Gilliam looks over the cargo manifest again, for the third time. The workers grumble around him as they stand about the crates waiting to finish unpacking.“This isn’t right.” He says, again for the third time. He looks to the worker nearest to him who simply shrugs, tossing out his arms as if washing his hands of the problem.“What do you want us to do about it? That’s all that came in on the plane, and everything on the manifest is accounted for.” He says.“Yes, but there’s some items missing. I’d say about three subjects.” Gilliam’s tone is sharp, and the worker slaps the crate next to him shut.“Not my damn problem. They weren’t on the plane, and their not on the manifest. Try checking the passenger list.” Gilliam tosses the data pad to a desk as the worker hauls the crate away.“How do you misplace three live test subjects? How?” He yells. The worker jerks the trolley and a light jingling comes from the crate that makes Gilliam’s blood run cold.“I was about to ask you the same damn thing. If it’s not on the manifest, It’s not my damn problem.” Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!>Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone>FAQ ask.fm/QuestDrone>Discussion page http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest_talk:Hive_Queen_Quest
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>>41486352>Current resource reservesNutrients: 4,957,114Metals: 5,527,079Credits: ₡2226Credits in Lyle’s account: ₡1,175,000>Hive population and upkeep cost Hive maintenance – 52,325Queen – 5Fake Queen (4) – 220Small Egg layer – 12Worker (150,000) – 300,000Aquatic Worker (5,140) – 20,560Vacuum Worker (5,200) – 31,200Radiator Worker (5,100) – 20,400Warrior (75,045) – 375,225Gilled Warrior (100) – 700Aquatic Warrior (50) – 400Thinker (8,000) – 24,000Quantum Thinker (3,000) – 15,000Speaker – (3) – 12Digger (200) – 800*Refinery (40) – 280*Sniffer (2) – 8Small Sniffer (5,000) – 5,000Aquatic Sniffer (200) – 200Fly (1,165) – 4,660Wasp (30,000) – 150,000Haz-mat Workers (20) – 80Parasite (110) – 440Bio-tank (1000) – 25000Stealth Bio-tank (30) – 900Excavator (1,000) – 19,000Colossus (5,000) – 75,000Hovertank (2,000) – 50,000Harvester (5,000) – 95,000Support Fluttercraft (500) – 71,000Ghost Beetle (1,000) – 27,000Heavy Warrior (10,000) – 190,000Chinook (1,000) – 18,000Air defense drone (500) – 37,000Bomber (1,000) – 41,000Strafer drone (2,000) – 30,000Heavy Interceptor (1,000) – 28,000Light Interceptor (2,000) – 28,000Advanced disruptor (50) – 3750Advanced Relay (70) – 7000
>>41486394>Hive fleetSpace Pod (5000) – 150000Heavy Fleet Fighter (560) – 37520Heavy Gunship (132) – 3960Shuttle (10) – 250Mining Corvette (336) – 92400Patrol Corvette (150) – 76050Scout Corvette (8) – 1800Lancer Corvette (2) – 450Missile Corvette (500) – 516000Fleet Corvette (244) – 54900Heavy Fleet Corvette (176) – 206272Light Fleet Frigate (1200) – 534000Heavy Fleet Frigate (132) – 188364Stealth Frigate (4) – 1952Vanguard Frigate (850) – 340000Light Fleet Cruiser (300) – 199500Missile Cruiser (50) – 118250Heavy Cruiser (110) – 133650Heavy Fleet Cruiser (66) – 45090Carrier Battlecruiser (5) – 99360Heavy Fleet Battlecruiser (16) – 130192Heavy Fleet Battleship (4) – 207100>Formed fleets and ordersSmall Heavy Defense Fleet [Patrolling Leeland space]5 Heavy Battle Fleet [Awaiting orders]5 Missile Ambush Fleet [Awaiting orders]20 Light Fleets [Awaiting orders]5 Heavy battle fleet [Building]5 Light fleet [Building]
Hello, ship designs soon
>>41486423Clone upkeep/special projects and expenses25 Human captives of the USV Hope – 750[Gemini] 15 Human Hybrids [In production] (900)3 Taidaren Hybrids [In production] (210)4 Human flash clone upkeep – 1203 Human hybrid clone upkeep – 90Specializations:>Tech>Engineer>Brawler1 Human Chimera egglayer – 80[Hive space]100 Human Hybrids – 3,000Lyle Rogers – 57Jackob Eisner – 56Dillon Reager – 30Clone/project upkeep – 5,173NTotal upkeepNutrient costs: 5,245,770>IncomeMetals: 2,838,000Nutrients: 9,801,250Net: 4,555,480
AFTER ALL THIS TIME>>41486423>Heavy Fleet Battlecruiser (16)>Heavy Fleet Battleship (4)THE HIVE WILL GROW LARGER>>41486352>government black ops stealing from other government black ops
>>41486459Hive Territory[G-426]Asteroid mining base: 50,000M per day.*Leeland (capital)Defensive structures>Surface to Orbit Missile System (750N)>Anti-orbital batteries: 35/35 (8750N) Military structures>Hangar facilities: Room for 4840 Aero/fighter Drones and 2420 Shuttles (3025N)>Psionic Shroud (1,000N)>Prison OutpostIndustrial structures>Docking Pylon: (1969) (98,450N)[Empty docks: 1713/2000]Economic Structures>Smart Mines active: 100,000M per day>Algae Farm: +4,800,000per day, 48,000 Workers (1 worker per 100N)>Film harvester dock: +5,000,000N per day, 10,000 Harvesters active (500N per Harvester)[M-662]RalighaDefensive structures>Surface to Orbit Missile System (750N)>Anti-orbital batteries: 35/35 (8750N)Economic structures>Bloodroot collectors: A series of pipes and veins running from the roots of several of the nearest Bloodroot trees provide a passive and low maintenance source of nutrient income, +250N per day (5)>Greenwall pit: 500N>Temple alter: A place for the Ralighan locals to worship and bring offerings to your hive, built in the likeness of your local fake queen, +500N per day[M-323]>Orbital docking pylon: Space for docking and construction of 4 sub capitals or 1 capital ship, (50N) [Empty docks: 0/4]>Mining corvette salvage operations +2,688,000M per day (+8000M per corvette)[Farcast]Derelict Sensor arrayGlassed Hive world>Hive bunker complexDeep space waystation>100 docking pylons (10,000N)[Empty docks 0/400]
>>41486504New Construction OptionsDefensive structures>Anti-orbital battery – A bunker armed with a massive Particle beam capable of attacking ships in orbit from the ground. It includes the power and sensor systems required to operate it. 250N 1500M>Surface to Orbit Missile System – This massive bunker complex houses a wide range of warheads and a nigh limitless number of missiles within its protective walls, allowing you to launch missiles against approaching invaders from the safety of your hive. The facility uses the ship missile stats and comes equipped with a single Cruise missile silo that can target any detected object within the system, five Stinger missile silos capable of targeting any craft within high orbit, and ten Swarm missile silos specialized in targeting high altitude aircraft and low orbiting targets. The facility itself is a massive complex spread out over several miles, and includes guidance and launch equipment, as well as the means to construct and maintain a stock of warheads and missiles. (1500N 2500M)Military Structures>Hangar Expansion – Construct fortified hangar facilities of +40 aero/fighter drone space and +20 shuttle space. 50N 100M>Psionic Shroud – A single building built around the shattered remains of a Void Shard, the shroud amplifies the unnatural mental silence of the broken crystal within to mask an entire planet from potential detection, preventing outside forces from easily detecting the thoughts of a hive. (2,000N 5,000M)Industrial Structures>Docking Pylon – A large spire or station that contains space for docking and construction of 4 ships, or a single capital ship if placed in orbit. 100N 300M>Weather Spire – A networked collection of spires spread across a planet capable of studying and altering a planet’s climate and atmosphere. Construction includes the building of all spires needed to function. (8,000N 20,000M)
>>41486426On that note:Hive Flagship: Length 6200Spinal Mounts: RailgunTurrets: Cyclotron Particle BeamFixed: Linear Particle BeamAuxiliary: Auto CannonArmor: Heavy and HeavyShieldsRapid Damage controlMicrofactory (Built-in)Fusion Core X52 Modules: Max 124Swarm hanger X 30Docking bay X 10Swarm Launcher X 3Stinger Launcher X 4Cruse Launcher X 5Bulkheads X 73G-field sensor x1Cost:68600 N332140 MAndHive Destroyer(Hive ship):Length 6200Spinal mounts: RailgunTurrets: Linear particle beamFixed: BlasterAuxiliary: AutocannonArmour: Two HeavyPower: Fusion coreUtility:Defensive shieldsRapid Damage ControlMicrofactory(Built-in)Modules(124 slots):G-field sensors x1Swarm hangar x40Drop pod launcher x10 (boarding)Swarm launcher x25Stinger launcher x25Cruise launcher x15Bulkhead x8Cost:99700N 318840MCan change one heavy for ballistic, as it has no negatives aside from having less overall protection than heavy.-15500 N -62000M from removing heavy+31000N + 15500M from adding ballisticHere's hoping I did not fuck up the paste
>>41486459Interesting. I wonder why Jackob and Lyle consume so many more nutrients than Dillion does. Maybe it's the augs?Speaking of Jackob, before we wake him up I was wondering if we could have a little chat with him telepathically through the bio-tank neural interface. We could offer him a symbiote then if he's interested, which he was earlier, and that would do a lot to ensure he stays in one piece mentally and physically when we let him go.
>>41486523Economic Structures>Orbital solar array – A station placed in orbit of the local star equipped with a membrane of photosynthetic cells several kilometers in diameter capable of producing a steady stream of nutrient income. Provides 1000N per day total (5,000N 5,000M>Harvester Dock – A large pier built along the shore overlooking the spore-producing ocean film that serves as an unloading area for Harvester drones, and contains pipelines to pump collected raw nutrients to the hive’s awaiting processing facilities, includes a single Harvester which is covered by the cost and upkeep of the dock. Provides 500N per day total (38N 50M)>Orbital electroponic station – An orbital instillation built near a large source of hydrogen used to fuel a large fusion core, which in turn provides electrical power to a contained algae farm facility. Must be built in orbit of a gas giant. Provides +500N per day and doubles as a gas mining facility, refueling the tritium stores of any ships in the system. (1000M)>Algae Farm – A carved out space used to utilize Leeland’s natural electrical field to cultivate food. +100N per day, 1 worker to maintain.>Hydroponic platform – A floating greenhouse platform used to grow farmland through hydroponics that can only be built on or near water with open access to plentiful sunlight. Each greenhouse platform supports roughly one hectare and requires a single worker to tend the crop and maintain the platform. Multiple platforms can be connected together to create fields of floating farmland. +200N per day, 1 worker to maintain.
>>41486423yessssthis pleases me
>>41486527Dude.This is what the 1d4chan page is for.Not only are you posting something unnecessarily long, you're also going to start a shitstorm from the getgo when we haven't had any Hive Queen Quest in a month.
