character sheet: http://pastebin.com/rZQ8vVBdholdings: http://pastebin.com/m33m5nZ5previous threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=crusader+questThread 5 didn't archive fully: http://archive.moe/tg/thread/34542810/#q34542810Twitter: https://twitter.com/KoblOfSecond Verse, Part 7It is the Year of Our Lord, 1134.You are Wilhelm, Lord of Ramla.And you had just enjoying the company of your woman, Chihirizahd. Had, because a revelation has appeared before you. Dropping your pleasure like a rock and crushing it underneath. And it showed on your face. You could tell from the look of unmistakable pleasure on hers. Mathilde, your little sister. She sat on a chair very daintily. Legs together and hands upon her knees, sitting forward. Her hair carefully tied into a pair of long black braids that trailed over her shoulders, threaded with red ribbon. Wearing a modest dress of white and blue.The sun had browned her near dark as a Turk. She was a good distance away from where she should be and where you had last seen her, very comfortable in the kitchen of your father's house with one of the yard cats on her knee.And for the first time since you had come to this land you felt yourself to be truly disarmed. Completely lost for words.Mohmed still seemed beside himself. Looking from her to you as if you were expected to provide explanation. The best you could do is find a seat. Helped to do so by Chihirizahd's guiding hand."Well, that's a warm welcome," Mathilde said, crossing her ankles and sitting back in her chair. Her eyes cast about the room. "Where is that squire of yours?" she asked.
"Our brother," you said, "Is fulfilling his duties." In truth, you weren't sure. But you trusted Hugo further than most thirteen year old boys. No doubt where ever he was he had a good reason for being there. The thought of it reminded you that you were in need of a second squire. You would need to arrange that soon."Why are you here?" you asked, turning the question around on her.Mathilde's brows rose. "Why not?" was all she offered, taking an apple from the tray beside her chair. She bit off a crisp mouthful, munched it with a gnash of teeth."At least tell me you came with an escort," you said. It was a long and dangerous road to Jerusalem.Mathilde's answer was an annoyingly vague shrug. Details were not forth coming. "All that matters is that I am here," she said, "And lucky to have found you. Why, I thought you'd be in a prison cell."You had been, not all that long ago. Not that she needed to know that.Before you could get another word out Sir Etienne entered, his squire a step behind. His eyes drifted from Mathilde to you and he gave a disapproving frown. Whatever he assumed about the sight he did not speak on it. "My lord, the Count of Foix sends his fond farewell. He takes to ship this very hour, to return to his lands and prepare for the day you spoke of. He leaves you with a gift." Etienne drew from his belt a small emerald ring. Placed it in your hand. Then he looked to your sister again, placed his hand upon his sword hilt and retreated to the doorway, eyes switching between the two of you as before. The little ring was set with a green emerald stone. A very expensive little gift. You put it away."Making friends as ever?" Mathilda said both statement and question, her gaze lingering on Chihirizahd's disheveled and barely dressed figure.> does father know you are here?> you must go home immediately!> it's good to see you Matty
>>39781994>> does father know you are here?Also, give her a earchewing, she went to Jerusalem from Trier. Alone. Does she have any idea how dangerous it is?Bandits, Raiders and Pirates, rapists and con-men not to mention illness
>>39781994>> does father know you are here?Girl you better have a good reason to be here
>>39781994>> it's good to see you Matty>>now why the fuck are you here you crazy bint?
>>39781994>> does father know you are here?Bitch don't give none, don't get none.
>>39781994>> does father know you are here?
>wonder why are being so mean to our sister>remember she treats Hugo like shitCarry on.
Love you but being a poor Merican with work tomorrow I must sleep, try not to get us killed Aussie bastards.
>>39782178Or just worried about her.
>>39782194Dont worry, Europe will take care of it
>>39781994> does father know you are here?> it's good to see you Matty
Well lets see how suprised she will be when she finds out Wilhelm is a lord now
Wait. How on earth did she even get in here ?
>>39782506She sailed a boat into the castle ?
>>39782550Poor guards never stood a chance
>>39781961Nooo! Now I have to stay up!That being said good to see you man
"Does father know you are here?" you asked, breathing heat in every word. The man must be having a fit if he didn't God knows he'd find a way to blame you for it.The hitch of a breath she took was your answer."He doesn't not know I'm here," was her attempt to be clever, accompanied by a smile a more naive man would call winsome. Then her real answer came, drawn by your lowered brow and unimpressed face. "He thinks I'm studying at a convent near Worms."Idiot. You thought as much. The danger you alone experienced traveling that distance, a grown man with company, all armed for the journey. A lone girl of barely teen years could have been raped, murdered or dragged off into slavery. She was damned lucky. But then, that was the word most used to describe her. Lucky. And you let her know that by the way you rested up a raised fist, and drummed the arm of your chair."Well aren't you going to ask why?" she said, her voice now strung a little higher and a little less pleased with herself."I'll ask, but the answer had best be a good one," you replied.She glanced at her feet very quickly before looking up at you through her long eyelashes. Damned girl had learned a girl's tricks playing to your father, and you couldn't say they were ineffective on you. "I heard you had been imprisoned by the king of Jerusalem," she said, "And came to argue for your freedom."Idiot. You thought as much. Beautiful idiot. Garbled news must have spread about his imprisonment and release. You hadn't thought it would have flown so far or so fast. "I did not come alone," she added with her hands knotting up in her skirts. "Uncle Herman escorted me." Then with a much small voice she said. "I'm not stupid you know. And there were others. Klaus and Marlene, Sir Hector the Saxon, Kissing Joan."
>>39782606"Foolish, at least," you said. Your Uncle Sir Herman was only a relation by friendship rather than blood. In truth you didn't trust that fat old man further than you could throw his fat old face, least of all with your sister's virtue. These others sound a motley selection. You didn't trust them yet either.But your sister appeared to be in sound body and mind.You sighed. "Well, there's nothing I can about that now," you said. That made her smile, an infectious grin you barely managed to resist."Well, it's a pleasure to meet my lord's dear sister," Chirizahd knelt before your sister, "My lady.""Hmph," she looked down on your slave as if she couldn't decide just what she was looking at. But her attention was soon back on you. "So, brother, how have you been? How did you get out of prison? Why did the guards call you Lord Wilhelm?"She was abuzz with questions. So much that she didn't notice Hugo enter. The boy looked disheveled, having had little sleep, and with a tale to tell.When he looked up and saw his own half-sister his face knotted uncomfortably and he stepped back a pace, beside Jacques and near behind Sir Etienne. You remembered the two of them had never got along.> answer your sister> ask after your brother
>>39782621> ask after your brotherMorning Hugo
>>39782621> ask after your brotherSet the pace. Let her know that you run things.
>>39782621> ask after your brother
>>39782621>> ask after your brother
"Hugo!" you change the subject, drawing your brother into these little skirmish of conversation, "You look half the devil. What on earth did you get up to last night?"You saw Mathilde's face go from crestfallen to huffy, cheeks puffed out in annoyance. Your brother came forward with a dry mouthed cough, knuckle rubbing the soft gold down on his chin. The boy was starting to get facial hair. Time to get him a good sharp razor."Not much my lord," he said with unusual formality, "Jacques and I had some drinks with the other squires and a wrestling game was had."Bored young men who had no girls to impress were often prone to such things. You remembered your own squire games. They rarely ended well for you."And the victor?" you asked.Hugo shrugged. "Few remember clear details. All we have are our bruises."You laughed. The laugh was a little strained. Hugo gave an uncomfortable smile as you rolled your eyes over to the very unimpressed Mathilde. She sat back in her chair, hands upon the arm rests and all but glaring at you."He's always been your favourite," she said with an angry pout. You felt a groan in your stomach at that. Then she sat forward. "If I'm wanted you might find me at the Lion's Head," she spoke before slipping out of her chair. As she was about to leave she glared at you over her shoulder. "If I'm wanted." She said again.> let her go> stop her
>>39782847>> stop herThe fuck do you think you're doing?
>>39782847>> stop herShe doesn't just get to walk away.
>>39782847>> stop herShe is staying with us. We just have to do our business in the city before we head back home to Ramla
>>39782847> stop herI thought you wanted to know why people keep calling me Lord William.
>>39782847>> stop her
We should probably also introduce her to our retinue
You grab her by the arm and pull her back. She casts you an outraged look, squirms in your grip. Near drives her elbow into your gut but for the fact you catch it."Hold still Matty," you ordered, pulling her close. She wiggled a little as you wrapped your arms about her, but eventually she gave up with a frustrated little huff. "You are a member of my family and thus my responsibility. You go no where."She was looking about the room, face blushing deep with embarrassment.You kissed the top of her head. "And you are my little sister above all else. Fool I'd be to let you out of my sight." If anything that only furthered her embarrassment. She looked like she might cry tears of frustration. Still, you loosened your grip. Allowed her to slide out of it."I am a lord now," you said, "And have a few small matters to attend to before we depart. When we leave the city shortly, and you will be with me when we go, it will be to my holdings in Ramla." She was still red faced but you got a nod out of her. "Now. You'll not run away or cause any trouble. You'll do as I say."Again, still frustrated but she gave a nod.> take her under your supervision> leave her under Sir Etienne's supervision> leave her under Chihirizahd's supervision> nominate someone else to guard her
>>39782981>> leave her under Chihirizahd's supervision
>>39782981>> leave her under Chihirizahd's supervisionMaybe put Maggie as her handmaiden for now ?
