For House & Dominion: Civil War Quest http://houseanddominion.wikia.com/wiki/House_%26_Dominion_Complete_Archivehttp://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=House%20and%20DominionYou are Sonia Reynard, a General in the Factions Alliance Fleet and a Knight Commander of the House of Jerik-Dremine, but not for much longer.For the past week you've battled Aries and House Erid forces loyal to Baron Ukalah following their attack on Dreminth. Had things gone right for them they might have been able to annex the outer colonies of your House. Yes the expeditionary fleet would have returned eventually allowing you to out gun them once again but by then it would have been too late. Instead more than a third of the House Erid military joined your side, giving your House a chance to turn things around. The Earl and the government have returned to Dreminth now that in invasion scare is over and you're finally standing in beneath the dome of the capital's main hall. There are not nearly as many officers and Knights present as there would usually be from an expeditionary fleet returning home. Security remains tight and a large portion of those present, here and in the other adjoining halls, are nobles from House Erid. The once larger House has already unofficially joined yours. The respective planetary governors have capitulated and are each working to ensure their PDF's remain under control. Desertions among the Erid forces that had begun after the fleet crippled the Zeus in deep space have increased dramatically.For the most part, the crews of Knights like Captain Xisoth have remained intact. They had already gone out of their way to recruit with the possible change in government in mind. Their crews were loyal to them, not so much their House.
>>42455812FOR HOUSE AND DOMINION
>>42455812FOR HOUSE AND DOMINION!Aw, yeah we gonna get promotions now.
>>42455812FOR SALVAGE AND SURVEYAlso, did we learned how Erid spy managed to get into our vault?
FOR HOUSE AND DOMINION!>>42455812>PDF'sI keep seeing acronyms written that way. Is that really correct and PDFs is the wrong plural?Also: Nearly caught up again. Happy to play again after a couple of missed threads.
>>42455812FOR HOUSE AND BARONY
For House and Dominion! Time to cut the cake and get promoted edition!
>>42455812For House and What do you mean I'm being charged with Treason!?
>>42455812Things to do???:-Chat with Eldal. See if Krath can tail the two cloaked terrorist ships. Also reward since he's aided the house in its time of need. Land on Rioja, a lodge and an orchard maybe?-Ber'helum. Thank the Duke for his assistance. Offer R&D team project to do the cooling laser.Anything else?
The former heads of state have held their titles in name only for perhaps a few years. Still, formalities must be observed, and as the first order of business the Earl of House Erid officially surrenders to Jerik-Dremine.To the surprise of a few Earl Jerik allows his counterpart to keep much of their personal land holdings and offers them a position as a planetary governor. The former Earl declines, choosing instead to retire.Many of the Knights and officers that sided with Desh Xisoth are promoted after swearing allegiance. Xisoth himself is made a Knight Commander and is promised to be made Baron of the former Erid Capital.Nobles that defected to your side later in the fighting are for the most part allowed to keep their holdings though the occasional one is not for one reason or another. You find out later that many of those who lost their holdings had been marked by intel as untrustworthy or potential threats. All of the other nobles will have to be dealt with over time on a case by case basis and were not asked to be present. Many have grievances over the loss of property to Aries over the years having been forced into selling.Finally it's time for those among your House to be given their due. With Xisoth's promotion and possibly another from the Erid ranks joining him a few months from now, Jerik-Dremine has an overabundance of Knight Commanders. "Knight Commander Sonia Reynard, step forward!"You step forward, stopping at a particular marker in the floor you were told about before hand."You have proven yourself an able field commander and valorous leader, be it in space or on the ground. In your years of service you have proven that you are not afraid to lead from the front, but also know it is not always best to do so. I would only ask you remember that when it comes to politics doing nothing can be seen as picking a side."[ ] Nod in response[ ] Do nothing[ ] Other / What say?
>>42455812We won the first of many civil war! Hooray!
>>42456293[x] Do nothingBut which side are we picking by doing nothing now, peanut gallery!?
>>42456293>[ ] Other / What say?"My side has always been that of Jerik-Dremaine. But thank you for the advice anyway."
>>42456293>[X] Nod in response
>>42456293[X] Nod in responseJust let it slide. Get hyped for promotions
>>42456293>[ ] Nod in responseI wonder what our spoils of war will be? Lots of land? A shipyard?
You nod in response and the Earl resumes."It is my pleasure to elevate your title to that of Baron! With everything that has been happening it's difficult to be certain which world you would be best suited to command from, and which one you would prefer. What world within the borders of our House do you wish to be made Baron of?"[ ] Rioja[ ] Alaior[ ] One of the worlds in South Reach[ ] One of the worlds in the Outer Colonies[ ] Other?
>>42456644[ ] AlaiorRioja was the target before but this planet is simply much more valuable than Rioja will ever be. Rioja can still be our pet project and we can get the planet back up and running , seeing as we can still make a lot of money from it, but I think Alaior would be more valuable in the long run.
>[ ] RiojaConsidering amount of cash and favors we sunk here choosing something else would be unwise.
>>42456644Big decision. Last I followed the discussions, Rioja seemed the best choice, but that may be outdated information.Alaior was the big planet with the Baron’s shipyards, right? Anything else interesting about it?
>>42456644[ ] AlaiorOverall much better development, much MUCH larger population, much better space infrastructure and much closer to allies.Rioja can't even hold a stick to it. It's like comparing Berlin or New York to a provincial town in Kenya.
>>42456687>>42456776Baron is a military rank, we wouldn't get any benefit from Alaior which Rioja wouldn't produce as well. If it was a choice of Governorship, on the other hand...
>>42456694>Sunk cost fallacy>Assuming we will get nothing out of Rioja, just because we choose another planet to governTo give a fuller reply: It is always best to look at your *current* list of options with associated costs and rewards. We have sunk money into Rioja because it *used to be* the best choice, but that does not mean it is the best choice now. Just because we already invested money does not automatically make it the best choice.As an example: Just because you already invested thousands of dollars to keep your old car running doesn’t mean you should keep your old car forever. You may still wish to change to a new car if that is better. The same applies to planets.For the second part: We already have huge influence on Rioja without being the governor and we will keep having some influence even if someone else becomes governor of it. Especially, if it is one of our friends.One might even argue, that choosing Rioja as a "pet project", as another one called it, will allow us to have a broader influence overall, because we will then have some power over two planets instead of just concentrating on a single one. With our current growth, this may be a far better choice because it allows us to more easily expand.
>>42456822Did you read what Baron actually does?>In most cases a Baron is responsible for the military forces of an important world, system or surrounding sector. While they can assume command of a world's Planetary Defense Forces the ships and troops they usually command are comprised of the mobile forces which can be used to invade or defend worlds beyond their own. Thats it. It will not give us any automatic influence on Alaior or it's industry; In fact, it is highly likely that our political opponents will place antagonistic Governor just to keep us in check.
>>42456644[ ] RiojaWe require a power base, we've had in house factions plotting against us.
>>42456006>Is that really correct and PDFs is the wrong plural?I have no idea. Probably not. Despite being the only language I'm currently fluent in, English was not one of my stronger subjects in school. I learned more from reading novels and National Geographic than in school. >>42455956>Also, did we learned how Erid spy managed to get into our vault?None of the Erid nobility know anything about a spy being sent after you. The few who knew you'd been arrested said that they were too busy pointing and laughing at your House for having locked up a commander who knew how to fight Neeran.>>42456707>Alaior was the big planet with the Baron’s shipyards, right? Anything else interesting about it?Alaior is the only habitable world in the system of the same name. It has three small moons which cause just enough gravity well disruption to be bothersome for traders. The moons didn't make much of an appearance last time because of Archivald timing the arrival and direction of the fleet to miss them. It is located very near to the main trade lane that passes through House Erid space.Alaior was the capital of House Erid for several years after it's expansion before the capital was moved to a more central and developed location. It currently has a population of 2.8 Billion. Working up the rest of the system.>>42456731N/A>>42456890You would get some land on Alaior. They're not going to make someone the Baron of a planet they have no holdings on. It would be nowhere near what you have on Rioja obviously.
>>42456890Alaior does have a larger population and heavier orbital industry from which we can buy ships and recruit crews and marines from, though.And if they place an antagonistic Governor... well, I'm sure we'll undertake plenty of local good will projects.>>42456707seconding 'big decision' and general interesting information request.
>>42457014Actually, after thinking about it some more, it is not quite as cut-and-dried if you consider political ramifications.Alaior have large population base, shipyards, industry. But it is also potentially rebellious and ship&equipment production would be under control of Governor rather than Baron.Which means we'll have to diplomance and/or invest our own funds. again. On the bright side, our superior will like it more than Rioja since we are basically turning latter into micro-House.
>>42457010>Dreminth N/AI'll vote [x] Rioja then.
>>42456644[ ] Rioja"I look at our House and see plenty of strong worlds. This is why I pick a weak one, so that the whole may be stronger for it and so that our holdings in the Run will be secured."
>>42457010Alaior (K6 V Orange Main Sequence)-rock-Colony (Alaior) (0.71 AU)-rock-rock-ice dwarf-ice dwarf-belt-ice giant (28 AU)Red Dwarf star binary 1100 AU distantDue to system resources and development Alaior's production and mining can't expand as much. There isn't as much room for growth but you have much more to start off with.Rioja has more natural resources and could potentially support a larger population some day, but it will take a long time to develop. You're still a decade from the end of terraforming.Both are on or near trade lanes which could allow you to some day declare yourself a Viscount or have that title thrust upon you.If I'm reading this right it's 6 votes for Rioja, 2 for Alaior?
>>42456644>[ ] Riojaif we pick this would there be a lot of future contention with the future governor given the large amount of land we own?
>>42457010> The few who knew you'd been arrested said that they were too busy pointing and laughing at your House for having locked up a commander who knew how to fight Neeran.We should find out what was up with the Erid connection to the kidnapping attempt on Sonia and then Bekka.Those involved are probably worth killing.
>>42457010>None of the Erid nobility know anything about a spy being sent after you. The few who knew you'd been arrested said that they were too busy pointing and laughing at your House for having locked up a commander who knew how to fight Neeran.Hmmm. Must be Aries work, then, or an insider job. Did we checked if our immortality serum is still good?
>>42457418>You're still a decade from the end of terraforming.I thought it was about three years away? I'll try to find the post it was mentioned in.
>>42457010>they were too busy pointing and laughing at your House for having locked up a commander who knew how to fight Neeran.This gives me a kind of warm feeling in my chest. They accidentally praised us while mocking the House.>>42457418>If I'm reading this right it's 6 votes for Rioja, 2 for Alaior?7 to 2 if you count >>42457446
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>>42457446>if we pick this would there be a lot of future contention with the future governor given the large amount of land we own?Probably not for awhile since the current one was Sonia's recommendation. After it is habitable there will probably be more difficulty as influential nobles try to get that duty.>>42457528At the time it was 3 years before people could go outside for short periods without a suit. 8-9 for terraforming to finish. I said ten because I was rounding down in an attempt to simply the planet's status.The Rioja wiki page has a Terraforming status in its info box.http://houseanddominion.wikia.com/wiki/RiojaSo it looks like we're going with Rioja?
>>42457588Soon anon, first we bring ruin to his family and watch him suffer. Then we move in for the kill once he is irrelevant to the House.>>42457640>So it looks like we're going with Rioja?So it seems. On another note, did we steal that emergency fund from the Baron when we captured him? If we did I figured we could use part of that money to start up a black project side for a hidden Recon Power Armor factory that can supply Sonia, the House and Intel. Since obviously we need more of those if the last secret mission is anything to go by. What with the lack of them.
>>42457719I thought about too after the thread autosaged. Technically, I think we did get him off the planet!>Hidden recon armor factoryThat sounds like something that no one would sell us the tech for. ever.Now a power cell facility could work, especially if we make a mass production version of that captured lord's armor.Speaking of him... we should find out who the hell we captured.
"Hail Sonia Reynard, Baron of Rioja!" the Earl calls out, echoed in turn by everyone present.Play the victory music!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMxa69JjJYQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svd1po1Et9Y(Your selection here)Nobody is in a hurry to spoil your moment for once. There won't be any other promotions to Baron today. After your new rank insignia are attached to your dress uniform you are directed to wave for the cameras. The media and censoring people will of course need to check everything before it's broadcast and will try to make it look good. Once things have quieted down a bit the Earl gets your attention and asks another question. "For your service to the House is there anything that you would like as a reward from the campaign to topple Baron Ukalah?"[ ] One of the smaller shipyards ( Aries Assault corvette, Transport, Attack corvette)[ ] Production model of the cloaked ship whose prototype you rescued[ ] A portion of Baron Ukalah's SP Torpedo stockpile[ ] Mining rights in Erid territory[ ] Salvage rights (Up to and including Medium Cruiser)[ ] Money[ ] Other
>>42458328Can we maybe have that Aries base where the Protocloak was stored and combine it with a shipyard?
>>42458328[x] Shipyard (Transport?)[x] Option to buy out captured salvage craftDo the shipyards come with seized Aries production data/licenses?It might be fun to sell DHI-equipment variants of Aries ships for less than Aries does.
>>42458328Actually, can we get a technology/license for a piece of Aries tech, like AM torpedo or drones?
>>42458328Well, that's definitely less than I expected. Do we get any land in erid space?>ffs load captcha
>>42458078>That sounds like something that no one would sell us the tech for. ever.Well we don't have to buy it so to speak. Underhand dealings. Bribing. Blackmailing. Hiring criminals to steal it. Stealing it ourselves. There are several opportunities for us to get it. And considering the House did get access to Medium Jump Jet armor schematics then I don't see why they couldn't get access to Recon armor. I mean it's not SP tech, everyone has cloaking tech.Or perhaps we could call in all our favors with the Rovinar and get a deal out of that?>>42458328[ ] LandLand is the most valuable commodity in the Dominion and we could always use more of it. I already assume we will be getting some because of the displaced former Erid nobles.[ ] Athena class BattleshipsThose things where like a wreaking ball and I would not say no to those[ ] Athena Battleship shipyard?I love these ships and would kill for the ability to make them.[ ] Shipyard, Transports.Transports is good money.
>>42458434>By the way, TSTG, is our House's SPARTAN program are result of Vieona serum research?You do have the clearance to find out now. Did you want to ask intel?>>42458461>Do the shipyards come with seized Aries production data/licenses?Any Aries production licenses would be a legal technically at this point. Just because their assets in your space have been nationalized doesn't mean they won't be trying to sue all of you to stop production of their designs. Since it will be next to impossible to get hold of future upgrade data for subsequent Marks of the Hades class the House plans to finish out the corvettes already in production. A few extras might be made for testing or to reinforce assault corvette wings. Once that's done the yards will be switched out for DHI and Dominion designs you have the full data and licenses for. Your Mk V assault corvettes are just as good as theirs.>>42458529Intel is trying to get as much data on Aries weapons systems as possible especially those that haven't gone up for sale yet. The ship that launched a single heavy antimatter torpedo fled the region after firing its weapon. It may only have single shot capability at the moment. Arron has been searching for it with the Guild refit EC-K. It most likely retreated to an Aries facility in another House.You can't currently get new Aries equipment licenses because they've blacklisted your House in protest. The House and its allies have been studying Aries starfighter drones for several years now. It should be possible to get a license for a related but inferior drone design.>>42458561>Do we get any land in erid space?Yes, a bit. Some on Alaior or one of the other colonies in its sector. You can ask for more as your option.
>>42458798Was our family allowed to attend the ceremony this time? Has rufaro been recovered? Did valeri get some land? Does the heavy cruiser yard count as small because of its low output?Sorry for the crappy post, I have to type on my mobile.
[X] Shipyard (Aries Assault Corvette)Assault Corvettes are the shit. It's clear by now that they will be the centerpiece of any fleet in the modern era. It's vital that we secure a means to supply and maintain these ships for Rioja. And from how damn fast Aries were building them and given that they have used cutting edge tech in all other parts of the Barons forces we might get another level 4 yard for them which we probably can't even buy right now.
>>42458798>Did you want to ask intel?Yea let's do it.
So, interesting tech is not available? In that case, >[X] Salvage rights (Up to and including Medium Cruiser)
>>42458978Reminder that we own the only Level 4 Corvette yard in the entire House. Capable of producing more than 2 Corvettes each day.>Did you want to ask intel?Yes I want to open the mystery box and get to know secret stuff.
>>42458798>they have blacklisted our House in protestWe should personally file an After Action Report on the Zeus, citing a glaring lack of cost-effectiveness vs anti-Neeran combat effectiveness.The Terrans should receive a detailed list of all the items Aries provided to a Dominion House. Especially prototypes.And there need to be accusations that part of Aries actively and knowingly provided terrorists the equipment and motivation to sabotage key infrastructure (DHI facilities) that damaged the ability of several Houses to actively participate in anti-Neeran Operations. In short, Aries has actively supported the invading Neeran Empire, and should be investigated. Toss those around the Factions Alliance, especially to everyone we've worked with in the past.>they won't be trying to sue all of you to stop production of their designsWe should set a team to identifying things Aries stole from other designs and stealing it in turn for our own designs.And a series of shell companies producing Aries ships that just shifts ownership around as Aries tries to sue them could be a fun side project. After all, they can't really stop private resale of those ships once they're bought from the shipyard by another party, and the FA likely won't care if they're getting an Aries design at discount.
