So I've been thinking about this for a long time as a little experiment. It may turn into a several thread thing, or it may just be a one off; either way hopefully people will like it. The twist on this civ is that your race starts off with a few set values ingrained in their culture/society/way of thinking. I'll post these in the next post.You are the Derthas. You have stalked these tunnels for many years, but barely a generation or two ago something miraculous happened. A spark. A spark of sentience suddenly swelled within many of you, as though you were being moulded for some unknown purpose. An elder spider, the matriarch, soon discovered the deep wells of psionic power within her mind, and with this power, she reached out to other nearby Derthas and began to deal with them, bargaining for their allegiance with knowledge and territory. The spiders keep in telepathic contact with one another, but almost never meet besides mating. With just about a dozen spiders at her command, she prepares for whatever fate has in store for this small 'nest'. Population:1 Elder Spider12 Adult SpidersBuilding materials:NoneEnvironment:A deep, dark web of tunnelsYou may:>Explore (Seeking prey, materials, other sentients, knowledge, etc)>Reproduce (Create hatchlings, chances of losing the adult male due to spider post mating cannibalism)>Construct (Repair discovered buildings or construct new ones [requires materials])>Experiment (Work on your psionic capabilities, technology or other such things)
The values of your people are as follows: Your people approve of learning and knowledge, value instinct, or being reactive. They see bargaining or compromise as a highly intelligent solution to a problem, if applicable. Self-defense and taking your own initiative is applauded, though you should make sure to plan for the future. Hatchlings are left to work stuff out for themselves, but if they prove capable of surviving and entrepaneuring, then they become a valued member of society. Derthas loathe stupidity, hesitation, being non-negotiable or just plain old being weak. They do not value the physical form, believing instead that if one should die, they will simply return again in a superior body. These things are what they base their morality upon.
You may also suggest options. Don't roll unless I call for one, when that happens I'll take best of three (though a 100 or a 1 will overrule others). I also forgot to give some biological details, considering we're going with spiders.Your people are very strong, tough, and very intelligent, though other races may find you abhorrent. You are stealthy and expect climbers (only need a check to climb in extreme circumstances), you are very fast in short bursts, and can also burrow if you need to, forging new passageways and tunnels. You have a nasty bite that can deliver a strong paralytic venom through the saliva. You can see perfectly in the dark, but are dazzled a bit in strong light.
>>46506490>>46506528>>46506706This looks interesting OP, hopefully it picks up.>Explore (seek prey)
Explore in search of other sentients. Leave the hatchlings to work stuff out for themselves.
>>46506815There are currently no hatchlings. 2 votes for explore so far so I'll go with that, but I need a consensus (minimum 2 people at this point), on what you're looking for.
>>46506>>46506920I vote for explore (seek prey)
>>46506490Fuck yeah we need to explore for some prey. Is happening, lads
>>46507053Whoops. >>46506971Okay. If you're a new poster then this locks in seeking prey.Can I get a roll of 1d100 from everybody please? Best of the first three posted.
Rolled 31 (1d100)>>46507140
Rolled 15 (1d100)>>46507140
Rolled 45 (1d100)>>46507140
>>46506528Great, now I want to reinstall Ants.
>>46507276Does this mean spiders are just shit hunters?
>>46507244Your spiders hunt... And though the tunnels today appear empty, but at least there was nothing dangerous lurking around, besides your own giant arachnids, anyway. The hunters did come back with a small amount of food from some small subterranean creatures, it wasn't much in the grand scheme of things. You may:>Explore (Seeking prey, materials, other sentients, knowledge, etc)>Reproduce (Create hatchlings, chances of losing the adult male due to spider post mating cannibalism)>Construct (Repair discovered buildings or construct new ones [requires materials])>Experiment (Work on your psionic capabilities, technology or other such things)
>>46507373> constructIt would be an good idea to set up a home from which to spider safely before we start spidering too hard.
Explore in search of other sentients.
>>46507373>Construct (Repair discovered buildings or construct new ones [requires materials])First, find food.Then, secure food, maybe build a reliable food source. Probably get some cattle or something like that.And then, start reproducing. Once that too is secured, experiment.
>>46507392looks like we need building materials to construct, unless OP lets us make webs.I vote to Explore more
>>46507440I would allow basic construction with webs.
>>46507485Webs requires food to make, it's very demanding on the spider's body.We need to get more food and find a way to conserve it, because meat spoils very quickly and I doubt spiders can find or even consume salt.And I doubt the spiders are vegans in that story.
>>46507373ExploreAlthough building would be nice, the only thing we got to use is webbing, and that requires food/energy to produce.
>>46507440Ah right Explore then
Okay, so unless there's any objections, exploring it is. What are you seeking? Sapient species? Construction materials? Food? Just looking for a brief consensus here before asking for rolls.
>>46507640Id say construction materials
Another species to ally with.
>>46507640I'd say more food. You cannot have too much food.
>>46507740>>46507765>>46507784>>46507794Food it is. Roll 1d100 each.
Rolled 3 (1d100)>>46507829better be better then the last ones
Rolled 65 (1d100)>>46507829>>46507740 here. Rolling.
Rolled 74 (1d100)>>46507829Let the shit rolls keep on rolling.
>>46507856Some of your hunters return with large chunks of webbed meat after a day or two of hunting. It would appear that after tracking prints in the dust on the floor, they managed to find the lair of some large serpents, for whom they laid a webbing trap for. It paid off, and many of the small bestial dragons fell prey to the Derthas, and your people are thoroughly nourished for the month to come, the remainder of the meat preserved slightly within the web. You may:>Explore (Seeking prey, materials, other sentients, knowledge, etc)>Reproduce (Create hatchlings, chances of losing the adult male due to spider post mating cannibalism)>Construct (Repair discovered buildings or construct new ones [requires materials])>Experiment (Work on your psionic capabilities, technology or other such things)
Lets find a way to focus psionic energy into light. We could then use it to lure prey closer like angler fish, or to make caves more cozy.
>>46508120Also, where there's light and heat, there's the most basic technology needed by any newly birthed race.
>>46508110Explore for some materials so we can start building a home
>>46508110Let's construct.Also, mark on a map or something where the snakes are so that you can go pester them once in a while.Not too often though, or they'll leave.
