"...Say, Amata." In the intimacy of this moment, and considering everything, you weight carefully your chances.If you inform Amata of this, she would normally flip out. Probably get really, really mad.But maybe, considering the moment... maybe, considering the atmosphere... Maybe, just maybe, this is the best time to talk to her about it without her overreacting.You take a deep breath, cross your fingers, and start: "...There's something I need to tell you.""What's the problem? You got Tia pregnant?" she jokes, but her giggles die out pretty fast when she realizes you're not laughing with her. "...Oh gods, did you really get her-""No- no, it's not that."She relaxes. "Well, what is it then."No good way to say this. "Well... Ririth's... uh, dad. He wrote me a letter."She keeps staring at you, expressionless, but all color drains from her face."He said he can't make it to the wedding, but he gave me his best wishes.""...Ririth's dad." She mumbles."Yes. You know. Ligier."She smiles and nods calmly."Dear?""Yes?""Let's burn her and her entire room."She isn't taking this well. She isn't taking this well AT ALL.>It's a good idea.>Try and calm her down.>Explain that nothing bad happened.>Ask her what exactly is going on.>(Other?)
>Who are we?Maka, an exiled noble Exalted as a Zenith-caste Solar. Queen of Gem, now ruling the western island of Tianna. You have gathered a vast amount of allies and friends, and defeated every threat to Tianna up to now.You recently discovered that Tianna is actually an artificial island, built around a First Age Titan: an almighty flying fortress. Your forces have crushed the Bodhisattva Anointed by Dark Water, a Deathlord who tried to usurp its power for himself.Now you have built a solid power base, and worked hard to draw the attention and earn the trust of the Unconquered Sun. What will your next step be?>Solar? Zenith? I don't know Exalted...This quest is as newbie-friendly as possible, and I want it to work as a newbie's intro to Exalted. If you have ANY question, ask in thread. For the setting, google "1d4chan exalted".>Archive?http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Solar%20Quest>System?Dicepool-like system. When performing an action, everyone rolls 1d10 when posting. the first X rolls are considered, where X is equal to attribute + ability.>XP?Attributes cost [current score x5] xp. Abilities cost [current score x3] xp, except Zenith costing [(current score x3) -1]. Charms cost 10 xp, except for Zenith-based charms (related to charisma and physical/mental fortitude) which cost 8 xp. At the end of every "session" (thread) you will be presented with a list of possible acquisitions.>Twitter?@exaltedfag>Any questions?http://ask.fm/ExaltedfagNew System Info: http://pastebin.com/pvAZpsJ6Characters info (player-made): http://pastebin.com/5WnD47jpQuest in ebook format (player-made): https://www.dropbox.com/s/yxjjb8e50xs52fq/Exalted%20Quest%20-%20Threads%2001-86%20%5Bpdf%5D.rar?dl=0
>>43605634>Try and calm her down.Welcome back EF!
>Explain that nothing bad happened.>Ask her what exactly is going on.
>>43605634>Explain that nothing bad happened.>Ask her what exactly is going on.Amata, please.
>>43605634>Try and calm her down.>Explain that nothing bad happened.No witch hunts honey, it might set a precedence. She did a bad thing, but we've already scolded her for it and everything.I'm glad to see you made it EF
>>43605634>"Amata, be nice.">"If by burn her you mean seduce Malfeas' entire roster of demons, then maybe."Oh shit, it's thread 99. We need something special for the next thread.
>>43605634>>Try and calm her down.>>Ask her what exactly is going on. Sup EF? Best thing to wake up to in the morning is paranoia.
>>43605719Yeah, like a wedding.
>>43605752Or the Honeymoon
>>43605634It's not totally bad or anything, he only just knew our NAME and said he wanted to have a proper discussion with us one day.Not catastrophic at all
>>43605787What's so catastrophic about Ligier knowing our name?
>>43605634>>Explain that nothing bad happened.
>>43605805Nothing at all, like I said.It's not actually that catastrophic, but according to EF the way he wrote our name implies he knows a lot about us personally.
>>43605805I think it's just Amata's paranoia going full burn right now.
>>43605811Maka has gone very big in a very short time. Everyone is probably aware of the titan now, unless they're exactly on the other side of creation.
>>43605634>>Explain that nothing bad happened.>>Ask her what exactly is going on.oh fug i have an exam in seven hours. Priorities, priorities...
>>43605854Well Creation is flat, so EXACTLY the other side would be the literal underworld. And those guys definitely know.
>>43605863You should be studying.
>>43605854This isn't just on the level of "Hey did you hear about that tall sexy brown Solar?". This is how EF described the name on his ask:>Conceptual is different, and it's something that you can do only in Old Realm. Basically, if you know someone or something well enouh, you write a single symbol that encompasses their entire being, in a manner akin to a "true name". Everyone reading it understand who it's referring to, even if they never met that person, and everyone writing it will write it in the same way (unless they write it wrong, of course, but there's a right and a wrong way to write it). Yes, it's a magical aspect of reality, probably hardcoded in the universe by the Exalted in the First Age. >That's going to be translated in english as all caps.
You try and keep her pinned to the bed and prevent her from just running outside. "No! Wait! Wait! Look, nothing happened! He just said that he's not going to come! So..."She struggles a bit against you, then gives you a death glare. "How does he know?"You hesitate. "Uh...""How does he know so much about us? How can he even deliver a letter to Creation?""Through Ririth-""Exactly! I suspected as much, but I had no way to test it. But... Ririth is basically a huge walking portal to Malfeas. We can't let her cause damage to Creation!"You sigh. "...She's not THAT huge."She seems to be slowly calming down. "...Alright, maybe she isn't, but she's a point of connection to Malfeas, and that's bad. We sealed them in another dimension for a good damn reason, Maka."You nod. "I know. It's just that, well... neither Ririth nor her father seem... you know, evil."She sighs. "...Well, demons aren't evil, or to be more accurate, aren't willfully evil. They act according to their own... morals? Sort of. They're nothing like the morals of anything existing in Creation. A lot of what is perfectly natural for them is shockingly evil for us. So... they're not ABSOLUTE evil, but they're dangerous and nasty for Creation.""You summon them all the time." You point out."But I don't like that. And I keep them bound and controlled. Ririth is... she's just a loose cannon.""Isn't that a good reason to keep her under control? I mean, she might be a point of contact with Malfeas, but she's not a bad person. She's been very kind and helpful. We can't just... like, kill her."She smiles without humour. "...You have no idea of how many horrible things I've had to do at good people in order to keep Creation safe." She says all of sudden, looking through you.(cont.)
"Are you calling me naive?" You reply."...No. Not really. Just... you're the one you should be. You're the Zenith. You're a paragon, an example, a leader, and a moral compass for everyone." She giggles. "Though your own sense of morals has some screws loose sometime." She breathes in deeply. "...Alright. I... I probably overreacted. I don't like this at all, but I'll trust your judgement. But if at some point in the future a third-circle demon rips her open and uses her to step into Creation, you'll be the one who has to deal with it.""Well, with the fact that she's Ligier's daughter, I don't think any demon would do that." You point out."Except maybe Ligier." Amata mumbles, nestling next to you.Those words hang ominously in the air."...Oh, and Ligier called me MAKA." You say, using your own name in Old Realm, tracing it with a finger in the blankets. "Is this..."She groans. "...Conceptual Naming. Great. He's been keeping his eyes on you pretty well.""What's that about?" You wonder. "That symbol looked familiar, even though I've never seen it before.""It's a trick of Old Realm calligraphy. If you're really good, you can write someone's name in a way that everyone will recognize it." She explains. "If you showed this symbol to a scholar from the other side of Creation, who knows Old Realm but has never heard of you, he'd... well, he'd know you. The symbol contains sort of a simple description of yourself, that triggers automatically in the mind of whoever reads it." She explains. "In the First Age, Solars used this to make themselves known even to the masses of mortals who would otherwise have no chance to meet them in person. Also... some charms and magical effects connected to your person can be triggered by the Conceptual Name as well."(cont.)
You think about it for a second. "...But I already know myself. I mean, philosophical "does anyone really know himself" conundrums aside. Why would he use Conceptual Naming on a letter addressed to me?""To let you know that he's been watching you." Amata rolls her eyes. "I guess we'll have to keep that into account."You groan, roll in the blankets a bit, and suddenly realize you've been in Amata's bed all this time.You glance around. What about the desk? You're not even in her office anymore, this is her bedroom. Weren't you in her office when you started- You meet Amata's smug gaze, who has apparently noticed your confusion and is enjoying every second of it.>How's the wedding planning coming along?>I wanted to talk to you about our future plans for the Titan.>I wanted to talk to you about our future plans for the Abyssals.>How's Valeriana's work coming along?>You know, I was wondering about your other kids, other than Samiel and Irene...>(Other?)
>>43605997>The symbol contains sort of a simple description of yourselfSo...what description does MAKA have? Actually, make that a vote.>So...what description does MAKA have?>You know, I was wondering about your other kids, other than Samiel and Irene...>And...do you want to have babies with me too? or Tia?
>>43605997>>How's the wedding planning coming along?Not gonna lie, smug Amata is cute
>>43605997>>How's the wedding planning coming along?>How's Valeriana's work coming along?>>43605874i could stress out more, or i could relax
>>43605997>>How's the wedding planning coming along?
>>43605997>Can we engrave the word MAKA on our coins?
>>43605997>How's the wedding planning coming along?>You know, I was wondering about your other kids, other than Samiel and Irene...
>>43605997>>How's Valeriana's work coming along?>You know, I was wondering about your other kids, other than Samiel and Irene...Now the question is, was this Sidereal shenanigans or was Amata so good Maka blacked out during the trip to the room.Amata a qt.>>43606014>getting Amata pregnant>being pregnant with Amata's kidsDecisions, decisions.
>>43605997>So...what description does MAKA have?>Can we engrave the word MAKA on our coins? Or is there any downside to using the conceptual name?>How's Valeriana's work coming along?>And...do you want to have babies with me too? or Tia?
>>43606050why not both?
>>43606014>or Tia?I wonder if she'd want to, I mean I don't think she hates Tia, but Amata is marrying Maka, if she's going to have anyone's babies it would be ours.The question is how do we get her pregnant.
>>43606014You don't have to ask that, it's quite obvious to you just by reading it and thinking about it. But it's not something you can put in words.It gives whoever reads it an idea of what the person is like. Physically, but also a as far as their personality and character goes, and a bit of their history.Think of a level of familiarity somewhere around "passing acquaintance". That's what is contained in the symbol.
>>43606071>double pregnantThat would be cute.Unless you were talking about the sex, in which case, lewd.
>>43606122I know the characters know it, I was more concerned in having that info passed to us, the players. Sure, we can probably guess "Hottest woman ever with a shitload of compassion and really, really tough. Also, nobility and has enough tits for everyone." or something, but it's nice when the exact thing is passed to us.
"...What if we wrote that name on our coins as well?"She gives you an odd look. "...Why? Don't tell me that you have a Charm that affects people even without you being there-"She groans noticing your arrogant grin in reply and quietly facepalms. "You're terrifying.""I know." You reply, flattered."...Well, it would be useful only with people who know Old Realm. Who are a very small minority nowadays. It was practical in the days of the Old Realm, but it isn't nowadays. The idea of using just your face on the coin is a lot better.""Can't we use both?""The symbol would need to take a lot of place to be large enough to be readable, and if you wanted to put your face on one side and the symbol on the other you'd have to get rid of the symbol of the Unconquered Sun, and that would probably make Pyre Spark mad." She notes, half-joking."I see." You mumble. "Say, there was another thing I wanted to ask you...""Go ahead." She invites you."It's about your kids.""Samiel and Irene?""The others." She pauses for a moment."You have other children, but I only ever saw Samiel and Irene. I understand that they're adopted as part of your cover story, but I was wondering...""Well, no sense in keeping the charade up." She interrupts you. "There's just Samiel and Irene."That takes you by surprise. "But... I thought-""Yeah, it's common knowledge that the Queen of Tianna has other children who failed to Exalt and are working in the city's army, administration, or so on. And yet, you never met them." She smiles. "No one did. It's just a rumor. They don't really exist. I adopted Samiel and Irene as part of my cover, but people would get suspicious about the cover if this Lost Egg queen, without any particularly impressive lineage, managed to have both her kids Exalt without having any unexalted children.""...They don't exist?" You frown. "All this time I was..."(cont.)
