“Unidentified vessel, please adjust your course. Identification will be required to process credit based docking fees. Please transmit them at your leisure.” The synthetic voice crackles from the Valen colony’s docking station.Your thinker, uncertain of the Union technology, maintained a questionable speed on its way to the Valen systems, but it has arrived, and reconnected to your mind. The clones within have spent most of the trip sleeping. The Clarke looks quite different from when it first arrived over your world. The hull has been completely rebuilt, the armor plating reprocessed and reforged from its initial damaged state. All insignias and name plates have long since been burned away or replaced. The once modular components of the ship have been replaced, as most of them were missing or destroyed, and its habitation ring is eroded in appearance, although it is perfectly functional.Your refurbished vessel transmits no identification, which would be odd, if the majority of the ships on your sensors were not also just as suspiciously anonymous. Ships of all kinds are docked along the outer edges of the station. The obvious shield cap design of Union freighters, the utilitarian form of Commonwealth ships, even some you are not entirely able to recognize that sit in the shadows of the massive Valen ships. Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!>Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone>FAQ ask.fm/QuestDrone>Discussion page http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest_talk:Hive_Queen_Quest
>>42371875Was wondering where the Clarke got off to. I'll just repost some of the things we were discussing last thread in case we get around to them.Build farms on RalighaLight assault fighterHull: Fighter 50N 50MFixed (x2): 40MArmor: Standard Multi-layer shields 10N 30MCost: 60N 120MLight Fleet BattlecarrierHull: BattlecruiserCrew capacity: 400/40Cost: 2000N 2500MSpinal Mounts: Railgun (x3) 900MTurrets: Blaster (x8) 200MFixed: LPB (x16) 320MAuxiliary: Autocannon (explosive) (x10) 160MMulti-layer shields 150N 450MRapid damage control 45N 60MSpinal Hanger: 10800N 5400MMicrofactory: 100N 300MModule: Drop Pod Launcher (x4) 200N 400MTotal Cost: 13295N 10690MStalker CorvetteHull: Corvette 400N 800MCapacity: 200/20Size: 100 MetersModule Limit: 2Spinal Mount (x1): Ramming Keel 50N 200MTurret (X2): Cyclotron 50MFixed (X2): Ion Cannon 40MAuxiliary (X8): Plasma Lance 80MArmor: Conductive 150N 500MArmor: Reflex 500NUtility: Cloaking Shields 50N 150MUtility: Rapid Damage Control 15N 20MModule: Harpoon 10N 200MModule: Boarding pod launcher 50N 100MTotal Cost: 1075N 2140MAnd I think there was a Siren drone design floating about as well there.
>>42371875>maintained a questionable speed on its way to the Valen systemsDamn 4th wall breakage.Right, namegen. The bane of quests everywhere.We have to rename the ship something innocent like The Orphan or The Steel Child or something.
>>42371942The Orphan works for me, we adopted it after all
>>42371942The Revengencer Mk. III.V
>>42371942Orphan is nice. >>42371875We can use Lyle's credit card for this, right?
>>42371936Also accounting for structures on our other holdings, like Huron.
>>42371875Your mind stretches over the forested planet beneath your fleet, and you turn your attention to your forces that need new orders as the Clarke continues its slow approach under the guidance of the local traffic controller. You can feel the location of your drones, although their injuries are severe. You are unsure if they will survive, but you at least know their location.The forest is thick, and much of it is burning. Ships still fall from the skies occasionally, but the foliage seems resilient and fast growing. You should be able to scout most of the planet without much trouble now that the enemy forces have been removed.>Send forces to recover the Hive ship salvage>Send forces to search for the source of the mental signal first>Scour the planet, and have your drones search for remaining salvage and signs of activity.>Other
>>42372001>>Send forces to search for the source of the mental signal first
>>42372001>>Send forces to recover the Hive ship salvageBut pls let's let the Thinkers handle everything and turn our limited time to something else we've been neglecting.
>>42372001>Scour the planet, and have your drones search for remaining salvage and signs of activity.Overwhelming firepower and drones here. Send lots to cover both jobs.
>>42372001>Scour the planet, and have your drones search for remaining salvage and signs of activity.Slow and steady
>>42372001>Scour the planet, and have your drones search for remaining salvage and signs of activity.Just do both. There's no reason to do either first when we can do it simultaneously.
>>42372001>Scour the planet, and have your drones search for remaining salvage and signs of activity.
>>42372001>Send forces to recover the Hive ship salvageThis first. If we can project more forces then do all of it
>>42372001>>Send forces to search for the source of the mental signal first>>Scour the planet, and have your drones search for remaining salvage and signs of activity.Can we do both
>>42372001>>Scour the planet, and have your drones search for remaining salvage and signs of activity.
>>42372001>Send forces to recover the Hive ship salvage.>Send forces to search for the source of the mental signal first.Both of these because we have the numbers for it and,>Hunt for use full adaptations.
>>42372001>>Send forces to recover the Hive ship salvage
>>42372001>Scour the planet, and have your drones search for remaining salvage and signs of activity.Your thinkers set up search patterns and your corvettes begin to scan the surface as shuttles patrol the region. Several craft begin to encercle the Hive ship crash site, as well as others you see across the planet.As the arduous process of salvage and scouting commences, you turn your mind to other things. The traffic controller seems to be patient enough, but you feel it is best not to keep them waiting any longer. They did not specify that your identification had to be accurate, and from what you know of Valen, that means something.>Identify the ship as the Orphan>Other (write in)
>>42372094>>Identify the ship as the Orphan
>>42372094>Identify the ship as the Orphan
>>42372094>>Identify the ship as the Orphan>Other (write in)Ask Lyle what will they expect from us.
>>42372127 we already know intimately. You don't need to ask questions of somebody whose brain you already read.
>>42372094>>34376072>>Identify the ship as the Orphan"Man that ship looks like shit.""The Orphan... had a hard-knock life."
new plan for recovering the crystal from the humans. step one is sending a bunch of cloaked pods, step two is hiring Theseus to go and attack the union and try to convince the commonwealth that the crystal is to dangerous for organics to research, use Dr Emmerich's personal notes as proof that the thing is too dangerous in human hands even in containment.step three is to either send a "recovery fleet" to the location and try to claim the thing under threat of attack or have our speaker "receive" information from the ship that the commonwealth has an extremely dangerous item and that we will offer tech (something minor) for it to be given to us.
>42371875>thinker>reconnected to your mind.You didn't say which star system this is. We have a pod here already then?Not Librae though, since the whole point was to find the planet Deep Song, which wasn't there. Since that's a human system basically, not a valen bank.
>>42372094The 'captain' of the ship leans forward in his seat. He has done nothing overly productive the entire trip, as everything has been managed by your thinkers and the local Theseus instance."This is the Orphan requesting docking clearance.""Granted Orphan. Please stand by." The tower says, then after a short burst of ladar sensors scan your hull the voice adds, "Your ship's volume has been calculated and a berth will be configured shortly. Please disarm any warheads and ensure all hazardous or contraband materials remain secured and contained. Any outbreaks of contagions, natural, artificial, or weaponized will be dealt with severely and may result in confiscation of assets to cover damages incurred. Any exchange of materials banned under interstellar law must be made within your ship without utilizing our free or premium communication services: Addendum, we have a special offer on maintenance and repair services." It says. You're not sure if you should be insulted at that.You watch as several docking clamps run along a set of tracks, moving together until they make for a perfect fit for your ship, down to the meter."Configuration complete. All docking fees will be charged to your account upon your departure."The Theseus instance in your ship's computer core stirs for a moment."You're back, I see." He says. He sounds slightly different from when he was linked to the other versions aboard the satellite and Zero One. "You make better company then your children. If it's all the same, I'll take care of the docking procedures, if you'll pay for the dock.">Provide Lyle's account details>Claim you do not have an account with them>OtherAlso feel free to discuss a name for at least one of the clones.
>>42372175IT'S A HARD-KNOCK LIFEFOR US>Identify ship as "Orphan Annie"
>>42372266>Addendum, we have a special offer on maintenance and repair services." It says. You're not sure if you should be insulted at that.lel
>>42372266>>Provide Lyle's account details
>>42372266>Provide Lyle's account detailsLyle knows as well as we do that all of his assets are our assets. Besides, when he finds out what we're doing out here, he'll be disappointed he wasn't in on it.
>>42372266>>Claim you do not have an account with themFirst time customer offers time.Also you know we don't want a paper trail tying us to the most wanted mercenary in the galaxy
>>42372266>Claim you do not have an account with themTime to open an account
>>42372242Tipping waaaaay too many of our hands there.Relationship with Theseus, infiltration of the Union...
>>42372266>>Claim you do not have an account with them>>42372283>>42372290>wanting to put all your eggs in one basket>wanting to let them know this ship is related to Lyle in anywayWe need independent banking accounts for the hive. You can wire Lyle's money to the hive accounts later if you really want it.>>42372266>>Claim you do not have an account with them
>>42372266We really need to get our own credits before we use up all the money in Lyle's account, i suggest we manufacture black market weapons and devises.
>>42372266>>Claim you do not have an account with themMaybe we should come up with a cheeky name, Theseus based his name off of Greek Mythology so can our captains. Perseus maybe?
>>42372329If you want maximum cheeky, you can name him after famous figures in ancient Earth mythology, like Steve McQueen.
>>42372302When our ships arrive Theseus will pretend he doesn't know us and continues to try and convince them AND us into giving him the crystal, it's basically a three way argument on who deserve it most, then we either go with scenario 1. Theseus will give up on it when we show proof that we have sufficient containment procedure or 2. we have a diplomatic research project with all three factions.also Theseus will provide Dr Emmerich's personal notes, and everybody knows he already has successfully spied on the union before.
>>42372352Felix Kaufmann.TL Note: means 'happy merchant'
>>42372342>>42372345What about Jason? The Argonauts baby
>>42372352We need an industrial figure's name.
>>42372266>>Claim you do not have an account with them
>>42372415Let's pick some businessmen.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron_(industrialist)>James Fisk (finance) – New York
>>42372266As your ship moves in, you soak in the astrometric data of your ship's sensors.You are in the Lanway system, according to human maps. According to the local news broadcasts, it is known locally as Mephin, although even that is not necessarily its true name, but simply the pronunciation of the human dialect of the Valen trade language. In the native language, it would sound something like a porpoise wrestling with a bagpipe. Needless to say, Mephin is the more common pronunciation.The trade language itself is rather interesting. The exact opposite to the constructed hive language. It is an artificial code that utilizes a complex formula to translate every noise one species is capable of speaking into any noise any other species is able to speak. The result is a language that can facilitate much more articulate translations between aliens, and has since become even more widely used among the Valen then their own cultural languages.Your clone clears his throat."Uh, I don't have an account, actually." There is a short, quick buzz."An account has been made. Welcome to Deep Song bank and trust docking center! Your first purchase is at fifty percent discount. Please provide a name to assign the account number. This name is used for legal payment, and we are required by Union law to request your legal name. We are not required to check." The voice says. "Please note that by opening an account, you accept our terms of services, including repossession of assets, credits, or property in the event of default of funds. Deep Song bank and trust is not liable for any crimes committed before, after, or during your stay by or against our customers unless they otherwise violate our terms and conditions.">Name your clone captain (write in)some good ones already in the pipes, looks like.
>>42372469>Name your clone captainHugh Mann
>>42372469Perseuswe want this mother fucker to make it out alive
>>42372469John D. Spreckelshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron_(industrialist)he was in the sugar industry. Which we are very much in.
>>42372469>Hugh MannSeconding just for the laughs
>>42372469>requiring consensus on namegen to advanceYou utter fool.
>>42372469>>42372509Seconding this one for cheeky smartassness.
>>42372509This is too good, dunno if we know about this guy IC though.