>>46508162We have pound for pound the strongest material possible to build with already.
>>46508199Yeh but it is incredibly taxing on the spoders to make web.Having some wood or stone would give us a solid layer from which to build upon.
>>46508199Well, the strongest material until extremely advanced knowledge comes into the equation, but that's semantics.
Okay guys, going to need some kind of consensus on what you're doing here. >>46508120That would be the experiment action
>>46508403Im voting explore for building materials
>>46508403Guys, lets just try this first, THEN worry about infrastructure. So ya, experiment.
>>46508438>>46508431Can we do both?
>>46508110ConstructLay thin threads all through the tunnels coming back to our home/base/whatever. Anything disturbing them will let us know where they're coming from.
1 vote for explore1 vote for experiment1 vote for constructGonna need a tiebreaker guys
>>46508635Explore for building materials
>>46508650>>46508652JUST LET US DO BOTH!
Are namefagging up to avoid confusion?Also building materials
>mfw the Spider-Civ version of a cop using a breathchecker is just asking the suspected drunk/high spider in question to make a web.
>>46508679No, people besides the OP are namefagging because they are attention seeking fags.
>>46508650Saw experiment first to prevent further ties. Going to need 1d100s.
Rolled 7 (1d100)>>46508716
Rolled 15 (1d100)>>46508716Rev up those 1s!
>>46508715Affirmative mi amigo
Rolled 22 (1d100)>>46508716Have one.
Rolled 33 (1d100)>>46508716
Welp. At this rate we'll open a door to another quest, and Grues will invade.
what wonderful rolls tonight
>>46508793But it's true though.
>>46508750One of the adult spiders attempts to hone her psionic abilities through experimentation. She practices with light-based psionics, but in a freak accident she fuses her body with the power she was trying to manifest, which now permanently emits light. Her hunting days are over, and she cannot be seen by other spiders as her light would blind them. Population:1 Elder Spider11 Adult Spiders1 Glowing Adult SpiderYou may:>Explore (Seeking prey, materials, other sentients, knowledge, etc)>Reproduce (Create hatchlings, chances of losing the adult male due to spider post mating cannibalism)>Construct (Repair discovered buildings or construct new ones [requires materials])>Experiment (Work on your psionic capabilities, technology or other such things)
>>46508875>One of the adult spiders attempts to hone her psionic abilities through experimentation. She practices with light-based psionics, but in a freak accident she fuses her body with the power she was trying to manifest, which now permanently emits light. Her hunting days are over, and she cannot be seen by other spiders as her light would blind them.Well that's sad. Maybe we can use her during hunting as a beater, a tout. You know, the one scaring the animals and sending them toward you.Also : explore for materials, and build a granary to keep food for longer.
>>46508875Fuck itConstruct we need to build a proper homeAlso whoever wanted the experiment, we got a glowing spider, we could have got something useful, but nah glowing spider.
Ostracize the poor victim. Construct a proper home.
>>46509022I was gonna suggest killing the mutant, as it is an affront to the pure arachnid form.
>>46509063Don't waste venom on a harmless person. Send her away and let fate be the judge.
>>46509063I'm sure we can find a good use for it.
>>46508875>Construct (Repair discovered buildings or construct new ones [requires materials])Simple web houses go
We should make baby spiders, grow our society. Also farms.
>>46508921>>46509022>>46509150Construct locked in. What are we making? Web houses? Thin thread tripwires?
>>46509172Spiders aren't vegans, having farms would be useless.Unless you plan to trade.
>>46509195The web houses from which our proud spider communist utopia will flourish
>>46509195This, except so thick sunlight is a distant lie.
>>46509254I fully expect Spider communism to be about as corrupt and ineffective as human communism.Probably more so, what with the cannibalism and all.
We must build farms, capture some humanoid, create a hybrid creature, and use it as ambassador.Then, we start trading, get money, and everything goes better.
>>46509315Sounds like a problem you should talk to your local morale officer about.
>>46509341But the local morale officer was eaten last week by Area 14's Overseer, and the Overseer for my area was eaten yesterday by a traveling pack of escaped darkbreed elf slaves.
>>46509395Well then i suggest you apply a .45 caliber bullet into your skull via explosive projectile tubes to save the new officer some work.
>>46509315With thoughts of socialism in the air, a young male spider thought new ideas.What if the force that gave us our sentience didn't intend for us to turn on each other after mating. Prey-hunting aside, maybe we should resort to pacifism. After all, it'd help our population.
Okay guys, houses or tripwires?
>>46509527Houses. It'll increase everyone's morale.
>>46509527Let the hoose loose.House
So I just realized.That glowey spider, if we ever move our entire civilization underground, into giant caverns, she could be like our very own living sun.Like, I hate using this comparison, but the giant artificial sun thing in Blackreach, for our slaveservant races.
>>46509670That would come later, when we are more setup. Also we would have to biggify her, and keep her in one spot, but i like where its going.
>>46509696I was thinking more along the lines of an entire caste, Slave/Cattle minders and underground explorers, subterranean creatures really don't like bright lights.
>>46509670HEY, HEY, HEY.What if we order the glowing spider to cultivate the farms?
>>46509762Spiders don't farm silly, though she and her spawn could be our rough equivalent to green-houses for our servile races.
>>46509762I dont think farms are much of a priority right now
>>46509788We could farm mushrooms and trade them for money.
>>46509814We are a bunch of giant spiders.We will never be a trade nation, unless it's with the Illithid equivalents around us, we can exchange recipes.
>>46509841>We will never be a trade nationRead the OP.>They see bargaining or compromise as a highly intelligent solution to a problemWe aren't murderhobos.
>>46509841>>46509865Its to early to debate this now.Lets just get the basics done first.
>>46509841Hey! I want to be the trade nation, it fits into our moral system. As, to quote>>46506528;"They see bargaining or compromise as a highly intelligent solution to a problem, if applicable."
>>46509865>They see bargaining or compromise as a highly intelligent solution to a problemAmong themselves.Anon, I want you to go and make a sandwhich, pretend it's a person, and then try and bargain with it before giving up and eating it.