"It was all lies, trickery, misdirection and propaganda." She grins. "Far easier than taking care of real kids, and dealing with all the overcomplication to my cover story that they would cause. Every extra person added to a cover is an additional point of failure, after all.""I'm amazed.""Thank you.""That wasn't a compliment." You roll your eyes. "Are you really marrying me, or is that a lie as well?"She kisses your cheek. "That's real.""You could be lying right now, though.""Absolutely." She grins.You groan. "...Is the ceremony ready, in any case?""Almost." Amata points out. "Getting the last few things ready. You won't have to worry about a thing. I'm having a lot of fun planning it, actually. It's going to be full of surprises.""It should be a happy day. Don't make me dread it." You joke."Where would I get my kicks from, then?">I wanted to talk to you about our future plans for the Titan.>I wanted to talk to you about our future plans for the Abyssals.>I wanted to talk to you about our future plans for Gem.>How's Valeriana's work coming along?>I should go, I wanted to have a talk with (who?)>(Other?)>(Fast-forward to the wedding)
>>43606284>>(Fast-forward to the wedding)
>>43606284>>How's Valeriana's work coming along?followed by >(Fast-forward to the wedding)
>>43606219>"...Why? Don't tell me that you have a Charm that affects people even without you being there-">She groans noticing your arrogant grin in reply and quietly facepalms. "You're terrifying.">"I know." You reply, flattered.She seems to be taking this relatively well. Good to know the Solar Socialing has taken affect already.
>>43606284>I wanted to talk to you about our future plans for Gem.>How's Valeriana's work coming along?>When we have your biological kids, who's going to carry the babies?>We ARE having kids.
>>43606284>>How's Valeriana's work coming along?And ask about the Titan in general, I wonder if they've found our hidden stash of Mountain Folk
>>43606309>When we have your biological kids, who's going to carry the babies?>We ARE having kids.I don't mind being the one to carry, but if we do we'll have to wait at least a year for us to have Tia's.
>>43606331It's still a good idea to prepare for it early.
>>43606284>How's Valeriana's work coming along?>Having kids>Mountain Folk/TitanI'm glad they weren't real in the end, it was kind of bad that we hadn't met her mortal kids until right before we were going to marry Amata.
>>43606284>I wanted to talk to you about our future plans for the Titan.
>>43606284>>How's Valeriana's work coming along?
"So, how's Valeriana's work coming along?""She's a bit stressed out." Amata mumbles as she idly combs her fingers through your hair. "Lots of things to do, and lots of things on her mind. What with all the damage and whatnot.""...Yeah, I know. We're really asking a lot of her.""She's the best civil engineer I've ever met. Heck, probably the best civil engineer in the West at this point. And she has a lot of grandiose projects, and now she might even have the means to accomplish them, but she has to put them aside and work on just repairing damage from the battle and earthquake." She continues. "I think that that's the reason she's working so hard and so fast, even though it's something that doesn't interest her. She wants to get all this busywork out of the way.""So she can go back to work to what she likes?""Yes, I think so." Amata nods."...How did she take the news that I intend to make the Titan fly again someday? My promise to Flame?""...In stride." She replies. "She had already a lot of plans for Tianna that required the island to stay an island...""Yeah. I saw them. That's why I was asking, I'm worried she might be mad at me."Amata scratches her head. "...Mmmmaybe she was a LITTLE BIT mad, but just a bit, and just for a day or so. I think she already has some ideas on Tianna and the Titan herself, but she's kind of hard to approach these days. She's working so hard, but she doesn't talk with anyone.""...Should I go and see her?""I think the best thing we can do is let her work and leave her alone. She'll show up at the wedding and by then everything will be finished. I think she's deep into something and doesn't look like she'd appreciate being disturbed. You know, one of those creative trances.""I think I know." You nod. "...I hope she'll be there for the wedding. I'd hate for her to miss it.""I don't think she will. She was very clear on wanting to get everything done by then."(cont.)
You roll a bit in the blanket, pensive. You let your hands idly caress your stomach."Amata?""Yes?""Would you have my kids?"The question seems to catch her by surprise for a moment, but just a moment, Then, her expression softens in perhaps one of the few times you've seen a genuine, honest, kind smile on her face."Yes." She replies. No doubts, no questions, not even the obvious one. So much so that for a moment you suspect she must have misunderstood what you just said.No, she didn't, a second glance into her star-strewn eyes tells you. She knows exactly what you meant."...Thank you."You spend a few more minutes of silence together, cuddling under the blankets.>Talk about the Abyssals.>Talk about Gem.>Once you're done, leave to talk to someone else (who?)>(Other?)>(Fast-forward to the wedding)
>>43606589>Talk about the Abyssals.
>>43606589>Talk about Gem.>And ruling a big portion of creation, if not all of it>Why can't we not go to Yu-shan? I want to meet Him.
>>43606589>>(Fast-forward to the wedding)
>>43606589>When are you going to show Tia your sweet moves?>When are you going to teach them to me?
>>43606589>>Talk about Gem.Might as well bring it up.Fug we sent Alexei to bug Val about the spell.
>>43606589>(Fast-forward to the wedding)
>>43606589>>Talk about Gem.>>(Fast-forward to the wedding)>The question seems to catch her by surprise for a moment, but just a moment, Then, her expression softens in perhaps one of the few times you've seen a genuine, honest, kind smile on her face.I fucking love you Amata
>>Talk about Gem.>>(Fast-forward to the wedding)
>>43606589>>Talk about Gem.>>(Fast-forward to the wedding)
>>43606589>Why can't we not go to Yu-shan? I want to meet Him.>We are at least inviting him, right?
>>43606744>>We are at least inviting him, right?Of course we are, he can bring Venus. It will be good for both of them to get out of the house.
>>43606744We know why, Amata is already in a lot of trouble for allowing us to take over the Titan, enough to get jailed so she made a promise to keep us out of Yu-Shan for the time being. Which we'll totally disregard when the time comes and stop them from arresting our wife.
"...What are you thinking about?" After a few minutes more, she asks, noticing your frowning gaze fixed to the ceiling."...mom and dad. And my little sister. I wonder if they're alright. Where they are.""I heard from Aexel that you've assembled a team to head over to Gem and scout the place.""Yes. They're due to head there just after the wedding. Should be there in three days." You reply. "I'm worried about what they'll find out.""No sense worrying before you even know anything." She smiles, trying to cheer you up. "Worry once they report back.""...What if they're dead, and I'll learn that, if only I acted faster, I could have saved them?""Why would they be dead now? Rankar either had them killed immediately after his coup, in which case there'd be nothing you could do, or kept them alive, in which case he wouldn't have a reason to have them killed later."That line of reasoning is perfectly logical, but so cold and political it gives you the shivers. Amata is right on both counts: They're either long dead or still alive, and, if so, you don't want to think about it right now. You have nothing and know nothing. You're just tormenting yourself."Now think of something else." She suggests."Alright." You nod. "Yu-Shan.""Yu-Shan." She clearly regrets her last statement."Why wouldn't you let me go there?""Two good reasons. First, it would be a huge headache for me.""Be serious.""I AM serious. Second, there are people there who want you dead."That last word shuts you up. You listen."And they have the power and the means to make that happen, believe me. You are a prime target for assassination right now. Maybe one of the top targets in all of Creation. In this exact moment, in Heaven, there are people whose day job is to come up with the best plan to assassinate you."A shiver goes down your spine.(cont.)
>>43606792And why can't Maka and the other solars go?
"There are also people whose day job is to find ways to keep you alive. And then there's me." She proclaims. "I made a deal with them. I will not let you go to Yu Shan. In exchange, they are going to stay put.""Sounds like a shaky agreement.""Very." She replies.You get the feeling it's not all there is to it."But it'll buy us time.""Time to do what?"She makes a hand-wavey motion. "The less you know about celestial politics, the better. Trust me on this one. Don't get involved with this mess. Leave it to me. Just focus on being Maka.""I'm quite good at that." You grin, rolling over her and pinning her down to the bed."Oh, look who's alive again." She replies, sounding duly impressed. "Second round?""Second round." (cont.)
>>43606810If we went to Yu Shan with Mikahil we'd be protected by Eclipse diplomatic immunity.....but that doesn't mean jack shit if kejak's cronies decide to murder us anyway and damn the high Severity crimes they'd commit in doing so.
>>43606848>"Second round."Fuck yeah!
>>43606855Though Eclipse Diplomatic Immunity only protects us against the Gods themselves if we have official business in Yu-Shan. It does not apply to the Sidereals themselves.But you are right in that the high Severity crimes would deter them, at least somewhat.
This would be a good-ish time to fast forward to the day of the wedding. You talked to pretty much everyone who had anything to say at this point, and made a lot of arrangements and plans.It would be a 12-day skip. It's assumed that Maka keeps training the Steelshard Mercenaries, managing Pearl, and handling a daily routine.If you don't want this timeskip, say so replying to this message and say what you'd like Maka to do (played out), instead.Otherwise, feel free to say if there are things you want Maka to work towards or to try and do during this timeskip (keeping in mind that she can't use Tiger Warrior Training).You also gain 2 XP for the passing of time, putting you at 14 XP, and can spend XP if you want. I'll write down your available charms in a second, but feel free to ask for specific charms, or for any custom charm you can think of.
>>43606916In the timeskip Maka should beg to learn the ways of Space Sex from Amata the only way she knows how.Maybe if she learns a bit we can surprise Tia on the honeymoon with it.
>>43606916If we have the XP for it I'd like Shining Ruler's Benevolence from EclipseAs for what to do, beyond managing Pearl and stuff I'd like to see if we can ask Zaan about trying to Enlighten some mortals with Silk's help.
>>43606932Knowing a Chosen of Serenity, she probably uses Celestial Bliss Trick with some regularity. Alas, that's Siddy Astrology, and not something a Solar can access. Maka will never know Amata's Space Sex Goddess ways.
>>43606916>>43606932>>43606951We should talk to Amata about Sidereal Martial Arts. Though I'm not sure we have the knowledge needed to be the one to initiate that conversation.
>>43606963Well we saw her and Lotus do weird shit beneath the Titan, but honestly I've never been a huge fan of SMAs. I'd much rather go deeper into Solar Hero Style.>>43606945>Zaan about trying to Enlighten some mortals with Silk's help.I'll second that though, maybe we can test it out with our pirate captains after clearing it with Zaan.
>>43606916We need to tease Tia over this time, gradually increasing the difficulty.We also need to tease Samiel, Irene, Valeriana, Millian, Ririth, and, well, everyone else. Except Flame. She's too estranged for this right now.
DAWN:SHOCKWAVE FIST TECHNIQUE: (1B) An unarmed attack can be carried out at a range of [Phys+Dawn]x10 meters.SUMMONING THE LOYAL STEEL: (Perm.) Can call any owned but unwielded weapon back to your hands. Can store up to [Physical] owned weapons in a pocket dimension. If disarmed, you can call it back to your hand with enough force to defeat wooden doors and iron chains.REGIMENT-SLAYING STRIKE: (3B) Allows you to attack an entire crowd, mob or military unit with one attack.MOB-DISPERSING REBUKE: (3B) Roll Social + Dawn. Unless a unit has a heroic leader who can beat your roll, it immediately routs and disperses.ZENITH:TRANSCENDENT HERO'S MEDITATION: (1C) +3d to your Social Defense pool for the scene.MOUNTAIN'S ENDURANCE: (1C) +3d to endurance rolls for the scene (2B): +3d to one endurance roll.HEART-COMPELLING METHOD: (upgrades Inspired Performance Style: on top of its effect, all social attacks have 1 automatic success).TERRIFYING GLORIOUS PRESENCE: (upgrades Majestic Radiant Presence: on top of its effect, all social attacks have 1 automatic success).OX-BODY TECHNIQUE: (Perm.) +2 Health Levels. Can be bought multiple times.(cont.)
>>43606951I dunno, the way Amata rocked Maka's world seemed like it was just her being good at sex and not using a magic fix.We must learn from the real master here.
TWILIGHT:STANCE OF THE MAGISTRATE: (1C) +3d to investigation rolls for the scene (2B): +3d to one investigation roll.LORE-MASTER'S GAZE: (1C) +3d to knowledge rolls for the scene (2B): +3d to one knowledge roll.BRILLIANT MANDALA COMPREHENSION: (1C) +3d to occult rolls for the scene (2B): +3d to one occult roll.NIGHT:CELESTIAL MIGHT: (1C) +3d to athletics rolls for the scene (2B): +3d to one athletics roll.THUNDERBOLT ATTACK PRANA: (2B) +3 damage to your attack in a fight if you charge, run or leap into battle.LIGHTNING SPEED: (Perm.) Double your base dashing speed. (1C) Triple it for the scene, instead.ECLIPSE:SHINING RULER'S BENEVOLENCE: (1C) +3d to politics rolls for the scene (2B): +3d to one politics roll.MASTER OF LETTERS: (1C) +3d to linguistics rolls for the scene (2B): +3d to one linguistics roll.SEA WOLF STYLE: (1C) +3d to sailing rolls for the scene (2B): +3d to one sailing roll.
