> Saturday, June 27th, 2015SITUATION: http://pastebin.com/ziMsX6thMECHANICS: http://pastebin.com/49M2eE8ZTHE RULES: http://pastebin.com/BEsprkBZTHE TANK: http://pastebin.com/sJsgig6BTHE DIVISIONS: http://pastebin.com/xCQZAdqU“Everyone clear on the plan?” asks Griselda. The now six-crew strong team has assembled by LGA’s reserved spot in the Spectator’s Fair, where all of you were sitting on tables eating food and drinking as much water as possible (it gets incredibly hot and sweaty inside of a tank, hydration is important). You all nod, shrug, or just remain quiet with no questions. “… M’kay. Well, if anyone has any questions, refer to me or refer to Elodie.”Regina Taney, the leader of the new crew “Naval Studies Rescue” leans over towards you. “Do you happen to know how to assemble two-piece ammunition in the IS-2?”Iris raises a finger as well. “How do you propose the Churchill climb up the left flank to overlook Route 15? Did you want us moving towards that location quickly or should we just take our time? I don’t imagine we’ll be very fast.”“Can we discuss how FUCKING AWESOME US armor is?! The M26 Pershing, the M4A3E8s, all that jazz!?” asks Patton. Suvorov looks at her gunner strangely. “What!? You’re the Napoleonic one, you shouldn’t even know what the fuck tanks are!”Winona browses her phone as she sits next to you, smirking. “A couple of guys on the Skycraft team wanted to know if you’re single~!” she says in a singsong manner. OH YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT FUCKING QUESTION AND SHE SURE AS HELL DOES TOO.> Answer everyone’s questions, they did ask you after all.> Point to Griselda, she said to refer to her first.> Other
>>47234963>Have Gris-Gris handle Regina and Irina while Elodie answers Patton and Winona.
>>47234963>> Point to Griselda, she said to refer to her first.
>>47234963Support this >>47235035
> OtherYou point to Griselda. “Regina, Iris. Go to her.” They both nod, quickly moving on over. “Patton, uh, we could probably discuss American armor some other time?” Patton nods, brushing her skirt down happily as she awaits her turn. “And as for you, Winona-““I’m already texting them that you have a boyfriend.” Winona, please. “His name is Oliver.” Winona, PLEASE. “And he’s a big strong man, who’s strong, loud, fast, and delightfully British!” PLEASE, WINONA. She holds up her phone.“I swear to God, if you send that, I will kill you,” you say.“Aw, it’s fine!” She raises the text, smiling smugly. You roll your eyes. Honestly.--With the Q&A done, you and your crew are exploring around the Spectator fair. Seeing as how this is stateside, a lot of people have come around, probably from nearby cities like New York, Philadelphia, Boston, and all others in the New England area. “Alright.” Winona rubs her hands, taking a deep breath. “We’re the boss, we’re the boss, we’re the boss, we’re the boss right here!”“Nervous?” asks Stack as she chews into some pink fluffy cotton candy.“No, hell no!” says Winona. “I just gotta psyche myself up a bit!” She bounces in place, pressing her lips together. “Yeeee, we’re gonna do this! We’re gonna do this!”Ingrid says, “You look nervous.” Winona turns her nose away from Ingrid haughtily. “Just saying.”[1/2]
>>47235439[2/2]Josephina taps your shoulder, getting your attention. “Elodie. Is that who I think it is?” All five of you turn your eyes to see.Standing at one of the booths, dressed in a gray bomber jacket topped with the Heinlein crest on the sleeve, mixed with a white blouse and black shorts is a tanned girl with black wavy hair. She matches the photo alright. She folds her arms, waiting for her turn at one of the Fair’s attractions, an airgun range. “Yep,” you say. “Dix Hauser.”“Huh, smaller than I expected,” says Stack.“You’re one to talk,” says Ingrid. Stack nudges her, silencing Ingrid.As she waits, she turns her head, then sees the five of you standing there like a bunch of idiots. “Well, howdy!” she says happily. She waves you all over. “I’ve seen ya before!” She holds out her hand to you. “I’m Dix. You and me are fighting this afternoon. Y’all look pretty sharp in those uniforms of yours, compared to mine.” She tugs on the leg of her shorts, exposing a bit of her thighs. “I’d honestly prefer those skirts, way more airy. So what’s up with y’all? I wanna know more about you in particular uh…" She seems to have trouble remembering your name. "... Melody? Am I close?"> Boast> Neutral> Polite
>>47235455>> PoliteClose enough, Dix.
>>47235512THE CUTEST TANK EVER MADE
>>47235455> PoliteI'm posting with my name today, why not. Also I have two surprises for you anons today, you're very lucky.
> Polite“Elodie,” you correct her gently. “My name is Elodie, Dix. So, yeah, you were close.”“Ah!” She thumps her head with her fist, sticking her tongue out. “My bad, Elodie! But yeah, listen, I’ve caught wind of your accomplishments, even hear that Griselda is having a good time too. Actually, Griselda is partially why I’m here.”“What, really?” you ask. Really? What did Griselda do?“I was in Middle School last year, saw Griselda on the big screen duking it out in the ITL. She had some rough starts I think, but I think she’s a good commander.” She tugs your sleeve brings you closer, smirking at you. “Between you and me, I’m actually kind of honored to be facing a Pool. It’s not often you get to do this kind of stuff in Tankery. Don’t tell her I said that.”“Noted,” you say. You look to your crew. “Oh, um, this is my crew. Winona.” Winona smiles, nodding. “Ingrid, Stack.” Ingrid and Stack nod as well, smiling politely. “And Josephina.” Josephina as well nods, towering completely over Dix.“Wow!” Dix looks up at Josephina, making her blush intensely and look away. “You’re a big unit!”“U- um, th- merci?” says Josephina confusedly.Dix folds her arms. “Well, it’s nice to see you, Elodie. Tell Griselda I look forward to facing her.” Dix checks her watch, and her eyes widen. “Aw, nuts. I gotta check in with some of my crews. Have some fun before the match, alright?” She bounces past the lot of you. “The tanks are gonna be real sad if y’all are sad, that’s how it goes!” And with that, she jogs away.Winona nudges you. “So, you’re the boss. Where do you want to go?”> Find some people at the bleachers.> Go find Griselda.> Have some fun in the fair.> Other
>>47235813> Find some people at the bleachers.
>>47235813> Have some fun in the fair.
>>47235791How gay is it ?
>>47235813>Go find Griselda.
>>47235813> Have some lewd at the fairSchteel, answer me on twitter so I know whether I can post tanks or not.>>47235897As gay as five girls jammed into a hot, sweaty compartment for hours on end.
>>47235897As gay as two tank turrets touching.
>>47235951oi, no lewds allowed
>>47235967This lewd enough for ya?
>>47236106Which reminds me which is stronger? A 75mm American or a 6 pounder British?
>>47236189The 6 Pndr (57mm) is actually stronger in the armor-penetrating capability. The American 75mm M3 was designed for more all around HE and AP capability, which the 6 Pndr does not have (HE rounds were kind of meh in lower calibers.)
>>47236189Well, a 6 pounder is something like 57mm, so theoretically the 75mm. However, the 6pdr was primarily an AT gun while the 75mm was, iirc, a primarily HE-firing cannon.So basically, Elodie's cannon has more force when firing, but Griselda's is a bit larger and fires more... explosively.
>>47236230>>47236272You're saying the pounder is on top?
> Have some fun in the fair.--“Aw, lookitthelittlegoat!” Winona and even Ingrid are mesmerized by the fair’s own little Panzer Pets. They petted the little beast on its hairy little head as it chewed on some grass. All that was really getting to you though was the smell. Jesus fucking Christ it smelled like something died and got shat out the end of an elephant in this petting zoo. How do children stand this!? “Heee! He’s chewing on grass, what a little numpty!”Stack and Josephina however were busy playing around with a pig rolling around in dirt. Stack especially was taking it kind of… “Stack!” you call. “Y- you don’t need to roll around in the mud with the pig!”“Aw, don’t be such a buzzkill!” Stack wipes some mud off of her face, grinning happily. Her uniform, everything on her looks dreadful.“Stack-“ Ugh, you’ll just get her a new uniform before the match starts. You check your watch.Oh shit, it starts in an hour.“Elodie!” You look over to see Denise rolling towards the petting zoo fence in her Kettenkrad. Oh, salvation, thank you. You run on over, leaning on the fence towards her. “Elodie! I made it to your match!” She gives you a thumbs up. “Hehe!” She looks over to see your crew busy dirtying themselves up by playing with animals. “What’s with the-“A cow moos as it comes towards you. “Er- that’s- let’s not talk about it.” You hear it chewing loudly in your ear as it breathes over your shoulder. Um. A little privacy?“Well, I just wanted to say Good luck and have fun, or as they say in the Starcraft scene uh…” She reaches into her pocket and pulls out a phone. “… GL, HF!”> Boast> Neutral> Polite
>>47236288The 6pdr is more energetic and forceful on enemy armour.
Anyway since Schteel gave me the okay I'm going to give you your presents, anon: The command tanks for Gagetown and Heinlein!Now, some of you might notice that the art style is a little different from mine, and that's because these were done by a mate of mine. I did a little editing and put the crests on, but the actual tanks were his. Great guy.In any case, first we have Gagetown's command tank, a Firefly.
>>47236465Such sexy curves
>>47236491If you like curves, you ain't seen nothing yet. Because next we have Heinlein's Sherman Jumbo!
>>47236349>BoastI kinda want to see Elodie say something really stupid here that will bite her in the ass/embarrass her if they don't claim points of Heinlein. But will totally boost morale if they do lose
The further lewd adventures of Elodie and Griselda.
>>47236713stop itI SAID STOP IT
>>47236728Only when I run out of ideas to make shitty five minute edits.
>>47236230>>47236272I understand, still the 75mm M3 is better then the Qf 75mm gun though right?
> Boast“Uh, thanks Denise!” You snap your fingers, smiling at her. “But I won’t need luck. I got the best crew in the world, and we’re commanded by the younger sister of one of the most renowned tank commanders in the world. What could go wrong?”Denise flips through her phone. “Actually, it says here it’s 6 vs. 20.” Oh. “They’re deploying 5 Pershing’s today actually.” Oh. “Also, something about a really fast Jumbo tank, whatever that is?” OH. FUCK. “But hey, if you’re confident, I’m confident! I like that!”“Y-… yeah,” you say. “Thanks, Denise.”“I’m off!” She salutes, then speeds away.… oh fuck.--You meet at the stage. Instead of a big railway gun carriage serving as the big screen TV, a more dedicated platform for a variety of TVs was built for the Tankery matches in North America. You six commanders of LGA stand across from the twenty that will be facing you.Griselda leans closer to you. “I’m so sorry, I would’ve thought Dix had been sporting.”“It’s fine,” you whisper. “Not the first time we’ve had to be outnumbered.”“Yeah, in a flag battle!” Griselda grits her teeth, tapping her foot incessantly.> “Look, we’ll do our best. You just lead us.”> “Don’t worry, I’ll carry us.”> “Let’s just go this over with.”> Other
>>47237024>> “Look, we’ll do our best. You just lead us.”>We have a good plan, the commanders are the key and if we can take out as many of their good tanks as we can, we'll have a better chance at the flag match.
>>47237024> “Look, we’ll do our best. You just lead us.”
>>47237024>“Uh, thanks Denise!” You snap your fingers, smiling at her. “But I won’t need luck. I got the best crew in the world, and we’re commanded by the younger sister of one of the most renowned tank commanders in the world. What could go wrong?”>>Denise flips through her phone. “Actually, it says here it’s 6 vs. 20.” Oh. “They’re deploying 5 Pershing’s today actually.” Oh. “Also, something about a really fast Jumbo tank, whatever that is?” OH. FUCK. “But hey, if you’re confident, I’m confident! I like that!”THIS IS WHY ELODIE DOESN'T INTO CONFIDENT> Other"Come what may, you can count on all of us to perform our very best. Do not sell us short, and we might just surprise you.".