>>42372469>Hugh Mann>John D. Spreckels>Other
>>42372509We need to save this name for later, we really need to save this name for later, its too good to use for this one time mission.
>>42372549>John Diedrich Spreckels
>>42372549>John D. Spreckels
>>42372549>>John D. Spreckels
>>42372556>one timeBut we're going to be using this account a lot if we want to get anything done.>>42372549>>John D. Spreckels
>>42372586The account will have no money in it unless you want to go the shady black market weapons dealer route.
>>42372613What about the shady sugar powered nuclear generator dealer route?
>>42372657>DAT SWEET, SWEET SUGAR SMELL
>>42372549>John Diedrich SpreckelsYour clone types in the name as the docking clams secure to the ship's hull and it pulls it in to the dock backwards, with the shield cap facing outwards. The dock itself slowly begins to move, catching up to the rotation of the station's habitation ring. An umbilical and a number of tubes quickly run to the hull, as well as several data cables. As they connect the entire system freezes for a moment, the screens flickering as if on the verge of failure."Sorry." Theseus says, and then a string of numbers are spat out on the screen."Your account has been created. If you wish to assign a biometric signature, pass word, or voice recognition you may do so until you undock from the station. Your ship will remain logged in for the duration of your stay." The voice says. "Your account balance is currently - Zero." It says flatly, then simply cuts off abruptly.Cont.
>>42372683>If you wish to assign a biometric signature, pass word, or voice recognitionWe can make other clones with same biosig and voice to access it, right?
>>42372707We might not want to make a biometric signature considering our good John is a Hybrid. Wouldn't want to raise any red flags.
>>42372707>John Diedrich SpreckelsA whole fleet of John Diedrich Spreckels Captains
>>42372750Oh right. Just a voice and a password then?
>>42372683 biometric signatureI can never see this as more than the shitty finger print bullshit themeparks do with yearly passes
>>42372707We could also just make a password no human could possibly memorize.>>42372780Biometric doesn't mean DNA. It could mean a lot of other things. Fingerprints, retinal scans. Take your pick.
>>42372683The password is "the black queen is a bitch hoe who needs sugar daddy void god to tell her she is prettier then all the other queens." or something lie that.
>>42372683>docking clamsthis is all the more hilarious considering its a valen station
Rolled 94, 50, 3 = 147 (3d100)>>42372683Your new ship, and your new alias is all well and good, and with it comes a number of advantages you will need to examine more closely, but for now, most of them seem to require credits. You open up the terminal at the computer, and it shows your account in all its meager grandeur. There are options for selling goods, unloading cargo, and free access to the local data net, although the access if extremely limited, offering only basic access to local shop information, and connections to a number of merchant exchange services.You quickly turn your attention to the system itself. The station is only a single part of a larger trade hub, connecting to an orbital tether that runs to the surface of the planet's shallow ocean. The planet is rather calm looking, covered in shallow water and filled with life, although not much of it is native. The locals have adjusted what was once a barren and frozen world into a moderately lush location, much like the humans have with their own colonies. Floating habitats can be seen glowing in the darkness of the planet's night side bellow, the lights shimmering beneath the hazy layers of artificial greenhouse gas that keeps the planet so warm. The rest of the system consists of a ring of asteroids further out, long ago reduced to dust by merchant mining on an industrial scale. The shipyards and mining platforms can still be seen from here, offering cheap repairs and refueling services, as well as several tiny colonies dug into the rocks, each little more then a mostly abandoned village.Even further out is the hypergate. A massive structure surrounded with ships of all sizes, from shuttles to interplanetary freighters, automated solar sailors, military craft, even a few surly looking ships covered in harsh weld marks and scrap plating that claim to be Taidaren vessels. The gate is covered in weapons, with even more weapons set up around it in a perimeter. It ocasionally flairs with radiation as a ship passes through.Cont.
>>42372859The typo is strategical, anybody overhearing it will instinctively fix it and will get locked out.
>>42372877Um yes, yes that is exactly what i was going for, it was totally intentional.
>>42372871>Rolled 94, 50, 3 = 147 (3d100)>unexplained rollingIs it, try and find blackmail material day already?
>>42372871..QD, what did you just roll for? What is that 94 and 3 going to do?
>>42372910>>42372927I REALLY hope it's Theseus hacking the station.
>>42372939>he got in without problems>it's full of Valen porn
>>42372984So long as it isn't all humanXvalen vore shit I'm sure we can salvage something worthwhile out of it.
>>42372871The star of the system itself is an old white dwarf, offering little radiance to anything much further out then Deep Song itself, and even here, the day side is hardly brighter then twilight.You turn back to the screen. The Valen trade language is a peculiar looking thing. Characters spin in spirals and loops, interlocked by curving lines and segments. The text is based off the dominant language script developed by the Valen even before they had invented spaceflight, a sort of Latin, in human terms. It seems only fitting for it to be used for their trade language dialect, although like sounds, it can be easily reconfigured to use the standard human text.There is a ping on the console."You're a winner!" It shouts. A projection of tropical trees and luxury cruise ships appear around the letter."Congratulations! [JOHN SPRECKELS] you've just won a ticket to floston paradise luxury resort! Your ticket includes a single plus-one, congratulations!"The recorded voice breaks down into a robotic monotone as it lists out a long and lengthy list of details and restrictions. The planet itself, from the information provided, seems to be in the Tuluu system, with travel expenses covered from any system with a hypergate."I can't access any bank systems, but the slot machine they have spitting these out was nothing." Theseus says in an almost boastful tone. You wonder if these are worth anything.>Use the tickets with two of your clones>Sell the tickets to the local market>Other
>>42373042>>Sell the tickets to the local marketAre we doing this right now... also kek
>>42373042Ahahaha it was him. He did roll high.>>Sell the tickets to the local market
>>42373042>>42373059THESEUS AND QUEENIE PARTNERS IN CRIME
>>42373042Do we have anything else for sale? If not, sell them.Also where the hell is Tuluu
>>42373073never a greater love story
>>42373073We need Theseus' computer head and the queen's head on an Ocean's 11 poster now
>>42373042>>Use the tickets with two of your clones
>>42373042>>Sell the tickets to the local market
>>42373042Well.It depends.If the other customers and vacationers at the resort are rich, it might be worthwhile to send clones with a suitcase full of parasites to adopt the other guests and embezzle their money.Or like. Adopt the staff, and have the staff adopt the other guests during their long, extra relaxing massage sessions.
>>42373042Do we actually have any sellable cargo on this ship?
>>42373042>>Sell the tickets to the local market.list the offers we get and then well vote if we keep them or not.
>>42373042>Use the tickets with two of your clones
>>42373118We kept talking about making some but for some reason QD never statted them out and put it to a vote, ever.Despite going on this mission now.
>>42373150>names not changed6/10
>>42373147Really wish we could have a retroactive vote, there were weeks of doing nothing that could be filled in.
>>42373150I really love this Quest sometimes.
>>42373147>>42373189Those orber-by-com couches of every customizable variety were a pretty good idea. So were custom pets and such, and the introduction of better reactors.Although I'm hesitant to try things that would reveal such obvious presence of high biotechnology, gotta weigh risks and all that.
>>42373042>Sell the tickets to the local marketYou quickly bring up the console again and navigate to the rather extensive merchant options. The station's computer begins collating the system's local market data, and it brings back a surprising number of offers. Apparently it is a rather popular resort for Union citizens. You look up the highest priced option. With all the various perks included in the ticket, including front row seats to what is claimed to be a well celebrated opera performance, the offered cost totals a relatively staggering seventy thousand credits. That should be more than enough for the docking fee, to say the least.>Accept and sell them for 70,000₡>Keep them for now>Other
>>42373237We've already offered the human ambassador to grow him new eyes, designer pets wouldn't reveal much new info.
>>42373255>Accept and sell them for 70,000₡
>>42373255>Accept and sell them for 70,000₡You looked up the price that the military bought the tickets from the radio station for, didn't you?
>>42373255>>Accept and sell them for 70,000₡
>>42373255>Accept and sell them for 70,000₡>>42373268What?
>>42373255>Accept and sell them for 70,000₡"Well, that solves our immediate concerns. I feel as though I'd been goaded into some kind of chance encounter and scoffed at the underlying proposal, though."
>>42373256Actually I'm almost certain that designer pets is several hundred levels of genetic fuckery above human eyes.Of course there are also business considerations, such as not making the pets immortal and ensuring they cannot be bred or replicated through extensive sterilization, there's also the market demographics to consider as far as what each species of the galaxy we can sell to (and further delineations among planets, colonies, and population centers) consider as appropriate pets, and how exactly to ensure they can get the best most companionable product they deserve.
>>42373255>>Accept and sell them for 70,000₡Perhaps we should get Theseus to give us rough price estimates for hive manufactured goods while we're brainstorming here.
>>42373298Picture perhaps engineering an animal designed to have the most delicious flesh, for example, tailor made to specific palates...
>>42373299No.We aren't gonna produce anything that is new, novel, and attention grabbing.These are our nominally-human agents with nominally-human means. What they should sell is Tempest matter-energy-shielding knockoffs ("Pesttem" brand, maybe) and fusion reactors built to human specifications.>>40757729>>37790225>>35935739>Tempest matter-energy shielding: 250,000₡>Premium Used fusion reactors: starting at 300,000₡Those products alone are quite lucrative.
>>42373322>>42373321>>42373298We can do slightly different angle on "designer pets": make something cute, cuddly and useful and present it as animals from the expanse. (Like we did Taidarens)
>>42373298Rioght.So we just compile lists of various creatures already considered as pets, acquire them for cloning purposes, and move on from there.Propaganda videos on how they're raised and treated to make people think its not cruel are probably a must. Still not sure about selling premium pets but, y'know, money is money I guess.>>42373321Man I would be surprised if that market wasn't already filled with extreme competition. But I like the idea and I like the idea even more when I imagine how they'll react to finding out their meat is more alien-er than they could have thought possible.
>>42373322>>42373350>whynotboth.jpgDiversify and conquer! It's what google is doing so so can we!
>>42373298To alleviate your concerns, we could design a few sort of "lowest common denominator" creatures and market them as exotic pets we've come across on our homeworld/in our travels rather than designed ones.
>>42373360>whynotbothBecause it draws unwanted attention instead of blending into an existing market.
>knockoff technology>exotic pet acquisitionsGIT DOSH
>>42373322Who said anything about new or novel? We are perfectly capable of building mechanical objects that require no nutritional upkeep, like the shielding and generators you mentioned. I'm saying we should get Theseus' input on what things we can successfully sell discreetly through the Valen merchants, and for how much.
>>42373376>go to market>search for people wanting some exotic pets>find a sample of an in demand pet species>clone and modify to specifications>DOSH
>>42373373Man, the economy really changed in the future.
>>42373370Fine. Have it your way. No cute off-worldy catmoth spies for the commonwealth.Also, captcha thinks Ships are Boats.
>>42373376GRAB IT WHILE CAN LADShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op-LBp4sH7w
>>42373388Because we already know how much they cost, the market pricing is right fucking there. You'd be asking him about something right in front of your eyes which makes you look kinda dumb.
>>42373255>Accept.You sell the tickets, and the credits are added to your account. As you close the market options, you suddenly are assaulted by a wall of advertisements, most of them for local ship dealers and ship repair services.You still have much to do here, and after peeking back at your drones as they scout the forested world in the Refuge system and find a half dozen corvettes struggling to tow the hive ship wreckage out of the smoldering mud, and several sniffers being harassed by what looks like some kind of feathered six legged orangutan, you figure you have plenty of time before they have anything interesting to report.You look through the stations options. Selling goods would be rather simple, relatively speaking. According to the bank's policies, all products are off loaded to their own storage facility and held under contract until they sell it to a buyer. According to their terms, neither the seller nor the buyer ever know each other, although sellers have the option of signing a "brand" contract for advertising and legal purposes, although beyond a separate corporate account connected to the brand itself, there isn't much involved, although it does require signing a deal with a local official.>Negotiate a brand contract with the Valen bank with which to sell hive made goods>Attempt to sell cheap knock-off versions of brand name goods anonymously>Other (write in)>>42373352Isn't that the plot of the second Ratchet & Clank game?