>>39782981> take her under your supervisionhave Sir Etienne come along
>>39782981leaving her with our sex slave/personal attendant/spy is probably a bad idea.
>>39782981> take her under your supervision
>>39783025Think the prefered term is "Personal Assistant"
>>39782981>leave her under Chihirizahd's supervision
>>39782981>> take her under your supervision
You decide you can't trust her outside your immediate eyesight. Ruffling her head, a thing you know she finds annoying, you also offer her a smile. "You'll be riding with me today," you said.Her expression softened a little, a bit of the red faded from her face. She gave a nod that seemed happily given for once. "I shall act in a manner becoming of a lord's sister," she said with a proper little curtsy. She really could turn it on and off. A fact that made her more a handful.You instruct Sir Etienne to prepare your household for departure. Assemble your men, get them in good order. He nodded and went with Mohmed to execute your orders. Leaving you for the moment with just your family. Chihirizahd turned back for the bedroom."I shall pack away your things," she said before disappearing into the chamber. Mathilde frowned after her.You had to do a number of things before leaving. Visit 'Stylianos' and be sure 'he' was also ready to leave and bid farewell to Lord Gerard. Not a large number of tasks to be sure, but both important.Your first order of business:> see Lord Gerard> see Stylianos
>>39783148> see Lord Gerard
>>39783148Shouldnt we first arrange the betrothal between Hugo and Joyce's sister, then talk with the ASsassin and then finally come to an agreement about trade caravans to Ramla with Sir Froggy, but let us first.> see StylianosWould be embarresing to say goodbye and then still linger in his castle
>>39783174>Shouldnt we first arrange the betrothal between Hugo and Joyce's sisterI didn't think this was an agreed upon thing. I wouldn't worry too much. Joyce's traditional housing area is in Jaffa, where you'll be heading next.Thanks for reminding me about that horse trading thing. It got lost in my notes.
>>39783204Read the former threads anon. The greek who promised to help to keep her lands
>>39783204Stylianos is the woman masquerading as a man looking to build foreign support for her claim to lands in the Eastern Roman Empire. She doesn't know you know she's a girl. Has an English bodyguard.
>>39783148> see Stylianos
Hey, before we leave, we should go sex up the brothel lady as thanks.
>>39783148> see StylianosLets hope she hasnt gotten into problems like we did with that thief
>>39783277You mean Lady Lucca?>>39783148> see Stylianos
>>39783290I don't know anybody's names!
>>39783309Good thing i can remember them all for you then anon
>>39783313On that note, weren't you working on a character list HF?
>>39783309It's okay, even drunk me can give a rambling explanation on almost anyone you bring up.
>>39783369Orlando! Traitorous shit, or shitty traitor?
>>39783374Good friend with poor judgement and the worst luck
>>39783374Orlando the traitorous shit, made shitty decision of supporting the king instead of the queen and threw us under the fucking bus. But he did save our life and is in a pretty shitty position so we can probably forgive and forget and gain a loyal retainer.
You decide your first order of business is to call on the so named 'Stylianos'. With your squire for company and sister at hand you leave your chambers. A few passing men-at-arms offer you a salute as you pass, and servants likewise stood aside to give you the floor. It was good to be so respected. These people knew you by sight and reputation, and knew you were a man that was obligated respect. A far cry from the freelance that had stood outside the gates and taken Sidon's coin without even remembering much of your face.Stylianos was housed in rooms far from yours. 'He' was no guest of great importance, though still deserving of some quarter. You knocked upon the door, and it was opened a crack by the tall Englishman.Ethelred was of the Old English. Most likely born in Greece, child to one of those dispossessed nobles that had refused to bend the knee to King William after the Conquest. He seemed a man filled with natural suspicion. A valuable friend to have considering his master's intrigue. When he saw that it was you he opened the door fully so that you might enter. Another chamber within.You knocked and a voice answered "Who is it?" The door creaked inward, giving you a chance to see a hint of flesh hurriedly covered by a tunic."The Lord of Ramla," the Englishman replied.Stylianos came out with a flushed face, smiling wide. Her mask was loose in that moment, very much a woman in her pleasure of your visit."Oh my lord, a pleasure!" she took your hand very daintily, but as she shook it her masculine forbearance returned, "A pleasure." She spoke lower, pumped your hand and clasped your elbow. A good manly handshake. When she peaked around your shoulder she met eyes with Mathilde, who blushed deeply.
>>39783430"M'lord," she said to Stylianos with a slight dip. Stylianos merely nodded in turn."I thought to tell you we had plans to leave this day," you said.'He' nodded. "Yes, of course. I'll prepare my things so we might accompany you.""There's no rush," you said, "I've business still to attend to. Both here and in the city."Stylianos gave a tired smile. "I am over keen to be gone. Every where I go it feels my steps are shadowed by my uncle. He will have no luck, I lost his vultures back in Acre." Ethelred nodded, making much of the axe he held. No doubt the man had put a bit of force into that. "We shall meet you and yours in the courtyard." He nooded to you and then to your sister, who blushed again, before retreating into 'his' chamber.Before you left Ethelred took you by the arm. His old lined face cracked a little, some warmth entering that battle damaged old map. "You do a rare thing," he said, "You do us a kindness." That was all he had to say before he released you, closing the door on your back.Your other affairs were as follow: bid farewell to Lord Gerard, and then visit Sir Matthias to discuss the horse trading operation he had mentioned. And perhaps when you were in the city, a last minute chance to make some purchases.Either way, enough to keep you occupied until afternoon.> go see Lord Gerard> go to the city first and visit Sir Froggy
>>39783444> go see Lord Gerard
>>39783444>> go see Lord GerardSay our goodbyes then head for Sir Froggy
>>39783444> go see Lord Gerard>"Hey, you ever think about cutting the jews some slack?"
Sorry got caught up with something.
>>39783444>> go see Lord Gerard
>>39783174I really hope that the marriage isn't necessary. Perhaps it's just wishful thinking, but I'm enjoying the freedom Wilhelm gives Hugo, and I think it would just be a shame if things were suddenly decided like that without him weighing in his little brother's input on the matter.But if that's how it turns out, then so be it.
>>39783444>go see Lord Gerard´
>>39783650Its more a political marriage than anything else, besides there will go atleast 3 years before they will be married. A lot of things can change in that time. Also it would be good to have some land back in France that isnt at risk of being taken by muslims at every passing moment.Also if we dont we might piss off Joyce a high ranking Templar and we really cant afford to piss off the Templars.
You decide to finish with your business at the castle.The guards did not bar your way when you arrived, rather they thought you were expected.Lord Gerard was in his private chambers, enjoying a performance from Marabru. It seemed the man had changed service yet again, from Toulouse to Foix to Sidon all in as many days. He played upon a lute, a slow tune that Gerard hummed along to off-key. The man had no gift for music. You had found Gerard was in large company in that regard. Still, before speaking you stopped to consider Marcabru's ability.The man really was something of a savant. Even in so casual a setting playing such a nothing piece his performance was skillful. A pleasant morning's piece. Gerard considered his keep outside, looking out onto the waters.He turned slow. His large, owlish face seemed thoughtful, near sad."My friend," he started, and immediately you felt uncomfortable. He sat, and motioned for you to do the same. He did nothing to acknowledge your sister, neither did he send her away. Across his belly he crossed his hands. "Peer out that window, boy, and tell me what you see." He directed your squire. Hugo seemed visibly discomforted. He crossed to the arrow slit and peered out."A large ship," he said, "Bearing colours and arms I don't recognise. Greek I think." He looked back, you could see he was a flutter of nerves. Your own stomach was turning."That," Lord Gerard, "Is a ship belonging to Theodore Komnenos. Have you heard of him?"You shook your head. Lord Gerard smiled. "He is something of a pirate. And a general. And a man of business. Above all else he is a man of influence, and incredibly dangerous."
>>39783683"And what does this have to do with me?" you asked.Gerard cast out a hand. "You? You are a peripheral interest. A friend I seek to shelter as best that I can from being caught in a powerful storm. No, this has to do with that Greek bitch. The one who is calling herself 'Stylianos'. Rather, let us call her by her name. Zoe Doukas Komnenos. A runaway bride. You see our rather terrifying friend in the harbour is her betrothed. Her uncle as well, but the Romans keep different ways to our own." You felt your stomach hollow out. "You see Theodore is looking to become Caesar. In time I think he plans to become Emperor. And the truly awful thing is, he very really could. The man commands ten thousand soldiers, and a small fleet. So he is a very practical friend to have."You felt your heart beating in your chest, your ears."His men are already at the gate," Gerard said, "I truly hope you don't do something foolish. It is your most unfortunate habit. Only the grace of god has seen it turn to your fortune."You look to the doorway.> rush to help Stylianos/Zoe> do nothing
>>39783701> rush to help Stylianos/Zoe>"Whatever, nerd."
