>Thread died out, apparently! Waking up in the morning, you groaned. There were many, many things you liked waking up to in the morning, and today had none of them.No coffee. No booze.No hot women.No good news.Instead, you had a prepubescent girl sleeping in a ball on your chest, a searing backache, numb hands, and the dull feeling in your mouth that told you you desperately needed fluids. “Joan…” you muttered, scrabling around on your nightstand for a Nalgene. “Joan, get up…”“Non.” The sleeping girl replied. “Joan. Get up.” You said, trying to unscrew the canteen one-handed. “I need a drink.”“Non.”Drinking very carefully, you lifted her off your chest and sit her on the bed. Sitting up, you grumbled quietly as you looked for your pants. After acquiring said pants, you stretched out, trying to work the kinks out. Halfway through this, you felt a small pair of arms around your back, pulling you down to the bed.“Non.”You had to roll your eyes now, walking out of your bedroom. Joan flopped behind you, muttering at you. “Non. Non. Non. Non. Non.” It was quite the skill to ignore her. Going to the galley, you looked at the duty cook and blinked.“Sorry sir, no coffee yet.”
“Sorry sir, no coffee yet.”Goddamnit. Looks like breakfast was going to be…. Green beans and a chunk of… fish? You were fairly sure that was fish. Going to the table, you ate it, groaning. On today’s to-do list, there were a LOT of things. Firstus was finding where you were so you could start looking around for either a major shipping lane to loot ships from or a fairly small island or atoll to dump people on. Secondus was talking to Captain Jasper and Carmine about things, along with setting up the beginnings of a machinery shop on the Carolina for tools and weapons. Thirds was Joan. Fourth was getting the crew of the Arroschere rotated so there were some Apprentice sailors and warriors onboard, and senior crew on the Carolina to teach them things. Oh joy.>Find where you are>Talk to Jasper/Carmine>Joan>Crew Rotation>Other (write-in)
Oh, and to get this out of the way early,DAMN YOU PLANEFAG
>>46507711>Find where you areAll else is a secondary objective, we NEED ships and/or an island to not only deal with our current population boost but to really be effective.
>>46507692>>Find where you areGlad to see you again, Wolf. All our ships need a goal and a heading first.
Pastebin is now up to date! Mostly!
In the mood to book it tonight, so votes called at 7:45 EST
>>46507711>>Find where you are
Les fuckit. WRITING
>Find where you areAs you get slowly piped onto the Carolina, you wince at the smell. The ship must be flooded with refugees that had been picked up, and you could smell the wash of humanity. From the foredeck, you saw spurts of water coming off the side, making you look at the waste carefully. As you reached the top, you looked at the ensign there, distinguished by his youth and hat.“Kid,” you ask, frowning. “what the hell is up with the bow?”“That’s the wash station, commodore. Some of the guys, well, made a sort of a wash station from a container full of bathtubs. There’s also a bunch of water-trough heads there, too…”You nodded distractedly. “Good on them, then. Take me up to the Acting Captain, please.”“Yes Sir!”*Ten minutes later you were on the bridge, looking Carmine in the eyes and wishing to God she didn’t have two inches on you, easy. In all seriousness, she was an Amazon! Shaking your head to clear out your thoughts, you got ready to talk to her.“Acting Captain Carmina.”“Commodore Asieta.”>Fellowship Check: PASS>Command Check: PASS“Thank you for coming aboard, Commodore. We’ve had a little trouble with disease lately, but overall the Carolina is still fit for duty.”“Good to hear. I believe earlier you mentioned you had a fogy idea of where we were?”At this, Carmine blushed almost imperceptibly behind her tan. “Yes. We found out our latitude, and cross-checked a map. Right now, our closest landfall is a small island near San Cristobal. We’re currently in the Solomon Islands based on this information.”
You scrunched up your eyebrows. “And how did you figure out the island was there?”“We spotted the ship after it ran aground. The island isn’t huge, and we think that we could use the wrecked boat as a supply depot and base while we build a fort there.”On one hand, you agreed with this. You needed a settlement for agriculture, and on the atlas that had been found with the ship said island was referred to as Uki Ni Massa Island, with a population of about twelve hundred. You knew from lifeboat clearing that the flu symptoms before the zombiesm kicked in usually killed one in six, and competitive feeding when there was no available food source meant that zombie populations generally had a definite half-life.The problem was that you were looking at thick jungle, not some nobody no-where flatland. There would be abundant food, and abundant predators. Your people would be conducting slash-and-burn farming, flailing at the jungle while praying they could grow enough food. They would be dead weight on your logistics, a yoke that burdens until they were self-sufficient. Once that point was reached, they would still tear at your resources, consuming everything they could to keep growing. >Yes shore colony on Uki Ni Massa (pre-Apocolypse pop 1,200)>No shore colony on Uki Ni Massa QM Warning: A ship is dangerously overpopulated! Reduce population or improve habatabiliy to prevent sickness and moral loss!
