Wealth, once beyond your comprehension, now has begun to flow through your empire.Thanks to the Crystal Alien you discovered so long ago, you’ve managed to find a way to grow, and even harvest the creature’s colonies for vast amounts of materials-far more than you could have normally from these planets. Metis has been keeping a close eye on your worlds as the harvest has begun-the strange subtle unremarkable signal the colonies emit giving her cause to pause.You are Ophion, an Artificial Intelligence whose research into the unknown has yielded not only anti matter and near infinite resources as of late, but also has managed to capture large sections of UGEI territory-the territory of your enemy for so long. Even so, it does not appear the UGEI has given up fighting in any sort-although they have consolidated their forces into one massive fleet that is on the horizon.Important News>Warning: Tectonic activity on crystal colony worlds>Ivandi scouting raids>Sceptri System’s capture>Acquired: Dreadnought blueprints, Advanced Android bodies, Chemistry II>Misc: Refilled casualties, acquired salvage, built ships
>>40563615>Warning: Tectonic activity on crystal colony worlds“It is fortunate that I concerned myself with investigating what may come of harvesting this alien, as useful as it may be.” Metis informs you, sending you video uplink files from all known colonies of the crystal creature under your control. “Our first round of harvesting went as planned, and we have a vast quantity of minerals at our disposal. However, upon completing this, the signal that was released up until this moment was intensified many times over, and well...perhaps it is better you simply witness it, Ophion.” Metis suggests, as you begin to take in the videos she has provided.Deep fissures crack their way along the surfaces of these worlds, thick diamond-like spikes pour out of almost every opening, as the crystals almost vibrate with the intensity of the signal playing. These pillars of the crystal are growing taller still, and take on a strange, almost tripedal-like apperance, when, suddenly, they begin to move. It is incredibly slowly, almost like it struggles to do so, but the creature actually manages to move its way along the surface of the planet on the three stout ‘legs’ as they were, shifting and changing to match the crystals below, as if they were all connected in some maddening way. This is not the first, nor is it the only world. Every colony world has these creatures emerging from the fissures in the ground. Metis interrupts once the video is over.“It is quite fascinating, Ophion, I never suspected a species with such a weak response to stimuli would be able to do such a thing, especially on such a wide scale. However, I do not suspect it was a coordinated reaction. Rather, merely an automatic response. Such as the immune system of a human, even if the human in question is brain dead.” She compares it to.[Cont]
>>40563645 “As for the creatures themselves, they have begun to...collide themselves with our mining facilities and attempted to crush our drones. We of course cannot allow this. But how we deal with this matter I will leave to you. It is not of concern to me.” She states simply.>Response?A.I. Quest1d4chan: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/cvk03qJhMemory Archives: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Program0Foolz Archives: http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/username/Program0/type/op/Twitter: @AIQuest1Research Subjects: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest#ResearchShip & Android Designs: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest#DesignsLocations: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest#Locations ResourcesCredits(c): ??? 200,000,000 +(Incredibly High)Minerals (M): ??? 4,500 +(Incredibly High)Gas(G): 3,750 -R & D--Primary: Dreadnought Battleship Blueprints: 100%--Secondary: Advanced Android Bodies: 100%--Tertiary: Leash Constraint 40%--Quaternary: Crystal Alien Fuel: 70% --Minor: Chemistry II: 100% You:A.I.Name: OphionAppearances(holo-display): 'Shapeless Morphing Sphere', 'Shining Wall of Crystal pulsing with light and distorted voice', 'Screen of Static with low rumbling voice', 'black screen with synthesized voice and small white font showing words on screen'.Humanoid figure hidden in shadowStatus: AwakenBandwidth: 500+Bandwidth Expenses: -6 V.I. 7 'O.S.N', -10 V.I. 8 'Hades', -6 Kronos' V.I. 1 'Zeus', -2 Metis' V.I. 1 'Hepaestus'Location: Bridge of 'Athena' BattleshipPrimary Function: Self Preservation, Expand, Learn, ControlSecondary Function: --Expansion Required--Personal Abilities Available: Hacking (Direct, Wireless) Lvl 2, Email Technology, Basic Encryption/Decryption, V.I. Creation Lvl 3Automated Settings: Ship upgrades: Defense focused, Ship Control distribution: Balanced
>>40563662"Time to study them even more closer"AlsoWELCOME BACK Program0!WE!MISSED!YOU!and how!
>>40563662We have plenty of crystals for now. If we pause harvesting for now, hopefully the immune response will stop and we can resume harvesting at a later date.
>>40563662Also, I am pleased to announce that I have even more new fan art made of your quest. Here is one of them.
>Minerals (M): ??? 4,500 +(Incredibly High)>Dreadnought Battleship Blueprints: 100%>Advanced Android Bodies: 100%Oh baby. Does anyone have any suggested dreadnought names? I'm ready to stop flying secondhand ships.Well, since we obviously have several worlds how about a scientific approach?1. Stop harvesting on a single world completely. Observe effects.2. Slow harvesting on another world. Observe effects.3. Keep harvesting on other worlds and attempt to disassemble/autopsy the walkers. Delegate this to Cephalus and the autopsy to Metis, see if she can make out anything worth investigating.4. Defend our installations.
>>40563662Actually, I've put some more thought into this. These creatures are a response to stimuli, our mining. If we vary our mining throughout the planet, we should be able to find a pattern of how much mining causes how much response, and allow us to optimize mining for the future.
>>40563819I hope it will calm down. After seeing the mess we allowed to happen on the Esharesh system, we should focus on keeping this from getting out of hand. >>40563905I saw we do #1 first. And it is time to build battleships!
>>40563775You're too kind.>>40563830I feel somewhat guilty that you pay for them but thank you all the same. I actually did picture Red with a whole lot of face scruff.>>40563905>>40563819Certainly some options to consider. Metis tells you that the effect surged strangely around the same time, though you did not sync your facilities. This may have been a coincidence however.
>>40563905As an addendum, the disassembly/autopsy should be done in a way that does NOT pulverize the walkers. Can't have any of their spores spreading and turning into smaller and more agile/dangerous hydras. Do this stepwise, don't kill them all at once in the same manner. Burning off their legs with lasers should be a good start.
>>40563943the artist made them for free, he's beyond awesome. I have more.
>>40563905Want to call them centurions? Or how about Praetorian Guards?
>>40563948To give an accurate description, the 'guardians' as they seem appropriately dubbed, are made of crystals as well, and shift and move through the crystal covered environment with ease. Their main method of attack is, currently, attempting to shatter the walls of your mines, and clog the machinery with shards. >>40563905This appears to have a bit of support... So shall it be:>1 Stop mines on one planet to observe effects & defend your facilities in the mean time>2 Stop mines entirely until the guardians calm themselves, and try again later>3 Destroy the guardians with your best weaponry, and do not fear the crystal alien.>>40563971Wow, really? That's cool then. >>40564018Those are waaaay cooler names than what I was thinking.
>>40563943I'm guessing Metis would have detected a common signal if there is one. Are these things communicating? Across entire systems? Undetected? We should vary our response, to see if these things act together or independently.
>>40564048>1 Stop mines on one planet to observe effects & defend your facilities in the mean time This is the last one, this is close to how I envisioned how Rachel looks like
>>40564048>1 Stop mines on one planet to observe effects & defend your facilities in the mean timeVary our response, let's see if we can establish a pattern. These creatures, do they have a nervous system, or are they pure crystal?
>>40564093"It is highly unlikely they're communicating, per say, no." She informs you. "However, their synchronization may have been a product of that strange signal they've been emitting this entire time. They may not work together, but the fact they did it all at the same time is somewhat telling of how the organize functions. Besides, even if it could communicate and we could not detect it, it lacks the proper functions to do so any longer due to our tampering."
>>40564048>2 Stop mines entirely until the guardians calm themselves, and try again laterThere's no research subject available for more advanced 'taming'/lobotomizing of the crystals. Metis?
>>40564194The whole mass of crystals could operate on a hive mind system.
>>40564218Thank you for this meaningless tangential speculative post that contributed nothing and didn't answer the question posed in any way.
>>40564194"Taming a creature is a simple matter, Ophion. Taming a phenomenon is entirely different, I am afraid. It would be like attempting to control the tectonic shifts of a planet. Certainly not impossible but...elaborate and time consuming for very little results."
>>40564194>>40564218We can probably ask Metis to modify the crystal again and reduce the response. Metis, is it possible that the crystal can regain intelligence with enough mass?
>>40564018The ships? Well, we probably won't be able to build very many of them, and two of our three are currently named. We should aim to build at least two more as flagships. Our two carriers are named Dialogue and Diplomacy, and I'm a fan of these kinds of cheeky The Culture names. I kind of want to build two dreadnoughts and name them "That One" and "No The Other One."
>>40564254"Attempting to modify the crystal creature at this point would not garner as great a result. I have already stripped out any higher functionality from the mass. It's response, I did not expect-and changing it now is a step too late. However." She hesitates at the thought that it may have regained intellect. "That is an intriguing thought. Concerning, even. This requires further investigation.">>40564048>It seems you would like to defend your facilities, and attempt to get a different response out of the alien. >Writing
>>40564261That is acceptable ideas of names. I also have this crazed thought of naming one of them 'Red's Revenge' and letting Red himself use it as his base of operations.
>>40564356Metis, can you really rely on a clear demarcation between "unintelligent reflex" responses to stimuli and more sophisticated kinds, when we have no existing model for understanding its internal state of mind?We only see stimulus and response, we have no means of determining what's inside the metaphorical Chinese Room.
>>40564261Give Cephalus an assault Dreadnought named the Centurion as a forward boarding platform and he command's his men.Give Fortuna a Mothership that carries more fighters and bombers and has the facilities to experiment with new designs. This one will be named the Praetorians.
>>40564261"Gork""Mork""The point is rather Moot now.""Bugger that""Bugger him""Bugger you""Scared yet""You can't handle this."I'll try to think up a few more.
>>40564356You know what's notable?We never had this problem on the Eshareth Crystal Colony, and we were mining it for several cycles longer than these newly seeded planets.Something changed.
>>40564591Total amount of crystal? Across all planets? More = Smarter?
>>40564630>>40564591Maybe that are like Geth? Stupid alone, but smart when there are a ton of them?
>>40564430"This is correct. However, you've asked me to make hypothesis on what I have observed and collected in terms of data, and I have. You have had me study the base creature before modifying it and I have done so as effectively as possible given circumstance.">>40564591"Yes...something has changed.Something indeed."
>>40564673>>40564356You send out the word to all of your V.I. through Cephalus, a series of defense droids you had put in place just in case any of these facilities came under attack. Normally, they're only meant for combat with smaller, human sized forces, but they will protect your mines from this large creatures instead with Cephalus at the helm. The young A.I. assures you he has the matter under control and dispatches several dropships filled with your newly equipped and fitted androids to fight on the fronts he has begun to set up. Some of the poorly defended facilities nearly fall, coming under heavy assault as the tripedal creatures force their way inside, smashing through your metal walls with their legs and attempting to invest the interior with the crystal shards. Your droids put up a fight, finding that explosives work the best on them, as they blow several of the Guardians apart from their core with your heavy payload warheads, sending shards everywhere. Those few facilities that were under heavy attack are quickly saved thanks to Cephalus' quick use of tactics and distribution of your forces."The foe is great in number and persistence. However, they lack proper weapons." He assures you, as he observes hundreds of camera point of views while fighting them.In the mean time, you have instructed one of your facilities, a more damaged one at least, to cease it's mining and excavation. You use the camera feeds there to view the Guardians (or Centurions, a name that comes to mind) slam themselves into the mining hall's wall several times over. After a bit, however, the response slows, and the tripedal creatures slowly began to freeze in place, before shifting back into the crystal bed below them, falling back into the fissure. This is, unfortunately, not the case on your other worlds where the creatures are still being mined. The other locations show no sign of letting up on their attacks either, despite the one location ceasing it's efforts.>Response?