>>39783701>> rush to help Stylianos/ZoeStupid sexy Chrivalry
>>39783701>> rush to help Stylianos/Zoe"My cherished friend, I thank you for your words but I am unable to just stand by for I have already given my word. My apologies in advance if I break anything. Farewell."
>>39783701>"Don't worry, I'll go apprehend the serpent now."
>>39783701>"Lord Gerard, you were a gracious host, that is, to me at most."
>>39783701Get Hugo to help Zoe while we try to find a way around this."But if I may say so, does this Caesar truly look toward our enemies or does is he actually aiming somewhere closer to home?"
>>39783701>"I truly hope you don't do something foolish. It is your most unfortunate habit. Only the grace of god has seen it turn to your fortune."I'm sorry Gerard, you're a bro.But the Bard!Knight must go where The Dick leads.>> rush to help Stylianos/Zoe
>>39783701>> rush to help Stylianos/ZoeGod help us.
>>39783701>"OH MY GOD, IT'S ANOTHER ASSASSIN!">run
>>39783768One of us needs to keep Imouto out of hostaging distance.
>>39783783Hey, we could actually go by the assassin that's in jail, steal his clothes, then "kidnap" Zoe.
>>39783793Both our sister and brother are right here. I only said to send our brother away while we continue talks with Gerard or find someone else to consult about this. Technically our sister would still be following us.
>>39783806No need for his in particular, any would do. ...sounds like a job for Hugo, Master of Disguise though.
Iovetta is a goddess.
>>39783817Lady Lucca could maybe help us smuggle her away>>39783822Not how you spell Chiri
>>39783822No, she's a saint, you filthy pagan.
Are we sending Hugo? Or is he coming with us? Because he needs to be there.
Hey, if Hugo's with us, will we be able to DOUBLE DUEL people?
>>39783825>ChiriUnfortunately, I disagree. She's a good character, but she feels more like a tool than a person.
"Well then I'm sorry to disappoint you," you said with a strained grin. You stood, and drew your Damascus sword. "My thanks for your warning. You have been a gracious host and friend to me in this. I ask one thing. Protect my sister until my return."Gerard's eyebrows lowered, but so did his chin in a nod. You strode for the door and flung it open, Hugo a step behind you. Mathilde could only watch as you dashed out the door.It was a matter of minutes rather than hours. You rushed back the way you came, running at full tilt. Men and women both low and high had to duck aside to avoid the pair of you. You turned a corner, coming upon the corridor that hosted the woman you'd known as 'Stylianos'. Men were at her door, Three of them. Unfamiliar men in purple cloaks, with long handled axes and tight scaled chest armour. Beards of red and yellow, they turned at your arrival and spoke to each other in Nordic tongue. One pointed your way.The door had a large cleft in it. The efforts of an axe stroke. Only a few more would smash it in completely."We are on Roman business," one hooted at you in Greek, "Varangians. If you dare, step forward."A clear challenge to fight.> step forward (fight)> attempt to stall them> do nothing
>>39783840...she's shown just as much if not way more personality than Iovetta.
>>39783840YOU'RE A TOOL
>>39783822>almost ntr'd Wil>goddess
>>39783839>DOUBLE DUELYou mean look threatening and charm bystanders while Hugo, God of War duels people?
>>39783840Anon. Think about it.Started out on the bottom selling her bodyFall in love with a higher ranking man.Guide and advice him and help him in his rise to power.She is pretty much pictured
>>39783844> step forward (fight)>"We are on Ramlan business. Germans. If you wish to live, leave this place."
>>39783845I'm just stating what I think. She's good for what she does.
>>39783844Can we convince them we are just passing by? Get close enough to strike?
>>39783844>> attempt to stall themThis is Jerusalem. Rome has no authority here.
>>39783844> attempt to stall themWe're not Hugo, here. Play to our strengths. We don't have the advantage anyway.
I miss Solobro.
>>39783844>> step forward (fight)Well Hugo's with us.WRRAAAAAGHHHHHH
>>39783857>>"We are on Ramlan business. Germans. If you wish to live, leave this place."Top kek. Voting for this.
>>39783844> attempt to stall them"As custom dictates, I am obliged to ensure the safety of my companions and be informed of any actions that may effect my honor. Or does the Varangian Guard not acknowledge even the most basics of customs? "
>>39783866Wilhelm's always been one to up and kill somebody if they endanger his friends.
>>39783865Wil is Liu BeiHugo is Zhang FeiSolomon is Guan Yu
>>39783884But they are 3 heavily armed Varangian against Hugo and Wilhelm. think it might be better to stall them.
>>39783884True. He's just not all that good at it.
>>39783892The solution to your problem:>"HEY, YOU LIMEY PIECE OF SHIT, GET OUT HERE AND DEFEND YOUR CHARGE!"
>>39783844>> attempt to stall them
>>39783899We're Cow CowSolomon is Zhang Liao Hugo is Xiahou Dun
>>39783891Nah, Wil is Sun Quan.
>>39783854Theodora is best empress
What's Hugo's War?
>>39783907Hugo will lose his eye now.
Damn Greeks, running around as if they own the place
>>39783949Losing an eye isn't so bad, anon.
"I am Lord Wilhelm of Ramla, German by birth. I have given my word to protect the woman behind those doors. I give you this chance to leave with your lives""A German's word is iron and blood," one of the Varangians said in that lilting voice of theirs, "Respect." They saluted with their axes. "But we are Varangians, and no less oathbound."The three had their axes in hand and you felt a hot train of fear ripple up your spine. Three aside filled the corridor. Big men, armoured well with long handles on those axes. You guessed them to be Danes. Experienced killers and half-pagan.Hugo seemed a slender shadow at your side. His own sword drawn. Neither of you were armoured. A fight would not last long."Are Varangians the sort to attack innocent women?" you asked.One of them laughed. "We are whatever the Romans need us to be. From here to Ragnarok, we are Death."Your throat was tight, your mouth dry. For a second time you struggled for words."Are-"But your question wasn't finished when the door burst open."Alfred! Britannia!" Ethelred bellowed, his axe a blur. One of the Danes was dead already beneath the Anglish axe, his head half removed at the back of the neck, flopping down onto his chest. The other two staggered back in surprise. Ethelred's axe bounced from helm and turned to bite the arm of his neighbour. He was a flurry, driving his fellow Varangians back. You could only gape at it.He cleared a space before the door and 'Stylianos' dashed out. Zoe that is, saddle bags over her shoulders and face pale.She came to you, stumbled and fell. You grabbed her by the elbow. Drew her up and onto her feet.Damn it. You saw men fill in the corridor mouth. Not Varangians, but common Roman soldiers armed with spears. You looked the other way to a clear path.> stay and fight> take Zoe and run
>>39783994>> take Zoe and runWe are not armored.
>>39783994>> take Zoe and run
>>39783994> take Zoe and run> also an axe
>>39783994>> take Zoe and runGodspeed Alfred. Die well.
>>39784016His name is not Alfred... Its Ethelred
>>39784020He just said it was Alfred.
>>39784035It was his battle cry. refering to the old English king Alfred.
>>39783994> take Zoe and run>>39784035I believe that's his king.
>>39784035This is the guy he is refering to.
You took Zoe by the hand and began to run.Dread beyond fear filled you as they rounded the other corner. Spear points dropped, Roman soldiers keeping rank. There was no escape."Oh God. Oh God!" Zoe cried, hugging herself hard as her legs gave out beneath her. Hot tears poured from her eyes. "Oh Jesu Cristi! Jesus Christ!" She pulled at her shirt and almost doubled over.Purple cloaked soldiers broke rank to let an armoured man walk in. He wore a spectacular helm, fashioned like a roaring lion. His chest plate was wrought with gold and ivory, a match for the scabbard that held his sword. He had a dark face and dark beard streaked with red, like rust. And he had eyes that had nothing inside them. Not hope, nor love, nor fear, nor hate, not pleasure or even surprise. Like bear eyes they were.And he sighed."Zoe, you troublesome little bitch."She quivered with hard sobs at your feet.His eyes turned to you."This is the only fool willing to help you? It takes courage to cross me. I respect that."He smiled. An imitation of human emotion."Lord Wilhelm. I've had word of you. A great speaker they say. Dethroned a king with just his words. You are the talk of the Levant. Tell me though, do you think there is a way to talk yourself out of this one?"As if on cue his men took a single, united step forward. An echoing stomp. The jangle of spear and armour rung out.> yes> no
Hmm.What can we do?
>>39784106>> yesYou can always talk yourself out of anything
Fuck if I know.
>>39784106>> yesToo soon to give up. Lets leave it to the dice.
>>39784127If you can fight, fight. If you can't fight, hold your ground. If you can't hold your ground, flee. If you can't flee, surrender. If you can't surrender, die.
>>39784134Sure as hell not fighting our way out.
>>39784106> noWe could say that her bodyguard went rouge since he killed a Varangian but we still can't really solve the problem that Zoe is a runaway bride. Its not something we can really meddle in unless we consult Zoe's father. Even if we could her family would suffer the backlash from canceling the marriage unless they had sufficient cause.We could always duel him but where is our justification first? Unless we say Zoe ran away and became a nun.
>>39784162Anon. That would be to talk ourself out of this.
