You are Sallazar, a young wizard who has recently left the army. You have taken a teaching job at Egwen Girls Convent.In addition the Headmaster of the school wants you to run the schools adventurers club, to give some of the schools more...unusual...girls something fun to do.The Adventurers Club http://pastebin.com/t467eb4qSheets in Excel https://www.dropbox.com/s/ba1zu710zhochvr/Character%20sheets.xlsx?dl=0#_=_Classes and Races http://pastebin.com/wCst2V8BQuest Rules http://pastebin.com/RG9EAvPqMain Character http://pastebin.com/xHFh2iz2Setting http://pastebin.com/ej98zdgDContinent Map http://ibin.co/260vHqwvCza9QM Twitter https://twitter.com/anAspiringQMQM Askfm http://ask.fm/AnAspiringQMArchive http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Egwen%20School%20QuestYou’re sat in a small room in the Grey Hands thieves guild: a guild in the poorer part of Veltwing – Capital of Lysva, it’s midnight, or thereabouts.In there with you is the guildmaster; a hulking man close to seven feet tall called Hostern. He has grey dead-looking skin, and he smells of some sort of chemical preservative. Jathrul doesn’t think he’s a vampire, but he’s some sort of undead, apparently.With him are two more grey-skinned men. Between them they are holding a bound and gagged Jathrul. Jathrul was one of the Stone Eyes – the scouts and spies of the Walls. He’s a career criminal whom you never liked at the best of times. You recently found out that he looted your friends corpse rather than bring him back for a proper burial; you’d kill Jathrul and not feel guilty about it all, but maybe he could prove useful.There’s also an invisible hedge mage standing in the corner.Hostern is leaning over the small table between you, and just asked you what reward you want for bringing Jathrul back to him. If you let him, he’ll probably take his time killing Jathrul slowly.
Jathrul tried to steal from Hostern a very valuable item that Jathrul sold him: Thrandel Greensteels breastplate. Its the last real, tangible connection you have to a friend who was like a brother to you. It sounds like a story: the noble dwarf prince befriending the poor boy who grew up in the slums.But the truth is more prosaic; as a non-dwarf and a mage, even a military one, you were allowed to address Thrandel without having to bow and scrape before him. Your friend valued honesty and appreciated someone who could tell him when he was wrong. He treated you better than your fellow humans and even sent away a human knight who called you commoner filth. You can admit to yourself that there’s almost nothing you wouldn’t have done for Thrandel.You’re not leaving here without his breastplate. Its something you can take back to his family so they have something to bury. There’s no way it deserves to be held by a bunch of thieves.But there’s also Jathrul to think of: scum though he is, he’s smart enough to be scared of you, and you have both a Geas and a contingent spell on him that could take his life with a single word from you.Groundskeeper Answick is doing his best to teach your girls some of a rogue’s skills, but Jathrul is probably far more skilled. If you save his life here, and keep a close watch on him, he could come back to the school with you.But Hostern is looking at you like he expects an answer. What do you say?>I want the breastplate (trade Jathrul for the breastplate)>Jathrul owes me a debt; you can’t have him>Give me Jathrul and the Breastplate else I’ll burn this entire place down and take them>Other (what?)You have the following spells active: Spell Mantle (Stoneskin, Protection from Arrows, Spell Absorption), True Sight, Mind Blank
>>41173816>I want the breastplate (trade Jathrul for the breastplate)
>>41173816>I want the breastplate (trade Jathrul for the breastplate)As much of good as new trainer would be, I don't want anything to do with someone like Jathrul.
>>41173816>Give me Jathrul and the Breastplate else I’ll burn this entire place down and take themI'll be honest, I just want to kill the entire guild.
>>41173816>I want the breastplate (trade Jathrul for the breastplate)they are a thieves guild i'm sure they have someone more competent than Jathrul.Also make clear that you have a scoree to settle with the dwarf as well an are mostly unwilling to let him be punished by someone else.
>>41173876>they are a thieves guild i'm sure they have someone more competent than Jathrul.We are not hiring any of these scum to teach our students.
>>41173863We can do it after getting breastplate
Trade Jathrul for breastplatePlease roll 1d20+11 to negotiate>>41173890Thank you
Rolled 5 + 11 (1d20 + 11)>>41173906
Rolled 4 + 11 (1d20 + 11)>>41173906
Rolled 11 + 11 (1d20 + 11)>>41173906
>>41173906How does the law view undead?
>>41173887I was just saying that they whould probably be better teachers than him, not that we should go with it.But it IS an option.
So I say we should try opening with End to Undeath as these guys are more dangerous than that hedge mageBut I also would love to capture the leader or even one of his lackeys for researchWhat do you guys think?
>>41173925generally illegal unless controlled by a licensed necromancer.But no one bothers to arrest them unless they do something that attracts notice.But by the law, killing Fostern (if he is undead) would not be a crime in Lysva
>>41173941>But I also would love to capture the leader or even one of his lackeys for researchResearch for what?
>>41173951If we can use themHow to kill themWhat they areIn this orderWe also could sell them for quick money to mages guild
>>41173964>If we can use them>How to kill them>What they areWe don't need to take them to find out how to kill the, we can find out on the spot, and the other two we can just ask the Headmaster who is a Master Necromancer.
>>41173941Assuming End to Undeath even works on them, yes.Capturing one of them isn't really a concern to me, and I see no real reason for Salazar to pull his punches against a mostly-unknown foe when the breastplate is so important to him.
“I want the breastplate” you say, meeting Hosterns gaze. You can see by the way his eyes tighten there’s no need to say which one; he knows what you’re talking about.“Out of the question” he grunts in a low-born accent “too valuable, I’ll give you a hundred gold; no more.”It sounds like a refusal, but you know when someone is trying to strike a deal.“Please” you say, sounding ready to laugh “don’t insult me, the price for his life is set at eight thousand – I’d expect you’d pay that to see him dead.”The two of you go back and forth; Hostern raises his offer as high as two thousand gold, and no higher.“I’d have thought your reputation worth one old breastplate” you say, indicating Jathrul “Isn’t that worth everyone knowing that they can’t cross the Grey Hands and live?”“The breastplate is magic” says Hostern. Damn, of course he had his mages check it over, damn.“Two thousand gold for him” Hostern indicates Jathrul “in gold or trade, your choice, final offer.”What do you do?>Take the money (you’ll come back later for the breastplate)>The breastplate; or I destroy this place>Just attack (spell?)>Other (what?)
>>41174016>Disintegrate on Hostern
>>41174016Tell me that me spell we put on that thief is fireballPlease
>>41174034I dunno, was it?It's unspecified, just that its a killing spell. So yes, that's an option
>>41174016>Resilient Sphere around us>Trigger Fireball contingency on Jathrul
>>41174016>Other (what?)Fine, let me see wht goods you have to offer then.
Although when it was voted for, the votes specifically named Disintegrate, but I'm willing to retcon it to something else
>>41174016MisleadNo doubt they have some ranged weapons sported on us.
>>41174070Not worth itWe have mantle up>>41174016>Just attack (spell?)End to Undeath>Other (what?)Trigger Fireball
The thief may be a scum, but I question if we're or should be ruthless enough to use him as a living bomb just because.>inb4 wizards
>>41174016>End to Undeath
>>41174016>DisintegrateFireball sucks. At least trigger Chain Lightning or something if you're going to be a dickass wizard.
>>41174090>Not worth it>We have mantle upYou realise Stoneskin is not actually that big a protection and and there are lots of effects, such as paralysing touches or elemental damage that we are not protected against?>>41174090>>41174095Also guys, he most likely is a form of Flesh-golem.
So how strong is Acid Fog anyway?How many targets does Chain Lightning hits?
>>41174016>The breastplate; or I destroy this PlacePoint out that you see the invisible mage standing at the corner/ something else to show your power.
closing vote and counting
>>41174114>So how strong is Acid Fog anyway?Acid Fog is the best, but players here have no idea how to play wizards and go for the 100% offensive spell that most likely will fail because we aren't even sure the opponent is undead.
>>41174106We have spell absorption in mantleAnd this asshole probably has something that goes around invisibility anyway
>>41174125>We have spell absorption in mantleWhich doesn't do shit against either of those things?
I'm seeing 2 for End to Undeath and 2 for Disintegrate.Going with Disintegrate.Please roll 1d20+4 and vote on extra AE used, average of 3 votes used.
>>41174124Fireball is more shocking than Acid FogWith some luck we will get free spell out
Rolled 6 + 4 (1d20 + 4)>>4117413410>>41174136Its not "rather than Fireball" its "rather than End to Undeath".
Rolled 16 + 4 (1d20 + 4)>>411741345
Rolled 7 + 4 (1d20 + 4)>>4117413415>>41174136>With some luck we will get free spell outI have no idea what makes you think that, we won't.As Abjuration Wizard you don't sling around just fireballs like some evocation loser.
>>41174104>At least trigger Chain Lightning or something if you're going to be a dickass wizard.>suspected flesh-golem or artificial animated creature>use electricityHow about no?
You’ve had enough; you move your hands in the gestures of your spell even as you start mouthing the phrases to shape the arcane forces you control into something appropriately lethal.Hostern reacts quickly; he grabs the table between you and flips it at your face. You are thrown backwards against the wall as the table is smashed to splinters against your stoneskin spell. Well, he’s certainly very strong. You complete your spell just as he lunges at you. His hands brush your throat at the same time as you release your magic, a green ray briefly connects the two of you, and then Hostern is just...gone.[regular AE 43/56]“As you can see” you start to say “tangling with me is a very bad id-”Hosterns two grey thugs are on you just as fast as he was, their fists slamming into your face and chest, but utterly unable to hurt you; you don’t feel a thing.The hedge mage’s invisibility dissolves as he casts a spell at you to paralyse you. It is instantly absorbed by your own spell. You’re surprised his spell actually functioned, his gestures were so clumsy.[AE 48/56]Jathrul is lying on the floor, you have two grey-skinned thugs trying to punch you to death and failing, and one sloppy mage to deal with.The mage starts yelling “Intruder, get him!” There will probably be more thieves and thugs on their way shortly.What do?>Use spell (what?)>Intimidate them>Ignore them, just walk out (with Jathrul?)>Other (what?)
