You are Sallazar, a young wizard who has recently left the army. You have taken a teaching job at Egwen Girls Convent.In addition the Headmaster of the school wants you to run the schools adventurers club, to give some of the schools more unusual girls something fun to do.The Adventurers Club http://pastebin.com/t467eb4qSheets in Excel https://www.dropbox.com/s/ba1zu710zhochvr/Character%20sheets.xlsx?dl=0#_=_Classes and Races http://pastebin.com/wCst2V8BQuest Rules http://pastebin.com/RG9EAvPqMain Character http://pastebin.com/xHFh2iz2Setting http://pastebin.com/ej98zdgDContinent Map http://ibin.co/260vHqwvCza9QM Twitter https://twitter.com/anAspiringQMQM Askfm http://ask.fm/AnAspiringQMArchive http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Egwen%20School%20QuestAnd https://archive.moe/tg/search/username/Pally/type/op/“Professor! Professor Sallazar!” A student comes running towards you as you head down to breakfast.Its the start of a new week and you were just heading down to the mess hall, until this happened.“Calm down” you say to the distraught-looking girl “what is it?” you think she might have been in one of your classes but the name escapes you. She is an ordinary-looking tiefling girl. Or she would be if she didn’t look so upset.“It’s- she’s-” She starts babbling.“Slow down” you say, taking her by the shoulders “take a deep breath and explain slowly.”“It’s Lucy” she says “we were in the bathroom and part of the roof fell in, she’s trapped in there all alone in the dark, Professor, please help her!”“Lead the way!” you order her. “And what’s your name?”“Deana Sir” she says “please, hurry.”She leads you to one of the girls bathrooms, some ways away from the main corridors. Hmm, why so far away? A suspicious part of your mind asks. But then that explains the falling roof another part of you thinks, some of the less inhabited areas are crumbling.
You knock on the door with your staff “Lucy?” you ask. You hear nothing.“Lucy its me!” yells Deana “I bought Professor Sallazar – he can help you.”Very faintly you here from inside a voice gasp out “please, help....”“I’m coming!” you yell, bursting into the room. Girls bathroom or not, if a student is in danger then you’re not going to hesitate! The door swings closed behind you, trapping you in darkness. In retrospect that was a hint that something was wrong.In the darkness you can’t see anything. You prepare to cast a single light spell, only you think there’s someone standing in front of you and approaching, far too quickly! You can’t see but you can hear footsteps.Years of paranoid reflexes take over and you cast a spell, trapping your would-be assailant in a globe of magical force energy.You hear an indignant “hey!” and you cast another spell, one that should have lit up the place, instead nothing happens, huh, that can only mean...You dispel the darkness spell shrouding the entire room. The girls bathroom looks in good order, no collapsed roof, no damage, nothing untoward.Trapped in your globe of force energy is Lucinda. She doesn’t look hurt, she looks to be in violation of the schools dress code again: Her skirt is far too short and her blouse is untied, giving you a glimpse of a rather generous chest. She is pushing against the wall of the force globe, looking annoyed.“Really Lucinda” you say, folding your arms “what’s all this about?”“Uh” Lucinda pauses in the globe of force and gives you a charming smile, appearing so appealing that her innocence or guilt is irrelevant.You heart-rate rises and your breathing quickens as you feel a strong stirring of attraction for this beautiful girl, then you close your eyes and take a moment to control yourself.As you do Lucinda says “just a harmless prank sir, I was going to dump a bucket of water on you, silly but that’s dares for you right?”
You look around, you can’t see any bucket, in the globe of force or otherwise. Outside you hear someone running away.What do you do?>Just go to breakfast (exclusive)>Deduct credits for trying to attack a teacher (5 default, or write-in)>Demand to know what she was actually doing>Free her>Other (what?)---[Meta]New Martial Arts Styles added to class pastebinXP has been spent, pastebins to update shortly.I am struggling with a new laptop running Windows 10, this may slow me down a bit.[End Meta]
>>41586941>Deduct credits for trying to attack a teacher (5 default, or write-in)>Demand to know what she was actually doing
>>41586941>Deduct credits for trying to attack a teacher (5 default, or write-in)>Demand to know what she was actually doingSilly girl.
>>41586941>Deduct credits for trying to attack a teacher>Demand to know what she was actually doing
>>41586941>Deduct credits for trying to attack a teacher (5 default, or write-in)>Demand to know what she was actually doing> Cast Disobedience on yourself
>>41586941>>Deduct credits for trying to attack a teacher (5 default, or write-in)>>Demand to know what she was actually doing
>>41586941>Deduct credits for trying to attack a teacher (20)>Demand to know what she was actually doingWe gave Evrumine and Chame a bigger credit deduction for just cheating, she tried to use mind-altering magic against us.
>>41586941Why is going to breakfast and Point deduction mutually exclusive? They hardly take up more time.
>>41586941>>41587015adding >Cast Mind-Blank/Disobedience
>>41587056going to breakfast means leaving her as she is - trapped until you come back.You could deduct points with that too I suppose - but you would also have the option to do so after coming back.
>>41586941>Deduct credits for trying to attack a teacher (5 default, or write-in)>Demand to know what she was actually doing>Mind Blank/Disobedience
>>41586941>Demand to know what she was actually doing
Going with demand, credits and Disobedience spell, writing
You cast a quick spell to protect yourself in the event of her trying to control your mind. If she tries then she'll think she succeeded...“What was that spell?” Lucinda asks curiously from within the force globe.“Just something to keep me awake” you say “now Lucinda” you continue in a stern tone “I think that's going to cost you five credits for trying to attack a teacher”“But I wasn't!” she protests, her eyes going wide.“So, what were you actually doing?” you ask, leaning against the bathroom wall as Lucinda continues to explore the surface of the nearly-invisible globe she’s trapped in, as if looking for a way out.“A prank sir” she explains“No bucket” you counter“Umm, mistaken identity...?” she says “So you were planning on dumping a non-existent bucket of water on another student?” you ask, trying not to smile“I was sleepwalking” she tries another explanation“Well” you say, looking her up and down “congratulations on being able to get dressed whilst sleeping.”She grins “Well if that’s your price for letting me out of this thing...” And slowly reaches her hands towards her midsection and starts pulling the bottom of her shirt out of her waistband.What do you do?>Stay silent, see how far she'll go (exclusive)>Leave (exclusive)>Free her>Keep pushing for an explanation>Tell her to keep her clothes on >Other (what?)New Evrumine Art from LimeBreaker
And another, yes it is different
>>41587360>Cast Degrade Armor (disintegrate her clothes)>get Busay~
>>41587360>>Keep pushing for an explanation>>Tell her to keep her clothes onThis is playing out like a bad romance novel. Also a good way to get a teacher in deeeep trouble.
>>41587360>Tell her to keep her clothes on>Keep pushing for an explanation
>>41587360>Tell her to keep her clothes onDeliberately violating dress code would be another 5 credits.>Keep pushing for an explanation
>>41587360>Keep pushing for an explanation>Tell her to keep her clothes on The latter first.
>>41587417You sir are a dirty man.So am I, second.
>>41587481>>41587417Pushing for a bad end?No thanks. Wait till they are graduated to hit on them.
>>41587360>Tell her to keep her clothes on>Keep pushing for an explanationTake away further credits for violating the dress codeWould be nice if we would have Hold Person or similar.>>41587449>Also a good way to get a teacher in deeeep trouble.Normally yes, but not in place where the Headmaster can literally detect lies.Though yes, the attempt to set us up for a emberassing situation is rather transparent.
>>41587360>Keep pushing for an explanation>Tell her to keep her clothes on
>>41587516Its not a actually existing spell.
explanation + clothes onnplease roll 1d20+11 fellowship (teaching)
Rolled 13 + 11 (1d20 + 11)>>41587602I would have thought it would take Intimidation.
Rolled 18 + 11 (1d20 + 11)>>41587602
Rolled 20 + 11 (1d20 + 11)>>41587602
>>41587609It will be if this one doesn't work, currently you're asking nicely.
>>41587637Well, no panic then >>41587632
>>41587377>braUh, wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't said it.