And I deleted my post again.>>42458599>Hidden recon armor factoryYour House currently supports the Light Power Cell Armor program for its future Command / Recon needs. It is a much cheaper system. You would be farther off expanding your holographics production facility on Rioja to produce the camo systems themselves. They're very specialised pieces of equipment though so output will be low.>And considering the House did get access to Medium Jump Jet armor schematics then I don't see why they couldn't get access to Recon armor.Your House supported the development program for that armor and provided R&D specialists. The new medium jump jet armor is intended to be much easier to produce than previous iterations of power armor used by the Dominion.>>42458599> I already assume we will be getting some because of the displaced former Erid nobles.>Was our family allowed to attend the ceremony this time? Yes but Bekka was unable to attend.>Has rufaro been recovered? Yes.>Did valeri get some land? Are you going to push for him to be Knighted?>Does the heavy cruiser yard count as small because of its low output?No. The House is going to need it to put the Zeus back together once salvage teams can move it. You already have a heavy cruiser yard and they would rather not centralize all large scale ship production.
>>42459167>ValerieDoes he want to get knighted? We should probably ask him first. I was thinking to at least get him some land for legal protection and maybe a decent pension.
>>42459167>bekka unable to attendWhat's keeping her busy?
PROMOTIONS WHEEE. Have to leave in a bit to attend a birthday dinner/movie.>By the way, TSTG, is our House's SPARTAN program are result of Vieona serum research?>You do have the clearance to find out now. Did you want to ask intel?Intel is usually need to know but we have Baron clearance now. Is there anything ongoing we should know about now? I get the feeling that we could have made better decisions in the past if we had been given the whole picture.
Sad that we can't produce Aries designs. The Dominion needs better Battleship designs, the ones we have are either modified battlecruisers or freakin ancient. Or, well, Aries designs. I think that Battleships are going to be fairly important in the future since they seem to be the smallest shipclass that you can put enough gun on to counter Assault Corvettes. Allowing them to escort Heavies and Mediums with a chance of keeping them safe from the Corvette menace.
>>42459113>You wouldn't download a ship>We should set a team to identifying things Aries stole from other designs and stealing it in turn for our own designs.Aside from their original incident with Iratar long ago, they don't seem to have really stolen anything of late. They have bought production rights and data from a slew of smaller companies. Tarketta sold them data they owned about the early pre-production assault corvette they worked on with DHI. DHI didn't see a real issue with it at the time as little of the ship's key structural features were used in the mass produced Dominion corvettes. You're able to quietly talk to Tatiana Bogdanić, the older woman with intel you'd been dealing with regarding the recapture of the cloaked prototype."My people saw those commandos in action on that station. They were performing well above any normal unit out just of training. It it were a small team I could have seen it but thirty of them? What are they, Spartans?""While the ancient greeks did know a thing or two about intensive training, you're right that alone isn't enough. You recovered a few interesting samples from Gesaur one of which was being tested on prisoners there at the time.""Do you mean to tell me-""Keep your voice down." The older woman says sternly.You clear your throat then switch to a whisper. "Do you mean to tell me that you're putting that stuff in people? Recruits?""It's not that simple. We've been working on it with other groups over the years to make sure that it was safe and worked. If exposed at the correct age it can give operatives a tremendous boost to their reaction speed. It will work on people that are older just not as well.Eventually it will be made available to the Alliance for their permanent officers as an alternative to Republic combat drugs.">What say?I'll probably be putting the reward thing into the next survey.
>>42459733>>What say?"Neat. What’s the required age range? Does it drop much for those just beyond?"Too bad the sister didn’t get any of that. Unless of course it turns out to be unsafe after all…
>>42459733Any side effects? Any unexpected results? Have the long term results been clear yet? When can we get our dose? Super Sonia when?
>>42459733Oh THAT stuff?!Isn't that the serum we had to smuggle out of the lab after a (probably) ruling house commando killstealed Knight Dayton with an x-ray laser? What thread was that? I don't remember much other than the mengele lab and them slave chipping people.
Uh, with all these accelerator serums and anti-radiation innoculations and life extending juices, I think we should take a look at that tissue regeneration artifact we got from Svidur.
>>42459733What's the probability of mid or long term complications? Can I get a production license?
>>42459694The focus on assault corvettes does shift the in-universe meta a bit for the Terrans. I doubt the Kavarians or Republic are going to really care all that much. And the Dominion has always been corvette focused.In time, we'll see the corvette-focused improvements begin to filter up. Better maneuver drives for larger ships, better weapons tracking systems to hit more maneuverable corvettes, etc.And then the Terrans will probably shift off of corvettes again, as the Dominion will generally always out-swarm them on the corvette stage.
>>42459808>>42459824"For humans the age range is 16-18 preferably, which means we can't recruit until towards to end of that age bracket, and since some people grow more slowly or quickly we might not reach them in the ideal range.As for side effect there can be issues with the sensory organs and the brain being unable to process quickly enough for things to line up properly. Our House has only had one instance that required additional augmentation surgery to correct problems. Most people get used to it. There may be additional long term effects that haven't shown up yet so we're banned form administering it to existing command level officers.""No deaths?""Not since we started our program. Do remember House Kharbos was mass testing it on prisoners they'd put slave chips in."For all the good it did them when the pirates turned around and implanted all the captured Kharbos personnel."It's been theorized that there may be interactions with existing medical conditions we can't currently plan for. Part of the reason our recruitment pool is still small."You're half tempted to ask about interactions between this stuff and your anti-veckron radiation injections but that might be above even her pay grade."What other Houses are we working on this with?" you ask next. "Actually I don't know for certain, just that Kharbos stole the original Human version from the Terrans."Oh. Oh that's great.
>>42459994http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/19114176/>>42460146>I think we should take a look at that tissue regeneration artifact we got from Svidur.You know this just gave me a great idea.Nah it would never work.>>42458599>[ ] Athena class Battleships>Those things where like a wreaking ball and I would not say no to thoseThe captured ones are rather beat up. You could ask for the salvage rights to a few of them.>Athena Battleship shipyard?Sorry there's only the one captured yard that can build them so the House is reluctant to part with it. They're doing what they can to copy that data.The crippled Zeus is going to need a lot of work to move. Did you want to put forward RSS as a suggested company to carry it out? Would you rather they just consult? Or leave things up to London and the people he's hired?
>>42460594>[x] Leave things up to London and the people he's hired
>>42460594Notify London of the job opportunity, he'll handle the rest. We need to come up with something to do for our anchorage anyway. Are any other planets in stations like the one we just finished building?
>>42460594>>42460594[x] Leave things up to London and the people he's hiredNever hurts to put in a bid, but the Zeus seems to be in a bad location compared to where our various assets are.>House is copying Athena Battleship data.inb4 Fastbattleship with Athena pylons [spoilers] Probably with the positioning of the Dominion Battlecruiser/Battleship's, because DOMINION [/spoiler]
>>42460322I think the dominion endgame would be plasma assault cruisers. Ships will happily spin themselves to pieces if given enough thruster power, so the main limit on a ship is how much g forces the crew can actually survive. A larger ship with more mass will take longer to accelerate but it also has more room and power that can be diverted to inertial dampers, so the crew can actually work under HIGHER accelerations than a smaller ship.You would need certain design principles and technology to make it work though.> High-G equipment, engines, weapons and the like that can be thrown around without damage.> Full-hull repulsor based engines allowing it to "fall" forward in lieu of traditional fusion thrust. Possibly with small fusion engines at the back specifically for added antimatter afterburners.> Like assault corvettes it would have a small crew and would rely more on redundant systems versus field repairs for damage control.> Main engineering and the bridge would be located in the very centre of the ship to minimize rotational forces.> All weapons would be turreted to allow it to take advantage of it's full agility.
JUST FINISHED THE ARCHIVE. JESUS CHRIST.
>>42460594>They're doing what they can to copy that data.Well if we can get a copy of the data then that would be equally good. Get that then we can just slap up 3 level 2 Battleship yards for less than 300 millions to start pumping those babies out at like 3 squadrons a year.Anyways, inform London but let him and Nikolov handle it. They are basically running the company for us so they probably know better than us what it can and can't handle.>>42461322Congratulations, took me like 2 months.
>>42461322Wouldn't have expected anybody to do that at this point. Congratulations!
>>42461249>power that can be diverted to inertial dampers, so the crew can actually work under HIGHER accelerations than a smaller ship.The tech has limits that aren't just needing more power as a requirement. Extra power helps but that alone isn't enough. You tell London about the contract and ask him to look into it. It doesn't take long to hear back."Great news, we're not salvaging the Zeus ourselves, we're contracting people as consultants.""That's better?""Are you kidding? With the ships we would need to send to the homeworlds that's a white elephant contract. It would mean keeping one of our big ships in FTL for a month instead of doing work. Thanks for letting me take care of things on the business side."If you guys want you can be given advice if it would be best to let London or your RSS people handle a situation.>>42460720>We need to come up with something to do for our anchorage anyway.This is the part that I lost, covering for expenses!The project to build the station above Surakeh is almost done and is on time but slightly over budget. Exodus and RSS have developed a bethod of quickly building cheaper tougher stations that could compete with modular station more easily but it threw the budget out of whack a bit. The good news is that the station will actually be making you more money than planned (and the associated taxes for surakeh.) RSS will be able to make back the extra money and then some.Until then the planetary budget is going to be out about 100 million which won't be great for the government.Do you want the let the government deal with the temporary debt and let them get paid back over time, or will you cover the extra expense?SURVEY! surveymonkey com/r/ VQX3K75Back in a bit, I think the neighbour is trying to burn down the building...
>>42461907>If you guys want you can be given advice if it would be best to let London or your RSS people handle a situation.Sure.>Do you want the let the government deal with the temporary debt and let them get paid back over time, or will you cover the extra expense?The Surakeh governor is a pretty decent guy. Maybe we could offer a minimum interest loan from Sonia to the government? There are worse things we could do with 100 million.
>>42461907Wanted to post this earlier but didn't have access to my computer.Some things have already been taken care of but I think there are still some decent ideas in there:http://pastebin.com/0qrSbCMw
>>42461322congrats, did it myself two years ago and took me something like 2 or 3 monts
>>42461907I'm a bit confused on the station question.Are you asking if we should let the government eat a ~100m over-budget cost?I was under the impression we were building the station for RSS/RTS, so wouldn't we eat the costs by default?
>>42462136The promotions thing was a good idea. We -did- say to Tes'us we'd sort something out after the conflict.
>>42462398>I was under the impression we were building the station for RSS/RTS, so wouldn't we eat the costs by default?It is partially for company use. The station it is intended to replace handles a majority of the cargo traffic to and from the surface of Surakeh. It's in the government's best interest to support such a project to help the local economy. It also increases the planet's ability to defend itself against an enemy attack.Because of this the government helped fund construction. Without that help you would not have made as much money this year, especially with the heavy cruiser yard.RE: Promotion for ValeriHe wasn't really expecting it given everything that's happened but would certainly not be against it. He is concerned that it would mean leading troops in the field which is a skill he has not had a great deal of practice with these last few years. If you were to Knight Rufaro as well she would be okay with it. I don't recall you Knighting her already but there are a lot of things to keep track of. There is also the issue of increased public visibility of your bodyguard / double.
>>42462966>. I don't recall you Knighting herWe did a while back.>>35101313 Rufaro is Knighted which she is very excited about as are a number of your other pilots and squadron commanders despite several of them lacking cruisers. This is the first time that the Earl has Knighted any that haven't met that prerequisite
>>42463049It was for capturing the Neeran Heavy Carrier with Eldal.
>>42463067>>42463049Ah, right.Well we can say Valeri earned it this time. Jesus, Rufaro wasn't even on the Dramatis Personae page! They're both Knighted now, less the chance that I'll forget again. So, are you finally going to bury the hatchet with Valeri? It's one thing to tell him that you need him to do his job because that House is in serious danger but things might start to get back to normal now. Well no, normal is never going to happen again. You're a Baron now which makes you a higher profile target than you ever were before. Still, you could fix things up with Valeri or not. Up to you.
>>42463237Try to fix things. At least keep it professional.
>>42463237I have no problems with him or his actions. In my opinion, he did the right thing. It was just unfortunate we got played.
>>42463237>Still, you could fix things up with Valeri or not.I wouldn't mind repairing things, but he'd have to show we can absolutely, one hundred percent put our trust in him again. If anything like before ever comes up again, just go straight to us. He has to know that we'd never directly harm the house unless we had an excellent reason. Maybe one or two more months of leave for him before we settle this though.
>>42463293Agreed.But after this, we should go our seperate ways. We need bodyguards loyal to us personally first, not the House.
>>42460382>>42459733It's a bit meta because we probably haven't Rufaro's report at that point but we should really ask intel to never send Ramírez on a mission where they don't want people to die if it's the easiest or most convenient solution to any kind of problem.The guy probably kills the guys delivering the newspaper to his home for a few weeks instead of cancelling his subscription because it's easier...
Valeri salutes. "Reporting as ordered sir."You return it then glance down at the desk where you've been scribbling notes in an attempt to figure out how to solve this problem."Valeri we need to get some things straightened out. I've just been promoted to Baron, you've just been Knighted... I need to know that I have people I can trust around me in the future. Things are only going to get more dangerous for everyone.If we're ever going to work together again I need to know that you, or anyone else put in the same position as what happened, will come to me first. How am I supposed to know that after something like this?I mean dammit Valeri you should know me better than anyone in the House."There is an awkward silence that seems to stretch on until at last the othe part speaks up. "I've only been a Knight for a day sir, but if it makes any difference I'll give you my word as a Knight of House Jerik-Dremine."You sigh and put your face in your hands. Is this what it was like for Winifred?"Go on vacation for a month or two." You eventually tell him. "If anything happens I'll have you called. I have a ton of meetings with the other Barons over the next few weeks that not even half their bodyguards have clearance to see all the details of.Dismissed."Vqaleri turns to leave then pauses at the office door."Do you want me to kill Fox?"[ ] "Yes."[ ] "I'd like it but that's not something I can afford."[ ] "I'd like it but that's not something the House can afford."
>>42463902>[ ] "I'd like it but that's not something the House can affordIf he was even the start of it which I doubt. No sense killing another knight Valeri. The one or ones who gave him the impetus however?
>>42463902[X] "You know we can't talk about that, Valeri."
>>42463902[x] As much as I'd like it, it would be better to find out who was on the other end of that call, and if it would land him a long enough sentence.
>>42463902>[ ] "I'd like it but that's not something the House can afford.""He's decent enough when it comes to commanding Medium Cruisers, and I have the feeling we'll need more people like that in the future. And who knows who's actually behind the whole thing. I'm willing to cut my losses and focus on what's ahead."
>>42463902>"Do you want me to kill Fox?""No, I'd love to make him pay for what he's done but I'd rather have his stuff than his life."Make salvage, not war.
>>42463902>[X] "I'd like it but that's not something the House can afford."
>Random stuff I'll probably forget if I don't post itCan we build a production facility for LD plasma cannons?Do the new teleporter receivers the Terrans are using still require the entire capsule to be teleported?
"I'd like it but that's not something the House can afford. Besides it would be better to find out who he was working for.">>42464253>Can we build a production facility for LD plasma cannons?Yes you can.There is actually a related business opportunity Ferigold the Fat would like to discuss with you.It involves setting up a manufacturing plant to take part in the Dominion's "Plasma Vanity Project." >Do the new teleporter receivers the Terrans are using still require the entire capsule to be teleported?It can only safely teleport an object acting as a Faraday cage otherwise whatever is inside will not survive. The capsule can be of varying size. Newer capsules are being made smaller where possible so they're less expensive to produce.
>>42464403>Yes you can.>There is actually a related business opportunity Ferigold the Fat would like to discuss with you.>It involves setting up a manufacturing plant to take part in the Dominion's "Plasma Vanity Project."ALL IN.ALL IN.BRIGHT GREEN DOMINION PLASMA BEAMS.
>>42464403Don't really trust ferigold though.
>>42464403>It can only safely teleport an object acting as a Faraday cage otherwise whatever is inside will not surviveSo, the capsule isn't actually the expensive part of the teleporter?>"I'd like it but that's not something the House can afford. Besides it would be better to find out who he was working for.""And seriously, take that vacation. See what your property is like, visit Tourta, do whatever you've always wanted to do. There will be more than enough work for you once you're back."
>>42464403TSTG, would it be possible to put up a dramatis planetae on the wiki?
I haven't read anything in a while did our rifles ever went into production? Are they selling?
>>42464403>LD Plasma Cannon facilitysounds like a decent 'invest in facility designed to expand' deal. With the constant R&D, there are likely to be a number of changes to production.>Ferigold the FatI don't trust the guy, but he certainly has connections.We'd be foolish not to at least hear his proposal out.
>>42464575I've been considering it.Lord Caratacus Friduman Vanderwal has been pulled out of stasis and fixed up by the medics over the past few days. He's not back to 100% yet but security is treating him as a serious threat. According to House Erid personnel he's one of Ukalah's in-laws and was with their special forces for many years. Officially he retired before the war but he couldn't resist the offer to help steal the prototype ship from an old rival. Back when he was serving he was one of the upper tier fencers in House Erid space.The old man wants to negotiate a ransom deal with you."This should be good." You mutter when you walk in, taking a seat a safe distance from the bed rigged with restraining fields. "Ah Knight Reynard so good of you to come see me.""Baron Reynard." you correct him."Ah, my apologies, I can't see so well from over here. I didn't realise it was you I was fighting at the time. Most people prefer organic replacements for their limbs, not synthetic components tacked on, meshed and stretched to fit in with living tissue. I've tried cybernetics once before, it was really an unnerving experience. I have seen people go the other way, full augmentation for their limbs. I can see the advantages. You though, anyone else and that trick would have knocked out your arm and I would have cut you to pieces in about twelve seconds." "That long?" you reply sarcastically."Well, I was being generous. As you are no doubt aware from my undignified gaspings I have access to resources which may or may not be adequate to pay a ransom for my release. If that isn't enough I do have skills that could be of value despite my age. I've been made aware that my House has finally succumed to it's ailments. Can't say I didn't see it coming. So if you're not interested, there may be others in your government that might be willing to get some use out of me.">What say?
