Balmung, and Nothung. These are code names taken from names given to the mythological Siegfried's sword. What these swords really were no one knows.This can easily tie into the story of the Connecticut Statesmen that wanted to master all swords.As for why he's called "Son of Siegfried" and not "Sigurd" its probably because Goebbels knew the Siegfried name would have more impact. "Siegfried Line" and all that.
>>47353980How about Japanese WW2 capes? Any ideas for them?
Just about done with Captain Justice. Any questions or comments about his write up?Who would you like to see written up next? I'm trying to focus on guys with short write ups in the Statesmen Directory first before moving on to more developed characters like Black Minster II and Fisher-Girl.Some thoughts so far:Pitt Fighter is an old mecha-fight champion. He won the 1985 armor battle championship in Japan. His suit is relatively low tech, but it gives him several advantages. The AI is primitive, but its so primitive it can't be hacked.Pitt Fighter is getting on in years, and one of his story hooks is having the PCs convince him to find someone to pass the armor on to.Hoosier is going to be really fun to write up. I figure he's Knight Rider meets Speed Racer. His car is a super-car that has enough gadgets to put the Batmobile to shame. He's sort of intimidated by being on a team with such legendary and powerful people and while he doesn't want to be a bother he's eager to put on missions. Any ideas for cool vehicle powers?One of his story hooks is going to be about a grand race around the world, sort of like a super hero wacky races. Another will be about him recruiting the PCs to help him chase down stolen prototypes and doubles of his personal vehicle and offers the chance to give a PC an origin as a "Car Hero".What should Hoosier's car look like? A race car? Something retro?
>>47353980>The obligatory sexy as hell Valkyrie.Astrid ("divine beauty" in Old Norse) was one of the shining lights of the Übermensch Gesellschaft, the proverbial heart of the team. Her beauty and poise were one-in-a-million, her dignity knew no bounds, and her ferocity in combat was rarely equalled. Like Freya, the mythological queen of the valkyries, Astrid had a mystical cloak of feathers draped off her back that granted her flight. Combined with her mastery of arms, she was a screaming devil in the skies and on the ground, hurling blasts of radiant energy and cleaving foes with her enchanted blade. When she wasn't in combat, she was most commonly seen as Odin's arm candy. Whether she truly believed in the Fuhrer's message was anyone's guess.
>>47355446Astrid's final fate remains unknown. All that is known is a single phrase that commonly crops up any time she's mentioned, though what it ultimately means is anyone's guess.>She crossed an Amazon.tl;dr - Astrid is not-Hawkgirl done up as a valkyrie.
>>47355410>What should Hoosier's car look like? A race car? Something retro?If the answer is not "American muscle car," I'll be disappointed.
>>47355446>>47355466Wouldn't it be a hoot if a girl of Sweden and Germanic descent appeared out of Sweden claiming to be the granddaughter of Astrid?
I want to make a car.Thats a super hero.
>>47355733What's a car but an iron man suit on wheels?
>>47355559Oh that's nice. I think I'll give him something like the challenger from vanishing point. Has there ever been a team of heroes that use super cars? Because there should be.
>>47355914There were a couple super sentai teams where the gimmick was cars. They were not very popular.
>>47348041>>47348325>tfw Dançante or Virginia will win by a landslide over more quality heroines because of the normie massesSome people just can't appreciate beauty from under a cloak or the way the sun gleams off a skinny dipping cat or blue ab windows, I guess.
>>47355930I thought car rangers or whatever it was called was actually big in Japan?
>>47355951To be fair, Dançante has hot alien genes as well as home field advantage.
>>47355951I get the feeling that in a world with superheroes the average taste will tend to be a bit more /d/ than it is in ours
>>47355673Definitely sounds like a character that would tie into the larger themes of cape Germany. The powers that be in Germany would likely be leery of her and want her to stick to Sweden, but she wants to know all about her lineage and where Astrid and Odin came from. She might team up with Bucket Head trying to uncover the secrets of Nazi Fermany and having cute sexual tension with him.