“I'm still waiting for an explanation” you say “a truthful one.”Lucinda keeps pulling her shirt out of her waistband, slowly.“And deliberately violating the dress code will cost you another five credits” you say nonchalantly.Lucinda stuffs her shirt back into her waistband with a grumpy look “You're ruining the moment” she says sulkily.“In this moment all I want is an explanation” you say, adding as she quickly opens her mouth “the truth, please.”Lucinda rolls her eyes, the story comes out in one big verbal rush “ok fine, so the other day you told a class about your gay lover and unlike the other male teachers we've had you haven't been a perv so there was a betting pool on you being guy-only. Now Evvy tried to claim the winnings and she bet you're a virgin but the verdicts still out so Sarrissa bet you're gay and a virgin and no one could claim the pot so I had to prove it.”“Prove it how?” you try and untangle whsat she just said “by grabbing me in the dark?”“Yeah” says Lucinda, nodding “and reading your mi-er kissing you, yes kissing you and seeing how you reacted.”“Reading my mind huh?” you say “Lucinda how many other peoples minds have you read?”“None, I , misspoke, I didn't say anything about reading minds” says Lucinda, scrambling for any excuse “I meant reading your mi-aleness and...” She continues to dig herself in deeper, looking panicky.Students reading each others mind through magic is a pretty serious offence, one that could lead to expulsion depending upon how the information was then used.But still, something's not right...as a succubus soulborn that is a power she could have, but why attack you in the dark? In theory she should be able to read your mind at a distance.
Now the prohibition on mind-reading doesn't extend to teachers reading students minds – if you have cause then its not against the rules. But what harm could she have done reading others secrets? A few test answers, juicy gossip – and she volunteered to get your secrets, so she's hardly kept this ability secret from the other girls.What do you do?>Take her to the Headmaster>What other male teachers?>Use Probe Thoughts to find out what she wanted from your mind>Use Probe Thoughts to find out what other minds she has read>Use Probe Thoughts to find out something else (what?)>Keep her secret but demand payment (what?)>Other (what?)
>>41587935>What other male teachers?>Offer her she can truthfully tell us what she wanted from our mind and how she has used her ability before, or we take it to the Headmaster together and find out there
>>41587935>What other male teachers?>Use Probe Thoughts to find out what she wanted from your mind
>>41587935>Use Probe Thoughts to find out what she wanted from your mind>Keep her secret but demand payment (Half of the jackpot.)
>>41587935>OtherHow are you able to read minds?>Use Probe Thoughts to find out what she wanted from your mind>Use Probe Thoughts to find out what other minds she has read
>>41587935>What other male teachers?>Ask her what she really wanted from our mnd, threaten use of Probe thoughtsAs long as we have no reason to think she has actually done anything bad enough, I see no reason to not leave her the privacy of her mind.Two wrongs don't make a right.
>>41587935>>Use Probe Thoughts to find out what she wanted from your mind>>Use Probe Thoughts to find out what other minds she has read
closing and counting
I think the write-in wins, its tied with other votes on its own and >>41588068 seems to be along a similar theme.Now its initimidate time please roll 1d20+5
Rolled 15 + 5 (1d20 + 5)>>41588157
Rolled 7 + 5 (1d20 + 5)>>41588157
Rolled 17 + 5 (1d20 + 5)>>41588157
Ok, writing it. In the meantime, feel free to discuss her punishment.Long Story Short: She has done some expulsion-worthy stuff (technically, just) and Sallazar could march her to the Headmaster for punishment (since only the HM can actually expel students), proscribe some sort of punishment himself (loss of credits, kitchen/laundry duties etc), a token punishment plus Lucinda owing him somehow, or something else.
>>41588312>Punishment: put a hex on her that prevents her from reading people's minds
>>41588377This, and i suppose mandatory ethics class's maybe? Something full of mind numbing tedium with a gem or two shuffled in.
>>41588312All things considered expulsion isn't really a option, and I'm fairly sure the Headmaster wouldn't do it anyway, since the girls are hardly safe outside the school.Give her a while kitchen duty, few months, and talk to the Headmaster about a geas to prevent her from being able to use any sort of mind-reading except when feeling legitematly threatened.
>>41588312Lets just take her to hm. He is a reasonable guy, he will decide what to do. If its that serious we need to report this anyway.
>>41588377I find this reasonable, may take some time to craft the spell. Assuming that a geas wouldn't suffice for that.
>>41588377No anon, no. That won't change anything. It will only debilitate her and make her crave mind reading more.
>>41588459>It will only debilitate her and make her crave mind reading more.If its so bad she "needs" mind-reading, then it certainly is about time it gets locked down for her.That ain't healthy.In any case we will have to discuss with the hm anyway before putting permanent enchantments on the students.
She's on the list, so just remember that no matter what she's done she is a daughteru-potentate in need of help.
>>41588312Take her to HM. Advocate for Geas to keep her from mind reading, an Ethics class, and Give her janitorial duty.
>>41588486locking someones skills and abilities away permanently would be a foolish idea. This is a school, teach her to use them responsibly instead. Locking them for a month or so before she is allowed it back would be fine.
>>41588502Man, I'm so tempted to bullshit somethig about recruiting her for the adventurer club to teach her responsible use of her abilities.
>>41588549Do it, it's better than a hex or a geas.
>>41588538>locking someones skills and abilities away permanently would be a foolish ideaNo, when it comes to mind-reading its certainly something she shouldn't be using here. At all.And its not like she accidently mindread people or doesn't know how to use them.
>>41588549It's not even bullshit, learning to control and use your natural powers responsibly is a significant part of the club.
>>41588582Well, its 'sort of' bullshit since it doesn't really relate that much to this, and she is certainly going to make a lot of trouble there.I'm going to hold my verdict until we know exactly what she has actually done.
>>41588567Then lock them while on school grounds. Just not Permo life long.
>>41588613>Just not Permo life long.Obviously it would be lifted when she leaves school, afterwards its her own responsibility.Incidentally the only argument I can see against geas/hex would be that if we lock them down she can never really be taught to not use them when she can.
>>41588643To be fair, that's a pretty good argument.
>>41588643Your only argument for lock it up is that she shouldn't use it. It's not a very good one.
>>41588643Well i suppose we could link any geas to a permission by teachers while on school grounds kind of deal. But again, i would rather not geas her at all if it can be avoided.
>>41588675>Your only argument for lock it up is that she shouldn't use it. It's not a very good one.That someone shouldn't do something is a pretty good argument for making that someone incapable of doing that.>>41588659It actually is, if keep thinking about it. Unless she did something actually bad, I'm probably gonna go for daughteru acquiration.
>>41588312Does this school have something like ethics classes?
>>41588746Not really.the closest is lots of lines written over and over again in a style of *I must not do X*.This is not that advanced a school syystem.
>>41588827>This is not that advanced a school syystem.Dunno about advanced, but since the entire point of the school was educating particularly "problematic" soulborn and how to use their powers, something like that would have seemed farfetched to me.I suppose Sallazar has to be the ethic class then.
“Lucinda” you say calmly “you can tell me now what you wanted from my mind, and if you've ever used this ability before. Your answers may get you punished, but coming forwards and admitting your errors will count in your favour.”Lucinda gives you a stubborn look and then mirrors you, folding her arms and leaning against the inside of the force globes wall.“I didn't do nothing” she says in a tough-girl voice you'd expect to hear from Kittrane.“Or we can go to the Headmaster and find out anyway” you say evenlyThe two of you lock gazes for a long moment. Lucinda looks away first.“I found out a few girls secrets” she says “and y'know, made trouble for them.”“What sort of secrets?” you ask.She shrugs “who likes who, who is scared of who, who is bed-er, who is kissing who, just y'know, personal stuff.”“And how much trouble did you make?” you ask.Lucinda grins “I'm not the only one who can” she says “most of the other succubus soulborn can, and a few of the daughters of succubus soulborn, I'm just better. They do that stuff to the other girls – I do it to them and they never figure it out because they think their own minds can't be read. But a touch, or a small kiss and my powers work much better on someone.”Huh, well it sounds like she picked deserving targets at least, but still, a group of mind-reading students is a fairly serious problem, because...“Have you ever used it in exams?” you ask.“No! Of course not!” Lucinda responds too quickly “why ever would you think that sir?” But her eyes are darting and she's tense.“Lucinda” you say “all it takes is one trip to the Headmasters and you could be out, so, did you cheat on any exams?”As slapdash as the school credit system can be sometimes, the exams are taken seriously and cheating of any kind punished harshly. You don't think the Headmaster would expel the students casually, but she doesn't know that.
