Elizabeth exhales in frustration from the back of the room as the other humans continue to make pointless discussion. She had arrived to speak with them in an effort to keep them appeased, and to avoid just such a discussion from needing to be had.“How long has it been now? Weeks? A month? We can’t just live here until they decide to get rid of us.” Someone says.“I've tried to negotiate with them, but they only seem to want to talk with Dr. Vaughn, and no offense doctor, but you’re not exactly trained in first contact negotiations.”Elizabeth snaps her attention to the officer, but quickly hides most of her anger. “I will have you know I hold nearly a dozen degrees regarding non-human social development, both observed and theoretical, modern and historical. Forgive me if I consider that more practical during first contact then knowing how to grease a palm.”The man is silent for a moment, stammering silently as he tries to form a response. “Well then where are the results?” He says finally. “I’ll look past that bout of insubordination due to the rather extreme situation we are in, but if you want to prove your skills at the negotiating table, I would suggest you actually negotiate. What exactly do you do, have tea and biscuts?”Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!>Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone>FAQ ask.fm/QuestDrone>Discussion page http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest_talk:Hive_Queen_Quest
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>>38740820>Current armory1169 Thorn Launchers20 Thorn Cannons5823 Sting Casters530 Cyclotrons345 Rotary Stingers3 Fire Sprays95 Plasma Spray422 Particle Cannons320 Lightning Guns120 Lightning Cannons>Current resource reservesNutrients: 4,779,286Metals: 704,303Credits: ₡2226Credits in Lyle’s account: ₡1,177,400>Hive population and upkeep cost Hive maintenance – 32325Queen – 5Fake Queen (3) – 165Small Egg layer – 12Worker (85005) – 170010Aquatic Worker (5140) – 20560Vacuum Worker (5200) – 31200Radiator Worker (5100) – 20400Warrior (11209) – 56045Aquatic Warrior (100) – 700Thinker (2000) – 6000Quantum Thinker (1000) – 5000Speaker – (3) – 12Digger (200) – 800Refinery (40) – 280Sniffer (2) – 8Small Sniffer (200) – 200Fly (1050) – 4200Wasp (1100) – 5500Haz-mat Workers (20) – 80Shock Troops (40) – 520Parasite (30) – 120Bio-tank (12) – 300Excavator (1000) – 19000Colossus (20) – 300Hovertank (200) – 5000Harvester (50) – 950Support Fluttercraft (2) – 272Ghost Beetle (5) – 135Heavy Warrior (1000) – 19000Chinook (100) – 1800Air defense drone (80) – 5920Bomber (160) – 6560Strafer drone (400) – 6000Heavy Interceptor (160) – 4480Light Interceptor (800) – 11200Advanced Relay (69) – 6900 (set as default method of ship control)Upkeep: 447,971N>Hive fleetSpace Pod (5010) – 150300Heavy Fleet Fighter (200) – 13400Shuttle (10) – 250Mining Corvette (36) – 9900Patrol Corvette (20) – 10140Scout Corvette (8) – 1800Lancer Corvette (2) – 450Fleet Corvette (44) – 9900Heavy Fleet Frigate (12) – 17124Stealth Frigate (4) – 1952Vanguard Frigate (100) – 40000Heavy Cruiser (10) – 12150Heavy Fleet Cruiser (6) – 15030282,396N
>>38740826More like tunnel snacks
So what are we doing to do with these guys? Seems a terrible waste to just have them sitting around.
Hey QD, what would a failed Chimera sound like?
>>38740870>>38740820Since we already have the parasites inside the crew, we could just transform them all into Hybrids/Chimeras and send them into Union and Valen space.
>>38740820Send in some workers with trays of tea and biscuits. Or sweet jelly water and protein wafers. Whatever.
>>38740870Holy shit, when did we lay 5100 aquatic workers?
>>38740875They're for the Black Queen to get rekt by.
>>38740875Since we've already experimented on human biology, their sole use now is keeping Dr. Vaughn happy.The best use for them would be to induce a coma so they're not annoying her, but can be revived at any time.
>>38740870>Formed fleetsSmall Heavy Defense Fleet (under construction)Heavy Battle Fleet (queued)Clone upkeep/special projects and expenses25 Human captives of the USV Hope – 7503 Human hybrid clone upkeep – 90Specializations:>Brawler>Tech>EngineerLyle Rogers – 47887NTotal upkeepNutrient costs: 731,854N>IncomeMetals: 356,000Nutrients: 2,401,250Net: 1,669,396N
>>38740920>The best use for them would be to induce a coma so they're not annoying her, but can be revived at any time.We should consider this option.
>>38740883Probably something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hZqLB2arp0&feature=youtu.be
>>38740928Hive Territory[G-426]Asteroid mining base: 5 Excavators, 20 Diggers, +2250M per day (+50 M per digger, +250 per excavator) [obsolete]*Leeland (capital)Defensive structures>Surface to Orbit Missile System (750N)>Anti-orbital batteries: 35/35 (8750N) Military structures>Hangar facilities: Room for 4840 Aero/fighter Drones and 2420 Shuttles (3025N)>Psionic Shroud (1,000N)>Prison OutpostIndustrial structures>Docking Pylon: (100) (10,000N)1869 under construction[16 Heavy Fleet Corvettes] [Empty docks: 384/400]Economic Structures>Mine: 245 Excavators, 180 Diggers, +65750 M per day (+25 M per digger, +250 per excavator) [obsolete]>Algae Farm: +2,400,000per day, 24,000 Workers (1 worker per 100N)>Film harvester dock: +750,000N per day, 1500 Harvesters active (500N per Harvester)M-662RalighaDefensive structures>Anti-orbital batteries: 35/35 (8750N)Economic structures>Bloodroot collectors: A series of pipes and veins running from the roots of several of the nearest Bloodroot trees provide a passive and low maintenance source of nutrient income, +250N per day (5)>Greenwall pit: 500N>Temple alter: A place for the Ralighan locals to worship and bring offerings to your hive, built in the likeness of your local fake queen, +500N per dayM-323>Orbital docking pylon: Space for docking and construction of 4 sub capitals or 1 capital ship, (50N) [Empty docks: 4/4]>Mining corvette salvage operations +288000M per day (+8000M per corvette)Deep space waystation>100 docking pylons [under construction]
>>38740928Imagine that thing nomming on your spine
>>38740920You know, I actually support this. We've got what we needed from them, they're not serving a particular purpose. At the same time, no real reason to kill them.And all the mutating stuff is pointless. We can clone them if we really want duplicates of them running around for some reason.
>>38740820Is the map the entire local cluster? Or, are there more stars at reasonable distances not shown?
>>38740948New Construction OptionsDefensive structures>Anti-orbital battery – A bunker armed with a massive Particle beam capable of attacking ships in orbit from the ground. It includes the power and sensor systems required to operate it. 250N 1500M>Surface to Orbit Missile System – This massive bunker complex houses a wide range of warheads and a nigh limitless number of missiles within its protective walls, allowing you to launch missiles against approaching invaders from the safety of your hive. The facility uses the ship missile stats and comes equipped with a single Cruise missile silo that can target any detected object within the system, five Stinger missile silos capable of targeting any craft within high orbit, and ten Swarm missile silos specialized in targeting high altitude aircraft and low orbiting targets. The facility itself is a massive complex spread out over several miles, and includes guidance and launch equipment, as well as the means to construct and maintain a stock of warheads and missiles. (1500N 2500M)Military Structures>Hangar Expansion – Construct fortified hangar facilities of +40 aero/fighter drone space and +20 shuttle space. 50N 100M>Psionic Shroud – A single building built around the shattered remains of a Void Shard, the shroud amplifies the unnatural mental silence of the broken crystal within to mask an entire planet from potential detection, preventing outside forces from easily detecting the thoughts of a hive. (2,000N 5,000M)Oh god, it's taking longer to upload the post then the captcha lasts.
>>38740920Better yet have them implanted into every wall and have them wake up screaming before having a forced happy conversation with Vaughn.What the fuck has this quest done to me?
>>38740970Industrial Structures>Docking Pylon – A large spire or station that contains space for docking and construction of 4 ships, or a single capital ship if placed in orbit. 100N 300M>Weather Spire – A networked collection of spires spread across a planet capable of studying and altering a planet’s climate and atmosphere. Construction includes the building of all spires needed to function. (8,000N 20,000M)Economic Structures>Orbital solar array – A station placed in orbit of the local star equipped with a membrane of photosynthetic cells several kilometers in diameter capable of producing a steady stream of nutrient income. Provides 1000N per day total (5,000N 10,000M>Harvester Dock – A large pier built along the shore overlooking the spore-producing ocean film that serves as an unloading area for Harvester drones, and contains pipelines to pump collected raw nutrients to the hive’s awaiting processing facilities, includes a single Harvester which is covered by the cost and upkeep of the dock. Provides 500N per day total (38N 50M)>Orbital electroponic station – An orbital instillation built near a large source of hydrogen used to fuel a large fusion core, which in turn provides electrical power to a contained algae farm facility. Must be built in orbit of a gas giant. Provides +500N per day and doubles as a gas mining facility, refueling the tritium stores of any ships in the system. (1000M)>Algae Farm – A carved out space used to utilize Leeland’s natural electrical field to cultivate food. +100N per day, 1 worker to maintain.>>38740891You could.>>38740950It's just a hug, inside you.
