>This is a quest taking place in an alternate version of the Naruto world during the same time period as the story, with a few notable differences. You will be playing as Kon Karagowa, a Leaf Genin. Your character is defined by your choices, so write-ins are always encouraged. And remember to have fun!>Quest Info:http://pastebin.com/MVFFKhvH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfMSO4lp518&list=PL3AC39BCAE0A97F85&index=10After Tazuna's daughter Tsunami fixes breakfast, your team eats and heads out to a nearby grove to start training.Kakashi Sensei, now supported by crutches, addresses the team."The only way you three are going to get measurably better in the little time we have is by working on your chakra control." your Sensei explains. "Now, I trust that all of you remember the basic workings of chakra?">A.Maybe we could get a refresher>B.Kiba probably forgot>C.Aren't we using chakra just fine? We are using jutsu>D.Other
>>42167877>A.Maybe we could get a refresher
>>42167877>A.Maybe we could get a refresher>B.Kiba probably forgot
>>42167877>>A.Maybe we could get a refresher
>>42167877>D. I...might have been paying more attention to the explosives portion.
>>42167903>>42167917>>42167921https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We60ZX5C99I&list=PL3AC39BCAE0A97F85&index=24"Maybe we could get a refresher?" you ask."Of course." your Sensei replies. "Using chakra requires you to draw on your spiritual and physical energies. This must be done in exactly the right proportion, or you're just wasting energy. Thus, the goal of this training is to practice until you can draw out your chakra as effectively as possible. In battle, managing your chakra must be second nature, or you'll run out and be unable to fight.""So what exactly are we doing?" Sasuke asks."We'll be climbing trees." your Sensei states.Your team looks confused."But there's a stipulation." Kakashi goes on. "You can't use your hands. You must climb the tree by focusing your chakra to the soles of your feet, like so."Kakashi Sensei makes a hand sign to focus his chakra. Then, crutches and all, he walks slowly up the side of the tree. When he reaches a high branch, he even walks along the underside before turning to address you upside down."The soles of the feet are said to be the hardest location in the body to focus chakra, so if you can accomplish this, you are well on your way to mastering chakra control. This same principle can also be used to walk across the surface of water, as you saw Zabuza and I do earlier."He throws three kunai down at your feet. "Try to climb the tree and mark your progress, attempting to get higher each time. You'll want to get a running start at first."The three of you take the kunai and face separate trees, then begin focusing your chakra.>roll 1d100 to focus chakra
Rolled 96 (1d100)>>42168221GOOOOOOOOO
Rolled 18 (1d100)>>42168221AWAKEN! MY CHAKRA
Rolled 8 (1d100)>>42168221
Rolled 94 (1d100)>>42168221
>>42168280Apparently we are the Sakura in our team, Except for the useless and annoying part!
>>42168369I'm alright with that. Sakura + Bombs is an awesome idea.
>>42168410I meant as in very good with controlling our chakra.
>>42168475Yeah, I knew what you meant, I was just saying, exceptional chakra control as well as being skilled with explosives could lead to a lot of cool shit.
>>42168280https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqq_-ixMHi0&index=1&list=PL3AC39BCAE0A97F85You focus the chakra to your feet and run at the tree. As you start to go up, you feel your feet attracted to the tree. You keep going up, and feel the chakra fluctuating. in order to not fall off, you have to adjust the amount of chakra in your feet."Here I go!" Kiba, as enthusiastic as ever, runs at the tree. He only gets a few feet up before falling back down and hitting his head. Luckily Akamaru had ditched his usual resting spot before Kiba fell.Sasuke takes to the tree a bit too hard. He runs a few feet up, but the tree begins to crack at the force of his chakra, and he falls down.You however reach a branch quite high up, and decide to call it there, taking a rest on the branch."Well, well." Kakashi remarks. "That's about what I expected from Sasuke and Kiba, but you gave me quite the surprise, Kon. That's some impressive chakra control."The three of you keep training for quite a while, making good progress, before Kakashi comes up to you."Tazuna needs at least one escort while he works on the bridge." he tells you. "You seem to have this exercise down pretty well, so I think you should go.">A.Alright, I'll go>B.I want to keep training, Kiba should go>C.I want to keep training, Sasuke should go
>>42168544>A.Alright, I'll go
>>42168544>A. Alright, I'll go
>>42168544>A.Alright, I'll goAlso, we should give Sasuke and Kiba some tips before we go, they seem like they could use it.
>>42168544>B.I want to keep training, Kiba should go
>>42168544>D. Oh, before I go, do you have any extra Razor Wire Sensei? I'm gonna try to avoid explosives for the most part.
>>42168675Now that's OOC for Kon! He LOVES explosions, Also the bridge is sturdy enough to handle explosive tags.
>>42168544>A.Alright, I'll goI caught it! Sodium hair is a-go?
>>42168817No we decided on greenish hair and we look like a mix between Terumi and Gin.
>>42168845Okay, that's fine. But we should have some potassium or something to fuck with water clones.
For future, anybody think puppets might be good as we have sick chakra control and it'd be an easy way to use explosives and stuff, it is essentially mobile equipment that can be activated from a distance. We could become the tony stark of puppets
>>42168817No, red and blonde, like the phoenix.
>>42168887Oh yeah, Definitely could use puppets also, But not focus mainly on them.
>>42168734Maybe we just love traps?We'd make a good apprentice to this guy.http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Gennō
>>42168845Nah, we didn't agree on shit, and our hair's longer than that anyway.
>>42168927Oh yeah, dont wanna pigeon hole ourselves into one thing. It'd definitely be used as a part of our ever growing kit
Rolled 5 (1d12)>>42168938How about we let the dice decide that? Our hair is 1d12 inches long.
>>42168938Fuck off no it isn't.