>>46509588>>Yes shore colony on Uki Ni Massa (pre-Apocolypse pop 1,200)
>>46509588>Yes shore colony on Uki Ni Massa (pre-Apocolypse pop 1,200)We need materials for making rigging, or getting something to use as fuel for the ships. Current model of life is unsustainable.
>>46509669Alright, you lost me at "fuel for ships". These are modern ships, which means diesel engines. Therefore, you're talking biofuel production, and you're going to need to explain some of it to me.
>>46509588>Yes shore colony on Uki Ni Massa (pre-Apocolypse pop 1,200)Maybe find an islet to put the settlers 1st?
>>46509759Uki Ni Massa is the comfertable islet, unfortunately. Once you're done there, you have a hold on the Solomon Islands, and can probably expand to the Bismarck Archipelago.
>>46509753I will admit I'm no expert at this subject either. From what I'm able to gather, you need a sugar-rich crop to churn with lye and methanol in some sort of process. Fuck, there's gotta be one person in a thousand who understands chemistry.
>>46509877Alternatively we could alter our engines to work on wood gas, or outright replace them with steam engines.
>>46509877The catch isn't understanding chemistry, though. It's finding someone who can chemistry in a tube showing a guy who can chemistry a bucket who can chemistry a bathtub who can chemistry a vat. Which isn't much until you look at the support structure, at which point OH SHIT.>>46509935The problem is that converting wood gas only works well with gasoline-fired engines, and comercial marine engines use diesel. As for all-out replacement, by the time you can build a steam engine I would expect them to be going into new hulls, like warships.
>>46509996So... what you are saying is that either we get a modern tech base up and running; create fuel, parts and all that shit, OR we have to go back to either steam or even sail ships in the near future. As i doubt our ships have that much more fuel stored away.
>>46510063It's a question of salvage, and more importantly UNREP. Salvage is anything not nailed down. UNREP, Underway Replenishment, is basically the naval version of siphoning gas out of someone else's car with a rubber hose. And it WILL come up. The question is, can you pull it off with only one point in seamanship?
>>46509996https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbtTEKDfTVohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3anau83Qxt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abjYKarlWxMI give you three videos on how it's produced in a series. Essentially, this >>46509877anon says is mostly right, you need a sugar rich crop, but the problem is breaking down the complex sugars (Cellulose and the like) down to simple sugars (Glucose and Fructose, both present in high amounts in fruit and sugar cane) to then be broken from their glucose ring structures to linearity and then from there broken down from glucose to ethanol. really, if you have brewers yeast and enough time, you can just mass produce rum and then distill it to 100% ethyl alcohol and burn that as fuel.
>>46510155well, we would need a flexible and watertight hose, and a way to make suction. We could always siphon out the depot ship once fuel runs low, there's no way oars are moving that tub.
>>46510158the main problem with this specific method is that it takes a LONG time to create enough, then distill it over and over again till you have totally drained the water away.
>>46510158Welp, that's a thing. It's also a good thing- you can use it for a lot of fuel requirments, including Zodiacs and other Light Craft. The problem is that there's the pesky diesel-gasoline difference. If you could add some longer ethel chains, then that mix would work fairly well.
>>46510252Pretty much, and you're not wrong. I just went on auto pilot for the second and started thinking in terms of ethanol and not diesel, similar but different enough chem comp that you cant really convert between the two, but I believe if you use corn or some other grain crop you can produce bio diesel from that.
>>46510243that, and it means diverting arable farmland away from producing food. Our colony is going to have to work its ass off just to survive in the near future, let alone supplying us with fuel.
>>46510300yeah I was gonna say that, you're gonna need something that either produces a lot quickly, like sugar cane or sugar beets, or use some that's gonna take some chemical and physical treatment before it can be used, like corns and grains. Regardless, it's still going to take a lot of space.
Hate needing to turn trip back on...Also, good discussion, and I need to start writing now.
>>46510329The good news is though, that if we use plant based bio fuels, we can use some of the byproduct as feed for animals (or people if desperate enough)
>>46510397Animals. You have fishing as a fairly good means of getting some food, and farming aside. The follow-up question is where to get or domesticate animals.