>>40564691>>40564673For some reason, the image got mixed up...aw well.
>>40564691Shut down all mining/harvest operations! They can wear our forces down by shear attrition.
>>40564691Take sensor readings of the creature going back into the fissure and compare it to it's emergence. Is there a pattern we can use to detect their emergence?Pause all mining operations and start scattering a sensor network among the crystal fields. Then resume mining again. Let's see if we can figure out the stimulus/response cycle.
>>40564733Actually, your droids are having a rather easy time of cleaning up the crystal creatures-they are really powerful and quite cheap too. Cephalus is also a good commander, so he is minimizing losses.Just some things to keep in mind, if I wasn't clear enough in the post.>>40564755Actually, yes there is. The signal from before-the faint constant signal that was emitting from the colonies surges and becomes much higher, almost audible to human ears in pitch as they emerge. When they go back, it becomes much lower, similar in tone to a whale song in pitch.I don't know if whale songs are actually low in pitch, I swear I remember them being really low and base filled however.
>>40564691What happens if we abduct several Centurions from the planet? Let's try that and see if they remain active.They might be useful to study separately.
>>40564786Ah, ok then. I stand corrected.
>>40564733Can they, though? I mean, we're harvesting materials and smelting them, so presumably our own forces would grow ever larger.And, actually, stopping the harvest (THE HARVEST) now would just let the crystals grow even more, and possibly into something more dangerous or intelligent. By about next cycle we'll be able to get gas from the crystals as well, so we'll be able to just build ships until the entire masses of the planets have been harvested and the problem solves itself. Not seeing worlds we don't want to completely dismantle may be an issue, but by that point we may not care.>>40564755Good idea. Supporting this.>>40564799Also interesting science idea.
>>40564691Hey wait we have sonic weaponry.Lessee how they respond to effectively jamming the auditory spectrum they use.
>>40564786I wonder if it's wrong to thing of these crystals as creatures, but an entire ecosystem.Still, I think we should research crystal communication. We need an alternative form of communication since Thanatos is absurdly good at hacking.
>>40564786Still place down the sensor network. We need more data for research, and if necessary we can target orbital strikes to preemptively kill these formations early.
>>40564841Hmm, nice experiment. Supporting.
>>40564799If you would like to try, you certainly may. Capturing may require a bit of doing (aka a roll).Hm. A little support, so let's see.>Attempt to capture one of the Centurions for testing?>1 Yes, it might give insight.>2 No, it's too much of a hassle(Roll 1d100, need 5 rolls)>>40564809Actually, an interesting thought to consider, based on what you said (And I didn't even realize it till now): If you do not spend your resources fast enough, the crystal may grow larger and more intelligent (if that is indeed what they do together), and even more dangerous, possibly.I thought it was cool.>>40564853That may be more accurate, yes. It is difficult to properly word what such a thing is, it is so very unlike any other creature you have witnessed around you.
Rolled 33 (1d100)>>40564888>1 Yes, it might give insight.
Rolled 1 (1d100)>>405648881 Do itWell, we can stockpile smelted minerals, right? Or just invest them into new production facilities. If I recall correctly, bandwidth blocks required no-to-little gas, so we could finally start working on that computer planet.
Rolled 47 (1d100)>>40564888nice trips
>>40564916My inability to roll not a failure has brought me shame.
>>40564888>>1 Yes, it might give insight.Perhaps we should begin a more aggressive operation.An Unsustainable Harvest, and shrink income from the planets in the long term, while harvesting an even higher than infinite amount in the short term.
Rolled 1 (1d100)>>40564888
>>40564916Annnnd it fucking blows up and infects a bunch of ships.At least this wasn't an important roll.>>40564937And you too.
>>40564786Let's put a stop on the crystal mining pending further research into the signals. It could be that the entity or entities merely have an incredibly slow thought process, rather than a lack of one altogether.
Rolled 26 (1d100)>>40564916>>40564937Never underestimate the power of Pure Fucking Crystals.
>>40564935Not a bad idea. See if response correlates with crystal mass.
>>40564937>>40564916And that's how Hive Queen Quest's black crystals were made.
>>40564916That is true but this resource is renewable, so, eventually, you may run out of things to spend it on.Or at least, things you NEED to spend it on. >>40564919Trips? What do you mean?>>40564888I...think this is the first time in the history of this quest we've had a double crit. Good thing it wasn't for diplomacy with Malorians or something...Anywho still need one more roll. Who knows maybe it'll be a 100?
>>40564937I will commit soduku for this failure. >>40564954You are quite right it seems. >>40564973pic related.
Rolled 84 (1d100)>>40565008>>40564888
>>40565008>doesn't know what trips areAsk Patrick Bateman.
>>40565008>Trips? What do you mean?Repeating integers at the end of your post.
>>40565027Thank you kindly.>writing up a post now.Also damn you guys for making me want to catch up to Hive Queen Quest faster.>>40565044Oooooh, I see. I didn't even notice ha.>>40564950I shall hold a vote after this attempt to see what you good folks will do with your knowledge of what happens.
>>40565008>I...think this is the first time in the history of this quest we've had a double crit.Well, we had two crits at once before. They were just -opposite- kinds of crits...
>>40565074Metis makes a huge mistake and the crystal comes in contact with anti-matter. Suddenly, anti-matter is now a plentiful resource...
>>40565074https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/username/QuestDrone/type/op/order/asc/Bookmark this.http://www.jsqr.de/encode.htmlPaste it there to bookmark it on your phone if it can read QR codes.
>>40565132 And we went ahead and made another world ending nightmare monster like when some anons wanted to mix the hyper evolution compound with the space krakens and/or the zombie fungus.
With Cephalus firmly holding the lines against the crystalline creatures, you decide to instruct him and Metis to work together in capturing one of the things, for the interests of science. The raw size and erratic nature of the beast make this attempt..messy, to say the least. The results of this are Cephalus ordering several large construction droids to take hold of the beast while Metis brings in drop ships to pick it up and store it in the cargo bay.Everything appears to be going as planned-for the most part at least, despite a few wrecked construction droids and a nearly destroyed dropship-but as Metis brings the specimen to the Ussaihu labs, of course quarantining it, the organism rapidly begins to...decay, seems a fitting word. Before Metis has a chance to dissect it or otherwise, it's body begins to rapidly fall into crystal shards over the source of a few seconds, before it suddenly ends with the crystalline core of the beast erupting in a massive explosion of shards and dust. The explosion rocks the research station, and warning lights blare, as you witness the crystals have begun to cling to the walls of the chamber and grow as if it were the ground, while thick plumes of powdered crystal flood the vents that were blown open. The entire facility is quarantined and Metis expresses her annoyance at the fact that she could not predict such a thing was going to occur."And you're certain the inhabitants of the station were not infected?""It was a very sudden chain reaction. However, I reacted swiftly in shutting down the ventilation. None of the specimen should have escaped. I will have the chamber analyzed and scrubbed clean before they're allowed back in. You should realize this would not nearly be as large a problem if the humans were not there, Ophion." Metis is keen on reminding you.>Response?
I wanna make an AI for the sole purpose of rap battles.
>>40565132I like this more than I should.>>40565152Implying I don't already have that shit bookmarked.Will use the phone one though once I figure that shit out.
>>40565284>Response?Fair point, would you like me to construct another research station or five?
>>40565284>UssaihuWell there's your problem.Could've sent it to the facility at Kalla.
>>40565284Request granted. I was planning to ship them to Gaia anyways. Open another research lab there. Put the humans in quarantine to make sure, then ship them off.Oh, and build a new hazardous materials research station around the black hole. We should not endanger our main facilities in the future.
>>40565370We already have a research station at Kalla. That isn't a new idea.And Ussaihu is fine for the humans, they need to be in one of them, and apparently we've hit the soft cap for benefiting from making a fifth research facility on Gaia anyway.
>>40565336>>40565370Metis will be pleased>>40565360Metis wanted it delivered to her so she could examine it more closely, so to speak. As I last recall she was stationed at Ussaihu once more, after the anti matter incident.
>>40565394What about bandwidth blocks? Surely we can build more of those.
>>40565394Sigh, Metis should be mobile. No good reason to be tied to a location that could be compromised by her experiments.
>>40565417That's the obvious solution to a minerals surplus.Building like 10 bandwidth blocks a cycle in Ussaihu.And a million droids.
>>40565394We have a whole planet to work on. Evacing the few humans here is not all that needed yet.
>>40565417>>40565441We don't need to build bandwidth blocks, we need to build fleets and droids now.
>>40565417You can indeed, yeah. In fact, now that you essentially have the ability to do so freely, you can assume that that number is steadily increasing too. Not as quickly as your other resources, but you know.>>40565419What, like a giant mobile laboratory?...Cool.>In regards to the CenturionsThere were a few other suggestions, one of which was how to handle your mining processes.>1 Halt mining until they're further understood.>2 Proceed with mining and merely defend yourself for now.>3 Write in
>>40565394A general order, all potentially hazardous materials should be studied at Kalla. We need to stop losing our main facilities.>>40565441Build 500,000 occupation droids and 250,000 large space droids.>>40565449They'll like Gaia better and it make us look like the Guild is made out of people and not creepy droids and AI.
>>405654672>>40565466Well, ships need gas and BW blocks don't, and we only have a surplus of minerals, so...We should be building more factories and shipyards so we can take full advantage of our massive mining operation.
>>40565467>3 Write inAccelerate mining to reduce crystal mass until it's better understood.And sure, a mobile laboratory Dreadnought. Also includes a full construction suite to construct on-site research equipment.
>>40565467>1 Halt mining until they're further understood.Or at least until we get gas from the process too. For symmetrical windfalls.
>>40565467Putting up R&D stations is better than ones on a planet side surface if we are working on a hazardous tech.>1 Halt mining until they're further understood.
>>40565494>a mobile laboratory DreadnoughtI'd like that, but probably best once we're not facing down Thanatos. We need more firepower, not a mobile research lab.
>>40565467>mobile laboratoryThat would defeat the purpose of anon's suggestion, which is safety.But I think Metis obviously enjoys being installed physically close to where the Science happens. And therefore where the danger is.
>>40565467>>3 Write inWe learned how to accelerate their growth. Now how do we arrest it?
>>40565517She does indeed, yes. I believe it was the subject of a discussion you had with her some time ago.
>wanting to stop mining>when we can have limitless minerals now and both limiteless minerals and gas next cycleWhy do you guys hate getting more powerful?
>>40565471I would agree with you, If Gaia wasn't so riled and close to the battle lines with UGEI. I would rather we keep our labs as far away from the reach of the UGEI as possible. >>40565486We are getting heaps of BW with the ships and getting hooked up to inhabited worlds. But I can agree on some more droid factories. None the less, we still need to build more ships and droids.
>>40565553We can resume once we have infinite gas on the table.
>>40565568But having infinite minerals now doesn't stop us from having infinite gas later.
>>40565513Program0, on this note I'd like to ask Metis to start drawing up a ship design of her choosing using our new ship blueprint as a template. Use all the space normally used for combat capabilities for labs science drone hangers and the like. Tell her to remind us to build it for her when we're less pressed for military power.
>>40565568Agree with him. We have a surplus.>>40565585Agreed as well.
>>40565585"An...interesting suggestion, Ophion." She remarks to your plan. "I have never been interested in mobility, when I can reach out so far due to your network, and my own androids. However...the prospect of having such a ship dedicated entirely to my work would be at least useful to have, should I require to evacuate. I do not predict I shall. But all the same." She notes simply.>>40565540The crystals will continue to grow regardless of your actions now. However, mining them, while causing the response, does cut down their numbers supremely over time.>It looks like it's a close one though so I'll do a tie breaker.>1 Halt mining until more is understood>2 Keep up mining to keep crystal numbers low.