>>41486560>Filter towers – A large underwater pylon built to extract raw nutrients from the microbial life of the surrounding ecosystem. Can only be used on planets with bountiful biospheres and deep oceans capable of supporting large amounts of microbes. Provides between 100 and 500 N per day, depending on the local environment. (500M)>Capillary Tower – This massive organic space elevator offers a number of logistical and economic advantages, despite its drastic up front cost and fragile nature. Shuttles or space craft are no longer needed to move resources from the surface to orbital structures, freeing shuttles for more important tasks. The counterweight station serves as a center for construction, with 4 docking pylons included on the structure to repair and build ships, while gaining a bonus to capital ship construction time due to the speedy nature with which resources arrive from the surface. The Capillary Tower can also spread hive creep and extract resources at an increased rate, spreading roots deep into the crust to bring up resources directly into orbit, allowing you to consume a planet much more quickly than normal. A Hive ship can construct a Capillary Tower if given the time and resources to do so, deploying one after 3 full days, after which it becomes the counterweight station, and must remain stationary until it detaches and destroys the tower to move. A Hive ship deployed in this way does not have access to its spinal weapons, but can use other features as normal. A planet can hold a max of 4 Capillary Towers along its equator. For each one, planetary mining or over harvest activities are doubled. (50,000N 500,000M)
>>41486476The wonders a decentralized democratic government.>>41486527Why don't we hold off on discussing this until later in the thread.
>>41486527>On that note:Save it for later, the crunch sperg is not time sensitive and should happen at the end.>>41486552No, no revealing the existence of our favorite little children to people who have the option of refusing.
>>41486617Finished Research>Psionic readingBy further tuning your senses to ambient tachyonic fields and focusing small bursts of psionics, you can actually gather meaningful data from a creatures mind from a distance. Any creature you are aware of within 50 meters of a medium or advanced relay can be targeted, gathering surface thoughts and emotions from the creature. There is a chance the target will sense the reading, manifesting as a feeling of paranoia and the illusion of distant sounds and voices. The more aware the target is of your attempt, the greater the chance for the target to sense the reading. If the target is fully aware of your capability and intent, it may attempt to resist the reading.>KataUsing the data gathered from your thinkers observations of enemy actions, your clones and non-hive agents implanted with a parasite or connected to your network can now respond instinctively to a wide range of combat situations with the same reflexes and devastating efficiency of your warriors, granting a boost to general performance in combat.New Research UnlockedAdvanced Psionic ReadingSlowWith your new abilities growing, you continue to hone and develop more advanced methods of using your psionic network. Your thinkers believe that with more practice they should be able to delve deeper into the minds of non-hive life, digging past surface thoughts and emotions and into more detailed pieces of information without resorting to invasive neural interfaces.Psionic ImprintingMediumThe next logical step from psionic reading, your thinkers believe that if you can detect the thoughts of others, you may be able to alter them as well. Further study is needed to determine the extent of this potential ability.
>>41486593>>41486627>>41486632Said I'd do it next thread. I do it next thread. No crying now.
>>41486352Woot Hive queen quest, and finally I can present my conspiracy, may I present operation Sherlock. We currently have killings suspecting 3rd party involvement, and a detective looking for some convicts were protecting. Also killinger knows of a unknown 3rd party attacking the confederation. We can use this to give the scavengers on a silver platter. We just need a few things3x scav soldier clones (with gear)1x scav leader (with gear)1x scav station Assorted wanted clones (lee and co)Lyle1x nuclear WMD1x scavenger jump driveWe need to fit the scavenger drive to lyles ship and construct this base.Our compromised union guy will find this base in the expanse. He will board and find resistance from turrets and the scavenger guards. At the end of this will be Lyle and the refugees. They will attempt to escape as Lyle makes his stand. As soon as things go against lyles way he will set the station to blow and escape into his ship. They will use the scav drive to escape towards scavenger space, which they'll win the flight from because of the superior tech.The only risked asset is Lyle. The intended outcome will raise our agents rep with killinger and paint the scavengers as the mysterious third party.
>>41486523>New Construction OptionsI always read that in CABAL's voice.
What happened to that one research thing that was basically telekinesis? Did we complete that?
>>41486652Current Research>Plasma Assault CannonFastYour thinkers believe it would be rather easy to scale up the plasma cannon, using the same principles, but on a similar scale as the Rotary Stinger or Thorn Cannon, turning a powerful anti-armor weapon into a direct fire siege weapon that would likely make for a powerful bunker buster and anti-structure weapon.>Micro rocketFastA miniaturized, unguided missile that utilizes a small amount of propellant to maintain its trajectory and boost its velocity before embedding itself within the target and detonating for maximum damage. The rocket itself is a form of smart ordinance, and can be set to detonate at a predetermined time, such as after penetrating a wall or door, or within a certain range of a target, or within the target. The rocket deals more damage at longer range, but infers a penalty to accuracy and rate of fire.>Auto-harvest podsMediumA number of pods that can be placed within some ships, allowing them to spread hive spores over an enemy planet when destroyed. These pods could, theoretically, also be launched from drop pods for a similar effect.>High-altitude spore dispersalMediumBy spraying modified hive spores from a capillary tower at high altitude, the tower gains the ability to spread hive creep several magnitudes faster than any other method you have, contaminating the surface of an entire hemisphere in a mere day, although the creep itself grows at normal speed. The spores are visible as a greenish fog that permeates the atmosphere, especially around the tower itself, and is toxic to non-hive life, forcing any enemies of the hive to make use of rebreathers or air filters. The spores can be made to carry other chemicals or biological agents.
>>41486632Who would he reveal that information to at this point? Hell, we wouldn't even need to explicitly tell him what it is. Just an additional implant that keeps him in constant telepathic contact with the hive (in a connection not unlike he is currently experiencing) and can heal gaping wounds in real time.
>>41486696>You still have 2 normal sized snifferPoor little guys.
>>41486692I'm curious about that too. I want out telekinetic superbugs. Biotics here we come
Really need to look into making a hive equivalent of shielding.when we fight obsidian, we will lose in numbers, so we must have higher quality and efficiency.
>>41486696>Atmospheric static generatorMediumBy utilizing the natural friction of a sufficiently dense atmosphere against the surface of a capillary tower, the tower can be made to generate energy to feed itself and reduce its upkeep cost.>Rip DriveMediumA powerful, and accurate drive system, it does not move the equipped ship, but allows the ship to rip open a hole in spacetime, creating something akin to an artificial wormhole that bridges the ship's current location with a location of its choosing within its range. This allows not only the ship to move through the rupture, but also allows it to open ruptures for other craft, allowing for the deployment of sub-light craft over vast interstellar distances.>Deep Core MiningSlowTaking planetary mining to the logical extreme, your thinkers believe that your hive infrastructure, if spread across the surface of a world and given enough time, would be able to consume the ferrous metal core of a planet itself.>Ship grappleMediumA simple idea at heart; throw a hook at the target and reel it in. When you take into account the relative speeds and raw kinetic forces involved in such an action, however, it quickly stops being so simple. Complex and highly durable cables and pulleys must be developed, as well as specialized bulkheads to prevent ripping the ship in two. The result, however, should be interesting, if a bit insane.>RamMediumThe concept of ramming in ship to ship combat is simple and straight forward. Doing so without obliterating your own ship, however, is a far more complex skill to master that requires numerous alterations to ship design philosophy and a willful lack of common sense. The Scavengers appear to be insane enough to have thought such a strategy useful in space combat, and are stubborn enough to perfect it. The study and extensive testing of the design of the ram should allow you to develop something similar for your own ships.
>>41486668Adding onto this, this constructed station should be somewhere remote in a gas giant system, it should be a small gas harvesting station/ "monitoring post", it will be scavenger in everything except actual ownership and function. They will be able to salvage very little and as such be unable to look deep enough to actually find anything compromising, but should be able to loot just enough to confirm that scavengers are behind this all. If we pit killinger into a shadow war with those enemies we do everyone a solid. We can even start using scavengers to run our errands for us, so if they get caught they reinforce killingers conspiracy theories.
>>41486765>Artificial gravity platingMediumBy utilizing insignificant amounts of antimatter to create unfocused gravitational fields, and then directing them through the gravity plating into a single direction, the internal structure of a ship can be granted a small amount of artificial gravity. White the direction of the gravity can be changed at will, or turned off, it lacks the resources and energy to project a field capable of directly causing injury>Gravity thrustersSlowSimilar in function to your Skid drive, the Gravity thrusters essentially surf along pre-existing gravity fields, increasing their performance when in close proximity to major sources of gravitational pull, be it a large celestial body, a star, a planet, an exceptionally large structure or group of structures, or the core of a gravity drive. While in deep space it becomes less effective, the law of universal gravitation means it never becomes totally useless, and when in close proximity to a powerful gravity source it should outperform most other thruster designs with ease.>Shield miniaturizationMediumWith your new understanding, previously unknown aspects of standard shield technology can be seen in a new light, indicating a small overlap between it and gravitational manipulation technology. By using newly developed technology, your thinkers suspect that they may be able to create a more compact, but less powerful shield system.>Photonic microstructuresSlowThe useful applications of manipulating massive photonic molecules are many, and your preliminary studies indicate that you may be able to develop more practical uses beyond the blaster, especially in the field of energy shielding.
>>41486668Clever. Very clever. I can get definitely get behind a plan like this. The only problem with it is that we don't have any access at all to scav FTL drive, but we could fix that while the clones are maturing. So why don't we get our captured scavs to infiltrate their fleet for us? We could start a new genestealer cult there!
>>41486696>Auto-harvest podsOur creep automatically grows mines I know, but does can it grow puffball mines that spray the superversion of the Leeland cordyceps mushroom?It could do some incredible damage against the OB if we can get stealthed bombers to launch simultaneous attacks, shelling as many of her worlds we can find at the same instant so we can inflict the most damage before she is able to develop an immunity?
>>41486729Those are the OG sniffers that served when Lyle first came to us. They won't go until he does.
>>41486782>Nausea fieldSlowA rather interesting side effect first noticed with your Blink drive, but now weaponized to great effect as a defensive measure. You should be able to enhance your medium and advanced relays to emit a wave of sickening nausea in a radius around it, causing effected subjects to feel increasing levels of both physical and mental uneasiness, causing feelings of dread and queasiness.>Solid State TeleportationSlowWhile standard quantum systems allow for instantaneous transportation of data, this technology would allow for essentially the instantaneous transport of matter. The matter in question would be disassembled into individual particles and transported in much the same way as bits of data through a quantum relay, and then assembled on the other side. Due to the nature of the process, only simple objects such as raw resources could survive teleportation. This should allow for the transportation of resources across hive space without the need to delegate ships to serve as trade vessels.>Quantum TuningMediumWhile current quantum computing technology requires the relays be built to accommodate one another, this technology should allow you to quickly attune pre-existing devices for one another when in proximity. Your thinkers suspect more opportunities to open up after further research is done. You suspect Theseus would greatly appreciate such a technology, if he does not already poses it.
>>41486696>>Auto-harvest podssoon>High-altitude spore dispersalSOON
>>41486627>>41486476You know he's just feeling the subconscious knowledge of the hive that he helped three flies smuggle themselves onto Gemini Beta, right?>>41486692You made it up. It wasn't real last time you mentioned it, it isn't real now.>>41486660No one asked you to. And there's no need to do it at the start instead of after bump limit. Use the wiki if you're impatient for crunch.>>41486668>>41486775>>41486800That's not clever and is also not time for it now. It's also retarded to associate "the one who did the Leenapping" and "the one who blew up the Mirage" as the same party. This doesn't fit the scavs' MO whatsoever. >>41333579
>>41486692Are you talking about psionic reading? Because that's the closest thing to what you're talking about, and we just knocked that research off.>>41486742The hive reverse engineered shielding ages ago bro, we traded with Theseus for it.>>41486740
So how will we stop this meeting, letting killinger win is not acceptable, but the fucker has something planned.It seems he was expecting an attack.