“It was only the one time!” she protests “It was a History test and I meant to study but this really cute girl caught my eye and um, we spent all evening uh...not studying. Professor I've never done it any other time!”You think she's telling the truth, but you're not completely sure. Cheating in exams is expulsion-worthy. You don't have the power to – only the Headmaster or Acting Headmaster does. You doubt Sir Sarum would kick her out just for that, but he could, in theory.“So what did you want from my mind?” you ask. Lucinda answers easily, as if its a minor thing “Oh, you know” she says “the time you spent with that Telam guy.”“Tellaric” you correct her without thinking “His name was Tellaric”“Oh so you were a couple” she says impishly “Knew it.”You're quiet but your mind is racing. If she knew, if she had found out! Those are not your secrets and you agreed to keep them! This is bad, this could have been bad, you correct yourself. She didn't actually see what Tellaric was after, what the pr- you squash that line of thought.To buy yourself time you ask “what other male teachers?”Lucinda grins “Oh we get a few each year” she says “sooner or later they make a pass at one of the girls...particularly the succubus soulborn and then the next day they're gone...the skeletons sometimes clear out their rooms.”Oh lovely...“And of these teachers” you say “how many of them were ah, enticed, into making a pass at the girls?”Lucinda shrugs “dunno” she says.You have everything you need to know, you think. Lucinda's main mind-reading activities are fairly benign – playing games against other mind-readers. Really they are the bigger concern right now.On the other hand she has cheated on a test and could face severe punishment. And you really cannot afford to have some of your secrets revealed. Dwarven military secrets aside, there are some things you really must keep secret.
You could march her to the Headmaster and have him hand down a harsh punishment, but she might (possibly) get expelled.You could proscribe some sort of harsh punishment yourself: loss of credits, lines about mind-reading; laundry or lavatory-cleaning. This should scare her into not reading your mind again, or any others.You could use magic to curtail her mind-reading, as an abjurer you can alter some of your spells enough to do that. [Meta: an example would be a version of Mind-Blank that prevents mind-affecting spells from being cast by the target. Geas could also work]You could also give her some token punishment on the understanding that she owes you big. You could have her spy on the other succubus soulborn, join the adventurers club or make her do your laundry, or some other useful task.You could also do something else.What do you do?>Go to Headmaster, let him decide>Restrict her powers using magic (how?)>Harsh punishment (what?)>Token punishment (what is she to do for you?)>Other (what?)Using magic can be combined with other options.Almost all options have sub-options. If there is a majority I'll go with it, or call a follow-up vote if not.
>>41589107>Harsh punishment (Lavatory and Laundry cleaning, mandatory lessons about Ethics with us.)
>>41588867Very true, just that the school has a simpler approasch to ethics along the lines of *don't do this because it upsets the gods/its bad just cause/you get punished*
>>41589107>Token punishment (what is she to do for you?She has to clean up after the Adventurer's Club after each and every day of practice. Keep the weapons polished, training equipment spotless, and make sure the girls have enough water to drink. For a month.If she slacks in this duty in any way, shape, or form, her mind-reading powers will be curtailed by our own spells for a year.
>>41589107>Token punishment>Adventurer club, and she helps us with other students that use their mindreading maliciously
>>41589107>Token punishment>>41589159this one, in addition to telling us when other soulborn use their mindreading against others
>>41589107>Token punishment>Adventurer club, and she helps us with other students that use their mindreading maliciouslyOn the condition that she never uses it on us, or spreads any of our secrets, or else the full nine yards will come out.
>>41589107>Token punishment (what is she to do for you?)>"Reporting" on other mind-reading girls, and either >She has to clean up after the Adventurer's Club or>Join the clubHer choice
>>41589107>Adventurer clubRecruit her, only.
>>41589200>or else the full nine yards will come out.Oh my.
closing, looks like having her join the club + help you with the other mind-reading girls is the winner, but checking count.
>>41589305Can we strong-arm her into training to become a paladin?Because that might be the most fitting form of punishment out there.
>>41589341You can encourage her to become a particular class, yes.But why would Sallazar want any girl to be a sub-optimal non-wizard?
>>41589363>But why would Sallazar want any girl to be a sub-optimal non-wizard?They need to learn the hardship of lesser classes to truly appreciate how superior wizardry is?
>>41589341Why? That's a terrible fit for Lucinda.
>>41589499Its not really a terrible fit. She got high-fellowship and decent willpower.A Paladin/Bard combo would be a pretty powerful support.
>>41589499It has useful abilities for just about every possible build.
>>41589499What these anons said.>>41589523>>41589538And it would be hilarious to see a mind-reading succubus play as a valiant paladin defender of truth and temperance.
>>41589499>[Insert comment about useful immunity to diseases]
“Another five credits off” you say “for what you've done.”Lucinda gives you a sceptical look “that seems a little light” she says, then adds quickly “not that I'm complaining, uh, learned my lesson yes siree only ethical uses of my powers from now on and-”“And” you say “You'll also be spending a lot of time with me in-”“Bed?” she asks with a grin.“The adventurers club” you say.“Aww no!” she protests “That bunch of meatheads and nerds, no, why?”“You can join” you say “or spend a month cleaning ALL of the equipment after every session.” You're not really going her a choice, just showing her the stick.“Ok fine” she says, pulling a face “anything else?”“And you're going to help me with this group that's going around reading everyone's minds” you say.Lucinda grins “And I thought you were boring” She raises her hand as if to offer it to shake, only the force globe still entraps her “say partner could you let me out of your cage?” she flutters her eyelashes at you and your heartbeat speeds up again.You cancel the spell “start coming up with names and lists of misdeeds” you say “because I could still have you-”“Whipped?” she grins, linking her arm through yours as you both go to breakfast.“Punished, severely” you say as your cheeks start to heat up “stop that!”“Stop what?” asks Lucinda, hugging your arm to her so that her breasts rub up against you as you walk.“You know exactly what” you say, as you try to suppress your blush and fail. “Stop doing...that. You should use your intelligence to deal with people, not anything else”“Oh but Sir” she draws out the word “I hate thinking” She rubs up against you some more “its hard.”Yes it is...---At breakfast you see all of Team Fell-Storm, no, the entire club, sat together. Huh, that's...good.
Unfortunately you only have enough time to grab a quick bite before they're off to classes, but Kittrane does make a point to walk past you and say “We've got a strategy, can you get us out of a class this afternoon?”You could, easily, but you also have a lot of other things to do.What are you doing around lunchtime, after morning classes?>Club strategy session>Making items (standard list or write-in)>Tutor girl (which?)>Recruit girl (which?)>Work on school wards>Speak to Headmaster about mind-reading girls>Speak to your new tutors (which?)>Recruit tutor (which?)>Other (what?)
>>41589736>>Club strategy session
>>41589736>Club strategy sessionTO THE WAR ROOM
>>41589736>Club strategy session
I wonder which option wonwriting
Well now, this is getting interesting. After morning lessons you tell the other teachers that the girls in your club, including your newest recruit, will be missing their first afternoon lesson.You all grab lunch and head over to the club building for an extended planning session.It seems Kittrane really does have a plan, and whilst its not perfect...you've heard worse. By the Hells, you've even had to carry out stupider plans than this.“So you're splitting the party?” Anlanesa asks Kittrane. You've all pulled some tables together to make one big one and are sat around talking, your lunches finished.“Only if needed” says Kittrane “The plan is that we get in, don't get seen, get the princess and get out.”“You didn't say we'd be rescuing a princess” says Lucinda, suddenly paying attention “do you do this stuff every weekend? Is the Princess hot?”Kittrane glares at her “we've already picked the team Slutcinda” she growls“Kittrane” you admonish her, she doesn't seem to notice.Lucinda doesn't seem affected by Kittranes insult “Always room for one more darling” She says “no matter how small the bed” Noting your look of disapproval she adds “it gets cold in winter Sir, you'll soon be wanting someone to keep you warm too.”“Anyway” says Cleya, “back to the plan – Kittrane.” Kittrane gives her rival for leadership a quick nod “ok, so yeah, that's the ideal, but we all know that won't happen. Now the reason Raid Rush wants a match is to fight us” she nods at Phoebe and Evrumine “So they'll be heading for us rather than the Princess, if they find us, then Phoebe and I hold them off, whilst Evrumine and Nevyn get the princess to safety.”“Wait, wait” says Phaysis “what if they don't? What if they get to the Princess first?”“Then the plan is the same” says Kittrane “Two fight – the ones that Raid Rush wants to fight – and two grab the Princess and run.”