>>42373390I hope they don't consider cloning a legitimate market issue. Good thing our modification can make them just different enough..
>>42373390Time for Mantis Shrimp! QD said that some of those, among other animals, where taken off-world before the battle for Earth for aquariums and rich people pets.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5FEj9U-CJM
>>42373410>>Attempt to sell cheap knock-off versions of brand name goods anonymouslyDefinitely.
>>42373402But we can produce military grade shielding, much better than a tempest brand shield. Theseus can give us a rough idea of how much stuff like that would go for without us having to reveal our hand to any shifty jew whales. I mean, he's the most complex social calculator ever made, I'm sure he can do rough appraisals for us.
>>42373410>Negotiate a brand contract with the Valen bank with which to sell hive made goods.>Attempt to sell cheap knock-off versions of brand name goods anonymously.both, sell knock-off versions and only allow trusted buyers to buy the good shit.
>>42373410>>Attempt to sell cheap knock-off versions of brand name goods anonymously>Other (write in)Find out how illegal/difficult it is to buy a quantum scrambler warhead for reverse engineering.We might want to buy it with Lyle's account though, unrelated to what we're doing here.
>>42373410>>Negotiate a brand contract with the Valen bank with which to sell hive made goods
>>42373410>>Attempt to sell cheap knock-off versions of brand name goods anonymously
>>42373410>>Attempt to sell cheap knock-off versions of brand name goods anonymouslyWe can upgrade to a fancy account later. Coming I. With "only" 70,000 credits for a business account raises questions.
>>42373438Now that's clever, we should do this.
>>42373410I'll second this >>42373438
>>42373410>>Attempt to sell cheap knock-off versions of brand name goods anonymouslyI'm not ready for that level of commitment.And the Valen notoriously flipflop on anonymity as soon as they're bribed or pressured hard enough. So an additional hurdle to someone looking into things is nice.
>>42373438>trusted buyers>neither the seller nor the buyer ever know each other>trustedAre you trying to test how many anons in this quest are completely retarded?
>>42373503Hey, it only got two! That's good, right?
Already voted, but if we go corporate can we call ourselves "mom-co" or "mother's good old-fashioned pet store". Would be pretty in keeping with our level of cheek.
>>42373503There are such things as degrees of trust.
>>42373546That sure is a bunch of words saying nothing.You are literally never allowed to even know anything about them. It is an anonymized marketplace. That is the entire point. If you know anything about your buyers, the system broke.And if you did, somehow, inexplicably, know your buyers, you don't even use the anonymizing market as a middleman, and your corporate account is completely pointless because you don't need to pay market fees to use it to sell to them.
>>42373503Trusted=repeat buyers, people we can trust based on what they buy, how they use it and how desperate they are to get it, also.>implying we wont have security measures consisting of FUTURE proxy, self destruct methods and assassinating anyone who even THINKS to sell us out.well be the deep web INSIDE the deep web.
>>42373546>>42373561Time to get recycled.
>>42373561But we do not know the buyers from the regular market, that's IT'S WHOLE FUCKING POINT!
>>42373559This. At that point you may as well sell on an open market to all the upstanding individuals and middleman retailers you can, because anonymity is the god damned point.
I need to hit the hay, just a quick reminder to vote on this >>42371936 before the thread is over. Thanks for running QD, see you next time.
>>42373410>Attempt to sell cheap knock-off versions of brand name goods anonymouslyYou wonder just how good your products are when looked at from a human perspective. The idea of making a ship component that can't tell you how it is functioning is rather strange to you, but then again, so is the concept of paid labor.You check your cargo bay. There is a meager amount. Just enough to hopefully get your proverbial foot in the door. The prices you find in the market are all mostly established brands from large Union corporations, although you do see various off-brand and custom made materials, however their prices don't seem to be all that connected to their brand name versions all that much, other then the fact that they are cheaper.>Sell several crates of off-brand holo-projectors>Sell several tonnes of nutrient paste as a sandwich spread>Sell several "custom made" fusion reactors>Sell a matrix worth of "reconfigured" energy shielding>Other (write in)
>>42373590Night anon, sleep well in knowledge you did many good things for mother.
>>42373592>>Sell several "custom made" fusion reactors
>>42373592>>Sell several crates of off-brand holo-projectors>>Sell a matrix worth of "reconfigured" energy shieldingWhat kind of unit is a matrix? What portion of a corvette does it correspond to?
>>42373592>>Sell several "custom made" fusion reactors>>Sell a matrix worth of "reconfigured" energy shieldingThe value of the hive lies in it's capacity to churn out high tech items without production cost. Go for those ones.
>>42373592>>Sell several crates of off-brand holo-projectors>Sell several tonnes of nutrient paste as a sandwich spread>Sell several "custom made" fusion reactors
>>42373592>Sell several "custom made" fusion reactors>Sell a matrix worth of "reconfigured" energy shielding
>>42373602A matrix is just all the projectors needed to totally cover a ship. It's essentially one complete system.All of the options are roughly comparable in volume.
>>42373592>>Sell several crates of off-brand holo-projectors>>Sell several tonnes of nutrient paste as a sandwich spread>>Sell several "custom made" fusion reactors>>Sell a matrix worth of "reconfigured" energy shieldingSell all things for mother!(Is there any real reason not to sell certain items?)
>>42373592>>Sell several "custom made" fusion reactors>>Sell a matrix worth of "reconfigured" energy shielding
>>42373631Well I'm dubious about just selling standard hive nutrient paste.That's our unique sugar smell like Mother used to make.
>>42373592>Sell several crates of off-brand holo-projectors>Sell several "custom made" fusion reactors>Sell a matrix worth of "reconfigured" energy shielding
>>42373592>>Sell several "custom made" fusion reactorsAbout shields, I though we and scavengers were only ones with it, atleast while shielding ships, would it be unwise to sell this away?
>>42373631>(Is there any real reason not to sell certain items?)Well, businessvalens with a lot of pointed questions on where we get our goods and how come we aren't making a deal with them, for one. We could also be muscling in on some other Valen's business.
>>42373658we're not selling those kinds of shields.Just the kind we copied from humans.
>>42373663Gent, we are selling them on anonymous ebay. They'd only possibly figure out whom to ask questions if they decide to spring a whole fucking lot of bribery and favours.
>>42373592>Sell several crates of off-brand holo-projectors>Sell several "custom made" fusion reactors
>>42373573thread 44>Predictive combat algorithms>Your drones are always watching the enemy, either in person or through your network, and the hive grows more accustomed to certain quirks and common tactics employed by specific species or individuals. With the powerful calculations made possible by fractal based crystal brains, your drones, and clones with either psionic capabilities or hybrid or chimera types will be able to predict the vast number of variables in any single fight, allowing it to know what the enemy will do in the heat of the moment and act accordingly. Grants a bonus to combat rolls against known and researched enemies.this will allow us to predict who is trustworthy and who is not based on certain quirks like frequent buyers, buying in bulk and how much money they spend. Combine that with a cloaked pod where they deliver the items, tracers in our merchandise and Theseus and my idea for better deals for trusted buyers seems pretty plausible.
Oh and if we are ever going to start selling more of nutrient paste we just must have brand for it, I bet humans would love to eat that stuff.>Hive paste, tested on human prisoners of the war.
>>42373592>Sell several "custom made" fusion reactorsThe option of selling reactors is a tad risky, if only because people tend to be stingy about where they get a nuclear fusion core. Still, they tend to be costly. You've already seen several ships owned by taidaren crew, and they hardly look space worthy. At the very least, they may be interested. You punch in the order, and several cargo loaders move from the side of the docking clams through the loading bay to the ship's cargo pod. It quickly makes a vacuum seal on the container's airlock and begins taking out the crates. Each one should fetch a rather decent price, although you suspect you will need to undercut the current sellers. Your thinkers seem well suited to managing such things, and even then it looks like the station will take care of most of the logistics.You receive another ping from the station's computer."Your current commodity is listed as potentially hazardous. If you are a licensed dealer in Union space, please provide your product credentials. If not, your goods must first be inspected by our local mechanics, or negotiations with our local engineering representative." It says. "Failure to reply with a request for an appointment with our representative or Union licences will result in your automatic acceptance of our inspectors' findings. Any product that does not pass our quality control must be reloaded within one business day, or be subject to ejection from the most conveniently located airlock."Well, they certainly take cargo space seriously here. While you're sure the cores work fine, you're less sure if they look fine.>Make an appointment with the locals>Allow the inspection and hope for the best>Other>>42373631Space, mostly. As your first run you only have a moderate amount in your hold. Now that you have things set up you can just start selling goods and let your thinkers manage the shipping details.
>>42373804>>Make an appointment with the locals
>>42373804>>Make an appointment with the localsSo either bribe them or somehow parasite them.
>>42373804how do our reactors look? and wasn't there something urgent we had to talk to Theseus about in the last thread which we seem to have forgotten?
>>42373804>Make an appointment with the locals
>>42373804>>Make an appointment with the localsIf parasiting and cajoling don't work, we can always take some money from Lyle's account to bribe them.
>>42373804>>Make an appointment with the localsdae locals thoAnd hey, I wonder if they'll come investigate the goods onboard the ship, in person, or off the ship, in a robot, and how bio-compatible with a drone on their spine they'd be.Maybe next trip.
we should talk to Theseus about getting the dna of that species that the union are using to mine moons for some rare material i can't remember the name of but since it's rare it will be good to be able to get it + that fire resistanceand i just kinda want to check in on him it feels like it has been forever and i kinda miss him
>>42373942not moons, suns
>>42373952not suns, starCalderon, wasn't it
>>42373942They probably aren't DNA based life, but we may be able to obtain a biological sample.
>>42373942I know that feel. It's like ever since we introduced him to Heretic we never hang out with him anymore.Also if you want to find heat resistant life forms, I recommend we send a scouting team to the sunny side of Corbin.
>>42373942and why do y'all faggots always ignore me when i bring this up, it's like you don't want to colonize stars and that's pretty fucken gay imo
>>42373975They're made of protein chains, sayth QD.>>42373969>>42373952>>42373942Canderon.
>>42373804>Make an appointment with the localsYour clone lets out a sigh as he punches in the data. There is a light buzzing sound and several piles of data are spat out by the computer with directions to the office of their local official. The first appointment available is actually in just a few hours. He punches it in and exits his seat and heads to the umbilical. An elevator sits in the docking clamp leading into the station's ring.The station's structure is rather odd. The "visitor" section is a collection of rings connected to docking clamps along the outside rim. Windows are spaced along the edges of the floor, allowing you to see out to the traffic bellow, and along the walls, where you can see the adjacent ring and the "native" section, which looks like a giant water tank with airlocks set along the rim. The valen ships are tremendous in size, larger then one would first think would be required. With so much extra space needed for each crew member, you end up needing a lot more space for thrusters as well, and then more space for propellant. Most of the ships you see are the size of capitals, with only the smallest being cruiser sized transports.cont.>>42373824They look like one of those cheap mass produced t-shirts from brazil with a red batman on the front with a superman symbol and "Rob-cop" written across it. To put it quite frankly. It works just fine, and if you know what to look for it's actually a rather high quality rector, but at first glance it looks really off-putting.If you've ever worked with metal products, it's similar to the difference between a raw weld job and one that's been bead-blasted.Also, do you mean the Path smuggling route? It's still the same day, so he's still working that out.
>>42374001While he's working on Path angles, can he slip >>42370825 into some anti-establishment groups propaganda and stuff? Gotta get that trolling on.