>>41486813 Available research options>Psionic Cannon prototypeVery slow/Very dangerousDetailed accounts of several experiments show the slow progress of Project Godsplitter. The cannon itself is highly volatile, and even the smallest miscalculation often results in the destruction of the ship, as well as any nearby craft. It can only be equipped to a Hive ship's spinal mount, and requires a functional Void Shard as ammunition. At least a dozen testing sizes were atomized in testing the weapon, and in the end it appears The Gardener never quite perfected it.>Add Advanced Psionic Reading>Add Psionic Imprinting>Add neither>Add both>Add all (including Psionic Cannon)>Other
>>41486847you're a cunt m8
>>41486847You seem a tad salty there anon.
>>41486668>>41486775I support this wholeheartedly. If it comes up it has my vote.
>>41486800We already have the skid drive, which is the tech I'm referring to. The big problem is that the station has to actually look like a scavenger station. The good news is with the nuclear bomb that lyle will ""have"" with him (supported by the intel on him), they will only get scrap metal and electronics, which will be mostly fried anyway. We should leave just enough scavenger shit in the open for them to grab while running. Also unlike the former clone plans. >>41486847Killinger doesn't know the scavengers MO. If we run the scavenger "black ops" division we can easily kick there ass. >>41486865Thats my plan, if we can give killinger an enemy to strike against, we also can give a justification to start using scavenger death squads to solve our bidding.
>>41486874>>Add all (including Psionic Cannon)
>>41486874>>Add all (including Psionic Cannon)One of these days we'll get around to starting the endgame trigger.
Anyway, in short killinger is shadowrunning like mad right now, we'll give him something thats just difficult enough to not be an obvious trap and just easy enough that he'll feel he can win this shit.
>>41486874Both. I don't think we're ready for a Psionic cannon yet
>>41486874>>Add neitherThey're both good but it takes so long to research stuff these days 'cause of how much we're researching.
>>41486782>Shield miniaturizationI wonder if we could couple this with a ship adaption:Basically protrude nodules across a ships hull (since it does not need to be aerodynamic) and in each of these armor nodules we have a miniaturized shielding array. By using overlapping and segmented shielding generators we can trade a big strong shield that goes down all at once for localized shielding failure, while overcoming the reduced strength by clustering these nodules together at the right density. When a part of the shielding is about to fail, we can simply turn the ship and allow those shields to regen while others bear the brunt. Verses low tech or sized weapons fire this should make it all but impervious. A possible adaption for the larger cruiser and above class ships.
>>41486917>>41486874Fuck I meant excluding the psi cannonchanging >>41486917 to>Add both
>>41486897The skid drive is the ceph's drive of preference, that uses four crystals to operate. What the scavs use is called a skitter drive or something like that, that functions in a completely different way.
>>41486943Nah man we're not bottlenecked by the amount of research. It's just that they genuinely take that long, I mean we haven't had a thread in ages so it feels longer than it really is.
>>41486961Fuck I'm mixing shit up. I could've sworn we had that tech.
>>41486897>Thats my plan, if we can give killinger an enemy to strike against, we also can give a justification to start using scavenger death squads to solve our bidding.thats what i mean, i think the attack is what he wants, he could use it as a reason to unifies the government, hell he could also have some select politicians killed and make it seem like it was the alein menace.
>>41486954This is a good idea.
>>41487002We're not using them first, he will find them with his agent that we own. So he can't reveal that he found this wonderful alien race we can unify against without actually having hard proof, which he can't quite get from this instance. It will pit him against an enemy we couldn't give a fuck about anyway and allow the whatever there called to benefit while we stay in the shadows.
>>41486800You have one Scav parasited, everyone else is only bloodsmears on the floor.Also it's infinitely more believable to blame the Mirage blowing up on secret Commonwealth stealth capabilities and Leenapping on his dissident 4chan terrorist group buddies that Killinger wanted to infiltrate with Fake Lee. We even have a motive: Lee had an offline backup of the Darwin photo leaks.
>>41486874>Add bothYour thinkers leap to the task, which with their pitiful legs results in them jiggling in their seats as they take to the new research subjects.Meanwhile, your pod is finishing its augmentation of Jackob.>Speak with him in the tank (write in)>Finish the procedure>Other
>>41487106>>Finish the procedureNo revealing mind-to-mind fuckery.
>>41487106>Finish the procedure
>>41487106>Finish the procedureI don't have anything clever to say.
>>41487106What aug did Dillon get?
>>41487060anon we can't stay in the shadows any longer out fleet scare a group of humans shitless on how large it is, and our home planet is full of us now.
>>41487106>don't finish the procedure>melt jackob into a pile of goo
>>41487155We're not staying in the shadows to them. I meant we're staying in this shadow war with killinger while he thinks another groups responsible. In the meantime we also need a plan for how the commonwealth will actually make 1st contact with us. Lets face it, they're going to be pissing there pants until they do. Especially since the last attempt got them nothing but incoherent screeching in response.
>>41487106>>Speak with him in the tank (write in)"Before we improved you, you expressed interest in the improvement Lyle recieved that allowed him to rapidly recover from wounds. This augment also allows us to remain in contact with him anywhere through a connection not unlike the one we are currently employing. Are you still interested in such an augmentation?"How else is he going to learn Kata or survive a shitty dice roll?
>>41487197Not a big fan of the common wealth.
>>41487219Thanks hitlergas the squid
>>41487259Well we can't just ruthlessly exterminate ALL the humans.
>>41487170thirded lets do this.
>>41487106Changing vote from >>41487145 to >>41487226
>>41487072We totally did capture a bunch of lackeys with non lethal ammo before the couchfuckers detonated the charges they planted in the ship.
>>41487283Union is a better group in my opinion, they are more welcoming of aleins.
>>41487139>Implying he would be able to repeat knowledge of mind to mind fuckery with a parasite in his brain>Implying we couldn't just remove the memories of that knowledge if we were that worried about it.
>>41486352thanks god HQQ is running tonight, something to bring my mind of the possible horrible truth
>>41487283Says who?Copy their brains. Recycle the bodies.
>>41487226Doubt it'll go through, but I'll support it
>>41487197Fuck first contactWe should just send a fleet in whenever it looks like the scavs our union are winning a fight over a commonwealth planet and leave it at that let all 3 fight each other and only interfere when it looks like there may be a winner
>>41487226I'll second this
>>41487106The pod opens and pours Jackob to the floor. He coughs up phlegm and medical fluid from his lungs as he gasps for air in the dark of the hive tunnel. He slowly gets up as his new eyes adjust to the darkness, and he examines his arms. He looks to his side, where his clothes have been set out by a worker, and his arm extends out nearly twice its natural length to reach them. He nods to himself approvingly, and a speaker approaches him."Did you brighten the lights recently?" He asks."No. Eyes are better now!" It says proudly. "Hive eyes much better!" Jackob looks around as he quickly dresses himself."That they are.""This way to others. Follow!" Your speaker chirps and it leads him back down the darkened passageways of the hive to the others.Cont.
>>41487395Nah man, only fight scavs. When the union is concerned, just warp in a large amount of ships that continuously broadcast the first message that the commonwealth sent us with some screeching mixed in, but don't actually fight.
>>41487496That would be quite lulzy. I'd support it, except that it might give them the information to deduce that all the recent supernovae are related to us.
>>41487496Nah that's weakIf we are going to use the commonwealth as a buffer zone then that's means we cant allow anyone to topple them scav, union whatever
>>41487440Goddammit. This is what I get up for getting up just as a vote comes up and taking too much time writing up a write in.>>41487226
>>41487544Okay then. Jump in a handful of pods to encircle their planets and just have them faintly whisper it into their communications outlets. They'll faintly hear it over every single transmission.
>>41487572who siad about using the commonwealth as a buffer zone?Wasn't the union the buffer zone( since its in the space between us and the black queen)?
>>41487544And said information would freak them out. Because we've been warping about always a few light-days away from wherever we're going, so those supernovae are gonna seem like near-constant bombardments. Hell, even their lower estimates of how much we dwarf their numbers would be astronomically huge.
>>41487597dw anon you win in our hearts 4evertim
>>41487619unity our buffer zone with the betrayerthe commonwealth is the buffer zone before the scavs and they are barely holding their own if the union hits the commonwealth then the scavs will break throughand if the union starts hitting the unity harder then we are all alone against the betrayer and wont last long
>>41487714Which is why we should unite with the union.Right now they aren't fighting anyone, and would be willing to help.
Original SpeakerOlfactory: Basic 0Acoustic: Basic 0Psionic: Basic 0Mandibles: Vocalizer 2Blade: Combat 1Arms: Dex 1Legs: Endurance 1Utility: Acid Glands 1Carapace: Mimetic skin 2Size: MediumCost: 8NUpkeep: 4NImproved SpeakerOlfactory: Basic 0NAcoustic: Basic 0NRadio : Advanced 6N 3MPsionic: Moderate 50NMandibles: Vocalizer 2NBlade: Combat 1NArms: Dex 1NLegs: Bipedal 4N 2MUtility: Acid Glands 1NCarapace: Mimetic skin 2N Peacock 0NSize: MediumCost: 67N 5MUpkeep: 33NWhat do you guys think about this update to the speaker? I'll go though the shit I added.>Radio - People we have an interest in speaking with or vice versa could possibly be in communication with others, the ability to pick up such signals is a worthy adaptation for our speakers.>Moderate Psionic - With our improved psionics we can read the intent of intelligent aliens using moderate or above.>Bipedal legs - The drone builder described them as being ornate and elegent, made for form over function. These feel like a natural fit for our speakers.>Peacock Carapace - Fluffy speaker best speaker. Also it's free.While it's quite a bit more expensive, the extra expense doesn't really matter that much given the small amount of speakers we use and our massive income. At the end of the day most of that expense comes from the moderate psionic relay, which allows us a limited mind reading ability on whoever we're speaking to. Even if my other suggestions end up being unpopular I think putting moderate relays in our speakers is a no-brainer.
>>41487757The Union is the worst choice. They aren't as desperate as the Commonwealth and they're even more prone to backstabbing due to their nature as a republic.
>>41487757We are allied with the unity remember? And we been launching covert raids on union targetsThey are not our friends alrightI would remember keep our alliance with the unity then rely on the union >>41487797put that on the discussion page
>>41487827Also I'm a fan of the commonwealth as a fan of both space station 13 and starcraft.
>>41487835put that in your ass
>>41487797i think we should research a way to let our speakers have the voice of Morgan Freeman, imagine that diplomacy bonus
>>41487598That's more like it.
>>41487623A fair point, you've convinced me. I want to have fun.
>>41487797I think that this speaker should be on the 14chan page, not here.
>>41487797Why would you give them blades at all? What is the point of that?
>>41487923Anon, we just combine this >>41487623 with >>41487598 and then we can have all the fun we would ever want, silently laughing at the Commonwealth's/union's panic over the "voices in space".I'd still go for the "announce ourselves as one part of the triumvirate" plan that came up a few threads back, I think. It was when we jumped in and cleared those scavs that were fighting the union.
>>41486352Oh my god it's back. And tonight is the one night I can't stay up because I have to get up early for work tomorrow, and won\t be back for two days. Fuck.
>>41488004Do this, but also jump a massive fleet in when any scab are present and fucking destroy them.