“Why not just smash them all then run?” asks Safire hesitantly, shrinking when the others turn to her.“Because” Cleya explains “its in a giant lair – any loud noises will bring them down on you. Kittranes right, this is a stealth mission rather than combat.” “Ok” says Janrael “so team Evil Wannabe's-”“Team Fell Storm, duh!” Nevyn corrects her.“Whatever” says Janrael “so Nevyn and Evrumine chuck Her Royal Prissyness over their shoulders and run, and Syphoebeus and the Kitten” Kittrane growls at that “just bust heads?”“Worked last time” points out Evrumine.“Yeah but this time they'll be ready” says Kittrane “if I was them I'd be working on getting stronger, fighting smarter and getting whatever strength and toughness-boosting items I could.” She pauses, then says “which is why Syphoebeus and I will be concentrating on magical abilities this week – anything that can slow then down, distract them or knock them out.”“I still think just hammering them will work” says Evrumine.“No Kittrane is right” says Cleya “use magic.”“Why not pure stealth?”asks Chame “disregard fights, grab princess, acquire victory.”The girls all look at one another, finally Calluna says “Sir, what do you think?”What should the battle plan (and thus training plan) be?>Support Kittrane (Stealth/Magic)>Support Evrumine (Physical Might)>Support Chame (Stealth)>Other plan (what?)
>>41590594>Support Kittrane (Stealth/Magic)Its pretty good plan, though I would suggest she and Phoebe split magic/fighting training between them, so only one of them focuses mostly on magic while the other beefs up the fighting too.
>>41590594>Support Kittrane (Stealth/Magic)
>>41590594>>Support Kittrane (Stealth/Magic)She's the lead, support her.
>>41590594>Support Chame (Stealth)
>>41590594>Support Evrumine (Physical Might)
>>41590594>Support Kittrane (Stealth/Magic)Also, we should probably be looking to set up our second squad soon, right? The other club members are going to start feeling a little left out.
>>41590594>Support Lucinda (Seduce/Control)
>>41590722>Also, we should probably be looking to set up our second squad soon, right?They don't need a second team, but we should definitly send all the new ones through a dungeon soon, yeah thefocus has been too much on Fel Storm.
>>41590722Seconded, it should be a priority once this fight is over.
Looks like we got a planComing in next update: Which girls can qualify as minions?And: Will the club start a new team?Note the team vote is a discussion, not a route-lock
>>41590757I see no reason why we should wait until after this fight. We need to set up the dungeon in advance anyway, so we can already tell the Daves to build one ASAP. There is no reason the other girls should do nothing while Fel Storm prepares.
>>41590807>And: Will the club start a new team?Do they 'need' to form a team before even all members have been in a dungeon? Seems pretty premature to me. We should first make sure everyone has dungeon experience, run the girls through dungeons in different constellations so they can see who gets along with who.
>>41590807>And: Will the club start a new team?Can't we rather get a vote on who goes into the next trainings dungeon? Seems more important to me.
>>41590829>Do they 'need' to form a team before even all members have been in a dungeon? Seems pretty premature to me. We should first make sure everyone has dungeon experience, run the girls through dungeons in different constellations so they can see who gets along with who.This. We should gather the remaining girls together, let them talk amongst themselves, then try out different combinations in practice runs until they get comfortable.>>41590807>Which girls can qualify as minions?Chame, Calluna, Lucinda
>>41590807Lucinda- succuslutCaluna- summoned abberantPhaysis - Mount if we can geter to agreeChame- Surprise bomb/stealth minion>
>>41590807Wait, we get minions on a princess rescue? I don't think that makes sense.
>>41590880>Mount if we can geter to agreeYeah, nah.I don't think a mimic counts as evil minion under the evil team rules.So it would be Calluna(as vampire again) and Lucinda as fiend.
>>41590914I think the whole "team mates can be minions" thing doesn't make any sense from a competitive balance point of view.I'm mostly waiting for someone in charge of these things to realise that and bar it, because its kinda broken.
>>41590914You get minions because you have an evil team, it doesn't have to make sense.Hmm, seems players are more in favour of dungeon practises before forming new teams, ok.
>>41590944It makes sense if you're one team of four defending a castle against several opposing parties.But if you're playing what's essentially one-flag CTF, I don't see how minions factor in. Just means we get extra people on our team while they don't?Somebody's going to cry foul.
>>41590914>Wait, we get minions on a princess rescue?It does make sense we have our minions, as evil party and all, it does not make sense that those can be fellow adventurers, but whatever, it makes things easier for us.
>>41590985>Just means we get extra people on our team while they don't?On the other hand they get advantages for their team too.And if we really would just have access to summoned/bound minions and undeads like other evil teams would have, it would be balanced.
>>41591027>On the other hand they get advantages for their team too.Such as?I mean, what's stopping us from taking the entire convent, declaring them minions, and then facing off against Raid Rush 100 vs. 4?I'm not trying to bitch for the sake of bitching here, this just seems so horrifically unbalanced and abusable.
>>41591099We can only take a certain number of minions. Read the links in the OP.
>>41591099>I mean, what's stopping us from taking the entire convent, declaring them minionsThe rules. All themed Teams have specific advanatges and restrictions. They have a theme, which gives them some advantages (we don't know which) and our evil themed party has certain advantages and restrictions that are described in the Adventurer club paste.>iii) Minions: Each team member can have one of the following:One Strong Minion (Large elemental, Vampire, moderately powerful demon or equivalent);Two Medium-strength Minions (Medium elemental, Ghost or Ghast, minor demon or equivalent);Five Weak Minions (Small elemental, zombie or skeleton or equivalent).
>>41591128Alright, let's take Sallazar. Full power, no holds barred.
>>41591144>Alright, let's take Sallazar. Full power, no holds barred.Sallazar is sadly not one of the things that are eligible as minion.
>>41591140Notably enough, we are mostly cheating around this restriction>The team member must demonstrate the ability to control these themselves, though items that enable this are permitted. Because none of our team can actually do that with their fellow team mates.
“Kittranes plan makes sense” you say “and she's the leader, we'll go with her plan” Kittrane grins widely then hides it, suddenly looking casual.“Thanks Professor” she says roughly “so uh, yeah. Stealth training for Evvy and Nevyn, magic for me and Phoebe.”“And everyone else?” asks Calluna “what are we training in?”“Uh, whatever you like” says Kittrane, looking baffled “does it matter?”“Well isn't Calluna going to be a minion again?” Cleya asks “Sir, we can be minions right?”“Yes” you draw out the word “almost any of you might possibly be an evil minion, except Janrael I think, maybe Safire and Anlanesa too.”“Who's the best minion” Calluna coos to her pet...fish “who's the best minion ever?”“I volunteer to be Nevyn and Evrumines minion” says Lucinda, waving her hand in the air.“You just want to make a pass at the princess” says Chame, rolling her eyes.“Yes, and?” Lucinda gives her a challenging look “you jealous?”Chame gives her a condescending look “I'm so glad I never took you up on your off-”“Getting back to the matter” says Janrael “Um, I propose we have a Good team too.”“Second” says Anlanesa.“Too early” says Cleya “I think everyone needs to practise together more.”“Cleya is right” says Phaysis “much as I'd like to, we all need more practise, Sir can the Daves let us practise after the match?”“I'm sure it can be arranged” you say “so I guess we're tabling the team idea?”“I guess” Janrael doesn't look too happy.“So uh yeah” says Kittrane “minions....”Chame, Phaysis, Lucinda and Calluna all raise their hands.“Well” says Nevyn “guess that decides that.”“On a stealth mission?” says Cleya “is that really a good idea?”Kittrane chews on a finger-claw, as if she hasn't thought about this.“Well um, whoever it is” she says “we'll be doing double-training this week, because we need to be ready.”The girls all groan, hands go down. Seems they all want to play, but not train hard.