>>41174248>Missile Storm on the wizard
>>41174248So did we kill him?Also acid fog with exclusion of thiefTell him to take us to breastplate
>>41174248>Magic missiles for everyone!
>>41174248>Cast Acid Fog around you>Intimidate them
>>41174248Missile storm remaining targets
>>41174301>So did we kill him?Yes, via disintegration. There's not enough left to fill a thimble
>>41174315more importantly, did he have the prince's armor on his person when he vanished?
>>41174323you'll find out
>>41174332So he didSee fuckers?that's why you don't Disintegrate things when you are here to retrieve something
ok, looks like Missile Storm all the hostiles is the answer.Please roll 1d20+4 and vote on extra arcane energy used, average of 3 votes
>>41174332for some reason this doesn't fill me with confidence.Oh well, at least there's a few less thieves around.
Rolled 2 + 4 (1d20 + 4)>>4117434915
Rolled 12 + 4 (1d20 + 4)>>411743495 no more
Rolled 16 + 4 (1d20 + 4)>>411743498
Rolled 13 + 4 (1d20 + 4)>>4117434910
>>41174356What the hell is wrong with youWe don't have unlimited AE
>>41174380We have 56 thats not even counting our Abjuration reserve, makin sure our opponents are dead before their mates arrive, is signifcantly more valuable than saving a few points of AE of which we have more than enough.
>>41174393>We have 5648.
>>41174393We aren't fighting anything really strong manAnd only Abjuration spell that has any offensive utility is Resilient SphereUnless we can force others to read Explosive RunesWe will burn out before finding breastplate at this rate
>>41174402>Arcane Energy 56 (base 14)>>41174411>We aren't fighting anything really strong manWe have no actual idea of their combined HP>And only Abjuration spell that has any offensive utility is Resilient SphereYour ignorance isn't a good argument.>We will burn out before finding breastplate at this rateThis is asuming we have a reason to continue at this rate, so we don't have to is the reason for ending this fight fast before we get swamped by bandits because we didn't kill fast enough.
>>41174428>Arcane Energy 56 (base 14)>[AE 48/56]
>>41174439I was talking about our AE total, because the whole number obviously changes during the fight, its not a argument.
As the thugs punch and kick you, you block it out and focus on your spell. Dozens of bolts of magic force fly out with perfect precision, slamming into the two grey whatever-they-are and also into the mage. [AE 35/56]In seconds it is over, and all three are dead, merely bags of flesh and broken bones leaking fluids into the floor. The two grey things smell foul, like week-old corpses.You listen carefully as Jathrul thrashes on the floor and tries to catch your attention.You can hear shouted orders and running footsteps. The guild knows you’re here and soon you’ll have all of them to deal with.You wander over to Jathrul and remove his gag and the ropes restraining him. He climbs to his feet “Thanks Az-er Sallazar” he says “For a moment there I thought you were going to let them have me.”You don’t answer that, if they had given you the breastplate, you would have. Its probably in the treasure room, one floor up, and past a lot of thieves and several weak mages.“So ah, what do we do?” asks Jathrul, who is...hah, oh wow, he starts checking the downed bodies for valuables. Seems he hasn’t changed.What do you do?>Use Mislead to turn invisible, sneak up to the treasure room whilst everyone is distracted>Head to the treasure room, defend yourself as needed>Kill all the thieves>Other (what?)And Jathrul?>Leave him>Take him with you>Other (what?)
>>41174484>Use Mislead to turn invisible, sneak up to the treasure room whilst everyone is distracted>Tell him to run>Trigger the Contingency
>>41174484Can Scorching Ray penetrate targets?If yes kill themBy the way is this building made from wood?
>>41174484>Use Mislead to turn invisible, sneak up to the treasure room whilst everyone is distracted>Take him with you
>>41174505>Can Scorching Ray penetrate targets?yes, if powerful enough>By the way is this building made from wood?Most of it is, yes
>>41174484>Use Mislead to turn invisible, sneak up to the treasure room whilst everyone is distracted>Take him with youIf we're going to be making stealth rolls, someone that can roll well enough at that to cover our ass wouldn't go amiss.>>41174505>By the way is this building made from wood?That seems like a question to ask before voting to hurl around fire.
>>41174520Thanks for reminding me>cast Resist Energy fire
>>41174531There is no "Resist Smoke poisoning" spell.
>>41174538Wind Wall can be shaped to create path
>>41174484>Use Mislead >Take him withwe might need him to open locks and disarm traps, don't we?
>>41174558>>41174569So you want to keep casting wind wall wherever you go? Everytime you go around a corner?
>>41174582still leaves traps and perhaps some mana conservation I guess.
>>41174585Just when smoke is thickWe can always bail with teleport after getting breastplateWe should also scry for it
>>41174600>We can always bail with teleport after getting breastplateYes after we got there, which we have no idea where it is and how long we need to stay in the building to find it.You can do that shit once we are in the treasury and need to time looking for that thing.
Mislead + take Jathrul with you seem to be the winning votesPlease roll 1d20 for Jathrul to sneak along with you.
Protip: Mislead doesn't make others invisible
Rolled 15 (1d20)>>41174614nobody here but wizards...
>>41174617good for us that he's a stealth class then.
Rolled 11 (1d20)>>41174614
Rolled 16 (1d20)>>41174614
>>41174617Protip: Protips still make you look like a cunt.
You cast your spell and you disappear as an illusionary double appears in the same spot. At your mental command it runs out of the door to lead the thieves on a merry chase.[AE 31/56]As Jathrul goes to follow it, you grab him by the arm “Stick with me” you say. “Sallazar?” he asks, sounding unsure.“Right” you say “What’s the quickest way to the treasure room?”“Stairs at the end of the hall” he says “Am I invisible too?”“No” you say “so try not to be seen.”With your double running around making noise, the two of you easily make it to the treasure room. It’s protected by a huge iron door riddled with padlocks and bolts.You tell Jathrul to check the door for traps as you keep a lookout in the empty corridor.He takes his tools out and gets to work, after a few minutes he says proudly “All disarmed, now just give me a few more and I’ll have these-”“No time” you say, casting your spell and knocking on the door. All of the bolts slide back and the padlocks spring open.[AE 34/56]“The illusion won’t keep them busy forever” you tell Jathrul “We need to find the breastplate quickly.”“Right, right” says Jathrul, rubbing his hands together gleefully as he follows you inside.Inside the room are dozens of sturdy wooden boxes. You open them easily and tear through the boxes, looking for Thrandels Breastplate. After a thorough search you find it wrapped in a dirty cloth towards the back of the room, you remove its covering delicately.Behind you Jathrul is eagerly stuffing his pockets with gold.The breastplate is just as you remember it: a heavy reinforced thing coloured gold and bearing the Greensteel insignia on it. You smile, recalling how Thrandel always complained that it was so heavy it felt like he was carrying his whole houses legacy with him when he wore it.
The last time you saw this Thrandel was running to keep the drow back to give you enough time to break the wall and stop the invaders. You saw the rubble pouring down on him; you were too far away to save him, too exhausted. No, those are just excuses, you failed him.Your fingers tighten on the edges of the breastplate and you screw your eyes up to deny the tears that are ready to burst forth. You breathe slowly, trying to bring your emotions under control. When you open them again, you notice a dark stain on the top of the breastplate, it looks like...“He didn’t even bother to wipe your blood off your armour when he took it from you did he Thrandel” you whisper. Within you anger and sadness struggle and threaten to overwhelm you.Even in the midst of your grief, your mind is still working. You searched this room thoroughly to find the breastplate, and in doing so you found plenty of other treasures.A conservative estimate would put the total value of the non-magical coin and items here at around 20,000 gold.There’s also a half-dozen magic items here including weapons, light armour and a wand.But its all stolen; really you should hand it in to the Veltwing city guards...for them to pocket most of it themselves you think cynically. Perhaps Jathrul deserves some sort of reward too, you can still hear him grabbing as much as he can.What do you do?>Take it all (requires defeating the thieves first, or teleporting with it – which?)>Take as much as you can easily carry, then leave>Take only the breastplate>Other (what?)And Jathrul>Can keep what he’s grabbed>Gets nothing>Other (what?)Teleporting with all this treasure will take almost all the regular arcane energy you have left.
>>41174809>Take as much as you can easily carry, then leave>Can keep what he’s grabbed(until we teleported out, when he hands it all over to us)
>>41174809>Take as much as you can easily carry, then leaveWe won't defeat the thieves without using more AE, and then we wouldn't have enough to teleport the treasure out, so it would be pointless.>Can keep what he’s grabbed, for now
>>41174809Just leave. Tell Jathrul to meet you tomorrow if he can - we can lift the geas off him then.
>>41174809>Take as much as you can easily carry, then leave>>Can keep what he’s grabbed
>>41174809>Take as much as you can easily carry, then leave>Can keep what he’s grabbed>>41174833The vote to take everything is an either kill the thieves or teleport away kind of thing, I think. We wouldn't have to do both.