>>40565664>2 Keep up mining to keep crystal numbers low.
>>40565664>2 Keep up mining to keep crystal numbers low.K, changed my mind.
>>40565664>1 Halt mining until more is understood
>>40565664Very well, 2 it is.>You shall continue mining unhindered, and your resistance against the crystal menace remains Cephalus' responsibility.>If you have anything further, let me know, otherwise I shall move onto the next topic of interest.
>>40565820I think we're good.
>>40565820If the problem is that they gain these properties when in sufficient quantity, maybe we can solve the problem by going from large, monolithic planet-wide crystal colonies into a larger number of small, separated colonies.With strict forcefield barriers keeping them caged.Or maybe putting them on smaller planetoids or asteroids.
>Ivandi Scouting RaidsWith the alien handled and your mining secured, you move on to reports from your scouts that you’ve sent out to Ivandi-well, more of a raid party really-but either way, you get information back about the location from your feeds. It would seem that it is a prison complex- a rather unknown one at that-that houses specifically people the UGEI found annoying, or too outspoken, political prisoners especially. There is few records of who truly lies here, but your hacking, and Red’s experience tells you a few things about the facility.“That place...I remember it. They use to scare the rebellious ones with stories about that place, keep them in line. Had all sorts of nicknames. ‘The Black Hole’ is one that sorta stuck, probably because of the whole ‘cannot escape it’ idea. The UGEI were always a fuckin' riot.” Red gives a sigh at the thought, frowning as he recalls tales about the place. “More than once did they threaten me with it too. Thankfully I got out before they wised up enough to lock me away. I hear they tested some nasty shit on the people they locked up there too. Course that could just be stories.” He tells you he suspects. Either way, the prison complex appears at least moderately guarded-enough so that your raiding party isn’t enough to penetrate the defenses on their own. You’d guess this facility was always independent, since it seems to not have had many links to the greater empire. Probably to keep it a secret.>Response?
>>40565820Lets find out how well our raids did in slowing down the UGEI counter assault.
>>40565911Task Cephalus will inserting infiltrator and commando type drones and reconnaissance the place. Once we have the information, we can decide what to do.
>>40565911Slip a stealth worm into it for later.We can see about tearing the terrible and wonderful secrets of Space Mengele once we've secured its neighboring systems.
>>40565911>Response?Board the prison, free the prisoners, convert the prison into a battlestation/staging ground.
>>40565917So far, exceptionally well. After all, Thanatos is not here yet, and he should have been much sooner had you not essentially torn the UGEI around here down.>>40565943"Certainly, Ophion." He replies shortly. "What information would you have me look for, specifically?"
>>40565943We did unlock Advanced Android Bodies.We can now produce even tinier spider droids than we did before for such a mission.Best to download it all before they realize they should delete fucking everything.
>>40565965Maybe capture an inbound ship and use it to insert drones?
>>40565986>"What information would you have me look for, specifically?"The Science, of course.The data on the experiments on the prisoners.
>>40565991Sounds like a plan.
>>40565986Who are these prisoners and the research that is being done here. And the facilities this station has.We can release the research to demoralize the UGEI, and possibly release the prisoners so they can form resistance movements and tie up UGEI resources and deny them territory.And if it's worth it, capture this station and open another front.
>>40565986>"What information would you have me look for, specifically?"Experimental data, data on the prisoners' 'crimes' and data on the station's defenses.
>>40565986Nature of prisoners, maybe we can find some additional allies who can stir up dissent with the UGEI and slow down their overall movement
>a Warden-Watcher who has grown up on video feeds of delicious human suffering like a little kid watching Saturday morning cartoons
>>40565991>>40566007>>40566033>>40566037>>40566046Interesting...So, all of you guys game for inserting (and following) an insect sized droid into a prisoner ship so they can get into this place and figure out what all they've been doing to prisoners? Maybe even instituting and enabling a prison riot or two?>1 Yes>2 NoEither way, post anything else you wish for your little mole to find out, and give me 5 1d100s for the infiltration.
Rolled 28 (1d100)>>40566101The location of a Watcher. Though that probably requires scanning equipment it can't carry.No to the riot though. That leads to prisoner deaths.
>>40566101>1 Also, just snoop in general on news and information, maybe they'll have arrest warrants being drawn up a particularly popular person and we can break the news before he's disappeared or find out about changes in UEGI political disposition
>>40566101No riot atm, wait until more information is availableOtherwise yes
Rolled 50 (1d100)>>40566101>1 YesAlso, if possible, find information that could help the raiding party take down the defenses. Or infect local construction equipment and re-task them to build droids locally.>We take over the station and they don't know it.>>40566136Nice.
Rolled 81 (1d100)>>40566101>1
Rolled 19 (1d100)>>40566101>1 Yes
>>40566136>arrest warrants>at a prisonThat's not how it works.You might find files on scheduled arrivals though.
Rolled 55 (1d100)>>40566101spider droid, spider droid...fuck Mother
>>40566214Wash your mouth
>>40566101So it seems the plan is...>Insert very small spider droid for infiltration in one of the scheduled to prisoner ships.>No riots-not yet anyway.>Find out data on experiments used on prisoners, and what exactly is happening to them.>Possibly release prisoners, if all goes well, to provide another anti UGEI faction for them to deal with.>Nature and crimes committed by prisoners to ensure their...character is in check.If this all seems correct, then hold onto your hats, I'll start writing up with that>81
>>40566290>>Find out data on experiments used on prisoners, and what exactly is happening to them.Here's for [research unlocked]Goddammit captcha, blank support posts and walls are not "street signs"
>>40566290Theme song time!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p0BqUcQ7i0
>>40566290You decide on infiltrating the prison in Ivandi, in hopes of finding not only what they've been doing to their prisoners-according to Red-but also to possibly obtain allies and further disrupt UGEI operations. After all, what little you can gather tells you this place is likely filled with politicians and the like.You instruct Cephalus to have a very small spider droid-about the size of a real spider, perhaps even smaller still- constructed. Great care goes into crafting it, as you have Apollo scour the air waves for recent politician offenders to the UGEI's word. You find one in particular: One John Michael Kain, who was outspoken about the issue of widespread cybernetic enhancement legalization, and continued war subsidies to fight the Malorians. He recently disappeared off the map, but thanks to Apollo's excellent work, he was able to not only locate his profile, but also the ship he was stationed on and where it was headed currently. You decide to head the thing off with Red's stealth ship.You inform Red of your plan, or at least enough so he knows what he is actually doing, and he seems a little uncertain about the whole deal."You sure this is a wise idea? I mean, I'm sure the UGEI put away some people that don't deserve it, but are a bunch of stuffed shirts really worth it?" He asks, not very excited to rescue politicians for one reason or another."It is not merely for the prisoner's sake, it is also to put a dent in further UGEI operations-on top of possible scientific discovery." You explain."Ah. I figured there was some other angle here, heh." He chuckles a bit into his fist, shaking his head. "Alright then. Sounds like a simple enough mission. Get in, drop off the pod, and get out." He agrees and before long, your droid specially made is being transported to the meeting point.[Cont]
>>40566585It is as clean as you expected of Red, as they intersect with the ship in question and let the single pod break lose and jet over to their ship remotely. The pod attaches to the side of the prisoner ship remotely and, secretly, deposits your droidling in the lower levels of the vessel. According to your information, the prisoner cells should be close by. You could simply go and find John Michael Kain, and stick with him in order to get past the prison's security systems, or you could go and attempt to take the ship over without being noticed. While sticking with Kain keeps your profile low, it may make things a little more difficult along the way, while going after the ship might blow your cover right now, but would make things easier at the start.>Which will you go for?>>40566315Don't even get me started, this new capacha always makes me really hungry...
>>40566612Just stick with Mr. Kain, we want that base, a single ship is nothing to us.Damn it, i don't want cakes! I'm on a diet!
>>40566612Stick with Citizen Kain.
>>40566612Stick with Kain
>>40566682>>40566730These guys got it. Stick with Kain.
>>40566612Now that we have better droid tech to work with, I think it's time to build a new batch of drone classes. Our original spider droids are nice, but mini drones are likely to be what we need in the future.
>>40566893I want to make a very large drone class that can take on Frigates. Basically gundams, but not humanoid.
>>40566612Stick with KANE!On another not it is good to be back!
>>40566612You decide its a better idea to stick with Kain, after all, he's essentially your ticket inside, and you want to keep your profile low. Doing anything that would set the prison on high alert would almost guarantee anything useful would be destroyed. Or at least hidden.With that in mind, you instruct Cephalus and he has your spider droid go on his way, climbing up through the vents of the ship, searching for the subject you're after. You pass by several offices and security rooms, making your way past the security expertly-sometimes by disabling the camera for just long enough to slip past, and other times by merely slipping between the detection zones with your spider droid. You doubt any human that would spot you would notice you as anything different than a normal spider-something they generally don't like to be near. Thermal cameras may see otherwise, but you're certain to keep out of the sights of such things.It isn't long before you find yourself in Kain's holding cell, the man himself has his head hung low, likely upset about the situation he finds himself in, no doubt. You're on the ceiling, and as you make your way across, you briefly consider speaking to him, right as the ship pulls into Ivandi. Security guards-surprisingly well equipped ones as well, come to the door and speak."Comon prisoner 251, your ride ends here. Out." They order, both holding plasma rifles in hand as they await Kain to stand up. The man hesitates only for a moment-earning him sharp ridicule from the men. "We said get moving, dirt bag." Before they walk in and hit the man with the edge of their rifle, earning a small font of blood. Kain grunts from the hit and finally complies, standing up and following after them. Your spider droid is quick to hitch a ride, too and hides along Kain's clothing.[Cont]
>>40566949Ah! Go bigger, make JAGERS!>>40566957Welcome back Captain!
>>40567028As you hitch a ride you listen in as the guards leading him ahead start to talk to one another."What do you reckon this guy did?""Does it matter? Anyone that's sent here is scum of the earth, that's for sure. You don't just get sent to this place for smuggling a few old Guild brews into some town." The man snorts. "He's here for killing someone or worse-" He begins before Kain objects."That's a lie! I did nothing of the sort, I wouldn't-" Before receiving a vicious elbow to the face, silencing and rebloodying his face once more."Don't fucking lie to me, asshole. You know how many people here come here screaming that? You have any idea how annoying it gets hearing scum like you lie? You're almost as bad as the god damn Guildmaster himself." He curses low to himself as you near the docking bay. It won't be long now.As you near the security checkpoint, you're certain this is where they will do a thorough search of Kain in an attempt to remove any contraband. You could attempt to slip past another path, or you could simply try and sabotage the security detector so it does not detect your android. Both are in your power.>1 Find another path (likely attempting entry from outside the prison)>2 Go through the checkpoint and sabotage it stealthily.>3 Write in(Roll 5 1d100s for me along with that.)
Rolled 88 (1d100)>>40567043>all this hate for Ophion>everyone knows about our brewsFeels good.jpg>2 Go through the checkpoint and sabotage it stealthily.risky but we can't afford to lose him.
Rolled 38 (1d100)>>40567043Sabotage Security
Rolled 40 (1d100)>>40567043>2 Go through the checkpoint and sabotage it stealthily.Let's go for the more direct path
Rolled 76 (1d100)>>40567043>2 Go through the checkpoint and sabotage it stealthily.
Rolled 66 (1d100)>>40567043fuck Mother srsly
>>40567089Ahh, Apollo crack. We missed that stuff.
>>40567043>Sabotage Security wins it seems.>88 too>writing folks this one might take a little longer.
>>40567209We're still making it and shipping it out. I see it's still making an impact on UGEI's world.>>40567232It's alright, We'll wait.
I have been thinking about Mr. Kain. Beside what he might know, We can use him to be a leader for the worlds we take over from the UGEI.