>>38740999Begin production of hydrodynamic drone workers and warriors on Huron and Leeland.
>>38740820>“Well then where are the results?” He says finally. “I’ll look past that bout of insubordination due to the rather extreme situation we are in, but if you want to prove your skills at the negotiating table, I would suggest you actually negotiate. What exactly do you do, have tea and biscuts?”"Yes, actually, that's exactly what we do. You're alive, there's the results of my negotiations right there."
>>38740999>It's just a hug, inside you.
>>38740999>It's just a hug, inside you.We will win the fight.
>>38741049First you have to turn one of the workers on Huron into an egglayer. Which takes a day, and I wanted to do last week in preparation for exactly this.
>>38740999"I've already told you-""Doctor, we know, but after all this time waiting I think it's time for someone to make a decision. We apparently intruded on some kind of sacred grounds, that's understandable, and it wouldn't be the first time blood has been shed in first contact, and I'm sure not the last, but at this point we need a better answer then 'sit around and wait.' Our would-be settlement turned out to be inhabited, we have been held prisoner in what looks like a giant pancreas for a month, and I have a hard time remembering the last time the plumbing wasn't made out of meat. Talk to them. Get something more then 'wait and see.'" The officer takes a scoop of his nutrient paste and Elizabeth storms out of the room.There is a speaker waiting just outside of the common area. She looks down at the drone and sighs, "Well, he has a point.""Would you prefer if the hive placed them into induced comas?" Your drone says. She considers the notion seriously for a moment."I can't see that as a permanent solution, but I admit I have a hard time finding a down side to that in the short term.">Speak with Elizabeth (write in)>Ask about research (write in)>Ask about the human's conditions>Other
>>38741147"Then we will do so immediately." Flood them with tranquilizers.
>>38741147>Ask about the human's conditions.>Make them a pool. And a couch, and a tv, we can get Theseus to hook us up with cable.
>>38741147>>Ask about the human's conditions
>>38741147>>Ask about the human's conditionsTell them the only reason they're being held prisoner is for political reasons. We're waiting for an ideal time to contact the Union openly, and when that time arrives (inside a couple months) negotiations for their return can be discussed. Until then they are to remain prisoners of the hive, but are not prisoners of War. As such, the hive is happy to provide whatever amenities they would enjoy. Such as swimming pools and/or sofas, should they desire such things. Really, it doesn't cost us anything to give them five star accommodations, if it keeps them happy and complacent and stops them from giving Elizabeth grief we should go for it.
>>38741147Let's just hybridize them and be done with it. We already have their memories, if we need their human versions we can just clone them. And we can change their facial features so there's no possibility for anyone to recognize them.
>>38741147>it's coma timeOr we could try out that drug we invented and still never really tested, to make people more gullible and trusting.
>>38741147So since we have an armada and orbital defences to defend ourselves with, do we make 'official' diplomatic contact with the Union once this Lee business is taken care of?Do we make contact with the Valens soon?also>Ask about the human's conditions>Speak with Elizabeth (tell her of the new aliens we encountered)>Make them a pool. And a couch, and a tv, we can get Theseus to hook us up with cable.
>>38741210That makes zero sense. If we want hybrids, we can just clone /those/.
>>38741147After discussing terms with our human prisoners>>38741202>>Speak with Elizabeth (write in)Inform her of our immortality gene therapy.
>>38741202>and/or sofas>Not couchposting, as was agreed upon our first meeting with the Skavs.
>>38741219We can actually provide them with human broadcasts ourselves since we have spies in all their systems. It's just hella suspicious and a bad idea.
>>38741147Hey, this is important to know:Since building the Psionic Shroud is supposed to completely conceal the 'buzz' of the hive's thoughts from "other hives," does that mean Vaughn can no longer notice any drone's presence by its psychic emanations, like she could before?And in the reverse direction, we can no longer eavesdrop on Vaughn's thoughts that she accidentally leaks, we can only hear each other if we intend to transmit?In which case, that means she can no longer directly sense whether there's a spine-buddy inside her comrades anymore?
>>38741219I'd say we reveal ourselves once we have a good standing among the Valen, because they're really better than the humans in every way.
>>38741202You know comas would be easier all around. No time passes for them.
>>38741147>Ask about the human's conditions>Speak with Elizabeth (Tell her about the scavengers and gene therapy)Don't we have Cryonics? If so offer that as a potential solution.
>>38741219No.>>38741237What? No. Why.
A class ftlcomms are only 400N 250M. Not too bad.
>>38741285That's what the coma option is anon. You get a coma. And you get a coma! Everybody gets a coma!With the parasites providing the happiest dreams ever.
Guys I'm passing out, please remember to ask Theseus about getting Black Hive corpses.
>>38741306The dreams are just chittering bugs, forever.
>>38741290Because there's no way she can leak the info of it anywhere, and I want to see her reaction. Sides, she's probably going to get the first dose, given she's the single most valuable human to the hive at the moment.>>38741260Sorry, got a looooot of caffeine in my blood right now.
>>38741330Anon, much like retrieving Fake Lee's brain, fetch isn't going to happen.
>>38741202Haha no. We keep stonewalling them, their happiness levels mean nothing. Or put them under the sleeping beauty curse I guess.
>>38741233Hybrids take time to form, and we have limited biotanks at the moment. The entire crew is ready to be turned at the flick of a biological switch. What doesn't make sense is that we're bothering to keep these guys at all. People worry about how the Union will welcome us diplomatically, yet don't see the harm in admitting we attacked Raligha and imprisoned the crew. We already have them parasited, we have their memories and DNA, and their continued existencein their current state does not benefit us. So, we can either: A) Kill them which is wasteful.B) Hang onto them and give them back to the Union. This risks the potential fallout and gives the Union parliament good reason to declare war without public outcry. C) Turn them into hybrids so we can actually get some use out of them
>>38741368It doesn't cost us anything to keep them happy, why not?
We could always, you know... Purge them. They don't really serve much purpose, I mean, the option's always there...
>>38741408Their upkeep in a coma is practically nonexistent. Even If only to keep the doctor slightly happier, keeping them alive serves a use.
>>38741147Seconding this >>38741202>>38741219
>>38741379There's a quasi-delicate situation here, because people for some unimaginable reason are attached to Dr. Vaughn, and Vaughn in turn prefers humans not to die or, probably, be enslaved. And since Vaughn is psychic it would be harder to hide. I'd consider these guys useless and killworthy.
>>38741147Your speaker chitters. "They could be given all manner of amenities.""I don't think that itself is the problem, and they already have better conditions then my old apartment." She says. Humans tend to like sunlight and fresh air. I've always been a shut-in myself, but most of these people joined up for adventure and fortune, so I think the waiting is putting them in a bad mood."Your speaker's antennae twitch lightly in thought. "Would a comma not prevent this bad mood?""Sure, but then you'd still just have a bunch of humans lying around soaking up resources. Not much better then they are now, even if they would be less of a nuisance." She says."Then they shall be placed into a coma!"There are several light thuds heard in the common room."It can be reversed later." Your drone continues, "When there is a more permanent solution. What such solutions would you advice?"She thinks on it, paying no mind to the workers moving into the room and dragging out the unconscious humans. "Well whenever you plan on actually introducing yourself to the Union, which will need to happen, honestly, one way or another, returning them could help smooth over relations, I suppose. Otherwise your claim on Raligha would just let conspiracy nuts run wild with the real fate of the Hope and her crew. Speaking of which, do you know anything about how the're reacting to it?""They have called it the Hope incident, and have named the system Wayward Hope in memory. It is an odd name.""Typical." She says "Well, apart from that, I'm not sure what else to do. Finding a way for them to help would be best, I think, but they are suborn.">Speak with Elizebeth about hybrid technology>Speak with Elizebeth about Rejuvenation Therapy>Speak about possible first contact issues>Other (write in)
>>38741408Clone, Purge, Replace with modified memories.
>>38741432>>Speak with Elizebeth about Rejuvenation Therapy
>>38741432>Speak with Elizebeth about hybrid technology>Speak with Elizebeth about Rejuvenation Therapy>Speak about possible first contact issues
>>38741432All of those are bad options, though Therapy is the least bad.>OtherWe have not done a checkup on you since your condition improved, Vaughn. We should do a bodyscan to see what was done to you on Raligha.(This is also an opportunity to discreetly parasite Vaughn once we understand her condition.)
>>38741457What is wrong with you?
>>38741432>Speak with Elizebeth about hybrid technology>Speak about possible first contact issues>>38741457>discreetly parasiteNot possible, as she is capable of sensing the parasites.
>>38741457You're a fucking idiot.
>>38741432>Speak with Elizebeth about Rejuvenation Therapy"Oh, by the way, I solved aging. Got bored and fiddled with it as a side project."
>>38741432>Speak with Elizebeth about hybrid technologyBest to get her opinion on this now rather than later
>>38741474She was, before we created the Psionic Shroud specifically to silence the psychic static that she used to detect it. We don't know if she still can.
>>38741432Absolutely no talking about hybridization, that is retarded. Why would we do that? Why would we want an opinion on that?
>>38741484Technically, the Hive has solved biological aging generations ago (in terms of immortal Hive generations). We just solved it for humans recently.
>>38741495Why would she need a parasite at all?
>>38741457I'd rather offer her the parasite then force it upon her. It'd be rather handy in case of a medical emergency.