>>46510496Teach dolphins to act as cattle of course! but no really, um with a population of 1200 the island would most likely have at least chickens and goats brought in. Regardless that's later not now. Now we focus on three things, get these people off the boats and onto dry land, secure some shelter for them and secure food for them. Water is easy enough to still with solar stills and home built charcoal/sand water filters.
>>46510603The problem is that those are perfect zombie food. Although, I would love to see tamed dolphins. Maybe that can be an Ability, point buy 45...
>>46510929Chickens are wiley fuckers, I've seen them juke farmers for 20 mins before they get tired and fuck off to go find the pig to slaughter. And then the pig outran them. But your point is valid.
>>46511096Caught some at Philmont once. Damn thing was mostly tame, and it evaded me for fifteen minutes. Ok, there are still chickens, then.
So, a question. I saw this in the catalog, and I'm intrigued. Am I to assume that this is a quest set on a sea-borne colony in the aftermath of the zombie apocalypse?
>>46511331More pirates, less colony. Right now that little sidequest is being done to dump extra hot bodies.
>>46511331Only the colony started like pick related
>>46511381>>46511418Good enough for me. So, what's our navigator's situation? Even a year or two after the end, the nautical almanacs should still be good.
>>46511508I think we're a few weeks, months at best into the same year as the happening
>>46511508They are. It's just finding people that can use them. Feel free to duckinto the archives while I write and watch the KQC thread burn.>>46511549Month on the outside. There are still uninfected ships. In theory.
>>46511562That's what I'm doing right now, catching up on all that has happened so far. So far, shit ain't good.
>>46511562I'll have to catch up later, I'm about to head out to see a movie. That said, shit's actually fairly simple. We just need to find an American-flagged ship and get our hands on a Bowditch. It can teach you how to use a sextant with ease. The hard part is just doing the math right; the actual theory behind it is fairly simple now that all the logs and shit have been computed out.
>Yes shore colony on Uki Ni MassaThere was really one option here. Your little squadron was a resource sink, and you were playing a zero-sum game with the time you had. Each day was food and fuel you couldn’t take back, and things were going to get dicey on both fronts soon. “We’re stuck between a rock and a hard place, here.” You said, frowning. “On one hand, that island is going to be absoluty covered in hostile zombies. Assuming things go as normal, call it an even thousand zombies on the island. There would be plenty of food and water, so they wouldn’t need to hunt each other for food. There would be predators, but I doubt they could drastically knock down the population of zombies. So, an even thousand heads of zed. We don’t need to kill them, but we do need to be in a position to hold them off while we evac if it comes to a siege. That crashed ship isn’t going to be very stable, and it would be almost totally uninhabitable. I presume it’s a cruise ship?”“Passenger liner, fairly spartan. Not much we can loot from it.”“Good. The only thing it’s worth is scrap metal. You’re going to have to include it inside the defencive lines anyway, so that’s that. There’s no good harbors, so you’re going to be landing into a beach. I’m detailing the Carolina to anchor here until you get a fort built, because I want nobody staying on that island after dark until you have some good fortifications up. Once you get that fort built, well, good luck.”“Wait a minute- me? Build a fort, run a colony? No fucking way!”CONT
You grin, devilishly. “Yep. Congratulations, you passed the competency test. Find a pleb who can draw up architectural plans, get him to design a triangle fort with enough room for three hundred heads. You can have ten Engineers native to the Carolina, and fifteen Warriors. After that, plebs. When you need to motivate them, mention the fact that the Carolina leaves in a month, and if they aren’t finished then oh well. The growing season is all the time here, make sure you have good drainage in case of a typhoon, and good fucking luck.”Leaving, you listened to Carmine gibber, then transition straight into Angry Marine Matriarch, bar none. It was rather refreshing, as you walked away from the wall of FUCK YOU COCKSUCKERS GET ME THE PAPERWORK AND PLEBIANS! It really was. Heading back to the Arroschere, you yawned distractedly, and smiled. It was shaping up to be a good day-“Sirnath! Sirnath, nous devons y aller! J'ai trouvé ma sœur!”And here was Joan. Hoo boy. She was particularly insistant today, bodily dragging you towards the Comm Shack.“Joan, slow down!” you said, digging in your heels. As you stopped, she looked at you. Your eyes connected, and you remembered something. She could kill zombies by stopping their heart through this same gaze. You had a sudden moment of sympathy for the zombies. “J'ai. Trouvé. Ma. Sœur!”Well, looks like you were going to the comm shack! Inside, Joan flew into a frenzy, speaking faster than you could discern, pointing at things. “Radioman,” you asked quietly, “is that a live contact she’s talking about?”“Erm… more ghost than contact. It’s something, but I’m not sure what.”>Chase the ghost>Let it lie>Other Things>Spec Warrior Training for willing Plebs on Carolina>Sec Engineer Training for willing plebs on Carolina
>>46511695>Cruise linerHell, we might not need to even go that far. I guarantee you that thing has a set of old dusty manuals on the bridge that got put there for passengers on tour and forgotten by the crew. Diamonds to doughnuts there's a Bowditch I and II there.>>46511549>>46511562>one monthyeah, nav's good.
