We have got a looooad of crap.Everyone in the crew is getting 568z right off the bat from the 26 way split in rewards from the last mission. If you were in the first image of the last thread >>42289757 then you have a cut.We're currently determining if we should sell our three captured monsters>Owl's Slime>Hetros' Shadow Weasel>Party's Severed Hand of [The Board of Education]These could be sold to the blood market for zenny and information. What information we want to know before we sell.We also have various questions that need answering:>>42298613>>42298424>>42298983>>42298562>>42298492>>42298587Until then, discuss the last map, what you feel we could have done better, what we did well, the mistakes that COULD have happened and what we did to avoid them. As well as speculation and theories.Current fun ones are:>Changing spell books between preparing and casting a spell changes how that spell worksThat's about it right now.
I miss Pumpkin Jill[N]Khya Lv3HP: 3/3 MV: 3 ACT: 2+1 ATK: 1+2 DEF: 1+1 MAG: 3+4Main hand: Reaper Scythe Lv2 (Mag+2 Atk+2 Rng2)Off hand: Watcher Lv2 (ACT +1)Gear: Cloak Lv2 (DEF +1 MAG +2)Bag: Hammer, Academic Writing Pole, Golden Helmet, Eye of EldLlama Bank: 1597zSkills: Pulse Channel Ward CleanseAccel
>>42300312The current classes (assuming we use this to launch the next thread, somehow, new players may only select from the central 6)
>>42300312Don't forget the monsters can be sold for spells!
>>42300312explanations for the starting items.>>42300414they can be, but not right now, and each monster we have uses up an iron maiden that could be used to capture -more- monsters.
So uh. Am I undead? And Gilda and Becka? Are they?
>>42300601Are you white with red eyes? If not, you're not undead.
>>42300714I have the red eyes.
>>42300744link the last picture with you in it?
>>42300312Hmm, the stalkers dont have a price?
>>42300774I put one in. 350 is what Monday said last thread.
>>42300755It's worth noting I guess that after a bunch of new mages started deploying they were copy pastes of me, and so ALSO had the red eyes, but Jackie didn't?>>42293623
>>42300915I think you're fine. You would have been made more obviously zombified if you were a zombie.
I wonder how much we get for selling a zombified teammate, for purely speculative reasons, of course.[N]Khya Lv3HP: 3/3 MV: 3 ACT: 2+1 ATK: 1+2 DEF: 1+1 MAG: 3+4Main hand: Reaper Scythe Lv2 (Mag+2 Atk+2 Rng2)Off hand: Watcher Lv2 (ACT +1)Gear: Cloak Lv2 (DEF +1 MAG +2)Bag: Hammer, Academic Writing Pole, Golden Helmet, Eye of EldLlama Bank: 1597zSkills: Pulse Channel Ward CleanseAccel
>>42300312>Buying Stalkers>Buying 10x Iron Drops>Store 138z into the Bank[R2] Varian Level 2Stats: HP : 2/2, Atk: 2, Act: 3, Def: 0 +1, Mov: 3, Mag: 1Equip: MainH: Snub-02 ( Salamander Shot loaded ), Gear : Prisoner Clothes lv0 +1 def, OffH : Stalkers +2 atk, Fast ClimbItems: 3x lv 1 daggers, 2x Keys, 1x Bomb, Iron Drop x10Skills:[Steal] [Weapon Throw] [Back Attack]Zenny: 138z Banked
>>42300987Remember! you only have 4 item slots!
>>42301009yes? equipment in your hands doesnt count towards the item slots do they?
>>42301022>equipment in your hands doesnt count towards the item slots do they?It does not.
>>42301022well just keep in mind that steal can't work with your hands full. But good luck man!
>>42301070Fully aware, but i rather come prepared, and since dropping items is a free action i can always make space or give them to someone else.
>>42298399>>42300312I do not appreciate being told I must give up my own hard earned work. I also do not appreciate you good sir for making assumptions on what I will do. Any bounty turned in MUST be by the ones who had done the killing. Your calculations are thus in error. Alll you get to claim are the two voidspawn you yourself claimed. If you wish to split that with the others I good sir have no objection.I am the one with the live Possessed Scholar. It was different from the others in that the the squid thing had one eye.>I would like to turn it in for the reward. I believe that gives me 2000z as I had no other kills.>Buy Stalkers>Buy 8 more chainsWhile I prefer my main weapon getting a little dirty is sometimes necessary.Which leaves me to my banking>bank 1400zenny
>>42301346More than fair assessment. Though I'd argue that you only got that chance to capture it at all because you had mages and everyone else fighting the boss, the skeletons, moving forward for you to deploy at all.But it is your bounty and you get to make that call yourself.We're at 12,790 full grouping (until we understand how much the blood market is willing to spend on the other monsters)491.923077 spread out across 26 people, including you Livia so you'll want to increase your banking by that much. (Also don't forget the money you earned from hook and pulling people onto the ship if you did that to anybody.)That's 491 base per person, with 24 left over to split between Jackie and Poka at 12 each.
>>42301346You don't think that you getting 2000z while the rest of us have less than 500 apiece is a little unbalanced?
>>42301474once again told to stop putting anything in. Which is fair. But frankly I think we're better off putting this all into a single goddamn pot and boosting everyone's survival chances. But give the situation, we're back to a 307zenny per head split with everyone, and an 18 zenny split.Burkhard.A pair of botted charactersAnd Questie each have a 958z payout.I have 1916 from the pair I blew the fuck up.Anybody who wasn't able to claim a bounty themselves, or split their bounties into the pot is welcome to ask me to fork in part of that to help them pay for stuff they need. But otherwise it's split too finely to be worth increasing everyone when split 26 ways. So I'll help who I can.My near-final personal zenny is 307+230 for 537 zenny.Again, anybody who simply didn't get a bounty, or did and put it into the pot, is more than welcome to ask me to help them buy stuff. I hope I'll receive the same kindness in turn.>>42301594No no Owl. Don't be that way. It's his bounty. Legitimately from top to bottom. We can't gainsay him that. What does it matter that he only showed up in the last few rounds when most of the danger had past? Or that he had other people keeping shit off of him long enough to grab it?It was -his- bounty! And if that's how he wants to play it that's perfectly fine. We'll take it into consideration when splitting bounties in future.
>>42301651>It was -his- bounty! And if that's how he wants to play it that's perfectly fine. We'll take it into consideration when splitting bounties in future.When I play in future I'm going to be taking it into consideration when I fucking -play- not just when I'm splitting my bounties. Anybody who pulls what H4 just did can forget getting shit from me.
>>42301594>>42301651I am completely enraged that I had no say in the matter. That it was claimed and split like the village pot roast. Maybe if I had been at least asked I would have said yes, of course I shall share it. Right now? My temper is too foul. I wish you both good day and I will not hear more of it.
>>42301691I hope H4 never needs to get Hook and Pulled onto a Ward again, like what happened on this floor.I might not be available for such a task, after all.Oh well, I'm sure that numerous bounty will cover it.
>>42301733I'm sorry you've had to go through this.You can have my portion of the zeny I received if that helps lessen the hurt.Apart from the 10z I spent on water.
>>42301816My thanks kind sir. But you shall need the money more then I... in fact I shall personally give you 100z from my bank for being the first kind soul I have met on this day. I shall not see a single cent given to those that attempt to steal like common rabble and thieves. >Withdraw 100z and give it to Moore
>>42301733Then I apologize for my actions. I made assumptions I shouldn't have. I hope you feel better about this in the future.
>>42301844Thank you, but I really don't need the money right now.I can always make some money on the next floor.I'd rather keep things civil between everyone.A happy team is one step closer to not getting killed due to grievances while on the floor.
>>42301846>>42301844I actually deserve to give you a deeper apology than this Livia.Let me start from the top here.I was wrong, in the entirety, to claim your bounty for the common group. You are absolutely right that I should have asked you too.I blew up, and I acted like an overbearing asshole, but my temper doesn't excuse my actions in the least.I hope we can still work together on the floors ahead.
Screw it. Split my share between yourselves, there's nothing I need to buy.
>>42301948Good sir. While your actions were beyond the pall I shall accept your apology. While I cannot give the entire 2000 now, as I have spent a portion of it. I shall give the rest to the group to do as they wish. That is 1300z.>Withdraw the money from the bank.>Share it equally with everyone.
So uhh... I missed a lot at the end and I havent kept track on everyone I healed last thread or what to do here really... Halp?
>>42302051just track everyone you healed atleast once Meterios, and a second time if you revived them at different time (moved them up from 0 HP)
>>42302073I have to go through all the threads now then cause no one told me so I havent kept check at all... Newly awake atm so I am a bit confused by all this. I can still level up I guess? Do I start at level 0 or 1 btw?
>>42302092Lvl.1 You'll get a new ability from your list, or you can upgrade directly to an advanced class (but doing so means you can't grab any more base class skills)
>>42302102I am gonna stick to being a guide right now, feels like a good thing really. So its just picking up a new skill then?
>>42302121>I am gonna stick to being a guide right nowThis is the best choice. Because when you go to an advanced class you can no longer level your basic guide skills, you will have need of all 4 of them. Get to level 3 when you will have all 4 basic skills, then go Advanced.
>>42302153Provided you dont die in the meantime ^^;;
>>42302153basically my plan.so I will pick up Ward since it seemed to be needed a lot last map.[G6]MeteriosGuide lvl2!Equipped:Wand (lvl1, mag1, rng 3)Cloak (lvl1, Def1, Mag1)Bag: Hammer (lvl1)HP: 2/2 Mv: 3 ATK: 1 Def: 1+1Mag: 2+1+1 ACT: 2Abilities:Ward - NEW!CleansePulse
>>42302050Thank you Livia.Further deliberation results.The 4 NPCs are cut from all of this. The assumption being that they took their cut from the bounty for the floor entirely.We have 1300+1916+8000=11216Divided 22 ways is 509.818182.That's 509 a player. With 18 to spare. So Poka and Jackie both get 9z extra.There are still 3 bounties unaccounted for.>Scholar's Kill>The Mage/Hunter SE Combo, botted.>Burkhard's saving of [R1]Becky>>42302121Yep
So gonna have to check through all the threads now to see how many people I healed... Cause I did a lot of it.
Also what does those Guilds do?
>>42302051>So uhh... I missed a lot at the end and I havent kept track on everyone I healed last thread or what to do here really... Halp?The same happened to me when I was a fresh Guide. You will need to go back through all the threads and find all of you heals. It is a painful process, I know.In the future just keep a record as you are making the heals (I just keep track of them in a text file), it makes it so much easier at the end of the floor. And check posts if you get botted, so you don't miss any.>>42302207>I will pick up WardGood choice. I remember when you were brand new and confused. You've picked it up really quick.>>42302198>Provided you dont die in the meantimeWe are talking about a Guide, Guides rarely die. But yes every time you die you just have to climb that much higher.>>42302236>So gonna have to check through all the threads now to see how many people I healed... Cause I did a lot of it.Remember you only claim credit for each unique PC or NPC 1 time for healing and once for revive (heal at 0 (or less)HP).You should have a good total.
>>42302214We also have, potentially, 4 other squid/ghost kills>Velen Water Bolted a pair>A hunter killed severalOh, also given Burkhard's bounty, two other people should get it too.>A guide cleansed one of them off Velen's head>Whoever rescued G1 from being possessed, I believe V1, Becky.So the question is, do we get paid for killing the possessing ghosts -before- they possessed somebody?
does cleansing count for the bounty?
