It's been a long time coming but we're finally creating a quest board. We're going to give it some unique features to help quest authors and before we open the board to posting we want to give anons an opportunity to give some feedback on what we've come up with. We also have a basic set of rules that we'd like the people who are going to be using the board to critique./qst/ - QuestsSafe for workBump limit 1000User IDsOnly OP can post imagesOP can use basic text formatting (bold, italics, a handful of text colors)Everyone gets diceThe point of limiting images to the OP is to make sure that people don't get distracted by reaction images, and to allow the OP more control over the setting and tone in the thread. The OP is the quest author, and if only they can post images then they have a greater ability to create a mood, an atmosphere for the story they are trying to tell. It also limits the potential for spamming and intentional derails by trolls. Same goes for limiting text formatting to quest authors. The point of italics, bold, and colored text is to give the quest author more options in how they present their story. Maybe they want to use italics for character dialog, maybe they want to use bold for labeling important items, or maybe they want to use colors to highlight key words. These features are being added for the benefit of the quest author, and not for funposting.
Here are the basic rules we've come up with:This board is for author-driven collaborative storytelling (i.e. "quests"). All threads posted here should be part of a new or ongoing quest.The author controls the story of the quest. They can take suggestions from other posters, or not, at their sole discretion. If things don't go your way don't complain!All threads on this board should be created by the associated quest author. Please refrain from making meta-threads.Erotic roleplay is not permitted. Frequent explicit descriptions of sexual encounters by a quest author may result in mod intervention.The result of rules 1 & 3 should be that every thread on /qst/ has a quest author as the OP, and therefore the author would have access to images and text formatting options that come with being the thread OP. If you create a thread on /qst/ without intending to run a quest then your thread is going to get deleted. Same goes for if you create a thread begging for a quest author to post more, or if you create a thread to talk about an ongoing quest, etc. All threads must be new or ongoing quests, period. Rule 2 is pretty self-explanatory: the quest author controls the story, period. Don't be an arse and try to flip the table just because the quest author didn't take your suggestion. Rule 4 is probably going to get a lot of criticism, but it's necessary. The main reason we took so long to make this board is that we didn't want to create a haven for erotic roleplay and erotic fan fiction. While we've given quest authors a lot of leeway on this on /tg/, we have had to intervene a few times in the past when quests turned into wank material. We're aiming for adventure, exploration, suspense, mystery, etc, and not erotica. If you want erotica try another venue. That's not to say that everything has to be G-rated; just that if as a quest author you're spending most of your time describing sex in graphic detail, then odds are a mod is going to warn you to "fade to black" instead.We'd like to know what fa/tg/uys think about all this. We're open to suggestions/feedback/criticism/whatever.
>Erotic roleplay is not permittedFuck, but I want smut-fags to leave. too.
Didn't moot suggest a role-playing board years and years and years ago? He said he'd have an idea "by the weekend" or something, it never happened.What about a general play-by-post role-playing, quest, and forum games board? Quests seem pretty specific and might not be big enough to fill ten pages on their own.
>>46945926So, what's the reason to make it safe for work?
My IP address pretty regularly resets. It really helps when I samefag on other boards but it seems like it would leave a quest thread headless if I tried to start one.
>>46945926So no fanarts, drawfags, mixtapes, and users collaborating on plans and stuff for quests ever?Got it.
>EROTIC ROLEPLAYwe have to keep those degenerates from writing about holding their waifu's hands, also Id's are going to be a pain for questers who want their players to remain anonymous.
>>46945926>Erotic roleplay is not permitted. Frequent explicit descriptions of sexual encounters by a quest author may result in mod intervention.CAN YOU SPECIFY THAT /d/ CAN HAVE THESE QUESTS THEN?
>>46946028I'm assuming /tg/ would be a launchpad? Seems like it would help quests but not really clean up /tg/.
Aww, now you're giving the crybabies what they want. Oh well. This is just going to contribute to a smug sense of acomplishment and entitlement and I hope you stop listening to them in the future.Well, to be constructive, User IDs should be thread specific, if that's not already your idea. Prolific players might start getting reputations and it will keep drama down if you can't tell who is who (Aside from the trip posting QM) from one thread to the next.
>>46946025>>46945926Never mind, saw that you want to make it a kiddy corner where 12 years old can write their first naruto fanfic.
>>46945911>>46945926As an anti-quest fag, thank god.That said, "Only OP can post images" is not good. Questfags sometimes need diagrams to explain complex concepts in certain quests (usually the better ones that aren't shitty "A: Seduce waifu or B: Rape Waifu" choice quests.)The explanation that you don't want it to be a haven for ERP fails, as textlewd is very possible, additionally they'll just link lewd images from imgur or something.>While we've given quest authors a lot of leeway on this on /tg/, we have had to intervene a few times in the past when quests turned into wank materialThe 500 Waifu quests say otherwise. Keep pictures.
Letting participants post pictures could help - marking locations on a map and such. Other than that, fantastic news.
>>46945911This is a horrible Idea
>>46945911Limiting image posting to OP alone feels too restrictive desu. Spamming and funposting is liable to happen regardless whether it is accompanied by images or not when someone takes offence to the quest or its development, resulting in mod/janitor being alerted regardless, and preventing other participants from contributing pictures might only end up being an annoying restrictions on people who may genuinely have something to add to the story by posting a picture OP didn't think of.
>>46945926How about there being a "quest general" instead of an across the board ban for meta discussion? I think then you could have a place for people to ask for advice, talk about different quest systems, and ask when the next session for a quest will be.
>>46945911Well, this place isn't anonkun, and users like to draw up maps and other stuff to discuss tactics and strategy to get shit done in quests. Aside from budget and resource management.How do you suppose we do that? Gonna ban imgur links and PDFs?
>>46945926>>46945911Where does all the art by the quest readers go to? Have you actually been to /tg/?
>>46945926When will we learn what was the first kitties?
>>46945911>>46945926I think allowing images is important. Maybe limit them in some other way so people won't spam them, but I think drawfags alone are enough to warrant allowing them.
>>46945911I think that the rules are way too strict, specially the part of only OP being allowed to post pictures and the erotic part. This is supposed to be a +18 place. Many stories have some part of sexual point, be it rape or just for the sake of plot convenience. This isn't fanfiction.net. Also many quest have maps that many anons collaborate or drawfags that contribute to the thread.
>>46946027This shouldn't be an issue so long as you don't also block cookies.
>>46945911Please atleast read a couple of popular quests to see how they are run before using your God Powers to fuck things up for us plebians at the bottom
>>46946125Could make it so OP can chose to allow images or not, since they're getting special authority as the author anyway.
>>46945926>Erotic roleplay is not permitted. Frequent explicit descriptions of sexual encounters by a quest author may result in mod intervention.Right, so we're staying on /tg/ then?
>>46946079This sounds good, a rolling sticky for meta maybe.
When would it happen? Would quests that are currently active here, have to transition over?Also while I understand the point of the OP being only able to post pics, I disagree with it, since contributions from players are often helpful and great highlights of quests. Like if it's a written quest because the OP isn't a great artist, what if a player wants to draw some stuff for it to contribute? Or even simpler, if they want to help out with something like maps, diagrams, or even just post fanart? Also of course, kind of hinders quests that have more than one person running it, or are multiplayer in nature and require multiple players to post pics.Maybe make it that OP has an option to allow players to also post pics? Like it's an option they can check or uncheck when creating a thread?
>>46945911>Only OP can post imageswut, that's a terrible idea. Quest players always provide fan art, diagrams, strategies, etc. Discouraging that seems counter intuitive
>>46945926>Only OP can post imagesThis is the only part I disagree with.Mostly because quests tend to get lots of fanart and such and by blocking those out, that means that nobody can post their fanart. Some quest runners like myself don't actually post images at all.
>>46946143That could be a good call.
>>46945926>The main reason we took so long to make this board is that we didn't want to create a haven for erotic roleplay and erotic fan fiction.Why?I'd like some reasoning behind this. Plenty of quests have been explicitly lewd in the past and have quite literally been the most popular, if anything, wouldn't quest trends say that this board should be entirely NSFW?Alternatively, I suppose you could introduce a tagging system such as the one on /f/, which is user-submitted to allow people to shift through the threads.
>>46945911yeah only op posting pictures will hurt a lot of quests. Where will evo threads go? they won't be able to work on /qst/ and they won't be on topic in /tg/ let alone people complaining that there still there.
>>46945911Pretty shitty idea. Too strict rules and it takes away something that is part of /tg/ nowadays. If people want their own site for questing they can fuck off to Anonkun
>>46946136>questfags>plebians at the bottomYou're over half the board on average and you keep finding new ways to get your garbage past the filter. Cry more.
So this kind of ruins archiving quests for new readers if we can't archive on suptg anymore. Also quests don't take up enough board traffic to justify this, and they've been on /tg/ for almost a decade. This is unnecessary in the extreme.
>>46945911>Safe for workWhy not NSFW?>Bump limit 1000Great, thank you>User IDs>Only OP can post imagesNo, it's bad. Anons often post images for multiple reasons, like fanart (which QMs love).>OP can use basic text formatting (bold, italics, a handful of text colors)Excellent. Spoilers too, right?>Everyone gets diceNo change, but a variety of new dice and modifiers to rolls would be welcome>>46945926>This board is for author-driven collaborative storytelling (i.e. "quests"). All threads posted here should be part of a new or ongoing quest.>The author controls the story of the quest. They can take suggestions from other posters, or not, at their sole discretion. If things don't go your way don't complain!Sure>All threads on this board should be created by the associated quest author. Please refrain from making meta-threads.Can't we have one meta-thread? As much shit as the general can be, it does have its good sides and helpful discussions. Sometimes.>Erotic roleplay is not permitted. Frequent explicit descriptions of sexual encounters by a quest author may result in mod intervention.Why?
>>46945911>Bump limit 1000>OP can use basic text formatting (bold, italics, a handful of text colors)awesome>Only OP can post imagesBut this will backfire spectacularly. Plenty of quest OC comes from players / followers. Character visualization, background, stuff like that. Also some player suggestions need to be drawn rather than written. 4chan is, in its core still an imageboard, taking the images away will make things worse.Sure, there's still workarounds to that - post images on /tg/ or /trash/ and link them back to the thread but that is inconvenient.Oh and for love of moot, spoilers, please give the board spoilers.>Erotic roleplay is not permitted. Figures, blue board and all. But where does that go? /soc/ ? Once we heed the voice of our overlord, might as well clarify that.
>>46946187>it takes away something that is part of /tg/ nowadaysThat's the entire point.
>>46946193I've literally never seen 75 quests up at once. Not even during the weekend at the super high point a few years ago.
>>46945926After one month, ban everyone who posts there.
>>46946193>You're over half the board on averageAt least stop saying ridiculously obvious lies.There has never been a single point in time when more than half the threads on /tg/ were quest threads.
>>46946194I agree with this.
>>46946214>Figures, blue board and allText has always been considered SFW in the past.No one gets banned for posting "Suck a cock faggot".
>>46945911>User IDsThis is retarded. What's this supposed to help the board with?
>>46946194This is a good point, actually.Archiving is going to be a bitch, possibly for a long time. It's already something of a problem with long-running quests. Getting into them after the first few threads requires going offsite to an archive. Now they won't be able to do that and anyone who didn't get in on the ground floor will have to go in blind or not at all.
>>46946265keeps 1 person from pretending to be multiple.
>>46946265Samefagging for votes.
>>46945911That's a horrible idea if you want to let quests grow and keep functioning.Either ban them outright or stop trying to fuck up their present system of existence.
>>46946265Reduce the possibility of samefagging the vote?
>>46945911>Only OP can post imagesrip fanart, we hardly knew ye.
>>46946064The trouble is that for every image like those you describe, there are going to be 1000 meme and reaction images which completely ruin any kind of atmosphere that the quest author is trying to cultivate.One possible solution would be to permit anyone to use the painter app from /i/ to post diagrams.
>>46946217Ehh, it would feel like somebody takes sport cars out of /o/ and makes a new board for them. /asp/ went to shit after /wwe/ Generals were kicked off from /sp/, only comfy board became shit.I am probably too newfag as I am afraid that /tg/ would became even slower board with questfags leaving.I don't know, it just doesn't feel right.
>>46945911>safe for workLimits OPs ability to post good art just because it has a nipple in it>Bump limit 1000Nice>User IDs"no.">Only OP can post imagesAre we reddit now? I thought this was an imageboard>OP can use basic text formattingNice>Everyone gets dicethis was already a thing but I'm glad you didnt get rid of it for some retarded reason
>>46946265Samefagging, QMs dropping trips. It makes decent enough sense.
>>46945911The good:>User IDsNice, but I hope trips are still accepted for the quest author?>OP can use basic text formatting (bold, italics, a handful of text colors)Fucking finally.The average:>All threads on this board should be created by the associated quest author. Please refrain from making meta-threads.>All threads must be new or ongoing quests, period.Threads dedicated to discussing the quest and developments created by the author are accepted I hope?>We're aiming for adventure, exploration, suspense, mystery, etcWhat does that "etc." mean? Is there only a specific kind of quest that will be accepted there? Because I recall one author getting banned because of "That isn't /tg/ enough". What will be "not /qst/ enough"?The bad:>Only OP can post imagesLiterally why?
>>46946261I'm seriously tempted to report this post and hope mod overlord has enough sense of humor to prove you wrong.But he probably doesn't so whatever.
>>46945911This really fucks over quests that have been running on /tg/ for years, how are we going to keep the suptg archive?
>>46946319Have you ever been in a quest? For fuck's sake
>>46946319>The trouble is that for every image like those you describe, there are going to be 1000 meme and reaction images which completely ruin any kind of atmosphere that the quest author is trying to cultivate.THIS IS AN APPEAL OF A QUEST. THIS IS LITERALLY IT.
>>46946319> there are going to be 1000 meme and reaction images But this doesn't happen on /tg/. Why would it happen on the new board?
>>46945911Sounds great!Only edits I would make is allowing everyone to post pictures and maybe using the /a/ rule, spoiler it if NSFW.
>>46946037/aco/ is the place to be I think.
>>46946319You don't know what sort of atmosphere quest authors are trying to cultivate. Like, at all.
>Not just banning questsProof that mods really are faggots
>>46946327>Limits OPs ability to post good art just because it has a nipple in itThis is already a limitation, censorship is easy and it's worth it if it means smut quests die forever.
>>46946319I've never heard or seen anyone to be distracted by reaction images or any other type of images posted in a quest thread, and have never experienced this myself. Please reconsider at least that rule.
>>46946319Do you... read quests? Like at all?
>>46945926Why no on nsfw content? Why not just make it a 18+ board and give clear guidelines in which erotic content is acceptable? Also, only allowing OP to post images is a terrible idea.
>>46946033I agree, IDs should be turned off.
>>46946319>Ruin AthmosphereThe fuck are you talking about? This is not a game. Or a book. It's a quest thread on 4chan, for fucks sake. If you can't handle people reacting to what you write on fucking 4chan, then go and write a bloody book.
>>46946143It would also be nice if the OP can prevent other posters from having names or not.
>>46946347Because the new board is going to have that new board smell and attract people from all around the site.It's going to be pretty bad for a while. I'm trying to be optimistic, but this broadens the potential "player"base pretty badly.
>>46945926>rule about not complaining >no meta-threads>erp not allowedfug off
>>46946289>>46946290>>46946309Can just change the IP and clear cookies.>>46946328>QMs dropping tripsThis is going to HURT. A lot.