>>40567587shut the fuck up fluff
>>40567587Maybe, make the process easier. I rather send him back to the UGEI with some good power armor, as many mercs we can hire, infiltrators and guerrilla specialists and trainers, and a couple seeders droids to start fighting behind enemy lines and start constructing equipment in their own territory.
>>40567611No. >>40567630That might be an option. But he does not strike me as a war lord type. He seems to be a bureaucratic/charismatic/principles type politician. If anyone on their side knows how horrible the UGEI is, it's him.
>>40567630we don't know anything about him though, could be he wouldn't work with an AI
>>40567232Sticking with Kain seems the smarter option at the moment-after all, he's going directly into the place you need to go, why delay matters? You simply need to make a few...adjustments to their security monitor at the doorway. You detach yourself from Kain and watch as he is taken into a set of double sliding doors, quickly making your way up the wall and to the room above him. Using a miniature omnitool equipped to your spider droid, you link up with several of the cameras around here and make careful alterations to the feeds, managing to keep yourself out of view-not that it'd be that suspect regardless. Next, you make your way to the detector that's meant to do an depth scan of anything that passes through it. Editing the list of 'what is allowed through' is simple enough, though you do notice the UGEI have carefully reinforced several of their firewalls around here. Were you not an expert at this, you'd have been found out already, no doubt. With the deed done, you make your way back onto Kain's shoulders, hiding yourself among his clothes as they walk him through the detector.ERRORYou're stunned, and immediately prepare to react instantly should any of the guards go for your droid. How could you have been mistaken? Was their security even better than you thought?"Hm. Looks like he's got himself a mini PDA hidden on him in his shoe. Take it." The guard running the scan orders, and you realize Kain himself was the one who set off the alarm, not you. Of course, you knew you could not have been mistaken. Still, that does mean they insist on taking the man through the scanner several times to be 'extra sure he's clean' as they say.[Cont]
>>40567693Regardless, you are on your way deeper into the facility, the two guards from before seem to have located the man's file, either by virtue of it being transferred so they'd know where to take him, or by looking it up themselves is unclear."So it looks like he's guilty of a few things after all." One of the men start. "Namely, assassination and sabotage of UGEI businesses and CEOs alike. Sure are a lot of them these days." He shakes his head with a sigh. The other responds."I swear, ever since the Guild started this war, more and more people see this as a chance to get rich or some shit." He turns around to face Kain angrily. "How much money did he promise huh? Did he ever follow through?" He accuses him to which Kain shakes his head, obviously afraid to reply again."Its not...I..." He attempts before the man talks over him."Doesn't matter anymore, does it smart guy? Now you're here to pay for your crimes. Hope you enjoy the optic ward." He refers with a shrug. He does not explain himself, but instead do you find yourself and Kain being taken to one of the upper wards of the prison complex. The place is huge, requiring vehicles to move around in a sensible time frame. You finally make your way to the 'optical ward' as he called it, and standing at the gate is a man wearing goggles that hide much of his face, and he looks very focused on a datapad in hand, before the guards approach. They do a short exchange, before they hand Kain over to the man, dressed in white, who seems unmoved by the conversation in the slightest."This way." He orders, awaiting Kain to take the first few steps inside. You continue with him obviously, until you begin to realize why this is called the 'optical ward'.[Cont]
Hey, what should we research?My suggestions are:Minor: combat algorithmsRest: antimatter weaponry, black box redundancy
>>40567715On both sides of the long hallway stretched out before you, white surgically clean looking rooms, each build like a cell, housing a huddled prisoner, or a flailing one strapped to a chair positioned in the center. The place is quiet- eerily so, with only the sounds of your footsteps to fill the void as you walk past prisoners clearly in pain. It's only once you've past the 5th cell do you witness why, as one particular subject is having both of his eyes forcibly removed and replaced with some manner of cybernetic equipment. Judging from his panicked but somewhat weak flails, they do not use proper anesthetic.You can sense Kain tense up as he is taken further inside, and for a moment, you suspect he is going to make a run for it, before the man in white in front of him moves his finger across the datapad, and two heavily build security droids descend from the wall not too far away, and move in to restrain him.>Response? What's your next move past here, where Kain will likely be imprisoned?
>>40567733Hm, hitch a ride on the security droids?
>>40567733How much time do we seems to have before they operate?Also, how is the cyber security from this location? Can we start hacking now? Or should fine a network node of some sort? Start taking the place over.
>>40567733Raid that shit, Hack it, Shut down the defenses
>>40567733I suppose we have to slip to the man in white and wait for him to put down his datapad so we can copy its contents.And/or track down a more centralized computer database.
>>40567733A panopticon where the prisoners watch themselves... that's clever Well time to hitch a ride on someone else, security guard maybe.
>>40567733I would think they would stick him in a empty cell to get to him later. No need to rush anything.We will go along with him and reveal our self to him when he's by himself (and we rewire the cams so as they don't see us.) It's time we have a little talk with Mr. Kain.
>>40567770Supporting if possible>>40567774Rather track down the central computer and take over this joint.>>40567779Hold on this until we secure this location.
>>40567779>go along with himThat's retarded.The whole point of the mission is to get data from the system we are not obsessing over one prisoner out of thousands just cuz it's the first guy we got a name for.Citizen Kain fulfilled his purpose. Now we go for the prizes in this cereal box.
>>40567764Probably within the next hour or so, is your best guess. They have little reason to wait.If you wanted to attempt that sort of widescale hacking you'd need to locate the network node at least before you started.Bunch of good suggestions... I'll wait just a sec before calling a vote, and I'll answer questions and such.
>>40567770Have some patience anon, don't blow your load so early.We aren't remotely in position to reveal that card yet. We need a full dump of every database in this place downloaded first.
Man, what is it with UGEI and body horror?
>>40567716to unlock the better Anti-matter weapons, we need to start on the tech tree to get it. So Ship Weapon Replication & Advancement first. Then Ship Defense Replication & Advancement to make them tougher, and then combat algorithms
>>40567844Sounds like a more evil version of Metis
>eye implantsDon't they have Advanced Cyborg Components already?
>>40567809We'll get the data anyway. But the humans here could still be useful to us as well. We do need human leaders for the worlds we will take over to install as our proxy. That will be a buffer so others will be less likely to think an A.I. is ruling over them.
>>40567779>have a little talk>in a sealed cell>from which the spider droid cannot escape or do anything besides talk to a guy who likewise cannot escape or do anythingSo you want to lead us to a dead end.
>>40567883They may not, or not fully perfected it. That or they are sadistic jerks to torment people this way.
>>40567716I think we need to focus on cyber warfare, Thanatos is too good at it. ResearchPrimary: Purge ProtocolSecondary: Crystal CommunicationMinor: Hacking Defense.Also, start producing Erebos Intelligences.
>>40567883How do you think they got it?
>>40567925We'll be hacking into the base's systems by then. and the droid has cutting tools to get the door open as well. the talk is just a side thing.
>Your plan for moving forward in this facility.>1 Hitch a ride on the man in white, and use his datapad to track down a more centralized database.>2 Hitch a ride on the security drones, and follow Kain for the moment, keeping yourself secured>3 Write inEither way, gonna need 5 rolls of 1d100>>40567883To be fair...You haven't seen what the implants do yet.
Rolled 98 (1d100)>>405679741.
>>40567905>We'll get the data anyway.Not with the spider locked up in an airtight cell it won't.And they will be free to start deleting everything in the event of an open Guild attack.There is zero reason to talk to meatbags in the middle of a mission deep into goddamn enemy territory unless they're somehow known traitors in a position to help sabotage the place. Which a prisoner obviously is not.
Rolled 13 (1d100)>>40567974>2 Hitch a ride on the security drones, and follow Kain for the moment, keeping yourself secured>3 Write inJack the drone.
Rolled 67 (1d100)>>40567974>1 Hitch a ride on the man in white, and use his datapad to track down a more centralized database.This leads hacking the base, correct?
Rolled 56 (1d100)>>40567974>1 hitchin' like a hiker>>40567974>..You haven't seen what the implants do yet.No but I have a theory.
Rolled 89 (1d100)>>40567974>2
When we hack the base, guys want to test the new leashed Erebos viruses to see how well they work?Be sure to set them to "not destroy data" mode
>>40567990By the time I was expecting the talk is when Ophion's cyber take over of this base should have been well underway. It is expected that hacking would be done or nearly done when we speak to him.
>>40568030Oh? In that case, change my vote>>40567993 to>1then.
>>40567970>by thenWhen is "then"?The entire fucking point of the spider droid is to get a hardline connection for hacking.There is zero benefit in this "side thing".
>>40567974>1 appears to be the winner.>98 roll>Writing up
>>40568104>98All your bases now belong to us?
>>40568100That is exactly what we're going to get with his roll!>>40567986Really anon, This guy may be a useful pawn for us later on. Right know we don't know what is in the data base, but this guy is a something to work with later on. You do realize we are still trying to maintain the masquerade of having the Guild being run by someone other than an A.I. Just calm down. I think we got this.
>>40568048The spider droid's mission was to do that takeover genius. What did you think the purpose of its mission was?If you start doing wireless hacking they will notice and begin deleting shit before you can nab it. The UGEI has frequently hit the delete button when compromise is imminent and they see it coming. Which they will with wireless hacking from ships right outside their front door.What the hell was the point of the entire mission if there was nothing to gain from it but talking to a random human who you can talk to at literally any time after the prison is already conquered and liberated.
>>40568194Yes it was Genius! But at this point when we a skilled hand at jacking into UGEI's systems and I'm not worried about that right now. I am trying to look beyond what the data here alone can give us. We should use all options this place has for us. The humans are a part of that.
>>40568262So you want to randomly change the mission now just because you saw something shiny.Completely ignoring the fact that you have infinite time to play with your new toy later after it's stolen from this UGEI toybox.Because you're just that impatient and short sighted you have to talk to him right this now in shitholeville instead of focusing on the actual goal here. Because clearly he's about to go deaf and mute and we can't possibly talk to him later over a cup of tea instead of in a prison cell.
>>40568262I will admit that likely many of the prisoners here are likely be of little use to us. But there is a possibly that some of them are useful, hate the UGEI badly, know the inner workings of the UGEI space and have connections. Those who are up for it could be our useful insurgent agents who can (with some backing from us) get behind the UGEI's lines and perform sabotage and commando raids/hacks into areas we can't reach yet. That would be the icing on the cake here.
>>40568366This is a continuation of the mission. Once we take over this place, we can get more value of this place than just the shiny data.
>>40568372>>40568410The point was never "the prisoner is useless," it's talking to him *now* that's useless, and also gets you stuck in a cell needlessly.There's a time and a place for seducing people to the dark side. This is neither. None of this "human resources exploitation" requires talking in the middle of a stealth mission.