>>43607019>SHINING RULER'S BENEVOLENCE: (1C) +3d to politics rolls for the scene (2B): +3d to one politics roll.Get that Queen of Creation face going
>>43607000>MOB-DISPERSING REBUKE: (3B) Roll Social + Dawn. Unless a unit has a heroic leader who can beat your roll, it immediately routs and disperses.and>OX-BODY TECHNIQUE: (Perm.) +2 Health Levels. Can be bought multiple times.Question: in a PnP game, do you also allow to take more than one type of exalted? Or is it just for this quest?
>>43607019>SHINING RULER'S BENEVOLENCE: (1C) +3d to politics rolls for the scene (2B): +3d to one politics roll.
>>43607019>LIGHTNING SPEED: (Perm.) Double your base dashing speed. (1C) Triple it for the scene, instead.
>>43607031My Exalted PnP games have always been total clusterfucks. I've had people play mixed parties of solars, lunars, abyssals, DBs and alchemicals. And it was glorious.
>>43607000>HEART-COMPELLING METHOD: (upgrades Inspired Performance Style: on top of its effect, all social attacks have 1 automatic success)Add this to the XP, if possible. Another plushie...sort of.
>>43607019>SHINING RULER'S BENEVOLENCE: (1C) +3d to politics rolls for the scene (2B): +3d to one politics roll.>>43607031We don't have enough for both of those, Zenith charms cost 8XP and Dawn/Twilight/Eclipse/Night costs 10XP
>>43607056Fun before rules, I dig it!If we can only take one, I'll vote for >OX-BODY TECHNIQUE: (Perm.) +2 Health Levels. Can be bought multiple times.
>>43607058I'd hug and cuddle that all night long.>>43607019THUNDERBOLT ATTACK PRANA: (2B) +3 damage to your attack in a fight if you charge, run or leap into battle.
>>43607058That's a cute Maka
>>43607058>Not a sex dollIt's still cute, even if surprisingly chaste.
>>43605637>Characters info (player-made): http://pastebin.com/5WnD47jp>Quest in ebook format (player-made): https://www.dropbox.com/s/yxjjb8e50xs52fq/Exalted%20Quest%20-%20Threads%2001-86%20%5Bpdf%5D.rar?dl=0These things are way outdated.
>>43607000>HEART-COMPELLING METHOD: (upgrades Inspired Performance Style: on top of its effect, all social attacks have 1 automatic success).
>>43607159Are there more recent versions? I might've missed them if so. Post the links here and I'll update them.
>>43606916I'm not really sure there is much to do, I want to see if we can get to awakening some mortals, working on Pearl, but I'm not sure if there's anything else we need. I guess we can check up on Alexei and see how the spell is coming along at some point.
>>43606916>>43607231Don't forget Silk's tour around the island too.I guess we can spend some time with our cult too, we've only prayed with them the one time, we can do it a few more times during the timeskip
>>43606916Let's also spend some time in Tianna so we can spread around Horizon-to-Horizon, we can help out here as well as Pearl
>>43606916Sneaky Maka Operations, where she goes undercover and listens to the people's thoughts of her, Tianna and things in general.
>>43606916>>43607269>>43607279These two are good, don't be ignoring Tianna now that we have pearl up and running, but I'll second spending time with our Cult too.
>>43607279Definitely want to get Radiant's help on that one so we have a perfect disguise
>>43606916Maka serving as a model for God fashion.Persuade Amata to invite Ligier to the wedding. She can use as many failsaefs as needed to ensure nothing will be fucked up by him.
>>43606916We should also check up on the Abyssals at some point, see if they got everything or if they need any help
>>43607361Ligiers letter told us that he couldn't come to the wedding
>>43607474Because of the whole "Sealed in Malfeas" issue. Ririth said we wouldn't be able to summon him, making it impossible for him to come.
>>43607407Also invite them to summer camp.Doubt they'd come, but it would be rude not to make the offer.
have a fanart
>HEART-COMPELLING METHOD: (upgrades Inspired Performance Style: on top of its effect, all social attacks have 1 automatic success).
>>43607559For something to use against other Social monsters what we really want is TGP, that's the one-on-one charm.IPS/HCM is for big speeches and showy dances. And Sex too I guess, but with HSDD and RLSS I'd put TGP at a higher priority.
>>43606540>I think she already has some ideas on Tianna and the Titan herself,That's good.I've been thinking, keeping most of the island attached to the Titan will require lots of pilings to be driven down (or up?) through most of the land. Most could be made of simple rock, volcanic or otherwise with the help of flame. Those along the outer edge will require reinforcement with orichalcum. Maybe even retaining walls of orichalcum. For the interior regions of the island I wonder if it would be possible to use some of the pilings to help build up terraced farmland?
>>43607565That's cute, is that Milly?
Your timeskip in short:>>43606932Amata coaches you in the arcane secrets of Space Sex, but only up to Initiate rank. (that's how she explains it at least).>>43606945Zaan tells you he'll research methods to Enlighten mortals, but it might take a while to hit on a formula that works without bad side effects.>>43606963Amata smiles mysteriously.>>43606994You tease a lot of people.There is an incident where you thought that you finally got Tia to cave in and ravish you good, but it was actually Millian wearing a Tia mask and her clothes and you only realized afterwards. Apparently this was Tia's idea. She got you good this time.>>43607231Aexel managed to learn the spell from Valeriana. He says getting her to put in the time required to teach him was harder than actually learning.>>43607252Silk did her trip, and drained the Demesnes all around the island. When you see her again, she has grown in power perceptibly. You kind of wonder if you did the right thing: now she's extremely powerful, even for a Fae locked into Creation. All that Essence plus the fact that she's surrounded by so many Exalted and can feed on such powerful stories and emotions, plus the increasing population of Pearl, make her probably one of the most powerful creation-bound Raksha of the east.Background Familiar +1.>>43607252Your cult's growth has slowed down a bit from its explosive beginnings. It's still expanding, but it will take time for it to be a meaningful growth. Still, you and Pyre Spark keep working on it. It's become the island's main religion, although not the only one. The few remaining Immaculates have converted, left, or gone more or less underground.>>43607269Pearl grows rapidly as many refugees from the earthquake-stricken Tianna move over, thanks also to Mikahil establishing policies with incentives for people settling in the "new" western Tianna. You do some public speeches and apparitions, as well.(cont.)
>>43607632>There is an incident where you thought that you finally got Tia to cave in and ravish you good, but it was actually Millian wearing a Tia mask and her clothes and you only realized afterwards. Apparently this was Tia's idea. She got you good this time.Yes, totally. We "fell for it" completely.
>>43607632>Background Familiar +1.Hmm
>>43607670God DAMN it my usual hangup strikes again. It was Radiant, nor Millian (of course, Millian could never pull that off).Sorry, I keep mixing up the two (I explained why on the ask.fm).
>>43607632>it was actually Millian wearing a Tia mask and her clothes and you only realized afterwards.That's an impressive disguise if nothing else, but now that means we can totally ravish Regis.Get ready Butler-kun, we're going to be taking our honeymoon present from you
>>43607632>Millian wearing a Tia mask and her clothes and you only realized afterwardsSHE'S EVERYWHEREHOW DOES SHE DO IT?
>>43607702No, no, it's fine. It's perfectly.In fact, it's even better if it's Millian. Just imagine, the little maid dressing in an oversized Tia costume and with a silly mask, and Maka just botching her perception rolls one after the other.
>>43607731Sometimes being the bimbo is fun
>>43607702...can't we keep Millian? I will get a drawing for it, or write something, if needed.
>>43607632>Initiate rankWait did we actually learn Sexy Space Magic?
>>43607784Would Amata lie to us?
>>43607784>Amata smiles mysteriously.Could be.
>>43607279With Radiant's help, you enact Sneaky Maka Operation. It's quite hard to disguise yourself effectively, but Radiant's a pro, and with her help you manage to pull it off convincingly.Overall, the opinion people have of you is generally extremely positive, though not unanimously. There are a variety of objections:1) Maka is going to get us involved against the Realm, or Skullstone, and get us dragged in more wars.2) Maka is a goddamn sex addict and thus dangerous and immoral. Also the facts of Dancing Smoke's Festival are still remembered, and it seems that whole event had some negative long-term effects. Cases of depressive behavior, divorces, even two suicides. 3) Queen Amata was doing a perfectly good job and then she got seduced by this stranger from a distant country who doesn't know how we do things here.Your approval rating is higher in Pearl and lower in Tianna City, but that's probably because the people moving to pearl are those who are more okay with you.Generally, this means that, as Pearl gets settled, there are more people willing to work for you.Background Followers +1.>>43607407The Abyssal received what they asked for (all the captured Soulsteel, two ships and one warstrider) and moved over to the Underworld side of Tianna. They informed you that if you'll ever need them, the spot where the Dark Omen was destroyed will remain a Shadowland for a few years unless actively purified, so you could contact them from there. A crew of workers is carefully disassembling the wreck for usable parts (working only during the day and under Exalted supervision). The area has been fenced to prevent people wandering into the Shadowland by accident.>>43607561They thank you for the offer, but refuse saying that they'll probably be busy.>>43607784No. It's just Amata pulling your leg. Though she DID teach you a few tricks born from her centuries of lesbianing experience, there's nothing magical involved.That you can tell.(cont.)
>>43607830Well 2 ain't really wrong.
>>43607891Could be worse. Overall, it's not that bad.
>>43607830>1) Maka is going to get us involved against the Realm, or Skullstone, and get us dragged in more wars.>2) Maka is a goddamn sex addict and thus dangerous and immoral. Also the facts of Dancing Smoke's Festival are still remembered, and it seems that whole event had some negative long-term effects. Cases of depressive behavior, divorces, even two suicides. >3) Queen Amata was doing a perfectly good job and then she got seduced by this stranger from a distant country who doesn't know how we do things here.These are all pretty valid concerns and number 2 is pretty sad to hear about, if not totally unexpected I suppose, we've been doing a sorta decent-ish job of keeping that down, but I mean, we still dress super sexy so we haven't really stopped all together.Number 1 is right, we are going to get the people involved with them, we have pretty righteous reasons concerning Skullstone and the Realm is the one going to be bugging us, but it still our subjects that are going to suffer because of it, the least we can do is make it all worth it, make Tianna a kingdom to be proud of.Number 3 is not wrong really, things we're okay-ish before we came and we don't really know a lot about the West, but they would have been attacked with or without us, we exalted because the Tyrant first attacked, so not entirely right either.
>>43607830>2) Maka is a goddamn sex addict and thus dangerous and immoral. Also the facts of Dancing Smoke's Festival are still remembered, and it seems that whole event had some negative long-term effects. Cases of depressive behavior, divorces, even two suicides.
>>43607958It's only going to get uglier the more we play like a bitch.
>>43607973Well it would be out of character not to.
>>43607990No, it wouldn't.Maka should have standards. What we do dictates what she does.
>>43607973Your definition of Bitch is very loose... That was also a shit ton of threads ago.
>>43607973It's not like we've had any city-wide orgies since then. Relax.
>>43607973It's nothing to worry about.
>>43607997>What we do dictates what she does.And that's why it would be out of character not to.
>>43607997Hellow, newfag. How many threads did you skip so you could comment here?
>>43607997Like we have been doing since then?I'm not saying don't worry about it, but we have been working on that.
Other things that happen, in short:Tianna's armed forces are being restructured, reorganized, and increased in size. Karas takes active part in this. He mentions to you that he's working to attain Tiger Warrior Training Technique, and is going through Amata and Samiel's collection of books and treatises on military strategy, tactics and logistics.He says he intends to create and train an elite combat unit, as soon as he can find the right candidates and Valeriana can take her time to work on the Vodak suits and convert them back to Ashigaru, taking the soulsteel out and whatnot.He also says that he looked into having another Warstrider or two made by dismantling and reassembling the core components of the Skullstonian units. As soon as Valeriana can look into that.The navy is in stand by, in the process of being scrapped and replaced by the ships captured from Skullstone. As soon as Valeriana can spare the time to work on them.Mysteriously, Glorious Tide doesn't show up again. You're too busy to go and check with the sea spirits, though, and Amata makes sure to keep you too busy to go and check on them, instead saying that she'll take care of them. You suspect she has her own business with them.You brief the Gem Scout Mission on the city and everything they need to know. They're ready to leave right after the wedding ceremony.As soon as Mikahil's gold currency starts to spread across the West, the fame of Tianna as a rich land of opportunities begins to outweigh the fame of Tianna as a cursed island plagued by Anathema. Immigration starts to soar.(cont.)
>>43608004That's what the people thought when I brought it up a few threads back, then we discover the consequences.>>43608013 >>43608030Another step forward would be to dress less revealing.
>>43607997Define standards. And what you are proposing is very likely opposite to Maka's character. She's not banging random people right and left (much to my disappointmet), any more (or less, rather) is OOC.