>>42168997Having to cut your hair is just a concept forced onto you by the man.
>>42168938Oh it's you again, Fuck back off to /pol/.
>>42168984Do we wanna let the dice decide hair color as well? That seems to be the big contention point here.
I am really considering the merits of carrying alkali metals to mess up water clones. I wonder if they have pure sodium. They must if there are working gas masks.
>>42169052No, Greenish hair was decided upon last time.
>>42169066Quit lying, no one likes gainsayers.
>>42169065We're not (book)smart enough for thoughts like that.
>>42168564>>42168576>>42168590>>42168591>>42168593https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWMyAY8oTnQ&index=52&list=PL3AC39BCAE0A97F85You offer some tips to Kiba and Sasuke before you go. Though they try to look stubborn, they clearly listen intently.Later on, you reach the bridge with Tazuna. You watch him and his workers as they assemble the bridge, not doing much of anything yourself except staying alert.Around lunchtime, one of the workers, Giichi, comes up to Tazuna."Tazuna." he calls. "I need to talk to you. I've been thinking about the bridge, and I think I should stop.""What?" exclaims Tazuna. "After we've come this far, now you're quitting on me?""I stayed this long because of our friendship." Giichi continues. "But I'm risking my life every day I come here. Gato's thugs will come and kill you eventually, and the bridge will never get finished. We should get out while we can."Tazuna grits his teeth. You notice his fists clenching.>A.Stay out of it>B.Tell the guy off>C.Try to calm Tazuna>D.Other
>>42169065The problem with that is storing them safely so they don't all react the moment someone splashes some water on us. Plus it's pretty situational to be eating up space in our pouches.
>>42169086http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/42152052/>>42169119>A.Stay out of it
Rolled 3 (1d4)>>42169066It doesn't seem like it.1- Silver/Gray2- a variant on red3- Greenish Gray4-Platinum Blonde
>>42169119>C.Try to calm Tazuna
>>42169119>"Actually, Tazuna hired on some extra help. Me, my team, and our Sensei. Gato sent some ninja after us already, but we drove them off. They're not too hard to deal with."
>>42169119>C.Try to calm Tazuna>>42169137>>42168984Also roll for this shit all you want it means nothing moron
>>42169065>>42169122Another problem. How are we going to get enough alkali metals to make an effective explosion? How are we going to get alkali metals in the first place?
>>42169137The dice apparently agree with me.
>>42169119>D. You've already gotten this far, stopping wouldn't cause Gato to spare you. If you want even a chance of accomplishing something other than dying, the bridge is your best bet.
>>42169205Not for big explosions, just enough to break the water clones.>>42169196You're just upset that they didn't agree with you. I was advocating silver hair, and I'm not complaining.
>>42169196The roll gave ever choice a fair chance, just accept the result.
Hey guys, got a freak windstorm up here, and my Internet went out. Sorry, but I have to stop for now. If my Internet goes back up, I'll start running this thread again, but for now my hands are tied.
>>42169264>>42169310You idiots, you rolling for appearance is irrelevant because OP has the final say>just accept the result.>You're just upset that they didn't agree with you.Lol i dont even give a fuck about your self imposed results and the appearance in general doesnt effect me.
>>42169435But the appearance we rolled is both in line for what OP was cool with, and he said it was entirely up to us.
>>42169467He said that you 2 specifically had the final say?That you could decide the method of deciding?Oh okay thenMake a strawpoll or something if you want to be genuinely fair you fucks
>>42169505I mean, sure, I just didn't think it was that important. http://strawpoll.me/5349743
>>42169505I rolled because I thought it was fair and as you said it is arbitrary. Strawpoll is very easy to rig, and the dice gods simply find a number and pick it. My question is, if it doesn't matter to you, than why do you care so much?
I think that, since OP has a parent in mind for both mother and father, we should let him decide what we look like.
>>42169592Because he does and he's being an assblasted faggot?>>42169609>Confirmed for not reading last thread.
>>42169592The results are meaninglessAnons who think they have more control than they do are always a pain, better to nick it in the bud before you decide Goku was actually our father or somethingDont read too much into that, obvious hyperbole is obvious
>>42169629But I didn't decide anything, the dice did.
There was never going to be a unanimous decision about the appearance anywayIt really all comes down to what the majority is willing to compromise with
>>42169660You decided the method, taking the option out of other peoples hands
>>42169664And the majority want us to look like a mix of Terumi and Gin with short greenish grey hair.
>>42169664I mean, I wanted sodium hair, but I'm fine with what seems to be winning the strawpoll and the dice. The big question is if it matters.
>>42169692I didn't say I was the end all be all, I figured that since I didn't care, I'd throw the dice. I think that a better topic for conversation would be what we need to do in the quest.
>>42169764Know what I think we should start discussing? What we're gonna do when the Chunin exams happen. I mean, unless we start increasing our stats, we're gonna kinda get fucked by literally everyone. Especially if Orochimaru enters the picture like he did in the series.
>>42169660You decided the options that were listed, anon.>>42169609Short-ish platinum blonde hair with green eyes and a slightly unsettling grin seemed to have some support last thread. This was based on the suggestion of Gin as a starting point, which in turn was due to the fact that OP stated Kon's uncle looks a lot like the ramen guy with the perpetual squinty anime eyes. It was even a natural color.Then the contrarian faggots rolled in with tomato red, green shades, blue shades, etc.
>>42169793Yeah, that. We shouldn't metagame by expecting Orochimaru, but we do need to improve. We should work on honing chakra control and reserves, so that we can keep doing crazy substitutions and stuff. That and a bit of using our speed with our weapon.
>>42169832Hell maybe Orochimaru is a good guy in this setting?
>>42169701Shaggy lookin' hair that's 5 inches.