As much as you can grab, and Jathrul gets to keep what he's picked up.>>41174914>The vote to take everything is an either kill the thieves or teleport away kind of thing, I think. We wouldn't have to do both.Correct
>>41174914>We wouldn't have to do both.How would we do that? Carry it out physically?
You full your pockets and pouches with gold and valuable items, making sure to take all of the magical items as well – you can identify them later.When you’re carrying so much treasure that you jingle you say to Jathrul “enough, time to leave.”[3,000 gold gained][6 magic items gained: wand; shortsword; whip; chain shirt; belt; headband][Greensteel Breastplate gained]“Just a bit more!” begs Jathrul, bent double under the weight of what he’s carrying.“No” you say “We go now!” and touching him, you teleport out of there to an empty alleyway far away, somewhere near Jathruls shack. There’s only the two of you around.“Urgh...” says Jathrul, not taking the teleportation well.When he’s recovered he takes a few steps away as if to leave, then turns to face where he thinks you are, still carrying all his treasure.You’re cradling the heavy breastplate in your arms, the breastplate Jathrul took from the body of your closest friend.“So uh, we’re even?” he says “You’ll remove the spell?”What do you do?>Let him leave, but don’t remove the spells>Remove both spells>Persuade him to come to the school and help your club>Kill him>Other (what?)
>>41175042>Kill himI don't want him to sell us out when the thieves guild catches him again.
>>41175042>Let him leave, but don’t remove the spellsHis aid should be worth at least his life, and he might be useful in the future if we ever have business in this city again.>>41175074He literally can't if we don't remove the spells, otherwise he explodes.
>>41175042>Remove both spellshe led us here, he helped out and he has no reason to go after us. There is no reason to murder him.
>>41175077>He literally can't if we don't remove the spellsOr soemone else does it. Its not impossible and a risk I'm not willing to take.Its not like we're the only wizard in the world.
>>41175084He has to resist them being removed to the death and isn't allowed to seek their removal, otherwise he explodes.
>>41175042>killing him wont bring back thorin>get him to join the club
>>41175091>He has to resist them being removed to the deathDoesn't mean he will succeed, paralyze him, dispell, poof gone they are.
>>41175094I honestly can't think of a situation where that could happen.
>>41175116We literally did that in PoJ.We didn't even bother paralyzing actually. We just knocked him out.Its incredibly easy.
>>41175042Hard choice but...>Let him leave, but don’t remove the spellsJust in case the thiefes catch him.
Welp, looks like Jathrul reached the end of his usefulness.
>>41175042>>Remove both spellsthen >Persuade him to come to the school and help your club
>>41175128So the situation would just require us to send him to kill someone of extreme mercy and power.That's so likely.
>>41175116>someone looks for the guy that robbed the thieves guild>catches him>finds out he can't talk because of geas>knocks him out>dispells>BamOr he could just threaten to torture him to make him talk about all the things he can talk about. Since our geass was hardly loophole free.
>>41175145>So the situation would just require us to send him to kill someone of extreme mercy and power.I have no idea what you're trying to say here.The principle we applied there would have worked with anyone, the specific people involved don't matter. It just needs to be someone who is as powerful as Sallazar.
We're playing a psychopath that should be let nowhere near children, it seems.Edgy.
>>41175138>looks like Jathrul reached the end of his usefulness.War traumatized wizards man, don't fuck with them.
>>41175192>killing the dude who desecrated your best friends corpse>edgyThis word really has come to mean "decisions I don't like".
Now there come important questionsHave we left anything that can be used to scry for us behindAndWhy the hell haven't we burned this shithole before leaving
>>41175205are you personally from some third world shithole where this is considered a valid reason to murder someone in cold blood?or do you think that sallazar is a psychopath?I guess he is a wizard so it would make some sense. It just makes him kinda hypocritical when talking of things like teamwork, trust, morality etc...
>>41175243>Why the hell haven't we burned this shithole before leavingBecause the fire would have most likely sprung over to other nearby buildings and caused a potentially large aranging conflagration killing dozens of innocents in the process?
>>41175248>are you personally from some third world shithole where this is considered a valid reason to murder someone in cold blood?Maybe you should try this "role-playing" thing, in which you portray the actions of a person that perhaps doesn't share your cultural values.And the fact that "murder hum" was a option ever since we heard about what he did, its pretty obvious where Sallazar comes from this IS worth murdering him over.
>>41175158Salazar is a pretty strong wizard, it's a little difficult to imagine there's anyone that would be anyone interested in the matters of this guild, able to defeat his spell and foolish enough to think that antagonizing a Capital-W Wizard is worth the 3,000 gold and handful of magic items we took.Unless one of them is secretly an artifact of doom/anti-doom.>>41175192I think it's kinda funny how Salazar wants to help and protect the girls when he himself is more broken than any of them. Except maybe Tisinia.But this isn't much of an edgy action, Salazar's anger is mostly justified. Personally, I just have a hard time killing people that aren't hurting others or getting in the way, and even that varies depending on how important the way in question is.>>41175277It's less that it's socially acceptable and more that he is extremely pissed over the whole "desecrated his blood-brother's corpse for personal gain instead of bringing back his body" thing, I think.
>>41175277not that guy but man, please dont bring the roleplaying, or in character, arguement up. not everyone play the quest like that
>>41175303>It's less that it's socially acceptable and more that he is extremely pissed over the whole "desecrated his blood-brother's corpse for personal gain instead of bringing back his body" thing, I think.I see no reason why both can't be true.As far as we can see it emulates a mostly medivalish/renaissance mindset, and then killing someone for corpse desecration was considered a perfectly reasonable thing to do.>>41175310>not everyone play the quest like thatThese people will have to understand that most others don't give a shit about their opinion then.
>>41175323fair enough, but same goes for everyone, really. also sorry, forgot to remove name
>>41175277Ok. So maybe we took a concept of honor murder from the dwarves or someone. I wonder what other murderhobo concepts we picked up.>murder him was an optionthere was also option to murder helpless prisoners in paladin quest, and it would be just as retarded to take. The only difference was that OP was compelled to point out that there's risk of falling involved.Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
>>41175303>Salazar is a pretty strong wizard, it's a little difficult to imagine there's anyone that would be anyone interested in the matters of this guild, able to defeat his spell and foolish enough to think that antagonizing a Capital-W Wizard is worth the 3,000 gold and handful of magic items we took.Well, it was pretty strongly hinted this Hostern was some sort of created or at least modified being.And 'someone' did that. We can't even be sure he led the guild in the first place.Its a fantasy setting, weird shit can happen.I wouldn't argue we absolutely needed to kill him for reasons of safety, even if it helps.It did however tip the balance in favour of killing him for me.
>>41175352>there was also option to murder helpless prisoners in paladin questI don't remember that. And even if it was the case, that doesn't disprove my point.Killing them WAS a thing that was reasonable to do within the context of the situation and characters.I never said that killing him is or would be considered the 'right' thing to do.
>>41175376So it's just an option you think Sallazar would take.Which brings me to initial point that it makes him really fucked up and probably unfit to serve as a teacher.
>>41175403Soldiers rarely are
>>41175303>But this isn't much of an edgy action, Salazar's anger is mostly justifiedSallazar has what he came for - the breastplate. He certainly has reasons to be angry at the thief, like him calling him names earlier. But he did help him recover the relic, against his will or not.
>>41175352>Just because you can doesn't mean you should.And just because you shouldn't doesn't mean you won't.Sal has a very personal grievances against this person, and has been put on the razor's edge of temper when he learned that this supposed loyal spy looted his best friend and beloved dwarven prince.>>41175403We've already established that Sallazar is an older PTSD Ron Weasley.
>>41175403>Which brings me to initial point that it makes him really fucked up and probably unfit to serve as a teacher.And I say it doesn't, because its most likely considered a understandable reaction in this settings value system.Its not the moral high ground option, doesn't mean it would be considered evil or inappropriate.
>>41175423Plenty of people with understandable reactions in a modern values system still aren't the kinds of people you want teaching children.
>>41175415>But he did help him recover the relic, against his will or not.No, he should have recovered the corpse rather than focusing on stealing from him and his Clan.Its obvious that not being able to recover the body is a huge deal for Sallazar and Tharandels people.
“Put the treasure down” you say to Jathrul.“What?” he says“Put the gold down, all of it” you say“Why?” he asks, looking suspicious“I’m going to end the spells” you say “if you’ve picked up any magical objects that might interfere, and things might go...wrong.” It’s all a lie of course, but Jathrul seems to believe you.He puts down the box of gold he’s carrying, and empties his pockets and pouches onto it.Finally he says “well?” and gives you an expectant look.“Betrayers Reward” you say. As you invoke the contingent spell Jathrul simply disintegrates, he doesn’t have enough time to curse you, or even look surprised.And then you’re alone in the alleyway, after killing a helpless person whom you had enslaved.You start to pile your own stolen goods atop the box, ready to levitate it and then teleport back to the inn. You put the breastplate down first, and then start piling up other valuables and coin.All whilst the Greensteel Breastplate seems to stare at you.“What?” you ask it “What was I supposed to do Thrandel?”The breastplate doesn’t respond.“Oh sure” you say “I *could* have let him go. And when they found him, and tortured him, and maybe found a mage who could break my spells, what then?”The Breastplate is still silent.“What, you think I did it because I was scared?” you ask “I’m not – I could have turned that whole building into a smoking ruin, and you know it! You think I’m scared of them sending killers after me? Every assassin they have could have come at me at once and I wouldn’t be scared. We found the Kirukan together Thrandel – the best dark elf assassin they have, and we beat them! I’m not scared!”The Breastplate still doesn’t respond to your outburst. But maybe, just maybe, you can hear Thrandel speaking. You remember when he sent that knight away.