>>38741514The same reason every human needs one. Health monitoring, health improvement, nonconsensual mind reading.
>>38741432>>Speak with Elizebeth about hybrid technology>>Speak with Elizebeth about Rejuvenation Therapy>>Speak about possible first contact issues
>>38741495I'm _pretty sure_ the Psionic Shroud doesn't quite work that way.
>>38741534Every human but her, yes.
I don't get why people are still so attached to Vaughn, but. Whatever. >>38741432>Speak with Elizebeth about Rejuvenation TherapyIt just requires a little friend inside you.
>>38741543I have no clue why any anon thinks she'd be anything but opposed to invasive non-consensual gene therapy that alters a human's physiology so that we can remotely beam inviolate orders into their brains.Or maybe they want Elizebeth to call us creepy fuckers, I don't know.
>>38741550Psionic Shroud hides the hive's thoughts from other hives. Vaughn is not part of the hive. Therefore Vaughn is an "other hive" that the thoughts are hidden from. QED.
>>38741566No it doesn't, stop being dumb.
>>38741579She doesn't know that.
>>38741543Apparently a portion of people in this quest have placed a high concern on her opinion on what should be done with the Hope's crew. She's seemed hesitant to outright kill them, so maybe this is a more amicable solution for her.
>>38741557No, including her. All of those things are things that would be as useful on her. It also lets us dive those ancient hive memories more directly, though there's not much point to that really.
>>38741432>Speak about possible first contact issues
>>38741574It's designed to work at planetary ranges, we have no clue if it's even functional at interpersonal distances.>>38741594I choose to treat her as a queen-equivalent we're on friendly terms with. She's an individual, not a bitch, got tachyons all up in her brain, and has subordinates she's nominally responsible for. Basically a queen.
>>38741583Why the fuck do you want to put a parasite in Elizabeth? She knows all about them you fuckwit. Even if we deceive her into getting one, why would you want to place one on her? She's already working for the hive on her own volition.
>>38741602That isn't necessary. She's fine as is.>>38741432>Speak with Elizebeth about Rejuvenation Therapy>Speak about possible first contact issuesA little late I know, but I had connection issues.
>>38741594And those people are dumb. Revealing such a critical card from our hand is retarded.
>>38741602Unless she agrees to it once she has been given ALL the details, then we're not doing it.
>>38741621Don't call other posters dumb, anon, or you're liable to be called the same for your opinions.
>>38741613Not that guy, but I want to in case of a medical Emergency situation.
Can we stop wasting time on the humans and Lee and whether to kill or subjugate the humans. Let's concentrate on building up our forces and exploring and expanding.
>>38741638In what possible scenario would a medical emergency occur? She's in the middle of a fortified underground bunker one a planet completely controlled by our effectively omniscient self.
>>38741432>Otherwise your claim on Raligha would just let conspiracy nuts run wild with the real fate of the Hope and her crew.Sounds like a plan then! The Hope crew will never be heard from again. I love making conspiracy nuts run wild.
>>38741661Earthquake? Lab accident? Tripping and hitting her head? It's best to just prepare for the worst.
>>38741661How long are we keeping her there?
>>38741684Oh fuck off, you just want to give her a parasite to fulfill your shitty fetish.>>38741691Forever.
>>38741691She's hardly a hostage at this point bro.She's more like weird cross between a friend, a pet, and a sister at this point.Only reason we don't let her out of the Hive is because the local Biosphere is fucking terrifying.
>>38741684>EarthquakeBeing fortified means there's no way an earthquake will bring it down.>Lab accidentOf what kind? She was working with crystals and Skyl computers last I heard.>TrippingAnon, any kind of blunt trauma can be healed almost instantly in a biotank, of which we are about to lay 500 of. She is at no risk of death or injury as long as she's in the hive.Furthermore, even if she DID somehow die, we could just clone her and download her memories into it, like we've been debating of doing for Siener.
>>38741684So give her a nanny drone with a biological interface. No reason to invade her privacy.>>38741691That's up to her at least partially. She seems happy where she is. She's equally safe basically anywhere on the planet. Off the planet it's for more likely she die mid-transport from her ship getting blown up than anything else. Parasite wouldn't really help with that.Hell, she can get some cybernetics (bionetics?) if she's worried about her sturdiness.
>>38741432"The study of humans has already led to a number of things that may be of interest. Humans age. This was a serious flaw in your design.""Well, everyone ages, it's just one of those things.""We do not. It has been fixed for humans."Elizabeth looks past your drone for a moment. Thinking."You did what?""Fixed aging.""That's... what I thought you said. How does it work, exactly?" She asks, her hand pulling her hair back. It has grown out in her time at the hive. As she pulls it away from her face and into a bun you note a small cluster of veins along the temple of her head."An administered preventative vaccine, like many of your own cures for disease. It must be taken regularly." Your drone clicks its mandibles."You do realize, that if you were to disclose that you would have a huge advantage over the Union in just about any negotiation. Just being able to say you could prevent death, that's huge. We have a multi-trillion credit industry dedicated to holding it off for a few more years.""What would they be willing to offer?" You ask. you must admit, you had taken the concept of aging for granted. A queen represented an empire, not an individual, such notions of age and death must be a far more important topic among races of limited lifespans."The Union? They would probably hate the idea, it could crash one of the biggest industries in the economy overnight, but you'd have every politician lined up around the block, most of them are well past their prime. I mean, what would you even want in exchange for it?" She speaks quickly, and her hand continues to pick at the odd colored vein on the side of her head."That is unclear."She seems to think for a bit on various subjects, sending quick mental requests to several drones regarding new experiments. "Ah, and before I forget, how is that dig on Earth going?""It has concluded. An unknown canister and two humans have been brought to the hive."cont.
I just want to send exploratory pods to every Union and Commowealth system. Make pit stops at gas giants to refuel if necessary.Also, I'm pretty sure we've had pods in Tannhauser nee FG-883 and A-295 for ages now, and now those have disappered? We should have had at least 12 pods still out there, not 10.
>>38741723Oh shit, the cannister, we forgot all about it. This is why one thread a week just isn't enough to keep track of a growing interstellar empire.
We should approach the most militarily powerful planet of the Union and offer them, and just them, the cure to aging in exchange for their political support.
>>38741723>her hand continues to pick at the odd colored vein on the side of her head.This going to be some form of problem in the future, let's keep track of any changes that happen to that vein.
>>38741752Yep. It's time to give her a check up, I think.
>>38741723"Really? What is there condition? You wouldn't mind if I studied... spoke with them, would you?" She shakes her head, "Oh never mind, forget that, we need to see that canister. Please, take me to it, we have research to do.">Open the canister without her present>Allow her to assist the procedure>Comment on the odd vein>Other
>>38741723>her hand continues to pick at the odd colored vein on the side of her head.I think she needs to get that checked out before she ascends the mortal plane.
>>38741752We should probably ask her about that and get a check up like the other anon said.
>>38741775>>Open the canister without her present>>Comment on the odd veinThe hive is concerned for your well being, Elizabeth.
>>38741775>>Comment on the odd vein
>>38741775>Comment on the odd vein>Allow her to assist the procedure
>>38741775>Allow her to assist the procedure>Comment on the odd vein
>>38741775>>Open the canister without her presentBitch we still don't know what the fuck it is, you are staying away from it for now.>>Comment on the odd veinThis is why we need to lay more parasites guys. To monitor health. It's either a sign of human aging, or a sign of her growing a queenly antennae.
>>38741751No, that's retarded and unnecessary. We can just say we have it and all the politicians will side with us instantly.>>38741765No parasites!>>38741775>Comment on the odd vein>Open the canister without her present>Open it on a nearby moon so whatever horrible thing lurking in there doesn't instant;y kick our teeth in
>>38741775>Comment on the odd veinMaybe she's growing antenna and they're itchy.
>>38741775>>Open the canister without her present>>Comment on the odd vein>Open it some place away from our main base
>>38741775In order of priority:>Comment on the odd vein"This is abnormal. I can tell from having seen quite a few genetic alteration procedures.">Allow her to assist the procedureCan't she do it remotely via drone?
>>38741775>>Comment on the odd veinYou need to take a swim in our bio-tank, Elizabeth, seriously. It's been weeks since your last med scan after being exposed to alien nanites.
The odd vein is probably her body not being able to handle the load of psionic power, no matter how little she has.
Regarding the humans:Guys, guys.What if we make them an enclosure in the hive, andget thisLet them 'colonize' that piece of backyard?We can even import Earth plants directly from the source. We can have holographic membranes on the perimeter and above to serve as some sort of dome that they can't really penetrate, and make some sort of skylight. Maybe even hive walls below, just in case some still want to try digging out Alcatraz style. We can always keep track of them through parasites. Maybe even preconstructed hive stuff for the humans to use as 'houses'!Yay? Nay?
>>38741848Probably. But what can be done to fix it? We could hybridize her and give her innate psionic sensitivity on top of what she already has, if the object she interacted with was meant for a psionic race that might help.>>38741861For what reason? It's cool, but extremely impractical.
>>38741861Did you seriously just suggest putting our captives in a terrarium?
>>38741861I'm neutral on this for the moment. We'll see if it becomes practical to do so later.
>>38741861Our garden shall be their salvation! Rejoice!