>>39784162all yes-men listen to this guy
Everyone who voted yes, please give your reasoning as to why we are capable of talking our way out of this? Like, what's our ammo, and how effective will it be against Darth Vader?
>>39784164I am saying no since I can't think of an actual solid point we can lead on except for the nun thing which Zoe wouldn't want to due to her goals.
>"I already laid with her."
>>39784177Talking is what Willy excells at; giving excuses, lying, and misdirection is still talking our way out. We've been seen, and this guy doesnt seem friendly.
God damn it we are gonna get fucking speared what have you guys been doing while I was asleep
>>39784177Because I'm thinking death by association is a real possibility, and there's not a lot of wiggle room in these options.
>>39784197And what is the lies/misdirection/excuse you are going to give/vote for? If you voted yes you should have at least an overall idea of how you are going to follow up, you don't just rely on dice rolls. Just like how anons now know to use BLOCK when we are fighting people instead of just attacking.
Rolled 88 (1d100)Rolling to see how fucked we are
>>39784211Blame the sexy sweet reversetrap, nigger.
>>39784217Our head will roll.
Am I the only one who saw HF's ominous tweet?
We may be able to bring out the fact that this is Jerusalem and not Roman land and it is a violation of the Kingdom of Jerusalem sovereignty. That it might lead to conflict between the two nations. And offer him to bring it up with the queen ?.
>>39784225We should just concede this one.
>>39784215Guy, I'm just going with my gut.
>>39784225No. I don't think one reverse trap is worth the possibility of war
>>39784225They are simply retrieving a runaway bride/noble and it seems Gerard gave consent for them to enter his land and complete their mission. You also have to remember that Zoe did not claim asylum or any backing. She is simply a foreign visitor. If we do say they are in a violation of Jerusalem's sovereignty we are going to get Gerard in trouble as well.
>>39784236Your gut is an idiot
Moral of the story: Don't involve yourself with byzantine intrigue
>>39784245This early? You're damn straight.
>>39784236It is fine to believe. But since multiple people voted, I wanted to think at least some people had an idea to this situation when they voted for it.
Fuck the byzantines, how long until Venice fucks them over?
>>39784273Think it is around 100 years.
Let's just go out a window.
>people actually thought saying yes was a good ideadamn aussies and eurofags get your shit together
>>39784298He wouldn't see that one coming for sure. We have a talent for making enemies as fast as we make friends.
This will end in tears.
>>39784236Go with your tongue and what it can conjure instead of some confidence in the QM's ability to write us a way out. I wanna hear what excuses and arguments you've thought up.
>>39784106>We all jump out a window, it's not like we're wearing armor.
>>39784319We deserve it
"Yes," you said, the word like a muted bell peeling.Zoe looked up at you, her face a red mess, lips trembling.Theodore laughed. A long and pleasant one."Let this be a lesson to you about hubris. A demonstration of real power," he said, and stepped toward the girl."No!" Ethelred roared, turning to face the General.It was a deadly hiss, the spears coming forward. They took him through the arms, the legs, the shoulders, metal points coming out glittering with red. His axe fell from his hands. He stood like a scarecrow, standing only by the strength of arm of the men who held the spears. He made a noise. Like a croak or a whine. He ran from a dozen points. His eyes were on Zoe. Dying eyes.Zoe's eyes were wide and mouth open in horror. She could not even scream, her chest was heaving greatly.One of the Varangians stepped forward. It was a snick of the axe he'd carried that left Ethelred's gaping face rolling across the floor. The man picked it up and threw it to his companion.Theodore took another step with a smug grin. Now there was something like emotion in his eyes. He looked to you."You will watch. You will do that. And you will remember what happens when a Latin tries to involve himself in Roman affairs."He crouched beside Zoe, stroked her long olive neck. "It is time to claim my bride, and end this nonsense." And then he gently, mockingly, nibbled on her ear as if they were long time lovers.It was the Varangians that held her down. They pressed her face down on the stones of that hallway. Held her by the shoulders as he pulled down her men's breeches. She fought, thrashed underneath him, resist his touch upon her exposed backside. He pulled himself from under his armoured skirt.Hugo choked. His eyes large and filling with tears, teeth gritted. Your hand was the only thing that stayed him. Your own horror had left your mind faintly numb. It was all happening before you, as if it was both very close and at a great distance.
>>39784321That slick thinking won't exist until I either stay awake a few more hours or finally go yo sleep. I'm at the point in exhaustion where my thoughts are scrambled.
>>39784332You guys are so god damn retarded
The sound she made when he took her maidenhead with that first thrust would be carried to your dying day.He took her in front of his men, attention devoted to his task. Enjoying it. When he was done he gave a satisfied huff, and finally pulled out. His face was glowing.Zoe had not lost consciousness. Not once. And when he was done at least, her eyes were open, her body breathed. But he had emptied her, and when one of the Varangians threw her over his shoulder she went limply, like a pair of saddlebags.Theodore stopped before you and looked you up and down, still bare to the world with his long slick member."Never cross my path again," he said, and clapped your shoulder.They left you and Hugo alone. Hugo dropped to his knees and gave a painful howl, ripping his tunic apart upon his chest. You merely stood, staring at the spot Zoe had lain. There was only a little blood.-It was Etienne that found you. Armed and armoured with your men."Orders my lord?" he asked.You looked up at him a dumb animal. He put a hand to your shoulder, moustache tweaking."Your men need orders," he said, gesturing to the men-at-arms that crowded around you.You closed your eyes.> we return to Ramla> I have business in the city
>>39784343He would have done it anyway even if we had said no. The guy is a bastard
>>39784332>Geld him, then he'll be powerless.
>>39784343I'd thought it'd be a chance to explain ourselves out of the situation, not get her raped.
>>39784332Rip in peace Ethelred.>And you will remember what happens when a Latin tries to involve himself in Roman affairsHe's right but we are german.
>>39784350Historical Fiction, we did not know that "Yes" to mean it would have those consequences. Next time you do something like this, could you say what the consequences are?
>>39784350> I have business in the cityLets set up that trade Caravan with Sir Froggy and get the hell out of this place
>>39784356That's exactly what makes you retarded
>>39784350> I have business in the cityAnd that business ISN'T getting revenge.
>>39784364You should have explained your case better.
>>39784350> I have business in the cityLets get that horse trading business done.
>>39784362The only different outcome between yes and no was a single line.
>>39784373>>39784351So i was right then.
>>39784373I just hope we never see another roman again.
>>39784350>> I have business in the city
>>39784370You should have fought if you actually wanted to help the girl. I was asleep at the time. Wilhelm has the ability to fight even though it's not his specialty
Well, I don't know how we were supposed to come out on top with that Greek business, so pbbt.
Damn. Chiri was right again. That girl was trouble. Big time.
>>39784373Really, no jumping out a window?
>>39784388You wanted us all to jump out of the castle window and land on the ground ?
>>39784380No, running and getting her out of there was the smarter option.
>>39784387It's apparent that she was in trouble, and we learned it first hand. Interjection into this guys affairs is bad news, but I hope we kill him one day.
>>39784394It would have been better, we didn't have anything heavy on.
Still best Quest.
>>39784373Was there any way we could have actually helped her?
>>39784403Anon you try to jump out of second floor and see what happens.
>>39784400Could we never mess with them again? I am against revenge unless there is a reward for it.
>>39784412we have more pressing concerns.
>>39784410I'll answer that after the session.
>>39784411https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlpaIilsgrQIn real life, this guy jumped out from the seventh floor of a building.
>>39784410We probably could if we interrogated the assassin though that would be very risky.
>>39784412Nah, I'm all for revenge, just later on when we have the power.
>>39784350>I have business in the city>Laugh long and loud
>>39784432Are you sure about that?
>>39784445I don't care about their power now, I care about our power later.
>>39784452Unless we convince Venice to help convince others to fuck them over we won't have a chance.
Hahahaha, people were all expecting this to come down to dice rolls, and in the end no dice were rolled!
>>39784458Our focus should continue to stay on Ramla and Ascalon and then Eqypt
>>39784458Hush, we just have to hold onto our hope.
>>39784445If he wants to become emperor I am sure there is going to be a decently sized faction that would oppose him. We could back them or try to discredit Theodore so he can't take up the title.
>>39784466That's right. We should focus on removing kebab.
Well, at least we're going to train our WAR now.