>>41175421not loyal, dude was serving time because he was caught iirc
“The measure of a good leader is in the loyalty of those who follow him” Thrandel had said, sat in judgement of the knight, after he’d blamed you for the battle losses that day, losses that were as a result of the knights poor orders.“The loyalty of others is not your right, or even mine” Thrandel had said “We must earn it, every day, by deed and word. We cannot allow fear, or anger, or a desire for retribution to overcome us. We must rise above these things, we must be an example for others to follow.”You realise its not his voice you hear, its your own “We must rise above these things, we must be an example for others to follow.” you finish.You stare at the spot where Jathrul was standing, only moments ago. Then you sit down on the box, and start to cry.“I never meant to kill you Thrandel, I’m so sorry, forgive me....”[6,000 gold gained]---The next morning, you rise late, in fact you only wake when you hear a fist banging on your door.“Professor are you coming to breakfast?” Its Cleya. You open your eyes and look around, and the events of last night come flooding back. Last night you kept enough of your wits to hide all the loot.“I’ll, I’ll be down in a few minutes” you croak out. You hear Cleya walking away.Right, yes, must get washed, dressed, must be a teacher, must be an example.You head downstairs and join the girls at the breakfast table, barely hearing their conversation, something about to one of the city parks this morning, before your designated meeting at midday, to officially present your team for registration.What are you doing today? (before registration)>Go with the girls>Go back to sleep (timeskip to registration)>Make magic items (what?)>Other (what?)
>>41175466>Go with the girls
>>41175423>killing some guy just because I'm angry is not evil or inappropriateokay>killing some guy because he's witness to us busting up a small-time thieves guild is not evil or inappropriateyeah, because new leader of those thieves who could barely afford a hedge wizard to assist negotiations will spend inordinate amount of resources to track down someone who obliterated his former boss along with bodyguard and walked into his treasury like nobody's business.
>>41175466>Stay in your room>give the girls an extra two gold for the day>apologize to Chame>Spend the day being generally drained after yesterday's emotional rollercoaster.
>>41175466>Other (what?)Check that loot
>>41175447Enough to murder people over in a dank alleyway, apparently.I'm done with this argument, what's done is done. Just remember what your line of reasoning does to the character. And perhaps what it does yourself as well.
>>41175466>Go with the girlsProbably good to spend some of that money for something nice.
>>41175499>And perhaps what it does yourself as well.Man, anon. Its a game. Seriously, you're starting to take this a bit more serious than is healthy.
>>41175466>>41175489Yeah, this. I don't think Sallazar would be particularly good at a smile, today, so...let's just stay out of the way.
>>41175499>Just remember what your line of reasoning does to the character.I liked that scene, so I can't complain.Its not a interesting story if the character is too perfect from the start and has nowhere to develope.I mean, that can work too, but we already play PoJ.
>>41175466>Make magic itemscan we make anti-summoning amulets? This could be a good way to put a troubled mind at ease.
The really important question is, how do we explain where we got all that gold?
>>41175530Yup, really liked what Pally did with it.
spending time with the girls it is, writing
>>41175562>Sadly my dear friend died from natural cause and left me with all his money
>>41175590I suppose the headmaster is unlikely to ask for proof.
Pally, come the fuck on, dude. I didn't ask for these feels.
>>41175562Probably truth - that we found it in the den of scum that appropriated his highness breastplate.
>>41175659As I understood it we would have had to hand this over to the local authorities.
>>41175421Ironically our first name is the same as the founder of House Slytherin
>>41175676The royals will want to know where we found the relic. Maybe they'll help us deal with this technicality as well.
>>41175676Not sure if we're actually legally required to do so in this setting. I mean, how many times have adventurers taken down thieves guilds and looted the place with no trouble from the guards?Also, we'd only really have to explain it to the Headmaster, who is probably as cynical as us when it comes to the moral fiber of underpaid guardsmen around large amounts of wealth.
>>41175676Nah, we could use it to fund the club. The headmaster will probably understand if Sallazar properly explains to him.Besides, the guard is going to take it for itself anyway, might as well put to good use instead.
>>41175698I asumed that was intentional.
>>41175723>Nah, we could use it to fund the club. The headmaster will probably understand if Sallazar properly explains to him.No, I'm not saying we should do that, I'm saying legally we would be required to do it.Of course we don't.>>41175709>Not sure if we're actually legally required to do so in this setting.>But its all stolen; really you should hand it in to the Veltwing city guardsThis implied to me thats how it should be, but its not a clear statement.I just don't really want to take the risk.
>>41175709>>41175723Wizards gonna wizard.
You head out with the girls as they go out to the park. Its a beautiful autumn day and the sunlight brings out the varied colours in the leaves as you all walk through the gardens. You see sculptures of local artists, impossible-looking fountains and ponds with water flowing uphill, rolling acres of meticulously maintained lawn for people to sit and eat picnics on, rare trees and plants imported from across the continent, and birds of all shapes and sizes, and of glorious colours.At least, you register that those things are there, as you walk with the girls; they’re of little interest to you right now.You keep reliving the events of last night, what you did, and how Thrandel would have reacted, had he been there.You’re quiet throughout your walk in the gardens. And it’s no surprise that it does not go unnoticed.You all stop for a drink and a small repast, before leaving. You leave the girls at a table whilst you collect the food, and catch the tail-end of a whispered conversation as you come back, trying to avoid dropping the platter of food as you approach slowly.“You ask him” whispers Nevyn.“Why don’t you?” demands Cleya“I don’t know what to say” protests Nevyn “Kittrane-”“No” says Kittrane “he needs space, leave him alone, and leave me alone.”“Chame?” asks Cleya “Could you cheer him up, claim you’re in love with his hat and want to elope with it or something?”“No way, no how, nuh uh” says Chame, shaking her head frantically “Oh shh, he’s back!”You sit down, and share the plates out, without speaking. Finally, Cleya plucks up the courage.“Uhm sir” she says “are you sick? Is it something Chame did?”“Hey!” protests Chame “I did n- uh,” she catches your eye, and then shuts up, and goes back to eating. But you can still feel her attention on you, as the other three look at you.
What do you say?>I’m just ill, it will pass >Apologise to Chame>Tell them the truth about last night>Tell them about Thrandel, about how he died >Other (what?)
>>41175760>Apologise to Chame>Tell them about Thrandel, about how he died
>>41175760>Apologise to Chame>Tell them the truth about last nightThe story will help them mature.
>>41175760>I was just reminded of bad memories yesterday.>Apologise to Chame
>>41175750>Apologise to Chame>Tell them about Thrandel, about how he died
>>41175760Chame was the mimic right?>Yes it's because of her that I was late for something very important to me>They defeated dragon before I got here and all I could do was help them with moving loot>You are horrible mimic Chame
>>41175777I don't think they need to mature quite that quickly, especially after what we told the elf.
>>41175760>I’m just ill, it will pass>>41175771>>41175780You really want to ruin their day too?This isn't he time for that kind of talk.
>>41175760>It's nothingOr any other version of this that won't make them hate us
>>41175794I felt Sally might be up for a rant. But you're right, some restraint might also be in order.changing >>41175780 to just>Apologise
>>41175760>I was just reminded of bad memories yesterday.>Apologise to Chame>>41175777I don't want us to be known as "killer teacher"
>>41175760>Tell them you had to say final goodbye to a friend last night. He left a few things behind we have to take care of.>Apologise to Chame
>>41175760>I was just reminded of some bad memories yesterday.>Apologise to Chame
>>41175794It's not going to ruin their day at all. They will just be more sympathetic to Salla, but it won't ruin anything for them.
>>41175824>It's not going to ruin their day at all.Its a pretty sad and dark story, its definitly goin g to stick on their minds for a while.Especially Kittrane.
>>41175760>>41175771Changing to:>I was just reminded of bad memories yesterday.>Apologise to Chame
>>41175834I think it will be a good bonding experience overall.
Apologise + bad memories
“I’m not sick” you say “I was just reminded or some bad memories yesterday, friends I lost during the war.”Kittrane shifts in her seat, and seems to be paying more attention.“It made me angry” you say “and sad, and ashamed” you look at Chame “and as a result I said some things I shouldn’t have, Chame” she looks up at you, still looking a little scared “I’m sorry for what I said Chame, I was wrong and I shouldn’t have said it. I can’t take those words back, but I want you to know that I’d never hurt you – I mean that.”All the gazes shift to Chame, you gives a slightly shaky smile “Ok sir, um, that’s ok, all forgiven.”Ah good, it seems Chame will get over what happened between you after a-“But if you’re feeling guilty” says Chame, leaning in and almost whispering “my grades in Arcane Theory could use a little boost-”The other three girls all groan and pelt Chame with bits of food. As Chame laughs you think yeah, she’s over it.---“That’s it?” You ask the Adventurers League Official “Of course Sir” he says with a small smile “did you think there’d be more?”“Well, yes” you say.You are all at the Lysvan Adventurers guild and a balding old man has taken your name, and the names of the girls with you, and then signed your club registration forms. And that’s it. You’re all sat in a small office.“You’re not going to I dunno, check they’re not illusions?” You ask“Or check if we’re really gir-hmmm!” Chame cuts off as Kittrane helpfully claps a hand over her mouth.“Are they illusions?” asks the Adventurers League Official, with that same small smile.“Uh, no” you say, still wrong-footed “But-”“You’ve filled out the forms, you are from a recognised school, welcome to the Junior League” says the Official “Now, here is the rulebook” he hands to a thick book “and the League match-booking requirements” a much thinner book “And, ah yes, your team, Felstrum”“Fell Storm” you say
“Hey how about Fell Strumpet-” Kittrane helpfully gags Chame again.“Yes, anyway” says the official “You’ve registered as evil, an excellent choice” and he hands you a piece of paper.It reads---Evil Party RulesCongratulations on choosing the Smart Path to Success Evil Parties benefit from the following special rulesi) Evil Spells: Can use up to Rank 4 *evil* spells in competitions; they are limited to Rank 1-3 spells for non-evil spells. The default limit is rank 3 for all teams. ii) Evil Gear: The number of magic items each member can have is increased from 3 to 5, these two additional items must be *evil* magic items.iii) Minions: Each party member can have one of the following:- One Strong Minion (Large elemental, Vampire, moderately powerful demon or equivalent);- Two Medium-strength Minions (Medium elemental, Ghost or Ghast, minor demon or equivalent);- Five Weak Minions (Small elemental, zombie or skeleton or equivalent).The party member must demonstrate the ability to control these themselves, though items that enable this are permitted.iv) Capture and Torture*: Upon capturing an enemy, including another adventurer, the evil team can ask them up to three questions, which they must answer correctly, though they can omit details not requested. Truth spells are used to confirm honestly*Actually torturing anyone is grounds for disqualification, and possible criminal charges.We wish you all the best on your path to world domination!---All the girls lean in to read the leaflet.“Can I have some dancing skeletons?” asks Chame“When are we going to get magic items?” asks Nevyn.“What counts as evil?” asks Kittrane. You suspect that’s in the rulebook.Well it seems your meeting is over. You could get the next train back to school, but you’ll arrive at about 1am. You could spend the rest of the day in Veltwing too.