>>43608047>dress less revealing You just went full retard
>>43608047>Another step forward would be to dress less revealing.No.
>>43608047No, that would be a step backward.
>>43608047It's still nothing to worry about.
>>43608047>Another step forward would be to dress less revealingNever.
>>43608062Only exalted, people with political power and special exceptions (Pyre and Silk).>>43608073We'll see about that.
>>43608047No one is saying nothing bad came of it, we knew that like almost as soon as it happened, if not just how bad things were, but we have taken steps since then to deal with it and prevent another incident.There's nothing we can do about the orgy now except to keep doing what we've done since.
>>43607937>>43607997Just to be sure: you do know this event was a Limit Break, right?
>>43608085So keep doing what we're already doing then?
>>43608032>As soon as Valeriana canPoor Val. I get the feeling she's going to become a mantra, like "If God wills it.">>43608047>Another step forward would be to dress less revealing.Why do you hate Maka? Do you want another MC?
>>43608089Yes.>>43608088 >>43608102Taking a few more safety measures would be good. Just to avoid hitting the Limit break again.
>>43608085>We'll see about that.A thing that could potentially happen that would be so bad it would completely outweigh upending Maka's character would be... what? Not seeing it. The only thing I can see happen is you get a bit more disappointed. To which I can say: Nothing to worry about.
>>43607019SHINING RULER'S BENEVOLENCE: (1C) +3d to politics rolls for the scene (2B): +3d to one politics roll.Just got here. Have you come to a decision yet EF?
>>43608119And you do know that a Limit Break is an exceptional event which is basicaly "the worst of the Solar, magnified to its logical perfection", right?>Taking a few more safety measures would be good. Just to avoid hitting the Limit break again.... Yeah, I don't think you know what a Limit Break is.
>>43608119You are either delusional or a fool. The Curse works in multiple forms and will always find a way. Sacrificing a big and beautiful side of Maka just because you're scared is not something I can ever support.
(brief AFK. be nice, people.)
>>43608148>>43608145>>43608133I'll bide my time. Can't wait to use that gif again.
>>43608119That's not how it works. >>43608159Don't worry, we won't go overboard with this. Unless that anon insists on being wrong.
>>43608119There is absolutely nothing wrong with dressing and being sexy, there's a difference between enjoying something and indulging in it, there are some outfits I would vote against for going too far. In fact a good portion of our clothes aren't that revealing but are still really sexy.
>>43608201You're right, only half of them are revealing.
>>43608168It doesn't matter what happens, the only person you'll convince is yourself. You'll use the gif, whine some more, and everyone else will still tell you they disagree with your proposed reinterpretation of the MC of this quest. Because they happen to like the MC.If you don't like Maka, then I don't know why you're here. It's not like she's changed much in ages.
>>43608159We're just dismissing a dumb opinion. Ain't nothing to worry about boss
>>43608148Not to mention that it's a rumor from people who don't like Maka, not cold hard factEven if it's true, sad as it is, Maka's Limit Break probably only caused already existing problems to get worse. Heck, divorces, depressions and suicides are things that happens because of dozens of factors. For all we know the invading army of undead monstrosities could have been a bigger reason for those things to happen.
>>43608201You must have hated our dance to the Sun>>43608239The last time we had a Limit Break, it was largely because we had to deal with obnoxious people who kept telling Maka she couldn't talk to their leader.If anything, denying who they are is more harmful to Solars
>>43608268I mean I voted for the Sun Priestess-to-naked choice, but I wasn't mad or anything.What kind of person would hate Sempai thanking us
>>43608268Yes, and it was a good scene, IMO.In retrospect, I could have worded that a little better. I don't really want to approve of the Wronganon's behavior, even if I want more limit breaks.
>>43608268Speaking of this, is there anything we were thinking of doing with Fleur?I mean, she was pretty broken, or at least shaken, by the Tyrant's death, right?We should probably help her.
Did we come to a decision on the charm? I'd like to know in case we need the charm purchased for a roll.
>>4360830010 XP was spent, so one of the not!Zenith charms
>>43608294What I liked in this scene was that Tia told Maka what was needed to get her out of it. To me, it really shows how she cares for Maka herself and not just because she's her mate.
>>43608296Give her time to grieve maybe calm down some. There actually is something I want to do for her, in regards to her Whispers there's a necromancy spell that can turn them off for a whlie, if she or one of her circlemates can learn it she'll be free of them as long as she can keep it on/keep casting it
>>43607535Oh, he could be summoned.You'd just have to have the wedding in Calibration.And have a solar circle sorcerer on staff.And not mind killing most of the guests.
>>43607058>>43607565XP for these EF? If so, then it might impact if we get one charm or two.
>>43608361I think we got at least one XP from them
>started messing around with AA2>made Maka, Tia, Amata, and Samiel>one of the first things Maka did was grab Sammy's buttSuccess
>>43608300Oh, then it was probably Shining Ruler Benevolence. Maka gonna be a political heavy weight
>>43608390She's always a heavy weight
The barbarians of northern Tianna finish their reorganization into the two main tribes (each composed of several sub-tribes): Black Fangs (Or sometimes Black Talons, apparently in their tribal language the word's the same), with Tia as chieftan, and Silver Wolves, with Talon as their chieftan.The Black Fangs settle the plains of northwestern Tianna. They're seminomadic, trade with the townsfolk, and boast the strongest warriors and most skilled smiths and artisans. Their tradition of internal raid-based warfare between clans to steal cattle, women (or men), goods, or for matters of honor, inherited from previous tribes but actively encouraged by Tia, worries you a bit, but she reassures you that "it's a barbarian thing, let boys be boys", and also "keeps them sharp". The Silver Wolves settle in the forests of northeastern Tianna. They're more reclusive, and seem to be generally more peaceful while at the same time more suspicious of outsiders. They generally focus more on fishing and boating, herbal and spiritual lore, and communion with the forest. Talon prefers to keep a hands-off approach to leadership.Ultimately, Talon officially recognizes Tia as her chieftaness as far as tribal politics are concerned, making her the de facto boss of the barbarian population of Tianna.Zaan is playing in his mind with the idea of somehow developing some high-yield crops or animals with a lot of meat to help sustain the barbarian population. Without "proper" agriculture, after all, they need a lot more land to hunt and gather in to support their population. For now, however, he says it's "just an idea"(If there's anything else you'd like some extra info on, ask me before i go on with the story.)
>>43608361I credited 1 XP for the plushie, but didn't see the second one in time. Given the votes, I was thinking Shining Ruler Benevolence, but recounting the votes it seems it's in the lead by just 1 vote, which is kind of a small margin for a Charm buy. I'm actually thinking of having Maka keep the Xp for now.
>>43608405>Their tradition of internal raid-based warfare between clans to steal cattle, women (or men)sooooo, we let a bunch of rapists live on our island? fuck thaaaat.
>>43608405Any news from the Skullstone situation?
>>43608405>>43608415What kind of news have we gotten from outside of Tianna? Creation or just the West in general.I didn't vote for it, but I'm not really against it, I'm fine for keeping SRB, I wanted to get it eventually anyway
>>43608424Nothing wrong with diverse cultures, anon. Stop being a bigoted shitlord, you imperialist scum.I have no idea how to integrate them with Tianna's society, desu. might as well just leave them be and have Tia lead them as an extra army.
>>43608424>not wanting to be raided and stolen by IscariahGet the fuck outta here
>>43608451He's not wrong, you know.>inb4 samefag
>>43608451We could just tell them "no more rape or I'll kick you out of the island. Literaly."
>>43608468I bet you think that rape is not a wrong thing to do too?Worthless trash.
I wonder if people are serious or just good at pretending, right now.
>>43608451So if a band of slavers want to settle on our island we should respect their culture too?
>>43608424As long as they keep it to the other barbarians and leave Tianna and Pearl alone, then it's Talon's problem and he can deal with it however he likes.
>>43608471Not really saying he is wrong. The first sentence was a joke.>>43608480That can go wrong very easily, if Tia has to stand against Maka. She can still kick our ass.Subtlety would be better, but >>Maka>>Subtle>Pick one
>>43608505the rape apologists? Probably, yeah.>>43608517>That can go wrong very easily, if Tia has to stand against Maka. She can still kick our ass.except every character with a consciousness would be on Maka's side.
And that is what happens when you timeskip past 'unimportant' stuff. You make decisions like this, somehow. Because 'boys will be boys'
>>43608517>Stop being a bigoted shitlord, you imperialist scum.That was not a joke, then? Fuck son.>>43608515I agree with you.The barbarians should squabble amongst themselves. If they touch our people, they get the boot.
>>43608517Maka can be subtle, you know.>That can go wrong very easily, if Tia has to stand against Maka.No? I don't see any reason why Tia would stand against this. She herself think it's nothing to worry about, but she supports her wife's fancy ideas like "ethics", most of the time
>>43608424I personally don't really care as long as they stick to raiding each other and not anyone from the city, if it's part of barbarian tradition then for all we know it's the equivalent to an arranged marriage.>yeah he beat up my friends and took me>that's hot I'll marry him and give him babies
>>43608530>except every character with a consciousness would be on Maka's side.Tia said in the post that she has no problem with it and in fact encourages it>Their tradition of internal raid-based warfare between clans to steal cattle, women (or men), goods, or for matters of honor, inherited from previous tribes but actively encouraged by Tia, worries you a bit, but she reassures you that "it's a barbarian thing, let boys be boys", and also "keeps them sharp".
>>43608567>Tia said in the post that she has no problem with it and in fact encourages itTia does not count as a character with a consciousness. Did you not notice how she has basically no morals and the only thing keeping her in cheek is 'Maka would disapprove?'
>>43608552Err, the first line. All of it, both sentences.>>43608558I'd say it's because she has to keep an image and be stubborn, not accepting orders/threats like that. It's like the wrestling scene, but amplified.
>>43608552>>43608566It would be hypocritical of Maka to punish her subject for it if she lets those people rape others.
>>43608566I suppose as long as the people that don't want to put up with that shit can immigrate to Pear it's okay, unless they come to Pearl to take 'their' wives/husbands back with force.
>>43608597The barbarians are not her people or subjects. As long as they don't mess with Pearl, Tianna and the other villages, there is nothing she can do as "punishment".
>>43608597No it wouldn't.
>>43608583You're mistaking consciousness and ethics, anon.>>43608584The wrestling scene was to not lose in front of her people. If we convinced her beforehand, it would be ok.
>>43608597So what? It will be fine, there's absolutely nothing to worry about.So you mean to tell me you're fine if the barbarians start raping and pillaging people who aren't into it?>>43608609I like your train of thoughts.
>>43608626>So you mean to tell me you're fine if the barbarians start raping and pillaging people who aren't into it?No, but right now they aren't. And as long as it stays that way we don't need to start upending an entire culture.
>>43608641Then just let the barbarians fuck up each other.But if they touch our people, we boot them. That's the plan: are you okay with it?
>>43608623"Rape is forbidden inside my city. Do it in the plains, though, and I won't stop you.">>43608618Sure she can. At the very least, she can ask Tia to forbide it as a personal favor.Also, I'm not sure how those barbarian governments work, but once we marry her they'll kind of be our subjects, too.
>>43608658"Rape is forbidden inside my territory and on my subjects. Expect us to be enemies if you go against these rules."
>>43608658>once we marry her they'll kind of be our subjects, too.Not really, for the barbarians at most we'll be "the Chiefteness' wife". Tia is still in charge at most we can talk to her into doing things we want, but we can't go in and start giving orders
>>43608424It's fairly common among nomadic barbarian populations. As a non-barbarian it's okay to feel repulsed by that, but changing ancient traditions is not easy.Tia seems to think that there's nothing particularly wrong about that, but she's a bit crazy herself, so yeah. If you ask her to change that tradition she'll probably do her best, however, she is also right in assuming that keeping a certain low level of internal warfare will keep her barbarians strong and used to conflict.>>43608430The seas seem to have much less ships from Skullstone. Trade with the Archipelago has suddenly died out.>>43608450Realm armies are being recalled to the Blessed Island from all over the Treshold. An (in)famous Realm commander called Tepet Ejava, the "Roseblack", having received an order to return to the Realm alone to face a court of inquiry for alleged insubordination, has instead brought her entire legion with her. Miraculously this did not trigger the entire civil war (possibly because of some of her allies: the name of a Cathak Cainan is dropped here) but the situation is very VERY tense. In the north, the Icewalker Tribes, led by the Solar known as the Bull of the North, are making sweeping conquests, and have arrived almost to the gates of Gethamane, Whitewall, and the Haslanti League. However, they have stopped just shy of them, even though they could have conceivably taken them by storm by now. There is tension and nervousness, and no one knows much of what is going, or what will happen.(cont.)