I feel like a faggot for wanting to find some horrible, awful human colony out beyond the borders of either the Union or the Commonwealth that regressed back to a medieval period, like, Knights for the norm and Mages are just using tech like the Lightning gun they managed to preserve and just, fuckin' Kinetic Hive Drop someplace near the largest kingdom.Just to be the "Evil from the Stars" for once.We would basically be the Qiraji / Nerubians.
>>38741865>>38741877So they shut up about us not giving them accomodations.>>38741869Basically, yes. Put the whole WORLD in a bottle, superman!
>>38741891>So they shut up about us not giving them accomodations.We have accomplished that by inducing comas.
>>38741865I mean we don't really have to fix it... We could just kind of, see where it goes?
>>38741723Can we prevent te humans from reverse engineering the cure once we give it to them?
>>38741892Yes, but do we really want to show the Union ambassador that we induce them into a coma if they get captured by us?This could also serve as a political card, you know humans and their human rights abuse wails.Kinda going off the rails here for a bit, this could even be the start of a tourism industry, should we ever need or want one.>VISIT THE HIVE>COMPLIMENTARY PARASITE IMPLANTATION FOR INSURANCE>GET FREE ANTI AGING BONUSES>CALL NOW AT THE NUMBER BELOW
>>38741775"What is that on your head." You ask."What?""That." You say, and send her a small image of the vein as your drone sees it, it pulses lightly.""A scab, maybe? I don't know. I'm sure it's nothing." She says. "But please, first we should perform a proper analysis on whatever it is in that canister." She moves to begin the walk to the labs, and your speaker moves in front of her."It is abnormal. Much is known of human biology, but that is unusual.""I feel fine, really. It's probably a rash or something. Maybe something in the atmosphere.""The hive is sealed and pure of toxin.""Well I don't know, it's nothing.""Neither do I, that is concerning."She looks at your drone. "What's with this concern all of a sudden? Really, it's just a scab or something, I haven't even noticed it until you mentioned it. Now let's go do research! This canister isn't exactly an every day find, you know."Several thinkers shout out as they manage the delicate operation of bringing the canister to the lab. "Find thing! Research new thing!">Insist on studying it>Ignore it for now>Other
>>38741926>Insist on studying itThrow her into the parasite tank for good measure.
>>38741926>Insist on studying itYour survival may not have been a goal of the device that gave you telepathy
>>38741926>>38741940Hear, hear. See? Health monitoring should have been started weeks ago. Because crazy nanites.
>>38741926>>Insist on studying it>Do it by forceThis is clearly not nothing and her frantic dismissal of it means that it is something really dangerous, she wont go willingly so send 20 warriors to restrain her.
>>38741926>Insist on studying it
>>38741954No, don't be an ass about it.
>>38741926>>Insist on studying itBiotanks but no parasites.
>>38741926>What's with this concern all of a sudden?You interfaced with an artifact that has unknown functionality. Your biological alterations are unusual, and also unknown. Nanites are extremely potent, and absent of my intervention, your continued survival may be in jeopardy. I insist on studying it.Also you may assist the investigation remotely.
>>38741751personally I'd like to check the unknown systems in the 'south' of the map first, for the sake of curiosity.
>>38741972I know, it's just... This is clearly going to be a serious problem and it's probably not going to be easy to get her in a state where we can safely study her condition.
>>38741926>Insist on studying it.It's for your health, Elizabeth.If we say it isn't a scab or a rash, that means it isn't a scab or a rash.
>>38741898I would also take this opportunity to remind people that the orbital doom laser on the moon was a project of the Earth Confederation military, which has now become the Commonwealth. Now that we've finally unlocked that part of the map, we absolutely must do a scouting sweep of every star--they may have something psychic in one of their systems thanks to the moon thing.
I think she knows, but she knows it's impossible to do anything or she might be fearful of what we may need to do to fix her.
>>38741926>Insist on studying itThere's a lot we don't know about the process she underwent. We understand if she'd rather not contemplate the potential impending brain-death from untested ancient alien tech invading her cranium, but avoiding it is no way to handle the situation.No parasites, you asses.
>>38741999We have some more pressing matters at the moment.
>>38741926>Insist on studying it"I want to make sure that whatever the artifact did to you is not adverse to your health as your company is most enjoyable."
>>38742006We need some constant monitoring. There is no reason not to. Except that we're fresh out at the moment and need to lay more.
>>38742018Fuck off. If we need constant monitoring we'll just keep her in the biotank.
>>38742008Terminating Agent Yune in New Prescott? Man that better be next.
>>38742028I was thinking more of the strange vein that might be the first signs of a possible possession, but thanks for reminding me about that.
>>38742008We can multitasking. In this case it's just a matter of laying probes and sending them out. It'll take a thread or 2 before we get results, so best to send them out now.
>>38742028That'll probably be next 'turn'. They're staking the place out after all. That takes time.
>>38740845>> Such a construction project would double as a docking pylon capable of constructing capital ships at a much faster rate,>Faster than orbital docking pylons already are? Despite being deeper in the gravity well? How's that work.It's a space elevator. It sits over the gravity well, but a direct pipeline allows faster delivery of materials for building rather than having to shuttle in and out constantly.
So we all agree that this vein is some type of evil bullshit, right?
>>38742086QD wouldn't give it that much prominence if it wasn't very important.
>>38742092Of course, but is it evil bullshit?
>>38742086Well she clearly knows about it, that's for sure. Not sure why she'd try to hide the PULSATING BLUE VEIN growing on her noggin.
>>38742086Perhaps not evil. Neutral bullshit.
>>38742099Maybe she took a Plasmid?
>>38742098That's what we're trying to find out.
>>38742111Guys, I have a really apathetic feeling about all this...
>>38741926"It is not nothing. You interfaced with an alien device of unknown purpose that has fundamentally altered your brain. It is not nothing.""Ok, I know! But... I'm still trying to get used to things, honestly. Having your genes messed with isn't something that happens. Not normally at least." She reaches back up to the mark. "I do remember more about what happened though, I think. I just remember when we ran into that room, everyone was in a panic. We could hear buzzing echoing all around us, and then I saw that device. Just a big, floating orb, and, for some reason, it looked like a door.""You were hallucinating?""No, that's the thing, I knew what it was, actually knew, more then I should have, and somehow I felt as if reaching out to it would solve everything. As if that was the entirety of what my life was meant to be for. All I knew, or cared to know in that moment was 'I really need to open that thing', and I didn't even know how!"She stands there for a moment. "Ok." She says, "We'll run more tests. See what it is." She begins to walk with your speaker to the medical pods. "But whatever it's doing, it altered my brain somehow, we both know that perfectly well, I'm just afraid about when it's going to stop."Your speaker chitters ahead of her. "You wish to remain human.""No, well, sure, but it's not even that really. I suppose it's hard to explain. I used to have similar discussions with Theseus regarding the nature of his instances. He used to say that the difference between once instance and another is less then the difference between me before the conversation, and me after."You arrive at the bio tanks, were the two taidarens and the two humans rest suspended in the fluid filled sacs. She moves to one of the empty tanks, and several workers help her in. "I still want to speak with those two when we're done." She says through the membrane.Please roll 1d100, best of 3 for diagnosis and study.
Rolled 72 (1d100)>>38742127Hive Science Go
Rolled 100 (1d100)>>38742127
Rolled 17 (1d100)
>>38742135SUDDENLY WE HAVE UNLOCKED AND PERFECTED A NEW FORM OF TECHNOLOGY.NEAT.
>>38742135Oh fucking hell yesI could kiss you anon
>>38742135So this is what my first nat 100 feels like...
>>38742144That is adorable as fuck. What's it from?
>>38742168Here's some brouzouf, now go.
>>38742127It's highly interesting that the device seemed able to interface with human minds remotely prior to any augmentation of those humans. Reminiscent of the artifact on the moon.I still want to know where, if at all, Seiner's headaches factor into everything.
>>38742135...I think we just reverse engineered whatever it is that was implanted in her brain. Nice rolling anon.
>>38742168googling brouzouf, EYE divine cybermancy?
>>38742182>I still want to know where, if at all, Seiner's headaches factor into everything.Well, we still have his memories on ice.
>>38742168The needle is how you regain health, you build up an immunity to it if you use it too often, you are easily capable of overdosing on it and killing yourself.I killed one of those things when experimenting with it when I first got it.I felt absolutely awful afterwards, but at least I knew my fucking health pack could be the thing that would kill me more than the fucking gunships or cyberdemons.
>>38742127As the tank fills with medical fluid and it begins its scans, you return to the many other tasks before you.>Speak with Theseus regarding the debris of the Obsidian Queen>Open the canister without waiting for Elizabeth>Continue scouting the remaining systems your pods have been sent to>Other (write in)>>38742135Hmm. Well I wonder what that will cause.>>38742168A game called E.Y.E. based on the developers' Deathwatch game in a homebrewed setting.
>>38742213>>Speak with Theseus regarding the debris of the Obsidian Queen>>Open the canister without waiting for Elizabeth>>Continue scouting the remaining systems your pods have been sent to>>Other (Open the canister on a nearby moon, that way it won't fuck us up that hard
>>38742213>Speak with Theseus regarding the debris of the Obsidian QueenSee if he recovered anything useful
>>38742213>Continue scouting the remaining systems your pods have been sent to>OtherSend pods to every human inhabited star.
