From street-level to cosmic and everything in between, this is the thread to discuss all things superheroic, at least as tabletop games go. Mutants & Masterminds, Marvel Heroic, Heroes Unlimited, Dark Champions, Villains and Vigilantes, and any other system out there, this is the thread for you if you want to feel superhuman.Last thread: >>47180960Current topic: How big is your character's rogues gallery? Are they a good match for your hero/villain?
Recounting the current Statesmen from the last thread:SOUTH DAKOTA: Four Fathers (four-faced golem)MASSACHUSETTS: Black Minister II (beyond-the-grave punisher of sins)NEW MEXICO: Extrahuman (disguised Gray alien)WEST VIRGINIA: Ms Cryptic (reclusive moth lady detective)NEW JERSEY: Turnpike (drug-powered hero, currently a speedster)UTAH: Deseret (Super Mormon girl with flight and electric blasts)HAWAII: Pele (supposed incarnation of the Hawaiian goddess of volcanoes)WYOMING: The Black Hole/Null (Diminishes powers around him)OKLAHOMA: Tornado Allie (Sassy black girl with kinetic-powered aerokinesis)CALIFORNIA: Barnstormer (Cowgirl totemic from Kansas, leader of Hollywood's Blockbusters)KENTUCTY: Kentucky Rain (Elvis impersonator with hydrokinesis)ARIZONA: Alien God Killer [Nayenezgani] (Ancient Navaho god who specializes in aliens and extradimensional beasts)OHIO: Buckeye (super-durable heavy-handed successor trying to prove himself)FLORIDA: Waveracer (aquatic hero with strength, durability and claws)SOUTH CAROLINA: Palmetto Bug (strong, fast, tough, fast reflexes, minor flight, deaf, ugly)INDIANA: The Hoosier (mechanic and racer, drives a super souped-up racing car)TEXAS: Captain Justice (frail man with a defensive armored suit and non-lethal grenades)OREGON: The Weatherman (milennial with weather control and the ability to turn into weather phenomena)ALASKA: Dr. Glacier (human turned ice elemental)IOWA: The Librarian (keeper of an extradimensional library)MICHIGAN: The Brown Recluse (investigative journalist by day, genius crime fighter by night with a sweet car)MARYLAND: The Blue Crab (old seadog piloting his personal so-named reinforced submarine with pincers)NEBRASKA: Coyote (legendary trickster, wields magic, especially illusions)cont.
>>47200087GEORGIA: Johnny the Fiddler ("Devil Went Down to Georgia" for real)NEW YORK: Rat Pack (sentient rat hivemind living in the sewers)ILLINOIS: Ghost o' Jarone (Prohibition-era gangster turned undead skeleton)WASHINGTON; The Axeman (Man whose power revolves around absorbing life-forces around him and he wears a protective suit to protect those around him.)KANSAS: Fairy Finder (Enigmatic young girl that may or may not be Dorohy and may or may not have a fairy princess watching over her)TENNESSEE: The Haunter (Psychic whose powers manifest as an independant thought-being. Possibly most powerful psychic on earth.)VIRGINIA:Virginia Daring (Human not!Starfire)MAINE: George Bachmann (Grumpy demonologist with a heart of gold(possibly literally))DELAWARE: Fish Girl (Human/Thaule-hybrid, similar to Waveracer but with aquakinesis)MONTANA: Reverend Luther (Human Paragon that draws his power from "Words of God" and can access more power at a price)NEVADA: ATOMIC COWBOY (Cosmic-level cowboy specializing in gunning down Galactuses and Kaiju.)Did I forget anyone?
So what states haven't got a Statesman yet?
What´s the powerlevel difference between streetlevel and cosmic? Been reading through the cosmic handbook the numbers presented there a really broad in their scale.
>>47200092I think Maine agreed to rescind its figure so that Fisher-Girl could be the Statesman of Maine.
>>47200107Street-level is something like Batman, Hawkeye or Rorschach.Cosmic is more Superboy Prime, Silver Surfer, Dr. Manhattan.>>47200138last I checked they somewhat agreed on Fish Girl being Delaware or any free state with a large coastline.
>>47200092Fairy Finder was removed as Statesman of Kansas, in lieu of something a bit more down-to-earth.
>>47200151There seems to have been some kind of resolution to it, but I wasn't sure which way it went.>>47197103>>47197152>>47197187
>>47200092You're missing Alabama's Snakecharmer, Rhode Island's Herbert Hutchinson and the Unfathomable Otherthing, North Dakota's Rugaru, and Wisconsin's unnamed Swede who wields the Atgier of Gunnar and drinks the milk of Ymir's Cow for a power boost.
>>47200092You're missing...NORTH DAKOTA: Rugaru (Ape-man cursed by a witch)ALABAMA: Snakecharmer (Pentecostal mage specializing in healing, protection, and snake magic)VERMONT: Libertas (Spirit of freedom)PENNSYLVANIA: Pitt Fighter (Semi-retired old-school armoured hero)
>>47200145>last I checked they somewhat agreed on Fish Girl being Delaware or any free state with a large coastline.The last word on that discussion was>Alright, would it be cool if we have Bachmann be in the state but have Fisher-Girl the Statesmen [of Maine]?
>>47200209>>47200207Thanks guys, I wasn't sure if I'd gotten everyone or not
Thanks to whoever pointed out to me that our snakecharmer was the representative of Alabama.But I've been thinking more about the character so if people are cool with it I'd like to suggest him for Mississippi instead, anyways>The Ashman>Real name Eli Rhodes>As a young teen Eli took up smoking like many others to fit in. As his love for tobacco greatly increased, so did his attempts to keep people impressed, ultimately leading to his stealing an old Indian peace pipe and smoking from it. Smoking from this pipe opened a connection between him and the Country's native spirits, who taught him the arts of turning any smoke he could produce into arts, illusions, tools weapons and all sorts.>However this power came with the cost that he must remain one with spirits and nature, requiring him to become a drifter constantly sleeping under the stars and ensuring a healthy balance between man and the spirits>Now a little older and in his mid 20s, Eli is a little more knowledgable about the world, but still hotblooded and eager to entertain
>>47200102Off the top of my head, there's Idaho, Arkansas, Colorado, Minnesota, Mississippi, North Carolina, Delaware (if Fisher-Girl is representing Maine), New Hampshire, and Louisiana, though that last one may currently be worked on.Also Washington DC itself.
>>47200357Got one for D.C.
>>47200384got a better one.
>>47200357Don't forget the various territories, like Puerto Rico, the US Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, and the Northern Mariana Islands.
What the fuck does Idaho have besides potatoes?
>>47200527>>47200551The Shoshone Falls, for one.
>>47200563Hells Canyon, for another (though that's shared with Oregon and Washington).
>>47200563Superhero idea - a shoshone with powers over watre, whose favorite food are potatoes.
>>47200580>>47200563The Idaho Statesman could be some kind earthbending person or draw (some kind of) power from the earth.
>>47200580The Hell-keepers (Black Minister II, Johnny the Fiddler, and Ghost o' Jarone) have a hidden lodge in Hells Canyon where they conduct some of their business and keep tabs on what the Underworld's doing. There's a similar lodge in Death Valley, but fuck going to Death Valley.>>47200611That could work. We have a couple aerokinetics and hydrokinetics, but no geokinetics.
>>47200527The theme and powers don't necessarily have to be about the state. Idaho could very well just have a flying brick or a darkness shaper as their hero. Any concept can work for any state, really.
>>47200631They should still ostensibly represent at least part of their state's culture, at least on paper. It's why Florida's Statesman is an aquatic hero from Cuba who may be part-Atlantean and Utah's is a Mormon.
Arkansas Statesman: RazorbackA good old boy and college football star who was disgraced when it was discovered that he was taking an experimental supersteroid. Razorback begged his way into a nomination, seeing it as his chance for redemption in the eyes of his family and fans. He gets along well with Captain Justice and Ashman, and idolizes Atomic Cowboy, but has gotten into more than a few squabbles with Weatherman over their politics.Razorback's costume is a modified, armoured version of his college football uniform, with tusks and spines attached to the helmet. Residual effects of the supersteroid have left him with superspeed and -strength. Despite his brutish appearance Razorback possesses a keen tactical mind.
>>47200710Sure, but that state's culture could be as tenuous as "the only hero born and raised in Boise." Yes, the Boise Bubble Boy is a whiz with those shimmering spherical force fields he can make!
>>47200717>keen tactical mind>FUCK IT I'M GOING DEEP
>>47200087The Hoosier from Gary: A former member of the Statesmen. He was a former astronaut who gained the ability to project an Venus-like atmosphere around himself. He was a living weapon of mass suffocation for a while - often clashed with other Statesmen over him going too far.Turned out his powers came from an alien parasite, and he became a sentient cubic-mile storm of toxic gases. The Statesmen took it down, and the government disappeared it - they're totally not keeping it just in case, you guys.
>>47200092as someone from GA. fuck that guy. lol
>Emerald Blaze (Delaware)Born of an extremely well-to-do family (in a state where corporations outnumber the population), Cassandra Carter was - and still is, to an extent - as blue-blood as they come. Despite this, she insisted on not being pampered (too much) and eventually developed a legitimate interest in aviation, what with the Dover Air Force Base in the area. She earned her pilot's license and was soon in the skies. However, while flying over Nevada, a violent cosmic crosswind caused by a clash between the Atomic Cowboy and a new device the famed Doc Chase was testing buffeted and wrecked Cassandra's plane, causing her to crash in the desert. Miraculously, however, she survived and found herself with new and amazing powers.Cassandra had newfound control over a radiant green energy that subsumed her. She could project and control this energy from her body in various ways, such as releasing blasts of power, creating a destructive aura around her that lets her destroy whatever she touches, internalize her energy for increased strength, project a protective shield around herself that also protects her from the elements and even allows her to breathe in space and underwater, and even fly. Her skin turned a little pale and her eyes turned green, but she can live with that much.Cassandra returned to Delaware safe and sound and promptly made a name for herself using this "emerald fire" as a hero. With a specially-comissioned jumpsuit (seen here in partial undress), the energy controller christened herself the Emerald Blaze; she promptly rose to local prominence and was a shoe-in for the Statesmen. Plus, she gets to fly all she wants with her powers, and what better feeling is that?
North Carolina Statesman: HolograhamBack when he was human Graham Buchanan was an engineer working on light-based teleportation technology for a firm in Raleigh. One night he was working late in the lab, too engrossed in his work to notice that a tornado warning had been posted. When the tornado blew through it caused a catastrophic accident, exposing Graham to the raw energies of his prototype teleporter. Thought dead by the world, Graham painstakingly reconstituted himself out of the photonic substance his body had been transmuted into. For him, the Statesmen are as much of a support group of fellow freaks as a superhero team. Holograham maintains frequent correspondence with Dr. Glacier, who he sees as the only one on the team with a scientific mind to match his own.Power-wise Holograham is able to project hard light holograms like a much weaker Green Lantern, and produce silent illusions. As a being of light he's immune to many of the frailties of humanity.
>>47199970> How big is your character's rogues gallery?Roughly Spidey-sized at this point.>Are they a good match for your hero/villain?I don't know what this means in this context.Are they of equal power? Do they make food foils? Is one an "Evil Knockoff" of the hero? Does one have an obsessive love for the hero that makes his/her crazy and evil?
>>47200218>>47200087bachmann here, I had to run to a meeting. Go ahead and make fisher-girl the maine hero.