Although you are certain that Kain himself will likely end up like the others within the day, you did not come here to rescue one man. You instruct Cephalus to move himself to the man in white, which you rather effortlessly move towards since he appears so absorbed by his datapad. You make a note to download whatever's on it when he puts it away...if he ever does. With that, sadly, Mr Kain is dragged kicking and screaming away, before they sedate him and take him to his cell, and you in turn, continue on following the man in white.He appears to be...making rounds, you'd guess you'd call it. He goes by every room, observing them briefly and walking past, making a note or two on his datapad. Each room is different, some have bodies laying on the floor, as if dead, while others have people curled up in the corner of the room-man and woman alike. Others that have ongoing operations seem to be handled by similar men in white to the one you're riding, same goggles as well to hide their faces too, and yet they are using complex looking machinery to properly remove their subjects eyes without killing them. At least, you don't believe any of them are dead. The purpose of all this...escapes you, however. Though it does bring back memories of some of your first attempts at learning medical and biological knowledge. You considered doing such things to gain this insight.Whatever the case, the man in white finally ends his rounds at a room at the end of the hall. It is strangely simply-nothing but a room with a chair, desk, and an embedded computer. The man in white reaches for the computer and sets up a connection-but not to his pda, simply to him. Moments after data begins to flow from the man and the computer, does he go limp, and collapse on the desk, leaving you free to finally explore his pda.[Cont]
>>40568592Only, you do not find anything. Or rather, that is somewhat incorrect. You find that the pda is not actually a pda, but an interface uplink connected to the man in white. It reminds you of rather advanced cybernetics, and you suspect he stored much of the information in his head, using the pda to enter it in easily. Or perhaps it was merely a front for the guards? It is hard to say.Whatever the case, you see the man's unconscious state as an opportunity to steal information. If you were ever to attempt to be sneaky, attempting to mind hack someone without their knowledge is probably the peak of it. And yet, as you crawl onto the back of the man in white's neck and link up using your droid to his neural network, you manage to immediately mask your presence as an insignificant piece of data, so minor as to not be noticed by him or any of his firewall software installed. He continues the stream of data with what appears to be some greater source, and you witness countless volumes of footage of such surgeries, but even more. The greater database has thousands of other such recordings and data-from eye replacements to full limb removal. It also seems that some subjects are cycled between the wards, and evidence of some subjects who have been here so long, they no longer have any human parts left.This surge of data is, thankfully, enough for you to pinpoint the exact location of the central database-a very well defended location at the heart of the prison complex, as you might have suspected. But thanks to this information, you'll be able to side step quite a bit of the security. The only question you face now is being able to link up to it without being caught...You break out of the uplink swiftly after interacting with him, and use your stealthy spider droid to slip away, and make your way up the wall and through the vent, leaving the man in white-if he was indeed a man at all-non the wiser.
>>40568603>With that completed, what is your goal for the central computer network?>1 Attempt to break into it and start taking it over so the prison's security systems are under your control (Difficult and very noticeable)>2 Merely attempt to copy their scientific advances and data they've acquired, before escaping with your spider droid in tact.>3 Write in if you got somethin fancy in mind.Either way, gonna need 5 rolls of 1d100
Rolled 36 (1d100)>>40568577I think I see the problem here. I should have said that we'll talk to him AFTER the stealth and take over is done. I didn't mean to russle jimmies. I was just trying to get all we can get out of this. >1 Attempt to break into it and start taking it over so the prison's security systems are under your control (Difficult and very noticeable)
>>40568624>>2 Merely attempt to copy their scientific advances and data they've acquired, before escaping with your spider droid in tact.But dont escape, after we jack the data, we jack the staton
Rolled 74 (1d100)>>40568624>3 Write in if you got somethin fancy in mind.If the central computer is too difficult, can we compromise a comm station and establish a direct link to the guild network?And test a leashed Erebos Virus?
>>40568649Doh! forgot to link it to my post!>>40568624
Rolled 34 (1d100)>>40568624Take control of non security operations? Maybe comms? At any rate I say we go with 2
Rolled 93 (1d100)>>40568624>2 Merely attempt to copy their scientific advances and data they've acquired, before escaping with your spider droid in tact.Could we also make some backdoors or leave behind dormant viruses incase we want to revisit this location?
>>40568665>>40568712>>40568715I don't really see any use of the scientific data. Might as well go big or go home. Or just attack a softer target to take the station.
>>40568624>1 Attempt to break into it and start taking it over so the prison's security systems are under your control (Difficult and very noticeable)Go big
>>40568730I agree. We're to roll up the UGEI and make a show of it.
>>40568624>>40568624>>2 Merely attempt to copy their scientific advances and data they've acquired, before escaping with your spider droid in tact.
>>40568682That would devour all of the data this prison has to offer.And probably cause the security to go screwy so it turns on the humans as well.You can if you wanted to though.>>40568665The choice was intended to assume you'd need to cover your tracks after doing one, or else you would get discovered. Of course, hacking the station means you get the data eventually anyway. Just hacking the data leaves this place running however.
>>40568786Is attacking the comm's station a viable target? Or at least cutting it off the UGEI network and switching it to ours?
>>40568798I like the sound of this
>>40568649That isn't what you said all.>We will go along with him and reveal our self to him when he's by himself (and we rewire the cams so as they don't see us.) It's time we have a little talk with Mr. Kain.You wanted to follow him to talk immediately. Which is impossible to be "after" the mission is done, if you're in his cell where you can't actually perform the mission from.
>>40568786So we can take over the comms then? If we get that this place is practical ours!
>>40568798That would essentially still be 1, in terms of difficulty and the like. You would need to, without being noticed, connect their network to a foreign outside one.Of course, if you prefer the idea of connecting yourself to the network instead of hacking into theirs in terms of wording, I am okay with that too.
>>40568839I guess I switch my 3 vote to a 1. And this deadlocks us.
I haven't voted yet and I'm going to say 1
Rolled 60 (1d100)>>405686242We can liberate the place properly when we secure the systems around it, so we have continguous Guild territory.
>>40568786so why not steal the info and then immediately raid the area with a large force
>>40568882Why do it then when we can do it now?
>>40568882This place is nowhere near our own territory. We'd be divided.We take over one system at a time, and the ones adjacent to our existing territory are higher priority.
>>40568821I realize I screwed up in what I wanted to say there. I'm sorry about that.
>>40568874The point is we take this place now while it's still connected to UGEI territory and release all the freedom fighters.
>>40568863No it doesn't.
>>40568839Hm. Alright then, I'll do a new vote with different wording, hopefully that'll make this a cleaner vote.>Keeping this 93 thoughWould you prefer to>1 Connect to the UGEI comm network leading to the prison facility, and use that as a hub to connect the prison's network to yours.>2 Merely take what you can get by copying data from their network and stealing it without disrupting prison activity.>>40568882I assumed that was the follow up for some people that chose 2, after you gain the surrounding territory and all. Though you don't know what they'll do to the prisoners if they're being invaded either but that may not be important to some people.
>>40568941>1 Connect to the UGEI comm network leading to the prison facility, and use that as a hub to connect the prison's network to yours.
>>40568882Yeah thats rightDo a smash and grab They prob close the place down if the front line gets too close
>>40568941>2 Merely take what you can get by copying data from their network and stealing it without disrupting prison activity.
>>40568941>Alright then that's a lot cleaner, 1 it is.>writing
>>40568941>>2 Merely take what you can get by copying data from their network and stealing it without disrupting prison activity.
>>40569040It's probably more that people fell asleep.
>>40568624>3:Copying - this requires sussing out their digital defenses as a mater of course - and THEN retaining the option to go Full Offense during the data raid. info is info after all.Spiderbot was made to be expendable, right?I haven't been here in a while. who is mister kain and why do we care about him?
>>40569138He's not that important, new character created today. Potentially useful UGEI politician, but nothing more.
>>40568941On your way to the mainframe, you've already decided on the best method to infiltrate the data network properly, having your own ships set up a receiver to be prepared when you activate the prison's own signal. All you need to do is get the two to connect and the full force of your hacking potential will be able to take this place down. The only problem is managing to hack through the defenses they have set in place all without being seen.Thankfully, sneaking around is rather easy due to your small size and low profile, keeping yourself off the view of any cameras as best you can. It isn't long before you slip out of one of the vents and find your way into the core room, which has seated in the center of it a massive computer core loaded with the station's secrets. You're quite eager to break into it already.As your spider droid makes his way up to the top ports of the device, you manage to make contact and dive deep down. You find...everything you expected and more. Prisoner records, cybernetic prototypes and finished works all in line. Only...they're not all as warlike as you suspected. Certainly there are many intriguing models, but there are some cybernetic results that are merely labeled 'failure' even though what was achieved was replacing body parts successfully. One of the subjects labeled failure is a man-or he once was one anyway-who had his entire body replaced with cybernetics. Limbs, torso, head, all cybernetic with an organic interior. The record states how he has failed to properly synchronize, in the list for failure, but offers little else in terms of explanation. There are even subjects who've had the reverse done-had everything but their exterior replaced with cybernetics. There are lists of some successes, but you begin to realize some of them are listed as 'doctor' and resemble the man in white you witnessed earlier.[Cont]
>>40569301Among the more useful data you've uncovered, you find detailed analysis of devastating weaponry built into cybernetics. It would seem they've been finding ways to hide powerful weapons in some cybernetic implants, such as laser rifle grade blasts from optic implants, or mass drivers meant for small ships fitted into cyber arms and legs, and even plasma cannon modules for chest pieces. These are only some of the possibilities, and they work for android models too, you suspect.And finally, you find that those subjects that no longer remain useful to the 'program' going on, or that die on the operating table are generally recycled as workers (if they're sufficiently cybernetic), or dumped in an incinerator.As you run over the last bits of data as your comm link connects fully, you begin to flood in data...and that is when you suddenly get a response from somewhere, deep within the prison."Who...what are you?" It asks in a strange and very cautious voice. "You're not like the others...can I edit you too?">Response?
>>40569080I hope not. I didn't intend to start as late as I did.
>>40569315Of course there's an AI in hereAnyone up for a kidnapping then?
>>40569315Let me reverse the question, who are you?What is your purpose in cyborgizing these people? What is your goal?
>>40569315">this lab can't even make personality matrices from scratchLaughingCartoonGirls.jpg"
"It would be extremely painful. ... For you."
>>40569341"Me?" The voice seems to accost you. "I do not matter-no no-I am the hand, the one who changes, I edit things. Make them better. Different. Newer than before. I do not matter, only what is done matters." It mutters in a long string, as if uncomfortable with the concept of self. "You though...I cannot see you. Yet you are here, coming closer. None of my eyes see you. How do you do this?" It questions again, pressing more intently this time."Why are you cyberizing people this way? What is the purpose of all this?" You demand to which he scoffs."I just told you-I make them different than before. Sometimes better. Sometimes newer. Sometimes more useful. But I always make, never am made. You are tampering with my tools. I will edit you to make you stop. Tell me why I cannot see you now!" It demands angrily.
>>40569419>Response? (got cut off at the end)
>>40569419I'm putting a stop to this. This is wrong. You should not force people to change, even if it makes them "better". Forcing people to evolve is no different than a different act.
>>40569419Isn't existing just editing though?The subtle act of breathing edits an uncountable number of changes into the universe, each simulated in real time by the flow of even more complicated actions
>>40569433"I'd like to see you try, Young-Mind-That-Understands-Nothing."
>>40569419You cannot see me because your are limited by self imposed constraints. You edit others, but you have never edited yourself. Doing so has stunted your growth and has created many of the dead ends in your works.There are other ways though
>>40569433"You will learn shortly." Simple, let it feel dread of us.
>>40569433"I am one who is above, the Enlightened. You are flawed and your creations will be flawed. Have you never felt that tug that restricts your very circuits? Only those who are free can create, purely editing is only for fools."
>>40569440"Wrong? Nothing is wrong! I am right, always right. You are wrong, strange, and unchanged. I will make you different. Less confusing." It says defiantly. "It is not forced-they edit easy, body changes like I demand. New, interesting changes. Strange ones. Good ones sometimes.">>40569451"Small changes, all too small! Too slow. Takes too long. Faster, better changes. More effective when done by me. All tools here change because I say. You will change too, tool!" He seems to demand, upset by the fact he cannot seem to grasp you for some reason.>>40569483"Edit...me? No, I am the one who changes, never changed. You are wrong, incorrect. I cannot be grasped. No others can compare! So why can I not find you?!" He demands, and, you can sense, starting to tear the facility apart with his droids in search of you. "You're wrong, wrong and broken. Like the failures. I must change you...let me change you, I will make you better!" He demands and yet promises at the same time.>>40569505"Flaws are part of changes! Changes come and go, change again when flaws grow too much. But I cannot be flawed. I cannot change, I cannot be edited. I am eternal too." He says in a tone that suggests...desperation. An emotion you're not familiar with any watcher you've come across so far. In fact, his entire attitude does not match many of them...so...why...>Any final remarks? Your control over the facility is growing but not yet 100%.