It takes you a moment to find your voice."I have business in the city. Sir Matthias. Horse trading," your words are short, clipped, but composed. Some how. You don't need Etienne's help, your feet are steady. Steadier than you thought they'd be. Hugo needed gentler handling. He wept softly as a couple of the soldiers took him up.It was then that others found you. Sabeen in armour with sword and shield. Maggie hefting an axe. Mohmed and Orlando with swords each. Chihirizahd behind."God be good, you are safe," Orlando said, rushing to your side. You push him off before he can hug you. The man stares, backing away. He looked about. "What has happened?""Later," Sabeen said, coming over to Hugo."But-" Orlando tried, but Sabeen just gave him a glare."Later Orlando," she snapped. She took Hugo by the shoulder, her hard glare melting to one of soft concern. The boy's tears settled and he huffed, half bare chest. In his rage he had dug bloody rivets into his own skin. Sabeen led her to Maggie.It was Mohmed that paused at the sight of the blood stains. Nodding as he put the scene together in his head. Ministrations he left to Chihirizahd's hands. Soft and warm upon the tightness of your neck. She did not say anything, and she did not seem shocked, but she offered you a sad, knowing smile.Of course, she would know much about this sort of cruelty.Mathilde came rushing in the courtyard. Hugged you tight around the waist. You could see she had been crying. She even gave Hugo a stiff, awkward hug. As you all walked, yourself still rattled and numb, through the courtyard, you saw Gerard watching from a balcony. He could only offer you a slight nod.Your party mounted and you let your horse carry you from the castle and into the city. You had spoken off business, but in truth you merely wanted to be rid of this place. A revulsion overcame you very suddenly, a full nausea that crept under your skin.> roll 1d100, best of three to remain in the city
Rolled 72 (1d100)>>39784503
Rolled 66 (1d100)>>39784503
Rolled 6 (1d100)>>39784503
>>39784507Should be good enough
>>39784332>>39784350Not as bad as I thought it would be.
I wanna burn their boat.
You turned in your saddle and heaved, vomit splattering down in the gutter. That earned you the hateful eye of a passing merchant. You were in no mood to feel sorry for him. With that bile though went some of your nausea. You wiped the last trail off on the back of your hand, looked around you with sharper, clearer eyes. You knew the way to Sir Matthias, and a touch of your heels to horse flesh had you trotting in that direction.It was that narrow little avenue you had awoken in drunk one morn. A tidy little house. Sir Matthias stood out the front, stretching his joints, sleeves rolled up as if he had been hard at work within.You slid out of your saddle."Ho, friend!" his smile was bright and cheery, "You're in luck. My wife has just gone into labour!" His face glowed. The man was very pleased with himself.Your heart sank. Did he know the dangers of childbirth? Your own mother had lost six other children, three before you with one of them being in the crib. A cry came from within, Jehanne loud and painful. It rattled you for more reasons than one. You might have dashed in."My mother and the midwife are inside attending to her," he said, "But no fear, there's room enough to make a deal in the sitting room."He held the door open for you.> attend to business> send Mohmed to assist with the birth> wait outside Jehanne's door while she births your bastard
>>39784571Too bad m8 we went full diplomancer so now /tg/ will never actually vote to fight unless we're playing as hugo
>>39784576>> send Mohmed to assist with the birthGive Froggy the offer to let him assist
>>39784576> send Mohmed to assist with the birth> wait outside Jehanne's door while she births your bastardWe need good news.
>>39784576> send Mohmed to assist with the birthGet a gift for the baby?
>>39784576> send Mohmed to assist with the birth
>>39784582See, you never go full anything. The very thing you're quoting says just that. We can train ourselves continuously, to reach even greater heights than Hugo can. Being content with where we are now, that guy who gets talked down to by rapists, isn't what I would call ambitious. Not training our body is dumb, especially when we're preparing to go to war.
>>39784576Please have the mother's hairPlease have the mother's hairPlease have the mother's hair
>>39784576>"Hey, Orlando, you wanna be a godfather of this child?"
>>39784607Too early for that. But we shouldnt worry too much. Froggy got dark hair. BUt oh god please let it have her hair.
>>39784576>send mohmed>attebd business
>>39784576>> attend to business>> ASK to send Mohmed to assist with the birth
"Business can wait," you said, striding past him. You called Mohmed to come up. Froggy visibly paled at the sight of a Saracen. Right now you didn't give a damn. You directed him up the stairs to where the cries were coming from.Mohmed attempted to enter and Froggy's mother gave a curse."No men in the birth chamber!"Superstitious old witch, an ungenerous thought. You pushed the door open. Damn etiquette.Jehanne's face was red and running with sweat, her knees raised and lips curled back in pain. Her eyes were running with tears. She was such a slim. Girl. Froggy's be-scarfed old mother gaped at you. As did the old woman on the other side of Jehanne."Let my man see to your daughter," you growled the words. Near drew your sword as well. Their shock and outrage turned to naked fear. They fled the room before you. Now Mohmed was free to take the mid-wife's seat."Send Maggie to help," he instructed you. You did just that bellowing for the Irish lass. She came up with flying skirts, rushing past you."Clean sheets, hot water," he said. It seemed to be all he said as he crouched before Jehanne's spread knees.Jehanne reached out a hand, eyes twisting up."Please," she said, body wracked with pain. Pale fingers outstretched toward you.You stood in the doorway.> take her hand> go back to your business
>>39784663Fuck Froggy's consent, he's not the one in childbirth.
>>39784666>go back to your business
>>39784666>> go back to your businessTaking her hand is a bad idea.
>>39784666> take her hand
>>39784666>call froggy"Come on, man. You wife needs you."
>>39784666> go back to your business
>>39784676Stop being so paranoid, every witness that this could prove scandalous to is out of the room.Plus, family always comes before business.
>>39784666>>> go back to your business
Look, if we're not even going to do things that will help console women that will give birth to our child, I don't see how this quest could be fun.
>>39784682Froggys gonna think it pretty scandalous
>>39784666>> take her handYou know what, lets just take the hand.If froggy asks, just say we've seen many of our would be siblings die.
>>39784696He's not even in the room! Plus, fuck him.
>>39784666>> take her handIf Froggy enters the room, tell him to take it and be a man to his wife.
>>39784682>Stop being so paranoidYou'll never become a UV if you think like that.
>>39784708No, being paranoid has done nothing for us, and it needs to stop. We have been thrown in jail despite being paranoid, we have almost been assassinated despite being paranoid, we even lost one of our friends despite being paranoid.If we had been less paranoid when Zoe asked us to convince Lord Gerard of her cause, she might have been un-raped.
>>39784666>> take her hand
You look on her with great sympathy."Mohmed will care for you," was all you said as you closed the door.She wailed high and sharp. It was a nail against your heart, but you ignored it. You found Froggy waiting, sitting, with cups of wine for the lot of you. Orlando had found a seat, as had Etienne. Noble guests were well treated here. Etienne took a sip of his and rolled the wine around his mouth. He did not seem pleased with it. He voiced no complaint. Orlando did not touch his wine. He just watched you as you took a seat.Froggy seemed a touch annoyed by the expulsion of his mother, but made nothing of it as he served you a chunk of cheese. It went well with the cheap wine. You were German, and beer was more your drink, so you had no complaints about the servings."My father and I do most of our deals with Bedouins. Fine Arabian stallions occasionally come our way," he said, "Mostly we deal with the north circuit, up into Tripoli. It's good money. But we are looking to expand south. We've only lacked a trust worthy partner to assist us. Arrange for agents to sell and protection for our stock. I say if you can do this for us we can cut you in at twenty percent, with a pick of the horses we send south for yourself. Keep them or sell them on your own terms. Your choice."Jehanne screamed."It's a fair offer," Orlando said as he nibbled on some cheese.It wasn't a rubbish offer at least. You looked to Etienne but the man shrugged. He knew war and little else.> roll 1d100 + 20
>>39784734There's a difference between being paranoid and avoiding being totally obvious about impregnating this dudes wife
>>39784793HF. You need to say when you've begun writing. Take her hand won.
Rolled 63 + 20 (1d100 + 20)>>39784793
>>39784800Due to obvious samefagging
>>39784800You're right, sorry. I'll be sure to post a notification next time.
Rolled 36 + 20 (1d100 + 20)>>39784793
Rolled 24 + 20 (1d100 + 20)>>39784793
>>39784814POST A NOTIFICATION EVERY TIME
Rolled 39 + 20 (1d100 + 20)>>39784793
Welp, I don't wanna play Crusader Quest anymore. It was fun until this thread happened.
>>39784834fuck off then, you will not me missed
>>39784804>>39784819>>39784820hopefuly our CHA should coutneract the shitty rolls
>>39784834Sorry your samefagging was too late to swing the vote in your favor
"We don't just work with Bedouins though," Froggy said, "Some of our capital is provided by Jews in the city. Christ killers aren't a problem for you, are they?"You shook your head. So long as they were reliable you had no problem, even with a Jew.He drummed his hands upon the desk."So is that acceptable? Trading in the spring season, twenty percent of gross in exchange for agents procured and employed by you as well as protection. Sweetened with a pick of the herd. Are we in agreement?" he extended his hand.> roll 1d100 + 20> shake his hand> propose a counter offer (1d100, best of three)
>>39784841It's not a charisma roll. You're rolling for a successful birth.
>>39784814Well too late, the damage is done and you went with the wrong vote, just another shitshow like this entire thread.
Rolled 32 (1d100)>>39784859>> propose a counter offer (1d100, best of three)
Rolled 85 + 20 (1d100 + 20)>>39784859> shake his hand
>>39784871You need to relax anon. Or just stop posting altogether
Rolled 11 (1d100)>>39784859>> propose a counter offer (1d100, best of three)
>>39784856I feel sorrier for a person who wouldn't comfort the woman giving birth to their child.
>>39784868PANIC!>>39784880Thank god you are here Anon
>>39784884Different anon, but I just caught up now, and what the fuck, we watched a girl get raped right in front of us. Holy fucking railroad, Batman!