>>42302454It killed the possessing thing? So I assume so?
>>42302466So a killbounty then? of the 10z?
So uh, claiming a split with Jenny for a red skeleton and then claiming 2 skeletons of my own.So that should be about 25z extra for me.I think? Otherwise I can deal with only 20z seeing as I know for sure I got 2 skeletons.As for my total monies.Well that's up for debate as everyone is tossing their monies everywhere.
>>42302499Right now, I'm assuming killing a ghost by itself, is 10z.Killing it after it possessed somebody is 958 until Monday says otherwise.Anyway, I'm purchasing:>Stalkers with the intent to combine with my Chain to make them into a hook shot type weapon, able to pull me as easily as pull others to me. Or at least to let me climb.>Baton>1 ChainLeaves me with 209, which I bank for the time being.Final stats:[H] HetrosEquipped:-Hunting Chain(lvl1,2hnd,Rng3,Atk+1)-Overcoat (lvl1,Def+1,Atk+1)Bag:(1/4)Chain*3, (2/4)Pyros Aether Shard, (3/4) Baton, (4/4) StalkersStats:HP:2/2, Mv:4, ATK:4(2+1+1), DEF:2(1+1), MDEF:1, ACT:2Abilities:[Class]Drop Attacks give Atk+2, [H]Bloodlust, [H]Hook and Pull, [H]RigZenny:0Bank:239Capture Tally:-1 Shadow Weasel (in iron maiden with Slime captured by [H2] Owl)
What's this news about Volgon and Voidspawn?And what's that paper hidden by the exterminate/capture bounty?
for posterity sake
also question I dont get a share on the board of director thingy since I cleansed it into reality? xDNah it was just a silly thought ignore the question
>>42302628I think we all got that share, part of the 8000 even split.
>>42302628You get a share of 8000, we a re currently trying to do the accounting on any other money
>>42302566so I have counted the pulses I have done and if what you say is true with the 958 on cleanse kill of a ghost possesing someone then I get a total of... 1158z....Soooo... How do I combine things? plus a question... could I cast the heal ability with a gun? xD
>>42302686>>42302698allright ^^>>42302706Realise that is without the total reward if not hetros counted it in on the 958 >>42302566for me
>>42302706right now we're thinking there might not be a way to combine items because the schola isn't around.
>>42302706>I get a total of... 1158zNice> How do I combine things?We need a different NPC, one that did not show up this time>could I cast the heal ability with a guni dunno.
>>42302706>Soooo... How do I combine things? plus a question... could I cast the heal ability with a gun? xDprobably. Combine a wand and a gun. But we don't have that person local.
Voting for a nice relaxing ride on the airship
>>41992934Loot can be banked.
I'm torn between the two options. I abstain from voting for either, and will simply go with the majority vote.Before we choose though I'd like to know if we can do the relaxing trip first, blitz it to run up our Terminus Clock (literally our goal is to simply complete that level as quickly as possible), then go after the astral whale?
>>42302721>>42302725Allright questions for Monday then simply.
>>42302778Hetros did you count in the big share of 509z in the post here >>42302566Or do I get that 509 on top of my 1158?
>>42302820yes you should. And yes I did. I bought a chain, baton, and stalkers.And you can also choose to share that 958 amongst everybody else to spread out that money and increase everyone's total share.
>>42302835I am crazy... I am considering buying a gun and ammo... the wand is one handed right? that means I could get one of the pistols for the second hand right?
>>42302835>>42302856if there had been a nice melee weapon here for a more combaty guide then I would most likely gone for that.
>>42302856Actually yes it could. You could also sell or store your hammer to save space.
>>42302835Honestly I'd hold off on claiming the split bounties until it is all confirmed by Monday. Right now we can all spend the 8000z as we wish, but otherwise the money doesn't exist yet.>Claim Mask of the Forgotten from the Llama. >Claim 40z kill bounty from 4 kills. >Claim Void Abomination Kill>Throw Void Abomination kill bounty into the shared pot.[M] JackieLevel 3Equipped : The Last Word, Mask of the Forgotten, Vintage HatBag : Chalk, 4.5 x Cookies (two bites), Cursed HelmHP: 3/3 Mv: 3 ATK: 0 DEF: 0+1 MAG:4+2+2 ACT: 2 WORDS : 3Zenny : 50zBank : 630zPrepared spells: NONESkills : Ring, Arrow, BlockThe Last Word : Magic + 2, 3 Words, DarcBook of Iron : Magic + 2 : 2 Words, Iron
>>42302856>the wand is one handed right?Yes>that means I could get one of the pistols for the second hand right?Yes. Your Healing would still come from the wand in that scenario. So no deduction to your current healing abilities.
>>42302886>Cursed HelmYour bag is out of date
"A still more glorious dawn await us..."Poka has reached LEVEL 3 !![G4-Lvl.3] PokaHP: 2/2 Mv: 3 ATK: 1 DEF: 1 MDEF:3 MAG: 2 ACT: 2MHAND: Wand L1BAG: Hammer L1, Helmet & Shield from skeleton (possibly cursed)Skills: Pulse, Cleanse, Ward, Channel
>>42302949>Poka has reached LEVEL 3 !!Congratulations.Are you going to stay [G] or Advance?
Hm. 5x kills, 1x dead squid - 1008. Not a bad weeks work. Add 20 from services, 1028Did my gun-question get resolved? I can't find the other thread.
>>42302968>>42302949Poka, Khya... if you are willing I suggest advancing to Navigator and taking the Reversal spell now that you have all 4 guide abilities. Lost Ship proved the worth of that particular spell after all. I know this is presumptuous to ask, but we might need it desperately in the coming future. If you do ask Lost Ship however.... could I have your wand Poka? I am willing to pay of course.
Ah I had just gotten back from a fresh turnling's sleep so let's get started." In regards to the others who had recently joined us they don't expect payment from the Runner's Guild, in fact after talking it over Navigator would like to speak with us. "Last Ship: As your navigator I can't hope to lay claim on the Furiosa and her crew. However, It behooves me that for her first voyage I ask if everyone would be willing to join me on a hunt for a famed Astral Whale called Halifax. Myself and my cohort has been on the run to find it, and to slay it. To begin I shall start by introducing ourselves proper. " My name is Nezera formerly of the 20th Ignylian Crusade and Harpoon is- "Slayer: "Call me Ishmael. I belong to no house nor wing, for Halifax doth consumed them wholly not unlike the Mal. And it shall attempt to do so again as if possessed by a petty motive to meddle in human affairs." Questi: Creatures like the Astral Whale tend to keep to themselves in the sky meddling with other Astral affairs like moving whole planets or shifting entire stars. But this one specifically seems to have it out for Runners and Terminus Crystals, which is wholly uncharacteristic for a creature that size. Ishmael: And should it be permitted to rampage another cycle we predict that another town could get eaten in about a dozen floors or less. Nezera : But ulimately you are free to choose, any actions you take towards the preparation and slaying of Halifax will be compensated by the Skyward order. This you have my assurance on. With that I do believe we are waiting for a certain airship pilot to arrive...
Also healers don't forget to fill out your savior's receipts after taking account of all the people that lived because of your heals and decurses.So far my recounting includesSavior's receipt Poka[H3] Hawk[I1] Trigger[K1] Jenny[M3] Golbez[M6] Meave[G1] Gilda[K2]Armstrong[H4] Livia[M5] Velen
Dumping some art, I will do a stream later today and hopefully do some custom character art for the veteran members.>>42303040>>42302968I have not yet decided. I would rather go Scholar if there is only Navigator and Scholar is available but as I mentioned I am not very intrigued by either of them.Right now I need to get some items created but it seems only the Gunsmiths' shop is open.
>>42303066I am honestly up for helping you guys out. We have now had an adventure together and I consider you my companions as much as anyone else amonst us. I will bow down to our groups majority though, know that I wish to aid you in your hunt for this Halifax you speak of."
"I vote to help Nezera, Ishmael and Questi. Without them here a great deal more of us would be dead.">Level to level 3, choosing ground slash. >Claim 4 kills>pack away probably cursed helmet and Knights Shield>Sell Raiders Axe>Ask Ishmael if I could advance to Slayer.[K] JennyLevel : 3Equipped: Raider's AxeBag: Jerky x 4.5, Crystals from LanternReap, Level 2 Acronaut Helm, Level 2 Knight ShieldATK 2 DEF 1 MOV 3MAG 1ACT 2HP 4Skills: Counter, Spin Slash, Shield Bash, Ground SlashZenny : 60zBank : 400zRaiders AxeRequires 2 StrengthATK +2Knights ShieldLevel 2DEF + 3Acronaut HelmDef +2Prevents Destruction
>>42303079ah shit I need to do that?... uuh I removed my notes I made when counting togher all the money I got...
>>42303066==Event: The Information shop is now open==Any official actions your character would like to perform must be done so as a green arrow. That goes double for asking the infoshop questions. However if there are questions you are wholly uncertain of, myself or Flooria may be able to field them. . . Any official actions taken by the whole party would rest on the Party Leader's shoulders,Poka, do you wish to take that on ? "
>>42303118I would prefer to relinquish my position next Floor but for now I can fulfill that.
>>42303113>Raider's Axe: The Llama will take that off your hands for a 250z.Ishmael: " Hah that's the spirit, let's get the fine crew of the Furiosa her first Slayer. I hope you ate lunch before asking me. *glare* "
>>42303117I don't know if you need to do that I am just kinda roleplaying...More art, Mage preparing a spell
>>42303066I vote to aid you in your hunt. >>42303118I take that mean any bounty claiming previously done must be repeated then. Alright. Here goes.>Claim Mask of the Forgotten from the Llama. >Claim 40z kill bounty from 4 kills. >Claim Void Abomination Kill>Throw Void Abomination kill bounty into the shared pot.>>42303144I am willing to take up that burden.
>>42303156Would you care to share some Jerky?
>>42303177>I am willing to take up that burden.Very well, consider yourself Party leader next Floor.more art, and some more to come later...
"You helped us. We help you. I'm all up for hunting a whale that shifts stars and eats towns.It'll practically a vacation!">claim squid bounty, claim 5x kills>ask if using the info shop is a monetary, payment for info transaction?
>>42303066 Is there any upkeep or upgrading that can or needs to be done for Furiosa? I recall the mention of warding the ship properly. Can that be done? I also have my starter book that needs to be identified.
>>42303177The Honest Llama sees you and before you could say anything gives you the [Mask of the Forgotten] to claim. Before needing an explanation, it goes back to selling things. > Mask of the Forgotten. Lvl1+2Mag, +1Hp Darc Immunity
>>42303219The Info shop answers a question and follows up with more questions that need answering. Be careful what you get into. [100 a pop will drain you just like that.]
>>42303219 Trigger, Hetros suggested that we ID the notes you obtained, gauge their value to us, and possibly sell it to the information brokers.
>>42303164you mean I rechecked everything for naught? *cries in a corner*
Let me recount my financesFrom my saviors recepit this floor I have 270 Zeny I did not count Harpoon, Questi and Ship.I also had 900 Zeny in Llama bank with +5% interest that is 945 Zeny.What is our common bounty for the last floor?>>42303237how much does info Cost?