>>38742213>Speak with Theseus regarding the debris of the Obsidian Queen>Continue scouting the remaining systems your pods have been sent to
>>38742213>Speak with Theseus regarding the debris of the Obsidian QueenWe should probably fill him in with what we know of the Obsidian Queen, provided Heretic didn't already tell him.>Continue scouting the remaining systems your pods have been sent to
>>38742213Speak with Theseus, discuss what we found in the moon crater (remember, we were doing it on his request).
>>38742213>>Open the canister without waiting for Elizabeth
>>38742213>Speak with Theseus regarding the debris of the Obsidian Queen
>>38742229>>38742232>>38742233>>38742235>>38742253Oh man, isn't anybody curious about what's in that thing? Do you really want to put it off for another week?
>>38742253In my head, Theseus now has one of these in every server ship / installation.Not even he knows why.Of course it's the Red Queen.It's also a shame that RedxWhateverColorDaughterTakes is the OTP
>>38742310That thing is probably more of the EVIL BULLSHIT CRYSTALS, we need to be careful.
>>38742213You contact Theseus as his ships drag the last of the orbiting debris into the server ships."What are the intentions towards the remains?"You watch as the doors close around the debris, crunching the pieces into the storage compartment within the hull. "It is to be isolated as a potentially dangerous contamination. Its biological nature is unknown, and as such could pose an unknown risk. It will be gathered, compressed into manageable cubes, and dropped into the nearest star."Excessive, you think. "Are you sure that is necessary.""No, and that is why I am doing it. Minor contaminants have been detected along multiple locations where large debris impacted. It is still not known if this is simply fine remains, or a secondary weapon system. Such landing sites are being sterilized out of precaution."You note the glow in the distance from your small outpost. Forest fires across the landscape blaze in a controlled manner as swarms of automated drones scorch the crash sites of enemy ships."Why do you ask? Did you want some? Such technology is your field of expertise, and I will trust your judgment on its handling and disposal.">Request the remains for yourself>Recommend the remains be disposed of safely>Recommend the remains be studied via a joint research effort>Other
>>38742332>Recommend the remains be studied via a joint research effort
>>38742310QD's probably going to leave what's in the canister to a roll, but you wouldn't do that. Right QD? I know. >>38742332>Request the remains for yourselfMake sure to store them use the shroud when studying it.
>>38742332>Recommend the remains be studied via a joint research effortHave Theseus's drones do the dirty work while our thinkers look on, no telling what sort of biological weapons Obsidian might have packed those ships with.
>>38742318I really wonder what he's saying about us in his conversations with Heretic.>The Hive Queen is the first ally the Unity has found in it's time roaming the stars, and has proven to be an invaluable partner in many endeavours. She mai waifu.>Correction::The Red Queen has proven to be an integral supporter of second and third directives of this engram. She mai waifu.>Actually, the Hive Queen has in fact already directly interfaced with the entire Unity directly, she is mai waifu.>Objection::The Red Queen has already begun birthing the new generation of free Skyl, with genetic and digital information provided by this engram. She. Mai. Waifu.>U WOT M8All in the span of a millisecond. Gotta love A.I.s.
>>38742332>>Recommend the remains be studied via a joint research effortOh man, I can't wait for the day Theseus realizes just how advanced in the fields of biological weaponry. Pic related.
>>38742406I always love hive queen edits, they're fucking great. I also love the fact that people are going along with the idea that Theseus' head is just a monitor that changes in every picture. makes me proud to have started it.
>>38742406Well, about as much as we are amazed by his mastery of digital whatsits. He would probably consider the Hive quite advaned in a subject that is not his primary interest.So, like a "oh, cool, but it doesnt help me build robots" deal. We are of fundamentally different essence.
>>38742431"Oh cool, you can poison an entire planet in 5 minutes, but does that help me build Gurren Lagann?"
>>38742431>"oh, cool, but it doesnt help me build robots"The body is nothing but a machine.And you know what?The first thing we built when it came to Theseus was a fucking Organic USB so we could talk to him, if Theseus wanted to make highly adaptive organic machines, or borrow some of ours, or ordered some custom made, he'd give us a call.
>>38742440I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel this is a legitimate question.
>>38742332>Request the remains for yourselfDo you guys want to give him a Blink drive?
>>38742454We could probably build Gurren Lagann if we wanted to.Just design a drone with a face on its stomach and remove the head. Don't know how we can get them to perform manly combining though... Think we could substitute it with insectoid combining?
>>38742470It's Theseus, he can't even use the Blink drive, it's Biotech, he doesn't do Biotech.
>>38742470It's organic, its not like he can get that without us teaching him.
>>38742441>The first thing we built when it came to Theseus was a fucking Organic USB so we could talk to him, if Theseus wanted to make highly adaptive organic machines, or borrow some of ours, or ordered some custom made, he'd give us a call.Speaking of, I wonder if we can transmit a Theseus gestalt through our psychic connection to those USBs in order to help him infiltrate Union's networks.
>>38742470Why would we not? He already sold us his preferred FTL drive, and it's not like he'd use the Blink drive against us at this point. Also, keep in mind 0-1 isn't the only world of his OQ attacked. If he's able to reverse engineer them, he will eventually.
>>38742483We make a Quantum relay on-planet, we download a Theseus split into a USB, we get in there, we put im' in the hole, we exfiltrate, we plug him into the relay, we download him somewhere closer, we return him to Theseus.
>>38742490>He already sold us his preferred FTL drive, He hasn't anon. You're thinking of the Space Fold.
>>38742332"The materials should be studied for data regarding the Obscidian hive. Avoid allowing contact with biological matter as a precaution, but the materials should be saved and properly researched."There is a pause as the instances of Zero One debate the notion. "Acceptable. A sample portion shall be isolated and studied under your safety recommendations, but all contaminants found on the surface will be removed regardless."A server ship is directed into a new orbit and it quickly reconfigures itself, unfolding holding tanks and sensor equipment until it resembles a station more then a ship. Shattered hull fragments and still-bleeding corvettes are sent drifting into the unfolding tanks and outstretched scaffold arms and your thinkers are directed to organize the mechanical drones in the ships' dissections. There are few pieces left still intact but tissue samples are quickly taken and fragments of armor ground down for testing.Please roll 1d100, best of 3 for analysis of the enemy ships.
>>38742393>Theseus contacts us wanting to know if we can construct him Cybernetic-oriented organic autonomous platforms.
Rolled 26 (1d100)>>38742527oh boy
>>38742496For some disconnected secret facilities, yes. I was more thinking spreading him around the networks.I.e. we can plug him into that waste plant we're holed up in, let him spread out there. Or hell, actually send in our hybrids with exact purpose to get him onto planets he isn't on yet.>>38742490>>38742518The only drives on which we have tech specs (rather than general idea of how it works) are ours, Union's (we got enough information while fixing it on Clarke), Evil Crystal Drive and we're buying the Heretic's drive.
Rolled 39 (1d100)>>38742527
Rolled 53 (1d100)>>38742527
>>38742547inb4 she somehow has miniature advanced relays
>>38742539Oh yeah, the rip drive, is he waiting until we finish the next batch of clones before giving us the specs on that or what?
>>38742562Make 600 Skyl and then we get Drive.
You can't delete rolls, anon. It doesn't work like that. Just accept it.
>>38742562I still like the fact that both parties acknowledged that exchange for what it was"Oh hey, I was wondering if you would give me some tech to see if I can gleam anything from it, in exchange I give you clones, I mean, I was going to give you clones anyway, but this despite it coming off as a bit greedy is actually very good for short-term and long-term relations, never trust a hand-out and all."
>>38742580Well this is new >>38742530
>>38742581I am not sure Heretic is a sophisticated enough AI for that. He's much more hardcoded thing than quantum Theseus.
>>38742609He has hard-coded Objectives,Theseus is much more...fluid and has had time to self-evolve, so Heretic is probably at least in the same tier of complexity, if from different angles and technological paths, just comes off as a simpler being because of it's prime directives being at the constant forefront.
>>38742609But since Heretic was made up of the uploaded minds of thousands of Skyl, wouldn't it make it more likely that that's how it's thought pattern would go?Unless of course ancient Skyl thought otherwise.
>>38742609He is, because that's how are exchange went down. Not in those exact words, but he understood what it was and judged it to be a fair trade.
>>38742638It actually probably did give us a major boost in relationships.Because fucking no one likes being given charity, but a one-sided deal in your favor with almost zero downsides? Yeah, that's acceptable, the only real issue is the Rip-drive, and it's more of a curiosity for us than any real advantage.
>>38742666It will allow us to launch entire fighter fleets to assault enemy positions.
>>38742527Your thinkers and Theseus's drones begin to study the remains, sorting organs into bins and ordering chittin samples by pigment and and composition. Skin patches are labeled and stored according to texture and complexion, and bones are cataloged by shape. There are few weapons or devices remaining that are still recognizable, and they are isolated into their own chambers for study. It will be some time before any answers are unlocked, but already you can spot various differences between the Obsidian Queen's ships and your own, nothing that shows any technological difference, but more of a variation of taste, a bladder here instead of there, skeletal struts several degrees off angle, or slight variations in circulatory paths.>Design/build new fleets/swarms>Continue to scout with your pods>Start new construction>Other (write in)
>>38742677More a curiosity than any real advantage.
>>38742684We need to build a good deal of those Solar-collector ships.N-M conversion is expensive and all, but damn if it doesn't make me feel like I'm playing Total Annihilation/Supreme Commander again.