>>46509199I was thinking more livestock and the feed to keep them alive, but yeah trading is probably something the spiders would be down for.
>>46509851Civ, Evo and Nations General.>>46509814We're spiders, good luck with trading and diplomacy.
>>46509887And the basic is to ensure we have a steady food income. Other goods will come later, but food is mandatory, and personally I don't trust hunting to give us a reliable amount of food.>>46509926That would work too. That is, if we can get underground cattle.>>46509933PSYCHIC spiders. The people we want to trade with don't need to see what they're trading with.
>>46509956Anon, Diplomacy and trade is simply not done without SOME face-to-face meetings, and we aren't certain if we can mind-jack lesser creatures just yet.
>>46509956Lets just get the houses built and figure out whats going on around us, we can subsist on what the hunters bring in for now.
>>46510002In the worst case, we can use some mind control to get a voice.>>46510010>we can subsist on what the hunters bring in for nowI hope so.
>>46510023Dude theres like twelve of us right now and we only just getting houses. Lets just slow it down, and get a feel for whats going on around us.
>>46510112That's what LOSERS do. You have to be ambitious, little spider. Think on a long-term. Also, I'm going to bed. Keep that thread alive.
Are we kill already?
>>46510355I think OP just passed out or something. We're waiting on houses getting build.
>>46509923I tried to barter with my sandwich, it offered chips if I didn't eat it. I still ate it... I am a monster
I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SPIDER CIV ALL DAYI FIND IT AND ITS DEADI WILL HAVE SOMEONES HEAD FOR THIS
This reminds me a lot of the Nerubian/Aqir from Warcraft for sum reason
I apologise guys, I may have passed out. I've just finished a 3 day stretch of work, about 40-50 hours worth. Still a bit tired even after sleeping but if there are people about I'll continue this.
Oh, and if people are here... Gimme 1d100 for the houses.
Rolled 94 (1d100)>>46517030here goes nothing
>>46517469They would not be called houses by any other race's standards, but to the Derthas they were perfect. They were more like big, sprawling nests of webbing that housed each individual spider within the group (separately, however, as placing the spiders too close to one another is the fastest way for conflict between them to arise). These nests help improve morale and the feeling of security within the Derthas, and as an added bonus, the sprawling nests often catch smaller creatures, giving each spider it's own small supply of food, meaning even the glowing spider has some form of food intake.>These small morsels of food are enough to sustain the spiders, meaning you no longer need to hunt to keep your people alive that way. However, you will still need more food to make anything out of webbing, meaning you'll need to hunt prior to making a construct action when using your web.You may:>Explore (Seeking prey, materials, other sentients, knowledge, etc)>Reproduce (Create hatchlings, chances of losing the adult male due to spider post mating cannibalism)>Construct (Repair discovered buildings or construct new ones [requires materials])>Experiment (Work on your psionic capabilities, technology or other such things)
>>46517642>Reproduceit's time to use that crazy reproduction bonus that spiders have
>>46517642Make them babbies.
>>46517655>>46517718That's consensus enough for me as far as it goes at the moment. Gimme those 1d100s.
Rolled 24 (1d100)>>46517728let's not roll a 1 here and literally be infertile spiders
Rolled 38 (1d100)>>46517728
Rolled 72 (1d100)>>46517728>>46517774don't worry we get three rolls i think>here comes the 1
>>46517784>1>all males are eaten and no babies happen
>>46517784The spiders mate successfully, and even luckier is the fact that none of the adult males were cannibalised during this process, all of whom managed to escape without harm. Several hundred eggs are laid, but only 72 of them will reach adulthood alive (that being said, some may have survived only to flee, etc). They will become adults within 5 turns.In a heightened state of awareness due to all the hatchlings, some of the Derthas begin to notice occasional noises, like shuffling, from the other side of a particular tunnel wall...Population:1 Elder Spider11 Adult Spiders1 Glowing Adult Spider72 Hatchlings (5 turns left until adulthood)You may:>Explore (Seeking prey, materials, other sentients, knowledge, etc)>Reproduce (Create hatchlings, chances of losing the adult male due to spider post mating cannibalism)>Construct (Repair discovered buildings or construct new ones [requires materials])>Experiment (Work on your psionic capabilities, technology or other such things)
>Explore beyond the wall if we can get behind the shuffling
>>46517839investigate the shuffling, we should have some spiders guard the hatchlings and have the rest investigate.
>>46517839>Explore (surroundings)>lay out traps as well and use glowing spider to help find something and as bait
One question, does we strictly ptedator like spiders irl?
Okay, Exploring locked in. Going to go with investigating the shuffling as that seems to be some sort of consensus. Give me 1d100s.>>46517921Strictly predatory, yup.>Ironically captcha asked me to pick pictures of salads for this post.
Rolled 70 (1d100)>>46517930Here wego
Rolled 22 (1d100)
>>46517930Just thinking how to tap the free light energySince irl spider drink the digested liquefied prey, maybe we can also drink vege juice or yeast juice like beer?
Rolled 31 (1d100)
Rolled 15 (1d100)>>46517930
>>46517952You attempt to find a way to the other side of the tunnel wall via tunnels, but you don't seem to be able to find an entrance. One of the Derthas carefully scrapes his way through to the other side of the wall, effectively burrowing through. As soon as he breaks into the other side he retreats instinctively, several burning sticks mounted on the cave wall burning into his eyes. He hisses and clicks, before slowly crawling back in, letting his eyes adjust to the dim torchlight. He is in some kind of corridor, there are dead.. things on the ground here. They are humanoid in shape, but resemble bats. They appear to have been killed, but the Derthas finds it strange they have been left uneaten. They wear padded cloth armour, which seems weird and unusual to the spider. Upon investigating the corpses further, it appears that though each one was killed in similar, yet different ways, each one appears to have had some kind of sharp instrument rammed into their skulls, just to be safe.You are in an event mode now. Normal turns will return after the event is complete. What would you like your spider to do?
>>46518057Harvest or feast on thr dead
Drag the dead back using our webs
>>46518120The spider drags the corpses back to his nest and strings them up in his web. You may at some point devour the corpses to be able to construct with your web, alternatively, you have some time in which to study these creatures, or do anything else you may think of. Do you wish to go back to the corridor before returning to the next turn?