>>47202548Especially since we now have a proper Delaware hero.
>>47200357someone has mentioned several times that they are making a bog witch hero for louisiana. To avoid the Maine problem I advise we hold off on making that hero for a little bit.
>>47202628Maybe we ought to make a Cape World wiki on 1d4chan or something?
>>47203333If nobody is against it, sure go ahead.
>>47203333Good idea. There is a pastebin in the last thread with some of the statesmen descriptions. When I get off work today I will try to get some of the other teams recorded in the same way.
>>47203640The majority of it was for the usa, right?Can´t remember if we did with japan and germany more than honor/competition and shame.
>>47200087>UTAH: Deseret >Super Mormon girl I grew up in Utah, you have no idea happy I am to see this
>>47203742There's been material done up for Hollywood, Las Vegas, Japan, Germany and the UK at least, not counting the original /shg/ team.
>>47203840well, Utah is Mormon central after all
>>47203840Hey, you're welcome. Her thing is that she's definitely a Mormon, and dutifully follows their suggestion to be Deseret when she becomes a Statesmen (wearing a very basic flight suit with some yellow and black motif). But she's even more a FAN of superheroes and REALLY wanted to be called Taser or The Fulminator thanks to her flight and electric blasts. So while she's following orders, she's also constantly thinking of going AWOL and having some real superhero fun.
>>47199970hey guys, I've tossing around a idea for a Canadian superhero in my head and I'd like to hear some ideas for what his powers could be seeing as I'm not really good at that sort of thing.>storm troopera member of the Canadian Expeditionary Force young Alex Addy (names a WIP) was issued a seemly normal Ross rifle to use as a sniper. however this gun was unique compared to it's brethren as it's wood was made from a forest where a first nation tribe made shaman staffs from.during the battle of Ypres the magic in the wood activated giving Alex power over storms, allowing him to push away much of the chlorine gas as his poor control of the magic could.he then spent much of ww1 and 2 battling other supers until he retired having become a national icon for many Canadians during that era. his grandson would later find the magic gun and become the storm trooper of the 21st century but that a story for a another time. now I have a bit of a issue on what having control over storms would mean in terms of superpowers, especially for a soldier. I'd like to hear any ideas you guys have for something like that.one idea I had was that when ever he used the powers a very small storm would show up messing up the aim everyone but him. think a weaponized version of the storm clouds that show up over a cartoon characters head when they get sad.what do you guy's think good, bad or ugly?
>>47204288we should make a canadian team.
>>47204332one thing at a time, we gotta finish the statesmen too.
>>47204332Shouldn´t we finish the other´s first?
>>47200357>Washington DCshould be a superpowered member of the Secret Servicealso has anyone uploaded all the prior threads onto Sup/tg/ yet?
>>47204405>should be a superpowered member of the Secret Servicemaybe make him have the perfect body guarding powers? something like shen's from LOL ultimate where he can teleport to someone and make them invulnerable for a sort time?
>>47204486Maybe he can bind his soul to other individuals (the president, vice prez, first lady, secretary of state, etc.) and can sense whenever a person bonded with him is in distress or danger and can either teleport to them or transport them to him or something.
>>47204520>>47204486>>47204405writing something up, give me a sec
>>47204598Ok guys, what do you thinkWASHINGTON DCThe Representative AKA Pubic ServiceIt took years of lobbying by the residents of the District of Columbia for their resident hero to be included in the Statesmen, which is unfortunate, because it is hard to imagine a better fit for the team than the politically minded Representative. Born the son of a civil servant and a schoolteacher, Ed Norton has spent his entire life fighting to preserve the ideals of justice and the democratic process. OriginsWhile finishing his law degree at Yale, Ed led a campaign to convert the school to clean energy using an experimental reactor designed by the school’s student engineers. The reactor generates infinite energy by moving atoms along spiritual lay lines. (see black minister, fairy finder)campaign was a brilliant success despite vocal opposition from the school board, and for his help Ed was allowed to press the button bringing the reactor online. As the reactor came on line the surrounding area was converted to intangible energy for a brief moment, including Ed. When he flickered back into reality, Ed was forever changed. He found that he possessed abilities far beyond the ordinary man. He can make himself intangible at will, allowing him to pass through objects. He can teleport across the globe in an instant. At will he can phase atoms of his body into another person, allowing him to a limited telepathic bond with that individual. His connection to the spiritual plane also permits him limited precognition.Since his election to the Statesmen, Ed has spent the majority of his time defending the President from superpower threats. However, he still thinks that civil advocacy is the real way to save the world.
>>47204690basically a bodyguard that can teleport to his subject and foresee any attack on them?Yup, perfect bodyguard material.
>>47204690*public, not pubic. I cannot believe that i made that mistake.
>>47204780Pubic Service was categorically denied entry into the Statesmen.
CharGen in FASERIP sucks assany good houserules?
>>47204780>>47204963It was actually this clerical error that prevent Public Service from being allowed to join the Statesmen for so long, not any objection to allowing DC a superhero. The people of the district are super sensitive about not having a voting representative tho, so they just assumed that they were being oppressed.
>>47199970I'm just starting to work on the Rogue's Gallery now that I have the Hero- Knight Errant! The Immortal Knight with a collection of magical artifacts collected from across time!I'm thinking that maybe play up the future-clash between Knight Errant's whole look and equipment by making all of the villians tech-based? Thoughts, dear /tg/ ?
>>47205072throw in the whole medieval sense of ethics and righteousnesslook to Shining Knight for examples. the following clip is great, sorry i couldn't get better qualityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13RU29IGg9I
>>47205072That's one way to do it. Then again, the Flash has Captain Cold as an archenemy, while Wonder Woman has Cheetah. Make of that what you will.
>>47205158Oh that's definitely a thing I'm going with, the Knightly Code of Chivalry and all tying into their powers from the Magic Armor>>47205184I suppose that's true too! I'll have to think on it some more
>>47200352I was about to suggest Modern Day Warrior (joke off Tom Sawyer) for Mississippi. But then again I can't remember if Huck Finn or Tom Sawyer took place in Missouri or Mississippi anyways.
COLORADOMountain LionAbbey Grant was a high profile environmental terrorist who served 20 years in prison for her connection to a plot to destroy the Hoover Dam. Her time in the penal system instilled in her a fierce respect for the ideals of justice and order. She created the persona of Mountain Lion upon her release in order to protect these ideals. Many people find her tactics unnecessarily ruthless, but her unrivaled ability to bring wrongdoers to justice earned her the respect of the public and a spot with the Statesmen. If the public every learned her true identity however, there is no question that she would be unceremoniously voted out.As Mountain Lion, Abbey relies on the skills of tactical guerrilla warfare she acquired as an environmental terrorist. 20 years in prison have also left her in peak physical condition and an incredibly skilled hand-to-hand fighter.
New Hampshire Statesman: UshabtiA golem-like magical construct animated by a Dartmouth College secret society who dabbled in ancient Egyptian magic. After the society's magical mishaps came to light, those responsible were promptly expelled, though Ushabti was allowed to remain on the college grounds and became something of a Dartmouth mascot. Over the years Ushabti has protected the college from threats both internal and external, from berserk robotic engineering projects to an insane psychic looking to drain the brains of its staff. When the spot on the Statesmen for New Hampshire opened up, Dartmouth students rigged the voting system to guarantee the position for Ushabti.Ushabti tends to be quiet, dour, and practical, though it is fiercely loyal towards those it considers its charges, and has a tremendous appetite for learning. It has weakly superhuman durability from its clay body, though Ushabti's true power lies in its immense knowledge base, having studied with the best and brightest of Dartmouth for decades.
>>47205726i really like this one! it feels unique.
by my count we are at 44 statesmen!
So is all this Chargen going to amount to something?
>>47206145Yes. A huge roster of heroes you can pull out of your ass whenever you're GMing a capes game.
>>47206145A setting people can take advantage of. Plus, it's healthy exercise.
>>47206107more than that I think. we are only missing Idaho, Louisiana, Connecticut and Minnesota, plus all of the territories. is there something else?
>>47205184Batman has the Joker. And beyond additional theming on top of that, there was no historical precedent for Bats and Clowns to hate eachother.Heroes with diametric opposites do exist.Superman's Brawn vs Bainy Brainiac/Lex Luthor.Captain America vs Red Skull, a stinkin' Nazi.Thor and Loki are a mythological reference.There's also an element of straight up inversions of eachother.Aquaman and your choice of either Black Manta or Ocean Master.Willpowered Green Lantern vs Fearsome SinestroOr the relatively obscure, The Darkness and the Angelus.
>>47206145Yep, basically this >>47206169 and this >>47206181We're trying to put together a rules agnostic setting, complete with history and characters for use in super hero games. You might not use the setting, but having 50 concepts for superheroes (or villains) lying around isn't a bad thing.
>>47205184>Flash has Captain Coldcold is a lack of movement>Wonder Woman has CheetahWondy preaches peace, love and understandingCats are made of hate
>>47206237also bats are humorless and spiders hate goblins
>>47206237And Captain Cold isn't just about cold, he's about absolute zero, the point at which there absolutely no movement of any sort. He is the only ice-based character in DC that can do absolute zero, and is thus the perfect counter to the Flash.
>>47206210Minnesota also has some Viking-ness much like Wisconsin. But it also borders one of the great lakes.And we could use another aquatic hero.The Lake Superior Monster, Ogopogo. A long thought extinct plesiosaur that formed a telepathic rapport with a local minnesota kid. Becoming a sort of Lassie by way of Gamera.
>>47206300I don't mind doing a lake themed hero, but we already have two 'children whose best friend is a monster' in the Statesmen.
>>47206311Well lets go with the Gamera route then. The Lake Superior Monster is a "friend to all children" that rushes to anyone's need. No kid tagalong. Just a generally friendly giant monster.
>>47206237>Wondy preaches peace, love and understanding>Cats are made of hateDepending on Cheetah's origin, she's either a grave robber, stealing the relics of Wonder Woman's home, or cursed by the gods in the same way that Wonder Woman is blessed.
>>47206359I wrote up a Minnesota hero too, mind if we put it to a vote?Erik the RedErik grew up in a little town that time forgot in central Minnesota, on the shores of pristine lake and just off the edge of the prairie. His was the quintessential midwestern life, a loving family, church on the weekends, football in the backyard with his friends. His parents never wanted nor expected him to grow up into anything but a happy, ordinary person. However ,this wasn’t exactly the case. Erik did grow up, into a hulking 8 foot tall giant of a man. Each of his arms has the thickness and strength of a gnarled old oak tree, and his chest brings to mind the freight ships which carry iron across Lake Superior. His unnatural size and strength blue his kind demeanor however, and he is capable of surprising gentleness.Fighting evil emerged naturally from Erik’s desire for everyone to get along, and soon he found himself appointed to the Statesmen. He took the name Erik the Red as a reference to his favorite football team, the Vikings.
>>47206510I think you got more information down for your hero idea than I do mine. So I'm entirely okay if Erik becomes Minnesota's representative.Perhaps we can go with the Lake Monster as a hero that patrols ALL the great lakes. Honorary Statesmen as representative of some of America's natural wonders?
Anyone got any quick requests?