What do you do about minions?>Let Kittrane pick>4 volunteers, 4 minions>No minions, stealth mission>Other (what?)And Training?>Let the girls decide how much to train>Double-training, like Kittrane said>Regular training>Other (what?)
>>41591333>Let Kittrane pick>Double-training, like Kittrane said
>>41591333>Let Kittrane pick from the volunteers.>Double-training, like Kittrane said
>>41591333>Let Kittrane pick>Let the girls decide how much to train
>>41591235Presumably, consent to being a minion counts.
>>41591333>4 volunteers, 4 minions>Double-training, like Kittrane said>Chame, Phaysis, Lucinda and Calluna all raise their hands.All my yes.
>>41591400>Presumably, consent to being a minion counts.It says they need to display the ability to control them, doesn't sound like consent should count.Since you still don't control them.
>>41591319>“Um, I propose we have a Good team too.”Aw, please Jan, don't be boring. There are so much more interesting themes we could have.
>>41591419Loyalty through friendship and fun is arguably a more effective method of control than arcane binding.It really depends on what you count as control, and that vagueness can be exploited - for now.
>>41591455I can't recall any.
>>41591507>Loyalty through friendship and fun is arguably a more effective method of control than arcane binding.Nope, because one relies on them wanting to obey, which isn't control, while the other doesn't, which is control.Loyalty=/=Control. They are seperate things.And considering the obvious intent behind these rules, normally summoned demons/undead/elemental, they obviously mean the "can make them obey against their will" sort of control.If Calluna flips her shit, then no amount of friendship speech is going to reign her in.
>>41591455Why? It's a great them for her, could draw players who don't like the evil theme, and gives the old cleric people to teach.
>>41591559>and gives the old cleric people to teachI expect her to teach people who want to learn priest, regardless of the theme of their team.>>41591559>It's a great them for her, could draw players who don't like the evil themeIts not like Good/Evil are the only possible themes.
Kitten picks + Double-trainingPlease roll 1d20+11 Fellowship to prepare for trouble, and go train double
Rolled 7 + 11 (1d20 + 11)>>41591591>>41591582It's the theme those girls want, and that's enough for me.
Rolled 4 + 11 (1d20 + 11)>>41591591
Rolled 18 + 11 (1d20 + 11)>>41591582But there are even less themes for who we do have atm. Plus Good and evil is always a thing.>>41591591
Rolled 11 + 11 (1d20 + 11)>>41591591
Rolled 3 + 11 (1d20 + 11)>>41591591
>>41591612And it's that fun dichotomy of fielding polar opposite themes.
>>41591619>But there are even less themes for who we do have atm.Not really. You can find dozens of potential themes for who we have, animal theme, transformation theme, elemental theme, etc.
>>41591612>It's the theme those girls wantIts a theme at this point two maybe three girls want.And Janrael seems more like a reflex reaction toa evil theme, considering how much headache she has from her compulsive desire to smite evil.
Girl Power theme
>>41591654But each team needs a Core 4 and can't have multiple people forming the core of different groups. >>41591681Still Phaysis, Analessa and Janrael, want one. Convince one more girl like Safire and you have a full team.
>>41591697Sadly Chame is already in a different team. Lucinde, Chame, Nataline, Janrael for girl power team.
>>41591710>But each team needs a Core 4 and can't have multiple people forming the core of different groups.Sure, and with the girls who aren't part of any core you can easily make themed teams.Elemental:AnalanesiaSafirePhoebePhaysisTransformation:AnlanesaPhoebeCallunaPhaysisetc.I see no reason to rush the themed team building anyhow. They don't need one to compete anyway.
>>41591753They want to form one and there is no reason to stop them, other than you not finding Good interesting enough. If they get a fourth member, I'm going to vote to allow it.Live with it.
>>41591753Themes giving bonuses are kinda a big deal in higher tier competitions and gives them better teamwork when you know who you're working with. If the girls can get a core 4 for a Good team I'd let em.
>>41591710>Still Phaysis, Analessa and Janrael, want oneEh... Phaysis would maybe like one and Janrael says she wants one. And Anlanesa more likely wants to lead a team to compete with Cleya.>>41591785Dunno why you are so butthurt about it.
>>41591785Seconding this anon. If they want it let them have it, just means they'll have to train extra hard to make it all stick.That said, I can totally see Janrael being 100% slavedriver team captain.
>>41591797>Dunno why you are so butthurt about it.You don't like a thing he likes. That makes you evil-incarnate, obviously.
>>41591554The intent behind rules matters far less than you'd expect.
>>41591872>The intent behind rules matters far less than you'd expect.It matters a whole lot to wether or not people are going to complain about us using our own team mates as minions.And the rules are pretty clear, you need to show the ability to control them, which the girls don't have.
>>41591797Because I'm tired of watching this argument go nowhere.
>>41591797>Phaysis would maybe like oneConsidering all the thought of being an inquisitor and heroine and all in her interlude?More than that.>Janrael says she wants oneSo we're going to just say no and that we automatically know better because it's boring?>And Anlanesa more likely wants to lead a team to compete with Cleya.except how she could have joined team evil but had major moral compunctions about it and actually fought against them all after? Besides Cleya is core Fell Storm.I think your mislike of a "boring" option is making you insist you know better and telling the girls their opinions don't count.Quick reminder Janrael joined for fun, and this is supposed to be fun for the girls as much as it is training them. If they want a good team let them.
>>41591911Considering you started or continue it, thats a really stupid reason.
>>41591921>So we're going to just say noWho ever said we would say no?
>>41591942This entire "good teams are BOOOOOOORING, do something else"
>>41591921>except how she could have joined team evilIf she would have joined Team Evil she couldn't have competed with her, and I'm fairly sure he thinks she wants to compete with Cleya 'because' Cleya joined Team Evil, which if you remember, made Anlanesa a bit upset.>Besides Cleya is core Fell Storm.Which is why she would compete with her ina good team...Do you even read the things you reply to?
>>41591960That thing no one said?I made a comment about finding that boring, and you got mega salty about it for some reason and keep trying to claim I would vote for Sallazar vetoing it, which isn't anything I ever even remotly implied.
>>41591960>This entire "good teams are BOOOOOOORING, do something else"I can't see anyone saying "do something else" anywhere? Only "they could do something else", after someone claimed there isn't anything else they could form.
>>41591979You were saying Analesa wanted to be a team captain in a team with Cleya.I pointed out she could have but chose not to, ergo it is not her only consideration.I also pointed out given the massive difference in core teams proposed it's not even a major factor. Since they'd rarely team together on the field with the proposed set up and core team differences.
>>41592031>You were saying Analesa wanted to be a team captain in a team with Cleya.No I didn't, read again.
“Kittrane is the leader” you say “and we're following her plan, so she gets to pick her team, and that includes minions.” Privately you wonder how the judges would react to having the other girls play minions, they might be allowed, or not.“Ok, uh, then Phaysis and Chame” says Kittrane “They'll both be with Evvy and Nevyn. Chame is good at sneaking and can pretend to be the Princess to throw off the other team, and Phaysis is the fastest we've got so she can be the way to get the princess out of the tower fastest.”“Wait so I'm getting kidnapped by the team of hunky barbarian-guys?” says Chame with a grin “Kittrane I love your plans.”“How am I going to-” Phaysis starts “Oh no, so not, not going to.”“The Princess can ride you” says Kittrane, glaring at Phaysis “it's the best way to-”“No!” snaps Phaysis “No way, no how, not happening.”There is some spirited discussion, finally...“If anyone says anything about me wearing a saddle they'll be tasting hoof for a week” Phaysis threatens the rest of the team.“Wouldn't dream of it” says Anlanesa.“Yeah we know that would stirrup trouble” says Lucinda.Phaysis gives her a dark look and her hair starts to smoulder.“So it's decided” you say, before they can start fighting “double training for all those involved.”“Ugh do we have to?” complains Chame.“Yes” says Kittrane “if there's no hard work they're no pay-off.”“That's what she sa-” Lucinda and Chame both murmur at the same time, then break off, refusing to look at one another.“But...double training?” asks Nevyn.“Yes” you say firmly.Safire raises her hand “um sir?” she says “if we're going to be practising after the main match, um, what are we doing?”Good question. You'll have enough time for the girls to do lots of short dungeon runs after the main match. You could focus their practise on a particular area or let them play around and have fun, seeing what works for them.