>>46518177get more spiderswe fight in swarms.64 legs are better than 8
>>46518177Construct tripwires. especially in the corridor.
>>46518207but these 2 legged things have fire, our tripwires may be our own death you fool.
>>46518185>>46518207You gather several adult spiders and go to the corridor, where you construct several tripwires. The spiders are uncomfortable having to share space with each other, but they're putting up with that, for now. Your spiders are currently standing in the corridor. One of the spiders notices that the distant end of the corridor has caved in, but the other end turns a corner at some point, and from then on it's path is unknown. What do you want to do?
>>46518252send some spiders down there, have the other waiting to ambush non-spiders at the entrance.that way the spider share the space between less spiders and we have a scout party and a strong defense should the worst happen.
>>46518252Establish ambush at the entrance to the tunnel. Maybe something à la trapdoor spiders.Send some spiders to investigate both ends of the tunnel. Maybe the cave-in is deliberate.
>>46518252>The spiders are uncomfortable having to share space with each otherSo what, we have a civilization of loners?
A couple of spiders wait at the entrance, whilst others investigate both ends of the tunnel. The cave in appears to have caught some other creatures in it, different to the ones you took before. These creatures have whiskers and fur, longish mouths, and though they are humanoid, they have a hunched form, as if they walk everywhere on either two or four legs depending on the situation. They look to be much more dexterous than you or the bat-people, and the slightly webbed hands and feet seem to point to something of an aquatic lifestyle. They wear armour made of dried... plants? You're not entirely sure what it is. They were wielding spears, but besides that, nothing else. On the other end of the tunnel, three spiders stealthily scout around the corner. They come to some stairs, and heading up them, they notice that there a few more bat-people corpses. Upon reaching the top of the stairs, they discover the ruins of an old hallway, there's signs of battle here, but no more corpses. The eastern wall of this hall has been completely blasted away by something, leaving it open to the world outside. A starry night is above you if you venture outside.You have reached the surface.
>>46518555Send the glowing spider first as a scout. She won't be too blinded by the light of the outside.
>>46518553Most spiders are solidarity as they are predators in nature and need their own turf.
>>46518553Effectively, yes. About the only saying the Derthas have at the moment is: "It is good to be in touch, but it is bad to be touched."
>>46518572And yet we're trying to build a civilization with them.This is going to end badly.>>46518575YOU MUSTDESTROY THE INDIVIDUALTHE COMMUNITY COMES FIRST
i dont think they can turn into hive mind but instead like a feudal kingdom with lords, knights and shits have theirs own armies and lands
>>46518583We arent THAT Marxist, I suggest we return to our caves and puah out our borders to the entrance
Fun fact:All spider's have venom in their saliva at least technically as it contains enzymes to breakdown tissue into fluids.
So guys, do we have a consensus with what you're doing? >>46518570It is currently night, and there is no moon in the sky, just stars, so it's no brighter than the torches in the corridor.>Anything brighter than this would be a pain to you though.>>46518583They aren't so much loners as they are territorial. Anybody encroaching on their space is liable to be killed and eaten, just for being there. Plus, you effectively have a huge telepathic link to each other so you can talk without ever needing to meet (besides when mating occurs).
>>46518725We should probably seal off the surface exit. Wouldn't want anyone accidentally wandering in before we're ready to consume them.Also see about returning the newly found bats and those... aqua-men to the webs. With any luck, there are more of them beyond the cave-in.
>>46518725So basically zergs or tyranids that are just less focused on taking over the world and more on living "peacefully".
>>46518754Well surely we decide how "peaceful" we want to be
>>46518754I say focus on this cave system instead of surface. Kill all the other sapiens.
>>46518794no, align with the batgirls, breed flying driders
>>46518813Flying in cave? nah. Better go with aquatic diving spiders.
>>46518825no, flying for the surface scouts, and we can always dig into some kind of chasm network, the underground isn't necessarily solid.
>>46518846we cant see very well in daylight and also in other condition as we lived on cave, mostly depends on touch sensory. The scouting would run bad.
>>46518856no, we'd have flight and bat's sonar, screeching, flying driders
>>46518856Clearly the solution is to make slave races of the bats and fishmen.Only we call it "In-friend-tured servitude".
>>46518747So we have a suggestion of sealing off the surface exit and taking the corpses back to the nests. Anybody have any objections or counter suggestions to this?
>>46518870scouting on what terrain? the sonar wouldn't work well in differentiating creatures based on sizes and movement only. Btw, how can we guide ourselves if cant see well? Sonar need large and well enough obstacle to work as landmark
>>46518902We hate the surface, it is for the weak.
>>46518902No objections here
>>46518902I think we should experiment for a while to devise a way of communicating with non spiders, then try a search for sapients
>>46518961We can do that once we have the corpses, though.
>>46518972yeah, check their belongings too they may have useful stuff that doesn't require hands.
>>46518961They are inferior, non-chitinous, vegetarian lifeform that huddle and lives together. They don't respect privacy and fight in group which does not promote individual bravery and valor.
The spiders burrow through the earth above the stairs (but underneath the hall), causing it to collapse down upon the entire entrance to the tunnels. You can always burrow back through, now you know the way. For now though you take the bodies back to the nest like the others. Do you wish to do anything else before ending the event?
>>46518994My chitinous brother, you are mistaken.Yes, they roam in groups, yes, they depend on their peers, but does that make them inferior?yes.but does it make them worth of disdain? no. We stand alone, 8 legged and mighty, but these poor thing struggle along on 2 legs, is it really so surprising they would fight with 3 other bipeds at their side? no, for it is our way as well.
>>46518994>They don't respect privacy and fight in group which does not promote individual bravery and valorHERESY>>46519017What's the current situation? Do we have enough food for everyone?Yeah, sorry, I'm obsessed with that.
>>46519017check the bodies, they might have just been sedated and then not coccooned for some reason. A living biped would be worth studying, or serve as a way of keeping it's meat fresh if a hunt should fail.