>>41487440The others are gathered around the table eating nutrient paste, and the door flexes open. Jackob steps in, his face contorted into a crude facsimile of Lyle."Holy shit, what in the hell!" Dillon shouts. The others look from the table as Lyle gets up to turn towards the door."Check it out, I'm Lyle!" Jackob says as he fine tunes his face with an unnatural popping sound. He waves his arms over his head and they wave like noodles. "I'm a giant asshole that gets off to having the shit beat out of me, quick, someone punch me in the face!"Lyle promptly catches his jaw with a right hook. Jackob falls to the ground, laughing as he feels his jaw. It is bent and misshapen, and slowly bending back into shape as he shakes his face back to normal."I think you chipped a tooth." He says with a grin."I think I chipped a knuckle." Lyle replies as he helps Jackob back to his feet. "Also, that looked nothing like me.""I was being generous."Dillon looks over the scene as Jackob's face contorts back to its resting position."What in the fuck, man?""Neat, ain't it? You can't deny it's goddamn useful. Did you pick anything out for yourself yet, or are you still being a cry baby about it?" Dillon crosses his arms and glares back at the two."Well..." he says, "I did, yes, but we really should get going soon, we can't just sit here forever.""Well that's perfect." Jackob says as he twists his nose. "Lyle's got a tank in the ship, you can just recover in that to save time." Dillon grumbles and looks back to the tablet."Yea, yea I picked out two that seemed the most useful. Nothing fancy or, uh-""Fun, nothing fun you mean." Lyle says. Jackob laughs."Sure, whatever you want to call it."[Requested augments]Electrostatic muscle grafts – (8N 15M)Endoskeletal plating - (5N 20M)>Approve>Recommend>Other
>>41488004Why tell them about a triumvirate? that's giving them too much infoYou always play your cards close to your chest in negotiations >>41488074>Approve
>>41486352>Hive queen quest is back.i am so happy right now i had an orgasm.
>>41488074>recommendSecond Heart, Dillon. You need it. Trust us.And Sting Fingers are a nice and subtle touch.
>>41488074He really should get that second heart.
>>41488074>approveAnd recommend a second heart
>>41488074>>RecommendSecond heart. All humans should have one.
>>41488116The triumvirate plan was telling them that this seemingly omnipresent force of beings they couldn't detect, which could jump in at any time for any reason, was only a third of some hidden empire in the depths of space.So... fear and panic for everyone?
>>41488074>>RecommendDon't be a square, give in to peer pressure.
>>41488216Humans were meant to have second hearts! That's why their only heart is offset toward one side.>Recommended: Second Heart
>>41488225Yes. Fear and panic for humans translates into shits and giggles for us.
>>41488225Eh Just jumping and smashing the scavs while acting totally indifferent to the commonwealth fleet had a greater effect i think I hate to say it but the triumvirate talk seems pretty lame and reminds me of bad trek episodes
>>41488283ph33r and the evil penguin of dOOOOm xDDDshitposting aside it's a fun idea
>>41488074Changing >>41488140 to >>41488216
IT'S BACK FINALLY YES.I'm said I missed out on any votes.>>41488074>Approve, reccommend second heart.
>>41488074"You're gonna wanna go for that second heart." Lyle says as he jabs his chest with his thumb. "Took one in the thumper and went on to beat the piss out of the guy who did it.""Why do humans have only one? It is bad design!" Your speaker chirps as it stamps a foot."That seems a bit-""No, not even improve." Your speaker says again. "One heart is broken. Two is standard.""Well, actually most species only have-""Standard in things built well, like hive!" Your speaker says as it nearly picks Dillon up, showing a surprising level of strength as it leads him out the door, almost carrying him in the process."Well I'm just not sure-""Hive is sure. You like it better. Humans need two hearts, one is too few. Bad design."[Requested Augments]Second Heart (4N)Electrostatic muscle grafts – (8N 15M)Endoskeletal plating - (5N 20M)>Approve>Other
>>41488074>Approve>Install second heart, whether he wants it or not. And a parasite, in case we need to patch up both hearts.
>>41488355>>41488328>>41488274>>41488260>>41488241>>41488232>>41488216>>41488201>>41488194>>41488166When we come out to the humans, we should offer free second heart augmentations to all. It's just simple decency.
>>41488435>Approve>Suggest emergency-repair organ and hive communicator (parasite)
>>41488473Agreed. It's the neighborly thing to do.
In another land, in current time...>20 metal consumed>25 metal gained>2 slots on Mainframe used>1000 Space Dicks now cover the Mainframes surface equipped with Advanced Mining Lasers
>>41488493It should stay a happy surprise.
>>41488435>Offer parasite to Dillon and Jackob>Offer parasite to Dillon>Parasite Dillon>Do not>Other
>>41488582>Offer parasite to Dillon and JackobBe VERY clear on what it actually does and allows. These are some of the best good will we have going for the hive and I don't want us to fuck it up.
>>41488582>Parasite Dillon and Jackob
>>41488582>parasite to Dillon and Jackob
>>41488582>>Offer parasite to Dillon and JackobMake it VERY clear on what it is, make it sound great. And that if they say no, we're cool with it, we're just wondering.
>>41488582>offer parasite to dillon and jackob
>>41488582>>Parasite DillonOr if this doesn't win, do not mention it.
>>41488582>>Offer parasite to Dillon and Jackob
This is a breakpoint in Hive history, right here. I don't want us to be too rash...
>>41488582>Do notHave manners
>>41488582>Offer parasite to Dillon and JackobTell them clearly what they do and what it means. Damn, I nearly forgot this is back
>>41488582>Offer parasite to Jackob
>>41488582We can offer them without much issue really.
>>41488435I love our drones.
>>41488726Pointless human construct compared to Hive Security, which requires keeping strict tabs on all field assets and information kept on a strict need-to-know basis.Especially field assets that are a little too Union-loyal in attitude, even if the Union has betrayed him.>>41488582>>Parasite Dillon
>>41488582>Offer parasite to Dillon and Jackob
>>41488726How is it rude to at least give them the option of getting the compact augmentation equivalent of biotank that allows them to survive nearly any injury, and functions as an FTLComm cell phone
>>41488582Big vote right out of the gate it seems. Looks like it's>Offer parasite to Dillon and Jackob>Have your speaker attempt to "sell" the offer>Be frank and straightforward with the offer>Other (write in)
>>41488870>Be frank and straightforward with the offer
>>41488870>>Be frank and straightforward with the offer
>>41488870>>Be frank and straightforward with the offerYou might even want to make sound this is THE Queen talking, not the Speaker and his usual quips.
>>41488870>>Have your speaker attempt to "sell" the offer
>>41488870>>Have your speaker attempt to "sell" the offerif we have to do this you can do it right.Mention only its healing benefits.
>>41488870>Be frank and straightforward.>>41488899Yes.
>>41488870>>Be frank and straightforward with the offerBut do not actually say precisely what the device is.
>honesty is always rewarded in video games, absolutely nothing can go wrong here
>>41488899I agree.ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL
>>41488962we're already locked in to telling them about it so the least bad option is for us not to appear to be tricking them into anything
>>41488962But Anon, lying requires a skill check, and lying always results in better gains!Also>Be frank and straightforward with the offer
>>41488870>Have your speaker attempt to "sell" the offer
>>41488962When the sovereign of an interstellar nation offers you something, personally, and you're surrounded by their army...certain things are implied.
>>41488870>Be frank and straightforwardWritting.Obviously, you can offer any desired write-ins.
>>41488870>>41488967Seconding this >>41488899 Also
>>41489027'Certain things.'Hmm, yes.
>>41488899I can go for it.
>>41489041"yo nigga i got deez bugs man"
>>41489041If you are ever in trouble, the hive's agents will rescue you.We have many.
>>41489041Nigga jus put this shit in yo stomach, it make you reeeeeeal good. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeal good.Anyways, I'm heading off for the night, gotta get some sleep before I ship off tomorrow. Don't know if I'll be able to participate in another instance of this quest, but I love the shit out of it. You're doing a great job QD, never stop.
>>41489132>in another instanceHA FINALLY CANCER GO HOMEGO HOME
>>41489132Best of luck out there in the real world. I hear it can get pretty dicey...
>>41489041Feeds you combat and targeting data on the fly, and if you like hacking it will crack codes for you.
>>41489183Sounds more like he's off to join the military.
>>41489191Ha. I'm pretty much the physical embodiment of Lee. Goodbye everyone.
>>41489041Also, it will make them biologically immortal won't it? Selling point.
>>41489274Nah, we have the means for that, but parasites themselves don't do it.
>>41489263I had thoughts of many bait posts in response to that but deep down I think he's a fun dude
>>41489305Pretty sure he said they can excrete the serum.
>>41489274That is a pretty huge selling point. Like, that's probably the biggest selling point you could ever offer any human ever. Let's do it.
>>41489350Really? I was pretty sure he said they do.Well damn we're at an impasse here
>>41489041"It's dangerous to go alone! Take this."Seriously though no one is safe unless they're Mother's children.And if they refuse they're not leaving.
>>41489305But they totally do.
>>41489350Oh. Can they? Hm.
>>41489387Our children die by the hundreds
>>41489380The parasites are just tiny chemical factories.
>>41489350>>41489380Oh wait lol. I thought you were saying they don't. Sorry about that.
Someone shop the queens head on ole Bernie
SymbioteMandible: Biological interface 20NClaw: Hypodermic 2NArm: Dexterity 1NLegs: Sprint 1NQuantum brain 4NOxygen Recycler 8NCarapace: Adaptive camouflage 8, Mimetic skin 2Carapace: Bio-electrical 8N 15MSize: SmallTotal Cost: 13N 3MI'll just leave this here then.
>>41489415Actually most of them don't die.
>>41489041Seconding this >>41488899
>>41489489Speaking of, we need to get to work on a Hive cult.
>>41489489Are you trying to cheat me here. The costs ain't right
>>41489405Duh.http://ask.fm/QuestDrone/answer/120573053733Their whole point is to manufacture drugs on-the-fly. You saw them inject some liquid confidence hormones into Michael. Of course they can.>>41489415Still better than humans!
>>41489387If we were going to give them an ultimatum we should have done so BEFORE turning one of them into the terminator.
>>41489532Well lookie there. I'm a dumbface.
>>41489456Ere ya go.>>41489509We totally should. Space Florida already has cults dedicated to Theseus, and he ain't even trying.
>>41489544He's just Mr. Fantastic, he's nothing the Heavy Warrior standing guard in the hallway can't handle.And it's not an ultimatum if they don't know it's an ultimatum.
>>41489525Really? What'd I get wrong, I just double checked and the numbers seem right.
>>41489489>>41489695Whats this supposed to be for? Our general parasite implantation or implanting targets "secretly"?
>>41489631I thought those cults were foreshadowing the crystals taking over humanity
>>41489717For hive members.
>>41489695total cost of 13 nutrients when bio interface alone is 20
>>41489041Your speaker grows still as it turns in the threshold of the door as you direct its words carefully."The Hive can also offer another option. Not quite improvement, but a service." You say."What kind of service?" Dillon asks with obvious hesitation."The Hive can connect to you. Improve healing, improve communication, improve immune system, fix aging-""wait, what was that last one?" Jackob asks."-and the Hive will always be with you." You finish."That's... one hell of a catch." Dillon says. Lee adjusts his collar quickly."Um, when you say that, you mean, like, you give us a phone that looks like a liver, or like... in the creepy ex-girlfriend way?""Wait," Jackob says, "Lyle, is that the 'special' thing you have? It doesn't happen to be like that time the Unity put that micro-thermobaric bomb in your skull and had you running around doing their errands, is it?" Lyle curses under his breath."It's slightly similar, I guess, and I thought we agreed not to talk about that?""Sorry, but it is relevant." Jackob says. "So what is it, exactly, an implant?""Tiny drone that attaches to the spine. Connects you to the rest of the hive's thoughts." Your spectral figure jabs at him in silence. "It can be, uh, useful, some of the time. I guess." He admits."What do you mean, exactly?" Lee says. "I can kinda hear them already, but it sounds like a bunch of nonsense, what do you hear?" Lyle shakes his head."Nothin at the moment." He pauses, "well, not noise. It's more like a feeling. They feel, I dunno, happy I guess. There's no sound or anything, but it's as if the hive's in one of those holiday specials where everyone's singing about working on building toys and shit.""Sounds annoying." Dillon says."Not really. It's not distracting, just there. Plus you can hear the Queen a lot. Not like the little speaker shits, it's... I dunno, hard to explain."Cont.>>41489132Good night, and be safe.