>>42464659>Lets talk about your resources.I don't really care about him.
>>42464659"If you could elaborate upon the 'resources' and 'skills' section, I'm sure we could potentially make some progress."
>>42464659>>What say?"If you haven't made a lot of personal enemies in this House, I can actually see things working out for you. However, you'll have to pay for my repair costs for the arm and armor, not matter what kind of deal you'll manage to negotiate."He's good a what he does. Unless he has some pathological hatred for Jerik-Dremine, he can probably contribute significantly to our intelligence services. Is he Sonia's personal hostage, or house property?
>>42464788Basically this.I find the guy personally interesting, but I don't believe we could ever trust him, and I'm included to believe that Intel would agree.
>>42464659God I'm tempted to just say 'shoot him with plasma pistol'.>>42464788This does sound solid, though.Do we know if his general holdings have been seized yet, or if he would be up for the unspecified review?
>>42464659How do you feel about J-D? No time for lies please.
>>42464640Yes and yes. There are 3 versions:Mass Driver Rifle / Reynard CustomReynard Rifle M (Mass production RSS Mass driver Rifle)Reynard Rifle L (Cheap stripped down version)The larger one Sonia continues to use is the Reynard Custom and it sees the occasional limited production run. The Reynard Rifle M meanwhile is a modified version requested by the House Marine forces with a shorter barrel and a less complicated magazine. It's very reliable and there have been few complaints. Lastly the Reynard Rifle L was a chopped down knock off your lawyers caught. You won a lawsuit and took payment in the form of their factory which was in poor shape. With some proper maintenance it's output has since increased and so has quality control. The L model omits the bullpup 20mm magazine, instead having a rear port in the stock where a single 20mm round can be inserted. Given how powerful most of the custom rounds are this is usually all most soldiers need in the field.
>>42464969There's also the gatling variant we make which the alliance wanted to buy 50,000 of iirc.
>>42464969>You won a lawsuit and took payment in the form of their factory which was in poor shapeDid we actually sue them? I thought we simply bought their factory after threatening a lawsuit.
>>42464659Skills are tempting...I mean I suspect he will try to work for his own goals regardless if they screw us over or help us, but the old fox has the potential of making a interesting character, and perhaps a in with the really old boys networks of small houses that may even reach into Terran space.And Old boys networks tend to be surprisingly powerful if used right.
>>42465033I guess you settled. The lawyers got involved and you got their factory, those were the key points I chose to remember.>>42464788"I have money, investments under false names, valuable material hidden away for a rainy day. You'd be surprised how much a good quality FTL system costs. Well, you might not but most people are. I must have close to 100 million in emergency funds. I assume by now your House has taken all of my holdings? If that nephew of mine hasn't escaped and promised it to Aries by now.""I'm still waiting for skills.""Diplomacy and subterfuge. I can stab people in the back with the best of them, be it with a sword or with words. Client's preference."He tries to shrug but encounters resistance from the restrains, wincing from the pain. Not fully healed yet or he's faking."On that front I'm actually a licensed lawyer. Decided to keep it up despite the retirement. Never know when it might come in handy.">>42464898"Not especially thrilled we lost if we're being perfectly honest. We were almost ready to take you out back in my Father's day but no, we had to make nice with the Ruling House. No way to fix that now. Even a rebellion would just make things worse.Look, Ukalah thought he was playing the long game. Win enough victories, get enough people loyal to him and not Aries and maybe things would get better. Build up a strong enough force then he'd make deals with one of the larger Houses and take all of the local Aries assets from inside. I can't say it was the best plan but I was only coming out of retirement for the one mission you see. As long as he left my hedge fund alone that was enough.""So you're expecting me to trust you after all of that?" you ask.He gives you a quizzical look. "I never said you had to trust me. I fully expected that Bogdanić woman to have a bomb sewn into my skull by now."
>>42465451I like that guy.
>>42458328>>42458978>>42459082Well if we could ask for the shipyard/license/whatever to produce the Cloak Ship we rescued, that would be awesome.If we build them we will get a good in with Intel through being a supplier, and able to influence how our fleet makeup will look beyond our assault corvettes.>>42460322Actually, depending on how the Dominion Civil Strife ends I would like to see if we cannot make it so its not just Assault Corvettes that Dominion holds the numbers and perhaps edge in, but Attack Cruisers as well, and make Sonia Style Attack Wings the typical doctrine for Dominion, going for fast and first strike and high mobility.Probably with our development of cloacks see if we can not eventually get them cloaks too.The high power of the reactors for either Assault Corvettes and Attack Cruisers ought to have enough juice to run cloaks and their smaller profile and size compared to other ships ought to make them easier to design in a low emission and generally stealthy form to facilitate not only the fast strike but also a first strike and improve the strike and fade we like to do with our regular drive by.
Reynard Assault Corvette aka modified Aries Assault Corvette equipped with RSS Modified Liquid Driveplate Plasma Cannon when
TSTG, how is the Ruling House / the wider Dominion reacting to our annexation of House Erid? There surely must be gripes about it given the total ban imposed by the Ruling House.
>>42465451"I caught your nephew as well. Have you been allowed to contact any family that isn't responsible for selling their House out to a Terran entity?"He is an in-law to Ulakah, so he is related to the Baron's wife? Or married to his Aunt?I'm tempted to say we random this guy on a few conditions:- ~50-75 million random- He put his skills to use discrediting and disgracing Knight Fox- He owes us 1 other favor regarding his skillset, to be called upon godfather style.- We'll be keeping his armor and camo system, at least for now. (Both so we can study the customization and because I don't think the House would approve of this guy owning the armor or camo system) It is possible we'll sell it to him at a later date?If he is a lawyer, it might be worth putting him on quiet retainer for RSS or Sonia personally, just so that he's legally bound to keep anything confidential?
>>42465599>if we could ask for the shipyard/license/whatever to produce the Cloak Ship we rescued, that would be awesome.You can ask for 1 of the ships. Production info is classified.>>42465666There is a lot of grumbling going on but because it can be claimed to be at lest partially an internal revolt it's in a grey area. A very dark grey area. Relations with the Ruling House have taken a hit but the Alliance with them hasn't ended. They're calling for everyone to remain calm and asking the other major Houses to try and make sure none of their vassals try to do anything else disruptive. Generally trying to reassure people that things are not going terribly wrong and solutions are being worked on.A bit like this.https://soundcloud.com/gamequotes/wheatley-stay-calm-stay-calmFor the moment the other major Houses are agreeing on the surface to take steps to minimize additional incidents like this. House Eminia's public response is one of outrage but for the moment can't do anything except sputter. At least not until their expeditionary fleet returns. If they want their fleet to get home quickly it will mean cutting through your space which their allies are telling them not to do. You've got plenty of time before they can try anything. The Earl is working non-stop to secure trade agreements with the former Erid's neighbours. Hase'tos considers J-D to be a better replacement and has quietly joined the coalition of minor Houses J-D conquered the Run with. Many Houses have adopted a wait and see approach. In the words of one analyst, you haven't lit the powder keg, just helped make sure its ready to go.
You've contacted House Ber’helum and informed them of the positive performance of the gravity well generator. It's unfortunate that the starfighters didn't have a better opportunity to show off with the Aries drones proving to be quite capable at dealing with starfighter opposition. They may need to reintroduce laser point defense to counter them.>Cover repair and replacement cost for lost ships?Would you guys be okay with this? Their losses were entirely among their starfighter forces, which isn't unusual.>>42466126>so he is related to the Baron's wife? Or married to his Aunt?Married to the Baron's Aunt."I caught your nephew as well. Have you been allowed to contact any family that isn't responsible for selling their House out to a Terran entity?""I haven't yet talked to anyone aside from medics and the occasional debriefing officer. And you.">I'm tempted to say we random this guy on a few conditions>>42464845>God I'm tempted to just say 'shoot him with plasma pistol'.>>42465229>Skills are tempting...>I mean I suspect he will try to work for his own goals regardless if they screw us over or help usThoughts? Make him a deal, lock him up, or hand him to someone in the House that could get some use out of him. Or shoot him. You'll get yelled at despite your rank but you could say he was attempting escape.
>>42466446I think we could personally use a guy with his skillset. Let's take a 35 mil chunk of his funds, but then put him on a retainer. Nothing on the books, pay him out our personal funds. Task him with investigating the group behind Fox.
>>42466580This sounds really good
>>42466580Sounds like a plan to me!Though the question is will we be going for Bomb in head or no bomb in head? I know we are leering about using slave chips so that might be out.
You'll be getting the Transport shipyard and enough Salvage to rebuild at least 1 Athena class Battleship.Also the Mining Barge.As for newly acquired property in Erid territory it looks like it will mainly be industrial.It looks like Sonia will be helping to cover the cost of the station going overbudget. For much of the week after the fall of House Erid you and the other Barons are kept busy. While there has been no open rebellion thanks to the Governors and planetary defense forces maintining control there have been flare ups. Fleets remain posted far enough back from the border to keep from being jumped but close enough to respond. Army groups loyal to the House are making sure key surface infrastructure is protected against attacks and will remain in place to help shore up any worlds the PDF if necessary. Administrative personnel from South Reach and the Run are being hired or recalled to help with the changing over key government systems since they have more recent experience. Some Houses have been trying to block Jerik-Dremine from hiring such people from outside your space. The fleets are still stretched thin in places. Some of Ukalah's assault corvette crews surrendered or changed sides once he was captured while others fled.With production back up your House has stopped selling new corvettes while the fleets are strengthened. Previous orders like those from your allies are still being honoured."We'll need to buy some additional ships, maybe two medium cruisers to strengthen the Alaior sector until that Kilo can be rebuilt. Maybe more if things turn hectic." Dremine points out.Archivald agrees, but the Kilos the Run produce are better as escort or support ships than they are for patrols."We might need more in the Run and South Reach too so the time to get them is now.">What kind of Medium cruisers would you suggest the House try to get? Or what kind would you want backing up your command ship?
>>42467166If possible, they should look to secure those Dominion ones. Suk-Suhk- Crescent.They're designed to brawl, which allows them to be paired with a support-focused one like a Kilo, or paired with another brawler design to act as a heavy hitter pair.Secondary choice should probably be Herons, due to their general ability to multirole.Third would probably be surplus Lances. With the numbers of A2s both sides fielded, I can see a pair of Lance class vessels with some upgrades being a major player in inter-House fights. They could even be paired with brawler Mediums to fend off any larger vessels that might want to go after the Lance.
>>42467166>You'll be getting the Transport shipyardI'm really disappointed in this. Why would anyone vote for this? We already have lines that make transports. Something like the Aries Assault Yards we could have used to produce the most modern designs available. We ALSO had that upgrade from the alliance for the corvette yards we could have used on it to shit out corvettes for days.>Medium CruisersPreferably speedy ones.If I remember correctly we pilfered the designs for the Shallan Medium Cruiser and they're meant to be some of the best.Generic Herons to pack out the ranks should be good too.
>>42466580>>42466840>>42467112If there are no overwhelming objections? Sonia will get hold of the lawyers and draw up a suitable legally binding contract. >Though the question is will we be going for Bomb in head or no bomb in head? I know we are leering about using slave chips so that might be out.A tracking chip, while not nearly as effective, could provide some measure of security. It's also probably the minimum the lawyers will agree to given that this guy worked for special forces.>>42467166This is a rough idea of cost arranged by tier. Those in the same tier cost roughly the same. Fully upgrading some of the cheaper ones can be a bit on the pricey side depending on what's thrown on them.1) Lance (old)1) Alliance Medium Escort1) Sledge1) Pico2) Lance Upgrade2) Norune Medium2) Kilo2) Eminence Class Medium Cruiser3) Heron3) Helios Class 3) Shukhant Class
>>42467166See if the Rovinarbois will sell us some of their updated Mediums.
>>42467487first, Aries Transports are actually quite good. They're also armed, and we use them as part of our front line salvage teams, iirc. If we can rig a suitable shell game, we should be able to continue production of the Aries Transports for at least months, if not years before it can be turned 'legit'.Second, diversification. Transports are both a military and civilian product. If suddenly a major buyer can't buy our ships, you can sell transports to a wider buying group without the need for them to have existing assault corvette logistics (parts that have high fatigue need spares, design-specific parts, etc) or setting up said logistics.And if we black yard assault corvettes, we sort of directly compete with our own DHI line.
>>42467715>diversification.That's fine except for the fact we're already making transports.If we were making frigates and started a transport line, that'd be understandable. As it is, we'll be competing with ourselves. We make Moliminous class transports, U-Hauls, that Exodus transport, and now you want another one?
>>42467487>I'm really disappointed in this.Agreed. I would have prefered more land or mining rights.We can always buy more shipyards, getting additional land or lining rights is something much harder as it requires a political angle.
>>42467834to my knowledge, we build Moliminous transports. We have production license for Exodus transports (but never build any. Still dreaming of the squadron or so of them to enlarge our station-building assets). And the U-Hauls... I'm not sure. Do we own shares of a production facility that makes them in the Run? Or are we now making them on Rioja?Regardless, the Aries transport only competes directly with the Moli, but is more suited to conditions near the Neeran front. (iirc, due to weapons and better maneuver or speed?)And our Moli license allows us to have a second production line. Worst case (or long term), we don't produce Aries Transports and switch over to the Moli.Is it ideal? No, but it falls into an area we've got logistics and a company already set up in.Is it less likely to cause friction with fellow nobles wondering what we're plotting with all that land when we own nearly half of Rioja? Hopefully.
>>42468037>We have production license for Exodus transports (but never build any.>And the U-Hauls... I'm not sure. Do we own shares of a production facility that makes them in the Run? Or are we now making them on Rioja?Yes, you own shares of the attack cruiser yards in the Run. They produce a number of designs, including Vengeance types, U-Haul (multiple variants), Alliance Escort Carrier and the EC-K.Most U-Hauls were being finished out as escort carriers for several years until they were replaced by the Alliance design. Now most are being built as modified attack cruisers that can still double as cargo haulers. Many of them are custom order and are popular in South Reach, the Pandora cluster and Shallan space. Most front line crews these days would rather dump a load of cargo and run for it than die.
>>42468037>Regardless, the Aries transport only competes directly with the Moli, but is more suited to conditions near the Neeran front. (iirc, due to weapons and better maneuver or speed?)The Moli has 8x Phase Cannons (!) and heavy shielding. I can't find any details on the Aries transport on the wiki but the Moli is already adequate for near-front duty to be honest.
>>42468184our front line salvage group doesn't use Molis due to their lack of maneuverability, iirc.For the Neeran front, they're large, vulnerable turkey shoots for Neeran plasma.
>>42468313>For the Neeran front, they're large, vulnerable turkey shoots for Neeran plasma.>Most front line crews these days would rather dump a load of cargo and run for it than die.If the transport ships are being intercepted en-masse then we're probably losing the war. I just really don't see the point in having another basic-bitch shipyard producing trash tier ships.
>>42468184>I can't find any details on the Aries transport on the wikiFixed.http://houseanddominion.wikia.com/wiki/Atlas_ClassAside from the torpedo launchers the default design isn't that well armed compared to the Moli, but if you can pay Aries can upgrade it. >>42467487>If I remember correctly we pilfered the designs for the Shallan Medium Cruiser and they're meant to be some of the best.I'm looking and not seeing it. What you do have for sure are the designs for their newest Attack Cruisers, which can be modified to mount LD plasma cannons. They're not quite able to fit afterburners yet. It's being worked on and they're almost done.The problem your House has with the ship is that the EC-K has become its main attack cruiser, one they're making money off of. It's faster at FTL, already has high maneuver dive or afterburner options, and can provide ECM support to squadrons. Still, the Shallan ship is a better brawler and dogfighter.A way to make use of that design may have just come up. Eshik Medel, the kid who has been building up a mercenary unit with your help, is looking for newer ships. He's managed to get hold of an older corvette line building civilian light corvettes. These are normally used for patrol duties and rear line escort. The sort of thing you might see backing up older Knight class cruisers in a backwater like the Run or most of South Reach.He's contacted you hoping to sell some to the House for police and customs. "I'm also in the market for attack cruisers or anything that could stand up in a fight when I try to retake my House. All of the Vengeance types are being bought out by the Guild mercenaries from the PCCG. Your House considers the ECM systems on your EC-K ships to be too state of the art to sell to a mercenary."[ ] Ask House to sell EC-K[ ] Ask House to sell other designs from Run shipyards[ ] Sell license for Shallan Attack Cruiser[ ] Help set Attack cruiser line + license
>>42468437>I'm looking and not seeing it.Yeah it seems I got them mixed up. I thought we'd got the Shallan Medium design but it was that one. Side note, how much would it cost to buy one of house production run cloaking ships?
>>42468401Or the region they're in is being raided by Neeran raiders, or supplying units near the fronts...We've seen several major Neeran incursions and even raided enemy rear areas.>>42468437[x] Help set Attack Cruiser line + LicenseMaybe bring him in as a minority/silent partner in a smaller yard, letting him quiet away the odd ship for 'quality control testing'?With a suitable set of shell companies bouncing any ships that end up with him, it should just look like he got them as resells.