>>47206780Well, not everything has to be part of a group. This is a setting too, remember? The fact that there's a Lake Monster that patrols all the Great Lakes can just be a thing that happens. It even has baked in story hooks, from the basic "We thought it was evil, fought it, and then found out it was actually good!" to something more complicated, even mystic. Like maybe research into the Lake Monster discovers that it travels so quickly from lake to lake because it's accessing a portal system that links ALL the lakes in the US together through a small, watery dimension. What else lurks in those murky, freshwater depths?
>>47206906Waveracer and Fisher-Girl with the SICK BANTZ underwater
>>47206906hey man! welcome back. would love to see some art of blue crab, brown recluse or rat pack
>>47206906The concept that someone posted up above. The Blue Crab and Waveracer having a conversation while The Blue Crab's pilot lounges in a deckchair on the top of his crab-shaped submersible.
>>47204405I think the Washington DC Statesman needs two key points.-They practically scream "MURICA!" -They're the leader of the Statesmen
>>47206906Reverend Luther, Ghost o'Jarone, Alien God Killer and Pele all sitting together at a table, drinking coffee and discussing theology.
>>47206906Rugaru and the Reverend in an arm-wrestling contest
>>47201319Can't go wrong with the classic "young adult gets in freak accident and gains immense power, feels absolutely amazing" origin. The cosmic crosswinds likely infused her with a shitton of energy from the ether; the glowing eyes reflects her body brimming with the stuff. She likely had one of those "I've never felt so alive!" moments.
For the old Marvel Superheroes RPGshould I go with Basic or Advanced?
>>47206961 All three aquatic heroes on display. Just a quick sketch. Mostly to litmus test the designs. I was debating on giving the Blue Crab's Captain a more Captain Haddock or Popeye look. Fishergirl has a sort of generic merfolk design at the moment. Might try incorperate some more of the previous legacies elements into the design. Bandanna, yellow outfit a la sailor rain coat. >>47206930the hell are Bantz? Muscles? Fitness? I can give that a shot.
>>47207264batz=banterwould love to see Hoosier, Brown recluse, and Ghost o'jarone in a drag race.
>>47207264Definitely more haddock, I think. When I was thinking of him, it was basically like, "What if Quint from Jaws wasn't a drunken asshole?"
>>47206906Ghost o' Jarone and Johnny the Fiddler both holding violin cases. Johnny's is open, and inside is his Golden Fiddle. Jarone's, on the other hand, is shut. He looks at Johnny with an eyebrow raised, asking "Wait, you carry an actual instrument in yours?" While Johnny just gives Jarone the "Tired of your bullshit" look
http://pastebin.com/vPrgenKhUpdated pastebin for the Statesmen.question: When were the statesmen created? We know that Blue Crab was one of the founding members, but that there have been three generations of Hoosiers in the team. Who were the other founding members? who are the oldest heroes? Libertas probably was one.
>>47207380I imagine them to be a few decades old at the most, probably created in the bicentennial fervor of '76.
>>47207380you would think that a superhero team where the members are elected would be mostly conventional heroes, but no. it is basically a loose association of gods, aliens, alien gods, ghosts and monsters with the odd vigilante thrown in.Cape World US has some weird voters.
>>47207486I think it's more due to the Statesmen not being taken very seriously as a heroic organization, the more popular conventional heroes tend to go to more prestigious teams.
>>47207486Embrace the weirdness!I think it's sort of because the hero community as a whole knows that the Statesmen are kind of a sham, since they're not officially allowed to do a whole hell of a lot. It's mostly PR.
>>47207380>>47207403If it's around that time, then the oldest members would most likely be Blue Crab, Libertas, maybe Ms. Cryptic, possibly Dr. Glacier, Black Minister II, Four Fathers (of course they needed a mascot), Alien God Killer, maybe Cleveland Steel (Buckeye's predecessor), Palmetto Bug?, maybe the first Hoosier was getting close to retirement at the time, at least one instance of Captain Justice, possibly the Librarian, and others.Who are the oldest amongst them?In order of Oldest-youngest: Alien God Killer, Pele/Coyote (depends on if they're actually the gods), Libertas, Atomic Cowboy, Black Minister II/Blue Crab/Reverend Luther (really hard to pinpoint which one is actually the oldest), then they get harder to rank as they get closer to the 'current time'.
>>47207581if we say that the first Hoosier was the Hoosier from Gary, he canonically didn't so much as retire as turn into an evil parasitic dust cloud. Cleveland steel should definitely be a founding member. The first Captain Justice as well, and Libertas. along with Blue Crab that gives us four founding members.I don't feel like Cryptic, Alien God Killer, or Black Minister are civic minded enough to found the team.
>>47207663>>47207663did heroes start the statesmen? I thought congress just kind of decided to make it a thing and hold elections.
>>47207380way I pictured it is that the statesmen have 3 odd generations.The first generation created early 20th century, not as a real team, but more of a fluff piece in a magazine about the "Heroes of the Nation" vibe. Not an official team, just a big list of costumed crimefighters. Can even be pre-Alaska, Hawaii, Arizona and New Mexico. Generation 2 is when it officially became a team, could be around post war 50's america and/or the Bicentennial >>47207403 (around then where they get a full proper team). that attempts at a proper team were made, the Blue Crab is a part of this generation. Generation 3 is the modern age. >>47207367This is a quick sketch. The design for johnny is mostly an aged up version of the Primus video protag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uk9IcoQ0w
>>47207663Well, the Black Minister's story basically states that the FBI forced him into it whether he wanted to or not, and the timespan fits, so it's entirely believable that he'd be one of the founders. Cryptic discovered like 15% of the current statesmen, so I simply put her in there.And I placed Alien God Killer there because he's just so fucking old.
>>47207696forgot to post my image! How shameful!
I have a concept for a Connecticut hero but I need you guys to tell me how lame it isConnecting Cut "The Man with Steady Hands"Basically an egotistical sword guy who has studied every kind of swordfighting, from kendo to fencing and everything in between.is it worth it for the pun?
I think with Louisiana we might be done.MADAM DELPHINEThe Voodoo priestess of Louisiana (something like a state-wide sorcerer supreme) specializing in using water as a conduit for her spirit and Loa summoning. She became Vodoo priestess by defeating the previous (her own mother) in a duel-non lethally of course. One tends to not kill readily when one believes in ghosts.Normally voodoo practitioners have spirits and gods "ride" them. Madam Delphine, being a young practitioner mistress of the mystic arts (in her 20's), breaks tradition by having her summons inhabit water. But Vodoo has always been an eclectic, evolving religion. The old guard support the ways in which she evolves magic. The more water, the more spirits she can summon to inhabit it.Her figuring for her style of magic is that spirits that like to inhabit human bodies must like water. Humans are mostly water. So with a little tweaking of the old spells she was able to summon ghosts -through- water so long as she has a lot of it on hand, which is why she usually keeps watch on the bayous and coasts and beaches of Louisiana.Her most common "summon' is Jean Lafitte and his pirate crew. She can summon them in the water or draw them all into her to make herself super strong.On land she dressed very prim and proper, almost like a delicious brown Scarlet O'Hara. But in a flash of magic she can strip herself of her clothes and appear sort of like pic related, ready to fight in an outfit that won't restrict her movements in the water (and makes men crazy).
>>47208368connecticut and wisconsin.
>>47208368She is a mischievous, roguish young woman. She likes playing pranks and practical jokes with her water-ghosts. It probably comes from hanging out with ghost pirates all day. She's the 4th member of the "water squad", and Blue Crab's headaches have never been larger. She delights in setting up a romantic triangle with herself, Fisher-Girl, and Waveracer. She finds it good, spirited competition. May the best girl win Florida's Finest-and she intends to. She likes to tease Fish-Girl with the fact that she's beaten her in sparring more than she's beaten her, but Fish-Girl replies that having an aquatic army is cheating and that one-on-one she has the most wins.>>47208348Okay, NOW I think we're done. And Connecting Cut sounds cool. Load him up with some weird super-science and magic swords imported from around the world.>>47208376I thought wisconsin was the "drinks the milk of Ymir's cow" guy?Any idea for "sub teams'? We got the "Aqua team", the "Cryptic team", and "The cosmic Dream Catcher" team so far.
>>47208443The Black Minister, Johnny the Fiddler, and Ghost o' Jarone are the Hell-Keepers like >>47200623 said.Snakecharmer, the Reverend, and Deseret could be the Christpals or something.
>>47208443CONNECTICUTConnecting Cut“The Man with Steady Hands”James Hutchling loved reading stories of great knights and warriors as a kid. He spent his childhood practicing swordplay with fallen sticks in his backyard. When he turned fourteen he left home, and traveled across the world studying all variety of sword-based martial arts. He studied fencing in Spain, Kendo and Kenjutsu in Japan, gladiatorial combat in Rome, and historical european martial arts in England. He also became a keen student of metallurgy during this time period, learning to forge and repair his swords. Having mastered every conceivable style of sword-based combat, Hutchling set out to uncover the great historical weapons of the past. Hutchling tracked down the Sword of Troy to a small village off the coast of the Caspian sea. The sword was an heirloom of a family of fishermen. Hutchling threatened to slaughter the family unless they surrendered the sword, but an old man stepped forward to challenge him. The old man fought Hutchling to a standstill, and would have killed him had the young swordsman not fled. Confused and hurt, Hutchling could not understand why he had lost the duel. Eventually he decided that the old man had won because he had been protecting his family, and that the truest path to strength lay in having people to protect. He returned to his home in Connecticut, resolving that he would become the state’s champion and in so doing acquire the strength to defeat the old man and claim his sword.At any given time Connecting Cut carries an Urumi (flexible whip like sword from india), A great sword, a chinese broadsword, a katana, a gladius, an epee, a khopesh, and any variety of shortswords and knives. He also has access to a variety of specialized and enchanted weapons, acquired throughout his travels across the world. He generally uses these weapons when the situation requires it.
>>47208539well, they're all with wildly different sects of christianity... so the PR and media thing would be to lump together these "guardian angels", but their cooperation and actions would be a lot more based around their personal opinions of each other, and they'd probably try to avoid religious discussions while doing superhero work.
>>47208443the Hoosier, Ghost O'jarone, and the Brown Recluse are all in the same area and all use specialty cars in their day-to-day activities. they could be The Road Warriors or something.
>>47208664so I'm guessing he's sort of the team asshole given that that the whole reason he's a superhero is cause he really wants a sword.not that's a bad thing, every time needs a jerk to make drama happen.
>>47208781yeah, i want him to be an egotistical prick.
do we have an idaho?
>>47207663I agree. Captain Justice I, Libertas, Blue Crab, And Cleveland Steel make a good "founding core". The other guys are probably old routine members but they don't feel like "faces" for the team.Other founding members besides these four were probably rotated off and are involved with other teams and projects and whatnot. They do have elections every year or so the keep the roster fresh.>>47207486It's sort of like "Ms America" for capes. Its not composed of necessarily who would make the best "protectors" or who is the strongest. America has other "JLA" style super teams.You get people that vote just on the novelty factor of the nominations alone. No one wants to just have a "captain Nebraska". They want someone colorful.So you have guys that vote for Virginia Daring just because she's walking hotness in a bikini that wrestles around with scantily clad super villianesses and guys that vote for Fisher-Girl because a Fischer has ALWAYS been Maine's favorite protector and guys that vote for Rat Pack because "Dude our state rep is a rat hive mind that's awesome!">>47206906Something cute with Fairy Finder. Maybe staring at Extrahuman and being all "Are you...a fairy?">>47207264I pictured Fisher-Girl being more human looking. but I've changed by opinion based on how good she looks.Nice Aqua team we got, just add in Madam Delphine.Also Blue Crab's mech is totally awesome looking. I bet's its totally comfy looking inside.That's another idea of something to draw, the inside of the Blue Crab.