>>43608626>So you mean to tell me you're fine if the barbarians start raping and pillaging people who aren't into it?No one is into getting raped and pillaged. That's in the definitions.The barbarians acknowledge it may happen to them, and they like doing it to others, but they won't let it happen to themselves willingly.
>>43608656That's not the plan. If it ever becomes a problem we'll start making plans. I think it's a good bet "booting them" isn't going to be the result, though.>>43608658"My kids aren't allowed to smoke. It's none of my business if my tenant's kids smoke though."
>>43608415>I'm actually thinking of having Maka keep the Xp for nowNah let's keep it
>>43608667And the plains aren't inside Maka's territory?
>>43608717Are they?Whatever.>>43608707And what would the result be, if not banishing them from Tianna?
Look, it's pretty simple.If Maka was in a barbarian village, and it got suddenly attacked by raiders here to rape, pillage and burn, what would she do, most likely?
>>43608697>Roseblack>Bull of the NorthSo, we ever meeting these guys?
>>43608697>Roseblack>Bull of the NorthSo this is when we are
>>43608743She would kick their asses back to wherever they came from.
>>43608746That probably depends on how serious were were about that while "being queen of all creation" thing.
>>43608697>the situation is very VERY tense.Can you guys feel it? It seems, to me, that they are in a real need of some LOVE, JUSTICE and MAKA'S MAKAS.
>>43608741People aren't going to easily go with a plan for banishing them. The most likely one to win if you ask me is restructuring them and their customs. There's a bunch of other possibilities too, though. Just use your imagination a bit.
>>43608384Keep us posted anon.
>>43608762And what if she was at 10 min running of the village, and saw it happens?
>>43608801She'd watch it from a distance.
>>43608814She'd go and make popcorn and come back to watch
In the east, two exceptional incidents are becoming the talk of Creation. Apparently the Lost City of Denandsor was somehow "conquered" by the Deathlord Walker in Darkness. A fight with a mysterious Circle featuring a mix of Exalted, including Solars, ensued, wrecking the cursed and abandoned city. Another event was the near-sudden appearance of a powerful worm-like demon in a village somewhere between Nexus and Mishaka. This demon, almost certainly Third Circle by what you hear, was fought and somehow defeated by a circle of Exalted. It's not clear if the two incidents are connected, or if it's the same circle or two different groups of Exalted.In the south, word is going around of strange apparitions featuring "machine men", nicknamed by some "Locusts" for their unsettling practice of appearing from nowhere, attacking isolated cities and settlements, mines, quarries and farms with overwhelming force, and taking literally everything that's not bolted down, and a lot of things that are, only to then mysteriously disappear.Up to now no major city has been struck by them. It also seems like their modus operandi is inconsistent, as sometimes they'll take everything but spare the inhabitants, others they'll only kill whoever resists, and others they leave no survivors.There's also stories about the number of incidents involving possession of the living by ghosts vastly increasing. Some believe this is the sign that something is wrong in the Land of the Dead, but no one can tell exactly why this is happening. As a result, exorcists, shamans and experts in the occult all across the south are finding themselves overworked.
>>43608801She'd watch, probably.
>>43608032>Glorious Tide doesn't show up againShe's coming at our wedding, right?
>>43608814>>43608820>>43608836>Rape is okay, as long as I'm not right here
>>43608831>East status: Fucked>North status: Conquered>South status: Weird Shit>West status: Maka'dClear winners here
>>43608831>LocustsUgh. Great.>>43608862Will you fuck off already. This isn't your personal rape shitbox.
>>43608831>Alchemicals are inYES.
>>43608831If there's still time can we get Moray to send out a message to any of the Prince's old Abyssals and see if any of them want to join up with us against Skullstone?
>>43608831>>43608914To be clear, I'm only really thinking of the Zenith-turned-Midnight, but if anyone else hated him them too. Like Secret if she's around.
>>43608697>changing ancient traditionswell, luckily we're a Solar, we don't have to shrink from doing the right thing just because it's hard.
>>43608862Fuck off already.Tia told us to let the barbarians be barbarians. So as long as it doesn't concern us it's a-o-fucking-kay!
>>43608934>SecretThat was set a few years before current time, wasn't it?She's probably pregnant with Marena's babies by now.
>>43608951Right. We just won't do the "right thing" because it's not the right thing to do in this context.
>>43608956so if Tia tells us that her Barbarians want to throw people into volcanos as a sacrifice we should let her?
>>43608961Well Lynne mentioned her right before the fight so things might be different, it's worth a shot at least, at least to get in contact with some other Circles, Misho's being an ideal one to make an alliance with.
>>43608977>stopping pain and suffering>not the right thingwhat kind of hack zenith are you taking us for?
>>43608979Tia's the boss, we don't get a say in what the barbarians do directly, you knucklehead.We can convince her to stop this shit if it happens.>>43608994The kind that listens to her faithful husband?
>>43608994It's not pain or suffering if it's part of your daily life and you accepted it as your way of life.
>>43608541>And that is what happens when you timeskip past 'unimportant' stuff. You make decisions like this, somehow. Because 'boys will be boys'This is not a decision you made. it's something that was already part of their culture when you showed up. You are being informed of this now that the political asset of the barbarian tribes has stabilized after reorganizing them.And you know this, so don't pretend to be mad.>>43608771>The most likely one to win if you ask me is restructuring them and their customs.This is absolutely on the table. Lunars have a set of charms built specifically for affecting the customs and traditions of barbarian tribes, this should tell you how often they do it.It's totally something that you can affect and change. You should, however, ask yourselves how much.Is kidnapping people wrong, but raiding to steal cattle fine? What if someone dies in a raid? Is it okay to let the family of the killed start a personal feud, should there be a system of redress like Weregild, or what?Given enough time and effort you could go as far as to produce a tribe of utter pacifists with no inclination whatsoever towards violence, but don't expect them to be in any way effective on the battlefield at that point. (Tia would probably disagree as well.)There's also to say that you haven't spent much time with the Black Fangs and don't know much about their actual culture. These are things you heard more or less in passing. You're in timeskip, however, and I think you have the time to spend a day with them and Tia, hearing from them about their customs and way of life. Do you want to do that?>>43608774Interesting. Keep me updated.>>43608914You ask him, and he says he'll do that, but he doesn't seem to have very high hopes.
>>43608980Doesn't seem like a good idea unless Jukashi was brought into it for guidance. I did see him on /aco/ a few days ago.>>43608994Why aren't you in africa saving the starving children? Anon, every shitpost you make is an opportunity lost for some poor dying orphan. Their entire life forfeit, just because you want to ruin our quest thread instead of doing the right thing. Have you no shame?
>>43609004>Tia's the boss, we don't get a say in what the barbarians do directly, you knucklehead.So we shouldn't stop the Abyssals, after all, we're not their boss. We can't stop them from doing anything, only their Deathlord master can decide what's right and wrong.>>43609023because I am not a god-king returned from ancient times that can do the impossible AND have it happen right in front of me?
>>43609020>There's also to say that you haven't spent much time with the Black Fangs and don't know much about their actual culture. These are things you heard more or less in passing. You're in timeskip, however, and I think you have the time to spend a day with them and Tia, hearing from them about their customs and way of life. Do you want to do that?Yes, why not? Let's do that.
>>43609035Oh, so only supernatural demigods can do the right thing, you don't need to do anything yourself? What a hyporcritically amoral and lazy person you are.
>>43609023>ruin our quest threadoh yes, let's give up trying to be good. I can't wait until we mind-rape everyone into loving us.
>>43609020>Interesting. Keep me updated.I don't think you meant to quote me there.
>>43609035We convinced the Tyrant to stop that shit, so don't think all high and mighty, because there's a limit to our power.If for them rape and pillaging is fine, let them do it amongst themselves. A better way of handling things would be to tell those that are sick of this tradition that they can come live with us in a better, more civilized part of the island.
>>43609020>Do you want to do that?Let's do it, I'm all for changing it depending on how it's viewed within the actual culture, but if everyone or even most people are for it and are okay with being raided and raid in return AND the people that aren't can come live in the city I don't mind it staying as part of their culture.>Interesting. Keep me updated.I'll keep messing around, without all the proper mods installed it's not a really good simulation, but I really do like how the Maka came out.
>>43609063>that strawmannewsflash, anon. If you have more power, that means you have more responsibility to do the right thing with that power.
>>43609020>This is absolutely on the table.Well it was all dependent on the barbarians actually raping city dwellers first. I didn't think we'd want to vote before something like that happened, since for now we were content to let Tia handle it.
>>43609023I never had a chance to get in touch with Jukaishi, though I'd love to, as a fellow Exalted-lover. His webcomic has always been a source of fun and inspiration for me.Though by the looks of it he's tired of people mentioning his webcomic, and I can understand why. I don't want to annoy him, so I'm not even sure if I should try to contact him in the first place.Also, unless there's some votes strongly against that, I'm going to keep Maka's XP unspent for now. Is that alright?>>43609068Er, no, but you get what I meant.>>43609023>>43609035>>43609063>>43609064Quit it.
>>43609082I'll vote to change it depending on how this visit and future problems occur, but for now we can at least get a better view of the situation
>>43609020I'm reminded of that wife carrying competition. I wonder if we could implement something similar?
>>43609094I'm for keeping SRB
>>43609064> I can't wait until we mind-rape everyone into loving us.We're already doing that, and have been for most of the quest. In fact, in this very thread our largest scale to date mindrape plan, the coin thing, was put into motion and started having an effect on people.
>>43608961Keychain of Creation was set in RY 773, five years after the standard Exalted start date. I THINK the quest is at the aforementioned start date, RY 768, but I don't think it was ever explicitly confirmed.Of course, we did have a run-in with the King of Uncloaked Steel while he was in the service of the Silver Prince, so that certainly seems to imply that we're currently pre-Keychain.(And considering that we knocked off the Silver Prince, we may have prevented poor Dernelle from ever exalting in the first place)
If there's going to be trade and the like with the barbarians, won't it be almost inevitable that city folk visiting the tribes for trade etc. will also fall victim to the raids?I mean, if you go and raid a camp or something are you going to ask people where they're from before you kill/kidnap them?And can we ask our soldiers/watchemnt/whatever law enforcement here is to stand by and watch as people are raped and kidnapped right before their eyes?
>>43609113>(And considering that we knocked off the Silver Prince, we may have prevented poor Dernelle from ever exalting in the first place)Secret was mentioned by name already
>>43609094>>43609113Well, in that case the whole Misho's party idea is out. And it was an awkward one anyway, so it's for the best.
>>43609094You can find jukaishi on tgchan's irc channel or on furaffinity, with the same name. He also has his own thread on tgchan.But yes, he is tired of people asking about, but it's more about continuing it or asking about the plot or whatever, rather than making references.
>>43609119>If there's going to be trade and the like with the barbarians, won't it be almost inevitable that city folk visiting the tribes for trade etc. will also fall victim to the raids?>I mean, if you go and raid a camp or something are you going to ask people where they're from before you kill/kidnap them?This is improbable, but we could always instruct the barbarians to not pillage and rape in certain months/seasons of trade and whatever.
>>43609113>(And considering that we knocked off the Silver Prince, we may have prevented poor Dernelle from ever exalting in the first place)She exalted in flashback time, though. Who knows when that happened exactly.
You know, I see people say we 'redeemed' Tyrant, or convinced her her actions were wrong. I may be missing something here, but didn't she flip us the bird, go after the Titan anyway, get slapped down by the Silver Prince for her troubles and then all we did was apply the Zenith anima ability to make her soul go to Lethe? I don't see how that constitutes convincing her of anything.
>>43609145Another way of approaching this would be to let the barbarians come to sell things in the city.
>>43609125Oh, I missed that.Good.
>>43609145at that point, you might as well highly ritualise the entire thing with arranged 'kidnappings' that test your strength/resolve etc.
>>43609136>>43609094Yes, you never know if he'd be against it or actually like it if someone asked him for advice on how to make shout-outs to his characters in a quest like this one.
>>43609020>>There's also to say that you haven't spent much time with the Black Fangs and don't know much about their actual culture. These are things you heard more or less in passing. You're in timeskip, however, and I think you have the time to spend a day with them and Tia, hearing from them about their customs and way of life. Do you want to do that?Sure, it can be great.
>>43609119A few points anon1. Nobody said you can't defend yourselves or others from a raid or kidnapping attempt.2. If the barbarians regularly abuse city traders then trade will cease and the barbarians will lose out on sources of iron and other essential resources. Barbarian tribes would have a vested interest to rein in raiders on city traders in order to keep up the supply of useful materials, they'll be self policing to a degree.3. Give it time anon, they'll gentrify and their raiding culture will become more and more unacceptable to themselves as they become more sedentary and farming focused.
>>43609171Guys we need to create the Barbarian Olympics.