>>47236862I will fully admit that I am biased, but I think that (at least in Tankery) the 6pdr is overall superior to the 75mm.
>>47237024>“Look, we’ll do our best. You just lead us.”
>>47237024>>47237074True, but every once in a while I'd like to see her have a lapse in judgement. That and I hoped that we could have our own Anglerfish Dance moment. To soften her up a bit. Another day perhaps.I'll back this though, in addition to adding.>I have faithTo give Gris-Gris a little bit of calm to her. Seeing as we're a bundle of nerves.
>>47237100Eh maybe to the QF 75mm, but the American 75mm M2/M3, had superior armor penetration at least at 100 meters.
>>47237155As I said, biased. Comet-chan is my waifu.
>>47237192But iirc that is not a QF 75mm but is a QF 77mm do where does the 6 pounder come into play>?
>>47237242Anon, please. I as explaining I was biased towards the 6pdr (though I still believe it's slightly superior) because of my affection for British tanks.
>>47237192Mah NiggerComet Tank best Tank.
>>47237293But the British Tanks aren't that great though IIrc, at least the early cruisers weren't.
>>47237388You my nigga, 77mm of sex>>47237406Now listen here fucko, British tanks are great. Just look at this fucker, this was the fuckin' tank that held Africa.
> “Look, we’ll do our best. You just lead us.”“We’ll do our best, Griselda,” you say. “Just lead us. I have faith.”Griselda pouts at you. “You’re not making me feel confident.”You sigh. “Tell you what, if we lose, I’ll do something funny for you.” She squints at you. “… what, I can do funny stuff.” She continues to stare at you, skeptically. “That’s if we lose of course.”The Judges line up between your lineups. “This battle between Lafayette Girls Academy and Robert A. Heinlein Military Academy will be an Elimination Battle! Here are your starting lineups!”> LAFAYETTE GIRLS ACADEMY> Hometown: Norfolk, Virginia> Motto: “Dum vivimus, vivamus”> March: Lafayette Girls Academy March> Commander: Griselda Pool> **GRISELDA POOL (M4 Sherman – 75mm M3)> *ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Centaur I – QF 6-Pounder)> IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV – QF 6-Pounder)> “SUVOROV” (Panzer III Ausf. J – 50mm KwK 38 L/42)> SERAFINA MACZEK (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3)> REGINA TANEY (IS-2m – D-25T 122mm)> VS
>>47237508[2/2]> ROBERT A HEINLEIN MILITARY ACADEMY> Hometown: Charleston, South Carolina> Motto: “Exitus Acta Probat”> March: Dixie/Klendathu Drop> Commander: Diana “Dix” Hauser> **CPT. “DIX” HAUSER (M4A3E8 Sherman – 76mm M1 “Dutch”)> *SGT. “FRIAR” BENSON (M4A3E2 Sherman – 75mm M3 “Cobra King) (LEGENDARY)> CPL. “AUNTIE DOT” MURDOCH (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “San Quentin”)> CPL. “KITTY” DANSON (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Alcatraz”)> CPL. “BUTTERCUP” YELICH (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Atlanta”)> CPL. “ROSIE” STARK (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Attica”)> CPL. “BLUE” JACKSON (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Folsom”)> CPL. “SNOWIE” CUTHBERT (M45 Pershing – 105mm M4 “Rikers”)> *SGT. “DEE DEE” KASPEROFF (M4A3E8 Sherman – 76mm M1 “Buchanan”)> CPL. “SWEETUMS” TALBOT (M4A3E8 Sherman – 76mm M1 “Griswold”)> CPL. “STRIPESY” POSEY (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Trumbull”)> CPL. “LACEY” WILCOX (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Rucker”)> CPL. “POLKA DOTS” MCGEE (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Benning”)> *SGT. “RED” PULLER (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Nova”)> CPL. “ROCK” MORGAN (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Harvard”)> CPL. “REX” GAGE (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Hampton”)> CPL. “LEGS” SMITH (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Columbia”)> *SGT. “BLAST” HARDING (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “Alabama”)> CPL. “GRIZZLY” JENSON (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “North Dakota”)> CPL. “KODIAK” FENTON (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “Arizona”)“Let us begin the match at once!”Dix nods to you all. “Good luck, y’all! You’ll need it!”--Pffft, you’ll need it. You examine the map once more. Route 15 is a big chokepoint. Only real way around it is either over the big rises (not an option for the Pershings, at least not in timely fashion) or all the way around to the river. Both will be impractical, unless Dix proves herself to be patient.[2/3]
>>47237564[3/3]“Right, the idea is that one of us is bait,” says Griselda. “Elodie, assign someone to draw in Dix’s forces through Route 15. Wait for my mark.”> You> The IS-2> The Churchill IV> The Panzer III> The M26 Pershing
>>47237476Against the Italians maybe, but with the German Panzer III and even short barrel 75mm Panzer IVs were more then a match for it. Especially the 2 pounder variants. If your tank had to be replaced with america's stopgap (M3 Lee/Grant) and British crews enjoyed them more then tanks made by the motherland then you know it's not all that.
>>47237564We are going to lose so hard.
>>47237578>> YouYou guys, should have bought the camo for the Cromwell.
>>47237592No one wanted to buy upgrades, so that was our fault.
>>47237581The Lee was a good tank though. Not the best, but a perfectly acceptable tank until the US could get the flaws with the M4 ironed out.
>>47237578Based on the huge ridge, you'd think the Pershing would be decent bait, right? Forgive my ignorance, I can be convinced by a different option, if people explain it.>Pershing
>>47237643It was but I'm just saying that British tank development especially their cruiser branch was not very good, at least the early variants and your saying it held the line it Africa.It didn't. The M3 Lee/Grant, and the Lend Lease Shermans did..The Crusader was just a beating stick for the Italians.
>>47237653We're acting as bait the Pershng is relatively slow, iirc compared to the Cromwell. We just need a hit a run to lure the tanks into the ridge.
>>47237683In defense of British tank development, I'm going to point out that the Churchill tank was actually a perfectly serviceable tank in North Africa. It even scored the first kill against a Tiger I in the western front. In all other situations, it performed admirably as well.
>>47237683It was though, anon. The Crusader (and its other marks including the Coventer and pic related) were an important part of British tank development.
So, best guess, they'll lead with the Legendary Jumbo so our Ambush doesn't work.However, if we were to use our Gunners perk to score a mobility kill when the point is at its chokeiest....
>>47237752Well, we do have that nice skill that Winona has, maybe we'll see some use out of it today.
>>47237785Yeah, thats what I meant
>>47237728Yeah, but i didn't say anything bad about the Infantry branch of tank development, only cruiser. The Churchill, was an Infantry tank not a Cruiser tank.Also kill is debatable, it was more disabled then knocked out, since none of the rounds actually penetrated and only disabled the turret of the tiger iirc.>>47237733it's important sure (your shifting the goal posts), to show what not to do when developing a tank, (being slightly hyperbolic) However, it is true that Cruisers didn't held the line it was the Infantry tanks that held North Africa. Crusaders (at least the early variants) and other early cruisers, were so-so or not very good.Even the Coventer that you mentioned was never really used other then test trials. Is it important for British tank development, sure. But was it a good tank, not really considering the opposition.
>>47237578>YouPedal to the metal.
>>47237564As an aside, love the nicknames for everyone. The girls are going to need some nicknames at some point. Not just Stack and SuvarovPersonal favourites are Polka Dots and Sweetums
>>47237860My apologies anon, I didn't mean to shift any kind of posts. That post was meant to be an addendum. Indeed, the original post about the Crusader was mostly meant to be a joke! One you, uh, didn't get, clearly.Either way, British tanks are my waifus, how about we leave it at that?
>>47237952The nicknames were very much something to come up with. Stripesy, Lacey, and Polka Dots especially.
>>47237998>claims not to be lewd>writes stories about young nubile girls groping each other and calling each other lewd nicknames
>>47237960>Indeed, the original post about the Crusader was mostly meant to be a joke! One you, uh, didn't get, clearly.If that was the case, fine but when you mentioned that you held bias for British tanks and they are your 'waifu' then say they held North Africa.Kind of hard to pick out the joke.
> You“We’ll take the middle road and draw them in as best we can. Everyone know the plan?” you ask.“Yep!” says everyone.“Good. Let’s roll.” Your tank starts rolling up Route 15. “Josephina, cruise speed, I want to be able to stop on a dime.”“Oui!” she reports. You look down into the turret to see her leaning to the left to accommodate her somewhat excessive height. You motion to Ingrid, who leans over and lifts up her driver’s hatch. “Oh, merci beaucoup, Ingrid!”Stack readies an AP round between her arms. “Oh boy, being the bait!” Stack grins madly, bouncing in her seat. “Oh boy, oh boy, I love being the bait! We’ll bait them and outsmart them! Haha!” Winona as well bites her lip, ready in the gunner’s seat.Right, you’re going up Route 15 and about flying at a steady 40 miles an hour. As you come up to their side of the field though…> COMMAND POINTS: 53 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> TARGET WEAKPOINT: - 10 CP> Come to their side slowly and cautiously.> Speed on through, speed is armor.> Other>>47238036I'm like Mr. Diddles. I'm a champion at lewd but also ashamed of it. I have two watches on because it's always time to be lewd.
>>47237998Leaves little to the imagination, doesn't it.I kinda want Ellie to regain a nickname again. Only this time she'll have earned it And she'll have no right to complain if she earns it this weekend
>>47238063>Come to their side slowly and cautiously.
>>47238063>> Come to their side slowly and cautiously.The goal is to take out one of their commanders.
>>47238063> INTUITION: - 2 CPWe've got oodles of these points!
>>47238063> INTUITION: - 2 CPWe want to bring them in, and my instincts say slow, to give our team time to prepare the trap.
>>47238063>> Come to their side slowly and cautiously.> Come to their side slowly and cautiously.
>>47238063> Speed on through, speed is armor.
>>47238117Save them for the Magic shots. anon. Iirc they cost like 10 each.
> Come to their side slowly and cautiously.“Take us in cautiously now,” you declare. Oliver starts slowing down, his tracks clattering to a creeping pace. You lean on the back of the turret hatch, while Stack pokes her head out of the loader’s hatch, grinning happily. “Hey, who said you could turn out?”“I can’t wait!” Stack bounces up and down. Ugh, you can’t contain that enthusiasm.“This is Serafina!” You look back down the road. “Me and the IS-2 are in position at the end of Route 15!”“Me and Suvorov are still climbing,” says Iris.“Same,” says Griselda.Alright, fine. Hopefully they’re at least halfway. They should be halfway.But as you creep around the corner, you turn your head.To meet a wall of five Pershing tanks, with fifteen other US tanks behind them, no more than two-hundred meters away and closing fast.> COMMAND POINTS: 53 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> TARGET WEAKPOINT: - 10 CP> Deploy Smoke (3/3)> RUN> STAND YOUR GROUND> Other
>>47238434>Intuition -2The girls aren't ready. Can we take out one Pershing and start running with Smoke? Or is it too soon. Intuition help us.
>>47238434What? They just went STRAIGHT at us?Awesome.> TARGET WEAKPOINT: - 10 CPTrack the leading tank then get the hell outta there!
>>47238434> INTUITION: - 2 CP
>>47238434> TARGET WEAKPOINT: - 10 CP> RunTrack and Run
>>47238434>> INTUITION: - 2 CP
>>47238472>>47238551We can;t run, we have to buy time.We should use smoke to hide how many tanks there are.
>>47238480why the leading tank, this is not the position where we want to trap them.
I'm off to bed. Don't fuck up, anons.
>>47238652They're still in a relatively open area so they can still move around the disabled tank. Our team isn't in position yet so a quick shot to slow them down seems appropriate.
>>47238683yeah but smoke or standing your ground will do something well.
>>47238785Smoke doesn't really stop them and standing our ground against all that seems unwise.