>>46511745>>Chase the ghostAdjust your Gain and Rain. Could just be a big wave.
>>46511745>trouvéGodomit google translate it's touvée she's a girl REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>46511815trouvée even reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>46511745>>Chase the ghost>Spec Warrior Training for willing Plebs on Carolina>Sec Engineer Training for willing plebs on CarolinaBoth are good, we'll need them in any cases
>>46511815>>46511854Every time I do a scene with Joan I feel a little dirty because I KNOW Google mauls the shit out of the French language because it's just as bad to Spanish.I know this because I can actually speak some Spanish, and oh god the humanity.>>46511923One or other, sorry.Also, FUCK THE CAPTCHA
>>46511745>Chase ghost untill visual contact can be made>Spec EngineersIf we have a plan, and we're securing survival, we need more people who can put machines together and keep them running
>>46512123The only problem with this is that right now your engineers are lessmills and lathes and more shovels and hammers and Techpriests of Mars.
>>46512291Steel plate wasn't originally shaped by auto hammers and induction forges. Put those smart fuckers to work and get creative.
>>46512291The tech-priests of Mars have maintained fusion reactors, plasma cannons and much more with only partial understanding. We both have dumb labour to bulk numbers, in their case the servitors and in our case the plebs.By all logic so long as we don't ask the dumb fucks to be creative and come up with the internet or a cold fusion reactor we odd to be fine.
>>46512469The techpriests of Mars have also regularly screwed the pooch on Necron tombworlds and jumped into Tyranid-infested waters for STC shit. You've got auto club nuts and a few engineering majors and plebs who tend to think sit-down protests are a good plan.As long as you're very careful, though, you should be fine...
>>46512790One with two years done, and has expressed a preference for bashing zombies in the head with his shiny new sword.
>>46511745>>Chase the ghost>>Sec Engineer Training for willing plebs on Carolina
>>46512869We should get him to start working on things like: alcohol production, water distillation, and anything else we need
>>46513064Water distillation has been a thing, booze distillation is a plot point later, and everything else is everything else. Also, transfering a level 3 Warrior with no levels in Engineer would just be stupid.
Big update inbound. Hoo boy...
>Chase>EngineersQuietly leaving Joan in the signals room, you snuck up to the bridge. The only things you bothered to remember was that the signal was at heading 165, and the area had some light chop. Communicating this to the helmsman, you went down to check on the Warriors. On your way, you heard something you really didn’t expect- a plebeian talking to a Warrior.
“Hey, man,” the pleb said, schmoozing up to him. “What did you do to get that hot chick that waits on you?”The warrior turned very slowly towards the plebeian, and focused.“Why, exactly, are you asking?”“C’mon, dude! You gotta share this kind of shit! Bros before hoes, and all that! You can’t tell someone how not to get at the pussy and booze and whatever else they have on this piece of shit!”You were fairly sure the Warrior was thinking of how much trouble he would be if he smeared this moron over a bulkhead. The answer was none, but he didn’t know that. “First, she’s not a hoe-““Bullshit! Ain’t never see her do any work ‘cept lounge around you old-timers! How is she not putting out?”“Because she doesn’t want to.” You were fairly certain that Mr. Wanna-be-a-gangster was gasping in shock.“For God’s sakes, why! Hell, you probably don’t even need to ask-“Well, this had been quite pleasant, but you felt that this could be useful for a number of reasons, one of which was setting a pleasant perscedent. Turning the corner, you raised an eyebrow at the Warrior holding the pleb up to the wall by the throat.“Warrior. Stand down.” You intoned softly, watching him carefully. He slowly let the gangster down, but snarled at him when he attempted to move away. “Your name, son?”“Emden, sir.”“Very good, Emden. Now, as I did not here your entire conversation, did this plebeian inquire to the feasibility of preforming rape?”“Buncha half-baked LIES-“After Emden kicked him in the gut, you smiled. “He did, sir. I was in the middle of dissuading him from that path when you entered.”“While I applaud your dedication to the codes of honor among this squadron, next time please take him to the fordeck for purposes of discipline in the future. However, there is a very clear punishment for this sort of event.”