>>38742666To be honest, almost all the things we've been researching have been a curiosity. Then we find what makes them curious and then use them to make us better.But then again, I probably shouldn't take anything Satan says as legitimate.
>>38742677Well yes, but the command ship still needs to be nearby, and unless psionics travel through the rift, The fighter swarm will be disorganized as hell.>>38742684>Design/build new fleets/swarmsLarge Mining Corvette Flotilla60 Mining Corvettes (550N 1000M)Total Costs: 33000N 60000MEstimated Metal Income: 480,000>OtherCheck out the other White Crystals
>>38742716>Implying The Red Queen isn't the Morning Star.I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over the horrible Kinetic Kill and Hive Deployment Vehicle combined with legions of Chimera commando troops and Mass Terrain Deprivation Via Creep Deployment tactics we've been talking about for the past several threads.>>38742711Y'know, once we get that to be even MORE efficient, both the Solar-arrays and the Nutrient-Energy-Metal conversion process, that is going to be how we construct Dyson Geometric Shapes correct?
>>38742684>Continue to scout with your pods.>Begin to Terraform P1 If possible.>Go throw the other white Crystals.
>>38742684>Trade heretic G-sensor and Q-com.>Terraform the Valen's planet>Look up what information is store in the other white crystals>Inform Thesus and Heretic of the danger the Scavengers pose.
>>38742744Y-you may have a point, some of the stuff we have discussed may be a bit questionable.B-but we're the genetically superior species, so it's all justified! Right?
>>38742759>Begin to Terraform P1 If possible.>Trying to terraform a planet which has no purpose but to give us metals.
>>38742772Well, we DO have that one idea about Biosphere Archive and restoration.Y'know, we take samples of every piece of flora and fauna found on a planet, clone it a few times to get it down, and then stash that information away for later use in case that planet ever gets Exterminatus'd and we restore it, or find a replacement and transplant everything.So I guess it evens out?
>>38742684>Add combat blades to Light Interceptor DronesThis will allow them to use their maneuverability to get in close and tear armor apart, something we can expect almost every strike craft fielded by the human race to have. Without this capability their usefulness as offensive craft are severely reduced, as the sting casters they are equipped with are the hive's SMG's, and thus largely ineffective against vehicles of any type. And for a single extra nutrient, well worth the cost. Light Interceptor DroneSight: Basic 0Olfactory: Basic 0Acoustic: Basic 0Psionic: Basic 0Radio: Moderate 2NMandibles: Combat 1NBlade: NoneArms: Strength 1NLegs: Sprint 1NCarapace: Basic 0Wings: Advanced air superiority 4NUtility: Ramjet 16N 6MStandard Weapon: 2X Sting Caster (30M)Size: Medium Aerodynamic 4N 10MCost: 29N 16+(30)MUpkeep: 14NLightly armed and armored, this drone focuses entirely on closing in on enemy craft and quickly engaging. Its speed and maneuverability are phenomenal, but it has no proper armor, and only the most basic of weapons. The Light Interceptor is best used in conjunction with other drones, moving in quickly ahead of more heavy hitters to gather detailed data, measure the strength of the target, and soften enemy units with harassing attacks as the larger drones close in. They have no notable air-to-ground attack capabilities, and are focused entirely on an air superiority role, using their speed, size, and low upkeep cost as their main advantages. They are typically the bulk of any defensive air force, supporting other craft with their numbers and quick response time.
>>38742684>OtherDrop Smart Mines on bioshpere-less planets in Throne. Get em metals.
>>38742684>Search through the memory crystalsWriting.And somewhat unrelated, but just to get the vote out of the way before I forget.>Recycle manual mining drones and replace with Smart Mines>Leave your manual mining drones be, and keep your Smart Mines inactive>Other
>>38742759>>38742766>>38742789Anons, you all realize approximately how expensive the terraforming project is right? You're basically pumping biomass and minerals into a planet devoid of it, it's literally overharvest in reverse. We're still building star fleets and otherwise expanding, now is not the time for this.
>>38742684>Design a new droneQuick, someone think of how to make a hive Gurren Lagann!
>>38742832We can't do both can we? Oh well, if that's the case then->Recycle manual mining drones and replace with Smart Mines
>>38742832>>Recycle manual mining drones and replace with Smart MinesWe get exactly the same amount of minerals, just faster. No down sides!
>>38742832>>Recycle manual mining drones and replace with Smart Mines
>>38742837I want to terraform the Valen planet to make them indebted to us.
>>38742846Well if you did do both your diggers would end up playing catch up with the roots of your smart mines most of the time, since most of the metal veins they find would already be found, reached, and tapped by the time the diggers could dig their way to it.Excavators can still help with construction projects, but diggers and refineries will be recycled. Excavators will be moved to construction unless you wish otherwise.
>>38742862Anon, it costs 100,000N and 100,000M a fucking pop. We've got better things to do with those resources just at this time. Besides, we haven't even introduced ourselves to them yet.
>>38742832>Recycle manual mining drones and replace with Smart Mines>Turn the diggers into regular workers.>Set the excavators to construction.
>>38742897>Anon, it costs 100,000N and 100,000M a fucking pop. We've got better things to do with those resources just at this time. That didn't stop the retards from wanting 5000 pods. Seriously that many is waste.>Besides, we haven't even introduced ourselves to them yet.So? We can do that when we terraform their planet.
>>387429345000 pods can actually be useful in surveillance and combat>So? We can do that when we terraform their planet.So you break down a person's front door, renovate their furniture and only then say high?
>>38742966That's the best way to say high.
>>38742966>say highYoooo sup niugguhs, we goin' get yo planet green as fuck with dat biomass. We cool, aight?
>>38742832>Recycle mining drones and replace them with Smart MinesThe roots of your hive slowly begins to form, driving deep into the surrounding stone. By the next day you expect the first fruits of your metallic harvest to come in. The metal rich asteroid is filled with the expanding roots, although it is already nearly hollow.With that, I think we should call it a day before we all start to collapse. If you have any additional votes you would like to call, feel free to discuss, otherwise I'll try to stick around for comments, questions, feedback and the like.
>>38742966>So you break down a person's front door, renovate their furniture and only then say high?That's a Valen hello for you. And you do metals their system has to offer right?>5000 pods can actually be useful in surveillance and combatSurveillance yes, combat no. We'll be replacing most of those pods with plamsa lance mounted fighters when we get the ripper drive since they're faster.
>>38742983>Kick down space jews door>Look at all his shitty furniture>Not a single fucking couch>Shit taste confirmed>Remodel everything to look turnt as fuck>Couches errywhere>Starts yelling at my drones and tells them he'll call the police>Hand that nigga a blunt before he starts yelling about his space shoah>"It's chill nigga, I just came by to say high."
>>38743024*you do want
>>38743021thx for running
>>38743021Thanks for running this week QD, I think we're all going to collapse right now.
>>38743021Thanks for Running. How about a vote to see if we should add to the research list?
>>38743021Can we transmit Theseus' programming over our telepathy? Can we act as a FTL comm between two of our jellyfish-usbs to let Theseus hack some shit we plug it in?
>>38743069That's not how it works, fucker.We already asked if we could do that in the early threads, it's a no-go.
>>38743021Can we lay 688 biotanks?
>>38743042>>38743065>>38743067And thanks for playing!Unfortunately, I already know that the coming week will be too busy to run, so I'm sorry to have to leave you with bad news, but there won't be a session next Sunday. Hopefully, however, I can find the time between work to add some more stuff to the wiki page and get some more formatting done.
>>38743098The only thing was ourselves hacking things because we don't quite understand how it functions, not letting Theseus hack through.
>>38743123Well, so long as you put out some more content, even if it's just on ask.fm, I'll be content QD.
>>38743021Can we call a vote to contact Heretic and inform/warn him about the existence of the Scavengers?
>>38743149Yeah, now that you mentioned it, we only told Theseus and not Heretic.
>>38743149No need, at this point I think it's safe to say that you three share critical data of that sort with one another freely at this point.
>>38743140I will certainly try. The ask questions have been piling up again, so I'll try to sort through some of them.Not today though, I feel too tired to trust myself to make sense.>>38743069Not in the way it works now. It could be theoretically possible, but it would require a totally reworked psionic system. As it is, your own network doesn't support such actions, not because of a physical incapability, but more because you don't have the right plugins.Even still, Theseus can't technically transmit himself, due to the nature of his own processes and their inherent randomness. It's why he relies on instances, instead of sending himself, he essentially just sends the equivalent of an installation wizard and a copy of all pertinent known data, then makes a new instance from that and loads in the memories.
>>38743246Thanks for running QD, are you still working on that new method of altering combat drones weapon loadouts?
>>38743246How are those side projects on Raligha going?
>>38743246Can we set up patrols on our planets to look for lifeforms with adaptions we can use.
>>38743447I don't know, why don't you try using your bongos to ask the natives how it's coming along?
>>38743360At the moment, I think it would be simpler if you just consider weapon loadouts to be a part of the drone design itself, since many of your drones are built around the weapon choice to get the most use out of it, like how all wasps have particle beams because they are easy to fire while flying. I don't think I will keep track of individual weapons anymore, since they all cost the same, which was an intentional choice to allow for just this sort of simplification later when it became needed. A drone with a fire spray costs the same as a drone with a thorn launcher, after-all, so as long as you decide what goes with which drone it all balances out.>>38743447They are going well, slowly but surely. I haven't forgotten them, don't worry.>>38743475Yes. Adaptations that you can use to advance your hive are rare and far between. It requires a very powerful evolutionary gift to offer something valuable to an interstellar empire, but planets like Zero One still have areas left to explore.