>>42169832We don't even really know Orochimaru will show up, even if we are metagaming. He showed up for Sasuke, or am I remembering incorrectly? Our Sasuke doesn't seem to be anywhere near as driven as the canon one, so who knows if Orochimaru would have any interest whatsoever.
>>42169793Also i cant imagine throwing kunai with explosives working for al that much longer, regardless of tactics
>>42169805Then why are you complaining about the options listed? Platinum Blonde was on there. Anything that had a modicom of support in the last thread, and this one was included. Don't take the results if you want, but I don't think I skewed it seeing as what I thought was cool didn't win.
>>42169701When did we ever agree on short hair? Quit being false.
>>42169875Thus why we need to get to work on crazy spiked-chain-mines. It disarms, it binds, it makes chunky salsa!
>>42169905How's bout you quit being a lying assblasted faggot?
>>42169921Should also work on getting good with our kyoketsu-shoge, so far every time we've successfully used it has been us getting lucky.
How about we just let the first drawfag to put up something good decide on our appearance?And y'all are REALLY arguing about hair LENGTH AND STYLE?That can change when we hit the inevitable timeskip.
>>42169937You're the one making big claims without support and insisting that the majority feel the same.
>>42170013Oh jee it's not like there's a straw pole now is there? Oh wait!
>>42169977But what if I desire pink frilly drills anon, only shitposting will get me them
>>42169875Hence the chakra, as we seem to have a gift with controlling it. Then we can substitute for explosives and make people hesitate to get close. That would shore up the weakness of our strength, since nobody would come close to engage us.
>>42170048There was not.>>42170059Eh, pink is too Sakura, and we're already skirting the line as is.
>>42170103>There was not.Mr blind and retarded here!http://strawpoll.me/5349743/r
>>42170103Fine then, MAROON, a single drill on the back of our head. I'll accept no less
Out of curiosity, why the green? I hope it's not just to make our MC look more like a character from another franchise.
>>42170251It's totally for that reason.
>The whole town's out of powerWe might be waiting a while, guys
>>42170251We had huge long debates and eventually settled on greyish-green because people were stuck on an unnatural color v. black/gray. Hazama entered the picture afterwards, I think
>>42170285Pretty much this, Laze didn't like white since in his words it was to mary sueish.
>>42170283What do you think we need to work on for the Chunin exams?
>>42170283Unfortunate.>>42170268>>42170285So why is a very light blonde no longer being seriously entertained? Distinctive, and importantly not black, but also not freakishly unnatural.
>>42170283Try not to die man
>>42170313Thinking back though, I guess that guy was right and in Naruto it's not that badThey still make a big deal out of Kakashi and his dad having it though
>>42170357Let's not cramp on Kakashi's style.
>>42170313But apparently fucking green is okay?>>42170326It's pretty obvious. Chakra control improves our abilities and builds us towards using our chakra nature, and building our strength shores up our greatest weakness while improving our ability to use our weapons.
>>42170327I honestly have no clue. It was a big contender for a while, but most people seemed cool with green when it was brought up.
>>42169977I hope the drawfag gives Kon long hair and a poncho.
>>42170388Right now we aren't really "good" at anything but thinking with strategy. I think being too generalist is a poor option. Also, I was asking Laze, I was the one who posted the chakra control plan.
>>42170326You are 100% guaranteed to not fight Gaara or Sasuke in the prelims, as I said, it'll only be semi-randomYou could honestly just keep training with what you've got now, and with some careful tactics make out just fine, so it's up to you guys
>>42170388This is a setting where pink is a normal hair color that people have.
>>42170453>You are 100% guaranteed to not fight Gaara or Sasuke in the prelimsThank god.
>>42170453Make a post on your phone already, don't waste the time on a day like today.
>>42170487Sorry to do this to you, but I feel like doing that is just too much trouble. Feel free to go do something else for a few hours and check back, I don't want you to waste your whole day on my account.
>>42170435At least one of those I am on board with.>>42170487No need to get pissy. Laze isn't being payed to do this.
>>42170563Can we learn taijutsu from Guy?And then prank Kakashi by hengeing ourselfs into green spandex and bowl cut, and ranting about youth?
>>42170442I kind of tend to think that since strength training and chakra control are foundational for every specialty we should work on them. At least to the point where they're not weaknesses.When we have our nature as an option and can conceivably handle larger or more unusual weapons, we can decide on a specialty to build around.
>>42170632I still think combat sealing would be interesting and play to our strength.
>>42170610I'm sure you could catch a few sessions with Guy, he's always willing to help people out
>>42170655Sealing isn't commonly taught, though I suppose Tenten could show us the ropes (since that's the cornerstone of her canon style). At least to the effect that Sasuke uses them late in canon to produce just enough weapons when they're needed.I really do want to make sure we get to the point where we can learn our nature. Depending on what it is, it could be useful and powerful. >>42170657Not a bad idea. Weighted clothing could help us without distracting from other training.
>>42170735Kakashi also uses sealing.Plus, on a long mission we could carry a lot of supplies.
>>42170735Then we can troll Sasuke into thinking nudity makes you stronger.
>>42170799Sealing explosive tags on our palms could be cool.Plan Kimblee is a go
>>42170914Do you want to lose a hand? We don't have to copy Naruto that much.
>>42170914Sealing directly into our flesh seems a bit overboard, but there are those bracers Sasuke uses in canon to store shuriken. Maybe use those, instead? Less risk of exploding ourself, since we could always just take it off if something goes wrong.
>>42170942Doesn't distribute the weight properly. Weighted clothes work by increasing resistance to all of your movements, causing your body to have to work a little harder for everything, thus increasing strength and endurance. A weighted poncho wouldn't do much of anything.
Has no one thought about stealing zabuzas sword? hell, we probably could have done that before haku left with his body.