>>42468401It would be blockade runners or smugglers buying ships like that.>>42468548The new one? Once they enter production it'll probably cost as much as the Cloaked Fast Battleships, but if the cloak and ship are good and work as well as the best Rovinar ships, people will pay.I've changed the survey settings so that you can edit your votes if you want.See you in the morning.
Just got back from dinner, went to see Inside out as well. Catching up now.I can't stop imagining the bridge crew inside Sonia's head
>>42468437>The problem your House has with the ship is that the EC-K has become its main attack cruiser, one they're making money off of. It's faster at FTL, already has high maneuver dive or afterburner options, and can provide ECM support to squadrons. Still, the Shallan ship is a better brawler and dogfighter.I thought that we are marketing Dusk LD as complimentary to EC-K? Specialized BC/BS killer to latter's multi-purpose?>[X] Help set Attack cruiser line + license
>>42467166>>What kind of Medium cruisers would you suggest the House try to get?Going by the recent conflict with Erid, we need something that's good at dealing with corvettes because we already have lots of medium cruisers with heavy frontal fire power.I think that leaves us with the Lance, Alliance Medium, Pico, Eminence, Heron, or Shukhant.>>42468437>[ ] Help set Attack cruiser line + licenseShallan attack cruisers seem decent and he can sell them to the Shallan military as well if he doesn't find any other buyers.>He's contacted you hoping to sell some to the House for police and customs. Can we put better engines on them?
What's the current price for a license to build shallan mediums?Are there enough people in J-D space who would be willing to invest in a medium cruiser shipyard to afford a rapid assembly complex?And what is our research team currently doing?>>42466446>Would you guys be okay with this? I think we should. They really helped us out with the carrier group and especially the gravity well generator.>>42467166>Erid stuffDid we capture the construction facility for the Aries stealth cruisers?
>>42472172>What's the current price for a license to build shallan mediums?Half billion. It's come done.>Are there enough people in J-D space who would be willing to invest in a medium cruiser shipyard to afford a rapid assembly complex?Not within the House but it could potentially be worked out with allied Houses. At that point though people are going to want a Dominion ship design.>Did we capture the construction facility for the Aries stealth cruisers?Apparently they weren't building them here, but samples of the materials used to coat the hull have been captured. It's being sent to multiple labs for study. >>42471271>Can we put better engines on them?Sorry but their hulls are too small to mount full sized drives. That's part of what makes them cheap enough for people to acquire them for customs work. They are still quick enough to catch many smugglers.>If the House has nationalized all Erid (Aries?) facilities in House space, can Sonia get the drone construction complex on her property?Yes.Roll 1d100 for Winifred's efforts to take the facility before the workers could wipe the computers.
Rolled 52 (1d100)>>42473741For Salvage!
>>42473741>Roll 1d100Rolling.>Not within the HouseWould it possible to get enough funding within the House for a level 2 yard building shallan medium cruisers? Are the Shallans still developing upgrades for the class?>Half billionWould they accept to be paid in goods instead of cash? We're producing a wide range of stuff at this point they might find useful, especially if we value it somewhere between production cost and market price.>Please captcha, just load.
Rolled 98 (1d100)>>42473894Rolling.>And I lost my die while reloading the page for recaptcha.
>>42473899I guess Winifred knows how to make Sonia happy.>>42468437>He's managed to get hold of an older corvette line building civilian light corvettes. Which one is that? Corgi class? Would he be interested in a license for a different ship, and if so, what can the construction line build?>>42473741>Sorry but their hulls are too small to mount full sized drivesCould we put one-use afterburners on them?
>>42473894A big problem with the Shallan Medium line idea is the fact that it uses two(?) of the larger Republic plasma cannons.Last we checked, the Republic is backlogged on providing those cannons, and the Dominion doesn't even have designs for a plasma cannon that large.And iirc, didn't we salvage claim a Shallan Medium for the House, but the Alliance forces us to keep it up near/in Shallan space due to the powerful nature of the vessel?
>>42474088>didn't we salvage claim a Shallan Medium for the HouseI think we worked out a deal that gave Mezan control of the ship because she proved to be a great ally and decent person.>and the Dominion doesn't even have designs for a plasma cannon that large.We don't? If not, we could just substitute them with scrap cannons or probably a number of different options.
>>42473894Shallan Medium was the result of pushing what medium cruiser slipway can fit due to lack of heavy cruiser grade ones rather than desire for efficient design.As result, it is probably not very cost-effective compared to other designs. I doubt you'll be able to find investors outside of Shallan space.
>>42474088>and the Dominion doesn't even have designs for a plasma cannon that large.Actually it does. The Dominion can produce their own version of the Republic Light and Medium plasma cannons now, they're just inferior. Your command ship is fitted with a pair of Dominion built mediums. >didn't we salvage claim a Shallan Medium for the House, but the Alliance forces us to keep it up near/in Shallan space due to the powerful nature of the vessel?Yes. You got other salvage in compensation for your House's half of the claim. They didn't want Shallan warships already in Shallan space to leave.Mezan has got a lot of use out of that ship.>>42474059>Which one is that? Corgi class?It's listed as Civilian Corvette/Light Corvette on the wiki.It has 1 phase cannon turret and point defense, so it's similar in to the Corgi. >Could we put one-use afterburners on them?I don't know. It would stop being a cheap to build and maintain corvette at that point which is what they exist to be.>>42473899Winifred had troops in power cell armor assault the factory before word could get to them that an invasion of Erid space was underway. LST's and shuttles blocked all access preventing escape. There were a few casualties. The site manager had been ordered to make sure the infantry support drones would be able to hold off or delay most small assaults. As a result some were armed with plasma blasters and anti-tank guns. The House Marines tend to be well versed in dealing with such weapons from fighting Neeran. Ultimately they secured the facility before much damage could be done to it and secured teh database.That was a couple weeks ago. At present you're either at meetings with the other Barons or out on patrol near Alaior. You'll be transfering to Rioja to help set up more defenses there soon.>Cont.
The coms officer speaks up. "Sir we're getting a distress signal. Correction multiple distress signals. They're reporting that some of our shipyards are under attack by drones."You switch your map displays to show which shipyards and somewhat predictably they're all yards producing Aries ships. The attackers aren't starfighters but infantry support drones, several hundred at each site. They're trying to force their way inside the facilities. This is easier in some places than others, especially where a few stations were damaged in the fighting. "Wait, how would they get inside where there's no damage?""They're hacking the airlock doors."Deploy ships and your Marines to defend which locations:[ ] One Assault corvette yard[ ] Multiple Assault corvette yards[ ] Attack Cruiser [ ] Transport[ ] Battleship[ ] Heavy CruiserThis was already going to happen, just someone wanted to know about the other factory first.
>>42474269>"They're hacking the airlock doors."Disable power to the airlock doors.>locationsWill we get reimbursed by the house if we chose other shipyards over the one we own?What forces are present at the various locations?What do we have available to mount the defence?
>>42474243>. It would stop being a cheap to build and maintain corvette at that point which is what they exist to be.Yeah... okay, that makes sense. Would it be possible to mount starfighter grade missiles and torpedoes on them in case of a Neeran raid behind FA lines?
>>42474269[x] Attack Cruiser[x] Battleship[x] Heavy CruiserI think these are all in the same system, or at least the last two are.Are we the only response force?
>>42474269>heavy cruiser>battleship>one assault corvetteOur main advantage lately has been tonnage and skill and in light of the Zeus and Athena class's power we should preserve them and the ability to produce parts for our corvette forces.We ourselves already have cruiser yards that produce attack cruisers and transports, as well as corvette yards. This is in addition to what the house owns/purchases.Suffering the other yards just makes more sense when we have more of them and they're cheaper to repair or replace.
>>42474319>Will we get reimbursed by the house if we chose other shipyards over the one we own?It depends on the damage. They would probably like yards to remain operational. >What forces are present at the various locations?There are Marines aboard each station plus the crews but none with power cell armor. Each station has a couple squadrons of corvettes guarding it. Those above colonies are having local starfighters scramble to assist. >What do we have available to mount the defence?You have most of the power cell equipped troops in the sector at the moment, about 500 of them. There's definitely enough to clear and defend any one station quickly.>>42474350>Would it be possible to mount starfighter grade missiles and torpedoes on them in case of a Neeran raid behind FA lines?Yes.>>42474508>I think these are all in the same system, or at least the last two are.The Heavy and jeez now I can't remember I'll say that they are in the same system but each is still it's own separate facility. >Are we the only response force?You're the closest. The other Barons and Knights will scramble additional troops to your location quickly but it could take an additional half hour.Do you want to split your marine forces or try to clear a smaller number of targets first?
Do we have any EMP to take out large chunks of drones?
>>42474646Has our House been able to copy the battleship production data?Have our knights with PA available check each station's layout and deploy where they think they'll be the most useful.Anyway, I would suggest the following priorities:1. Heavy Cruiser <- 150 marines2. Battleship <- 100 marines3. Assault corvette <- 150 marines (multiple yards)4. Attack Cruiser <- 50 marines5. Transport <- 50 marines>I think we should open a factory for EMP grenades and rockets. And one for stun grenades as well, considering how many of these we tend to use, and they're probably even more useful for police forces.
>Recover that base we set on a collision course with something.Salvage teams have taken care of it.>Repair the sensor stations we disabled.A work in progress but they're at least partially operational. Additional sensor buoys are being deployed along the border.>Investigate those surprisingly effective heavy phase cannons on that one station.Turns out they had taken a pair of spinal mount heavy phase cannons usually seen on some Battlecruisers and fitted them to a decommissioned twin fusion cannon turret. Their tracking speed must be terrible but at long range they can still pack a punch.>Practically all Erid military installations fared exceedingly poorly in this conflict.That's what happens when you hit a target with hundreds of ships. >>42474691You don't have any weapons specifically set to do that at the moment. Some techs could get to work on it. Small arms like phase rifles would be the fastest and easiest to flip.>>42474762>Has our House been able to copy the battleship production data?Not all of it.
>>42474243How large was Winifred's team and how many drones did they have to fight? That should give us a rough idea how many troops we'll have to send to counter the drones.
Did these drones come from those two terrorist stealth ships?
>>42474972She hit the factory with 250 power cell marines and there were probably 300 drones plus the factory automated defenses.>>42474994Unknown but probable as they seemed to just appear out of nowhere. The cloaked transport Erid intel previously used went missing but put together that only accounts for 3 ships. Someone would have needed 6 cloaked ships to launch the drone attack simultaneously.
>>42475095>250 PA vs. 300 drones + factory defencesOkay, thanks. I think the numbers I posted here >>42474762 should be okay in that case. Especially with the corvettes, internal defences, marines and crews providing additional support.Just to make sure we should probably consult some of our veteran marines as well.
>>42475172>Just to make sure we should probably consult some of our veteran marines as well."We'll need more than 150 for the Heavy Cruiser yard just because parts of it are so spread out. It will take time to properly sweep otherwise.">>42474508>>42474635Two votes for defending 3 yards.>>42474762>>42475172Two votes for defending all of the yards.
>>42475240>Two votes for defending all of the yards.Both posts are mine. That's why I wrote>I think the numbers I posted here
>>42474635Seconding this one. The other reinforcements can cover the rest.
>>42474269[x] Attack Cruiser[x] Battleship[x] Heavy CruiserWe should have enough forces to hold three, and neither corvettes nor transports are irreplaceable.
Definitely the Heavy Cruiser and Battleship yards. Some debate over one assault corvette or attack cruiser.1. Heavy Cruiser <- 250 marines2. Battleship <- 100 marinesOne Assault corvette line <- 75Attack Cruiser <- 75Is this ok? If so roll 5d100
Rolled 23, 1, 94, 9, 71 = 198 (5d100)>>42475592Salvage?
Rolled 76 (1d100)>>42475592>5d1001
Rolled 56 (1d100)>>424756482
Rolled 78, 29, 53, 37, 27 = 224 (5d100)>>42475592
Rolled 93, 86, 37, 23, 12 = 251 (5d100)>>42475592It sounds fine to me.>>42475626>1ffffffffffffffffff Damned cabbages and commercial truck captchas!
Rolled 41 (1d100)>>424756653
Rolled 3 (1d100)>>424756894
>>42475626These rolls are non-critting, right? Right?...I will go and commit sudoku now.
Rolled 39 (1d100)>>424757125>76, 56, 94, 37, 71 or thisSeems like we're getting mixed results this time.
>>42475731Fortunately, crits don't overrule highest-of-3 in most cases.
"Ready all of our Heavy Marines and send them with ships to the following locations."Once the Marines are transferred your group jumps to Alaior to help support the teams securing the more important yards. Smaller ships, shuttles and starfighters help to combat drones that are still outside the stations with their point defense. "Sir, local defenders on the Heavy cruiser and Battleship yards are being overwhelmed by the number of drones present. They've cut or blasted through doors they haven't been able to hack.""How, are they self destructing them?"Maybourne takes a look. "I think the ones with plasma weapons have spare fuel cells. It's easy enough to rig them as explosives and should be enough to melt through doors."Makes sense, you have seen marines rig the fuel cells from anti-tank guns as makeshift explosives before."How are our people doing?"We have enough at the Heavy cruiser yard that they're making up for the locals. The Battleship yard could be close.Our people are having trouble getting inside the key areas of the attack cruiser yard by the locals still hold the control centers and reactors so they're not going to blow up.""The corvette line?""Doing a bit better there but the yard defenses are crumbling."Over the next few minutes things remain tense until the unit commanders begin to report in."Heavy Cruiser yard secure, or good enough. They were trying to hack into the computers to wipe the manufacturing data.""How close were they?""Very. We're still policing stragglers."The Battleship line is also brought under control in time, though it is likewise close."Finish up then get ready to help at the other locations.""Copy that."It's a few more minutes before the others report in. "Attack Cruiser line secured... we do not have the production data, it is gone."Could be worse, you never really cared for Aries attack cruisers anyways.>cont.
What is less good is that the Hades class lines have also suffered a similar fate. This also shouldn't be too serious a blow, as the House was going to phase them out in favour of your own designs. The engineers should be able to finish out or scrap those that were already under construction for use as spare parts. Rounding things out is the loss of the Transport data. Fortunately all of the drone production facilities are ground side. For the most part the Aries corporation has isolated their factories from external networks making it harder for hacking attempts to damage the facility. This has come back to bite them as large scale cyberwarfare attacks about the House networks over the next two days fail to damage any additional infrastructure. "We knew that Aries wasn't going to take the loss of their assets lying down." Points out the Earl at a meeting once the attacks have died down. "Their army of lawyers are contunuing to harass us from safer locations but to little effect. DHI has become too powerful over the years for them to pose a serious threat to the House. If we hadn't been able to replace Dreminth's orbital industry we might be in a bad position. From discussions with the Ruling House it would appear that DHI is one of the last "small" producers in the Dominion. The Major Houses have more powerful state owned companies that the Megacorps can't effectively threaten.""This is beginning to look more like a corporate war is unfolding." states Baron Dremine.The Earl agrees. "We'll need to be ready if that happens. I want DHI to increase it's production and expand it into the former Erid territories to prevent an overall loss should a single planet fall. Most of you are DHI shareholders, you may want to see about additional investments with them to help fund the expansion.">Was there anything you wanted to bring up at the meeting? >How much more would you like to invest in DHI?
>>42476411>>42476824Well could be worse, we did not plan to use the Hades after all and we got a solid Cruiser going for us. All in all, could have be->Rounding things out is the loss of the Transport data. Motherfuckers. Alright, Aries wants a war they will get it. Soon>you may want to see about additional investments with them to help fund the expansion."That has never been a problem. The problem has been that DHI has forbidden us from throwing more money at them to get more shares. We've been stuck at like half a million S in shares since we where made Knight Captain I do believe.>How much more would you like to invest in DHI?We have a fairly massive pile of money do we not? Should be about.... 1.6 billion or so right? If so then I am willing to go as far as 300 to even 500 millions. That should neat us a fairly substantial payout increase over the coming years should it not? Also should help DHI to grow bigger.
>>42476824>>How much more would you like to invest in DHI?How much money do we have available right now?>>Was there anything you wanted to bring up at the meeting? The effectiveness of the older private cruisers held by many knights and the performance of attack corvettes.Maybe suggest increased defences around our orbital manufacturing facilities?>Rounding things out is the loss of the Transport dataOuch. Can the House provide us with the license for something we can build in that yard? Or can we build something that's covered by our existing licenses in that yard?>replace Dreminth's orbital industry Do the knights who captured the modules own them (at least partially)? Asking as a player as it would probably be a think Sonia shouldn't ask in present company.
>>42476824>bring up at the meeting?We still have the Aries production data for the Battleships and Zeus, right?That includes engines and things like the various launchers/mission pods?Can that data quietly be made available to JD's Knights or even handed over to friendly Houses? If spread around by Intel enough, we could cause a number of black sites or shell game companies to pop up producing whatever they can of Aries' stuff. Fly-by-Night corporate warfare, as it were. Let others in the Dominion make Aries knockoffs and screw up their reputation. Or just plain undercut their prices.Spaced Armor for critical DHI orbital facilities. We should know how much armor is needed to 'catch' a torpedo. As a long term deal, it may be wise for critical facilities to see additional armor layers placed a few tens of meters outside the main hull/armor. It should either catch torpedoes in the outer armor, or possibly cause them to fail to penetrate the main hull, if they make it through. At the very least, a study might be worth conducting.>invest in DHIWe should do this the RSS/RLS way. Set up some shipyards that happen to also produce DHI engines and products for said ships.>>42477041>transport data loss/House license?Our license for Molis/Battlecruisers still has another production line available to it, iirc. (unless I forgot we added a 2nd transport line)We could potentially covert it to the Shallan Attack Cruiser, as well?