>>42303118>I would like to turn in a live Void Abomination for bounty. Note that it was different in that it had a single eye. >Rescuing of Jenny. 50z.>Give 100z to Moore. Refuse to take it back>Split 1300 of that bounty to the party>>42301346Bought some things.Livia--||--HP: 2/2 Mov: 4 Atk: 2+2+1Def: 1+1 Mag: 1 Act: 2--Chain BladesAtk+1, Range 3OvercoatAtk+1, Def+1--10 Chains, 1 Hunter Bomb, Slayer, 1 Iron Maiden [VOID ABOMINATION - 1 EYE]--#Hook and Pull#Suspension#Rig--||--Zenni : 60z
>>42303237Curse the dread curiosity traps that forever haunts us.>>42303244And the Old Gamma box the Scifax had, along with a single Eye of Eld.The notes probably go with the box.
>Pay 100z for information on my new... condition.
so... how to do this...does the snub - 3, fire 2 bullets in one action or able to fire two times in one turn?
Alright, 568 for stuff, I shot two of the horrible squid bastards I think that is 196 unless it means shooting the full sized buggers, and 30 zenny from general murderating, of yes and 32.5 from llama back interest...828.5 in cash, I could save this to be frisk but.>Sprint to the Volgon DMZ>Slam wages on the tableI'll take 1 of everything. No I tell a lie I'm looking for something to make things explode from a distance what would you recommend Sir?>Invader or Old Hunter
>>42303318Both. It has two loads of two.
>>42303318plus could you load it with two different bullets for the duo shot if that is how it works?
>>42303259>you mean I rechecked everything for naught?No you need to know the total to get paid, you just don't need to RP it if you don't want to.
>>42303328Can you ask them what the Loon Hairpin you picked up is?yay triple post
so 1158z cash>buy Snub-3>buy Happy Bday>buy Iron Dropleaves me at 148z left.I guess banking it would be good?
>>42303333Allow me to summarize my feelings - "guuuuuuuuunnnsssss"It depends on how you read the split line, I guess.
>>42303373I mean, now I actually can help killing things, which was something I almost cried a bit about last turn. Ofcourse I will heal people first of all. But it will be nice to have this alternative I think
>>42303066Questi, do you believe there will be crystal deposits there to mine when we hunt? I am deliberating whether I should take my Crystal Mining pick or store it.
Will the skyward order give us time to run up our terminus clock and then meet up with them again? If so I think we should do the level 1 area, specifically to speed run it, then use those extra turns to help them kill the astral whale. That's my two cents. Your call guys, if it's even possible.
>>42303391>As in "get one, stop burming yourself to death so I have to save you all the time?"Well a little. It also looks like a kick ass gun.>But I like being rescued. Its cozy.uh huh> I have a piece of unstable Magi-TekYou could make this one unstable too.
>>42303299>condition" Oooooh ? You're the second person to come here with that. Are you also going to turn yourself in ? No ? Well what you have there is a White Ghoul's Curse. It's bad. There's no cure. Lucky for you a White Ghoul is not so problematic in fact it could be advantageous if you decide to /feed it/. Yes.... I'm starting to see now.. You were with Graves.. and he's turned himself in to offer his services awhile so he can learn more about his... condition. So I'll tell you what I told him. The taste of devouring creatures is the absolute best, driven by the insatiable bloodlust of space-faring monsters. -You will no longer recover from healing spells it starts to hurt you. [Darc] spells on the other hand will cure you. Eating will always be there, so long as its meat. -This doesnt seem to affect the quality of one's magic. Even if they're healers.-Another thing is that a ghoul's body never seems to decay or destroy it makes sense that an elderitch host would alter the bodies of their possessed to suit their needs. But like everything else undead, fire will always work. If you wish to learn more, why dont you ask your friend about it when he returns~ > You Pay 100z
I have to go for a bit but be back.Also Is only the Gunsmith's shop open? Like I wished to visit pumpkin Jill because I didn't have the opportunity last thread.
>>42303402As in "get one, stop burming yourself to death so I have to save you all the time?"But I like being rescued. Its cozy. Thanks for the save(s).> I have a piece of unstable Magi-Tek - it's still a very useful fire spewing gun with only minor side-effects. Does anyone want to buy the Smouldering Gun if I sell it?
>>42303118>claim 9 kills>claim 3 escorts>claim two void abomination kills>give all void abomination bounty from void abomination kills to be split evenly amongst the party.>buy 1chain>buy baton>buy stalkers>sell pyros shard for 300>sell shadow weasel to blood market for Z>check price at blood market for slime for Owl
>>42303318Armistan:Ahh the Snub-3. Because one bullet aint enough to kill most things you'll need TWO. and it fires it both at the same time Krakow ! 2 Shots. For One. Seems expensive no ? Why dont you come back and say that to me when these bad boys save your life in a cornered situation. [Snub-3s]Ammo: 2/2 , means they load 2 rounds. But fire both. I should have probably written it as 2/1, really. But then that would just equal to 2.0 Sorry can't unlearn glorious Volgon math there buddy. It loads two rounds but they have to be the same. Something about the manual saying two differential bullet types cause pressure cracking in the barrels. You can do it. But its a 750 zenny "do it "
>>42303427>Thanks for the save(s)No problem.As for the guns do what you think is best.
Oh yes thanks for reminding me Khya>Get an evaluation on my Ghoul Arm and Qloon Hairpin.
>>42303429Sorry, 7 kills, since the two void born count I'm sure.Two of my kills are split so give 5z to trigger, and 5z to M5 from the last thread
>>42303118Say, Scholar? Is it possible for me to combine 2 Iron Maidens and 1 of my Chains together?
>>42303447Can we combine equipment here? Mundane equipment only I mean? Like stalker with hunter's chain to get a hook shot style pull other/pull self style hunter's chain? (Maybe with boosted damage from more pointy bits?)
>>42303420It seems the Scholomance isn't open this floor. But we'll definitely get to see them again after floor 3. Since we should be coming up to a town after that.... Lantern reaps aside. >Town floors happen every 4th floor. For the purposes of stability Lantern Reap is counted as Floor 1 even though it was a town floor technically.
>>42303489So no combing equipment? Even mundane equipment?
>>42303476Armistan: Maybe ? Not really. You'd need the Clinic or the Order to be able to do fancy weaponsmithings I just sell the damn things, brother. But hey I see you folks got some crystals. I sell, trade, buy those.
>>42303505>sell 1 pyros shard, the go to blood market and sell shadow weasel, and price check slime for owlI'll let others decide to sell it or not and free up the iron maidens.If the slime and shadow weasel combine or one ate the other being in the same iron maiden, then evenly split the sell price between myself and owl.
>>42303489As an extension to this. Guild presence is interspersed. Factional conflicts and supply lines you see. And town floors may only feature 4-5 guilds at a time and depending on who they serve, maybe less. It usually less.
"I need some sleep. But first I have to see to what I picked up.">Do I keep the +1 magic from the encounter with the Board of Education?>Evaluate the crystals I found in those crates.>Store in bank shield and helm. Updated Sheet to Slayer. Not counting shared bounty just yet as the amount seems to be up in the air.[S] JennyLevel : 3Equipped: Slayer's Armor, Slayer's SpearBag: Jerky x 4, Crystals from LanternReapATK 3 + Slayers Spear 2 + Slayers Helm + 1 : 6DEF 1 + Slayers Helm 2 + Slayers Spear + 1 : 4MOV 3MAG 0ACT 2HP 5Skills: Counter, Spin Slash, Shield Bash, Ground Slash, JumpZenny : 270zBank : 400z, Armor Level 2 Acronaut Helm, Level 2 Knight Shield
>>42303524Armistan: Here ya go buddy. Straight to market and out through my pocket. 300 Zenny. Ms. Red: A shadow weasel... how very lovely. Yes their contortionist ability will be very sought after. >Gain 800 Zenny. " As for that slime... maybe we can sell it for face cream or something.... or human solvent... or toilet water.... "> It's worth like 80.
>>42303541Yes that is permanent. You lose Aethernumb as a sideeffect. The crates seem to contain a cache of crystals It seems like an engineer from the Skyward WOrkshop would be able to look at them however. >The llama takes your stuff and swallows it whole. He's got you.
>>42303556Perhaps you can render it down for is gelatin and start a gourmet pudding company
>>42303556Going to keep the slime then. Owl. You can hold onto my iron maiden for the time being alright? It can store the slime. Maybe schola will pay more for it?
>>42303566Will I also always be.... rainbow?
>>42303566Oh! Can we invest in the curiosa to improve it?How much would it cost to get a half naked lady with battle scars and a robot arm painted onto the side
>>42303581That is kind of sad, it would be nice to see Jenny the Rainbow do stuff.
>>42303578And a half naked battle scarred dude with a magi tech/runic arm on the other side?
>>42303581>Can we completely ward the Furiosa as was mentioned a while back?>I would like to ID my starter book, please
>>42303556Oh forgot to ask. What are they offering for the severed hand of the [board of education]
>>42303623>Also, will pay 100z for more information on the Furiosa
Given my question was answered. >Claim 9 kills>Pay the 100z I owe>Store the Sensor Mines in the Bank>Approach the Volgon about acquiring an ammo pouch.[R] BeckyLevel : 3Equipped : Science Crowbar, Snub, Unibomber JacketBag (3/6) : Firebats x3, Crystal Pick, Dumbo Rounds x 7HP: 3/3 Mv: 3 ATK: 3 DEF: 1 MDEF:1 ACT: 3Skills : Throw weapon, Steal, Back StabZenny : 20z (after paying)Bank : 315z, Sensor Bombs x 5
>>42303617Can I pay 200 for two questions?>the names of all the guilds that the classes are organized into, and their general descriptions>the names for all the advanced classes
>>42303656I'd pay another 100 for the positions of each named advanced class.>If I am able to do these things, I pay for them
>>42303617>Can you tell me anything about the Loon Hairpin?
>>42303447Question then! Does I have to spend two actions to reload two bullets or one since its double barreled?
>>42303585It would be the most beautiful thing. >>42303654Becky - exchange 3 Dumbo Shells for 8 of these contra shot ( 5 dmg )? And how much for 3x of those mines? I tend to fall behind anyway.
>>42303829I can agree to that trade. As for the Sensor Mines? I honestly have no idea. I do want to keep them however I think I should keep them myself for human enemies, where I can... appropriate a disguise should I need it and then lay them as traps in enemy territory. Which has limited applicability when we're going to go fight a whale.
That reminds me. I think there is a clear consensus on to hunt the whale and thus.>Take 40z from the Bank>Pay 100z for information on the Observatory
>>42303876>>42303654... oh. Oops I thought we were going to hunt the whale right away. I guess I should cancel putting those mines away then. >Take the Sensor Bombs back out of the Bank>Put the Crystal Mining Pick in the Bank instead
>>42303876A reasonable exchange! Let's shake on it.( please don't eat my fingers )
>>42303973>shakes on it, then gives Trigger the bullets."Perhaps I should buy some Jerky. I am feeling a bit peckish."
>>42303617Awww shoot... I guess I'm stuck with the starter gear again with a helmet and shield I also can't use.