> INTUITION: - 2 CP> TARGET WEAKPOINT: - 10 CP> RUN“Winona, hit them! Hit them hard!” The Six-Pounder fires. The shot disintegrates against the coaxial machine gun port of the lead Pershing, sending it rolling forward to a stop. The other tanks immediately plow and ram into the back of it, clueless of its status. “There’s our window, run, run, run!” The tank reverses back around the corner, then pivots around. “A little hustle, Josephina!”“I am trying!” she shouts. Once the tank is facing south, she immediately floors it and speeds Oliver down the route.“How’s everyone?” you ask. “Please tell me you guys are in position!”“The Churchill has arrived. Panzer III is still climbing.”“We’re still moving up the mountain, but you should be able to get a decent ambush set up!” says Griselda. Okay, okay, some things are going right.But you can’t help but be a little suspicious. There’s no way Dix would actually run all of her tanks into one area. Unless she plans on smashing you through sheer numbers alone.And in different directions. Oh Jesus, please don’t let that be a thing.> COMMAND POINTS: 41 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> TARGET WEAKPOINT: - 10 CP> Deploy Smoke (3/3)> Rally south with the Pershing and the IS-2> Rally west with the Churchill and the Panzer III> Rally east with the Sherman> Other
>>47238859> Rally east with the Sherman
>>47238859> Deploy Smoke (3/3)Smoke 'em!
>>47238899how and why?
>>47238859No stuns or problems from the tanks running into each other Schteel?>Rally with Griselda
>>47238859>Rally east with the ShermanThey're most likely going to flank West
>>47238946Agreed, they can probably get a few of their tanks down 554 and onto Skyline.
>>47238967Wouldn't surprise me if King Cobra is there
>>47238967Pretty sure they're going to split up on all 3 routes.
>>47239014Definitely a possibility, but I expect the most focus west, they have to cross Susquehanna to really get any purchase east, and that'll take a lot of time, unless of course they just say fuck roads and just ride the ridge until they hit Armstrong.
> Rally east with the Sherman“Griselda, we’re going to link up with you! Josephina, take a left onto Armstrong road now!” The Cromwell starts skidding to a halt, and you hear a very worrying grinding noise. The tank vibrates beneath you as it suddenly screeches to a halt to make this sharp left turn. “… what was that?”Stack nudges your leg, and you look down at her. “That was the suspension! Remember what Oleg said, it’s still pretty fragile even with all the improvements!” Ugh, when is that gonna get fixed! Hell, at least if you didn’t improve it you might’ve thrown the track altogether. And nobody wants that. With a left turn, you start riding up the high road up the mountain towards Griselda’s position. You pull out your binoculars, and look north northwest.And coming into view coming around the corner are four Pershings, in a flying V-formation down the road, followed by the Shermans. The Pershings turn their turrets up as you climb up the road. “Hug the ridge, Josephina!” She bears right, right as the Pershing’s start firing at you. Shots splat against the rocky ridge, shooting some debris down on your tank. Nothing it can’t handle, nothing it can’t handle, please handle it, Oliver for God’s sake.You take another look. You blink. That’s odd, you could’ve sworn the Chaffees were there when you saw them first.Fuck, wait, they must be taking a different route! “Griselda, the Chaffees aren’t taking Route 15!” You take another look. “And I don’t see Cobra King either, they must be flanking!”“I see it on the map, it’ll take them ages to get around, we can still beat them here!” says Griselda. “Iris, do you have a shot!?”“We do, firing.” The Churchill on the west ridge fires down, nailing a Pershing in the side of its turret.> KO: CPL. “ROSIE” STARK (M26 Pershing “Attica”)> KILL CREDITED TO: IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV)[1/2]
>>47239333[2/2]“First kill of the day,” says Iris.The Pershing’s hulking wreck slows to a crawl, forcing the other tanks to slow down in the chokepoint.But to your surprise, they start reversing and form a strange form of defensive line, kind of like chevrons or a zipper. They cover their engine blocks with each other’s, and angle their frontal armor at a slant relative southwards instead of directly facing either side. “Oh fuck, they were ready for this!” says Griselda.“We’re moving in!” says Serafina.> COMMAND POINTS: 41 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> TARGET WEAKPOINT: - 10 CP> Deploy Smoke (3/3)> Grab the shovels and start digging the tank in> Fire down at them, score as many kills as possible> Other> SERAFINA’S INITIATIVE: Move in and engage> Overturn? Y/N
>>47239353> INTUITION: - 2 CPFFFF
>>47239353> INTUITION: - 2 CP>OVERTURN SERAFINANO YOU WILL FUCKING HOLD FOR ONCE YOU FUCKING POLE SO HELP ME GOD
For those of you who might be wondering what Heinlein is doing, this is the basic rough visualization of it.
> Fire down at them, score as many kills as possibleDoesn't this remind you of the first battle of Girls und Panzer, trying to hold a hilltop against climbing enemy tanks?
>>47239353>INTUITION: - 2 CP>OVERTURN SERAFINA>>47239421We'll need to get behind them to do anything...
>>47239353> Fire down at them, score as many kills as possibleConcentrate on the smaller tanks! The hills prevent the Pershings from being too useful. Knock out the Shermans and whatever else.>OVERTURN SERAFINAGet back here!>>47239460Kinda similar yes.
>>47239353>Intuition -2CPYeah we're going to need Serafina active and ready for when that Flank comes in. So overturning seems wise.
>>47239353>Aim for the Commanders! Guys stick to the plan!>> SERAFINA’S INITIATIVE: Move in and engage>NGuys remember the plan, the commanders are the lynchpin of thegroup, take them out and then they will get antsy.
>>47239372>>47239392>>47239460>>47239463>>47239483>>47239483>>47239494FUCK, guys take out the rear tank. They can still run away if they reverse, TAkE out the rear tank to trap them. NOW!
>>47239353>Take out the rear tank and commanders, break trap them.> INTUITION: - 2 CP> Overturn? Y
>>47239569I don't think they intend to run.
>>47239599Better safe then sorry then. It's a insurance measure so they can't escape.Especially if we break their chain of command.
>>47239544Tricky thing is, there is only one commander in that pile, I agree that it's probably better to take the shots, but the Chafee's aren't there and I think the Scott's aren't either. I already voted intuition, buuuuuuuut.>>47239569You do raise an excellent point. They likely won't run, but when we have to because of the flank, we can try to stun the rear, at least, that's my thoughts on the matter. Never know what Intuition will do.
>>47239599>>47239569If anything, I think they're establishing a base of fire. An anvil for the Chaffees Hammer, if you will.
>>47239353>>47239483Brief amendment to my prior post. Concentrate on the Easy 8s! There should only be two in that group right now and one is the commander!
>>47239627Well technically Intuition is supposed to provide you with a "hint" on what the enemy is doing and what may happen next.
fucking college making me miss threads and shitgive me a bit to catch up
> **GRISELDA POOL (M4 Sherman – 75mm M3)> *ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Centaur I – QF 6-Pounder)> IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV – QF 6-Pounder)> “SUVOROV” (Panzer III Ausf. J – 50mm KwK 38 L/42)> SERAFINA MACZEK (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3)> REGINA TANEY (IS-2m – D-25T 122mm)vs > **CPT. “DIX” HAUSER (M4A3E8 Sherman – 76mm M1 “Dutch”)> *SGT. “FRIAR” BENSON (M4A3E2 Sherman – 75mm M3 “Cobra King) (LEGENDARY)> CPL. “AUNTIE DOT” MURDOCH (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “San Quentin”)> CPL. “KITTY” DANSON (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Alcatraz”)> CPL. “BUTTERCUP” YELICH (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Atlanta”)> CPL. “BLUE” JACKSON (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Folsom”)> CPL. “SNOWIE” CUTHBERT (M45 Pershing – 105mm M4 “Rikers”)> *SGT. “DEE DEE” KASPEROFF (M4A3E8 Sherman – 76mm M1 “Buchanan”)> CPL. “SWEETUMS” TALBOT (M4A3E8 Sherman – 76mm M1 “Griswold”)> CPL. “STRIPESY” POSEY (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Trumbull”)> CPL. “LACEY” WILCOX (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Rucker”)> CPL. “POLKA DOTS” MCGEE (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Benning”)> *SGT. “RED” PULLER (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Nova”)> CPL. “ROCK” MORGAN (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Harvard”)> CPL. “REX” GAGE (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Hampton”)> CPL. “LEGS” SMITH (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Columbia”)> *SGT. “BLAST” HARDING (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “Alabama”)> CPL. “GRIZZLY” JENSON (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “North Dakota”)> CPL. “KODIAK” FENTON (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “Arizona”)6 vs 19
>>47239659Ah, well that is my bad then. I came into this quest around the Gagetown battle.If you want added insight, then I guess I can join the chorus on focusing on what rears and commanders there are.
>>47239627But we can still knock out their rear, shouldn't we take them out and box them in so we can just worry about the chaffes/
>>47239721I got convinced to do it here, >>47239705 so we'll give it a go.I'm >>47239494
>>47239721Shooting the rear tank doesn't magically make them incapable of moving. Just slows them down.
>>47239759yeah but trying to maneuver in reverse will be a lot harder if their are knocked out tanks in the way.Remember all of these girls are freshmen save for the commander leading this formation. Take the commander out and take out the rear tanks should make them panic to more or less of a standstill.
>>47237581Go read The Tank War by Mark Urban. Most of the Crusader crews liked the tank, though admittedly just as many liked the American Stuarts and Grants. The main thing crews hated where the earlier Cruisers I-IV, which broke down constantly, were uncomfortable as fuck and were generally terrible.
>>47239353>Deploy smokePut some smoke between us and the formation, escape out of the valley under the cover of smoke>Overturn?Y
> INTUITION: - 2 CP> Overturn? Y> Fire down at them, score as many kills as possible“Serafina, stay where you are!” you order.“Oh. Okay, uh… we’ll stay here then,” she says awkwardly.“Winona, do you have a bead on Dix’s tank?” you ask.“Ah, all the Easy Eights look the same!” she says.“Then fire at all of them!” The tank shakes as it fires down the ridge at one of the Shermans. This time, you manage a killing on one of the Easy Eights.> KO: SGT. “DEE DEE” KASPEROFF (M4A3E8 Sherman)> KILL CREDITED TO: ELODIE ZUMWALT (CROMWELL III)“Woo! We got one!” she yells.Griselda, Iris, and eventually Suvorov as well depress their guns and fire down too. Suvorov’s shot bounces off the front of a Jumbo tank, but Iris’s and Griselda’s find their mark.> KO: CPL “KITTY” DANSON (M26 Pershing “Alcatraz”)> KILL CREDITED TO: GRISELDA POOL (M4 Sherman)> KO: CPL “SWEETUMS” TALBOT (M4A3E8 Sherman “Griswold”)> KILL CREDITED TO: IRIS BLACKBOURNEIris had actually managed to nail the Easy Eight bringing up the rear, for all intents and purposes trapping them down there.But still, there were quite a few of them, and that meant they could still return fire. One of them, an M45 Pershing fires a Howitzer shot upwards at you. The shot explodes between you and Griselda, shaking the tank to the side and sending everyone out of their seats. The concussive blast makes the metal creak and groan. “Agh! My head!” Josephina rubs her head, groaning in pain.[1/2]
>>47239968[2/2]> JOSEPHINA HAS BEEN STUNNEDIngrid lays in her seat. “Ugh…”> INGRID HAS BEEN STUNNEDOne of the Jumbo Shermans as well fires, sending a shot which splices across Griselda’s tracks and shatters them.> MOBILITY KILL: GRISELDA POOL (M4 Sherman)“FUCK!” yells Griselda. “Hold on, we gotta repair!”The other tanks as well fire back at the Churchill and the Panzer III. The Panzer III wisely takes cover behind the crest of the ridge, and no shots thankfully manage to penetrate the Churchill. Though there were some worrying near-misses from the remaining Pershings.Still, if your intuition is right, those Chaffees are somewhere. They’ll probably be southwest on Skyline by now in fact!> COMMAND POINTS: 39 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> TARGET WEAKPOINT: - 10 CP> Deploy Smoke (3/3)> Retreat, as best you can with a stunned driver.> Keep up the fire, eliminate as many as you can.> Other
>>47239988> Keep up the fire, eliminate as many as you can.If Gris-Gris is mobility killed, I dunno if obscuring their vision with smoke will help much - not like they need to change their aim.