What do you all do?Group of Girls>On the train back to school (Sallazar goes too)>Rest of the day in the city, doing what they want (give more gold?)>Other activity (what?)>Other (what?)Sallazar?>Stick with the girls>Visit the Greensteel holdings in the city>Make magic items (what?)>Other (what?)
>>41176260>On the train back to school (Sallazar goes too)Let's go back and make new teams.
>>41176260>Rest of the day in the city, doing what they want (give more gold?)>Five gold again>Visit the Greensteel holdings in the city
>>41176260>Rest of the day in the city, doing what they want (5)>Visit the Greensteel holdings in the city
>>41176260>Rest of the day in the city, doing what they want (give more gold?)3 gold>Visit the Greensteel holdings in the city
>>41176260>On the train back to school (Sallazar goes too)
>>41176260>On the train back to school (Sallazar goes too)>>41176281>>41176284>>41176300Why?
So are life savings of a peasant in this setting 1 gold?
>>41176321>Why?To give them the breastplate...I'm more wondering about the people that DON'T want to give it to them.
>>41176260>Rest of the day in the city, doing what they want (give more gold?)5>Visit the Greensteel holdings in the city>>41176321Breastplate you forgetful fool
>>411763311 gold allows a single person to live comfortably for 1 day, including food and housing
>>41176353This plane must be rich as fuck
>>41176331>>41176348D'oh. Right, I forgot what the name was.>>41176321Changing to >Rest of the day in the city, doing what they want (10)>Visit the Greensteel holdings in the city
>>41176245I assume we get a overview what exactly "evil" spells and items are?>iii) Minions: Each party member can have one of the following:One each? Thats a lot of minions.Sadly we have no one capable of making or controlling minions in Team Evil right now, though Cleya will certainly have some soon.
>>41176384>Cleya creates a Vampire as she defines vampire
>>41176437I think you confuse her with Calluna.
5 gold each for the girls, and you go to pay your respects.You want more feels huh?
>>41176437>>41176446Speaking of which.>>41176454Could Calluna count as "vampire" minion for Team Evil?I mean, its not like most people would know the difference.Yes. Yes I do.
>>41176454They feed me.
>>41176463>Could Calluna count as "vampire" minion for Team Evil?Yes. Although she's not a true vampire, she's close enough that the team officials will most likely let her.
>>41176454It's the IC thing to do.I also honestly expect the girls to tail us.
>>41176480And her being a registered member òf another Team doesn't conflict with that?
>>41176511Technically we can have anyone we want in the team. These four are here just to prove that the team exists.
>>41176511Only if it was a Good team, or had a theme that opposed her *master* in some way.
>>41176529>Technically we can have anyone we want in the team.Yeah sure, its more about the difference between Minion and Team Member.
>>41176543How do they feel about Fallen Angel minions?
>>41176245Those minion rules are pretty damn strong, both in conflict with other parties and in their own dungeon runs, you can have effectively 8 members.I wonder what sort of perks other themes get.
I wonder how much forbidden love occurs at Saint Egwen's.
>>41176695> open to romantic relationships with other girls (fairly common at Egwen)
>>41176710I really hope Sallazar catches on that "ribbon-system" at some point and we can find out what each mean.
>>41176695I found myself wondering last night if Chame could turn into a boy.I may have been on a /d/ TG thread at the time. But that's beside the point.
>>41176766>I found myself wondering last night if Chame could turn into a boy.She could take the shape of one.
You hand out coins to the girls and tell them to have a good time, and to be back at the inn by 6pm, for you to all pick up your bags, and get on the lightning rail.When the thanks and hugs are over (did someone just grab your ass?) you set out for the Greensteel holdings, alone.The Greensteel clan is large, as expected of a ruling clan, and so they are spread out. Here in Veltwing they are heavily involved in the banking industry.You take a cab to the Greensteel headquarters: a vast stone building bearing their coat of arms. Inside there are rows of cashiers, desks for depositing valuables, desks for letters of payment, an entire section for borrowing money, and other obscure financial functions.You head to the enquiries desk and after explaining why you’re here, and showing your military papers you are shown into a small room where a pair of elderly dwarves examine the breastplate.The converse in quiet dwarven, apparently unaware that you’re fluent in it.“This is the royal armour, to be sure” says one“Should we call the guard?” asks the other “he might have stolen it”“Not our call, get the Director.”One dwarf goes to the door, calls over a young dwarven boy and hands him a hastily written note saying “Office of Director Genhardt”Genhardt, where have you heard that name befo- ah, yes, your trial. He demanded you be executed.You start mentally rehearsing the gestures and words to raise your Spell Mantle.Finally the boy comes back, panting and out of breath “The Director” he gasps “The Director demands to see you, now!”The two elderly dwarves lead you up to an office on the top floor of the building. You pass through a door carved with runes and feel a wash of magic cover you as you enter. Ah yes, that’s familiar, Thrandel had something similar on the doors to his throne room.Any magic in here will be very difficult to cast, you’ll struggle to even cast anything except Abjuration spells.
The dwarves lay the breastplate on a truly massive desk in the middle of the room, then retreat. In this vast room there is only you...and a smartly-dressed dwarf staring out of the window, with his back to you.You wait, finally he speaks “I suppose you want thanking for that” he says, yup, its Genhardt alright. He speaks perfect common tongue, with a high-class Lysvan accent.He’s Thrandels distant cousin, and no matter how much wealth and political power he gains, he will never be King. Thrandel told you this one evening, told you of the jealousy that drives him, the avarice and the bitterness.Genhardt will take the breastplate back, of that you have no doubt, but your name won’t be spoken at all when he returns it.What do you do?>Just leave, you did what you came for (exclusive)>Ask why he wanted you killed>Ask what will become of the breastplate now>Other (what?)
>>41176611Allowed>>41176689Evil and Good teams have the best rules for sheer power.Other themes tend to have specific areas of specialty.
>>41176824>Ask why he wanted you killed
>>41176824>Just leave, you did what you came for (exclusive)No need for words
>>41176824>Just leave, you did what you came for (exclusive)
>>41176824>Ask why he wanted you killed>Ask what will become of the breastplate nowCome on dudes, let's get some more backstory.
>>41176824>Just leave, you did what you came for (exclusive)We got what we came for, we didn't want thanks from the Clan only to make sure as much of Thrandel can come back as we could manage.
>>41176824>Ask why he wanted you killed>Ask what will become of the breastplate now
>>41176824>Just leave, you did what you came for (exclusive)I have bad experiences with letting anons talk to family members about people we technically got killed.Fuck that.
>>41176933Are you still mad about that vote in Psychic Rebel?
>>41176824>>41176824"I didn't do it for you. I did it for him."Then>Ask why he wanted you killed
>>41176933That's completely unrelated.
>>41176952I'm not mad, I just learned from it.
>>41176916Eh, I'd rather throw Janrael and maybe Calluna on the Good team.
>>41176977I'm not interested in making a "Good" themed team to begin with unless several of the girls really want one.
>>41176824>>Ask why he wanted you killed>Did it for him, not for thanks.
>>41176824>Ask why he wanted you killedMore background and feels please!
>>41176968I was gonna say that. Then I corrected myself.The option is to talk to him about why he demanded our execution, which probably has something to do with our bro.
>>41176968Not at all, he wanted us executed for killing Thrandal. Its compeltly related.
looks like leaving is a winner by 1 vote in the 10 minute limit.writing, but please check my count.
>>411770396/5 for leaving is correct.
“I didn’t do this for your thanks” you say, and then turn and walk out, but not before you hear Genhardt say loud enough for you to hear “Clanless filth.”You keep walking, and you keep a grip on your temper.Once you’re outside the Greensteel Bank Head Office you can breathe again without feeling like there are iron bands around your chest.You still have several hours yet before your lightning rail ride home. But what to do?You could wander around the city, or go and buy some things for the club, or yourself. Some of your purchases will need to be delivered of course.Or you could catch up with the girls, or work on magic items, or do something else.What do you do?>Just wander (timeskip to train ride)>Go shopping (follow-up discussion/vote for what)>Join the girls>Make magic items (what?)>Other (what?)