Poka visiting the Llama shop.I am going to start stream and hopefully draw custom art of veteran characters.https://picarto.tv/TheSleeperChannel
>>42304142 Nice pic!
>>42303985"That does sound delicious, you lovable unholy abomination against everything. Let's get you a snack next floor too! So, err. What's being dead l-like?">>42304142That still looks adorably cute. Rich and powerful in the world of business indeed. Awww. All the art in these treads make me want to practice more.--->Ask about bounty for a dead blood mage. We can confirm the demise of 1, diminishing the legacy of LanternReap.>Acquire kill bounties (1028 total)>Acquire 1/26th split of 8000 (307)-> Total 1335z>Advance to Lvl 3, acquire #Packed Shot, fill out militia class!-->Visit [Volgon DMZ]Hey Armistan, I've got a bit of a magi-tech accident and fouled up me gun. I know you can fix it, yeah, but how badly did I wreck it?>Evaluate market value of [Smouldering Gun]>Evaluate market value of [Blue Eye of Eld]-->Visit [Blood Market]>Ask Info Shop about [Old Notes] and the research? (-100)>Ask Info Shop about [Old Gamma Box] and usage? (-100)-->Settle debt with Hint_Scholar along with [M4] Coffee (-100)-->1025z--II--HP: 4/4 Mov: 3 Atk: 1Def: 0+1 Mag: 1+1 Act: 2--Smouldering GUN Range: 3 Ammo: 1/1 Atk: +1, Mag+1 - + Fire/Pyro Align--Iron Drop (4AP Dmg): x7Salamander Rounds (5fire cross AoE) x4DumboRounds (6 dmg, square aoe, heavy knockback) x3--4xBread, Old Notes, Old Gamma Box, Blue Eye of Eld--# Firing Solution# Spreadshot# Friendly Fire# Packe Shot--II--
>>42304142Nice pic Poka, really like it. I might check out the channel later. On my way! To a friends place to play some simple boardgames
>Regale the Runner's Guild of the tale of how I, the noob militia, was able to stare down an eldritch abomination (with the help of my senpai, of course!) and throw a canteen of llama water at the face of the Board of Education, thus bringing it into this physical realm and allowing my comrades to destroy it!>Also regale the tale of how Hunter Two'wan Actual fell in the line of duty attempting to scout out the enemy positions using his lantern on a chain blade."Poor Two'wan senpai. After he got shot in the face, his body exploded into a billion pieces."Llama Bank: 430z (5% interest gained!)307z gained!>Level 2?>Picking up Friendly Fire skill
>>42304330>All the art in these treads make me want to practice more. Du eeeet!
[M] Level 3Hp : 2/2Atk : 0Def : 0+1Mov : 3Act : 2Mag : 4+1Skills : Ball, Block, Ring, ArrowGear:Lv1 Book of Tera (Mag1, Word2)Lv1 Mask (+1 Mag, +1 Def)Bag:-Chalk-Book of Fire-Iron MaidenGold : 690z>Gold is set to 710 after calculating 5% increase on previous amount *and* paying off the 200$ tip on the last floor to mysterious quest person. Also adding in kills>Attempt to combine book of earth and fire, hopefully to get magma or something.
I would also like to send out a call to our other friendly runners who have too much materials in their backpack to carry anything else that I'm offering to buy some things as I seek to make tests on my masks and other experiences.
>>42305086Already counted that in my math my good chap, thank you! I meant my 100 share of the 200 tip.
Alright let's do this again, but with stats and shit, make it official, get it noticed. And also so I can make sure I am doing my maths right.>PAYDAY>568 mission splittings>PLUS 30 zenny for general murdering of at least 3 things, plus an assist on the Ghoul is that counts for anything>PLUS 32.5 Llama bank interest>PLUS 958 at least once for killing horrible eldritch parasites. I need some clarification on whether killing them before they take a host counts because if it does that amount is doubled because I can confirm kills on two.>PLUS 650 Zenny already banked>EQUALS at least 2286.5 Zenny.EXPENDATURES>Hit up the Volgan DMZ>Buy the Invader - 1080>Buy 2 lots of Happy Bday ammo, - 180>Buy some Iron Drops - 80>Get some evaluation on my Qrloo Hairpin and Ghoul Arm.>718.5 Zenny left over>Hit up the Llama Shop>Buy some Llama Water - 10>Bank the remaining - 708.5HP: 4/4 Mov: 3 Atk: 1Def: 1 Mag: 1 Act: 23 x Breads, 1x Binoculars, 1x Molotovs, 5x Llama Water (Pending)LOOT1x Qrloo Hairpin1x Ghoul ArmGUN Range: 4 Ammo: 1/1 Atk: 1+ - Salamander Round +1 Dmg--Iron Drop (4AP Dmg): 8/10 (Pending +10)Contra Bullets (5 Dmg): 8/10Iron Kisses (5 Dmg): 25/25Salamander Round (5 Fire Cross AOE) : 1/1Happy Birthday (4 Crush, 5 AOE) : 20/20 (Pending)# Firing Solution# Packed Round# Friendly Fire# Spread Shot
Drew Pumpkin Jill
Not to be a bother, but could anyone lend me 50 Gp? I would love to buy those claws and I'm a tiny bit short!
>>423053348000/22 = 367 (Ishmael, Nezera, Questi declined reward)You rescued Graves = 50407, price = 350 --> you're up 57
>>42303656Hmmm The guilds currently in power.. off the top of my head are. [The Skyward Order] Is a rather zealous religious order that was leftover from the remnants of the defeated [Ignyllian Star Forces]who uses aethercrafts to sail the stars in order to escape the Malebolgia. Vaunted as our best chance at fighting against Humanity's threats and indeed our ever watchful guardian if we are to stray too far from the path of the stairs. [The Volgon Army] Currently the longest thriving civilization on recordto still remain functional after the Malebolgia hit. It is said that they hold the keys to a time before the Malebolgia happened but her technocratic leaders have stayed on the path of conservative industrialism, using millitary and science to hoard resources and power their War-Machines. However because their presence is so vast, it becomes hard to determine what their true intentions or purpose truly is anymore below their command levels. And thus Militia men who were graced with their better hands have sought to ascend the ranks of this timeless nation no doubt to strike it reach or seek out the truth of our times. [The 13th Chapter of Scholomance] Ever since the fall of the 11th Chapter and the failed expedition of the 12th Chapter into the Malebolgia the 13 Order of the Scholomance was rebuilt by her immortal caretakers in the heart of the Crystal Corridors whose halls and libraries continue to collect dust and books so ancient, one could engage in conversation with their grandchildren through spirited notes. And thus Mages and even inquisitive Guides find a home here among the resident Scholars.[Shiraiya Clinic] Funded jointly by the Scifax of the old Volgon Technocracy and the mortal counterparts of the Scholomance, Shiraiya Clinic delves in the extermination and mitigation of monstrous threats in the name of survival. It is rumoured that their projects on the evolution of humans focuses on survival in the Mal.>1/2 [House of M]
>>42305536[Red Street] - Employs the services of many a derring dos in what is considered the "free-est" of factions, composed of various small runner groups and strong ties with the Qrloon trade federation. [Yours truly] acts as one of many arms of information, trade, and acquisition. For this we rely on [Rogues] and [Hunters] both to get the people and goods that we need for a job or a client. You wish to file a [Request] for people[s] and item's ? We don't come cheap. The House of M- Not much is known of this group. That is.. not for the price you're giving me. All I'll tell you is that Famed Hunters, Rogues, and even Mages are said to make their way to this grow only to never be heard from [again].
>>42303656>Advance Class" I know not what you speak of.. Jobs ? Specialists ? There's a lot to name about as many as there are planets that Mal has eaten. If you're speaking of high profile jobs amongs the Skyward Order there's more than a dozen notable ones. And in the Volgon Army, countless warrior nations and fighting units both extant and forgotten line the floors with blood. " Sorry dear but this simply too big an order for me to fill. ">100 Returned.
>>42303820Simply one action, the SNub-3 is designed for seamless hand actions just slap and flick and it's done ! > It takes one load action to fill the SNUB-3. > In terms of damage it's counted as two seperate shots, however the effects of a Load Action apply for both.
>>42303926The Twilight Observatory. Yes 1 part mage tower. 2 parts starlit nightmare. Located out in the middle of an ocean field it's only accessible via Airship. However the last supply run to make it back from there was well over a year ago. And the supplies themselves had been something of a hoard. No one left from there since. The Observatory as you can imagine observes celestial bodies but vested [Interest] in the research has caused many clients to flock to the ocean for it. Did they all wish to find the whale ? Or perhaps gaze longingly onto the distant stars untouched by the mal. T'would be a sight to behold I'm sure. ..
Having undertaken the perilous task of plumbing the depths of Monday's mind I return with answers regarding character level.Characters start a level 1. Players new to the game get two skills. If you die you go back to level 1 and you get 1 skill.Character level is determined entirely by the number of floors you have beaten.This means a level 3 character can have 3 or 4 skills depending on whether or not that player has died.
>Paying 100 zeny on information on Astral creatures in general.
>>42305768So water and lux magic is going to be prevalent if the Mages are still around. Astral creatures, oceanic monstrosities.... and of course undead from those who came and never returned.Sounds fun. Hey! Maybe my Lost Word will be useful instead of accidentally releasing horrors! >>42305975Good to have confirmation. I believe however dying makes you lose 1 skill and 1 level. With a minimum of level 1, and 1 skill. Not that it completely resets you at level 1 with 1 skill. It is to make it so death has consequences, but not to completely screw over long term players both with equipment loss and skill loss.
>>42306054intereting but no if you die you're docked back to 1 if you were at 1 and died you're docked back to a literal one skiller.because you're doing the thing where you're dying over and over again and stop it.Was the answer I got when I said the same thing. There is no go, there is no 200 dollars. You go to 1.Death is a bitch. Don't do it.
Registering my pay>380 cut for boss kill>10 for killing swarmy rat things>390 total
>>42306116Then I just don't see the point in the skill loss mechanic at all if its not a way to at least preserve some progress as you play these games. It... doesn't make sense to me to have it that way. Its counter-intuitive, promotes abandoning trips on death for a completely new character and simply isn't fun. >>42303489I have to ask the reason behind that particular mechanic if Monday is willing to tell us.
>Inquire as to if bounties can be claimed on squids that hadn't possessed people yet.>If they can, claim my 1916z>Inquire at Info Shop about Airships and supplying one. -100z
It looks like no one else is willing to share the bounties they had. So I guess I'll claim my portion of the shared reward. >Claim 553z>Buy Stalkers>Buy 4x minibombs
>>42306580Oh. Really? I was waiting for information on >>42304330 to see how much I might be able to share in total.Well, 380 (8000:21) to everyone isn't a bad baseline. Then personal things from there.
>>42306005>About Astral Creatures: From The Scholomance Deep Libraries. One of the many prevailing features of the Mal has been its ability to alter the phase space in our Universe. Having consumed many worlds and "recreated" them as recursive tower Floors the destruction left in its wake consumed all but one resident. Astral Creatures. Having the ability to traverse and live in the Outer Wall, these creatures bearing a size comparable to Floors paint the constellations in our skies where fixed Stars used to be. Indeed [Monster Signs] as we would like to call them had been the result of these celestial beings presiding over the Mal for time eternal watching powerlessly as the Universe is consumed. Astral creatures bear the common quality of not only living in space but also occupying their own dimensional space, as such their presence in the Astra allows them to be accessible via magic or wormholes in our plane to theirs. The Scholomance have compiled various Astrals under these categories:[Faeries] - Those who subsist on Thought[Outsiders] - Those who subsist on Nothing[Celestials] - Those who subsist on Name[Giants] - Those who subsist on Aether
Poka has two pieces of armor from the last Floor but currently there is no use for them.>>[I] Trigger requested to borrow the shield for Next floor.>Transfer shield to [I]TriggerStill have one helmet remaining to trade.