>>42476824>>How much more would you like to invest in DHI?We should have a lot of money again, I think, and DHI is a good investment for several reasons. I vote>Several hundred million. >If that is not overkill: Half a billion.>>42477033>stuck at like half a million S in sharesI think it was more, but still a (relatively to our wealth) small amount.
>>42476824>Was there anything you wanted to bring up at the meeting? The next time we send a expedition fleet we should try go nap a Corsair yard or two. Those ships seems like they are made for our mixed wings, who excel more at raiding than straight up combat.Also can we get access to the Battleship data for our own yards? They would make for a good war asset and if had a copy of it then we could build our own yards to help produce more of them quicker. We got the money to spend after all.Can we begin to Knight people again? I remember that we had a large bunch of promising pilots that we could not knight after hunting down the Neeran raiders due to a decree from the Earl. With the large expansion of the House's size and having gained a lot more land could we start promoting again?>>How much more would you like to invest in DHI?A lot, like in several hundreds of millions. This is our chance to get it in big with what is soon going to be a huge state owned company. I smell profit everywhere.
>Can we begin to Knight people again?Yes but they're still supposed to be recommendations made to the Earl who will Knight people or not. You can still go ahead and do so anyways.A bunch of the people who defected from House Erid were Knighted so your numbers are adequate right now.>Also can we get access to the Battleship data for our own yards?Once it's properly backed up, maybe.>>42477033>The problem has been that DHI has forbidden us from throwing more money at them to get more shares. We've been stuck at like half a million S in shares since we where made Knight Captain I do believe.At present that is no longer a problem. >We have a fairly massive pile of money do we not?>>42477220>We should have a lot of money againYou did get that billion unlocked once Archivald dismissed your house arrest. Plus the other 200 million from the armor company but much of that went into Rioja. Between Rioja being a money pit for awhile, miscellaneous investments and things your cash reserves are back to around 1 billion. Rioja has thankfully stopped being a money pit.An item that will have a big impact on your cash reserves: the Attack Cruiser shipyard with Eshik Medel. How much of the 200 million are you guys prepared to supply for it's start up? He could probably pay 50 now.
>>42477439150m to the Attac Cruiser line.700m to DHI.How much is the plasma factory going to cost?
>>42477439>attack cruiser shipyard with Eshik MedelI'd say that we should foot a full 200 million. Let Medel pay in what he feels keeps him solid financially, for now. We agree on a % of ownership for him, and he can slowly buy into whatever the difference is.All excess funds from start-up go toward the initial production costs for ships?This yard is a solid chance to expand DHI, as we'll probably be putting DHI systems into all of the ships (like our other ships!), so a few extra DHI production modules with it would be in order.
>>42477439>How much of the 200 million are you guys prepared to supply for it's start up?Whoa, he's going straight for the level 3 yard without having any potential buyers? Isn't that a bit much?>DHI300 million? I still think Sonia should build a medium cruiser yard.
>>42477439>the Attack Cruiser shipyard with Eshik Medel. How much of the 200 million are you guys prepared to supply for it's start up? He could probably pay 50 now.So this guy is trying to set up his House again and we are helping him right? So what if we threw 50 million at this and urged our fellow Barons to also help out. Best case we help set him up and get a strong ally in him. Worst case he dies and we take the yard for ourselves.>cash reserves are back to around 1 billionI'd set our limit to 400 million then. Still have some plans for Rioja, especially if we get the Battleship schematics.
>>42477542>How much is the plasma factory going to cost?40 million, and it would need to be an orbital facility due to safety concerns. Once finished it could probably supply a good portion of the House needs in addition to export.>>42477616>Whoa, he's going straight for the level 3 yard without having any potential buyers?It's the newest Shallan ship design, there will be buyers.>I still think Sonia should build a medium cruiser yard.You still can but you're going to need investors rather than Psycho Sonia spending spree. Those Heavy cruisers for instance are largely financed by the client House until they're sold to the Alliance.>>42477041>Can the House provide us with the license for something we can build in that yard? Or can we build something that's covered by our existing licenses in that yard?Your still have licenses for Moli and Exodus transports that are still good.>42477789>Medel>So what if we threw 50 million at this and urged our fellow Barons to also help out.That would certainly cut costs and get the rest of the House onboard. You wouldnt be making as much money back from it mind you. DHI Investments:300-500several hundred to 500400700300So we should say that 500 is the upper limit, 300 mil the lower?
>>42477789Medel is that kid that tried to buy a ship from our salvage pile (Errant, I think?). He wasn't actually a knight, but the son of one from a conquered House.JD probably can't afford multiple Barons supporting this guy if he fails. And frankly, we shouldn't trust our fellow Barons to not screw over either Medel or Sonia if they get involved in this. Archibald just spent how long pretending to be friends with how many people while planning to betray them?On that note, we should probably ensure he has a suitable shell company holding this investment. He may have enemies that could potentially not like if they notice his name on this attack cruiser line.
>>42477891Personally I'm fine with investing 500 mil into DHI and the suggestion of offering to spend up to 200 mil on the shipyard with a later buy-in/buyback option for Eshik, whenever he feels he is secure enough financially.
>>42477891is there any may we could allocat funds for research into better point defense? seems like its becoming more important with Aries decoys and drones
>300-500milSounds good. What very small percentage of the company does that buy us? I imagine as this is not a static investment but done specifically for their expansion that as things progress there will be more opportunities for investment? Y'know when we have more money.
>>42477891Is the LTSC design freeware? According to the wiki, it should be somewhere around 500 to 1500 years old at this point.>You still can but you're going to need investors rather than Psycho Sonia spending spree. Can we upgrade medium cruiser shipyards to higher tech levels? I wouldn't mind start out with a level 1 yard producing something cheap like Sledge Hammer mediums.
>>42477891>So we should say that 500 is the upper limit, 300 mil the lower?Very much acceptable.>That would certainly cut costs and get the rest of the House onboard. You wouldnt be making as much money back from it mind you. I do not see it as making money rather than us making ourselves an even better ally. Frankly it's not much money if we throw 50 millions at it and call it a day with the rest picking up the slack. Especially if he ends up reforming his House again under his rule. That would cement is a strong ally that can throw around a few ships when the need calls for it. But I am not entirely against throwing all the remaining money that he needs at it.>Plasma Factory.All my yes. Throw all the money at that.
>>42477891>So we should say that 500 is the upper limit, 300 mil the lower?I'm okay with that.>We're Baron nowSo, would our high school want us as a speaker now?
>>42478208>So, would our high school want us as a speaker now?"And now for our guest speaker, a former student of ours. Please stand for Baron Sonia Bethany Reynard." "Thank you, thank you. Let me start this off by sharing what my math teacher, miss Acenda, once told me. She said -Sonia, violence never solves anything-. Well look at me now, I am a Baron, and I use violence to solve several problems every day!"
>>42478436>Camera cuts to an elderly math teacher in a wheelchair with broken legs still in casts, smiling nervously and waving at the viewers.
>>42478013>is there any may we could allocat funds for research into better point defense? seems like its becoming more important with Aries decoys and dronesWell the mass driver point defense systems are being upgraded with repulsor tech from your rifles, that should increase effective range. You could also start carrying point defense missile systems on your ships which have always been available.>>42478015>What very small percentage of the company does that buy us?Honestly I don't know but you're a major shareholder with it.>>42478028>Is the LTSC design freeware?Short answer no.Long answer: Wayward Treasures is an older design which is effectively lostech. The Terrans currently produce a newer LTSC that is similar in terms of carrying capacity but has better performance.A Medium Carrier design like the EBON could probably be bought from the Republic cheaply but while it is tougher, it doesn't have the same ability to support Landing Support Transports.>>42478436This is canon unless there are objections.Expect mom to be mad at you again.
>>42478615>This is canon unless there are objections.No objection here, mom's scolding is going to be epic!BTW, did we managed to get decoy torpedo data?
>>42478615>This is canon unless there are objections.We should make sure there are no transmissions or records.>A Medium Carrier design like the EBON could probably be bought from the Republic cheaply but while it is tougherWould it be cheaper and better than reverse engineering our LTSC?
>>42478615>A Medium Carrier design like the EBON could probably be bought from the Republic cheaplyYeah, no. The Ebon was really horrible before the House had it massively retrofitted if I remember it correctly. Wasn't it a prototype when Daska salvaged it and we nabbed it for the great Command ship ambushed. That battle is still one of the better ones if this entire quest.>This is canon unless there are objections.Yay. Let madness reign.
>>42478819>The Ebon was really horrible before the House had it massively retrofitted if I remember it correctly.I think it was a really unpopular design because people got stupid ideas from the plasma cannons mounted on the ships. Keep your carrier back and you couldn't use them, get close enough to use the plasma cannons, and you get your carrier shot to pieces because it isn't really made for direct combat.I honestly have no idea how that loadout made it past the drawing board.
>>42478615>Expect mom to be mad at you again.Do Sonia's parents still need to leave Petras after the recent change in politics?
>BTW, did we managed to get decoy torpedo data?You have several hundred torpedoes with decoys that have been recovered.Decoys themselves are fairly basic. They consist of a small missile with infatable sections. The inflatable nose cone is coated with a sensor reflector that gives a return identical to a torpedo casing. Forward sensor probes should be able to send back data that would let you identify them more easily. If they start making more expensive ones entirely coated in that material it will become very difficult to distinguish them aside from mass readings.>>42478802>Would it be cheaper and better than reverse engineering our LTSC?Cheaper yes. Better? That's open to considerable debate.>>42478903>I honestly have no idea how that loadout made it past the drawing board.It was a crazy time, they built a ton of experimental ships. The other version that used the same hull as the EBON replaced the carrier bays with missile batteries.>>42479023>Do Sonia's parents still need to leave Petras after the recent change in politics?That is a good question. Do you still want to relocate Sonia's Parents?
>>42478903Not as stupid as you may think - the idea was to make a Battlestar, basically, if I am not mistaken.Although it didn't worked very well in practice, mostly due to cannon's location which blocked launch bays during firing.
>>42479120>The other version that used the same hull as the EBON replaced the carrier bays with missile batteries.That sounds like a very interesting ship. How did it perform in combat?>That's open to considerable debate.What if we modernize the design after the reverse engineering process? Is there a chance to end up with something that's competitive?>Do you still want to relocate Sonia's Parents?Ask people who are gud@politics we can trust for their opinions?
>>42479232>How did it perform in combat?Only so-so because of its poor engine performance.>What if we modernize the design after the reverse engineering process? Is there a chance to end up with something that's competitive?It depends what you want it to do. Fleet starfighter support, or to assist in planetary assault?If you want those you could modify a Kilo class since your House already builds those.>Ask people who are gud@politics we can trust for their opinions?In theory Dreminth should be safer for them than Rioja unless you piss off additional political enemies within the House. As the capital Dreminth could also become a target in a war but it's defenses are better than Rioja's.Working up this week's second survey. After the attack cruiser yard and the DHI investment you'll have probably spent between 350 and 700 million. +40 million for the Plasma facility. If you go for the maximum that will leave 260 million until the next pay day from the armor company and other businesses.Do you guys still want to invest in a medium cruiser yard? Would this be one for the company which would mean starting with a smaller lower tech one, or investing with people from your House and allied Houses on a higher tech one?
>>42479828>It depends what you want it to do. Fleet starfighter support, or to assist in planetary assault?I want to turn it into a medium assault corvette carrier.>House already building KilosNeat, I didn't know J-D was already building medium cruisers.>parentsI think an idea was to relocate them to Surakeh.>Do you guys still want to invest in a medium cruiser yard? My idea was to start with a line of cheap medium cruisers, and eventually build additional shipyards of that size so we can offer a budget medium like the sledge or alliance escort, a premium ship like the shallan one, and a carrier design that can support either starfighters or corvettes.
>>42479828>Do you guys still want to invest in a medium cruiser yard?I would like one very much yes. However not right now. I'd say after our next payday from a campaign. If the last one is anything to go by then we can probably except 1 billion from it at the very lest.I also feel that waiting is even more important seeing as it costs 550 millions to build a line. And I HATE the idea of going into debt even if it is completely normal.Then there is also the fact that I would like one or two level 2 Battleship yards at Rioja if we can get a Athena class schematic.
>>42479828>Do you guys still want to invest in a medium cruiser yard?Didn't we already have one that was making the gunship design? The one the alliance ordered 2 of.
We should probably visit Ecord and see how he's recovering?Speaking of Knighting people, would he be a suitable candidate thanks to his ground combat experience?
>>42480677That's actually built in the repair scaffold of our anchorage which we could cheaply convert to a heavy cruiser yard once repairs were finished. How much would it cost to upgrade that to a level 2 yard?>>42480701>>26603135 >Sergeant Major Rob Ecord has been Knighted!Your over 2 real time years late. But I'm sure he appreciates the thought.
>>42480508>I also feel that waiting is even more important seeing as it costs 550 millions to build a line.We can start with a slipway for 120 million and upgrade it later. It would also allow us to already train crews for the later, more advanced, yard.
>>42480785>Your over 2 real time years late. But I'm sure he appreciates the thought.Good to know, the guy deserves it! We should still check in on him though. Also, is he just a member of our fleet or is he part of our personal retinue?
>>42480879>is he just a member of our fleet or is he part of our personal retinue?I'm not really sure. He might even be a knight lt at this point if he kept up doing these crazy spec-ops missions.Anyway, I think we should probably consider recruiting additional men at arms.
Survey up at any rate.surveymonkey com/r/ 9HG8QRL>>42480677That's a heavy cruiser.>>42480701>We should probably visit Ecord and see how he's recovering?Writing.Eldal is still on his vacation /assistance tour helping you out. Did you want him to meet Estavan Risto, the newest Krath employee working for RTS? You don't really know how the two will react to each other.Oh I completely forgot! The Earl has an interesting offer regarding the Aries transport yard. While the Data on the Atlas may have been lost they've been loking at some other options since then end of your last deployment against the Neeran. A number of CX transports were captured that had been modified for high FTL speeds. With newer advances in reverse engineering Neeran tech, and other deals with the Alliance, it should be possible to build them. Construction will be a bit slower than usual because of the remaining tech gap. There is also an upgrade of the Moli available that should increase its sublight and FTL capability. They'll need a new license however.What are your thoughts? Added to survey!
>>42481224>CX transports... Yes please.>Did you want him to meet Estavan RistoYes! We have to get him to want to come join us permanently to keep Estavan from corrupting his with his wicked ways.
>New surveyTSTG, is this assessment of medium cruisers correct? Most of them have wiki pages.>LanceLow budget medium cruiser platform, better at dealing with ships, fragile.>Alliance Medium Escort Can swap out turrets, new ship design not really proven in combat situations>SledgeCheap, lots of firepower against larger ships. Had some issues with survivability in the past (largely fixed?)>PicoNot really sure about this ship.>Lance upgradeLess fragile better everything, still intended to fighter smaller ships?>Norune mediumMiddle of the line medium, designed to engage larger ships.>KiloMiddle of the line medium, designed for adaptability (alliance escort equivalent one price category up? wiki page isn't too clear on that)>EminenceFocuses on mobility and dealing with smaller craft?>HeronFragile for its price, very fast and agile. Good armament against a wide range of targets?>HeliosSiege weapon platform. Mostly useful against medium cruiser sized targets and up. Pretty helpless against everything else. Dedicated fleet support ship>Shukhant Class Top of the line Dominion medium cruiser design. Can swap out armament easily(?).>>42481224>CX transports Yes, please.>KrathI think we should ask both of them. If I remember correctly, there were a lot of historic tensions between both Krath factions.
>>42481386>better at dealing with shipssmaller ships
>>42480994>we should probably consider recruiting additional men anyway.I'd agree with that. But then again, I'm not even sure how many we have currently...
>>42481386>>Alliance Medium Escort >Can swap out turrets, new ship design not really proven in combat situationsRight, here's the rough for the medium escort.>Pico>Not really sure about this ship.It's similar to the Kilo but is longer instead of broad. They're not that common and Sonia's only run into a couple of them, one of which I mistaken called a Kilo. >Lance upgrade>Less fragile better everything, still intended to fighter smaller ships?Mostly correct but depends on the upgrade. Some will make it better at fighting ships that are larger. >KiloThey are adaptable but there are limits and they tend to be just tough enough that it increases the price a bit. Kilos need a shipyard and work on the interior to be re-purposed after they've been built, but are easy to plan out modifications during construction.>EminenceFocuses on mobility and dealing with smaller craft?They are fast for a medium but are a general use sort of ship otherwise.>Shukhant Class >Can swap out armament easily(?).The newest ones can. The rest of that is spot on.
>>42481224>Eldal is still on his vacation /assistance tour helping you out. Did you want him to meet Estavan Risto, the newest Krath employee working for RTS?I don't know, but if Eldal is technically on vacation then we should at least invite him over to the lodge on Dreminth for a drink or two and show him the local sights. Also discuss if he'd like a gift for helping out and eventually ask if he's willing to come on the 'raid the dyson sphere' mission.
>>42482122>Norune MediumAre the Norune selling the design for whatever is needed to link several of these into a bigger ship?>Alliance Medium Escort Does it have no smaller turrets at all?>The rest of that is spot on.Yay!>>42482427I'd like to ask Eldal what his faction thinks about the current conflict.
An unrelated thought: Who was it that asked us to be knighted at the beginning of the civil war? Did that person get knighted?