> **GRISELDA POOL (M4 Sherman – 75mm M3) (Mobility Kill)> *ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Centaur I – QF 6-Pounder)> IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV – QF 6-Pounder)> “SUVOROV” (Panzer III Ausf. J – 50mm KwK 38 L/42)> SERAFINA MACZEK (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3)> REGINA TANEY (IS-2m – D-25T 122mm)Vs> **CPT. “DIX” HAUSER (M4A3E8 Sherman – 76mm M1 “Dutch”)> *SGT. “FRIAR” BENSON (M4A3E2 Sherman – 75mm M3 “Cobra King) (LEGENDARY)> CPL. “AUNTIE DOT” MURDOCH (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “San Quentin”)> CPL. “BUTTERCUP” YELICH (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Atlanta”)> CPL. “BLUE” JACKSON (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Folsom”)> CPL. “SNOWIE” CUTHBERT (M45 Pershing – 105mm M4 “Rikers”)> CPL. “STRIPESY” POSEY (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Trumbull”)> CPL. “LACEY” WILCOX (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Rucker”)> CPL. “POLKA DOTS” MCGEE (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Benning”)> *SGT. “RED” PULLER (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Nova”)> CPL. “ROCK” MORGAN (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Harvard”)> CPL. “REX” GAGE (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Hampton”)> CPL. “LEGS” SMITH (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Columbia”)> *SGT. “BLAST” HARDING (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “Alabama”)> CPL. “GRIZZLY” JENSON (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “North Dakota”)> CPL. “KODIAK” FENTON (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “Arizona”)6 vs 16
>>47239988>Keep up the fire, eliminate as many as you can.We need to cover Griselda.
>>47239988> Keep up the fire, eliminate as many as you can.Normally I'd say lets go find us some chaffees, but with a stunned driver, I wouldn't.
>>47239988> Deploy Smoke (3/3)> Retreat, as best you can with a stunned driver.> Use the winch to drag Griselda out.We just have to get behind the ridge. So long as pull that off we'll be ok.Shit, there aren't any rules on swapping crew are there? Tell Griselda's driver to get in OUR tank and get both of us outta here!Tell the poles and navy team to blast the ridge where the chaffees are going to be coming up. Get the Churchill and Pz3 outta there before they get rear ended.
>>47239988>> Keep up the fire, eliminate as many as you can.>Keep Aiming at the Shermans, One of them has to be Dix. We took out one commander, we can finish the other off.
>>47239988>Deploy Smoke Southwest, towards where the Chaffees will be coming from.We probably won't see them coming either way but hopefully this way they won't get their range in until our driver's back up and we can make them work for it. >Keep up the fire, eliminate as many as you can.
>>47239988Initial thoughts>East bank keep up the fire>West Bank prepare to leave to avoid the flank, heading south.>Serafina and Regina engage to start firing to cover the West Bank retreat.>Intuition -2 to find where those Chaffee's are.Feel free to shout me down, I will listen to other plans
>>47240160This actually seems like the smart choice.
>>47239988>>47240160Sounds fair to me! Supporting.
>>47239988>>47240160Fine, I'll vote for this, but we aim to take out Dix. Like i said, we have to take out the Commanders.
>>47239988> Keep up the fire, eliminate as many as you can.
>>47240160Yeah that's fair
>>47240160>>47240268I'll change my vote to this, not that I know a lot about tankery strategy.
>>47240160Sounds good anonthough perhaps we could use speedy speedy to our advantage if push comes to shove, and just fucking run away down the opposite side of the hill
> Keep up the fire, eliminate as many as you can.> Other“Iris, Suvorov, start retreating! The Chaffees and the Scotts are gonna be closing in on you soon!”“Copy!” says Iris. “Surovov, keep your tank behind me!” You see the two tanks retreat over the crest.“Serafina, Regina, you two cover their retreat! We have to keep as many people alive as possible!”“Got it! Finally! Let’s go!” You look left to see the Pershing and the IS-2.“NAVAL STUDIES TO THE RESCUE!” yells Taney. You roll your eyes. Ugh. That’s just-Suddenly, the Sherman is uppercut by a 76mm round to the turret. The white flag pops out.“Well, fuck,” says Griselda.> KO: GRISELDA POOL (M4 Sherman)> KILL CREDITED TO: CPL “STRIPESY” POSEY (M4A3E2 Sherman (76)Goddamn it! You thump your fist against the top of the turret. Suddenly, you see the tanks pop out of their ambush formation. The Pershings start continuing down the road, while the Shermans start moving up the ridge towards you. Ah fuck. “Wait!” You look down at Winona. “That E8! That’s the last one! Fire at it now!”Winona fires her shot at the only E8 in the group, and this time, it doesn’t miss. The shot bounces on the mantlet, right into the top armor.> KO: CPT. “DIX” HAUSER (M4A3E8 Sherman)> KILL CREDITED TO: ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Cromwell III)“Wooo! We beat Dix!” yells Stack. “Yeeehaw! Get ‘em!”Alright, you now have a lot of angry tanks still advancing on you. But hopefully the heavy tanks will still be safe. In fact your intuition tells you they should be-“They’re right on top of us!” You hear a lot of cannon fire out in the distance. “It’s no good! They’re outrunning our turret traverses!” yells Iris.Josephina groans, blinking as she grabs the stick. “Wh- what’s going on!?”> JOSEPHINA IS NO LONGER STUNNED> COMMAND POINTS: 37 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> TARGET WEAKPOINT: - 10 CP> Deploy Smoke (3/3)> Retreat to safer cover> Retreat to back up the remaining tanks> Other
>>47240501>> Deploy Smoke (3/3)>> Retreat to back up the remaining tanks
>>47240501> Deploy Smoke (3/3)> Retreat to safer cover
>>47240501> Retreat to back up the remaining tanks> Deploy Smoke (3/3)Shoot the lead pershing in the tracks again to slow down the lot.Tell the others to form an infantry square! They got the brits and history buffs. They can do it!
>>47240501>Deploy Smoke>Execute Tactical Maneuver (Run)
>>47240501>Deploy Smoke>Retreat to back up the remaining tanks>OtherTell Iris to back up while Suvorov moves forward through the Scotts and Chaffees, they can then target each other's attackers with substantially more ease. And tell the Poles and Catalina Jockeys to get a move on.
>>47240581I don't think the Pershing or IS-2 have reached them yet, so it's just the two of them, ie not enough for a square. Otherwise yeah it could work.
>>47240608Well the arrows end right next to each other. If they aren't then bugger.
>>47240058> *ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Centaur I – QF 6-Pounder)> IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV – QF 6-Pounder)> “SUVOROV” (Panzer III Ausf. J – 50mm KwK 38 L/42)> SERAFINA MACZEK (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3)> REGINA TANEY (IS-2m – D-25T 122mmVs> *SGT. “FRIAR” BENSON (M4A3E2 Sherman – 75mm M3 “Cobra King) (LEGENDARY)> CPL. “AUNTIE DOT” MURDOCH (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “San Quentin”)> CPL. “BUTTERCUP” YELICH (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Atlanta”)> CPL. “BLUE” JACKSON (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Folsom”)> CPL. “SNOWIE” CUTHBERT (M45 Pershing – 105mm M4 “Rikers”)> CPL. “STRIPESY” POSEY (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Trumbull”)> CPL. “LACEY” WILCOX (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Rucker”)> CPL. “POLKA DOTS” MCGEE (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Benning”)> *SGT. “RED” PULLER (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Nova”)> CPL. “ROCK” MORGAN (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Harvard”)> CPL. “REX” GAGE (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Hampton”)> CPL. “LEGS” SMITH (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Columbia”)> *SGT. “BLAST” HARDING (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “Alabama”)> CPL. “GRIZZLY” JENSON (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “North Dakota”)> CPL. “KODIAK” FENTON (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “Arizona”)5 vs 15
>>47240627True, if they are together I'd like to switch my Other from this >>47240592 to forming square. After all the Churchill IS an Infantry tank.
sort of lost, can someone do a diagram of our tanks+directions and their tanks+directions?
>>47240675It still says we're a Centaur. We should be a Cromwell by now
>>47240746Yeah, that's my fault for not pre-writing these lineups.
>>47240746I just copied and paste what German originally posted, I'll correct it when the next knock outs show up.
>>47240746fucking oleg didnt actually do anything and took our money
>>47240779par the course for russians.
also not the best time elodie but here's a quick callback from the voice in your headremember not to be stored on dick>>47234963
>>47240851is this possiblee that we could upgrade it to this tank? i wanna see how eloidie and the gang would react to this.
>>47240906we currently are at that level of tank, anoni do want to get not to be stored on dick on the side though
>>47240906We basically already have sans the gun.
> Deploy Smoke (2/3)> Retreat to back up the remaining tanks“Fire smoke!” Smoke is fired off, masking your escape as you start retreating south down the ridge towards your tanks. “Uh, Suvorov! You know Napoleonic stuff, right!?”“Yeah, I-“ She gasps. “I got it! We gotta form an infantry square! Iris, I’ll cover you, head back down to the road with Serafina and Regina! Lock yourselves up into a square with your engine blocks in the center!”“What about you!?” you ask.“We’ll buy you all some time! There’s no way they’ll escape with these Chaffees chasing us! Do svidaniya!”You hurry down the hill, and you pull up your binoculars to see the Panzer III trying to herd the Chaffees away from a fleeing Churchill with some amount of success, pulling them away. The Churchill manages to reach the road where the Pershing and the IS-2 are busy locking themselves into a square, trying to cover up their engine blocks with each other’s tanks.The Panzer III fires a blind shot, which actually manages a hit.> KO: SGT. “BLAST” HARDING (M8 Scott “Alabama”)> KILL CREDITED TO: “SUVOROV” (Panzer III Ausf. J)But at the cost of its own life. A Chaffee fires a shot which slams into it’s engine block, setting it on fire.> KO: “SUVOROV” (Panzer III Ausf. J)> KILL CREDITED TO: CPL. “LEGS” SMITH (M24 Chaffee)The Churchill, the Pershing, and the IS-2 are now locked in a square, with only one element missing from it.> COMMAND POINTS: 37 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> TARGET WEAKPOINT: - 10 CP> Deploy Smoke (2/3)> Join the square, the heavy tanks can’t perform a retreat against lights> Break up the square and keep running> Other
>>47240943>> Join the square, the heavy tanks can’t perform a retreat against lights> Deploy Smoke (2/3)Can we deploy smoke to cover their retreat?
>>47240943> INTUITION: - 2 CP
>>47240943Here's the problem. The Pershings are coming but we can't possibly retreat because the Chaffees will murder us.> Join the square, the heavy tanks can’t perform a retreat against lightsWhen the Pershings get here, just shove smoke everywhere.
>>47240943>> INTUITION: - 2 CP> Join the square, the heavy tanks can’t perform a retreat against lights
>>47240943>INTUTION: -2CP>Other>Run interference around the square.We Cromwell now, we can actually careen around with these motherfuckers and stop them from being able to focus on breaking the Heavies' position. The square won't be perfect this way but with us disrupting their lights it should work.