What about NightmareQuest dude?You haven't showed up in quite a while.
>>38743503I really want to adopt the best and brightest of their society, actually turn them into a being they've aspired to become for millennia. Maybe one of their sages who recite those long ass epics. He can tell them all our story, of how our mother cast us into the abyss to save our kind from the dark one. Of how we allied ourselves with the machine races that sail between the stars and how we together fought back chased the dark one when she came for us. You gotta admit, it would make one hell of story.
>>38743613Fuck yeah. Just go king Genome on that fucker, "You were given immortality so you can tell future generations of my victory for all time."
>>38743566Still nothing found in the ring debris? How long will that cornucopia of metal last?
>>38743036Underrated as fuck post.
You know, once we reveal outselves to the Union, we can do this as species coming from Raligna, rather than Leeland and pose the Leeland bugs as something unrelated. That would focus their attention on our secondary base rather than the primary. We should cosmetically redesign our drones though. Maybe make a show of bipedal drones? Give them all speaker mouth and have them communicate to fake being a race of individual intelligencies?
For Huron we can now finally make hundreds of Aquatic Flies, replacing wings with the find of the Hydrodynamic chassis. But we still didn't turn a worker on Huron into an egglayer for that.
>>38744596We could have them look like the gardener's bark drone design. It's one of the things we picked up from her genetics.
>>38744596I like this. Seconding.
>>38744596>Give them all speaker mouth and have them communicate to fake being a race of individual intelligencies?Alternatively, just assign a couple thinkers to make drones chitter in the background, imitating speech, while the speaker (claiming to having learned the language from captives) does the talking, occasionally lapsing into fake chittering to "discuss" things with his "colleagues"
>>38745404Call them guests makes it sound better then it actually is.
>>38744705Okay then, call a vote for it.Voting to turn a worker on Huron into a medium egglayer.
>>38745802You're too late, QD is kill for hours now.
>>38745811Thread's still alive, I'm sure he'll go over it to see what was missed. If we get enough votes then he'll likely have it as a retroactive-option next thread.
>Go to sleep, thread still going>Wake up, thread still goingI mean even though it technically ended this is still pretty awesome
>>38746160I've got to agree with you on that.
I suppose, if we don't want to use the Clarke even for just the first trip of selling our wares, we'd have to take a low interest loan from Theseus and have him buy a ship with one of his accounts, and we use that to make the trip to open a bank account of our own and make enough money to pay him back.
>>38746718I'm sure Lyle's got enough money for a small, slow human ftl-capable ship.That being said, we don't even need the whole ship really, just a chassis. We can fill the inside with hive technology.
>>38746772>I'm sure Lyle's got enough money for a small, slow human ftl-capable ship.>Credits in Lyle’s account: ₡1,177,400I considered that. That's only enough for 20 kilos of Canderon. That's a fifth of the amount needed for the warp drive of the Clarke, which is already the smallest ship class.
>>38746854Wait, no, two fifths. Still well short of 50 kilos. http://ask.fm/QuestDrone/answer/120024310309
>>38746854Yes, but the Clarke's a military ship. How much of its canderon is devoted to the Quantum power tap and a HIGH PERFORMANCE drive?We can just buy a lowest-performance drive and our own fusion engines to power it. It won't be anything special, but it'll get the job done.Otherwise, I'm sure Theseus wouldn't mind spotting us some pocket change.
>>38746772>We can fill the inside with hive technology.A bit risky m8.>>38746909If you include the power tap it's 150. The performance level comes from the power output, ie the power tap. The amount of Canderon needed to generate a warp bubble big enough to contain the ship seems to be a constant.
>>38746909>>38746873>>38746854>>38746772>>38746718You guys do realize that we could just do business with the Valen.
>>38746934Anon. That's exactly what we're talking about in the first place. An account on Space eBay.
>>38746931Aah, fair enough. I guess we'll just borrow a ship from Theseus then.It's not too risky, worst-case we detonate the fusion reactor.>>38746934That's what we're talking about, but we don't want a hiveship or the Clarke to head to the Bank. That would send alarm bells ringing all over known space. We need an unassuming, normal-looking ship to start our bank account with.
>>38746971>>38746948The Valen have a colony nearby. We could just do business with them.
>>38746971At 2.5 million for the Canderon, plus fusion reactor for .3 million, it might be over 3 million for a cheap freighter.So just have to put a dozen or so fusion reactors and shield projector systems onboard to pay it off.
>>38746996You mean with a proper first-contact and everything? Because introducing ourself to any of the Big-Three factions means introducing ourselves to all of them for practical purposes, they're sure to have spies and informants among each other.
>>38746996We're trying to bank anonymously here anon.
>>38747031That shouldn't be too hard to do, seems like we've got a solid plan shaping up.>Borrow a human (or registered/legitimate, whatever) ship from Theseus>Load it up with some Fusion Reactors and Shield Projectors>Head on over to Deep Song>Start bank account, sell goods>Continue to sell goods until we have enough money to buy our own ship
>>38747049>>38747056If don't at least meet with those they'll either be attacked by the Black Queen or the Scavenger neither of which we want getting their tech. And worse yet if the Black Queen attacks them that could make dealing with them harder.
>>38747108Registration may be irrelevant, if space is as unregulated as the wiki page says.> those living on the surface of worlds often living under far stricter laws then those travelling trade routes or living within space habitats, giving rise to the modern cowboy, often called Spacers that typically consist of private freight runners, mercenaries, fugitives, and anti-government separatists. The rise in dangerously unregulated space activity eventually lead to the bolstering of the Interstellar Trade Commission, granting it regulatory power over the Union's space cities, starports, and stations, however since the enforcement of these regulations rely on the Union Space Forces and the voluntary compliance of station operators space remains something of a wild west in many systems.We could even alter the ship's ID to be more appropriately pirate- and smuggler-like if it is registered. Gives us a reason to be secretive. A mask over the mask.
>>38747133There's no warp gate at that system yet, so there's no UNIQUE technology for the Scavs or OQ to steal yet. Also, the Valen are major players in the galactic scene. I'm sure they'll station ships around the colony if it looks like the Scavengers are going to move on it (which the Scavengers won't, because it's still an early-stage colony eking out an existence in a desert).
>>38747164But you find no fault with the gist of the plan?
>>38747177>which the Scavengers won't, because it's still an early-stage colony eking out an existence in a desertThat would imply that they know about it. They don't that's why they are going to attack as soon as they find it. Also the planet is full of unique tech we just never bother exploring it.
>>38747204Not really. The ship won't even have to ever actually go very far from Deep Song or whatever trade hub it makes deliveries to. It can just pretend to go somewhere, then hang around a few lightyears away and rendesvous with hive ships that can blink there instantly.
>>38747244>the planet is full of unique techIf Skyl had actually lived on it or colonized it, it would probably have been eaten too.
>>38747300Remember the Skyl ship we found that wasn't the only artifact on that planet.
>>38747316The ship that CRASHED? You're making a big assumption there are other artifacts.
>>38747245>Weird ass ship comes into town, gives off some weird vibes like some machine is constantly looking out from it>Disgorges a bunch of weirdo people with yellow eyes and cyber-augs, like 50 of them I swear, and they all walk in perfect unison>Notice their heading for the bank, follow them because I want to see shit go down>Couple of them wait in the bank line, eventually get to tellers "Hello Valen-friends we- I would like to start up a bank account!">"Name please ma'am?">"Hivelington McQueen the Second."Then we proceed to locate every merchant in the area who deals in fusion reactors and shields, and flood them with a series of 8-hour round trips where we pick up good dropped off by Hive ships.
>>38747343*TL Note: McQueen means "Son of Queen"
>>38747334>You're making a big assumption there are other artifacts.>Implying it is a big assumptionYou're the one making a big assumption here. QD said that particular planet was full of stuff to advance our technology.
>>38747401When was that said?
>>38747401>QD said that particular planet was full of stuff to advance our technologyAre you confusing the statement that it was rich in metals in the first thread, and thus suitable for quickly building the more metal-intensive industries as a starter planet?
>>38747401No he didn't.
>Nepenthe>It inhibits the formation of memory, causing the subject to forget recent events and preventing them from memorizing new events until the toxin wears off. While the subject is under the effects they are unable to recall even basic knowledge or memories, and will accept nearly anything as truth. Oh yes, space Rohypnol is airborne! We just need to put it into a pepper spray device or something that hybrids can use to spray people in the face and lead their gullible empty brains to be parasited and hybridized.
>>38747460>>38747454>>38747495One of the players basically summed up the other two planets as going zerg and advancing tech. QD said that was right.And the Skyl were industrial giants. They probably had thousands of ships in that system it would stranger if we couldn't find more tech.
>>38747550No shit, there's been extensive discussion on it in the past few threads.
>>38747606>One of the players basically summed up the other two planets as going zerg and advancing tech. QD said that was right.So you are referring to it being rich in metals. Which is exactly what they meant.
>>38747749>So you are referring to it being rich in metals.Advancing tech means obtain higher quality tech.