>>42303118>Claim 25z in kills>2 Skeletons>Split 1 Red Skeleton with Jenny>How would a [Fire] spell interact with a [Darc] book? And vice versa?>What's the awful news about?>I vote for slaying the whale>Grudgingly gain 100z from Livia>Gain 363z from the 8000 split (22 ways?)>Gain 25z from previous mentioned kill claim>Gain 59z from bounty split (22 ways?)>Buy the Llama Water combo pack for 10z>Store the money in the bank.[M] Moore Lv. 2::Stats::> HP 2/2, DEF 0+1, MAG 4+1> ACT 2, MOV 3, ATK 0::Equipment::> Main: Book of Darc, Gear: Mask> Bag: Chalk, Book of Fire, x5 Llama Water::Words::> Arrow, Ball, Block::Zeny::> Carried: 0> Banked: 537
>>42300312>>42302592Hey, hang on a second here was it 50 Zeny per salvation or 30 Zeny?I counted with 30 Zeny for this floor.
>>42306901>Can you tell me anything about Loon Hairpin?>Eye of Eld, ever hear of it?>place 200z on table
I know it's probably too late, but can another player join?
>>42307004Go ahead, but you'll start with 0 money.Two skill and the gear you get from starting classes image.The naming convention is[Class] Name #tripcodeClass is the  designation of your class in the pictureName is your character's nameTripcode is your usernameIf someone knows your tripcode they can access your bank.
>>42306445I'm pretty sure you just lose one skill, not go all the way down to one skill.
>>42307004>>42307004Please pic ka name with a tripcode.Please keep it in mind that this is a preparation thread so you as a new person will probably not have much to do yet. With zero money you can't shop for items unless someone donates money to you.Also we do not know the next thread will be so we will have just wait, which could be a whole week or more.
>>42306901Oh. So gargantuan remnants of extinguished worlds floating through the Wall-space and ruling their own pocket dimensions.And for kicks, they move planets. And we're going to assault one. They did say back in Volgon basic that we'd reach grand heights and see fine sights.
>>42307060I thought the same. Armstrong is saying Monday said nope. Lose everything. It is honestly a bit befuddling to me as to why exactly.
>>42307102>It is honestly a bit befuddling to me as to why exactly.It's a game about progress and loss, you climb up and are knocked down, then climb up again.Your playing to pretty much see how many all or nothing bets you can win in a row
>>42307031Cool, thanks [N7]Khya !eoBgC/NQRg 09/04/15(Fri)21:32:31 No.42300366▶I miss Pumpkin Jill[N]Khya Lv3HP: 4/4 MV: 3 ACT: 2 ATK: 1+1 DEF: 1 MAG: 1Main hand: Lvl 1- 2hands Blunderbuss( Range 4, Ammo 1, ATK +1Ammo: Irondrop. Damage: 4APGear: Lvl 1 Uniform( +1 Defense, +1 Health(Bag: Canteen x2, Binoculars, Molotov CocktailLlama Bank: 0zSkills: Friendly Fire, Firing SolutionThink i got that all right.
>>42304330>Blood Mage death confirmed.[Smouldering Gun]- "Exotic, Dangerous. I believe I'll buy that from you~ " [600z][Eye of Eld] -" Exotic , Dangerous... ANCIENT ! Ohohohoh you found diamonds in these eyes I believe I'll get a lot out of the Science boys in the Clinic with this ~ " [2000z for each]Blood Market=The Old Notes from the Kismet:Hmmmm it seems that these notes are extemely detailed in Scifax's process onboard. To begin with, the Kismet was a Vosskon airship specializing in freight and supplies. However the notes says otherwise indicating that it became a lab, using the crystals on board to jury rig a terminus crystal-like effect. However things didn't go to plan and her crew suffered a fate worse than death. Their existence had sped up to a speed faster than light so much so that the very concept of looking at them hurted them. Performing physical actions meant doing procedural tasks hours in length to harvest an action only a second long. But the good doctor there developed another work around, one in which his people would conquer the ennui of time using timeless bodies- yes the Ghouls you saw harvested from the control tanks on the ship. In a way a miniature paradise truly did develop but like any town, they meet hteir ultimate end with the Mal. Bless their souls. The notes seem to be written for the benefit of those who came upon them. The volumes are thick, engraved in no less than a 1000 layers of algorithmic runic. All of them detailing instructions for wondrous technologies including case studies but with our current tools nothing short of a Volgon scientist could make heads or tails of these notes. If you wish I can get these notes circulated to a friend of mine, rendering the information on it "Free" but would essentially grant you favor with the Volgons or Shirai Clinic. 6000z for that.The Gamma however, was said to contain a special creature capable shifting the phase plane much like a Terminus crystal would. 1000 good ?
>>42307129Eh... all for nothing is a suckers game. Gambling is all about hedging your bets and mitigating loses. Only people who have nothing to lose bet it all. If a person dies they should be punished for it yes! Absolutely. But to lose absolutely everything as well as taking a hefty penalty to a new character?I just don't see the point... like I said before. It is actively punishing your players for playing long term instead of simply grabbing a new character each time.
>>42307188Close, but it's only the letter in the picture that is encased by the brackets.See how [M]age is depicted as such?So [Militia] would actually be [I]As for stats gained from weapons you don't need to add them up into your main stat block.This is because sometimes people will be switching weapons a lot mid combat so it becomes bothersome to track weapon stats all the time.
>>42307188Your DEF stat should also look like DEF: 0+1The +1 being gained from the armor.You can look at my stat block for reference if it helps.::Stats::> HP 2/2, DEF 0+1, MAG 4+1> ACT 2, MOV 3, ATK 0::Equipment::> Main: Book of Darc, Gear: Mask> Bag: Chalk, Book of Fire, x5 Llama Water::Words::> Arrow, Ball, Block::Zeny::> Carried: 0> Banked: 537
>>42307245Ah, okay. [I] Jonoh Lvl 1HP: 4/4 MV: 3 ACT: 2 ATK: 1 DEF: 1 MAG: 1Main hand: Lvl 1- 2hands Blunderbuss( Range 4, Ammo 1, ATK +1Ammo: Irondrop. Damage: 4APGear: Lvl 1 Uniform( +1 Defense, +1 Health(Bag: Canteen x2, Binoculars, Molotov CocktailLlama Bank: 0zSkills: Friendly Fire, Firing Solution
>>42306905Could I use the helmet? If I can then I would want it. I am gonna see a lot more frontline action cause I will pick up that Buck-3
>>42307341What is the Buck-3?
>register 3 heal bounty so I have 50 less of a total then I thought but its still fine >Visiting Volgon DMZ>Buy Snub-3>Buy Happy bday ammo>Buy Iron DropsThat leaves me at... 98z left.
>>42307206That penalty is only if you reuse your name.If you restart with a new character, well... it's a completely new character with two skills.People get attached to their characters. This is a weird mechanism to allow people to keep them, in a sense.
>>42307353Rather, 0+1.It's displayed as Base + GearMy gear, the mask, gives me +1 MAG and +1 DEFSo my DEF and MAG appear as:0+1 and 4+1 respectively.
>>42307392Double barreled onehanded pistol
>>42307392I meant snub-3
>>42307419Oh, I don't stay attached to characters.I remember my very first death in DnD.My friend was devastated both in game and out of game. I didn't mind though.Death is death.
>>42306983Pull 100z off table>what can you tell me of the Loon, why does it wear the Hairpin?I am truly sorry>100z remains on table
>>42307446>>42307466Oh your mean the Snub-3, Well since I cannot use it for the item fusion I can lend it to you for the Next floor, if you wish to buy it then we need to agree on a price.
>>42307478Rule #1 of Monday's games: Don't get attached to your characters.Rule #2 of Monday's games: assume you will die. It's up to you whether it will be inglorious of if you go out like a hero.Rule #3: Assume Monday's out to get you.Rule #4: If you don't know, ask.Rule #4a: If you really want to know, try in-game. That'll give you faster results.
>>42307540I'm a level 3 character, and I've maxed out the Hunter Class.As such, I have the benefits of being a more valuable asset, and therefore more likely to be protected.Of course, now that I've said this, I'm probably going to die on the next floor.
>>42307591Hey, you only die when your [Luck] runs out!
>>42307591>I'm probably going to die on the next floor.Not if you are close to me you won't.
Lets get to stabbing shall we?[R2] Varian Level 2Stats: HP : 2/2, Atk: 2, Act: 3, Def: 0 +1, Mov: 3, Mag: 1Equip: MainH: Snub-02 ( Salamander Shot loaded ), Gear : Prisoner Clothes lv0 +1 def, OffH : Stalkers +2 atk, Fast ClimbItems: 3x lv 1 daggers, 2x Keys, 1x Bomb, Iron Drop x10Skills:[Steal] [Weapon Throw] [Back Attack]Zenny: 138z Banked
>>42307624I'm truly touched, Khya.I am at your service.
>>42307502What is the stats for it? Depending on that I might actually be interested in buying it from you
>>42307202My sweet, shining starlight! This explains the tanks and the bodies and the ghosts and everything! So that's what they were doing. Maybe they could save someonr if people knew.We should share this with everyone who wants a peak. Lives are at stake! Is it 6000z, a favor and circulation or 6000 OR a favor ( + circulation )?
>>42307820You can see the stats on the picture.
"Alright children. Now that all the excitement is over which one of you wants to see an interesting trick from an old runner?"[K2] ArmstrongEquipped: Armor, Shield, SwordBag: Knightly shieldZeny: 390ATK 2 + 2 SwordDEF 1+ 2 armor +2 ShieldMOV 2ACT 2HP 4/3MDEF: 0Skills: Counter
>>42308504"Me, mister Armstrong sir!"
>>42308567>Give Trigger Knightly Shield>Give Trigger 390Z>Disappear in a poof of smoke
=Ruling on Deaths are now adjusted.=Upon Character Death. > You may [Respawn] with an "Inheritor" character with 1 Skill at level 1 but is essentially a new Runner or the famed [Paradox Walk-In]. During Deployment its fine to roll a new character with 2. But respawns while mid-floor definitely drop in with 1 skill. New Players get around this rule if they happen to deploy midgame. And are trying this out for the first time. > But old players claiming to be New Players can abuse this.They can. But then they also no longer access the items in their bank. So really its the choice between...> A respawn that retains player information and item inheritances. But restarts at level 1. [Inheritor]or-> A new character that has effectively 2 skills at level 1.[Wanderer]But what if you decide to re-spawn during the Crystal Corridor ? > Then you are a 2 skill Level 1. With your Item permissions intact. The price you pay for sitting out the remainder of a floor I'm sure.> But that promotes people dying and sitting out.Then don't die. Less players for me to process and more time to save is honestly good. Death is supposed to be /death/. But with healers in play there's a lot of failsafes and rescue methods. Hope this clears things up. I don't intend to let up on this ruling since Advance classes and Veteran Master Classes are meant to be rare in a group :v.But With this version of the game all the tools you have at your disposal to rescue, withdraw, retreat, rez-heal is phases away. So I don't really feel as bad for the extreme lethality of this game.