I am not a questfag, and I do not like quests on /tg/. I've seen a lot of them over time, and this feedback is coming from someone who wants them to have a good place to go.>SFWWhy? A lot of quests boil down to Waifu Harem, /tg/ has a history of being semi-nsfw, and even the new management hasn't changed much of that.You don't have to make it an orange board, but you should allow them to describe semi-lewd things so long as it's not 100% ERP. They fucking LOVE their shipping in some quest communities, and if you lock them out of it, they will be upset.>Bump limit 1kThis is only good.>User IDsGood.>Only OP can post imagesAre you dense? Are you retarded or something? This is an imageboard and we make good use of our medium. Users upload images, including reaction images. Make spamming images a bannable offense, or include an increasing /r9k/ style timer for posting images. Post one, the next has a 30 second wait. Post another, it's a 2 minute wait. Another, 5 minutes. This resets every day or so. That way, there's no image spam in big threads, but when users want or need to post relevant images, they can.>OP gets basic formattingGreat, that is good for them.>Dice for allBueno. Excellente. This is good too.>"The point of limiting images to the OP is to make sure that people don't get distracted by reaction images, and to allow the OP more control over the setting and tone in the thread."Reaction images are only a distraction if things are shit, or if a troll is determined. If a troll is determined, you can't stop them short of a ban. They'll use big posts, or image-based text, or whatever.As for controlling the tone? Frankly, users sometimes NEED a break. I have run live-action horror LARP events that take place over three days. When things get really grim, sometimes everyone will crack up over something funny and take 30 seconds out of character because, as a person, they need a break from the bleakness.>cont
Oh god why
>Safe for workSure.>Bump limit 1000OK.>User IDsCool.>Only OP can post imagesPlease no. I understand the reasoning, but going to a 3rd party site in order to post fanart or diagrams is inconvenient. Besides, just because people can't post reaction images doesn't mean that they can't post text reactions. I know it doesn't happen OFTEN, but when it does, it's great (pic related). Also QuestDrone pls come back.>OP can use basic text formatting (bold, italics, a handful of text colors)Sure, please remember spoilers (surprise text). >Everyone gets diceOK.>All threads on this board should be created by the associated quest author. Please refrain from making meta-threads.Can there be an exception made for a rolling "advice sticky" that occasionally has the OP refreshed with new material?General questions:- Can there be a discouragement of "post ending in X decides what happens?"- Will quests be forced off of /tg/ after a grace period or will quests continue to be permitted on /tg/? I know you can move threads now, but 3rd party archives (suptg mostly) will need to update or make some other kind of call on what will happen to old quest threads that are effectively required reading for participation.
>>46946319It's like talking to a kid that has no idea about quests.
>>46946319Literally newer seen a quest, jesus fucking christ. Fuck off mod with your shitty ideas. Go into suptg and read few more popular quest or storytimes you fucking twat
>>46946033I assume IDs would be thread-based like /pol/.
>>46946265Cutting down on accusations of samefaggotry, one assumes.Not that I support this motion in any way, shape, or form, mind you.
>>46946319Quest atmosphere is made by collaborative effort of QM and the players. Memes are made by trolls, players have no reason to troll their own quests.Also this >>46946346After some 100 threads the number of inside jokes that only regular players can get grows into staggering proportions.
>>46946194Yeah, this seems like it would create more problems then it could ever hope to solve.
>>46946194>they've been on /tg/ for almost a decade.A pretty good point desu. While I think quests as they are on /tg/ currently are a problem, I don't think they should go away completely and be sent to their own board. Some of the best /tg/ threads of all time, have been quests.Although in my opinion at least, I wouldn't mind seeing written quests go. I guess I've always been partial to drawn quests, maybe because they just don't go on for as long so they don't take up as much board space. How often does a drawn quest get to an "episode 100", compared with how many written quests have?
>>46945926These all sound terrible and you should quit your internet-job.
Stupid, open question but I haven't followed the quests trend:What is /tg/ for if we remove another popular topic from it?I'm surprised that threads get pruned (archived, whatever) within a day now.What topics are left? It seems like the rest of the board is generals and hypotheticals ("If you were an elf..." or whatever).Can we go back to having specific threads? I don't understand why all D&D discussion has to be confined to the designated D&D General. There isn't a Quest General where all quests go.
>>46946423>implying they give a shit
>>46946319All the quests I've participated in have never had a problem with reaction images, and in fact some authors encourage that. Why make assumptions on what the majority of QMs feel takes away from the atmosphere?
>>46946382But as >>46946071 points out, funposting is going to happen regardless.
>>46946319Speaking as a QM, I'd like my players to have the ability to post images. That's my only real complaint, everything else seems cool.
>>46946319That's not really how it works, for the most part. One of the appeals of questing is that you're there with other players taking part. Reaction images don't really harm that at all.It's rare that a quest's atmosphere is ruined by reaction images, and it's more common that a quest's atmosphere is *reinforced* by reaction images. Like when something goes down and an 'OH SHIT' reaction images pops up, that raises the tension.On /tg/, no quest I saw had a problem with reaction images, and taking away fanart is a pure negative.
>>46946465What and ruining Archiving isn't a big deal?
>>46946382This. This new board will not be populated by only a subset of /tg/'s userbase. It will be populated by anyone who is curious enough to show up. The rules are being written to take into account the influx of users who have no knowledge of /tg/'s culture. Maybe when the new board smell has vanished we can revisit image replies for everyone. But I don't think it's a good idea when the board is just getting established.
This is basically Age of Sigmar all over again. Exactly what we asked for, totally not what we wanted. Thank you monkey paw.
>>46945911>Bump limit 1000Eh, ok. BUt will you increase the post size? The 2000 character limits is what makes writing a chore.>User IDsPlease no, I've had to samefag in some quests to keep them alive long enough for it to grow a legit readerbase.
>>46946319It sounds like you've not actually seen or played through a quest before.Not trying to be snide, just trying to make a suggestion, if something as big as a new board is being considered.
>>46946403I don't see how a great drawing like this will be limited by the /i/ paint app.Don't blame your tools, blame the artist.
>>46946319I still feel as though letting the OP decide could work. If they want a more serious tone, then banning images is fine. If they don't mind as much, they can open it up.If people spam up the thread with memes and the QM decides they didn't like that, they can just disallow them next thread.I'm not sure how feasible that would be to implement though.
>>46946194Archiving is going to be a big problem.I could see sup/tg/ expanding its archiving over to the new board though.If that doesn't work out, its best to keep quests on /tg/.
>>46945911>>46946319>Only OP can post images>On an imageboardLiterally kill yourself.
>>46946481Couldn't you just have a sticky discouraging dumb reaction posts?
>>46945911My suggestion on images is that the OP should have a choice to allow or deny others from posting images in their threads. Many quests rely on pictures posted by people other than the OP (MGNQ with their "voting closed" banners, MAQ and people proposing new spells, to name two)
>>46946492>I've had to samefag in some quests to keep them alive long enough for it to grow a legit readerbase.This is terrible. Even worse if you were the QM.
>>46945911Go dive into quests yourself op then come back with some useful ideas.
>>46946451People aren't confined to generals. You could make a thread right now asking something about Magic or D&D and no one would delete it. People just prefer to gather in general threads because it's easier.
>>46946481>ruining new board shitposting just because you dont want to deal with itWow its almost like mods are lazy fat fucks
>>46946481So why don't you just have it as an toggle option instead of blanket banning it?
>>46946482Oh fuck you are right! This is Age of ChineseMoot!
>>46946391 cont>>46946319 One possible solution would be to permit anyone to use the painter app from /i/ to post diagrams.People can and will use it for shitposting if they want to.>This board is for author-driven collaborative storytelling (i.e. "quests"). All threads posted here should be part of a new or ongoing quest.On one hand, no shitposting. On the other, metathreads are important.>The author controls the story of the quest. They can take suggestions from other posters, or not, at their sole discretion. If things don't go your way don't complain!Legit. This is Rule Zero of GMing and necessary.>All threads on this board should be created by the associated quest author. Please refrain from making meta-threads.Meta-threads ARE important. We have a rolling metathread and it contains things. Require all non-quest threads to have a certain word such as META or DISCUSSION in the title, and you make it easy to filter them.>Erotic roleplay is not permitted. Frequent explicit descriptions of sexual encounters by a quest author may result in mod intervention.As long as people can skirt the boundaries and post occasional lewdness, it's OK. You let us have /wst/ for a long time, and frankly I liked having it around. This is 4chan for snacks' sake, we're never going to be SFW, even if the board is blue. Make it clear that if people push too far they'll be sanctioned, but let them have occasional waifu titty snuggling or there may be trouble from them.
>>46946481>Posting images is badHow did you become Manager again? You're clearly unfit for the "job".
>>46946481I'm sorry Mod but this is an awful Idea on so many levels. New threads won't magically replace Quests once they're gone. /tg/ will suffer from the lack of influx. Also they've been here for eight fucking years, there is no point or reason to do this. /qst/ will die in a week.
>>46946504I don't think the sup/tg/ guy cares that much. He always struck me as pretty neutral on the topic and only kept quests around as a courtesy. Which I appreciate, but I don't know if he'd extend it to an entirely new board.
>>46945911>Bump limit 1000HOLY MOTHER OF KEKDo you want the board to have 1 months old abandoned threads with 200 posts in it?The only quest that might hit 1000 posts in a session on a good day is Banished.
>>46946504sup/tg/ has no reason to, since the owner mostly hates quests.
>>46946505But this is exactly how some Japanese imageboards work. Including Futaba Channel before 4chan copied it.
>>46946509A sticky would just encourage people to do that.They would want to rebel against the rules for the lulz or whatever
>>46946492Oh good point. Add more than 2000 characters and tabulations for thread starters.PLEASE TABULATIONS
>>46946509Stickies like that aren't very effective. We ban tons of people every day who don't read stickies and follow basic published rules.
>>46946492>Please no, I've had to samefag in some quests to keep them alive long enough for it to grow a legit readerbase.That would be less of a problem on a pure quest board because you're only competing with other quests, rather than quests + M:tG, D&D, elf slave wat do, etc - and everyone on the board is there to find quests, so there should be no shortage of potential readers. If your quest still can't survive in that scenario it's probably boring.
>>46946549But it's not how 4chan works, idiot. Never has and hopefully never will.
>>46946481>Maybe when the new board smell has vanished we can revisit image replies for everyoneI think you don't know what you're talking about.
>>46946556Maybe your rules are SHIIIIIIIT
>>46946541We have shitposted about nearly every DnD system so far and repeated it twice.
>>46946451>I don't understand why all D&D discussion has to be confined to the designated D&D General. It's not? Just post the threads you want to see. Be the change you want!
>>46946546I think the idea is that you just go back to the previous thread if its still up. 1000 posts is enough to get anywhere from 8 to 2 sessions of most quests. I can think of a few that passed 1000 in a single thread with the normal bump limit, and it would actually help them too since they'd only start falling at the tail end.
>>46945911Man, you've missed the point of questing completely. I'm a QM on another site who used to dabble in /tg/, and I am confident in stating that whoever made those rules is either actively trying to kill questing or has literally never looked inside a quest thread before.
>>46946556Can you please respond to the actual questions which will majorly impact upon the board you're about to create?
>>46946481You really don't understand do you?This is an imageboard, you are making a board that discourages the basic foundation of 4chan, do you really understand what you are implying here? Because at this point I doubt that you have really ever read a quest or even lurked 4chan, banning image posting because you are afraid of shitposting (which isn't common at all in quests) is retarded.
>>46946550>>46946556Fair enough. Someone mentioned /soc/ ITT and I just visited there out of curiosity (never been). I like the sticky but I can see how it might be ignored.
>>46946451The larger a board's population, the faster topics move off the end of the board.Generals are a response to growing board size, to keep things contained, to stop threads killing each other too fast, and to make it easier to find what you're after.Think of it this way - generals are basically micro-boards that develop when a board gets too big. Quests have been massive for long enough that a split is maybe warranted.That said, I dislike the /aco/ split. Good western art is a thing nowadays, unlike 2007-era deviantart shitscribbles, and /aco/ is full of everyone from /e/-level No Tits Please to /d/-tier "fuck me with a dick made of dicks while I shit, senpai"
>>46946481>>46946530This is an excellent idea. If you can't handle it, leave the decision up to the OP to decide whether or not reaction images posted by his players will ruin the immersion or not.
>>46945911>Only OP can post imagesThis stops people from posting fanart, helpful images, and smug reaction images for/in collaboration with the GM. Since everyone would IDs with the current system, maybe make it so the OP can designate if users/which users can post images on the thread? Maybe make it a control panel when making a thread on the board perhaps?
>>46946481Honestly, man, as a QM? I'd be pretty damn upset for my players not to have images. And I know plenty of others who will be too. Players contribute to a quest with their own content, be it writing, drawing, audiobooking (no, really). That's part of the participation aspect of the whole thing, man. You might have good intentions but you're putting a knife in part of what makes the format both great and unique unto itself.
>>46946591I think it's someone used to certain off-site questing who wants to allow that to move here. Hence why complaining about the QM and non-QM images are banned.
>>46946481You do realize /qst/ traffic is going to be dead after 2 weeks right?I'm thinking this is just a plan to kill 4chan quests; something thats been a part of /tg/ culture for a long time.
>>46945911>User IDsIs there a way to make that optional at the discretion of the QM?
>>46946194>Quests don't take up enough board traffic>48/150 threads on /tg/ are quest and generals>1/3 of the board is fucking quest and generalsYeah nah you're a faggot. /tg/ is creatively stagnant.
Hm, will the board have a function that will only show posts by the quest master, or for them to tag posts as PLOT, and allow users to filter by that?
The best way is to apply special CSS/JS to threads with "quest" in the title ON TG. Also, delete anything that's reported as a quest without "quest" in the title.No ban, just deletion. As quest authors will occasionally forget to fill the title field, it's happened enough times.
>>46946612>the OP can designate if users/which users can post images on the threadThat's going to make a terrible circlejerk shit, I can smell the stink even before it exists.
>>46946481Yeah, you really need to re-think this. Worst case your janitors have to do a bit of extra work for a while, who cares? Maybe you don't give a shit, but we kinda do, getting fanart and images is a big part of questing. Please allow images from everyone, not just OP.
I just remembered one of the old arguments against this and I think it's relevant enough to bring it back up.Quests that are relegated to their own board literally can't get new players incidentally. A lot less people are going to go to the designated quest board to look around than would happen to see a quest while on /tg/ looking for other things.That might mean that quests get slow and circlejerky. More so than they already can get, that is.
>>46946541The bottom line is, quests will now be bannable on /tg/. That's what everyone who doesn't follow them wanted. For those people the new board will serve its purpose regardless whether it actually lives or not.
>>46946481And they'll all fuck off after a couple weeks when they get bored / realize how autistic questing is.
>>46946629Sure there is a way to make the board that way, but mods won't bother doing so.
>All these questfags mad that they're finally getting exiledGet fucked. You've been a cancer on this board for far too long. Be thankful you're getting a board at all instead of getting outright banned for your faggotry, (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>46946639This could be easy solution
>>46946632>and generalsAt least try to have an argument that you don't shoot down yourself.
>>46946632>Quests and generals are the same thingYeah, nah.
>>46946657Enjoy have a dead /tg/ then.
>>46946641This.Literally the most retarded idea in this sticky, even if the mod actually tried to go full retard.
>>46946657>He doesn't know moot already declared quests belong in /tg/>He hasn't read anything in this threadSigh. The average low intelligence of an anti-quest fag.