>>41489717Implanting agents we want to keep alive. It's identical to our stock parasites except with additional oxygen recyclers and bio-electric carapces, which allow the host to hold his breath for long periods of time and can serve as defibrillator if need be.
>>41489768Do you not know what small drones do?
>>41489768And the small size reduces the total cost by a quarter anon.
>>41489789>but it's as if the hive's in one of those holiday specials where everyone's singing about working on building toys and shit."We are Santa Clause
>>41489821by three quarters.to one quarter.
>>41489789Don't forget to shill the biological immortality. Also maybe the healing factor.
>>41489789You guys are too nice. /tg/ was not meant to rule an empire.
>>41489870You're too late, the majority already voted "frank." This is not a hard sell.
>>41489890Good thing we don't have to worry about loyalty
>>41489789Now form a contract with me and become one of Mother's undying children!TIme to adopt.
>>41489839HO HO HO and a merry hivemas to all, and parasites for every good boy and girl!
>>41489904Regardless, it puts our one actual way of fucking them on the table, they are fully aware of that we are capable of this and that we will not do it to them without consent. So they can at least not have to be worried about being anally raped by us into servitude. Also that Lyle opted out of the consent plan by attacking the hive. So long as neither of them do that they're home free!
>>41489964Everyone look under your chairs!
>>41489839What's the clause?
>>41490018"By the way, you get a parasite."
I can't wait to see how our Taidaren parasites are doing.
>>41489789Quick, demonstrate Lyle's new super reflexes we just unlocked with Kata that interfacing with his spine allows by having a drone jump at him playfully.
>>41490092TL/N: attempt to tear his throat off
>>41490066And you get a parasite, you get a parasite, you get a parasite, you get a parasite, everybody gets a parasite, everybody gets a parasite, everybody gets a parasite!
Every other quest is just a rip off of this quest. thank you hive queen, for being the original.
>>41489789"Well I'm glad you brought this shit up before I got in the fucking tank. "Dillon says. He looks to Jackob expectantly, but Jackob seems to be mulling things over."Hey, I mean, they had a chance to shove one in me, and Lee even, and they didn't.""So what, they could be making you say that right goddamn now.""Then why did they mention it at all?" Jackob says. "All I'm saying is that instead of assuming sinister intentions, try to think of things from their perspective.""I can't fucking believe your shit, Eisner. You're just used to the idea of some space-thing watching you shit. Somehow I doubt Lyle asked to be given goddamn strings!""Now I say this as a man who had a bomb in his brain and still went back for more contracts, but I did try to kidnap a pile of drones, and may have killed quite a few of them while I was at it. They ate the mercs I hired so I honestly can't complain.""Oh don't you fucking talk, Lyle." Dillon snaps."Uh, if it means anything, I can't feel one in anyone but Lyle." Lee says."You were in a tank too, you could have one for all I know.""Goddamn it Dillon stop being such a jackass." Jackob says. "They're offering the thing, that means you get a choice. Just tell them no thank you and be done with it. If they never said anything then you wouldn't even have a chance to throw a shit fit, and if they wanted one in you they'd just jam it on in.""So why are they even asking, then? Who'd say yes to that?" Dillon says. Jackob glances over to Lyle for a moment and then back."Well, maybe I would." Lyle looks at Jackob."What?""It's got a lot of pros, and the fact that their asking, honestly, means a lot in my book. I think they're putting forth a lot of effort to accommodate our morality. To them it probably looks like you're throwing a fit over someone offering you a slice of goddamn cake." He looks at your speaker angrily. "Well I'll fucking take a slice.">>41490366I just ripped off A.I. Quest.
>>41490366shhhhhhhh no shitstorm bait man. I love hive quest more then most other quest on the board but your words are...far reaching and uncalled for. Opinion at best id say.>>41489789we really should have lyle tell us that story about the unity bomb one of these days.
>>41490398Fuck yeah, Jackob.
>>41490398As expected.I doubt Dillon would be convinced by showing that we turned Lyle into super ninja.
>>41490398I am really starting to like Jackob more and more.
>>41490398"Also, we could have implanted you while you slept."
>>41490398Holy shit, Jakob actually understands the hive species. In that being part of the ""family"" is considered a pretty great honor actually, I mean it gives you free reign of the entire empire and means you'll only die a violent end at some point in the very distant future. As opposed to of something lame like old age or ebola.
>>41490512>As opposed to of something lame like old age or ebola.I'd take that deal pronto.
>>41490512Hell, with them being worked on and having a parasite in them we could actually resurrect them from a violent end. We pretty much have EVE cloning, and all its benefits, after all.
>>41490558and youd only get better with every death, more wise each time " well X fucked me up real bad last time mom, ill avoid that next time unless you tell me to dive at it, I mean hell worse that happens is you give me a new shiny implant right?"
>>41490558Well holy shit when you put it that way it really is immortality.
>>41490602I wonder what happens to the "soul" though when they get revived a whole bunch.
>>41490558Hot shit your right.
>>41490558Except so far only one person in EVE has been mindfucked by the cloning system into oblivion. Not to forget that in EVE all those immortal geniuses are complete psycopaths that would give Lyle a run for his money. >Thunderdome at the sun! >Welcome to the bonus room!>Every Jihad Squad Ever.>Suiciding Dreadnaughts.Lets not forget that for each capsuleer captain theres potentially dozens to thousands of crew under there command.
>>41490644Nothing as souls aren't real.*tips fedora*>>41490673Well that's a good thing it's 'like' EVE and not EVE.
>>41490602It's discontinuous immortality, which isn't really immortality at all.
>>41490706It's close enough. The clone can't tell the difference
>>41490689>>41490695no evidence that it does NOT exsist, and unless QD states otherwise im going to question it when resurrection through cloning is going on. Might make for an interesting topic for the thinkers or queen in training liz to mull over while in between research topics.
>>41490745pls let's not get metaphysical here friend
>>41490730Sure, they might not know, but we know, and it's not really continuous immortality. They can still die. It's more like infinite resurrection than immortality. Yes they are different, come on.
>>41490706Its not total immortality but its certainly biological immortality.
>>41490706>>41490779So do you just not sleep then?
>>41490772fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee But I want to hear QD's stance on the "soul" and cloning when the quest is going to end for the night.
>>41490872As a fan of Quantum immortality I'd like to imagine it transfers over instantaneously upon death from one body to the other.
>>41490745No it mightn't. The Queen is from a self-biologically-engineered species and one of the first things she researched is how intelligent beings tick so as to mess around in their minds.There is absolutely no reason for her to take seriously the entirely undetectable human myths like "galactic harmonics" and "souls" that that self-help book mentioned.
>>41490779I don't think I ever said that they aren't different.You are right, they are different. I suppose I should've been more verbose. What's important here is that once they die once the persona, their identity and their being does not cease to exist with death. They can still pick up from where they left off with their most recent memories intact due to hive network.But, let's agree to not go into deep philosophical debates here? What matters is that they can continue to be useful and act independently even if they die once.
>>41490917see your no fun, you should add something like this guy >>41490899instead of just being obstinate and closed minded.
>>41490918My idea is to actually let Jackob be. He is actually more useful operating independently on his own as he seems to hear a LOT of classified and confidential information through his job normally. Also since hes highly wanted by a corrupt government anyway his natural actions will be in our favor anyway. We have no reason to manipulate his thoughts as hes already quite an awesome catch as is. However, we can occasionally ring him up and check in on him, or passively listen in.
>>41490996Actually I don't think we manipulated anyones thoughts much. Only one that I can think of is ceph. Lyle was just a weird trip down memory lane, but he doesn't seem indoctrinated in the least.
>>41490398There is a long and uncomfortable silence as everyone snapped confused, angry, and nervous glances to one another for several minutes. Jackob stands with his arms crossed, looping over each other like woven cables."The Hive also could have implanted you in your sleep. It does not take long." Your speaker says. Jackob points a hand to your drone as if emphasizing the point."Refuse if you want, but don't shit on the courtesy." Dillon makes several sounds, as if attempting to start a new argument, but he cuts himself off and pinches the bridge of his nose."Hey, you've seen it first hand, you know how all-encompassing modern intelligence work is.""This is way different." Dillon says, looking up. "That's security on the net, cameras in the streets, this is a bug in your spine reading your mind.""It really isn't all that different if you think about it. I've seen the shit you can pull when you really need to follow someone, and lord have mercy if they have cerebrals it's as close as you can fucking get, but here, it's one thing you can talk with that asked nicely instead of a committee you've never met." Dillon hooks his thumbs in the loop of his pants and grinds his teeth in silence."Okay, I'll admit the offer is genuine, but I'm still not interested." Dillon says finally. Jackob nods."So how about those other augs, then?" He asks. Dillon taps his foot against the floor rapidly."Fine, fuck it, I'm good as dead without 'em any way." He says and walks out the door in a huff. The speaker quickly walks out to lead the way in the darkened corridor. Jackob looks over to Lyle and nods slowly."I'm sure he'll come around on the augs at least. This stuff is damn good."A speaker walks up to Jackob."You wanted to join the Hive, yes?" It says, holding out the squirming parasite. Jackob jumps back slightly."Jesus, you shouldn't have shown me the damn thing. Sweet lord, just put me under and don't mention where you put it. Not interested in knowing."
>>41491035what about michael and his doctor friend?
>>41491035We mindbroke the agent
>>41491035We don't manipulate him anymore, but he got a thorough mental scrubbing. Either way, I mostly figure that >>41490996 is the intent anyway- we're basically just placing a marker on him.
>>41491058>>41491073Oooh right those two. Well fuck em, they weren't allies.
Ah man this exchange is hilarious
>>41490979There are as likely to be souls in organic beings as there are machine-spirits in refrigerators, they're all fundamentally machines that we understand how they work perfectly. There aren't any gaps here to fill in with magic.
>>41491052>"You wanted to join the Hive, yes?" It says, holding out the squirming parasite. Jackob jumps back slightly.>"Jesus, you shouldn't have shown me the damn thing. Sweet lord, just put me under and don't mention where you put it. Not interested in knowing."kek
Honestly, it's fine that Dillion gave the no, IMO. If he still agrees to help us, he's our designated 'plausible deniability' agent. We have nothing connecting him to us that's not heresay, so if something happens, he is officially an independent entity. A spook until the end, really.
>>41490398>>41490398You know, we could probably sell a version of our parasite as a designer drug in alien space- have a clone peddle it in a faux synthetic frame like an aug that dispenses happy feelings and euphoria, while giving us a massive organic botnet. >>tfw your first time posting in hqq after lurking for the last five threadsFor Mother!
>>41491052and thus lyle got a new brother to reek untold havoc upon the humans territories with!
>>41491219It fits his personality really. Would not expect him to act any other way.
Do we still ahve the Hope Crew locked in comas in their specimen jars?