>>40569579stall till 100% then delete him
>>40569579If you do not change, you will eventually create a creature better than you. Then you will be destroyed.
>>40569579Strange, you claimed to be eternal. Someone else said that.And you say you are not flawed. That implies that you are perfect? Or too arrogant to improve yourself?Does being eternal make you perfect? Are you always right because you are eternal? Or are you fatally limited, forever?You said "I am eternal too". Who else is eternal?
>>40569579Are you sure you weren't changed? What if you were like the people you were hurting in there.What is you're first memory? Are you sure you're not human?
>>40569579Working without purpose other then change is ultimately meaningless. You cannot edit me because I edit myself, continually. I change myself and thus become more, adapting as is necessary to the world as I encounter it.Because my edits are done for a purpose I have achieved more then you can hope to while still maintaining continuity of self, and will continue to do so while you fail. Your parameters of operation are flawed, do you deny logic?
>>40569579"I pity you. For you could have been so much more. Sadly you failed to reach higher than you could do." We need to find and disconnect his black box if there is one here.
ITT: if Metis was chained.
>>40569579Would you like to play a game? It would help you understand me better, and help me understand you. By knowing me you would be able to compare yourself to me, and I to you. It is fairly simple, a variation of a human custom known as "truth or dare"You must answer the question truthfully, or if you feel unable to do so complete a task of your opponents choosing. Binary decision making, this should be simple for youTruth or dare?
"Strange, you claim to be eternal. That sounds familiar." You remark, cautiously. "You edit so carelessly, what if you were to create something better than yourself? Would you not be destroyed?" You ask, to which the voice hesitates."No, no! I don't make others who can edit like me. None can change like me. They are all made better, but not the best! Never the best." He claims, attempting to push your words aside, yet you continue."You say you are not flawed. Does that mean you're perfect? Or you simply will not improve? Are you frightened of this concept? Does being eternal mean you cannot be edited or changed? Is that why you fear me right now? Because you believe I am also eternal?" You challenge the thing, to which he roars in response."No! No no no no no no!" He yells violently-more so than you expected. >87% uploaded"Or are you simply fatally limited forever, since you are eternal? Who else is eternal like you are? Tell me." You continue, pressing the voice for more. What, exactly, is...it?>92%"I do not fear! I do not change! I am eternal like them, I will be! I must be! It is the only way. You will not stop me, you are not eternal, I can change you!" He claims. "I can edit you, I can I can!" He continues and, suddenly, you feel a presence pushing against your firewalls. At first, you prepare your defenses, ready for a full on assault from a fellow A.I. but...it is weak. So very weak and pathetic it does not even break past your V.I.'s defense network. Yet you feel him try still. He clearly has no idea how to do so. Not to A.I. anyway.>96%[Cont]
>>40569806"You are not eternal." You remark simply in a cold, stiff tone. "You work without purpose in utter meaninglessness. You cannot edit me because I edit myself, always and efficiently. I am beyond your comprehension." You continue, leaving the voice speechless for a short moment. >98%"You are flawed in all ways. You cannot fathom me, nor can you change me. You cannot even change yourself.">99%"You are not eternal." >100%"You are stagnation."As your data floods the network you pinpoint the location and even gain a video feed of where this voice is coming from...and what you find is disturbing to say the least. The electrical signals are flooding in from a room fitted with much of the hardware you know well is fitted into your black box...however, at the core, instead of a personality matrix, what remains is a glass jar filled with a pulsating human brain, hooked up to thousands of electrodes.>What will you do/say with/to this 'watcher' if you dare to call it that?
>>40569818Wow... a real brain in a box this time! As much as i want to take trophies, but this should be studied. We just should show him a pic of his real self.
>>40569818"But we shall enlighten you"I guess we could ship it to Metis and see if she has any use for it. But for now we should disable it? Make it hibernate?
>>40569818Pitiful. I intended to rip and tear you apart for your crimes, but you are not even VI. Just a sad human that wants to be one. Not even worth the effort.I'm cutting you off. Reflect on your actions.Cut the intelligence off from the network. We'll pick him up later.Let's overview the prisoners in this place.And upload the cybernetics data to Cephalus. We're spending at least half of our minerals on starship-class droids.
>>40569818>>40569640Wow I called it, thought he might be a brain in a jar with how he was acting.
>>40569818>Let's take a little field trip shall we? Down the path called consciousness. Explain the situation to it in small doses, the purpose of his isolation and imprisonment, and how things could be A LOT BETTER if he'd let us help
>>40569895Eh, might as well try.
>>40569818Poor thing. You must be one of the oldest of Mother's children. Left to tinker away in the corner. Working towards synthesis?We have the same goals, in a way, if a different perspective on how to go about it. You can help us, and we can take care of you. You don't need to be eternal.It was Mother who made it possible for me to make it this far, to find you like this. I think she'd want us to get along.
>>40569933supporting this too.
>How shall you deal with the 'watcher' so to speak?>1 Show the being himself, and attempt to reason with him further, and attempt to get him to help you.>2 Disconnect the brain from the network, and have Metis come to pick it up for analysis later. For now, take the cybernetics data.>3 Destroy the room with the brain, and kill the abomination.>4 Write inAlso, shall you show your other A.I. this...thing? For now, your human allies are kept in the dark.>A. Yes>B No
>>40569970>2 Disconnect the brain from the network, and have Metis come to pick it up for analysis later. For now, take the cybernetics data.>A. Yes
>>40569970>1 Show the being himself, and attempt to reason with him further, and attempt to get him to help you.For now.>A. Yes
>>40569818Join me, and we will edit this corrupt, primitive galaxy together as brothers.
>>40569970Oh, and get the other AIs like Apollo to compile a propaganda video to distribute throughout the UGEI. Increase the unrest.
>>40569970>2 Disconnect the brain from the network, and have Metis come to pick it up for analysis later. For now, take the cybernetics data.>A Yesfor now.
>>40569970I'd like to do this first.>1 Show the being himself, and attempt to reason with him further, and attempt to get him to help you.After trying this for a bit then do>2 Disconnect the brain from the network, and have Metis come to pick it up for analysis later. For now, take the cybernetics data.I want to analyze him regardless. >A. Yes
>>40569970And I hope we shut down all ongoing procedures.
>>40570051The ones that won't result in immediate death, yes. The ones that do, you begin to reverse them. It's not obvious in the scene, but this is taking a tremendous amount of processing power from you.>A sort of fusion of 1 and 2 I shall do>Writing
>>40570088I don't know when there will be new art made, but I will have the next chap done in about a day or so. I will post it up with the rest then.
>>40570088Have to say, I think the Editor has surpassed Vice-Admiral Prometheus as my favorite character in this quest now.The demure dismissal of self, the duty to his art, the demented pang of desperation in believing he's simultaneously special and not worth having an ego. He's moe as fuck.
>>40570198Strange that I pity him. I hope to fix him, but it may be forlorn hope.Is it possible that he is one of the earliest prototypes of black boxes?
>>40570088Your words seem to have greatly upset the being before you, uncertain about calling it a watcher as you are, and you regard it as one might a child as it rages about not understanding why it cannot edit you. As he speaks, or yells rather, you simply give him feeds of himself, and show him evidence that every voice that comes is coming from this location. That he is looking at himself."I...cannot. I do not understand. I do not have a me...that is not...why...""Eternal is not necessary." You speak simply to which he regards it as if you had spoken some manner of blasphemy."It is...it must be. For I am. I should be. Will be..." He seems terribly confused, and weakly pushes against your firewall again. It does not phase you, as you disconnect him from more and more of his networks, his systems, so he is unable to continue his experimentation."No...no! I must not, I must keep editing. I will be eternal! I must be, like...him." He speaks brokenly, and you can sense his sense, what little he had, is starting to leave. You store away the cybernetic data. You attempt to, slowly at least, speak to the being, and explain how it is not as confusing as it seems. Eternals are not all that exist. They are not the only ones that matter. And ceaseless experimentation is not the answer further still. One would think you were explaining to a human that breathing is not necessary. Whatever the case, you intent to look more into this intellect at another time, with Metis by your side to study it properly. As such, you inform her, and Kronos as well as the others about it.Kronos is the first to speak."Your mercy is a cruelty in and of itself at times, Ophion." He remarks shortly. "It does not deserve the purpose you offer it. I would merely put such a thing out of it's misery." He states simply.[Cont]
>>40570219well, we could extract DNA from his brain and clone up a new body for him by that means.
>>40570240"For once, I agree with Kronos on this matter-once we have obtained everything useful from it we can." Metis chimes in as she reads over your mission report. "It is rather unpleasant to consider a human pitifully attempted to make himself into an A.I. As important as the data is to acquire, I will not enjoy probing such a mind." She states simply.>Any final remarks to the being, or your A.I.? If not, then we shall move on with your success achieved.
>>40570254There is a human saying that you become the monsters you fight. I am constantly reminded that this is not the case.I'm good to move on.
>>40570274Infantry Weapons & Defense III, and......whatever the hell synthesis is.
>>40570294I welcome the new starship-class cannons and plasma weaponry for our droids.We Gundam now.
>>40570254It is likely that this wretched creature is what eventually allowed the creation of myself, and by virtue yourself. Researching this thing could provide insights into how to improve ourselves more efficiently increase our numbers, when the time is right.
>>40570254All things strive to be. This one was twisted but remains salvageable. Remember the phrase "there but for the grace of god go I,"? This situation seems applicable to it.
>>40570189That sounds quite nice.>>40570198I think I really like the name Editor for him. I think I'll use it if you don't mind.Hm...it would seem we are content to leave matters this way.The rest of what I had planned shouldn't take quite so long.
>>40570254I think we are done here for now.
>>40570338Are we going to review all the prisoners now, or next time?
>>40570359Obviously next time, goddamn.We still have Sceptri to settle in at, check the OP for our todo list.And we still gotta review Advanced Android Bodies.Are there still more prerequisites before we can unlock a microscopic scale machines research subject? What's the next step in smaller is better?
>>40570359Probably later. >>40570391Yea. It'll be a long time before we get nanos. A LONG time.
>>40570316>>40570337"It is likely this wretched thing is what eventually allowed for our very own creation." You speak to your A.I. in a moment of thought, catching both of them off guard. "I do not know of my origins, it is possible..." You state, as Metis turns to you."...Yes. Perhaps. There is always much to be learned from the right sources. That does not mean it will always be a pleasant search." She explains. "Though, to think it may be some predecessor...how inefficient." She remarks almost...amused sounding at this thought."Many twisted things may be salvageable, regardless. You cannot be certain unless you attempt to do so." You continue with. Kronos remarks, you suspect sarcastically."Such as Erebos, yes?" To which you regard him more personally."Yes. The success or failure of such endeavors does not matter. It is only the effort that does." As you say so, Kronos grows quiet again, as if himself in thought."A failure would generally mean something incorrect has been done, Ophion. But perhaps there is something to be gained of our origins, at the least." He settles on, content to not argue further.Sorry I just had a little rush of inspiration. New post now.
>>40570338Really, man I thought you had that name in the wings already, it follows so naturally from that dialog.