>>46945911>>46946319>>46946481Replying as a regular artist for various quests, not being able to post images is the worst of the proposed rules.I enjoy regularly making content for the qm's I'm friends with, and one of my favorite things about 4chan is that I can in fact share and give fan art back to the community.Furthermore, it's 4chan. Sharing ideas and thoughts through images is the lifeblood of the website. It's what makes it unique, special. I can't imagine the "4chan questing experience", so to speak, without being able to post and share images as well.A 1000 reply bump limit also seems far too much. A majority of the quests I've seen will maybe hit 100-200 replies before they fall off the board. I can only think of major and massive quests like Kant-O-Celle or Maid Quest and the such ever hitting such a large post count. I'm afraid that with a 1000 bump limit would just lead to the same quests clogging up the board for days on end. One of the appeals of questing is that everyday, *something* new is running, rather than the big names constantly up. Nor do I think enough quests are running at any one time that the old threads would be bumped off the board before they hit the bump limit.Quests have been a constant source of OC and content for me on /tg/. It's going to be a shame to see them go.I hope the mod team is willing to reconsider "only OP may post images rules".
>>46946647No, that's what a certain vocal group wanted. A vocal group that consistently claims to represent literally everyone who doesn't directly oppose them.
>>46946632>all these false numbers Christ Alive >>46946657This is who you're pandering to OP.... For fuck's sake
>>46946645That argument has always been pretty stupid to me, in the age of catalogs and filters no one runs across quests unless they care to read them. Having a separate quest board will actually get more people to play quests.
>>46946632Thanks nazimod, even years after your rule, your influence on the board is still present. And perhaps it will forever.
>>46946632>quests and generalsMost of those generals are unrelated to quests and would therefor not migrate to /qst/.There are 8 quest threads up right now if I'm being general and include this sticky and a cyao
>>46946678don't flatter yourself
>>46946657Enjoy your ten extra "Elf Slut wat do" threads
>>46946699Most people don't bother using filters against them because most people aren't raging against them. Most people are neutral and apathetic on the subject, as with most subjects.
>>46946691500 bump limit would be more than enough
>>46946556Can you include a rule prohibiting paid content/donation links from QMs?Not naming names, but there have been patreon/paypal links in the past put up by QMs which lead to lower quality material being posted in the actual threads on /tg/.
>>46946528>>46946587That makes sense but I have seen people link to /5eg/ or whatever when someone asks how to get started with D&D 5E or for some 5E advice.Of course lurking more is something you should do on any message board, but there's nothing wrong with threads dedicated to specific questions (especially when you have 150+ "slots" for threads) rather than cramming seven discussions into one thread.There was a point where if someone made some significant OC, they'd make a thread about it. And we should encourage that, now we literally have "homebrew generals".And there are basically "Warhammer Wednesday" threads (they call them Generals now) on a board that was created BECAUSE OF Warhammer Wednesdays.Point is, while we're having a good ol' meta thread, I don't understand why /tg/ is. Why is /tg/?
>>46946708Anti-Quests are the worst. They said Quests are cancer but yet do nothing against. "Post lolis!! XD", "Elf slut! Wat do?", and "This is a grrl"
>>46946632Why is creating new content considered to be creatively stagnation? Quest are objectively more creative than 40k threads or elf slav what do threads.
This is really, really stupid. There is absolutely no reason to make a quest board. 8 years OP, 8 fucking years.
>>46946720There is downvote guy who downvotes the hell out of old quests on suptg. Some salty person downvoted SWQ89 to 0
>>46946731>Only Five Quests
>>46946731I didn't know anybody this dumb could exist.
>>46946731There are 5 quest threads. At least 35 of the generals are about tabletop IPs.
>>46946732That would get banned for advertising anyway, right? It's just that usually no one reports that.
>>46946731So five. There is no quest general up right now, and those CYOA threads seem to all be image CYOAs, not player-interactive ones. They wouldn't move either.
>>46946731>the vast majority is generals completely unrelated to questsWell, I guess we should ban wh40k, DnD, Pathfinder, and everything else that has a general even if it's /tg/ related, right?
>>46946731Oh my god man
>>46946731>5 = 48Nigga you high?
>>46946738I'm not anti-quests, but /tg/ survived fine before quests and will be fine after. Saying it's going to die because quests are leaving is nonsense.
>>46946731>/tg/ content is cluttering up /tg/THE HORROR
>>46946632Ok, and how many of those are quests, again?Not generals. Quests.
>>46946731>5 questTop fucking kek, what a fucking autist.
Does that mean /mlp/ still keeps its own quests? I'm pretty sure the writefags would go fucking crazy with dice and basic formatting.
One thing to consider would be to give some of those suggested things in OP to /tg/ and roll with it
>>46946731Retard, really. Holy shit, are you that dumb?
>>46945911>Only OP can post imagesInto the trash it goes
>>46946726>his quest doesn't regularly hit 800+ posts before falling of the board>laughing anime girls.jpgBut really, the bump limit might be kind of arbitrary, you need to fill 10 pages before something actually falls off the board. And while I don't have exact statistics, I don't think we have that many quests going
>>46946775If it were codified in the board rules, to include the prohibition of donations (not just advertising) it would make it more clear cut for enforcement.
This is a slippery slope, the people who asked for quest removal will never be satisfied. Their next crusade will be generals or something similar. You're pandering OP, plain and simple
Everyone knows how this goes.Mod goes and does stupid thing, community says "That's stupid" and then the community isn't listened to.It's going to happen here, just as it has before. Just stop trying to reason with it. The OP isn't even responding to people's actual concerns and probably won't do so until the topics are locked and we have no way to respond to them to tell them how fucking stupid their reasoning is.These are the people you're dealing with here. These will always be the people you're dealing with and this is literally how it's going to be until the end of 4chan.
>>46946755All that takes is one guy with one computer and a dynamic IP. Or a botnet, which is also very likely (I've seen votes go up and down like a see-saw for days because two competing votebots were at war)
>>46946731>5 quest threadsBoy, we better make a containment board for this menace.
Well it's a pretty clear consensus that you guys want everyone to be able to post images. So we'll do that.In the long run I think that'll be fine; in a month or so /qst/ will settle down and it should be pretty comfy and well-behaved just like /tg/.In the short-term the place is going to be pretty chaotic as curious newbies from all over spam garbage everywhere. In the interim we'll just have to try to do our best to clean up the mess.We'll also add the painter app because it should make it easier to post maps, diagrams, etc.
>>46946808I think its more of the fact that generals turn into hugboxes. Have you seen /ksg/ on /vg/?
>>46946556Pretty sure it had some effect back then on areas like /lit/ and it's better than nothing IMO. Plus, you can't really avoid those kind of people in this site, that's like stopping the setting sun.If you do plan to push through this, it's probably going to be a busy week for you, considering new boards get raided all the time.
>>46946319Do you guys even understand quests?
>>46946841Yeah, but he did it for every thread of like 100+ threads.
Aren't 1000 post bump limits good? The QM can run a single thread for a whole week and come back in and out and take breaks.Oh wait.This is 4chan, not ANONKUN.
>>46946839Shame /tg/ doesn't have the unity and vitriol that /a/ has when mods commit a slight over there.
>>46946853I don't go to /vg/. Why the fuck should I care what kind of threads /vg/ has?
>>46946839I hate that you're right.I really fucking do.
Only allowing the OP to post images is a non-starter.What the fuck.This is an image board.>>46946194Agreed
I don't think splitting the board is a good idea. If you're that scared about quests and generals drowning out "regular" threads, why not just increase the pages? And implement formatting in /tg/
>>46946852Well I'm sure glad you listened to literally one suggestion, the one that was the easiest for you to backpeddle on
>>46946852Still fucking stupid idea. Just kill yourself
>>46945911the only issue with only OP postign images is that some quests recieve fan-art. It's a lot easier to upload it here thna it is elsewhere sometimes. Othewrwise, okay. And the user ID's is GREAT.
>>46946852Thanks man, I would like it if you had a bit more leeway with the lewd stuff, but the main problem was the image posting, now that that has been solved I'm way calmer.Maybe 1000 posts is a bit too high though.
>>46946852>Well it's a pretty clear consensus that you guys want everyone to be able to post images. So we'll do that.The fact that you didn't see this from the very start still shows how fucking retarded you are. Good job figuring it out eventually though. Good boy.
>>46945911>Only OP can post imagesLiterally what? Why? >The point of limiting images to the OP is to make sure that people don't get distracted by reaction images, and to allow the OP more control over the setting and tone in the threadNo one asked for that, no QM would want to gimp his players from posting reaction images, fan art, and the like. Have you ever partcipated on a quest on /tg/? Legitimate question
>>46946852>In the long run I think that'll be fine; in a month or so /qst/ will settle down and it should be pretty comfy and well-behaved just like /tg/.>In the short-term the place is going to be pretty chaotic as curious newbies from all over spam garbage everywhere. In the interim we'll just have to try to do our best to clean up the mess.>We'll also add the painter app because it should make it easier to post maps, diagrams, etc.No the consensus is that this is retarded. It'll be dead in a week, there are exactly 5 quests running right now for fuck's sake.
>>46946839>>46946852You were saying?
>>46946853So ban generals then?How is that even relevant to this conversation?Don't even try to imply that quests forced other topics to make their own generals, because they didn't.
>>46946871So yeah, probably a botnet. Even a dedicated person with their router right next to them would get bored after waiting for it to boot back up for the xth time that hour.
>>46946852Awesome.No will quests still get banned if they pastebin their lewd scenes?
>>46946481Hello! I am LimeBreaker! I am too much of a lazy shit to run my own quests (outside of dumb april fools jokes), but I like to draw quest fanart, and I like being able to share it with my fellow quest readers.It'd suck to not be able to do that anymore.>>46946852>Well it's a pretty clear consensus that you guys want everyone to be able to post images. So we'll do that.HUZZAH!
>>46946839I'm not really worried. I'm beyond that point now. I believe in my QM to take his wild ride to its bitter end. Here, on /qst/ or anywhere else. I'm going to follow wherever that is.
>>46946889>And implement formatting in /tg/You know, I honestly wouldn't be against that. It could be handy as fuck for a variety of reasons.
>>46946863Time for headpats
>>46946852Ok bossThanks for that
>>46946852More than 2k characters for the thread starters plox.plox
>>46946839>>46946852There are exceptions I guess.
>>46946852>Well it's a pretty clear consensus that you guys want everyone to be able to post images>people want to post images on an imageboardGEEZ I WONDER WHY THAT'S SURPRISINGNow address the rest of the criticisms and try to contain your newfaggotry
Uh, sup, /tg/. I figure I may as well pop in and say hello, see how everyone's doing.So, anything I can do, or specifically NOT do/stop doing? I'm an open book, if anyone has questions about shit I can pull from the database, I'm open to suggestions. I guess the question is whether people would want a separate archive for /qst/ or if someone else wants to rise to that particular challenge.I know there are full-board archives out there that cache EVERY thread. I could create a mirror database for /qst/ that just links over to those sites instead of storing locally. I'm running out of room, and archiving two boards' worth of material would be a bit of a stretch, but the database alone would be easy to create and maintain for everyone.On a related note, I think /mlp/ is overrun with quests as well (or Choose Your Own Adventures as they call them). I don't know if /qst/ will lift Global Rule 15, or if /mlp/ is actually happy with the situation, but I figured it'd be worth mentioning.
>>46946852Alright, that's a good start. Everything else I can live with, even ID shit. Thank you for listening.
I don't really care for the only the op can post images rule or the User IDs one, everything else is fine, I suppose. Getting threads archived is the problem for me, someone would have to step up to do a suptg equivalent if LL doesn't want to host it.
>>46946918Yes, because the problem with ERP is that it's trash for retards and breeds more retarded trash, not that it's NWS so you can't post it on a blue board.
>>46945911>Only OP can post imagesWhat about fanart?
>>46946557If anything, it would be MORE of a problem. People won't read every quest. Now, people will be competing at even higher rates.
>>46946731>Entire new board for 5 threads
>>46946319HeyHey faggotThis is an IMAGEboard>muh distracting reaction imagesFuck right off
>>46946852Still wondering whether or not there will be a quest general thread.
>>46946901>there are exactly 5 quests running right now for fuck's sake.And of those 5, 2 are already over, 1 is paused and 1 is nearly dead.
Any chance of OP being able to ban shitposters in their own thread only?Or is that too difficult to implement/open to abuse?
>>46946906That he's ignoring that there's no reason to make a new board at all? Yeah I got that
>>469468521000 bump limit should go back to 200.The only threads on 4chan that I've seen hit 1000+ posts on a regular basis are on /v/ and the Kancolle threads on /jp/ during Event season.
>>46946944>On a related note, I think /mlp/ is overrun with quests as welloh god
>>46946918>>46946852THISMany quests have smut as a side aspect of their quest and already pastebin it. Banning them for that would completely displace them.
>>46945911>Safe for work>Erotic roleplay is not permitted.>Mfw Orc Warlord will be banned to AkunFinally.
>>46946944Please let us keep archiving quests there, pretty fucking please man.
>>46946953Clearly /tg/ needs a general board instead of a quest board spin-off.
>>46946976I see no problem with this.
>>46946852Just make thread creation a little different than other boards, and allow the OP some options to choose from when creating a thread.It's as easy as adding some boxes to tick, like >User IDs - Y/N>Image posing - Y/N/cooldown>Painter app - Y/NMaybe add some sort of tool for final destination votes as well.
>>46946319>ruin any kind of atmosphere that the quest author is trying to cultivate.In re-reading, it sounds like you're intending quests, and this intended board to be a rather serious storytelling affair and artistic endeavor similar to the other art-based boards but about writing. There's nothing wrong with this, and there certainly are quests that fall under this distinction and would benefit from a board of this nature. There's definitely a large number of quests though, that are simply not in this style. Maybe they're just not that serious, or a large part of them is player input, even if it's just memes and reaction pics. If you're trying to create a new board that cultivates that kind of serious storytelling and encourages creative play like that, I would definitely agree and be for it. I still feel though that in contrast to that, shorter and more lighthearted quests perhaps still be allowed on /tg/? Creating a new board for the more serious and longterm sort of quest would definitely cut down on the number of them on /tg/, and also not force those sorts of quests to share a board with the quicker and non-serious quests, of which there aren't that many such that /tg/ is or would be cluttered with them.Overall I can understand the push for a new board to service the large number of serious, very long (multi thread), and most often written quests which to be fair do clutter /tg/ at times. That said, from what I've seen, quests are vastly different and varied such that it feels it would be a disservice to simply shove ALL of them to their own insular board. A serious quest board with few images, user IDs and 1000 post bump limit, would be great for the long written quests. It would be a disservice for short, simple, lighthearted or "one-off" quests however, and by including all of them under one board would worsen the board itself and the idea/goal it's trying to serve.>tl;dr good for say, the long write quests, bad for a lot of other quests
>>46946852Can we have a discussion about lewd content yet? There's several ways to deal with this if you don't want it to completely dominate the board.
>>46946972Not to 200, that's retarded.500 like on /a/ is a reasonable compromise, especially if the OP could put his own thread into autosage
>>46946944If you're willing to do it, then I would appreciate it if you did. I like the way sup/tg/ is formatted. It might be better to make it a "separate" archive though. At least on a different page, since we're pandering to the vocal anti crowd.
>>46946852It's gonna be a graveyard of half-assed shit threads that will get 10/20 posts.
Oh, and regarding the suggested rules (not that my opinion holds any particular weight):* Everyone should be allowed to post images. It's an imageboard, and fan art can elevate a regular thread to legendary status, not just quests.* Offering more formatting for the OP is an excellent idea. Giving QMs even basic HTML tagging would be pretty cool.* For out-of-the-blue suggestions, I was thinking a strawpoll-esque plugin for actual 'Choose Your Own Adventure' requests from participants could be handy, but that style really varies from QM to QM.