>>47355733A guy in a super car zipping around on the ground like a fighter jet would be one hell of an opponent.Someone suggested there being a Thunderbirds style team in cape world. Glossier probably works for the company that makes their stuff. An American based company specializing in making super vehicles.
>>47356161Events probably went something like this.>Astrid was a Nazi superhero, unclear if she was an Amazon>Ends up getting accosted by an actual Amazon, who claims she's making them look bad>Gets shanghai'd to the Mystic Archipelago and forced to duel on the Amazon island>Amazon beats Astrid's ass, badly>Astrid is stripped of her armaments and equipment, sent back to the real world disgraced but alive>Never checks in with the Germans again>Two generations later, Astrid's granddaughter demands an Amazon audience>Arrives on the Mystic Archipelago>"To avenge my grandmother's honor and to reclaim her gear, 1v1 me irl no balls">Gets her duel>Impresses the Amazons>Reclaims most of Astrid's equipment>Repurposes it to "modernize" it>A new valkyrie soars the skiesHer official stance on her grandmother's activities would be, "Yeah, my grandmama was a Nazi superhero. Big fucking deal. I'm not her, and the Third Reich is dead."
What were post-WW2 and pre-Vietnam capes like? For that matter, were villains and heroes also drafted in Vietnam? That would be interesting to see Master Malicious fight next to Captain Justice in plainclothes.
>>47356593As mentioned during the initial Germany brainstorming, after WW2, there was a major boom of American "super patriots" that sported the Stars and Stripes and extolled American virtues. Germans were in complete reconstruction mode and had no immediately notably supers to speak of, and Japan didn't develop any of their own until the reconstruction started kicking in.
I have an idea for a Nazi super-duo, but it'll be...four hours before I can type it up...
>>47356715Give us the elevator pitch.
>>47356730A brother-sister team called Olympia, the pinnacle of Aryan perfection. They first appear at the 1936 Olympics, dominating the games. Your basic peak humans, flawless and beautiful, like German Captains America.Secret twist could be one of a few things that I've been kicking around. The one I like so far is that they're actually clones and they tend to go defective. Their spotty war history is due to their handlers constantly having to put one pair down when they inevitably go insane. The final pair disappeared shortly after it was discovered they had begun a sexual relationship with one another and were trying to breed their own race of Ubermenschen outside of anyone's control.They could still be out there.
>>47356593Vietnam may or may not have been a thing. The Korean War got so hot with super involvement that Korea is still dealing with the fallout. It was the Cuban missile crisis times ten. It's likely America simply didn't involve themselves in this time line when Vietnam went red. Vietnam as the "gritty quagmire war" still has so much cultural baggage that it needs to be used in some extent. Maybe make it and Afghanistan proxy wars USA and ussr fought in space or weird dimensions. Making space Vietnam could play up the "Joe alone in a rice paddy" aspect of Vietnam and add an interesting dimension to winning "hearts and minds". What can capitalism and communism matter to alien civilizations?
>>47356862Real life geopolitics should still have an influence on this setting. Vietnam was still a thing, and it still sucked shit.
>>47356846Some might call magical realm on the idea but I like it. Very creepy, and there could still be clones out in the world trying to live a normal life. Some might live a comfortable existence in Germany on government pay in exchange for not saying a word about who they are and what they can do and promising not to have kids ever (the last thing the government wants as a growing population of super Aryans)
>>47356919Plot hooks could go a couple ways. The obvious is that the duo makes their play and their children, say, capture Berlin and there PCs have to deal with the hostage crisis.More interesting would be if the PCs are contacted by one of the children because someone is targeting and killing the clones. Do the PCs help? Is it ethical to save the lives of Aryan superclones who were bred solely to replace humanity, only because they promise they simply want to be left alone and live their lives?Other twist could be that they weren't human at all. Maybe they're alien, or magic, or robots...