>>47240675> *ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Centaur I – QF 6-Pounder)> IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV – QF 6-Pounder)> SERAFINA MACZEK (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3)> REGINA TANEY (IS-2m – D-25T 122mmVS> *SGT. “FRIAR” BENSON (M4A3E2 Sherman – 75mm M3 “Cobra King) (LEGENDARY)> CPL. “AUNTIE DOT” MURDOCH (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “San Quentin”)> CPL. “BUTTERCUP” YELICH (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Atlanta”)> CPL. “BLUE” JACKSON (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Folsom”)> CPL. “SNOWIE” CUTHBERT (M45 Pershing – 105mm M4 “Rikers”)> CPL. “STRIPESY” POSEY (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Trumbull”)> CPL. “LACEY” WILCOX (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Rucker”)> CPL. “POLKA DOTS” MCGEE (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Benning”)> *SGT. “RED” PULLER (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Nova”)> CPL. “ROCK” MORGAN (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Harvard”)> CPL. “REX” GAGE (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Hampton”)> CPL. “LEGS” SMITH (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Columbia”)> CPL. “GRIZZLY” JENSON (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “North Dakota”)> CPL. “KODIAK” FENTON (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “Arizona”)4 vs 14Two more commanders, but damn things are looking bleak.
>>47241070It's also worth nothing that the Scotts and Chaffees have lower velocity weapons than ours (a 6 pounder AP round outpaces a M5 75mm's by 200m/s and the Howitzer is way slower), making it marginally harder for them to hit fast moving targets. Speed is our friend here.
>>47241146Sorry, M6 75mm, the M5 is the one on the bomber.
>>47240943>>47241070Fine, I'll support this.
>>47240943> Deploy Smoke (2/3)>OtherLeave square where it is, fucking book it to the town south of us (Ellisport road)Also uh schteel this whole area is forest, how the hell are the tanks fighting here
>>47241093>4 jumbos>4 PershingsIf we pulling this out, we will make Carius and Lafayette Pool rise from grave and pat us on head.
>>47240943Uh, German. How long can the Heavy team in the box will get out of their predicament? They have no leader and have a couple of heavy tank blocking their way.
>>47241168Actually, head to the auto wreckers. We'll hide amongst the broken cars and ambush them.
>>47241168I run into the constant problem of forests being in the way in almost every decent location for tanking, so unless I say there's a forest, there's no forest.
>>47241201>tfw cut down nearly all of the forest in the USA to play tank sportsgod bless america
>>47241168A close look suggests the trees are spindly little things, not oaks.
I think there is actually a tie between leaving the square where it is and joining it. But for right now, let's just have a final destination vote, see how it goes.1. Form Square2. Fuck Square
>>47241259>1. Form Square
>>472412591. Form Square
>>47241259>1. Fuck SquareWe can't get pinned down with the heavies.
>>472412592. Fuck SquareUnless that means literally abandoning it and running off, in which case I'd rather die and at least give them a hull down position.
>>472412592. Fuck SquareWe aren't armoured, we're cavalry
>>472412592. Fuck SquareI have been convinced. Here goes nothing/everything.
>>47241259I'm torn but>2. Fuck SquareAll we have is speed, we need to keep moving.
Final destination over.
> Other“Serafina, Regina, Iris, hold back the Pershings and the Shermans.” You look past them to see the Pershing pushing the corpse of one of its compatriots out of the way as it busts out of the pass. “I’ll screen you and keep the Chaffees from plinking at your sides!”“Got it!” says Serafina. “Let them have it!” The guns of the heavies fire away at the incoming tanks from Route 15. And when that happens, one manages to sneak its way through the frontal armor of one tank.> KO: CPL. “AUNTIE DOT” MURDOCH (M26 Pershing “San Quentin”)> KILL CREDITED TO: SERAFINA MACZEK (M26 Pershing)“Scratch one! We’ll win this yet-“ A shot plows right into the turret ring of the Pershing, causing a fire to erupt inside the crew compartment. “Oh, we got a fire, nevermind!”> KO: SERAFINA MACZEK (M26 Pershing)> KILL CREDITED TO: CPL. “BUTTERCUP” YELICH (M26 Pershing “Atlanta”)The other tanks start spilling out of the pass, forming up a skirmish line slowly. They don’t intend to get too close, as not to incur the wrath of the surprisingly lethal 57mm 6-Pounder gun.Meanwhile, you’re running circles around the Square, trying to keep the Chaffees away. They fire away at you, missing every shot so far. Ha!Suddenly, coming up from behind the Chaffees is a very surprising sight, a Jumbo not only keeping pace, but slowly outrunning them. Painted on the side is the name “COBRA KING”. It creeps up through the formation and fires a shot at you. You duck, nearly missing the shot taking off your head. That was close! You duck down in for good measure.The Chaffees split off, intending to skirmish and pick at the sorry-looking square of heavy tanks.That just left you with a very angry Cobra King to deal with.> COMMAND POINTS: 37 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> TARGET WEAKPOINT: - 10 CP> CHARGE HIM> RUN AWAY> Other
>>47241566> CHARGE HIM
>>47241566>TARGET WEAKPOINT: - 10CP>CHARGE HIMFlank and spank, give 'em the old Tommy one-two. Pip-pip cheerio etc.
>>47241566> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)Nishizumi hook!Not really necessary but hell why not?
>>47241636because it will cripple our tank?
>>47241644Doesn't always happen.
>>47241566>TARGET WEAKPOINT:King Cobra - SUSPENSION or TURRET JAM it>INTUITION>Smoke>Run Awaywe need to kill the chafees before we can kill that king cobra. we cant risk oursleves being flanked by these buggers.
> *ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Centaur I – QF 6-Pounder)> IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV – QF 6-Pounder)> REGINA TANEY (IS-2m – D-25T 122mmVs> *SGT. “FRIAR” BENSON (M4A3E2 Sherman – 75mm M3 “Cobra King) (LEGENDARY)> CPL. “BUTTERCUP” YELICH (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Atlanta”)> CPL. “BLUE” JACKSON (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Folsom”)> CPL. “SNOWIE” CUTHBERT (M45 Pershing – 105mm M4 “Rikers”)> CPL. “STRIPESY” POSEY (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Trumbull”)> CPL. “LACEY” WILCOX (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Rucker”)> CPL. “POLKA DOTS” MCGEE (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Benning”)> *SGT. “RED” PULLER (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Nova”)> CPL. “ROCK” MORGAN (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Harvard”)> CPL. “REX” GAGE (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Hampton”)> CPL. “LEGS” SMITH (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Columbia”)> CPL. “GRIZZLY” JENSON (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “North Dakota”)> CPL. “KODIAK” FENTON (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “Arizona”)3 vs 13Fuck.
>>47241685I'm sensing a trend here.
>>47241675It mention that our tracks are a bit weak from the improved engine. The Hook might kill us>>47241681They are already doing that, and even if we do, it's 1 vs 6 light tanks
>>47241716Oh forgot about that bit.>>47241566>>47241636Screw this then.
>>47241566German we also voted for intuition earlier, what was it?
>>47241702what is the Trend?
>>472417971 for 1. Not a great ratio.
>>47241758Ah, missed that, sorry.Here's your hint:> Now that you're down to three tanks, the remaining Heinlein tanks are going to be feeling pretty confident. It wouldn't surprise if you they made some sort of mistake like rushing right at the square.
>>47241811Okay so any interpretation?>>47241566We throw smoke on our square to give them cover while they pick off the chargers?>>47241811Also German, where are the Scotts?
>>47241856Assisting the Chaffees in poking and prodding at the square, trying to loosen it up.
>>47241856Well I wish we stayed as a proper square and shot them to bits as they came in, seems like they're just going to rush at us.Tell the other 2 to put their backs against the Pershing and make a last stand.
>>47241811If the remainder of the square holds we should pick a Napoleonic unit badge to paint on the sides of their turrets.
Any chance we could come out on top in this one, lads? 2 to 1 doesn't exactly seem tenable right now.
>>47241988It could be done. Long odds though.
>>47241988We've still got to two British Tanks left, which means our upper lip stiffness will increase exponentially at this point, so we should be fine regardless of odds.
>>47241856That seems okay as an option. Frankly, I am stumped as to what we can do, aside from taking a targeted shot at the Cobra.>>47241988Look at it this way, the goal is to keep it close now. Lets try and pull a win. If not, lets make it close.
>>47241988The real question is whether the IS-2's crew have started cursing in Russian yet.
> CHARGE HIM> TARGET WEAKPOINT: - 10 CP“Winona, turn the turret around!” Josephina swings the tank left. You hear a very worrying grinding noise from the suspension. The turret whirs as she sweeps the turret to the rear. Cobra King fires again, this time missing again, but only by a few inches. “Fire, fire!” The shot goes straight at Cobra King, and despite all that heavy front armor and heavy turret armor, it smashes into the turret ring and disintegrates. Cobra King careens out of control, stunned. “There, there! Pull it around, we can charge them!”Josephina grinds the tank to a stop, scraping the treads across the ground and spitting up mud up into the air. She reverses and pulls a very quick J-turn, facing the tank towards the stunned Cobra King! “Alright, Winona, now, fire!” She fires again, unfortunately the shot plinks off the turret face. “Damn it!”“It’s a Jumbo!” yells Stack. “And we’re using standard AP rounds! There’s no way we’re going through that!” Not at this range.“Get closer!”As this happens, the Chaffees and the Scotts start circling around the square of heavy tanks. The IS-2 and the Churchill have adjusted to use the Pershing as a shield against the incoming Shermans and enemy Pershings. Iris fires a shot, which manages a hit against a Chaffee. It spins out of control and flips onto its side, burning.> KO: CPL. “REX” GAGE (M24 Chaffee)> KILL CREDITED TO: IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV)The IS-2 meanwhile. “NAVAL STUDIES RESCUE DOES NOT CONDONE USE OF TWO-PIECE AMMUNITION!” They fire, which flies wildly past the charging line of Shermans and Pershings. One of the Pershings fires back at the IS-2. This time silencing it for good[1/2]
>>47242132[2/2]> KO: REGINA TANEY (IS-2m)> KILL CREDITED TO: CPL. “BLUE” JACKSON (M26 Pershing)Fuck fuck fuck. You’re coming right around the side of Cobra King, into range of the other tanks! “Josephina, I need you to-“ Suddenly you’re all thrown out of your seats by a random shot which sets your engine afire. “We got a fire! We got a fire!” Smoke starts filling the fighting compartment. You cough, opening up the hatches to vent the smoke. The extinguisher, where is it!?Too late, the judging computer goes off.> KO: ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (CROMWELL III)> KILL CREDITED TO: CPL. “BUTTERCUP” YELICH (M26 Pershing)Everyone sits in their seats, the smoke rising out of the hatches, harmless.“Well, shit,” says Stack.…Everyone awkwardly remains quiet.> Remain quiet too, no need to make things worse.> “Hey, we did our best.”> “Fuck.”> Other
>>47242104they need to bleed red firstheh...bleed red
>>47242156>> Other"....do we have a cuppa here? I could have one now"
>>47242104If they haven't, I'm sure the SLAV FURY is getting them there.This is a Flag match, right? No way this Squash match is an Elim stipulation.>>47242156> “Fuck.”>[inarticulate British hooligan gargling]
>>47242156>> “Hey, we did our best.”>> OtherWe gave harder than we thought we could, against those odds.
>>47242156>> “Fuck.”Why did we not Squire!
>>47242192Tomorrow's the flag match.
>>47242156Wait, the Churchill's still up? >Other>Gather everyone around to think Iris to victory.
> IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV – QF 6-Pounder)vs> *SGT. “FRIAR” BENSON (M4A3E2 Sherman – 75mm M3 “Cobra King) (LEGENDARY)> CPL. “BUTTERCUP” YELICH (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Atlanta”)> CPL. “BLUE” JACKSON (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Folsom”)> CPL. “SNOWIE” CUTHBERT (M45 Pershing – 105mm M4 “Rikers”)> CPL. “STRIPESY” POSEY (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Trumbull”)> CPL. “LACEY” WILCOX (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Rucker”)> CPL. “POLKA DOTS” MCGEE (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Benning”)> *SGT. “RED” PULLER (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Nova”)> CPL. “ROCK” MORGAN (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Harvard”)> CPL. “LEGS” SMITH (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Columbia”)> CPL. “GRIZZLY” JENSON (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “North Dakota”)> CPL. “KODIAK” FENTON (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “Arizona”)1 vs 12I guess you really wanted to rush the ending to this match, aren't you German?