>>43609113>I THINK the quest is at the aforementioned start date, RY 768, but I don't think it was ever explicitly confirmed.I faffed about with the dating and contradicted myself a couple times in the past, but, as far as the calendar is concerned, yes, the Quest is set in RY 768.Of course, you realize this means absolutely nothing to me and all events you know of could be happening at unpredictable times, differently, or not at all. It's just a number. It's not like I CARE about being consistent with an imaginary metaplot or anything.
>>43609109I'm also for keeping it.
>>43609119An easy fix is to tell Tia to make any non-tribesman off limits as far as raiding goes.
I'm unconvinced that having a tribe of barbarians on the island is a good use of the space long-term. It would be much better to simply assimilate them, and I'm surprised they aren't being drawn in like other folks into settling down.
>>43609161The anima thing was the redemption. She was a ghost, she needed to be put back into lethe no matter what, just like any other ghost does.
>>43609161That was after she got her shit kicked in by the Silver Prince. Before that, she was 100% with us on board.The point is that we didn't have any say in what her underlings did anyway.So if the Abyssals really had done something bad, we might have had to fight against them aswell.But since we convinced them to be on our side, that one is a moot point.
>>43609184>If the barbarians regularly abuse city traders then trade will cease and the barbarians will lose out on sources of iron and other essential resources.well, they'd be abusing the traders trading with their RIVALS. Wouldn't it be MORE in their interest to screw that up for them?
>>43609094>>43609109>>43609190Thirded>>43609185That's actually a really good alternative, regular inter-tribal meets where trhe various tribes show off there skill at arms, hunting, crafting, whatever to win honor/women/whatever.
>>43609079No you don't the only responsibility of people with power is not to abuse that power. No one, no matter their personal level of power,is obligated to help others if they don't want to.
>>43609197We don't need to turn the island into super-efficient famland suburbia. There's plenty of land out there, and plenty of other islands.
>>43609213Since we convinced *her to be on our side.
>>43609220so you can give every human on the entire planet enough food to last him a lifetime with a single snap of your fingers. Are you saying you don't have a moral obligation to do that?
>>43609228The cities will have to expand eventually. The barbarian tribes can only expand so far before the borders clash with the ones of the cities.
>>43609213>That was after she got her shit kicked in by the Silver Prince. Before that, she was 100% with us on board.How was she 100% on board with us if she actively went against what we asked of her, disregarded our prior advice and went after the Titan anyway? She even sent an apology note of sorts saying she was gonna do things her way.>>43609199So Redemption as a technical term, rather than a spiritual epiphany.
>>43609214Then their rivals would have an interest in protecting city traders and the tribe of guys raiding them would have to deal with trade caravan guards AND their rivals. Plus the raiders need iron too and unless they plan on becoming wild raiders that only pillage and never trade with anybody they'll have to stop themselves or be left behind by their better equipped and better fed enemies.And if they DO become wild raiders focused on looting then they'll get stamped out like any other nest of bandits or outlaws.
>>43609228We're planning to make it the capital of a direction-spanning empire eventually. I'd be highly surprised if there's enough space on the island for that.
>>43609079But you aren't powerless, anon. You COULD in fact be saving lives right now, instead of arguing on a campuchean filology imageboard.
>>43609255Why are you focusing on that point when the thing is that we wouldn't have had a say in what her underlings did in the first fucking place?
>>43609258>And if they DO become wild raiders focused on looting then they'll get stamped out like any other nest of bandits or outlaws.Do you mean by us? because the consensus is to let them do whatever they want. Or do you think something changes if they go from 'lots of raiding' to 'lots and lots of raiding'? And where do you draw the line between acceptable and unacceptable raiding?
>>43609277Considering it takes several days of travel to get from one side to the other by land, I'd say there's more than enough land.
>>43609255>disregarded our prior advice and went after the Titan anyway?She only really went against it in a moment of crisis, both times we saw her after that she still held Maka in high regards and stayed behind to hold off Silver Prince, whether or not she would have still gone after the Titan if she had lived is a moot point since she died, but she didn't completely fall at the end.
>>43609296We don't have to worry about that until Tia tells us to worry about it.
>>43609244No you don't. It's your power, you can do what you want with it as long as no one gets hurt, even if what you want to do is nothing.
>>43609322but Tia doesn't consider raiding to be something to worry about, so no amount of raiding would lead to her telling us to worry about it.>>43609309Hmm, you're probably right in pure land for the city, but agriculture to feed as much of the population as possible locally would probably be good, too.
>>43609161>You know, I see people say we 'redeemed' Tyrant, or convinced her her actions were wrong.We didn't really do this, but we convinced her that she could try to become a better person and find redemption. She agreed on at least give it a try, stopping the "let's kill everyone because fuck them for my life and unlife" attitude.> I may be missing something here, but didn't she flip us the bird, go after the Titan anyway, get slapped down by the Silver Prince for her troubles and then all we did was apply the Zenith anima ability to make her soul go to Lethe? I don't see how that constitutes convincing her of anything.She went in her equivalent of Limit Break, after losing nearly everything in one attack.And keep in mind she didn't go back doing actively malevolent things, she went "this is over, we're going to lose, so I will go on with my plan to destroy the horrifying abominations that will punish me if I die before them".In the end, she did earn a bit of redemption, and without her we couldn't have won. Ironicaly, her breakdown lead to sacrificing herself for everyone, something that could have been avoided.
>>43609288Because I never brought that up as one of my own points. I know that what happened with her underlings wasnt our say, I just look at the idea that we 'Redeemed' her and see it as being a bit hollow. My point was a seperate one from the question of her Abyssals.
>>43609338People are getting hurt because of your inaction.>>43609358Why are you trying to pack everything in the same little tiny speck of land that is probably the biggest liability per square mile in all the west? If anything we should be getting everyone off the island, not crisscrossing it with civilization.
>>43609338>No you don't. It's your power, you can do what you want with it as long as no one gets hurt, even if what you want to do is nothing.Are...are you actually for real or just trolling? I realise this is a huge tangent, but dude. It absolutely is your duty to do that. If you see someone die next to you and you could easily help him but didn't, that's a crime, and for a good reason.
>>43609020>Interesting. Keep me updated.>http://imgur.com/a/2POi1Here's what little I've played around with, there wasn't a good fit for Sammy's personality in the default settings, but Maka and Amata came out well and I played around with Maka's hair in some of the cards, not that you can see them well here.Notable events are>Maka grabbing Sammy's butt>Amata (as the teacher) seducing Maka>Tia beating up like 5 other studentsI don't have that a screencap of that last one though.
>>43609358>but Tia doesn't consider raiding to be something to worry about, so no amount of raiding would lead to her telling us to worry about it.And we should care about the barbarians because..?Keep in mind that they will have the liberty to come into our cities, if they tire of their barbaric ways.
>>43609296Cooperation and trade will bring them around to a more civil way of life anon. The consensus is to let them do whatever they want "among themselves" If they start attacking hamlets of city residents or assaulting trade caravans then they're fair game for the regular forces of Tianna and Pearl.I wouldn't worry about their raiding culture for very long, it's likely to become more and more unacceptable among the barbarians as they become more settled and used to trading with the cities.Plus as a Solar we can nudge them towards the peaceful gentrification. We don't need to mind whammy them into line, they'll come on their own accord
>>43609376I see, so you were arguing about something else. That's acceptable.
>>43609382Well, having to ship in food is a huge liability too, making us extremely vulnerable to a blockade or similar.
>>43609374Fair enough. I can definitely agree that she got closer than before, even if she didn't make it all the way to being redeemed.
>>43609388This is so accurate.>there wasn't a good fit for Sammy's personality in the default settingsMales are almost completely ignored by the game.
>>43609410It's an 'ancient tradition' that has the complete support of their exalted leaders. I think we'll need to at least make it an actual effort to try and bring them in.
>>43609185It's true that ritualising the thing is a good alternative
>>43609419Not really. We can just poof food into existence through the power of exalts. Or maybe something even more efficient like letting Silk do it.
>>43609388What game is that again?
Answering all the questions (I hope) on barbarian customs.Within the Black Fangs there are seven sub-tribes, essentially "clans". The largest of these are further fractured. All these people still consider themselves as part of the same "tribe" and the same people. They will fight united against outside threats and so on.Before Skullstone's invasion, these tribes had never experienced "total war". Even the idea of fighting to destroy an enemy group is quite alien to them. For the barbarian mindset, fighting is something you do to conquer something, and fighting destructively is incredibly stupid.Gaining control of something through force of arms is quite normal. It's not quite might-makes-right mentality, because even though they seem largely lawless to a city-dweller's eyes, they have a lot of rules and customs. The most common and widespread kind of internal conflict is the raid. In a raid, a clan assembles a war party of volunteers and goes to steal another clan's possessions, generally cattle, manufactured goods, resources or food. These are low-lethality actions, because the objective of the raiders is to steal and the objective of the raided is to drive away the raiders.The most skilled raiders are, of course, those who manage to disappear with the loot but without alerting anyone, in the dead of the night.These actions do have their fair share of wounded and dead, however. Still, it's very low, as the fights are small and ritualized.As a custom, there's no blood feud for someone killed in a raid, whether attacker or defender (it's considered a "lawful killing"). Some take exception to this, but if they pursue vengeance, their actions are not condoned by tribal law and the revenge is considered an unlawful killing.It's considered both bad form and a dumb move to raid an already-poor clan. Generally, at any one time, it's the richest, strongest clan the one that suffer the most raids.(cont.)
>>43609185>>43609441This is going to be my vote if things are really unpleasant in the tribes, obviously we'll ask the Lunars for help in that case.>>43609457Artificial Academy 2
>>43609388So, uh. You going to release the cards for others to use too?Because I am a tiny bit interested in them.>>43609185Turning violence into well behaved sports is a good idea
>>43609382>People are getting hurt because of your inaction.You can be out saving lives right now to, but your not, why should the fact that they could do it better mean they are a worse person than you?
>>43609410>We don't need to mind whammy them into lineI don't think anyone was actually talking about concrete ways of stopping it, just that we need to do something against it. Yes, gentle nudging would probably be most efficient.>>43609448I don't think there's any good charms to make food from nothing. And the terrestrial spell only feeds like 50 people AND can't keep mortals alive forever.
>>43609491The cards in the album are the only ones I've made so far, the rest of the class is just the default student list.
>>43609419It's unlikely we'll need to import food for a long long time anon, we have a working friendship with Ocean Father and the island is actually one of the biggest in the West with a large amount of brand new arable plains to grow crops on.The plains have barely been settled yet, we've still got lots of room to grow on the island.>>43609437Yeah but many cultures throughout our own history raided constantly but trade and increasing food supplies due to agriculture made said raiding culturally unacceptable. Same shit with dueling, the barbarians will maintain this ancient tradition for a bit longer but the improved quality of life offered by better products will bring them around.That said we should nudge them to speed the process up. There's no question in my mind that they'll abandon their raiding ways, it's only a matter of when.
>>43609458oh boy, get prepared for 'muh noble savages'
>>43609522>making assumptions about the quest>asshurt when wrong
>>43609519aren't Lunars actively keeping barbarians from becoming civilised because it makes you 'weak' sometimes? We should make sure ours don't do that.
>>43609519>made said raiding culturally unacceptableMore like "uneeded" and too risky.
>>43609542well, comparing the tone of the earlier mention of the raiding, it's pretty clear he's secretly back-pedalling/retconning
>>43609561Or you made assumptions about what he meant when he said raiding based on a few sentences
>>43609544Some are, but the whole point behind the Thousand Streams River project is to make stronger mortal societies that don't require the exalted to function. A settled and civilized people are pretty much always going to beat poorly organized barbarian tribes.>>43609552Eh unneeded or unacceptable the result is the same, they stop raiding of their own accord.
>>43609430Oh, sure. The Tyrant has been an utterly despicable, loathsome being for the large majority of her life and unlife, and she caused the sufferings of billions, directly or not. To say nothing of the fact she wanted to change for purely selfish and pragmatical reason, at the start.Yet, in the end, she did redeem herself a bit. And her sincere willingness to do so, added to the help she provided, was enough for Maka to forgive her.
>>43609494Because you're the one going off about how we should do the right thing in the quest and not let the poor barbarians rape each other or whatever the fuck.
>>43609388Pretty good!Thanks, anon. I never realized Amata would look this tiny next to Maka
>>43609606but we have to respect their culture! We have to, because it was always like this!
>>43609561>tone of the earlier mention of the raidingWhat tone?All he said was> Their tradition of internal raid-based warfare between clans to steal cattle, women (or men), goods, or for matters of honor, inherited from previous tribes but actively encouraged by Tia, worries you a bit, but she reassures you that "it's a barbarian thing, let boys be boys", and also "keeps them sharp". No mention of burning, raping, killing, or pillaging
Why did you faggots argue so much about something that is kept among barbarians only?