>>47356846>Super Aryan twins who are so devoted to creating the ultimate race that they go crazy, get heavily into incest, and escape into the wildThey'd be bonkers enough to do it. Now that would be a serious black mark upon Germany until the twins are found and brought to justice.Now we have to consider how the Übermensch Gesellschaft was dismantled. We know that Astrid was silently beaten and disgraced by the Amazons, but what happened to Odin and Son of Siegfried?
>>47356886Why not do both? Proxy wars trying to sway alien cultures to capitalism and communism (what would the chromen think?) and a war in Vietnam that saw very little superhuman presence-officially-because of the treaties written up following korea.Could this work? Limiting the power in Vietnam could enhance the grit of the setting.Also, what if America won in Cape world?
>>47357024>More interesting would be if the PCs are contacted by one of the children because someone is targeting and killing the clones.I think the Olympia incest clones would be the only surviving clones of their project, only because they escaped while all other clones waiting in the wings were liquidated as the war wound down.
>>47357035Odin (shouldn't it be Wodin though since that's his name in the Twilight of the Gods but feel free to correct me) or Son Of Siegfried might've been beaten by one of the first Robot Heroes to arise after the war. specifically an event that revealed the first robot hero to BE a robot, rather than a straight up superhuman. Though what i got from it is that Son of Siegfried might be the least "evil" out of the bunch, especially considering how he was kept away from the more vivid atrocities of the 3rd Reich.
>>47357035>Son of Siegfried You know that guy that handed the Connecticut sword statesman his ass when he tried to threaten his family? That's him. He's living a quiet life trying to forget about the war.Odin I figure as the token mean old evil bastard of the team. It would be nice if he wa still around Red Skull or Zemo stuyle, because you always need one immortal Nazi in a cape universe. Alternatively a bunch of Russian capes killed his ass during Stalingrad.
>>47357091Odin was the ultimate Third Reich patriot and would be a Nazi to his last.Astrid knew intimately of the Nazi horrors but likely didn't agree with it.Son of Siegfried straight up didn't know and was kept in the dark.
Haven´t contributed in a bit, so here is something of a new idea for you guys. Just ignore it, if you don´t like it.Richard Fernhand - a sorceror in his seventies during world war II. He specialized in illusions, which he constantly used to fight the nazis, particularly being fond of various depictions of owls, until the russians invaded and Richard began to fight both the nazis and the axis, not wanting to see civilians suffer anymore, under the name Eulenherr.
>>47357219Have him stationed with the French resistance. You know they have to have taken down at least one member of the Gesellschaft themselves.
>>47357125>Odin I figure as the token mean old evil bastard of the team. It would be nice if he wa still around Red Skull or Zemo stuyle, because you always need one immortal Nazi in a cape universe. Alternatively a bunch of Russian capes killed his ass during Stalingrad.Definitely a number of German supers would fall at Stalingrad. As for Odin himself, consider this: there are 42 - yes, forty-two - recorded assassination attempts on Hitler himself. What if Odin fell for one of them?
>>47353544Team Legacy might challenge (or the PCs might challenge them) to some "friendly" competition in high-publicity Super MMA or other such "super games" to show the public who really is the most efficient super team. But the story be about fighting Team Legacy physically. It should be about the PCs proving to themselves and others that they are heroes regardless of their backgrounds and are worthy of respect. Beating Team Legacy in a fight or saving them from a bad guy can be satisfying conclusions to the story, but so can proving the team wrong and teaming up with them to beat a bad guy.4. High Noon in a Land Without TimeA storm is coming. The forces of Echidna and the Star-Demons marshal to make a push into the heart of the Dreaming. If they're successful Uluru will crumble to powder, Rainbow Serpent will die, and the Thought Storm will be stilled. And the Dreaming itself will belong to them and will be used to spread across and infect every corner of the 3 Earths. Alien God Killer and his cosmic level allies are preparing to fight back the invasion.This is the big one. Even Alien God Killer might not survive the fight.And he's offered Noah Moore the opportunity to saddle up and ride with him into battle just as the first Captain Justice did. He warns Noah that there is no shame in refusing, and that he is likely to die in the fighting, but if he wants someone by his side in what might be his final battle Alien God Killer wants Captain Justice.Noah, always a fan of hopeless causes and tradition, agrees.The PCs might notice Noah acting unlike himself. He's distracted. He's getting in touch with people he hasn't talked to in years. He's been trying to find ways to make himself more powerful, particularly in the mystic and super-science arts. He might come to the PCs for tutoring.