What will the other club members be doing this weekend after the match?>Just have fun, try out new stuff>Focus on team combinations, which work best together, as well as themes>Fighting, lots of fighting>Let them try some of the Daves weirder dungeon ideas (properly vetted of course)>Decide later>Other (what?)And with the meeting pretty much concluded, what are you doing this afternoon?>Helping the girls train >Making items (standard list or write-in)>Tutor girl (which?)>Recruit girl (which?)>Work on school wards>Speak to Headmaster about mind-reading girls>Speak to your new tutors (which?)>Recruit tutor (which?)>Other (what?)
>>41592085>Focus on team combinations, which work best together, as well as themes>Let them try some of the Daves weirder dungeon ideas (properly vetted of course)>Making items (standard list or write-in)The rest of the club needs to be equipped too.
>>41591931It was my first post in the argument and it closed my thoughts on it pretty succinctly. I wouldn't consider this post chain the same argument, since it's not really related to the prior argument but rather our shared complex of being incapable of not replying to replies directed at us.
>>41592085>Focus on team combinations, which work best together, as well as themes>Speak to Headmaster about mind-reading girls
>>41592085>Focus on team combinations, which work best together, as well as themes>Let them try some of the Daves weirder dungeon ideas (properly vetted of course)>Speak to Headmaster about mind-reading girls
>>41592085>Let them try some of the Daves weirder dungeon ideas (properly vetted of course)>Helping the girls train Didn't we want to do a weekly plan with interrupt scenes? To save the trouble of all the voting?
>>41592177>Didn't we want to do a weekly plan with interrupt scenes? To save the trouble of all the voting?You will, but that will be in next update, the next one is kinda important.
>>41592085>Focus on team combinations, which work best together, as well as themes>Making items (standard list or write-in)I don't particularly want any odd dungeon ideas for the girls on their first dungeon run, even thought it's going to be things like dungeons that don't link up in a way that makes space in a 3d map or dungeons replicating flat-out strange planes of existence rather than magical realm nonsense.
>>41592085>Focus on team combinations, which work best together, as well as themes>Helping the girls train
>>41592085>Recruit girl (Tisinia)I know I missed the vote.
Team Combo's it is, and heading to see the Headmaster
“I think it's best if you all try out new things” you say “different team combinations, tactics and so on to see what works for you, so that way, and” you add with a smile as Janrael perks up “it will be a good chance to try out some different teams, see what works well.”Janrael pumps her fist in the air “yes!” As the other girls all give her looks ranging from amusement to confusion to incredulity she adds “um, sure, why not, I guess, whatever.”The group of mind-readers at the school is a big concern to you. As the meeting breaks up you spend the afternoon classes teaching, and thinking about your own plan for the week ahead.What are you going to be doing with your time this week?Please pick and only 3 from the following list>Recruit girls>Tutor Girls >Recruit Trainers >Work on school wards>Make Club-requested items>Make other magic items >Tracking down mind-readers at the school>Chasing legal matters >Other (what?)NotesYou are already tutoring Janrael and Safire, the *Tutor* option involves picking more.Every option apart from wards will involve a 5 minute follow-up vote on specifics.Please label each of the three option 1, 2 or 3. 1 is highest priority, 3 is lowest.Failing to number your vote will result in the options you picked being included, but you having no input on the priority.Sorry for the short update, just getting this sorted in time for the actual next update.
>>41592438>Tutor Girls 1>Tracking down mind-readers at the school 2>Recruit girls 3TISINIAAAAAAAA
>>41592438>Tutor Girls 1>Make Club-requested items 2>Work on school wards 3
>>41592438>Tutor Girls (1)>Make Club-requested items (2) 2>Chasing legal matters (3)
>>41592438>1.Make Club-requested items>2.Tutor Girls >3.Chasing legal matters
>>41592438>Recruit girls 1 >Make Club-requested items 2 >Tutor Girls 3
>>41592438>Tutor Girls (Phaysis, Lucinda) 1>Make Club-requested items 2>Track down mind-readers at the school (ask for Lucinda's help) 3
>>41592438>Tutor Girls 1>Make Club-requested items 2>Tracking down mind-readers at the school 3
>>41592438>Tutor Girls 1>Make Club-requested items 2>Track down mind-readers at the school (ask for Lucinda's help) 3>>41592538Dunno why you would want to Tutor Phaysis and Lucinda and Wizards/Sorcerers though.
>>41592438>Tracking down mind-readers at the school 1>Recruit Girls 2>Make Club-requested items 3
>>41592571>>41592524>>41592492Guys, the club already has more members that haven't seen a dungeon than members that have. Chill down with the recruiting.
>>41592438>Tracking down mind-readers at the school>Tracking down mind-readers at the school>Tracking down mind-readers at the school
Closing and counting
Ok, tutoring and making items are clear firsts and seconds, last is a little less clear, but going with looking for mind-readers.As before Sallazar will pick appropriate items for the girls, unless players request specific stuff.Vote on who to tutor and items coming in a moment.
Tutoring some of the girls is your highest priority, although any could benefit from your help, you will need to limit yourself to only a few, to be able to help them effectively.Who will you be tutoring? (Safire and Janrael are automatic)>Anlanesa>Calluna>Chame>Cleya>Evrumine>Kittrane>Lucinda>Nevyn>Phaysis>Syphoebeus Please pick 3And for items?>Standard stuff to help in next weeks dungeon-type>Specific items (what?)Standard is appropriate to the mission and the plan, or what Sallazar thinks is appropriate.
>>41592854Why would you tutor Nevyn as wizard/sorcerer?
>>41592834>Cleya>Kittrane>Syphoebeus >Standard stuff to help in next weeks dungeon-type
>>41592878Because she and Kittrane asked to?
>>41592884>>41592834Forgot standard stuff. Can't really think of anything interesting right now. Maybe a magic boosting accessory for Kittrane and Syphobeus
>>41592894>Because she and Kittrane asked to?Syphoebus aka. Phoebe is the Titan girl that is going to focus on magic with Kittrane. Nevyn is the displacer girl.
>>41592923Oh, my bad.Yeah, her then.
>>41592834>>41592848forgot to add>Specific items (what?)Something that allows levitation/flying for Evrumine so she can carry Nevyn up
>>41592953Eh, Phoebe has Air Walk and she can probably lift Nevyn and Evrumine without much issue. Kittrane can teleport.
>>41593002>Eh, Phoebe has Air Walk and she can probably lift Nevyn and Evrumine without much issue. Kittrane can teleport.And the plan requires Phoebe and Kittrane to split up and Nevyn and Evrumine to move on their own to the princess.
>>41592953Is there that much of a need for vertical movement?Honestly can't remember.
>>41593047Snowy mountains are the setting, I'm thinking it will be valuable at least, necessary at most.
>>41593047>Is there that much of a need for vertical movement?Its a mountain.
>>41593067Isn't a lair usually inside the mountain though?And a dungeon, for that matter.If the Daves just slap some illusory giants and a trollop tied to a stick down in the middle of a mountain range, I'm going to be mad.
>>41593101>Isn't a lair usually inside the mountain though?You need to reach the lair first, and since its the lair of giants, levitation will still be useful.
This week you're going to focus your time and efforts on Cleya, Kittrane and Syphoebeus. You'll also be creating a useful array of items for them.After afternoon lessons and dinner you head back to your lodgings to lock your books away before going to talk to the Headmaster about these mind-reader girls. He can't be ignorant of them and although you are set on tracking them down it would be wise to see what he is doing first.With your books locked away you turn to go and visit the Headmaster, only to see that your crystal ball is blinking, ah, must be the Daves, maybe the location has changed?You bring up the message.Master SallazarI hope this message finds you well. A mutual acquaintance of ours, the scholars apprentice, will be in Becklingill by this weeks end. The search for the past consumes such folk. I would take it as a great favour if you would be so kind as to look out for our friend.-Sir HoltfirthNo, no those arrogant, smug- You've not seen Sir Holtfirth or Tellaric in years and by this message Tellaric is heading into danger again for that damn fools quest! And they have the nerve to ask you to be on hand to save his stupid ass? You have your girls to look after!You'll show them both...by being really indignant when you step in to help, as you know you will, dammit...Shaking your head at your own weakness you go to see the Headmaster.---Thank you for playing, next thread is in about 16 hours.For your actions today you have gained 2XP and the club has gained 5XP. Short thread I know.I hope you had fun today and I look forward to seeing you in next thread. Talking to the Headmaster will be OP of next thread.