Rolled 2 + 20 (1d100 + 20)>>39784859>> shake his hand
>>39784859>> propose a counter offer (1d100, best of three)
Rolled 23 (1d100)>>39784859>> propose a counter offer (1d100, best of three)
>>39784886It's actually outside the norm of medieval society to be present at a birth, except for waiting outside men traditionally weren't meant to be in the presence of a woman in labour.
>>39784886I thought you were leaving
>>39784896>railroadNo, the players fucked up. They should face the consequences of their choices. Even if HF gave them the choice of attacking or trying to flee with Zoe, it would have been for naught. Wilhelm would have died.
>>39784859>> shake his hand
>>39784934Sometimes shit happens and we make mistakes. We just have to face up to that.
>>39784934>The only different outcome between yes and no was a single line.Don't know about you buddy, but that's what I call a railroad
>>39784886Nigga our child's life will be ruined if froggy finds out it's our bastard
>>39784947Because the players made the mistake BEFORE that choice. They had already fucked up by that point. This outcome was inevitable based on the players mistake.Not railroad.
"It's a deal good enough for me," you said, taking his offered hand.Sir Froggy smiled as the deal was struck. You heard Jehanne give a whimpering noise. Ad then, then you heard a cry. A loud, brash, bawling of a strong infant.Maggie came stumbling down the stairs, her arms red to the elbow. Her hair was curled with sweat and she looked poleaxed.She smiled."A successful birth," she said more through her flaring nostrils than her mouth.> roll 1d2> 1 boy> 2 girl
Rolled 1 (1d2)>>39784962
>>39784967Its a boy!
>>39784954Uh, we have a house?
>>39784962Christ I hope we don't have to roll for hair color
>>39784934He wouldn't let us roll to see how well our chances were at running.
>>39785000keep cryin bitch nigga
>>39784962Do you have counting problems?
>>39784990How about you read the archive?
>>39784957Try and argue all you like anon, but that was a railroad to hell and back.
>>39785018Yeah, we do have a house the last time I checked.
>>39784941And sometimes the QM just decides to fuck you with a rake and ask whether you enjoyed it afterwards. Then fuck you with the rake again because your answer and actions don't matter.
>>39785024Try and ignore my sound arguments all you want, it wasn't railroad. Try to run a quest yourself instead of being a whiny, crying little bitch over every little choice.
>>39785036I do, and that was a blatant railroad from the start.
>>39785034You're an idiot. Stop posting.
>>39785036>every little choice>TWO choices that led to a girl being raped before our very eyes
>>39785036It was. Sometimes, you have to allow the players a hopeful option despite how much you hate yourself for allowing them a way to climb out of the hole they dug themselves into.
>>39785053Speaking of holes, I hear windows are pretty spacious. So spacious, you can jump out of them with a 50/50 chance of safety.
You were first up the stairs with Matthias beside you.A boy. A blue eyed boy with a soft cap of black hair. A big, burly lad that moved fitfully in his mother's arms. Mohmed stood by the window looking as if he needed a drink. The man looked exhausted. When Maggie brought him a cup of clear water he smiled at her, took the drink."An easy birth," he said, raising a hand, "Allah be praised."That caused the entire room to shoot him an ugly frown. The man retreated a step, smiling awkwardly.But Jehanne was not angry. Her eyes were only on the babe in her arms, wet eyes and a glowing face. He frowned at her, face wrinkling up, red and angry. What a strange, alien creature a baby seemed fresh from the womb. All covered in blood and squishy."Little Alain," she said, touching his chin. Then she looked to you and her face near melted, joyful sobs breaking from her lips.Mathilde came up beside you. "Oh!" she clasped a hand to her mouth, her own eyes watering. "Oh look at it!"Women and their weakness for newborns. But then again, you were grinning too."Little Matthias," Froggy said, crouching over the mother and child. Jehanne's head ripped up at him, eyes wide and scowling."My boy," she said through clenched teeth, "Is named Alain."Froggy backed up a step, frightened by his wife. You couldn't blame him. She had her teeth bared like she meant to take his throat. But as soon as her eyes were back on Alain the she-wolf disappeared and the mother returned. What glory there was in motherhood.You leaned on the doorway, feeling wrung out. Turned inside out. This day had been one of awful juxtaposition.You watched mother tend child, and your heart panged for Ioveta.But mostly, it longed for home.-end threadQnAWilhelm: +2 War, +1 Int
I still can't believe half the players hold reputation over happiness.
>>39785078Well that was eventful, Atleast little Alain is safe and sound and the mother didnt die aswell so thati s always a plus
>>39785078>A boy. A blue eyed boy with a soft cap of black hairSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHIT
I blame "we've got high CHA so we should never fightfags" for everything.
>>39785078So what could we have done to prevent witnessing rape? Besides abandoning her of course
>>39785108We couldn't have done anything anon, HF choo choo'd that shit straight down our throats.
>>39785119Except capturing that spy in our room or talking with Gerad on her behalf
>>39785119Well, we could've discussed things with Gerard the night before.
About the Romans and the rape.I'd been planning on introducing Zoe since the very start of the quest, as well as a couple of other characters. I had mapped out plots that would have triggered depending on your starting location. If you had picked Sidon, you would have met her almost immediately. If you had traveled by boat earlier you would have met her earlier. The same as you would have encountered Sir Blaise.I know that's an unfair way to play it, but I have said in the past that there are things going on in the world independent of you. Her plot was one of them. You met her too late to really do anything. The only chance you might have had, and it was a slim one, was visiting Lord Gerard first that morning. He would have tipped you off early about Theodore's arrival, and you could have ran like hell to escape the city.Fighting the Varangians could have only potentially got you or Hugo killed. There were no windows big enough for you to jump out of. This is a medieval castle. Windows are rarely that wide. They're designed for both protection and for archers to shoot from. Barely larger than narrow slits. Never mind the fact that Zoe's room was not one facing the outside world. If there had been windows I would have mentioned them.Your bonus to war there was because you realised fighting wasn't the right thing. Knowing when not to fight is as important as knowing when to fight. You made the right move in that circumstance.
>>39785119Thanks, butthurt anon. I was really hoping you'd respond since you're clearly an authority on the matter. You seem like an idiot so I'll point out that this entire post was sarcasm
>>39785134We went to go see Zoe off so that she could pack her bags and get to Ramla. When we talked with her, she said, "I am over keen to be gone." We thought she was leaving right after we left her.
>>39785134Would there have been negative consequences for holding jehannes hand?
>>39785152No. There would've been zero consequences.
>>39785156I'm not asking you questions retard.
>>39785148>No doubt the man had put a bit of force into that. "We shall meet you and yours in the courtyard." He nooded to you and then to your sister, who blushed again, before retreating into 'his' chamber.They were going to wait in the courtyard anyway.
I won't be surprised if this quest changes to Praise Allah, Burn Byzantium Quest
>>39785134If we couldn't really do anything, then don't include these events you planned.
>>39785134Any chance of a double thread. Also how suspicious is Sir Froggy's mom of Wilhelm and the child ? Also what would have happend if we didnt bring mohmed into the birth ?
>>39785177Is failing really that much of a deal to you ?Also we could have done something, talking with lord Gerad first.
>>39785180Most likely no +20 bonus onto the rolls.
>>39785190Thank god for that because that was some really shitty rolls
>>39785177I think that really depends on what happens from here. If Theodore is going to feature in the quest again then I can understand the purpose of that scene.If not, it does seem kind of pointless.
>>39785187Not being given a fair chance in a game is a bad deal to me.
>>39785206Sometimes the odds are good and sometimes they are shit.
>>39785152Froggy would have been angry and offered you a worse deal.You could have charisma'd it up to the deal you were offered by staying to do business.>>39785148She thought she had time when you said you had other business to deal with first, and because of your offer of protection she also relaxed her guard.Look, I knew the way I ended up playing that there would be players upset by this situation. This came very close to a no-win situation from the outset.>>39785177You could have, at any point, told her to take a hike. I had Chihirizahd warn you helping her was a bad idea.You are just one guy going up against the Eastern Roman Empire, and not just that but your attention was split on an equally important task. Getting involved with someone whose plot would require a lot of investment wasn't going to be anything other than extremely hard.I don't axe plot lines just because there's a chance they can go badly for you. You can't win every time.>>39785190Pretty much this exactly.
This thread's already at -11 in the suptg archives. Either the lurkers are mad or someone's votespamming. Either way, someone's mad, and quests with scores like that don't do well.
>>39785211I want a game where the odds are just as good as they are shit, instead of playing Marco Polo in a cesspool.
>>39785215It's obviously a votespammer
>>39785214I don't want you to axe these plot lines, I want you to burn them and write new ones.
>>39785215Holy shit, how butthurt is that guy ?
>>39785215It's this guy.>>39785177>>39785228
>>39785215>tfw I have to share quests with faggots like these
>>39785215That description too.>A princess gets raped while we watch and we neglect a lady giving birth to our child.He obviously archived it and started to votespam immediately.
The reason I'm ending this thread early is because I have to be up earlier than usual tomorrow and its nearly ten o'clock. Nothing to do with people getting angry. Anger isn't bad. It means they care. The worst response would be complete apathy.>>39785219You want a game where everything is 50/50 I suggest you find another game. I've said before there are times when things will go south and the odds will be stacked against you. And I thought that in this instance I had pressed upon you how much of a bad idea it was getting involved with her. I guess I should have been more explicit.