>>47208695So the Brown Recluse is a play off the Green Hornet right? Just double checking. cause damn do I like a suave suit.What's Hoosier's car like? Something realistic or some kind of Ed Roth-esque hotrod? >>47208821Fits what I've heard vaguely about with Connecticut from a Northeastern dwelling friend.Rich and Waspy. >>47208852Not sure. Is it Potato Themed? What about Missouri?
>>47208904It's great! the recluse is spot on.from the pastebin:The current incarnation (of the hoosier) is Jake Davis, nicknamed Crossroad before he made the Statesmen, who drives an incredibly souped-up racing car packed with Bond-style gadgets. He's so new his car still has his old Crossroad logo on it.I picture like a speed racer type deal.
>>47208904I assume an Indy car.
Someone remind me what Atlanteans are like? I have a villain idea...
>>47208881I might also make fisher girl more human. she looks a little too obviously Merfolk-y here for a "halfbreed" might just stick with webbed toes and hands. and pink skin. By no means final just rough color play. Yellow and black seemd to be colors that had connections to her paternal legacy. >>47208978Oh of course. Duh. Damn I didn't make the association in my head sooner.
>>47209004The original description said no webbed hands or feet, pink skin, and blank blue eyes (no iris).
I need help - starting a campaign tomorrow, and I haven't picked a system or a setting. I'm planning to have a character creation session to give me some breathing room but still.I may fall back on HERO but I want something a bit more free-flowing and less number-crunchy
>>47209047I've had fun with mutants and mastermindsFor settings you should do Cape World. We've all had so much fun building it, somebody should play it at least.
>>47209070>mutants and masterminds>instead of HEROoh shit nigger what are you doing
>>47209035Yeah, I wrote it up. But I like her looking as she does now.
>>47208904yeah, I don't think we have a missouri either.
>>47208852Oh crap, I just checked the pastebin. No we do not.I guess there ARE a few holes in the roster.What's in Idaho besides Potatoes?Could its hero be some sort of big bean-shaped Amazo robot that changes its "face" based on what powers and abilities its using...you can see where I'm going with this, but is that too silly?
>>47209159Some kind of earthbender-thingy was suggested for Idaho in the last thread, I think
>>47209121Idaho, Missouri, MinnesotaI THINK that's all the missing states. Curse my Amerifat-level geography skills.
>>47209070Is there even anything to Cape World outside of this cast of characters? Because if there is I haven't seen it.
>>47209159It's known as the Gem State? So Amethyst knockoff maybe?Although I like the idea of having two multi-faced robots on the team.
>>47209197There's been characterizations of cities and countries, most notably Hollywood/LA, Las Vegas, the UK, Japan and Germany.
>>47209197There's the statesman, the daggers, the blockbusters, all the Germany heroes and all of the Japan heroes
>>47209187Right. It was suggested earlier in the thread that the Idaho rep be a geokinetic, like Terra.
>>47209192We have a Minnesota, Erik the Red. We also talked once about doing the territories
>>47209035Okay my bad. then. This is sort of my stock Merfolk design.>>47209159South Dakota has a fourfaced golem based off of Mt. Rushmore with an extra punny name. A sort of organic robot that swaps its face around isn't out of the question. Perhaps instead of a robot with a mr. Potato head face, its a collection of Facial features that can plug themselves into things and allow it to spring to life.Legs plug into a tree and it uproots itself to bat away some criminals. Eyes are plugged into the door of a vault to keep an eye out for theives.that said it is the Gem State>>47209200So some gemstone based hero isn't out either.
What if we just made Idaho's statesman have the power to grow potatoes, and make him the "Aquaman" of the Statesmen?
>>47209364He's super strong, fast, durable and can fly, but only when in proximity of potatoes.
>>47209297I like the geokinetic angle. Down on the farm girl, not a lot of interest in politics, uses her powers to keep people in line and till the firlds
>>47209386He has a 'young ward' sidekick named Smallfry.
>>47209364A scientist who discovered the true power of the Potato as a renewable energy source. Grows them en masse, and then also uses the "SuperSpuds" to power all sorts of gadgets. His achievements are very real and very useful. He could probably cure cancer with genetically engineered spuds if given the chance.But people don't give him much creditBecause Potatoes.
>>47209364His touch can turn anything in potatoesif touches a potato, it turns into the last non potato thing he touched
So to put all that together:A modular-face robot powered by potatoes that can telekinetically manipulate gemstones using martial arts, but can't get any respect from the public at large.
>>47209409No one can defeat Dr. Tuberous and his Sputastic Potato Gun!
Let's...not do potatoes?
>>47209455That sounds like a very Jojo superpower.
>>47209548are you kidding? any one of these dozens of potato themed heroes is a solid gold idea.
>>47209561One could say Yukon Gold.
Kurt Russet is Potato Man
>>47209561>>47209561It's a little too cheesy, even for me.
>>47209602Oh holy shit, that is it, that is the Hero's name.I think we can synthesize these ideasA food scientist named Dr. Tuberous is working on developing a machine that recombines potato DNA into any conceivable substance. but SOMETHING GOES WRONG and the machine gains sentience. Now the android YUKON GOLD protects the people of Idaho, using his ability to change shape and manipulate potato matter.
>>47209548A superhero that gains powers by absorbing the qualities of various Idaho Gemstones.Solar powered flight, and cosmic beams from the Star Garnet.Shooting invisible fire from the Pinfire opalHarlequin Opal is a laughter aura.Bruneau Jasper lets them melt into the ground and travel that way.Who knows how they react to other gemstones.
>>47209642>I think we can synthesize these ideasYou mean we should "mash" them together?Well, good ideas take time, so lets not russet
>>47209409I really like this idea.>But people don't give him much creditMaybe have him bordering ever closer to that "turning to a life of crime as a mad scientist after lack of recognition" thing. Don't actually ever go there, keep the potato scientist as an under-appreciated good guy, but every once in a while have a little comment on the potentially apocalyptic nature of his true power>There is enough dormant energy within these spuds to burn the world 10 times over any nuclear holocaustPotato scientist is under-appreciated, overlooked, and often scorned but in truth posses near-limitless potential. Much like the potato itself.
>>47209642The Yukon is in Alaska, though.
>>47209760Maybe in Cape World famines just aren't a thing anymore. Dr. Tuberous quietly ended them a long time ago.
>>47209789oh shoot. you're right. I still like shape-shifting potato powered android though. kind of martina manhunter meets amazo meets red tornado
>>47206780oh, I expect there can be a lot of heroes that cross state borders for their own reasons who don't fit as Statesman. Captain Texarkana, Four Corners, and the Quad City Quartet to name a few.
>>47209815>>47209760casting my vote for unappreciated but effective potato scientist.
>>47209656I think that could work. What about the details? Like, how do they swap between them or actively channel it?
>>47209909Probably some Infinity Gauntlet-looking thing.
>>47209909but the gemstones are consumed in the process.
>>47209846No Reason Dr. Tuberous couldn't have invented the Tater Titan. >>47209909I'd argue its more like "releasing the potential" of a gemstone. The powers are in stones all along, just a little extra energy unleashes the abilities inherent into each rock. Much akin to some of that gemstone homeopathy stuff. You know, except useful and badass.
>>47209920Possible additional effect: have their eyes take on the appearance of the gem while its being actively channeled.
>>47209937I like this - feels kind of like Mistborn.
>>47209815>World of superheroes>Grown men in tights run around punching bank robbers and rescuing people>Newspaper headlines proudly display your face and name for saving a dozen people>Mayor hands you the key to the city for saving a hundred people>Get your name, face, history and good deeds permanently recorded in extraterrestrial/extratemporal/extradimensional archives of the greatest heroes of all time for saving a thousand people>Engineer new, robust, calorie-enriched potatoes in a variety of flavors>End world hunger>New headlines show that Virginia Daring saved another handful of beach-goers from Beach Babe>Hyper-dimensional archives of the gods/aliens/whateverthissettinghassomecrazyshit are full of records of their bikini-clad battle>Everyone calls you "the potato scientist"
>>47209937This would make for a neat cap on their power.They consume more common and generic gemstones for simple powers, fireballs, ice breath, charming, telekinesis, but its used up.The rarer gem alloys or weird stuff leads to weirder powers. Invisible fire, riding on solar winds, generating bismuth structures. The more I talk about this gemstone hero the more I think they should be more generalized rather than Idaho's specific hero. Mostly because I also like the potato super scientist idea too. That is unless there's a full on Idaho Team.
>>47209321She's wonderful!She's one of my favorite characters I've written up, up there with Ms Cryptic and Fairy Finder. She has a huge legacy and can fit in with a lot of people because of it: legacy heroes, low power heroes, aquatic heroes, WW2 heroes, German heroes, Thule people, Mystic Archipelago...She's fun!>>47209815>>47209953I like where this is going. Dr Tuberous could be like that one guy that saved millions by inventing a stronger strain of wheat and got a noble prize for it. Earth is such a breadbasket because he and other guys worked to invent super-agriculture that it exports food to starving alien worlds.Dr Tuberous isn't too good in a head on fight so he's like the other "team" members of the Statesmen. He has a buddy that fights for him in the form of gem-powered Tater Titan.The earth bender could be like The Gasser, a much loved cape that got second in the elections but will probably when the next time voting is on.Farmgirl tomboys are patrician taste.So everyone for DR TUBEROUS AND HIS TATER TITAN?
>>47210049Looks good to me.
>>47210042>TeamDr Tuberous, Tater Titan, That farmgirl tomboy...Maybe sense they're so Earth themed they deal with subterranean stuff? I remember when we talked about "Cape Hollow Earth" last thread someone came up with the idea of having Pellucidar, mole people, and Jack Kirby monsters live down there. Maybe Idaho has a rich, natural supply of power-gems that power Tater-Titan, mole people war machines, and Jack Kirby monsters?The power gems also make really big potatoes.
>>47210042I think Gemstone should be the official hero because he/she/ze is flashy and exciting and the kind of hero who would win an election. Dr. Tuberous is the hero that Idaho deserves, but is so boring he can never gain enough attention to join the statesmen.
Why not have the entire Potato League join the Statesmen? We could say it's because Idaho has weird bylaws, like the primary system.
>>47209047Someone was statting up a guy who respawned every time he died a few thread ago; that system, whatever it was, looked interesting.
>>47210116nah, picking favorites is part of the fun. we already have a large roster of heroes that didn't quite make it, which leaves those characters open for other teams/projects
>>47210087Stop be if it sounds crazy, but what if Gemstone is his robot son (Dr Tuberous was never good at talking to girls) and Tater Titan is ALSO his robot son, just a big lumbering prototype of Gemstone.They sort of have a Proto Man and Mega Man relationship. Tater Titan sometimes feels unloved because he's a big prototype who Gemstone improves on across the board.
>>47210148I kind of like it. So Tuberous is just a background character mostly, a balancing influence on his "sons"
>>47210087The world is plagued by the vengeful constructs of scientists who have perceived themselves as being scorned by the Earth. But the one who does the most good for the world, the one who is most under-appreciated, most ignored, and the one with the most potential to bring an end to heroes and civilization with his potato-powered devices that rival the gods, is the one scientist who puts up with it all and still works to make ever more filling potatoes.Dr. Tuberous is the one true hero of this world.