>>42170959Yeah, plus we could learn to make custom exploding tags. Bigger boom, hotter boom, shaped charges, the works.>>42170984Some sort of gravity/resistance seal?
>>42170959Ah. I used to read the manga, and always thought those were tattooed straight onto his wrists because the color difference wasn't that pronounced.
>>42171009Actually I've been suggesting that for a while, as a gift for Tenten in return for more training in being a sneaky exploding weapons dude. I also sorta suggested blowing it up in combat.>>42171022The Uzumaki had a technique like that if memory serves.
>>42171009Why?It doesn't really fit either the "fight smarter not harder" or "when all else fails, blow shit up" elements f our style. It's a big, clunky sword that we have no training with whatsoever.
>>42171050Weighted clothing is a real thing, that works in a specific way, anon.We are not a Namekian, hell we're not even in the same SETTING, so what Piccolo does has no bearing on us.
>>42171066We could always sell it to make up for the fact that our Client is a lying cheat.
>>42171066I thought we were specializing with swords since we have that fancy hook whiped one. also isn't his sword one of those fancy 7 swords? i remember someone stealing it in the show, so it must be special somehow
>>42171009We didn't really have a chance. Haku was on the body pretty fast, we wouldn't have had time to take Zabuza's stuff. And it probably just didn't occur to us. Kon can't carry that thing, he wouldn't even think to try to take it.
>>42171101It worked with all those weapons we were carrying the other day.
>>42171138It is. Which is why we weren't going to take it in front of someone we thought was a Mist hunter-nin. You don't steal cultural treasures from someone recovering them from the last guy who stole them. Besides, we're not nearly strong enough to wield it. The thing's larger and heavier than we are. >>42171175Which we had attached all over our body, not just hanging from our shoulders. That's the point, that you need to distribute the weight or you won't get proper gains.
>>42171138A kyoketsu-shoge isn't a sword, dude. It's a dagger attached to a rope.>>42171175The ones we had strapped all over our body, in addition to the big ol' pile we were carrying?All a weighted poncho would do is give us Tien tier trapezii and shoulders, and a fuckload of back problems, because all that weight is gonna sit on the shoulders and nowhere else.
When we get weights, we need to make them explosive so that when we take them off, instead of just dropping them like Lee, we can throw them and cause a distraction with out speed increase.
>>42171066> our 'style'Our style so far doesn't exactly mean shit, anon. We're a fucking Genin. We're supposed to be expanding our horizons and growing in meaningful ways, experimenting with new shit; some of it will work, and some of it will not.But most of the people that follow this quest are all about 'our current style' and 'muh stats', so much so that we won't really ever evolve as a character, and I think that's pretty much par for the course with quest-goers on /tg/.
>>42171448Thus, why I advocated working on the basics. Ideally while interacting with other students like Tenten's team or team Guy.
At the moment we're just fast, and pretty good at Taijutsu. I think we do need to learn some jutsu, so we can change a scenario around, but at the moment, I think it just needs to be something hard-hitting. Given our disposition for explosions, and good chakra manipulation, some sort of chakra grenade. It doesn't need to be chidori or rasengan tier, just something of our own. And honestly causing an explosion with chakra doesn't seem to be too difficult to learn ourselves, and we can expand on it later when we're better with chain explosions, sticky grenades or delayed explosions.
>>42171448That sword is literally bigger than we are, and our strength is mediocre at best. We are NOT a powerhouse. We're some random schmuck genin who happens to be a clever fighter. Based on what information we have available to us, we will NEVER be able to take on the big name bloodline hax guys in a straight fight, and that sword is only useful FOR a straight fight. So we fight dirty. We should focus on getting better across the board, but that sword both doesn't help with that, and actively obstructs the use of clever tactics on our part by weighing more than we do.Now, IF we turn out to have our family's Kekkei Genkai (dad didn't have whatever it was, so who knows if we will) that might change things. But for now we need to plan as if we're gonna be a normal dude our whole life.
>>42171630Exploding fists were a thing in the show.
>>42171630>I think we do need to learn some jutsuAgreed, but the way that's going to happen is working on our hand signs and chakra control. We need to shore up our other fundamentals before we even START thinking about anything more complex than that. A chakra blade in an exotic sort of design could be cool. A chain mine with explosive tags could be cool. Sealing weapons into gauntlets/arm guards could be cool. But we're not at that point yet. So let's focus on the simple things for now, yeah?
>>42171763>>42171861And? It doesn't have to be super unique, just something we're likely to come up with in-character. All you have to do is imagine, we learn to manipulate our chakra more. We try to pile it all together at once, it becomes unstable, and explodes. We've just learn Boom-Jutsu
Guys, idea for clothing.Rifle green tactical turtleneck (tactleneck?), under a coyote brown flak vest with more pockets tan the standard issue.Coyote brown cargo pants.Boots with a spy movie toe-knife coated in the nastiest poison we can get our hands on.Green poncho in our gear for use in inclement weather.Watch cap.
>>42171448>But most of the people that follow this quest are all about 'our current style' and 'muh stats', so much so that we won't really ever evolve as a character, and I think that's pretty much par for the course with quest-goers on /tg/.To be fair, I want to learn sealing. If we eventually get gud enough with sealing, we might be able to learn Flying Thunder God, which would be awesome. If not, eh, we can still pack in ludicrous explosives.
Could we get a bucket and fill it with water, and try to stand on the water, whilst we guard Tazuna. I mean Kakashi's told us the tree climbing thing is the same principle, and it lets us stay near him to guard him. And let's face it, if we're staying fairly canon here, we've got 6 days with nothing to do.
>>42172102I like this idea, actually. A lot.It lets us get two things done at once.Hell, do squats while standing on the water while guarding Tazuna.