>>41593148Thanks for running.
>>41593148Thanks for the thread.I see Phoebe didn't get any new XP towards sorcerer despite getting several new Innate spells, is that right?
>>41593219Thanks for spotting, fixed.End of thread topicWhen you've found the cabal of mind-readers and exposed them, what then?
>>41593306>When you've found the cabal of mind-readers and exposed them, what then?Recruit them as our spies on the rest of the students under threat of expulsion. Soon with our mind-reader informant thralls, no attempt at cheating will go unpunished and no slacking go undetected. We will whip this school into perfect discipline.
>>41593306Ethics classes, for all of them!
>>41593306I see no reason for anything but handing out appropriate punishment when they are caught.>>41593423Kitchen duty for everyone.
>>41593423>>41593306Succubus themed adventuring party fully recruited from caught mind-readers under leadership of Lucinde.Nothing could go wrong.
>>41593452Pretty sure a Paladin group would stomp the shit out of them.>>41593434Make it Latrine duty.
>>41593487>Pretty sure a Paladin group would stomp the shit out of them.Nah, we just need to teach them enough conjuration and stealth. The Paladins will never see them coming, Undetectable Aligment for everyone.And seriously, there aren't going to be that many paladin groups.
What should Mr Pogostus' theme song be?So far https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFzdIaBnckg is the best I've got.
>>41593514I don't care much for the song, but I'm convinced his voice sounds exactly like that.
Do players really want to Lucinda to be a Paladin?Anyway, off to bed now, will check archive tomorrow for questions etc.
>>41593514...That song is exactly what I thought it would be when I saw the title.
>>41593514Mr.Pogostus now needs to start into song at some random point.At best in the middle of a dungeon competition during a fight, and everyone just "what the actual fuck". After this contest there needs to be some balancing out in XP distribution for all the girls. Some have nearly none invested yet, while Nevyn already got nearly twice as much as the next girl. >>41593593OOC I could see it being both interesting and amusing, but it entirely depends on how you have planned her character. She did show a altruistic/"punish the wicked" streak with her mind-reading, so I could see it.IC I don't think Sallazar would consider it, at this point.
>>41593593OOC it kinda makes sense, with her attitude and would do good to give her a firm moral grounding in her tendencies. Besides just think of what her later life would be by being a bard/paladin hybrid.IC from what I've seen Sallazar does not have a strong positive view of gods and divine magic. I could be wrong. So he may not point that out to her.
>>41593593>Do players really want to Lucinda to be a Paladin?She'd be certainly a interesting sort of paladin. But 'want' is too strong a word.If she shows interest in it or thinks ever develop into that direction I imagine it could be fun.
>>41593634Except Calluna, of course. She'd just enjoy the show and applaud when it was done.They've gotten imbalanced, yeah. I couldn't resist getting Nevyn into kinda-bullshit territory and Fel Storm have gotten more focus due to being the ones in situations with potential risks, albeit still exceptionally low ones. I'll be trying to balance it out from this point and then hopefully keep it there.
>>41593916I wonder if Cleya understands Callunas quirks a bit better than others, being a part-abberation herself.Fel Storm getting all that attention made sense sofar, also because they fought more, just wanted to draw attention to it, especially because of Nevyn.Though why was Phaysis own XP not spend yet, are you saving it for Paladin/Priest?
>>41593593Yes. The comedic value there is just far too strong to pass up.
>>41593593Don't care, think the anons say it must happen are just meme-ing again. Give them a new shiny and they'll change focus.
>>41594073>>41594132>dat transparent samefaggingI laughed.Its enough to say it one time, you still get a vote anyway.Also> think the anons say it must happen are just meme-ing again. Give them a new shiny and they'll change focus.You realise she wouldn't be the first sucubutt paladin candidate for Pallys quests?
>>41593973Maybe, it would be nice for Calluna to have a friend that's another girl her age.What I wanted to do was get a single rank in one of the Nightmare powers and then throw the rest into Paladin's prereqs or something in Ranger, but something fairly distracting occupied most of my week so I haven't quite finished the powers. Mostly written still, just need to error check them, do some minor rewrites and maybe some balance tweaks.
>>41594175Excuse me asshole, I only voted once.>You realise she wouldn't be the first sucubutt paladin candidate for Pallys quests?Exactly this shit has become trite and common place. All succubutts MUST be paladins or etc..... You're not doing for character but to keep it cookie cutter and in the same old vein.
>>41594132>think the anons say it must happen are just meme-ing againOr it could have something to do with her established character traits which could lead her into this direction as several mentioned.But no, probably memes, its easier than actually reading the story I guess.
>>41594240>something happening once>all succubiWhat are you even talking about?>You're not doing for characterExcept the main reason ebing her having shown characteristics that would lend themselves to a paladin. Why would she be somehow barred from being a paladin if she is so inclined?
>>41594246Actually it's the fact>>41594055and it comes up super often.You're pushing for "muh paladin succubus" not because it's yet in character but if you keep asking for it Pally will make it so.>>41594271see above
>>41594240>Exactly this shit has become trite and common place.> to keep it cookie cutter and in the same old veinI have no idea in what world you life in which this is "cookie cutter".
>>41594284>being this bitter about someone disagreeing with you in a quest thread.
>>41594284>one dude says a thing>that means all people wanting the same thing want it for the same reason despite explicitly mentioning different reasons>You're pushing for "muh paladin succubus" No one is pushing for anything, it was even said by most that it wouldn't make sense IC yet.Don't be so salty about it, holy shit.
>>41594306>>41594308I was salty some asshole accused me of samefagging. Then calling them out on their shit.>>41594288Every succubus must be a super special donut steal character, like a goddess, or paladin or etc.
>>41594284>You're pushing for "muh paladin succubus" not because it's yet in character butDude, do you read? Pally asked US if we would want that. And we answered him. People answering the QM is not "pushing" for anything.I have no idea why the mentioning of succubus paladins triggers you so much.
>>41594329>Every succubus must be a super special donut steal characterExcept for the entire nation of them we got in PoJ, where the overwhelming majority are perfectly regular people. For you know, succubi anyway.
>>41594329>Every CHARACTER, NO MATTER HOW MINOR OR INSIGNIFICANT must be a super special donut steal character, like a goddess, or paladin or etc.Went ahead and fixed that for you. Welcome to /tg/
>>41594237>Maybe, it would be nice for Calluna to have a friend that's another girl her age.More so than a friend, but someone who 'gets' her at least a little.So Phaysis is slotted down for Paladin instead of priest? Who do we want as priest then? Though we don't necessarily 'nee' one due to Janrael being able to learn priest spells on her own, but having at least one full priest would be nice.
>>41594346>Nation of Succubi, being totally average for the most part. Not drawing insane agro and demon hunters from all over.yeah alright>>41594333It's the fact on a macro or micro level a succubus "must" have some sort of special traits that makes them super unique and important.It's like furries, or how there are 2500000 types of elves.
>>41594388>So Phaysis is slotted down for Paladin instead of priest? Who do we want as priest then? Though we don't necessarily 'nee' one due to Janrael being able to learn priest spells on her own, but having at least one full priest would be nice.Safire as geomancer priestess when?
>>41594400>It's the fact on a macro or micro level a human, elf, dwarf, eldritch horror, and your mother "must" have some sort of special traits that makes them super unique and important.Fixed for you again. The tunnel vision you possess is actually quite impressive.
>>41594400>Not drawing insane agro and demon hunters>All settings are the sameYeah sure, if I were a demon hunter, assuming sucha thing exists, I totally would want to pick a fight with a entire nation of them.>>41594400>It's the fact on a macro or micro level a named main character "must" have some sort of special traits that makes them super unique and important.I don't see the problem? Why do you think being a paladin would make her more special than any other paladin anyway?
>>41594404>Safire as geomancer priestess when?As soon as she gets a ability to convert Arcane into Divine energy.