>>41491236Also at the end of the day, we're actually doing the universe a favor by putting lyle on a leash, the mans fucking insane, thats half the reason I was able to base a whole damn plot around the fact that its completely believable he'd be lugging around WMDs with him.
>>41491236Soooo...Brothers of Destruction?
>>41491266I believe so. We should do something about them after Lyle and Friends leave on the next mission.
>>41491236wreak.He ain't a Taidaren.
As fun as playing house with Lyle's friends is.Reminder.Take a more proactive stance on the 'parasite the civil management guys' front on Gemini. Send flies to scout and stake out all of the other protein recycling plants in the city. Whichever one gets inspected next, ambush and parasite the guy, instead of waiting for them to inspect the one with the Gemini hive in it.And with psionic reading unlocked, lay some camouflaged, fast drones that can spread out in the sewers beneath the most trafficked areas that humans walk around, the mall or something.It can then skim their surface thoughts and try and find someone who works as a bodyguard for Parliament representative like Killinger.
>>41491416Yeah yeah yeah, all work and no play n'all that.
OH GOD OH GOD HIVE QUEST IS HERE
>>41491333forgive my shitty nub tier engrish. >>41491416I like this idea.
>>41491416It might be faster to cocoon the camo warriors that were laid and transform them into lean mean mindreading machines, while laying eggs to replace them and produce more mindreaders.It's a big city, we'll want a lot of em.
>>41491052Elsewhere in the hive, you observe as Elizabeth monitors the actions of your pod. It continues to scan the brain while Elizabeth rummages through the human's mind. She furrows her brow."These people are interesting, but I can't find much of anything to solve our specific problem." He sifts through memories like loose pages of notes. "Actually, these people are very interesting. These humans, they seem to be a part of some kind of techno-cult. Truly fascinating." She finds memories of the strange human shaped being with the metal mask."This tribe is governed by a machine." She says. "Old Earth didn't have any regulations on machine intelligence, I suppose it's possible they built some kind of early machine intelligence, or possibly just a highly sophisticated virtual intelligence, on the surface there isn't really a noticeable difference between a program made to fake sapience and actual sapience." The human twitches in the pod."According to their laws and decrees, the machine had arranged them into castes. Those who entered the swamp region where you found the relay would be marked, and you could only receive so many marks. Otherwise the swamp was forbidden." She says. "I can't say for certain if that machine was aware of what was in the swamp, but maybe it noticed a trend of lower lifespans among those who spent long spans of time there."She recedes from the humans mind as it convulses mildly in the fluid of the bio-tank. "Either way," she says, "I can't find any indication that they found any overt solution to it." She taps her finger to her chin in thought. "Of course, the problem isn't the signal itself, again, it's the information, and even then it's a slow process."Elizabeth steps back from the pod, observing the tribal earthlings with an academic curiosity.cont.
>>41491235Augmentations are strictly regulated in the Union, you'd only be able to distribute it through the much smaller and shadier black market, which is also a bit difficult to get into without lots of gang warfare.
>>41491808"I think our options are limited. Either we give Lee the internal infrastructure to organize and handle the flow of information, or, perhapse I could attempt some kind of repeat of what the Union attempted with..." She snaps her fingers. "The hu- the man with the weird eye. Yune wasn't it? Maybe if I can get my hands on some similar Skyl artifacts I can repeat the operation, or even find out why it worked." She begins to pace. You wonder if she's even speaking to you directly at this point or just thinking out loud."Of course I can't even say for sure if that did work. They only had Yune for a limited amount of time. He seemed to be showing good test results, sure, but he could have been days away from turning into soup for all I know." She looks to a passing drone."What do you think? I may be able to adapt the procedure I had to be less invasive even, although I can't promise anything either way.">Speak with Elizabeth (write in)>Recommend finding a Skyl artifact>Recommend performing the procedure>Other
>>41491920>Recommend finding a skyl artifactObvious plothook is obvious.
>>41491920Wouldn't Heretic have knowledge of this? Why do we need to go looking for artifacts, when we can ask an amalgamation of those who made them?
>>41491920>Recommend finding a Skyl artifact
>>41491920>Recommend performing the procedure
>>41491920>>Recommend finding a Skyl artifact
>>41491920>Recommend finding a Skyl artifactIf we can't find it then we can >Recommend performing the procedure
>>41491821Well what I meant was more selling it like a designer drug, the Aug mention was more how to sell ot.less as a crazy bug implant and hide it as something that looks more 'human'
>>41491920>Recommend finding a Skyl artifactMoney talks, and we have lots of money.
>>41491920>Recommend performing the procedureWhat's the issue with that again?It's what Elizabeth has.
>>41491920Recommend performing the procedure.
>>41491979You can't fucking sell something you insert in your chest cavity as a 'drug', anon.Which totally isn't a regulated market too, I'm sure.
>>41491920See, really should have had Lyle bust open Yune's skull and loot his implant before vaporizing him.
>>41491920>>Recommend finding a Skyl artifact>>Recommend performing the procedureWe perform the procedure on Lee but still go after those artifacts out of academic curiosity.
>>41492077Sounds reasonable enough.
>>41491962Because the Skyl didn't make most of the Skyl artifacts. The Crystal gods did.
>>41492112These are post-rebellion artifacts the Union has from Darwin, retard. They made all of the ones we're talking about.
>>41491920>>Recommend performing the procedureNeed Lee back in tip top shape if we are going to use him for our flesh OPs program.
>>41492134How do you know that again?
>>41491920>>>Recommend finding a Skyl artifactGotta admit, I'm curious.
>>41492023You would honestly be surprised.Hell, it would actually be a better deal for the customer than most drugs.Just call it a Biotech refinement and Injector implant.
>>41492159By paying attention.>>39889614>Between what Gilliam knows and what you know, you can safely say that the relics are the remains of Skyl attempts at unlocking the secrets of psionics themselves. > While none of the artifacts he has seen hold anything of value to you, beyond knowing the limits of their research, you have no way of knowing if any more advanced devices exist where they found them.
>>41491920"What about the Skyl themselves? They could produce more.""Possibly," she says, "but we don't know much about the artifacts themselves, and I'd like to be able to get a control sample at least. They may very well have been a kind of prototype to the one I was hit with, so it seems like a bit of a half-baked approach. If Lee is concerned about the genetic alterations, I'm sure we can figure out a way around that, or at least limit it. I can focus on that if you'd like, or go over some more Skyl notes and see if I can figure something out on that angle while you try to get one.">Study the Skyl database>Research Elizabeth's mutations>Other
>>41492247>>Study the Skyl database
>>41492247>Research Elizabeth's mutations
>>41492286Vaughn can only do one thing at a time. Pick which one she focuses on first.
>>41492247>Study the Skyl mutationsAKA: Both
>>41492247BothWe need to be able to reverse bio-engineer Elizabeths mutation
>>41492247>Study the Skyl database
>>41492312Well she can't very well study her own mutations from inside a bio-tank can she? I suppose we'd have to do the other one first.
>go up or down>FUCK CHOOSING I CHOOSE BOTH>the mind of anon.txt
>>41492404What is doing one and then another>the mind of retard
>>41491920>The hu- the man with the weird eyeShe's getting more and more separated from the human condition isn't she?It's like QD WANTS her to become Kerrigan. And i say go for it
>>41492420that would mean picking the one you're doing first and doing the other later is a different vote.
>>41492428I'm starting to think she never particularly wanted to be human in the first place.
>>41492453Saying it now expedites it instead of having another half hour vote on it laterlrn2bgudr
>>41492428I think he does. There was a Quest Discussion thread earlier where he (or at least someone claiming to be him) said she want mutations, she's just been too busy to say so.
>>41492478Yeah I get that vibe too
>>41492453Also anon I'm sorry for harsh words, kneejerk reaction.
You guys should get an IRC set up for quest discussion and planning
>>41492521Imagine if we had let Seiner live and he sees her in full Hive Hybrid/Chimera/Kerrigan mode flanked by bodyguards of the Hive AND Unity
>>41492564Fuck it. Clone him with his memories just so we can kill him again.
>>41492549Planning requires very little metaphorical bandwidth. An IRC is overkill.
>>41492549Man we really should. We've done tons of brainstorming over alternative places we could discuss quest plans outside of the quest threads themselves, but I think the furthest we've gotten is the 1d4chan page, and that doesn't seem to have quite taken off.
Actually, yeah. Can we just ask her about a shopping list, augment-wise? Maybe while we're studying her mutations we can add some stuff to her.
>>41492616What about an actual shopping list while we're at it, we can have Lyle pick up groceries when he heads out to fuck with Michaels and co. She seemed to like his jerky.
>>41492611If it hasn't taken off it's indicative you don't need another one, not that you do.>>41492616Already did that. Science is more important.
>>41492657We could always synthesize that stuff.
>>41492247"Both are good." Your speaker says. Elizabeth lets out an exhausted sigh."Well from what I've gathered from what the Union figured out, the artifacts seem to essentially just be a kind of psionic amplifier, probably a test device if anything, or a part of some larger experiment. It's that bit I'm concerned about, which is why I'd like to be able to study one myself before saying anything for sure, and again, even then I can't be sure it's not actually a horrible idea. The other option, however, would offer some more control over the situation, although admittedly it is a bit of an extreme procedure."She takes a breath, then closes her eyes for a moment."I'm sorry, I'm tired and rambling, but I just keep finding dead ends, and if the records from the labs, and that researcher's mind are anything to go by, I'd say Lee has maybe a month at most before observable symptoms start to show.">Offer augmentations>Discuss other matters (write in)>Other
>>41492698Another item to sell in the Hive Skymall Magazine
>>41492677Pretty sure we just asked her in general if she was interested, not specifically what she wanted.
>>41492715>>OtherMeanwhile, in the sewers!
>>41492609It could be fun>>41492611The BQ IRC really took off so it could be a good idea to try
>>41492715>Offer augmentations>Discuss other matters Also is there anything else that we could give you to make your life more comfortable.
>>41492715>Offer augmentationsIncluding a Parasite. Same deal with Jackob though. I don't see any need to start mindfucking her.
>>41492715>OtherTell the unity and skyl about this issue
>>41492787This. Offer augmentations, as well as general life comforts.The Hive's resources are at her disposal, should she so need them.
You can stop trying to max out Social Links any time now. You're starting to sound needy.
>>41492853But how will we get the final card in the Hermit Arcana?
>>41492715>>Offer augmentationsI think you need a second heart Elizabeth.
>>41492876by being a hermit
>>41492892>>41492790Spending days on augmentation takes away from valuable Science Time. Lee's life is on the line.
>>41492931He's got a month and she's mentally exhausted.
>>41492931You are right.Let's freeze lee in stasis for time beng
>>41492931Doesn't it only take a day to do everything now?
>>41492963This is important guys. This has been indicated by her sigh. She's still human, and tires like a human.
>>41492995Exactly. She needs some R&R...a critical human flaw. We must fix this as soon as possible.
>>41493017We get her a PS4, and a PC with Fallout4 on it. that should fix her burn out.
>>41493158More like burn her down into the ground.I don't believe his lies
>>41492715"Is there any way the hive can be more comfortable? Or improvements?" She rubs her eyes."Sure, I think I'd prefer to adapt to the environment than have it adapt to me." You send her the thoughts regarding your available augmentations, and she flips through them with her mind."These would make my research a lot easier, and just help me move around the hive. A lot of the tunnels are too dark, or just outright vertical drops. If anything I think I'd prefer to just be able to move about without needing an escort, plus a second heart just makes sense, it's a blatant design flaw."[Requested Augmentations]Weaver graft – (20N 10M)Chemical fabricator - (8N)Fermentation gut – (14N 5M)Reacher – (15N 5M)Sting whip - (7N)Sting fingers – (6N 10M)Strider – (12N 10M)Reactive pupils – (2N)Thermal pits – (2N)Echolocation – (2N)Bio-digital interface – (1N)Second heart – (4N)>Accept>Recommend>Other
>>41493182>plus a second heart just makes sense, it's a blatant design flaw."Why can't our new son be more like our daughter?