>>42171763>>42171885>>42171630Explosive Chakra is part of a Hidden Stone Bloodline
>>42172157Which is kind of lame as bloodlines go, since high enough concentrations of chakra will explode anyway as they ground out. I guess Explosion Release is just more efficient at it?
Wait!Laze I need a QM ruling on something.If we got good enough at pumping Chakra through our feet, how far could we push that?Could we get "running on rain/leaves/sand being blown by the wind" good? Could we get "run on the molecules that make up the air itself" good?
>>42171885You're not listening, anon. Kakashi even told us last thread that we need to work on chakra control before we even think about our nature affinity. If we want to learn new things, we HAVE to lay the groundwork first. That's all there is to it.
>>42172157Is it? Meh. I was just thinking like the Rasengan. I mean Naruto had no idea about the fourth using it, and it didn't require any specific nature to learn to use it. When he didn't quite get it, his hands were always scorched and injured during his training, and assumed that if you put too much chakra in one place it causes heat, which could lead to explosions.
>>42172216it had Nanobomb clouds, and Shape charge punchesDeidara had it and it was the source of all his explosive techniques.
>>42172237Air is just too empty, there's not enough to get a foothold
Didn't somebody mention archery a few threads back?That mite b cool if we do it right.Arrow covered in explosive tags, with a chakra-infused version of a VT Fuze (uses radar to detect when it's close to something, detonates just short of impact to maximize explosive effect) to set them all off.
>>42172243Then stop thinking like that.Shit's way into metagaming when we're trying to plan out our training based on techniques our character has no way to know exist.
>>42172292But is the rain/leaves/sand/whatever trick theoretically possible?
>>42172288The nanobombs were him combining it with a forbidden technique, those hand-mouths he had. They let you infuse any type of chakra into the clay to manipulate it more finely and do weird things with the constructs, he just happened to have explosive chakra to put into them.
>>42172237Like the Ripple?
>>42172332It would only work if there was enough to get a foothold, and they weren't too flimsyLike you could run on a stream of water, but some leaves in the wind just aren't steady enough, even if they were enough to support you
I kinda like the idea of two weapons at opposite ends of a long chain. Right now the hookshot thing we've got is more of a gimmick than a proper weapon.A kama on one end and a short sword on the other could be a useful combination, and would basically duplicate what we've got.
>>42172545I think this is a good idea, actually.Mostly because it's a compromise between swordfags and shogelfags.
>>42172545Eh. The only "weapon on a long chain" weapon where you actually ise the chain to swing the weapon half is the Okinawan Kusarigama (distinct from its Japanese cousin, on which the chain is meant to bind an opponents weapon or limbs so that you're free to lay into them with the kama).
>>42172545>>42172620But then both ends are too big and awkward to bind with, and that's the main advantage of a chain attached to your weapon.
>>42172669So use the head of the tool we've got now. Point is, we don't really have a real weapon. Just a gimmicky little blade on a rope.
>>42172743You keep getting this backwards. It's a rope on a blade, not a blade on a rope. You use the rope to bind, while still holding rhe knife, then shank with the knife. Putting a second blade at the other end is just asking to injure ourself.
>>42172545I'm not sure what's actually wrong with the kyoketsu-shoge we've got now. It's tricky enough for it to have worked against some jounin. There's room for improvement later when we learn chakra manipulation, so we can start moving the chain mid-air. And let's face it, Naruto is predominantly about magic powers, if we can't improve it with magic, then we can't improve anything else either.
>>42172743it's a dagger, Grapplinghook, rope dark, and garrote.the fact that it's a quirky weapon is a plus in the narutoverse.
>>42172820I'm not "getting it backwards", I'm suggesting we reverse it. Get ourselves a better weapon that can be used in a tricky way.And with this setup the sword end would stay in our hand while the other head entangles or distracts.
Think we can pull a 'Get over here!' Move with the kyoketsu? Or hook onto someone and pull them out of the way of an attack?
>>42172918If we're gonna do that then we should just disconnect them and have a sword in one hand, a kusari-fundo in the other. It can be hard to swing a sword properly when the hilt is tied to your enemy.
>>42173025Kinda what I was hoping to eventually be able to do with the spiked-chain-mine.
>>42172918Your fundamental premise is that it's somehow a bad weapon. In a series in which the main weapon is predominantly throwing knives, which in real life were essentially used as crowbars. Real life ability doesn't necessarily translate into shounen anime.
>>42173075The chain would still be in your left hand, meaning your right hand would have enough slack to maneuver the short sword.
>>42173190There's also the fact that you keep saying the kyoketsu-shoge isn't a "real weapon", and yet your "solution" for this is to replace the knife part with a sword, for no real reason. The only change you're making reeks of swordfaggotry.
>>42173275Can we try for the kusanagi? If we have to take the bullet for Sasuke and become Orochimaru's apprentice. Sasuke can train under Tsunade while Kiba will go with Jiraiya. Orochimaru's goal? Activating our father bloodline trait.With ninja science.
>>42173320Again, In this series swords get blocked by fucking kunai. Heck, senbon can get countered by other fucking senbon. The practicality of a weapon is irrelevant. If we want to use our kyoketsu-shoge in a sword fight, it will work just as well, if not better than a standard short-sword.
>>42173359>The proposal was to put the kyoketsu-shoge's rope end at the hilt of a sword, making it a double ended weapon with a length of chain or rope between them.So your proposal is even MORE retarded. The dagger end of the kyoketsu-shoge is too big (about two feet long when you include the length of the hilt) and awkwardly balanced (that second blade sticking out from the side) to be a good weighted end to the binding rope.
>>42173320Or we replace the rope with a chain. Done. Now we have the same weapon and the fucker can't just cut the rope.