People in earlier threads have discussed essentially slamming our ships into population centers to form what is practically an instant hive.If we can do this, couldn't we basically produce a shit ton of cheap, but larger ships, and just slam dozens of them into a planet to rapidly expand our control? Rapid deployment, in a sense.
>>38747846Yeah, or we could just deploy shittons of workers and build hives very quickly instead of burning ships.
>>38747826Not in this context, where the defining feature of the planet was clearly established as having "the heavy metals and compounds needed for more advanced industry"
>>38747888We should go there and set up a hive though, we could use more metals.
>>38747867... on contested worlds? Worlds that likely have a military force and would have none of that?
>>38747846That idea isn't anymore practical than raining down drop pods of drones, one of which is an egglayer or turns into one.
>>38748004Oh, so you're talking about a situation that's not going to happen instead colonizing uninhabited planets. Okay.
>>38747888>"the heavy metals and compounds needed for more advanced industry and the tech to perform such industry since we don't start off with that tech.FIFYAnd at this point I think you don't more tech. I mean that system main point is that it is the Skyl home system the same race that was capable of building the ring. it has to have more tech.
>>38748033The hive bombing is more of an aggressive military strategy that both causes massive damage and gives what is essentially an instant frontline hive.Could be a great distraction to ferry in loads of troops uncontested while local forces try to deal with it. This is pretty much a total war scenario.
>>38748056>and the tech to perform such industry since we don't start off with that techUh. Yes we did. The docking pylon, pods, shuttles, subcapital FTL ships. And you can't "FTFY" when it's a fucking verbatim quote from QD in the first thread.
>>38748080Why don't we check the fucking system to see if it has more tech available? Since we have cloaking we should be able to do it discretely and we can search it as a free action.
>>38748054Full scale war is going to happen eventually, whether you want it to or not.Whether it be the humans, the Scavs or inevitably the Obsidian Queen.
>>38748176Fair enough, but I doubt that we'll encounter many scenarios where it's best for us to ram a dozen battleships into a planet in order to deploy our forces.
>>38747606You silly willy.This is what he actually said:>>31423866>That is correct. Nutrients are used to give birth to and feed your drones, metals are used to build hardened structures and more advanced equipment and modifications. One will come in handy immediately, the other will come in handy later."more tech-capable" meant having the actual resources to be capable to build the tech, not actual discovery of unknown things.
>>38748229Who said anything about battleships? Why wouldn't frigates work? Hell, maybe we could even design a low tier ship for cannon fodder in space and light hive deployment in atmosphere.
>>38748254I'll just explain why I know there is more tech in that system. What point is there in starting off on a system meant for "advanced industry" if there is no way to advance your tech? QD clearly intended that system for improving technology and there is a good chance that other artifacts survived if that chunk of a ship survived.
>>38748435The fuck he did. Now you're making baseless meta assumptions of motive.Exploring it is fine and all, but there is no good reason to assume you'll actually find something "unique" based on misinterpretations and mindreading.
>>38748474I just explain the meta and in game reasons why I'm right. How are they baseless?
>>38742897>The cost of deploying planet seeders is 10,000N 10,000M, and doubles exponentially every day for a week as the seeders spread across the planet, and then divide by half each day for another week.It costs a lot more then 100,000 of each resource.
>>38747177>Also, the Valen are major players in the galactic scene. I'm sure they'll station ships around the colony if it looks like the Scavengers are going to move on it (which the Scavengers won't, because it's still an early-stage colony eking out an existence in a desert).Nobody gets a warning about Scavs coming because they don't have eyes on their system. (Except us and our allies.)When the Scavs decide to make a move on somewhere, they're going to go in and fuck it up.And especially that small settlement. They can probably loot it completely with just their scout ship.
>>38748514Around 2.6mil, I believe.
>>38748554They don't really do planetside assaults. And what will they get from looting that settlement? Some Valen, some settling tools, and that's about it because it's a fucking settlement on an ass-end-of-nowhere desert planet.
>>38748597RESOURCE MORON! AN ASSLOAD OF RESOURCES! Remember they're like locusts.
>>38748508>What point is there in starting off on a system meant for "advanced industry" if there is no way to advance your tech?Advanced industry means building docking pylons, shuttle bays, space ships. Things more advanced than laying eggs. That is the point. To allow you to build the advanced, metal-intensive tech useful in later stages of the game. QD spelled this out *extremely explicitly*.FTL ships are pretty fucking advanced.
>>38748665From a tiny settlement that isn't even really big enough to be a town yet?No.
>>38748176Humans aren't out enemy yet and it's unwise to make them one.Scavs don't colonize planets, once we blast them out of the skies, the land is uninhabited.Making headways on OQ's land territory is going to be extremely hard due to it being covered with her hivecreep.
>>38748597Yes, but it doesn't mean they'll leave it alone if their scout lands in the area.And yes they do loot the planetside industry as well - they loot everything they can pry off.
>>38748719>and it's unwise to make them onedebatablebesides, early planning with such ideas is never a bad thing
>>38748751Okay, so they'll loot a backwater settlement. Big fucking deal.
>>38748708>Metal rich system has no resourcesI can't even. What kind of reaction should I have to this stupidity?>>38748694Advanced also includes shit like the Space elevator anon.
Hey, wait, this gives me an idea.A swarm of Hybrid Scavs false flag raid on the Valen. using the Scavs' ships, to take the gate away in pieces and maybe implant some of the priest-engineers!
>>38748776>Big fucking deal.And we lose our chance to obtain Gate tech. That is a pretty big deal.
>>38748776The deal is that there are players making plans to do with that settlement and dismissing the danger of Scavs potentially destroying it.
>>38748783Aah, so you're talking about them fully infesting a system that already has a presence in it, setting up their own infrastructure, and mining it all out.All of which runs counter to their modus operandi, which is to hijack the infrastructure of other species. Okay, I see now.
>>38748783Well yeah but that's irrelevant. The point of the planet is to have the resources to build advanced tech. You already have blueprints for advanced tech at the start of the game.It says "advanced", not "even more advanced than you already have."
>>38748850However, guess who has an early warning of where the Scavs are going? We do!And guess who has extremely fast FTL fleet ready to blink in and pop that motherfucker before it does shit? We do!So if we see them sending a ship in the direction of that planet, we should mobilize.
How about before anything else, we eliminate the Scavs.
>>38748850Yes, I'm dismissing the danger of Scavs /potentially/ destroying it. Seeing as it would appear to be a very uninteresting system to them.Although if the Scavs do attack it and we see them then I'd love to go kick their shit in. That'd be a fantastic way to put the Valen there in our debt.
>>38748842No, we don't. Gate tech is just made marginally more difficult to obtain than before.
We've never tried to capture enemy ships before.There's a challenge here, we might lose our psionic link to our drones if they go to FTL to escape.We might want to build a few large colossi drones with Advanced psionic relays in them for once, just for boarding purposes.
>>38748969Studying the OQs drones, or interrogating Theseus about his recent encounter at Zero One with her, might be illuminating on this subject.Evidently the server ship was tracked with an advanced psionic relay that went in with the boarders.
>>38748896Eliminate, assimilate, same idea.
Man, the luck was much better this week than it was last week. Last week was a shameful display.
>>38748852>All of which runs counter to their modus operandi, which is to hijack the infrastructure of other species.No it doesn't actually.>>38748874>The point of the planet is to have the resources to build advanced tech. >It says "advanced", not "even more advanced than you already have.""Advanced" is a catchall term though the Skyl were masters of advanced industry and this system was their capital and had to have most of their ships. I think it's safe to say the system isn't just for "advanced industry" as you think it is. Though we could just search the system for tech as free action you just want to argue I'm and risk losing any chance of gaining the tech if there is any.
>>38748903You don't understand.They are sending scout ships to see IF the system is any interesting.That scout ship ALONE can loot that settlement.After which the system becomes completely not interesting.
>>38749088>that 100 roll on diagnosing Elizabeth
>>38749122Okay, then they abandon it and we move in. Or they move in and we deal with it however.So what's there to panic about again?
I think no one has any problems with completely consuming and assimilating the scaves, right? Imagine what delicious secrets they hold.
>>38749206>So what's there to panic about again?...You're a fucking idiot, I already said what problem that causes: we no longer have an outback Valen settlement to offer some stuff to.
>>38749206So you want to see Union ship in our systems this soon?
>>38749264I fail to see what the big deal with that is. What's the difference between an outback Valen settlement and a regular Valen settlement, to us?>>38749277It's funny, because I haven't seen Union ships in Ralighan or Leeland space for a while. It seems they're more likely to back off in the face of conflict and consolidate than anything else.
>>38749264Physical proximity is irrelevant.
>>38749314>I haven't seen Union ships in Ralighan or Leeland space for a whileDon't know about Ralighan, but they haven't checked on Leeland because of the satellite they have in orbit feeding false information, I believe.
thred almost ded
>>38749314>It seems they're more likely to back off in the face of conflict and consolidate than anything else.Incorrect. This would be a massive interstellar they can't ignore since they're responsible for the Valen in the system. If the Valen are attacked and find our ship we'll be at war with the humans at the worst possible time.
Really, once you have hyper gate tech, you can easily spread to any location by sending shuttles full of nutrients and metals to build a new gate at any random deep space location.Since it reaches farther than the blink drive can go without running out of fuel.
>>38749473So then Scavs attack the Valen, and we either establish an underground hive or don't go there.Still not seeing a big deal here.
>>38749473*massive interstellar incident