>>41493182Holy shit she going full Kerrigan>AcceptGive them to her as we study her mutation
>>41493182>Chemical fabricator - (8N)>Fermentation gut – (14N 5M)>Sting whip - (7N)>Sting fingers – (6N 10M)You're preparing in case of battle?
>>41493260Hey, let her have what she wants. I want our scientist lady to be fully capable of going toe-to-toe with Lyle.Of course, we should also implant her. Don't want another Smith incident.
>>41493260Better safe than sorry. Not to mention the Weaver graft can possibly be used to carry six different weapons
>>41493182>plus a second heart just makes sense, it's a blatant design flaw."SHE'S LEARNING.
>>41493182Holy dooly, she's going total Kerrigan.I love it. We should make a remark about how most pleasing it is.
>>41493182Fuck son, she's going to be just as terrifying as any warrior should someone or something make an attempt on her life.
>>41493296Only use one without missing everything
>>41493317Unity won't even recognize his dear old mum
>>41493182"A pleasing set of choices. We will take the finest care in preparing your improvements."
Wait how old is this hive again?
>>41493182"Do you expect to be in combat?""Well, no, but in all honesty life as a scientist would be so much simpler if I could double as a chemical lab and had the same kind of immune system as the drones. Keeping syringes in the hand is just convenient, and, well, to be frank with you, I've almost fell down a pit so many times trying to walk around here that having a zip-line in my arms just feels like a decent safety precaution, but maybe you're right, it's not exactly needed.""No, improve is improve! The Hive is pleased to help!" Your speaker says.>Offer parasite>Do not>Other
>>41493420Less than a year, I think. We're incredible.
>>41493444Well I was thinking if it was under a month. But it seems to be between that and two months actually.
>>41493435>>Do notWith her augments, I don't think she needs it anymore.
>>41493435Offer parasite then switch our attention to something else. I want our shadow runs or drone combatsAlso page ten alert, are we getting a second thread tonight?
>>41493435>Do notShe is effectively one of us anyway, no need to add this to her now.
>>41493435>Offer parasiteMight as well. Just in case she gets some freaky space disease or somehow grievously wounds herself in a lab explosion or something.
I'm awake and glad we're back after 5 weeks.I worked on some ship designs during all that time, including a suggestion for a Destroyer Hive Ship. I think I'll post them at the end of this thread.
>>41493435>offerWe can't make a clone of her with memories now. Need a parasite to get a decent copy afaik. QM confirm?
>>41493435>>Offer parasiteShe already knows they exist, and keeping them a secret is the sole reason not to offer them to people.And yes CHANGE SCENERY soon. Time to read New Prescott's collective mind.Or adopt that suave conman in the town of Bedrock and his stone age family.
>>41493435"The Hive also can offer other options for health benefits." You say, she thinks briefly on it."I don't see any harm in it." She says. "Either way, I could use some sleep. Maybe I can figure something more out in the morning.""It is the morning." You say. "You have not slept in several human sleeping cycles.""Well, it's the evening somewhere." She says as she yawns, allowing a medical pod to pull her in as it seals closed.I think we should call this thread here. We can take a quick break, answer any quick questions and get the second thread started.
>>41493694How does it feel to get back in the QM seat QD?
>>41493694Sounds great. Thanks a ton for running QD. Looking forward to the second thread.
>>41493694>"Well, it's the evening somewhere." She says as she yawns, allowing a medical pod to pull her in as it seals closed.Damn, she's practically like a daughter of the hive.You could she's almost like a... queen, of sorts.
>>41493694>>41493694There's still no new star map is there, damn you hexographerHave you considered uploading the map file? Might be able to help and it doesn't contain anything not in the PNG right.
>>41493750It'd be possible.
>>41493694Quick question. Cloning. Can we clone people with their memories until the moment of death if they are implanted with parasite?
>>41493694what is Dillion thinking about all of this. And Jackob For that matter
>>41493694>our gaggle of 'adopted' children sleeping in podsStrangely adorable.
>>41493694Seconding this question >>41493793
>>41493694So, say we wanted to find Lyle's Broker and parasite him.Do we have known contacts of his that aren't Lyle to trace him through?Would we need a big fat bribe to the bank to unveil info about the guy who pays Lyle, or to tip us off the next time he orders a package or a new FTLComm as to where and when that package arrives?I assume it'd have to be a big bribe. Or have the bankers parasited already.
>>41493793Obviously yes. I think we covered that a long time ago.
>>41493906We did not. So obviously we've no idea.
>>41493925It's an obvious yes entirely separately from the possibility we brought it up before. Just from the principles of what parasites do, merge with the host's nervous system.
Right. Posting those Hve Ship designs starting with the destroyer then. I wish we had long-range ship weapons. I would've put one on a spinal mount.Destroyer class Hive Ship8000N 15000MSpinal: 1 Railgun, 1 Plasma LanceTurrets: 4 Ion, 8 CyclotronFixed: 12 Linear Particle Beam, 6 Plasma lanceAuxiliary: 20 AutocannonDefensive shields 3100N 9300MRapid Damage Control 930N 1240MAtomic Self Destruct 200N 200M94 Bulkheads 0N 47000M20 stinger launchers 10000N 6000M10 cruise launchers 6000N 4000MFusion Core 520N 2600MHeavy armour 15500N 62000M44250N 147340MThis ship is designed to be a hammer. It works independently, and is very likely to win any one-on-one ship combats. It has the dual purpose of seek-and-destroy the enemy’s flagships, capitals, and sub-capitals, and serve as a distraction or bait. It slams right in the middle of the enemy fleet, wrecking all sorts of havoc and making itself a clear threat, causing the enemy to focus more on it than the other ships manoeuvring. Enemy capitals may even move away from it into position of our choosing, if used correctly. It is not well equipped to deal with swarms of small fighters and indeed has none of its own, but if most enemy fighters are busy attacking the ship and taking pot shots on its shields and armour, all the better. Can also be used as a false Flagship. It certainly looks the part. Use it wisely though, it costs a lot. May add a Ram later.
>Elizabeth literally going SC1 KerriganGood daughter. Best princess.
>>41493739>>41493736I missed running so much, it's good to be back.>>41493766I'm going to re-make it again. I think part of the problem is that hexographer shits a brick when it comes to large map files, so I think I'll try using several smaller files maybe.>>41493793Not quite. There is a lot going on in the brain at any given time, and while your parasite has full access to it, it's just too much data to preserve all at once.To put it another way, the parasite has a library card, but it still can't carry out every book if the library catches fire. You can still take a lot, however, but it's not fast and complete enough to cover all the way up to the very moment of death. A "resurrected" clone would have a very hazy memory of that particular day, as if it were a dream that doesn't quite make sense.>>41493804Dillon is very unsure about everything at the moment. Jackob is just trying to roll with things it seems.>>41493863You're really not sure. The Broker is a rather mysterious individual in the criminal underworld who takes great pains to avoid getting too close to the business personally.
>>41493978I personally think it is yes as well. Does not change the fact that it's much better to have QM confirmation.
>>41494018>A "resurrected" clone would have a very hazy memory of that particular day, as if it were a dream that doesn't quite make sense.Well thats still pretty great. Thanks QD. Really great to have you back.
>>41494010I think it's obvious we need to start an aggressive adoption campaign. More queens, more agents, more children.
>>41494080well we're about to become the Mother of Mothers to 700 Taidarens.
NextSupport class Hive Ship8000N 15000MSpinal: 1 Ion, 1 Plasma LanceTurrets: 6 Ion, 6 Plasma LanceFixed: 18 CyclotronAuxiliary: 20 BlasterRapid Damage Control 930N 1240MMicrofactory 100N 300M20 Bulkheads 0N 10000M4 G-field sensors 600N 800M30 Drop pod Launcher 1500N 3000M50 Swarm Launcher 20000N 10000M20 Stinger Launcher 10000N 6000MMicro FusionBallistic Armour 31000N 15500M72130N 61840MConsidering shields. Unsure.Missile Massacre: the ship. Unlike other capitals, this ship isn’t made for direct confrontation. The opposite of the Destroyer Hive Ship, it works best with other ships. It is designed to help other ships by weakening the enemy, intercepting enemy strikes, detecting stealth crafts, etc…It has a number of drop pods to support planetary campaigns as well. Costs significantly less minerals but more nutrients.Might not be a good class for Hive ships though, and might work better as several cruisers instead.
Really, thinking about it, it says a lot that she basically gets kidnapped and goes full fucking native in under a year.Granted, the artifact she absorbed probably had a lot to do with it, but still.
There are some aquatic prey animals that Valen will eat live like Jabba the Hutt.On Deep Song we can parasite or clone some so that when Valen eat them, the parasite can crawl out of the animal and through their stomach lining and implant itself. The Trojan Fish maneuver.
>>41494161The Hive is just that great a place to live.And the company is A++.
>>41494204What ever happened to the guy who wanted parasite flesh bags? That sounded fun.
>>41494161Given a choice I'd go native as well.
>>41494204The Parasites wouldn't survive.
>>41494003First of all you can't mix weapon types on a hardpoint type.And...well really that's all. That's a big enough mistake that it's not even worth considering.
>>41494212Like others were saying, speaks a lot to her mental consideration. I think that whole 'developing psionics' thing was the tipping point after she had that minor breakdown/thousand yard stare. She might've figured 'Welp, I've got a toe in the water, might as well dive in.'
>>41494161The Hive has a very attractive and comprehensive medical plan and no bureaucracy.You want retrieve artifact from Earth? Ok, we go.You want test subjects? Ok, here.You want access to all factions including the AI you freed? Ok, here.It must be like working with an unlimited budget after scrounging for scraps your entire life.
3rdCarrier class Hive Ship8000N 15000MSpinal: 2 Spinal Hangars (1 docking 4swarms both) 446400N 223200M Is this right? wow!Turrets: 12 Linear Particle beamFixed: 18 Plasma LanceAuxiliary: 20 Auto CannonRapid Damage Control 930N 1240MMicrofactory 100N 300M24 Bulkheads 0N 12000M70 Swarm Hangar 42000N 21000M30 Docking Bay 3000N 1500MMicro FusionCombat Armour 9300N 37200M509730N 297940M It costs more than the destroyer. I don’t think that’s right. Did I do it wrong? It said per 50m of hull size.Considering cloaking Field, but unsure.Another type of support Hive ship. This one does it lots and lots of fighters that can quickly go harass all hostiles or aid ships that have less fighters on hand. It can of course also house a number of shuttles. I designed it to have some degree of maneuverability to travel from one part of the field to another with ‘relative’ speed (and by that I mean not as slowly as with heavy armour) to deploy its ships. Practically a miniature fleet.Looking at the Mineral cost, it might not be a good idea.
>>41494252They can just do it real fast. Gastric juice isn't that immediately fatal.Or they can bust out on the way down their considerably large esophagus and never land in the stomach at all.
>>41494291Ah. Okay.What would you suggest then?
>>41494312They would never survive the eating part.
>>41494300holy shityoure right
>>41494312Depends on gastric juice.>>41494337Just pick one type friend. That is all that needs to be done.