>>42173589>How do you exploit that opening now?You stab them with the fucking Kyoketsu-Shoge, Here's a video on how you actually use one since you don't seem to understand.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryQlidIlVHo
>>42173589Or you can use your free hand to throw your Kunai, or Kunai with explosive tags, or you use your free hand to make the seals so you can use a jutsu. If anything having a weapon which requires two hands if a massive downside.
>>42173589Oh no you aren't allowed to delete your retardation buddy.>Okay, let's run with your apparent premise here that the kyoketsu-shoge can stand against any other weapon in the series. You throw it out, it tangles your opponent just like you should, and you trip them. They look like a fucking moron, and they're totally open.>How do you exploit that opening now?>Not only does having a short sword in your other hand give you that immediate follow-up, but it lets you be more flexible in how you fight because now you have a length of chain and a sword to use at a completely different spacing from how a thrown chain weapon would be used. Hell, going by your logic adding in an extra upgrade like that has no downside because "practicality is irrelevant". So why wouldn't we?
For close combat maybe tonfas would be a good choice. Lots of sword fighters in this series...Something defensive.
>>42173655To be fair, you guys have only really used it to bind so far
>>42173589Why not just wrist-mounted launchers, then?
>>42173704Don't be a cunt.
>>42173728Yes, but he has had the use of the weapon explained to him REPEATEDLY over the course of this argument.
>>42173754He's simply letting the thread see the post to which he is responding, since the swordfag wants to argue in bad faith by deleting a post which reveals his ignorance.
>>42173802I'm deleting my posts because I'm acknowledging defeat, because I actually went and looked at how the weapon in question was being used.So here you go, asshole. I was wrong. I misunderstood how the weapon works. I'm the idiot here. You win. Let it fucking drop already.
We could always wesponize yo-yos...Like the kid in Yu yu Hakusho that Kwuabara fought in the dark tournament...Add explosives...
Question. Why are some people so against the shoge having the shortsword part instead of a knife? Would that really be such a bad thing?
>>42173913That's not what the retard was saying, He was saying instead of having the ring part having a fucking shortsword on it.
>>42173883>rather than simply say "huh. I did not understand that that is what you were saying. My bad." like a grownup and moving on, I'm going to delete my posts like I somehow have a reputation to protectYou. Are. Anonymous. You just have to say "Oh. So THAT'S how that works." and disappear back into the horde of anons.>>42173913Personally, because that is the ENTIR GIMMICK of one of those seven legendary swords, so us just having one made is kinda setting violating.
>>42173957>>42173975Neither of you are what people'd call gracious winners, are you? Can't you all just... you know? Shut the fuck up?
>>42174007Welcome to /tg/ newfag!
>>42173975Hell, if you' just owned it, we would have all had a sensible chuckle and not gave a fuck. Deleting your posts in an argument is generally considered a violation of 4chan etiquette if you didn't violate any of the rules, and tends to piss people off.
>>42174007The post deletion sets people off, dude. Especially when you start acting like you're somehow being bullied when people point out said deletion.
>>42173897Or bouncy balls covered in tags, can't exactly predict the path, especially if they have a bit of weight to them.
Thoughts on napalm-esque/sticky-fire bombs?
>>42173975If you are talking about Nuibari then you are kinda wrong on that front. Nuibari is a needle like sword on a thin wire that had the gimmick of piercing. It could be thrown to pierce through multiple targets where a fast user could then run, catch, and then throw it again to use a 'sewing' like sword style which can then be used to literally stitch the bodies together by pulling the thread taut. Something we defintely could not do with a short sword instead of a knife on the shoge.
>>42174090I was actually thinking making just circular bombs with seals on them so that chakra can set them off.
>>42173975>disappear back into the horde of anonsFair point.
>>42174166Bit imagine the shock on their face when we "miss" them, it hits a tree, and they explode.
>>42174161if you're using chakra to do it then it's probably a Lava release technique(Fire+Earth)
>>42174161Really, I'd want to wait until we know our chakra nature before we come up with a long-term stylistic decision. I think we're getting ahead of ourselves trying to come up with cute/special weapons at this point.Just think, if we put our effort into firebombs or something and we find out our chakra nature could duplicate it easier and more effectively, it would mean we'd wasted our time.
>>42174255Boiling sand would also be quite fearsome, since it gets under clothes. >>42174313Eh, I'm just proposing possible bomb types since there's not much else to do while we wait for Laze.
>>42174313Lightning is always good if you're weapon of choice has a metal chain
>>42174420We probably won't have much choice. Either it'll be random or it's a kekkei genkai that's predetermined. But lucky enough chakra blades are a thing, and I see nothing in the rules that'd suggest you can't make a chain out of the stuff.Expensive, probably.
>>42174420Honestly i'd prefer fire, Since explosives AND it'd cover Kiba and Sasukes element/
>>42174465Fuck that. We're making a chain of tiny, barbed mines that can detach after wrapping around a limb.
I notice we have good stamina and decent ninjutsu. That makes for a good beginning puppet-user.
>>42174503I'm pulling for Boil. That release was never really explored as much as it could have been, but I can see it doing terrible things to people.Water clones that dissolve into acid? Fuck the hell yes!
>>42174503Fire is the most common element in Konoha, and Explosive chakra is an Earth+?(likely Lightning as Fire+Earth equals lava)
>>42174551I stand by it, being a puppet user might be a good choice for usEasy delivery for explosives and can suit it out with any equiptment we want, they dont even have to be a huge part of our ability roster just something we have
>>42174551>>42174614>Suna will surely teach one of its trademark techniques to some random Leaf genin!
>>42174747>Not noticing that puppets where for sale at TenTens placeSurely someone would know how to use them if they where for sale
>>42174614Even then, chakra control for the strings is the same thing we SHOULD be doing.Also, I wonder if using our chakra to control a ninja's body against their will would be a good trick to even the odds.