>>42374097We reaaallly should mention this to Theseus.
>>42374097I'd be down with this, although Theseus probably has better connections to actually get shit done than we have.
>>42374001Your clone looks over the various station services and amenities. The station offers a large number of bars, restaurants, clubs, and small shops and vending machines line the halls with food and drinks of all kinds. There are a variety of weapon shops, and even a gun range advertising a "try before you buy" policy, which proudly marks itself as the only place on the station where you can fire a weapon without being finned. There is even a pool, although that's not all that surprising, given the owners of the station.The halls are spacious, but still not large enough for the valen themselves. There are canals and small tram lines running along the interior of the rings marked on various public maps listed for native use, while the central hub of the station is listed as restricted to station administration only, with only small sections used for transit between rings available to the public.The elevator is on the far side of the station from the native district, and it runs to a floating platform set along the shallow sea of Deep Song. You can see the rapidly flowing lights of the elevator running to and from the surface, mostly freight. Food and processed materials.Your clone passes people of all sorts and species. Mechanical androids shuffle along the halls with their heads trailing cables into the ceiling, each with a name plate of some valen individual. Ceph are a common sight, either floating by in small groups of white skinned refugees or being carried on small trolleys where they sit like blobs of gelatin gurgling softly. Taidaren shuffle beneath your feet, and as you pass a noodle bar you can feel one of them pick your pocket. You can hear them grumble in the distance over your clone's lack of possessions.Humans are a surprisingly large segment of the population. Gruff looking smugglers carry crates of cigars, holo-projectors, whisky, even more potent narcotics sit in open crates as captains and ship commanders negotiate prices.cont.
>>42374150>Taidaren shuffle beneath your feet, and as you pass a noodle bar you can feel one of them pick your pocket. You can hear them grumble in the distance over your clone's lack of possessions.hah
desire to know more intensifies
>>42374150Weapon racks, crates of ammunition, and suspiciously advanced looking computer systems all mark the loading bays of various ships docked to the ring where traders negotiate with valen puppets, corporate representatives, shady smugglers, and even the occasional recognized Commonwealth merchant, with one rather gaudy looking ship emblazoned with eagles and gold trim marking it as a part of some planetary royal family's personal merchant fleet. Several auto loaders navigate themselves to the loading bay with crates of what look like cigars and vodka.Lining the bars and restaurants, mercenaries discuss war stories and show off various scars and wounds, while others arm wrestle or bet over potentially dangerous competitions as if strutting about for the attention of potential employers. Lyle has many memories of such locations. He fractured a jaw in one of these bars, and broke three ribs in another. None of them were his.You still have a short amount of time before your arranged meeting with the local official. >Examine the local businesses for something in particular (write in)>Look over the mercenaries for hire>Go directly to the valen official>Attempt to find your own buyer for the reactors directly>OtherYou can tell why Lyle chose to do buisness with them
>>42374245>Examine the local businesses for something in particular (exotic animals)
>>42374245>Attempt to find your own buyer for the reactors directly
>>42374254I like this idea
>>42374245>>Attempt to find your own buyer for the reactors directly
>>42374245>Examine the local businesses for something in particular (exotic animals)Please roll 1d100, best of 3.Equal parts searching for shops that aren't scams and for random chance of current inventories.
>>42374245>>Attempt to find your own buyer for the reactors directlyExotic pets are chump change compared to nuclear generators, no matter how easily you think we can make them.
Rolled 72 (1d100)>>42374300
Rolled 12 (1d100)>>42374300This should be interesting.
Rolled 83 (1d100)>>42374300
Rolled 64 (1d100)>>42374300
>>42374254Supporting this.I rather make a deal with valen official, so we don't have to find buyers everytime we try to sell reactors.
>>42373995We need to get a hold of it either way, would we be able to make hive creep that can grow on stars and convert the heat to electricity that we use to power an electromagnet to boost the growt rate of that one first crop, sorry for the shitty spelling btw
>>42374428Solar powered hive creep that use the sun against itself until it is completely covered then starts growing outwards into a thick crust fiöled with countless tunnels
>>42374454And that's how we dyson sphere.
>>42374454The sun within could be used to power massive weapons and if we find a good enough isolator we could have the outside of the crust be earth temp and with the massive size we could terraform the outside of the crust
>>42374473>>42374481we are good thinkers for mother
> even more potent narcotics sit in open crates as captains and ship commanders negotiate prices.Maybe we should buy variety sampler of those.>The elevator is on the far side of the station from the native district, and it runs to a floating platform set along the shallow sea of Deep Song.We really should slip some aquatic sniffers down onto the surface when we can. do visitors ever go down to the ocean?
>>42374300Your clone quickly searches through the collection of goods and smuggled items, and runs a number of searches through the station's computer. You find a number of shops dealing in 'pets', which is a term you immediately take with a tremendous amount of salt. When you arrive, you are still surprised at the false advertising.Razor trout are held in a number of shops, although you don't find many that offer them not on a plate, and their costs are quite exuberant. There is a single wickerfish for sale, and its price periodically flashes as merchants actively bid on it. The price has already reached seventeen thousand credits and it continues to increase. The various marine animals are set on a display in the room of the larger of the shops, offering a list of inventory. Bellow is a series of cages and pens where you hear various howls and roars. The tops are made of transparasteel set in the floor of the shop itself, allowing buyers to look down on the strange creatures.You find a number of shade hounds that sit in a bundle of chewed blankets. It looks up sharply at your clone as you approach and lets out a sharp hiss, revealing a pile of bones and shells beneath its claws."Ah, you recognize it, I see." You hear someone say. The shop owner, a darkly tanned human with a long strip of cloth wrapped around his head and a poorly fitting jumpsuit stands next to your clone. You're note entirely sure when he got there."The shade hound makes a good pet." He says. "They need discipline, but are loyal. If you have them defanged they are a good choice if you want something more then a guard dog, but still want to have neighbors.""And what if I don't want neighbors?" Your clone asks. The man smiles, his teeth flashing with specks of metal.cont.>>42374489Well, you can, but it's like visiting Detroit. You're either on your way to somewhere else, or you have business or family there. It's essentially a logistical facility with freighter docks and warehouses.
>>42374481We could literally devouver stars by building a planet around them and we wouödn't even have to spend resources outover the ones we use to develope the hive creep
i feel like people are underestimating--well, that's not the right wordI dunno what word I'm looking forpoint is, the sun, or really any star, is really fucking biglike, unimaginably big, namely because people just have no frame of reference for that except going by concept. people understand that the sun is huge, many many many times bigger than the earth, and yet people have a hard time conceptualizing the universe beyond where they live, much less an area that spans farther than a couple miles in any directionit would take longer than this quest will have turns or days for that dyson sphere to complete itself, or maybe even give noticeable returns
>suspiciously advanced looking computer systemsMore deliriously illegal AI.>>42374428They're a form of life so alien they may as well be silicon-based. Odds are the hive's bioengineering doesn't even apply.Though you can test that by sending a Pod with drones down into the ocean of Coral to try and see what the hive actually can do with entirely alien, silicon based life.
>>42374481That would be most likely tge largest planet ever made.And imagine what that would look like to an alien astronomer: an entire star slowly dimming until it went completely dark
>>42374481I think it would be better to make the Dyson sphere in the habitable zone, and terraform the inside of the sphere.
>>42374516>action packed trip to Detroit>in space!Well I'm sold.
>>42374525Well, artificial tech never stopped the Hive from adapting biological equivalents, so I doubt something being silicon-based instead of carbon-based will stop us much. Best case, we just translate the silicon biology into carbon biolology.
>>42374562Or we just, y'know, learn How to into Silicon Biology.For fuck's sake man, the Hive can use MEAT to create PHOTONIC MICROSTRUCTURES, being bound by a carbon / silicon divide is fucking nothing.
>>42374562True that, especially considering we've already developed/have the ability to develop crystal tech.
>>42374523This. Dyson sphere ain't happening in our lifetime, ageless or not. That's not to say we couldn't work on someyhing like heaving great solar creep farms or the like.
>>42374523False, the star would super power the hive creep making it grow faster and faster the more area it covers, we just have to make them solar powered and even if we didn't cover it completely we would have an enourmous energy soource
>>42374516>You find a number of shade hounds that sit in a bundle of chewed blankets.Yesss.Guys we have to at least get a sample of the venom , if not one of these guys' bodies.We want to have devised an antidote and immunity to it before we take on Coco.
>>42374523I strongly disagree. Using the right techniques, it wouldn't take very long at all to cover a star with a dyson sphere, and I think our hive is especially equipped to do it.First, we would need to make an ungodly number of orbital solar arrays. Like several million, or billion. Like, a metric shit ton.Then we would need to place them across the sun at the distance we want to make the dyson sphere, all equally spaced apart from each other.Then we would need to tether all the orbital solar arrays together, Each one tethered to only it's nearest neighbors, creating a large web across the surface of the star.Finally, fill in all the empty spaces in the web with creep, from the entire perimeter in. This way, it would only take as much time to cover the entire star in creep as it would take to fill in one of these holes, astronomically cutting down on the time the process takes.If we could figure out a way to make the solar orbital arrays reproduce in space without us having to build them, outfit them all with resource teleporters, mine the mantle of a planet in the system we're taking over, we could make the entire process automated by having the solar arrays make their closest neighbors, quickly covering the entire star.
>>42374671Energy from the sun alone would not be enough to allow the creep to exponentially grow to its full potential. The creep, no matter how much energy it takes in, will very likely not be able to turn nothing (energy alone) into something. In quest terms, the sun would provide plenty of nutrients, but the creep would need raw materials, like metal, to grow. Harvesting those raw materials is a constrained activity that cannot passively grow the way a hive creep can. I don't think a dyson sphere is possible in our lifetime unless we have some major technological changes (possibly something with teleportation could work).
>>42374736>(possibly something with teleportationAnon...Also goddamn popcorn and peanuts captchas.
>>42374736You're forgetting about our mantle excavation, son. And the fact that we actually do have teleportation of raw resources.
>>42374736Anon we already teleport shit.
>>42374720Can we ask the shop owner for corpses? I'm not comfortable buying an animal that falls under the category of 'pet' just to kill it for upgrades.
>>42374774Are we eventually going to start teleporting planets from other dimensions to sustain our expansion?
>>42374767So we could completely mine out all the planets in the system we're taking, giving us way more than enough metal to take a planet.
>>42374778I'm sure we can throw it in a medtank examine it in completion and then give it to Lee as a present
>>42374789There's always other galaxies anon.
>>42374767Nah, I remember we have teleportation. But a star is so massive even if we mine a planet to the core and teleport resources out we probably wouldn't have enough resources to build a creep that size. On the other hand, if we can somehow teleport the raw hydrogen from inside a star (or perhaps even heavy metals), or devise some other massively efficient way of harvesting molecular compounds, then it might be possible to cover the huge distances involved. I'm not saying its impossible; it's just a major undertaking that may not be the best use of our resources at this time.
>>42374767>>42374774The problem with teleportation as it currently exists is that at most it allows for the transport of small amounts of mechanically sophisticated material. What you're talking about is on the magnitude of several solar systems worth of raw materials just to cover a SMALL star.
>>42374726The essential problem here is opportunity cost. For the cost of those solar collector arrays, what else could we build?Guys, a solar collector array costs (5,000N 5,000M)A battleship costs (4500N, 10000M)For the cost of a BILLION solar collection arrays, we could build 500,000,000 battleships. Given our war and risk of destruction by either the Obsidian Queen or Void Shards, one of these makes much more sense to build than the other...
>>42374811>>42374846we could at least start the project up and see where our constantly advancing tech and biology takes us
>>42374811This part of the argument (how much resources it would take) can only be settled by QD. I personally think mining out all the planets cores would give us more than enough metal for this project, but I could see how you could disagree. It all depends on exactly what ratio of metals to nutrients is required for the creep to spread.