>>42308732Ah, that's not that bad. Thanks for clarifying.
>>42308732Thanks for clearing that upNow can I actually possibly identify this loot? Or get some clarification on the Squid thing bounty if you don't mind please.
>>42308732Does this mean that only [Inheritors] can claim the money left in the llama bank?
>>42308933Ohooohhhho yeah. I told the Llama. He agreed.
>>42308732Wait, is it so that you die and you get reset to level 1 with 1 skill no matter your levels and current skills?Or is it that you die and you lose 1 skill?.... Honestly it might be better just to restart a new character with this setup since shops are so fickle that even if you have access to your bank you are likely not getting any advantage than just start a new "account".
>>42309080#1 Yes#2 NoIf you die you go to 1ButYou can either have 1 skill and access to your bankOr2 skills
>>42309014Bollocks.I can still sell stories to the Runner's Guild for money, right?>Been wanting to tell them about Hunter Two'wan and how I contributed by throwing a bottle of llama water at an eldritch horror's face.[I] Isaac Lvl 2Equipped: >Lvl 1 Blunderbuss, 9/10 Irondrop>Current Load: Iron Drop (4AP), Firing Solution x 2 (+2 Range)> Lvl 1 UniformBag: Llama bread x 3, Canteen x 1, Binoculars x 1, Molotov x 1ATK: 1DEF: 0+1MOV: 3ACT: 2HP: 4/3 + 1MDEF: 1Skills: Firing Solution, Packed Round Llama Bank: 0zPocket: 307z
>>42309163Who the hell are you to answer this anyway? Name up and trip it or GTFO!
>>42309451Sorry, forgot the trip
>>42309486There we go, sorry that i am aggressive... but i dislike when the peanut gallery is answering willy-nilly when i want clearification to the rules in question.On that note, the current respawn system *cripple* veterans over actually being a benefit. The access to your bank is *not* worth restarting half as good as a regular beginner. >"But you get to bank your items!"Yes, but when do you get this access? between floors? The beginners have the same benefit as you by then except for some items you have lying about, so you have to wait 2 floors to even reap this benefit.*shakes head*
>>42309618All the more incentive not to die!
>>42309618Death are thing for are to do bug. Are not thing for are do you. OR AXE FACE.
>>42309683>>42309691Yeah i suppose...If anything its a observation... and on that note, its a incentive to start a new account rather than continue on your own trip and the system more or less basically tells you that you should.
>>42307202We should definitively share this research with as many people as possible. And I don't see how we have any real use for the notes ourselves - none of us are Volgon scientists unless Buckhards been holding out on us.>Share The Old Notes >>8000, a favour, blood mage bounty.We should hang on to the [Eye of Eld], because there must be some use for them with magic. Our mages, guides and assorted should investigate their properties.>Bank Blue Eye of EldEveryone got us out of there safely, so everyone deserves damn well to get a part of the pot.>SPLIT 8000:21 (380 AGAIN --> 16000 bounty split total = 760 z total to *everybody*)---Ain't leaving Blündy behind either. I'll get ya fixed up, right n' proper luv.>Bank The Smoulderin Gun ( +1atk, +1mag, 3rng, fire/pyro align, -1hp / turn )>Sell 1x KNIGHTLY SHIELD lvl2 3def (Armstrong whaaat)>Sell The Old Gamma Box (For science? IF THIS IS SUPER IMPORTANT LET'S NOT)Gain z! --> 1025+390+380+KNIGHTLY SHIELD 3 DEF(same as Axe?)+1000 = 2795+x (250?)>Visit Armistan Americ"I have one simple statement to make:GUUUUUUUUUUUNSSSSS">Buy Snub-03 (-750)>Buy Invader (-1080)--> (-1830)--> if Shield = 250 sale like axe --> 1215 Z>Buy Happy Bday x20 (-360)>Buy Irondrop x 13 (-104)>Buy MiniBomb x4 (-160)>Buy Instant Coffee x5 (-250)>Buy Llama waterx5 (-10)-->Total 331>Bank 331-----II--HP: 4/4 Mov: 3 Atk: 1Def: 1+3 Mag: 1+1 Act: 2--Knightly Shield, Def+3Snub-03, Ammo 2*/2*, rng3--Iron Drop (4AP Dmg): x20Happy B-day (4 crush 5aoe) x20Salamander Rounds (5fire cross AoE) x4DumboRounds (6 dmg, square aoe, heavy knockback) x3--4xBread, 5x InstantCoffee, 5x Llama Water, 4x MiniBomb, Invader(rng:5, ammo3)--# Firing Solution# Spreadshot# Friendly Fire# Packe Shot--II--Bank 331, items.
>>42309903If that is the case, i bank my money after buying a Stalker and 10x Iron Drops which totals my account to: 338z banked
>>42309952>Sell story of how Hunter Two'wan Actual fell in the line of duty as he volunteered to use his Radiant Chain to light the way for the Eastern Team.>Sell story of how I, with the assistance of Trigger, broke free of the mind-numbing horror that was the sight of the Board of Education, and threw a canteen of llama water at it, thus allowing my teammates to physically murder it very hard."I didn't get to shoot my gun, though..."
I have nothing to buy besides consumables, and I bought that last time so I guess I shall bank everything.>Bank 760z>Continue experimenting with willing Guides on how to create a dual Mage\Guild spell. Now that we are all a bit more experienced let us try again! I think we were attempting a Ring Ward!
>buy 2 stalkers"I am a ghoul. I shall need claws. To rip and rend. ">>42310131>I will help Jackie.[G] GildaLevel 2Equipped Wand level 1Cloak level 1BagHammer level 12x stalkers level 2Skills Ward PulseChannelZenni : 1060z - 700z
>>42310011It was glorious. Right proper soldierin', especially the way the canteen angled just so. The droplets refracting light from the background shine of the unholy creation. A beautiful throw.
>>42309903Trigger please help me out here.So we have 760 Zeny split to everybody?Healing/Cleansing people is worth 50 Zeny instead of 30 Zeny?
>>42310737760 to split to everybody before accounting for ANY KIND of personal ANYTHINGTales of Rescue says 50z, so tales of rescue must be 50z.
>>42310834Very well thank you very much, then let me recount:Floor bounty 760 Z[H3] Hawk[I1] Trigger[K1] Jenny[M3] Golbez[M6] Meave[G1] Gilda[K2]Armstrong[H4] Livia[M5] Velen With 50Z each that is 450 ZLlama Bank 900 Z + 5% Interest = 945 ZInfo on Astral creatures -100ZThat is 2055 Zeny for me then.Also if you have gotten the shield from Armstrong then I then would you mind if I retain the Shield I lent to you?
>>42310938Not even in the slightest! It's your stuff. And Armstrong is going to want his shield back anyhow, so it's terribly uncouth if I go and sell it.Which I totally didn't just try to do!//bank 81 not 331//
>>42309952BTW this thread will soon be saging, can we expect another one before next session or this is the last opportunity to do our things and dump our Zeny on Ale and Llama cookies?
I would like to create a mage character, but how different books work? How magic deals DMG? How far arrow shoots?
>>42311185Books give elements. Damage is based on both the Word and your magic power (the star on the character sheet) Arrow shoots 4 spaces.
>>42311185All Mages all the time. A spell looks like this: [Element] [Word] [Word]. The Element is determined by the Book you're currently holding when you prepare the spell.Preparing Spells takes one Action(you have two actions per Round, you can move, prepare or cast with one action). The Words can be any of the skills your mage has Element BallArrow, ArrowBall, BallBlock, BallBall, ArrowArrow, ArrowRing, RingRing. Typically combining two words changes the nature of its effect, i.e. a FireBallBlock will hit an enemy with a FireBall but also leave a Fire Block where it hits. Damage is determined by the words & your Magic Stat. A starting Mage has 4 Magic + 1 from his Mask. So a Fire Arrow will do 5 damage, a Fire Ball(Ball's do +1 damage) will do 6, a Fire Ball Ball will do 7.Supposedly casting a spell of one element while holding the book of another will cause some sort of different effect. I'm looking forward to experimenting with some silly spells next map, even if its a bad idea I don't think any of my own Block Spells can hurt me since my Magic Attack is my Magic Defense.
>>42311621>>42311538Will ArrowRing be pulsating ring DMG on every "step" of arrow path?
>>42311121>Ale and Llama cookies?Yes pleaseRecounting my Zennies.Two heals I1 Trigger and M3 GolbezTwo revives R1 Becky and G1 Gilda200z + 760z for the floor = 960z not bad. Oh and 39z interest from the Llama = 999zIn to the bank for now.[N]Khya Lv3HP: 3/3 MV: 3 ACT: 2+1 ATK: 1+2 DEF: 1+1 MAG: 3+4Main hand: Reaper Scythe Lv2 (Mag+2 Atk+2 Rng2)Off hand: Watcher Lv2 (ACT +1)Gear: Cloak Lv2 (DEF +1 MAG +2)Bag: Academic Writing PoleLlama Bank: 1789zLlama Item Bank: ArcoKnight Helm, Cursed ArcoKnight Helm, Hammer, Blue Eye of Eld (on ice)Skills: Pulse Channel Ward Cleanse Reversal
>>42311703>Will ArrowRing be pulsating ring DMG on every "step" of arrow path?No it explodes on contact.
>>42308732Monday, this is just bad design.I could get behind it if respawning to the FLOOR dropped you to lvl.1 with 1 skill no matter what. Fine, that's cool.But if we wait to respawn to the crystal cooridor, it should just cut out one level.You've said yourself that equipment is not the most important factor in this game. These new rules make dieing so punitive as to make all of the effort of someone playing completely worthless if they die even ONCE. And it also makes it so any items we were CARRYING are lost as well, only shit we banked, the stuff we saved for a rainy day, and weren't actually USING. And many of that could be fairly high level gear.If you made zenny and items -waaaay- more effective then this would be a good death system. But items often are worthless compared to class abilities.
>>42311703I haven't cast it myself, but someone once told me it was "god mode" or something like that. To me it seems like the spell would resolve by applying the element to the first word and then having the second word resolve after the first, with them sharing the range of either word. So I'm not sure if Ring would proc every square of arrow or if the Arrow would simply hit its target and then proc Ring. I would also assume that Arrow would do your base Magic as Damage, and then Ring would do your base -2.Ring Ring would probably do Base-2 twice, meaning the enemy would apply their defense to each one.
>>42311787>>42308732Hell if the last floor hadn't had so many 'instant death' methods then I'd actually be cool with this. But we had 3 people die not from bleeding out but just in one phase. No revivals. No chance to save them. Nothing. This death method -only- works if there's no instant death attacks in this game, which there blatantly are.This ups the difficulty to such a degree overtime as to make it impossible to play. Hell, I'm not even sure Ragnyll had such a hard time playing as this back in Iron Hearts even with fewer opportunities to heal themselves. At least they had higher total HP thanks to controlling a unit of soldiers. And Iffram's rules were you just drop a level as I recall. Unless you respawned directly to the battlefield, in which case you reroll the character entirely at lvl.1
>>42311781how about BallArrow, does Ball triggers Arrow part after arriving 3 tiles away? Is there difference between ArrowRing and RingArrow?