Sometimes, when a raid steals a particularly prized treasure belonging to one clan, it is generally ransomed back.The raided clan loses face for not being able to protect its treasure in the process.The second most common type of internal conflict is the Ordeal. To settle grudges or disagreements, or to decide in cases where tribal law, proof and testimony does not favor either side, two champions are chosen and fight it out in a ritual arena. If you ask for an ordeal when you're clearly at fault and there's solid proof or testimony against you, you just end up looking even more guilty. Ordeals are generally used for personal grudges, to end or prevent blood feuds, or to settle affairs where tribal law and the elders and chieftans cannot accurately determine who is in the right or in the wrong.Ordeals go by a very precise set of rules to ensure a fair fight. They go on until someone surrenders, dies, or is clearly unable to keep fighting. Lethality is about 15%~25%The kidnapping is actually the most uncommon case of tribal conflict, because it means that a tribe must end up, somehow, with a rather large gender disparity.If there are two tribes with opposite gender disparities (one has too many men, the other too many women), the "kidnapping" is a purely ritual affair, acted out like a genuine kidnapping but with the tacit agreement of both factions.(that doesn't mean that the individuals switching clan are okay with that, of course, but it's not any worse or any better than the "civilized" custom of arranged marriages).However, if no other tribe is up for it, then it happens by force. The same set of "rules" of a cattle raid apply.Of course, people are not cattle, and this kind of "raid" is much more likely to severely strain relations for years to come. However, sometimes it actually improves relations in the longer term, as the two tribes "mix their blood" and become closer.(cont.)
>>43609552>>43609519What is culturaly unacceptable is generaly uneeded. Most cultures don't think what they need to survive is amoral.
>>43609644because we care about rape and murder, even if it happens to barbarians.
>>43609644Because anon won't shut up about it
>>43609606I never said that, I'm pretty sure what I've been arguing for is the exact opposite of that.
>>43609665You need to try their culture out. It will be good for you and build character, maybe then you will stop being a sissy from the city.I tell you, kids these days don't know what's good for them. All of this "civilized" talk, bah.
>>43609637To be fair, stealing cattle, women (or men) and goods in raid tends to be rape and pillaging. And warfare generaly involves killing>>43609644Would you let your neighbor beat his wife to death?
>>43609644This is 4chan. /tg/ may pretended to be more civil than other boards, but when it comes down to it they'll still take any chance they can get to shitpost.
>>43609624It's not even that accurate, AA2 only has three height settings, Lowest, average, Highest, the difference is probably bigger than that.I did like how that Maka/Sammy one came out though, Maka looking down is super cute
>>43609665Is that the royal we or the editorial we?
>>43609693You're right. I really can't say anything bad about human sacrifice until I've tried having my heart ripped out and offered to the gods.
>>43609698Except he's not our neighbor and our name is not America.
>>43609649Yeah alright, I'm okay with it in the end.
>>43609707Or /tg/ just likes to argue when they care about an issue.
>>43609721they literally live on the same island as we do, if that's not our neighbor then I don't know who is.
Barbarians in Tianna are not in the habit of kidnapping city-dwellers. They're not of their people, and no one wants a husband who cannot hunt and skin a deer or a wife who doesn't know how to tan a hide and paint it.At least, that's the way it is now. Talon and Amata both explain to you that the barbarians were perfectly alright with kidnapping city-dwellers in the past.After a series of punitive raids courtesy of Amata, they became less inclined to do so, and when Talon started taking the tribes over, he continued in that direction because he didn't want the barbarians to come too much into contact with them.Another similar case is when two individuals of two different tribes, who do not have the approval of their families to marry, elope. This is played out like a kidnapping raid. If the fugitives are not caught by the next full moon, if counts as a marriage.There are times where everyone is "on" to it and the raid is just a pretense: the families can't officially agree to the marriage for political reasons, so the "kidnapping" absolves them from responsibility. There are also cases in which one of the two parts is entirely unwilling. And pretty much anything in-between.
>>43609698>To be fair, stealing cattle, women (or men) and goods in raid tends to be rape and pillaging. And warfare generaly involves killingAnd now we've cleared it up so we can all stop now
>>43609698If you read what EF is posting, you will realize your analogy is bad.These guys are actually pretty cool.
>>43609745well, there's still rape happening and being allowed by their laws. the fact that it's not 100% of all raids doesn't change much.
>>43609761Wouldn't expect anything less from barbarians under the influence of our husbando. And friend of husbando.
>>43609761Rape is never cool, anon. Except when it's funny rape.
>>43609745Sure.It sounds like stuff that would disappear if they became more prosperous, anyway.
>>43609761>There are also cases in which one of the two parts is entirely unwilling.>Kidnap someone and escape for a few days until the full moon and you've officially married your kidnap victim>cool guys
>>43609762Stop moving goalposts and shut up already.
>>43609762What's the big deal with that, anyway? They're also killing each other, which is a lot worse than rape.
While we're talking about rape, what's the law on arranged marriage on the island?
>>43609777That's totally unfeasible if the kidnappee is against it though, they could wait for you too sleep and slit your throat and come back home.
>>43609768>Except when it's funny rape.Like the time Maka tried to rape that Immaculate Monk, but their partner came back so she tried to leave, tripped, and was nearly counter-raped?
Ok shut up about the killing and the rape, we need to do Barbarian Olympics.Think of the TOURISM OBOLS people!
>>43609787you're right, that should stop as well.>>43609804>what is kidnapping minors>what is rope
>>43609805>nearlyDB monk mindbroke us into loving him.I eagerly await the return of our pious husbando
>>43609761I know this analogy is hyperbolic, but I was responding to "why are we talking about what only happen between barbarians".
>>43609804did you miss the part where EF literally said that's a thing that sometimes happens?
>>43609743>There are also cases in which one of the two parts is entirely unwilling>I don't want to kidnap you though>shut up you nerd and take this rope
>>43609820Yuumei a best Realm husbando
>>43609809>tourismIf you want tourism it can't be just barbarians, we need to invite the entire west to send their best athletes and create the rules for a number of sporting events. Incorporate any existing ones, since this is the west we'd probably need something sailing oriented. Oh, and come up with suitable rewards, since the first few years won't really have the prestige factor yet.
Let's not forget the 'can't marry who you want if your family disapproves without being hunted down and killed' part, too. That one's pretty horrible if you think about it.
>>43609804Staying awake a few days is perfectly possible, you know. And securing a captive is also not complicated.
>>43609861>what is Romeo and Juliet
>>43609816>you're right, that should stop as well.Indeed. And we need to stop stand up comedians and professors from being mean. Being mean to someone is basically raping them.
>>43609649>>43609743So noncapsanon aside, is anyone else against this?After hearing about it I'm not.
>>43609858>Oh, and come up with suitable rewards, since the first few years won't really have the prestige factor yet.well, we're trying to use it to stop the stupid barbarians from stealing cattle and (wo)men, so cattle would make a good price.>>43609869and Romeo's family legally being allowed to kill Juliet isn't a problem?Heck, the entire play is PROTESTING how bad it is that they can't marry and be together.
>>43609872Yes, clearly murder == being mean.
>>43609885Never was against them.
>>43609800It's not explicitly forbidden, nor is it explicitly allowed.It sometimes happens, taking the form of informal agreements and pressuring on the bride-to-be and groom-to-be. It's generally not considered a big deal, and doesn't happen particularly often.>>43609804According to what you hear, that happened a few times. Tribal law considers it a lawful killing. The tribals seem to consider it a very borderline case, however. Even considering the circumstances, to them it's still the murder of a fellow tribesman in cold blood.You have to wonder how many victims were not alright with being kidnapped but not SO MUCH not alright with it to take someone's life.>>43609842That also happened once.
All this arguing did do one good thing.Our wedding will totally be on the 100th thread
>>43609885Well, I'm all for teaching them some actual ethics through gentle nudging and some solar charisma.
>>43609920>That also happened once.
>>43609885I am. But there's really no need to ask like this, we'll see where the vote takes us.>inb4 rape apologists prepare their proxies
>>43609885Never had so problem to begin with.
>>43609927I think the wedding being on the 100th is a good thing, personally.>>43609885Technically, it already is an olympics, of sorts.>>43609929They already have the proper relevant ethics.
>>43609964>They already have the proper relevant ethics.>being this wrong about something, ever.
>>43609927>Pyre Spark sees Divine Maka
>>43609869A teenager wanting to fuck a 13 years old girl he met at a party because he didn't get any with his ex-girlfriend, leading to several deaths for stupid reasons and bruised egos?>>43609885I'm for making them prosperous enough that they don't need to do that kind of stuff.I mean, most of those things happen because they have scarce ressources and are in competition with each others.
>>43609885>>43609964>Technically, it already is an olympics, of sorts.I'm not against it as it, but I'd like to see it transition into something like this
>>43609094>Also, unless there's some votes strongly against that, I'm going to keep Maka's XP unspent for now. Is that alright?A little late, but I want to keep the charm.Didn't get in intime to cote, but it's what I wanted anyway
>>43609978This may come as a surprise to you anon but generally even barbarian cultures disliked having their stuff taken and their people killed, raped and kidnapped.9 times out of 10 a raid happens because the people in question want more food or livestock so they don't have to scratch by. The raiders know they wouldn't want to be raided but they still want/need more stuff.Stop trying to analyze a barbarian culture by modern real world ethics, think about it based on context and situation.
>>43609708>Sammy can stick his face in Maka's cleavage standing up9 is officially my favorite dress
Yeah, I'm wary of calling a vote here because I really get the feeling that this is one of those hotly contested topics that will get multivoted to hell and back.I think I'll just go with the flow of the discussion I perceived, which is: these customs are GENERALLY alright but there's space for improvement, going more in the direction of ritualized actions (see: the "Olympics" proposal).I think the real question is: do you see any merit in letting these people keep their barbarian lifestyle, or do you want to take measures to "civilize" them, and, if so, how suddenly? (keep in mind that this will probably not sit too well with your Lunars).Also, I'm sure I don't need to point this out, but "civilized" people kill, steal and rape each other just as much as barbarians do. That's not going to change, barring social engineering projects that would probably take you decades or centuries. So don't make the assumption that they will become "nicer" if you get them to settle down.>>43610062>Stop trying to analyze a barbarian culture by modern real world ethics, think about it based on context and situation.Also this.You people need to play more King of Dragon Pass.
>>43609978They have the ethics relevant to their reality and culture. Your ethics are the wrong one, anon.
>>43609388Also, this gets 1 XP, which might become 2 XP if you continue with more characters.
>>43610129I'm content to leave the Lunar's people to the Lunars.
>>43610129I'm okay with letting them stay Barbarians, I mean even if they get big we're going to be taking over the West, we'll have room to grow.
>>43610129>"civilized" people kill, steal and rape each other just as much as barbarians do.but their cultures don't consider it lawful. You can dress it up with rituals and 'isn't usually done' as much as you want, you don't get away with killing people who's cattle you want to steal in a civilised society.and my vote is to slowly work towards assimilating them/making them more 'civilised'
>>43610129>You people need to play more King of Dragon PassI was literally just about to post this shit. First thing I thought of when the raids were mentioned.
>>43610129I say leave them to their own devices, the ritualized raids will die down on their own over time as they become more prosperous and raiding becomes a ridiculous risk for an unnecessary reward.
>>43610129>I think the real question is: do you see any merit in letting these people keep their barbarian lifestyle, or do you want to take measures to "civilize" them, and, if so, how suddenly? (keep in mind that this will probably not sit too well with your Lunars).I don't see any real merit in it, except maybe not upsetting the Lunars. If that's enough or not, I dunno.
>>43610129It will change naturally, no need for interfering and upsetting the husbando.
>>43610150I'll keep going, the female character creation has a wider variety of options, but I'll see about making at least the Karas and Mikahil
>>43610129I'd say don't directly try to stop them, but maybe set policies so they'll adapt more quickly than might be normal.I'm sure our eclipse can find a way of doing that subtly.
>>43610129We won't need to interfere, if it changes by itself that's fine, and if it doesn't, that's fine too.
>>43610175Barbaric cultures generally also don't see raids as "lawful". Throughout history raiding like that generally led to blood feuds and counter raiding.It sounds like whatever tribal elders are around got together to try to curb the worst of it and impose some level of ritual on it so the various barbarian clans didn't get consumed in endless vendetta killings. Give it time anon, they'll curb their own raiding as they become more prosperous. There's plenty of real world historical precedent to back that behavior.
>>43610252>As a custom, there's no blood feud for someone killed in a raid, whether attacker or defender (it's considered a "lawful killing"You are objectively wrong.