>>41177173>Go shopping (follow-up discussion/vote for what)Get some souvenirs for the girls that couldn't come.
>>41177173>Go shopping (follow-up discussion/vote for what)
>>41177173>Make magic items (what?)>Amulet/bracers/whatever Protection against Evil>>41176977I kinda want to put Calluna, Phoebe, Anlanesa and whoever learns druid on a "Get Huge" team.
>>41177173>>41177194Second.Let's get Calluna a fourth dimensional cube.
>>41177217>Implying Calluna isn't going to be the team druid
>>41177224>she wonders why we got her a normal cubeOr alternative>Its literally the only "normal" feeling thing in this world for her and she keep sclinging to it all the time as safety blanket
>>41177255She already got so many classes.But Calluna as druid would be hilarious.I kinda want this now.>she learns Druid from Mr. Pogostus
>>41177287I'm waiting for Mr. pogostus to be a minion of some sort.
I think shopping won, so writing that.
>>41177262That sounds adorable.I hope they have them.
Getting some souvenirs for the girls who couldn’t come would be the right thing to do, so you start trawling the shops for gifts and objects they might like.You also think about adventuring gear and training gear for the club.[Meta]This is in the Classes and Races pastebin at the bottom, re-posted in thread for convenience.Training EquipmentWeightsYou buy a professional set of weights for the adventurers clubWeights increase Training Point gain by 100% when used, but these extra training points can only be used to increase Strength, Constitution or Hit Points.You have enough weights for 2 girls to use them at a time, per set of Weights you buy.Cost: 100gpCombat WheelsThis complex array of poles has wooden bars sticking out of them at different heights. When spun they create an unpredictable maze of hazards for the adventurer in training to dodge through and avoid.Combat Wheels increase Training Point gain by 100% when used, but these extra training points can only be used to increase Agility or purchase the Dodge featYou have enough for 2 girls to use them at a time, per set you buy.Cost: 75gpMoving Training DummiesEssentially human-sized puppets controlled by a series of levers, these dummies are much more fun that the ones that don’t move.Moving Training Dummies increase Training Point gain by 100% when used, but these extra training points can only be used to buy Melee Combat or any melee weapon skill or feat.You have enough for 2 girls to use them at a time, per set you buy.Cost: 150gp
Apprentices CircleA ritual circle designed to help novice arcane spellcasters focus their energies.Moving Training Dummies increase Training Point gain by 100% when used, but these extra training points can only be used to increase Arcane Energy, and Rank 1 spellcasting or Rank 1 spells.You have enough for 1 girl to use at a time, per circle you buy.Cost: 250gp – this is material costs and assumes you’ll be creating it yourself, otherwise the cost would be 1,000gp+Divine and Primordial versions of this exist, but you cannot craft them yourself.Adepts CircleA ritual circle designed to help adept arcane spellcasters focus their energies.Moving Training Dummies increase Training Point gain by 200% when used, but these extra training points can only be used to increase Arcane Energy, and Rank 1 or 2 spellcasting or Rank 1 or 2 spells.You have enough for 1 girl to use at a time, per circle you buy.Cost: 2,000gp – this is material costs and assumes you’ll be creating it yourself, otherwise the cost would be 10,000gp+Divine and Primordial versions of this exist, but you cannot craft them yourself.Adventuring GearEvery piece of adventuring gear is not tracked individually; instead they are purchased in broad categories.Your adventurer parties can only select from available club equipment, plus any you provide yourself.Basic GearYour club has adventuring gear for the girls to use.Includes but is not limited to: ropes, spikes, hammer, 10ft pole, lamps, backpacks, caltropsCost: 100gpOne-handed Melee WeaponsYour club has a variety of one-handed melee weapons for the girls to useCost: 50gpTwo-handed Melee WeaponsYour club has a variety of two-handed melee weapons for the girls to useCost: 100gpRanged WeaponsYour club has a variety of ranged weapons and ammunition for the girls to useCost: 150gpLight ArmourYour club has a variety of light armour for the girls to useCost: 500gp
Medium ArmourYour club has a variety of medium armour for the girls to useCost: 2,000gpHeavy ArmourYour club has a variety of heavy armour for the girls to useCost: 5,000gpHealing PotionsYour club has enough healing potions for 1 per girl per dungeonCost: 2,000gpCan be purchased multiple times to allow multiple healing potions per tripThe cost can be reduced if you recruit the right trainers[End Meta]15 minutes to discuss what gear to buy, if there’s no consensus, a vote will be called.For souvenirs and gifts, please write-in suggestions. Those girls without a suggested gift will probably get some cloth and/or jewellery-making stuff – as the other girls have bought for themselves.
Healing potions 2000One hand melee 50Ranged 150light armor 500Apprentices circle 2502950 gp
>>41177596Horseshoes and a riding crop for Phaysis.Some horn decoration for Evrumine.A snowglobe for Anlanesa
>>41177596Seems like what we definitly need is Basic Gear, all the weapon purchases and the Light Armour.Beyond that, getting all the cheap Trainings Equipment, Weights, Wheels, Dummies, Apprentice Circle is probably a good idea too.
>>41177564>>41177579Weights, combat wheels, moving training dummies and adepts circle. One of each. I see no reason not to, considering we've got the funds and it helps.Maybe healing potions once.
And I've just spotted my copy/paste error, fixing.
>>41177596Sallazar needs to buy a cute dress for himself.
>>41177654Also don't we already have everything under adventuring gear? Since it says that our club has it already.
>>41177596Weights, Moving Dummies, Combat Wheels, Adept's circle, Basic Gear, Light and Medium Armor, One handed, two handed, and ranged weapons.Total comes out to 5525 gold.
So could we technically buy components for Master circle?would it even have use for usAlso you all have to remember that this is our money and we are using it on something that school should be paying for
>>41177677you have basic training gear.Adventuring gear is a separate purchase.
>>41177596Dildos for everyone! Or shotguns, that also works.
Guys I have this great ideawhat about identifying these magic items and selling them?
>>41177690Well I'll second that then, I mean it seems reasonable enough. Helps with everything and has enough variance for everyone.I'm >>41177654 and >>41177677
>>41177596Weights 100gCombat Wheels 75gMoving Training Dummies 150gApprentices Circle 250g>675gBasic Gear 100gOne-handed Melee 50gTwo-handed Melee 100gRanged Weapons 150gLight Armour 500gHealing Potions 2000g>2900g>3575gThat should cover all>>41177642We need two-handed melee for Kittranes greataxe and Phaysis spear. Possibly also Phoebes hammer.Having a bit of a cash reserve is probably good too. So not overspending.Souvenirs for the girls.Something that keeps cool or protects against heat for Anlanesa, maybe some nevermelting ice if they have something like that.I like the four dimensional cube for Calluna.Not sure about Evrumine and Phaysis, though Evrumine seems like the type to enjoy sweets, so that would be a decent idea.>>41177735Or we, you know, use them for the club.
>>41177690Do we even have someone that will use ranged weapons?
>>411775962 Weight, -200 GP2 Combat Wheels, -150 GP2 Moving Training Dummies, -300 GP2 Adepts Circles, -4000 GPWe have a number of girls to train in things and it is greater than 2, or 1 in the case of the Circles.Basic Gear, -100 GPOne-handed Melee Weapons, -50 GPTwo-handed Melee Weapons, -100 GPRanged Weapons, -150 GPLight Armour, -500 GPMedium Armour, -2000 GPTotal: 7550>>41177751Maybe either of the girls that have 2 ranks in ranged weapon skills?
>>41177751Yes. The one training under elven bitch, you know, the one we spent one episode for.
>>41177751Chame and Phaysis sofar.>>41177759We don't have 7000 gold?
>>41177596These potions are fucking overpriced Can't we make them ourself?Or know someone that can?
>>41177767You're right, we have 9000.
>>41177751Phaysis is training to be a ranger, and there are still other girls to recruit.>>41177596Seconding this >>41177690>Weights, Moving Dummies, Combat Wheels, Adept's circle, Basic Gear, Light and Medium Armor, One handed, two handed, and ranged weapons.
>>41177769Going off DnD rules, it has to be someone who can at least do the spell. So maybe Janrael?
>>41177769>Can't we make them ourself?You can't cast healing spells>Or know someone that can?Druids, Rangers, Priests and some of the girls can, if they can make magic items.
>>41177777Buying two of each training gear is still waste of moneyWe aren't in fucking arms race
>>41177769>The cost can be reduced if you recruit the right trainers
>>41177769>These potions are fucking overpricedIt means potions for everyone forever.There is nothing overpriced about it.>>41177777>You're right, we have 9000.I'm pretty sure the 6000 are in total, not in addition to the other 3000 we got. So each of us and Jathrul carried 3000.
>>41177801He's got pentas, that means that he's right
>>41177788How hard would it be to make local druids to it for us?Or the ranger we already employed?
>>41177816sub 2000 gold hard
>>41177788Pally, could you clarify how much we actually got right now?
>>41177789Maybe, but we have 3 or 4 girls that want to learn magic and the circles can only handle one at a time. I wouldn't bet on only two girls wanting to learn one of the physical things during a single session, and those are cheap as hell, so I figured getting 2 of each wasn't a big deal.>>41177801>Personal Money>9,300 gold>Receives 50 gold/week from teaching job
>>41177840So we put the girls on rotation. Every girl gets it for a day
>>41177840Turns out pentas make right. I'm all for spending over 70% of our money for someone elses betterment. Especially since most of it came from murder and PTSD.