>>42374877Still too damn costly. We don't even have a means of landing on the surface of a star at present.It's a wiser investment to set a thinker on a small planetoid and tell it to turn it into a hivestar. One thinker, combined with an egglayer can build enough nuclear powered electroponic farms and deep mantle excavation units to turn an entire stellar body into a fortress/ship. This is possible right now with our current technology.
You guys are forgetting that we have nutrient to metal conversion. Once we get this started, we could grow the metal to make the creep from the solar orbital arrays. >>42374875a solar collector array collects 400 nutrients a day. we can grow 1 metal from 2 nutrients. If we had a billion solar collection arrays, we could produce either 400 billion nutrients a day, or 200 billion metal a day.
>>42374919I'd second this. Very low cost for possible benefits. Hell, I could go with sending out several thinkers and egglayers on a project like this, we're easily rich enough.
>>42374516"I think I have some things you may like, then." He says. He leads you over to several of the pens near the back. He points to the first. "Now this one's a bit high maintenance, but good for home security!" He says. "The Copperback's not for most, but this one's a good find, I tell you!"There is a large copper colored stone in the pen, roughly four feet high and twice the diameter. It sits motionless on the floor. The walls are covered in a thick mucus, and empty shells and bones surround it in thick piles."Many people think it's from Coral, but it's actually native to Arnim. People assume because the movies, and their shell." He continues, his teeth glittering with flecks of gold as he speaks. "They eat rocks to build it up, but their diet is strictly meat." He says, then takes out a control and hits several buttons. A moment later a small puffy ball rolls down a chute and bounces off the rock with a high pitched squeak. It begins shaking as it runs along the floor around the rock.The large chunk of ore promptly sprouts several legs, and erupts from its sitting position. The small ball of fluff quickly darts in random directions as the spider-like creature shimmies from side to side, and then a long spear-like tendril erupts from its mouth, impaling the fluff ball and dragging it into its maw in one swift motion. It slowly settles itself back into its position and folds its legs beneath its body. The man is smiling expectantly as he tries to gauge your clone's reaction.cont.
>>42375004I like it!
>>42375004Oooh, nice camo. I think we'll take it!
>>42375004>A moment later a small puffy ball rolls down a chute and bounces off the rock with a high pitched squeak. It begins shaking as it runs along the floor around the rock.I want this one too. I'm a sucker for small fluffy squeaky things, this could totally be used as a template for a handheld speaker.
>>42375004Horrifying. I'm enthralled. How do you stop it from eating the homeowner?What? That's not a thing you can do?Oh.
>>42374919>Still too damn costly.No, see, the thing is, once we have the potential to land on the surface of a star and use it to produce resources, it'll probably be like a more powerful version of solar collector arrays.And we could just go ahead and start using them to produce our stuff.Of course, covering it whole is immensely huge and a project that is unlikely to complete in the quest's lifetime, but the upside is that it means we will be able to build resource collectors to our heart's content on a single star and not run into area limits.
>>42375004Sold! I'll take two if you've got that many. Now what else ya got?
>>42375004https://m.ask.fm/QuestDrone/answers/130578858021> On these mandibles is a set of fangs filled with a potent venom that causes paralysis.I think we can be thrifty and just get the sample of the most important part, the venom, by inducing one of the shadehounds to bite us, or one of our spare crewmembers since this guy has a meeting to get to.It's not fatal.
>>42374919>>42374942it's going to start paying for itself eventually and we could just keep the expansion automated when it gets to that
>>42375094We're an interstellar empire with thousands of ships and extremely low production costs. We are soon to become one of the wealthiest factions in the setting, we're already one of the more powerful. We can be thrifty sure, but with a bite they may take us to the medical center on the station which we don't want. Just buy one (we can afford it), and if we can't "afford" it just ambush and parasite the pets guy. He probably doesn't have major security beyond his pets anyway.
>>42374942>a solar collector array collects 400 nutrients a day. we can grow 1 metal from 2 nutrients. If we had a billion solar collection arrays, we could produce either 400 billion nutrients a day, or 200 billion metal a day.I kinda count the collectors incredibly inefficient. With the conversion, it'd pay for itself after producing 15k nutrients, that's ~38 days.Other nutrient generators are much faster.
I just realized. In the 24 hours that we "study and prepare" for Wise's surgery (cocooning warriors into bio-tanks), we can treat the medical lab down the hall like a buffet.We can taste test all the various chemicals and drugs they keep there. Speaker can just drink em and the Thinkers analyze them.
>>42375004"Now, if you're looking for something maybe a bit more active, I have something else for you maybe." He says as he quickly leads your clone over to the next pen over. Inside is a large green and blue creature with large, shimmering scales like that of a fish, and a long mane of thick, wiry hair. It has four legs, and another pair of small arms folded between its front legs, beneath the jaw, which end in a set of claws."This one is interesting. The Grek." The salesman says. "You know, there are some who think they were once intelligent, but lost their minds somehow. Never got past the stone age. They made a few spears and a couple of cave paintings and thought 'eh, it's not for me.' Now they are a deadly hunter. Swift of foot, clever, and very obedient, so long as you feed it on time." He pulls out his controller and clicks a button and shouts something in the trade language. It's head snaps to attention. He barks out several more orders and the Grek inflates its chin, its mouth briefly glowing, and then belches a large ball of flame into the air, scorching the wall across from it. The man clicks another button and a large raw slab of meat drops into the pen. It quickly flash-roasts it with a puff of fire and rips into it, its pincer forearms shredding the meat and shoveling it into its mouth."Eh?" The man asks. "When was the last time your pet shot fire?" Your clone looks over the pens blandly. His teeth flash a bit of gold as his smile fades for a moment and he lets out the slightest stammer."If these do not impress, there is one more, but..." he twists his hands slowly. "It's not exactly something most people can manage."He points to the back, where there is a reinforced metal door. He motions for your clone to follow as he walks over to it and punches a number into the keypad beside it, and the door slides open.Cont.
>>42375159Nice, this should be good. Also>>"When was the last time your pet shot fire?"Oh, about 5 minutes ago when we were shooting plasma all over the inside of a hive ship.
>>42375138..Actually they are 1000 nutrients a day now that I check the lists instead of trusting another poster, but still, 15 days is how many threads?Meanwhile, two harvester docks match the output and cost FIFTY times less.
>>42375159That's a fucking space dragon. Holy crap.
What if we started making hybrids of drones and various common pet types? That'd be fun.
>>42375138>Pays for itself in 38 days.>Inefficient.I think every other species would be all over that. It's not instantaneous like a farm, but it's still in the short term.If we build a space station later, I say put some on it.
>>42375190That is inefficient and slow as shit on the timescales of the Hive and other sources we have. See >>42375178And in space we also have orbital electrophonic stations. They require a gas giant, but dish out 500N per day for 1000M cost, as opposed to 5kM+5kN of solar power.
>>42375224Fine. We only build them if there's a timeskip or something like that.
>>42375241we cans tart building them now and put a lot of more resources into it when we timeskip, cause i think that we will sooner or later and i hope QD isn't planning on killing off the quest anytime soon
>>42375260I don't think we'll have a time skip anytime soon. We're still growing at an exponential rate and have not needed to do a significant time skip before now. Things are happening and it's not like there's nothing to do. For now let's stick with the cheap, efficient, option.
>>42375241Nah. Still.We can throw 10 million in combined resources into solar collectors to increase Leeland system's nutrient output by 10% (in flat numbers, +1 million nutrients/day). We do have that much spare, so we actually can, yes.But we can throw that 5 million metal into building space stations around any given gas giants, and get 2.5 million nutrients/day instead.
somehow this merchant reminds me of Tosh.
>>42375159>He points to the back, where there is a reinforced metal door. He motions for your clone to follow as he walks over to it and punches a number into the keypad beside it, and the door slides open.Oh yes, they always keep the good shit behind the reinforced doors. Sell this one to us, pet seller!
>>42375306Tosh from where?
Do you think we could develop tech to mine hydrogen, helium, and heavy metals from stars?
>>42375159>>42375308No need to even show what it is, just say the price we take it!
>>42375328everything is possible with magic~
>>42375305And honestly, with hive city research underway, we can still have some really cool tech around the gas giants. Maybe something like Bespin City (although it would be hive, and therefore much more efficient).
>>42375324Star Craft 2
>>42375224Absolutely. No matter what way you cut it, those electroponic stations are a far more efficient return for the resources required to construct them. The only limitation is finding a gas giant to support them, but we've barely touched the gas giants in our territory so far.
>>42375342Bespin city is just a fairly large collection of electroponic stations in hive terms, and we've got 2,000 of them on the way. Once QD get's a chance to crunch the numbers, we'll have a Bespin City of our own.
>>42375377Yep, that's exactly what I was saying.
>>42375377>Bespin Citywhat's that?
>>42375429Have you never watched Star Wars? It's the "cloud city" from the Empire Strikes Back.
>>42375442ah, haven't watched it for many years and i'm a bit senile
>>42375429Cloud city in star wars episode 5.
>>42375159Most of the chamber is simply an office. crowded papers cover a desk, and small cages filled with the multi-colored fluff balls line the far side of the room. Near the back is a large balcony set over a reinforced cargo container. It is covered in warning labels and reinforcing steel bars. There are dents in the metal, and muffled thumps can be heard from within. There is a large creature being held by a freight loader from above the large container, and the roof of it is a thick mesh of transparasteel and titanium plates."It is already her feeding time." He says. A group of taidarens work a control panel nearby, and the roof slowly opens. The container shakes slightly, and a loud screech echoes from within. Your clone makes out deep gashes in the metal along the inside.The crane slowly lowers the animal into the container, and just as it dips bellow sight, the container shakes again, and a geyser of animal chunks fly up, splattering over the walls inside the container. There are loud tearing and crunching sounds, and a bite-covered leg flies up and over the lip of the container before landing with a thud on the ground. The roof of the container quickly shuts."The Red Spotted Carnotar. Not quite bright, hard to train, and always hungry." He shrugs, "I'll be honest with you, I've been trying to get rid of the thing for months now. I mean look at it! I could fit a condo in here, I used to store the tribbles in here, I had to move them to my office because the thing smells them and gets riled up!" He says. "I will make you a deal. Fifty thousand credits, and it's yours.">Agree>Refuse>Other
>>42375545>>Agree>And we'll I'll take the other two fine specimens you showed me as well.
>>42375545>AgreeAnd we might come back for the other ones after we make some sales and get more cash, if it costs too much to get those as well right now.
>>42371136>Slightly, yes. Capturing a living advanced relay requires an extraordinary amount of luck and effort.We should lay a Large bio-tank drone then.Since we've seen with Lyle, you can technically revive the recently dead into your prisoner, even if you killed them.>>42375545>>OtherI feel like we can negotiate...lower.
>>42375545>OtherTry to haggle him down first. Only suckers take the first offer. Maybe mention that we have some exotic never before seen animals on our ship he can peruse for an exchange. Then when he's alone, parasite him.
>>42375545>AgreeHow much do the other 2 cost?
>>42375545>>OtherSo I'm doing you a favor taking it off your hands really. 20 thousand credits.
>>42375545>otherbuy ALL THREE YOU SHOWED ME>small cages filled with the multi-colored fluff balls line the far side of the roomI seriously want these fluffy balls, goddamnplease?
>>42375545>Agreei think this is the start of a beautiful business relationship, i'll be Bach
>>42375613we can come back and get some after we sell those reactors
>>42375591This, offer to trade with him. We do have flys on our ship so we can knock him out, right?
>>42375613one of those small things. For, umm, our kid.
>>42375545>AgreeBut haggle first, it's just good manners.
>>42375629Yeah. If they cost too much, we just lace an order, go make some sales, and come back to pay up and pick up.