I knew the IS-2 was a piece of shit tank.
>>47242250I now kind of want Schteel to go insane and give the Churchill the win, just for maximum keks.
>>47242156> “Hey, we did our best.”
>>47242234Seriously? Jesus fuck.Still, those Etiquette girls--they've turned out to be one of our better teams. We need more, though: more crews, more tanks, and goddammit more money.
>>47242156>Fuck.>I'm Sorry girls...
>>47242156>“Fuck.”>Churchill is now last tank aliveCLUTCH OR KICK!>>47242234>Noriko with titsDelete this monstruosity.
>>47242302We should give them an upgrade to a truly graceful tank.
>>47242302No we just need more fucking crews but Gris Gris is no trudeI mean fuck I at least wanted to take them by half or take out their legendary.Also how are they still this organized when all their commanders were in the light tanks?
>>47242346They have two left. One in the Cobra and one in the Chaffee. Hence why the flank was able to pull off like it did.
German why is the is-2 the 1950s modernization? Isn't it past the cut off date?
>>47242332A TOG would be a godsend, but if we might be stuck with them in the Churchill for awhile.Maybe we can upgrade them to something within the Churchill frame--like, say, the Black Prince or upgrade the frame to the Churchill VII?
>>47242380It's the IS-2m, the 1944 model (which is sometimes referred to as IS-2m. I refer to it now as the IS-2m because it's much easier to refer to it as such rather than IS-2 Model 1944.)
>>47242368Yeah but it those were in the light tank branch. How did they manage to cleanly organize themselves out of all those wrecked tanks?
>>47242332We're tankery, not Haifuri. And where are we going to get a HMS Dank Meme?>>47242393The Churchill line is a dead end. We need more flexibility and we're going to get all the armor we're ever going to want with the KT.
>>47242431>We're tankery, not Haifuri. And where are we going to get a HMS Dank Meme?our crazy russian will find a way if we got money.
>>47242431>HaifuriOh my word>Haifuri, Senshado, and Skycraft are all things>Combined arms tournaments could totally be a thingSCHTEELSCHTEEL PLSBut on the KT--it's gonna cost us a relative fortune to get it back up to operational status, I'd figure. It's probably worth more as scrap metal right now than as a tank.
>>47242393The Black Prince is a wholly different Chassis and the Churchill VII is substantially wider and with a different turret. So unlikely, short of basically buying one, though a BP wouldn't be a terrible fit for them. Best case scenario we could get them a Cent Proto, but those are probably all firmly in the hands of the Brit schoolships.
>>47242411Clearly the numbers game is still too steep for an elimination game then. That or we're underestimating the other comanders. That and we're still a little green. As someone who voted fuck the square, that was a mistake and I own it. Guess we gotta roll up our socks and try and pull it off in the flag match. It will be the same numbers anyways. Only problem will be that its going to be the King Cobra as a flag, I am sure.Guess we should prepare the clown makeup and pratfalls just in case though.
>>47242521Meh. Still kind of feel German choose what elodie to say that because we were most likely going to lose
>>47242543Well, as someone that supported the motion for Elodie to form a cheer up squad at the start. I am okay with it. I knew we were going ro be running in tough this match. We'll need the morale, and who better to do it than the unlikely source?
> “Fuck.”You lean back in your seat. “Fuck.”“Hey, we knew this was coming,” says Ingrid. “At least we almost split their team in half.”> KO: SGT. “RED” PULLER (M24 Chaffee “Nova)> KILL CREDITED TO: IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV)You fold your arms. “Yeah. Look, let’s not take this loss too hard okay? It’s not like we’re fighting for the school’s survival. It’s alright if we take a hit to our pride once or twice. And I think that-““Guys.” Winona peers through her periscope. “Do you see what’s going on outside?” You all poke your heads out of the tank.And see Iris is still fighting. The Heinlein tanks are scattering, trying to slug it out, but are caught up by the wreckage of the IS-2 and Serafina’s Pershing. She’s still firing away. Another shot lands, tracking a speeding Scott but sending it flipping onto its side.> KO: CPL “GRIZZLY” JENSON (M8 Scott)> KILL CREDITED TO: IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV)One Chaffee tries to charge directly at the Churchill from behind. The turret traverses, attempting to beat it. Too late. The Chaffee fires, sending a shot right into the engine. But to everyone’s surprise it doesn’t die. Sure, there’s smoke, but it doesn’t die. The Churchill in response blasts the poor Chaffee to bits.> KO: CPL “ROCK” MORGAN (M24 Chaffee)> KILL CREDITED TO: IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV)“Come on, Iris!” yells Winona.“Yeah!” Stack pumps her fist. “Get them, you pompous little bitch! Yeah!” The turret traverses around to lead one of the last Chaffees, and nail it.> KO: CPL. “LEGS” SMITH (M24 Chaffee)> KILL CREDITED TO: IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV)“Woooo!” You all raise your arms in celebration, even as the recovery crews come to pick you all up. “Get them, Iris!” yells Ingrid.[1/3]
>>47242578[2/2]With all of the Chaffees gone and the remaining Scott ineffectual, she turns her turret around on the Pershings. Unfortunately for Iris, this may in fact be the end. They’re splitting up, a Pershing going around the rear backed up by a Jumbo, while the rest go around the front. All of them can penetrate the Churchill frontally.But still, Iris puts up a fight. She fires, sending a shot straight through the side of the Pershings. The engine explodes.> KO: CPL. “BLUE” JACKSON (M26 Pershing “Folsom”)> KILL CREDITED TO: IRIS BLACKBOURNE (CHURCHILL IV)And that’s all she wrote. They all fire away, slugging at the poor Churchill. Their shots rip apart the gun, shred the turret with dents and holes, and set the engine and ammunition on fire. The gun attempts to rise up, but depresses down in defeat. The white flag then pops up.> KO: IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV)> KILL CREDITED TO: CPL. “BUTTERCUP” YELICH (M26 Pershing “Atlanta”)What a heartbreaker.> LAFAYETTE GIRLS ACADEMY’S TANKS HAVE BEEN RENDERED INOPERABLE> ROBERT A. HEINLEIN MILITARY ACADEMY IS VICTORIOUS--You all sit around outside the tent, groaning in dejection. Other than that one hero performance from Iris, things seem to be bad. At least it wasn’t a total shutout.> - 20 MORALE ACROSS ALL CREW MEMBERSDenise rolls up on her Kettenkrad, smiling happily. “I know you all might be a little sad that you lost, I am too.” She reaches into the back and drops a cooler at your feet. “But, I got…” She steps out and opens it up for you. “Ice cream and sodapop!”Winona reaches in immediately. “Oooooh!”> + 5 MORALE TO WINONADenise smiles. “That was a good performance today regardless, Elodie.”> Boast> Neutral> Polite
>>47242578Oh god.Iris a best.Fucking MVP.
>>47242431There is alwaysthe option to convert the Churchill into an Engineering Vehicle. I remember one variant had a demolition howitzer.
>>47242596https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XPHL4Q86t4We're getting her a fucking TOG, hell or high water, she earned it. Iris best girl.
>>47242507Centurions are a sublime design--if we wanted to go all the way, if we ever got one we could modernize it into a Sho't like the Israelis did with theirs.>>47242578>>47242596>Four killstreakLoss or no, that was damn impressive! Honestly, those girls deserve a medal for that kind of shit.
>>47242596>> Polite"Thanks for the match too." shake hands.
>>47242621But the TOG is shit.>>47242627Still it made me wish to have just gone with the square. Have us provide smoke to give them time to take their shots and we might have had it.
>>47242596>> BoastCan we please just show a bit of unrestrained emotion at least once?
>>47242596>Boast"We should be thanking Iris for at least lopsiding that KDR a bit."What was the killstreak for five kills? The chopper? Where is our chopper? We could seriously use it right now.>>47242620The AVRE is also a meme.
>>47242655The TOG is the finest DD in the Royal Armour Corp's arsenal thank you very much.
>>47242641>Denise smiles. “That was a good performance today regardless, Elodie.”Uhm, Denise is our personal assistant,
>>47242596>PoliteNow lets go have tea and scones with best girl.
Seriously, if i need to make an origami from NATO rulebook to give Iris and her crew a Chieftain i will do it in hearbeat.
>>47242596Iris is getting all the goodies today! She deserves it!>Neutral>>47242641That's Denise we're talking to Anon.>>47242662I am with you anon, but I don't think boasting after being soundly defeated helps the crew morale. I think it'll show. Lets wait until after we have an option that isn't the classic 3 options.
>>47242740Haha, even if we broke every rule imaginable and bent the rest, we'd be lucky to even get a Conquerer in, let alone a Chieftain.
>>47242770Maybe we should see if we can get them a Tortoise at very least. A Centurion will be nice too.
> *SGT. “FRIAR” BENSON (M4A3E2 Sherman – 75mm M3 “Cobra King) (LEGENDARY)> CPL. “BUTTERCUP” YELICH (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Atlanta”)> CPL. “SNOWIE” CUTHBERT (M45 Pershing – 105mm M4 “Rikers”)> CPL. “STRIPESY” POSEY (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Trumbull”)> CPL. “LACEY” WILCOX (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Rucker”)> CPL. “POLKA DOTS” MCGEE (M4A3E2 Sherman (76) – 76mm M1 “Benning”)> CPL. “KODIAK” FENTON (M8 Scott – 75mm M3 Howitzer “Arizona”)0 vs 8I'm glad we got that kill strike, but it kind of made me wonder if we had use the squared formation.
>>47242682With a shitty 75mm gun, face it, your tog can barely compete with World War 1 destroyers.
>>47242740Every single match even up to when they were still unexperienced scrubs, they've managed solid kills. Hell, even right now when we're all still green, they've managed solid kills--multiple kills, even!They deserve something nice--a tank upgrade would be ideal, but even if we can only really eke out getting them a new porcelain teaset or something, we should do it.
>>47242826Agreed, looking back, I should have voted Square. But, well, here we are.I also kinda wonder if we would have done better with Serafina going in and taking a few.
> PoliteYou take a creamsicle out of the cooler and unwrap it. Eh, better than nothing. Stack and Ingrid just pick out a soda while Josephina takes some time to decide what to eat. “Thanks, Denise. That honestly means a lot. Everyone here tried their best.”“I’m sure,” she says. “Especially Iris.” You all look over at Iris and company. There, Iris is being congratulated by Griselda, Serafina, Suvorov, and Regina on a job well done. Iris in her good grace simply takes a sip of tea and nods to them, modestly. “In fact, everyone, come on.” You all stand up, and walk on over.Griselda smiles. “Honestly, we’ll try and get your Churchill back into working condition as quickly as possible. You almost saved the match for us right there, if- if you had a better tank or better terrain to work with I think-“Iris holds up her hand. “That’s quite alright, commander.”“Still!” Griselda grins. “You- most commanders would give up after that kind of stuff, after losing their entire team! What kept you going?”She takes another sip of tea. “A proper woman never gives up on a play.”“I should say too, Iris, that was really great,” you say. Iris nods to you, gentle smile on her face.Griselda smiles, leaning in closely. “Didn’t you say you’d do something funny if we lost?” Uh… what. You look at Griselda. Everyone looks at you. “Maybe I misheard you…” You look past Griselda to see Yuno and Luisa holding up a cheerleading outfit, some fox ears, and a foxtail and pom poms.…> sweet jesus no> “… yeah. I did say that.”> Other
>>47242866>but even if we can only really eke out getting them a new porcelain teaset or something, we should do it.Oh yeah, this is a must after we return.
>>47242818>TortoiseThey're already slow enough as it is. We don't need them to be even slower.I'd settle for a Charioteer, or any of those projects to arm a Cromwell with a 20 pounder
>>47242826We would've died very quickly, whether the cover we formed for the heavies would be effective is the only question. No point agonising over it now anyway, we made the call and it's done. >>47242848Not even that, but she's got charm you know, and is basically the epitome of etiquette in tankery.