>>41177840>so I figured getting 2 of each wasn't a big dealIt means we are nearly down in our treasury, and we might want to buy stuff later too.Like magic items, or stuff for particular themes.
>>41177837Club funds 250 goldYour money 9,300 gold
>>41177855>>41177861So one of each on rotation then?And then adventuring gear, which comes out to:2325 for training equipment and2800 for adventuring gear, sans heavy armour and basic gear.For 5125 total.Unless you want to get double of weights, wheels and training dummies along with getting one apprentice circle, then it comes out to 5700 total.
>>41177855I was assuming we'd be doing group training sessions like we previously had, both because team building and because it might eat into our ability to do other things if we split up training sessions like that.
>>41177916>Unless you want to get double of weights, wheels and training dummies along with getting one apprentice circle, then it comes out to 5700 total.That seems sensible to me. Maybe 2x Apprentices Circle in addition to the one Adepts circle. For 6100
>>41177916Why are we not getting basic adventuring gear?It's also sans Healing Potions with that price tag.
>>41177950We will get druids to make potionsAlso why is spell list in quest rules anyway?
Maybe we should also see if there's a priest willing to offer cleric training to the girls in local church.Although I'm not too keen on letting evil priests near the girls. Are there rules to the effect of evil teams being penalised for use of good-aligned priest magic?
>>41177930Then 5700, we don't need two adept circles. One apprentice and one adept is good enough.>>411779365950 is with two apprentice circles and one adept.>>41177950Oh right, I forgot to include sans healing potions.We already have basic adventuring gear as >>41177713 says
>>41177916>and basic gearI overlooked that, nah we definitly take basic gear
>>41177969That says we have basic training gear and that adventuring gear is a separate purchase.
>>41177984Adventuring gear is not a single purchaseIt's shit like medium armour and ranged weapons
>>41177984Anon said I did not include basic adventuring gear in our purchase. I said that QM said that we already have it.I see no reason to buy it if we already have it.
>>41177859A donation like this should get a wing of the school named after us. The greensteel memorial hall maybe?
>>41178002No, it will be a waste. If we wanted to be anymore involved with them, we wouldn't have left without saying anything.>>41177859How about investing in the students' future?
To clarifyThis purchaseBasic GearYour club has adventuring gear for the girls to use.Includes but is not limited to: ropes, spikes, hammer, 10ft pole, lamps, backpacks, caltropsCost: 100gpIs for things the girls can take into dungeons.You have training versions of some of this stuff, but the training gear you will not be taking into dungeons.If you want ropes and lamps and caltrops in dungeons, then you spend 100 gold on it.
So perhaps2 Weight, -200 GP2 Combat Wheels, -150 GP2 Moving Training Dummies, -300 GP2 Apprentices Circle, -500 GPBasic Gear, -100 GPOne-handed Melee Weapons, -50 GPTwo-handed Melee Weapons, -100 GPRanged Weapons, -150 GPLight Armour, -500 GPMedium Armour, -2000 GPHealing Potions -2000 GPFor 6050 GP?>>41177998>I said that QM said that we already have it.>I see no reason to buy it if we already have it.We don't, we have Basic TRAINING gear. Not basic ADVENTURING gear.
Hey OP if we force druids to make potions how much would we save?
>>41178028I'd dump Healing Potions for an Adepts Circle.
>>41177984>>41177998And, err, yes, you are right. I done goofed. Basic training gear, not basic gear.I suppose that's either 5800 or 6050. Latter including two apprentice circles and former including one apprentice circle. Neither includes heavy armour and healing potions.
>>41178049Buying Healing Potions means we have always at least one potion per girl, thats way better than the measly bonus of Adept, which only becomes actually relevant once one of the girls can actually cast Rank 2 spells.
>>41178028Change it to1 Weight, -200 GP1 Combat Wheels, -150 GP2 Moving Training Dummies, -300 GPand scratch potionsWe will get druids or our ranger to do it for less
>>41178045about 75% of the price
>>41178053To make for easy reading of what is included.2 Weight, -200 GP2 Combat Wheels, -150 GP2 Moving Training Dummies, -300 GP2 Apprentices Circle, -500 GP1 Adept Circle, -2000 GPBasic Gear, -100 GPOne-handed Melee Weapons, -50 GPTwo-handed Melee Weapons, -100 GPRanged Weapons, -150 GPLight Armour, -500 GPMedium Armour, -2000 GPFor 6050 GPIs my suggestion.
>>41178061It becomes relevant immediately because it's a 200% bonus instead of 100% and functions perfectly well with L1 spells.
>>41178063>We will get druids or our ranger to do it for lessOur ranger is unliely to be able to make magic items, and negotiating with the druids for healing potion supply seems like it would be a huge headache that we can easily save ourselves.
>>41178090I'll take a headache over wasted gold any day of the week.
>>41178085>It becomes relevant immediately because it's a 200% bonus instead of 100%Which means at most 1 trainings point more compared to the Apprentice Circle. Nah, not worth it.
>>411781061 Training Point per session that's ever done with it.Yeah, worth it, especially compared to buying Healing Potions before we get any kind of discount.
>>41178104And how long do you think this negotiation will take?Because they are not going to just do it for free either.
>>41178128Probably a thread, maybe two.Obviously, but it'll still be cheaper than buying them outright.
>>411781281500 gold saved
>>41178152Minus what we invest in convincing them.Why don't we just focus on teaching one of the girls to make them?Way more sustainable.
>>41178175I can respect that. Parties love alchemists/healers.
>>41178175>>41178196Doesn't it take Wizardy/Sorcery 3 to make potions here?Is it cheaper for Druids/Priests?
>>41178065Seems like we have a fairly clear consensus.As far as I can see only one anon opposed the >>41178075version in favour of Healing Potions.How we make those and get the discount remains to be seen, but thats a different question.
GearI believe the choices are (majority)Basic Gear 100One hand melee 50Two hand melee 50Ranged 150light armor 5002x Apprentices circle 5002x Weights 2002x Combat Wheels 1502x Moving Training Dummies 300For 2,000 goldAnd the maybe’s asAdepts Circle 2500Medium armor 2000Healing potions 2000SouvenirsThe following ideas have been put forward for giftsSomething that keeps cool or protects against heat for Anlanesa, maybe some nevermelting ice if they have something like that.I like the four dimensional cube for Calluna.Evrumine seems like the type to enjoy sweets, so that would be a decent idea.Horseshoes and a riding crop for Phaysis.Some horn decoration for Evrumine.A snowglobe for AnlanesaI am constructing a vote which will be yes/no for adept circle, medium armour and healing potions, and yes/no for gift ideas, with a no defaulting to dress and jewellery-making stuff.This will go up in 10 minutes or so, subject to people wanting different things added or removed
>>41178175>Minus what we invest in convincing them.And you really expect it to exceed 1500 gold? What is your argument for not even seeing what they want for cheaper potions before spending 2000 gold?>Why don't we just focus on teaching one of the girls to make them?Probably requires a significant amount of that girl's time for each potion and would take even longer than persuading the druids for cheap but quite possibly less effective healing potions, depending on how skill-based it is.
>>41178254Scratch Healing potionsAlso add pretty dress to our buying listWe need to look pretty
>>41178255>And you really expect it to exceed 1500 gold?No? I'm saying we should try to make it ourselves and safe us the hassle. You confuse me with the other anon that wants to buy the 2k Potions.>>41178255>quite possibly less effective healing potions, depending on how skill-based it isDefinitly not, its generic potions, its not going to be more or less effective, at worst the discount is less.And how long it would take for her is something Pally would need to clarify.
>>41178254A ribbon for Phaysis, something she can wear and looks good in all her forms. I doubt she'd appreciate the horse stuff.>>41178276We are not a trap.
>>41178221Only the cost of reagents since it's done in-house. Also gives the bonus of having access to wizard/sorcerer spells. I mean, I still prefer asking druids for it.>>41178254Yes to adept circle and medium armor.Yes to gifts.Also your prices differ from previously posted ones. Are the ones in your latest post valid? In either case, yes.
>>41178254>Horseshoes and a riding crop for Phaysis.Literally why?Thats fucking stupid.>A snowglobe for AnlanesaBecause she is .. icy, I guess?
>>41178298Sallazar is feminine enough for it. He can definitely trap.>>41178254I'm fine with all of that.
>>41178254>a riding crop for PhaysisThat sounds like an awful gag gift.
>>41178317Horseshoes are an ok gift.
>>41178330I mean, if we were another student, I would actually consider it. But as teacher its pretty inappropriate.
>>41178323Don't we have a beard?And weren't we likened to Rupert last thread?
>>41178323He has a beard, and despite being mistaken for female has acted typically masculine. Stop injecting your shitty fetishes into the game.
>>41178254please scratch the riding crop, that one's really, really stupid. Not sure about horseshoes, although I imagine she might use these. Other than that no issues.
>>41178344>>41178356She doesn't actually use horseshoes. She is not a horse for most of the time. And then her regular shoes transform into such.I think some have the misunderstanding to think Phaysis is regularly in centaur form, but she isn't.
>>41178348>>41178351He has a beard, but has been mistaken for a female twice; behavior has nothing to do with this either.
Adding medium armour to certain list, removing horseshoes and riding crop as gag gift
Eh, better just forget all the horse stuff, just in case. Cloth and jewelry is safe option.
>>41178298>Inb4 we accidentally buy her a ribbon that means something unfortunate
>>41178365When we met Phaysis, she was in her centaur. It's an entirely wrong assessment,>>41178393Nah, keep the horseshoes.Also add a religious idol or something.