>>46946852I don't think that the board will have enough traffic to sustain 10 pages of threads with a 1000 post bump limit. That's 100 threads at any time that need a 1000 posts just to fall off. I can't think of any quests that would need that. There's other forums that have quests, right?touhou-project.com is one of them.The population is small, but there's threads that are YEARS old still up on page ten, because even at a bump limit of 250, the site's slow pace means the threads don't hit bump limit and stay forever.It means the same few big names stay up eternally, or in the occasional instance, one quest stays up on the board for weeks and clogs the place up, because not enough quests are running at any time for it to be bumped off.From my experience, in the evenings (EST), there's 10-12 quest threads running at any time, which isn't fast enough to bump off all the old threads. Running once a week, QMs would be returning to their thread and keeping it on the board, week after week, until it falls off.
>>469468521000 bump limit is highly against the session-based running schedules of QMs. It encourages the noncommittal format of freeform RPing or fanfics.Coming back into the thread to post one or two things a week? That's bad for quest, or even story pacing.
>>46946944I prefer reading archived quests on sup/tg/ because it doesn't rape my eyes with varying text sizes like 4plebs and whatnot. But do what you will, it's your money. Anyways, thanks for all the good work all those years.
>>46946981Why are you so triggered by that quest specifically, anon?
>>46946852Sounds good. Cheers OP.
>>46946944Yep, need mod input on /mlp/ stuff.Also definitely need an archive. some sort of mirror sup/tg/ would be great.
>>46946956kindly see >>46946852
>>46946981What about MAQ?
>>46946852>Well it's a pretty clear consensus that you guys want everyone to be able to post images. So we'll do that.The fact that you didn't realize this was a bad idea from the start worries me.In any case, something I have wanted on /tg/ is post IDs like from /pol/. This is solely to identify people voting more than once in a quest.
>>46946995Horrible doujin, but I fapped.
>>46946944Hey LL, do you store threads in JSON form or do you still download them as HTML?Storing as JSON then formatting with CSS would be a good idea. Save space, and old threads can be updated to new CSS. Also I imagine it wouldn't be hard to rip data from old threads to the 4chan JSON formatting.Also, to everyone, SERIOUSLY JUST HAVE CONDITIONAL THREAD FORMATTING. FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
>>46946995>>46946976>>46946918Pretty much this.Let them keep their lewd content as long as they pastebin it.
>>46946990Some other possible options would be highlighting OP posts, making non OP images hidden unless toggled otherwise by the reader; disable trip/namefags
>>46946852Allow smut you cuck.
>>46947025Shit story, shit writing, only supported by its smut.
>>46946944Your work on suptg is huge and you require more praise than you are getting now. If this monstrosity is given birth, please allow archiving them to suptg.I use suptg quite often due to time zones and due to fact that it makes finding and reading interesting threads, quests and storytimes much easier.Thanks for your great work!
>>46946972Well you're an idiot because i've been in at least half a dozen big quests that could hit 1000 in a night. Busy times and all that cause they didn't do it every time but still more than possible.Hell SQ used to have 2 1000+ posts per run.
>>46947028We've seen what happens when GR15 is lifted for any reason, and what happens is that trolls immediately start ponyposting like maniacs because they know it makes people angry. If /qst/ suspends GR15, it might as well be renamed /mlpq/ and left to rot.
>>46947051Or they could fuck off to Akun.
>>46947062That doesn't explain why you're so triggered by it instead of all the other shit quests around.Did you get raped by a big green man, anon?You can tell us, we won't tell.
>>46946657>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)MODS = GENTLEMEN
Feature suggestion: Twitter integration:^)
>>46946944Man, you're the champion of /tg/. Just wanted you to know that. There are so many old threads that I revisit on your archive in the blind trust that they will be there again when I visit the next time.>On a related note, I think /mlp/ is overrun with quests as well>I don't know if /qst/ will lift Global Rule 15I sure hope that global rule 15 will stay in place.
>>46947058This.And please, keep /mlp/ into their own containment board.
>>46947035/pol/ IDs, ironically, make it incredibly hard to sockpuppet. New IDs flooding a thread pretty much means someone is proxying up.
>>46947059Haven't you heard? The cuck quit, this is the new guy that took the job after him.
>>46947085Stop being so triggered by my hate for low-quality smut quests.
>>46947084Silly Rena(I think), MAQ has smut!
>>46947015I'm not sure what you're intending, most of the Archived stuff on your site is quests. Nothing will change if you let them keep archiving.
>>46945911>>46945926What about CYOA threads? They're basically quests but depend heavily on multiple people posting images.>>46946986BUT MUH POORLY WRITTEN PORN
>>46945911>Only OP can post images
>>46947021I can see your point. One thing I'd like to avoid is multiple installments of a single story on the catalog at a single time. If a particularly popular quest or a particularly prolific author starts posting, they could potentially take up a significant fraction of the board.Would 750 posts be a better compromise?
Fucking Deme routinely goes for two or three threads a run.Bastard.
>>46947119>Only OP can read threads before posting
>>46947090We need to go deeper.
>>46947107I'm triggered by your being triggered, and you can't stop me.Check your trigger privilege.
Dear mods,1000 bump limit for threads is too overwhelming to consume as a reader on a session/installment basis. It's like a six inch thick doorstopper book out of nowhere compared to 16-page comic books.
>>46947083Fuck akun and fuck you. Intimate and romantic encounters are a vital part of any good story and there's no reason why an author should have to censor himself simply because they want the board to SFW. Especially when you can pastebin shit.
>>46945911Making a quest board is a terrible idea. You will be killing questing on this site in a single stroke.
>>46947126500 at the most, the vast majority of quests don't even make it that far.
>>46945911This is a really stupid idea.
>>46947126I'd say keep it at /tg/ levels. Few quests go past bump limit regularly. Also this is pointless, there are literally 5 quests up right now.
>>46946995Make the board red or it will wind up dead. Non lewd quests can run as normal amd lewd quests and the erp community can finally have a designated home. Which it deserves after being kicked around like a tin can across 4chan and back.
>>46947118>They're basically questsThey really aren't.
>>46947126Let writers close/auto-sage their own threads at will? So the super big guys can stay in one thread, then set it to drift to oblivion when done.
>>46947126>Would 750 posts be a better compromise?yes
>>46946944>I'm running out of room,Where is your Patreon that I might donate shekels?
>>46947126I don't understand the reason of the change to the bump limit to be honest. Is there one even?
>>46947151>Intimate and romantic encounters are a vital part of any good storyIntimate and romantic encounters don't need to be explicit if the writer is good enough to actually *make* a good story.
>>46946657mods = gods
>>46945911>The point of limiting images to the OP is to make sure that people don't get distracted by reaction imagesThis kills the community and hype, don't do it. Keep the threads with shorter bump limits if you're afraid of size.>>46945926>All threads posted here should be part of a new or ongoing quest.Even now this works badly. Managing timetables and players is hard. Even things like a general were only a half solution.>Erotic roleplay is not permitted. Frequent explicit descriptions of sexual encounters by a quest author may result in mod interventionVague wordings will certainly not help with how things move forward, if you must do this.>Rule 2 is pretty self-explanatory: the quest author controls the story, period. Don't be an arse and try to flip the table just because the quest author didn't take your suggestionLimited precedent in quest moderation shows this won't be good enough and has a way high chance of being abused>We're aiming for adventure, exploration, suspense, mystery, etc, and not eroticaI'm sorry, but the amount of material available won't be enough to cover the space given. It's barely a piece of /tg/, as it was minuscule before in other boards.I'm sure you know how a new boards fills up by now. Other crossposters will have ample space to stake a claim, and it will likely go worse than /asp/.I would rather you think this further, but you seem to have reached finality rather than planning here.
>>46947126500 would be better. The majority of quests don't even really reach that high. The ones that do are either very popular, or exception to the rule.
>>46947142I was born in a high-triggering environment with trigger-happy parents that got triggered at everything I did. I don't NEED to check my trigger privilege. You need to check yours, you cis trigger-scum.
>>46947168And for the bastards that don't, re-introduce Marked for Deletion (Old), with a limit of a day.
>>46947151>wanting intimate and romantic encountersM A G I C A L R E A L MAGICALREALMSMUGFAGS GET OUT
>>46947028I bring up /mlp/ specifically because a lot of other boards have jettisoned quests onto /tg/. With a proper /qst/ board, you'll see /co/, /a/, and yes, /mlp/ wanting to try their hand at collective gaming. Even /trash/ has quests, though they're mostly sporadic and/or a joke.>>46947050I still download them as HTML. A thousand years ago, I decided this was the most appropriate way to completely preserve the target threads, after seeing other archive services kinda shit the bed. Granted, I also started sup/tg/ as an experiment that I didn't think would last more than a couple months, and yet here we are almost a decade later.With the new 4chan APIs, I could rebuild the archive to use a much smaller footprint, though I'm still constrained on space for what I already have. Still, as mentioned, relying on third-party hosts for the thread archival while just maintaining a relational database so readers can track whole quests would work for the new board.I'll have to think about it, either way. Are there any archive admins around that could weigh in on the new board, or how they feel about having a DB point at their sites? I don't make ad revenue off sup/tg/ and don't care if others do for hosting the pages.
>>46946944FIX IT LL FIXITFIXI<3 you're a bloody saint
>>46947126>One thing I'd like to avoid is multiple installments of a single story on the catalog at a single time.This happens even on present day /tg/, unless you reduce the number of threads on the board, you can't really prevent it. When somebody ruins three times a week and somebody once a two weeks (if that) there will be disparity and overlaps.
>>46947126I think you could take it lower. Honestly, if a quest is getting that many posts in a single day, then starting up a new thread when the old one dies is easy enough.There are other quests on this board that barely scrape 100 posts though. They'll be floating around for a long time, which could cause issues.
>>46947126Let me put it this way- you WILL NOT have enough quests live on the board at once to fill up anything CLOSE to the catalog.
>>46947126yes, 750 please
>>46947159They don't see that as a problem. This is just a soft euthanasia.
>>46947184>I'm sorry, but the amount of material available won't be enough to cover the space given. It's barely a piece of /tg/, as it was minuscule before in other boards.>I'm sure you know how a new boards fills up by now. Other crossposters will have ample space to stake a claim, and it will likely go worse than /asp/.>I would rather you think this further, but you seem to have reached finality rather than planning here.FUCKING THIS
>>46947126Yea that'd be pretty good.No matter what you do there's still going to be threads fall under or over the number. sometimes you don't even get 100 posts in the smaller quests and sometimes the bigger ones are 2 1000+ post threads.
>>46947126Dude, they said it above already. 350-500 posts is the maximum tolerable limit for readers.Also, with your come-and-go 700/1000 post bump limit, it encourages writers to be undisciplined in handling the story.So imagine a writer whose 600 something quest thread rots on the board for a year because he got lazy and never shows up, or just posts once a week or once every two weeks. That's not the kind of storytelling even _you_ want.
>>46947136>Twitter>FacebergGod no, the April Fools Facebook integration alone was triggering.
>>46947126750 is better, but I still think 500 is the magic number.
What we need on this subject is opinions of seasoned QMs. They have more experience in questing than bunch of mods.
>>46946319What if meme reaction images are the kind of atmosphere I'm trying to cultivate?
>>46946944>So, anything I can do, or specifically NOT do/stop doing?Do more Retsupurae stuff please. They've been getting lazy lately.
>>46947190You were shaped by and adapted to triggers.But I was born triggered.Even before forming in the womb, as I drifted through the supraether, existence itself triggered me.
>>46947168>Let writers close/auto-sage their own threads at will? So the super big guys can stay in one thread, then set it to drift to oblivion when done.Manual thread closing is another viable option.
>>46947216Don't start inviting tripfags in here...AMPM will just start a shitposting fest.
>>46947118>What about CYOA threads? They're basically quests but depend heavily on multiple people posting images.They're not the same thing at all and I doubt they will be rolled together, since any rules required for quest threads wouldn't apply to CYOA threads.
>>46947168This is a GOOD idea and should be used.
>>46945911How many dead quests you think that board will collect?User IDs are a very, very bad idea. It limits the QMs themselves and the creators of content. There are many QMs who changed names so they could run a new quest; sometimes it was due their first one failing, sometimes it was due too much trolling and shitposting, sometimes due losing all motivation for one but gaining inspiration for another.Hell, orc warlod quest, one of our current medium to big quests, was that QM's thrid attempt into questing. His previous two quests died, until he hit gold with OWQ. Now he's a successful, famous QM with more than one quest active.Please, think of the QMs.
>>46946481>This.Fuck off, Redditor.
>>46947193Fuck off fag, smug a best.
Namefags please go.User IDs is a weird idea. Would it make it sad that only a handful of anons are playing someone's quest? Yeah, though it has the opposite effect as well; a good amount of unique IDs would be great feedback. It'd also solve the samefag issue, I guess. I don't know how much User IDs solved /b/ and /pol/, but I've never been on those boards too much. Either way, people are going to inevitably namefag and tripfag. I'm moreorless skeptical about User IDs but I guess I'm not entirely opposed. The bump limit is atrociously large as well. If it's to contain both quests and the discussion of it in one thread, it's good. I'd rather not have generals for quests either, to be quite frank. I'd probably make the bump limit smaller.
>>46947058>>46946990Maybe add an option to lower the threads bump limit.
>>46947159>You will be killing questing on this site in a single stroke.Is that bad?>>46947151>"story">"author"The drivel questrunners peddle isn't even worthy to exist as pulp fiction.>>46947216We really don't need the opinions of hacks, attention whores, and waifushitters.
>>46945926>The main reason we took so long to make this board is that we didn't want to create a haven for erotic roleplay and erotic fan fiction. Why not? This is fucking 4chan, we have /d/, nobody is going to get fucking triggered.>While we've given quest authors a lot of leeway on this on /tg/No you haven't you lying cunt, you've been tumblr-tier puritans.>we have had to intervene a few times in the past when quests turned into wank material.No, you've chosen to throw around your big floppy mod cocks when someone has #triggered you with something, while leaving other things just as and more smutty entirely untouched because you're cockgarbling hypocrites with the self-awareness of a moist sponge.>If you want erotica try another venue.Again, why? You haven't actually given a reason beyond being squeamish little pissants not fit to moderate a Christian corn discussion forum.
>>46947216At least three different QMs that I know of are posting in this thread.
>>46947198>>46947126If you want to actually prevent this you're going to have to adjust after the fact because of the new traffic that will flood in from the rest of 4chan. will create new quests, make big quests bigger, make more big quests. And just generally skew all the numbers.Best to leave it at 750 for now and see how things turn out after everything has settled down.
>>46947126No, since there probably aren't enough quests to fill up the 150ish topics at a time. Basically anyone who runs regularly will by virtue of output take up a section of the board, since there isn't anything else pushing them off. Taking a look at sup/tg/, you'd need to go to last week in order to get 150 threads, and that's with /tg/ bump limits.
>>46947256I don't think it really matters that much. Most people who are involved in quests can spot EGO from a mile away, and he changed his name and trip 3 times a week.
>>46946944I hope you can find a way to keep threads on sup/tg/, but I understand if that would cause you money problems
>>46947256>User IDs are a very, very bad idea. It limits the QMs themselves and the creators of content. There are many QMs who changed names so they could run a new quest; sometimes it was due their first one failing, sometimes it was due too much trolling and shitposting, sometimes due losing all motivation for one but gaining inspiration for another.Don't talk about stuff you don't understand. Used IDs are limited to threads.
>>46947108Don't argue with Rena, she missed lesbian undertones in Madoka, despite said undertones being more on an overtones...On more serious note, MAQ never went the way of BFQ / Fuck Quest / anything by EGO. There's implications or an offhand mention, sure, but the actual nswf stuff has never been brought up in the thread. It stays in the pastebins and imgur.