>>47357219>>47357233>>47357285Here's a thought. How is Hitler in Cape World? In DC he had the spear of destiny and it was the reason DC capes (even the Spectre) didn't just steamroll his ass. In Marvel the first Human Torch fried him like a chicken. Something cool is always happening with Hitler.Does Hitler have a battlesuit like in Wolfenstein 3D?
>>47357437Maybe he was one of the best occultists of his era? How would he have gotten a battlesuit anyway - salvaged or stolen atlantean tech?
>>47357385When the PCs learn the truth behind his actions they can respond to it in several ways. They can try to talk him out of it, supporting him in the effort, or even try to convince him to take them along as his posse.IMPACTCaptain Justice is a low impact hero. He's just a simple an polite crime fighter, but even so he's an inspiration to many people. He's a little man that represents big ideas. He represents that a man can become more than a man through accepting the burden of history, good and bad. He represents that a man can find common ground with even the strangest of gods. He represents, as Captain Justice always represents, "That all men are equal before God and Justice".2 Down 48 more to go! Thinking about Doing Hossier next, because super cars, but I'm willing to write up someone else. As usual comments and criticism are greatly appreciated.
>>47357483Is there a legion of Super Hitler clones? Would provide a fun twist on Hitler's 42 assasination attempts. Most of them did work. But they just got another Hitler out of storage. Or maybe Hitler has some degree of super invulnerability and luck control? Protective hexes?
>>47357483Hitler was a regular dude with big guns.
>>47357595There was an imposter warlock Hitler, too, so he may have dabbled in that as well.
>>47357611Hitler's final form - after you gibbed him into a messy red puddle of gore - was a head-in-a-jar attached to a battlemech suit.This was Wolfenstein Hitler, so make of that what you will.
>>47357629Although, in the 2009 reimagining, Mecha-Hitler was a fair bit more low-key.
Next thread should continue with WW2 and Nazi discussion.We shouldn't forget the Nazi's allies Italy and Japan. How were their capes?Also, Mussolini was way more of a comic book character than Hitler.Also, I see the Olympia think having potential to like a modern day fairy tale. Poor clone kids adopted by kindly couples after the war have to hide from their real and crazy parents who see them as mistakes needing to be "corrected". Special cameo appearance by Drussenmann.
>>47355914two that come to mind;MASKhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgV-xWPECLcJayce & The Wheeled Warriorshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14C9hySGfWw
>>47357629Let´s just combine the three for our hitler....Man, that sounds kind off wrong.Anyway, Hitler, the megalomaniac behind world war 2 was a man often seen fighting with a pair off guns against the vermin of the other countries, named by him as Modi and Magni. However, against particular strong enemies he tended to use occult hexes and other magic in accordance with them. So great was his ability, that he was able to escape over forty assasination attempts. It is rumoured that his subordinate Odin sacrificed himself when the 41st assasination attempt was made. Nobody had ever been able to confirm it.Hitler himself was seemingly killed during the 42st attempt. His wife had him rebuild as a cyborg with human head and robot body, until they both killed themselves at the war´s end.Stupid or workable?