>>42461907>The tech has limits that aren't just needing more power as a requirement. Extra power helps but that alone isn't enough.Yeah, so Assault Corvettes demonstrate that you can get a performance level in a light starship that redlines existing damper technology to the point that it suffers from structural issues. It should also be possible to create an assault cruiser with such performance that it can also redline damper tech.In practice it would simply be a very high performance (and very expensive) attack cruiser. But there is a niche for such a ship because it could be used to counter enemy assault corvettes. Dominion corvette swarm doctrine could be countered by an opposing swarm, producing a performance stalemate. But a specialized assault corvette killer could keep us ahead in the game.Repulsor based engines are the key here because they offer several performance advantages. Gravity based engines make the ship "fall" forwards to propel it instead of using rocket thrust. This means that the stress you subject the structure to is "tidal" and spread evenly over the entire ship versus fusion drives that only push against a specific hardpoint. Repulsor based systems are also relatively "solid state", they don't have much in the way of pipes or moving parts which reduces weight and volume.
>>42481224>Putting a Krath (Eldal) and a Watcher Space Krath (Estavan) anywhere near eachother.No Sonia, noooooooo~~~~~
>>42482668This does kind of assume that you've got repulsor tech capable of matching or exceeding the power of fusion drives. Even more so when you're in a brawl and other ships may be using tractor/repulsor systems on your own ship.We could be centuries or longer from repulsor tech being anywhere near that point, beyond Neeran Kraut Space Magic.We're seeing Assault Corvettes shine as the dogfighters of the day, while Attack Cruisers have always sort of been boom and zoom heavy fighters.
>>42478615>This is canon unless there are objections.>Expect mom to be mad at you again.>>42478436>"And now for our guest speaker, a former student of ours. Please stand for Baron Sonia Bethany Reynard.">"Thank you, thank you. Let me start this off by sharing what my math teacher, miss Acenda, once told me. She said -Sonia, violence never solves anything-. Well look at me now, I am a Baron, and I use violence to solve several problems every day!"After that people clearly see a elderly woman glaring at Sonia, and some could swear Sonia flinched. A bit with the eye and mouthing "Sorry, but its true..."I see Sonia a bit still intimidated or at the very least very respectful of her former teachers, probably because only they and her parents ever curbed her adrenaline junky ways. Everyone else has been enabling her to more adrenaline highs.This is probably in her profile, that she sees everyone in the house as thrill and adrenaline providers, but her parents and teachers who seem the responsible 'Don't do that' types.That being said I say we really ought to dump everything we can into DHI now. Why? Right *NOW* capital for the corporate war chest is more important than internal house politics on the ownership of this strategic and vital asset.So if you want a major stock in DHI vote for all the money we can spare into it.I'd say more around 650 or 750 mill at the minimum if we want to invest seriously.
>>42483249I'm not too enthusiastic throwing that much money at what's basically a state controlled company.
>>42483342>>42483249I entirely support the idea of huge investment. And, anon, we are the state now.
>>42483470>we are the state nowNah, we're a vassal of the state. the Feudal state is always the ruler, so the Earl is the state.Besides, we have our own company to grow into a proper mega corp!
>>42483470I'd rather throw that much money at a company Sonia controls, instead of one that has to bow to the earl and house politics.It's a good idea to invest a decent sum in DHI but not that much.
>>42483027>This does kind of assume that you've got repulsor tech capable of matching or exceeding the power of fusion drives.Well, it's kind of a good thing the Rioja university we were building was going to have a really large repulsor research side to it.
Ecord is up and about when you visit him at the hospital he's been transferred to. You're rather surprised that it isn't one of the top facilities reserved for officers. "A bit of a tradition from the marines. If you get shot try to visit different hospitals to find out which ones are the best for the average trooper. If you manage to make it to officer you're told my the men to keep it up so you can figure out which hospitals need more funding for upgrades for those stuck there."Interesting idea. "Aboard ship or moving around with the fleet we don't have that many options. Once the worst of my injuries had been repaired I asked for a transfer.""I'm glad you're okay. How did you get shot?""Breaching charge to weaken the guy's armor then I believe I jammed a plasma blaster set on overload into the crater. Also I put plastic explosives in next to it so the gun wouldn't fall out. The overload timer may have been a bit too short. The soldier wearing the suit was attempting to put both of us through a wall so I was in a rush.""You definitely got it done at the right time." You tell him. "I was too busy to go bail you out.""I heard. What's with the brief case?""Another hospital trip after this one. That Lord you heard I fought on the bridge? Legal documents for him." Ecord groans in annoyance. "With all due respect sir, you should have just shot him on the ship.""Maybe." "He already stole a starship from our House and killed who knows how many people at that base in the process.""With help, but you're right he's dangerous." you admit. "I'm holding into his suit of custom power cell armor until he's fulfilled the obligations of our agreement." With luck that and a tracking chip will be just enough."What about you Ecord, you interested in a job? I'm going to need to put together a force out of Rioja soon.""Is that Lord Vanderwal guy going to be there?""No, he's staying here to sneak around and be nefarious in the capital."
Rob considers for a moment then looks back to you. "Alright.""That's it? Just alright?""Yes sir. I'll talk to some of the Marines and see about a few transfers.">Rob Ecord added to Retinue!>Men at Arms +50>>42481691>I'm not even sure how many we have currently...Well you're going to be finding out eventually.The rest of the Barons were surprised to find out you got a head start on your fleet with those assault corvettes you'd been diverting to the Alliance training base. It's not a lot but it's a start.>Can we build it (plasma facility) inside the moon?Rioja's rubble pile of a moon? Yes it should be possible. That gives me an idea, maybe the surface of that moon could be used as a dumping ground for slag >>42482593>Does it have no smaller turrets at all?It does but I'm not going to draw them all on a rough version.>>42481285>Yes! We have to get him to want to come join us permanently to keep Estavan from corrupting his with his wicked ways.Hmm...>>42482696>No Sonia, noooooooo~~~~~Admittedly things didn't turn out so well when they were trying to kill each other. But they have stopped for the most part since that treaty signing.
Do dominion plasma cannons support a "ball" mode like the neeran ones have?>It does but I'm not going to draw them all on a rough version.I probaby was expecting that ship class to be too similar to the homeworld 1 cruiser.>dumping ground for slag If we add the right chemicals, would it be possible to slowly transform the moon into a solid object with that?>FA newsHow have things been going while we were busy with house problems? Have the shallans recovered from having to replace their government? How's our first heavy doing? In case we have any money remaining at the end of our shopping spree, what kind of infrastructure does the FA need at the moment?
>>42483901>That gives me an idea, maybe the surface of that moon could be used as a dumping ground for slagI was actually thinking something similar, but with recycling that 'old tractor systems to increase gravity and calm dust storms'.Rioja's moon is a rubble type, and there is a small debris belt as well, according to wiki.Could we turn the moon into a big tractor system to pull in debris from orbit? A properly located repulsor bit may be needed to ensure it doesn't try to tractor itself into the planet long term, but that shouldn't be a huge issue due to the masses involved?If you tossed in slag from mining operations, planetary refining, or even added some of the system's smaller rubble asteroids, we could probably make a project of using sections of the moon for fusion cannon target practice. It could eventually melt the surface or sections of it into a solid mass. If that works, the rubble-state of the interior could be internally melted like that one Rovinar asteroid base. And we could finally build Crazy Has'Ann's Travelling Torpedo Emporium AND MOON BASE
>>42483027The tech might not be here yet, but this is an endgame plan anyways. I guess the analogy would be comparing Zeros to thrust-vectoring antigravity jet fighters. Both of them have very good agility, but while the Zero achieves this by being light and small and the jet fighter uses brute force thrust and antigravity power. The advantage of using the jet is 1. Durability/Survivability and 2. Mounting equipment on it that would simply be too big for the Zero. We could eventually reach the point where we have Assault Corvettes with spinal plasma guns backed up by Assault Cruisers with target-tracking spinfusor turrets. It would be the ultimate expression of Attack Cruisers, superheavy dogfighters that can run circles around mediums the same way corvettes can run circles around battlecruisers.We currently use Attack Cruisers in a boom and zoom fashion mostly out of preference. But the ultimate expression of boom and zoom tactics would be using afterburners to produce cruisers that redline their dampers in pursuit of pure speed versus agility. They would also benefit from turret mounts because they could use their full firepower while coming and going.
>>42484159>>FA news>How have things been going while we were busy with house problems?There have been additional small scale attacks against targets out by the TAC 2 Relay. Nothing major but there have been several attempts to knock out long range sensors. Other relays back from the front lines are beginning to suffer from an increasing number of Neeran raids. Some are beginning to suspect that sweeps of the areas failed to locate them all during the last major offensive. They may even be setting up hidden production facilities behind the Alliance lines once again.Convoy security is being tightened as a result. Everything else is business as usual, holding off minor offensives in different locations and trying to prepare again for large ones.>Have the shallans recovered from having to replace their government?Only partially. Many colonies see regular protests with the larger established ones having the most difficulty maintaining order. Most of the smaller Aries support drones and equivalents being shipped into Shallan space are not being used for the war effort but to help military and police forces keep control of the populace.Arrests of those charged with conspiring with the enemy are going up. It's hard to tell if this is the result of the Neeran trying to take advantage of the situation or security getting out of hand.Mezan is glad that you sent that ship, even with the risk of things going bad in the Dominion it may be safer."On the plus side we almost have enough money for our military spending now. We're ready to buy any Shallan designs you may have acquired data for.">How's our first heavy doing?There are some gun mounting issues that are being solved after field tests revealed a few minor problems. It survived its first battle and proved to be intimidating looking enough to scare off most small attackers like mediums. It hasn't been in a real fight with super heavies present.
>>42485151>Only partially. Many colonies see regular protests with the larger established ones having the most difficulty maintaining order.Would a better supply of luxury or convenience goods help them to maintain order?>Neeran raidsWhat is the FA doing about that beyond better escorts? I'm sure they know how unpleasant things could become if the neeran forces actually manage to establish hidden production facilities.
>>42485151>MezanAnything we can do to help?
For now you're going to hold off on inviting both of your Krath associates to be in the same place at the same time. You do make sure to show Eldal around your property back home."It seems quite pleasant. I've spent most of my life aboard ships and stations. Faction, Neeran. They have parks occasionally but nothing like this.""You've never been outside on a planet before?""In cities. I don't even know what it's like on the Krath homeworlds. I think they didn't want me to miss it so I was never given any memory of them.""Well, it's not much but you can spend some time on the property over the next few days, just make sure security knows where you are. I don't want you to get shot if they get jumpy."The hardest part of having a Krath guest is knowing what's appropriate to offer in terms of refreshments. You made sure to have some fresh fruit on hand but as your guest points out there is such a thing as too much of a good thing. You can't eat the same thing all the time.>>42485416>What is the FA doing about thatThey have units actively searching the relays. As most of their personnel are needed either at the front or training bases they've begun to request that training units posted nearby conduct additional sweeps as part of their final lessons.>>42485697>Anything we can do to help?"Fix your problems in the Dominion then get your fleets up here. A few of our people really want to see the new plasma cannons in action you guys have been working on.">Do dominion plasma cannons support a "ball" mode like the neeran ones have?Normally no. You'd need to modify it so that was it always did that.
>>42485861>They have parks occasionally but nothing like this.Suggested this before but would Eldal be up for a small portion of land on Rioja, a lodge, and an orchard? (when it's possible, of course.)
Did we ever get around to sending Versa that garden module? Complete with Glados manipulator robot hanging from the ceiling? She could also use it to paint.
>>42486489I doubt anyone will be happy if it comes out we gave a krath land and thus noble status within the Dominion.I'm just not sure if it will be the Krath, Rovinar or Dominion people that want to kill us more.
>>42486604Consider it sent, though the Terrans are going to go insane making sure it's not being used to build anything dangerous.>>42486489>>42486710You could always keep it quiet and bury the record. Setting up a small fund to automatically pay the taxes. As long as it was in an undeveloped area it could go unnoticed for a couple decades.As the situation in Erid space stabilises preparations begin for you to transfer your post to Rioja. You have an advantage when it comes to start up of your fleet with the presence of your assault corvettes. A full wing was to be assigned to you once they were built which would have taken time. Your Command ship and Battlecruiser command squad are also officially designated as part of your fleet for simplicity sake. Eldal informs you he has something to take care of with House intelligence and will see you on Rioja in a few weeks.The Earl would like to know if there is anything in particular you would like to help build up your fleet. There will be some financial support, even though some of the Lords have been saying you don't need it. You'll be working with the Planetary Governor to help raise additional funding for your fleet, or using your own cash reserves. The central government will pay 30% of the costs to regular acquisitions up to a point.What do you want as a freebie to start you off?[ ] 1 Assault corvette Wings[ ] 2 Attack corvette Wings[ ] 2 Mixed or Attack cruiser squadrons[ ] 1 Battlecruiser / Fast Battleship Squadron[ ] A Carrier group[ ] HLV's & Mechanized divisions[ ] Other
>>42487194>[x] 1 Assault Corvette Wing
>>42487194>[ ] 2 Attack corvette Wingsi'm going for this as i think pirates will the the highest threat and having a larger force will be able to cover more ground while the sector develops
>>42487194>[ ] 1 Assault corvette WingsReally, it is the best choice. High quality ships with little in the needs of manpower compared to most other ships. They perform well and are deadly if used correctly. And they come in sufficient numbers for us to be able to use them for patrols and the like.However it does hurt to ignore that Fast Battleship Squadron.
>>42487194[x] 2 Attack corvette WingsThe Run is mostly a back water, so we don't need all the fancy toys. What we do need are numbers so that we can hunt down pirates without leaving places undefended.Also, I'd like to suggest an idea.With the new corvettes being high stress machines, I was thinking about those SRL guys we encountered in the Maelstrom. The ones using the Scarabs/Deltas fitted with older Emergency Thrusters for larger ships.Why don't we use non-FTL scarabs fitted with similar systems for pilot training?You could have a flight school operating a wing or so worth of these craft, and in the event of an emergency they can act as local defenders in support of 'true' starships.Larger worlds like Dreminth are likely to have small fleets of these vessels training pilots.And with JD's capture of that Scarab facility and the help testing it, I believe we have production rights?All you have to do is redesignate the craft as 'Primary Trainers' and you've got an overlooked force multiplier for defensive actions around your worlds...
>>42487194[ ] 1 Assault corvette WingsWe don't really need low quality ships for ourselves. I mean we got one planet to protect and we are surrounded by a sea of allies all around us. We also got that anti-piracy cooperation going for us in the area so pirates really should not be all that big of a deal for us. Not to mention there should already be other JD forces in the Run due to all the other planets and bases we have there. We could form an elite core that they could draw upon, atlest until our fleet really starts to grow in size, when we are not out with an expedition fleet.
>>42487677>flight school operating a wing or so worth of these craftmaybe we could talk to the earl about training up some sort of volunteer guard to use scarabs, where we have vetted people from the planet doing week long training/patrol exercises with the scarbs then after a week get rotated out for next weeks batch of troops. might be a good way to provide for pilots in an emergency and and exceptional people could potentially get recruited into the main navy
>>42487841>>42487677>Why don't we use non-FTL scarabs fitted with similar systems for pilot training?Newport fleet systems produces a light attack craft they've been marketing to Alliance training bases like that. Sonia agreed to pick up a few for the base.The scarabs would be cheaper to get hold of but would add a couple of weeks to get all of them converted.Actually your House has mostly used simulators, the occasional modified starfighter, and the real thing with additional safeties. J-D had more assault corvettes per capita than anyone before that whole incident. Now that production is back up you still do. Training squadrons up until recently still needed to complete a few basic deployments with the older corvettes because that's what you have the most of. Archivald is working to do away with that thanks to his training system overhaul. The House does have some Scarabs which will probably see use now. Many were being set aside for use as repair craft.[ ] Get training Scarabs (Refit delay)[ ] Get Newport Delta Trainers[ ] Don't bother
>>42488041>[ ] Get training Scarabs (Refit delay)
>>42488041Is the Newport Delta Trainer capable of fitting the modernized Scarab's upgraded shields and the single full-sized weapon?If so, I'd have to vote for them just to avoid the stigma that the Scarab picked up in the Faction Wars (death trap). Especially for any heading to Rioja.If not, they're kind of missing the most important part of the crazy plan.
>>42488041>[x] Get training Scarabs (Refit delay)
>>42488197The Delta trainer is capable of mounting live weaponry, the same 2 light pulse cannon arrays that the normal delta does. It also has a starfighter grade missile launcher. They do have modern shields.Most of the Scarabs you saw the Pirates using had their weapons and systems upgraded to the standards of the Scarab II. They're armed with 2x light pulse cannon turrets will 360 degree coverage.
>>42488041>Scarabshonestly the scarabs seem simple enough, could we use what we learned from our HAG, assault corvette and other projects to build a modular, high performance (maybe some stealth) light attack craft?
>>42487194>2 attack corvette wingsWe need to expand our patrol numbers and attack corvettes have proven that they're still pretty dangerous against standard military, much less pirate scum.We can continue to siphon off assault corvettes from our yard to fill their numbers over time.
>>42488435>>42488041[x] Scarab/Scarab II my vote goes to, then!>>42488516Let's not go crazy with more non-FTL small attack ships. Despite my crazy idea, they're a really limited market unless you want to try to sell them as the suicide machines the original Scarabs became known as...