>>42375545>>42375591if we have parasites and a way to knock him out on our ship
>>42375660Did we seriously send a completely hive-controlled ship into human/valen space with no egg-layer, flies, or parasites?
>>42375660I honestly don't see any reason to parasite the guy, he has nothing to offer us that we can't pay for.
>>42375679>Implying we go anywhere without an entourage of flies and parasites.
>>42375545imagine if we start parasiting all business owners and staff, we could create a trading empire on the side
>>42375710We always have reason to parasite people.
>>42375710I kinda agree with this anon, no need to parasite everyone we meet.
>>42375660Conveniently enough. We do have this as an excuse for ship meetings.>Any exchange of materials banned under interstellar law must be made within your ship without utilizing our free or premium communication servicesBut, that presumes people don't bring enough personal security to be safe from just this kind of shady ambush from people you just met.Now, we just need a list of things banned under interstellar law...
>>42375745our resident merc should know
>>42375710There is always a reason to parasite.In this case. Knowledge of the local station from someone with experience. And crazy Hassan's INCREDIBLE BARGAINS
>>42375745like mind controlling parasites?
>>42375729Which is?>>42375722the guy is a pet shop owner, hes small time, what you should parasite is a valen merchant and some human swindlers/diplomats.
>>42375710The only reason to NOT parasite anyone we can get our hands on is if we expect them to undergo through medical scans. An animal dealer especially could be very valuable for smuggling hive lifeforms throughout Union space. We can use it to expand our (ever growing) information network.
Don't forget to buy narcotics on the way out.Never enough bio-weapons.
>>42375745I'm pretty sure undiscovered, possibly sentient lifeforms are illegal to be traded under interstellar law. We can pretend to be selling "primitive" hive lifeforms. Even if this guy brings security with him, a few flies and brawlers should take care of that handily.
>>42375545>also obtain tribbles for breeding research.
>>42375778Oh man, we are going to get our adopted humans fucking wasted.
>>42375745I wonder if this means that Valen puppets can't be used for these deals, and that the Valen have to come aboard in person.That would be ideal.
>>42375771Gotta get the small fry before we move onto the big stuff. Nothing to really lose from parasiting him, and enough to gain it's worth our while.
>>42375758>There is always a reason to parasite.In this case its a bad reason to parasite because it seems your doing it just for fun.>In this case. Knowledge of the local station from someone with experience.There are better people we can parasite than him though.>And crazy Hassan's INCREDIBLE BARGAINSNow you're just delusional, he isn't sly enough or crazy enough for that king of title.
>>42375771This is a stupid fallacy. It's like a bizarre reversal of the fallacy of relative privation."There are bigger, much harder to reach targets" is not a reason not to take the easy targets. "The final boss exists" is not a reason not to fight the midboss.
>>42375545"So I'd be doing you a favor by just taking this off your hands then." Your clone says. "How's twenty thousand sound?" The man scoffs indignantly."You'd be doing me a favor by buying any of these things. It is a business. That is how this works, but if I wanted to give them away I'd just toss them out an airlock." He says. "I can do forty thousand if it means you have it out of here by the end of the day." Your clone nods."That sounds reasonable." Your clone says, and he shakes hands with the man. "Oh, and what about those furry looking things?" You add, "For, uh, a gift for my mother back home.""What, a tribble?" He asks. "Sure, take one. I hardly have enough space for the things anymore. Just keep them away from each other. They're born in the mood, if you know my meaning." He says as he leads your clone back out of the store. "If you're interested in the others, the Copperback is twenty thousand and the Grek is thirty.""That's ridiculous!" You say, ready to attempt negotiations. He cuts you off."No, you just got the Carnator for a steal. Everything looks expensive after that." He says. The shade hounds let out several hisses in the distance. He grabs one of the small balls of fluff and tosses it to your clone as you leave. It vibrates in your clone's hands and lets out a soft purr.I think I'm going to have to call it here. I'll try to stick around for any questions or feedback.
>>42375840A more fitting title would be resource drain because we gain very little from him, the gain does not outweigh the cost.
>>42375862he also isn't selling us any used cammels
>>42375862The point of parasiting him is to make him that crazy.
>>42375906Take the Copperback. The Grek doesn't have anything we don't have better. We might be able to get an adaptation or two from that camo
>>42375912>cost>drainThere is no fucking cost. He feeds the parasite out of his own meals.
>>42375906Are there gonna be more extra threads or will you go back to the usual schedule?
also getting the shade hounds is a must as they seem drawn to hive life and seem able to sniff out our parasites.
>>42375906>>42375941Well, I have an idea...Anyone wanna uplift a pair of Greks? Or at least find out where they live? Them being supposed to be devolutions of a sentient race sounds mighty interesting.
>>42375912What cost? The only cost is possibly quest time from how long we spend going over the parasiting process. He feeds the parasite with his own meals, and it's incredibly cheap for us to just create a new parasite to replace the used one.
>>42375906As great as the long, wonderful prose is. And I really enjoyed exploring the bazaar.Things take too long if you keep doing them this well.We need at least the vote prompt option of starting some initiatives that are strictly Thinker-managed. Because there are a ton of things we can do and want to do that we never ever get around to.
>>42375906Oh man, thanks for running QD, I can never get enough of this quest. Now if we can vote on actions now, we've been kicking around a few ideas since the last thread.>Build Farms on Raligha>Build Light Fighters>Build Light Fleet Battlecarriers>Build Stalker Corvettes
>>42375990I'm game with that. We could always clone or rewire the DNA of some Greks so they go back to their intelligent stage. Really, that's almost childs play for something as good at bio-engineering as the hive.
>>42376003You forgot the plan to recover the crystal from the commonwealth.
>>42376003We should build 2,000 farms, 2,000 light fighters, 200 Stalker corvettes, and add light fleet battlecarriers to each light fleet.
>>42376003Eh, I'd rather put those fleet resources towards infrastructure like Gas Giant orbital stations. Gotta keep up that exponential growth yo.
>>42375906>Research Tribble, acquire fuzzy wuzzy hive creep
>>42375906Lay 20 Large Bio-tanks.We're gonna need one for the Camator and for the Obsidian Queen's large drone there, and want to be prepared for such big guys in the future.
>>42376038So you wanna add another 2,000 electroponic stations to the 2,000 we've got on the way? We can do that in addition to this everything on this list.
>>42376039Weaponize the tribble and watch your enemys drown in adorable little fluffballs, that consume entire planets...
>>42375745Interstellar law forbids the sale of sapient life. While the law is rather strangely worded to avoid implying that machine intelligence posses inherent rights to personal freedom, there is a separate law that forbids the sale, production, and use of free-thinking machines. Other things include gravitic warheads and very specific kinds of nukes, although those particular laws are typically seen as something like people in the 21st century banning crossbows to prevent war crimes. They were banned years ago and now nobody really wants them anymore.>>42375970Probably not this week, but if I can squeeze some more out I'll be sure to let you know on twitter.>>42375995Yes, after your short pow pow with local businessmen and setting up what you want to sell you will be able to easily have your thinkers manage things.>>42376003Sure thing. Feel free to list out any plans or votes we missed and I'll hold them real quick.
>>42375906So we have to pick a commodity that has the highest price point per unit volume, for maximum efficiency of using the cargo space on each trip.Which one gets the most creds per cubic meter of the stuff. Narcotics?Also how about ordering a quantum scrambler warhead off space eBay from Lyle's account like we ordered the FTLComm pair. We need to reverse engineer one.
>>42375906Did we get 2 tribbles or just 1?I was hoping for a breeding pair.
>>42376055Sure, why not.
Mandible: Siren 15NBlade: Combat 1NArms: Strength 1NLegs: Sprint 1NWings: Advanced 4NUtility: Seeker Pod 10NLauncher: Swarm missiles 10N 40MLauncher: Swarm missiles 10N 40MCarapace: Reactive 4N 15MChassis: Basic 0Cost: 56N 95M>>42376078We don't breed things, we clone them.
>>42376101>We don't breed things, we clone them.Seems like some gross overengineering to clone tribbles. I'm almost certain we could make more faster than cloning by throwing them in a box with some crumbs.
>>42376068Cool. To recap.>Build 2,000 Farms on Raligha >Build 2,000 Light Fighters and add them to the light fleets>Build 40 Light Fleet Battlecarriers and add them to the light fleets>Build Stalker Corvettes>Build 2,000 electroponic stations>Lay 20 large bio tanksThis look good? Anything we should add?
>>42376068664 Mining Corvettes.100 Swarm Corvettes.50 Listeners for the Gemini sewers as the best security network we have.
>>42376068He never said how much the shadehound was.We might want to at least try that one so we're better prepared for going loco on Coco.
>>42376068QD, how many harvesters can Leeland support? Can we just go and get up to that cap?
>>42376137We've still got that order for 664 mining corvettes coming though. We could add another 1,000 on to the 1,000 that will eventually come along, but 1,000 ships alone brings in 8,000,000 metals a day and we've got plenty of other ships to build.
>>42376136Add 100 of these things >>42376101We need at least something with a Siren for potentially disorienting big targets like relays.Although, if you use the siren to make a relay drone reset its brain. Does that also in turn momentarily cut off all other drones from their Mother?
>>42376136*Build 200 Stalker CorvettesMissed the number there.
>>42376151We already did get to harvester cap. That was already a vote.
>>42376068So you won't be writing this Sunday, just making sure. Also next thread can we have a vote for the crystal recovery plan?>>42372242
>>42376151We reached cap already and i think we even made more and built over the limit.
>>42376172No. That's a terrible plan.
>>42376111>mfw we could breed special kinds of Tribbles with our vast bio-knowledge>Attack Tribbles>Grenade Tribbles>Extra-fast-breeding Tribbles>Berserker Tribbles>NanotribblesAnd we'll find a way to weaponize them all.
>>42376068>Build 2,000 Farms on Raligha >Build 2,000 Light Fighters and add them to the light fleets>Build 40 Light Fleet Battlecarriers and add them to the light fleets>Build 200 Stalker Corvettes>Build 2,000 electroponic stations>Lay 20 large bio tanks>Other
>>42376200Then what do you suggest we do? I'm all ears.
>>42376101Nah, what's the point of absurdly expensive missile launchers on a drone who's purpose is to bring in it's target's alive?
>>42376220>Build 200 Stalker Corvettes>>Lay 20 large bio tanks
>>42376220>>Build 2,000 Farms on Raligha >>Build 2,000 Light Fighters and add them to the light fleets>>Build 40 Light Fleet Battlecarriers and add them to the light fleets>>Build 200 Stalker Corvettes>>Build 2,000 electroponic stations>>Lay 20 large bio tanks
>>42376201Tribble drones... terrifying things really.A couple of them are enough to infest a planet.
>>42376220>Build 2,000 Farms on Raligha >Build 2,000 Light Fighters and add them to the light fleets>Build 40 Light Fleet Battlecarriers and add them to the light fleets>Build 200 Stalker Corvettes>Build 2,000 electroponic stations>Lay 20 large bio tanks
>>42376220>Build 2,000 Farms on Raligha >Build 2,000 Light Fighters and add them to the light fleets>Build 40 Light Fleet Battlecarriers and add them to the light fleets>Build 200 Stalker Corvettes>Build 2,000 electroponic stations>Lay 20 large bio tanks>Research into Tribble Drones
>>42376245I wrote down an Anti-Hive Support Colossus, and I'm working on a medium sized Relay Capture Drone as well. I just need to know one thing to finilize things for that one: can the hypodermic tool be used to inject some plaster or cement-like substance? something that starts out in a liquid-like state, but quickly hardens after it's injected. That could be a big help if that's the case.
>>42376224>>42376200Still waiting for your plan anon.
>>42376220200 filter towers in Huron
>>42376220>>Other100 Swarm Corvettes.