>>39785214>You could have, at any point, told her to take a hike.You liar. You didn't give us options for dialogue. You just wrote a scene and then told us to go do two other things besides helping them out at all.
>>39785232Dunno man, but it's easy to get invested in something and put yourself in the protagonist shoes. I'm not the one votespamming and I'm not about to drop the quest, but it doesn't mean I don't have a really sour taste in my mouth at the moment.
>>39785249> I guess I should have been more explicit.Chiri was short of just grabbing us by the collar and yelling into our face over how bad an idea it was.
>>39785249Give us more freedom in your cutscenes.
>>39785134So you completely admit to it being railroaded to shit.Fuck you you talentless piece of shit.
>>39785256Obviously he's referring to past threads where we got involved with her for no real reason
>>39785259Defeat is a sour thing to swallow but the way he is reacting is just insane
>>39785232I've stopped caring...And I don't care much if he has been triggered and started raping the archive rating.I was in this quest, and I had a great time, that is what mattersThanks to HF, you always deliver writing I enjoy.I'm also not 12 years old and I like a bit of realism in my quests. It is not all about winning imo.Cheers
>>39785256I have never rejected voter write-ins outright and I never forced you to even talk to her. I had NPCs warn you about involving yourself with her. NPCs I figured you trusted to have good judgement on these things.I'm not going to draw you a complete map.
>>39785270>Mfw you're THIS angry over a quest.
>>39785271Because we, as players of a game, thought it would be fun way for the story to go, but nope, the QM decided to shit on us.
>>39785256Did you not read the earlier threads in which we were given the option?
>>39785214>Look, I knew the way I ended up playing that there would be players upset by this situation. This came very close to a no-win situation from the outset.Yep railroaded, you heard him say it folk. I hope you die in a fire whilst being raped HF.
>>39785276You wouldn't let us talk to her when we went to see her, you just wrote a conversation all by your lonesome.
>>39785276Just ignore the one child HFI'm looking forward to the next time you run
Bad idea >>> Really bad idea >>>>>>>> Actual rape
>>39785275>and I had a great timeThe rest of us meanwhile did not.
>>39785303Speak for yourself
>>39785276Thanks for running againThis outrage is a bit extreme but it's to be expected given what happened I suppose
>>39785249>It means they care. The worst response would be complete apathy.I used to care, and then this thread happened, and now I'm angry that you were retarded enough to pull this shit on us, but I know that anger will fade, it already is with the realisation I don't care about this quest anymore.So goodluck to you and whoever else decided to stick with this quest after you've driven it into the ground with this thread and your railroad, but I won't care about it anymore.
>>39785304Neither did I
>>39785276If not a map, give us hope.
>>39785249>The worst response would be complete apathy.Hahaha haha haaaathats what I feel right now...
>>39785303The best thing about this boy spamming negative votes in the archive, is that all his whining in the thread will be lost to the worldforeverlel
>>39785321I want this whole thread to be lost to the world so no one else will have to read it.
>>39785276I'm not really mad but the rape scene was definitely going too far. Seems really strange that he didn't just abduct her
>>39785307People need to blow off some steam. Rape in particular is a pretty touchy subject. Unfortunately it was a very real danger pointed at noble women in particular in this period. I'm reminded of the Irish Abbess that was raped to have her lands freed up by a right bastard, as well as the exploits of other bastards particularly in Jerusalem.There's a long passage in one account of the capture of Jerusalem by Saladin's forces that is essentially a monologue about the joys of raping Christian women, holy women in particular. I swear the guy sounded like he was jerking off while he was writing it. It was a first hand account too.
>>39785339Couldn't you just go the route of him putting her in a forced marriage and then taking her on the wedding night? We didn't need to see anything, you clod.
>>39785347Yeah I don't know m8 I think he just wanted to write up some rape
>>39785347I'm done with you now little troll.Time to run along
>>39785337Technically they were already married, so he wanted to take her maidenhead with witnesses to solidify it. He also wanted to send a message to Wilhelm and the Levantine nobility as a whole to never, ever try to fuck with him. The hostility between the Romans and the Levantines, particularly in this period where they were feuding over Antioch, is absolutely insane. They hated each other more than they hated Muslims.
>>39785347If it was true to the time period then it was fine. Bad things happen a lot during those dark ages and frankly this class is like a window into that world and I love it for it.
>>39785249>It means they care.Not anymore. Ever since the hiatus I've been finding it hard to bring myself to dedicate time to posting and reading these threads and now after this mess laid in my lap, I just don't care, theres not even any anger, there might have been a while ago if I was still invested in this quest but after this that won't be happening again.>The worst response would be complete apathy.You managed to get that with alarming success so good job there.
>>39785360Just let it go HF.Never argue with an idiot, they will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.See you next time.
You remember in Three Kingdoms Quest when Sun Ce died? This is gonna be that times 5.
>>39785381b-b-but we're only gonna lose the ones we don't like. the ones constantly shitposting.
>>39785356I did kind of want to write a scene where rape was used as a weapon against a woman. It was a real thing back in this period that happened with alarming frequency. Now it wasn't necessarily going to be her, but it was going to come up again and it might come up again - possibly even to a guy.Rape and the threat of rape was just a basic fact of the day, leveraged against women in every social position.I thought about doing it off screen once I got to it. But I've never gone 'off screen' before. Sex and violence has always been explicit. This is no different.
>>39785360Thanks for running I still think the rape scene was an awful idea considering butthurt anons will likely be trolling your quest for a while
>>39785391The thing is: they're CONSTANTLY shitposting.
Why do people think the baby is ours again? I remember that we didn't bed the girl at least before we handed her off. Is it the black hair? Because the wife has blue eyes and red hair, not too sure on the husband.
>>39785376If they have legit criticisms I'm always going to listen and take it on board. And if they are angry with me and have questions I think they deserve an explanation or at least consideration of their view point.
>>39785406We totally bedded that girl.
>>39785398You did good. Don't waste more energy on this/these shits
>>39785408My viewpoint is that your heart is black and that you should withhold shit similar to what happened in this thread.
>>39785406I think you remember incorrectly
>>39785408We don't want any more hopeless sob stories. We want to actually go crusading and bringing Christmas to all the good little girls and boys.
>>39785411I don't think of them as shits, just angry players. As their QM I owe them a measured response.>>39785420I'll admit to being a pretty evil minded person some times. It's why I write so many evil minded people. It worries me, honestly.>>39785430Okay. I'd suggest not getting involved with every sob story that comes along then.
>>39785408How has Chiri avoided pregnancy for so long?
>>39785445Stop making them sob stories, and have a little faith that things can always get better. After all, God brings light to this world.>>39785453Leaves.
>>39785453You can't get a willingly heathen pregnant!
>>39785453She can't have children.A consequence of being raped continuously at a very young age. She had a child when she was depressingly young, lost it, and now can't conceive. She barely survived.How's that for black hearted and depressing?
>>39785430But that's bullshit. This quest is like a historical simulator. Bad shit happens and was bound to happen to people close to us sooner or later. You are in the wrong quest otherwise.
>>39785475Well, it sounds like you're Shadow the Hedgehog.
>>39785475What i figured. I had hoped it werent and that she was just not very fertile.
>>39785475>implying I want half heathen children this is good news
>>39785480It's a historical fiction, not a simulator. I just want to save our friends from bad stuff.
>>39785475You can't be serious
>>39785497Then choose your friends wisely because we are in the dark times. Especially if we get unlucky and there is a raid on our holdings due to people wanting revenge from us selling all those heathen corpses.
>>39785460>Stop making them sob stories, and have a little faith that things can always get better. After all, God brings light to this world.I find that faith in God is the strength to handle the darkest parts of life, not to keep us free from darkness altogether. I don't believe God causes direct miracles, only gives us strength to persevere.The strength of belief in God, Allah or Jesus Christ whoever, will be a theme. One of the reasons Chihirizahd has the strength she does is through her belief in her god.But I don't believe in miracles.>>39785485I thought I'd alluded to it fairly well in game, people just kept asking so I figured they should get a direct statement.
>>39785445>As their QM I owe them a measured response.you are a better man than me then.
>>39785528Miracles might happen if you bothered to let us roll.
>>39785475You just keep digging your grave deeper and deeper don't you.
>>39785546There's an expression. 'No dice'. It means essentially, sometimes you don't have a chance.>>39785557If you say so. I won't judge or make comment on how you react to something. You are completely entitled to your response.
>>39785528>so I figured they should get a direct statement.You figured you would just worsen the quest after this clusterfuck of a thread. You took a look at the shit you heaped at us and thought "You know what, I wonder what it feels like to step into that".Honestly the only thing that can save this quest and you as a QM is a complete retcon of this, but that won't happen, so make sure your will is in order, you'll be needing it soon.
>>39785528Try to keep the in-quest rape to a minimum. Being surrounded by rage filled anons is not a fun way to quest
>>39785576>sometimes you don't have a chance.Hahahaha, oh man thats rich coming from you after this.Go fuck yourself.>>39785581Nor is being in a rape filled quest fun, just like this quest, which is no longer fun.