>>47209321Here's an idea, her features change and shift over the year. When its winter she looks more like a Thule with webbing in stuff (because Thule "crosses over" with the Earth north of Germany where its really cold) and when its summer she looks more like a human.Basically cold brings out her Thule characteristics is what I'm saying.>>47210196>>47210203DR TUBEROUS: THE LIGHTS IN THE SKY ARE POTATOES TO.One time he went to Japan and left designs for a mech the Diet locked in a safe that read "DO NOT OPEN UNTIL DOOMSDAY"So Dr Tuberous and Sons are on the Statesmen? Or maybe just Tuberous and Gemstone, with Tater Titan salty that he didn't get on the ticket.NOW I think Missouri is the only one left......For some reason I want a female Huck Finn. Who is also a catgirl. She doesn't have a lot of powers but she bops around the Mississippi helping people like a super hobo.I do not know if this is a bad idea or a good idea.
>>47210203>>47210196>>47210148IDAHOGemstoneA powerhouse of android which operates by means of an unknown power source, Gemstone is able to convert trapped energy in various valuable stones into a variety of powerful effects.Solar powered flight, and cosmic beams from the Star Garnet. Shooting invisible fire from the Pinafore opal. Harlequin Opal is a laughter aura. Bruneau Jasper lets it melt into the ground and travel that way.Gemstone narrowly won the election to the Statesman over his “brother” a shapeshifting android named Titan. Both of these powerhouse crime fighters were created by the enigmatic Dr. Tuberous, a scientist who has devoted his life to studying the functions of the humble potato. Tuberous has functionally quadrupled the crop yields throughout Idaho and empowered some of the regions most famous heroes. However, his research and demeanor are so boring that no one can ever remember his name or his achievements. The world is plagued by the vengeful constructs of scientists who have perceived themselves as being scorned by the Earth. But the one who does the most good for the world, the one who is most under-appreciated, most ignored, and the one with the most potential to bring an end to heroes and civilization with his potato-powered devices that rival the gods, is the one scientist who puts up with it all and still works to make ever more filling potatoes.
>>47209953>"releasing the potential" of a gemstoneWould that work for any non-ordinary gemstone?Like magic crystals or something sci-fi like Kryptonite?
>>47210266is this our consensus?
>>47210263For the Missouri girl: They've got bobcats, so maybe a werebobcat?And her catchphrase could be "Show me."
>>47210263Frankly I kind of imagined the Huck Finn/Tom Sawyer hero to be a bit of a master of the ruse cruse. Trickster hero of the mississippi river. An American Loki?We can also do an inversion of a Yankee in King Arthur's Court as the Missouri hero, if we wanna keep the Mark Twain references up.But a rule 63 huck finn is pretty up my alley. But why a Catgirl? That seems kind of arbitrary to me. >>47210303I could picture it going one of two waysI'd say it'd be disastrous. An energy crystal already has its potential released. Taking it a step further would up the energy but only for it to explode in a city shattering kaboom. Or making the toxic effect of kryptonite more toxic.Alternatively the Crystal Potential Release works in the reverse on already active powerstones. Energy crystals and kryptonite are depowered by having their potential released/Sealed.
>>47210383would get behind a trickster river spirit if you want to do a write up.
>>47210381Degenerate furry crap.I love it.
>>47210381>>47210383Bobcat Girl Tom Sawyer sounds good to me. Just give her a longer tail than normal.>Why a catgirl?Because it fits for a trickster. I can just see her lazily hanging off a weeping willow of some of those trees that grow along the Mississippi. She also breaks the stereotype that cats can't stand water, being an expert swimmer.Tom Sawyer/Huck Finn would be a cat if they were animals. Cunning, independent, creators of their own morality. Catgirls are also a fetish of mine to be totally honest >Inversion of a Connecticut YankeeSo a fantasy/romance character coming to the real world?Maybe she's from one of Fairy Finder's Fairy Worlds, dropping on because she likes the river and the people that live on the river and like getting one over on the stuffy Atlanteans that don't like spirits to interact with humans?She's been a protector of the river for decades, just lazing about and getting into trouble and solving problems with her own sense of fair play and justice.
>>47210469>>47210381"Show me' is a good catchphrase for trickster that likes to hoist victims by their own petard."Oh? You think you can rob that river boat casino do you? Show me.""Oh? You think you can take little ol' me in a fight? Show me.""You think you're going to get away with that? Show me."Tricksters are tricky like that. They wait for their opponent to set themselves up.
>>47210496so just merge the ideas?Bob Cat a shapeshifting trickster spirit bound to the various rivers and streams of Missouri. Somewhat Tomboyesque, it is somewhat difficult to tell whether this master of ruse anddecpeiton is actually on the side of justice. The people love her though, and associate her with the famed antics of fictional Missouri natives Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn.
>>47210542Well its better than an obtuse Rush joke better off saved for Canada anywho.. Pic unrelated. Just sketched out a bit of the Haunter of Tennessee.going from frightened little girl to strong woman with a murder ghost at her beck and call, is some cool development... even if i got a little referential with the aged up pic.
>>47210542Sounds good to me. She's from the spiritual side of the Missouri, loving that the Atlanteans can't force her back because of some trick she pulled on them. She knows Fairy Finder and finds her to be annoying in that she keeps wanting her to join up with her band of adventurers and travel the fairy lanes. She likes the physical side of Missouri way too much to ever go back to the spiritual.
>>47210588Cool! Could you do one where she meets Wilbur and Otherthing?I imagine the two humans get along while their pets don't.Alternatively, they have a pokemon battle.
Do we want to do American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico, and U.S. Virgin Islands?
>>47200092>MontanaI like it. He'd better have a six-shooter on his hip, though. After all this IS the state that taught both Doc Holliday and Teddy Roosevelt to be cowboys.
Bookmaker stop spamming the thread you degenerate tripfaggot
>>47210639Was it Wilbur or Herbert? I sort of remember vaguely flipflopping on the name as far as a reference to a Lovecraft character goes. Perhaps Herbert (West) and Wilbur (Whateley)Oh and Otherthing is the guy's brother despite being a monster. Brotherly bonds is the only thing keeping him on the straight and narrow. A sort of inverted Hellboy? Have a quick sketch of the duo.
>>47209953>>47210049I get the feeling Doc Tuberous has a premier line of super-vodka, just to cover his expenses.
updated pastebin, now with all 50 Statesmen! probably.http://pastebin.com/qCgQBDgr
>>47210744I think it should be Wilbur because that was how it was in the Dunwhich horror. Wilbur Whateley was the semi-monstrous sibling while his unnamed brother was the full on spawn monster.>>47210769And they said it couldn't be done...so any ideas for an evil counterpart of the Statesmen? Some sort of criminal empire with a figurehead "chief enforcer" in every state?
>>47210813there was an idea for an evil team themed after a 52 card deck a few threads ago. other people proposed making a Satellites team set in former soviet states. We could play with the idea about having an organization of secessionists or anarchists that the statesmen are opposed to.a handful of the statesman have villains in their background, so that might be a place to start as well.
>>47210813Statesmen as is a pretty big ambitious project. I'd argue against a proper antistatesmen, if only because we'd be doing the "Find something about a state and make a character around it" thing we've already done with the regular statesmen. But it could help to have ideas for "american villains" in general. Or a "Villain Society" existing in the world at large, across the globe. Not quite "Ivan Badguy" level of foreign menace supervillains, Just a world wide supervillain society. Someone suggested playing cards as a motif. And I just realized my doodle for Overlord Darkness sort of has a "Spade Shaped" head. which was more of a cheeky grant Morrison reference than anything else.
>>47211041What can OD do, exactly? 'Overlord Darkness' seems like a bit of a...childish name, to be honest. Unless he's like Aku, or something.
>>47211041>>47210873i would support a playing card theme, if it could be done creatively and not just "this guy is the king"
New villain:Even in Atlantis, there were those who practiced the magic arts and were not content with the power this gave them. One such sorcerer turned from the light and began to search the dark paths for real truth. As many after him, he found only lies and corruption. It opened him to the beings outside of our reality, outside of all realities, that wish only to to bring ruin. The sorcerer's mistake was not one of the ones that doomed Atlantis; he was stopped mid-ritual by some of the earliest and wisest heroic mages.But something DID slip through.A spirit, really. Just a small piece of a greater corrupter. It had no power to do anything but run and hide - by possessing the bodies of sea-life - from those that would banish it back to the outer realms. But no one body lasted very long. So under the oceans it waited for thousands of years, and slept. Humanity's rise, fueled by technology, woke it once more. What it tasted was sweet. Pollution. Toxic spills. Chemicals. Dead, decaying sea life. Humanity's causal disdain for the oceans fed it and it slowly grew more powerful until, finally, it was able to possess the body of an unlucky swimmer and come to shore, to bring its corrupting touch to the land.
>>47211083He's a sort of Shcrodinger's cat of Evil. Sort of general purpose evil society leader with the twist that he's multiple origin stories wrapped into one entity. One day he's the evil version of a Doc Chase from another universe, the next he's the secret advisor to the molepeople king, to the next where he's a starfish alien from the dark side of the moon. Lost son of Imhotep, lost son of a dictator from a long forgotten foreign country, or even Hitler's secret brother, and a computer designed by the aztecs. He starts up evil organizations and swiftly abandons them as they suit his needs. A sort of Darkseid-esque primordial evil. Is how I've interpreted him.I think he was originally based off of the great leader of Shocker from Kamen Rider, who had multiple different appearances in the same show (i think). Ranging from hooded red mask, to bundle of snakes instead of a head, to weird stoney faced cyclops.
>>47211151It has many names: The Befouler of Oceans, The Rotting Shore, The Wave of Brackish Death. But the only sobriquet that's ever truly stuck came during its first battle with superheroes, when Trinity exclaimed, "This thing stinks like Low Tide!"Low Tide manifests by possessing a waterlogged corpse, covered in dead barnacles and other sea parasites, with flotsam and jetsam clinging to knobby dead coral growths on its joints and head. Its skin is fishbelly white and it brings briny rot wherever it goes. It attacks, much like many ocean heroes, with hydrokinesis, but fouls the water as it does. The water blasts might be greasy, with a pH so low it leaves chemical burns. Or a splash might poison its victims with a rotting plague, or infest them with horrid, mutant sea lice. The real damage it does is to the shoreline and oceans where it appears. Dead fish and sea mammals trail its wake and water grows stagnant and foul, making beaches uninhabitable for weeks or even years.Naturally, Low Tide is of serious concern to Fisher-Girl, Waveracer, The Blue Crab, and anyone interested in preserving the oceans. Those with a Atlantean or magic background may find much fascinating about the poisonous spirit.(Please correct me if this goes against anything previously said about Atlantis and Atlanteans.)