>>47242887>> “… yeah. I did say that.”Stiff upper lip, Ellie! Learn something from the Etiquette girls!
>>47242887>> “… yeah. I did say that.”>> Other"can't we wait until tomorrow match?">>47242899trading armor with gun and speed... if we got another heavy crew in their place i will agree with this.
>>47242887>sweet jesus no
>>47242887>"...yeah. I did say that.">Other "I guess it could be worse...right?"Tempt fate, why don't we?
>>47242887>> “… yeah. I did say that.”
>>47242887>“… yeah. I did say that.”A-a-an, an, a-a-an, anA-a-an, a-a-an, an, an, anI want to meet that girl and will cross this seaThe light on my head is my sign of loveBurning, scorching and swayingBurning, scorching and swayingCome here, an, anDon’t run, an, anShaking the waves, an, an, anLet’s meet tomorrow on that beach nearbyYour light is the light of loveTempting, teasing and sparklingTempting, teasing and sparklingI love you, an, anDon’t cry, an, anIt’s OK now, an, an, anYour body is hot and warmYour light’s a bit of a botherCooking boiling steam, steamyCooking boiling steamy, steamyThe piping hot potPiping, hot and deliciousHot in soy sauce with miso
>>47242887We should really consider getting the etiquette girls to give the rest of the team some discipline training, especially the Poles. If our whole team had even half of their coolness under fire we'd be wrecking face.
>>47242906Not really if we would have provided smoke while they fired, we would at least took out that Legendary, now it's going to bite us in the ass. Meh, the TOG and TOG 2, were made by the Original World War 1 designers of the British Mark 1 tank. It would have had style in 1917-1918 but as of now, it's like coming in platoform shoes and afros in the 90s.
>>47242887>>47242936This. I'm sorry, but bringing this up now I feel is kind of bitchy. I know she doesn't mean it but bringing it up now would make me think she lost on purpose at our expense.
>>47242887>>47242936Supporting this. Wrong time and place.
I'm sorry, but does anyone feel like Griselda is putting her foot down her throat or is this a case of it's okay since she's cute. Because I wouldn't mind if she brought it up after the flag match but if she is bringing it up now right after the loss and another match coming up, it kind of pisses me off a bit.
>>47243093Gotta raise morale. It's what Ooarai did after St. Gloriana wrecked them and it worked for them.
>>47243120Yeah but they didn't have a match right before that. I feel it kind of pours salt in the wound and Griselda is stepping in it, especially since she was the first person knocked out. if we didn't know her better and the whole cute girls doing cute things logic wasn't being applied here, kind of feels she lost at our expense.
>>47243093Yeah, feels defeatist and a bit crass. Best lady would not approve.
>>47243093No?And not because 'she's cure we'll let it slide'. Match is over. Lets go do other stuff. I'm not bothered.
>>47243164But we have another match tomorrow and for her to bring it up in a kind of close match, idk, how she brought it up irks me.
>>47243120More better comparison is when Ooarai get surrounded by Pravda and Miho start dancing on her accord.We should raise our team morale, yes. But by our own accord and our own term.
>>47243188I think it might have also been the Schteel's pacing of it. It came up like one post after the end of the match, even if we've probably had an hour or two to cool off 'in universe'.
>>47243164and it's not to mention how she acts beforehand especially with Trude, I understand wanting to do it on your own but if she offers decent or acceptable business proposals and says no on the basis because it's Trude is also annoying.
>>47243188Well I'm a fairly laid back sort of person so this doesn't bother me. Uh yeah. I just don't care that much. Embarassing it may well be but we agreed to it. Heck we made the proposal in the first place.
So just to make things clear, you want to do it now or later?1. Now2. Later
>>47243216Still if she wanted to bring it up, do it after the Flag match, if we won it will come off as a joke and if we lost we'll pay up like we said we would.but in-between, it sounds like she's not taking it seriously and this is coming from the girl who got knocked out first.
>>47243247>2. Later>>47243238Yeah, it seems that this session if Elodie is putting a foot in her mouth thread.
>>47243258Yeah, but at least if she'd brought it up later in the evening after we'd gotten a good debriefing, seen to the tanks, and gotten to interact with team members or others etc for just a bit of stuff before she brought it up it might have flowed better. >>47243247>2. Later
>>472432471. NowJust do it.>>47243258What does it matter that she got knocked out first? She didn't make any mistake that lead to it.
>>47243287I might have accepted that too but again she didn't and it kind of comes off to be perfectly frank, a bitch.
>>47243247>1. NowMight as well get it done.
>>47243307I think that might be too far, but honestly, that kind of mild overreaction and taking of things maybe a tad too seriously seems really suitable to El's character, though I doubt she'd word it as harshly.
>>47243294Except for barely doing much in this match and getting shot in the first place but that is also my hate speaking probably for her bringing it up
>>47243346But neither of those is her fault.
>>47243341Oh of coarse, for Eli that's a bit and we know Gris-Gris doesn't mean anything malicious by it, but damn at any other time could she have brought this up?
>>47243388The question now, is whether GS will succumb to lewds or give us DRAMA.
>>47243436GS rarely writes lewds.
> “… yeah. I did say that.”> OtherYou press your lips together, then give a very fierce glare at Griselda. “I did say that didn’t I.” She shrugs, trying to keep herself from laughing.“You don’t have to do it now,” says Griselda.“Please don’t make me do it now,” you say.She pats you on the arm, smiling. “Tomorrow after the flag match.” She snaps her fingers, grinning at you. “Don’t forget!” Luisa and Yuno disappointedly put the outfit back into the crate.Such a slutty little number, there’s no way anybody-“Ooooh!” Winona looks at it. “Can I try that on?”…--[1/2]
>>47243479[2/2]You sit at the tea table with Iris and Griselda, taking a sip of her deliciously tongue-tingly tea. Winona meanwhile… “Winona, you look like seven shades of slut,” says Ingrid. Winona is wearing the cheerleader uniform, with the top pressing against her chest, the tail hanging down her legs, and the ears poking above her head, yeah…“Aw, come on!” Winona wiggles her hips a little, letting the loose skirt flap around, showing off the tail. “I look cute, don’t I?” She looks over at Griselda. “Hey, Griselda, do you mind if I keep this outfit? I love it!” How does Winona do this? How does she let herself be demeaned by wearing something so… outrageous?Griselda shrugs. “You’ll have to check in with Clara. But I approve of it at least.”“Heehee! Awesome!” Winona bounces away.Iris blinks. “Sometimes, I kind of wish I could be like Winona for about ten minutes, see what things are like in her world.”“Are you sure you don’t want to wear it today?” asks Griselda.“We just lost a match, we have another match tomorrow, I don’t want to…” You motion to your body. “Embarrass myself. I want to be in top form.”“Mmm, that’s fine,” says Griselda. “Sorry for bringing it up then I guess.”“Regardless.” Iris raises her cup of tea. “Tomorrow’s another day, hopefully one for victory. And quite frankly, I will be very candid, I am getting sick and tired of being half the team most times when it’s not you two around.” That’s fair, very fair. “Can we please try to win tomorrow?”“We will,” says Griselda. She raises her cup as well.“We will,” you declare.Here’s to tomorrow.
>>47243499That's it for tonight. Sorry for your loss but maybe you'll get 'em tomorrow in the Flag match (remember that sides are switched between matches. You'll be starting in the north this time.) Hope you all enjoyed.Follow at: https://twitter.com/GermanSchteelAsk at: http://germanschteel.tumblr.com/Book Tumbles: http://germanschteelbookblog.tumblr.com/See you next time.
>>47243499>“Regardless.” Iris raises her cup of tea. “Tomorrow’s another day, hopefully one for victory. And quite frankly, I will be very candid, I am getting sick and tired of being half the team most times when it’s not you two around.” That’s fair, very fair. “Can we please try to win tomorrow?”What? this only happened once?
>>47243530So if we had Squired would we have had a better chance at winning?
>>47243530Thanks for running m8!Winona doesn't have the body for that outfit, though.>>47243539It's very emotionally exhausting for players that aren't suppossed to carry to end up carrying
>>47243530so how fucked are our tanks going to be for the following match?
>>47243539Iris has generally been the most consistent of our teammates, I think she's landed at least one kill each match. She also gets shot the most, I imagine the ringing from all those impacts gives you a mean headache.
>>47243558I have a policy against answering these kinds of questions because A. this Quest is incredibly dynamic so doing one thing different won't necessarily result in another thing happening unless did another thing like two threads ago and B. You should just try and move forward instead of look back on your mistakes.>>47243539Iris has consistently been one of the better commanders on the team even if she hasn't scored the most kills or been the most visible(though this has probably bumped her up to second or even first on the team somewhere).>>47243583They'll be fine. Oleg works fast.
>>47243577But this is the first time both Griselda and Elodie were knocked out while she was still on. The only match where we lost was with the Soviet casemate team and she lost midway.
>>47243606>They'll be fine. Oleg works fast.But wasn't the penalties for losing tanks in the elimination round that the tanks don't work as well, and that's why other teams have shit loads of tanks so that they can be replaced for the following match?
>>47243611She isn't claiming that she's carrying when you two are knocked out. She's claiming that she's having to carry when you two are literally not around her.>>47243641I said that they'd be fine, not that they'd work precisely to spec.
>>47243641THEY don't have Oleg.>>47243650If carrying bothers her, she's not officer material.
>>47243666>If carrying bothers her, she's not officer material.What would you know about it satan?
> M24 Chaffee x 6> M5A1 Stuart x 20> M8 Scott x 13> M26 Pershing x 6> M45 Pershing x 5> M4A3E8 Sherman x 27> M4A3E8 Sherman x 5 (ELITE)> M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo (76) x 10> M18 Hellcat x 5> M36 Jackson x 5> LEGENDARY TANK: M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo “Cobra King”> This particular Sherman Jumbo is known to be the famous tank which was the first to liberate the stricken defenders at Bastogne. Thought lost to an unknown raid, this tank was found again, and restored to full functioning order. Strangely, despite the reputation of Sherman Jumbos being rather clumsily heavy and slow, “Cobra King” is actually relatively speedy and agile for REGULAR Shermans.I took out the tanks that they probably won't use for next match but it's still a shitty situation.
>>47243666>If carrying bothers her, she's not officer material.Eh, carrying your team is always a bother.
>>47243727I mean we're practically are carrying the team for Gris-Gris more or less by being the bait.
>>47243704So considering the list what will be used?Also German what happened to the Flairs?
>>47243650She isn't really wrong, Serafina and Suvarov are a little behind in comparisson to Iris. And then there is Regina who is in her first match. I can sympathise. But maybe tomorrow the others will show their worth.>>47243704Well, I mean I guess we know the flag tank. Unless of course, Dix throws us for a loop.The real trick will be strategy. We have to deal with a reversed map. And a huge chokepoint.
>>47243769The Illumination Flares are really only technically useful at night, which is why they were delisted.Though, they're always an option regardless as a write-in.
>>47243778But what's i'm wondering is why does she have the short barrel 50mm gun? I thought German said it was a long barrel version. Also what improvements to the tanks have been made since last week?
>>47243778Technically, Dix and whatever opponent is always going to throw you for a loop. The Flag Tank is a random assignment.
>>47243778Could try digging in the IS and Churchill hull down at the North End of the ravine while the Sherman and Pz III take 554 and we go cross country in the Cromwell to and try to get to Armstrong Rd without being spotted then zoom all the way around to hit them from behind.
>>47243805When will we get APC and APBC rounds? I know APCR is available but those are rare, when can we upgrade with those rounds? I mean the former hsould be cheaper then the latter.Also to add to that what version of the 6 pounder are we and the churchill are using?
>>472438531. APC and APBC rounds may come later though I may just consolidate them into one proper ammunition type to simplify things.2. It's the standard QF 6-pounder. I don't think it was known for having many different variants especially tank wise.