>>46947271>m-muh pron, muh freedoms, muh tomblr conspiracydumb smutposter
>>46947126I think you should allow the OP to auto-sage, close, or delete their own thread instead.If that isn't possible, then I suggest 500.>>46947184I agree with this. This whole idea seems a bit premature and not well thought out.I wonder understand the need for a specific quest board. There are not that many quests active on /tg/ to require it.
>>46947256Apparently IDs are based on cookies, so they can always clear them off and get new ones.
>>46947271>we have /d/, nobody is going to get fucking triggered.Other than people that avoid /d/ because they hate it.
>>46946852You realize you are killing how quests get new readers? People stumble across quests. Thats how quests get new readers who arnt already interested in quests.shit is fine as it is. Stop trying to fix what isnt broken.
I make civ quests here most days.This is an interesting idea, glad to see you will allow posters to use images, it gets stale if I'm the only one who can, I feel lonely in a way ;_:I think 1000 bump limit is too much, 500 seems reasonable. I usually manage within 300 anyway, but this'll encourage the players to post freely and not worry, so that's good.I make my sessions evening time here in Europe and they can last up to 8 hours. Sometimes the thread is still alive on the morning afterwards.I would really like to be able to close my thread manually, I don't want to clog up the catalog, though it rarely happens for the previous thread to still be around by the next evening.I started my threads on /pol/ originally and what I liked were that the userIDs made samefagging much, much harder. I will be happy to see thread-specific userIDs.Maybe I can finally change the name of my quest, since we don't really live in the Tundra anymore.
>>46947194I'd turn off adblock for ya if you ever do put ads up
>>46947282>Taking a look at sup/tg/, you'd need to go to last week in order to get 150 threads, and that's with /tg/ bump limits.Just to make sure, that's counting individual quests and not accounting for threads that have run multiple times in that period, right?
>>46947271Listen to this man, mods, smutfags need to get out.
>>46947269Stop trolling, you won. Can't you at least be a decent winner?
>>46946391>If a troll is determined, you can't stop them short of a ban.If a troll is THAT determined, they'll just evade and continue to shitpost.
>>46947269>WaaaaahWhat have you created lately, anon? Because unless you actually know something about creating stuff, then your opinion is literally worthless.
>>46945911>Erotic roleplay is not permitted.then atleast make a second board for that, jesus fucking christ, and you just fucked Suptg which is used mostly for questing, how the fuck will we archive now.Holy shit you are faggots.
>>46947168>So the super big guys can stay in one threadFor you
>>46947194You really should update it to use JSON. It uses an incredibly smaller amount of space, and the old threads, the really old ones, their formatting is fucked up anyway.It could also make it easier to have the archive consolidate duplicate images. So you don't have 900 copies of smug-girl.png devouring precious server space.
>>46947168How about an automatic autosage after a fixed time, maybe 48 hours? That way old threads won't hang around long after the quest author has stopped posting, but it still gives everyone long enough to comment on the quest.
>>46947280The new traffic won't consist of anything but shitposters and trolls who'll get bored in a month or two and never come back.
>>46945911>>46945926I would like to know you think this has any chance of success under these parameters beyond "there were some threads on /qa/ about it"This feels like a very unannounced move, the conversion rate of posters is nebulous at best, and will likely kill a small slice of content that was already dealt a grave blow by corralling it into /tg/
>>46946732Which QMs do that? IIRC decu has a patreon.
>>46947314Seconding this. Just apply these changes to tg.
>>46945911>Safe for workYa blew it.
>>46947315500 posts are enough. More than that and you'll have zombie threads.
>>46947353This is the announcement, you moron.
>>46947340The problem isn't that old threads won't hit autosage, it's that the board will be so slow that threads that autosage will take forever to drop off the board.
>>46947340I don't know if new threads will be made quickly enough to prune saged threads.
>>46947079This can be easily remedied if the mods actually had enough foresight to prepare for it. It would be rampant for a few days, yes, but then they get bored of it and things stabilize with the right moderation. Besides, if images are only limited to the OP then random horseposting would be kept to the designated horse quests, and anything posting outside of it could easily get hammered with GR3.GR15 wouldn't even have to exist if you people could learn to just ignore, report, and move on with your day.
>>46947264User IDs are only thread based. Thank Yahweh Luggage Lad changed it as it was initially IP based. Additionally, IP count already shows a general participation rate anyway, so attaching IDs won't change what we already know.
>>46947340Lots of qms have done multi-day threadsYou would know that if you weren't a dumb redditor who knows fuck all about anything you're trying to police
>>46947340On a 150 thread board with 750 bump limit, threads would hang around for 24 after the session ends at least no matter what.
>>46947340Sure. This is a board where Marked for Deletion (Old) makes more sense than a low bump limit.
>>46947340That could be a good option. That'll prevent people from keeping them alive too long, while making it so people can discuss the quest at length once it ends for the day without having to worry about needing to let it die.
>>46947309>>46947282>>46947211Man yall seem to be pretty misinformed about how big quests currently get.BQ hit 870 on sunday and that was one of our smaller threads AND we have an irc to contain a lost of the shitposting.Best to keep the 750 limit and see how things are after the move.
>>46947368How is that a problem? They get naturally pushed down by literally any other thread that gets made, and threads are infinite.
>>46947340This would be alright, but again, I just don't see why you put the bump limit that high. And the thread is going to be in the low activity range anyways.
>>46947340Works for me.
>>46946356This is false.
>>46946944I'd just like to say thank you for getting archives so right.Archiving EVERY post without a voting/approval system is one of the worst things to happen to 4chan. It ruins the ephemerality and anonymity of the site, whereas an archive that acts as a "best of" or a point of reference is the way to go.As for quests, please just archive the good ones. Don't feel obliged to archive them all just because they're quests. Or to let them all be archived simply because quests are OC. A lot of them are shit.
>>46947389>and that was one of our smaller threadsStop lying, faggot. That was at least an average thread.
GAS THE MODSASTHEMODS
>>46947309>allow the OP to ... delete their own thread instead.Oh boy, I can already see some amateur QM trying to run a quest, giving up halfway through because he can't take the critique and crashing the whole things with no survivors...Bonus points for said QM being EGO.
>>46947392People will still be able to post in those threads, leading to them basically becoming more focused Quest Thread Generals. And no one wants more QTGs.
>>46946319The community and playerbase reacting is the whole point. Many QMs have declared they enjoy discussion and hype coming from their players.
>>46947389>that was one of our smaller threadsNo it wasn't, everyone just got hyped for metal grandmastery and trying to not die attempting it.
>>46947340OR Now bare with me, YOU DON'T MAKE A POINTLESS BOARD.
>>46947340Have you ever, like, read a quest? Participated in one? Do you have any idea how the fucking things actually work?Because you're coming across as a bumbling middle manager spouting buzzwords about synergy and thread atmosphere
>>46945911>>46945926What's going to be done about the abomination that is Jumpchain? >>46944495>#808
>>46947340That sounds pretty good.
Uh, mod sama, you might have killed of suptg.And please remove the >only OP can post picsban, the little reaction images and responses the participants add brings life to the stories
>>46947340What will that do? Absolutely nothing. The board will not be fast enough to kick anything off the board in a timely manner. That's just the nature of quests. There are not enough of them to warrant the creation of a new board.
>>46947340>Replying to KottersThanks a lot. Now he'll be impossible to live with.
>>46946319Who the fuck are you? You're talking out your ass.
>>46947412ehh, i'll give you that. But still. Add a shitsotrm and remove the irc and you got 2000 posts easy.
>>46945926>We're aiming for adventure, exploration, suspense, mystery, etcWhat kind of content are you going to ban apart from erotica?
>>46947392The threads don't get pushed down because nobody posts and nobody makes threads, since it'll be a dead fucking board. How many QMs do you think are active at any given time? 5-10 at best, and only for a few hours. And some quests don't even have regular playerbases in the twenties. That's a pitiful amount of active posters.
It's an interestign idea, and I'll give it a try. But realistically, 300 is a fine post limit. There are maybe two who go beyond that, and that's largely because they don't announce their threads, they literally keep the thread alive so that the quest players know it's there. And not allowing pastebins at all doesn't just hurt the smut aspect - a large number of QMs use pastebin for quest information, character sheets, side stories (smut or not), worldbuilding, etc. Allow pastebinning for smut, because otherwise you'll be worried about pastebins for smut sneaking in under the guise of worldbuilding. Allowing reader images is a smart move. >>46946944Thanks for your hard work and for listening in on this. If you manage to support /qst/ I'll be pleased - a mirror database would be incredibly helpful.
>>46947419If their posts are not about the quest, that's off-topic and the posts can be removed.
>>46946481Wouldn't you just end up with some people trying to run good serious quests, and having to share a board with people who just run shitty or low-effort "quests"? That's what it sounds like, if the idea is to open the gates so to speak, and try to open the access to the entire site and attract any and everyone. Increasing userbase is a nice goal to try to achieve, but you're trying to increase userbase on 4chan. People from /b/ or /s4s/ coming over and making "quests", or going into serious quests.At least on /tg/, by default the userbase is in tune with the idea of quests and a mindset to make good ones and play as a good player. Plus, quests being part of /tg/ tradition so ostensibly there's a kind of standard people can follow or try to work by. Certainly there are shitty quests on /tg/ that clutter the board, but shouldn't the problem be to remove or separate those ones, rather than all of them including the good, quality ones and/or the ones that distinctly are or try to be /tg/-related? I'd hate to see something like a Space Marine Quest have to go, just so that a Harem Waifu Quest would have a place to go.I know if I was a /tg/er or any other board denizen for that matter, say a /co/er, and I wanted to make a thread and went over to the /quest/ board and saw shit like memetastic /s4s/-esque or harem waifu quests, I'd not want to proceed any further. And imagine being someone who did try, and had to share space with that?
Are tripcodes the same across boards?I've never really paid enough attention to them to notice
>>46946976They can always go to /trash/
>>46947340What's your favorite quest, Mr. Manager?
>>46947449No, you don't.The irc has like 8 active people in it at most who only post as much as they do because no captcha and on irc.
>>46947420Read the rest of the thread, we're over that now.
>>46947373Oh, well shit I'm gay thenGood to know for sure
>>46947465Yes, I can confirm.
>>46947465yes. I get brickbats thrown at me when I post on /twg/
>>46947414If we took away the mods hotpockets, would they die?
>>46947340Honestly reading through this, this sounds something like an unholy fusion between /f/ and an imageboard. Will you be introducing tags for the content of the threads too? Might be helpful for filtering due to the lack of a Quest Thread General which no longer can recommend threads.
I haven't seen this level of management not knowing how things work and yet still trying to change them since I got off work a few hours ago.Jesus Christ guy, at least try to pretend you have a cursory knowledge of the subject matter at hand.
Dibs on managing the 4CC team.
Can we have one board for nsfw tg content? Sounds like a good opportunity. It would definitely increase the activity of the board as well. Which could very well be an issue.
>>46947457You're absolutely retarded and wrong about the bump limit shit.and you're right about the pastebin shit.
>>46945911I have to ask: Why now? What's the actual reason for this?
>>46947501You don't even run quests on 4chan.
>>46947479so, all we do is wait until the hub hub dies right?
>>46947439>not being happy for Kotters that fampai noticed himthat's not very sugoi
>>46947501Go back to writing fluffy tails faggot
>>46947340Please answer this >>46947472
>>46947510>You're absolutely retarded and wrong about the bump limit shit./tg/ has a 300-post bumplimit and quests do fine.
>>46947282>>46947322Not that it's authoritative, but:mysql> select count(title) from archive where firstarchived>'2016-04-20' and tags like '%collective game%';+--------------+| count(title) |+--------------+| 105 |+--------------+1 row in set (0.18 sec)mysql> select count(title) from archive where firstarchived>'2016-04-20';+--------------+| count(title) |+--------------+| 125 |+--------------+1 row in set (0.17 sec)I wonder what else is in this image folder?
>>46947501Oh fuck off, MZ, you're running something more important.
>>46947519That can be arranged.
>>46947151>That's not to say that everything has to be G-rated; just that if as a quest author you're spending most of your time describing sex in graphic detail, then odds are a mod is going to warn you to "fade to black" instead.
If NSFW content is not allowed on /qst/, then would linking NSFW sections of questions on places outside of 4chan be alright?
>>46947494Wait, what the fuck is /f/ ?
I'm going to say something that other anons have said earlier in the thread, and that's that meta threads being illegal is a bad idea. I'm not a quester, but I see meta threads as being life the discussion of a ttrpg session. It's a chance for the players to talk back and for the GM to figure out what went well and what didn't. It would be unfortunate to leave out.
>>46947535can I get an autograph?and thank you for the archives.
>>46947312And in this case those people can, you know, not read those particular words that upset them. Like a grown-up.
>>46947546A board on the site, you dweeb. Check it out for yourself.
>>46947502>can we have one boardThat was /tg/ before Nazimod took a heaping shit on it. You could basically find anything you wanted.
>>46947546I don't know. Let's see.>>>/f/
>>46947472I loved RubyQuest and NanQuest back when they were running. Absolutely engrossing. And After the Brick was some of the best material I've seen on 4chan. Honorable mention for Huge Quest as well.
Dear mod:Could you explain some of the reasoning behind making it a sfw-only board? I'm interested in knowing the logic behind that decision.
>>46947532It's about him saying >There are maybe two who go beyond that, and that's largely because they don't announce their threads, they literally keep the thread alive so that the quest players know it's there. Which is just blatantly false and i question if he actually participates in threads not his own.
>>46947428They have a very busy IRC channel.
>>46947576>sites popular questsGO HOME QUESTER GIRL
>>46947576>hasn't actually followed quests in yearsNo wonder~
>dedicated quest boardYUSS BOI !!!WHERE DA /qst/ AT !!?
>>46947576>I better mention all the old Drawquests! That'll convince them I know what I'm talking about. Dude
>>46947546/f/ is the flashboard which has the same dropping system as proposed /qst/. Considering the content of a quest board including the same tagging system may be a good idea.You could even introduce a pseudo-Blue board function where the tags auto-filter NSFW quests but is toggle-able into a red board.
>>46947462Yes, but you do that anyways here on /tg/. They're just less prevalent here because they're quicker to get a ban since the anti-questers tried spamming random quests for a few months straight and failed to do anything but get banned, when they were even noticed.
>>46945911>only OP can post imagesNo. That means no fanart, or ways anons might alter a map or explain ideas.I think images should be moderated differently, perhaps. No image dumping or spamming of reaction images.
>>46947576And now, what's your involvement with quests? Tell us something that show you actually read and care about them today.
>>46947536Eh, debatable.>>46947526Later>>46947519I'd run one on the new questing board if it meant I could manage the team.
I think the existence of one or two meta threads should be permitted, they fulfil a purpose and I'm sure there'll be space for them on the catalog.
>>46947545Links should be absolutely fine afaik
People, you don't need explicit smut to write lewd.
>>46947358decu's patreon is also just about completely unrelated to his questswhen he makes a drawfag thread, he does it for free, which a janitor should find only inspiring
>>46947576You've gotta be kidding me.
>>46947457>And not allowing pastebins at allCan you quote the part where any use of pastebin was banned? Because it seem like you're reaching in an attempt to justify keeping your fifth-rate porn board-legal. It's entirely possible that I missed that since I was just skimming the OP to get to the shitposting.
>>46947610I'm creating a custom board just for them.
>>46945911Don't call it /qst/ QuestsCall it /gm/ Games & Quests1. Allows for a broader range of threads and users2. Gets rid of any negative stigma 4chan users have of quests3. a GM runs quests4. Less letters is better, 4 letter boards make me sick5. "what's up my fellow /gm/s..."