>>47210873I thought the deck idea was interesting because it gave us enough to counter all the Statesmen and their DC leader and how a big boss left over, the Joker of the deck.Regardless of what theme the organization takes I'm tempted to have it contain a bunch of arch-foes. Think the Super Friends Legion of Doom.It'll be hard to find a reason to get so many super villains together.Anyway I want tho throw an idea for Wilbur and Otherthing's Arch out. Sense they're a good version of Dunwhich Horror how about having them fight a bad version of Randolph Carter.THE DREAM SULTANBased on Dr Destiny, Freddy Kruger, Nightmare, Randolph Carter, KuranisThe Dream Sultan is wanted by dream warriors the world over from BAKKU of Japan to NEMO of North America. He is a "dream warlord", exploiting dream creatures to increase his power seeing them as nothing more than chaotic, wicked monsters that must be tamed by him like Zeus tamed Typhon or Marduk tamed Tiamat.Dream Sultan believes that the first step to creating an ordered, harmonious society is to make sure the world of dreams is harmonious and ordered. Nightmares must be tamed like wild animals. Progress has been made in recent decades to exploring the mental Earth, the manifestation of Earth that sits on top of the physical and spiritual Earth. These "Dreamlands" are where dreams and nightmares take independent form from the dreamer. Spirits and humans alike dream, and here is where the dreams mingle.It is the outer edge of the planet's oversoul, where anything can happen if one provides the proper will and imagination to command the raw dreamstuff.Here is where The Dream Sultan lives in his shining castle of willpower grown on the backs of mammoth ambition-whales and anger-hawks. He travels from dream to dream and from mind to mind taking the bad thoughts and putting them to work to power his fortress.-cont
>>47211151>>47211174Atlanteans are more like Celestials in Cape World and Thule people are more like the tradiationl "underwater wizards" but he can work as he is. He's just a big ball of NOPE that escaped from the Atlantean's territory on spiritual earth. He reflects their fears of exactly what can go wrong when spirit and matter mix.
>>47211229Hey,either that way or from Thule, if it works, I'm happy.
>>47211041Ace of Spades?I'm going to try an "card" some bad guys I write up and see if they can cohere into a deck.Maybe each "suit" of the deck corresponds to a different brand of evil? Spades are dark tyrants and conquerors for instance.>>47211182He has made himself an enemy of the dreamlands and super-dreamers, but he has become a particular arch-foe to Wilbur and his Otherthing brother. The Dream Sultan believes that Wilbur must be "saved" from the corrupting influence of his brother at any cost and the two masters of the occult have fought often.SUPER SECRET: The Dream Sultan is Old man Wizard Whatelely, the one responsible for bonding Wilbur to his brother and now deeply regrets his mistake. He has been driven by his mistake to conquer all monsters the world over stating with nightmares and working down to the real world.He is the 10 of Spades in THE DECK.
>>47211041I feel like there would never be a singular organized rime ring, though I feel like there could be one major one in the background discreetly working with, and through, extant major syndicates (metahuman or not).As much as it's a stupid movie, Spectre's boardroom scene really nails the tone of what I'd like to see in the setting as far as a central, global villainy group goes. Moriarty-tier stuff.And alongside this there would of course be some metahuman or supervillainous representation in organized crime that's just different means to the same end. Like, a geokinetic digging tunnels for the cartels to move guns, drugs, and people--that sort of stuff happens today anyways, and it'd be at more-or-less the real life digging's scale because of superheroics, putting everything in largely the same balance as the real world minus some potential or occasional shakeups.And then there could be free agents working for/with more banal criminals job-by-job, or smaller-scale gangs or crews of metahumans taking on one job at a time.
>>47210769We should probably include that and the original /shg/ team in the OP for next thread
>>47211288Spades: Conquering and Despotism (taking over the world types)Clubs: Crime and Business (brow beating mafiosos corporate types.)Hearts: Vendettas and Ideals (Watching the world burn)Diamonds: Riches and Comfort (The world is not enough)
>>47211448And the info on Hollywood, Vegas, Tokyo, etc...
>>47211285Maybe the deck is less of an organization and more of a classification system for super criminals?Spades: Conquerors. Doctor Dooms and Kangs.Hearts: Terrorists, dreamers, mad scientists. People that want to "save the world form itself". Anyone that wants to impose their vision on the Earth without the organization and obvious power structures of a Spade. Think Zoom, Punisher, Ozymandias, Mad Stan, Movie-Zemo.Diamonds: Hedonists. They do what they want because it makes them feel good. Ranges from punks that just want to rob a bank like many, many Spider-Man villains to thrill killers like the Joker.Clubs:Destroyers. Brutes. "Wanton Destruction" is the theme. They can either be innocents that can't control their powers and are a danger to themselves and others like The Phoenix, unthinking brutes like Solomon Grundy and Doomsday, or world destroyers like Brainiac.Joker: The highest class. Apocalyptic, powerful creatures. Shuma-Gorath. Galactus. Celestials. You summon AGATHION and the DREAM CATCHER among others to fight these threats.
>>47211448I should get back to work on inking and coloring that then. They really are my favorites out of everything that's been made. And the most symbolic for what the thread mission statement. They concisely express various types of heroes (Pulp, Magic, Vigilante, Alien, Mutant, Sidekick, Legacies etc.)
>>47211490>>47211465Either that, or broad classifications based on power? Magic, tech, biology...
I just considered...if I want to run M&M, it might be good practice to stat up some of these characters in order to familiarize myself with the system.
>>47211465>>47211288If we are doing a villain team, I want this guy to be on it.Martin DundoMartin Dundo was the heir to a rich industrial building jobs and empire which dominated the Great Lakes Region and he’d influence throughout the eastern seaboard. Rather than continue his family legacy of careful, ethical business practices, Dundo cut jobs and violated safety regulations in order to finance the creation of a vast narcotics network. It is speculated that Dundo Laboratories was responsible for the creation of the infamous designer drug Sprint, as well as several other incredibly dangerous substances. Eventually Abraham Axel, a reporter working for the Detroit Free Press, caught wind of Dundo’s under-the-table operations and published a scathing expose on the industrialist’s criminal empire. I response, Dundo’s team of lawyers brought libel charges against Axel, forcing him to resign in disgrace. This incident seemed to cement Dundo’s hold over the region, but a year later a mysterious operative named the Brown Recluse began disrupting his operations and stealing incriminating evidence. Dundo poured every resource into catching the vigilante, but it was not long before the Recluse had gathered enough evidence to conclusively demonstrate Dundo’s corruption. The libel charges against Axel were dropped, and Dundo was sentenced to 10 years in prison.While in prison Dundo was approached by a mysterious representative of the Playing Cards Group (working name), who offered him freedom in exchange for the services of his incredible financial and organizational skills. A few days later Dundo disappeared from his cell, and the efficiency of criminal operations across the United States quadrupled overnight.
Sheer curiosity, anyone got a link to the M&M 3e collection? Or at least Emerald City?
>>47211448Do we have any other info about those guys other than their basic premise? Where do they usually operate? Do they give a shit about any of the Statesmen? Are Baron and Doc Chase gay for eachother? Are Blue Cobalt and Psinobi gay for eachother? Is Trinity gay because she's surrounded by gays?
>>47211584>Playing Cards Group (working name)Spitballing: The House of Cards?
>>47211809I like it! It even somewhat invokes the governmental angle with the statesmen, "The house"
>>47211490>>47211465I feel like I could go either way with regards to the Clubs definition. Businessmen and Criminal empires could be represented under spades. As both corperate corruption and organized crime could fall under a "conquerer" definition, But I feel destroyers could fall under the Diamonds or Hearts element. Since they can be "forces of nature".Not sure i could go either way.>>47211781I feel they might be this setting's Avengers/Justice league. The team symbolic of the setting as a whole. A Magic Hero, A Science Hero, An Strengh Hero, A Street Hero, and Mutant Hero. Characters with backstories from around the world, a globetrotting adventurer, an alien trying to fit in, sorcerer in high society, a kid sidekick, and just your regular college girl. Plus there's something faintly international or global about them too.
>>47211864Yeah, they are the big leagues. The statesmen are mostly a political group, they aren't the primary super organization of the setting by any means (although they may be the largest)
>>47211584Sounds like a interesting guy, I like that he's involved with Turnpike's drug of choice. Neat bit of flavor there.Speaking of Brown Recluse I have this idea for a character he and the other two "Super Drivers" can arch. A reckless daredevil based on stories of Autobahn "Ghost Riders' that deliberately drive on the wrong side of the road, Vanishing point, and that one segment from Robot Carnival.THE IMMORTALHe feels the need. Boy does he ever.Back in the 1920's one of the first of America's super villains was THE IMMORTAL, a Clyde Barrow John Dilliger bank robber named THE IMMORTAL for being apparently un-catchable and un-killable. He walked away from car crashes and police ambushes that should have killed him. He lived life to the lees, even adventuring as an amoral rival THE AMERICAN EXPLORATION SOCIETY, partying on spirit-Mars with nearly naked red girls before coming home to party at the young Las Vegas.But The Immortal, while very hard to kill, was not Immortal, and his reputation invited rivals that wanted to stake their rep on killing one. Eventually one succeeded. Now his ghosts haunts the highways of North America in a car from hell that is actually a living demon. He is driven to drive, and drive, and drive. Even if there are cities and buildings in the way. Most times he is an intangible ghost, but spiritualist baddies that know what they are doing can give him and his car a corporeal form that sets a living missile on a tour across America.-cont
>>47211781I imagine one's gay, one's bi, and ones straight.>>47211822>A way to get them all to work togetherMaybe it's pure and simple revenge? The guy organizing the Deck (we can call him the Joker in this sense, taking from the Fortean "cosmic joker", a cosmic being that causes weird phenomena to happen) gathers a bunch of people that have fought the Statesmen members before just because the Statesmen beat him the past and he wants revenge?Some are bribed, some sign on just to take another shot at their rivals, and some are forced into joining.APART YOU WERE DEFEATED. BUT TOGETHER, THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS>>47211892He doesn't care about people. He doesn't care about cities. He just wants to drive and drive forever. As long as he's driving he feels like he's even heaven, even strapped inside the belly of a demon-car, cackling and raving like the Night Rider from Mad Max.Ghost O' Jarone has orders from his boss to drag the twitchy bastard back to hell, but to catch this guy and keep him caught he's going to need help from fellow auto Statesmen The Hossier and Brown Recluse.POTENTIAL HOUSE CARD: 1 of Hearts
>>47211864>>47211882What would be a good team name for them? Amazing Alliance?Global Justice?The Avenging Adventurers?
Also, we rolled up a four armed Indian assassin that used alchemy to transform her targets into elements with but a touch using the Marvel RPG randomizer.Anyone want to dare to roll up another using it?>>47211946I'm sort of partial to Avenging Adventurers. It sounds fun.
>>47211954I like this.
>>47211928I love the concept, connects really well the jarones spooky crime theme.While we should go ahead and assign suites to our criminals, Let's hold off on assigning rank until we know what the power levels of all the members are.
>>47212008That s a good idea, suites but no ranks yet.
So people are putting together a Hydra-esque national criminal organization to rival the Statesmen? I dunno.I feel it's more organic if each hero has their own respective rogue's gallery - anywhere from 1-3 reliable enemies - and allow any possible connections to draw from there. Having a massively organizaed national criminal cabal so quickly just doesn't feel right to me, especially if they're as disparate as the Statesmen themselves are. Plus, considering an organization of that size, it must be rather unwieldy.Just start with individual villains that any given Statesman could call an enemy, and go from there.
>>47212098Awe, don't kill our fun. This is an easier way to generate villains that aren't specific to respective heroes. It makes for a more involved, organic world. Plus if we are going to have crime, it might as well be organized crime.