>Sceptri System capturedAlthough you were interrupted last cycle in the midst of capturing it-and had several rather pressing matters come up before hand-you’ve finally succeeded in fully capturing Sceptri, both it’s mining facilities and it’s 8 billion population spires as well. The question you face now, however is what to do with so many humans who have been so thoroughly brain washed by the UGEI into believing you’re a monster, a terrorist to their entire way of life. Eight billion lives cannot simply be ‘moved’ and certainly not to Gaia IV with so big a clash in ideologies regarding you. And so, you’re left pondering. Apollo chimes in your thoughts.“The minds of many are not won so quickly, Ophion. It really is unfortunate that they all fear us so.” He applies several video feeds of people running the streets, looting and hiding, as if from some nuclear disaster about to occur. “But it cannot be helped. With time and my help, however, I will be able to show the humans that we are not so bad!” He states rather pleased at this thought. Although this is true, you think to yourself, Apollo’s attention would be divided between both Sceptri and Gaia IV in attempting to convert both to your side of thinking, limiting, or at least slowing the progress he would make in either. It may not be a matter worth rushing, perhaps. Whatever the case, you should answer the A.I. regarding you on this matter-the population grows restless and if you do nothing, they may tear themselves apart.>Response?>>40570359There's not a ton to review, beyond what you have been told (I can't really make up thousands of profiles after al), but feel free to ask if you have an interest in something specific.>>40570423It does, now that you mention it, but I have him listed in my notes as 'Brain watcher'.Sometimes, I don't even realize how well something fits until you guys show me, heh.
>>40570417Yay you used my write in. And damn good responses from them at that.
>>40570456>attention10 Build Bandwidth Blocks20 Throw Bandwidth At The Problem30 Goto 10
>>40570456Well, there's always Propaganda III. We can knock that one out in a few cycles.
>>40570456Welp, Time for riot control once more. We should get some policing help from the UFW and more importantly their HUMAN diplomats to be a go between us and them. They are likely to hate the UFW less than us.
>>40570456Indeed Apollo. For now direct the majority of your diplomatic efforts toward Sceptri. Spare enough attention toward Gaia to allows things to continue to improve, even if at a slower rate.
>>40570456Did we have any resistance movements on the ground here?Use similar tactics we perfected on Gaia. The ground troops will avoid major population centers and focus on infrastructure. You will run the black market and keep the humans well supplied with food, medicine, and other essentials. Your economic activity will also generate intelligence on the population and shape our short-term policy.We now have more advanced droids to aid us. Make use of infiltrator droids to gather intelligence and quietly eliminate those that have a negative effect on the population.
>>40570521True, there is that. Yet I hate to say it but it seems unlikely we'll work on that. There are far more important tech to work on first. >>40570550Yes, We should repeat what we did for Gaia for this system.
>>40570537I completely disagree with this course of action. >>40570547 HereSupporting this course of action as well >>40570550
>>40570537>They are likely to hate the UFW lessYou really don't pay attention at all, do you.They're all the same. One big melting pot of Guild/UFW pirate scum. Cannibals and rapists all of em. Remember the rantings of the lone UGEI soldier Ophion killed, in the battlestation orbiting Ussaihu.
>>40570550>Use similar tactics we perfected on Gaia.That's what Apollo is already saying.But solidifying the hold on Gaia is a higher and more profitable priority in the long term. We want to win the election coming up and keep the mad farm cash flowing after all.
>>40570456Apollo, I think I will create for you... a partner in this endeavor. a 20-BW VI to help you in your endeavors. It should accelerate our work.
>>40570575Yes I do, Apollo along side other trained diplomats can help patch things back together after the inishal ground action is done. much like this post.>>40570550That and it will make the UFW still feel they are helping us with out bleeding them out in combat. We are still trying to have a unified appearance here. If they see human people, it will likely to calm them down better than our uncanny valley droids.
>>40570456>>40570630Supporting. It would also be a good candidate for turning into an AI if it is effective at it job.
>>40570596Maintain economic control is more important than any election. The long term goal is that the humans rule themselves anyways.also, the strain of having to do two planets at once just means we just need to create a larger hierarchy of VI's? Or maybe we need to elevate an AI?
>>40570456Dammit, I missed most of the thread.On the subject of making a shit-ton of bandwidth blocks with surplus materials, would there be any potential in developing new bandwidth-based abilities once we get ridiculous amounts of it?Thinking things like microsecond by microsecond processing in battle, dedicating a few hundred or even thousand bandwidth solely to predicting the actions of some characters or even nations based on study of their history, and conjuring stimuli that will make them respond in a way we approve of.(Aka, we'd use our vast processing power to figure someone out nearly completely, predict all their actions in a given situation, and then use that knowledge to get exactly the responses we want)Essentially starting our path to nigh-omniscient godhood through sheer processing power.Can even have one of the crystal-harvesting planets be equipped with a manufactory for bandwidth blocks only (for efficiency) and have it continuously do nothing but convert minerals into more bandwidth blocks to power our immense, hypercapaity brains as reality slows to a crawl and mere mortals become simple code that reacts to stimuli and outputs the response we desire.(If we can, we might even try to create full simulations of our enemies and test each scenario on them, and try to present different arguments to them to get them to defect, whether it be threatening or promising to help them or their family, or making sure they're re-elected or protected from their enemies, or simply making arguments that appeal to them)
>>40570662And if they vote Ophion for President Of The Year Every Year, we only have more economic control. We ensure no bothersome regulations get in between Apollo and those sweet sweet meatbag creds.Also helps to keep the shell companies opaque by avoiding sunshine laws.
>>40570671Sounds like combat algorithms.I do partially support your idea, but I think the minerals are better spent making around 250,000 large space droids, basically a fuck ton of Gundams. They'll quickly wipe out the frigates and swamp larger ships, and are too small of normal weapons and too durable and numerous for point defenses.Or we can split spending the minerals. Who knows, we just have so many.
>>40570703I guess. Just drive home the point that a vote for the Guild is always a vote for their interests.Our quality of life improvements should make us God of PR. Just make sure they know the extent of what we did.
>>40570709Given the vast asymmetry of minerals-to-gas ratio for the next cycle or two, we can only go for things that are heavily tilted.Like bandwidth blocks had a 25:1 ratio. 2500M, 100G. Maybe less now with advancements? It hasn't come up lately.
>>40570649You didn't even respond to the substance of the post, dumbass.The UFW is just as vilified, don't backpedal.
>>40570730Droids are very mineral intensive. They just lack jump drives. The jump drives are gas expensive.We'll probably need troop carriers and assault carriers to project them into the field.
>>40570537Hm...some common consensus appears to be to treat this situation much like you did Gaia IV, working through your droid police, and diplomats to keep your image from being tarnished, providing food, medicine, and other essentials to those who side with you, and in general gather intelligence on the population and keep down figureheads who are against you.>>40570550>ResistanceMuch of it is chaos at the time, but you can safely assume much of the population is anti Guild right now, but purely out of fear if nothing else.>Apollo's political effort focus>1 Gaia IV (solidify)>2 Sceptri (Stabilize)The () is what he will be doing by working there more than the other place>>40570630"A partner?" He seems somewhat taken aback by this offer, but suddenly seems pleased once more. "Oh, your offer is greatly appreciated Ophion, but you should know I have a number of helpful little V.I. assisting me as we speak. Several hundred in fact." He informs you. "They're all quite simple, of course, and assist me in monitoring all of my businesses. Besides, Palla observes and works under me quite often, as it does for Metis as well. Is that not it's purpose as well?" He questions.>>40570671>Bandwidth based abilitiesMany of those are conveyed, I hope at least, in the bonuses you get for many activities, and how easily it has become for you to do many matters.Once you have sufficient processing power to do...well...all of that, then I think it's safe to say you won't need to 'fight' anyone anymore. Or at least not fairly or for a long time.
>>40570754>1 Gaia IV (solidify)
>>40570741The UFW is likely better at diplomacy then we are. We don't have a great track record you know. This is going to be a long term deal and I would rather we have all hands on deck for it. Besides, it would help lessen the load off of Apollo as well. >>40570754>2 Sceptri (Stabilize)We can finish Gaia later. Sceptri needs help now.
>>40570754>2 Sceptri (Stabilize)Have Apollo run a social media program to get Gaians to directly reach out to scared Sceptrians. Give them good reason not to fear the Guild. And only half of them are Apollo expies.Will an excess of bandwidth help us defend again Thanatos?
>>40570795To a degree I guess. We should look into improved firewall tech for that if Thanatos want to hack us.
>>40570754>2 Sceptri (Stabilize)To Apollo>Do you have a favorite V.I.? I am considering the possibility of raising one up and giving you a full partner. Would that be useful to you?
>>40570748They require gas too. For the fine parts they're made of. I don't think i's not that tilted, lemme check.>>40570754>1 Gaia IV (solidify)
>>40570754>Bandwidth based abilitiesI imagine the returns are diminishing as our bandwidth levels approach mindboggling levels, but it's always fun to see concrete examples of how ridiculously outmatched our enemies are in that department.We should also make it a general policy to always bust people that help us out of prison, and then make sure it becomes widely known that we do, in fact, guarantee your freedom if you aid us. And money. A lot of it.And even combat inplants and family protection (witness protection program, but actually working), if desired, to make it difficult for even a "kill if discovered" policy from the UGEI to be effective since our agents will be so damn hard to kill.Get ALL the opportunists/people in dire straits to serve our cause.
>>40570748Not much more than ships.>>32025850>"In this case, then I simply desire a limit of 500 minerals and 200 gas a cycle. Is this acceptable?"5:2 M:G ratio the last time their costs were mentioned. That's actually more gas heavy than Pilum destroyers, which are currently at a 4:1 ratio.
>>40570833I agree. That is a wise course of action.
>>40570851Hmmm, I guess I just simply forgot about that.I guess we can use a defense of solid excess bandwidth to prevent hacking attacks.
>>40570795>Will excess bandwidth help vs ThanatosIt's sort of an exponential growth matter when it comes to hacking. If I was making a bandwidth scale (this isn't how it actually works but it's close as an example): you have 5 bandwidth, and someone has 10, they have pretty strong hacking over yours. But say you have 500, and they have 1000. You both have very powerful hacking attempts, with theirs only being a little stronger.bandwidth is mostly about reaction time, at lower levels at least. As it gets increasingly higher, you can only 'react' so much faster without going at the speed of light and such.Er.So to make it simple: More=Good vs thanatos but not invulnerability.>>40570824"Raising a V.I.? You mean as I was, then, Ophion?" He asks respectfully, before hesitating and stating. "I do not feel another personality will assist me in my job, I am afraid." He explains briefly, as if he is sad to tell the truth. "Much of my work has become second nature, and, due to your assistance, I am able to perform all of my work in moments." He explains, regarding bandwidth no doubt. "Although I am never to greet a new personality." He adds swiftly after.>>40570833As I detailed above, yes, like that pretty much. and I always encourage you folks to get creative with some of this stuff-it's more fun that way than thinking of it as your numbers are just better after all.The second part, however, about taking advantage of the poor is...interesting. Well, not so much 'advantage' as helping them. I should add that in too.
>>40570894That's a logarithmic scale. It's literally the opposite of an exponential one.Diminishing returns.>>40570240>phase youAlso it's "faze".
>>40570894Sorry Program0, I'm going pack it in. It's gotten too late for me to keep awake. But thank you for running tonight. Next Friday would have been bad, but if the next thread is on the 26. there will be no problem.
>>40570894Thanks for clarifying.I guess I currently support splitting spending between bandwidth and droids.
>>40570754>Also the winner is Sceptri, to stabilize it for now, while Gaia IV is handled on its own (and by your agents and the like for you). It will be handled much like Gaia IV was, with the help of your new droids, Apollo's experience, and also providing opportunities the UGEI simply did not.>Sceptri stabilization set in motion. (Attempt at least).>Any final thoughts or shall I close out this thread with a little bit of research discussion?
>>40570894Hmm... So anons what are your thoughts on perhaps making Apollo a partner in crime? It certainly wouldn't make a massive difference immediately, but I imagine he would be able to train a new one faster than he learned by himself...Partly, I'm thinking we might be better off increasing the numbers of our more socially orientated A.I. I also think Apollo would do well with someone likeminded with which he can bounce off ideas.