Hey everyanon, didn't have a chance to post this earlier, but I put together a pastebin that includes every completed research topic in the quest. I figured it could come in handy if we wanted to trade with Theseus anytime in the future. The only thing I can think of that I left out was neurological interfacing, but in any case here it is.http://pastebin.com/sJ1jdaiL
>>41494348So 2 Railguns, 12 Ion, and 18 Plasma Lance then?
>>41494345You're assuming it's a fish that's large enough the Valen are eve going to chew before they swallow it. Which it shouldn't be.
>>41494137Maybe we could include that in a missile ambush fleet. The only problem with it that I can see is that you've split the turret mounts into two different weapon groups, which QD explicitly said he wouldn't allow for simplicity's sake. I don't know if he'll accept split spinal mounts.
>>41494391If you think that's what it needs then go for it. It's your design after all. Though personally if we're making a destroyer I'd suggest long/medium range weapons only.
>>41494301Oh Christ, why would you want two spinal hangars on a ship of that size, you only need one. If you want two spinal hangars worth of fighters, just lay a second fucking ship.
>>41494337Let's see here.>>41494003No need to use a full Hive Ship for this. Battleship at most, Hive Ships are too big for practical purposes in combat and aren't purpose-built for murdering like battleships are. The Heavy Fleet Battleship fulfills pretty much this exact niche already.>>41494137Missiles are best used from stealth, and we've got thousands of stealth-missile boats already. Why would you use a Hive Ship frame just to stick a bunch of missiles on anyway? That would just mean the enemy knows which direction to point all their flak cannons.>>41494301Cloaking field is useless on anything above a frigate. Heavy Fleet Battleship and Battlecruisers already operate as highly effective carriers and are much more hardy than this thing. Also with the Rip Drive we won't need any ships to carry non-swarmers.
>>41494468Or make second ship with two spinal weapon mounts.nice logic :^)
>>41494433We have no 'long range' ship weapons, actually. Something to research I guess.>>41494468Yeah I figured this was bad. That design's rejected then. Just have one or two battle ships serve as carriers instead or forget that idea entirely.
>>41494003>>41494137Is there any reason you didn't include shielding on these ship designs. It's a huge advantage that doesn't cost significantly more.
>>41494487then what's the point of hive ship if it has nothing it excels in
>>41494518A flying hive that can produce an invasion force in orbit above the planet you are currently invading.
>>41494549So a carrier then. Basically as burly as possible with shielding and lots of hangars?
>>41494365You're missing Union-Unity interface.
>>41494518Well, see: >>41494549They're not much use unless you need a mobile hive. You could also use a bare-bones one to rapidly construct a capillary tower for logistical of attack purposes.About the only good Hive Ship design I've seen (and I've tried coming up with a few myself) is the Citadel one on the 1d4chan page.
>>41494565Also boarding pods.
>>41494518When you have to evacuate all your planets and go to nomadic mobile hives. Which we aren't doing.And making a space elevator in 3 days when consuming a planet.
>>41494487Got it. Though for the Destroyer the whole point is that a Hive Ship as a sacrificial pawn will do more damage than a Battleship as a sacrificial pawn. It has multiple functions, including looking like a bigger scary threat than it is to keep the enemy fleet's focus while you maneuver, and manipulate then as they move their most important ships away from it.Anyways, might as well post my last stupid Hive ship design.
>>41494565And it can be connected to the surface of a planet with a space elevator and be used to creep a planet in hours instead of days
>>41494583>About the only good Hive Ship design I've seen (and I've tried coming up with a few myself) is the Citadel one on the 1d4chan page.linkbecause it sounds neat as fuck
Ark/Scavenge class Hive Ship (name pending)8000N 15000MSpinal: 1 Ion, 1 Consumption BeamTurrets: 12 Consumption BeamFixed:18 BlasterAuxiliary: 20 IonRapid Damage Control 930N 1240MMicrofactory 100N 300M24 Bulkheads 0N 12000M40 Docking Bay 4000N 2000M15 Swarm Hangar 9000N 4500MRest for Storage?Standard Armour22030N 35040MNon-combat Hive ship. Maybe cruiser versions would be better? Unless someone is ambitious enough to try to capture an enemy capital or sub-capital. It’s meant to recover debris an crippled ships for anything interesting. Thought this design may be over complicating things I admit. There’s probably an easier way to recover an enemy cruiser though. Storing parts of a biome or ecosystem is also an option, but no real reason for that yet. The design will probably change when the scavenger ship researches are finished.
>>41494616This.It's basically a planet devourer.
>>41494622Check OP, it's there.>>41494583Why aren't we making one then? I mean, thread's dying now, the chance to vote is here.
>>41494622They just told you where to find it. Are you slow. Read the OP that is there literally every thread.
>>41494622CitadelHull: Hive Ship 8000N 150000MCapacity: 5000/500Size: 6200 MetersModule Limit: 124Spinal Mounts (x1): Linear Particle Beam 6200MTurret (x12): Cyclotron Particle Beam 300MFixed (x18): Railgun 360MAuxiliary (x20): Cyclotron Particle Beam 200MArmor: Heavy (15,500N 62,000M)Armor: Ballistic (31,000N 15,500M)Power: Fusion Core (510N 2550M)Utility: Defensive Shield (3,100N 9,300M)Utility: Rapid Damage Control (930N 1240M)Utility: Spinal Hangar (Docking Bays) (223,200N 111,600M)Module: (50x) Bulkhead (25,000M)Module: G-field sensors (150N 200M)Module: (5x) Drop pod launcher (250N 500M)Module: (20x) Swarm hangar (12,000N 6,000M)Module: (20x) Stinger launcher (10,000N 6,000M)Module: (5x) Cruise launcher (3,000N 2,000M)Swarm Fighters (1,000): (Auto-cannon)Hangar Space (620 Shuttle/1,860 Fighters)Cost: 297,640N 398,950M Upkeep: 148,820N
Uh, we kind of neglected the 100 hybrid crew for many, many days before finally sending them on their way.Maybe we should aug them up and give them all parasites so they have healing and can start their own hive as a chimera? Can we do that retroactively?Also should have put some pods onboard the ship so those can be dropped off on distant star systems beyond the range of the blink drive.
>>41494639WHY DO ONLY USE FUCKING HIVE SHIP HULLS FOR YOUR DESIGNS?! THIS IS NOT THE STRENGTH OF THE HIVE, DAMMIT.
>>41494365This is really cool, thanks. It's amazing to see how far you've gotten.>>41494518The intention when I was working on balancing for things was to make it mostly a logistical ship. Think of it like the mothership from Homeworld. It builds other ships and drones, repair and support fleets, and even gather and process resources. It can also mount a very formidable defense, but it was originally intended to be protected by other craft while it serves the role of force projection.They make for good carriers, command ships, long range fleets, or just for making a really big first impression during diplomacy.
>>41494708>http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest_talk:Hive_Queen_Questthankswe need one
>>41494730Well with you and me we got two votes for starting construction now.Any takers? While the thread's here
>>41494708lets do it son
>>41494708>Spinal Mounts (x1): Linear Particle Beam 6200M0/10 would not layAbsolutely nothing scalesto 6 kilometers properly except for the Railgun. an LPB longer than 300 meters is pointless.
>>41494761I'll support it. Really I think we should handle all the logistical stuff at the end of next thread though.If this actually gets put to a vote there are a lot of minor clerical things we need to change.
>>41494799>>41494802Right then. Next thread, with railgun instead of LPB.
>>41494708This looks good, but why don't we hold off on building an actual hive ship until our research into the rip drive and scav tech (grappling hooks, ram) is finished. It'd be a bitch to add such features retroactively.
>>41494708I would also like to build one.>>41494799Maybe with a railgun instead though.
>>41494724This is a non-combat ship (even if it's a stupid one). It saves up on resources.Also, literally my first attempt at ship design. You can just nix it. I doubt anyone wants to have them made. I'm like that one retarded Quantum thinker.
>>41494828Nah man, we'll just make another one. They cost nothing.
>>41494725I'll support building this >>41494708with a Railgun on the spinal instead of a LPB
>>41494725On Gemini. We need eggs. Eggs of mind reading drones spying on all of the humans!Psionic: Moderate 50NSight: BasicAcoustic: BasicOlfactory: BasicMandible: Combat 1NBlade: Combat 1NArms: Combat 1NLegs: Sprint 1NWings: Moderate 2NUtility: Acid glands 1NCarapace: Mimetic skin 2NCarapace: Adaptive camouflage 8NSize: MediumChassis: Basic 0Cost: 69NIt's a big city, so 100 of these to spread out in the sewers beneath the humans.
>>41494828Its actually incredibly easy to retrofit our ships.
Aren't hive ships supposed to be x2 spinal mounts? Why not have a railgun and a LPB?
>>41494799But that's wrong. The potency of the LPB increases with the length of the weapon, just like the railgun. What makes it handy on such an oversized vessel is it's high rate of fire, making it much easier to hit moving targets, which is pretty damn relevant on a hive ship, being the crawling behemoth it is. But yeah, railguns would come in handy for bombarding entire continents, so either works.
>>41494881I think consensus is that we'll use that design but we'll swap LPB for Rail, the other spinal is for hangar.
>>41494906Consensus might change with >>41494891
>>41494881I thought we can't split hardpoints?
>>41494918It might, but truth be told both are good. They're sidegrades.
>>41494891With diminishing returns that diminish far sooner and more drastically than the railgun, which continues to increase in potential.>>41494881Goddammit Thinker we literally just went over this. You're getting recycled.
>>41494865Just lay 50 mind-reading Ghost Beetles. No need for an entirely new drone design.
>>41494948>Goddammit Thinker we literally just went over this. You're getting recycled.I'm just a relay.
So I've been looking at the star systems and the unnamed red giant has two planet of interest: the toxic world and the irradiated world.Collecting some of the fumes from the toxic world would improve our already formidable resistence to toxicity and may give us a new gas weapon to use.The irradiated world we can use to test radiation resistant drones. I just don't like the idea that there's an environment that we can't make a drone who would survive.Worth looking into? As small research and such.
>>41494891>>33712528 >Linear particle beams>The longer the particle projector is the more powerful the weapon becomes, however because of the nature of the speed of light, lengthening the projector gains diminishing returns.
>>41494948I hope you realize in the vacuum of space, the distance required to have a notable impact on an LPB could be measured in hundreds of thousands of miles.
>>41495041What.We are debating the length of the spinal weapon not the distance to the target, what the fuck are you yammering about.
>>41495090I thought we were debating the effective range of such a weapon in different lengths.What are you arguing about?
>>41495131We weren't debating that. Check again anon.
>>41495131>>41495200Right, you asked what we were arguing.Basically railgun gets more damage with length.So does LPB, but not as much as railgun.Railgun gains are exponential, while LPB are diminishing.
>>41495131If tripling the length of a railgun triples the amount of work you can apply to increase its kinetic energy and make its velocity a bigger fraction of lightspeed, tripling the LPB's size from 2km to 6km doesn't give the same proportionate results because it's already at like 99% lightspeed by that point.It can't benefit as much as railgun does, since its particles are so lightweight they take much less to accelerate.The power of both diminishes extremely slowly in a vacuum, that's irrelevant. It's about their power right out the gate.
>>41495221Length of mount, that is. Not distance to target.
>>41494968It's a new design either way.And yes there is, there's no need to spend on combat for something that isn't going to be in combat since it's too busy stealthily clinging to the ceiling of the sewers and listening to people for whoever thinks Killinger's a cunt based on personal experience instead of TV.