>>46518984A few of them have books, but these seem to have been specifically targeted by the spears of the aquatic folk for some reason. Besides this, nothing of worth is found.>>46519061However, closer inspection of one of the bodies reveals something interesting; it's wounds are... healing. Very slowly, but you think this one might still be alive.
>>46519061Not to mention we must master at least one of these two : memory wipe, or mind control.That way, we'll ensure nobody will come down here until we have a flourishing empire.
>>46519017I think that's about it.>>46519052We get enough small bugs caught in the webbing of our homes to sustain us.
>>46519037I may not be the Chitinous Brother to who you speak but these bipeds are our rightful prey.We Derthas hunt alone. We Derthas walk alone. We derthas live alone.What these squishy prey-beasts don't understand is. We Derthas rule alone. Our cave. Our lairs. Our prey.We will not accept this incursion.
>>46519077Oh boy. Wrap it up and gag it before it wakes up.
>>46519052explain, my sister.Naturally, female spiders are bigger, stronger than male. I suggest an amazon culture.Lore, more lore pls, i am bad in writing>>46519077let this one lives long enough to tell/picture the tales
>>46519077web the absolute fuck out of it, sedate it, then bring it back to the lair.Is it the only healing one?
>>46519077Keep the creature restrained, it may need investigating and 'talking' to later....
>>46519099>Amazonpls no brono mo
>>46519081So I don't need to worry about food, okay.Sorry, video games traumatized me about that.>>46519099The BroodMother in the underground lives secluded, and respect even the feeble-minded and the fool when they visit, as long as they're respectful in return. We shall strive for the same, and respect the others.>>46519077Experiment psychic powers, see if you can communicate, or, in the worst case, just rip his memory away from it.
>>46519121Bu...but male Derthas dies from mating ritual. Maybe matriarchy?>>46519130no peace for those disgusting bipeds. Cave is ours.
>>46519141You are Lord of Nothing for you clearly have no bones in your body! All Derthas are strong, male and female alike
>>46519141The underground is ours. The overworld? Hmm, they can keep it.Also, sooner or later, we'll run into rats.
>>46519094>>46519099>>46519101>>46519106The creature is now effectively a ball of web it's been webbed so much. You bring it back to the elders nest. >>46519130The creature does not respond to your mental probing. Possibly because it is out cold.
>>46519141>Tfw no qt eight-legged goddess will mate with you and RIP AND TEAR YOUR FUCKING FLESH.
>>46519178Keep it alive but cocooned.Its dead friend are for dinner tonight.
>>46519160In addition to our highly evolved chitin carapace with increased resistance by tri-trials of flame, acid and metal, i wore the armor from the bones of vanquished vertebrate
>>46519183May i suggest on research:sperm deployment by webbing into transportable pouch and present to a collect point where the females will taste and select the true strong winner of natural selection
>>46519192> that loser is tying the remains of food to himself again> he smells AWFUL> why is he doing it? what a weirdo
>>46519208It sounds good, but at the same time, I think the traditional way might be bestAny male to weak to escape or fend off the larger female is too weak to servePurge the lesser elementsSpider Imperium now
>>46519221kek but come on.We Dethras are blessed in eight ways, in eighth time by eight Gods on eighth days of eight days after the Bottomless Cave creation.We are blessed with acute sense of touch not eyesight and also smell which adores by the fucking squsihy. weaklings.
>>46519271>don't let your web touch his, he's too edgy> he keeps talking about a lack of smell, is he just anosmic because of his odour>doesn't smell using his leg hairs like the rest of us>ties stinky bones to his legs>what a weirdo>don't mate with him, we can't cope with 70 retarded hatchlings running around
Population:1 Elder Spider11 Adult Spiders1 Glowing Adult Spider72 Hatchlings (4 turns left until adulthood)1 Unidentified bat-personYou may:>Explore (Seeking prey, materials, other sentients, knowledge, etc)>Reproduce (Create hatchlings, chances of losing the adult male due to spider post mating cannibalism)>Construct (Repair discovered buildings or construct new ones [requires materials])>Experiment (Work on your psionic capabilities, technology or other such things)In addition, the creature should wake up next turn.
>>46519300seriously kekLeg hairs evolved for touch though. and, one of the strategy to win over or actually to prevent getting eaten by female is to present a gift of webbed food/corpse and while she is sucking it, the male fuck
Rolled 71 (1d100)>>46519327Experiment
>>46519327Experiment on psi abilities. Need to learn how to interact with bat creature
>>46519327and one ridicule, outcast bony spider>Experiment (Work on your psionic capabilities, technology or other such things)mind reading or how we going to communicate with to be slave and prey who use audio as communication which is not light speed
>>46519330http://ednieuw.home.xs4all.nl/Spiders/InfoNed/sensoryleg.html> can't use the web> calls himself a spider
>>46519327ReproducePut the eggs in the bat furryLet the young hatch and eat itWe wont need to hunt for them
>>46519345>>46519343>>46519352Okay, give me 1d100's then. I'll count the 71 this time because I'm nice, but you should wait until rolls are called for.
>>46519327>Experiment maybe you can use that glowing magic to create bait? Shit goes after shiny things right? Just cocoon a glowing piece of junk and see if any fools walk towards it. Blinded by the light they won't be able to see the trap they bout to walk into to.
Rolled 64 (1d100)>>46519367
Rolled 40 (1d100)>>46519367
>>46519367You'll waste posts if you want to go that way.The auto bump is at 300 on /tg/?
Rolled 30 (1d100)>>46519362thx teach, i truly learned.>>46519367>>46519396open new cont thread then?
>>46519396>auto-bumpactually it's auto sage not bump, bump make threads reach higher pages , sage make them go down pages depending the number of posts.But yeah at 300 the thread will be bump locked meaning it will slowly descend into lower pages until thread is over but i've seen a few quests extend to 400 posts tho most make a new thread after 300 posts
>>46519371lay countless unfertilized glowing eggs preserved them and sell as lamp
I think we're trying too hard to fall into the evil spider cliche. A society of traders and bards is what I think we should go for.
>>46519493A society of traders is what I've been trying to push.>society of bard>now imagining a one-spider orchestraNO
>>46519493to be a predator is not evil as being a carnivore or omnivore. This is our nature, this is our duty and burden. We are superior lifeform, it is disrepute scientific and religion. They are sapient but they are not unlike apes/monkey to man.