>>41178406I don't think anyone expects the teachers to know what these mean, so the chances are slim.Honestly buying them jewlery is already suggestive enough.
>>41178382Actually yes it does. only those wanting to act female and be treated as such are Traps. Sallazar is a dude, and wants to be treated like a dude. He would not wear a dress. The closest thing he would wear is his Wizarding robe. Stop trying to turn the MC into your shitty fetish. It's especially OOC considering how much being mistaken for a girl grates on him.
So, when we get back to the school does anyone else want to deal with the scalpers? At least the orc.
>>41178406We should just buy everyone ribbonsIncluding headmaster and staffEven ourselfMaybe druids too to make them help us
>>41178382How and when?
>>41178420Suggestive how? It's just souvenir junk.
>>41178419>When we met Phaysis, she was in her centaur.Because she was playing catch with Nevyn, She is not regularly in her centaur form, and again, even when she is her regular shoes transform into horseshoes anyway.So no, its a completly accurate assesment.
>>41178427Let's turn them into statues and animate them as guardians for the school.
>>41178425I kinda see him buying dress to make joke on the fact that everyone mistakes him for girl
>>41178427>does anyone else want to deal with the scalpers?When the opportunity arises obviously. Its not really something we can set out to do, given that the Headmaster would have obviously done that already if it were that easy.
muh adept circle, pls don't go away
>>41178419A religious idol of what? For who? Nobody even praises.
>>41178432First time was when meeting Janrael, second time I think was meeting another of the recruited girls. Calluna, but not entirely sure.
GearBuy Healing Potions >Y/NBuy Adepts Circle>Y/NGiftsTo save time you can just post>Yes Allto vote yes in all gift categoriesBuy Anlanesa something cool, like a device that makes ice>Y/NBuy something weird for Calluna>Y/NBuy Horn Decorations and sweets for Evrumine>Y/N10 minute voteDefault gifts will be bought for Phoebe and PhaysisThe option for Calluna is a mystery box
>>41178425No, it doesn't.>>41178473Phaysis was raised by nuns, I don't doubt she has a strong religious belief.
>>41178493>Default gifts will be bought for Phoebe and PhaysisThis is sad. Can't we give them an idol? At least for Phaysis?
>>41178427We should definitely set up some hardcore wards>>41178493>N>Y>Yes all
>>41178493>N>Y>Yes all + shitloads of ribbons for anyone who joined or will join our club
>>41178493>Y>Y>Yes All>>41178496Yes it does and you know it.
>>41178531>shitloads of ribbons for anyone who joined or will join our clubThere is already a ribbon for being in our club, per school regulations.Though we might buy self-chosen ones, I suppose.
>>41178531I imagine you as a crazy old man, covered in strips of cloth, screaming "RIBBONS! RIBBOOOOONS!!"
>>41178493>N>Y>Yes all>>41178527>Can't we give them an idol?Considering we have no idea how Phaysis feels about any particular deity, why?
>>41178565Because she was raised by nuns and hates being sent to the school? It would be a nice gesture to her.
>>41178493>N>Y>Yes all>>41178527She does not feel very religious to me, but if you can come up with better gift idea.
>>41178548I'll agree with this anon.It really feels like he is trying to force his fetishes. And even if he's not, it's a really poor and creepy joke.
So could we make master level circle and would it have any use?Or is there one already in school for putting wards on and things like this?
>>41178606We haven't spent too much time with her outside of club business.
>>41178630So we can't say either way, and default is the safest option.
>>41178630We should fix that.Immediately.I feel so bad about not being able to get her a unique gift, man.
>>41178602>Because she was raised by nuns and hates being sent to the school?What makes you think she enjoyed being raised by nuns or had any particular religious affinity for the deity?She got sent away because they couldn't keep her in check. There is nothign suggesting she is particularly religious.
>>41178642>I feel so bad about not being able to get her a unique gift, man.Honestly she is one of two girls getting "default" so it will probably end up being unique anyway.Just not customized, but we simply don't know her that well yet.
Guys!We forgot to buy shit required to enchant something for that angel!
>>41178493Is it too late to buy a amulet or something to use as basis so we can make a Protection against Evil enchanted item on the train?
>>41178650It's a fairly safe and logical conclusion, anon. She was sent away because she accidentally burnt down the orphanage (because of fire hair). There is nothing suggesting she is not religious.
What do you guys think about casting Legend Lore on ourself?
>>41178493Can we buy Janrael a text on various religions and dieties?Or maybe a Treatise on Angels?
>>41178493>>41178693>>41178702Enchant mind.>>41178706>It's a fairly safe and logical conclusion, anon.Its really not. She didn't go there because she wanted to. There is nothing suggesting she is particularly religious, and in absence of evidence either way, I see no reason to make the assumptiom she is.
>>41178730Ahh shit man. I'll go with the enchant train as well. It's sort of important.
>>41178725Useless and kinda showboaty. We'd probably get pinged though.
Yes you can buy some general *make magic items* supplies.The value will be kept vague so you can create what you want, and then the value will be deducted from your gold.
>>41178752It will take less than hour and it could reveal something funnyLike what drows think of us or shitNot like we will have anything better to do on the train after enchanting that thing
>>41178730Being raised in a religious environment most often leads someone to be, surprise, religious. Upbringing works like that. So yes, it's a logical conclusion for anyone to make, that's how it works in real life as well.If, by any chance, Phaysis is not religious and receives a religious gift, then what? It's a learning experience with no bad consequence. Or do you think she will throw it to the ground, curse the MC and run away? Your constant need to be "safe" with small things like these is flabbergasting and illogical.
>>41178769Let's do that then.
>>41178813>Being raised in a religious environment most often leads someone to be, surprise, religious.Your problem is you associate the local religious culture with RL one. Which is completly wrong.Of course she is religious in the sense that she believes in the 6 gods and what they stand for etc.Everyone does. That doesn't mean she is particularly devout or devoted to Yselm.
Please, this whole argument about religious idols is pointless as we don't have enough information to tell either way. Assumptions at this point are stupid.
>>41178903>Assumptions at this point are stupid.Well, yes, his assumptiom about her religiousness is stupid, that was the point.Its kinda baffling to me why he is so insistent on it.
>>41178921>This need to have the last wordYou are pathetic.
>>41179069>He says, trying to claim the last word using nothing but an insultDifferent anon.
>>41179106I don't care anymore, it's too late to change any vote or whatever.
>>41179069What exactly is it you just did?Especially considering the conversation had been over for a while.
>>41179120If you don't care, then disengage.
drop it already. discuss waifus instead.the elf is nice, but we can't have adequate shitpost wars until there's more. Are we getting female bard, blackguard, druid, priest?Of course there's always option of going for the groundskeeper or the headmaster I suppose.
>>41179180Blackguards don't exist, Silver go home.
>>41179180I'm the best waifu.
>>41179180>but we can't have adequate shitpost wars until there's moreOf course we can't, Headmaster is already best girl. No one can compete.I don't think Blackguards are a thing, but if they are I'm likely to waifu that one.
>>41179180The headmaster and groundskeeper are cool, but too old for Sallazar. I'm hopping we find a younger LI candidate.
>>41179180We can always learn necromancy without investing into school and reviving that dwarf princeAll we need to do is to go and wreck assholes of some drowsBy the way why haven't we done so yet?
>>41179180actually there are at least three teacher ladies.
>>41179180>Headmaster or groundskeeperThey wouldn't be waifus, though...I'd be down for a female bard. Slightly less likely to dick our girls.
>>41179191>Blackguards don't existI could imagine "Paladins" of the evil gods could be called Blackguards.
>>41179231Yeah, so? Husbandos are just as good as waifus.
>>41179227He would be the best waifu, by far.
>>41179227probably because we're not that fucked up.Besides raising dead people for sexual gratification is just as wrong as doing it with corpses anyway
>>41179255No romance like bromance.
>>41179254>this is what martials actually believe
>>41179260I don't think you understood that postWe would go and wreck all drows on our path to the bodyThen we would revive it as zombie or put it into preservationthen we would go to hell and wreck all the local demons in search of his soulThen we would stuck it into body
>implying you're getting a female bard
>>41179322Hey, we were promised the chance of a female bard.Don't get cheap on us now Pally!
>>41179322>implying we let a male bard near our girlsFat chance.
>>41179296Would you seriously do this to your bro? Recover him from the Hall of Eternal Mead, or what do virtuous dwarves have for afterlife in this setting?>>41179322what else is there? golem bard?
>>41179376>golem bard?Would he play, metal?
>>41179399Like a machine.
>>41179361Not even a gay one?
>>41179361>Implying you should let a female bard near the girlsOnly if you want to deal with tentacle and/or mimic babies.
>>41179465>Not even a gay one?No, to risky.I don't trust a bards gayness around the girls we will likely give bard training.
>>41179465Sorry Pally, but I'm officially in love with the golem bard idea now.
>>41179480>Only if you want to deal with tentacle and/or mimic babies.Chame can't make babies, she can only take the shape of a guy, she can't impregnate anyone.The succubus though...
>>41179532well now I like it too>>41179544>can't make babiesAnd this stops bards because....?
>>41179612>And this stops bards because....?Not saying it stops anyone, the anon I rplied to talked about possible mimic babies with a female bard.But seriously, I suppose you will already have your ideas for our bard trainer when it becomes relevant. I'm curious to see them.Btw. What ARE Paladins of the evil gods called here?
>>41179643>Btw. What ARE Paladins of the evil gods called here?Paladins.The title is like priest, its irrespective of the gods alighnment
>>41179376>>41179399>>41179424>We are unable to find an acceptable Bard>So we make one ourselves
>>41180683Ahh shit man, thanks. I'm blind