>>42376329You know, that sounds a lot like the material used in our non lethal ammo for our thorn launchers. It's a plastic like substance that expands and sets, immobilizing the target and preventing it from moving. What you're talking about might require some research, but is technically feasible, but would be hell on soft targets and still rather niche. Also, keep in mind the hypodermic blades are comparatively very fragile and not as sturdy as the combat or tool blades. Still sounds interesting though, looking forward to seeing what you've got in mind.
>>42376329Maybe that liquid carbon stuff we use for our ship repair? Wasn't it a living creature we found on a moon?
>>42375906>He grabs one of the small balls of fluff and tosses it to your clone as you leave. It vibrates in your clone's hands and lets out a soft purr.okay, staying up tonight was totally worth it.I feel all giddy.can we make a small speaker from the genes of these guys? please?
So it's good to know the OQ has some unique units. Acid flies, zero-g flat wasps, relay mini-bosses
>>42376385I could support this notion, if advanced psionic disruptors were incorporated into the design.
>>42376417I'd also like to know which non-heavy carapace has the best resistance to acid, since that seemed to be a theme with some of her drones, and the big relay made use of it as well. I'm split between combat and reactive. Might go with Bio-electrical to stun it on contact and offer a crucial opening. Obviously they'll work with other drones regardless though.
>>42376493I'm more interested at those flies. their melty-sticky thing looks interesting. maybe a bit too powerful against meaty enemies, but looks reasonable against hardy enemies that we need to subdue.
>>42376538Hard light bitch, good luck with acid interacting with photons!SOON
>>42376538The hardlight armor will probably be best suited for preventing acid splashes once we unlock it.
>>42376220>Build 2,000 Farms on Raligha >Build 2,000 Light Fighters and add them to the light fleets>Build 40 Light Fleet Battlecarriers and add them to the light fleets>Build 200 Stalker Corvettes>Build 2,000 electroponic stations>Lay 20 large bio tanksPlus>Build 4 Capillary Towers on Leeland
>>42376538The problem of molecular acid as an offensive agent has never before been encountered by us, and as such all the armor options don't really address the issue. Hopefully our scavenging of her hive ship will open up research options that will give us some options in that regard, but until then we don't have any effective counter to it.
>>42376563>>42376577I'm gonna go with bio-electrical covered in hard light once we complete that research then. Thanks, fellow drones. For mother!
>>42376381Like when watching Parliament with the king bill, you are making a presumption.You're assuming that there is a solution that doesn't just make things worse.People PANIC ing aren't thinking straight. No active interference or pleas to believe us are going to have the effects we desire. The urge to try 'something' no matter how futile is blinding people.While we've found out the situation is worse, the fundamentals haven't changed. We knew the Union was tampering with forces beyond their ken. The solution there is to insinuate ourselves into the Union until we can stifle the dangerous research, or barring that, to destroy the careers of the politicians who know about that research.Nothing you say, claim, transmit, or whatever can change the fundamental lust of the humans for power and research. They believe what they want to believe, and like anons, favor action in emergency panic mode. And the Cold War puts them in CONSTANT panic mode.There is no open action to take that doesn't just worsen that situation. Fortunately, if the Commonwealth takes it, we may have a chance in a week or so to scan some admiral's brain and learn all about where they're hiding it and other valuable things that we can then false-flag a Union attack on with hybrids. It was the Commonwealth's void shard in the first place a hundred years ago, they probably already have others. It doesn't hurt the situation much to let them have one more temporarily until we can steal it back.
>>42376172That plan is garbage.>>42376381Check the tail end of 53.3 for my plan which reveals much less of our allies and information.
>>42376220Hey QD, I noticed that the Boarding Pod launcher module wasn't on the pastebin. Have you consolidated boarding pods into the drop pod launcher for convenience? That would certainly make things simpler for everyone.
>>42376679But the Commonwealth will be sure to retrieve it anyway.You can maybe, possibly, if you want to risk it, talk to them about feeling bad mojo after they secure it and bring it closer into their territory.But it would be better just to pretend not to know about it and steal it from them in a false flag posing as a human faction.
Okay next thread, we absolutely, positively, need to get that holo-printer.It's the day our clones wake up from their surgery and need to go to New Tokyo.They need dem fake IDs. We need to start talking to Taidarens and dangle those hundreds of parasites in front of them. An advance payment if you get it now now now.
>>42376772>But the Commonwealth will be sure to retrieve it anyway.Not really, considering that Killinger is ready to openly fight them for it. Did you miss Union mobilizing all those fleets in the opening posts?>But it would be better just to pretend not to know about it and steal it from them in a false flag posing as a human faction.That's not possible, we do not have enough human-make ships to false flag anything.
Guys what happened to building discreet filter towers in the deep deep seas of Huron?
>>42376679I'm not entirely sure which plan you're referring to and I can't really pick out the post you're talking about, but in general I would say at this point in our relationship with the Commonwealth we're better off responding to things as they develop as opposed to trying to stick to a plan that relies on a bunch of assumptions as to how the humans will react to us strong arming our way into the conflict. Humans are nothing if not unpredictable when they've got their backs to the wall.
>>42376845>Not reallyThe fact that the Union obviously wants it back will make sure they are as motivated as they can be to retrieve it themselves. We don't need extra motivation to keep it.They also have the advantage, in that they already have it in their clutches. They are much more likely to win.
>>42376863Insufficient support for it, young drone.
Theoretically, if someone is gonna be submitted to bodyscans, we could just replace one of their kidneys with a parasite. Then there's no unexplained lump.Then, much later, after scrutiny on them has passed, the parasite can move around in their sleep and attach itself to their spine, and use bio-salve to regenerate their missing kidney. A delayed parasiting.
>Mother, those crystals are SINGING to us!>don't look at them, Black Queen. Their knowledge is dangerou....>IT IS TOO LATE, MOTHER. I HATE EVERYTHING.
>>42377035Wouldn't that 'kidney' look a bit, you know, strange?
>>42377194No?Parasites have extremely advanced adaptive camouflage. Which got boosted dramatically recently by the privy coat.So it would look exactly like a kidney unless they tried to dissect it or something.
>>42377226I mean on the scanners. or whatever the guys of this future are using in their hospitals.
>>42376620And sometimes taking action is better like when we prevented the mirage from crashing into the diplomatic meeting.And you're assuming that we have time when in truth the longer we postpone this the worse it will get.And people waiting for a better opportunity are expecting to much. this is the best moment to interfere because they are still pulling the wreckage out instead of experimenting with it in a fortified lab.The fundamentals have changed, the void god has started to brainwash humans into ceph 2.0 and is aiding the humans in psychic research so he can enslave then in one single strike.Of course humans are greedy for power, so are we. But that doesn't mean they aren't cautious, They have the brainpower to realize that fucking with this thing is must be done carefully because of the unknown particles it emits, they will be even more cautious to the point of borderline paranoia when we tell them what happens to sentient creatures near the crystal.Your plan to blame the union when we retrieve the thing has so many holes in it it has already reached the sea floor, have you honestly not thought that the minute the commonwealth retrieves the crystal they wont immediately warp into the most fortified system to study it? They planted a ginormous amount of space mines to protect their capital, just imagine what they use to protect a secret lab they expect will be attacked. And what about the ships huh? how will you make so many union ships AND their crew when we have been repeatedly told by QD that any attempt to make something look like it was manufactured by humans doesn't work, never mind the cost.The thing about assuming the commonwealth of having more void shards is that if they have them they would have already started to research it since they're so greedy, yet they still don't have stealth tech.(cont.)
>>42377405This also doesn't explain why the void god hasn't interacted with humans until it meet union scientists, if the Commonwealth had extra shards why hasn't the void god started brainwashing them.
>>42377405>yet they still don't have stealth tech.sorry, ranted to hard, a better example is why they haven't replaced their warp drives with ceph drives or whatever its called.
>>42376986I was supporting it but had to be at my job. I still say we should have them.Also wondering if the Leeland oceans would support some. We still haven't explored the ocean since that one giant crustacean we got the tail adaptation from roflstomped our gill warriors
Something that has been bothering me a while.>There is cheering in the firing chamber, and someone orders the devices to be fired again. They can have this victory if it means you will have yours.>>39455272 >You have what you need, and you leave the relay. Lightyears from the violence of the budding space faring creatures, your workers begin their task.But one hundred Earth-revolutions passed between that and>>36075191 >"Thing is ready!" The chorus of a million thinkers fills your mind. It failed before, but this time it must work. You will only have a single chance.>>38092464>Your mother, for example, had millions of thinkers all dedicated to Psionic Cannon research, which was likely out of desperation, and was horrifically inefficient.How? The humans already researched it, even if it remained volatile, it did at least work, it didn't 'fail', it was just risky, 2/3rds of the time it didn't explode. Maybe you'd want to improve that success rate, but why would you need a million Thinkers to re-research it, and why did it take a century before doing so.
>>42377546Leeland oceans just have spores and crabs, nothing more to find.
>>42377361Adaptive camouflage was already capable of fooling scanners entirely, making you think it was a natural all-human tumor.>>35189888 >While medical scans are far more detailed, and thus far more difficult to hide from, yes, you could use camo to hide from medical scans. A full body checkup like a CAT scan would still detect some abnormality, but it would appear as a large tumor or cyst as opposed to a giant, squirming insect monster hugging your kidneys.>That is, until they go in to remove it thinking it just a tumor.Privy coat then recently gave a dramatic boost against scanners, so it should be even harder to distinguish.
>>42377405I agree that letting humans get a hold of the void shard is bad news. That being said, if we do an all out attack, we could probably blow through virtually any defenses. Consider, for example, our first contact with the Commonwealth. On the pastebin the planet is described as: "Iserlohn: A fortress planet dedicated to the research and production of experimental military technology, and one of the most heavily fortified locations in the Commonwealth. The planet is host to innumerable military bases for testing and manufacturing all manner of weapons, equipment, ships, and various technological systems, as well as training solders in their use. The surface is pockmarked with craters and blast marks from warhead impacts and mock battles in addition to the more recent and more devastating battle scars from the Commonwealth’s war with the Scavengers."The planet's defenses were failing due to attacks by Scavengers before we intervened. We wiped the floor with the Scavs and our forces now are several times stronger than they were then. If the need arises we do have a nuclear option when it comes to obtaining the void shard. However, that should be considered only as a last resort. We need to act now in order to prevent open warfare.
>>42377405One human.He can't do shit. He has no power or influence.
>>42377546Maybe she was just testing the firing mechanismby guiding the humans to build it, she still needed to perfect the ship that houses it to hurt the void god.The answer is probably in psionic canon research.
>>42377460Because they can't make more of them. Duh. They're not scalable.
>>42377579>Leeland oceans just have spores and crabsOoh, just thought of a new insult to OQ."Your coochie is like Leeland's oceans, full of spores and crabs!"
>>42377579Yeah, Leeland oceans are surprisingly uniform in terms of lifeforms, and shallow compared to oceans on other planets. We'll have better luck finding something new and interesting in Huron or Earth's oceans.Unrelated, what does everyone think of checking out Refuge's rocky temperate world and its forest moon. Not necessarily for the ruins for the former, but for a biome survey.
>>42377579>>42377579That's just lazy. We have aquatic warriors now. We haven't been beyond exploring the shallow shoreline
>>423775741. The data gathered from earth wasn't good enough and Mother had to make adjustments that took a hundred years to do.Which isn't that far-fetched considering it took 50,000 years or so from the Builder's disastrous prototype that failed to the Confederacy's moon gun firing a couple of times before it blew up.2. The pod that was carrying us layed dormant for a hundred years waking up, there's a flaw with that though because QDs description on our first time in Reprieve said that Mother's hiveship was only relatively recently killed.Or maybe its one of those inconsistancies that'll be retconned, like way back in the first few threads QD said that the ancient hives didn't have a large drone chassis and then fast-forward to when we found Refuge and we somehow got hundreds of Colossi that Mother hid in storage.