>>465194934x Instruments per spider. I like that efficiency. Traders doesn't seem practical unless psionics lets us make thralls.
Rolled 33 (1d100)>research>web instruments
>>46519343Your people practice their abilities, and it seems to pay off. When the creature wakes, you're pretty confident you'll be able to establish some kind of mind-link with it, perhaps you could even influence it's emotional state somewhat, in order to relax it a little.Population:1 Elder Spider11 Adult Spiders1 Glowing Adult Spider72 Hatchlings (3 turns left until adulthood)1 Unidentified bat-personYou may:>Explore (Seeking prey, materials, other sentients, knowledge, etc)>Reproduce (Create hatchlings, chances of losing the adult male due to spider post mating cannibalism)>Construct (Repair discovered buildings or construct new ones [requires materials])>Experiment (Work on your psionic capabilities, technology or other such things)In addition, the creature is now awake. Feel free to say what you want to do with it.>>46519493With the Derthas, what I was going for was a race with a moral system that just doesn't really fall into good or evil very well anywhere, but as you are predators you will definitely seem to have evil traits to some degree. >Sorry for the wait guys, had to take a phone call from my girlfriend.
>>46519633>phone call from my girlfriendFAAAAAAAAAAAAKE
>>46519633>>Experiment (Work on your psionic capabilities, technology or other such things)
>>46519633wait for bat thing to wake up, have a couple of spiders ready in case it does something surprising.
>>46519633Interrogate the bat person.
>>46519652What would you like to work on?
>>46519666Tracking QM gf
>>46519633Attempt to communicate with the creature. Ask who and what it is. What it's doing below the surface. That sort of thing.
>>46519633>ExperimentDo we even have any form of communication to non spiders? If yes then see if we can daisy link spider minds to improve knowledge and thinking. We'll call it The Internet.
>>46519633>Experiment (Work on your psionic capabilities, technology or other such things)improve on psi shits, mind reading first
>>46519666What about ... inter-species psi communication, with training wheels, via a hatchling you put in the target's head. That's right. We have a baby spider crawl into the guy's brain and receive psi signals from us and translate them to the host.
>>46519694>not the interweb
>>46519709>We have a baby spider crawl into the guy's brainToo evil for me.
>>46519709That's a brilliant idea...I love it!
>>46519721Shit forgive me, I haven't had enough coffee.
>>46519721>Not Web of Intrigue>>46519722Very neutral. Just efficient. Perhaps we could remove the middle man hatchling, in time. And this way you only need to do it to one specimen of a race. Not everyone.
>>46519740Don't go full tyranid on me.
Can't we just like... try talking to it?
>>46519722No more evil than the spiders accidentally crawling into people's ears thinking it's a dark, snug hiding place where it can be eternally happy.
>>46519672Welp, she just got back from work and is currently munching on some coco pops, I know what she's like so I'm assuming she'll fall asleep on the settee for an hour or so afterwards (she's anaemic). Okay, looks like experimenting is locked in. Are you working on telepathy?>>46519655>>46519664>>46519676The creature wakes up wrapped in web, it panics at first, struggling wildly. As you connect your mind to its own, you sense it's confusion at its situation. It panics at the touch of your mind and struggles against it, making it difficult for you to establish the connection. Would you like to attempt to calm it psionically? 1d100.>>46519694You believe you have a way to mind-link with non-spiders now. Your mental links don't use language as such, just thoughts, images and memories, so the language barrier shouldn't be much of a problem.
>>46519758Spiders have no vocal cord and thus cannot speak.>>46519767Shut the fuck up.
>>46519758we just developed psychic communication from experimenting, we'lll communicate with it just fine.
>>46519771Let's try, yeah. Let's do it step by step : first we try to calm it down, then we try to communicate.Let's do it slowly to not fry its brain.
Rolled 89 (1d100)>>46519771
Rolled 84 (1d100)>>46519771Psi on!
>>46519774Don't worry. It's such a rare thing that you can pretend it never happens.
Rolled 18 (1d100)>>46519785Dammit. It's dice+1d100, not roll+1d100.>>46519799LALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR LALALALALAL
Rolled 91 (1d100)>>46519771Talk to the boy. Give him a little silk rose to calm him down. Exchange some mental back and forth. Don't reveal too much about ourselves and try to get as much as we can from him.Get a hatchling attached to him to spy where his nest is. Or an adult to follow and track him. Food supply.
erm. Are we evil or not? We must vote and decide now so that later actions reflect our alignment.By evil i mean not peace-making
>>46519835We are spiders. Our whims and fancies guide us.It's not like we'll raid and rape and pillage everything. We just... exist. If something cannot provide us with an incentive not to, we'll consume it should it fall into our traps.
>>46519872>>46519835Do we actively raid on other sapients?
>>46519835Dar'ob wants no peace with these bipedal prey!
>>46519835Eating. Expanding, and Evolving isn't Evil.It's not like we learned psionics to purposely instill despair and fear into victims before eating them.
>>46519872This post is what I was going for initially with the civ. >>46519790You manage to influence the creature, and calm it successfully. It's still hesitant to accept the mind-link, but it does so.Now tell me... what do you 'say' to it?
>>46519881I'd have to go with no.That seems like a very unspider-like thing to do. Better to let your prey come to you and get taken by the trapdoor spiders.That's not to say we shouldn't perform preemptive strikes against anyone threatening us.
>>46519908what are you?
Thanks all. I get it now, we only want to survive.But, can we hate those bipeds and treat them as intelligent prey ?
>>46519908Who are you and where do you come from?
>>46519908First question would be >What happened between batpeople and your kin.
>>46519939>I am batman.
>>46519908>"Can it talk?">"Who and what is it?">"What is it doing down here?">"How is it alive?"Basically refer to it as, well, "it" until we learn more.
>>46519939>>46519978Damn. Way to reveal ALL of our cards. Now the little shit can say whatever it wants to deceive us. Mind-link seems weak currently if some recently conscious being can choose either to accept or not. Gotta improve that shit later
>>46520032Surely, if we have no use for it after. We could consume it?