Next thread will start with the wedding. Seems like the appropriate way to celebrate Thread #100. Until this thread expires we can talk about the timeskip. Did I forget about anything, or do you have any questions about the things going on?>>43610175>but their cultures don't consider it lawful.Coral is a nation founded entirely on piracy and legalized theft. The people of the Neck throw people into volcanoes. And I don't need to tell you what Skullstone does. Slavery is commonplace throughout creation, and particularly hideous and exploitative in the Realm colonies along the northern coast. And the Guild routinely sells people to the Fair Folk. All these populations are "civilized" and everything they're doing is perfectly condoned by the laws of their state.
>>43610281I guess we should all stop playing Exalted then, since nothing in it is actually true.
>>43610287And those are all big reasons why the Haslanti tribes united and kicked the Guild out of their territory.
>>43610281Except it sounds like said "custom" was tacitly agreed upon to prevent exactly what I was talking about.Without said custom each clan would counter raid to get revenge and steal their stuff back and then some.
>>43610287How are things going in the rest of the West?You mentioned the Blessed Isle, North, South, and East, but nothing about what's going on around us.
Father ocean has asked us a favor we shouldn't forget
>>43610312meh, fuck him. I'm in no hurry to do that.
>>43610287Has Pearl gotten more city-ish since the sudden immigration? How has our little lap god Jewel been?
>>43610281I think >>43610252 meant "historically". Which I don't know enough to confirm or disprove.Also, >>43610252 is right about>It sounds like whatever tribal elders are around got together to try to curb the worst of it and impose some level of ritual on it so the various barbarian clans didn't get consumed in endless vendetta killings. Going by what Talon and Amata are saying, there's been a conscious effort into adapting the barbarian cultural habits, over time into a structure that would:1) let them form larger and more coherent tribes2) cause them less internal conflict and strife3) be less actively hostile to city-dwellersPoint 3) in particular is mostly because Tianna is an island, where barbarians and city-dwellers are more or less forced to coexist.
>>43610287Who did we invite, from outside the island?
>>43610287Oh it's been at least two weeks, how did the mock battles with the Steelshards go?
>>43610343>2) cause them less internal conflict and strifeSo, wouldn't they agree with our tries at abolishing raiding, if Maka's efforts would basically be in the same direction as those of Talon?
Is there anything we can do for the families of those who committed suicide? Can we at least ensure they are testing peacefully?
>>43610343I'm sorry we wasted a thread talking about fucking barbarians doing barbarian things.... Ugh, thanks for running boss. Unless we have more time-skip posts coming.
>>43610363Let it happen organically anon, as their population swells and they become sedentary farmers instead of nomadic clans they'll stop raiding each other.I'm pretty sure they'd actually resent it if some soft city queen showed up to tell them how they should live and how their culture is wrong.
>>43610287Thanks for the thread as always EF and for putting up with us.What does our new background spread look like?We increased Followers and Familiar right?Is Cult close to going up any?
>>43610398if they think Maka's soft they are free to try and stop her.
>>43610312Haven't forgotten. Hopefully Mika's good at finding leads.
>>43610398This, let it happen, no need to muck around in things we aren't completely knowledgeable on. Especially when we have Talon, Tia and Zaan keeping an eye out for us.
>>43610425I think Maka's sparring match with Tia has put to rest any questionings of that in the Black Fangs.
>>43610425Doesn't change the fact that Maka would be an outsider to their tribe and way of life. If some schmo showed up and started telling you how everything you do is wrong and how they know better than you would you agree and listen to them or tell them to fuck off?
>>43610287How is everyone?Have they recovered from getting beat up already?
>>43610310>You mentioned the Blessed Isle, North, South, and East, but nothing about what's going on around us.Well, you are the big news of the West. You haven't heard of any other big event going on at the time.>>43610337>Has Pearl gotten more city-ish since the sudden immigration? How has our little lap god Jewel been?Sort of, it had a growth spurt, but it'll still be a few months before it can look like a proper "city". Jewel is as noncommittal as usual, but you think he's actually happy.>>43610349>Who did we invite, from outside the island?I don't kinow, who did you invite? I don't think Maka personally knows anyone around the West outside Tianna.>>43610356>Oh it's been at least two weeks, how did the mock battles with the Steelshards go?They really gave you one hell of a fight. It's obvious they have experience in fighting against supernatural enemies.In the end, they managed to subdue you, though almost 4/5th of their entire force was knocked out by then.Considering that they didn't have to hold back, and you did... well, if you could've fought without holding back, you would've MAYBE taken them out, but just barely.But they've also been very lucky, or maybe you've been quite unlucky in the sparring match. They got a lot of shots and hits on you that you could've avoided or parried on a good day, probably. Judging by the look on their faces, they probably know that they've been lucky, and, now that you know their tactics better, you would probably trounce them in a second match.
>>43610462well, if the outsider has social charms out the wazoo? I'd do what they say.Also, isn't that what the Lunars are doing, too? It isn't like they were born into the tribe.
>>43610287The Realm has been pulling back their legions already, but how's the Wyld Hunt?
>>43610494We aren't using ultra mindfuck charms in social situations though, we just use the personal charisma boosters.The Lunars effectively joined various tribes or formed new ones to get the influence they needed to get them to listen and do what they said.
>>43610490Did that one guy get to cop a feel?
>>43610600which one guy?
>>43610363>So, wouldn't they agree with our tries at abolishing raiding, if Maka's efforts would basically be in the same direction as those of Talon?Talon wants them to be more "manageable" and less self-destructive, but wants to keep them barbarians, and argues that abolishing raiding would be like sawing off a tiger's fangs and feeding it soup through a straw for the rest of its life. He's probably being a bit melodramatic about this, but you do understand his point of view. >>43610366>Is there anything we can do for the families of those who committed suicide? Can we at least ensure they are testing peacefully?Well, you can make them test some new gravestones, that's about it....Sorry. Yes, you take care of that. Their families aren't going to hate you any less because of this, but you're not doing it to be liked.>>43610377Honestly, apart for the scant few annoying posters who argued instead of discussing, I really enjoyed it.And no, next thread is going to be 100% actual play.>>43610398>as their population swells and they become sedentary farmers instead of nomadic clans they'll stop raiding each otherConsidering you have Lunars with you, you're fairly sure their influence is going to make sure the barbarians stay barbarian and don't become sedentary. Zaan even has some ideas for helping sustaining their number without them having to change to a sedentary lifestyle, like said in >>43608405>>43610418I posted it >>43607632 here.>>43610425Maka is amazingly soft.>>43610312You didn't forget, but you don't have any leads.>>43610477Yes. They're tough.>>43610498No news on that front.>>43610600Which one guy?Also, I'll give you 2 XP for the thread.
>>43610498That's actually something I wondered but put on the backburner>>43610490EF is Peleps Deled the master of the pinnacle?Or was he just a grunt DB mook working for the Wyld Hunt at the time?
>>43610648He's not the master of the pinnacle (yet). if anything you got the idea that he was sent to Tianna for his unbecoming behavior.Of course, considering how much stress the Realm is going through right now, a lot of things are probably going to change soon...
>>43610640EF what's Irene's hair like, long and straight or is it wavy?
>>43610640>Considering you have Lunars with you, you're fairly sure their influence is going to make sure the barbarians stay barbarian and don't become sedentary.But aren't Lunars behind the thousand streams? It's not like they're against becoming sedentary at all.
>>43610613>>43610640I don't remember the writer's name, the one who wrote the Steelshard interlude? There was one merc in it who talking about trying to grab Maka during the mock battle
>>43610696Our Lunars in particular are though it seems.
How much can they even do to keep their barbarians barbarians? if city life is simply easier I doubt many people will freely live a sucky life just out of pride.
>>43610677I'm on to your game old man, you're gonna bring Deled back with a larger strikeforce of immaculate monks with deled as the new Master of the Pinnacle.
>>43610699>>43610613Hans. From this:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xUpclvpqYSzHiSp1IaVY9AwMd5_AXw_pqhfLCtyyvM0/edit?usp=sharingNot the writefag who did it, but I was looking it up.
Can we have a beauty salon day?
>>43610677https://my.mixtape.moe/qusodl.pngPrototype Irene for now, I'll keep working on her and everyone else when I canThanks for the thread EF, bye bye.
>>43610761I actually like that idea, should be as fun as the dress shopping day.
>>43610696Zaan and Talon are more Wardens of Gaia types, Urban/civilized TSR works are more the Winding Path efforts.
>>43610761I'm waiting for the onsen scene after a day of hard training with Nysela.
>>43610820I don't think Gaia cares much, considering she left Creation behind.
>>43610129I think improving their living standards would get rid of the nastier stuff they have to do to survive.Heck, giving them more trade partners and more people who want to , err, "increase the genepool" might be enough
>>43610761We'll have to prepare for the wedding somehow.This will be super cute.
>>43610843The Lunar faction, buddy. Focus on naturalism and belief that barbarianistic ways are the true path for mankind, which is why they tend to clash with Winding Path types, whose vision of the TSR is human advancement and the power of civilisation.
>>43610490>I don't kinow, who did you invite?Maka would invite her family, but alas. Everyone able to show up that she knows is in the island already.I guess it's more "Who did Amata invite?" Tia has her lunar friends, but Amata has an entire host of gods. Mikahil might want to have certain deities invited too, like the god of gambling.
>>43610891so, they're the faction that's wrong? Got it.
>>43610843Don't bring that up, you'll make Luna sad. Are you trying to depress the one Incarnae that still pays attention to creation on a regular basis?
>>43610875I hope so, I wish we could've gotten to it this thread, but alas...
>>43610287Thanks for running!Tia totaly nailed this bet, eh?
>>43610683Long and straight.>>43610696The Thousand Streams is generally about creating a new successful civilization, not about creating a successful SEDENTARY civilization.In any case, Tia doesn't seem to care about the Thousand Streams, and Talon did a half-hearted attempt which you accidentally wrecked when you turned this island into a mess of Exalted, so, at this point, neither of their tribes is actively part of the Thousand Streams River project.>>43610699Oh, him.We can say that it happened in the middle of the fight and then Maka knocked him into the middle of next week."Worth it." was his comment when he regained the ability to talk.>>43610747Whatever they're doing, it's working. Keep in mind that, on average, a hunter-gatherer lives a much easier life than a farmer as far as toughness of labor and spare time go, and is also more free to travel and pursue personal interests.Of course, a hunter-gatherer requires not just a lot more land than a farmer to sustain himself, but he must necessarily live in a society where most if not all are hunter-gatherers as well. Go too far into the division and specialization of labor, and suddenly things change.>>43610891Pretty much.>>43610903That's a comfortable point of view coming from someone living in 21st century Earth, but we're talking about a fantasy world full of magical people.Here, the conditions are different and, after spending some time with the Black Fangs, even Maka has to wonder if it applies, or if the argument for a barbarian way of life has some sense to it.Or if, maybe, the future is a balance of the two. If it is, a place like Tianna where both can try and coexist side by side might be the right place where to test it out.>>43610761>>43610875It might happen, but I want to have next thread be 100% for the wedding.>>43610942Let's be honest, you mostly let her win.
>>43610900>God of Gambling is ultra-nice with Tia>He had bet three temples that she would win her bet with Maka
>>43610962>Let's be honest, you mostly let her win.Yeah, but that doesn't mean she isn't allowed to feel good about winning.Unless she decides to rub it in, then all bets are off.
>>43610994What idiot god or sidereal would gamble against the god of gambling?
>>43611142Tia or Mikahil could.
>>43611142>Mik wanted toA solar probably
>>43611142Being a god of gambling doesn't mean they always win. Beside, there is probably a god of people who suck at gambling, out here.
I say leave them as they are. Normal humans, just can't operate effective in large numbers without someone protecting from magic effects.The main reason the Thousand Streams project never went anywhere is it started from a wrong direction. It should have asked what would a truly independent civilization need, then built the culture around that.At a guess everyone being forced trained to the maximum level in what they are most talented at, regardless of personal enjoyment. Learning custom martial arts styles, to further improve, and being inducted into sorcery, to learn spells to improve beyond even that.
>>43611642>The main reason the Thousand Streams project never went anywhere is it started from a wrong direction. It should have asked what would a truly independent civilization need, then built the culture around that.The main reason nearly every case is experimental is that nobody ever has a clue what that would be.
>>43609094In time I think?I'm against not buying the charm, it's a great dice adder especially if we're going into our nation building arc.
>>43607830>It's quite hard to disguise yourself effectively, but Radiant's a pro, and with her help you manage to pull it off convincingly.>Radiant trying bind Maka's makasI'm sorry we couldn't see this.
>>43611765I really want to, the Makas refuse to be restrained
>>43605973>>"...No. Not really. Just... you're the one you should be. You're the Zenith. You're a paragon, an example, a leader, and a moral compass for everyone." She giggles. "Though your own sense of morals has some screws loose sometime."That's really sweet
>>43611886Amata has been really trying to win the best girl award.