>>46946481I plead to you that Quests had a history before /tg/, and were custom-made to each board's culture. no matter what you do, it won't be /tg/ anymore.>Maybe when the new board smell has vanished we can revisit image replies for everyoneI feel a lot of consideration has been left out of this. Everyone will flood in, and big bump limits or 10 pages of threads means "quest content or /tg/ content" will be just a smidge of the whole board. Think back on /r9k/ and /asp/.
>>46947612Fluffy tails are more important than divegrass!
>>46947576>I loved RubyQuestSince you've read that quest, you can now become a good QM. :^)
>>46945911Honestly everything you have posted in this thread has confirmed that you idiots have no idea what you are doing or what people want, maybe actually ask before you do something this retarded next time.None of us care if you are not aiming for Erotica, you clearly do not participate in quests, why the fuck should we care what you want.
For fucks sake, let users post pics. Reaction images can be pruned if you must but don't you DARE FUCKING LIMIT THE FAN ART HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>>46947622That they didn't ask for
>>46947622Cool, now answer the question.
>>46947622That doesn't mean you know anything about quests created since 2010.
>>46947623Nobody cares but you.
>>46947576Tell me, do you enjoy newer stuff like fanfic quests or something like Papa-Ns stuff?
>>46947622IT IS NOT "GOOD" FOR THEM. You ARE PANDERING TO A VOCAL MINORITY. 8 years and everything has been fine
>>46947581That's how Vox does it - he doesn't have a twitter he and his players just keep the threads alive.
>>46947622Which nobody likes in the first place. It will kill questing as we know it. The only people who want this done are the idiots who can't bother making any content for themselves, or make threads so shit they slide off the board in 7 hours because no one responds to them.
>>46947622You are creating a concentration camp so you can kill questing with your hugbox bullshit.
>>46947622You're getting involved in a community you haven't touched in 6 years? LOL
>>46947623Why not /qt/?
>>46947579It should honestly follow /pol/s format. No porn, but everything else goes.
>>46947622I hope your kidneys fail.
>Please refrain from making meta-threads.Will that include things like the various site events, things like the 4CCup and the various balls that are hosted?
>>46947651Please calm down, anon.You are getting awfully worked up over a hungarian quilting website.
>>46947623+1, if this must go through>>46947622You say that like it's a good thing, when this whole thread is pointibg out how bad your ideas are.
>>46947622The American Government loved the Cherokee so much they had them move mandatorily. That was totally a good thing yeah?
>>46947622>>46947651yeah, the people complaining about quest threads aren't people who should be listened toif anything you should just post a sticky saying that "quests belong on /tg/ complaining about them will get you banned" and it'll stop
>>46947657Suggestion: Create a second thread with updated changes.
Since this is happening anyway regardless of my opinions, how about adding a unique color to OP posts whenever they post?
Quests belong on Anonkun or Spacebattles. Not on 4chan. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>46947622Which they really don't need. Quests are fine on /tg/ unless you're somehow claiming the maybe 20 total active quests represent a need for a board.
>>46947658okay, so one person does something. Don't equate that to the entire community doing it.He basically claimed that Big Quests don't exist. Which they do, and have for a very long time.
What about something that isn't really a quest, but is still roleplayed, like the Penal Legion threads? Would they be forced to go there, or...?
>>46947675>tfw nationality was mentionedI feel tingly inside
>>46945911>Slowing down /tg/ even furtherIt's already a slow board. Most threads don't fall off until 24 hours, minimum, sometimes longer.I could understand if there were traffic concerns, but there really isn't, and it's not like the game of Collaborative Make Shit Up isn't an old game to begin with.The idea of "not having images" or "forcing people to identify" are annoying sideshows that can easily fall one way or another - because frankly, a writer can be identified by his writing style.The only real reason to split boards is when there's enough interest - and traffic - to split it up into it's own thing. I don't think this is the case with questing.
>>46947622He asked for proof that you read and care about them, not that you hate them and want to kill them.
>>46947639They are asking, you dipshit.
>>46947674/tg/ shouldn't be having those threads either desu fampai
>>46947622have you literally ever read and been involved with a quest everbecause it sounds like the fucking answer is noA very vocal minority has been around since day 1. A vocal minority that actively creates botnets to downvote spam any and all quests in the archives.These are the fuckers you are listening and pandering to.
>>46947623I'm not opposed to letting regular forum games join in with the quests, it'd at least make the board less dead.I'd rather just not have such a board at all, though.
>>46947576Read Shadow Quest, then maybe pick up some of the popular quests that are curtently running like Homeless mutant quest or banished quest.
>>46947716They ask so that they can make it look like they're listening despite ignoring the big issues with this idea.Like it being a fucking pointless one.
Just imagine - if you too would have been vocally shitposting enough over a period of time then you too could have a mod who doesn't know what he's doing change the site for you. 4theplayers
>>46947718Pay your fuckinh Waifu tax
>>46947708>It's already a slow board. Most threads don't fall off until 24 hours, minimum, sometimes longer.>I could understand if there were traffic concerns, but there really isn't, and it's not like the game of Collaborative Make Shit Up isn't an old game to begin with.>The idea of "not having images" or "forcing people to identify" are annoying sideshows that can easily fall one way or another - because frankly, a writer can be identified by his writing style.>The only real reason to split boards is when there's enough interest - and traffic - to split it up into it's own thing. I don't think this is the case with questing.This
>>46947716"Asking"They are telling us what is happeningMost of the suggestions and responses in this thread have been ignored, they do not care what we want.
>>46947729>reading shadow quest>reading bani-shitposting quest
>>46947621It was mentioned that linking would be not possible, which means pastebin links would not be poissible. Sure, you can get around it, but why bother?
>>46947623The point I was trying to make here isn't just the name, what's in a name after all?The point I'm making is make the board wider for all forum type games that are played on 4chan, not just quests.Just quests has a hard time getting enough steam going for a full board. I know some of /tg/ have said "quests are overwhelming /tg/ for years" but they've really slowed down recently, there aren't that many of them. We don't want a dead board. Make the board more broad and allow games of any type so it board doesn't dry up.It'll be good for the quests too, keep them moving.
>>46947617Correct, /pol/ defaults to Yotsuba and not Yotsuba B and yet it has the "no NSFW images" rule. As long as you don't flood the board with big black cocks as a pseudo Australian, I don't see why you can't type out a description of a big black cock.
>>46947623>Games & Quests>/gm/>not /gq/do you even abbreviations?
>>46947576>NanQuestWhen did that run here? I can't remember it.
>>46947723Honestly you're thinking he's trying to pander to the anti-quest fags when it sounds more like he's trying to pander to the actual quest fags
This is how /tg/ dies.With a sticky.
>>46947782The actual quest fags don't want their own board.
>>46947772>bbcVery specific choice there, anon.
>>46947782And doing it horribly
>>469476236. The board is full of Risk threads and literally nothing else, because there's always at least a dozen Risk threads up across the entire site at any one time and they're always faster than any quest.
QUICK, WHICH QUESTS SHOULD I READ BEFORE THE GREAT PURGE?!
>>46947708So allow forum games of any type to flourish. Not just quests in the new board
>>46947787It is known.
>>46947769Yeah, it needs to be expanded to handle all forum games if we want the speed required to remove autosaged thread in hours rather than days.
>>46947749We got one suggestion through.That's already better than the old cuck.
>>46947772read the OP>Erotic roleplay is not permitted. Frequent explicit descriptions of sexual encounters by a quest author may result in mod intervention.
>SFWFuck you>Bump limit 1kOh great you're turning us into /tgchan, you know that DEAD site>User IDs>Only OP can post imagesHave you heard of the term "Image board">OP gets basic formattingOkay>Dice for allAlready have that.There is literally nothing good about any of your ideas.
You don't need a quest board. That's what TGchan is for.
>>46947622Oh fucking hell. Have you read any newer quests? Really? Please answer this!
>>46947772>I don't see why you can't type out a description of a big black cock.Well, the rules.
>>46947782The one they don't want and don't need. How many times do I have to say 8 years? It doesn't need to change, but it will for no reason.
>>46947786So... you read one quest that came from /tg/?
>>46947801Lamia Daughter Quest.Best quest of all time.
>>46947801All of them.
>>46947778Which is more pronounceable? Any the name isn't as important as allowing Forum games so the board doesn't experience dry spells like I was saying >>46947769
>>46947793they might as well name /pol/ to /bbc/ at this point.
>>46947782It's fucking patronizing is what it is. "Hey I think I have this great new idea for quest threads" sure, and there are some good ideas, but the move to a new board in the first place is fucking awful.It's like saying at least THIS concentration camp has hot showers. No one cares about that, everyone fucking cares about getting moved into a concentration camp where they will inevitably die.
>SFWFuck you>Bump limit 1kOh great you're turning us into tgchan, you know that DEAD site>User IDs>Only OP can post imagesHave you heard of the term "Image board">OP gets basic formattingOkay>Dice for allAlready have that.There is literally nothing good about any of your ideas.
>>46947786You realize you're literally making a tgchan board. That means like tgchan it will die, and likely take all the content you are trying to "produce" (read stifle) with it.
Why does this remind me of valve's "paid mods help the community" shtick?
>>46947617But what if I want to write or play something with smut? What if I want a quest where thinking with your dick is allowed rather than just asking to be punched in the gut?
>>46947801Hellborn is always consistently enjoying.NERV Bridge Simulator is a rollercoaster and the QM puts up great art assets/portraits.Those are the only two I read to be honest. Well, there's Capes of Rain City, but it's already starting to bore me, so I can't exactly recommend.
>>46947802I concede the point: If a board was created for "All kinds of image-board games, including questing" I think it may generate sufficient traffic as people create or re-invent the old games of chaining images together or playing around with that.But that would necessitate not having identities or anything else of that nature; in fact, it'd be ideal to just have it like every other board.
>>46947758Yeah, I'm still not seeing that part.
>>46945911Everything you've suggested sounds great.
>>46947622This is a bad idea.Your pushing a bad idea.Want to fix questing? Give /tg/ a better bump limit and so forth. Done. Questing has a home here, if a bit illajusted, and it pokes no holes in anyone. Leave it alone. It does not need another board. /tg/ is literally built on storytime there days, and quests are just another varient of it really.If you go ahead with this new board, its going to need the sound of crickets for how populated its going to be.
So, civ quests are done for?
This is gonna be fucking awful. Way to kill quest, Manager.Nah, but the ability to format text sounds neat fampai. Glad you decided to let regular users post images.
>>46947855Better move to Akun :^)
>>46947786>>46947829THIS IS HOW QUESTING DIES!WITH A STICKY!
>>469478554chan is a family website you sick fuck
>>46947786please don't make a /quest/ board/tg/ has enough space and enough traffic for quests to exist on it just finequest threads are by definition traditional games and despite what anti-questers say, there's an average of about 12 quest threads up at any given time in the entire catalogueit isn't worth a new board and it doesn't need special rules to cater to itin addition, as an /mlp/ user, where would its quests go? I'm gonna go ahead and bet they won't be allowed on /quest/
So I think it deserves to be outright said if ALL quests from all boards will be shuffled into this new questing board. Will there be /mlp/ quests next to /tg/ next to /a/ (if they still have any) and /aco/?
>>46947786As a long/time /tg/ user I feel that this change would not be needed.While a handful of people complain about there being a quest overload on /tg/, this is very much not the case.There's not nearly enough quest content to fill a whole board, especially with huge bump limits.This sound like you;re only listening to a vocal minority of haters, which isn't something you should be doing.Things are working fine as they are, there's no need to change this.It's like the people trying to get all toku off /m/.
>>46947800It's 1000 posts a thread and they'll be 150 threads like any board. /tg/ doesn't run off quests and more importantly, there aren't 150 quests being run right now, there are few and not all of them run constantly but at certain times.A quests only board is too slow and lifeless. Mods can keep any forum game from wiping the whole thing easily.
>>46947793>>46947820It's 2016, Australians should have a board for themselves to post BBC on.>>46947806Yes, and there's no reason why someone should be dissuaded from cockposting. Isn't the board supposed to be about quests? Maybe someone wants to write about an Australian's cock fetish. Posting images of cocks would still be banned obviously
>>46947873lol this guy barely reads old drawquests, do you think he's ever played a single civ?
>>46947849Maybe. On the other hand, it's worth a try.
>>46947855Then you go to Anonkun.
>>46947874post the metal pastebin you shekel grubbing fuck
>>46947842>>46947849This.The only major way quests can get readers in a separate board now is to advertise on twitter and other sites likes a madman.See: Spacebattles
>>46947836If you need to actually pronounce name of 4chan board, you should seriously reconsider where your life is going.
Mod, I get that you want to be able to say that you did Something Special for a large group of people and be able to brag about it in the future by pointing to it.Don't fucking do it and instead brag that when prompted to do something that would murder a community, you listened to them and stayed the executioner's hand.A containment board for quests will kill them all without a single fucking doubt.
>>46947872>Want to fix questing? Give /tg/ a better bump limit and so forth.Fuck that. The bump limit works fine for everything aside from quests. All the more reason for a seperate board.
>>46947880we are all family.
>>46947855You already couldn't do that on /tg/. I guess link your smut on pastebins?Also, you are now aware that the best smut written on this board was in an otherwise SFW quest as a one-time thing.
>>46947874post a pastebin that isnt a smug loli you cunt
>>46947864It would generate traffic and kill quests.Those silly little games that /b/, /pol/, and who knows who else play are way beyond quests in terms of poster amount and thread count. There probably could be a board just for them, but if it's the same one as quests, quests get muscled out by sheer weight of numbers. There have been less than 150 quests in a week. There have probably been 150 "forum games" just today.
>>46947874Run a thread you nigger.You better not put us off again because of this shit.
>>46945911Will we be able to do civ threads on the new board?
>>46947829>not Yuu Feel Me.gifONE FUCKING JOB
>>46947893This It doesn't matter though, the mod doesn't give a fuck. Hence why this is even happening
>>46947921but that's forbidden love
>>46947893Hey Marqod! Thanks for your 4CC work!
If you're making a new board can you enforce a rule that the main character can never be described as a "loli"? If you're making a new board for quests then I would know to know that I won't be sharing stories with pedophiles.
>>46947876>>46947900But anonkun is full of anonkun posters. They somehow manage to be even worse then /tg/ smutquesters.
>>46947874>supporting this cuckeryREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>46947842>>46947849>>46947907This fucking contradictory doublethink. /tg/ is so slow/quests are so slow that one or the other can't survive if a new board is made, yet somehow, /tg/ is fast enough that quests get "discovered" by new people or some bullshit. Yeah that makes so much sense.
/qst/ is utterly unnecessary. The whole "quest are drowning out other threads" argument doesn't work. There are NEVER more than 10% threads that are quests active. And I can't really call the other threads high quality either. They are usually System generals or some shitty "obtained elf waifu, what do?"The only people profiting from this are the dumb ass haters, who can't install a fucking filter app to sort out the quests.Otherwise you just create two slow as fuck boards.
>>46947887>please don't make a /quest/ boardThis is literally useless, this is already a done deal. Now, we just gotta hammer how shit some of their ideas are into their thick skulls.
>>46947945nah, its good. its natural
>>46947264>It'd also solve the samefag issue, I guessIt doesn't when everyone can get at least 2-3 IDs from multiple devices
Instead of making a new board, can we juat add formatting to tg? I don't know why some boards get cool toys amd some others don't.