>>47211979It references /shg/ in a subtle way. And its an Avengers-esque mononym. Plus they are "superheroes in general" sense of the word. Acompassing all types, ages, and nationalities. My one issue is that it feels a little militaristic. like General as in the army, rather than General as in "overall elements of something". Perhaps we can incorporate the initials of /shg/. Otherwise have some progress on the team's "all together now" pose. any comments so far? >>47212098Not to directly rival the statesmen, no. Just to sort of antagonize people all over the world. They could be enemies to the Generals or the Knights of the Round table or even Buckethead.
>>47212117But then you reach a point where 70% of all major crime is a Card crime, and that gets boring quickly when you know it's the same organization over and over and that, even if you keep beating them back, you generally don't make any real headway. Organizations like that are typically designed to be invincible, barring an en-masse catastrophic attack.
>>47212098>>47212117I think a this point we should just make bad guys, organized or not. And give them a suite for flavor.Maybe the two classification systems based on suites are in universe two takes on criminal classifications? You get stuff like that in real life with serial killer classification and what not.
>>47212140This is the best idea. Just make villains...solo or for specific heroes...and then if we want to assign suits we can.
So, i've wanted to ask this for a while: Do you guys know about any "green" hero? Besides Captain Planet, whos a kiddie show, do you guys know about any other "planet" dude?Themes of Eco-terror, corruption, that kind of thing?
>>47212132Super Heroic Group is the only letters I can get out of shg.
>>47212140That's fine. You could make it some weird US classification system ("It's Pentagon stuff," the Representative sighs, rubbing his nose. "Who knows how the hell they come up with schema like this? You might as well classify tornadoes by how far they throw a Furby.").
>>47212156You mean a hero who is explicitly eco-friendly as their entire gimmick?
>>47212156Swamp Thing, at times?
Superhero thread and only one picture has a latex catsuit. For shame.
>>47212137personally I like the idea of an organization. this is how crime works in real life. Yes there are unaffiliated crooks and killers, but large scale crime is always the function of a well oiled organization.I'm down for whatever people want though.
>>47212189We're making up our own heroes.If it really bothers you make your own.Hell why not make a hero whose whole deal is latex catsuits.
>>47212189they're too busy making NPCs to dump pics or talk about games
>>47212156Swamp Thing is the big one. Sort of horror vibe and gaia's wrath given form. Avatar of the Green, collective lifeforce of plantlife on earth.There's also Animal Man. Famous for the Morrison run that initially played off animal activism, before it famously went super meta. I think recently he was the Avatar of the Red, collective lifeforce of all animals. I think the two even had a Team Up in the Nu52.
>>47212189Hey, >>47201319 is in a catsuit. It's just half on the floor is all.
>>47212210Their crossover was called Rotworld where the Black,embodiment of all death, out balances the Red and the Green.
>>47212207As always, anon, you need to be the change you want to see. Don't want to contribute to Cape World? Want to talk about specific games or post pictures? Then do it.Don't just bitch about it.
>>47212132I'm digging how it's coming together. It feels like a comic book cover
>>47212162And Representative Cardigan Deckard, secretly HIGH CARD, gives him the stink eye.>>47212156Ecoterrorism is Ras Al Ghul's whole back. Kill off mankind so Earth can grow back. It's also partly what motivates Char in Char's Counter Attack. Master Asia was another Gundam eco terrorist.
>>47212207You could always ask for a pic dump or intiate it yourself.
>>47204972WhatChargen is the best part about faserip.if you want to make it less random have players roll pools of rankings for stats/powers, and just manually pick everything else.
>>47212261This picture has me intrigued
>>47212293what man, some anon asked for spandex
>>47212293Dr. Dungeon's one of my favorites from M&M 1e's Meta-4 universe. He was an archaeologist who found that suit (well, he added the swank cape and gloves) in an Indian burial mound in southern Ohio. He found that with a thought, he could fire blasts from his hands and make people disappear into the hole in the chest. So he ran around, calling himself Dr. Dungeon, like any good silver age villain.Except the suit's actually what some intergalatic cops wear, and when he makes people disappear, they go to an incarceration planet full of the worst criminals in the galaxy.
>>47212278The Clique is the Meta-4 universe's obligatory teen villain team, suitable for young heroes to go up against.The Other Woman - Duplicator who is effectively immortal because she can transfer her consciousness into her duplicates, which she keeps embedded into alternate lives all around the world. She's the real leader.The Crush - Uses Orgone Energy (look it up!) to make heterosexual males do her bidding. Catty, shallow, and thinks she's the leader.Jawbreaker - Rock hard impenetrable skin and super strength. Can't feel anything through touch and is understandably cross a lot of the time having grown up an ostracized mutant from the time she hatched at age 3 from the egg that her mother died giving birth to.Pixie - Martial artist, assassin, can shrink down to the size of a doll. Pretty much a sociopath and only is part of the group because, hey, she gets to hurt people.Wallflower - Shy tech whiz with a belt that lets her go intangible. She's got a good relationship with...Boytoy - A prototype military AI that can transform into pretty much any sort of vehicle the girls need. The Crush used her powers to steal him, and he's got a weird fixation on Wallflower.
>>47212210>>47212132Man I'm slipping up with my trip. I mean to have it on only when I post art (if only for shameless self promotion reasons). But here I am forgetting it for art.And turning it on for just random conversation. Sorry anons. >>47212242Thanks anon. >>47212205I think there was an old one mentioned a couple threads ago. Miss Majesty. Though that's more like a leotard than a catsuit. There was some mention of her being a nemesis for Blue Cobalt? For what reason I can't recall. >>47212224I remember reading that on a /co/ storytime.wasn't the embodiment of the Black Nekron?
I think I'll expand DREAM SULTAN to fight against HAUNTER, because I'm interested in all the "sub teams" having a bad guy.His deal with the Haunter is that he thinks he's helping her by killing Mad Mary. She's done nothing but hurt her, why does she feel the need to care for an irredeemable Id monster? Thought-forms and the dreamlands both operate in Mental Earth, so Mad Mary is even more powerful in dreams than she is in reality, not having to "work through" matter to do what she wants.I imagine Haunter travels the dream world as she sleeps helping people deal with their nightmares in a constructive way rather than removing them outright. Sometimes Wilbur and Otherthing pop in to help her.SUB TEAM BADDIESTHE IMMORTAL: The Road Avengers (mostly Ghost O' Jarone)THE DREAM SULTAN: The Nightmare Siblings (Mostly Wilbur)LOW TIDE: The Coast Guardians.Having Low Tide fight MADAM DELPHINE could look cool. Water zombies against water ghosts pirates.
>>47212239>>47212254I posted some Catwoman didn't I?
>>47212438What's Miss Majesty's theme?
>>47212438Miss Majesty makes me think of that episode of Teen Titans GO! where Raven finds out that she's got great legs and creates an alternate hero identity known as Lady Legasus.As Max Bialystock says, "If you got it, flaunt it!"
>>47212438Nekron has something to do with the Black Lanterns. I think the Black Avatar was William Arcane or something like that
>>47212457M&M Powerhouse hero who's thing was absurd Damage resistance.To qoute the thread she showed up in:>She was a powerhouse with super strength and intense damage resistance, able to shrug off bullets and whatnot. This feeling of invincibility gave her an arrogance and need to act out, as she wanted to be challenged for once in her life. She also developed a masochistic streak, as she wanted a hero to finally punish her and become her better.
>>47212438>There was some mention of her being a nemesis for Blue Cobalt? For what reason I can't recall.I think the reason because of the masochism and Blue Cobalt's a heavy hitter. probably some lewd reasons as well
Like to join you! (M&M btw.)Name is PARADOXAge/Sex: 32, MLives in: St.Leninsburg (fictional city in russia)Power: Manipulates Time and Space (up to 10sec to the past time travel ability, teleport in a 5m [16.5ft] radius)Origin: Comes from another dimension of time and space. He escaped from a unpreventable galactical collapse and saves his ass in this dimension. In the other Dimension he was kind of a god but this dimensions time-space-continuum is different from his own and so his power is strongly limited here.>Pic is the best one i could create. im a realy bad artist when it comes to painting
>>47212536Yep, that's her. Here's the original picture used, for reference.
>>47212575Hey, you worked something out! Congrats.
>>47212603yea i know, the name is bad... but it was my DMs decision and as long as we don't come up with something own we have to take what we got(Btw. in the dimension we play the soviets won WW2)
>>47212580I quite like the "Coat" with the zipper as it lies on top of the tight outfit. Looks like I forgot the long gloves. And the belts. >>47212559>probably some lewd reasons as wellOf course there are. >>47212575Its not too bad. Heromachine is pretty useful for character art generating. There was another guy that used Champions Online to generate characters. Have a quick doodle for your time.
>>47212663>I quite like the "Coat" with the zipper as it lies on top of the tight outfit.I thought it was just one big onesie, but looking at it, you could say there's a very slim jacket for the top half.
>>47212663>Its not too bad. Heromachine is pretty useful for character art generating.And when everyone uses Heromachine, at least it's consistent.It strikes me that Paradox is exactly the kind of hero that The Gauntlet wants to attach itself to. "NOW I CAN CONTROL TIME!"
>>47212637The Soviets won WWII IRL also
>>47212688i know what you mean but i mean realy WON!they defeated the US and the Axis and rule 80% of the world in our dimension.
>>47212718>>47212637Oh and btw. thats why he weres blue. it's his kind of rebellion against the "Red-Reich"of Russia
>>47212465Yeah, Miss Majesty has legs for days, with an ass so fine you can see it from the front.
>>47212737Legs so good, she's always telling guys, "Hey, my tits are up HERE."
>>47212536Sounds like someone Virginia Daring would fight.THE TRUTHDECK SUITE: HeartsA self styled "action reporter" who pursues the truth at all cost armed with his video recorder headset that updates constantly to his website. He developed teleporation, invisibility, and intangibility powers at a young age and can use these powers offensively, blinding others he turns invisible that do not have his special goggles and teleporting people away from him. While these powers make him formidable he is an overly-excited spaz prone to being distracted and surprised. He is regarded as low threat due to this and his nonviolence.He could be a hell of an assassin or thief, but he doesn't' want to kill or steal. Rather he wants THE TRUTH.THE TRUTH being what fits his warped narrative of history, for you see, THE TRUTH is a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. His powers disrupted his brain chemistry when they developed during his teenage years and he doesn't take his pills because CLEARLY the powers that be are putting tracking nanites in them.He believes that super heroes are actually people possessed by "extra dimensional identity monsters" (think Thetans) that use super human people as hosts. Invading physic personas in other words. No one ACTUALLY good would have a secret identity. What does a good person have to hide?The super heroes, you see, really control the world. But if you expose their secret identity to the world they go away, like learning the true name of a fairy.Whats that about super heroes that already give their secret identity? CLEARLY a bogus front. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!THE TRUTH investigates the world's most mysterious supers, usually becoming a horrible pest or even placing himself and others in danger by getting in the way of a fight (a CLEARLY staged super-performance). He's made it his life's mission to uncover the "truth" behind Extrahuman, Ms Cryptic, Lugaru, and Haunter-known collectively as CRYPTIC'S CREW. -cont
>>47212795While he's not obsessed with them quite like is with CRYPTIC'S CREW FAIRY FINDER and VIRGINIA DARING are usually high on his "to bust" list.Sometimes he has to pay the bills, usually by getting work through the Hollywood based "super paparazi" organization MASK BREAKERS.One assignment found him make the juicy score of pictures of a nude Barnstormer, who at the time was going by the handle Country Gal. Her clothes were blasted off during a staged "fight" and the invisible photographer got her at all angles.Stuntman used his CIA contacts to track him down and beat him black and blue for trying to sell the pics to the highest bidder online.