You smiled, faintly, at the gangster. His throat was bruised, and you could see the swelling start. “This man here is to be put on the bowsprit watch until such time he is needed, the post is needed, or two days have passed. Take him to the bowsprit and gather the rest of the Warriors to mount him.”As Emden took him away, you took a second to ask him a question.“Emden, what is the name of the young woman being discussed?”“Alicia, sir. She came for me because I helped her off the liferaft, and with her nightmares.”“Very good. Please inform her she is now considered a Warrior as well. You all need support staff, and I would rather your aides be official rather than grifters which could be thrown off.”“Yessir!”
Back in the signal room, you got ready to cart off the sleeping Joan. Before you got to leave, however, Signalman stopped you.“Sir. The contacts have solidified.”Waitaminute. “Contacts, plural?”“Yes sir. Three of ‘em. One’s looking like a small yacht, ‘bout our size, one’s a trawler like what the Warriors say the old boat was, one’s something I’ve never seen before. The little lady can’t tell us which one her sis is on, though.”“Her sister?”“Grew up in Sault ste. Marie, sir. Can garble my way through some Quebequais, but the little miss here speaks something so far from that it’s like comparing American English to Indian English as spoken by some drunk fucker who emigrated from the part they don’t have call centers in.”Ouch. You visably winced. “That was what it felt like making sense of her, sir. No disrespect, but I can’t translate for her. We’re gonna have to pick a contact, though- all three are drifting apart.”>The trawler>The yacht>The unkown
>>46513708>>The yachtMakes some sense with Noan being found on a life raft maybe?
>>46513708>>The unknownThe yacht and trawler are just a yacht and a trawler, but the unknown can be anything!It can even be a yacht or trawler!
>>46513752>>46513756>>46513780/tg/ at it's finest.
>>46513756No. Njo it's not a yacht or trawler. It has the wrong returns.
>>46513708Trawler would be good for food and small bits of cargoYacht would be good for people and a slightly faster pursuit/retrieval.The unknown is a hell of a risk, do we have relative size?
Well, looks like thread is dead for the night. I'll be archiving and whatnot tommorow morning per usual, and should be around until 1:00 or so for any questions or worlbuilding.
>>46514165Yes. It's bigger than the yacht, and has both active and passive distress signals going full force. You have currently detected no lifeboat beacons, by the way.
>>46514201Mmmm. Still a huge risk. But ill take the road less traveled. I'm for the unknown.
>>46514201>Passive and ActiveSo it's broadcasting an auto-mayday on the MF radio and a vocal distress on Channel 16?
>>46514845Yes and no. For purposes so far, passive beacons are anything that the ship can auto-trigger because shit done got fucked up and nobody hit the stop button. Actives are something someone had to actively pull. You're not sure how the signals guy tells the diffrence.(This was implamented to give anon a decent clue what he was going to find. The only other diffrence is that lifeboats are a seprate passive from the rest of the passives. Someone actively talking on channel 16 would be treated diffrently.)
>>46515004That's what I'm trying to figure out. All the passive alarms you have to press initially. The MF/HF bands, the Sat-C(if that's even still working), the VHF auto alarm, they all have Big Red Button triggers a crewman has to hit. They'll stay broadcasting until someone turns them off, though.About the only passive I can think of is the BNWAS, but I think that stops at ringing the general alarm if it doesn't detect activity on the bridge for a certain time period.
>>46515173Although, if zombies are happening, it's probably easy enough to rig another level to the BNWAS to trigger a mayday broadcast. Maybe something on MF since nobody uses it anymore.
>>46515173I'm going to be rather honest and say I hit the distress signal with the Rule of Mechanics First, Reality Second. Maybe somebody pushed a button, or a zombie smacked it by accident.>>46515215Unlikely. Remember, this is still a very recent zombie apocalypse. As in, it started a few weeks ago.
>>46515751Fair enough.We're running around the Caribbean, right? For the easy pickings?
>>46515837Southeast Asia. Currently we're somewhere in the Solomons.
>>46516054Oh. Well that makes things difficult, at least until we can teach someone to navigate. Or find one of these.