>>46520054we waste nothing
>>46520054>>46520076Short sighted sisters. Still for a moment and think. If we find out it's nest then our webs could be made to better catch them as they wonder.A single batkin is but a morsel compared to a nest. Feed many more hatchlings that way.
>>46520094i forget, this>>46520032
>>46520032are you high? we asked what it was, if it wants to lie to us it will anyway, i guess we could roll some kind of insight or sense deception thing and respond accordingly.why assume it would lie? why assume we would be 100% convinced by a lie?you need to chill out.
>>46520106we are blessed with spider sense, sista.
The creature seems flustered by the mind(s) in it's head. It takes a moment to compose itself, before responding in a series of thoughts, sounds and images. "I am Olziytomor, a magician of the Waiyashan, why should I tell you anything whilst I am strung up like a dead pig? I shall tell you no more until I'm free of these binds."
>>46520106The thing just got captured by giant spiders. Something that eats meat to survive. It's calm because we aren't eating it or torturing it currently.What the fuck would compel it to speak the truth? Come on mayne, improve your spy game a little. We could have atleast bluffed into saying "You aren't like other batkins. Tell me why are you in our territory?"Questions like that give room for slip ups in the batkin's answer. Could allude to it being alone or in a community. It's motives like hunting or exploring. In which case hunting is mostly non-consequential but exploring could very well mean a bat kin community nearby looking to expand.
>>46520156Stab it lightly with our venomous fang>>46520168cant we just torture physically and mentally?
>>46520094Dar'ob, Brother of all Chitins wishes you well and appreciates your far-seeing eyes...
>>46520156>Ah, well. Guess we will just have to eat you.Captcha-Food
>>46520156>"We could have consumed Olziytomor of the Waiyashan, but its wounds were healing and it intrigued us."
>>46520156"Surely a 'magician' is powerful yes? We are merely binding you in the interest of safety for the young."Yo, don't eat him yet. We can eat him and his little magician disciples after he introduces us to Waiyashan nest.
>>46520200This. Also post pictures of his dead friends.
>>46520244Hm, sure.>"Its kin was found dead and did not heal like Olziytomor of the Waiyashan.">"Also these which are not of the Waiyashan did not heal."Then project images of the dead into its mind.
Okay guys, not sure how to choose which ones to go with here. I'm inclined to simply pick the ones that fit most with the values and such I posted at the top of the thread, but what would you guys suggest? (I've not QM-ed for a couple years, so advice is always welcome)
>>46520297Lets just do this>>46520244>>46520283>>46520200
>>46520297so we are not evil spider that eat any living things.
>>46520297I'll be honest, I think the direction we are going goes against your initial posting but that doesn't mean it's bad
>>46520421Well, we'll see how this turns out. I think at the moment when it comes to questions or interactions I'll probably just pick the one I can work with the most.>>46520330"Fair point, but how am I to know that once I give you the information, I'm not just going to be killed and eaten then? You ask so many questions, so I assume you know nothing of my people, is what I have to say not worth my safe return to them? If all I can expect is death either way, then I shall tell you nothing."
>>46520576Call this chordates bluff, this guise of strength is his only defense, he'll be sniveling like a child once we break it
Dont roast me guys, can we develop genjustsu?
>>46520576Inject some acid in his leg, and explain he can die slowly, or quickly.And that if his answers are satisfying, it may go free, but that you're not going to free it until you know about its ability. It may try to murder you the second it's freed.
>>46520576>lets just see how well you can regenerate then muhahaha>inject him with venom
>>46520722Not venom.Acid. Some spiders use it to turn the organs of the captured bugs into liquid stuff they can drink.Let's see if he's still an arrogant obnoxious little shit once its leg melted.
>>46520755i like enzyme better
>>46520576>"Olziytomor of the Waiyashan is correct, but then we are at an impasse.">"If we let Olziytomor of the Waiyashan go we would lose food, and our children do so hunger."Try and make him believe there are hatchlings in his cocoon.
>>46520775I'd say give up with the interrogation and start psychically experimenting on it.It already proved it has no idea of its current situation, and is stupid enough to believe it can imposes its term to us, so just experiment psychic stuff on it.
>>46520790That some good psychological fucking, my demented friend
Calming it down was a mistake. We should have attempted to communicate before, while it was still panicking.
>>46520755but venom works into the bloodstream,
>>46520850But it'll kill it. We need to make it understand it cannot negociate.
btw, bump limit reached
for all the people getting it wrongpoison = for attack, for example injecting/spraying itvenom = for defence, a venomous butterfly for example cant use its venom but when other's eat it they feel its effect and thus learn not to eat that type of butterfly.
>>46520907Sorry, I had to help with laundry.Your venom is only paralytic. You have acid as an option but it is still quite slow. I'm probably going to go with this >>46520790 unless people object.
>>46520994Actually, you're getting those the wrong way around. That's why you have venomous snakes but not poisonous snakes.
>>46521020really? well, i dont remember where i got info so i guess i'll take your word for it.
>>46521020You also have naked snake, liquid snake, and solid snake.
>>46521020kek, u typed what i think. >>46521041snake venom but not snake poison?
>>46521062this guy know shit.
Should we, you know, archive this thing?
stop it, we are evil mind controlling spider
>>46520790"Don't try and fool me, there are no children," The Waiyashan replies, "Not near, at least. But if it is food you are after, then perhaps there's something that would benefit us both. You seem to have no qualms about eating me, so the Rhumailen shouldn't be a problem either. If you let me live, if you take me back to where you found me... I can tell you everything you want to know, including the location of a large base of Rhumailen. Even if you don't want to eat them, they have good stores of food, definitely some things you could make use of, no?">I will likely have to go and grab dinner soon guys. If we get this interrogation done and the turn finished in the thread, we can call it a night from then and I'll pick up the civ again at some point if people liked it.>>46521189I have no idea how to do that, but it'd be appreciated if you wanted to.
>>46521062That's cute. And I hate spiders.
>>46521399then why the hell are you here?