I've been brainstorming a villain for the Southern Statesmen, as I figured we atleast need one cowboy on each side of good and evil.'The Huntsman' is the leader of a small gang of outlaws known as 'The 8 Legs', Southern criminals with a spider/old West motif that work for the highest bidder.Huntsman himself had his mutant genes triggered when a particularly poisonous spider took a bite out of him, altering his genome in such a way that caused his arms to split into three pairs, a small pair of mandibles to now protrude from his mouth, and his eyes to have multiple pupils. The combination of enhanced eyesight and extreme dexterity with his many hands makes him lethal with any firearm. Appearance wise he dresses in your typical 'bad' cowboy style with a black duster, hat and spurs etc., but also sports a pair of tinted goggles, a thick scarf around his mouth and wraps his extra sets of arms around his waist when trying to look a little less conspicuous. Has a habit of snatching flies out of the air and snacking on them.
>>47212769But the question is she proud of her legs or ashamed that they distract people from her other features?
>>47212894I think it would be cute if it were the later. So her thing is that she goes around finding strong super heroines to brawl with, hoping to find one strong enough to fulfill her subconscious desire for domination?Could there be a storyline where she puts on some sort of super heroine fighting tournament with herself as the final boss? Maybe MR RED and MR BLACK of the Vegas based ROULETTE help her set it up, kidnapping several VIPS and having WAXWORKS replace them?Could a super heroine fighting tournament work? Who all would make the roster?
>>47212929Ms.Cryptic,Barnstorm,Psinobi,and Blue Cobalt are a few that come to mind
>>47212687>It strikes me that Paradox is exactly the kind of hero that The Gauntlet wants to attach itself to. "NOW I CAN CONTROL TIME!"Great set up for a crisis event.
>>47212929Not just super heroines.
>>47212953>Infinite Crisis for Cape WorldI wonder how the Earth 3(DC reality where the good guys are bad guys)versions of characters would be like.
>>47212929>So her thing is that she goes around finding strong super heroines to brawl with, hoping to find one strong enough to fulfill her subconscious desire for domination?More like she robs a bank, walks casually through the police blockade with bullets bouncing off her, and wondering when someone will show up to stop her before she leaves. She's a public menace because she wants attention and a challenge.
>>47212953Im realy surprised that anybody is realy interested in his Gauntlet. Paradox gauntlet has, as far as i played the character, no realy background. Its a Weapon from a Future of his old Dimension but its nothing realy special. Until know it alows him to shot heat-rays and adds more stength to his right arm (4 times stronger then a human). It is possible that the Gauntlet has an AI that never shows up until now. But as far as he knows he already know everything about this Prototype-Weapon from a far future.
>>47212985Gauntlet becomes The Love Glove. >>47212967Super villianesses too?
>>47212985>Earth 3>Extra Human is Ordinary Alien goes around suppressing Earthlings>is still considered a joke>his evil schemes are akin to Pinky and the Brain and Dr.Draken
>>47213043I think we're talking about Cape World Gauntlet.>>47212986So...no deep dark desire to be dominated?
>>47212951Audience comes for the hot super heroine on super heroine action>next in the ring, MS CRYPTIC!!!!!
>>47213056I think he means men. Like Baron Bizare or Palmetto Bug
>>47213083>implying freaks wouldn't show up for Ms.Cryptic
>>47213072>So...no deep dark desire to be dominated?Oh, the desire is there. But it only really comes out when Miss Majesty gets a GOOD fight. Maybe this will be the one to finally put her in her place...
>>47212986This so much. I kind of would prefer a "duelist" angle to her rather than a lewd angle Not that I so much mind the lewd angle. But still.>Who will make this villainy thing all worth while? >I'm so bored. >This is just too easy.All before getting into a fistfight with Captain Justice or Blue Cobalt.and speaking of captain justice. Did this sketch a while ago. but since he's a sort of armor hero now i might as well post him. I was definitely picturing a sort of "big guy" style robot suit.I was thinking of calling him "Big Iron" as a reference to big o and that one song from Fallout.
>>47213084>Adding MenNo, that tournament is for when Captain Dominance, the guy that looks like Sean Connery from Zardoz, uses the Roulette to set up a super hero tournament.>>47213083>>47213095Poor Ms. Cryptic. Extrahuman will still cheer for her.>>47213108>Duelist rather than a lewd angleCape comics roll with the tone. In a more comedic story like "super heroine fighting tournament in Las Vegas" he lewd aspect can be played up. In a more serious story her duelist aspect is played up.I wonder how she'd interact with that Connecticut Statesman that used swords? I want a story where they're in a running fight over stealing a legendary sword and eventually grow to respect each other because they had so much fun chasing after the sword and taking it back form one another.
Hey guys im new to the system of M&M and will try to launch a playgroup soon. Im not so sure about the Power Level and i would be glad if you could give me some good examples for the Power Levels from 1 up to 20 so i have a good idea of what kind of heros my playgroup could create in which kind of Power Level.System is 2nd Edition by the way
>>47211490>Spades: Conquerors. Doctor Dooms and Kangs.depending on whether Aces are high or low, Overlord Darkness is probably either Spade Ace, or Spade King rank(definitely thinking that much The Statesmen are a relatively loose team, DECK would be a relatively loose bad guy organization, mostly existing to catalog villains, and acting as a sort of cross between a Trade/Labor Union, and Social Network for villains, to try and minimize the infighting and other issues that tend to hamper villain interactions otherwise)
>>47213231The default is PL10, which is roughly Avengers-tier. PL12 is Justice League-tier, and PL8 is the top end of street-level.
>>47213270I'm still of the opinion that the Card Deck is simply a loose classification system used by the government for ease in categorizing villains. The suit determines their domain, and their rank determines how big a player they are in the grand scheme of things.
>>47213270Aces are definitely high.
>>47213270>to try and minimize the infighting and other issues that tend to hamper villain interactions otherwiseBut villain in-fighting is hilarious. Why is it the heroes who always have to fight each other?
>>47213298that doesn't make much sense unfortunately, unless there are only 52 villains in the country.I'm still supporting the idea of having the House of Cards be a villainous secret society, but people apparently have issues with that.
>>47213298It's just like the game Mercenaries. Every bigwig in North Korea is assigned a card in the "playing deck.">>47213312I'm not saying there are only 52 villains in the country. I'm saying any given villain of a particular "weight" in the same field would share the same card rank. You can have multiple instances of a "10 of Hearts," for example.
>>47213312Both sound like good ideas to me
>>47213312As a classification system there's any number of "2 of diamonds" or "1 of spades". It's just a general power ranking combined with a modus operandi.It's possible the "Desk system" classification system was inspired by an actual organization that uses 52 super members.
>>47213312It would probably be easier if there were just a society that happens to use the playing card motif, as it would lend more credence to any government-established threat system. Using the playing card deck is more artsy-fartsy than just saying a villain is threat rank 10 (PL10 in M&M).
>>47213354i tend to agree, but some anons felt that if we started building villainous teams it would obstruct organic storytelling.
>>47213367Well we still need villains and villain teams can be fun.
>>47213354Hell, the Threat Report book for M&M 3e outright uses PL ranks for the villains.>>47213367I guess the issue is that using the playing card deck makes the scope of the would-be organization feel so, I dunno, narrow. Plus, building a faceless national conspiracy right off the bat may overshadow any created villain attempting to stand on their own. The Legion of Doom didn't just come out of nowhere.
So Next thread should focus on BAD GUYS, yes or no?What we really need is a five member band to fight the Generals. Anyone want to randomize a team of five bad guys?We randomized an Indian assassin earlier, could she be in, or is she too lame to be on the "anti-Generals" team?
>>47213309>But villain in-fighting is hilarious. Why is it the heroes who always have to fight each other?well I didn't say they were completely successful, just enough that the bigger egos aren't always blowing up cities when they clashalso felt that we needed a Guild of Calamitous Intent type of group, and DECK sounds like a good fit for this sort of thing
>>47213469I'm pretty sure a couple people started quick-generating villains in a previous thread (>>47104581, to be specific).In fact, there were two of them. One was a teenage vampire, and the other was basically an evil Human Torch. I'll see if I can't recover the exact statblocks.
>>47213469Yeah next thread should be villains >>47213495Card number instead of Arching Level?Instead of Red Death being a 10 he would a King of Clubs?
>>47213495>Guild of Calamitous IntentThat sounds like a good idea of what DECK should be. They don't really have an agenda, they leave that stuff up to their individual members, they're just the glue that holds the super villain community together.
>>47213502Wasn't the vampire supposed to be a Trinity villain?
>>47213515Yep, that's how it works!
>>47213231Skim through the books, they have examples of generic NPCs like civilians and cops and the like.>using 2ewhy>>47213281In 3e actual DC canon books Justice League ranges from 12 (batsy) to 14(lanterns)-15(superman)
>>47213547>why using 2e-the book was free-i know a few playgroups in my town. they use 2e-its (as far as i know) easy to convert a 2e character to 3eaaand... ive no idea why to use 1e
New thread >>47213603
>>47213571>-the book was freeso is pirating 3e if it comes to that>-i know a few playgroups in my town. they use 2efuckin grognards>-its (as far as i know) easy to convert a 2e character to 3esomewhat possible, yes
>>47213502>Supernatural Creatures are fantastical beings out of folktales and scary stories. They’re generally regarded as urban legends in comic books, but when they exist, their powers place them on par with other superhumans. They draw their powers from a mystical or infernal source, although some Supernatural Creatures have a scientific origin or explanation for their powers.>Vampire: You are an undead creature with supernatural powers and who subsists on blood.STATS>STR 6, STA -, AGL 3, DEX 2, FGT 10, INT 1, AWE 3, PRE 2ADVANTAGES>Wilder: You are comfortable in the wild.>Animal Empathy, Great Endurance, Favored Environment (Choose One), TrackSKILLS>Teen: You are just a kid exploring his newfound powers.>Deception 8, Expertise: Popular Culture 6, Insight 4, Perception 4, Stealth 4, Technology 4OFFENSIVE POWERS>Devilish Speed: Enhanced Advantages 6 (Close Attack 4, Improved Initiative 2); Quickness 2 • 8 pointsVAMPIRE-SPECIFIC POWERS>Blood Drain: Regeneration 10, Source (Blood) • 5 pointsPRIMARY POWER>Undead Invulnerability: Immunity 30 (Fortitude effects); Impervious Protection 10, Limited—Not against blessed or magical weapons • 40 pointsUTILITY POWERS>Mist Form: Insubstantial 2, Linked to Flight 5 (60 MPH) • 20 points>Eyes of Darkness: Senses 2 (Darkvision) • 2 pointsDEFENSES>Dodge +6, Parry/Fortitude/Toughness +0, Will +6Initial synopsis from anon>So what we have here is a teen gone vampire. He is survivaly, quick and hard to catch.>So for the nemesis factor, he can be one of Trinity's schoolmates, who has taken fancy to her, but she's having none of it. Perhaps even the typical double life with her having a crush on the handsome guy in his secret identity, but she wants none of the crazed bitey monster she meets in her heroics.>While he is all "oh sweet, threesome for the price of one, gotta get it".