We seem to be evenly matched on 2x attack vs 1x assault. Maybe it will change, just make sure to link that post if voting on it.Seems we're picking up some Scarabs. >>42488516>build a modular, high performance (maybe some stealth) light attack craft?What all did you have in mind? The Scarab II was already rather high performance, they just didn't have enough firepower to be used on their own and cant take too many hits. The Rebels used them in a way they weren't intended to be used, which was to support larger ships. >Mercenaries: Possible payments for services rendered, going beyond what can be expected normally from mercenaries - Ships captured from Erid not compatible with J-D doctrine, long term low risk contracts with the House in secure space, offer to join the House as men-at-arms?Those mercenaries have completed their contracts but are considering future work before they see about replacement starships. Some of the ones captured from House Erid have been made available to them. Your reputation as someone that can make money for those involved means they're more interested in working for you than the rest of your House if possible. They want it to be clear that they would still be mercenaries and wouldn't accept suicide missions, but they're willing to negotiate on specifics. The two former merc groups have learned to work well enough together and could be hired as a single squadron. They also have another proposal. Help build their units up to two squadrons. Help get them ships and they'll find crews for them, good ones.If posibble they'd also like to throw a request for afterburners into the negotiations. They've seen Seth's Dragoons in action with them. Most of their remaining ships or those salvage from Erid can be upgraded with them.>What say?
>>42488703>Let's not go crazy with more non-FTL small attack ships. Despite my crazy idea, they're a really limited market unless you want to try to sell them as the suicide machines the original Scarabs became known as...Well, if its a whole training wing of them, then the system is so patrolled that you cant pull any runner. As soon as stealth is breached or subterfuge over a Scarab Flight should be on you in minutes.However that holds only true if they have FTL, without FTL they wont be paroling a system only holding guard orbit around a planet basically, and being very dangerous traffic cops.However, however, however, a non FTL ship should be easily converted with the shortest ranged and probably very cheap and highly robust FTL, that allows at least microjumps (very important to train) and perhaps the ability to fly to the nearest five systems in a sphere.They wont go on any deployment ever what with basically having to jump to each and every star on the road, but for close range patrol, training in FTL tactics and proper jump as well as having microjump ability that is not a flaw its a feature.So, in essence non-FTL are crap, but they stop being crap if we can bolt on a J-1 to J-5 (depending on which is more cheaper to get in numbers while still being sturdy and safe to regular use and abuse) FTL drive on them so they can microjump and hop from star to star. This way thay can do garrison duty, actually patrol around a star system and nearby ones, and of course train our pilots in microjumps and proper real space reversion to correct coordinates.What they wont be able to do is perform long jumps, or to combat areas under their own power unless the enemy is nice and comes to them, and most likely will not be able to patrol most trade routes if they are over J-5.The way to make it work is to have modular Drive units/ Drive Sled for such non FTL corvettes. Swap the J1 or J5 for a J15 or J20 and suddenly your corvette will be fully functional
>>42487194I suppose I'll break my usual lurk only stance and vote for the >2 attack corvettes since we'll probably have people with grudges funding pirates to raid our section of the trade lane and the numbers will cover more ground.
>>42489255>Your reputation as someone that can make money for those involved>Sonia has Reputation.>You know what is reputation? Is people talking, is gossip. I also have reputation; not so pleasant, I think you know
>>42489255>Serth's Dragoons Blasted spell check.>>42489605Didn't they screw him over anyways because it was going to kill a bunch of civilians otherwise?>>42489481>The way to make it work is to have modular Drive units/ Drive Sled for such non FTL corvettes. Swap the J1 or J5 for a J15 or J20 and suddenly your corvette will be fully functionalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw0c7aE_8NUScarab II's like the originals can already be fitted with FTL systems normally, it just means reduced performance since they're supposed to be carried by the larger ships. FTL systems are expensive though.There are enough old corvettes around still that pilots and navigators are normally just assigned to one of those for FTL training since they don't need extra prep time. Then again that's the same kind of thinking that has kept training squadrons using the old ships.
>>42489255>What all did you have in mind?was kinda thinking to build the ship around a modular spinal mount bay where the weapon could be easily switch in and out, along with enough engines to out pace Assault corvette and Shields to take a hit or two. given the size i'd expect the weapon bay i'd expect it to only have limited ammo or have its weapons powered by a separate reactor that was a part of the assembly mounted to the craftonce it runs out of ammo the mounted weapon should be able to be ejected if needed from the ship, lowering its mass and allowing the craft to quickly disengage and return to its carrier to rearm or jump out if it has ftl.
>>42489481>they won't be patrolling a systemThat is kind of the idea. I was trying to solve the problem of getting specifically pilots trained on the 3D maneuver systems of the assault corvettes.With the Alliance training we did, they disabled the FTL on the assault corvettes to prevent people from running off with them. Transports were required to jump them around the system for training operations for most if not all of the training. There is no reason we can't do the same when needed.And for the defense aspect of it, they don't need to go far from the planet, as they would be defending against an attack in orbit or an invasion of the planet.It seems like a cheap, real flight experience solution to the training issues our House faces with the assault corvettes. That it doubles as a swarm of light attack ships in the event of an attack on the world in question is a bonus.Let the traffic cops be traffic cops, and mobile assets give chase when microjumps or FTL are present.If the PDF wants to invest in some FTL scarabs for system patrol craft, let the PDF handle that. There are probably better choices, though.>>42489255>mercsSounds like a decent investment to get them up to 2 squadrons, though it may be a longer term deal.If we do go for it, we should see if we can secure some ships from the shipyard in the Run we own shares in. They produce Vengeance Types, which should be afterburner compatible. Doesn't Mike's group also contain some new Firestorms? We've got connections to secure some of those.And then there is also the Shallan design being set up...It may be worth putting them in contact with Medel, as well. Knowing a source of potential work never hurts for a merc.Or maybe they'd consider joining up with RTS?
>>42490083I'm not sure if all of this is doable. Not on a Scarab at any rate. >>42490605>Or maybe they'd consider joining up with RTS?They would prefer to work for you. If employed through RTS they would expect a clause on their contract that they have the option to leave employment with the company in the event of your death. (As it would probably no longer be profitable after that.)Rioja has changed quite a bit since construction began on your holdings here. The dome of the atmospheric containment shield over the city is clearly visible through the surrounding smog banks. Traffic to and from the surface is steady, HLV's and shuttles transiting between the main cities and the station. You don't really have a residence on the surface yet, not in your city at any rate. Priority construction projects continue to be securing enough housing for the workers, residents and refugees. The differences between those groups is narrowing as projects continue to find employment for those headed for the planet. Things are improving. From the number of intercepted ships some people may seem to think they're improving more than they are. Five ships have been captured by the PDF. A couple of them touched down on the surface, others docked at the station with false IFFs. Most are the same kind of smuggler ships you used to capture back when you first explored the Run, the largest being a cruiser sized one. Luckily you're not converting ships like that into escort carriers any more so it will probably be bought by RLS for cargo hauling. At the equator the needle like top of the worlds tallest building peeks above the lower cloud deck. It's only visible if zooming in, but some of the advertisements that run on the station show it once in awhile. Parts of the lower sections are already open and business owners or wealthy individuals fleeing to the Run have already bought apartments. >Live aboard ship until your city expands>Get an apartment in main city>Other?
>>42491227>Get an apartment in main cityEasiest way to see how things are doing is to be there.
>>42491227>>Get an apartment in main city>>Other?Could we perhaps build a small place in the north for ourselves? Like a Baron should have when we invite people to our planet?
>>42491227>>42491227>Live aboard ship until city expandsIt might not be the greatest, but we do need to worry about security. If the guy Fox was talking to isn't dead, there may be assassination attempts. Or Aries... or people like that guy that stabbed us on the nearby Navigator's Station... or former Posat guys crazed and blaming us for the collapse... Or people we've taken ships from...Or evil Neeran. Or Marson Edict's angry clone...And thanks for running, TSTG.
>>42491227>[x]Live aboard ship until your city expandsSpace is already at a premium until the atmosphere gets better, so needlessly taking up an apartment is excessive.
>>42491384>Could we perhaps build a small place in the north for ourselves? Like a Baron should have when we invite people to our planet?Yes, but be aware that it would need to be sealed against the environment for now. And were you thinking more mansion or fortress?>>42491507Thanks for playing. I don't know when the next game will be. Had even canceled this weekend's game for awhile. Since I will need to stop posting soon here is something of a heads up for next time.>>42491227You're still in your first week on Rioja when the calls start to come in. Not the solicitors, they never stop and are directed to the right place. You're putting your 400 million into DHI and letting your company assets on Rioja continue to break even. That part is easy, annoying but easy.Ferigold the Fat was also happy about the news you were building the plasma weapon and fuel cell facility. You suspect the corpulent Dro'all is going to break down your door once he finds out you're building CX transports. The real problem are the three diplomats that have recently arrived. They call themselves diplomats but they're really recruiters.One each from Houses Ber'helum, Kharbos and the Ruling House. They're attempting to convince key members of your House that it would be best to side with them in the not so distant future. Each House is offering production licenses for their newest toys and trinkets at no cost if Jerik-Dremine sides with them.The current Ruling House is weak is the claim by both of the others. They also support the most conservative policies in attempts to gain favour with the older Houses. Ones that don't want new species being Knighted or social changes. Despite this they have a measure of legitimacy having held their position for a couple centuries.
Ber'helum may just be the most militarily powerful House at the moment, and that's without gravity well tech. They're willing to budge on some social reforms and will tolerate their allies doing as they please with their own internal policies provided it doesn't rock the boat. Kharbos has spent years after the incident at Gesaur cleaning the proverbial skeletons out of the closet. They've maintained their experimentalist roots and are prepared to make changes if it will help the larger Dominion. Just about any changes. This hasn't made them too many friends among the old guard.These plus Helios are the most powerful Houses that support the Factions Alliance and the continued war effort. The other Major Houses do not, but will certainly sell war materiel to the Alliance and donate money occasionally.And stopping here. There is more each House can offer but that will have to wait until next time. See you then!Watch I only have a short orientation tomorrow and am able to resume writing at 1 post left.
>>42491384>>42492026Didn't we already set aside some land in the middle of the city for a giant governor office/civic building/fortress? Not much point in constructing a separate governors mansion if it would also need to be a fortress.
>>42492070Any indication which way Helios support falls? I know that our House generally is aligned with the Ruling House, but I'm inclined to think that we should support tacitly Ber'helum given our relationship with them, their general military strength and their position on small social reform, which we are aligned with.
>>42492070>>42495155Seconding Ber'helum since they mesh pretty solidly with our personal goals/ethics. Although we haven't really had much interaction with the Ruling House at all. Ber'helum did help us out with the GWG recently though, and actions count for a hell of a lot more than words. Let's talk to Winifred if possible. By complaining about them, so that it doesn't sound like treason.
>>42496000One big issue with siding with Ber'helum is that some of their allies such as house Xygen are looking to withdraw from direct support of the Alliance.It may possibly cause them to interfere in Dominion politics even with their current policy.>>42492070Who is rank two in Dominion current power chart anyway?Do we have an estimate of which side currently has the most support? Who do the Knight's Errant favor anyway?
>>42492070Is there any way to broker an integration of the Ruling House and Ber'Helum?I think nobody wants there to be a Dominion-wide Civil War, so if there was a way to merge the current ruling house with the House that has the strongest military, through a wedding or something similar this should stabilise the dominion quite a bit. (Maybe if both Houses also cede some worlds to neighbouring houses to not appear too threatening)
>>42494547>Didn't we already set aside some land in the middle of the city for a giant governor office/civic building/fortress?Yes, and planning had begun on it, but people didn't want it built yet because it might be seen as excessive while there were still civilians that needed housing.>>42495155>Any indication which way Helios support falls?Officially they're supporting the Ruling House until someone convinces or proves to them that they shouldn't be.>>42496000>Let's talk to Winifred if possible. By complaining about them, so that it doesn't sound like treason."It's no secret that each of them want our elite units on their side in a Civil War. We may not have the numbers of a larger House but every spear needs a tip."You point out that you remain best suited to raiding or training."Your specialty doesn't matter. The House produces more assault corvettes than any equivilant and more importantly has people skilled enough to man them.>>42497261>One big issue with siding with Ber'helum is that some of their allies such as house Xygen are looking to withdraw from direct support of the Alliance.They're no longer allied. Their core values have moved too far apart. >Do we have an estimate of which side currently has the most support? As usual everyone tries to maintain something approaching parity. On the surface the Ruling House has the support of more Houses than any of the seven. Many of those supporters are in the same position as your own House.>Who do the Knight's Errant favor anyway?The ones you've had dealings with, the Knights Errant of Helscion Ten, support and are supported by the Ruling House. They're one of the most powerful but there are other orders.>>42497372>Is there any way to broker an integration of the Ruling House and Ber'Helum?You'll call in the Ber'helum diplomat to talk it over.Which I will start writing when I get back.
>>42498196>You'll call in the Ber'helum diplomat to talk it over.Not holding my breath, personally. J-D example shows that it can work very well, but I doubt their pride will allow it.There will need to be clear and significant threat to Dominion for this to work; Potential Third Faction War or Aries take-over is not enough.
>>42497372>I think nobody wants there to be a Dominion-wide Civil WarThe Ruling House doesn't, everyone who opposes them probably does. Why would they not want civil war, especially since we currently have one of the weakest Ruling Houses ever?>Maybe if both Houses also cede some worlds to neighbouring houses to not appear too threateningThis will never happen in a million years. The point is to appear strong and unassailable: how would ceding territory help that? If anything it would show signs of weakness, like they want to appease their neighbours instead of ruling them.>You'll call in the Ber'helum diplomat to talk it over.I personally think it's a waste of time, the Dominion is on the path to civil war sooner or later.
>>42500331No, see, my reasoning is this:Ruling House: Wants to stay in powerBer'Helum: Wants to rule the dominionOther Houses: Are likely not strong enough to lead themselves, but don't want a too strong Ruling House (since that would lead to tyranny) or a too weak Ruling House (Since that invites anarchy)The point of merging the two Houses would be to get both the current Ruling House and Ber'Helum their respective goals without the need for war (which is unpredictable, costly and has seriously bad timing while another war is on) while trying to avoid a grand coalition against them by ceding parts of their territory, so that at the end there is a Ruling House which is strong enough to guarantee stability, but not so strong they can 100% dominate internal politics.This should at least stave off civil war for the foreseeable future.
"I think nobody wants a Dominion-wide Civil War, not while another war is raging." you tell Lord Talik Pryas, the dro'all diplomat from House Ber'helum."You are right about that Baron Reynard. It would be incredibly inconvenient both for the people and the larger war effort. Certainly our House would like to avoid a conflict with those that support similar policies regarding the Alliance. That isn't true for all members of the Seven. I suspect that in the event of a war there would be little in the way of direct conflict between Ber'helum and the Ruling House. It's the others, these corporate interests, those and the ones that wish to stop all support of the Factions Alliance. They are the largest threat right now. Those Houses haven't been bleeding themselves dry on the front lines and will take the opportunity to strike if any of their vassal states are dragged into a conflict."You ponder that while looking to the full wall holodisplay showing the planet below. "If the current Ruling House were powerful enough, do you believe it would prevent a larger war?""It would certainly convince many to negotiate, making it a shorter one.""So is there was a way to ally the current Ruling House with the House that has the strongest military, through a wedding or something similar? This could stabilise the Dominion quite a bit. that or even a peaceful way of transferring power from the current Ruling House to Ber'helum would be better than more fighting.""Such an Alliance with the Ruling House would be difficult for us to tolerate. They have proven repeatedly that they are too weak, both of will and strength of arms, to help the Dominion with its problems. If we can convince more of the other Houses to stop supporting the Ruling House and ally with us it might be enough to get Helios to take our side. Once that happens things will have largely been decided.>Cont.
"For starters we would need one other major House on our side. Bonrah and Xygen have banded together against us and are trying to get Nasidum to join them so they are all unavailable. We would need someone like Kharbos to support us."The diplomat isn't saying it but most of those same plans could also be used to help strengthen the Ruling House. Kharbos was the last Ruling House and hasn't had the best relations as a result, but their government has gone through enough change recently that they might be open to it. Convincing them to side with either group might be enough. Mind you they'd probably like to revive their own bid for power but they're less equipped to do it.If you had better relations with Helios it might have been possible to help give them an earlier push in the right direction. That might have been a real help at this point.>Who is rank two in Dominion current power chart anyway?Nasidum but they have some problems controlling their vassals and with internal politics that make them unsuited to become the Ruling House themselves at the moment. That doesn't mean they couldn't support someone else.
Well, i don't think we can help in this situation. If we can't persuade the house we have the best relationship with to do something they find distasteful we certainly aren't going to be persuading Helios who hate our guts or Kharbos who we have completely avoided having to deal with since the Gesaur thing to do anything at all.Guess its civil war time.
>>42487194>Eldal informs you he has something to take care of with House intelligence and will see you on Rioja in a few weeksI'm slightly worried about this. He wouldn't do anything questionable without asking Sonia, right?>>42501327>HeliosDoes anybody we know have good relations with them?
>>42501565>persuading Helios who hate our gutsCooling laser time?
>>42501167>They have proven repeatedly that they are too weak, both of will and strength of arms, to help the Dominion with its problems. Would it be possible to convince ber'helum that the ruling house is still salvageable if they handle the Aries situation well?
Past 300 now.I remember last week a few people were pretty keen at making a dedicated point defense barge. We should has RSS look into that.
>>42501745>Ruling House>handle the Aries situationIt's slightly more likely than Neeran Empire turning into pacifists overnight, I suppose. Slightly.
>>42501840Well, that would be where Sonia gets involved...
>>42501327I'd say we support Ber'helum. The Duke is based. They supported us when we needed help. They fit more with our and Sonias ideals. The Dominion as a whole would probably benefit more with them leading it as opposed to the current Ruling House doing so.>>42501826Aren't those redundant as they would have little use over fighting Fighters as opposed to a a ship with weapons and point defense that could do the same job fairly well.