>>47357792Its workable.I sort of like including the idea from the Hellboy movie that Hitler carried on a shadow war until like the 1970's when he was finally, finally finished off in secret. Maybe....Could Hitler be A manifestation of Overlord Darkness?
>>47357563>>47357595>>47357611>>47357629You know, Hitler is the one thing I like to keep the same. He was simply the leader Germany wanted at the time, the man who could pull together the people - including those who knew about supertech, robotics, mysticism, and so forth. But what's most scary is that he's just human.
>>47357792honesty I'd prefer if Hitler was just a charismatic man who knew how to get powerful people to follow his lead, much like in real life.though if you had to give him a superpower why not some form of spider sense? one that worked for social dangers as well as real life ones so he knew just what to say to convince supers to go along with his plans even if they didn't want to at first.>>47357906what this guy said.
>>47357906Cape world would actually stand out from DC and Marvel if Hitler was just a dude that didn't have any cool beats with any super characters.Super-powered Hitler stand ins seems like too good of an idea to waste though. PCs try to pull an Inglorious Bastards just to find that its not Hitler, its Odin in disguise.
>>47357960You could have it be a "blessing" by his Thule magicians that makes him inordinately lucky against assassination attempts.
>>47357960Well, if everyones fine with it, I would do your charismatic hitler for capeworld and the cyborg thingie for maybe an alternate universe.But yeah, charismatic hitler sounds just as scary and dangerous if not more. That spider-sense should be worked in though. Charismatic or not. He had 42 assasination attempts on himself.
>>47356862>>47356886>>47357053personally I assume that while the US did send Supers into Vietnam, they mostly used low and medium tier ones, ones powerful enough to make a difference, but not powerful enough to potentially cause incidents like in Korea
>>47357906>>47357960This is fine. Hitler was Hitler, and he was in charge of one of the most dominant forces of evil the world has ever seen.
>>47358041*meant we could not I would... damn it.
>>47357847>Could Hitler be A manifestation of Overlord Darkness?as Overlord Darkness' creator I'm going to have to veto that idea for a bunch of different reasons, although several of his earlier organizations did have former Nazis among them, and at least one OD incarnation did use heavily Nazi imagery, oddly enough though OD often claims that version was an imposter, but not consistently enough for that to be considered verifiable
>>47358045I was asking more about the draft. One could assume that many villains dodged it, but what of the ones that couldn't or wouldn't. I'm imagining a Black Ops squad of low-mid tier villains.
>>47358236That could be a cool game idea. Vietnam suicide squad.
New thread when?
>>47358236personally I assume that having Super Powers is actually one way to be exempt from the draft, kinda figure the US government realized that forcibly making someone who can throw a truck like a baseball serve in the Army would be a bad idea, much easier to convince them to serve of their own free will(the United States Military has one of the most generous benefits packages to Supers who join up of any nation besides perhaps the official Korean government for this very reason)>>47358318soon I imagine
New thread ?
>>47358386How would you be able to explain it when your secret identity is in jeopardy? 20 year-old ex-quarterback Jim is exempt from the draft despite qualifying in every way? I wonder if he's that villain Black Bull?The only way to avoid that is going for the draft.
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>>47358386Maybe a sort of pardon program? Like you serve x amount of years in the military and some of your past crimes get pardoned off or your prison sentence lessened. Or there might be some particularly patriotic and insane villains that might be coerced to fight.
>>47358457I figure there would be deferent standards for heroes and villains. Heroes are courted into the military. Criminals are drafted. Nam was mostly fought by super crimsons drafted into service.
>>47357563a story i always wanted to mess with is yeah there are a bunch of hitler clones. but they are by no means the exact psychological duplicate.So there's an island off the coast of brazil. filled with hitlers, and a little hitler society. but because of not having been grown up/raised the same way and not told "You were the ubermensch" they're basically... mostly normal people? A moral quandry arises. to you execute all the hitler clones because they're hitler? even if they don't show any signs of being super evil themselves?