>>42311900Ball Arrow is a beam attack.
>>42311844>someone once told me it was "god mode"I did>So I'm not sure if Ring would proc every square of arrow or if the Arrow would simply hit its target and then proc Ring.The second. See attached Image. [M2]Jackie just fired an ArrowRing (channeled by yours truly).>>42311900>how about BallArrowIt a wide beam attack.>Is there difference between ArrowRing and RingArrow?Very good question, unfortunately I don't know the answer.[N]Khya Lv3HP: 3/3 MV: 3 ACT: 2+1 ATK: 1+2 DEF: 1+1 MAG: 3+4Main hand: Reaper Scythe Lv2 (Mag+2 Atk+2 Rng2)Off hand: Watcher Lv2 (ACT +1)Gear: Cloak Lv2 (DEF +1 MAG +2)Bag: Academic Writing PoleLlama Bank: 1789z
>>42311973Ring Arrow is a ring of arrows projected around the user. We saw it happen when somebody Bloq Arrow was turned into a Ring Arrow last floor.
>>42312163>Ring Arrow is a ring of arrows projected around the user.It most certainly is not. See Image, it's Ring Arrow fired by Jackie on a different occasion.>>42312163>We saw it happen when somebody Bloq Arrow was turned into a Ring Arrow last floorThat spell was corrupted, the possessed said Ring twice, it may have been Fire RingRing, we don't know what happened to it.
>>42308732>pull out all money currently in bank>Buy 5 minibombs>Bank the 1019 Zenny I have left>Bank the Iron Maiden(Slime) in Owl's bank for him if possible. Will retrieve my own Iron Maiden once he sells it to the schola.
We just got a whole lot of neat items that not all of us can use right away. I propose this!This can be used as a catch-all for the whole group, and allow new people the chance of picking up more advanced gear should they lack the zenni or the shops are not available. >Open a bank account for the whole group. A leader must okay withdrawals if the person withdrawing something didn't deposit the item or zenni in question in the first place.Don't worry about book keeping, I'll keep track of who deposits what. Money can deposited as well, and we can start earning interest. In fact I'll start.>Withdraw all 630 from personal bank account>Deposit 1380z into group bank account.
>>42312317>bank my stalkers[H] HetrosEquipped:-Hunting Chain(lvl1,2hnd,Rng3,Atk+1)-Overcoat (lvl1,Def+1,Atk+1)Bag:(1/4)Chain*3, (2/4)Minibomb*5, (3/4) Baton, (4/4) emptyStats:HP:2/2, Mv:4, ATK:4(2+1+1), DEF:2(1+1), MDEF:1, ACT:2Abilities:[Class]Drop Attacks give Atk+2, [H]Bloodlust, [H]Hook and Pull, [H]RigZenny:0Bank:1019z, Stalkers*1>>42312305Then there's probably no difference between ArrowRing and RingArrow.
>>42311973Ah, the delightful hamlet of LanternReap. Back when we were only fighting monstrous manifestations of space, time and fate in a rush to escape a shower of blood and the encroaching doom of worlds in the far distance. Those were good times. I still have the pitch-fork scars. Now-a-days it's all possessing monsters, Vosskon ghosts, spectres, and re-sitting examinations I was sure I passed years ago. And picking fights with astral monster space whales who plump the eternal depths of the endless black void between floors. Because why not. I just wanted a gun and a snazzy uniform. Over the hills and far away indeed.
>>42309952I have been thinking of trying out the armor I found and shown at >>42306905How would it work if Poka, a Guide, would wear those? The helmet counts as full body armor? Meaning I would have to switch out the basic cloak if I want to wear the helmet?I take the basic wand is one handed since it does not say 2 handed would that mean it can be used while wearing the shield in the off hand?Will wearing those heavy armor (shield, Helmet) interfere with the normal stats of the Guide class? Like will Poka suffer from Aether numbness, limited mobility or other penalties?
>>42312325>Withdraw 1019z from bank>Deposit it into the Group BankKeep track of what you guys put in, so we can keep track of everyone's shares in the group bank.
>>42312163 "I-I'm still not sure what happened back there exactly.."
>>42311973>>42311781>>42311538thanks for info[M]ageHP: 2/2 MV: 2 ACT: 2 ATK: 0 DEF: 0+1 MAG: 4+1Main hand: lvl 1 Book of fire(Mag 1, Words 2)Gear : lvl 1 Mask(Mag+1, Def+1)Bag: chalk, book?Llama bank: 0zWords: Arrow, Ring
>>42312409Not your fault Meave, we've come to the conclusion it wasn't the spell itself but the corruption of it that must have screwed with your targetting as well.
>>42312344You would lose the +1 defense and +1 magic provided by the guide cloak and gain whatever the stat bonuses are for the armor. That would be the only change. You can also probably equip the shield in your off hand no problem.
>>42312325New boss, same as the old boss, huh?>Donate 81z>Donate 4x Bread>Donate [The Smouldering Gun] (please be careful with my cursed fire gun baby)>Donate 1x[Blue Eye of Eld] (w: 2100z to Aetheric market, ancient, deadly, exotic, magical, came from a minor sort of god)
>>42312325>Withdraw my shield, acronaut helm, 1440z>Deposit my zenni, shield, acronaut helm and LanternReap Crystals in the group bank.
>>42312344>I take the basic wand is one handedIt is. Since Navigators have to hold the wand and the watcher.>Will wearing those heavy armor (shield, Helmet) interfere with the normal stats of the Guide class?Only in the loss of 1 MAG from the cloak, your heals will be down a bit 3HP vs. 4HPNot official, but makes sense to me
How many spells can I prepare at a single time?
>>42312510How many actions do you have?
>>42312510As far as I can tell there is no limit to number of prepared spells that you can make. I got as high as 5 before I started casting.
>>42312510In general, I've found that like guides should leave a trail of wards as they walk along early game. Mages should prepare a spell with each movement they take.
So apparently we each get 760z? Okay...>Get 760z>Buy 5 canteens of Llama water (-10z)>Buy Happy Bday rounds (-180z)>Bank the rest in my bank[I] Isaac Lvl 2Equipped: >Lvl 1 Blunderbuss, 9/10 Irondrop (4AP), 10/10 HappyBday (4Crush, 5AOE)>Current Load: Iron Drop (4AP), Firing Solution x 2 (+2 Range)> Lvl 1 UniformBag: Llama bread x 3, Canteen x 6, Binoculars x 1, Molotov x 1ATK: 1DEF: 0+1MOV: 3ACT: 2HP: 4/3 + 1MDEF: 1Skills: Firing Solution, Packed Round Llama Bank: 670zPocket: 0z
>>42312620>Current Load: Iron Drop (4AP), Firing Solution x 2 (+2 Range)Please don't walk around in the corridor with a loaded gun.
>>42311852>Hell, I'm not even sure Ragnyll had such a hard time playing as this back in Iron Hearts.They actually did. Then they got used to skirmish game.Skirmish games are high lethality. At the end of the day you're a chess piece in a really big board and this is why these are so fun. What you have to realize is that each level is not built to win without sacrifices especially at higher levels. Deaths will Happen.TPK will Happen.This is Skirmish.Currently there is already a lot of death mitigation to the point where I don't feel bad for 1HK'ing party members.And Deaths will /have/ to be very definitive in the sense that they must hurt. Otherwise this game's concepts of a losing condition will outright disappear. So for the time being, this stuff sticks.
>>42312441>>42312305 "We could try a ring spell again, without interference next time to confirm its effects. I-I learned to use ring!"
>>42312810"Good idea, next level prepare FireArrowRing and FireRingArrow on the first turn, then find two convinient targets and launch them both while everybody isn't clustered around you!"
>>42312802Can we get confirmation on the nature of Ghoul Arm and Loon Hairpin?
>>42312802Monday, I'm still wondering if Furiosa can be upgraded or requires any upkeep. There was talk about warding it a few threads ago.>I was also interested in finding out more information on Furiosa with the Information Brokers>..and wanted to identify my starter mystery book
>>42312586I was thinking the same thing.Probably prepare a couple basic spells first turn.
>>42312898>next level prepare FireArrowRing and FireRingArrow on the first turn, then find two convinient targets and launch them bothSCIENCE
>>42312955I'm thinking: >Prepare FireBlockRing>Switch to Wind Book>Cast FireBlockRing
>>42312934I'm setting something up where I have someone process numbers while I took care of lore junk and eating the thread from there :v [sorry for the wait MGSV is really good rn]
>>42312802Death can be final, but time spent playing is still time spent playing and that should be acknowledged further then nearly worthless zenni. Losing a single skill and a level is getting hurt. Its losing an entire floor of progress, and there are only going to be so many floors along with the gear of multiple levels worth of upgrading your gear. Furthermore people can die multiple times during a floor. Having them lose 1 skill a death means that they will be desperate to avoid dying again and being set back ever further. Otherwise they will just shrug their shoulders and respawn. It also means that getting an Advanced Class like Navigator isn't a risk as far as skill loss goes. Imagine this. You just ranked up to Navigator, you die. You lose a skill. You have a choice, destroy the Navigator skill which you can get back but is more useful? Or a Guide skill you can never learn again.As it is now, people will simply reset as a guide and be a navigator again in 2 more floors with no other repercussions. Make it so death while punishing, isn't crushing the entire idea of continuity.
>>42313069>sorry for the wait MGSV is really goodNo worries>>42313069>Switch to Wind Book>Cast FireBlockRingExplode in to flaming cinders.I have to cast Reversal on you.>>42312995>we all get 960Bank updated to reflect new amount, rolling in Zennies.[N]Khya Lv3HP: 3/3 MV: 3 ACT: 2+1 ATK: 1+2 DEF: 1+1 MAG: 3+4Main hand: Reaper Scythe Lv2 (Mag+2 Atk+2 Rng2)Off hand: Watcher Lv2 (ACT +1)Gear: Cloak Lv2 (DEF +1 MAG +2)Bag: Academic Writing PoleBanco de Llama: 1989zSkills: Pulse Channel Ward Cleanse Reversal
>>42313129It will be worth the knowledge. So did anyone ever take me up on my offer to buy you Sleep Bombs/Baton?
To clarify the numbers presented in general - and sorry for the confusion - 960 is the payout that everyone gets in zen from sharing bounties and item sales.960! >>42312620Isaac - you want 120 for an Invader? We can split some bullets as well, work it out.>>42313167I'd like to take you up on that since I lost my two sleep bombs while running. They will come in handy.
>>42313224I'm good, thanks.
To let everyone know we have passed 300 posts and are now on page 4. This page is now on its own Terminus Clock.
>>42312802>>42303457We haven't gotten an evaluation of these yet. Can I pay for it inplace of Burkhard if he's not got the spare cash? (he can just pay me back later)Also, can I get a price check on finding out more about the House of M from the Blood Market?
>>42308732>>42312802The only thing saving us from permadeath in the past was Clones. Hell even armor didn't exist back then, ask my first 2 tanks that died to small arms fire. But times have changed and Death still sucks, so thank you Monday for keeping it so.