>>42501565>or Kharbos who we have completely avoided having to deal with since the Gesaur thingThat's been the case with a lot of people. They're trying to work on that, part of the reason they sent someone to see you. If they can improve relations with people who were at Gesaur it would probably go a long way towards cleaning up their image. Everyone who was involved in that has been punished.>>42501600>Does anybody we know have good relations with them?Plenty of people. Your relations with them were good until you completely blew it that one time. Do you want someone on better terms to ask them what it would take to fix things up between you?Will probably involve sneaking and/or salvage.>>42501632>Cooling laser time?That's going to require support of several other players or I'm never going to hear the end of it.>>42501745>Would it be possible to convince ber'helum that the ruling house is still salvageable if they handle the Aries situation well?"We already know that they're not handling it well. Our House has been investigating since your request for aid. They have hidden information that corporate infiltration of minor Houses was getting this bad. You may already know why; to take all of those illegal corporate holdings for themselves when they launch their offensive.The other Houses will not stand by when that happens."
>>42501961>Cooling laser time?I'd rather with with Ber'helum on that. We are closer to them than we are to Helios. If we can get Helios to work closely with Ber'helum then the 3 of us could cooperate on that one to make our Plasma Guns awesome.>Will probably involve sneaking and/or salvage.I am game for salvaging relations with Helios.
>>42501961>That's going to require support of several other players or I'm never going to hear the end of it.Ber'helum, Helios. J-D/RSS tag team for cold rays would be my vote personally. Let's reverse the fuck out of the plasma weapon situation and make everyone crave LD plasma instead of Republic.
>>42501961>That's going to require support of several other players or I'm never going to hear the end of it.>>42501632 Anon here, and I'll back Madman's idea.Oh, a question I wanted to ask - can we mount LD cannons on Shade (aka Shallan Attack Frigate)? Actually, would buyers be interested in LD-armed atack frigate? Or LD assault corvette?
>>42501327Hmmm....actually someone on the ruling house awarded us with the Outstanding Unit Award didn't they? It would be interesting to see if the ambassador knows more about whose attention we have attracted. >If you had better relations with Helios it might have been possible to help give them an earlier push in the right direction. That might have been a real help at this point.Ouch. That hit right in the sore spot with out mess up with them. Somehow and someway we really need to make an effort to mend relations with them.>>42501897I personally like Ber'helum as well but I am leery of any option that would put us at odds not so much the Ruling House, but the Knights Errant who support said Ruling House since we have a fairly good relationship with them.Though it seems like no matter which side we choose to support loyalties and friendships will be tested.
>>42502120>Or LD assault corvette?The day we get Spinal Mounted LD Plasma guns on Assault Corvettes is the day we win at everything.
>>42502155Aren't the LD plasma cannons currently the twin-linked variant that makes up for the difference in damage between those and republic ones? If we made a single barrel variant it might get on an assault corvette.
I am up for mending things with Helios. Even if we can't convince them to support Ber'helum getting back into their good graces is very important.We should also meet the Kharbos representative and scope things out. Maybe get an update on House Kharbos by House Intel before that since i don't think we know much about them.And because we can't ignore the Ruling House we need to meet their guy too, but they've honestly fucked up far too much to keep leading the Dominion. We should dump them while we still can.
>>42502137Way I see it there are several pictures that needs to be taken into account for this decision.Number one is the future of the Dominion. Ber'helum is a more progressive House than the Ruling House. More flexible. This is something I consider vital seeing as we've begun taking in a number of Knights that aren't Human or Dro'all.Then there is the stance on the Neeran War. I don't think there is a anon or namefag here that would side with Bonrah or Xygen who wants to pull out. We all see the big picture here.Then there is the personal relations things between the Houses. Relations between JD and RH is one of us trying to please the RH and they mostly not giving a shit. Relations between JD and Ber'helum seems to be one of more mutual cooperation and friendship.So by those points I see Ber'helum being the better choice with the RH coming in second and Bonrah and Xygen not even being an option.
>>42502233I'm really hoping that if we can get Kharbos, Helios, and Ber'helum together, we can make it a relatively bloodless civil war. If they see us coming with a decent alliance they might just hand over the reigns.
>>42502258Duke Ber'helum was also a really cool dude when we met him at that ball.
>>42501632>>42501961I certainly wouldn't mind using the cooling laser technology to try and mend relations with House Helios.
>>42502293Yeah, he is based.>>42502270While I personally doubt that the RH will just give up I do believe we can make it less painful for the Dominion than it needs to be.
Thus, a devious plan was born.
I wonder if Kharbos would be interested in the Athena Class data? I mean they had their own Cruiser that used a Frigate and a two Corvettes that could detach no? The Athena class could maybe be worked into something similar by them?
>>42501897Agreed on the Ber'hulem points.It is a shame everyone was terrified of that one Kharbos Knight we found in the Pandora Cluster. If we'd actually chosen to return him to Kharbos or turn him over to Ber'hulem, we'd have either a favor to play with or hopefully have screwed up their political capital a bit more.>>42502006>cooling laserAgreed. Ber'hulem has always been my favored Major House, and their support (despite my initial 'that is it!?') was damned solid.>>42501961Crazy idea... What would happen if Sonia were to offer to set up Assault Corvette lines in Ber'hulem space? Or better, we convinced DHI to do so?Combine it with some of our improved training deals and maybe a few tours of Sonia working to train Ber'hulem & allies assault corvette crews?Would that be bankable political capital for Ber'hulem?Or maybe we could try to secure some folks like the Knights Errant we know over to Ber'hulem's side?A big concern though:If support from the Ruling House isn't pulled away in a single deft swoop (think tablecloth removed from under china/glasses), wouldn't it cause a civil war or at least someone attempting a Coup from a crippled Ruling House?
>>42502399>wouldn't it cause a civil warI am fairly sure a civil war will happen irregardless of what we do. The problem that needs dealing with is how long and destructive it will be and who will win it.
>>42502258I agree that the RH isn't as progressive as we and many others would like but that is only because they need the support of some more conservative houses. Maybe if they had some more progressive allies they could push more reforms without too great of a backlash.Besides the Knights Errant and a few other instances we actually haven't had too much direct contact with the HR ourselves. Maybe if we learned more about there situation we could help resolve this.We have avoided House Kharbos like the plague for awhile, but it seems like they change as is necessary for them to survive and we already know house Ber'helum is more progressive. Somehow, someway, we need to make it so this would be more of a two sided civil war than a three sided civil war. (Of course there would still be multiple sides with the small houses, but you know what I mean)
>>42502484I think we have a fair shot to at lest turn it into mostly a 2 way fight.We got Ber'helum on one side, to whom we can probably add Helios and Kharbos.The RH does not really have any strong support from the major Houses so unless they manage to pull some shenanigans they are going to be alone without the support of any of the Seven.Bonrah and Xygen form their little block opposed to ours.It all comes down to Nasidum and Che'len. If we can get either of those two to join, or both, into an alliance with Ber'helum, Helios and Kharbor then we got a majority on our side vs two much weaker sides. The RH would then probably fight to the bitter end, I know we would. Xygen and Bonrah would fold after some fighting, probably after we foil some major offensive of theirs and they can work out some settlement from Ber'helum that either gains them something or at the very lest does not fuck them over completely.
Politics aside, what ever did happen to that plan to synthesize Rare element that we invested 100 million in?
>>42502399>Crazy idea... What would happen if Sonia were to offer to set up Assault Corvette lines in Ber'hulem space? Or better, we convinced DHI to do so?Ber'helum has assault corvette lines, they've participated in the Dominion Assault Corvette program since its inception. While they have more of those ships than your House currently does they only make up a small percentage of their corvette forces.>>42502120>>42502155Smallest Faction ship designs that can mount plasma weapons are attack cruisers. Though I suppose a smaller version of the Mad Eye with LD's is possible since I originally designed it with 2 guns in mind. New toys from House Kharbos.The previous ship design and upgrade programs started by Kharbos almost 2 decades ago were intended to cheaply upgrade the Dominion fleets and make them a credible threat against the other Factions. The main components were the Scarab II, Attack Corvette II, and their Frigate/attack cruiser hybrid. While the last aspect of the program was not as popular, the Attack Corvette II has proven to be enormously successful. It may have diverted funds away from the Ruling House led Assault Corvette program but many Houses would not and have not been able to afford the higher performance craft. It's getting to the point where the old designs are being left in the dust. You've seen it. The brawlers are needed for close combat, but escort craft with better point defense to protect Carriers are also a necessity.Kharbos has spent the last few years tracking assault corvette development and plans by the Dominion and Terrans. As a result they've created a compatible assault corvette design with a hull that can be finished out normally, or as Frigate with an additional expansion for shields, turrets and point defense.They could also be refit for use as landing or boarding ships.Much of the changes could be incorporated into Ruling House and DHI design options in future iterations.>Cont
>>42502652...wouldn't the RH fighting to the bitter end also involve pulling the "Victory torpedo card" out?Either way I think we should talk to all parties to see if there is some way a compromise or the like can be reached. For lessening the potential casualties if a civil war break out and aiming for a more united dominion. If diplomacy can win over then reform could happen too.We avoided conflict with the FPL....this is just on a much larger scale now.
>>42501961>Will probably involve sneaking and/or salvage.I'm okay with that. It was our fault things went so poorly, and I don't mind working to get back in their good graces.>ruling houseIs there nobody left worth supporting in that House?>They're trying to work on that, part of the reason they sent someone to see youCan we still work out deals with them even if we chose to ally with somebody else? If they're really trying to change how their house handles things, I think they deserve a chance.
>>42502845>Frigate/attack cruiser hybrid>aspect of the program was not as popularWhat's the problem with that ship?
>>42501961I think we should personally see/speak to them. After all it is our fault that our relations have fallen with them. I still support the cooling laser idea with them, but sneaking is also good.
TSTG, would it be possible for you to go through the suggestions page on the wiki and add "possible/not possible" to the various idea? I'm really curious about a lot of them.
Not surprisingly Kharbos has a new line of starfighters to compete with those offered by the Ruling House and Ber'helum. They have a number of questionable upgrade options including an antimatter afterburner which can be jettisoned as a torpedo, or small point defense systems.You know about Berhelum's toys: Gravity wells and new starfighters. The Ruling House has released a new heavy drone starfighter. You don't know how maneuverable it is, but it can carry 6 torpedoes and 2 full sized spinal mount particle beams which you didn't think was possible on a fighter. They're also promoting the new Dominion Fast Battleships which can fit 4 (Single barrel) LD plasma cannon turrets in addition to an impressive number of heavy phase cannon turrets and arrays.http://houseanddominion.wikia.com/wiki/Dominion_Fast_BattleshipApparently that isnt linked on the ships page. Will have to fix that later when my browser is not blinking out.>>42502933It's the one made up of an attack frigate with two docked attack corvettes. >>42503001The crazy ideas page?Just remember that possible doesn't mean beneficial.
>>42502933It was a combat frigate with two attack corvettes welded to it's sides on pylons; People, including me after seeing picture, were very dubious of it's structural integrity.Although Neerans demonstrated that it can be viable...
>>42503055I never did like the Dominion Fast Battleship. It just looks so... Bulky and fat. I much prefer the Alliance Fast Battleship.
By the way, now that we're a Baron we should hand out land to people. My suggestions would be:Kavos(+partnerLinda to prevent future complications from her castle purchase)Mom+Dad+Bekka+Ethan (for the added legal protection nobles get)I'm also probably forgetting somebody.>It's the one made up of an attack frigate with two docked attack corvettes. plsno
>>42502383>I wonder if Kharbos would be interested in the Athena Class data? I mean they had their own Cruiser that used a Frigate and a two Corvettes that could detach no? The Athena class could maybe be worked into something similar by them?The Athena and the Zeus are both designed to be able to dock newer Aries attack cruisers, or their weapon modules designed to fit them. I'm not sure what they could get out of it but they might find something. Offer them data if they ally with [future Ruling House of your choice here]?>>42503138>I never did like the Dominion Fast Battleship. It just looks so... Bulky and fat.Nooooo. I tried.>>42502904>Is there nobody left worth supporting in that House?Nobody Sonia has personally talked to recently but you've only talked to their enemies.You guys want to talk to the Kharbos diplomat first or the Ruling House one?
>>42502845>They have more assault corvettes than JDSo we've just got more elite assault corvettes per capita due to our House's small force size. Basically the same reason we ended up with a Heavy Strike Team using experimental power cell armors?What about the Attack Cruisers we can offer? Ber'hulem might be a solid source (via the Errant shipyards) of knowledge to further refine the Shallan Attack Cruiser into say a new Knight Class?>>42503254Kharbos diplomat should be interesting."You are aware that your House's last bid at becoming Ruling House nearly killed myself and a number of my friends?"
>>42503254Kharbos. Let's see if we can begin work on the coalition.
>>42503254>I tried.I like it. It kinda reminds me of british ww2 steel boxes, erm, tanks.>"You are aware that your House's last bid at becoming Ruling House nearly killed myself and a number of my friends?"Plsno, Sonia, remember the Helios thing. Just sit there and smile.
>>42503254>Nooooo. I tried.I like it, personally.Can you remind me what Mad Eye ACRS is? I can't remember it and wiki comes up blank.
>>42503254>I tried>>42503341>I like itI have to agree with this guy. It has a few things odd about it (like the wonky rear bits that make me think of rolled up jean legs), but it does have a solid look to it.
>>42503450>>36838968>GE and Newport Fleet Systems have finally finished development of a ship Captain "Mad Eye" Jones was working on. It’s an attack cruiser that uses parts from the Gamma Class Assault Corvette but this one can mount a Plasma cannon in addition to 2 torpedo launchers and 4 heavy pusle cannons. There are options to fit other weapons but thanks to its parts compatibility with Faction Assault corvettes you expect it to sell well. Until you see the sale price of them that is.Because of the advanced systems it costs nearly 20 million to build!>otherWe managed to get Bevari his cruiser back at this point, right?
>>42503540>(like the wonky rear bits that make me think of rolled up jean legs)Those are for more engines inside.>>42503562>We managed to get Bevari his cruiser back at this point, right?Roll 3d100 to see how much trouble he had getting it back.
Rolled 98 (1d100)>>42503254>I tried.I really like the way the Rovinar Medium Cruiser looks. Can we get one? Even buying without the cloaking device would be acceptable.>>42503608>Roll 3d100 1I thought Sonia was supposed to get the crusier back for him?
Rolled 84, 36, 18 = 138 (3d100)>>42503608page 10 dice rolls!
Rolled 25 (1d100)>>425036532
Rolled 45, 36, 56 = 137 (3d100)>>42503608Salvage guide my rolls.
Rolled 85 (1d100)>>425036683
Rolled 27, 43, 58 = 128 (3d100)Suppose it is just me who like em a bit more slick.
>>42503562Yeshh.Still, I wonder if (relatively) inexpensive attack frigate armed with spinal LD/torpedo launcher combo plus couple support weapons may interest buyers.Speaking of odd designs, TSTG, Archerfish is basically a heavy corvette/light frigate made out of Standard/Dagger/Attack I corvette components, right?Can it be upgraded with Scarab II/ Assault CRV parts, and how much of improvement it would be, if any?
Has the republic finally coved in to Dominion demand for plasma pistol production?Or can we start designing a LD plasma pistol?There's a LoGH screencap for every situation.
>>42503740Oh and another one - would Ber'hulim be interested in project to try to adapt their Z5Z to be able to carry Republican and/or Aries missile pods?
Thanks for making time for H&D this week TSTG!
I only realised the other day that the Civil War OP uses the same image as another quest that's been active. I would have tried to find another one if I'd realised that but it was hard enough just to decide on that one.Wonder if I should apologize for any confusion I might be causing them.>>42503660>page 10 dice rolls!>>42503653>I thought Sonia was supposed to get the crusier back for him?You were under arrest and before that had a fleet to lead. You could either help him get it or give him the money necessary to hire the mercs he'd need to take it back. >>42503608Why did I say 3d100? >>42503740>Archerfish is basically a heavy corvette/light frigate made out of Standard/Dagger/Attack I corvette components, right?More or less. 2 big engines, a bunch of little ones, missiles and the twin linked main guns from an attack corvette.>Can it be upgradedNot without turning it into something else entirely. I've looked at it and high maneuver drives are not an option. It's like trying to throw upgrades on an Ugly in Star Wars.>>42503888God dammit Yang. That was from one of the prequel series right?They are planning to build a larger but still limited production run for Factions Alliance use. They could potentially be convinced to hold charity auctions.>>42503980The box ones ones that fit into the starfighter hard points for torpedoes? Everybody has access to those.Or did you mean something else?I am not going to be done the next section in time so just in case, see you next time!
>>42504049>Civil War OP uses the same image as another quest that's been activeOh? Which one?
>>42504049Aries high-capacity missile pods from their stealth drone.
>>42487194>Consider it sent, though the Terrans are going to go insane making sure it's not being used to build anything dangerous.What could possibly go wrong?There was a garden grove on Citadel CI-CI-CITAD-DEL-Station.
THANKS FOR RUNNING TSTGMAY YOUR PLASMA CANNONS BE COOL AND POWERFUL
>>42504169>Aries high-capacity missile pods from their stealth drone.>What seems like a small number of drones go after the newer fighters and bombers but once they're within range they launch groups of larger missiles. Or they seem to.>It isn't until these "missiles" begin to fire beams of plasma at the starfighters that you get an idea of what they really are.>Some of them are using those mini drone submunitions, letting them bombard single fighters from multiple directions. These?