Just go through all these, so much utility in these thingshttp://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Karasuhttp://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kuroarihttp://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sansh%C5%8DuoAnd unlike the one trick pony's in canon we can learn other shit so that one of these could just be a surprise tactic we use in certain situations
Could be cool to make a chakra thread/chain with a tagged kunai on one end as a weight. You know, if we ever start to learn techniques like that.
>>42175024Puppets are specialization comparable ninjutsu or genjutsu focusTry to play any Naruto game as puppeteer and actually win to see how much of bitch they are
>>42175121You mean the games where anybody can beat literally anybody?Also puppeteers in those games are pretty easy once you get the mindset
>>42175024>>42175176We get it, you like puppets. But it doesn't seem practical right now, because we're a fresh genin who needs to work on his basic skills.
>>42174614I like puppets too but the puppeteer corps of suna are pretty unique. Nobody else seems to have access to any remotely similar abilities. I'm guessing the puppets themselves are really complicated to build. If the only obstacle was chakra control then puppets would be more common.
>>42175270I like puppets too, but I have to agree with this. We don't want to be a one-trick pony like Kankuro.
>>42175270We train with our nakama. Rock Lee for taijutsu. Tenten on weapons, Kakashi on one of his 1000 jutsus he knows and more.
So can we agree that getting all our stats to 2 and constantly improving our chakra control while searching for niche to fall into is good idea?
>>42175376Agreed. Not Lee though, Guy.
>>42175423Except, of course, our Genjutsu dumpstat.
>>42175453Genjutsu also dictates genjutsu resistance you knowEven Lee has 1.0 by Shippuden
>>42175533So, we are gonna make it past the time skip?
>>42175604I plan on taking the story as far as I can manage
>>42175626Awesome, I'm really enjoying this so far.
>>42175423Sounds like what I've been arguing for this whole time, so I'm in.>>42175376Tenten and Kakashi also know how to use seals. Specializing in just that would make us INFINITELY useful, and being any good at it would even be amazing.
>>42175533I think minimum genjutsu to become jounin is 2But only jounin that has 2 in genjutsu is Hiashi so I think it's actually 3
>>42175679Seals aren't that great manUnless you want us to go missing nin and become jinchuriki
I fucking hate wind by the way, easily my least favorite elementWay too much of it on this shitty fucking island
>>42176131It could be worseThere could be no wind and fuckhuge humidity with 35C
so if I've followed this correctly, we are a green haired explosives expert NOTHIPPIE who's catchphrase is "groovy"is that about right?
>>42175756>Seals aren't that great manFLG is a seal based technique.Also, the Uzumaki were wiped out because their seals were so terrifying.
>>42176242I'd be more scared of a walrus, personally
>>42176229No it was only one or two hippefags and they got shot down quick.
>>42176242Sorry, meant Flying Thunder God, aka probably the strongest non-bloodline technique in the verse, except maybe Impure Resurrection.
>>42176276They did make that soulreaper seal thingy. That was pretty terrifying.
>>42176354FTG is ninjutsu>>42176242They were wiped out because noone wanted clan that can actually make good seals to gain any of bijuu
>>42176781>FTG is ninjutsu...that uses seals extensively.>They were wiped out because noone wanted clan that can actually make good seals to gain any of bijuuI can't recall that being said ever, and it wouldn't make any sense since an uzumaki was the host of the 9 tails anyway. The were probably wiped out because they were Konoha's most powerful and loyal ally at the time.
>>42176166Humidity is the worst.
Is Laze still kill?
>>42177943Yup. The high wind warning expired, but there's still no power
>>42178009Should someone archive this for you?
>>42178009...did you know you can use your phone as a mobile hotspot?
>>42178076At least wait until it's at bump limitA thread can stay on the board for hours after that anyway
>>42178123It drains my battery like crazy. My phone likely won't last a whole lot longer as it is
>>42178187Ah, sorry to hear that.
>>42176229Nah, we're a hippie, you know it's okay to be one, just don't fight it.
>>42178187How about you just copy what posts you have so far and put them at the beginning of another thread?
>>42178386We said groovy one time in the first thread. I don't think being a hippie happens at 12 either.
>>42178632Tons of people have style at 12 in this anime.
Fuck this shit, I'm driving somewhere else and using their InternetSee you all in 30 minutes
>>42178959Alright, then. Cool.
For a moment I thought I had missed the thread, but then I see that Laze's town's power is out.Laze are you okay? I bring to you cute pictures of Kurama.
Let's talk about what we should avoid doingFor example we should avoid getting within five meters of Zabuza or anyone faster than usAnd unless we are faster than someone with higher strength than ours (Anyone who matters) we should avoid them tooWe should also avoid using explosives when close to our allies or things we are protectingFunfact: Hand seals stat in databooks affects things like explosive notes and curse marks too
>>42179599Handseal skills are the unsung hero of Naruto. Doing something without handseals is fucking huge. We should thank our hands by taking good care of them.
>>42179708Minato was a fucking beast simply because he could use a single jutsu really well without handseals. If we're going to model ourselves after character it should definitely be the yellow flash.
>>42179843>Implying yellow flash is good role modelRasen Senkō Chō Rinbukō Sanshiki!
Sorry to get your hopes up guysNo one has power for miles, I checked everywhereI'm just going to go to bedI'm pissed off though. As soon as my power comes back on I'm gonna run for like 18 fucking hoursKeep an eye on the twitter guys, see ya
>>42179929Okay, he isn't the best at naming things, but other than that he's a badass.
>>42179976Sorry to hear that, Laze. Sleep well, we'll see you later.
>>42179976I will keep the thread alive for you while you sleep. Have sweet dreams, Laze.
>>42180053It's at bump limit anyway
>>42179976Have a good sleep boss. Dream of grey green hair
>>42180143I thought 300 was bump limit?