>>39785581Yeah, sure. I do understand its a touchy subject for a lot of people. It's not like I'm planning a twenty-four hour rape camp, with tickets sold at the door.I'll certainly be more careful when and where it happens.
>>39785576>There's an expression. 'No dice'. It means essentially, sometimes you don't have a chance.Then don't include it in the game. This isn't a story we read, it's a game we play.
>>39784814Oh yeah, you also suck at following through with your words.
>>39785674pls ai niid tu haf de last word pls
>>39785674That's a fair point actually. I get caught up in typing sometimes and forget that stuff.(honestly, if I see a vote trending in a certain direction I will start typing up a bit early. It gets me caught out some times when I don't check the continuous voting closely and that's something I have to work on.)
You should be able to solve this.
>>39785710I just hope that Sir Froggy and his mother will remain clueless about little Alain
>>39785710Just caught up and thanks for running.Its a game, its a story and its also clear we're not some superhero, we dont have the power to solve every problem wecome across.The only answer is to gather more power in order to prevent this from happening to people we know.
>>39785818Right now, we're all talk, so we should exercise our sword to where it is ten thousand times swifter than it was in the bar where we cut the dude's arm off.
>>39785829we can practice swordplay with Etienne on the ship on our way home
>>39785840And in our free time. Hell, why not archery?
>>39785829I actually agree.We cannot rely on Hugo forever
>>39785844Solomon could teach. Them Nubian be crazy archers. Nubia was pretty much known as "Land of the Bow"
>>39785829We should probably also study our Strategikon of KekaumenosIt is pretty much "how to war" the book
Who else is expecting all future threads to be troll archives?
>>39786018I am just trying to figure out who else we could get to ally ourselves with for Ascalon. Maybe send a letter to the Holy Orders and try get them into it
>>39786029The holy ordos shouldnt be too hard to convince. Especially if we have Hugo, lay champion of the Templars.
>>39786081Speaking of Jerusalem. The Count of Toulouse is currently on the way to the city in order to speak with the Queen about her husband dethronement.Really dont hope it will fuck us over.
>>39786120Of course it will.
Now, some of you may be wanting to go to war against Byzantium for revenge, and I must say: We only beef with one guy. Our friend is a byzantine. If we go to war with the byzantines, we should do it the righteous and benevolent way, like Jin and Wu.
>>39786124Can just imagine it"The King of France is willing to forgive this action if Iovetta marries his son Prince Louis"Brrrr
Thanks for running HF I personally liked how the thread went. It showed how rough this time period was and how we cant save every princess. Also Tumblr please go home this is /tg/ we design rape factories here for fun. This fit the story, time period, and general theme of the quest so if you don't like it sucks to be you. You are here for a hard historical fiction quest and HF has just properly introduced the characters to what was common as all hell in the holy land.
>>39786183It's not about the rape, it's about how powerless the QM made us in this thread.
We need to go find something to mine and get money with.
>>39786216For some people its about the rape.
>>39786222Yeah, that too.
>>39785598>I'll certainly be more careful when and where it happens.Too late for that, the damage is long done and irreparable now.
>>39786245What damage exactly ?Some 2 or 3 people didnt like it and decided to not follow the quest anymore.
>>39786216Tough shit. We aren't a wizard. We can't action hero our way through dozens of armored soldiers with nothing but our swinging dick. Powerlessness is how people grow. We put ourselves in that situation by volunteering to help the girl then trying to intervene when we knew we had fuck all to actually help her with. The chances we had to stop it all happened earlier in the quest they just didnt appear to be relevant until this specific thread and honestly thats the way it should be. If we miss an opportunity somewhere I have no issue with it coming back to bite us in the ass later on and you know what we wont make that mistake again. I understand how in this thread it looked like we had fuck all choice in helping but the time for us to make a real difference in that situation was long gone and we suffered for it and know we know what kind of game we need to play.Sometimes you cant talk or fight your way out of things. Sometimes things just happen
>>39786259If they just dropped the quest that would be fine.Chances are they're going to actively troll it instead.
>>39786289I am just sad we cant have cute half heathen babies with Chiri
Oh God. We are King Baldwin. We are going to die unmarried and childless, leaving everything to Hugo who will not be up for it and begin the decline of our work
>>39786306well, not entirely childless...
>>39786316Shhhh. That black haired blue eyed little boy is the offspring of Sir Matthias and no one else!
>>39786325He truly was our... Frog Prince.
Remember earlier in the quest when we were all thinking lewd thoughts about Mathilde and Nii-Nii, then Mathilde and Zoe? Such happy times...
>>39786377When did we think lewd thoughts about Mathilde ?She is our sister and we are not Lannisters
>>39786384I was the one thinking things, not Wilhelm and his wilhelm.
>>39786392Anon our sister is like 12
>>39786403That's what makes it like the desert sun.
>>39786415> Sir Etienne entered, his squire a step behind. His eyes drifted from Mathilde to you and he gave a disapproving frown
>>39786287>Sometimes things just happenSometimes the QM railroads shit down your throat.
>>39786797You are an enormous baby. We were given plenty of opportunities in previous threads to actually do something, but we decided to play the waiting game. We paid for it. Not a lot of us wanted to see the story go down this way, but the thing that stands out about HF is that he actually provides consequences consequences and impacts on every single thing we do. That's what makes the story good; each choice is fraught with tension and meaning. It's mature storytelling. He gave adequate story cues via in-universe information, without revealing what actually might happen because we're only human. We're just a young German floundering in the Levant. If he let us move mountains, then there would actually be less agency in our choices, because ultimately they would matter less.By the time the Byzantines caught up, there was nothing we could do besides die in her defense. From a certain point onwards, it was futile. This shouldn't be news. If you've been following the previous threads, shit happens. We aren't always capable of handling it. The choice was never lost, it just boiled down to shit and less shit. But since some players actually want to see the story go on, he's not just going to write a post about how Wilhelm dies valiantly (though in vain).
>>39786797If you're still upset, then do what people are wont to do and start something long term. A plot that will take years to complete but will kill that man all the same. Start with making a contact with a merchant head up to the romans.
>>39786950Thats what i like. Our friends and allies are mortal and need looking after. We can't just dive into shit all the time to sort it out and expect dice to save the day.
Y'know what really would have worked? Holding a blade against Zoe's throat.
>this threadHoly fuck HF I love you man but WHAT THE EVERLOVING FUCK?
>>39787417Yeah, there should be a phrase like "DANGER ZONE" that tells us when the thread is going to be rapey.
>>39787450Well he did post on twitter to be fairI don't cut ally hate that it went there but Goddamn that was dark
>>39787492"I'm gonna do something mean">what goes through my mind: "Ya all slipped on banana peels and landed flat on your asses."
>>39785853>there is a Alt. Version of F/S night in which Solomon is summoned as archer
>mfw this thread
>>39787611The question is, would Hugo be Berserker or Saber?
>>39787665Blaise for Bahserker Hugo for Saber,Elias for lancer & Chiricahua for castah
>>39787697Wilhelm is Rider, Charizard is Pseudo-Assassin
>>39787509>not you and Hugo die horribly THE END Need I remind you how. Any times we've nearly died as either Hugo or Wilhelm? HF doesn't play with the gloves on
>>39787740>Wilhelm>not ShirkuhWho can ride better? Because we already know the answer
>>39785592>Nor is being in a rape filled quest fun, just like this quest, which is no longer fun.Fuck off back to tumblr. There's nothing wrong with fictional rape.
>>39787741I think the next thread's gonna be it, we're getting out of this hellhole and going back to Germany by the looks of it.
>>39787775There have been several incidents where we've killed because we're not okay with rape.
>>39787787Nigga step it up Alexandria or bust! I fucking called we may have had to up our pol game1 I mean the rape thing is bad but evidence we have to up our Cao Cao even more if we want the best end or at least ascalon
>>39787450>advocating for trigger warnings0/10, didn't troll me asshole.>>39787805>rape is bad, mmkay?Yeah, we could have got killed because we're not okay with rape. That would have been a good idea.Fuck off, moron.
>>39787805Yes but killing rapists is different to killing a supremely powerful lord who IS a rapistMaybe we could point a certain group of killers in his direction....
>>39787787Why? Our home is Ramla then Ascalon and then Alexandriaget hype
>>39787854Cao Cao's boring to play as, I want to play as Sun Quan more.
>>39787901Sun Quan's whole story is about being a successor though.How's about we focus on playing Wilhelm?currently I see wilhelm as a less fighty Sun Ce
>>39787927Probably gonna get more fighty soon, that is, if HF doesn't decide to rape us.
>>39787901But anon that's if we die after taking ascalon>Bastard teaming up with the boy who would be king fighting Saladin with GAR HugoWhy I almost wish we could have a BAD end
>>39787966Wrong Baldwin anon.
>>39788073Woooo we got a son!I mean... Sir Matthias got a son... go him! woooo
>>39788089Sir Matthias got cuck'd.
>>39788073>implying I'm not talking about lovetta & Wilhelms childHe's gonna be Gilgamesh 2.0 you'll see!
>>39788121If Wilhelm plays his cards right his family might become this alternate Jerusalem's Ibelin family