>>46521230>"We are intrigued. Olziytomor of the Waiyashan would sacrifice the Rhumailen to secure itself? Is this normal among the races above?"I guess we could at least trust him as far as we can throw him. If not, we simply know to consume any Waiyashan in the future.>"We will agree, hoping that Olziytomor of the Waiyashan does not dissuade our trust."Return him to where we found him and allow him to go free, though under watchful eyes.
>>46521230"Why does the Olziytormor dislike the Rhumailen so much that it would lead legions of hungry monsters towards them?"
>>46521480To see if I can post in a spider thread (hahahahahahaha) despite hating them.
>>46521230"If you are so scared of us, why would you lead us to your foe? What motivates your hatred of them?"Also, I suggest playing along and hide our powerlevel.
>>46521520>tfw you hate spiders but you do it for civ
>>46521080Hence why you eat snakes but throw frogs at things you want dead.
>>46521498As you return him, he fills you in on the machinations of those who live on the surface. Well, and those who don't. It turns out that the Waiyashan live below ground also, and within the mountains of Ardachaid, a mountain chain that runs the length of the continent. The Waiyashan have a large empire, ruled by the Eternal Emperor. For many centuries, the Rhumailen were the slaves of the empire, until recently, when they rebelled against the Waiyashan. The Waiyashan eventually relented, and allowed the Rhumailen to have their freedom, but 50 years later, the Rhumailen formed the Tailem Empire in the island chain known as the Lekhoussa, and began waging war against the Waiyashan. It also tells you that it believes you are intelligent because of something unleashed by a race known as the Neankalla. It says that the Neankalla have been meddling ever since the war broke out, and for some reason, intelligent races have begun popping up everywhere, and they believe this is due to them.Besides the Derthas, the Neankalla, the Waiyashan and the Rhumailen, there are also Drakes, but besides those, the only intelligent races are those slowly popping up here and there, who are in a state much like your own; new and still learning of the world.He said he would answer any questions you have, what else would you like to know?
>>46521230http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.htmlUnder "Add Thread" on the left. I went ahead and plugged in this thread for starters.
>>46521749You are a gentleman and a scholar, you have my thanks.
>>46521741Ask it if there's a chance you can live quietfully underground without anyone bothering you or if it's hoping too much.Don't tell you hate light, but say you're not really interested in the surface.
>>46521777The only one's who may bother you underground are the Waiyashan themselves, but besides them he doesn't seem to think there are any other races that might interfere.Besides dragons. Be careful of dragons. Especially dragons.But if you are careful not to intrude upon the Waiyashan or the dragons, you should be fine. In fact, both can be reasoned with, and both may very well strike deals with you if you are willing to be cooperative and not take their stuff.
>>46521852Do they have anything that could interest us, and do we have anything that could interest them?Basic trade, Adam Smith, capitalism, oh!
>>46521881They are a fully fledged medieval era empire (with a chinese or mongolian theme going on), and have things to trade that would be fitting of that. You on the other hand probably don't have much to offer them, yet. The Rhumailen are still in the stone age by comparison to the Waiyashan, but they have numbers and a strange affinity for runes, which the dwarfs have never been able to work out.Feel free to continue asking questions, besides this event though, you still need to decide what you wish to experiment with for this turn.
>>46521852>>46522061on the subject of capitalismwe should ask Olziytomor what the Waiyashan's would be willing to trade for high-quality spider silk/webbings.
>>46522086He will have to go and ask a superior, if you are making an official offer, and for that, you will need to meet with somebody with the authority to negotiate on behalf of the empire.
>>46522065What about silk? Could you sell some to them?>>46522152You're also willing to take their prisoners away from them.Also, ask if they know how any underground cattle. We need to be at least self-sufficient on food, should the unthinkable happen.
>>46522176Actually, yes. Silk and webbing is an option. If you want, we could start the next thread by meeting with a Waiyashan negotiator? Not now though, I'm in need of a break I think.Can we decide on what you're experimenting this turn, just to close off the round nicely before it drops off the board? Once you decide I'll need 1d100's.
>>46522249Maybe a way to shield our vision from light. Prevent it from being used against us, as well as allowing us to establish a foothold on the surface.
>>46522249I was about to vote for mind-control in order to use some of our future prisoners as ambassadors, but >>46522279 makes better sense, if not for the same goal.
>>46522279Roll 1d100, we'll see how well you do.
Rolled 41 (1d100)>>46522384
Rolled 53 (1d100)>>46522384
Rolled 43 (1d100)>>46522384
>>46522418After some hard work, one of the adult spiders manages to discover a way to alter one's body to adapt to harsh circumstances. Over time, the other spiders barter and deal with each other until the use of this ability spreads to even the hatchlings. This ability can be used to shield your eyes from the sun, currently, but if worked on further it can protect from all hostile environments, such as the heat, the cold, or the suffocating.And that concludes this round. I'm not sure when the next thread will be, as I'm at a concert with my girlfriend over the weekend and I'm not sure of my shifts next week, but when I know I'll announce it on the civ general. I hope you've all enjoyed the first thread!
Please let me know what you thought of this by the way, it being my first civ game in a long time, as well as it having some, unusual parameters.
>>46522574i have a question i should have asked earlier, how big are we?
>>46522615I'm guessing giant-sized, seeing as we wrapped that bat-dude in a cocoon with literally no trouble and almost no effort
>>46522574ultra-capitalistic giant psychic spiders? It was pretty good, and very different from the other civs.
>>46522654yes but giant sized could mean anything, a giant spider could be the size of a dog or the size of a horse, and either one would be strong enough to do what we have so far done.
>>46522615>>46522654Well, if the body in this image >>46522574 Is a large human, this is a good size comparison.>>46522675Thanks, I'm actually going to have my pathfinder party encounter these guys next week (albeit, many thousands of years down the line), so this should help.
>>46522777What is that? It looks cute. >>46522553I'll probably miss it. How annoying.
>>46522553I enjoyed it and definitely will try and be around for the second thread.Was interesting to try thinking up approaches unbiased by emotion. To simply exist as nature intended.
Reincarnation story with game mechanics to boot, the current fad in Japan. A shitty niche genre in general, but this series is one of the few good ones. Original is the web novel.http://www.mangahere.co/manga/kumo_desu_ga_nani_ka/