>>42180153And ninja armor with ponchos
>>42180053I do not know how to deal with an adorable puppy Nine Tails. It worries me somehow.
>>42180185You pets him and takes good care of him.
Rage against the dying of the light!(heh, poor Laze)
>>42179976What shithole island is this I wonder?
>>42182047Ah. Nice part of the country when the weather isn't shit. Down here it was about 99 degrees.
>>42182310Yeah. I complain about the wind, but I like it here. I don't deal with heat well.By the way, would someone make sure this gets archived? Not that a whole lot of questing actually got done, but for continuity at least
>>42182620Which archive you use?
>>42182763He uses suptgTags areCollective Game, Leaf Ninja Quest, Naruto
>>42182763I've been putting them on suptg
>>42182872Good as done, brother.
>>42182872>>42182878Seems like someone beat me to it. Probably for the best, since I numbered it 7 by mistake.
>>42182951Thanks anywayAnd thanks to that anon
Good thing we agreed to how we look!Greenish silver hair with rainbow poncho and old clan wars era armor underneath!
>>42183518Character theme song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQDK6x1i8jY
>>42180288I will not let this die!>>42183518Anon pls. Green silver hair is fine by a rainbow poncho doesn't fit with actual Naruto fashion.
>>42183738>he doesn't want to have a gigantic recognizable target that we can use as an impromptu shadow clone/replacement jutsu
>>42183801We don't even HAVE Shadow Clone, dingus.
I actually would prefer black hair, green eyes, etc. over any other option. Basically nondescript aside from the creepy smile.
>>42184101We'd basically just look like Sai then.
So we all can agree that we should try to marry Kaguya right?
>>42183991Basically, we can use it to conceal stuff, it makes a great distraction, and we could look like a horrid technicolor nightmare.>>42183738Naruto wears an orange suit, we can't get much less fashionable than that.
>>42184228Tenten seems more in line with our character. And it would be a badass combo of explosions and weapons. Kaguya is at the bottom of my list.
>>42184228>implying Kaguya would ever notice a mortal to be anything more than a speck of dust, unless they've inherited her son's chakra.anon try to be reasonable
>>42183518when was a poncho ever agreed upon?or are you just one of those hippie shitposters who seem dedicated to trying to wreck the quest by putting words into others mouths.
>>42184272>we can use it to conceal stuffThey have these things that you keep stuff in, where people can't see what's inside them until you pull it out. They're called "pockets", and the standard Konoha flak vest has them.>it makes a great distractionNot really. The best we could do is throw it at someone and hope they're enough of an amateur to be distracted by it and not just swat it away.>we could look like a horrid technicolor nightmareAnd this is a good thing, how?>>42184272>Naruto wears an orange suit, we can't get much less fashionable than that.Yes we can. At least his track suit is color coordinated. Looking like a walking pride parade is just stupid and tacky for the sake of "so randumb".
>>42184433I wasn't advocating it, there are virtues to the idea, but I'd rather it be a normal poncho. Then again, I'm of the opinion that the more stuff we can line with tags, the better.
>>42184433This. Naruto has solid fashion despite some of the colors used. It's a bright unninja color, but most of the ninja in this series tend to tame their clothing as they grow up. Hell, it's peace time anyway. That and real ninja shouldn't need to rely on mere colors to hide themselves. Ninja technology has come much farther than that!
>>42184481A normal poncho in a color that works with the rest of our design could be a good thing to have for inclement weather (it'll see a lot of use if we wind up doing Clash in the Land of Snow), but wearing one at all times is silly.
>>42184182Sai was nice and nondescript aside from his rather uncomfortably tight uniform. >>42184313Definitely the case. Tenten was also the first character to really open up to Kon about anything personal, which seems important.>>42184481I always thought as standard a uniform as possible would be best. Fly under the radar, creep a few people out, then blow up all of the things.
>>42184535Well yeah, but when you look at it, a poncho is just a blanket with a hole in it. That makes it great to bring for night watch duty and sleeping. It is a piece of equipment like anything else.
>>42184573Yeah, cold is a form of inclement weather, and that's what it's for. Just like we should have a heavier coat (possibly hooded?) and pants for winter, and lighter wear for when it gets hot.Our style should be a set of general guidelines and one or two key "always have 'em" accessories, with us dressing to the weather.
>>42184628Yeah, people wearing the same clothes all the time is a little odd. Maybe we should keep it down to just normal color scheme and a green wool poncho for weather.
>>42184687Possibly a green wool poncho for regular cold, and a heavier white one we bring for when we expect snow.
>>42184551Yeah, Tenten is definitely the only girl we have met in quest, but Metagaming to know all the others says she's the least bitchy option. And no, I don't think Tsunade is even close to an option
>>42184687Konoha probably issues gear for inclement weather.
>>42184710>actual camouflageNo, let's wear an orange outfit that everyone could see for miles around. It's funny that so many people in the series rely on techniques before actually preparing for stuff. Like weather. Or gas. Or literally anything.
>>42184770Actual camouflage is bad idea for when we go to cities and stuff
>>42184871>CitiesUrban Camouflage is a thing anon.
>>42184889And is actually pretty shitty. There's a reason the military has never bothered with it. Concealment trumps camouflage and is ABUNDANT in cities.
>>42184938It's mostly just to break up the human silhouette, anyway.
>>42185241And before camo in cities came up nobody was discussing pattern camo, just "colors that somewhat match the scenery" camouflage.
>>42185265True. I simply meant that the exact colors are more of a fiddly little detail anyway. Besides, it's Naruto. Doesn't matter that much.
>>42170283>>42178009Sounds like someone might live in Washington. Had to deal with gale force winds and power outtages today too (around 10 AM to 5 PM Pacific)