>>42305627The ????? faction doesn't have Hunters as part of it... which I assume is the House of M faction? Is that a mistake?
>>42313081 Okay, thanks Monday!
>>42312898Meave grins and gives a sharp enthusiastic nod before running off to look over her spell book.
>>42313550Death sucks. Dying is bad. Eh.>200z extra appears.>buy 2x Sleep Bomb to replace lost sleep bombs>buy 1x MiniBomb to round up to 5x Minibomb stack.>Wonder how to carry all these guns and shot, shell, bullets and bombs. "N-next place we were all going was going to be really, really wet - right? Because I think I might go up like an aether crystal if I can't secure some of this stuff better">With 4 item slots I'll figure out what to bring along when deploying.
>>42313657"... maybe I shouldn't be giving the Mages ideas... oh well. Could be worse. I could be giving SCI-FAXES ideas... and everyone knows that's just asking for trouble."
>>42313085Nope. Let's put it this way. Last floor you rushed into the hardest possible challenge rating, and cleared nearly 70 percent of the map and suffered only 4 deaths with the intervention of only 2 Advance classes. As well as combat and won against a boss that had these stats.<<<<<<<<The extent of ok teamwork and overclocked turns may have helped but you were essentially dealing with a tricky situation of interlocked pinsir assaults, imbalanced party matches AND A GODDAMN FLOOR BOSS but still got out of that situation having EARNED IT like you would NOT understand. Otherwise am I lead to believe that- > You were expecting 0 losses and that anything of what I mentioned was supposed to be survivable. > And that this kind of victory did not come at some substantial price. Cause then you would seriously be wasting my right now if my sole engine for this game is to create beatable friendly scenarios. In which everyone becomes sparkly unicorn knights and fight 10 hour paintings all day erryday. But unfortunately I don't have that time, and sweetening the experience to that extent takes all the punch out of it. Are there hard edges ? Yes ? Is this a considerably upgrade from last time ? Still yes. Do not think that by meeting the rules of death halfway like that it will solve any problem. These extremes must be balanced by meaningful yet reduced measures. Losing 1 skill for a permadeath is bad but manageable for a single person. But then if you have 20 guys, and I killed 19 of everyone you would still be ahead of the curve if even 1 levels up. We're looking at a balanced situation in which 10 guys dying is supposed to be bad, and its up for the surviving 10 to help the new recruits back up whilst mitigating for losses in the next floor. You are supposed to work as a team ya'll that way I can fight you as a team. Now to get processing. I got a 4th class to design :v
>>42313758okay... seeing the stats on that boss... I'm willing to drop this entirely.Given that we beat THAT THING with only 3 people dieing? Even with instant kills? Yeah, your views take priority here.Also I must say I find it boss that you draw up that monster table without ever expecting to show it to us.
>>42313758Holy shit. This guy is un-fucking-believable. ... but he's still so god-darn cool.
>>42313224So long as we capture at least one monster for the purposes of gaining more Magic for our active Mages then sure. You'll need some chains too, do you have the inventory space for sleep bombs and chains? >>42313758When can I switch classes to the Board of Education? He looks magey enough
>>4231385510th floor dear. After you make a pact with an outsider and betray your friends using the [Egg of Kings]
I didn't want to post, but I need someone to tell me who is dead in this list, and who is not included.[G1] Gilda[G2] Lumps[G3] Charon[G4] Poka[G5] Khya[G6] Meteorios[H1] Owl[H2] Hetros[H3] Hawk[H4] Livia[H5] Don Juan[I1] Burkhard[I2] Trigger[I3] Isaac[K1] Jenny[K2] Armstrong[K3] Temjin[K4] Siegfried[M1] Jackie[M2] Golbez[M3] Coffee[M4] Velen[M5] Meave[R1] Becka[R2] Varian[R3] Ziegfried
>>42313855Right now Owl should have a slime banked away for scholaBecause the Blood Market only wanted to pay us 80z for it.>>42313892Don JuanLumps I think but am Not sure.Siegfried.Uh... as for deaths I'm not sure. But we know for a fact it was divided up 21 ways (owl dropped his share)
>>42313758I like how he has 8 movement but didn't move from where he spawned for the rest of the floor.
>>42313758For that fight I was expecting more losses then what did occur. I almost expected to lose the entire east side. We very nearly did. We cut that fight too close. Dead[G2] LumpsThe other [H4] with the dificult to spell name.[H5] Don Juan[K4] SiegfriedGave up their floor money[H1] Owl
>>42313892[G2] Lumps - VAPORIZED[H5] Don Juan - VANISHED[K3]Tem'Jin - DISAPPEARED[R1] Becka - PSYCHE; it's actually BECKY[K4] Siegfried - GOT REVENGE FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, NOW GONE
>>42313758>sparkly unicorn knightsMake it a Sparkly Unicorn Guide and I'm in.Thanks again for everything you do. And the monster is/was terrifying.
>>42313948Is Temjin inactive or dead?
>>42314021Some people only play a few turns then disappear forevermore.
>>42314021Apologies for lack of clarity[K3] Tem'Jin is INACTIVE[H5] Don Juan is inactiveTo this list you should add:[M6] Moore - for showing up and saving the day!
>>42313891>[Egg of Kings]So... only 9 levels to go. I wonder if Lichdom is a good alternative
We're on page 8. Our guy is auditing these actions but otherwise I would ask ya'll to repost any actions I haven't wholly touched on yet in the general thread that's coming up.
>>42314120I might be buying people stuff anyway.
>>42313892[K2] Armstrong up and vanished after dumping all his stuff on Trigger
>>42314120May i ask what caused the AOE "Shocked" effect on us? I think it was on turn 13 or 14?
>>42314173That was what happens when you cut a high power electrical cord on a metal deck. Which Armstrong did.
>>42312344Armors and such ? For now entertain the idea that worn equipment can't be cross classed. Hand items on the other hand are totally free. Of course the caveat here is that you would also need to qualify for the stat requirements needed to wear certain equipment. Knight's shield is I believe a lvl 2 wield. ... which is strangely doable > >
>>42314150S-someone explain where Mr. Armstrong went? I miss him. He had good stories. I'm just g-going to polish this shield one more time, yeah? Please tell me he'll be back.
>>42314173That was from dousing people with water. The mass Stuns was partially a result of locking eyes with an Elderitch Titan that materialized in the mortal plane.
>>42314202Thank you for the answer. Yeah I figured there must be some requirement but it was not yet explained so I just considered both of them unusable by default.Knight's Shield would be doable but I think I have my party to protect me!
>>42313891>>42314114 If this happens, those who get screwed remember to scream "King Peels Eggs!" - It's more or less a direct translation of "Bastard!" in Mandarin. It feels somehow appropriate, I think.
>>42314253Thought so. I am sorry if i been sounding like a twat so far, i guess the only feedback i can provide is to be a little clearer on what causes what. Its okay with the high lethality as long as we know where it came from and if we see it: what caused it.Also, could you make a pinpoint on who get the killing blow on a monster? Or is there some kind of indication i am not aware of?
I am juat gonna ask since someone is telling a tale of making the board of directors physically manifest through water... Wasnt that the holy geo syncho field with my cleanse combo that did that or am I just getting confused again? I sorta feel a bit slighted if it WAS my cleanse which did it and someone is throwing that kind of thing around. *slighted Guides are not good* * evil eye thrown around*
>>42312163Tried to do it with 8 arrows. Was broken. Did it with 4 arrows, was broken and it got people potentially killed so we stuck with the arrow rain version which was most consistent with the rules :v
>>42314424THe tangent spell that got slipped in was additionally casted on the user's space since shit-starter elderitch etc.
>>42314274>>42314202So badically to use the helmet you would need to drop the cloak? Loosing the mag bonus for another armour point?
>>42314456Now that the moneyflow have circulated around and stopped at a final number>Bank 538z ( after my shopping ) Hopefully they dont change that number again, and i thought it would be better to have it in the records.
>>42314467Yuh :v But then I get to draw Aquanaut priests. This is a very hard decision
>>42314507And I dunno how much I gain since Hetros did the math on my bounty gain...
>>42314542I didn't. Redaeth did. We're at 960
>>42314529With wand and Snub-3 in each hand throwing out pulses and taking names!
>>42314529You have my attention!
>>42314529>>42314565I actually like the idea of the duel wielding wand-pistol combo of a priest in heavy armour...
>>42314415>I sorta feel a bit slighted if it WAS my cleanseMy understanding is that the Cleanse field harmed it and grounded it, but the water also grounded it.As usual a team effort.
>>42314615It's a good look right Poka? I will buy that helmet from you for it. But I dont have much left after my shopping spree so after next floor maybe? Or when we get to next cash in so to say.
>>42314667>I will buy that helmet from you for itI have a spare Helmet, so you and Poka can both be Guide Knights if you choose.I won't even give you the cursed one
>>42314648Alright. *less slighted guide is less slighted. *pouts*I feel like Meterios is some sort of former middle class guy with something to prove yet he honestly want to help everyone anyway even when his "honour" gets slighted
>>42314727That would be very kind of you Khya!Cursed Helm you say? I am not interested. Not at all...
>>42308732Yo Monday, the thread is about to sage! Before it does can you please rate the Ghoul Arm and Loon Hairpin?And Also tell me what price it is to find out more about the House of M? (if it's 300 zenny or less, then I'll pay for it)
so uh... If I get that helmet from Khya then I need to get some inventory space...Anyone interested in a cloak and hammer? Or should I just bank them?
>>42314753>>42314667>>42314627>>42314880After hearing Monday I would rather keep the helmet and shield in my bank to use them for Item fusion later. I hope you won't mind that I reconsidered.I say bank what you don't need you can never know. I would take the cloak but would only use it for item fusion when it becomes available which effectively destroys it.
>>42314902No worries Poka. Khya offered his spare helmet to me. I am also interested in item fusing the cloak so I will just hold on to them in the bank too
>>42314880This thread is not long for this world, we will work out details in the next one.You can store items in the Llama bank.
>>42314989Alleight. I am on my way home in late saturday night traffic at the moment but will be home in less then 20 min.
>Bank is apparently 770z after recalculating for 960z payout.>Withdraw 560z>Buy Old Hunter (-560z)>Sell/scrap old Blunderbuss (+???z)[I] Isaac Lvl 2Equipped: >Lvl 1 Old Hunter, RNG: 6, AMMO: 1, *Cannot Move and Fire, 2 HANDS>Ammo: 10/10 Irondrop (4AP), 10/10 HappyBday (4Crush, 5AOE)> Lvl 1 UniformBag: Llama bread x 3, Canteen x 6, Binoculars x 1, Molotov x 1ATK: 1DEF: 0+1MOV: 3ACT: 2HP: 4/3 + 1MDEF: 1Skills: Firing Solution, Packed Round Llama Bank: 220zPocket: 0z
"Are there any Militia around with binoculars they don't use? I would like to buy a pair"
>>42315752Would you like some Chains, Sleep Bombs and/or a Baton? I want to capture Monsters for Literature.
>>42315811I have limited bag space as it is. The reason I want binoculars is that I must plan my routes into enemy territory a bit more safely then before. I have learned a bit of caution since my days of being alive.Don't worry though I'm still just as suicidal as my predecessor. I'm just a bit more cautious about it.
>>42315925You'll be fine, and the Militia do use their binoculars early on.