> Making a quest board> Not following in the footsteps of /v/ and making a /tg/ general boardIt'd clear up half the fucking shit in the catalog, what the hell are you thinking
>>46947874It's wednesday, run the quest potatoman
>>46947953It's been said, the mod doesn't give a fuck though
>>46947917Its the only reason, thats worth listening to. And its not even a problem really. questing does not saturate this board.
>>46947922Yeah, I'm glad quests like TAQ and Orc Warlod have never run on /tg/, I would be disgusted if I knew people were openly posting porn on my SFW board.
>>46946481No offense but I think /tg/ is right on this one. Your fears about "trolls ruining a new board" is off base. /vg/ stabalized, /his/ stabalized, /aco/ stabalized, and as soon as people understood what they were about they left them alone. If you've ever been to /tg/ you'd know it's one of the most cohesive and dedicated board communities on 4chan, they are well behaved because the very nature of the hobby. This is the one board that freedom is rewarded by the TONS of new threads, OC, images and otherwise other great content. You don't need to shield a quest board because the very hobby itself already acts on that.Tl;Dr "Fresh board trolling" won't make up even 5% of the posts/threads. If you are making this for /tg/, you need to understand the demographic and listen to what we have to say. Or else it's going to be BEYOND dead on arrival.
>>46947813we could use a forum games and quests though with new quest abilities>>46947864identities stop samefagging I agree with the Manager there>>46947872/tg/ can find new life and purpose, get rid of the generals for one>>46947887games and quests board together then like >>46947623>>46947769
>>46947947ur in the wrong place buddy
>>46947952It's not about speed, it's about people seeing something they weren't explicitly interested in and stopping by. I've picked up dozens of RPGs to play with my group that I saw in a thread I wasn't looking for on /tg/.
Someone cap this fucking thread, holy shit
>>46947952But it does. It's a very happy medium right now.
>>46947991I'm aware of them, but come on. It's not even that bad.
>>46947952Except that's literally not what's being said.
>>46948004I'm not entirely sure it's not a troll at this point
>>46947970According to >>46947102 when that happens it's a pretty clear sign that someone is jumping IPs to do so
You ignored my question about why it's going to be sfw-only, manager.
>>46947951Soma doesn't have to worry because his players are already the biggest shitposters around. He probably won't even notice the change.
>>46945926Honestly the very fack that you are doing this no matter what we think shows that you don't care.Fuck you, please kill yourself.
>>46947947CUTE NOT PEDOLOLIS ARE FOR LOVING
>>46947994But posting loli threads is a bannable offense on /tg/, I would like to know that this will be carried into /qst/ and I am hoping it will be extended to text as well.
>>46947614yeah, and written text was supposed to always be considered SFW
>>46947947normie get >>/out/
>>46945911>>46945926Well, I thought I'd put in my two cents as a QM.Personally, I don't like the idea of a separate quest board in general. There's hardly the board saturation or numbers or activity to justify it. Quests are nowhere near as widespread as MLP or Pokemon, so how is setting them aside in their own board justified? Literally no QM I've known has ever clamored for this. There are plenty of other places to set up quests if the 4chan or /tg/ format doesn't suit you. Bottom line, I believe that the Quest "Problem" is pure utter fantasy. I don't see why having quests detracts from /tg/. In fact, I was first attracted to /tg/ due to quests and I have a lot of readers who have told me they have gotten interested in /tg/ or /tg/ related topics solely because of participating in my quests. Removing quests from /tg/ is basically going to be a repeat of Nazimod, draining /tg/ to creative content and content creators. Fuck, the board STILL hasn't recovered from Nazimod (and probably never will).Another concern I have is a bit more personal to me, but applies to all other current QMs. How are you going to handle archiving for currently running quests? Almost all QMs including me rely on suptg for archiving past threads, and even though I've seen offers from LL to accommodate /qst/, I'm still not sure how that will affect my two currently running quests. I really do not want to have to split the archives of my quests across two separate sites, or worse, being unable to archive my threads at all. Third, if the /qst/ is a done deal and it gets implemented anyways, here's my input on the proposed rules:(cont)
>>46948020probably because the base demographic /tg/ is a safe board
>>46948020He has ignored a lot of questions.Starting to think he has a past in Blizzard's PR section, because he sucks at selling his point too.
>>46948001>quests are better off on a tangentially related board because people looking for actual traditional games might stumble upon them, than they would be on a board dedicated to themThis is backwards as fuck. Things don't thrive in margins.
Why no generals? Your going to have people new to the site wondering about stating their own quests. You need someplace for them to talk about it.
>>46948020They already answered: they just don't want to. Why? Because they don't want to.And honestly, when you see Akun, I understand them.
>>46947950They're only worse in the sense that they are /tg/ smutquesters without any of the worthwhile /tg/ players around.
>>46948056Then can they please say so. PLEASE.
>>46947874stop being a faggot soma and start running your shitty ass quest so that I can read that damned metal GM
>>46948032lolwutNo it ain't. Posting porn is bannable. But shit we've had a Loli Fight Club quest. MGNQ is all lolis and is the oldest still running quest. Lolis have been around forever and are sticking around.
>>46948001This. Unless people are actively lookign for quests, and then finding one they like, there will be no new blood on a quest-only board.
>>46947992>/vg/ stabalizedAs a /vg/ user, that boards tends towards shitposting like the universe tends towards entropy.I never thought a quest board was a good idea, but if the mods insist on it I'd at least be willing to give it a try. Some of the ideas are good, some are pretty horrible, but none of my opinions on specific matters are any different from what everyone else has already said.
>>46948054They hate moderating quest generals. It's a shitload of work for very little gain.
>>46947993>New life and purpose>by removing some of the best loved content>the old ways were best, prepare the sacrificial boardgame
>>46947576>>46947622You may need to take more samples on /tg/ before going through with this
>>46948043>Erotic roleplay is not permitted. Frequent explicit descriptions of sexual encounters by a quest author may result in mod intervention.Then why create a new board at all if you're just going to enforce the same /tg/ blueboard rules?>We're aiming for adventure, exploration, suspense, mystery, etc, and not erotica. So... basically what we're already doing in /tg/?>Only OP can post imagesNow, I'm aware that you're already reconsidering this due to the already posted feedback, but this rule alone communicates to me that you don't quite understand the appeal of questing or have never participated in one yourself. Quests can live or die on audience participation, and it's really fun and gratifying to see readers freak out over surprise developments or post their own OC of the quest. My quests have gotten TONS of fanwork posted spontaneously by anonymous drawfags. Again, I can see that you've reconsidered your position, but it still makes me uneasy to know that /qst/ is being formed and run by people who have missed the point this badly. To sum it up, I don't agree with the idea of /qst/ at all and find its existence absolutely unnecessary.
>>46948051>tangentially relatedProvably not the case.
>>46948069See the OP.
>>46948046So why can't I open a single thread without someone inserting his fetish into it?
>>46947622Nobody wants a new board except for a vocal minority.There is not enough quest traffic on /tg/ to justify it.You're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.Having some new features for OPs like post formatting would be nice but it's not nearly worth the trouble of splitting off quests into another board.>>46948043Full agreement.
>>46948080>>the old ways were best, prepare the sacrificial boardgame>not sacrificing a newborn to baal with youf fellow fa/tg/uys
>>46948079If it's such a pain, why are they giving quests their own board? It's pretty damn clear it's only going to be a much bigger pain.
>you can have this board to unleash your creativity>but you gotta respect these retarded rules>this is a great idea, you've wanted this anyway, right
>>46948020The faggot is ignoring everyones questions, and has dropped out since the thread didn't go aswell as they thought.
>>46948072Anon. Anon pls.I'm shitposting about how threads talking about lolis get deleted on /tg/ because they get mass reported despite not having any pornographic content in them.Try it yourself, make something about discussing loli characters on traditional games or anything of the sort and I guarantee your thread will be deleted in under an hour and you'll probably be banned.
>>46948086>it still makes me uneasy to know that /qst/ is being formed and run by people who have missed the point this badly.Well put
>>46948043>>46948086Thanks Merc, I'm afraid it won't matter, but thank you for trying.
>>46945926>We're aiming for adventure, exploration, suspense, mystery, etcWill you ban my quest if it's not about that?
>>46947922>You already couldn't do that on /tg/.Depends on which quest and what fetishes it involves, but still, the point is that is shouldn't be about working around dumb, erratically enforced rules, it's about a new board getting new rules that don't need to mirror /tg/'s for no good reason.>I guess link your smut on pastebins?Links not being allowed implies such a practice would be frowned upon, and that doesn't solve the whole "nature of the quest" issue.>Also, you are now aware that the best smut written on this board was in an otherwise SFW quest as a one-time thing.I would disagree, but that's a matter of opinion.
>>46948091because they are trying to get a rise out of you. Ignore them
>>46947993>games and quests board together thenthat doesn't address any of the problems I had/tg/ has dice on it for a goddamn reason and quest threads and game threads are it/tg/ IS the quest board and quests take up 10% at any given time AT MOST in the past 2 years./quest/ is entirely unnecessary and, again, what will happen to the many quests on /mlp/ who in all likelihood won't be allowed on /quest/?>>46945911please please don't makek a /qst/
>>46947893>It's like the people trying to get all toku off /m/.you say that like they won't be announcing /toku/ next weekI can't fucking wait for a board featuring four consecutive autosaging /krg/s!
>>46945911>we're finally creating a quest boardWhy?While at it, why not get rid of /tg/ completely?
>>46945911It seems that a general concern is that just quests won't be able to fill an entire board, I have two suggestions>make it quest/general>allow other quest like threads, like civ >threads and other stuff like that
>>46948080the new board will also have new life to it tooquests on /tg/ were dying out, getting staleI still hope the name is changed to /gm/ just because I personally think it's better than /qst/ which sounds like what the dog whisperer says when he's squeezing dog necks.
>>46947622Who wanted this?
>>46946356Just come to /trash/, there's already like three erp threads at any given time and you won't get your balls busted over if it should be in aco or d
>>46948104Well I'm not the Manager so I can't say for sure, but from the looks of things it's one of two reasons:1) They've become disillusioned with the current style of /tg/ quests and want to return to the old drawquest style.2) They want to take quests off /tg/ so the front page is finally just stuff they care about, and banning it would cause a riot so new board.
>>46948020SFW just means not all the time ERP, sexy things are still allowed but ERP is /soc/
>>46948121>Links not being allowedWhere did he say that?
>>46947947Seconded. I don't want creepy people in my quests. Maybe ban any OP that uses a sexualized image.
>>46945911>we're finally creating a quest board>finally This implies that anyone wants this.
>>46947622That has nothing to do with questing
>>46948086>>46948043>>46945911As another QM I support this completely. We do not need another board, it will die. If you want to add formatting or something I'd take it but I'd much rather be on /tg/ with no formatting than exiled to some random new board with formatting.
this is a bad plan
>>46948123>ignore them and the problem will go away!Smutfag detected. No, they wait until a second smutfag shows up and then they start to reply to each other with horribly written greentext stories about their waifus.
>>46948153>They've become disillusioned with the current style of /tg/ quests and want to return to the old drawquest style.Then they should make that sort of content themselves.
>>46947951>Soma>not shitpostingPick neither.
BRING SNACKS BACK
>>46948101a quests and games board would bring new life to quests too though.I think /tg/ would stabilize soon too
>>46948019>copy/paste ID>one post for vote in the entire thread for the waifu vote>copy/paste ID>multiple posts with discussion and votesIt makes it really easy to single out the shills, shitposters, and trolls desu senpai. Coupled with the thread IP count, it makes it very hard to truly sockpuppet when everyone in the thread can monitor IP count and then copy/paste the new ID to see total posts. Bernouts found out the hard way in the Trump General.
>>46948179Best joke in the entire thread
>>46948158>>46947947Also ban cishet white males, those shitlords ruin everything.
>>46948086I'll put my two cents behind Merc and agree with him. This is a hell of a way to try and separate questing from /tg/, which just won't work.I'm on board with a Quest board, it's just we don't NEED one right now or can even support one. We'd have to import a shitload of people from other boards and off-site to keep the And with the restrictive rule of keeping it safe for work, there's not much incentive to even run on it.
>>46945911Im for the new board...But then... /v/ and /vg/ comes to mind and im starting to have doubts if this will end well.
Someone needs to archive this on suptg with proper tags and whatnot before Mods decide to delete this thread in shame.
>>46948178no, not a smutfag.
>>46946356no, ERP is /soc/ or /trash/. /aco/ is pictures
>>46948101I would legitimately like some numbers on the board population's opinion for or against quests, if the mods have that level of information beyond IP addresses etc. Both sides think (and have thought) theirs is the majority, but the thing is this decision feels like it should have been made five years ago or not at all.What was the process for making this decision? Did a new member come onto the administrative team and want to make some changes? Was it revisiting an old, previously tabled matter in light of the site changing over the years?Full disclosure, I run a quest myself. And while I'm not a fan of this change, as long as LL keeps providing his incredibly helpful archival on the new board, there's really not much to do but abide by the rules and wait to see if the new board survives.
Was killing quests part of your plan?
>>46947622As I've said before, literally no QM I know has ever asked for this. The only people who have proposed this are people who don't like quests in general or people who have never actually run one.
>>46945911I support making image replies optional during thread creation. An outright ban is too high a price to pay in terms of OC contributions.
>>46948072>MGNQ is all lolisYou've never read any of MGNQ, have you?
>>46948194It's a lot harder in a quest thread, where people will come out of lurking just to post in a vote they really care about.
>>46947708I think this guy has got the right idea, quests are a medium sized (at best) part of an already slow board. On top of that you're planning to put more restrictions on quests than already exist on /tg/.I like the idea of /qst/ but I feel like it's going to be stillborn.>>46946944Also, LL and sup/tg/ are probably the single most important thing for a quest boards survival. You need to be able to catch up on a quests and I don't think putting that all on the QMs is a good idea. So do you guys have some plan for archiving outside of hoping LL keeps being able to render his excellent service?
WHAT IF the OP had the ability to set if people can post pictures in his thread? That way if an OP wants a goofy funposting quest he can make one but serious quests can block shenanigans.
>>46947622>I know what they wantYou clearly don't.This is really bad idea. Just add the new formatting to quest threads here on /tg/ or something or leave it as is.
The biggest issue I have with this is, that /tg/ is, in its nature, a high quality discourse board. This is why there is a high standard for the roleplay that occurs on it, encouraging writefags to be really competent, encouraging additional stuff like drawfagging from the side of the writer, encouraging the creator to really work for his attention. A quest board will simply have worse quests than /tg/ woud, because you will be unable to apply /tg/ culture on it.This could go very well, as in the case of /jp/, where the board becomes so extremist in its secularity that it actually adds quality to it. It is a possible thing to happen, since the quest, as a roleplaying medium, can only be properly executed on 4chan, and you can build a culture around it. I'm just very scared that without /tg/'s watchful eye, the board will have seventy five Homestuck generals in it.Some propositions:1) As everyone has said, keep images for everyone.2) Keep Dice. This will also keep it feeling /tg/. You might want to add advanced rolling options for OP (see what roll20 lets you do, for example).3) The formatting options should adhere to the format of a quest. For example, it would be cool to add an out of character posting option under the line, because writing in italics OOC is a lot dumber looking than it sounds like. A lot of QMs use spoilers for this, but surely a better option could be made.4) Consider just adding a polling option, and making it non-mandatory, since it's less transparent than post-voting and takes bumps away.5) Consider tools for maps, or pictures editable on the fly, since lots of QMs use them already.6) Consider making it /rp/ instead, to encompass all roleplaying. This will make it feel more like a child board of /tg/, and tie it more closely to tabletop culture, which is good. If so, allow OP to lock the thread for everyone but a specific IP cast of players, which would make it possible to run any /tg/ game on an imageboard with people watching.