>>47243853When we buy them. And we're using the Mk 5, with the L/50 barrel and muzzle break. I believe the Churchill mk IV uses the same.
>>47243805Well, regardless. I would be shocked if the King doesn't show up again.We're going to have to be sharp tomorrow.>>47243843That sounds not too bad, kind of similar to what we did with Gagetown.
>>47243878There's two tank variants, the Mk 3, which was on the Crusader and has a L/43 barrel and the Mk 5 which has an L/50 and a single baffle muzzle break added. The latter provides somewhat better velocity, about 40-50 m/s, meaning a couple mms more penetration.
>>47243887Double checking since we could have the L/43 barrel giving us less penetration power.>>47243878Mk 1: limited production version with L/50 barrel.Mk 2: first mass production version. Shortened L/43 barrel was adopted due to the shortage of suitable manufacturing equipment.Mk 3: tank version of Mk 2.Mk 4: L/50 barrel, single baffle muzzle brake.Mk 5: tank version of Mk 4 .Molins Class M gun: 6 pounder gun fitted with automatic loader built by the Molins company, a manufacturer of cigarette making machines. It was mounted on the Royal Navy Motor Torpedo Boats and in the RAF Mosquito planes, which were referred to as the "Tsetse".57 mm Gun M1: US built version; although based on Mk II, it had the "original" L/50 barrel.These are the variants, two of them are for tanks. Kind of like the 75 M2 and the 75 M3 for the Americans. Also I thought we had the longer barrel or at least that is what Griselda said she she pitched it .
>>47243948The Centaur and Cromwell III both fitted the 6 pounder mark 5 historically.
>>47243878German what upgrades happen to our teammates tanks over the past week>?
>>47243948>>47243968Same with the Cromwell I. Hell the "Do not stow on dick" Cromwell is a Cromwell I in Australia and mounts the 6 pounder Mk 5 if you're looking for a visual reference.
>>47243942>>47243948Yeah, like last Quest in regards to the different variants of the 76mm M1 on the Sherman tank and the Hellcat, I don't really keep track of those marginal increases and decreases in penetration power across variants. I just consolidate it all into a standard Six Pounder gun.Reason being is that there really isn't a point to only a couple of mms increase in penetration. Plus, it'd be incredibly difficult to track it if I were to adjust for every tiny change. Call it artistic liberty.>>47243972Everyone except you got applique armor, winches were also installed as standard as well. Griselda, being Griselda, hasn't settled her financing issues yet so everyone is having to buy things out of pocket which means upgrades are slow coming.
>>47243942http://www.wwiiequipment.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=74:6-pounder-anti-tank-gun&catid=40:anti-tank&Itemid=58Actually it's a litter more then a couple of mm I think depending on the round.
>>47244005but isn't that saying the same thing about german 50mm and german 75mm? There were different types and some more powerful then others.
>>47244013Actually yeah, that's a good 8-10mm on some of those shells. Been a while since I looked at the actual tables and I'd forgotten it was that pronounced. And holy shit the APCBC is wildly different between the two.
>>47244072That is what i'm saying, that is quite a chunk of armor in which if we had the proper ammunition or just had been closer the length of the barrel of ours and the Churchill is important.
>>47244065That's a different question entirely. The different barrels actually had distinct profiles which made them distinct from each other. Variants of the Six Pounder only having slight increases in armor penetration isn't the same thing.
>>47244005is 8-10mm marginal? that's almost a inch of armor penetration?
>>47244134So this is a matter of ascetics and not performance?
>>47244102Yeah, I also want that APDS ammo something fierce. 140mm pen with a 57mm round, don't mind if I do, and a sickeningly high muzzle velocity to boot. >>47244134Read the document he linked GS, it's interesting in its own right considering its the main tank's gun. >>47244139 Closer to .4 of an inch, but 10mm is still a big deal and the variance between APCBC on the two guns is 18mm, which is huge.
>>47244139>8-10mm>An inch.In any case, what does it matter? Are we going to start bothering Schteel about the exact angle enemy tanks are positioned with regards to our position? Do we have to start checking meteorology charts?
>>47244173Specifically, this document: >>47244013
>>47244176>>47244173sorry, lapse of judgement on my part, I was thinking of something else/
>>47244176Not really, seeing as we've already got the better of the two, but it's interesting to discuss the capabilities of Oliver. He's our tank after all.
>>47244173Kind of iffy on APDS ammo, from what I recall the reason why American and British didn't used APDS ammo was because it was very, very inaccurate from mid-long distinces in which a tank can normally hit with just AP rounds during world war 2.
>>47244139>>47244171>>47244173>>47244176It's a matter of keeping things simple for me to keep track of. I don't want to have to introduce six pounder variants which are barely different from each other and only cause headaches when I try to keep this all together for a match.
>>47244200The thing is German is not specific on it though which is a bit troubling and while Oliver has the later model gun, I'm not sure about the churchill since the mark Iv was the early variant iirc so I'm not sure if it used the short or long barrel 6-ponder.
>>47244209Mainly to do with adjusting, it's really really hard to observe fall of shot with APDS rounds because they're so fast and so small. On the 17 pounder armed Firefly this was exacerbated by poor optics and the impracticality of the weapon itself on that chassis. 6 Pounders actually had pretty good success using APDS, though it was basically all with towed AT guns by that point of the war. It was also way more common than the 76.2mm APDS used by the Firefly so it wasn't as much of a shame when you missed. >>47244230It mounted the Mark V.
>>47244224>>47244243So i assume, we'll be using the Mark V as the basis for all 6-pounders German?
>>47244287Yeah, use the Mark V.
>>47244243Where do you get your sources of which variant of the 6-pounder is equipped on the tank or AFV? I'm curious to see it for myself.
>>47244134Then what about the 75mm American guns? the M2 and M3 or the various Soviet and french guns that had different variants?
>>47244301I collect miniatures and have been to more than a couple tank museums. For instance I've been to the RAAC museum where that Cromwell I picture is from a few years back and it's clearly visible that it's mounting the 'long' 6 pounder. As for the Churchill that's mainly just from miniatures and wikipedia says so, plus pictures of it are pretty clear that the weapon is the L/50 version, though it ditches the muzzle break for a counterweight or loses it completely.
>>47244411Again, I don't really worry about all the different variants unless there's something absolutely noteworthy.
>>47244411The M2 is only on Early Lees though, not something we'd run into, and after that the various 75mm US guns that actually saw use on tanks are basically the same. Even the M6 on the Chaffe is only an inch shorter than the M3
>>47244432and in your research have their been any noteworthy things?
>>47244447True, but German does leave the designation on the m6 and the m3 on the shermans though despite the small difference.
>>47244490True, actually does anyone have any penetration charts for the M6 vs M3 guns?
>>47244418That is rather interesting. since in my research it is kind of hard which veriant belonged to which tank or which had a upgrade to these things.Does the 75mm M3 have better penetration power then the Mark V, if that's the case it it possible to put that on a late model CHurchill?
>>47244463Look, I'm going to make this very clear. Unless there is a substantial increase in armor penetration power, or a specific variant of a gun is specifically used for a specific variant of a tank, it doesn't matter.I'm simply trying to make my job QMing this Quest easier.
>>47244540and i understand that at this point I'm more interested in finding and comparing notes then what you previously already stated about not caring.
>>47244535Nah, from what I can find here: mr-home.staff.shef.ac.uk/hobbies/ww2pen3.pdfthe difference seems to be 1-2mm with APC at 500 yards, and even then it's still worse penetration wise than the 6 pounder. The OQF 6 pounder really is a very good AT gun, its main failings were in the domain of infantry suppression and taking on heavy tanks frontally. It's high velocity and high RoF make it a pretty horrifying thing to face in something like a Panzer III or IV.
>>47244540Yeah GS I think we're mainly just chatting about tonk guns now, we obviously don't expect too much realism from a GuP quest, or that much granularity from a quest in general.
>>47244628http://www.gutenberg.us/articles/75_mm_gun_(us)From what I could find, there is no real change in penetration and only a tiny decrease in muzzle velocity.
>>47244652I kind of did to some degree but i can see why German set it up this way and it doesn't break it for me. I'm honestly kind of happy we get more tank battles then the last LGA series.Which reminds me, we really need to upgrade our tank more.
>>47244690Yeah the M3 and Mk V 75mm are basically the same gun, firing the same shells. If however the original question was about the 6 Pounder Mk V, then the US 75mms get BTFO in the Pen department.>>47244745Yeah, wonder if we can completely refit the suspension and strengthen the whole setup.
>>47244771I wanted the camo net but no one cared especially for the ambush match we had today. Really, I thought the Mark V 75mm was weaker in penetration due to being a bore-out 6 pounder, or am I wrong?
>>47244814Yeah, but the difference was incredibly marginal according to all the figures I can fine, 1-2 milimetres at ranges of 1000 yards or less. Though finding anything for non-APC is hard. Neither was particularly good at AT work regardless.
>>47244870I would have to disagree on that at least for the M3 gun, considering it did well against what it faced against whihc was the Panzer III and IvsStill the 6 pounder was better. So in this case it will be 6-Pounder > 75mm M3 > and QF 75mm?
>>47244930They weren't bad/useless, but they weren't particularly good, between middling pen and low shell velocity, long range AT fire wasn't very effective and they generally had to close range or focus fire to achieve those kills. And that order's pretty much right for penetration, though I'd honestly say that the difference between an M3 and a QF 75 is so small as to be not really worth quantifying in anything beyond an academic sense.
>>47244987Actually let me qualify, low shell velocity isn't entirely fair, more like (again) average/middling. Everything about the 75mms, both UK and US can be described pretty well by the word 'adequate'. They were generally adequate in any one role but didn't offer a major advantage in any either.
>>47244987Huh well that's a shame since i kind of bash the QF 75mm, now due to this i have to acknowledge it now which is weird.
>>47245006I guess though it made me wonder why not just have 6-pounder cromwells.
>>47245015Nobody likes to be wrong, but it's pretty understandable. The internet tends to bash on Brits in WW2 a lot, especially when it comes to tanks. >>47245073Better HE on the 75mm for one and easier logistics for two. The QF 75mm fires the same rounds as the M3, which means you can ship all the same shells to a mixed unit, or transfer one shipment to another unit and it still be usable etc. It just makes the whole supply set up way easier and reduces the need to produce all these different shell types in the first place, not to mention giving you access to the dickloads of shells the yanks have lying around.
>>47245109Well to be fair the early models of the Cruiser Tanks kind of deserve it in terms of usage. > not to mention giving you access to the dickloads of shells the yanks have lying around.I think this was the main reason for making the QF 75mm, I mean if America was fitting the bill due to lend lease. Hell I recall that the british dump Hellcats off their carriers after the war because if they didn't they would have to pay for them once returning them.
>>47245151You'll find that was the case with pretty much everything Lend-Lease, because that was the agreement: If it's broke, you don't have to pay for it. For Britain, which had been basically bled dry by the war, if it wasn't needed immediately, break it, blow it up, dump it in an ocean or just forget about it somewhere. It was basically the tacit agreement of Lend-Lease anyway.
>>47245207True, though I wonder how American Lend Lease equipment was compared to the countries that received them own domestic products.I remember that quite a few tankers prefer the Sherman over the Cromwell. and i think the Soviets prefer the Sherman over the T-34 if only for the crew ergonomics iirc.
>>47245278Yeah, I've not actually seen any firsthand accounts from crews that went from Cromwells to Shermans and only a couple that went from Shermans to Cromwells, which generally say they liked the Sherman better, but if something isn't a huge upgrade to a soldier, they're always going to hate the new thing compared to the old thing because they knew how the old thing worked and were comfortable using it. >>47244745Doubt GS is gonna read this but one thing I would like to maybe see more granularity/realism in is rate of fire. It's one of the biggest appeals of peashooters like the 2 and 6 pounders and biggest downsides of 90mm or 122mm beasts but the current system of one shot per post unless elite irks me just a bit. Not enough to be anything close to dealbreaker, but just something I'd consider tinkering with.