>>42377779>Leeland oceans are surprisingly uniformHow can you say taht when you've never even explored them.You've literally only been in the shallow end.
>>42377801* when we found Farcast I mean.
>>42377675>One human.>He can't do shit. He has no power or influence."I am normally not one to put stock in visual observation, but I have noticed the artifact always seems slightly different when observed. I convinced some colleagues to humor me, and took measurements while it was being observed from all angles. They came back as the same. None of our cameras ever detect it moving. The only variable is human observation.""The others insist on using visors with cameras. They refuse to look at it directly now. I find this strange."he has attempted on convincing the other scientists to look at the shard more.Another thing.“My agents say the containment may have been breached. Emmerich says that’s impossible."This suggest that the void shards influence has already breached containment, meaning the thing isn't completely dependent in brainwashed puppets.
>>42377405>when in truthYou're making another baseless assumption.>aiding the humans in psychic research so he can enslave then in one single strike.That doesn't make any fucking sense. "one single strike"? What strike? They have one person listening to their whispers.And you're simply wrong about humans. To them, the biggest threat of all is the other humans. The Ceph are nothing but occasional raiders and nuisances by comparison. They will never de-prioritize the fear and loathing between the pigs ad the dogs. It's too fundamental to their politics and identity.There is no way you can convince the USA and USSR to simply not investigate nukes at all because it's beyond their understanding.
>>42377803That's why we need to lay aquatic drones we use on Huron to explore. Who knows the oceans might be a great place for fields of filter towers>>42377779I vote for it.
>>42377661But we haven't seen Iserlohn in full efficiency or what the scavs did to breach the planets defenses, they could have sent an armada or use a rare weapon and still lost a large amount of ships.
>>42377405>They have the brainpower>>40621127 >you should never underestimate the powers of human dismissal. There will always be people who believe their bias, both in your favor and against you.> "Humans are beings of action. If you make them think there is an emergency they will often react to it before they can realize they were fooled, and once fooled, they will often prefer to defend their position than acknowledge they were ever wrong."
>>42377423>If the commonwealth had extra shards why hasn't the void god started brainwashing them.Who says it hasn't. Also oh shit panic!
>>42377840Good point, I hadn't thought of it that way. Shit.
>>42377840>This suggest that the void shards influence has already breached containmentNo it doesn't.It implies that a nuclear explosion damaged its Faraday cage.
>>42377423>void god hasn't interacted with humans until it meet union scientistsWho says it hasn't.>if the Commonwealth had extra shards why hasn't the void god started brainwashing them.It can only whisper into the minds of people directly exposed to it.Leadership seldom visits the labs, and not for very long periods of time.
>>42377906see this post.>>42377840the void god is attempting to spread its influence. reminder that this entity uplifts primitive aliens to turn them into slaves, how it does it? I don't know and i'm to tired to search the archives but its safe to assume that it has both a plan and the power to turn the union into the imperium of man(under void gods rule) or as he prefers to call it "best slave species."
>>42377840And Emmerich is notoriously unconvincing and derided as 'eccentric'.He's a lost cause, but he really doesn't have the social capital to cause serious damage. We just have to assassinate him.Look up whatever info we can on the guy and see where he was last seen.
>>42378143It took centuries. CENTURIES. To accomplish what the crystals did with previous slave races.And that was with a giant-ass Singing Stone at openly singing at the heart of their civilization, not a single tiny-ass shard.It is attempting, and it is unable to gain traction even among Emmerich's direct underlings, in case you didn't notice. Not even they listen to him when he suggests they directly expose themselves.
Worth noting that humanity basically swore off self augmentation and AI r&d because of the dangers. So there is hope for convincing the Commonwealth not to be dumb
Hopefully QD took note that the vote passed earlier with little opposition. I really don't want to have to bring that up again next thread.
>>42378400Which vote? The one to create all that stuff right.
>>42378427Yeah the farms and the fighters and the corvettes.
>>42378143And the White Queen in all likelihood prepared against this eventuality.Any human exposed long enough to the crystals' influence will suffer mental breakdown and die before they become entirely their thrall.Emmerich is in the early stage where he can still be in denial about his addiction, and is serving human interests for human reasons, fellow human. But in time he will overdose.>>> This is all very frustrating. I still think it is at the root, a problem of infrastructure. The human brain just can't take the strain, it seemed to have evolved specifically not to receive the signals, or more precisely, the information.">It's almost anti-psionic. The brain breaks down before it actually starts accepting information. It would be as if a race evolved to have eyes that melt when they see a certain color. It makes no sense!">"Unless..."
>>42378187>"Months pass. Years. Decades. Centuries. The crater appears like a massive geode, a forest of slender crystal spires assembled around a massive structure that hums in silence, calling out to something. Soon it is answered.">calling out to something.It took centuries for it to call a primitive species near it because it was waiting for a species to evolve proper sentience like the skylHumans have already passed the requirements for sentience so the void god has already passed step one.
>>42378204>because of the dangersBased on direct observation of one AI and some cyborgs going killbot. Not information they have to blindly trust from a complete stranger.Apples and oranges.Especially since you know what else they've directly observed? The fucking amazing weapon applications of this technology. Which they absolutely need or they are going to get conquered by those bastards across the border.An invaluable reward they have directly seen themselves is greater than the risks that are abstract, distant, and only alleged.
>>42378500>"'I look upon the void and shake. There is no reason but theirs that I swim these waters, for there is nothing but them, and from them, there will be nothing.'A Ceph poem. I found it recently on the net. We will be running our first test tomorrow.">"The test was a perfect success.The door has been opened. To go in, and come out. Soon the real work can begin."Hes already speaking in tongues though.
>>42378563So give them the history of the skyl and as they directly observe what happened to them they'll get cold feet and treat the shard less like a tool and more like the boogeyman.
>>42378601That's not speaking in tongues. That's eccentricity tainted with subtle influence. keyword subtle. That indicates nothing but the early stages.Actual indication of him near the end stages would be directly harming other humans in pursuit of alien goals.
>>42378650Oh yes, the history you totally didn't make up. Uhhuh.At this level of advancement there is no such thing as footage that can't be forged. There is no proof you can provide. At all.
>>42378650Ah, but they have something that the Skyl never had. Human ingenuity and more importantly, containment methods.The risks can be managed that way, and everything will be worth it if they can gain the power to blow the enemy fleet out of the sky in a few hits. And if the Ceph come, they can blow them away too. Humanity will be unstoppable, you'll see, buggers.
>>42378675Except heretic and his skyl clones are proof. In fact we don't need to give it to them, let heretic do it and watch as he goes>DEUS VOLT. Theseus will be there to provide backup.
>>42378546Then it's ambiguous how long it took after that, and again, they had a gigantic monolith to work with, with a huge range, not a tiny shard confined to laboratories.
We really need to parasite a Valen somehow.Any Valen really, just to get our fin in the door of the Valen-specific aquatic areas of stations and ships.Because we need to find Valen smugglers to target, and find out about the routes that lead to the Ceph homeworld. One of them, somewhere, knows. And managed to get the Gate Guild's approval for that miniature gate they gave the Ceph.
>>42378500However, there is always a possibility of a rare guy being crazy in JUST the right way to not melt down and accept the full whisper.
>>42378782No they aren't. Some bird aliens exist, and make a claim that you clearly both agreed upon beforehand. That's not proof. That's "my friends agree with me, trust him."
>>42378675True, but we are also powerful. We can do more than just say: "hey don't do that" We can say "Don't do that or we'll Space War you because you're threatening every living organism in this sector of the galaxy. We use a carrot and stick approach - look at everything you can get from working with us up to and including immortality. If you fuck with us and ignore our warnings on this specific issue at a bare minimum billions will die. We also have Heretic and Theseus backing us up. A bit of gunboat diplomacy.
CAUGHT IT BEFORE IT FELL OFF THE BOARD
>>42378988The reaction to that is "hide that you're doing it." Also involving the others openly is a really terrible idea, especially Theseus. Don't admit that kind of association, it would let them know too much.
>>42378752>"but as they closed in on their goal, their scouts went dark. Signals of destruction on world after world until the space around their home bent and twisted. The fleets in orbit fight for their lives as they are scattered like insects. The planet cracks and warps as the seething mass pours from slipspace, shattering the planet like an egg.">it seems this once space fairing species has gone extinct due to them betraying their so called "god".>you are observant as ever Dr Beketov, but i must say that strange crystalline formation is extremely familiar to the ceph slip drive we have been experimenting on.>I agree Dr Vladimir, in fact i have a hypothesis that the ceph slip drive and that crystal are one and the same.>My god Beketov, do you think the sample might also react like that.>I pray not Friend, have you seen that planet crack? Truly frightening. This material is obviously more dangerous than any nuke, bio-weapon or even a singularity gun.>Should we get rid of it Dr? It is obviously too dangerous to even keep near us, much less tinker with it.>Don't be silly Vladimir, we will hit it with this hammer until it kills capitalist union pig.>You're right Dr belkov i let my fear get the better of me, FOR MOTHER RUS- i mean, FOR THE GLORIOUS COMMONWEALTH.>this is what you think a human scientist thinks.
>>42379219Fair enough with involving Theseus. That is definitely a calculated risk. I agree that the humans may continue in secret. In fact, they are almost certain to do so. The advantage we would gain by going public is to slow their research, beef up their militarization, and stop a war when their forces will soon need to be utilized against the Obsidian Queen and Void God. With our level of infiltration, we can learn know about certain secret sites and call the humans out on it. Hopefully they can be delayed long enough that we can convince them of the immediacy of the threat they face before they kill themselves. The revelation alone that fucking around with this stuff destroyed the Earth would lead to real political change in the Union at a bare minimum.
>>42378982I never said we would go retrieve the shard together, in fact the hive has never meet this civilization.(wink wink)
>>42379248>implying this is not what the union were doing with the void crystal they found>implying the commonwealth won't do the same thing in so as not to be outclassed with regards to superweapons once they learn the union has been making progress with void crystal tech
>>42379283Hey look another anon that uses their brain to make plans instead of wasting it on shadowruns, i thank you for your contribution in this plan and your valuable input.
>>42379283Just a heads up, we don't know how integrated Theseus and Heretic are, and if Heretic finds out the union is fucking with those void crystals he will immediately break cover to warn and/or destroy the facility as soon as physically possible.
>>42379306>Implying they weren't following the instructions to the letter>Implying the white queen would have let them get out of her sight.>Implying once the commonwealth learn what the void god is they wont immediately try to outclass the union in everything except psychic powers and embrace their resistance to psychic signals.>HUMANITY WILL REMAIN PURE!>WE WILL NEVER FALL TO THE DARK GOD!
>>42379283>stop a war when their forces will soon need to be utilizedNot this shit again.
>>42379283No, fuck the humans, fuck anything except the pursuit of collecting the void shards from the Ceph.The psionic cannon is the only thing in the universe that will ever make a difference against the final boss. Everything else can be torn through like butter by Ceph voidcutters.Which ignore armor.
>>42379283>and stop a warAhahaahahah you think they'll ever stop hating the enemies of Democracy and will ever let go of a reason to pull their itchy trigger finger.They've been blueballed for a hundred years, there are no brakes on the rape train.
>>42379737>Fuck humansno>Fuck anything except the pursuit of collecting the void shards from the Ceph.
>>42379779Then why did America cooperate with the soviet union against Nazi Germany if they hated each others guts.
>>42379782The humans are in the way. And cannot be forgiven any more than the Obsidian Queen.
>>42379811Are you confused about the order in which WW2 and the Cold War happened?Also Nazi germany wasn't a completely mysterious, extremely distant thing about which they knew basically nothing. It was a direct threat to Russia.