>>46948139We are in a slow period, because frankly, questing reaches peak during summer months when no one has college or uni. Its going through the normal breathing pattern.If quests were getting stale, then why is a /tg/ clone with less users, less content and less input going to be better? Would you just like to make a quest gravestone now? This idea is retarded.
>>46948206*to keep the various Quests filled with a healthy amount of players.I'm an idiot. But seriously, this is a bad idea.
>>46945911Literally every QM that's posted has said this is a bad implementation/idea.That should tell you something.
>>46948086I must agree with Merc here. He does make good points about this case.
>>46948229Oppai lolis are still lolis, anon.
So...why does this need to happen when it's such a small part of the board?
>>46946944Just want to chime in with others saying I'd absolutely throw some money at you to expand operations to add the new board to suptg's archive coverage, if it comes to that. You do an invaluable service to the board and you've done it for years.
>>46948118Get some lasers, wizards or swords in there, mod leaks showed that was their criteria for /tg/ related quests, and they don't seem to have changed.
I guess there's some things I like and some I don'tI like having userIDs A LOT and it's cool to have tools like formatting. I'd be fine with a bump limit of 500, but it can be 1000 as long as the OP can shut the thread down.I'm not so sure about the need to be SFW, but I'm personally fine with it either way.Good that you changed your mind - it's an imageboard, people should be able to post images.I'm not so sure we need a new board in the first place, is /tg/ having traffic problems? I think it's quite fine as it is in that regard.The only thing that's a dilemma to me is the question with IDs. For quests I am absolutely in favor, but some may feel they would be a negative in other situations(can't think of any right now desu).I think the best solution would be to give an OP options in regards to IDs and images.
>>46947622>>46947683Perhaps if this had been implemented a couple years ago, or even longer ago, when the board felt more crowded, this would be a non-issue.As it is, quests have carved out a comfortable niche on /tg/, and like any other content on the board, you're going to get some twat complaining, no matter what. "There's too much 40k, nobody needs a pathfinder general, I don't like this, it shouldn't be on MY board" et cetera.It seems to me like this is an overly ambitious solution for a non-issue.
I see we've reached the stage of a 'discussion' where the longer arguments start rolling in and the person with the idiot idea fucks off completely to do it anyway
>>46948153Right now get the changes to the board that make it work.Get the board expanded to include CYOAs and forum games, get more life into the board. It can be a great thing with new users than enjoy the games and quests. Focus on the potential and get it shaped to be the best possible
>>46948208Oh God, please don't. I have to clean enough shitpost archiving as it is.
>>46945911What's with this safe for work bullshit? Does written smut trigger you that much?
>>46948259What's the next step of your master plan?
I'm kind of interested to see the direction /qst/ will go. I find it fun to adapt to new boards, and seeing how they'll evolve and the culture they'll develop. A lot of people are assuming the worst but what's wrong with a little optimism?
>>46948273Because some people have consistently complained about it for almost a decade and the feedback has finally piled up enough that they can't ignore it.Or someone finally found that note that fell under their desk 6 years ago and blindly charged forward with the plan.
>>46948269Most characters are physically in their teens. I can only think of two side characters who are younger-looking than that, and one of them might just be a midget.
>>46946194THIS.This entire idea is stupid.
>>46948193>a quests and games board would bring new life to quests too though.>I think /tg/ would stabilize soon tooSorry, but in this case I'm going to trust the opinions of the people here that actually run the quests.Not only can I not see a reason for creating a new board, but they consider it a bad idea for good reasons.The the OP thought even for an instant that not allowing images to be posted by anyone but the QM was a good idea prevents me from trusting their judgement here.
>>46948300Crashing this boardWith no survivors!
>>46948290As expected of the mods.
>>46948269No anon, almost all the characters of that quest are explicitly stated to be aged up to be 18+. There's like one loli in the whole thing.
>>46948043>Quests are nowhere near as widespread as MLP or PokemonI had missed the fact /tg/, which is amalgam of every other board's quests, may have to compete with entire communities from other boards bring their own quests, and now maybe even all the forum games or whatever./tg/ will lose hard to other less pruned communities, here.
>>46945911>>46945926This is not a good idea. Moot warned against further splintering the community by adding unnecessary boards.It will divide an already slow board and further fracture the community./tg/ has gnerally been about role playing. Creating a second board is not condusive to participation and will not create good outcomes.This is even before considering some of the rules, like no erotic content.
>>46948225What's wrong with a new place that you're the focus, that give you more to work with? It'll bring new life to quests
>>46948233But then if there's a sudden influx of new IDs, the QM can do a final destination vote. If they were just lurking, then the second vote will have the same ones, but if its another entirely new batch, then its definitely samefagging.
>>46948320Because we're following the logical progression of things. It's them being reactionary to a vocal and spiteful minority. Think of every forced migration in history. That's this.
If you do actually care about quests, you'll listen to the QMs and can this shit.
Are the dice rolls going to be less shitty?
>>46948298Yes. You shouldn't marginalize the sensitive, shitlord.
>>46948298They haven't any idea what smut is anyways. They banned one quest for being smut when there wasn't a single piece of smut in the entire thing.
>a board for quests>L-LEWD STUFF IS BAD YOU CAN'T DO IT>Here have a bunch of features nobody cares about>There are barely any quests compared to the total number of threads on /tg/? Who cares about those factsAnd lo, the mods and Hiro-chan showed once again that they have no idea what they're doing.Is it time for another 4chan clone to pop up, or is one of the existing ones suddenly going to start getting more traffic?
Mod has run off to whine to Mommy, someone please cap this shit so we can use this as an example for the future
>>46948355Sorry LL, but this thread has to be archived for generations to come.
>>46947622I'll take "things we never asked for or wanted" for $800 Alex
won't this be capped on 4plebs?
>>46947269You have no idea of how dark the depths of pulp's awfulness are.
>>46948246That's why I'm trying to fight for expanding the new board to be more than just quests but games too. It'll liven up the new board and provide new users.The board will be a better place for quests too.
>>46948390>Is it time for another 4chan clone to pop up, or is one of the existing ones suddenly going to start getting more traffic?You can fuck off if you want.
>>46945911Terible idea, absurd restrictions, new "features" are pointless and overall will gut /tg/'s traffic.
>>46948320>A lot of people are assuming the worst but what's wrong with a little optimism?A lot of people aren't just assuming the worst, they have experience and good arguments to back it up.>>46948361This. Splintering a community is always a terrible idea unless it is over-capacity. /tg/ is nowhere near that.>>46948290Ugh.
>>46948375If they're really listening to the vocal minority why are they doing this >>46946657 >>>46947691
>text can be NSFW I like this meme.
>>46948390>>46948390Cripplechan is that way.
>>46948408And Fireden, and whatever other automatic archives do /tg/.And it's on suptg too.
>>46945911Please note the 90% of people who don't want a new board or think it's questionable at best. QM's don't want it. Players don't want it. Only the loud minority who has always been here wants a different board.
Splitting boards is not a good idea when they are as niche as /tg/.
>>46945911>SFWI'd say limit that to SFW encouraged, but with spoiler enforcement. NSFW quests and nsfw fanart keep the medium alive through the power of sexual deviancy, a nigh limitless resource on the net
Maybe try it out but don't outright ban quest threads on /tg/ as soon as the board opens, to see how it works.
I came here to post Alabama and call the mods fags!
>>46946944>separate archive for /qst/I think that'd be a bad idea, for quests that migrate from /tg/ to /qst/ having to be archived in two places.
>>46948355This mod's stupidity has to be memorialized. Just like Lolimod from years back and Nipplemod from last year. Mod stupidity must be archived for posterity.
>>46948424Because it's their job to kill blatant shitposting?
>>46948412>The board will be a better place for quests too.I really doubt it. You know how /asp/ also has wrestling, and the wrestling part was/is literally drowing out the rest of it? Well that's not exactly unique or special.
>>46948433WE DID IT REDDIT
>>46948426I've personally always liked the curves that the letter S has. Mmm, just look at that.
>>46948368New life to current quests. How will you know what new quests are being created if you don't know the board even exists. /tg/ is currently the only board that knows about this. Unless someone is goin gto inform the other boards, they aren't even involved in this discussion, judging by the number of posters alone. There isn't new life when the baby is stillborn.
>>46948412The best place for quests it the place with the most (quality) participants. That is here.Fancy formatting features and everything are all secondary./tg/ is too small to split up.
>>46948424I believe the board is a misguided attempt to support questers instead of the anti-quest minority, but terribly executed with absurd rules.
>>46948412you sound like you annoy people with positivity."Oh my god, your dog has cancer!""Well, at least the radiotheropy will be a blast!"
As a small time QM, I feel that this move to create a new board is a misguided attempt at trying to fix what isn't broken.
>>46948442/tg/ is not a niche board, it's pretty generalized. Traditional Gaming has a large amount of content for discussion already, Quests can fuck off.
>>46948200But it's true.Whiners are always going to whine. "Why can't you make threads that interest me?""Why isn't /tg/ pandering to my interests?""Why is /tg/ full of stuff I hate?"Because you fucks are so fucking lazy that you couldn't post an interesting thread to save your lives.
>>46948472I am more of a B guy, but I see your point>>46948463quality content
>>46945911Since you seem to be reasonable and to actually listen to the opinions of the people here, let me implore you to reconsider making a new board for quests, if that's still possible. You just need to read this thread to see this idea will bring far more problems than it will do good, and in the worst case kill both /tg/ and the new quest board.
>>46948368Have you ever considered the thought that QMs like me actually enjoy running quests in /tg/ specifically? I know I can find people with similar tastes and likes to mine here. That's not something I'll get in a separate board.
>>46948424Because Manager wants anons to suck him off, and thinks that all he need do to get that is actually do the barest amount of his job.
>>46948328The people here that run quests are just trying to protect their own interests and are afraid of change.>>46948473You think they wont advertise the new board?
>>46948086I agree with everything Merc said here.
>>46948384what can be improved?
>>46947622>Tell us something that show you actually read and care about them today>I'm creating a custom board just for them.>I love my kitten>I'm taking it behind the shed and shooting it :)
>>46948482/tg/ isn't the best place for quest because of some intangible superiority the board exhibits or anythingit's the best plays for quests because that's literally what the board is forif it wasn't why can we roll dice?what's the point of that feature at all if it wasn't built with quests in mind?
>>46945911Holy hell, have you ever actually BEEN in a quest thread?
>>46948269>>46948324There are two characters that are not of age, and one of them is permanently stuck in a biker suit. More importantly, all the characters are mentally adult.I mean, the entire point of MGNQ is that it's about magical girls that got too old for this shit but have to do X before retirement.
>>46945926>>46945911Instead of making it flat "Only OP can post images" Let OP pick. Many quests require player generated content like the evolution games.Just put a little check box OP can click to limit posting of pictures to him.
>>46946481Why did you even post this if you didn't want constructive criticism. It sounds like you just glanced over everyone's opinions and went "You know, nah I think I'm going to go with my gut." I also don't think you know how quests work.
>>46948509>and in the worst case kill both /tg/ and the new quest board.Fuck off questfag, /tg/ was here before quests became as popular as they are now and /tg/ will be here after the questfags have all hung themselves.
>>46948519You think people pay attention to the 4chan news posts?
>>46948426[trigger warning: capital letters]>NSFWanon you need to be aware of other posters, those capitals are aggressive and potentially triggering so put a trigger warning on posts like that in the future, okay?
>>46948420>overall will gut /tg/'s traffic.While the rest is true, and /qst/ might die, this will have zero impact on /tg/ because the people who read quests will still drop by /tg/. The opposite isn't true because no one will know what's being run. QTG on /tg/ would mitigate that, if it wasn't banned.
>>46946852sounds pretty neat
Plot twist: this entire thread was just /tg/ - the quest.
There aren't enough quests to sustain a full board and a decent number will have to be snipped to fit with the new regulations.Stop thinking with the spacebattles school of questing. Each of the questing websites has a way of doing things. The differences define them.Trying to make 4chan quests more like Spacebattles with the asinine ruleset and ridiculous board split misses the point of it completely.
>>46948426I hate this meme.
>>46948361Moot is dead now, anon. He has no power anymore.
>>46945911>Safe for work>Only OP can post imagesRedundant. With pretty much no images, it can't be NSFW.
>>46948546It was here for less than a year and go fuck yourself.
>>46948449I want to bam the bamalam
>>46948557>no one voted to masturbate0/10
>>46948516Because the people on /tg/ interested in quests surely won't be able to complete the monumental task of looking at another board.
>>46945911So speaking as a guy who does frequent fanart for quests... I really don't like that only the OP can post images rule.and as a guy who is contemplating starting a quest, there is a part of me worried about the switch over. Archiving being the big one. SupTg is used to archive everything and I don't know how readily it would be able to handle it. Plus little things like how instant would people have to take their stuff over to a new board? How do you get exposure on a board that is 100% quest? And what else can the quest board be used for?Like can you discuss Quests in "quest generals" What about civs and worldbuilding?
>>46946319Literally cannot stop laughing.You do not understand, the quest format was essentially born on 4chan. It can be done on forums, but people don't make forums for quests. The only sites that are made for quests are a few imageboards and anonkun.com, a pseudo imageboard that let's people freely post images in the chat and is often in total chaos. People are supposed to get rowdy, it doesn't work otherwise. Fuck off before you ruin shit for everyone
>>46948438>minorityNone of you newfags remember /q/How it constantly droned on and on for a quest board. How a vast majority of /tg/ wanted it then. How many of those people were shoved off /tg/ 3 years ago when quests were at the peak. Those people would be able to come back
Not sure if I mentioned this already, but I think features like basic text formatting fo rthe OP, and some drawing/charting thing should be added to /tg/ instead of this new board.>>46948519>The people here that run quests are just trying to protect their own interests and are afraid of change.Uh yes, in an environment about QUESTING it's really fucking important that quest runners protect the environment that allows their quests to flourish.
>>46948573>I really don't like that only the OP can post images Search the guy's other posts, that has been adressed.
>>46948552/qtg/ is a cesspool, and this will just create a flood of "Take it to the quest board, faggots" if it tries to rear its objectively ugly head on /tg/.
>>46948462Mods would watch over the new board. Keep it from getting overrun.>>46948482the new board would bring new users, expand the userbase greatly
>>46947501Oh shit, we aren't losing any players are we?
>>46948558Frankly i prefer the current /tg/ quest format. It flows a hell of allot better than others ive seen.Its not perfect, but its still good.
THE "ONLY OP CAN POST IMAGES" RULE HAS ALREADY BEEN RESCINDEDSTOP TALKING ABOUT ITTHERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER REASONS WHY THIS PROPOSED SPLIT IS A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE IDEA
>>46946319>which completely ruin any kind of atmosphere that the quest author is trying to cultivatet. retard who has never been a QM or even participated in a quest before
>>46946319Your reasoning is a joke.Kindly drop this whole idea and die in a fire before you embarass yourself further.
So, if I start my quest here, do I get banned?
>>46948516a separate board would have /tg/ tastes AND more users
>>46948576It droned on with less than ten posters in favor for almost all of those threads.They're very dedicated, but it only takes one to make a bunch of threads.
>>46948564Text is NSFW anon, has been for over a year now.
>>46948576>lies and misinformation the post
>>46948609Clearly this new board needs to have editable posts.
>>46948361The problem is that all these quests, games, CYOA threads are overpowering the rest of the board. Many of us have zero interest in them and as such its already splinting the community and just causing friction.I know there have been nights I got annoyed that there were no interesting threads to post in and half of the whole boards were some quest or other.
>>46948616Go ahead and start oneCan I recommend 'Shitty decisions Mod life?'