>>41594438Drizz't syndrome.I'm supposed to be a seducer with loos-ish morals, but instead I'm a super good and pure paladin who always does what's right!>>41594386>>41594431Every character eventually suffers from it, but Succubi off the bat MUST be special.
>>415942401. It's not even a vote.2. Nobody is going to make her become a paladin. The most extreme opinions expressed in the regards of wanting it were "it might be interesting" or "for the comedy" (which probably shouldn't be taken too seriously), unless I missed something.3. Their arguments are at least *trying* to be based on the character, most of the serious ones anyway, while yours seems to boil down to a distaste for anything that strays from your belief of what she should be.4. Succubi are far closer to humans due to their nature and far more likely to be redeemed successfully in this Oversetting, albeit still fairly rare until the gods start getting involved (e.g. Sireyi having ~1.5 million redeemed Succubi).5. She isn't even a succubus.
>>41594457Might be worth looking into, assuming Pally wants to make this sort of thing feasible.Instead of calling on her god/goddess to heal people, she could call on her earthbound dirt-god to cover her team in nigh-impregnable gems, bolstering defense and causing physical attacks to often fail.>>41594474>Every character eventually suffers from it, but Succubi off the bat MUST be special.If every character suffers from it then how the fuck are succubi special? You're arguing against your own point with that statement.
>>41594474>I'm supposed to be a seducer with loos-ish morals>All succubi are the same and are not allowed to posses individualitySooo, what you're saying is that original characters that aren't 100% cookie cutters from the mold are bad?I mean, she actually even IS a seducer with loose morals. I have no idea where you get the idea from she all of a sudden would stop being that.Your silly preconceptions of what succubi and apaldins must always be like seems like the bigger problem to me.
>>41594175Nah, not a samefag. Why do you think people with the same opinion are samefags?
>>41594490>Sireyi having ~1.5 million redeemed SuccubiTo be fair the majority of those aren't really doing much in the way of being redeemed and a significant portion are still actually evil and just have good sense.
>>41594525That photoshop took you a while huh?
>>41594474>Every character eventually suffers from it, but Succubi off the bat MUST be special.Every character has to breathe air in order to survive, but Succubi off the bat MUST breathe air to survive.Your point, summed up for clarity.
>>41594561I wish I could photoshop, even that would be an improvement.I was actually playing league. I usually alt+tab when waiting to respawn, which lets me post short comments/votes/etc.
>>41594474>Drizz't syndrome.You are completly mistaken if you think the problem with Drizz't syndrome is playing good aligned drow.Good aligned drow are fine. I wouldn't play one, but they are fine.The problem is a lot of people playing Good aligned drow ranger dual-wiedling scimitars.Meaning, the same damn character.If Lucinde would be trying to become a paladin of the god of rulership in order to stay with her part-angelic BFF, then we would have Drizz't syndrome.
>>41594502I assume for now Safire is intended to train as monk, to make use of her improved unarmed?Has Pally said if the natural improved unarmed damage and the one from the monk class ability stack in some fashion?
>>41594502>If every character suffers from it then how the fuck are succubi special?eventually, and that usually comes with development, she done nothing paldin-y and people want he to be one.>>415944901. Except it's about what people want so it kinda is.2. several flat yes's and pally takes those at face.3.She's done nothing paladin like, she doesn't cheat because she knows the teachers may catch on, she uses it on the other readers so she can get a leg up and be smug. not paladin behavior.4. Most of those are still fucking evil and just being smart.5. And? She act like one.>>41594563Nice Strawmanning. It's like saying a level 1 fighter from a small village with iron dagger and a leather singlet is the same as Level 1 Warlord born from royalty, with access to the nation's treasury and a full retinue of bodyguards.>>41594611Driiz't means mary sue super overpowered character from an evil(or ambiguous and probably evil) who's good and ture and pure and apparently easily surpasses their racial average and even their best with little no know effort.Lucy will already get a ton of exp because Pally loves power bloat, so the surpassed is there and the whole paladin thing seals the deal.
>>41594652>3.She's done nothing paladin like, she doesn't cheat because she knows the teachers may catch on, she uses it on the other readers so she can get a leg up and be smug. not paladin behavior.She punishes people misusing their power.>she uses it on the other readers so she can get a leg up and be smugThat is purely your assumption, we don't know why she does it.>4. Most of those are still fucking evil and just being smart.And you assume Lucinde is evil based on what?>5. And? She act like one.A lot of girls behave like Lucinde without being even part succubus.>Driiz't means mary sue super overpowered characterAnd being a paladin would automatically make her such?>who's good and ture and pureYou realise she can easily be a non-good paladin because being a paladin has nothing to do with aligment in this setting?
>>41594652>Driiz't means mary sue super overpowered character from an evil(or ambiguous and probably evil) who's good and ture and pure and apparently easily surpasses their racial average and even their best with little no know effort.Why aren't you complaining about Cleya then?Or even worse, Anlanesa?
>>41594652>Driiz't means mary sue super overpowered character from an evil(or ambiguous and probably evil) who's good and ture and pure and apparently easily surpasses their racial average and even their best with little no know effort.You mean like basically all the girls? Because their heritage not defining who they are and can be is literally part of the point of the entire quest?
>>41594722>Why aren't you complaining about Cleya then?>Or even worse, Anlanesa?I'm starting to have the feeling he is upset because he fears his slutty succubus might stop being slutty.Not sure what makes him think that considering this is a Pally quest, but then again he doesn't seem very smart overall.
>>41594645IIRC, die levels functions as such.1d3 -> 1d4 -> 1d6 -> 1d8 -> 1d10 -> 2d6 -> 2d8 -> 2d10 -> 3d6 -> Etc, etc.Any kind of enhancement to Unarmed damage will increase natural or pre-enhanced unarmed attacks by the same level of die as it would with a base unarmed attack.So yes, it would stack.Of course, I might be misremembering.
>>41594878The problem is that the monk levels don't explicitly raise it, they just change it into the new one.>your unarmed attacks deal 1d4 points of damageetc.
>>41594906I'm fairly certain I asked about that at some point and Pally said it functions as a raised die level for the purposes of naturally stronger unarmed attacks/natural weapons.
>>41594943Interesting, so it would be, 2d10 for Safire at Rank 5, if I see it right. Thats quite the punch.
>>41594993I think it would be 3d6 since her base is 1d8.1d8 (0), 1d10 (1), 2d6 (2), 2d8 (3), 2d10 (4), 3d6 (5).
>>41595227Yeah, you're right, I just added two, but I forgot th increase from base. Though its kinda weird how max dmg actually decreases from 20 to 18.
>>41595316It is, but there's not really any way to make a die level formula that doesn't break down like that eventually. Or I'm being dumb and there is and I got the die levels wrong.Eh, whatever, I'll be corrected if I did. The most important piece is that the monk skill works on die levels instead of static values, making it useful for Safire, Nevyn and any other girl with stronger than normal unarmed attacks.
>>41593514https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6ar2VHW1i2wGonna post it again next thread, when people are here.
>>41595227>>41595316Progression is 2d10 -> 4d6 not 3d6, otherwise correctLucinda the (maybe?) PaladinAs expected this idea is somewhat controversial. I'm personally not strongly in favor or against the idea.Mechanically I expected Lucinda to be a Bard, but I'm willing to let players direct the girls growth if they so choose.So will Lucinda become a paladin? We'll have to see where she wants to go and where the quest takes her.Maybe she never really feels a strong connection to the gods, and maybe she feels the call, time will tell.I do like the idea of Safire: Geopriestess though.Writing OP but no quest until much later as I will need to go to work.
>>41598804>So will Lucinda become a paladin? We'll have to see where she wants to go and where the quest takes her.I saw it as a think where she needs some moral guidance and that is one of the things that checks the boxes. And a bard/paladin hybrid eventually too. Granted way too xp intensive for this.But yea, she does not really fit most of the personality for it.Maybe Bard (secret seeker) type of character instead?
>>41599020>Maybe Bard (secret seeker) type of character instead?I'm ok with this
>>41598804>As expected this idea is somewhat controversial.Insofar one anon getting incredibly bitter and salty about it counts as "controversy".But its not a thing that needs to happen, or if it does not for a while.
right, OP written, see you in...8 1/2 hours.
>>41599968Have a good day til then pally.