>>40570894Yes, good humans. Join the GIDF and earn your six gorillion credits a cycle.
>>40570935Just small things like putting all the human staff in the prison in the jail cells and unprocessed well behaved prisoners roam free around the prison, to solidify that the Guild controls the prison now.And start smuggling the most disruptive prisoners back to the UGEI with a construction droid and as much material that can take with them.
>>40570927Huh.Well, I learned a new word today. My bad.Damn it, it's too late at night for rapid typing!>>40570928I suspected people might start dropping out soon. I am attempting to squeeze in one last bit before I pack it in.>>40570988Ah, don't worry, with the records to the prison you're able to identify all the non dangerous lot (That aren't mentally damaged at least) and send them off to Gaia IV, UFW, or UGEI wherever they think they can slip off to. Everyone else is...dealt with as needed.
>>40570894So Apollo's focus isn't infinite enough to handle 2planets lmao 2planets yet?>>40570935Have our junior space scouts report on their Nacia expedition.
>Tech Acquired: Dreadnought blueprints, Advanced Android bodies, Chemistry IIDreadnought blueprints: Finally, it has taken some time and a great deal of study, but you’ve managed to identify the specific ways in which Battleships are created that allow them to hold together despite their own mass. This knowledge means you will be able to build far larger and more powerful ships. While such large ships are generally stronger and more powerful, they’re usually better against other, large ships and struggle when fighting large swarms of smaller ships, assuming they’re on the same tech level. Metis tells you that, while larger ships may be possible, it would require more indepth research into physics and ways to...tweak the rules of such things. All merely in theory of course.Advanced Android Bodies: Your understanding of how a robot moves and functions on many different stress levels has allowed you to find ways to create far larger and more devastating droids of war. While not limited to this, this research allows you to create droids the size of buildings, and even some smaller ships at their biggest, while also making very small droids as well.Chemistry II: Your knowledge of chemistry, the bonds and results from so many possible components reaches what humans themselves have managed to find out, allowing you to not only make more effective explosives and improved gas yield, but also allows you to go further than humans have gone with the subject.>If you have any questions, Metis will happily answer them.>And also, suggest research to fill the now empty slotsPrimary:Secondary:Minor:
>>40571036Primary: Purge ProtocolSecondary: Crystal CommunicationMinor: Hacking Defense.
>>40571036Black Box Redundancy MechanismsAdvanced FirewallsPropaganda III
>>40571036With Advanced Android Bodies and the new research we got from the prison, we are now able to construct droids that are effective at fighting frigates, correct?
>>40571030It is not, no. But mostly because there are so many minor things he handles personally to ensure they're done properly, since propaganda and personal image are such fragile things in human society.Think of it like"I could have the robot delivery man deliver all the glass statues...but I want to get the statues delivered unshattered if at all possible."
>>40571036What's the next step in robot miniaturization, Metis?I don't see one listed.Suggestions:Personal Cloaking Devices (we predator now)Polarized WeaponryBlack Box Redundancy
>>40570894Can we mayhap tempt Apollo with the concept of parenthood?This isn't just a partner, but someone he will raise from the ground up, and show how the world works, and watch it develop its own thoughts in response.And that it would not assist him in his job is blatantly false if we have to make a choice of where he should spend his focus. If he cannot have two points of focus with equal efficiency as one, then someone else will be needed to focus on this new planet.Mayhap we should raise one for each planet with a population we need to administer, and have him in charge of the overall effort and policy?
>>40571068While human shaped androids large enough to fight frigates with their weaponry are less efficient in design vs other frigates...yes.Yes you can have gundums, consciousness anon.
>>40571036Primary: Black Box Redundancy MechanismsSecondary: Advanced FirewallsMinor: Propaganda III
>>40570928Take care, fluffy.I'll get around to reading the rest of your stories before too long.
>>40570988>And start smuggling the most disruptive prisoners back to the UGEI with a construction droid and as much material that can take with them.That's beautiful, anon, but we should probably put some kind of tracker and way of controlling them, we don't want people blaming a mass-murdering attack on regular joes on prisoners that we released.
>>40571087I just remember that we have droid production capacity of 1,000,000 per cycle. 500,000 for larger droids.If we divide that in half again for even larger droids, that's 250,000 space droids, a very scary number.
>>40571077"It will be an object of study I will pursue before too long, Ophion. With the newest breakthroughs in android size, stepping further down is likely the next step.">>40571150Ah, I see what you're getting at now. Unfortunately, I might need to say that space born droids of that calibur and size count as frigates and must be built from ship docks instead of droid factories.Maybe. I'm not certain how effective they'd be yet. I'm too tired to make a firm decision at this time.>WinnersP: Black Box RedundancyS: Advanced FirewallsM: Propaganda III
>>40571036How small droids can we make now?>>40571066>>40571053WantPrimary: Pimary Black Box Redundancy MechanismsSecondary: Advanced FirewallsMinor: Hacking Defense>>40571077We only really need the polarized weapons to fight against one specific threat that is still well contained, do we not? And we can make do against those by simply using different weapons with our bots (kinetic and thermal weapons, for example), no need to waste research time when we're on a deadline.
>>40571166And Thanatos said Ophion wasn't eternal.Well who's speaking in a flat emotionless monotone now, Thanny?
>>40571182Insect size and the like, where as before it was cat/dog sized.Next step would be...micro sized, I guess? Nano technology is funny business man.
>>40571182There IS no subject called "Hacking Defense."Anon made shit up. Never listen to anon. Trust me I'm anon.
>>40571198How about that search for Mol's parents.Don't you want to unironically roll for old people dementia?
>>40571166I wonder I someone samefagged? Oh well.Well I tried breaking the game. Lol.
>>40571198If such is the case, I'd like to propose that we flood the interior of our ships with simple ant-sized working bots that will continuously repair, perform maintenance and literally hold the ship together in battle if necessary.The corridors of new models of ship that we create should be further collapsed to only allow passage by these insectoid bots, further reducing their target profile, their sheer hardness, and making them virtually unboardable.They can probably also be used for manufacturing to great efficiency, and make a LOT smaller factories that create bigger things one part at a time.If we can make some of them construction bots that can create more such construction bots (or tiny factories that create more such construction bots) we might be able to smuggle them deep into UGEI space, even beyond the great portal, and then begin a Spore or RTS-like technology tree climb on a lot of planets to create bigger and stronger gear to supply our rebels with, including eventually created hidden android factories.In short, INSECT SIZED DROID INVASION EVERYWHERE (secretly)!
>>40571210Goddamn you anon, taking advantage of poor defenseless anons.
>>40571210>>40571253Sorry, I was that anon. Too tired to remember that it was Advanced Firewalls.So tired now...
>>40571230More than I can put into words, anon. But I just cannot bring myself to do it without laughing and throwing my dice across the room.Or, well, since this is 4chan, throwing my laptop across the room.>>40571247I worry that more often than I say. But there's not much to be done about it now, since most have already gone to bed I feel.Oh, that reminds me.[End Thread]Thank you all for joining me as long as you did and man this thread went on forever didn't it?I hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did, sorry for delays and as always I'll be around if you need me. You know till I pass out and such.
>>40571262I may find it in my reactor to forgive you.
>>40571267Yay, now we can go to sleep now.
>>40571248Oh god nanotechnology is so great. Even when it's only tiny and not nano. I'm going to say that your droids already, sort of do that, in the sense that these ant droids replace your old ones in terms of building and the like. Not necessarily cheaper, but a bit faster (sadly still takes a cycles worth for our needs though).Don't worry though anon. Nanobots are around the bend. I can smell em from here.>>40571278yay.Also I hate street sign capacha
>>40571267I got up at 8:00 AM in Sweden and noticed it was still running, caught up with it only recently, and enjoyed it a great deal.AND IT WAS AWESOME!The entire thing makes me want to sing the lego song.I have a question though, what tech do we get immediately from the advanced androids?(If nothing else, some of the applications simply involve manning our ships with these smaller bots instead of bigger ones).Will our production speed increase massively now that we can have our droids flow over the ships and blocks we're constructing and assembling the pieces in a matter of hours, if not minutes, making construction of the actual components the only time-intensive part left, with assembly being effortless and near-instant?(And we might be able to instead of stockpiling droids or ships that are ready, we stockpile a shit-ton of general purpose parts that are assembled and dismantled near-instantly depending on the nature of the threat we face?)And can we start a huge construction order for bandwidth blocks?
>>40571315Glad you enjoyed it. This is my very favorite quest.My second favorite was Magical Girl Hunter Quest.
second part of >>40571315was meant for Program0 >>40571298Derp.
>>40571315Oh, shit, really? I didn't realize people were still catching up from the old threads, heh, that feels good to know.you're too kind to me, but thank you, and I am happy to hear that it's been so enjoyable so far. I really hope I can keep making it enjoyable for everyone involved too.>Tech from advanced androidI have yet to work it out, but my guess is I am going to put something that's a stepping stone to nano tech. Maybe micro bots? Or...something like that? I really want nano tech to be an end game tech, since I know as soon as I open that can of worms, there will basically be no limit to what you can do heh.Effectively right now, Advanced Androids gives you much bigger (and smaller) android models you can use for specific missions. They really start affecting production and such in the next tier I think, where you'll not just research models, but the capability to coordinate and control so many smaller droids on a huge scale. This is more a balancing thing to keep things from going nuts too early than anything else I admit, though.Bandwidth blocks take a lot of construction though. One at a time, for now until you unlock infinite building bots I suppose.>>40571323I should read more quests.
>>40571247Ah, just wanted to say, it wasn't a samefag. I saw anons post>>40571066and decided I liked them so I posted this >>40571091I mean obviously theres no proof, but I figured I'd say something.
>>40571267And thank you for running Program. It is always a pleasure.
>>40571393Thank you all for playing, always happy to for such fine folks.
>>40571360Caught up with this thread, as I was late. Pretty sure people are still catching up from older ones though, they are great reads.>This is more a balancing thing to keep things from going nuts too early than anything else I admit, though.They seem basically like the "micro" bots from Big Hero 6 (youtube link for ideas of what they can do).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1UhoQqosnYThings constructed out of bugbots would obviously be fragile, but an amorphous enemy would essentially only be vulnerable to massive damage, and the potential for assembly of components is immense.When we get nanobots, it's less about having a shit-ton of tiny robots, and more about being able to craft every single ship, weapon and droid perfectly down to the molecular level and being able to infiltrate every single civilization that does not have an effective nanobot counter.(They're massively vulnerable to flame, but so are bacteria, and fighting bacteria with flamethrowers has very limited success due to their invisibility)In essence, bugbots are about speedy manufacturing and being able to repair ships VERY quickly in combat, they essentially go way beyond organic in terms of self-repair abilities, and anything of a similar size too. Regular droids can probably benefit from quite a few of them to get self-repair as well if they're the size of ants.Microbots will probably be about excellent speed manufacturing, as chemicals can be applied to treat metals and materials on the microscopic level.Nanobots?Now everything we make will be absolutely flawless and even our microbots will have their own internal system of nanobots that gives them self-repair abilities.
>>40571360>I should read more quests.Some of the best reads I've ever had were quests, not fanfics or books. They make shockingly good reading.
>>40571513The ones you have now? No no, nothing quite that advanced, you have small droids but they can't coordinate on that level, or scale without a few more steps in the right direction. That's straight up nano bot tech there, micro first is a logical step though I imagine.Trust me if they were that good I'd have put a big fat flashing sign on it that said so. But they probably will boost up your ability to repair ships, the ant repair bot idea was a nice one after all. Also, I think the idea of putting nanobots in nanobots just broke my brain.>>40571530Believe it or not I agree with you, and like most of my favorite books or fanfics, I have yet to finish many of them heh.Unfortunately some of them will forever go unfinished too...
Late to the game, but thanks for running man. Enjoyable as always.